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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on March 21, 2021, 06:31:05 PM
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Captain, my captain...still no Jack. Sanson back in which is good
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Good to see Cash back.
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Oh good, Trez and Traore again.
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My heart sinks when I see trezeguet starts
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Them
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Happy with that. Come on Villa.
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Don't like Trez starting for this. Need to make good decisions when we counter tonight and he simply won't.
AEG was good first half in the game last season, set up the own goal and was good in other attacks.
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Just realised it's a 7.30 kick-off. I'll at least be able to watch the first half. Should be good enough for 4-1 at HT.
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Just realised it's a 7.30 kick-off. I'll at least be able to watch the first half. Should be good enough for 4-1 at HT.
Davis playing the Harewood role?
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Good to see Sanson starting. Barkley has rightly been relegated to 3rd choice.
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My heart sinks when I see trezeguet starts
Mine too. Really poor player.
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Yep I'm another not keen on Trezeguet starting - doesn't really offer anything except a lot of running around. I'll be quite happy if he proves me wrong tonight mind.
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Kane aside there is nothing to fear in this Tottenham team. Let's show some quality and go at them.
If we can get the first goal then they will struggle. Zagreb will loom large.
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My heart sinks when I see trezeguet starts
Mine too. Really poor player.
Without whom we would probably have got relegated and not made a cup final last season.
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My heart sinks when I see trezeguet starts
Mine too. Really poor player.
Without whom we would probably have got relegated and not made a cup final last season.
One assist and no goals this season. Not enough surely?
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My heart sinks when I see trezeguet starts
Mine too. Really poor player.
Without whom we would probably have got relegated and not made a cup final last season.
So last year! Shall we move on? 😍
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good team, the right team in my opinion
Trez and Elghazi are always a 50-50 for me
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Trezeguet is a level below where we now want to be this season, but he's not *that* bad. And he works his bollocks off.
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Trezeguet is a level below where we now want to be this season, but he's not *that* bad. And he works his bollocks off.
We have better balance with him in. I think it's our best line up without Jack.
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Trying to be positive: isn't our record on Sunday evenings particularly good??? :)
Oh go on then: 2-1 us!
Ollie to celebrate his England call-up.
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Just realised it's a 7.30 kick-off. I'll at least be able to watch the first half. Should be good enough for 4-1 at HT.
Davis playing the Harewood role?
Watkins x 3
Mcginn
Salah getting one for them.
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Don't like Trez starting for this. Need to make good decisions when we counter tonight and he simply won't.
AEG was good first half in the game last season, set up the own goal and was good in other attacks.
Don't think AEG can have too many complaints after his horror appearance at Newcastle. But I think we really should have moved away from playing wingers without Jack. Traore and Trez have been dreadful for a long time and I'm not expecting much improvement tonight.
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Trezeguet is a level below where we now want to be this season, but he's not *that* bad. And he works his bollocks off.
Hear, hear. El Ghazi blows hot and cold and Barkley is off by a long way. We're not exactly flush with options.
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I always see Trez as a 'defensive' choice of forward, and his inclusion is normally an indication of how much chasing Dean expects us to be doing. I absolutely love his work rate, and for that alone he'll never get too much criticism from me, but in terms of creating danger to the opposition, I think he's 4th out of 4 in those positions.
Today would be a GREAT time for Ollie to show the nation what he's about. The media and the neutrals will be watching him much more closely following his call up, I hope he delivers.
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My heart sinks when I see trezeguet starts
Mine too. Really poor player.
Without whom we would probably have got relegated and not made a cup final last season.
One assist and no goals this season. Not enough surely?
Yeah, but he will probably score on the last day of the season to clinch our Champions League spot. What a game that would be to score your 1st goal of the season.
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Good to see Sanson start, unfairly left out last week, I thought. Ollie to score the winner.
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Win please.
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I wish Merson would stop banging on about us being a one man team. Take any star player out of any team and they’re not the same without them.
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Unfortunately Dier's not starting for them.
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Tyrone Mings before the game speaking very well regarding racism and the taking of the knee. He is an impressive young man.
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Unfortunately Dier's not starting for them.
That is really bad news....for us.
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Don't think AEG can have too many complaints after his horror appearance at Newcastle. But I think we really should have moved away from playing wingers without Jack. Traore and Trez have been dreadful for a long time and I'm not expecting much improvement tonight.
Agreed.
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My heart sinks when I see trezeguet starts
Mine too. Really poor player.
Without whom we would probably have got relegated and not made a cup final last season.
One assist and no goals this season. Not enough surely?
Yeah, but he will probably score on the last day of the season to clinch our Champions League spot. What a game that would be to score your 1st goal of the season.
Probably just a coincidence then that our good start to the season was with Trez in the starting 11.
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Can’t get the bastard game on, charging me PS 4 controller. Hurry up!
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Time to put the Chickens to roost tonight, after too many games where we haven't got much out of them.
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Well it is good to see that Deano is sticking to playing his only plan as no other plan exists, which everybody and his dog know how we will try and play!
Just once why can't he try something different that the opposition might actually sit up and take notice instead of the same formation every time!
Even the subs will be like for like!
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kane aside spurs bench looks scarier than their starting eleven. Just full of grafters like hojbert. We can win this they're in the doldrums.
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I’d have gone with Barkley in place of Trez tonight. Otherwise glad Cash is back fancy us all of a sudden. 2-0
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Don't like Trez starting for this. Need to make good decisions when we counter tonight and he simply won't.
AEG was good first half in the game last season, set up the own goal and was good in other attacks.
Don't think AEG can have too many complaints after his horror appearance at Newcastle. But I think we really should have moved away from playing wingers without Jack. Traore and Trez have been dreadful for a long time and I'm not expecting much improvement tonight.
Agree, try for once playing without wingers and flood the middle getting McGinn further up the pitch.
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Well it is good to see that Deano is sticking to playing his only plan as no other plan exists, which everybody and his dog know how we will try and play!
Just once why can't he try something different that the opposition might actually sit up and take notice instead of the same formation every time!
Even the subs will be like for like!
Let them worry about us.
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Was it just me that couldn't make any sense out of Mourinho's pre match interview. It just sounded like a load of mumbled gobbledygook.
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Don't like Trez starting for this. Need to make good decisions when we counter tonight and he simply won't.
AEG was good first half in the game last season, set up the own goal and was good in other attacks.
Don't think AEG can have too many complaints after his horror appearance at Newcastle. But I think we really should have moved away from playing wingers without Jack. Traore and Trez have been dreadful for a long time and I'm not expecting much improvement tonight.
Agree, try for once playing without wingers and flood the middle getting McGinn further up the pitch.
I said exactly that last weekend. We go again..
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Painful evening ahead
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I really wish we’d play McGinn further forward too. That’s surely something we need to address this summer, a real decent deep sitting solid player, as well as upgrading the wide players.
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With the one and only Mike Dean in charge there is bound to be some bad decisions ,just hope it goes our way
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With the one and only Mike Dean in charge there is bound to be some bad decisions ,just hope it goes our way
Possibly our biggest problem?
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Harry Kane hasn't scored an away Premier League goal since January. So we should probably lump on him to do so tonight.
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Sanson to channel his inner Grealish tonight. 5-1 Villa.
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Painful evening ahead
Thats the spirit !
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Chance to make up some ground on these before they get too far ahead of us.
