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Title: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Dave P on March 01, 2021, 09:15:31 AM
Big opportunity to cement our European credentials at a ground where we've been pretty abject the last few seasons.  They are full of heart but lack quality and I think we should have enough.

2-0 Villa.  Watkins and El Ghazi.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Moonraker on March 01, 2021, 09:24:09 AM
Congratulations on your 12345th post Dave. Good time to go fishing per the nursery rhyme?
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Dave P on March 01, 2021, 09:26:50 AM
Congratulations on your 12345th post Dave. Good time to go fishing per the nursery rhyme?

I never noticed that.  I may not post again so it doesn't ruin it.  Oh bugger!
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm
Post by: Risso on March 01, 2021, 09:26:50 AM
Please, please, please can we break the rule whereby we follow up a good win with a crap performance and/or result? Other than the first few games, we've done the following:

Beat Leicester followed by defeat to Leeds.
Beat Arsenal, followed by defeat to Brighton.
Beat Arsenal, draw with Burnley
Beat Newcastle, defeat to Burnley
Beat Southampton, loss to West Ham
Beat Arsenal, draw with Brighton

Sheffield United don't appear to have a lot up front though, so I'd hope to see more attacking intent from us. 0-2 Villa, El Ghazi and Watkins.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: TelfordVilla on March 01, 2021, 09:30:53 AM
Please, please, please can we break the rule whereby we follow up a good win with a crap performance and/or result? Other than the first few games, we've done the following:

Beat Leicester followed by defeat to Leeds.
Beat Arsenal, followed by defeat to Brighton.
Beat Arsenal, draw with Burnley
Beat Newcastle, defeat to Burnley
Beat Southampton, loss to West Ham
Beat Arsenal, draw with Brighton

Sheffield United don't appear to have a lot up front though, so I'd hope to see more attacking intent from us. 0-2 Villa, El Ghazi and Watkins.
we must be having a good season if we have beaten arsenal 3 times already. Can we play you every week......can we play you every week.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: brontebilly on March 01, 2021, 09:33:42 AM
Might be the right game to give Sanson his first start, maybe with Ramsey stepping out or even Traore. Watched Sheff Utds game yesterday, they really were dreadful. No matter the opposition, a win without Grealish and likely Martinez would be a very good evenings work.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: eamonn on March 01, 2021, 09:40:25 AM
Wilder declared for relegation last night after their defeat to Liverpool. Let's see them off with a funeral-ing.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Villafirst on March 01, 2021, 09:45:54 AM
In a strange season of shocks, don't forget Sheffield United beat Man United 2-1 at Old Trafford recently.....
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: brontebilly on March 01, 2021, 09:56:49 AM
In a strange season of shocks, don't forget Sheffield United beat Man United 2-1 at Old Trafford recently.....

I think they had some sense of hope then....but last night they really didn't. McBurnie (who they spent nearly 20m on!) missed a big chance at 1-0 but that aside they hardly troubled a rookie CB pairing and ended up making Adrian look competent in goal. Liverpool coming into the game in poor form too but they never looked like making a game of it.

As an aside, Wilder is getting a very easy ride in the media. He likes to paint a picture of them being paupers but he has spent huge money last summer on two complete flops (Brewster and Ramsdale). Before then he has bought a series of flops up front McBurnie, Mousset, Robinson...so much so he is back relying on likes of McGoldrick and Sharp.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: PGW on March 01, 2021, 10:00:37 AM
Congratulations on your 12345th post Dave. Good time to go fishing per the nursery rhyme?

As long as he throws it back alive.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on March 01, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
Might be the right game to give Sanson his first start, maybe with Ramsey stepping out or even Traore. Watched Sheff Utds game yesterday, they really were dreadful. No matter the opposition, a win without Grealish and likely Martinez would be a very good evenings work.
With three games in a week maybe it's time to start a bit of rotation, giving Traore and/or McGinn etc a rest. It would stop a bit of complacency and bring out the fight on a more constant basis. Making them all aware that there's competition for places and an off day will ensure a sit on the bench!
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Monty on March 01, 2021, 10:22:45 AM
We need to follow up here. Rock bottom they might be, they can still be a thorn and a pain to play against.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Baldy on March 01, 2021, 10:23:25 AM
Burnley have only scored 18 goals in 26 matches, 3 of them were against us!! The blades have only scored 15 goals in 26 games but we can't afford to be complacent again.

