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Title: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: Small Rodent on January 29, 2021, 10:09:06 AM
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This was fun to watch. Even though the pitch was a quagmire, there was very little hoofball from both sides.

A very young Laurie Cunningham playing for Orient.

I found the number 10 and 11 for Orient amusingly named in a Greek myth sort of way.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: Paul T on January 31, 2021, 10:02:14 AM
Was That the 1975 game when Orient won 1-0 ?
Went to that game as a 15 year old. Suddenly feel old.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 31, 2021, 10:39:13 PM
Yes, a 1-0 defeat.

Villa then won the next eight games to clinch promotion, the margin of victory always being at least two goals.

It was a Brian Little festival!
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 01, 2021, 08:52:13 AM
Must be around 1975, as that McDonald (Bobby?) Is playing and I don't think he had thay many appearances for us. Think he may have played in the League Cup Final for us though.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 01, 2021, 10:46:18 AM
Bobby McDonald was a really good player, especially influential on the left side of midfield in that promotion winning side.  He was sold far too early I always thought, to Coventry, I think there was something about him that Ron Saunders didn't like, but he went on to do really well, at Coventry and Manchester City.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 01, 2021, 04:08:43 PM
he was on the pop
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2021, 04:10:17 PM
Must be around 1975, as that McDonald (Bobby?) Is playing and I don't think he had thay many appearances for us. Think he may have played in the League Cup Final for us though.

He played while John Gidman was recovering from his firework accident.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 01, 2021, 04:21:41 PM
The season before was a much more entertaining game and I ended up on the pitch -when Graydon scored and stopped them from going up - the friday night game
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: Holte132 on February 01, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
Look at their number 2 - Grealish! 

From wiki: Born in Paddington, London, Tony Grealish played club football for Leyton Orient, Luton Town, Brighton & Hove Albion, West Bromwich Albion, Manchester City, Rotherham United, Walsall and Bromsgrove Rovers. Grealish captained Brighton in the 1983 FA Cup Final.  Died in 2013 aged only 56
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 01, 2021, 05:02:39 PM
The season before was a much more entertaining game and I ended up on the pitch -when Graydon scored and stopped them from going up - the friday night game

I was at that 1974 game. Orient needed to win to go up and it was a dead rubber for us. Almost 30,000 in Brisbane Road, not many Villa there. We played like our lives depended on it and it meant Carlisle went up (who we lost to the previous Saturday at Brunton Park). Loads of West Ham outside after looking for trouble, kept my head down and my mouth shut. Vic Crowes last game in charge.

I had a ticket for the Cup final the next day. Liverpool walkover against Newcastle.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 01, 2021, 11:54:29 PM
Look at their number 2 - Grealish! 

From wiki: Born in Paddington, London, Tony Grealish played club football for Leyton Orient, Luton Town, Brighton & Hove Albion, West Bromwich Albion, Manchester City, Rotherham United, Walsall and Bromsgrove Rovers. Grealish captained Brighton in the 1983 FA Cup Final.  Died in 2013 aged only 56

Uncle to the rapper, Example.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 02, 2021, 01:47:46 AM
It  was John Robson who took Giddy's place at right back; Charlie stayed at left, and Bobby prompted from midfield.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 02, 2021, 01:54:44 AM
It  was John Robson who took Giddy's place at right back; Charlie stayed at left, and Bobby prompted from midfield.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Robson started the season in midfield then moved to right back after November 5th.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 02, 2021, 07:59:20 AM
It  was John Robson who took Giddy's place at right back; Charlie stayed at left, and Bobby prompted from midfield.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Robson started the season in midfield then moved to right back after November 5th.

An accomplished full-back, Robson had played more than 200 times for Derby when manager Vic Crowe brought him to Villa Park just before Christmas in 1972 after agreeing to pay £90,000.

A tough tackler, he quickly settled into life in the Midlands and put in a string of impressive displays.

And the following season he transformed into an equally fine midfielder following the emergence of John Gidman at right-back.

In the 1974-75 campaign, he missed just one of Villa's league and cup matches as they won promotion to the top flight and lifted the League Cup by beating Norwich City at Wembley.

That season Robson had started in midfield but he reverted back to being a defender, after Gidman suffered a serious eye injury following a a firework accident.