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England international, Watkins, with another hat-trick
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Prince Phillip !
Oops , wrong thread.
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Harry Kane hasn't scored an away Premier League goal since January. So we should probably lump on him to do so tonight.
Please do.
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What was that Doug?
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Konsa is fucking brilliant.
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Painful evening ahead
Did you get AZ or Pfizer?
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How reassuring to see that we still have no clue how to retain possession from our own throw in. Plus ça change...
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Konsa is fucking brilliant.
I agree with Risso.
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Any chance of any of our players actually being able to put a foot on the ball?
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We are so ordinary without Jack.
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Not convinced by Sanson so far.
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Kind of feels like our attacks stop at the 22, as it were.
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Jack's in his pyjamas
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A poor game between two sides bereft of confidence.
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Bert is a passenger
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Our midfield is non existent.
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Bert is a passenger
I thought he was doing ok
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These are so beatable it's untrue.
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Traore can look like a footballing god one second, and a complete twat the next.
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Spurs defence is there for the taking
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Our midfield is non existent.
Funny how we all see it, I think we're pressing them pretty well so far.
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Fucking hell jack, nike.
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Is there a team worse at attacking corners than us?
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Fucking hell jack, nike.
Supreme collab innit.
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That was a chance. We don't take enough of them.
Spurs look a bit shit and 'Jose' looks a busted flush to me.
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They might be shite at the back, but we are very powderpuff up front.
Are we good enough to take advantage?
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I really wouldn’t mess with Konsa.
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We go from that free scoring game earlier today to this. We really are so blunt in the final third now. Thank goodness our defence still is solid.
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This is absolutely shite.
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This is absolutely shite.
It isn't.
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Leave im Ezri e ain’t wurf it.
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This is the worst Spurs team I've seen in years.
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This is absolutely shite.
It isn't.
It is
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Good period for us.
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Certainly not the exciting football from earlier in the season.
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In the context of their last week and the fact they played 120 minutes on Thursday we really should be pressing them a lot faster and higher.
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So much better with Cash in the side.
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Gary Neville laying into Spurs at the moment but I can’t see what he’s seeing
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Trez just giving away countless fouls all the time.
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Absolutely fucking dreadful. Dreadful.
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'Absolutely shite' isn't what we're watching here. We are watching two evenly matched upper mid-table teams play a cagey first half. 'Absolutely shite' would be 95% of games in the Remi Garde season.
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Certainly not the exciting football from earlier in the season.
It's the best we've playing in a couple of months.
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Jesus wept.
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Spurs score.
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Season ended in January, didn't it?
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FFS Martinez error.
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Typical. Spurs have absolute shite, so now they’re 1 up.
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Fucking wankers. Self destruct button again.
Pissing about. No fucking drive and determination.
Concede first, game over
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This is our best chance of beating Spurs for a long, long time but, to do that we need to be a lot sharper.
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What was that fucking defending?! Fucking shite, fuck off. Game over.
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Blimey.
Right get Trez off now.
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Oh Jesus wept. That’s terrible.
Glad we have the points already.
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Well that was wank.
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Fucking shite.
Spurs have done nothing, but our front players have been terrible. Hook Trez now
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Poor defending and they take their chance.
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Balls
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They score with their first shot
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I’m afraid Emi fucked up there
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Jack's in his pyjamas
His outfit looked very much like my Stormtrooper Onesie.
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Very typical. Play well without being clinical and get picked off. Problem at the moment is we just don’t seem to have goals in us.
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With our fixtures can see us winning one more game, two tops. We’ve been awful for weeks.
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Total nightmare.
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They score with their first shot
At least they’ve had one.
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We pick these goal keepers don't we? Awful mistake
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They score with their first shot
At least they’ve had a shot
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We really are the gift that keeps on giving.
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Traore, fucking shit corner and nor arsed for the return ball.
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dodgy keeper
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What an awful, awful goal to concede. We've been OK but in half an hour against a Spurs team clearly lacking in confidence how many shots have we had? What have we created so far?
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They score with their first shot
At least they’ve had one.
We've had 2, one on target
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Moura has been the only Spurs player that looks quality and he made us pay. Martinez to blame though.
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Aston Villa in shit set piece shocker
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Our corners are always woeful.
Zero threat.
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Can't we have Targett on corners? His free kicks been good tonight and well whoever our corner taker is can never seem to beat the first man.
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Traore can’t even taking a fucking corner. Joke of a footballer.
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Lucas is their danger man
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Sorry, spoke too soon. No chance of a win now but, with a lot more effort, we could get a draw.
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Fucks sake Bert, fucking awful. Wake the fuck up.
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What an awful, awful goal to concede. We've been OK but in half an hour against a Spurs team clearly lacking in confidence how many shots have we had? What have we created so far?
Cash was asleep too
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Traore, fucking shit corner and nor arsed for the return ball.
Agree but he would’ve been offside which was ridiculous in itself.
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They score with their first shot
At least they’ve had one.
We've had 2, one on target
When was that? I haven’t seen any?
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They score with their first shot
At least they’ve had one.
We've had 2, one on target
When was that? I haven’t seen any?
Just quoting from the BBC website
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We are toothless.
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We have gone off the boil.
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Trezeguet on the fucking floor again with no ****** near him
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Least I can watch Line Of Duty with the game put to bed.
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This is a culmination of a shit few weeks for us as a team. Nowhere near good enough - yet. Still a work in progress. Convinced we need better wingers too. Midfield is too sluggish...
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Trez is as about as threatening as a Barbie riding on a my little pony. Three quarters of the season gone and no goals. Wank.
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The ‘crap without Jack’ narrative is 100% proven.
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They score with their first shot
At least they’ve had one.
We've had 2, one on target
When was that? I haven’t seen any?
Just quoting from the BBC website
Ignore me! I was looking at the stats the wrong way round. Senior moment
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Trez is as about as threatening as a Barbie riding on a my little pony. Three quarters of the season gone and no goals. Wank.
Yeah, but he runs a lot.
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Jack would be tearing these apart. Their defence in suspect.
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Can anyone cross a football?
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If he leaves in the summer, the replacement (s) are key. Another N’Zogbia and were relegation fodder.
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The ‘crap without Jack’ narrative is 100% proven.
We need three new wingers. Traore, El Ghazi and Trez are all terrible.
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They score with their first shot
At least they’ve had one.
We've had 2, one on target
When was that? I haven’t seen any?
Just quoting from the BBC website
Ignore me! I was looking at the stats the wrong way round. Senior moment
Ha ha I thought it was me having the senior moment by nodding off at some stage!
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Too many passengers.
I’d bring Davis on and go 442
Had to be worth a punt.
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Agree on the three new wingers needed. Nowhere near adequate.
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Ollie out wide but then there's no one in the middle to receive it.
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The problem here is that we're so slow and safe with our passing, Jack makes us tick because he tries things and moves the ball forward quickly, without him we're just so ponderous, too many players are playing scared.
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Trezeguet and Traore just do not give you anywhere near enough.
But how many times does this need to be said?
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So what's the plan without Grealish..will certainly need one for every game next season. We simply are not good enough to keep him are we .
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This is woeful stuff, it’s not like there’s anyone on the bench you think could change anything.
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We haven't played badly.
I just cannot see where we are going to get a goal from.
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That goal has knocked the belief out of us
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This is utter dog shit. Fucking hook Traore.
