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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 23, 2021, 07:00:46 PM
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Nakamba in for SJM
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Surprised about Marv.
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Hmmmmm🤔
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Nakamba starting surprises me, guess we'll give Doug licence to be a bit more box to box.
As you were apart from that.
Saint Maximn on the bench for them.
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Marv does allow Dougie further forward though which is good.
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Great opportunity for Marv to show how he's improved.
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Nakamba has waited for his chance all season I suppose. Playing Ramsey instead may have been too attack minded. We'll see though.
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I am surprised El Ghazi doesn't start. He finished last season well and started this season well. He also has a goal or two in him.
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who is missing from the Cithe start up
save me checking
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Who is the ref
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Newcastle: Darlow, Manquillo, Schar, Lascelles, Lewis, Almiron, Shelvey, Hayden, Hendrick, Wilson, Carroll. Subs: Dubravka, Matthew Longstaff, Joelinton, Saint-Maximin, Ritchie, Gayle, Krafth, Fraser, Murphy.
Ref: Simon Hooper
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who is missing from the Cithe start up
save me checking
McGinn.
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I See SJM
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Who is the ref
The one in green usually ;) A guy I stood on the Holte with back in the day always fell for that one. Although back then the answer was "The one in black.
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I did hear that El Ghazi was one of the ones who had Covid. Might explain his absence at least? Energy levels might not be up to where they were yet...
If not, it’s a bit harsh on him.
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This has to be the biggest madness of the day....
Dean Smith on touchline ban: "I'll be in the directors' box and I'll be wired up to Shakey and JT who will be a yard away from me, such is the madness of rules. I can coach in the mic but I can't shout instructions on to the pitch. The three lads will be doing that for me."
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Watkins to score tonight though. At least 2.
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Come on Villa. I've had a Low Lockdown Day: cheer me up, pretty please! X
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Win please Villa.
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A win tonight would really set us up for Burnley to go and take the game to them and make a push on the top 6 places. It's 8.00pm, that's our kick off time this season. Let's do a number on them and put the game to bed and Bruce out of his misery. Come on you Villa boys.
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Surprised to see Nakamba as opposed to AEG. Why no McGinn?
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Surprised to see Nakamba as opposed to AEG. Why no McGinn?
Suspended
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Surprised to see Nakamba as opposed to AEG. Why no McGinn?
Suspended for five yellows.
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Thank you.
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For me this has a feel of being one of those games we should win, so probably won’t. I’d love to see another performance like at Palace and back to winning ways. I’d take a scrappy 0-1 in all honesty. Haven’t really seen anything of the Geordies this year, but my stereotypical thoughts on Bruce expects him to set up defensively and try and try to snatch one. Presumably he still tries to do that?
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Anybody else a bit nervous about this? Not whether or not we’ll perform but I just don’t have any faith in the refs and the PL etc. I just expect to get shafted in some way by the authorities
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For me this has a feel of being one of those games we should win, so probably won’t. I’d love to see another performance like at Palace and back to winning ways. I’d take a scrappy 0-1 in all honesty. Haven’t really seen anything of the Geordies this year, but my stereotypical thoughts on Bruce expects him to set up defensively and try and try to snatch one. Presumably he still tries to do that?
You'd take a scrappy 0-1? Fuck that we can beat these. The Geordies are up in arms about Bruceball. They're even using our Bruceosaurus jibe which Sunderland fans used before us. Everywhere he goes it's like groundhog day.
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Please win Villa, happy with the side selected tonight.
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I can't say I'm happy that all three of Traore, Nakamba and Barkley start tonight. Ramsey and El Ghazi should have any of those places. Hope I'm proven wrong.
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With no AEG or Trez in the starting line up who do we think is going to play on our right? My guess is Traore with Jack on the left.
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Nakamba has waited for his chance all season I suppose. Playing Ramsey instead may have been too attack minded. We'll see though.
I think it’s that. Smith brought Ramsey on for Barcklay on Wednesday, so might of been a bit gung ho, with just Luiz as defensive minded in the middle. Will miss McGinn tonight, but hopefully will have enough for this lot.
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Happy enough with that team. Win, please.
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I can't say I'm happy that all three of Traore, Nakamba and Barkley start tonight. Ramsey and El Ghazi should have any of those places. Hope I'm proven wrong.
Barkley shouldn’t start against Newcastle? You must be joking. He was unsurprisingly rusty the other night, but he has real class.
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Maximums on the bench but Bruce can’t make a son before 70 minutes so hopefully by that time we will be out of sight
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Come on the Villa, Let's get climbing up that table.
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Newcastle are lining up with three at the back. I have seen them play that a few times and it seems to suit them more.
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I can't say I'm happy that all three of Traore, Nakamba and Barkley start tonight. Ramsey and El Ghazi should have any of those places. Hope I'm proven wrong.
Barkley shouldn’t start against Newcastle? You must be joking. He was unsurprisingly rusty the other night, but he has real class.
I'm not saying Barkley shouldn't be starting. What I am saying is that El Ghazi and Ramsey should be.
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Think this is exactly the right line up tonight. Hope I don’t regret my confidence.
