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Title: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 04, 2021, 12:52:29 PM
For the 64th year running its our year.  Mad to think our annual trip to Wembley would have to be in the FA Cup this year.

We'll make a few changes, they'll make a lot more.  Lets go wild and predict 2-1 Villa.  Watkins and Jack.  Origi for them.
Title: Aston Villa v Liverpool FA Cup 3rd Pre-Match Thread - Friday, Jan 8th at 7.45pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 04, 2021, 01:24:13 PM
There will be a lot of rotation on both sides. Liverpool will have a good line up with more kids than us I assume. But it's hard to tell how this ends up. But I'll go 2-1 us.

HEATON, GUILBERT, ENGELS, HAUSE, TAYLOR, NAKAMBA, ELMO, HOURIHANE, AEG, RAMSEY, DAVIS

SUBS; STEER, JACK, BARRY, WATKINS, KONSA, TARGETT, MCGINN, LANSBURY, BERT

Hopefully there will be other academy players on the bench
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool FA Cup 3rd Pre-Match Thread - Friday, Jan 8th at 7.45pm
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 04, 2021, 01:29:01 PM
I would put Barkley in for this to build up his match fitness - if of course he has not really had a leg amputated all this time and they are waiting for a new one to grow back

I would certainly play the same formation but with different players - would also take the opportunity to play some kids from the off - why waste a shirt on the likes of Lansbury

Is this on TV?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 04, 2021, 01:36:00 PM

Is this on TV?

Yes.  BT Sport.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: WarszaVillan on January 04, 2021, 01:39:22 PM
Do we have to change the whole team? I can see the sense in  a few changes, but I'd really like us to win the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 04, 2021, 01:43:52 PM
The fact that if we do well in this competition we are unlikely to be able to attend the climax is weighing heavily on my attitude towards this game. It shouldn't I know but there we are.

Changes all 'round diminishing the tie, like so many others will be this weekend. Perhaps we will prevail.

1-0

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 04, 2021, 01:56:02 PM
I'd hope that winning it this season doesn't preclude us from doing so again for yet another 64 seasons!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 04, 2021, 02:00:57 PM
I think Dean will change the whole team. I don't agree with this approach and would like to see our strongest team out, even with the challenging league fixtures on the horizon. At the very least I would like Jack to be on the bench so we can bring him on if needs be.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on January 04, 2021, 02:02:10 PM
The only change I would like to see is Heaton in goal, only chance of glory is realisticly the FA cup and like most of the fans I am yet to see us lift the cup. So play a strong team please and put the bindippers out the cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on January 04, 2021, 02:08:42 PM
a clean sheet please Villa

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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 04, 2021, 02:14:55 PM
I think they'll put out a decent side, they've not got a game until Sunday the week after.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 04, 2021, 02:29:02 PM
The fact that if we do well in this competition we are unlikely to be able to attend the climax is weighing heavily on my attitude towards this game. It shouldn't I know but there we are.

Changes all 'round diminishing the tie, like so many others will be this weekend. Perhaps we will prevail.

1-0

Winning the Double without being able to watch. Typical Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 04, 2021, 02:46:39 PM
I'd rest Jack, SJM and Watkins who in particular was out of it at end of Man. United game, second best to many 50/50s.

Play all the other key players though so Doug, Konsa, Mings, Cash all start. Heaton will probably get a start aswell.

That should be good enough given the squad players have shown they can be trusted this season when called upon so they can give Liverpool b team a game.

Probably a good one for Jacob Ramsey to start to build on his promising cameos. Would love Barkley to return aswell but seems another game he won't even be making the bench judging by latest DS comments.

3-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 04, 2021, 02:48:45 PM
I can see us winning this 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 04, 2021, 02:50:03 PM
I think they'll put out a decent side, they've not got a game until Sunday the week after.

Their team in last two years in third round against decent prem opposition:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50976228

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46718633

They are playing tonight so 72 hours less recovery time.

No chance Klopp will risk any serious defenders v us as they've hardly any left as it is and need someone like Fabiano v Man. United. They'll rest their front 3 aswell like in previous years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Allan C on January 04, 2021, 04:11:09 PM
I think we’ll eventually win on penalties after a 1-1 in normal/extra time. It may not be a popular view but I would rest the entire first team for this and play all of the usual reserves and young players. I actually wouldn’t have Jack or Ollie on the bench and possibly a few others either, I want to win it but I won’t shed many tears if we go out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 04, 2021, 04:16:48 PM
I want us to win this thing and this year we have the look of a team who might have an extended run in the competition. As Dean is a fan he knows that this trophy is most desired by the older fans.  I think he'll have this in  mind with the team he picks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 04, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
Unless there's anybody who is particularly fatigued, I'd play our strongest possible team. We've shown we can beat anybody on our day this season and we stand a real chance in the cup if we take it seriously throughout. With the game being on the Friday night we have a reasonable amount of rest before the Spurs game on the Wednesday.