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If Jack doesn’t get back soon we will finish in the bottom half of the table
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What the actual fuck was that?
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Throw in to Traore, miscontrols it out for a corner!
Astonishing.
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Traore just fuck off!
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This is probably worse than the Newcastle peformance. All pace, zip and purpose has gone out of our game.
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We are in one of Deanos winless streaks ,we get one every season and as many have said he only has a plan a and seems clueless to be honest
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Throw in to Traore, miscontrols it out for a corner!
Astonishing.
He really is playing shit
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Moura showing how to take corners there, proper pace and curl into six yard box.
McGinn marking Kane dosen't seem the best tactic to me.
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4-3-3 does not work without grealish in the team, we look so average without him it’s embarrassing. But yet smith still insists on it.
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This team has reached its ceiling.
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Traore, Trez and Luiz off at half time please. Providing the square root of sweet FA!!
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The two wingers are passengers. Traore is even worse, just sloppy and laid back which is exactly what we don’t need.
We’re missing a huge opportunity here.
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Even the team knows they aren’t good enough without Jack.
And they keep fucking proving it.
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Why in the name of all that is holy is John McGinn marking Harry Kane at corners?
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Trez, Traore and El Ghazi simply not good enough. No creativity from midfield or out wide without Jack.
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We look like right cloggers playing an afternoon game after a pub lunch.
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feel sorry for Ollie Watkins.
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We’re not troubling them in the slightest. This is painful, frustrating and agony to watch.
They are there for the taking. And yet we somehow are screwing it up.
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Grealish looks bored to death
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Trez is at least a yard off the pace, I don't think he was this sluggish before his injury.
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It's taken Grealish's time out injured to show up how weak we actually are.
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No pace, no invention. No drive.
No fucking ideas.
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Would get Barkley and AEG on. For all their flaws I think they'd do well with some of the space we're getting in final third.
All isn't lost yet. Will be if it goes 2-0 so I hope we make the changes before that happens.
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Yes. One more minute is quite enough.
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Just noticed Douglas Luiz is on the pitch.
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Trez is having a particularly shite game even by his high standards.
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We’re not troubling them in the slightest. This is painful, frustrating and agony to watch.
They are there for the taking. And yet we somehow are screwing it up.
Yep, hard to disagree with this. Tottenham have been poor and we haven't even had a shot.
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Boooooooooooo
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We’re so toothless, been like it since that second half against Burnley.
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Sanson is either off the pace or shit, it sure which yet.
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Utter shite.
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Any team would miss Grealish but we have been really poor the last 6 games or so.
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Hell of a summer coming up for us. We could seriously be a Sheffield United if we don't get our recruitment absolutely spot on.
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Our bad half. Tottenham won’t have an easier one all season.
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Much the better team, but can't find the final cutting edge.
We've got into dangerous positions and created some panic, but without creating chances.
Trez lacks the quality for me. Spurs here for the taking.
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Utter fucking garbage
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Not a shot worthy of the name against a very ordinary Spurs team.
But what chance have you got when you play the invisible men alongside Ollie Watkins?
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we are a one man team anyone that thinks different is just fooling themselves
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This team has reached its ceiling.
as has its manager :(
He really is limited ........thankfully we have enough points
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We really need to do better in the second half.
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Utterly dreadful yet again. Dean Smith proving yet again he cannot get us to play well without Jack Grealish. When you watch how well Brighton carved open Newcastle yesterday and how we struggled against them and pretty much all the games since Jack has been out really does make you wonder how much Smith has evolved that he cannot get us to play well without our best player. I don’t expect the same, but not such a dramatic drop off in quality.
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All the same issues that we have had in the previous games, no drive, no movement, no pace, slugish, slow, no invention. We do nothing different. Boring as fuck. Smith has no clue how to change it round either, other than waiting for Jack to return. Naff management tbh.
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Not the worst half for me, Martinez clears it into the stands as he should've and it's 0-0 with us having the better of things.
There is clearly a Grealish void mentally as much as anything. Players on the pitch simply don't believe we can even create chances without him.
Until we figure something out we'll never be a top 6 team again in this league. Too much patting on the bat at xmas thinking we have a brilliant 11. Yet again we've seen how much we lose without Jack on the pitch.
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Watching Villa over the last couple of months has felt like some kind of criminal punishment.
Turgid crap week after week.
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Before we get any new wingers we need a real strong physical presence in midfield. Our three are just getting brushed aside by Spurs.
I'd like to see Davis on for 45 now, see if we can get some support for Ollie.
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There is no link between midfield an attack, so we become very predictable and frequently end up playing high through balls. We just lack threat and we’ll most likely lose this game.
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I’d hook Sanson and Trez.
And Luiz.
Maybe Bert and McGinn too.
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Just noticed Douglas Luiz is on the pitch.
What does Douglas Luiz actually do?
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Boxing day was tye last time we played well for 90 minutes. That was boxing day. Marvellous!!!
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Trez is having a particularly shite game even by his high standards.
He would be having an anonymous game, if he didn’t give away fouls that make him look out of his depth. One of which stopped our press and started the build up to their goal.
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Getting worse by the week coming forward, sadly. The final ball tonight has been amateur and there is no cohesion at all. It is disappointing given all the verve and invention we saw early on in the season. It isn't just about a lack of Jack but it obviously doesn't help.
Looks like the season will peter out. Reminds me a bit of O'Neill's first season and going back further, Big Ron's. We had similar runs then at this time of year with goals drying up.
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Trez is at least a yard off the pace, I don't think he was this sluggish before his injury.
I think he was to be honest, even last season. A desperately average player. Traore on the other hand has been a disgrace, I'm sick of the sight of him I must say. Hook them both I think. I'd try Barkley up next to Watkins and something a bit different like Engels coming on and switching to wing backs.
Spurs have been appalling in the first half yet we contrived to give them a goal.
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No shots on goal, in 46 minutes of football, is just not on.
Whoever the opponent. And this Spurs are very average.
Changes at half time please Dean
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Hell of a summer coming up for us. We could seriously be a Sheffield United if we don't get our recruitment absolutely spot on.
Hysterical.
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Think the commentators are given us a lot more credit than we deserve. We look great passing it around in our third of the pitch but get over the half way line it becomes pretty clueless.
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Much the better team, but can't find the final cutting edge.
We've got into dangerous positions and created some panic, but without creating chances.
Trez lacks the quality for me. Spurs here for the taking.
I don't think we've been too poor overall, but can we really call ourselves "much the better team" when we haven't had a single shot?
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This is a true test of what Dean's got in his locker now.
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We have absolutely no creativity through the middle. It’s hopeless.
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I said to the missus we can have the ball all we like but if you don’t create anything it will bite us in the arse because you just knew Tottenham would take their chances if they got them. I can’t see us scoring tonight whereas they still look dangerous every time they come forward.
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Sanson struggling.
Luiz sloppy (again)
Final third crap
Very poor for their goal
Spurs are there for the taking if we can get our act together.
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I’d be tempted to get Ramsey on and push McGinn right forward. AEG on for Trez
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McGinn's done okay. Several others haven't.
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You can’t keep playing 4-3-3 when your wingers are as piss poor as Trez and Traore.
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As per usual, it’s utter drivel. Lazy crossing and no creativity from midfield at all.
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It was OKish until they scored then we've been downbeat since then. We lack quality in the wide attacking positions with a dreadful Spurs back 4 and despite looking threatening we have no punch.