With proper application and with all our squad 'chomping on the bit' to get on the pitch we should win this 2-0.  :)
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Nev on March 01, 2021, 10:23:59 AM
I'd be tempted to perhaps rest Bertie or McGinn as previously stated, Sanson would be an ideal replacement, enough of the cameo appearances.

Other than that we our low block should be a higher block, let's not get cocky now, and put in an efficient dispatching of teams that should be dispatched efficiently.

0-1 again.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on March 01, 2021, 10:27:46 AM
Even with injuries (has Martinez been confirmed?) we should be winning this. One of the worst teams in PL history.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: OCD on March 01, 2021, 11:35:05 AM
As well as Ramsey getting some minutes, I would like to see Chukwuemeka and Kessler on the bench and making their debuts if circumstances allow. If Barkley can't contribute in this one, he may have to get used to collecting splinters. I assume we're not expecting Jack back yet.

Martinez/Heaton, Elmohamady, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Nakamba, McGinn, Barkley, Traore, Watkins, El Ghazi.

Subs - Davis, Heaton/Steer, Ramsey, Chukwuemeka, Sanson, Luiz, Trezeguet, Kessler, Engels.
Title: Sheffield Utd vs Aston Villa pre match thread - Wed, March 3rd - 6pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 01, 2021, 12:26:55 PM
A great chance over the next few games to push on for a Europa spot starting at Sheff Utd. They are hopeless but desperate now so we will still need a very professional, committed display to come away with the win. I expect Jack to still be missing and possibly a rare sighting of the lesser spotted Tom Heaton for Emi. I would actually rest SJM for this in favour of Sanson. Otherwise unchanged.

Iíll go for a 2-0 win - Watkins and AEG
Title: Re: Sheffield Utd vs Aston Villa pre match thread - Wed, March 3rd - 6pm
Post by: Risso on March 01, 2021, 12:32:36 PM
I'd leave the team exactly as it is for this one. We shouldn't come under too much pressure from Sheff U, so it would be nice to reward Ramsey for a good display with a second consecutive start, and also try to get Traore to be a bit more consistent.
Title: Re: Sheffield Utd vs Aston Villa pre match thread - Wed, March 3rd - 6pm
Post by: Drummond on March 01, 2021, 12:38:03 PM
I think I'd agree with Risso, though I'd give Barkley a subs appearance on precisely 75 minutes for him to then score a hat-trick (given that's when he thinks he's at his most dangerous!)

Our house may be a little tense.

I'd like a 0-3 scoreline. Watkins, AEG and McGinn from 30 yards.
Title: Re: Sheffield Utd vs Aston Villa pre match thread - Wed, March 3rd - 6pm
Post by: Bobby Boy on March 01, 2021, 01:06:02 PM
I'd go with the same eleven on the basis that Jack still isn't fit and Martinez is OK to play.

Thought Liverpool were pretty ordinary yesterday but still could easily have scored 6 or 7.

Sheff U may nick one but I'd fancy us to nick more than one.

2-1 to Villa.
Title: Re: Sheffield Utd vs Aston Villa pre match thread - Wed, March 3rd - 6pm
Post by: darren woolley on March 01, 2021, 01:21:04 PM
I reckon we will beat the Blades 2-0.
Title: Re: Sheffield Utd vs Aston Villa pre match thread - Wed, March 3rd - 6pm
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2021, 01:37:22 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Sheffield Utd vs Aston Villa pre match thread - Wed, March 3rd - 6pm
Post by: OCD on March 01, 2021, 01:44:54 PM
There's 2 Pre-Match threads now.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2021, 01:49:48 PM
There's 2 Pre-Match threads now.

Ta. Merged. Some poll votes will need to be redone as they can only carry over from one thread and do not get combined as the posts do.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Dr Butler on March 01, 2021, 01:53:15 PM
Sheff Utd nil please Villa..


UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: LeeB on March 01, 2021, 02:22:55 PM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: in exile on March 01, 2021, 02:55:17 PM
Comfortable 0-2 win.
I'd like to see Sanson stert this one.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Drummond on March 01, 2021, 03:03:44 PM
I don't like it when we're extremely confident or pessimistic. See the predictions of massive defeats on Saturday. This has the hallmarks of one of those games. If we're professional and hardworking our quality should see us through, however, any complacency and they can do some damage. The reverse fixture was tricky.

I'm nervous.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 01, 2021, 03:13:32 PM
Same approach as against Leeds should see the job done. It wont be easy as Sheff Utd always compete even though their fate is sealed.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 01, 2021, 03:14:17 PM
Like to see Sanson start to freshen it again as we have the sausage dogs at the weekend . Maybe Bertie rested and bring on for 20 mins as I thought SJM looked better against Leeds . 
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 01, 2021, 06:31:19 PM
Do we think there will be any mention by the media or indeed idiots on Twitter with accompanying photos of an alleged incident in a game between us last season where a ball was adjudged (or not) not to have crossed a line?
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: TelfordVilla on March 01, 2021, 06:38:11 PM
Do we think there will be any mention by the media or indeed idiots on Twitter with accompanying photos of an alleged incident in a game between us last season where a ball was adjudged (or not) not to have crossed a line?
I'm sure that's all been forgotten about by now....
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on March 01, 2021, 06:39:55 PM
Jon, that will take up the first 5 minutes of pre match studio conversation, the rest will be spent on whoever Man Utd will be playing next!!
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 01, 2021, 06:57:59 PM
We need to follow up here. Rock bottom they might be, they can still be a thorn and a pain to play against.

Agreed, we should beat them but we're due a bit of bad luck in a game against them. An early goal should set us up for a comfortable victory ahead of the Wolves game but a tedious 0-0 wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2021, 07:01:05 PM
Do we think there will be any mention by the media or indeed idiots on Twitter with accompanying photos of an alleged incident in a game between us last season where a ball was adjudged (or not) not to have crossed a line?

Do you mean this? Clear foul on the GK by Davis.

Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Risso on March 01, 2021, 07:09:53 PM
Cracking save. God, I miss Nyland as a Villa player.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: LeeB on March 01, 2021, 07:12:01 PM
Cracking save. God, I miss Nyland as a Villa player.

The biggest threat Keinan has been to a goal in over a year, bless him.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 01, 2021, 07:17:08 PM
Cracking save. God, I miss Nyland as a Villa player.

The biggest threat Keinan has been to a goal in over a year, bless him.

Just spat my tea out reading this.

Bravo sir.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: RamboandBruno on March 01, 2021, 07:20:31 PM
Declaring relegation, may actually free them up maybe? Either way I wouldnít take this for granted and start resting players here and there. Unlike WBA they havenít been battered on a regular basis this season, mainly beat by one or two goals, virtually every week mind.
Traore wasnít great on Saturday, but weíll severely limit our already hindered attacking threat by taking him out. Would possibly give Sonson a go for Ramsey, the kid was good on Saturday, but Sanson needs a start soon.
2-0 (Watkins, Traore).
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on March 01, 2021, 07:27:25 PM
Sheffield United are way short on quality and belief. Let's hope the fact they are already as good as down means
they will be demoralised. The opposite effect might be that they have nothing to lose and start playing with freedom.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on March 01, 2021, 07:27:55 PM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.

My favourite quote from Das Kapital is 'don't shout at football players.í

Double figures?
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Richard E on March 01, 2021, 07:36:20 PM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.

My favourite quote from Das Kapital is 'don't shout at football players.í

Double figures?

ĎA spectre is haunting Sheffield, the spectre of relegation.í
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Steve67 on March 01, 2021, 07:39:29 PM
Way too confident.  Never a good sign. 

Be professional Villa.  We are not at home to Mr Fuckup.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: LeeB on March 01, 2021, 08:00:55 PM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.

My favourite quote from Das Kapital is 'don't shout at football players.í

Double figures?

