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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Monty on February 27, 2021, 07:24:04 PM
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Hard, battled, feisty win. Great character shown.
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Mings outstanding
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Job done.
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Leeds will definitely, unequivocally eviscerate us. Anyone who thinks Villa will win is a fool and a knave - and if you show yourself here stating your stupid opinion, I will seek you out post-match and laugh in your credulous face, you idiot. There is no chance of me being wrong about this. I don't even know the meaning of the word hubris, because I'll never have to.
Fate, can I get you a drink?
You are welcome.
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Get in. Great character shown and really limited them. A solid job.
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what a fucking game plan and how well was it executed by the team. One of the all round best defensive displays I can recall because every player was involved. Brilliant.
Oh and fuck off Leeds
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Much better today. Real grit in that performance. A true 7/10 for everyone.
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Superb.Mings Motm easily.God do I detest Leeds and their dark arts.
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I was dreading that game. Proper character shown. Delighted with that as any win this season so far.
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Yeah, the difference in energy and workrate from the Leicester game was massive.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56135046
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One man team beats amazing team without one man playing.
Well done boys, thought Nakamba was superb tonight.
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Mings outstanding
Mings immense
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Brilliant display.
Well done lads.
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Fantastic. So solid. Sanson looked useful when he came on, Ramsey v v good. Traore probably the weak link but he still did ok. Did Leeds actually have a shot on target?
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Marv=Clean sheet
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McGinn works much better with Nakamba.
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Great thread title. Keep it up.
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Most professional performance of season, Mings 10, Konsa, Nakamba, McGinn 8, everybody else 8.
They never looked like scoring.
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Hard fought win another clean sheet I'm so happy with the three points I hope Emi's injury isn't serious.
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How satisfying is that? It wasn't always pretty but we competed, we fought and we showed the fight and grit that is the sign of a team who want to succeed.
All round great effort.
One of the best wins of the season.
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Yeah, the difference in energy and workrate from the Leicester game was massive.
I would say it is a continuation from whatever was said at HT vs Leicester.
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Rock fucking solid, love that.
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Probably the most comfortable I felt us defending a 1-0 goal lead in eternity. Compare that to hanging on v Southampton and also the Brighton game.
Second half seemed to fly by with Leeds offering hardly anything until near the end.
Superb team performance and win. Need to back this up with midweek win and season will get very interesting again.
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It's Impressive keeping a clean sheet against that team.
Dirty bustards.
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Mings superb, how did Klich not get a second yellow on SJM.
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Thirteen clean sheets so far this season.
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Leeds - the epitome of footballing shithousery:
Shit players.
Shit tactics
Shit attitude
Shit ground
Shit manager
Shit pitch
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Never in doubt that we could win without Jack: will shut a few up in the media now, hopefully!
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Mings has really got back into form of late.
Thought the ref was pretty good.
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Oh and keep Marv in please Dean. We seem to do alright when he plays. Turning into Makélélé "light".
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I thought we were outstanding tonght, first half we created chances and AEG took his chance well, second half snuffed Leeds out and we looked comfortable doing it. A great three points.
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Excellent, dogged team performance. Nakamba continued where he left off from the last game and was MOTM for me. Elmo was also very disciplined and Mings was no nonsense.
Credit to Smith for making the necessary changes that were much needed. Did we miss Luiz and Barkley? The answer is no!
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The midfield competed and we got a result. Worth noting.
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Well played everyone. Solid professional performance. I know Trez only came on towards the end, but I absolutely love his commitment. Thought we might struggle in this game, so what a great result.
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And kudos to Deano for the team selection
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Am really starting to think Konza is going tp be one of our all time time great centre backs. Outstanding display by him and he's that good, he looks anonymous. Well done all the boys. Hated every minute of that 😀
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Phenomenal work rate from Villa, really put a shift in.
Ramsey doing what Barkley should be. pressing and making a nuisance.
old school away win
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A win doesn’t come much sweeter than beating those cheating, moaning, dirty fuckers.
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If you'd asked around after 10 games who Villa's three most important players were, chances are many responses would run 'Grealish, Luiz, Barkley'. Tonight, for reasons of fitness and form, we were without all of them, and coming off a terrible run of results and performances - and we went to a difficult ground and wrestled out three excellent points. A great display of spine, grit, and organisation.
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Oh and keep Marv in please Dean. We seem to do alright when he plays. Turning into Makélélé "light".
Definitely. Every team that wants to go places needs their Ndidi or Kante. I'm not suggesting that Nakamba is in that class but he adds that physicality that makes us a better team.
Great stuff Marv.
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Great thread title. Keep it up.
How?
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Thought we’d lose before i saw the changes. Great performance.
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Barkley is not signing then.
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Thought Mings and Konsa were immense. Really pleased for El Ghazi though. He didn't deserve to be dropped after being in the form of his life before.
Good to see us prove we can do it without Grealish too.
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This match has shown that Barkley just slows our game down,loved the energy in middle
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I was dreading that game. Proper character shown. Delighted with that as any win this season so far.
Very much this .........credit to Smith and His team ...one of the best results this season ...well done Villa - I can now enjoy a relaxing Sunday
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The work rate and commitment were great today.
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El Ghazi winners at Leeds, WBA and Wolves - that's pretty impressive for him.
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Great result. Everybody did their job superbly.
Not only are they dirty whites, they're also cheating whites. Klich should have been off for persistent fouling. Targett fought like a lion. Mings motm. McGinn much improved. The ref did his best not to give us any decisions. Brilliant work coaches and the whole Villa team. Btw Bielsa is a coronary waiting to happen, he's a friutcake on the touchline.
UTV!
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Great win against the filthy white whinging bastards.
Gave the ball away a bit cheaply at times but the defence was excellent. Pleased for El Ghazi and I hope that whatever the problem is with Martinez isn't serious.
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Couldn’t fault the game plan or any of the players today. Mings MOM for me, closely followed by Nakamba. Sanson looked good, when he came on and, would love to see him starting a game.
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Terrible of us to not concede the game before kick off to Bielsa's might Leeds.
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Leeds - the epitome of footballing shithousery:
Shit players.
Shit tactics
Shit attitude
Shit ground
Shit manager
Shit pitch
They also share a shit song with Coventry.
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Special mention for Elmo.
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Pretty much a textbook away performance. Stifled their threat, always looked capable of doing something on the break and managed the game out.
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Well well the doom merchants from the Pre match thread take a look!!! A superb performance against “Real” Leeds and despite their huffing and puffing they had one shot on goal. Defence outstanding yet again and a hardworking midfield were great. Another quality performance
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Eat my words from a few weeks ago
No weekly fuck up from Mings. He was immense today .
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Dion has just mentioned it.
Our game management was brilliant.
And what a defensive partnership.
Minhs and Konsa superb and I'm sure if we'd played all weekend Leeds wouldn't have scored.
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Special mention for Elmo.
Absolutely. Not first pick of course but he can do it now and then.
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Very impressive, can think of only one decent chance Leeds had, in the 2nd half.
UP THE VILLA
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Excellent win and performance. Leeds never had any chances of note.
The midfield 3 worked harder than Leeds and the defence were totally assured. Effort and tempo from the start set the tone and if anything first half we looked more threatening.
Positives
El Ghazi. When he's bad, he is beyond woeful. When he's good, he is Ronaldo.
The effort and tempo they sustained, particularly in midfield was fantastic. They matched Leeds and that is the minimum requirement.
Nakamba. Fair play. I think his distribution is poor, unfortunately, but his positioning has certainly improved and he gave us real bite and energy.
Mings, the past few games he has stepped up and been an absolute leader.
Leeds never had a sniff in the final third. Night and day from the last two performances.
Negatives
Emi has a knock. Fingers crossed he's OK.
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We haven't conceded with Marv on the pitch apparently. 4 starts, 8 apps total.
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Emi has a tight groin.
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One man team beats amazing team without one man playing.
Well done boys, thought Nakamba was superb tonight.
Ha ha!! Nice one.
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One man team beats amazing team without one man playing.
Well done boys, thought Nakamba was superb tonight.
Ha ha!! Nice one.
Very.
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Emi has a tight groin.
This is where it is great having two solid keepers in reserve. Heaton is a very good back up indeed. And we all know about Jed.
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We haven't conceded with Marv on the pitch apparently. 4 starts, 8 apps total.
He's nowhere near the ability of Luiz, which is utterly irrelevant if the team performs better with him in it.
He was excellent tonight.
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It's still there for Barkley.
The quality was obvious in the early part of the campaign until his injury.
If nothing else, it's great to have that sort of option from the bench.
But he'll have a fight on now to get back into the starting XI. How it should be.
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Pretty much a textbook away performance. Stifled their threat, always looked capable of doing something on the break and managed the game out.
Our 1-0 wins this season have been impressive. Without checking I don't think we have lost a game after leading other than fucking Burnley?
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Leeds - the epitome of footballing shithousery:
Shit players.
Shit tactics
Shit attitude
Shit ground
Shit manager
Shit pitch
They also share a shit song with Coventry.
What's that?
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We are quite good at these 0-1 away wins. How many is that now?
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Brilliant win. Tactics superb, shape without ball was excellent, a lot more legs and bite in midfield. Of course, we will have better days in terms of keeping possession but compared to Leicester we were just so much better. One of Dean Smiths best days in charge of us, I've been quite critical lately but there were some very ballsy selection calls that worked out. But we clearly worked very hard in training on our shape during the week. It all paid dividends.
Elmo started very poorly but settled down. Traore only moan for me, thought he was dreadful to be honest. No idea how he lasted the 95 mins...
Martinez 7, Elmo 6, Konsa 8, Mings 8, Targett 7, Nakamba 7, McGinn 7, Ramsey 6, Traore 4, Watkins 6, AEG 8.5. Both our subs Sanson and Trez were lively, Sanson looks a classy footballer.
Luiz and Barkley now need to get the finger out big time to get back in.
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Excellent away performance. Mings & Konsa superb, Nakamba was... marvelous.
Credit to Smith, got it spot on tactically, exposed their limitations and totally out-thought bucket boy.
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Leeds - the epitome of footballing shithousery:
Shit players.
Shit tactics
Shit attitude
Shit ground
Shit manager
Shit pitch
Hmm, at least half of that is untrue though.
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Mon you Villa boys, virtually never threatened by Dirty Media United.
Konsa and Mings both international class, McGinn much improved, every one worked his arse off for the win.
Europe back on and... whisper it... we are probably safe. 😃
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Well done to the Villa by winning against the best coach in the world and best team to ever be promoted into the Prem division.