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Much the better team, but can't find the final cutting edge.
We've got into dangerous positions and created some panic, but without creating chances.
Trez lacks the quality for me. Spurs here for the taking.
You are being v kind
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We won't score
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We lost to Sheffield United and scraped a lucky point against Newcastle. Why are we so surprised at how poor we've looked
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So will Dean change this shite at HT?
He should.
No doubt.
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4-3-3 is crap and we're crap at playing it with the squad we've assembled. The ball was dropped in the transfer window and we've been marking time since.
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Sanson. Is he any good? Because he's been shite so far.
See also Luiz, Douglas
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You can’t keep playing 4-3-3 when your wingers are as piss poor as Trez and Traore.
Agree. But that commands a level of flexibility and nous from the coach.
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You can’t keep playing 4-4-3 when your wingers are as piss poor as Trez and Traore.
Exactly this. Change to a diamond.
For all his running, Trez offers nothing. Traore is also offering nothing except being sloppy and half arsed in possession. Ollie is literally feeding off scraps and you could tell he was getting frustrated. As was Tyrone.
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Doubt Dean will change it but we are not going to get back into this unless we start getting some shots in which will require a rethink
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Toothless.... which is so frustrating, as Spurs are shockingly bad! For those clamouring for Jack, cast your mind back to the last few performances WITH him. The rot set in before he got injured so he’s not the knight in shining armour people make him out to be.
This game is done now... At most, Smith will make like for like changes, but with slightly shitter players coming on in their places. The Portuguese Dyche strikes again!
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Traoré has been shite, but at least he has the ability to do something good occasionally.
Trez should be playing for Rotherham or someone.
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Toothless, no creativity, we don't have a player that can go past his marker. Not sure what DS will do because i can't see any answers on the bench.
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He has to hook either Trez or Bert, surely?
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Playing like a team happy to stay up, been so poor for sometime now.
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Think Spurs have been awful all over the pitch myself, we've just been very lacking in the final third. Wouldn't mind seeing a diamond as our best width comes from Targett and Cash, but I don't think we'll see a change of shape mid game.
Sanson out of position, Trez out of his depth. AEG and Barkely for me. Still well within the game and find the reactions on here baffling.
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You can’t keep playing 4-3-3 when your wingers are as piss poor as Trez and Traore.
substitute them both now
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You can’t keep playing 4-4-3 when your wingers are as piss poor as Trez and Traore.
Exactly this. Change to a diamond.
For all his running, Trez offers nothing. Traore is also offering nothing except being sloppy and half arsed in possession. Ollie is literally feeding off scraps and you could tell he was getting frustrated. As was Tyrone.
Trez should get no credit for running a bit. That's the least anyone should demand.
His lack of quality is spirit draining. But he's not alone in that.
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we are a one man team anyone that thinks different is just fooling themselves
Rubbish! How can you expect us to compete with only 9 players? I'd take off Trez and Traore and replace them with Ramsey. A 10 man Villa team should have enough to beat this lot.
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Watching that goal back, Cash was dreadful for it. Terrible clearance from Martinez too obviously but Cash doesn't track Moura from the first play.
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Roll on mid May, clueless dirge
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Spurs aren't very good. Any half decent team would get back into this.
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All the same issues that we have had in the previous games, no drive, no movement, no pace, slugish, slow, no invention. We do nothing different. Boring as fuck. Smith has no clue how to change it round either, other than waiting for Jack to return. Naff management tbh. SO what would you do to change it then, mastermind ?
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Getting worse by the week coming forward, sadly. The final ball tonight has been amateur and there is no cohesion at all. It is disappointing given all the verve and invention we saw early on in the season. It isn't just about a lack of Jack but it obviously doesn't help.
Looks like the season will peter out. Reminds me a bit of O'Neill's first season and going back further, Big Ron's. We had similar runs then at this time of year with goals drying up.
I think it's been effective in we're winning plenty of free kicks around the box due to how clueless Sanchez is at defending. Arsenal used it as a tactic last week aswell.
Can't get over how bad our set pieces are. Should have Targett on the corners and just leave one of the midfielders back as he's hit in some nice free kicks.
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It just astounds me that trezeguet is playing football for a premier league football team.
To me, he’s that bloke at work who normally plays rugby, but agrees to make the numbers up for a 5 aside team.
Head down, charge and roll around on the floor.
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He has to hook either Trez or Bert, surely?
AEG for one of them is the most likely change. But we urgently require a change of shape.
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Hell of a summer coming up for us. We could seriously be a Sheffield United if we don't get our recruitment absolutely spot on.
Hysterical.
In what way is that hysterical. Crap since NY’s day
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Think Spurs have been awful all over the pitch myself, we've just been very lacking in the final third. Wouldn't mind seeing a diamond as our best width comes from Targett and Cash, but I don't think we'll see a change of shape mid game.
Sanson out of position, Trez out of his depth. AEG and Barkely for me. Still well within the game and find the reactions on here baffling.
Agree with all that. We need a final ball
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I hope that was not our good half
zero shots
Trarore, can we get our money back ?
Why do we keep on playing back to Martinez, at one point we went from being well in their half to , side wards, backwards and Martinez then hoofing out for a throw to them.
Midfield, nobody can hold the ball and push forward. Sanson seems anther tippy,tippy player.
I try not to post on the match thread as you can get carried away, but we have seen some real crap served up in the last few weeks.
Not sure who could come on to change it
But please hoike Trarore for the 2nd half
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Davis and AEG for Traore and Trez.
That way we can hold it up and have someone who likes to fucking shoot.
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The only positive so far is that it was a 7:30 kick off, rather than 8:00. Means I can get to bed a bit earlier.
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Not good enough and the annoying thing is Spurs' back are rubbish.
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I think we have regressed back to be as neffective as we were before project restart.
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Watching that goal back, Cash was dreadful for it. Terrible clearance from Martinez too obviously but Cash doesn't track Moura from the first play.
Plus he was waiting for the ball while Moura ran to it.
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You can’t keep playing 4-3-3 when your wingers are as piss poor as Trez and Traore.
substitute them both now
Or don’t employ the same wingers who have disappointed for weeks. Try something different. Davis to start with Ollie for example
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Poor poor first half---not one shot!! and Spurs are so sluggish,---need to really change gears quick in the 2nd half---- and dead ball kicks are really dam awful,
surely we can do better than this--- surely??
Come On Villa Come On ,
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Hate to say it but I think Barkley needs to come on
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OK, here’s my stab at Dean Smith Subs bingo....
Around 65 mins - AEG for Trez, Barkley for Sanson. Same shape, same quality of player, same outcome
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The reason we are losing and will lose is because we have one (one) forward worthy of the name . Trezeguet works hard but is simply shit, Traore has some talent but is an irresponsible wanker. On the bench is AEG (enough said) and Davis!!! We were heading for a 0-0 until Martinez decided he’d piss about instead of clearing the ball.
A lot of recruitment work, especially up front, needed in the summer.
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I hope that was not our good half
zero shots
Trarore, can we get our money back ?
Why do we keep on playing back to Martinez, at one point we went from being well in their half to , side wards, backwards and Martinez then hoofing out for a throw to them.
Midfield, nobody can hold the ball and push forward. Sanson seems anther tippy,tippy player.
I try not to post on the match thread as you can get carried away, but we have seen some real crap served up in the last few weeks.