ĎA spectre is haunting Sheffield, the spectre of relegation.í

'The surplus value should not be spunked on Oliver McBurnie'
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Risso on March 01, 2021, 08:53:16 PM
No excuses for not easily beating these. I really don't want to hear Dean in his post match comments moaning abut how slow we were out of the blocks or anything like that. Let's give the rest of the top 6 something to shit their breeches about by putting together a few wins on the bounce now.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Gareth on March 01, 2021, 08:58:27 PM
I think this will be a proper tough game, they have suffered more than most by second season syndrome (hopefully dirty Leeds follow their lead lol) but they are still game if lacking on the attacking quality.  Feel for them a little, losing Henderson & then Ramsdale only just now starting to look the part & getting very few games out of the 3 excellent centre backs who were immense last season is unfortunate-the bollock they dropped was going in so heavily on Brewster when he needed to either get 20 mins here & there at Liverpool or spend the year in championship developing.

Would expect Barkley back in for this one & maybe Sanson starting too....hopefully doing well to give mgr big headaches for Sat night.

If any doubt over Martinez then play Heaton...likewise if Cash isnít 100% stick with Elmo & even look to give Kessler 20 mins if possible.

Presumably Jack isnít going to play?

Would still a some point like to see half hour of Davis up top & Watkins go wide
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 01, 2021, 09:06:56 PM
I only want to ever see Davis if we are 4 up. Not if we need a goal.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 01, 2021, 09:12:57 PM
Score first and we're home and dry.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Allan C on March 02, 2021, 08:07:47 AM
They are totally lacking in quality and look a Championship side but we shouldnít be complacent and start resting players here and there. I donít see this as a good place to start Sanson and would start the same team as against Leeds. Villa win 3-0 but itíll take hard work from start to finish  donít care who scores
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: manic-road on March 02, 2021, 08:15:58 AM
0-1 to Villa, AEG to score again.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: in exile on March 02, 2021, 11:02:20 AM
I only want to ever see Davis if we are 4 up. Not if we need a goal.
Hear, hear.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: sid1964 on March 02, 2021, 11:15:43 AM
Be a tough game - this is the type of game that we usually lose

Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Risso on March 02, 2021, 11:52:17 AM
I only want to ever see Davis if we are 4 up. Not if we need a goal.

I wouldn't mind if we never saw him again to be honest. Not good enough.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 02, 2021, 12:22:04 PM
it will be tough as they do not stop working and have nothing to lose ,  but we should have enough quality to beat them
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Gareth on March 02, 2021, 12:35:03 PM
I only want to ever see Davis if we are 4 up. Not if we need a goal.

I wouldn't mind if we never saw him again to be honest. Not good enough.

Whilst I agree that heíll never score enough goals to be a regular Prem Lg striker he does have attributes in short bursts in terms of holding the ball up and bringing team mates into the game - my original point was more about occasionally getting Ollie out wide for half hour, we know he can play that role & in terms of mixing it up & giving opponent something to think about.

Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: somec on March 02, 2021, 12:35:28 PM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.


Genuine question, what is this in reference to?

Did Wilder have a go at lefties and snowflakes?
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2021, 12:42:29 PM
I only want to ever see Davis if we are 4 up. Not if we need a goal.

I wouldn't mind if we never saw him again to be honest. Not good enough.


Yes preferably. Heís not even proven himself to be Championship quality.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 02, 2021, 12:51:17 PM
I like him again now:

villareport
@villareport
Chris Wilder: ďBrilliant club, fabulous supporters. I went to watch them against Derby, was late and got caught up entering with Villa fans. I think they are a brilliant club, they are huge and I think only people in football realise how big they are.Ē [
@SufcLive
] #avfc

Wilder: ďDelighted for Dean and Jack for them to be in the Premier League with their home town club. I hope Jack Grealish doesn't play (tomorrow), have another day off Jack and return at the weekend because I think he is the best player in England.Ē #avfc
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 02, 2021, 01:01:54 PM
Way too confident.  Never a good sign. 

Be professional Villa.  We are not at home to Mr Fuckup.

Weíre away.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: The Edge on March 02, 2021, 06:13:30 PM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.


Genuine question, what is this in reference to?