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Marvs a good call to break up the play from that Toon middle 5.
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Newcastle are lining up with three at the back. I have seen them play that a few times and it seems to suit them more.
Think I just heard Kelly say that Newcastle have lost 5/6 when playing 3 at the back
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Newcastle are lining up with three at the back. I have seen them play that a few times and it seems to suit them more.
Think I just heard Kelly say that Newcastle have lost 5/6 when playing 3 at the back
Yes they have been woeful with three at the back, then again they have been woeful most of the season.
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Newcastle are lining up with three at the back. I have seen them play that a few times and it seems to suit them more.
Think I just heard Kelly say that Newcastle have lost 5/6 when playing 3 at the back
She did
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Come on boys, let’s do this!
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I've been a Villa fan long enough to expect a Carroll hat-trick this evening!
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For me this has a feel of being one of those games we should win, so probably won’t. I’d love to see another performance like at Palace and back to winning ways. I’d take a scrappy 0-1 in all honesty. Haven’t really seen anything of the Geordies this year, but my stereotypical thoughts on Bruce expects him to set up defensively and try and try to snatch one. Presumably he still tries to do that?
You'd take a scrappy 0-1? Fuck that we can beat these.
I assume he means 1-0 to us.
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I'm nervous. Just win Villa.
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Somebody tell Darren Bent he can just call us 'Villa'. Saying 'Aston Villa' in every sentence is stifling his conversation and opinions.
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Bloody hell that Newcastle midfield is ugly
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Andy fucking Carrol? Blimey, I thought he'd long retired.
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Jamie Carragher bigging up Konsa.
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If I were 'offered' it, I would take a 5-0 cabbaging of and general 'awful one' for Potato Head's Magpies, and nothing less. FTF!
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This season i have been more worried about the referee /VAR than who we are playing
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Come on Villa!
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Come on Villa, let's do these fuckers!!
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Tyrone Mings please do not fuck up anything. Unless it's a Newcastle player.
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Come on Villa!!!!
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Not really got going yet.
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Marvelous started ok.
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Need to get the ball in quicker from wide right.
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Another fat ref.
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Oooof, a toe from Watkins puts that away.
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Is Jack playing?!
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Yessss
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Ace our kid!
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OLLLLLLLLIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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Get in!
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Yeessssssds!
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Olllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Yeesssssssss! Olllllieeee!!!!!
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Get in. Ollie
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Looked offside!! But who cares. Come on Villa
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Olllllllie!
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Watkins to score tonight though. At least 2.
I stand by this comment.
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If the defender had left it..... And we'd scored, would it have been offside...?
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Looked offside!!
They give those now.
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Looked offside!!
Behind the ball surely.......Couldn't handle another one for him chalked off.
Goal stands.
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Looked offside!!
Var gave it the OK
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Looked offside!!
behind the ball I think, very tight though.
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Delighted for Watkins, amazed they didn't find some ancient bylaw to disallow it.
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Looked offside!!
They give those now.
YUP.
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that looked offside
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It was good of Schar to share the ball with Watkins. The keeper obviously thought " I got you babe" but he was wrong.
I'll get me coat.
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Happy for Ollie!
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Ollie Ollie Ollie!!!
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If the defender had left it..... And we'd scored, would it have been offside...?
Who knows anymore?
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Defender deliberately ‘played’ the ball there.
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Looked offside to me
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Looked offside!! But who cares. Come on Villa
Totally. More so than one's he's had disallowed.
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It was good of Schar to share the ball with Watkins. The keeper obviously thought " I got you babe" but he was wrong.
I'll get me coat.
Bloody hell Damo!!!!!!
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Similar to Mings on Wednesday apparently
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Yes!!!
Right cricket score now lads.
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Its a sad thing to say but I honestly thought that would be ruled out by VAR.
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Just prior to the goal I was going to ask why when Newcastle crossed into the box the linesman flagged on this occasion?
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They’ve really messed up the game with that new interpretation
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Watkins is such a good player.
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Magic Ollie. Now score a hat-trick.
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Watkins was behind the ball apparently when Targett hit it across
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Oooh Ross close
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Looked offside!! But who cares. Come on Villa
Totally. More so than one's he's had disallowed.
Same here but it caught a NU player on the way through
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Come on boys, let's keep the tempo up with these deliveries. Delighted for Watkins.
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Fucking gerrin!!!!
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That goal was why Deano complaining is so important. It shouldn’t happen, but you just know that the next marginal decision would go our way after what happened on Wednesday. All the top managers get away with it, Smith is definitely graduating to the next level
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Traore working noticeably harder tonight, tracking back very well.
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Doug a bit sluggish on the ball so far. Would've been amazing move if he'd just played it through there.
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It was good of Schar to share the ball with Watkins. The keeper obviously thought " I got you babe" but he was wrong.
I'll get me coat.
Bloody hell Damo!!!!!!
I've heard of off nights but this is unbelievable.
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I am so enjoying watching the Villa this season. It's like a huge dark cloud that was hanging over the ground for years has finally moved away.