Not sure who could come on to change it
But please hoike Trarore for the 2nd half
And yet Traore is one of the few who could just produce something out of nothing for a goal, can't see Trez doing that
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Hate to say it but I think Barkley needs to come on
Let's not say things we'll regret in the morning.
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OK, here’s my stab at Dean Smith Subs bingo....
Around 65 mins - AEG for Trez, Barkley for Sanson. Same shape, same quality of player, same outcome
Score will probably be 0-3 at that point.
Early change would be good for once.
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Traoré has been shite, but at least he has the ability to do something good occasionally.
Trez should be playing for Rotherham or someone.
Yes, but how occasionally does Traore do something good. He's a show pony who makes consistent bad decisions whether it be his crossing or holding onto the ball too long.
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Why no subs.....
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Dean's record without Jack is getting worse.
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No changes. No surprise.
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Are we allowed to furlough players?
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Come on you lions
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Davis and AEG for Traore and Trez.
That way we can hold it up and have someone who likes to fucking shoot.
The same Davis that has scored 4 professional goals in half a decade and calls himself a striker ?
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Are we allowed to furlough players?
They are furloughed whilst still on the pitch.
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Fuck that was close
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Watching that goal back, Cash was dreadful for it. Terrible clearance from Martinez too obviously but Cash doesn't track Moura from the first play.
Plus he was waiting for the ball while Moura ran to it.
I thought at the time we'd be lambasting Elmo for that, me especially.
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Dreading next season already
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Come on you lions
More like ..."show some passion you pussies"
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Was I imagining things there or was McGinn marking Kane for a corner?
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Dreading next season already
That’s the spirit.
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Was I imagining things there or was McGinn marking Kane for a corner?
No he’s been doing it all game bizarrely
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Was I imagining things there or was McGinn marking Kane for a corner?
Wikipedia tells me they are same height.
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Line of Duty looking odds on better option at the moment.
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regulons crocked and traore just lays it off to the centre half doesn't even think of having a run at his injured opponent. So frustrating
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Dead bodies all over the pitch.
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In respect of No changes at half time ....is Smith stubborn or just fucking thick ?
The lack of recruitment of strikers is costing us
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/*my dad mode*/ How much do these take home every week? Why can't they cross a football correctly? */ My dad mode /*
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Floaty, floaty, shit, shit.
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Our crossing is so bad.
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I'm sure Sanson will be great next season and everything, when he settles in. But he's been bloody awful so far.
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I pray just once for a decent corner of free kick. Just one please.
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Apparently 0 shots and 0 on target. Not sure if that’s true. If it is, it’s a humiliation.
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Not sure what Sanson brings to the team.
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Apparently 0 shots and 0 on target. Not sure if that’s true. If it is, it’s a humiliation.
It’s true. We laughed at the women for doing that.
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Apparently 0 shots and 0 on target. Not sure if that’s true. If it is, it’s a humiliation.
I’m afraid it’s true
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Midfield.Oh dear.
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Davies coming on.
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I'd bring Barkley on. For all that he has been poor recently he has to be able to create more than we are doing currently.
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Not sure what Sanson brings to the team.
We’re you not amazed by the free kick combo with Dougie?
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This formation 4-3-3 hasn't been working for ages so I am not certain what people expect!
As the saying goes 'if you keep on doing the same things, don't expect different results'!
Deano just can't see anything wrong in keep on doing the same things over and over again, even down to the time of making subs!
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Sanson is clearly struggling with the pace. Going to take time for him to adjust I think
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I'd bring Barkley on. For all that he has been poor recently he has to be able to create more than we are doing currently.
And he'll have a shot. At this rate, I'm worried we'll go 90 minutes without one!
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I'd bring Barkley on. For all that he has been poor recently he has to be able to create more than we are doing currently.
He's done fuck all. Waste of space.
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Sanson about to be booked again shortly. I may be watching a different game but, Spurs still look like they may score again when they attack us but, I can’t see anything in our play that suggests us scoring any time soon.
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I’m thinking that Line of Duty is starting to call my name now...
That’s how bad it’s getting now. This is just shocking, dreadful. Even Jose is laughing.
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Yay. AEG. What tactics!
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Was I imagining things there or was McGinn marking Kane for a corner?
Wikipedia tells me they are same height.
That's odd, Wikipedia tells the rest of the world that Harry Kane is 1.88m and John McGinn is 1.78m.
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Davis preparing for his 3 minute cameo?
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Sanson has been garbage
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Get the fuck in! We had a shot.
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There's a lot more to be done in the summer than I thought.
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Yay. AEG. What tactics!
We dont do tactics.
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A shot!
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Floaty, floaty, shit, shit.
Westy corner
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2 shots!
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2 shots in a few seconds!
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Get the fuck in! We had a shot.
Shhhhhoootttiioo.
Thank god. Never been so happy to see a shot.
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A shot!
Two shots!
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Traoré for AEG. That'll shit 'em up.
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AEG for Traore. Absolute horror show from him.
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We lost not only Jack but also Doug.
He was awesome up until about 12 games ago and then someone hacked him.
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Will we win another game this season?
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AEG for Traore. Absolute horror show from him.
Harsh he’s only just come on
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There’s a worldy from someone or we ain’t scoring here.
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Talking of My little Pony..
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I'm having a shot for every shot. I'll still be able to drive after the game.
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Trez and El Ghazi is as 'Championship' a pair of wingers as you're ever going to see.
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This reminds me of when we celebrated getting corner kicks.
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I'd bring Barkley on. For all that he has been poor recently he has to be able to create more than we are doing currently.
And he'll have a shot. At this rate, I'm worried we'll go 90 minutes without one!
At this rate I'm worried we'll go 90 minutes without scoring
(worth a try)
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Wrong sub Dean.
Should have been Trez.
Bert at least has some skills.
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Will we win another game this season?
Will we score again?
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Jack pulls teams apart and gives space to everyone else making those players better. Without him we completely tighten up and get easily boxed into opponents defensive zones that we don’t know how to get out of. That or players are too easily marked out of games. The drop off between when Jack plays and when he doesn’t is just astonishing.
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AEG will be asking to come off after that tackle.
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This is better
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Posted at 20:4320:43
Post update
Aston Villa 0-1 Tottenham
Mark Lawrenson
BBC football expert on BBC Radio 5 Live (Lawrenson)
Aston Villa haven't changed things tactically at all which is slightly puzzling. Unless they decided let's stay as we are for 20 minutes, keep it at 1-0 and then for the last 25 minutes or so have a good go at it.
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AEG takes 20 seconds to contribute more than Trez and Traore have in an hour.
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Runners from midfield please.
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Why the fuck has Barkley had to run down the tunnel? Why isn't he ready to come on when needed?
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I like AEG. Don’t feel like he’s as bad as is being made out?
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Where’s Barkley gone? For a pee?
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Where’s Barkley gone? For a pee?
Left the gas on.
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Davis for Trez and Ross for Sansom.
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Jack pulls teams apart and gives space to everyone else making those players better. Without him we completely tighten up and get easily boxed into opponents defensive zones that we don’t know how to get out of. That or players are too easily marked out of games. The drop off between when Jack plays and when he doesn’t is just astonishing.
We desperately need to find a player on his wavelength and has the personality to become heartbeat of his team when he isn't out there on the pitch.