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Well well the doom merchants from the Pre match thread take a look!!! A superb performance against “Real” Leeds and despite their huffing and puffing they had one shot on goal. Defence outstanding yet again and a hardworking midfield were great. Another quality performance
very happy to be proved wrong. Only saw the 2nd half and it didn’t look a classic, although I gather we were better 1st half. Leeds had the bulk of the possession but created nothing until that close range header at the end they probably should’ve scored from. Dirty niggling fkrs- Klich should’ve gone for the cynical foul in McGinn. Was impressed by Ramsey, Nakamba and McGinn in the middle and Mings and Konsa very solid at the back. Wasn’t pretty but they dug out the win. Credit to Deano for making some tough choices and getting it right. WFH Monday, but Tuesday will be nice to bump into the dirty Leeds weasel at work.
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For the number of times down the years that I've seen us concede early at home and then never look like getting an equalizer, I love it when we do that to someone else.
The correct changes in midfield followed-up by those selected justifying the shirt. The defence was also rock-solid.
If we'd secured two points from the last two games without Jack, I'd have been happy. So really pleased with three and also that the first half against from Leicester has finally precipitated the changes that had needed making for a few games prior to that.
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Old school away win.Elmo was also solid in snuffing out Raphinha. ::)
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So true about the tactics. In the reverse fixture, Dean was undone by one of the best tacticians around; today, he absolutely did a number on him. So impressive.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12231185/el-ghazis-early-strike-earns-elland-road-win
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Great Barr’s Dean Smith tactically out manoeuvres the, according to the media, worlds best coach Bielsa. Bit of credit for Smith here please.
Never really created anything 2nd half, but were completely comfortable, piece of piss really.
In the last 6 or 7 games, Mings has cut out trying to play and does what God used to do, boot it out of play when necessary. Man of the match for me, McGinn also worked hard without the ball.
I really dislike Leeds and have enjoyed this win as much as some of the ones with more dynamic attacking displays.
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Oh and keep Marv in please Dean. We seem to do alright when he plays. Turning into Makélélé "light".
Diet Claude
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Tonight could be one of those games where we take a big step forward to the big time again.
A lot of us have been crying out to refresh the midfield.
And we weren’t sure Dean & Co would do it.
But they did and the result was amazing.
We completely nullified Leeds. The team who often steamroll forward and create bags of openings.
Well done Dean & Co.
Special mentions for AEG and Nakamba and Targett and of course .....the best keeper in the world.
I think that my dream of ordering “A tray full of cold beers please “ - in a different language in September might still be on. UTFFAV
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Fantastic result. I really couldn't see Leeds scoring. I thought McGinn was superb, he didn't stop.
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Great tactics from Deano. Getting the early goal was crucial.
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Not impressed with that line up. Either one of El Ghazi or Traore, but not both. Piss weak midfield. Long evening ahead.
My pre match comment. I love being wrong.
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We have a hell of a bench with Grealish, Luiz and Barkley to be bought on...if needed.
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Thought Traore put in a real shift today. Covered a lot of ground and worked hard closing down.
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I straight up thought Raphina would tear Elmo one, Elmo didnt give him an inch.
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Glad to see we made their centre-forward look like the top, top second division striker he is, rather than last time's second coming of Gerd Müller. Brilliant display again from our 4 & 5.
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England Cricketers=Crap
England Egg Chasers=Crap
Aston Villa=Superb
Mings is looking a real England centre-half at the moment.
Well done Villa.
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Fucking over the moon. Hate Leeds.
Composed, structured and disciplined. Everyone did well.
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Glad to see we made their centre-forward look like the top, top second division striker he is, rather than last time's second coming of Gerd Müller. Brilliant display again from our 4 & 5.
If you are talking about Bamford I genuinely forgot he was on the pitch.
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Up the Villa! Fuck Bamford! Fuck your bucket! And fuck Leeds!
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Great performance, no weak links.
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"We all love watching Leedzzz..."
I certainly loved watching them this evening.
Watching them squirm.
Shitehouses.
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
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Brilliant win. Tactics superb, shape without ball was excellent, a lot more legs and bite in midfield. Of course, we will have better days in terms of keeping possession but compared to Leicester we were just so much better. One of Dean Smiths best days in charge of us, I've been quite critical lately but there were some very ballsy selection calls that worked out. But we clearly worked very hard in training on our shape during the week. It all paid dividends.
Elmo started very poorly but settled down. Traore only moan for me, thought he was dreadful to be honest. No idea how he lasted the 95 mins...
Martinez 7, Elmo 6, Konsa 8, Mings 8, Targett 7, Nakamba 7, McGinn 7, Ramsey 6, Traore 4, Watkins 6, AEG 8.5. Both our subs Sanson and Trez were lively, Sanson looks a classy footballer.
Luiz and Barkley now need to get the finger out big time to get back in.
Yes, I agree with that and have echoed some of it too. You're right about Bertie. He gave the ball away consistently and didn't offer a threat. Actually did some reasonable tracking but if anything he struggled with the ploughed field more than anybody.
That was a proper away win. The sort of win a top half side would have done to us in the past. Quality when it counted, excellent out of possession and huff and puff without substance in response.
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Thought Traore put in a real shift today. Covered a lot of ground and worked hard closing down.
Agree, although he had the wrong studs on!
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Nice to get over these lot, some big shifts put in there from Mings and Nakamba, special mention to Ramsey and Elmo, Konya just gets better every game.
According to the unwashed of Yorkshire the pitch was to blame.
Seven home defeats now for the best manager in the world.
Tramps.
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Nice to get over these lot, some big shifts put in there from Mings and Nakamba, special mention to Ramsey and Elmo, Konya just gets better every game.
According to the unwashed of Yorkshire the pitch was to blame.
Seven home defeats now for the best manager in the world.
Tramps.
The BCFC of Yorkshire.
Fetid 80s throwback fans.
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Nice to get over these lot, some big shifts put in there from Mings and Nakamba, special mention to Ramsey and Elmo, Konya just gets better every game.
According to the unwashed of Yorkshire the pitch was to blame.
Seven home defeats now for the best manager in the world.
Tramps.
You shouldn’t take the piss Jon.
He suffers from vertigo. ;)
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Aston Villa manager Dean Smith told BBC Sport: "Not many people would have fancied us against Leeds and they make you work hard. We got an early goal and showed lots of character.
"We've got the chance [to finish in the top six] but there are some top teams in there. We'll just take it game by game."
Leeds manager Marcelo Bielsa told BBC Sport: "We dominated 80% of the game and the goal they scored was opportunism. In the first half we created enough chances to score a goal but in the second half we couldn't finalise the attacks."
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Bielsaspeak for "Eramos una mierda."
Leeds boss Marcelo Bielsa, speaking to Match of the Day:
"We dominated 80% of game and defended well - the goal they scored was opportunism and the number 11 had a shot at goal and slipped and [Anwar] El Ghazi was coming from having struck the corner and he found the ball.
"In the first half we created enough chances to score a goal and they missed some chances and in the second half we defended better than in the first. But we attacked worse - we couldn't finalise the attacks.
" The crosses were not precise, the final passes weren't precise enough. It was a second half with sustained dominance throughout, more than the first half, it couldn't be translated into a goal."
Or : "We were shite."
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Brilliant result. Huge credit to Deano for the line up and game plan...and lovely to ram it up the gravy slurpers on their own cabbage patch.
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My favourite win of the season, well done lads
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Aston Villa manager Dean Smith told BBC Sport: "Not many people would have fancied us against Leeds and they make you work hard. We got an early goal and showed lots of character.
"We've got the chance [to finish in the top six] but there are some top teams in there. We'll just take it game by game."
Leeds manager Marcelo Bielsa told BBC Sport: "We dominated 80% of the game and the goal they scored was opportunism. In the first half we created enough chances to score a goal but in the second half we couldn't finalise the attacks."
“Dominated” - not really. You had a lot of possession, but produced very little.
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
I think that was our first win at Elland Road since Southgate scored the winner there way back when.
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Very professional performance.
Back 5 and Marvelous were superb.
McGinn and Ramsey ran their socks off. Sanson looked accomplished when he came on.
Watkins was his usual busy self and AEG was excellent.
Traore was the only slight disappointment for me today.
I'm still not a fan of man-buns.
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My favourite win of the season, well done lads
Oh yes 😆😆
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Great win that. Nobody likes Leeds. But I didn’t think we would get anything, shows what I know. Without Jack and Cash too.
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Get the fucking fuck in
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Great win , Mings just pipping Marvelous to MOTM.
I am too lazy to look it up ( and I'm pretty sure someone from this Parish will know ) , have Nakamba and Luiz ever played together in a league game for Villa ?
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Very professional performance.
Back 5 and Marvelous were superb.
McGinn and Ramsey ran their socks off. Sanson looked accomplished when he came on.
Watkins was his usual busy self and AEG was excellent.
Traore was the only slight disappointment for me today.
I'm still not a fan of man-buns.
Yes it was funny when ailing became Kate bush
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Love the fact that 5/6 different players been nominated on here as motm. Shows it was a proper team performance, thought the entire spine from Martinez through centre halves, Nakamba & Ramsey + tireless running of Watkins were excellent.
Particularly liked Watkins dragging that cheat to his feet....how many of their team have at various times this season blatantly dived or rolled around with no contact yet they’ll still whinge about Jack or claim the Argentinian Ian Holloway is the epitome of fair play coaching.
Really loved beating them & seeing Bamford crying to the ref at the final whistle was particularly sweet
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Normally bricking it when we are leading last 10 mins. But not tonight, never in doubt. All v calm and collected.
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I thought we were ok-ish with the ball but very good without it today.
I was worried about Elmo but he did pretty well, and although you can never be sure whilst it’s 1-0 and the game is in progress, Leeds didn’t pose much of a threat.
Well done to Anwar as well. He’s a decent player, and I know it sounds obvious, but he’s someone who really thrives on confidence and can struggle without it.
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Very professional performance.
Back 5 and Marvelous were superb.
McGinn and Ramsey ran their socks off. Sanson looked accomplished when he came on.
Watkins was his usual busy self and AEG was excellent.
Traore was the only slight disappointment for me today.
I'm still not a fan of man-buns.
Yes it was funny when ailing became Kate bush
More like one of the Hairy Bikers (or indeed Francis or Rick from Quo as the commentator pointed out).
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The comments page under the BBC match report is amusing. Villa are awful to watch apparently, anti-football and divers. Aw did we not roll over for super attractive Leeds?Diddums. And as for diving and play acting, I give you.... Llorente.
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Very professional performance.