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They do realise that you can not be offside if you are behind the ball when it is played,
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Another game missed whilst driving. Another goal. Great stuff.
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That goal was why Deano complaining is so important. It shouldn’t happen, but you just know that the next marginal decision would go our way after what happened on Wednesday. All the top managers get away with it, Smith is definitely graduating to the next level
Great point.
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Good stuff defending that corner Mings!
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Doug a bit sluggish on the ball so far. Would've been amazing move if he'd just played it through there.
If you're talking about the bit I think it was about a yard away from being one of the best bits of play I've seen for years, 4-5 1-touch passes in a row and Watkins was away if the last one had beaten the defender.
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Nakamba is very neat and tidy this match.
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We are a little bit casual in attacking areas. Playing too many fancy balls.
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Ollie Watkins is the perfect forward for this system. Works so hard. Just need another forward like him to give him a rest
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Cher gets a yellow card for a foul on Oliie.
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They do realise that you can not be offside if you are behind the ball when it is played,
When Targett put the cross in Ollie looked slightly ahead of him(the defender) I thought at that point he would of been given off? Especially when you look back at the goal he had chalked off at West Ham. I honestly don't know anymore.
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I hope that this isn't going to be a case of 'famous last words' but Mings is playing bloody well tonight.
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Jack's not had much of a look in so far.
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They do realise that you can not be offside if you are behind the ball when it is played,
When Targett put the cross in Ollie looked slightly ahead of him. I thought at that point he would of been given off? Especially when you look back at the goal he had chalked off at West Ham. I honestly don't know anymore.
The final ball came off the defender though.
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Jack's not had much of a look in so far.
He ain’t been on fire for a while now TBH
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Have to win this. This lot are terrible.
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Marvelous has done well.
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Gone sloppy last 10 minutes, someone tell them we're only 1 up.
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We look more menacing but we need to use the ball better. Finding it harder for quicker turn over in the final third without McGinn.
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Jack's not had much of a look in so far.
He ain’t been on fire for a while now TBH
He's hardly had a touch so far.
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They do realise that you can not be offside if you are behind the ball when it is played,
When Targett put the cross in Ollie looked slightly ahead of him. I thought at that point he would of been given off? Especially when you look back at the goal he had chalked off at West Ham. I honestly don't know anymore.
Behind the ball means the 'edge' of the ball closest to the goal so that's where you'd draw the line and from the lines on the grass Watkins looked like he was behind that.
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They do realise that you can not be offside if you are behind the ball when it is played,
When Targett put the cross in Ollie looked slightly ahead of him. I thought at that point he would of been given off? Especially when you look back at the goal he had chalked off at West Ham. I honestly don't know anymore.
The final ball came off the defender though.
I'm talking about when Targett first put the cross in.
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They do realise that you can not be offside if you are behind the ball when it is played,
When Targett put the cross in Ollie looked slightly ahead of him. I thought at that point he would of been given off? Especially when you look back at the goal he had chalked off at West Ham. I honestly don't know anymore.
Behind the ball means the 'edge' of the ball closest to the goal so that's where you'd draw the line and from the lines on the grass Watkins looked like he was behind that.
It doesn't matter. He wasn't 'gaining an advantage' and then the ball came off the last defender.
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We have let them play with the ball way too much in the last few minutes. Newcastle are shit and we need to have ball a lot more.
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Jack's not had much of a look in so far.
He ain’t been on fire for a while now TBH
We haven’t played and he was in fine form before the Covid outbreak!
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Fucking wake up Villa
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Ross is far too stagnant.
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A second before half time puts this lot to bed.
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NU are pants but they are up for it.
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Offside
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We are too casual at the moment They look more up for it, but are shite
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Fuck Ollie offside. Good finish
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Wow. An assistant flag disallowed.
I almost miss those these days.
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No complaints with that one, well off. Shame as a really good finish. We up the tempo a bit and it's easy to cut through them so have to keep the intensity up.
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That showed just how easy it is against this lot. We just need to stay on the front foot against them.
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Damn - good finish too. Unlucky Ollie
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Have to win this. This lot are terrible.
We're making them look better than they are. Far too casual.
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Need to put this lot to the sword and finish them off.
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Celebrated, watched replay instantly- fair decision.
Pretty fair people, fans
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If VAR isn’t going to be fucked off and is here to stay.
How about giving the striker a 30cm offiside allowance ?
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Come on Villa. Sort it out! Only 1 up.
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Yessss!
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Yeessdd
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 2-0
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Foot like a traction engine!
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Come on Villa. Sort it out! Only 1 up.
Cheers Traz!
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Yessssss. Great goal.
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Bert just doesn’t score shit goals
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What. A. Goal.
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Come on Villa. Sort it out! Only 1 up.
Good timing!
Fucking brilliant finish to be fair.
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Absolute scorcher!
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That is one great finish
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Bertrand!
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Wow! This guy had something special about him at times! Get in.
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HE DOES HAVE A RIGHT FOOT!
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His initial play was great, as well as the finish
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Do you think Traore should have hit that a bit harder? Scorchio!
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These lot are absolute shite!