Did Wilder have a go at lefties and snowflakes?
The quote I heard was "I don't listen to lefties and do gooders" It that's true I'm diametrically opposed to his political views. However I think politics should be kept out of football and I've always thought he sounds a decent bloke. He also speaks very highly of our beloved club so I'll let him off this time.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 02, 2021, 06:21:52 PM
I like him again now:

villareport
@villareport
Chris Wilder: ďBrilliant club, fabulous supporters. I went to watch them against Derby, was late and got caught up entering with Villa fans. I think they are a brilliant club, they are huge and I think only people in football realise how big they are.Ē [
@SufcLive
] #avfc

Wilder: ďDelighted for Dean and Jack for them to be in the Premier League with their home town club. I hope Jack Grealish doesn't play (tomorrow), have another day off Jack and return at the weekend because I think he is the best player in England.Ē #avfc


Ha ha yes we are a fickle bunch 😀.   I heard him on sky he sounds quite relaxed and jovial as if there is not the pressure anymore,  they play with nothing to lose , could be dangerous
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on March 02, 2021, 09:14:56 PM
A bit of tongue in cheek DS Villa speak v more accurate assessment....
1) Fit and raring to go = will probably miss the next 2 games.
2) will be out for next game maybe but, should be available the match after that = out for at least 4/6 weeks.
3) in full contact training = still out for at least another 3 months.
4) back training on the grass = still about 6 months from being available.
5) edging ever closer to a return = look again in about one years time.
6) a lot of work to be done = will probably never play again.
Unless you other good people have anymore to add!!
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: LeeB on March 02, 2021, 09:34:43 PM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.


Genuine question, what is this in reference to?

Did Wilder have a go at lefties and snowflakes?
The quote I heard was "I don't listen to lefties and do gooders" It that's true I'm diametrically opposed to his political views. However I think politics should be kept out of football and I've always thought he sounds a decent bloke. He also speaks very highly of our beloved club so I'll let him off this time.

I always thought highly of him until I saw those comments, but now I've heard what he said earlier about the club, manager and Jack I've changed again, largely because I'm a fickle, shallow bastard.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on March 02, 2021, 09:47:53 PM
Sugarbag.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 02, 2021, 11:03:25 PM
A win tomorrow and we're in with the top pack; anything less and we're down with the midtable strugglers. Credit to Dean, he has got everybody putting in the effort, now we need to see the flair. Time to put in a really strong performance and the 3 points. We're good enough but we hopefully now rested and with a strong enough squad can step it up a level or two.

That said, it will be the hard work that starts the ball rolling..
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Ads on March 03, 2021, 12:12:13 AM
I would go with

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Nakamba
Sanson
Ramsey

El Ghazi
Watkins
Traore

Rest McGinn so he can be fit for Saturday.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: algy on March 03, 2021, 07:34:17 AM
I would go with

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Nakamba
Sanson
Ramsey

El Ghazi
Watkins
Traore

Rest McGinn so he can be fit for Saturday.
Same for me.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: robbo1874 on March 03, 2021, 08:33:48 AM
Donít want to jinx this one with a prediction, but on paper youíd have to go for a Villa win. Hopefully they remember to switch Hawkeye or whatever itís called on. I donít mind the blades so wonít say FTFYF
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 03, 2021, 09:02:11 AM
I would go with

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Nakamba
Sanson
Ramsey

El Ghazi
Watkins
Traore

Rest McGinn so he can be fit for Saturday.
I would be tempted to bring in Luiz for Ramsey but happy with that line up.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Fred Crump on March 03, 2021, 09:08:32 AM
Is it on TV ?
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Duncan Shaw on March 03, 2021, 09:12:48 AM
Is it on TV ?
BT Sport
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Fred Crump on March 03, 2021, 09:23:00 AM
Thanks .
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Chris Smith on March 03, 2021, 09:32:02 AM
I think it would be a mistake to drop McGinn with Grealish already out the team needs his leadership on the pitch.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Allan C on March 03, 2021, 10:15:26 AM
I would go with

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Nakamba
Sanson
Ramsey

El Ghazi
Watkins
Traore

Rest McGinn so he can be fit for Saturday.
Donít think Iíd drop McGinn for this one, not sure Sanson is ready for a full PL match yet. Otherwise agree with this
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Rigadon on March 03, 2021, 10:48:45 AM
I think it would be a mistake to drop McGinn with Grealish already out the team needs his leadership on the pitch.