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2016/04/04/glittering-highs-and-sad-lows-for-john-robson/


(https://i.ibb.co/q0wvYgM/4-H56-HQV5-HVC7-VM4-IY2-VOOWO3-EI.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q0wvYgM)

The John Robson International XI in the dressing-room at Villa Park prior to the John Robson Testimonial match against Aston Villa, 30th October 1978. Villa defender John Robson (wearing the dark suit, front row) had been diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis forcing his early retirement from football. Also on the front row (left-right) Kenny Sansom, Osvaldo Ardiles, John Robson, Lou Macari, Alan Buckley, Kenny Dalglish and Bill Shorthouse. Behind them (left-right): Chris Nicholl, Gordon Hill, Trevor Brooking, Martin Buchan, Ian Gillard, Duncan McKenzie, Ray Clemence, Tommy Hutchison, Ian Wallace, and Jimmy Calderwood.





Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 02, 2021, 07:49:06 PM
The season before was a much more entertaining game and I ended up on the pitch -when Graydon scored and stopped them from going up - the friday night game

I was at that 1974 game. Orient needed to win to go up and it was a dead rubber for us. Almost 30,000 in Brisbane Road, not many Villa there. We played like our lives depended on it and it meant Carlisle went up (who we lost to the previous Saturday at Brunton Park). Loads of West Ham outside after looking for trouble, kept my head down and my mouth shut. Vic Crowes last game in charge.

I had a ticket for the Cup final the next day. Liverpool walkover against Newcastle.

We took the lead, I remember that then were on the back foot rest of game, Orient wore sock tabs.  Would have thought it was there last 30,000 attendance including West Ham and Man Utd.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 03, 2021, 01:07:17 AM
Hi Dave.

Can't see any difference in what we have both written re Robbo/Giddy.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 03, 2021, 01:10:41 AM
Hi Dave.

Can't see any difference in what we have both written re Robbo/Giddy.

Sorry, I must have been using the wrong eyes.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 03, 2021, 01:23:51 AM
How many pairs have you got?
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 03, 2021, 01:33:20 AM
How many pairs have you got?

There's always room for more.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: Exeter 77 on February 03, 2021, 10:07:09 AM
I was talking to my Dad last night and we were both wondering how many different positions John Robson played in for Villa. I only saw him play once or twice but definitely remember seeing video of a game with him wearing the number 9 shirt. It could have been the derby game after Andy Gray signed and was sat in the dugout when Kenny Burns attempted to amputate Robson's lower leg. Of course the number he was wearing may have had no bearing on where he actually played.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on February 03, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
Think he was RB in the 1975 League Cup Final and LB in the 1977 one
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: KevinGage on February 03, 2021, 06:30:34 PM
It  was John Robson who took Giddy's place at right back; Charlie stayed at left, and Bobby prompted from midfield.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Robson started the season in midfield then moved to right back after November 5th.

An accomplished full-back, Robson had played more than 200 times for Derby when manager Vic Crowe brought him to Villa Park just before Christmas in 1972 after agreeing to pay £90,000.

A tough tackler, he quickly settled into life in the Midlands and put in a string of impressive displays.

And the following season he transformed into an equally fine midfielder following the emergence of John Gidman at right-back.

In the 1974-75 campaign, he missed just one of Villa's league and cup matches as they won promotion to the top flight and lifted the League Cup by beating Norwich City at Wembley.

That season Robson had started in midfield but he reverted back to being a defender, after Gidman suffered a serious eye injury following a a firework accident.

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2016/04/04/glittering-highs-and-sad-lows-for-john-robson/


(https://i.ibb.co/q0wvYgM/4-H56-HQV5-HVC7-VM4-IY2-VOOWO3-EI.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q0wvYgM)

The John Robson International XI in the dressing-room at Villa Park prior to the John Robson Testimonial match against Aston Villa, 30th October 1978. Villa defender John Robson (wearing the dark suit, front row) had been diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis forcing his early retirement from football. Also on the front row (left-right) Kenny Sansom, Osvaldo Ardiles, John Robson, Lou Macari, Alan Buckley, Kenny Dalglish and Bill Shorthouse. Behind them (left-right): Chris Nicholl, Gordon Hill, Trevor Brooking, Martin Buchan, Ian Gillard, Duncan McKenzie, Ray Clemence, Tommy Hutchison, Ian Wallace, and Jimmy Calderwood.







Great picture, that.
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: DevonSteve on February 05, 2021, 07:06:29 PM
Was there, my 17th birthday. Only game we lost in Division 2 in 1975
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 05, 2021, 08:46:44 PM
Was there, my 17th birthday. Only game we lost in Division 2 in 1975

Won 15  Drew 2 Lost 1
 
Title: Re: Orient v Villa on The Big Match
Post by: sid1964 on February 15, 2021, 07:35:37 AM
We are on the "Big Match Revisited" again on Saturday - not the main game - Us V Wolves @ molineux - October 79 - Vaguely remember the game (the sending offs)
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