Back 5 and Marvelous were superb.
McGinn and Ramsey ran their socks off. Sanson looked accomplished when he came on.
Watkins was his usual busy self and AEG was excellent.
Traore was the only slight disappointment for me today.
I'm still not a fan of man-buns.
This.
And ....
Targett was walking a fine line with his challenges; pumped up, or what?!
Martinez continues to amaze me with his composure.
Ramsey is a cool dude: keep it simple, and move into space. Alright!
We need to release Morgan soon -he looks ready to have a big game.
Trez beat opponents when he came on!
Fair play to Elmo for playing it just right.
Mings and Konza look formidable.
Oh, and: Leeds should be docked points for the state of that pitch - someone (along with Romeu) is going to get seriously hurt.
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I love that Tyrone has learned how to boot it into Row Z
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The comments page under the BBC match report is amusing. Villa are awful to watch apparently, anti-football and divers. Aw did we not roll over for super attractive Leeds?Diddums. And as for diving and play acting, I give you.... Llorente.
Same on the Grauniad. Sometimes, top teams win dirty.
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
I think that was our first win at Elland Road since Southgate scored the winner there way back when.
It was. The commentator referenced that game in his commentary.
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brilliant win -I hate Leeds
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
Konsa this season has been ace. You don’t mostly notice him. And that’s because he just deals with stuff and just clears up - no fuss . A great reader of the game. I think him and Targett this season have been a rock.
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That was a tremendous performance, well done lads. I thought it might be a long evening when they got a shot off in the first minute, but other than that one in the last minute, don't think they really troubled us at all.
And I always take great enjoyment from Little Lord Fauntleroy Bamford drawing a blank
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brilliant win -I hate Leeds
And Leeds and Leeds ...
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This beer tastes very, very nice after that game.
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Yes it was funny when ailing became Kate bush
Withering Whites?
Happy my good feeling about this game proved correct and that Dean shook things up. We've now got a few more options and a good opportunity to move up the table over the next few games.
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Brilliant result, well done to the team, and especially well done to Dean Smith, who by all accounts outthought Bielsa. Cracking stuff.
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10pts off 2nd place, with a game in hand and 14 left to play. 6pts off 4th with 2 games in hand.
This season may or may not work out, but as far as "transitional" seasons go it's a good 'un. Nice to be in the position we are at this stage of the season.
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Excellent performance, nobody has kept Dirty Leeds that quiet all season.
Only downside is that we're not able to keep the ball well enough when we get it.
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I am too lazy to look it up ( and I'm pretty sure someone from this Parish will know ) , have Nakamba and Luiz ever played together in a league game for Villa ?
Pretty sure they did at a long forgotten horror show at Wolves last season...
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Yes it was funny when ailing became Kate bush
Withering Whites?
Happy my good feeling about this game proved correct and that Dean shook things up. We've now got a few more options and a good opportunity to move up the table over the next few games.
wittering whites
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Am I a wrong un for taking as much joy from seeing Bamford whine at the end as I was happy we won!!
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
I think that was our first win at Elland Road since Southgate scored the winner there way back when.
It was. The commentator referenced that game in his commentary.
Christmas 2000 - Southgate and then Boateng scored the second before Leeds scored. I think Southgate scored both the previous season.
I was a bit surprised when they said that they haven’t done the double over us since 1976.
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The funny thing is that, if I had one criticism, it's that we remain a bit naive about the cynical fouls. There was a moment towards the end where McGinn was fouled on the right wing as he looked to break clear, and he spent the next three minutes complaining about it, like he was genuinely shocked that anyone would be so unsporting.
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What a recovery that Leeds player made when Ollie helped him up. Truly miraculous.
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
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Yes it was funny when ailing became Kate bush
haha, you got the bush bit right...hair so long it reminded me of 70's porno.
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Very good defensive performance, because it wasn't backs to the wall, it was keeping them at arm's length fairly comfortably. Nobody had a bad game, and the only slight moan I have is that I wish we'd keep the ball better at times. And finally, when El Ghazi is on it, he's really fun to watch.
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
I think that was our first win at Elland Road since Southgate scored the winner there way back when.
It was. The commentator referenced that game in his commentary.
Christmas 2000 - Southgate and then Boateng scored the second before Leeds scored. I think Southgate scored both the previous season.
I was a bit surprised when they said that they haven’t done the double over us since 1976.
Jesus, I was at that game, I remember Boatengs break away goal and seeing the Leeds ground from the motor way. That is all.
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Very professional performance.
Back 5 and Marvelous were superb.
McGinn and Ramsey ran their socks off. Sanson looked accomplished when he came on.
Watkins was his usual busy self and AEG was excellent.
Traore was the only slight disappointment for me today.
I'm still not a fan of man-buns.
Yes it was funny when ailing became Kate bush
Ha! Good description.
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If, exactly 12 months ago, someone said to you that 12 months later we’d be 1 point behind Liverpool with a game in hand, last game day in Feb you’d probably be sectioned.
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If, exactly 12 months ago, someone said to you that 12 months later we’d be 1 point behind Liverpool with a game in hand, last game day in Feb you’d probably be sectioned.
...having already twatted them 7-2 😃
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
I think that was our first win at Elland Road since Southgate scored the winner there way back when.
It was. The commentator referenced that game in his commentary.
Christmas 2000 - Southgate and then Boateng scored the second before Leeds scored. I think Southgate scored both the previous season.
I was a bit surprised when they said that they haven’t done the double over us since 1976.
Jesus, I was at that game, I remember Boatengs break away goal and seeing the Leeds ground from the motor way. That is all.
Robbie Keane's overhyped and utterly futile debut for them, that was. It would take him years to redeem himself.
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Beyond my wildest dreams for today - UTV
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Martinez 7.5
Brilliant. Justa super solid keeper who battled on with a groin injury. Emi martinezzz the best goalie, Week to week! Made sure thou shall not pass with amazing reaction to Roberts chance. Which was a great stop. And on Leeds set plays takes the ball out of the air easy as!
Hardly called upon for anything major but super goalie.
Elmo 7.5 Wonderful.
Did what he had to do and is a credit to professional football. Dealt with Leeds best player and completely dependable. Showed all his nous. Love this guy. I refuse to mark him down for time wasting and booking. Team player!
Konsa 8
Back to his solid showing he has been most season today. Matching Mings who has been the better for me in recent games. Well played Konsa-class.
Mings 8-
Superb marshaling of defence. Owned Bamford and cleared everything in air distributing could be better but effortless as a defender and captain today. Continues to be impressive in his defending and reading of game. I always watch with no added sound and its fascinating and super to hear him and his passion. Don't know a louder or more truer voice as a defender in English football. Those who watch without artifical sound getting the added thrill
Targett 7.
Range of brilliant tackles and reading play takes up his positions so much better Unfortunately was booked so marks down for that and maybe could have been sent off. Solid and played well.
Nakamba 7.5
Yes.played role superbly with interceptions and good discipline though in second half made a few stray and loose passes the worse aspect of his game. Excellent effort fully merited his inclusion
McGinn 7
Solid and played role well in assisting Elmo and covering for Traroe/doing BT work in shacking Raphina. Showed good energy and sense on the ball and in his position on right of 3 man midfield
Ramsey 7.5-
such a composed player and showed quality. Faded second half but brilliant shift and looked more than capable in midfield. Well played JJ!
AEG 8.5 man on fire.
What a well taken goal. What a menace he is . When he plays in attacking actions and shooting he's Ronaldo-esqe stepped up in Grealish absence more than anyone in attack and fully applaud his contribution. Well played! First half he could have a hat trick. And he was tracking back and shown up tactically very well. Sweet revenge indeed for that ridiculous Red card last time at Leeds.
Traore 6 -
Engima. Possibly his worst performance showed only glimpses. Sky gave him the big build up but didn't deliver and twice loose with ball could have cost us with the counter attack against us but others saved him. Cut inside with little impact than usual. Today was a sorry performance. Struggle to get into match. Pitch didn't help. Noticed he was even placed up front in the 3 after switching flanks as tactics to have him more involved.
Sum up was when he fell over trying to play ball out wide and gave away hand ball in the midst of a very promising attack just outside the penalty area. Oh well. He can do better next time.
Watkins 7.
Endevaour had a struggle at times but works tireless only one real opportunity to score but was a brilliant team player and outlet with movement and created the goal. Tbh felt he was a little jaded and mainly an excellent showing but was up against it and seemed slightly off nothing major bit could do with some managing of minutes for Ollie. Well played again . Great signing. And always kept opposition defence occupied
Subs
Trezeguet 6.5
Sanson 6. 5
First half 8/10.
Second half 7.5/10
Dean Smith 8.5/10
Exactly the right team selection!
Though I feel Traroe should have been hooked as he was the weakest of the players today.
Elland Road pitch in parts was really poor surface which impacted things. Constantly players slipping!
Southgate there to watch and impressive showings from Villa players
Wonderful Deano!
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What a MAGNIFICENT Performance from the lads.
I was dreading this game a bit as they battered us at VP combined with the shit show against the foxes and Deanos persisting with the Barclay-McGinn-Luiz midfield.
Young kid Ramsey played very well.
Another clean sheet - defence and goalie kept them at bay constantly.
12th win of the season- Europe in sight
Link up between AEG and Oliie excellent
Bertie can’t be shrugged off the ball
Revenge for VP
Targett - nice to have a hard bastard to stick it to them, refused to give them an inch
Deano for finally changing them and coming up with a great gameplan
No Jack or cash and we coped with it - good depth
Another away win at a difficult ground
Pitch was abysmal
I’m now on a high the whole weekend!!!!
Can’t fault a single player who all contributed
Future looks bright with Wes, Cash, Jack and Samson all to come in at some point.
Hate Leeds.
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Aston Villa manager Dean Smith told BBC Sport: "Not many people would have fancied us against Leeds and they make you work hard. We got an early goal and showed lots of character.
"We've got the chance [to finish in the top six] but there are some top teams in there. We'll just take it game by game."
Leeds manager Marcelo Bielsa told BBC Sport: "We dominated 80% of the game and the goal they scored was opportunism. In the first half we created enough chances to score a goal but in the second half we couldn't finalise the attacks."
“Dominated” - not really. You had a lot of possession, but produced very little.
They were arsenal, but with more energy. As someone earlier alluded to, we could've played til midnight and they wouldn't have scored. We made them look quite weak. Been a while since a Villa side's done that a few times over a season.
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Tyrone Mings, my Lord.....