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Bert has had a really excellent first half. Worked hard without the ball and dangerous at the other end
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Bert is really starting to chip in with some goals. YYYEEESSSSS...
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Ooooooooohhh Dougie close
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I'm 54 and Aston Villa are making me tingle again.
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They are all lining up to have a crack at goal now. Lovely stuff.
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Bertie - he might not track back too much, but actually, there’s something about him. A bit of a maverick.
Let’s put these guys to the sword now
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THAT was some sexy fucking play then. What a ball from Boss to Jack.
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Great pass from Jack as well. We could have 4 already here and we haven't got out of first gear.
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I'm 54 and Aston Villa are making me tingle again.
Me too - and I'm 66
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Great second goal. Traore has been excellent. First time Grealish really imposes himself he makes goal.
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I have to say Marv has been very good too
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I have a new found respect for Jamie Carragher.
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I'm 54 and Aston Villa are making me tingle again.
Me too - and I'm 66
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I'm 54 and Aston Villa are making me tingle again.
Hopefully it isn't shingles ;)
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Great second goal. Traore has been excellent. First time Grealish really imposes himself he makes goal.
And moments before he set up Ollie who was slightly off. When he wants it there are few better
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Bertie - he might not track back too much, but actually, there’s something about him. A bit of a maverick.
Let’s put these guys to the sword now
He's a proper luxury player.
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I have not get this good about Villa since that season under O’Neill when we nearly cracked the top 4.
I think it was written at the start of the season - might even have been written by Dave - that as a Villa fan, sometimes you get the feeling that something special is brewing. And I believe it now more than I did pre-season. And I had that feeling then!
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What vision that was from Jack to set up Traore. Not many players in the league would have seen that.
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I'm 54 and Aston Villa are making me tingle again.
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I'm 66 and ditto!
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HT 2-0 nicely done boys
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Newcastle reduced to juggling balls now.
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I have not get this good about Villa since that season under O’Neill when we nearly cracked the top 4.
I think it was written at the start of the season - might even have been written by Dave - that as a Villa fan, sometimes you get the feeling that something special is brewing. And I believe it now.
I agree Chris, and still very early in the project.
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So so easy.
Newcastle are terrible. I feel sorry for them having to put up with Bruceball.
We are playing with the intensity of a training ground kickaround - because there's no need to put any more than that into it.
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We are playing well within ourselves.
But even then, we are such a good team.
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Half time. Great half, and we haven't really got into our top gear yet. We could really funeral these.
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At the risk of putting the mockers on it, Newcastle are absolutely god-awful and are there to be properly battered. Bruce is such a charlatan as a PL manager (very good in the Championship though).
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What vision that was from Jack to set up Traore. Not many players in the league would have seen that.
and then got the weight of the pass so perfect. Great pass, spectacular finish.
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Bertie - he might not track back too much, but actually, there’s something about him. A bit of a maverick.
Let’s put these guys to the sword now
He's a proper luxury player.
And isn't is great that Villa are getting good enough to have and play luxury players.
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So so easy.
Newcastle are terrible. I feel sorry for them having to put up with Bruceball.
We are playing with the intensity of a training ground kickaround - because there's no need to put any more than that into it.
One of those horrible ones. It'll be off wi his head.
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Bertie - he might not track back too much, but actually, there’s something about him. A bit of a maverick.
Let’s put these guys to the sword now
He's a proper luxury player.
I can't remember which manager once said "It is the bad players who are a luxury". I really like Bertie.
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So so easy.
Newcastle are terrible. I feel sorry for them having to put up with Bruceball.
We are playing with the intensity of a training ground kickaround - because there's no need to put any more than that into it.
I don't feel sorry for them!
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Makes my piss boil when i think of the points we have been robbed of.
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I have to say Marv has been very good too
He has done what's been required really well. He's calmer and more assured; admittedly against a poor team.
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At the risk of putting the mockers on it, Newcastle are absolutely god-awful and are there to be properly battered. Bruce is such a charlatan as a PL manager (very good in the Championship though).
We need to get rid of our anxieties of the past. They are shit, and we are rightly and justly battering them.
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Bertie - he might not track back too much, but actually, there’s something about him. A bit of a maverick.
Let’s put these guys to the sword now
He's a proper luxury player.
And isn't is great that Villa are getting good enough to have and play luxury players.
Agree entirely. And with the performance we’ve put in this season so far, we’re going to be able to attract more luxury players too.
Early in the project but there really is a feel good feeling about us at the moment,
Bring on the 2nd half. 4-0 would be great
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Half time, and it's looking very much like every other time a Dean Smith side has met one managed by Steve Bruce.
I fucking love Deano.
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FFS Mings!
Just wanted to post that
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Just solidly, easily, cruising-in-second-gear better than them.
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That second goal has broken them. This could be 5
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So so easy.
Newcastle are terrible. I feel sorry for them having to put up with Bruceball.
We are playing with the intensity of a training ground kickaround - because there's no need to put any more than that into it.
One of those horrible ones. It'll be off wi his head.
I can hear him now in the dressing room "we need to put on wor boots and roll up wor sleeves"
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Let's knock that goal difference up a bit now.