Me too.  No way Smith will drop McGinn. 
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on March 03, 2021, 10:50:22 AM
McGinnin.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: dicedlam on March 03, 2021, 10:56:35 AM
I would go with

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Nakamba
Sanson
Ramsey

El Ghazi
Watkins
Traore

Rest McGinn so he can be fit for Saturday.
Donít think Iíd drop McGinn for this one, not sure Sanson is ready for a full PL match yet. Otherwise agree with this

I'm not sure I understand the line ''not sure Sanson is ready for a full PL match yet'' He played 12 Ligue 1 and 6 Champions League games before we signed him in January and seems a 'box to box' type of player with the energy to match.
I'm pretty sure we would have thrown him in straight away if we had been at the other end of the table?
From what I have seen of him, I think he is very much in the same mold as McGinn in style of play, so I would give him a start tonight and give John a well-deserved rest.


Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 03, 2021, 11:12:55 AM
I would go with

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Nakamba
Sanson
Ramsey

El Ghazi
Watkins
Traore

Rest McGinn so he can be fit for Saturday.
Donít think Iíd drop McGinn for this one, not sure Sanson is ready for a full PL match yet. Otherwise agree with this

I'm not sure I understand the line ''not sure Sanson is ready for a full PL match yet'' He played 12 Ligue 1 and 6 Champions League games before we signed him in January and seems a 'box to box' type of player with the energy to match.
I'm pretty sure we would have thrown him in straight away if we had been at the other end of the table?
From what I have seen of him, I think he is very much in the same mold as McGinn in style of play, so I would give him a start tonight and give John a well-deserved rest.




agree with all of this
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Ads on March 03, 2021, 11:17:36 AM
McGinn has played well the last two games and I just think with Real Dingleona on Saturday it might be wise to swap him out for a Champions League standard player so he doesn't play 3 games in a week. Then we can bring McGinn back in for Ramsey and the midfield stays fresh.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: john e on March 03, 2021, 11:45:12 AM
I would go with

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Nakamba
Sanson
Ramsey

El Ghazi
Watkins
Traore

Rest McGinn so he can be fit for Saturday.
Donít think Iíd drop McGinn for this one, not sure Sanson is ready for a full PL match yet. Otherwise agree with this

I'm not sure I understand the line ''not sure Sanson is ready for a full PL match yet'' He played 12 Ligue 1 and 6 Champions League games before we signed him in January and seems a 'box to box' type of player with the energy to match.
I'm pretty sure we would have thrown him in straight away if we had been at the other end of the table?
From what I have seen of him, I think he is very much in the same mold as McGinn in style of play, so I would give him a start tonight and give John a well-deserved rest.




its absolutely ridiculous he was right up to speed fitness wise, probably not as match fit now
Lingard hadn't played a game all season and Moyes threw him in and he's never looked back

we started last season with Taylor and Elmo as the full backs for about 6 games before he gave Target and Guilbert a chance
if he wasn't so cautious at the start i think we may have had a couple more points on the board and wouldn't have had to rely on others to stay up
just my view obvs

if Smith doesn't think he's good enough or doesn't trust him yet that's fair enough
but all this gently gently stuff, a few minutes here and there is typical old fashioned British managers crap same as only making subs on 65-70 mins
we've got to be more progressive than that if we want to break into the top 6






Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: somec on March 03, 2021, 11:49:14 AM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.


Genuine question, what is this in reference to?

Did Wilder have a go at lefties and snowflakes?
The quote I heard was "I don't listen to lefties and do gooders" It that's true I'm diametrically opposed to his political views. However I think politics should be kept out of football and I've always thought he sounds a decent bloke. He also speaks very highly of our beloved club so I'll let him off this time.

I always thought highly of him until I saw those comments, but now I've heard what he said earlier about the club, manager and Jack I've changed again, largely because I'm a fickle, shallow bastard.

Cheers both.

His comments about Villa are 100% Spot on!

We should win tonight, but since this is Villa we are talking about it is never that simple is it?!
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Bad English on March 03, 2021, 12:16:53 PM
Is it on TV ?
BT Sport
RMC Sport in France.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on March 03, 2021, 12:30:19 PM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter these mugs, 4-0. They looked gone last night, their heart isn't in it any more, can see them getting some humpings between now and the end of the season.

And I for one won't be shedding my snowflake, leftie tears for Chris.


Genuine question, what is this in reference to?

Did Wilder have a go at lefties and snowflakes?
The quote I heard was "I don't listen to lefties and do gooders" It that's true I'm diametrically opposed to his political views. However I think politics should be kept out of football and I've always thought he sounds a decent bloke. He also speaks very highly of our beloved club so I'll let him off this time.