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This may sound controversial but I think if Jack played tonight we might not have got the win. The way we set up tonight was to contain them and stop their slick pass and move game. With Jack there our mindset would have been different, more attack minded leaving space and holes for them to exploit. Jack obviously plays once fit but I like the energy and effort of that midfield. With the return of Jack Berti would have to drop down I think.
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In the pre-match thread in the week I was getting a bit pissed off with our lot buying into the Leeds media wankfest and went for a battling 1-0 Villa win just to be defiant. Just sayin'. But seriously we should recognize just what a fucking brilliant season we are having after years of struggle. Well done to Dean, his backroom staff and the players. Fucking brilliant effort from all of them.
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A great defensive display. Especially good bearing in mind we appeared to be up against a renamed and peak, Mexico '70 Jairzinho who is now called Raphinha.
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We wrecked the game. Superb tactics.
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A great defensive display. Especially good bearing in mind we appeared to be up against a renamed and peak, Mexico '70 Jairzinho who is now called Raphinha.
He looked decent, apart from the fact he had his socks up way above the knees and seemed to have sellotaped the inside of his shorts up too.
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Earlier I watched the Man city - West Ham game, once Man city went ahead they didn't give a toss what West Ham did, until they scored. Then Man City went for another goal, got it and went back to not giving a toss to what West ham did. We did exactly the same tonight, scored and let them do what they wanted, with us stepping in whenever something became mildly threatening. Excellent game-plan that shows we are not a Jack team and can do what is necessary when required. What a difference from last season (and last Leeds match).
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This may sound controversial but I think if Jack played tonight we might not have got the win. The way we set up tonight was to contain them and stop their slick pass and move game. With Jack there our mindset would have been different, more attack minded leaving space and holes for them to exploit. Jack obviously plays once fit but I like the energy and effort of that midfield. With the return of Jack Berti would have to drop down I think.
Jack is possibly the best player in the division at keeping the ball. He would certainly have given us a counter attacking threat in that second half. Unfortunately for AEG, he hasnt impressed on the right wing at this level. So will be interesting as to what the selection is midweek if Jack is back. I wouldn't be against McGinn playing in Traores position either.
I liked our flat midfield three tonight. Ramsey and McGinn pressed well at times but also kept a good shape. Our CBs were well covered which hasn't been the case for a number of weeks.
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Also, 39pts now. I'm going to go out on a limb here and call it John King / CNN style, and say Aston Villa will not be relegated this season.
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The comments page under the BBC match report is amusing. Villa are awful to watch apparently, anti-football and divers. Aw did we not roll over for super attractive Leeds?Diddums. And as for diving and play acting, I give you.... Llorente.
To be fair, a lot of the comments on Marching On Together gave grudging acceptance that our tactics and shape worked, they also called out Llorente for the rolling round. All in all a good days work, safe from relegation, onward and upward to Europe
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A great defensive display. Especially good bearing in mind we appeared to be up against a renamed and peak, Mexico '70 Jairzinho who is now called Raphinha.
He looked decent, apart from the fact he had his socks up way above the knees and seemed to have sellotaped the inside of his shorts up too.
More a comment on the commentary than the player. Raphinha does look to be a decent player but the way Ssky were hyping him was excruciating.
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I think Leeds were easily the worst team we have played for at least s8 games.
Because we didn’t let them play.
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
Can Sky get any further up Bielsa's bucket? Apart from that one chance towards the end, I can't remember Leeds looking like scoring.
And I don't want to hear any more belly aching from Leeds fans about us diving after some of their theatrics tonight. Wankers.
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
It’s the law that commentators can’t point out anything negative about Leeds whilst worshipping at the feet of St Bielsa...
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
Can Sky get any further up Bielsa's bucket? Apart from that one chance towards the end, I can't remember Leeds looking like scoring.
And I don't want to hear any more belly aching from Leeds fans about us diving after some of their theatrics tonight. Wankers.
The save by Martinez in the first half.
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
Yep. Also, at one point Konsa brilliantly controlled the ball and brought it out of defence under pressure, in a way that would have impressed Beckenbauer. The commentators said something along the lines of how "it bounced for him". They also said Targett dived when you could clearly see he had already lost his footing, slipping on their allotment "football pitch".
Twats.
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
I think that was our first win at Elland Road since Southgate scored the winner there way back when.
It was. The commentator referenced that game in his commentary.
Christmas 2000 - Southgate and then Boateng scored the second before Leeds scored. I think Southgate scored both the previous season.
I was a bit surprised when they said that they haven’t done the double over us since 1976.
I was at both those games in the 1975/76 season. The away game on the Saturday before Christmas was pretty hairy. Very few Villa fans there and I was harangued by a Leeds fan all afternoon. I think the only reason I wasn't beaten up by him was that I was just a skinny teenager and he was a 30-something big fat Yorkshire pudding!
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
It’s the law that commentators can’t point out anything negative about Leeds whilst worshipping at the feet of St Bielsa...
As soon as he facks awf they'll go back to being irrelevant.
Little was said about them on a national level when they had Redfearn and the other non entities managing them.
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
It’s the law that commentators can’t point out anything negative about Leeds whilst worshipping at the feet of St Bielsa...
As soon as he facks awf they'll go back to being irrelevant.
Little was said about them on a national level when they had Redfearn and the other non entities managing them.
If he’s as bright as they make him out to be he will exit there in the summer, like Sheff U this year you lose the surprise / complacency element in season 2 & the fact is Raphinha/Phillips aside there is not a lot of class in that side
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This may sound controversial but I think if Jack played tonight we might not have got the win. The way we set up tonight was to contain them and stop their slick pass and move game. With Jack there our mindset would have been different, more attack minded leaving space and holes for them to exploit. Jack obviously plays once fit but I like the energy and effort of that midfield. With the return of Jack Berti would have to drop down I think.
Agree with this. But I would still love it when he picked the ball up on the edge of our area, beat 5, chose to shoot rather than pick an easier pass, after leaving 3 Leeds defenders breakdancing. Then hit the keeper.
That must cause Deano more headaches than Jose will ever have migraines
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
It’s the law that commentators can’t point out anything negative about Leeds whilst worshipping at the feet of St Bielsa...
As soon as he facks awf they'll go back to being irrelevant.
Little was said about them on a national level when they had Redfearn and the other non entities managing them.
If he’s as bright as they make him out to be he will exit there in the summer, like Sheff U this year you lose the surprise / complacency element in season 2 & the fact is Raphinha/Phillips aside there is not a lot of class in that side
I think Ayling is a very good player. The point is that he has turned a championship team into a side giving most PL teams a game with limited funds.
I don’t like Leeds but do not understand why It is necessary to slag off Bielsa.
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Bielsa is ace. Leeds are dirty. He can do better.
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10pts off 2nd place, with a game in hand and 14 left to play. 6pts off 4th with 2 games in hand.
This season may or may not work out, but as far as "transitional" seasons go it's a good 'un. Nice to be in the position we are at this stage of the season.
You are such a negative bugger. Why have you ignored our chances of toppling mancity?
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That pitch is also terrible. I'm surprised a Premier League club have a pitch in such a state even though it has just been re-laid.
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
It’s the law that commentators can’t point out anything negative about Leeds whilst worshipping at the feet of St Bielsa...
As soon as he facks awf they'll go back to being irrelevant.
Little was said about them on a national level when they had Redfearn and the other non entities managing them.
Back to being irrelevant? They’ve been absent from top flight football for 16 years.
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
It’s the law that commentators can’t point out anything negative about Leeds whilst worshipping at the feet of St Bielsa...
As soon as he facks awf they'll go back to being irrelevant.
Little was said about them on a national level when they had Redfearn and the other non entities managing them.
If he’s as bright as they make him out to be he will exit there in the summer, like Sheff U this year you lose the surprise / complacency element in season 2 & the fact is Raphinha/Phillips aside there is not a lot of class in that side
I think Ayling is a very good player. The point is that he has turned a championship team into a side giving most PL teams a game with limited funds.
I don’t like Leeds but do not understand why It is necessary to slag off Bielsa.
It’s not slagging him it mocking the ridiculous hype & fawning around him which he doesn’t court I’m sure - he has done well (like Nuno, Wilder & even bloody George Burley before him) & tonight aside they have been great to watch but they are nothing special
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What a recovery that Leeds player made when Ollie helped him up. Truly miraculous.
St.Watkins the great healer.
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he was there to watch Konsa
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Also, 39pts now. I'm going to go out on a limb here and call it John King / CNN style, and say Aston Villa will not be relegated this season.
Careful now big Sam has won two games so we may need 50 points.
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Great to beat this bastards and good to see us looking strong. Nakamba, Mings & Martinez quality.
El Ghazi thinks he’s Ronaldo after a tap in
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he was there to watch Konsa
He was there to watch Mason Mount
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Leeds fans are apparently very pissed off and feel cheated by a boring, negative team. It’s the icing on the cake.
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Revenge is a dish best served cold. Delighted for Anwar tonight, just a shame 3,000 fans weren't there to sing his name loud and proud.
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I’d much rather win ugly away at Leeds 0-1 rather than smash them off the park 0-5 😎
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Is this the first time we have recorded 12 wins in the top flight since 2010/11?
Which is shite, in it's own way, obv that we've had to wait so long. But a clear sign of progress that we've done it so early this time.
That was good enough for 9th that year. Don't think we'll see that play out this season.
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Leeds fans are apparently very pissed off and feel cheated by a boring, negative team. It’s the icing on the cake.
Which team are they pissed off with? The one in white had the creativity of a 2 year olds crayon drawing struck on the fridge
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Sixth one nil win of the season.
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Mings and Konsa were superb and Southgate was there watching, they didn't do themselves any harm at all. Nice goal from El Ghazi, great ball from Watkins. Not a single player had a poor game, although our passing wasn't as crisp, which is odd, given we played on a potato field. Great to see Dean shake it up a bit and he was rewarded with all of the midfield putting in a real shift. Ramsay is going to be a very good player. Chuffed with this as it gets us looking up the table rather than down at those who are just behind us. Seventh away win of the season, is that the 13th clean sheet? Impressive stuff.
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The commentators were annoying me by harping on about Targett being lucky to stay on, while ignoring the fact that Klich was even luckier.
Yep. Also, at one point Konsa brilliantly controlled the ball and brought it out of defence under pressure, in a way that would have impressed Beckenbauer. The commentators said something along the lines of how "it bounced for him". They also said Targett dived when you could clearly see he had already lost his footing, slipping on their allotment "football pitch".
Twats.
That was Bobby Mooresque by Konsa.
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Fuck off Leeds
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Fuck off Leeds
This
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Grealish was shit again today. Heard his name so many times but just no end product.