If we play our strongest team we'll probably beat their shadow side. If we rest key players we probably won't beat their shadow side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 04, 2021, 04:35:59 PM
0-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 04, 2021, 05:47:59 PM
Is Trez back? The type of game where he'd nick a goal. Resume his ghosting in at the back stick shtick that El Ghazi has been emulating.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 04, 2021, 05:50:05 PM
Is Trez back? The type of game where he'd nick a goal. Resume his ghosting in at the back stick shtick that El Ghazi has been emulating.

I don't think there's been much of an update of late, but Smith said "several weeks" when it happened, so I'm pretty sure he won't be.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 04, 2021, 06:00:03 PM
Dean's injury updates are so lame/bogus that he must be doing it to try and keep the opposition guessing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on January 04, 2021, 06:56:13 PM
My Liverpool mate (ST holder) said Klopp will play fringe players, guaranteed.

We’ve got so many games coming up, we will probably have to do the same.

Anyway, it’s definitely our year this year. Seeing as we won’t be able to go, I reckon we’ll win it, no problem.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 04, 2021, 06:57:41 PM
Dean's injury updates are so lame/bogus that he must be doing it to try and keep the opposition guessing.

I hope so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 04, 2021, 07:36:44 PM
The fact that if we do well in this competition we are unlikely to be able to attend the climax is weighing heavily on my attitude towards this game. It shouldn't I know but there we are.

Changes all 'round diminishing the tie, like so many others will be this weekend. Perhaps we will prevail.

1-0

Winning the Double without being able to watch. Typical Villa.

Not one person witnessed both the game where we won the league and the game where we won the cup in 1897.

https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=61489.0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 04, 2021, 07:57:49 PM
They're playing Fabinho and Henderson as center backs tonight.

Wouldn't surprise me if they go all out kids again on Friday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 04, 2021, 08:00:51 PM
We should be nervous though Curtis Jones is the best player in the world....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool FA Cup 3rd Pre-Match Thread - Friday, Jan 8th at 7.45pm
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 04, 2021, 10:12:50 PM
There will be a lot of rotation on both sides. Liverpool will have a good line up with more kids than us I assume. But it's hard to tell how this ends up. But I'll go 2-1 us.

HEATON, GUILBERT, ENGELS, HAUSE, TAYLOR, NAKAMBA, ELMO, HOURIHANE, AEG, RAMSEY, DAVIS

SUBS; STEER, JACK, BARRY, WATKINS, KONSA, TARGETT, MCGINN, LANSBURY, BERT

Hopefully there will be other academy players on the bench

I think this is a good shout in terms of the team a smith will pick. Some of the players look a bit jaded, Watkins mainly. I’d also be a bit worried about some others burning out, grealish, McGinn, the full backs who have more or less played every game.
But, like all of us I’d love us to have an fa cup run, the idea of Jack being our captain and smith being our manager in a FA cup final, is something special.
I was generally gutted when we drew Liverpool as I think smith will play largely his second string and I don’t think our second string are good enough to beat Liverpool’s second string.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 04, 2021, 10:16:16 PM
I hope Liverpool play their first team!  The way they are playing of late, an out of sorts, over-playing Arsenal morph of a team, we will be firm favourites.  If they play their fringe team, I think they stand a better chance!  They really look out of sorts just lately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 04, 2021, 10:40:00 PM
They're playing Fabinho and Henderson as center backs tonight.

Wouldn't surprise me if they go all out kids again on Friday.

Their kids at CB are a long way off the required standard. I'd rest McGinn and Jack but maybe everyone else should be first choice.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 05, 2021, 12:06:17 AM
I hope Liverpool play their first team!  The way they are playing of late, an out of sorts, over-playing Arsenal morph of a team, we will be firm favourites.  If they play their fringe team, I think they stand a better chance!  They really look out of sorts just lately.

After today there is no chance whatsoever they are playing anything like a first team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on January 05, 2021, 01:39:28 AM
I'd like to see Engels get a game if only to prove he's not keeping a couple of concrete blocks company at the bottom of the Fazeley cut.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave17 on January 05, 2021, 03:13:52 AM
Win. And win the cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on January 05, 2021, 07:29:50 AM
I suspect wholesale changes but I'd like to see a half and half side

Somehting like

Heaton
Elmo - Konsa - Hause - Targett
McGinn- Nakamba
Anwar - Ramsey - Grealish
Watkins

With Barkley getting some minutes if back
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 05, 2021, 07:35:30 AM
I have been fortunate enough to see Villa win the League, European Cup, etc. but the 1 trophy I would love us to win is the FA Cup (even if we have to watch the game from our living rooms)

Villa to win 2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 05, 2021, 09:24:40 AM
We shouldn't really fear anyone in this competition and would like to see us play a full team on Friday night.  Given the congested fixture list in the rest of the month though, I think we will see a lot of changes.