He should keep his political views out of football, but as heís shared them I think it completely fair to hope that we give him and his pretty awful team an absolute shoeing.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on March 03, 2021, 12:49:12 PM
Anyone who uses lefties as an insult can fuck off. Right wing tosspots.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 03, 2021, 01:48:37 PM
Cheers both.

His comments about Villa are 100% Spot on!

We should win tonight, but since this is Villa we are talking about it is never that simple is it?!

Agreed, his comments are 100% spot on.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 03, 2021, 01:52:01 PM
Regardless of what he might think about Jack Grealish, a bigot is still a bigot.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: nigel on March 03, 2021, 01:57:19 PM
This will be no push over.
Once again a rivalry has been established, for them, out of thin air. Well, out of Hawkeye.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Drummond on March 03, 2021, 02:24:21 PM
There are a few who bring it up re the goal-line crap until I put them back in their box regarding other goals that were given/not given. Anyway, they've all got the tail between their legs this season.

Wilder, it appears, is getting ready to go. He's made comments about not having much money, not having had promises kept that were made by the owner, and moaned about sharing pitches with the Academy and U23 squad.

Apparently though, he's a nice bloke, a colleague is close friends with him.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: clash city rocker on March 03, 2021, 02:49:27 PM
Just win Villa. Not bothered if it's good, bad , ugly. Just win. Oh and if Mings could score first as my mate has backed him at 40/1.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: mike on March 03, 2021, 03:03:30 PM
This has banana skin written all over it.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: ktvillan on March 03, 2021, 03:08:25 PM
As Risso said on page 1 we have a tendency to follow up a good result with an unexpectedly shite one, and even moreso when it gives us an opportunity such as getting very close to the CL places.  If we can win at Leeds we should be able to beat the Blades, especially as, unlike Leeds, they find it very hard to score.  I think we'll manage a 2-0 win.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 03, 2021, 03:09:20 PM
This will be no push over.
Once again a rivalry has been established, for them, out of thin air. Well, out of Hawkeye.

To be fair to their supporters, them and Bournemouth don't talk about it anywhere near as much as our noisy neighbours x2 and Spotlessly Clean Leeds.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Drummond on March 03, 2021, 03:13:01 PM
This will be no push over.
Once again a rivalry has been established, for them, out of thin air. Well, out of Hawkeye.

To be fair to their supporters, them and Bournemouth don't talk about it anywhere near as much as our noisy neighbours x2 and Spotlessly Clean Leeds.

It's the only decision from last season that ever seems to get mentioned. No other disallowed goals, handballs, penalties that should have been awarded etc etc. To be fair, it was a shit decision but there were VARious more, especially of the VARiety where Stockley Park were involved.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: clash city rocker on March 03, 2021, 03:26:56 PM
This has banana skin written all over it.

Did you know. Banana skins are very good for verrucas.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: darren woolley on March 03, 2021, 03:40:29 PM
I'm going for a 2-0 win for us.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 03, 2021, 03:42:04 PM
This has banana skin written all over it.

why does it?
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on March 03, 2021, 03:57:49 PM
A very good friend of mine from my uni days is a Blade, we went to loads of different games during those times, since when we have each liked to see the other's team do well.  I have a bit of an inkling for a draw today, 2-2.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: mike on March 03, 2021, 04:04:12 PM
This has banana skin written all over it.

why does it?

Because, as others have said, we always seem to pull out a bad performance after a good one and we seem to be better at beating teams like Liverpool and Arsenal than Burnley or Brighton.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: paul_e on March 03, 2021, 04:10:32 PM
This will be no push over.
Once again a rivalry has been established, for them, out of thin air. Well, out of Hawkeye.

To be fair to their supporters, them and Bournemouth don't talk about it anywhere near as much as our noisy neighbours x2 and Spotlessly Clean Leeds.

It's the only decision from last season that ever seems to get mentioned. No other disallowed goals, handballs, penalties that should have been awarded etc etc. To be fair, it was a shit decision but there were VARious more, especially of the VARiety where Stockley Park were involved.