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This may sound controversial but I think if Jack played tonight we might not have got the win. The way we set up tonight was to contain them and stop their slick pass and move game. With Jack there our mindset would have been different, more attack minded leaving space and holes for them to exploit. Jack obviously plays once fit but I like the energy and effort of that midfield. With the return of Jack Berti would have to drop down I think.
Nurse...
Jack is the first player on our the team sheet.
Dean changed the midfield today and it paid dividend. They stopped Leeds.
Swop Bert for Jack and we would have won more comfortably.
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Bielsa is ace. Leeds are dirty. He can do better.
I agree about Bielsa. I've never liked Leeds but he's something else. I can't think of many managers that could have taken that Leeds team up from mid table (with the players/resources that he's had) to where they are now (10th in the League). Possibly Klopp? The job he's done is pretty amazing.
Equally I think the job DS is doing is pretty amazing too.
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Fuck off Leeds
A most excellent summary of the day's events.
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Man Buns & Buckets 0....us 1......next
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This may sound controversial but I think if Jack played tonight we might not have got the win. The way we set up tonight was to contain them and stop their slick pass and move game. With Jack there our mindset would have been different, more attack minded leaving space and holes for them to exploit. Jack obviously plays once fit but I like the energy and effort of that midfield. With the return of Jack Berti would have to drop down I think.
Nurse...
Jack is the first player on our the team sheet.
Dean changed the midfield today and it paid dividend. They stopped Leeds.
Swop Bert for Jack and we would have won more comfortably.
Nurse what?
Jack plays and we might win more comfortably we don’t know. He plays and our mindset would have been different that’s for sure. Of course he plays every game if available because we are a much better team with him on the pitch in an attacking sense. Defensively we are not. That’s what is so pleasing about tonight..we have a plan B. Get a lead and grind out a win by nullifying a very capable opponent.
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Bielsa is ace. Leeds are dirty. He can do better.
I agree about Bielsa. I've never liked Leeds but he's something else. I can't think of many managers that could have taken that Leeds team up from mid table (with the players/resources that he's had) to where they are now (10th in the League). Possibly Klopp? The job he's done is pretty amazing.
Equally I think the job DS is doing is pretty amazing too.
Bielsa is great.
He's done an amazing job with Leeds, and he's an intriguing character (sitting on a bucket, refusing to speak English, getting his team playing so well).
Leeds are ******, though, always have been and always will be.
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Today was a really enjoyable win and one which showed off what a solid defence we have on their day which is backed up by Martinez who has totally changed us as a defensive unit. He is bloody awesome. The swashbuckling style from previous games may have temporarily disappeared but other aspects of the team have shone through. We beat a good team today and our game plan seemed to work a treat. We shackled them. I've heard that they are carping on about our tactics and calling us cheats which is a joke surely? They are masters at the dark arts but their fans seem to have a great big blind spot to that. But at the end of the day who cares? Fuck em. We won fair and square and without doubt we are still heading in the right direction. Upwards.
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I'm still purring over Konsa's little shimmy in the box with about 15 mins to go. Wins the ball, drifts between the attackers and plays the pass like it's no big deal. Was like watching McGrath in his prime.
And he did it all in front of Southgate. There is no way he wasn't impressed.
I think that was our first win at Elland Road since Southgate scored the winner there way back when.
It was. The commentator referenced that game in his commentary.
Christmas 2000 - Southgate and then Boateng scored the second before Leeds scored. I think Southgate scored both the previous season.
I was a bit surprised when they said that they haven’t done the double over us since 1976.
Remember those two games well. The consecutive away wins at Elland Road with Southgate scoring. And, one of our starters today, Jacob Ramsey wasn't even born when they happened.
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Purposely forgot we were playing. Fuck dirty dirty Leeds.
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This may sound controversial but I think if Jack played tonight we might not have got the win. The way we set up tonight was to contain them and stop their slick pass and move game. With Jack there our mindset would have been different, more attack minded leaving space and holes for them to exploit. Jack obviously plays once fit but I like the energy and effort of that midfield. With the return of Jack Berti would have to drop down I think.
Nurse...
Jack is the first player on our the team sheet.
Dean changed the midfield today and it paid dividend. They stopped Leeds.
Swop Bert for Jack and we would have won more comfortably.
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We could lose our last 14 games and still be safe. Imagine that at the beginning of the season.
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Great win, but still do not see the point of Traore. He is a liability. We desperately need some quality wingers in the next window, I think.
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Seen that Pulisic may be available in the summer.
There's a fair chance that CL clubs across Europe will be first in the queue should that come to pass.
But that would be the calibre of winger who could push us on further.
Other clubs in Europe without the big TV deals might not be able to punch their weight in the immediate future as well.
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If Bielsa was that great he’d have taken on a team languishing in mid table half way through the season, won ten straight and got them promoted first time.
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Great win, but still do not see the point of Traore. He is a liability. We desperately need some quality wingers in the next window, I think.
He was poor tonight but he's scored and created plenty.
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Traore is a wonderful player. He has grace.
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Pre-outbreak at the club I was describing us with words I had never really associated with a Villa team before, ie. looking like one of the most physically fit and prepared teams in the division but since the outbreak our energy levels had been noticeably different. This game looks like that pressing energy is back. Hopefully, that means the high-performance staff have been able to increase training loads again without risks to player safety and that the team is clear of post-covid risks like endocarditis.
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Is this the first time we have recorded 12 wins in the top flight since 2010/11?
Which is shite, in it's own way, obv that we've had to wait so long. But a clear sign of progress that we've done it so early this time.
That was good enough for 9th that year. Don't think we'll see that play out this season.
More wins than Liverpool, and they have played more than us.
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Great win, but still do not see the point of Traore. He is a liability. We desperately need some quality wingers in the next window, I think.
Opinions and arseholes and all that but i really like him. I thought he was a handful for Leeds and he put a shift in. I don't think he suits every game and he can go missing sometimes but overall i think he's quality. Reminds me of Chris Waddle only with dreadlocks instead of a mullett.
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Is this the first time we have recorded 12 wins in the top flight since 2010/11?
Which is shite, in it's own way, obv that we've had to wait so long. But a clear sign of progress that we've done it so early this time.
That was good enough for 9th that year. Don't think we'll see that play out this season.
More wins than Liverpool, and they have played more than us.
Imagine being told at the start of the season that after 25 games we'd have won more than Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool...and possibly Chelsea
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Traore is a wonderful player. He has grace.
Perfectly put
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Traore is a wonderful player. He has grace.
Perfectly put
Agreed
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Traore was having more trouble with the pitch than anybody else. You could see the doubt creeping in to Raphinha's mind eventually as he tried to second-guess it, electing to play little layoffs rather than trying to beat the man, and he's played on it before.
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Deano admitted after the previous Leeds match he got the tactics wrong. This time, it was spot on. Well done Deano. Fantastic win.
It is very pleasing that every player in our squad, when called upon, has put in a shift. Great man management. No sulking, just get on with the job.
All deserve praise but a special mention reserved for Mings. Back to his brilliant best. :)
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Just watched the death throes of Bamford about 8 times on a Villa Facebook page, his recovery from near death is quite miraculous, sums Leeds up for me, shithouses to a man bun.
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Llorentes instant recovery was the best yet their on Leeds fans on our pages including the Villa View claiming we are horrible diving cheats. It’s hilarious.
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Llorentes instant recovery was the best yet their on Leeds fans on our pages including the Villa View claiming we are horrible diving cheats. It’s hilarious.
It’s full on Qanon batshit levels with these twats, they’re the rags with a few trophies, everyone is out to get them despite them being pure as the driven snow, and everyone is supposed to recognise their majesty despite them routinely spending decades away from the main action.
Truth is, the minute bucket man leaves, they’ll sink like a stone.
And their pitch, fuck me, it’s appropriate in a way as it’s worthy of that shithole of a stadium it’s located in.
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Dean Smith set us up perfectly. We pressed them high in the first half, and got our goal. We went 4-3-3 with the ball, and dropped back to 4-5-1 when we didn't have the ball to stop them playing through us.
Second half we sat deeper and gave up possession in order to keep our shape, as we knew their fitness levels would test us. Each player put a shift in, and we got what we deserved. Well done to Dean and the coaching staff.
Bielsa and his hanging ball bag were second best. UTV
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Traore is a wonderful player. He has grace.
Like Jacquie Onassis.
He usually presses about as much as her, mind, but yesterday I thought he worked hard and effectively.
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Watkins has healing hands.
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Excellent performance, nobody has kept Dirty Leeds that quiet all season.
Only downside is that we're not able to keep the ball well enough when we get it.
Yes, our ball retention was absolutely woeful. I thought everybody would be going mad about it on here, but people often judge performances by results. We defended brilliantly but were terrible when we had the ball. And I’m no goldie.
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Trezeguet did well when he was on just dribbling up the pitch getting it away from our box, in injury time I thought he’d been dispossessed at least three times but he still managed to get past the Leeds challenges and towards the corner flag.
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Great tactics from Dean yesterday as he intimated in his post match, press high to create the opps in the first half, low block defending second half (park the bus if you like) with minimal possession to snuff out their attacking threat.
Other thoughts....
Has Bamford got out of Konsas pocket yet? Raphina had to swap sides as he got nowt out of Elmo. They should be fined for that pitch or at least get their money back from the charlatan who sold them it. Thoughts and prayers to Lorente at this difficult time.
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The state of leeds fans in the guardian comments section. They're a unique bunch alright, really showing themselves up.
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The state of leeds fans in the guardian comments section. They're a unique bunch alright, really showing themselves up.
Yeah the BBC comments is the same.
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Excellent performance, nobody has kept Dirty Leeds that quiet all season.
Only downside is that we're not able to keep the ball well enough when we get it.
Yes, our ball retention was absolutely woeful. I thought everybody would be going mad about it on here, but people often judge performances by results. We defended brilliantly but were terrible when we had the ball. And I’m no goldie.
You are right but I guess that the boys are getting some leeway because we kept a very dangerous Leeds team quiet. We do need to control games more and have sustained periods of possession but yesterday was one of those days where we had to grind it out.
If we are saying the same thing after the Sheff Utd game when they are bound for the Championship, confidence is shot and they have multiple injuries then that would be a different matter.
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And their pitch, fuck me, it’s appropriate in a way as it’s worthy of that shithole of a stadium it’s located in.
Their ground did look very dilapidated on MOTD. Aside from the East Stand it looks like something out of The Championship or upper League One.