Sort of thing that will seperate this ownership from the Lerner era imo, giving DS the funds and the order to sign one in the summer as it's no good just giving up seasons when he's out injured.
We'll never become a top team again with that mentality.
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If it's any consolation, imagine how the neutrals must be feeling, having nothing else to do but watch this garbage.
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even on the bench barkley infuriates. Warming up but not ready to come on has to disappear down the tunnel!!!
did he forget his spanner again?
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Nice of Ross to come back!
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Posted at 20:4320:43
Post update
Aston Villa 0-1 Tottenham
Mark Lawrenson
BBC football expert on BBC Radio 5 Live (Lawrenson)
Aston Villa haven't changed things tactically at all which is slightly puzzling. Unless they decided let's stay as we are for 20 minutes, keep it at 1-0 and then for the last 25 minutes or so have a good go at it.
Lawrenson and football expert. Words you wouldn't expect to see in the same sentence.
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Davis for Trez and Ross for Sansom.
Might as well ask the ref to blow for full time as bring Davis on. Mind you, we might as well have done that when they scored.
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No change to the system still, just like for like replacements
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Wish Cash would get bombing down the flank.
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Runners from midfield please.
We seemed to have Sanson as highest pressing midfielder but you'd think McGinn would be doing that if we're playing three in there.
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Line of Duty.
Keinan Davis.
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That's the game.
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How can that be a penalty when Kane miscontrolled it out of play?
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Fuck off!
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Fuck me that's soft.
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Sanson was awful, rightly subbed.; The French league hasn't exactly been a hotbed of legends for us.
Oh FFS, penalty.
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Giving a pen for a ball going out of play.
Only villa
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Cash you utter tit.
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Braindead. Kane did buy it though.
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Nice one Matty.
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What is Cash doing????
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Kane nowhere near the ball. How is that a pen?
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Kane fucking cheated there
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What a stupid challenge.
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Oh fuck it right off
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Fuck me that's soft.
The penalty or our final third play?
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Wake me up in May.
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Realised he'd fucked up and stepped into Cash's path, soft as fuck.
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Fuck off. Utter, utter shite.
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We have gifted them both goals.
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Lane the cheating Twat.
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And that’s that.
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Stupid challenge
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Its a rash challenge by Cash, but surely if the ball is basically already out of play, how can it be a penalty?
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That’s never a pen.
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That is fucking stupid. Sod this season off.
Ridiculous. Humiliating. Painful to watch. Every single game
Bollocks to watching the rest of this
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I suppose had a penalty against them last week in similar circumstances. Absolutely shocking tonight. We all need to take stock before saying too much but it's clear that there are real issues and few ideas how to resolve them.
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Lane the cheating Twat.
Bit harsh blaming the old ground.
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We're just so utterly soft. Need a game to get things back on track, or a striker not scored for a while?
We're your boys. Every time.
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It’s a pen, soft or not. We just have no cutting edge at the moment, we’ve been pretty poor for a few weeks.
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It was a penalty for sure. Brain dead decision making again.
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Kane fucking cheated there
Cash was an imbecile diving in like that. Useless for both goals. Losing 0-2 to this Spurs team, fucking hell this is bad
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Jack keeps Smith in his job.
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That is fucking stupid. Sod this season off.
Ridiculous. Humiliating. Painful to watch. Every single game
Bollocks to watching the rest of this
Yep, the 7-2 against Liverpool was fucking embarrassing.
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Does it not matter that the tackle happened off the pitch?
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Spurs have been shite. And we are 2-0 down to them.
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That’s a crap penalty decision
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How the fuck can it be a penalty when the ball has gone out of play?
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For all us being powerpuff worth noting Spurs have only had two shots on target all night.
We've just gifted them two goals which seems a running theme in this fixture in last decade.
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Bet Fulham are a bit pissed off having to wait for their next 3 points.
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We gifted them two wins last season too. They must love playing us.
This one ranks up (down) there with the Leeds at home performance. In fact, it's been worse from an attacking PoV. Just awful.
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That is fucking stupid. Sod this season off.
Ridiculous. Humiliating. Painful to watch. Every single game
Bollocks to watching the rest of this
Yep, the 7-2 against Liverpool was fucking embarrassing.
That feels like a lifetime ago.
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Spurs have been shite. And we are 2-0 down to them.
Yes this is seriously wrong.
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We’re becoming awful to watch.
Since that first half at Burnley, we’ve been pitiful. The lack of basic skills is frightening.
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Did he not get a yellow for that?
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That is fucking stupid. Sod this season off.
Ridiculous. Humiliating. Painful to watch. Every single game
Bollocks to watching the rest of this
Most ridiculous post I think I’ve seen in years.
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That’s a crap penalty decision
It's a foul unfortunately. It's shit, but it is. It's what Jack is brilliant at, putting his body where the challenge will come, even if it's not where the ball will be. Kane definitely played for it (the ball was going out so he had no other option), but contact in the box like that is going to be a penalty.
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Jack keeps Smith in his job.
Kane keeps Jose in his job.
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Trez shot there sums it up for me.
Big summer ahead.
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Jack is in the stands wondering what the fuck he is doing still a Villa player. A good euros and he’s a fool not to maximize his career at the very top level. Just how bad we look without him tells the bigger story of how great he actually is.
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Lets be honest, without Jack we are clearly a relegation battle team. We all knew how important he was, but it is surprising just how much our forward play has fallen off a cliff without him.
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Trez is awful.
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Trez shot there sums it up for me.
Big summer ahead.
Euros, festivals back.
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We’re can’t even give away penalties properly.
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As piss poor as Feb/March last year, next ten games need to be scrutinised very closely by those up top as this can’t be allowed to continue into next season.
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Lets be honest, without Jack we are clearly a relegation battle team. We all knew how important he was, but it is surprising just how much our forward play has fallen off a cliff without him.
I agree
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Last season, covid saved our season. This season, it’s royally fucked us!
Lost all of our attacking prowess, Grealish out of form then injured, Doug Luiz reverting to last season’s Doug Luiz, and as much as I applaud Ollie’s workrate... to be blunt, that’s ALL he’s offered recently.
Smith not changing anything - Same disfunctional tactics and subs game after game.
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Soft penalty - but Kane knew what he was doing. He looked for contact and got it. Shame the ref didn't spot it - oh wait - its Mike Dean
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That is fucking stupid. Sod this season off.
Ridiculous. Humiliating. Painful to watch. Every single game
Bollocks to watching the rest of this
Most ridiculous post I think I’ve seen in years.
Yep.
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Jack is in the stands wondering what the fuck he is doing still a Villa player. A good euros and he’s a fool not to maximize his career at the very top level. Just how bad we look without him tells the bigger story of how great he actually is.
Absolutely. His transfer value has actually risen being out injured.
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Trez still on the pitch = Smith out for me.
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Not sure why Cash got booked for that when Hojbjerg got away with the same thing in a more dangerous position 2 minutes earlier.
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I think trez is the worst footballer i have ever seen.
Cant head
Cant shoot
Cant cross
Fails to beat his man
Always makes wrong choices
No idea in front of goal
Just wtf does he do? If its for his energy then a greyhound would be more effective
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Smith without Grealish looks like a championship manager.
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Jack keeps Smith in his job.
Kane keeps Jose in his job.
I think he probably has. I actually agree with one of your posts even though it's sarcastic. Well done.
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That is fucking stupid. Sod this season off.