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You guys need to up your game, the analysis is so much better on SHA
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I have to say Marv has been very good too
He has done what's been required really well. He's calmer and more assured; admittedly against a poor team.
[/quotI have to say Marv has been very good too
He has done what's been required really well. He's calmer and more assured; admittedly against a poor team.
I thought he was good last season. Just Luiz is better in his main position.
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Makes my piss boil when i think of the points we have been robbed of.
Same!
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So so easy.
Newcastle are terrible. I feel sorry for them having to put up with Bruceball.
We are playing with the intensity of a training ground kickaround - because there's no need to put any more than that into it.
One of those horrible ones. It'll be off wi his head.
"It was always going to be a tickly one what with all of our illness and injury problems".
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Half time. Great half, and we haven't really got into our top gear yet. We could really funeral these.
I think if we got a third then we should think about resting up the likes of Jack who are in yellow card trouble. Delighted for Watkins, was he offside and interfering with play from Schars touch? Thought Traore was useless until his timber leg cracked in the second off the bar. He is a freak of a player.
Back five have been solid, Nakamba doing his job fine. Was disappointed with Luiz, Barks and Traore up to his goal. Other two look very sharp.
Newcastle are dreadful. Andy Carroll stealing a living up front. Their keeper bottling the challenge for the first.
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Get a few more Villa.
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You guys need to up your game, the analysis is so much better on SHA
Lol
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So so easy.
Newcastle are terrible. I feel sorry for them having to put up with Bruceball.
It looks so much like so many of those shit Villa performances from 2011 - 2017
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That second goal has broken them. This could be 5
Agreed, unless they dust wasselvs down and shut some people up.
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What a bloody goal that was, to quote Tony Gubba, he doesn’t score simple goals does he? Loving this team, loving this season.
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Kelly Cates suggesting that tonight we have benefited from the same rule that did for us at Citeh.
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You guys need to up your game, the analysis is so much better on SHA
Lol
Are we spawny Villa bastards by any chance?
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Makes my piss boil when i think of the points we have been robbed of.
Yep
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Took a look at that Newcastle forum that was linked earlier - they're lamenting how bad their defence is without the calming organisational skills of Ciaran Clark.
Poor fuckers.
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Kelly Cates suggesting that tonight we have benefited from the same rule that did for us at Citeh.
"Worst case scenario" we benefit from that rule
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Kelly Cates suggesting that tonight we have benefited from the same rule that did for us at Citeh.
He was more offside than about 4 of his other disallowed goals.
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Lots to like. I just think from 60 yards out we are the best team to watch in this division. May not win it - or even finish top 6 - but nothing to fear this season and everything to look forward to with an even better upwards trajectory
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So a great Brucie halftime hair dryer and Newcastle come out a different team?
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I quite like that Bert is a placer rather than a blaster when it comes to shooting.
Given how good modern defenders are - you need savvy placement.
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Never thought I would say this, but well done VAR for once, picked up the fact Schar had touched the ball, so Ollie could not be offside. What a strike from that man Bert.
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Next goal very important
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Safe to say the Gawdies are not overly happy with Mr Bruce.
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So a great Brucie halftime hair dryer and Newcastle come out a different team?
Yep, and a half time gobble off Kelly Cates for me.
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We are so bloody good to watch it’s untrue. The passing, the give and go. The most attractive side we’ve had since 1995-96.
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We feel ya pain Geordies
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Lovely finish by Traore with his right foot, which should show (to himself) that he does not need to always be bringing the ball back onto his left.
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Still lots to do for us.
I suspect Saint-Maximin will be on at HT for them.
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Lovely finish by Traore with his right foot, which should show (to himself) that he does not need to always be bringing the ball back onto his left.
I think he was trying to pass it back to Jack ;)
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Safe to say the Gawdies are not overly happy with Mr Bruce.
To be fair though, Newcastle have had a bit of a go, they have had good possession and we have had to defend a lot of crosses.
They are just not very good though.
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Very solid. Good shout to bring in Nakamba I reckon. Dougie has been able to get forward more. Marv has done really well. Claims the ball and just lays it off easy. Only criticism is he doesn’t then move away
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Kelly Cates suggesting that tonight we have benefited from the same rule that did for us at Citeh.
He was more offside than about 4 of his other disallowed goals.
That's what I thought. I really don't understand the offside rule anymore.
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Kelly Cates suggesting that tonight we have benefited from the same rule that did for us at Citeh.
Bollox we have. This was an old fashioned played on against city it was blatant cheating.
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Kelly Cates suggesting that tonight we have benefited from the same rule that did for us at Citeh.
He was more offside than about 4 of his other disallowed goals.
That's what I thought. I really don't understand the offside rule anymore.
he was behind the ball
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When we get our 4th I hope we test the new offside rules.
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Marv has had a great game, especially considering how little football he has played this season.
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We are playing with the intensity of a training ground kickaround - because there's no need to put any more than that into it.