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And their pitch, fuck me, it’s appropriate in a way as it’s worthy of that shithole of a stadium it’s located in.
Their ground did look very dilapidated on MOTD. Aside from the East Stand it looks like something out of The Championship or upper League One.
Which is what it will be within a couple of years.
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
it always reminds me of The Trillion Trophy Stadium.
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we've been beyond bad at times over the past ten years but the ground has always looked good - Elland Road's a hovel.
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What are the corporate facilities like? Didn't a H&V high-flyer (Risso maybe?) experience them recently?
I like the fact that neither of these teams "do" draws so anyone who predicted that is a silly billy.
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On the pitch....as we have no fans in surely it would be safer (sure Southampton would concur!) to move their home games to a stadium with a fit for purpose pitch??
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
it always reminds me of The Trillion Trophy Stadium.
The only difference being Leeds will be able to use all four stands when fans return.
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Sad news about Peter Lorimer. Even couched in the language of "battling a long term illness", the fact that he is in a hospice doesn't sound optimistic.
As someone childhood was in the 60s and 70s, it is inevitable that those first footballers that entered my consciousness are now reaching the end of their lives. However, the last twelve months seem to have been quite disproportionate on that Leeds team.
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Which is what it will be within a couple of years.
We can only admire a club that has its future properly protected.
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It’s not often something that’s positively commented on, but I thought the ref was really good yesterday.
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Fuck off Leeds
Rory this is your best post ever.
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Fuck off Leeds
Rory this is your best post ever.
Thanks, it took me ages!
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It’s not often something that’s positively commented on, but I thought the ref was really good yesterday.
I thought both Targett and Klich were lucky to stay on the pitch, but apart from that I agree.
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
it always reminds me of The Trillion Trophy Stadium.
The only difference being Leeds will be able to use all four stands when fans return.
why is that ?
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They can only use two stands at the moment.
Apologies for the Daily Mirror link....
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/birmingham-city-face-paying-1million-23579084
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It’s not often something that’s positively commented on, but I thought the ref was really good yesterday.
He might need a new whistle as the one he used last night must be worn out. He didn’t get much wrong though and a difficult one for him with the state of that pitch.
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They can only use two stands at the moment.
Apologies for the Daily Mirror link....
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/birmingham-city-face-paying-1million-23579084
Cheers, Where will the Jealous guys go next?
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They can only use two stands at the moment.
Apologies for the Daily Mirror link....
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/birmingham-city-face-paying-1million-23579084
Cheers, Where will the Jealous guys go next?
A ground share with Solihull Moors??? And Coventry too. Has any ground have 3 teams sharing it at any one time, I wonder?
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
I'm not sure what's the more embarrassing for them, Bellend Road or Leeds-Bradford Airport which is, by a fucking mile, the worst airport I've ever been to.
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
I'm not sure what's the more embarrassing for them, Bellend Road or Leeds-Bradford Airport which is, by a fucking mile, the worst airport I've ever been to.
As a complete aside, doesn't Leeds-Bradford have the shortest runway of any of the main airports in the country?
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Probably the best start to a match since Burnley and an very well taken goal by the Dutch master. Ball retention 2nd half was very poor and decent crosses into their box were virtually non existent, I would expect a big improvement in that area on Wednesday.
However yesterday was a defensive master class, we totally nullified any threats Leeds had and this was against one of the best attacking sides in the league. Apart from Man City, we've got as good a defence as any one in the league, Martinez, Konsa and Mings all brilliant yesterday and a special mention has to go to Marvelous, he's got a great attitude, despite hardly playing this season, always has a smile on his face, after his display yesterday must surely start on Wednesday.
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Ball retention and being able to kill games off are areas where we can improve but after last season, just being able to grind out a 1-0 win is great stuff. Especially after a bit of a drop-off in form and just needing to get back to winning ways.
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I don’t like Leeds and some of their fans comments are just delusional and bitter. However, I have nothing against Beilsa and he’s done a good job there. Saying that the media hype is well OTT. Has Beilsa in getting Leeds up and to mid table in their first year back (so far) done any better that Chris Wilder last year and the year before?
I also thought Beilsa was fairly ungratcious in defeat.
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Wow. Salty bastards.
https://twitter.com/avbiIly/status/1365992864514256898?s=19
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'Our legal team'. Calm down Bezos.
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Wow. Salty bastards.
https://twitter.com/avbiIly/status/1365992864514256898?s=19
Ha ha if we are talking chewing a wasp ,Bielsa has been doing an all you can eat at a bee hive 🤔
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'Our legal team'. Calm down Bezos.
"Hello, this is Horsforth Ambulance Chasers 4 U, Where's There's Blame There's a Claim. How can I help?"
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Totally normal fanbase.
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From what I can gather, the hostility is born of the incident where they acted like shithouses and their manager put it right to his credit, it a game that was the definition of a dead rubber after they'd done another Devon Loch impression and we'd sealed the play off spot.
I feel though that they're actually more bothered that we sailed off in 'their' place after they once again committed suicide in one of the single most enjoyable games I've watched that don't involve my team. They've projected all of that pain onto us like we're to blame somehow. And they're a bunch of twats at the best of times, so here we are.
It's great though, can't believe we've got back to being hated for no real reason than being better, so soon. More of this please.
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They still seem incredibly bitter about that 1-1 game even though:
(i) it was a completely meaningless game
(ii) the only team that was wronged in any way was Villa, courtesy of Bamford's disgraceful dive
Another weird fanbase. File alongside Wolves, but with a less impressive history.
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
I'm not sure what's the more embarrassing for them, Bellend Road or Leeds-Bradford Airport which is, by a fucking mile, the worst airport I've ever been to.
As a complete aside, doesn't Leeds-Bradford have the shortest runway of any of the main airports in the country?
Worst airport for me was Moscow in the 1980s, about an 8 hour wait for a connection.
Most unusual must be Barra in the Western Isles of Scotland. Planes land on the beach when the tides out.
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https://twitter.com/sirboblichfield/status/1365832044698296325?s=21
Images of the Watkins/Llorente miracle has surfaced.
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
I'm not sure what's the more embarrassing for them, Bellend Road or Leeds-Bradford Airport which is, by a fucking mile, the worst airport I've ever been to.
Ouch! That's scathing but pretty accurate
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
I'm not sure what's the more embarrassing for them, Bellend Road or Leeds-Bradford Airport which is, by a fucking mile, the worst airport I've ever been to.
As a erstwhile regular user of LBA, it has its advantages; although, admitedly, its recent efforts to expand and upgrade have been atrocious.
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
I'm not sure what's the more embarrassing for them, Bellend Road or Leeds-Bradford Airport which is, by a fucking mile, the worst airport I've ever been to.
Ouch! That's scathing but pretty accurate
Love the reference to Bellend Road. I was born I'm Yorkshire and supported Halifax Town and hated the Leeds tossers with a passion. Leeds had a great team but even then their fans were twats.
As an aside my first visit to Villa Park was a Halifax supporter in the 1 - 1 draw when Villa and Fulham went up and Halifax finished third. I don't think Chris Nicholls was at either club at that point but he was always my favourite player (as a centre half myself)
Now in my 30th year as a Villa fans and suffice to say my opinion of Leeds fans hasn't changed since then
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The Bielsa fair play thing needs to be balanced with him having to apologise for employing someone to spy on an opposing teams training session.
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& the amount of his players who have been guilty of awful non contact diving ie Bamford multiple times, Ayling earlier this season & Llorente last night....sure there are one or two others to add.
Fair play my arse....tho to be fair to him I doubt he campaigned for that award
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Sturdy performance after a terrible few weeks . keep Barkley out of the team and we will flourish, even without Jack.
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Hardly terrible.
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Must have missed those terrible few weeks.
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Sturdy performance after a terrible few weeks . keep Barkley out of the team and we will flourish, even without Jack.
We were inconsistent. We had some decent displays mixed in with some poor ones. But there was nothing terrible about our last few weeks. We played a lot of games in a very short period of time coming after we were shut down as a club and dropped maybe a couple of spots overall in the process.
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We were inconsistent. We had some decent displays mixed in with some poor ones. But there was nothing terrible about our last few weeks. We played a lot of games in a very short period of time coming after we were shut down as a club and dropped maybe a couple of spots overall in the process.
Agreed. Can't have been that bad, it didn't even warrant a Statement.
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The Bielsa fair play thing needs to be balanced with him having to apologise for employing someone to spy on an opposing teams training session.
Doubt if it would’ve happen if DS, JT and all the staff hadn’t turned on Bielsa and his cronies
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The Bielsa fair play thing needs to be balanced with him having to apologise for employing someone to spy on an opposing teams training session.
Doubt if it would’ve happen if DS, JT and all the staff hadn’t turned on Bielsa and his cronies
I still can't quite get my head around the fact that they got a fair play award for that match, a game in which their terrible sportsmanship led to the incident in the first place, and they then had a player retrospectively banned for a truly heinous bit of play acting in getting somebody sent off. If I went and nicked the takings from our local newsagent, I wouldn't expect an MBE for giving them back!
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
I'm not sure what's the more embarrassing for them, Bellend Road or Leeds-Bradford Airport which is, by a fucking mile, the worst airport I've ever been to.
As a erstwhile regular user of LBA, it has its advantages; although, admitedly, its recent efforts to expand and upgrade have been atrocious.
Fun factoid. LBA is Englands highest airport and yes, what a shithole.
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Worst airport for me was Moscow in the 1980s, about an 8 hour wait for a connection.
Most unusual must be Barra in the Western Isles of Scotland. Planes land on the beach when the tides out.
Worst for me was the Havana domestic terminal in the mid 90s though still not as grim as the 50s era Soviet planes we boarded.
In a similar vein to Barra, Donegal airport is supposed to be very nice. Never been, one for when 'normal' returns.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/donegal-airport-landing-strip-is-second-most-scenic-in-the-world-1.3063774
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Keflavik, serving Reykjavik is a stunner.
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Keflavik, serving Reykjavik is a stunner.
Another one on the 'normal' list. Never been to Iceland but I've heard the scenery is very easy on the eye.
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Worst airport for me was Moscow in the 1980s, about an 8 hour wait for a connection.
Most unusual must be Barra in the Western Isles of Scotland. Planes land on the beach when the tides out.
Worst for me was the Havana domestic terminal in the mid 90s though still not as grim as the 50s era Soviet planes we boarded.
In a similar vein to Barra, Donegal airport is supposed to be very nice. Never been, one for when 'normal' returns.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/donegal-airport-landing-strip-is-second-most-scenic-in-the-world-1.3063774
I haven't used Donegal airport but I have seen it. We were up there for a few days break a few years ago and on one of our drives came upon it purely by accident. It really is lovely, as is most of Donegal.