Ridiculous. Humiliating. Painful to watch. Every single game
Bollocks to watching the rest of this
Most ridiculous post I think I’ve seen in years.
Sorry about that. I have had an utterly shit day due to reasons I won’t go into on here.
It might seem like an overreaction but think about others positions before attacking them.
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Cash gets in ahead of Guilbert. Struggling with that one.
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That is fucking stupid. Sod this season off.
Ridiculous. Humiliating. Painful to watch. Every single game
Bollocks to watching the rest of this
Most ridiculous post I think I’ve seen in years.
Must have missed the 7-2 amongst other great games and results.
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There was me wanting Barkley on (and to start) and everything he does is just so half-hearted.
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Very worrying, Burnley, Palace and Brighton to name but 3 of the weaker Prem teams would all have given Spurs more of a game tonight. Something not right.
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Still in development.
We haven't got the movement we need going forward and we take a split second longer than we should all over the pitch.
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Season over ........Will struggle to stay mid table at this rate
So very disappointing ......some big decisions to be made at the end of the season including the manager .......
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Barkley has been terrible since he came on
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Fuck me, just end this now ref.
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Spurs have been very poor.
And yet will win this game without us putting a glove on them.
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Cash gets in ahead of Guilbert. Struggling with that one.
Thats harsh. Cash has been poor tonight, but has had an excellent season before his injury.
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Smith without Grealish looks like a championship manager.
Smith without Grealish IS a championship manager.
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Soft penalty - but Kane knew what he was doing. He looked for contact and got it. Shame the ref didn't spot it - oh wait - its Mike Dean
Kane was going absolutely nowhere and Cash dived in. A cretinous challenge.
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Tottenham look like the team that have had 9 days rest, and we look like the team had an extra time game on Thursday
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Look, it was an emotional reaction to a soft penalty in a game that we have been humiliated in.
Yes, this season is progress and I have always said that this is a work in progress. We’re not there yet, we’re not even close based on the evidence of the last few games.
I believe that Covid has really knocked the energy out of the team, we lost Grealish at the wrong time.
We have had some great perks this season, but this last month is one to forget.
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What I will never understand about players like Barkley is how could you be so uninterested? I can forgive someone being shit but I can’t forgive someone just not bothering.
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Barkley has been terrible since he came on
Has he come on? I didn't notice
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Looks like the towel has gone in now.
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It’s not that we’re playing badly as such, we just don’t have the quality in the areas that matter. Simple as that
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It’s more grealish than smith who got us promoted and kept us up
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Why bother making a substitution now? Far too late.
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Surprised Spurs haven’t bought Ledley King on.
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Spurs played on Thursday night, but we're the ones struggling with condition it seems. That's also not a good sign.
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Been dog shit since Christmas and clearly not enough winners in the squad. Too many happy going through the paces and Spurs taking the piss now literally walking pace. We will lose players by not addressing this slide as football moves fast these days and if we appear to accept mediocrity those with ambitions will move on. I know we have made good strides this season but all that good work can so easily slip away...
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Smith without Grealish looks like a championship manager.
Smith without Grealish IS a championship manager.
Where’s the big input from Terry and Shakespeare then? Plenty lauding them when we were doing well, but they just vanish when our form drops through the floor.
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Very worrying, Burnley, Palace and Brighton to name but 3 of the weaker Prem teams would all have given Spurs more of a game tonight. Something not right.
Burnley and Palace lost 4-0 and 4-1 to them in last three weeks!
Agree on Brighton.
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Luiz looks uninterested
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Dross Barkley
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Højbjerg is some player. He's nicked the ball god knows how many times tonight, and been everywhere for them. We definitely need someone like that in the summer, someone who'll grab it by the scruff of the neck and not give the opposition any time.
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Luiz looks uninterested
A gutless disgrace today, jumping out of tackles all game....
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Season over ........Will struggle to stay mid table at this rate
So very disappointing ......some big decisions to be made at the end of the season including the manager .......
Yes because getting us to where we are has been shit.
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Makes you wonder what the manager is doing to compensate for the loss of his star player?
What tactical changes or game plans he has.
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Is there any chance we'll ever have a run of bad form under Smith and someone won't claim that we only got promoted because of Jack?
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Been dog shit since Christmas and clearly not enough winners in the squad. Too many happy going through the paces and Spurs taking the piss now literally walking pace. We will lose players by not addressing this slide as football moves fast these days and if we appear to accept mediocrity those with ambitions will move on. I know we have made good strides this season but all that good work can so easily slip away...
Have to say its all becoming very "Pulis-like". His teams seemed to have the "get to 40 points and then clock off" attitude.
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Kane is such a cheating shit.
Grabbing his hamstring, looking at the ref and then just gets up.
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Spurs played on Thursday night, but we're the ones struggling with condition it seems. That's also not a good sign.
It's genuinely embarrassing, it was the same against Leicester recently
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Worst period of the season for us.
Really feeling deflated week after week watching us play. Didn't think we'd be so flat without Jack but it just shows how hard we must make it for anyone to buy him.
Need more quality going forward. That has to be the priority this summer. Traore/Trezeguet/El Ghazi are squad players and not good enough to start games. I hope we don't sign Barkley. And McGinn has been poor for a while now.
International break is needed.
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I'm afraid this is just not good enough, and there may be many culprits but, ultimately, one man will take the blame.
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This is horrible
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Oh just fuck off Barkley
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Brilliant ball from Davis and shit from Barkley.
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AEG takes 20 seconds to contribute more than Trez and Traore have in an hour.
Maybe Jon but he's as usual done absolutely nothing other than give the ball away since. The 3 of them need binning in the summer.
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Kelly McDonald has aged like a fine wine.
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Is there any chance we'll ever have a run of bad form under Smith and someone won't claim that we only got promoted because of Jack?
It’s the truth though isn’t it? Or are you’re saying we would have got promoted without Jack?
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I think we don’t have a strong enough 3 in midfield to play 3 up front.
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The serious lack of quality is only now being seen. There's a lot more work to do in the summer than we thought.
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Fuck this - Line of Duty is on
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Spurs have got their confidence back. Confidence delivered to them by AVFC on a silver platter.
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Davis done well since he came on.
Worth a start next game if Jack isn't back.
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Luiz looks uninterested
A gutless disgrace today, jumping out of tackles all game....
Something hasn’t been right with him for a long time. Maybe he knows he is going to Citeh.
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Spurs aren't shite but Watkins is running his socks off as the only forward, with no support. Consequently there is no goal threat. At least Davis takes some of the pressure off.
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Moura been great for them.
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Luiz looks uninterested
A gutless disgrace today, jumping out of tackles all game....
Something hasn’t been right with him for a long time. Maybe he knows he is going to Citeh.
Is that Manchester or Coventry City?
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Apparently Ross Barkley’s loan fee is £11m.
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Is there any chance we'll ever have a run of bad form under Smith and someone won't claim that we only got promoted because of Jack?
It’s the truth though isn’t it? Or are you’re saying we would have got promoted without Jack?
It's 2 seasons ago, let it go, we got promoted and we've improved massively in 2 years but for too many people it's the same old stick to beat the manager with every time they're upset with him, it's boring and has been done, if you want to find something to criticise him for there are plenty of other things that are more valid than what happened 2 seasons ago.
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It has been too easy for Spurs. They haven't even needed to go up to fifth gear. We have looked passive and bereft of ideas.