What's been pissing me off recently is all the noise over Brighton having their goal disallowed when, however poor it was, it's nothing like as bad as Friend blowing up as Lansbury was scoring against Palace so he could book Grealish for diving. I don't remember anything like as much noise over that.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: villa for life on March 03, 2021, 04:11:16 PM
Weíll win today. Leeds was the banana skin. Villa will be very focused after seeing Evertonís win last night.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Drummond on March 03, 2021, 04:21:17 PM
A very good friend of mine from my uni days is a Blade, we went to loads of different games during those times, since when we have each liked to see the other's team do well.  I have a bit of an inkling for a draw today, 2-2.

They've scored 2 goals in matches against ManUtd when they lost 3-2 and West Brom which they won 2-1. That's it. We've one of the better defences in the league, surely they can't score 2 against us?

Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on March 03, 2021, 04:22:10 PM
McGinnin.

I have got the Michael Finnegan song stuck in my head now.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Mister E on March 03, 2021, 04:22:32 PM
What's been pissing me off recently is all the noise over Brighton having their goal disallowed when, however poor it was, it's nothing like as bad as Friend blowing up as Lansbury was scoring against Palace so he could book Grealish for diving. I don't remember anything like as much noise over that.
Yup, that still boils my piss that Friend deliberately avoided a VAR decision by whistling before the ball crossed the line.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on March 03, 2021, 04:26:37 PM
Hated these wan***s ever since they thrashed us under Bruce, their throwback fans thought they were the bollocks giving it loads after the game. Would be really happy to see us hammer another nail in their coffin today, can't wait to see them go back down.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Drummond on March 03, 2021, 04:28:26 PM
McGinnin.

I have got the Michael Finnegan song stuck in my head now.

I didn't until I read this post.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on March 03, 2021, 04:29:22 PM
A very good friend of mine from my uni days is a Blade, we went to loads of different games during those times, since when we have each liked to see the other's team do well.  I have a bit of an inkling for a draw today, 2-2.

They've scored 2 goals in matches against ManUtd when they lost 3-2 and West Brom which they won 2-1. That's it. We've one of the better defences in the league, surely they can't score 2 against us?



Well you'd hope not, but I guess I've come to expect the unexpected from this Villa side, and Sheffield United will score 2 in a match again sooner or later, just as our run of clean sheets away from home will come to an end sooner or later also.






Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 03, 2021, 04:30:19 PM
This has banana skin written all over it.

why does it?

Because, as others have said, we always seem to pull out a bad performance after a good one and we seem to be better at beating teams like Liverpool and Arsenal than Burnley or Brighton.

We won 4 straight to start the season which included beating Leicester after we beat Liverpool. We beat Palace after we beat Albion. Of course we will have had bad results after good ones. We are inconsistent as expected of any side sitting where we are. But there is no rule that this is a banana skin game any more than there is a rule that we follow up a poor performance with a good one. We will likely blow a bit hot or cold for the balance of the campaign. And at PL level of we donít play well against anyone we will lose. Banana skin to me means we will take this for granted and slip up. I donít see that attitude at the club.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: mike on March 03, 2021, 04:53:29 PM
This has banana skin written all over it.

why does it?

Because, as others have said, we always seem to pull out a bad performance after a good one and we seem to be better at beating teams like Liverpool and Arsenal than Burnley or Brighton.

We won 4 straight to start the season which included beating Leicester after we beat Liverpool. We beat Palace after we beat Albion. Of course we will have had bad results after good ones. We are inconsistent as expected of any side sitting where we are. But there is no rule that this is a banana skin game any more than there is a rule that we follow up a poor performance with a good one. We will likely blow a bit hot or cold for the balance of the campaign. And at PL level of we donít play well against anyone we will lose. Banana skin to me means we will take this for granted and slip up. I donít see that attitude at the club.

I'm a middle aged man from Birmingham so I am naturally a glass half full kind of guy. Furthermore, I'm recovering from Covid, which has ballsed up my family climbing/cycling challenge. So don't start with all your positivity, however much it may based on fact.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 03, 2021, 05:00:56 PM
Unchanged team.
Title: Re: Sheffield United v Aston Villa - 03.03.21 6pm. Pre-Match Thread.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 03, 2021, 05:03:51 PM
Unchanged team.

Is that a request or have you got an early heads up ?
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