Not now there isn't. Earlier I was a bit concerned one of their hoofs into the box may actually result in a goal. I'd like to see us go up a gear or two and build up a healthy goal difference. I'm sure Watkins wouldn't mind scoring a few more too. Practice makes perfect.
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So a great Brucie halftime hair dryer and Newcastle come out a different team?
Yep, and a half time gobble off Kelly Cates for me.
Both are equally likely ;D
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Google law 11. It's easy really
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I'm a referee. I don't understand them, either.
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OOOOOOHHH fuck me Doug should scored
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Marv has had a great game, especially considering how little football he has played this season.
I agree, has allowed Luiz to get further forward.
Marv has had a great game, especially considering how little football he has played this season.
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Should have been 3. Lovely football.
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Oh Doug! It was easier to score then!
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Oh lads...we play some lovely football. Deserved a goal there
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Love the commentary "Trying to give Newcastle fans some hope, they did come back from 2-0 down. A year ago."
LOLZ
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We are a much, much better football team than this lot. Bruce will be sacked after this game, which I take no pleasure from.
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Our football.....
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That was a lovely move but had Ollie got on the end of it he’d have been offside again. He has to watch the line better
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We are a much, much better football team than this lot. Bruce will be sacked after this game, which I take no pleasure from.
The only reason I wouldn't take any pleasure from that is the thought they might get somebody decent in.
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Bruce looks like he's been locked in a cellar for six months.
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We are a much, much better football team than this lot. Bruce will be sacked after this game, which I take no pleasure from.
The only reason I wouldn't take any pleasure from that is the thought they might get somebody decent in.
Haha
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Time to finish them now. I fancy a Cash screamer.
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Name me a better left back than Targett in the Premier League. As they say on Twitter, I'll wait....
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Is it me or are Newcastle going for the 'fuck it let's get the manager sacked' option?
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Name me a better left back than Targett in the Premier League. As they say on Twitter, I'll wait....
Such a massive turnaround for him.
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Name me a better left back than Targett in the Premier League. As they say on Twitter, I'll wait....
There was a header he won this half in amongst 5 players. Not just been a great LB but he’s been brave also. His all round game has improved so much.
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Were there any half time subs? I spent half time earning some brownie points by doing the washing up.
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Its like watching Dean Smith's Brentford against Steve Bruce's Villa. Wonder if the likes of Kirkland and Carlton Palmer still think we were idiots to get rid of him
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Is it me or are Newcastle going for the 'fuck it let's get the manager sacked' option?
AKA the Whelan Gambit
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Targett has been exceptional this season so far. Surely our most improved player out of a bunch of significantly improved players?
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I am worried with all this passing from Villa - was used to us giving ball away... some kind of sorcery
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I’m getting irrationally nervous here. Need that third
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I can't remember the last time I saw a Villa side with such good movement. I've been wanting us to play like this for years and years. We finally look like a modern team.
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Name me a better left back than Targett in the Premier League. As they say on Twitter, I'll wait....
Such a massive turnaround for him.
I always liked him and thought the stick he got was massively over the top. Still, he has definitely improved this season. He could be our best left back for many years.
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Ezri Konsa is just a sexy, sexy footballer. So little gets past him
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Is it me or are Newcastle going for the 'fuck it let's get the manager sacked' option?
AKA the Whelan Gambit
'Wheelo' could do a job for them.
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Newcastle will get someone sent off here, both CBs on yellows now.
Konsa in cruise control at the back.
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I’m getting irrationally nervous here. Need that third
Don't be daft, I'm so relaxed I'm almost horizontal. I'd take Barkley off in the next 10 mins though, protect him and give Ramsey some minutes.
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I’m getting irrationally nervous here. Need that third
Don't be daft, I'm so relaxed I'm almost horizontal. I'd take Barkley off in the next 10 mins though, protect him and give Ramsey some minutes.
I need one of those slap relays like from the Airplane movie
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As good as we have been, I wish we’d show some fucking killer instinct and batter these.
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
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Jamie Carragher praised Almiron for his pace......and then listed about four of his faults ;D
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Is it me or are Newcastle going for the 'fuck it let's get the manager sacked' option?
AKA the Whelan Gambit
I have to say that made me spit my wine over my laptop. Brilliant
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
I think this is just part of being a Villa fan!
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I don’t think this is exaggerating to say- we look a solidly consistent top 6-8 side now. I think we’ll make the games in hand count and be right up there. A good goal would be to finish higher than MON managed to
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
They'd have to have a touch of the ball to score though, hasn't been one of those for 10 minutes.
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Careless after a load of possession nearly let in Wilson
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
This is me also
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Mings getting complacent is our only danger....
Nakamba does well to cover.
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Mings again thinks he’s Pele.
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
This. I don't think I relaxed against Liverpool till our seventh went in.
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Part of the issue is that Newcastle are just so shit we might get a little complacent and let them back in by something careless. If they just came at us a bit vs parking the bus we’d score a hatful.
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I hope we get a third, because I’m worried Newcastle are going to roll their sleeves up and get their boots on any minute now
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I think Barkley's looking like he needs some minutes, so I'd leave him on. Ramsey for Luiz, mebbe El Ghazi for Grealish, Trez for Traore for the last ten.