There are a number of players that need a game as well. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 05, 2021, 11:11:22 AM
As strong a team as possible with big Emi in goal (in case it goes to penalties).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 05, 2021, 11:27:35 AM
Please can we just play a full first team? We stand a really good chance of doing well in this cup if we take it seriously. I'd say we'd be about 5th favourites if we treated these games as our most important fixtures. If we're 3-0 up against Liverpool reserves then we can take off Grealish/Watkins etc. at that point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 05, 2021, 11:34:52 AM
Start with the team that started against United and then make 1 or 2 changes only. Maybe Ramsey for Traore with Ramsey played in the number 10 position and Jack and El Ghazi in the wide positions. Traore needs to improve his defensive side of the game like we're seeing from El Ghazi recently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 05, 2021, 12:07:38 PM
5 substitutes allowed, and a sixth if it goes to extra time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 05, 2021, 12:22:23 PM
We need to rest players , SJM has played every minute, Jack should be on the bench, Ollie looks tired.
Heaton
Elmo Hause Mings Taylor
Marvelous Hourihane
Traore Davis AEG
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 05, 2021, 12:44:57 PM
 I, like many others, will be disappointed if our second string go out with a whimper to Liverpool's second string. However, I also recognise that a lot of players have played a lot of games and a rest may be in order. Genuine question here, if we do play a full strength team on Friday would people be OK with players being rested for league games? If so, how do you decide which league games to rest players for? Do you rotate it? Jack rests one game, SJM the next, Ollie the next etc. It is a bit of a conundrum so I can understand why wholesale changes get made in the cup. Won't make me any happier if it looks like we chuck it on Friday though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: levico on January 05, 2021, 12:49:37 PM
Struggling to work up any enthusiasm for this tie particularly as Deano will field a second stream.

Hope for the best but maybe an early exit with dignity might be a better solution
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 05, 2021, 01:06:23 PM
I've just seen Klopp's ridiculous comments about last nights game so I've changed my mind.

Play a full team and hammer them into the middle of next week. That'll give the Bingo lookalike something to moan about.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 05, 2021, 01:08:11 PM
I've just seen Klopp's ridiculous comments about last nights game so I've changed my mind.

Play a full team and hammer them into the middle of next week. That'll give the Bingo lookalike something to moan about.

I was wondering what you meant, then thought of the Banana Splits. A quick check shows it to be a brilliant comparison.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on January 05, 2021, 01:11:36 PM
What a huge cliche this sentiment is but I would be excited to see Barry Jr. get a run-out at some point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 05, 2021, 01:27:59 PM
I've just seen Klopp's ridiculous comments about last nights game so I've changed my mind.

Play a full team and hammer them into the middle of next week. That'll give the Bingo lookalike something to moan about.

I was wondering what you meant, then thought of the Banana Splits. A quick check shows it to be a brilliant comparison.

I worked with a lad known as 'Bingo' due to his surname, but he did actually look like the character too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 05, 2021, 01:39:00 PM
All I remember is how crap our B team was against Stoke in the league cup.
I hope we go serious and go strong.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 05, 2021, 01:56:21 PM
All I remember is how crap our B team was against Stoke in the league cup.
I hope we go serious and go strong.

Can Lansbury come back into the reckoning for a cup game ? As long as Elmo isn't centre back again that would be an improvement...and sorry Henri but anyone else in midfield too
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 05, 2021, 02:06:45 PM
For the first time in ages we've got a team that has all the characteristics of a cup winning side. We can beat anybody on our day. Get through this round and the rest will take care of itself.

1-0 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 05, 2021, 03:38:55 PM
I'd play Heaton but otherwise a full strength team.

I know it's sacrilege to some but I generally favour putting the league before the cups if you're in a relegation, promotion or title scrap.  But now we're all but safe this season I can't see why we wouldn't go all out to win a trophy, particularly in a season like this when we surely have a realistic chance?   

If not now, then when?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 05, 2021, 03:53:19 PM
FIFA 21 predicts we beat Albion 1-0 in the FA Cup Final - Trez in the 93rd minute after Sam Johnstone saves a first half penalty. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 05, 2021, 04:32:20 PM
I'd play Heaton but otherwise a full strength team.

I know it's sacrilege to some but I generally favour putting the league before the cups if you're in a relegation, promotion or title scrap.  But now we're all but safe this season I can't see why we wouldn't go all out to win a trophy, particularly in a season like this when we surely have a realistic chance?   

If not now, then when?