Sligo airport, although no longer used for commercial flights is also nicely situated in Strandhill, but you'd know that anyway.
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Keflavik, serving Reykjavik is a stunner.
Another one on the 'normal' list. Never been to Iceland but I've heard the scenery is very easy on the eye.
The one in Erdington isn't
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It's been like that for 30 odd years. Elland Road is absolutely shite.
I'm not sure what's the more embarrassing for them, Bellend Road or Leeds-Bradford Airport which is, by a fucking mile, the worst airport I've ever been to.
As a erstwhile regular user of LBA, it has its advantages; although, admitedly, its recent efforts to expand and upgrade have been atrocious.
Fun factoid. LBA is Englands highest airport and yes, what a shithole.
So, it has two things in common with The Hawthorns. (Highest league ground in England at 168.3m above sea level)
Incidentally Villa Park comes in 19th at 105.8m.
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Villa have proven time and time again what they are all about.
If we lose to these cheating, unsporting, scumbags it changes nothing as we'll always be on a different level to them class wise
Trololol
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The lack of self awareness this lot possess is mad. At least Millwall know everyone hates them.
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I had to spend about 6 hours in Moscow airport in the 90s and it was indeedpretty shit for a major airport. Back then staff offered to sneak you out for a suitable fee and give a guided tour for a few hours but I balked at the idea of hitting traffic and missing the connecting flight. I also wasn’t too sure about being out in Moscow with no visa and the risk of being dumped or ripped off by the bored airport staff.
Did anybody here ever land in the old Hong Kong airport before it was replaced around 20years ago? Apparently a very hair raising experience coming in near high rise blocks.
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I think the technical term for it is ‘projection.’
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I haven't used Donegal airport but I have seen it. We were up there for a few days break a few years ago and on one of our drives came upon it purely by accident. It really is lovely, as is most of Donegal.
Sligo airport, although no longer used for commercial flights is also nicely situated in Strandhill, but you'd know that anyway.
Nope, never been to Donegal and have only been to Sligo twice (both brief visits, 30+ years ago and not for sightseeing). A bit weird really given where I grew up.
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I had to spend about 6 hours in Moscow airport in the 90s and it was indeedpretty shit for a major airport. Back then staff offered to sneak you out for a suitable fee and give a guided tour for a few hours but I balked at the idea of hitting traffic and missing the connecting flight. I also wasn’t too sure about being out in Moscow with no visa and the risk of being dumped or ripped off by the bored airport staff.
Did anybody here ever land in the old Hong Kong airport before it was replaced around 20years ago? Apparently a very hair raising experience coming in near high rise blocks.
Flew into Hong Kong late 80s at nightime. I was on the best (or worst) side of the plane as it sloped in to land, you saw the high rise blocks below and as you got nearer it just became a crazy blur and you felt you were going to crash into them.
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The Bielsa fair play thing needs to be balanced with him having to apologise for employing someone to spy on an opposing teams training session.
Doubt if it would’ve happen if DS, JT and all the staff hadn’t turned on Bielsa and his cronies
I still can't quite get my head around the fact that they got a fair play award for that match, a game in which their terrible sportsmanship led to the incident in the first place, and they then had a player retrospectively banned for a truly heinous bit of play acting in getting somebody sent off. If I went and nicked the takings from our local newsagent, I wouldn't expect an MBE for giving them back!
100% with you. It is also something Leeds fans go on about as if they actually had to beat a load of teams to win that award.
I think they are annoying because they like the no one likes us image which goes back to the Revie era, when bottling entered their DNA. I also think they really have a complex at not having a deadly enemy. Newcastle at least have a serious rivalry with Sunderland which pre-dates football. Loads of teams have had a strong rivalry with Leeds over they years - Manyoo, Chelsea, both Sheffield clubs, for example - but each of them has a more bitter rival. Loads of fans dislike Leeds but they are just not important enough to be anybody’s number one pet hate. And that seems to send them yampy. Which is funny.
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The entry into London City if you circle round then come down the Thames over Westminster etc is pretty sweet.
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They get funnier.
As for the Llorente incident, I watched it again to see what all the fuss was about. It wasn't just the tackle, it was the hard kick with the following foot that did the damage, after the initial dirty contact.. Then there was the 'grabbed' lift, where Llorente was hauled up, putting his full weight onto one shoulder. 3 yellows in one
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I haven't used Donegal airport but I have seen it. We were up there for a few days break a few years ago and on one of our drives came upon it purely by accident. It really is lovely, as is most of Donegal.
Sligo airport, although no longer used for commercial flights is also nicely situated in Strandhill, but you'd know that anyway.
Nope, never been to Donegal and have only been to Sligo twice (both brief visits, 30+ years ago and not for sightseeing). A bit weird really given where I grew up.
You should go up sometime, Covid permitting. You'd be in Strandhill in an hour and the airport is just as you approach the village. There's not much else there but it's a nice place and the beach is long and lovely. We do it quite often.
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The entry into London City if you circle round then come down the Thames over Westminster etc is pretty sweet.
Yep it's good if the plane is asked to circle around near The Shard, some great views over London. I hate the landings there though, it's such a short runway that the planes all come down hard at a really steep angle.
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Nope, never been to Donegal and have only been to Sligo twice (both brief visits, 30+ years ago and not for sightseeing). A bit weird really given where I grew up.
You should go up sometime, Covid permitting. You'd be in Strandhill in an hour and the airport is just as you approach the village. There's not much else there but it's a nice place and the beach is long and lovely. We do it quite often.
Oh I know, Covid's made me appreciate that and there's plenty more. Never been to Derry, Limerick, Cliffs of Moher, Connemara, Aran Islands and that's just the West Coast. No excuse given how small Ireland is.
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They get funnier.
As for the Llorente incident, I watched it again to see what all the fuss was about. It wasn't just the tackle, it was the hard kick with the following foot that did the damage, after the initial dirty contact.. Then there was the 'grabbed' lift, where Llorente was hauled up, putting his full weight onto one shoulder. 3 yellows in one
Bless.
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They get funnier.
As for the Llorente incident, I watched it again to see what all the fuss was about. It wasn't just the tackle, it was the hard kick with the following foot that did the damage, after the initial dirty contact.. Then there was the 'grabbed' lift, where Llorente was hauled up, putting his full weight onto one shoulder. 3 yellows in one
Beautiful.
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Nope, never been to Donegal and have only been to Sligo twice (both brief visits, 30+ years ago and not for sightseeing). A bit weird really given where I grew up.
You should go up sometime, Covid permitting. You'd be in Strandhill in an hour and the airport is just as you approach the village. There's not much else there but it's a nice place and the beach is long and lovely. We do it quite often.
Oh I know, Covid's made me appreciate that and there's plenty more. Never been to Derry, Limerick, Cliffs of Moher, Connemara, Aran Islands and that's just the West Coast. No excuse given how small Ireland is.
Stayed in Lisdoonvarna for a bit and visited the Cliffs of Moher, they are jaw dropping. The brown water out of the taps from the peat takes a bit of getting used to though.
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Just reading a Leeds forum because I'm pathetic. Apparently Bielsa is on £6m per year! I'd never really thought about how much managers get paid but that seems a lot. Anyone have any idea of the stipend Dean commands?
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They get funnier.
As for the Llorente incident, I watched it again to see what all the fuss was about. It wasn't just the tackle, it was the hard kick with the following foot that did the damage, after the initial dirty contact.. Then there was the 'grabbed' lift, where Llorente was hauled up, putting his full weight onto one shoulder. 3 yellows in one
Hopefully they don’t put Covid on the death certificate-just leave it at brain dead moron is sufficient
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Just reading a Leeds forum because I'm pathetic. Apparently Bielsa is on £6m per year! I'd never really thought about how much managers get paid but that seems a lot. Anyone have any idea of the stipend Dean commands?
https://www.sportekz.com/football/premier-league-managers-2020-salaries/
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Just reading a Leeds forum because I'm pathetic. Apparently Bielsa is on £6m per year! I'd never really thought about how much managers get paid but that seems a lot. Anyone have any idea of the stipend Dean commands?
https://www.sportekz.com/football/premier-league-managers-2020-salaries/
Fucking hell, he's on less than Bruce! He's being robbed!
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Nope, never been to Donegal and have only been to Sligo twice (both brief visits, 30+ years ago and not for sightseeing). A bit weird really given where I grew up.
You should go up sometime, Covid permitting. You'd be in Strandhill in an hour and the airport is just as you approach the village. There's not much else there but it's a nice place and the beach is long and lovely. We do it quite often.
Oh I know, Covid's made me appreciate that and there's plenty more. Never been to Derry, Limerick, Cliffs of Moher, Connemara, Aran Islands and that's just the West Coast. No excuse given how small Ireland is.
Stayed in Lisdoonvarna for a bit and visited the Cliffs of Moher, they are jaw dropping. The brown water out of the taps from the peat takes a bit of getting used to though.
Been to all those places BV mentions, more than once with a couple of them. The Cliffs of Moher are as you say, absolutely jaw dropping. I've been there many times but stopped going when the bastards decided to start charging €€12 to park the car!
Myself and a mate took a day trip to the Aran Islands a few years ago and hired bikes for the day. The weather was beautiful and we had a great day. It was there that I actually saw a Cuckoo, I heard it a long time before I saw it, it was sitting on telephone wires.
Conemara speaks for itself. Anyone going there needs to get off the beaten track. I absolutely love the West of Ireland.
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I got married in the west of Ireland good few years ago now, beautiful holiday town in Mayo, Westport. The wife’s family come from out that way about 20 miles south, right out in the sticks, nothing but rolling hills one side and the vast Atlantic the other. We go every year pre pandemic and can’t wait to get back.
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Where else would you get anecdotes about eerie international airports, west of ireland beauty spots player ratings and Leeds hating !!
For those of a more mature vintage, where would Johnny Giles fit in the pantheon of top midfield players in England in the past 50-60 years? He is still going strong on various media channels
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Just reading a Leeds forum because I'm pathetic. Apparently Bielsa is on £6m per year! I'd never really thought about how much managers get paid but that seems a lot. Anyone have any idea of the stipend Dean commands?
Doesn’t seem that much given that he’s the sole reason they’re where they are. When he leaves they’ll drop like a stone, which will be tremendous.
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We have a hell of a bench with Grealish, Luiz and Barkley to be bought on...if needed.
Cash, Hause and Wesley too .