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Ok time to regroup after the break. Need our mojo back. And our captain.
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Season over ........Will struggle to stay mid table at this rate
So very disappointing ......some big decisions to be made at the end of the season including the manager .......
Yes because getting us to where we are has been shit.
You may be satisfied with mediocrity ....I ain't
It's not where we are but where we are heading .....no disputing we had a brilliant start but we have reverted to the same dross as last season ...Smith seems both stubborn and limited ...
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Agree with Neville there.
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Moura been great for them.
Proper Brazilian.
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Pep needs the last piece of his jigsaw, Douglas Luiz. I’m sure he’s in the process of putting in a bid as we speak.
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Is Davis playing in midfield?
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Spurs haven't had to do a lot to win this.
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You tell him Targett!
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Luiz has been a disgrace tonight.
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Another performance that shows everyone where we’ll need to strengthen in the Summer. Top 6 team prior to Christmas, bottom 6 since.
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If this carries on I would be worried about next season.
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If this carries on I would be worried about next season.
Agreed
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Is there any chance we'll ever have a run of bad form under Smith and someone won't claim that we only got promoted because of Jack?
It’s the truth though isn’t it? Or are you’re saying we would have got promoted without Jack?
It's 2 seasons ago, let it go, we got promoted and we've improved massively in 2 years but for too many people it's the same old stick to beat the manager with every time they're upset with him, it's boring and has been done, if you want to find something to criticise him for there are plenty of other things that are more valid than what happened 2 seasons ago.
The only way Smith is going stop fans barking back to it is to make us eat humble pie. The stats don’t lie - he doesn’t have a clue how to make us look like a competitive football team without him.
I’d love nothing more than to be proved wrong, but two seasons later, he STILL hasn’t figured it out.
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This season has fizzled out like a day old can of pop. Dean seems clueless and unable to turn things round. The sight of his gormless expression is starting to get on my tits.
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Another performance that shows everyone where we’ll need to strengthen in the Summer. Top 6 team prior to Christmas, bottom 6 since.
It's a long old season and one without any serious cup run for one reason or another.
Feels like yet another year where we peaked mid season, thought all our first 11 were brilliant and then let January pass by without doing much and the reality in last 6 weeks has been pretty sobering.
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Ross loses an 80-/20 challenge. In his favour.
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Grim and flat performance and I agree we are now looking way off a side that will progress. need some real quality to go with Jack and to provide alternatives when he is out. That looked like an old Villa team not a new vibrant one. No support for Watkins among other things. Too easy to roll over.
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I agree!
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Agree with Damo70 but rubbish at quoting posts. Too easy for Spurs as it has been too easy for so many other teams since Christmas and we are nearly in April.
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Spurs haven't had to do a lot to win this.
They've been taking the piss these last 20 minutes.
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If this carries on I would be worried about next season.
Agreed
We stink and are out of ideas.
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Bundy reference removed.
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This season has fizzled out like a day old can of pop. Dean seems clueless and unable to turn things round. The sight of his gormless expression is starting to get on my tits.
This .....i fear he is out of his depth
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Bundy reference removed.
Good. What an absolutely moronic thing to say.
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If this carries on I would be worried about next season.
No, it's a bad run yes but come on.
Our manager has proven critics wrong more than once and he will do so again, we will go on another run before the season ends.
The season as a whole is a massive improvement, a bad patch doesn't mean we have to worry next season. We will be OK, but it's tough at the moment.
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This season has fizzled out like a day old can of pop. Dean seems clueless and unable to turn things round. The sight of his gormless expression is starting to get on my tits.
This .....i fear he is out of his depth
I shouldn't worry. We've been hearing that for the past two and a half years.
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This looked like a bottom three team. It's all very well to say that the team has done well this season but it is all falling apart now.
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Luiz has been a disgrace tonight.
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Luiz has been a disgrace tonight.
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my spurs mate said the difference was the quality in the final third...
UTV
THe Doc
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my spurs mate said the difference was the quality in the final third...
UTV
THe Doc
I agree
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Luiz has been a disgrace tonight.
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He seemed to shirk a couple of tackles. Maybe he’s off
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This season has fizzled out like a day old can of pop. Dean seems clueless and unable to turn things round. The sight of his gormless expression is starting to get on my tits.
This .....i fear he is out of his depth
When did that happen then? We've improved each season he's been in charge.
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Another frustrating but very predictable watch & outcome when the line ups were announced.
Sorry but we have progressed from last season, but we could have kicked on, we had the opportunity to kick on in the January window, we all knew Olly needed support ...
It never came, Jack got injured.... the rest is history.
Even Villa loving Paul Merson summed it up.... embarrassing to be honest!!
Plus I don’t understand why hasn’t more been made of the penalty award? - the ball was out!!! End off
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my spurs mate said the difference was the quality in the final third...
UTV
THe Doc
I agree
Yep. We miss Grealish. And when he's gone the difference is stark.
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This season has fizzled out like a day old can of pop. Dean seems clueless and unable to turn things round. The sight of his gormless expression is starting to get on my tits.
This .....i fear he is out of his depth
When did that happen then? We've improved each season he's been in charge.
All in the past for some supporters.
We've been in the prem for less than 2 seasons and its going to take time.
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This season has fizzled out like a day old can of pop. Dean seems clueless and unable to turn things round. The sight of his gormless expression is starting to get on my tits.
This .....i fear he is out of his depth
When did that happen then? We've improved each season he's been in charge.
All in the past for some supporters.
We've been in the prem for less than 2 seasons and its going to take time.
That sort of realism will never catch on.
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This season has fizzled out like a day old can of pop. Dean seems clueless and unable to turn things round. The sight of his gormless expression is starting to get on my tits.
This .....i fear he is out of his depth
When did that happen then? We've improved each season he's been in charge.
All in the past for some supporters.
We've been in the prem for less than 2 seasons and its going to take time.
That sort of realism will never catch on.
I know Dave but it's an opinion I'll keep hold of.
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Season over ........Will struggle to stay mid table at this rate
So very disappointing ......some big decisions to be made at the end of the season including the manager .......
Yes because getting us to where we are has been shit.
You may be satisfied with mediocrity ....I ain't
It's not where we are but where we are heading .....no disputing we had a brilliant start but we have reverted to the same dross as last season ...Smith seems both stubborn and limited ...
Give Smith much better players and he'd do much better. With what he's had he's done just fine.
Of course I want us at the top but I'm realistic. As for where we're heading, we've already done way better this season than last, and the season before that.
Realistically, where do you think we should be this season?
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Season over ........Will struggle to stay mid table at this rate
So very disappointing ......some big decisions to be made at the end of the season including the manager .......
Yes because getting us to where we are has been shit.
You may be satisfied with mediocrity ....I ain't
It's not where we are but where we are heading .....no disputing we had a brilliant start but we have reverted to the same dross as last season ...Smith seems both stubborn and limited ...
Give Smith much better players and he'd do much better. With what he's had he's done just fine.
Of course I want us at the top but I'm realistic. As for where we're heading, we've already done way better this season than last, and the season before that.
Realistically, where do you think we should be this season?
Disappointed with how our form has dipped since Christmas, but delighted to have reached the 40 point mark before Easter. Yes we’re inconsistent but this is only our second season back and we’re a young squad. We will improve next season under Smith just like we have the previous seasons under his leadership and coaching staff.