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Good battling from Traore.
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
This. I don't think I relaxed against Liverpool till our seventh went in.
It was when the 6th went in I started to relax.
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Come on Villa... make it 3!
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I know Saint Maximin is a good player but the way he’s being highlighted you’d think they are about to bring on Ronaldo to save the day
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
This. I don't think I relaxed against Liverpool till our seventh went in.
In fairness that's more understandable against their front three. Without Saint-Maximin (and God knows what shape he's in post-long-Covid) these have the worst attack in the league after Sheff Utd.
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(https://i.ibb.co/0QY0J5L/IMG-20210123-222058.jpg)
We're only 2 down lads.
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Nakamba looks a different player in this side.
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Targett doing well again
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If only that mid air back heel of Barkley's had gone in it would have been priceless.
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Outraaaaaaageous!
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
This. I don't think I relaxed against Liverpool till our seventh went in.
In fairness that's more understandable against their front three. Without Saint-Maximin (and God knows what shape he's in post-long-Covid) these have the worst attack in the league after Sheff Utd.
Not for me. Caroll and Wilson both light years ahead of any front two Baggies could put out. Agree on Sheffield United. Abominable attack.
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SB just making sure the subs have got their boots on properly.
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(https://i.ibb.co/0QY0J5L/IMG-20210123-222058.jpg)
We're only 2 down lads.
Ding dong.
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Loving Bertie - he aint no Nzogbia
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Defensively we are ok.
Going forward we are bordering on being a little too half arsed.
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I'm getting a bit annoyed that we have not scored another. They are that tainted by Bruce.
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Carroll off for Fraser, Manquillo off for Saint Maximin
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Kelly Cates has let herself go.
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Someone posted on here earlier that Bruce can't make a change until 70 minutes. Spot on!
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Hospital ball by Doug
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Konsa is worth the double price of Mings
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Feeling a bit testimonial at times this.
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Carroll off for Fraser, Manquillo off for Saint Maximin
Then Saint Maximin has to go back off to remove his necklace. That will strike fear into the Villa players.
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Jack FFS!
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Konsa really is superb.
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We could be 4-0 up with two minutes to go and I'd still be nervous.
This. I don't think I relaxed against Liverpool till our seventh went in.
In fairness that's more understandable against their front three. Without Saint-Maximin (and God knows what shape he's in post-long-Covid) these have the worst attack in the league after Sheff Utd.
Not for me. Caroll and Wilson both light years ahead of any front two Baggies could put out. Agree on Sheffield United. Abominable attack.
Fair enough, I had completely forgotten about West Brom. Which is probably for the best. And I was a bit harsh on Wilson as I forgot he played for Newcastle, was focused more on Carroll (who did used to be good, but his day is passed) and Almiron, who I have previously gone on record as identifying as the worst "luxury creative" player in the league (since superceded by Pepe at Arsenal).
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Konsa is worth the double price of Mings
Konsa has the making of being WC.
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Fuck Jack close from a Newcastle error. Should have scored
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Konsa is worth the double price of Mings
Konsa has the making of being WC.
A toilet?
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No swerve on that from Jack. Should have done better
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A change or two would be good. Freshen up some legs
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We're being far too casual
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Ollie Watkins workrate is off the scale.
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.. was focused more on Carroll (who did used to be good, but his day is passed)
You say that, but apart from that one ninety minutes against us - was he?
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Konsa is worth the double price of Mings
Konsa has the making of being WC.
A toilet?
Working Class?
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We're being far too casual
Yes and much too confident. It could still turn out to be one of those horrible ones.
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Sort it the fuck out Villa!
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One of my favourite things about Jack is that you can lip read his accent "Oh my God!".
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Approaching the tickly bit of the game....
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SBT
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We really need to be more clinical in the final third. We should be outta sight by now.
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We’ve not had to get much past third gear.
AEG coming on for Bert I imagine
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There isn’t one player in that Newcastle side I’d let get anywhere near our squad, not one.
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.. was focused more on Carroll (who did used to be good, but his day is passed)
You say that, but apart from that one ninety minutes against us - was he?
Absolutely. When he first came through at Newcastle he had a good touch, workrate and bullied centre-backs for fun. Then he went to Liverpool and whatever might have been, went. Then it turned out his hamstrings made Giggs and Owen look like beasts of physical preparation and that was it.
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It’s hard to imagine a less appropriate sponsor for Newcastle than FUN88 innit?
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Trez also coming
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The difference in our scintillating play in other games is that McGinn is out and Barkley has been quiet.
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AEG for Ross, Trez for Bert
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There isn’t one player in that Newcastle side I’d let get anywhere near our squad, not one.
I'd have Saint-Maximin off them when they go down.
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Trez also coming
Should he really be doing that in a public place?
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Trez is gonna run them ragged
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Little shit Gayle come on :(
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The Ghaz man has arrived to turn up the heat ;)
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Ahh Gayle. He normally scores against us
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Trez also coming
Oooh err
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You can Trez as had the virus. He looks 2 stone lighter
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Dougie has mislaid a few tonight too. Not like him really.