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Good win - but for me we played to many long balls - I suppose we were worried about getting caught in possession in and around our penalty area by Leeds pressing
That pitch is a disgrace for a premier league team
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Dean said we deliberately played long balls to bypass the state of the pitch. It was tactical and sensible even if we didn’t hold onto it enough at times.
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https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-ayling-smith-villa-19933907
Fancy a laugh? Apparently Smith was engaging in gamesmanship....
For a bigger laugh check out some of the comments below...
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Well I suppose Dean’s apparent gamesmanship which was merely shouting comments like ‘you’ve got the beating of him’ to El Ghazi can be compared to deliberately trying to con the opposition into thinking you’re putting the ball out to get a goal advantage, having one of your forwards deliberately getting an opposition player sent off by falling to the floor with no contact, spying on an opponents training session to gain an unfair advantage or of course doing five rolling pirouettes to try and get an opponent booked and then suddenly recovering to be able to square up to him. Yes they are paragons of virtue. I love how we wind these people up now. Long may it continue.
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I had images in my head then of Dean proper going in on Ayling and it turns out he didnt say a thing to Ayling. Great journalism.
The irony of Leeds fans moaning that we're a horrible classless club is not lost on me either.
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Good win - but for me we played to many long balls - I suppose we were worried about getting caught in possession in and around our penalty area by Leeds pressing
That pitch is a disgrace for a premier league team
Yeah, I think long balls were a necessity given the state of the pitch. No point trying to play silky football when you're on a ploughed field.
Quite chuffed with that win. Ground out a result with a workmanlike performance, which is exactly what was required.
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Leeds fans are deluded twats #23,659
"Yes we know about Dean's lack of education including the offside laws. What goes round comes round especially when players are encouraged to act injured, wind up opponents and indulge in prolonged time wasting. Overpaid footballers led by overpaid managers generate dissatisfaction among decent fans who expect these "stars" to be role models exhibiting the best ethics morals principles and scruples."
Well, when we've been on the end of a VAR offside call, I've never heard Smith say anything other than "it's the same for everybody, it's either offside or it isn't" which strikes me as a very mature and sanguine take on things. As for overpaid footballers and managers, Bielsa must get about 5 times what Dean does, and let's have a look at the table shall we.
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https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-ayling-smith-villa-19933907
Fancy a laugh? Apparently Smith was engaging in gamesmanship....
For a bigger laugh check out some of the comments below...
Thanks for that I needed a good laugh. My god they are a strange bunch at Leeds. Even their local paper making absurd claims about Deano getting in Aylings ear all game clearly forgetting that they change sides at half time. They also claimed that we engaged in time wasting for the whole of the second half which apparently a packed Elland Road would have put a stop to. Oh and we're now the biggest diving cheats in the league even without Grealish. Err Llorente? Bamford? The Ayling flop? They really are a their own republic up there. Fucking mentalists the lot of them.
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Dean said we deliberately played long balls to bypass the state of the pitch. It was tactical and sensible even if we didn’t hold onto it enough at times.
But that was totally unfair and cheating. Our club and fans should go into a period of self isolation to contemplate the error of our ways
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https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-ayling-smith-villa-19933907
Fancy a laugh? Apparently Smith was engaging in gamesmanship....
For a bigger laugh check out some of the comments below...
Thanks for that I needed a good laugh. My god they are a strange bunch at Leeds. Even their local paper making absurd claims about Deano getting in Aylings ear all game clearly forgetting that they change sides at half time. They also claimed that we engaged in time wasting for the whole of the second half which apparently a packed Elland Road would have put a stop to. Oh and we're now the biggest diving cheats in the league even without Grealish. Err Llorente? Bamford? The Ayling flop? They really are a their own republic up there. Fucking mentalists the lot of them.
Full QANON. Ignore any outright shithousery from your own side, repeatedly, whilst going ballistic over any incident that favours your opponents in some way.
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Leeds definitely have the weirdest, most annoying fans in the PL. They’re absolutely unbearable. They almost make Wolves fans appear normal.
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Have to admit that Martinez was taking his time to kick the ball back into play.
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I don't think they've ever got over the offside goal by Jeff Astle.
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Must be a Yorkshire thing. I remember us beating Sheffield Wednesday in the championship under Bruce and their fans were off the scale with their accusations. They accused us of bribing the ref. Brown envelopes the lot. They started an online petition for an investigation into the leagues corruption. I've never given it much thought before but I think fans of Yorkshire clubs are the bitterest sore losers in the country.
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Its Yorkshire, why is anyone surprised?
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Have to admit that Martinez was taking his time to kick the ball back into play.
Good - anything to wind them up
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Have to admit that Martinez was taking his time to kick the ball back into play.
Just like every other goalkeeper for every other team defending a lead does.
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Have to admit that Martinez was taking his time to kick the ball back into play.
Just like every other goalkeeper for every other team defending a lead does.
agree. And drives me nuts when it happens to us.
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Have to admit that Martinez was taking his time to kick the ball back into play.
Just like every other goalkeeper for every other team defending a lead does.
But obviously a Leeds keeper wouldn't stoop to such underhand tactics. Never.
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Leeds have a 13 year old boy on goal too it seems.
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Leeds have a 13 year old boy on goal too it seems.
Ha ha , he does look young although marvellous doesn’t look much older 😳
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https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-ayling-smith-villa-19933907
Fancy a laugh? Apparently Smith was engaging in gamesmanship....
For a bigger laugh check out some of the comments below...
Thanks for that I needed a good laugh. My god they are a strange bunch at Leeds. Even their local paper making absurd claims about Deano getting in Aylings ear all game clearly forgetting that they change sides at half time. They also claimed that we engaged in time wasting for the whole of the second half which apparently a packed Elland Road would have put a stop to. Oh and we're now the biggest diving cheats in the league even without Grealish. Err Llorente? Bamford? The Ayling flop? They really are a their own republic up there. Fucking mentalists the lot of them.
Full QANON. Ignore any outright shithousery from your own side, repeatedly, whilst going ballistic over any incident that favours your opponents in some way.
They’ve turned into Man U fans without any of the success.
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Leeds fans have gone from siege mentality no-one likes us to full-on Everybody's Second Club credits to football overnight.
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Having lived in and around the area from the age of 9 for about 20 years, Leeds were the local rival team to detest for me. Always have and they really do have ideas above their station. Them winning the league was gut-wrenching. Then we had their reject manager.
Now they are feted as being the best thing since sliced bread, and involved in more goals than any other team (43 for and now 44 against) a minus goal difference is surely nothing to be revered for?! Everyone's second favourite team my arse. I'm sure if you asked most fans they wouldn't even be close. I like watching them when there are goals involved, only in the against column. Couldn't have been happier with the result on Saturday. They're a disgrace of a club.
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I don't think they've ever got over the offside goal by Jeff Astle.
Just watched the 9 minutes highlights on YouTube. Amazing what they got away with. Swinging arms, fans and police on the pitch, Revie on the pitch, objects hitting the linesman.
What scum.
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Don’t forget this is the club who’s fans thought it would be a good idea to remind the Bradford fans of the disaster that was still fresh in their minds from the season before by setting fire to a chip van and then invading the pitch and Bradfords supporters stand to assault anyone in sight. Absolute scum of the earth club and fan base.
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If you are going to shithouse, don't complain if the opposition shithouse too.
I think we've become much more streetwise in the last 12 months, we know how to buy free kicks in tenuous circumstances, how to waste time to see out a game and how to rub people up the wrong way.
Now I'm certainly not happy that cheating and diving is rewarded at all but we can choose to stand as paragons of virtue while the likes of Salah, Bamford et el are excused at every turn and we will lose out, or we get wise and compete. We've levelled the playing field of our own volition and good for us.
It's part of the modern game I hate, alongside VAR and the gargantuan hypocrisy of almost every manager, the Newton Heath penalty bleating a prime example. But until it is addressed I'd rather we yanked eveyone's chain 'cos they won't give it a second thought about doing it to us.
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I don't think they've ever got over the offside goal by Jeff Astle.
Just watched the 9 minutes highlights on YouTube. Amazing what they got away with. Swinging arms, fans and police on the pitch, Revie on the pitch, objects hitting the linesman.
What scum.
Just a bunch of thin-skinned bullys. It's the sweetest win of the season by miles.
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If you are going to shithouse, don't complain if the opposition shithouse too.
I think we've become much more streetwise in the last 12 months, we know how to buy free kicks in tenuous circumstances, how to waste time to see out a game and how to rub people up the wrong way.
Now I'm certainly not happy that cheating and diving is rewarded at all but we can choose to stand as paragons of virtue while the likes of Salah, Bamford et el are excused at every turn and we will lose out, or we get wise and compete. We've levelled the playing field of our own volition and good for us.
It's part of the modern game I hate, alongside VAR and the gargantuan hypocrisy of almost every manager, the Newton Heath penalty bleating a prime example. But until it is addressed I'd rather we yanked eveyone's chain 'cos they won't give it a second thought about doing it to us.
Whenever other clubs moan about us I'm reminded of Sir Graham talking about Watford: "Nobody said anything when we were in division three. Nobody said much when we got promoted to division one. They only starting complaining about us when we started beating Liverpool and Manchester United."
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If you are going to shithouse, don't complain if the opposition shithouse too.
I think we've become much more streetwise in the last 12 months, we know how to buy free kicks in tenuous circumstances, how to waste time to see out a game and how to rub people up the wrong way.
Now I'm certainly not happy that cheating and diving is rewarded at all but we can choose to stand as paragons of virtue while the likes of Salah, Bamford et el are excused at every turn and we will lose out, or we get wise and compete. We've levelled the playing field of our own volition and good for us.
It's part of the modern game I hate, alongside VAR and the gargantuan hypocrisy of almost every manager, the Newton Heath penalty bleating a prime example. But until it is addressed I'd rather we yanked eveyone's chain 'cos they won't give it a second thought about doing it to us.
Spot on. I couldn't agree more.
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I don't think they've ever got over the offside goal by Jeff Astle.
Just watched the 9 minutes highlights on YouTube. Amazing what they got away with. Swinging arms, fans and police on the pitch, Revie on the pitch, objects hitting the linesman.
What scum.
Just a bunch of thin-skinned bullys. It's the sweetest win of the season by miles.
That and Liverpool. My two least favourite clubs by far.
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Can we have this back on Heroes Discussion until the next match please?
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Ah well. Just to say there's a TikTok video of Llorente rolling around prior to the miracle and it's got 335k likes already!
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Can we have this back on Heroes Discussion until the next match please?
That should be the way these threads work i reckon.