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There isn’t one player in that Newcastle side I’d let get anywhere near our squad, not one.
I'd have Saint-Maximin off them when they go down.
Still a no.
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There isn’t one player in that Newcastle side I’d let get anywhere near our squad, not one.
And to think Callum Wilson chose them over us.
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We are not going to win this ....second half are we? Smith out!
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The Toon* are fucked.
*Students of rhetorical literary devices might be thinking that 'the Toon' is an example of macrocosmic synecdoche whereas I think it is an example of metonymy (where something represents something else that is related to it).
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Matt Cash is just brilliant
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Marv has been excellent. Waited his chance and took it. Fair play to him. Can't be far off motm
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Must not sing Maxi Maxi Min to the tune of Macho Man. Bad luck. Resist.
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There isn’t one player in that Newcastle side I’d let get anywhere near our squad, not one.
And to think Callum Wilson chose them over us.
Not quite Veretout choosing us over Leicester territory but funny nonetheless
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There isn’t one player in that Newcastle side I’d let get anywhere near our squad, not one.
And to think Callum Wilson chose them over us.
If it was a case of Wilson or Watkins then we got far and away the better deal, similar as goal scorers but Watkins brings so much more on top.
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Sir Alf coming on.
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Jacob on for the skipper
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Another game Jack passes on 4 yellows. Excellent.
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Jacks face was superb.
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Jack looks devastated
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Marv has been excellent. Waited his chance and took it. Fair play to him. Can't be far off motm
Considering how comfortable it's been, it's a bit weird that it's probably between him and Konsa for me.
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Jack looks like he's going to cry at being subbed!
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Defensively we are ok.
Going forward we are bordering on being a little too half arsed.
This. I feel sorry for Ollie. Little decent service.
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Jacks face was superb.
Like a smacked arse.
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I love how disappointed Jack looks, I want every player to be that upset when they get subbed.
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Utd fans’ll be expecting Jack to put his transfer request in tomorrow
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I love how disappointed Jack looks, I want every player to be that upset when they get subbed.
Transfer request in the morning! ;)
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Targett MOTM for me.
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Utd fans’ll be expecting Jack to put his transfer request in tomorrow
Ha ha, beat me to it!
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We really haven’t been great tonight.
3 points though.
Am I not the only one who would love to see Barry on the bench next game??????!!!
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Targett has been very good again
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Jacks face was superb.
Think he's one booking from a suspension isn't he?
No doubt the Jack to Manure PR machine is being cranked into life as we speak
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Happy retirement Steve!
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Targett transformation been amazing, nothing getting passed him.
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Targett MOTM for me.
I agree, he's a Rolls Royce of a left back.
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I like the fact that, when Grealish comes off, it's obvious that Mings will take the armband from him.
Nice to have leaders on the pitch.
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Steve Bruce thinking, who shall I blame for this? There's no fans here.
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We really haven’t been great tonight.
3 points though.
Am I not the only one who would love to see Barry on the bench next game??????!!!
We've done what good sides do when they play against shit, we've been totally in control.
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Targett transformation been amazing, nothing getting passed him.
Arguably our best player tonight and there are several candidates for that honour.
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Targett transformation been amazing, nothing getting passed him.
I'd have driven him back to Southampton myself last season. Now, I wouldn't take £70m for him.
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Dougie for me. He's on the verge of greatness.
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I can't recall a more comfortable 3 points, more so than Palace because we hardly broke out of 2nd gear tonight.
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Targett and Konsa have been exceptional, Watkins and Marv very close behind. Bertie and Jack were in and out but gave the flashes of quality we needed to win the game comfortably.
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Ashley won’t sack Bruce, not yet anyway.
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Steve Bruce thinking, who shall I blame for this? There's no fans here.
British rail. British Aiways British steel ...wont be his fault
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Konsa has been brilliant tonight
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Fuck close again
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For all the unjustified shit Villa fans got for not giving Bruce a chance because he used to manage Blues, we were miles more accepting of him than Newcastle fans.
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Jamie Carragher -"Newcastle are becoming a nothing team with nothing performances. The fans don't like the owner, the manager or the team".
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For all the unjustified shit Villa fans got for not giving Bruce a chance because he used to manage Blues, we were miles more accepting of him than Newcastle fans.
I don't recall any of the criticism of McLeish or Bruce being Small Heath related. Unless they themselves played that card for spin.
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Konsa MOTM for me not a foot wrong. It was if Newcastle could see there was no way past him and gave up
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Shout out for Marvelous...assured after so little first team football
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Jamie Carragher -"Newcastle are becoming a nothing team with nothing performances. The fans don't like the owner, the manager or the team".
I really enjoyed Jamie's commentary. He stays away from the usual sound bite crap and really understands the game. I think he'd have Konsa in the England set up at a shot. Hopefully Southgate was listening.
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Jacks face was superb.
Didn't need a 5th yellow card, just needs to negotiate Burnley and Southampton in the next week without one.
Like a smacked arse.
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I nearly changed channels just but then realised we had the Brucie Bonus of his post match excuses/interview.