See win a title scrap now.... 😉

I'd just like us to win the Cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robleflaneur on January 05, 2021, 04:59:43 PM
I, like many others, will be disappointed if our second string go out with a whimper to Liverpool's second string. However, I also recognise that a lot of players have played a lot of games and a rest may be in order. Genuine question here, if we do play a full strength team on Friday would people be OK with players being rested for league games? If so, how do you decide which league games to rest players for? Do you rotate it? Jack rests one game, SJM the next, Ollie the next etc. It is a bit of a conundrum so I can understand why wholesale changes get made in the cup. Won't make me any happier if it looks like we chuck it on Friday though.
Full strength team please.We're not going to get relegated.Probably a better chance of winning the Cup than getting into the Champions League.If some players need resting,rotate for a league game.Most of the top six have either extra European fixtures or a League Cup semi or final to play.Let's be different and prioritise the Cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 05, 2021, 05:04:26 PM
I'd just like us to win the Cup.

Absolutely. It used to make my blood boil when I saw Villa fans saying they wanted to reach the final. Maybe they enjoyed the big day out but for me I'd rather lose in the semi-final than have a big day out and lose in the final. I'm still trying to get over losing to Arsenal and I didn't even go to the game, I watched it in a bloody bar with my extended family in Tavira.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 05, 2021, 05:14:25 PM
What a huge cliche this sentiment is but I would be excited to see Barry Jr. get a run-out at some point.

Bannan? He never pushed on tbh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 05, 2021, 05:43:53 PM
I'd just like us to win the Cup.

Absolutely. It used to make my blood boil when I saw Villa fans saying they wanted to reach the final. Maybe they enjoyed the big day out but for me I'd rather lose in the semi-final than have a big day out and lose in the final. I'm still trying to get over losing to Arsenal and I didn't even go to the game, I watched it in a bloody bar with my extended family in Tavira.

I was absolutely written off at that final, can barely remember the journey there (I know im a dickhead and a genius), a few days ago  the highlights appeared on the old facebook and that was the first time I'd actually seen back what happened. I know it was 0-3 at the time and it would've made no difference but those 2 penalty decisions against Gabby and Jack were horrendous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on January 05, 2021, 05:50:19 PM
I've just seen Klopp's ridiculous comments about last nights game so I've changed my mind.

Play a full team and hammer them into the middle of next week. That'll give the Bingo lookalike something to moan about.

I was wondering what you meant, then thought of the Banana Splits. A quick check shows it to be a brilliant comparison.

Bingo is a great comparision :)

my Middlesbrough supporting  mate calls Klopp Klippty...and reckons he shares his massively white teeth with Firmino as he says you never see them ever smile together lol

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The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 05, 2021, 05:57:23 PM
I'd just like us to win the Cup.

Absolutely. It used to make my blood boil when I saw Villa fans saying they wanted to reach the final. Maybe they enjoyed the big day out but for me I'd rather lose in the semi-final than have a big day out and lose in the final. I'm still trying to get over losing to Arsenal and I didn't even go to the game, I watched it in a bloody bar with my extended family in Tavira.

I was absolutely written off at that final, can barely remember the journey there (I know im a dickhead and a genius), a few days ago  the highlights appeared on the old facebook and that was the first time I'd actually seen back what happened. I know it was 0-3 at the time and it would've made no difference but those 2 penalty decisions against Gabby and Jack were horrendous.

I travelled down excited for the game only to realise I had fake tickets. Ended up in a boozer in Central London surrounded by Arsenal fans.

All I've wanted to see is the FA Cup. I'd die happy if that happened.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 05, 2021, 06:24:47 PM
I'd just like us to win the Cup.

Absolutely. It used to make my blood boil when I saw Villa fans saying they wanted to reach the final. Maybe they enjoyed the big day out but for me I'd rather lose in the semi-final than have a big day out and lose in the final. I'm still trying to get over losing to Arsenal and I didn't even go to the game, I watched it in a bloody bar with my extended family in Tavira.

Same here. I spent a lot of money getting a ticket for and travel to the game which seemed less and less of a good idea as our and Arsenal's form went in opposite directions leading up to the final. Had a bad bout of AILS (Alcohol Induced Lachrymosity Syndrome) in Club Wembley after the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 05, 2021, 06:44:16 PM
All I remember is how crap our B team was against Stoke in the league cup.
I hope we go serious and go strong.

Can Lansbury come back into the reckoning for a cup game ? As long as Elmo isn't centre back again that would be an improvement...and sorry Henri but anyone else in midfield too

Lansbury's contract was terminated in October I thought?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 05, 2021, 06:46:46 PM
All I remember is how crap our B team was against Stoke in the league cup.
I hope we go serious and go strong.

Can Lansbury come back into the reckoning for a cup game ? As long as Elmo isn't centre back again that would be an improvement...and sorry Henri but anyone else in midfield too

Lansbury's contract was terminated in October I thought?

If only that were true. Still on our books according to t'internet. Will be hugely pissed off if he gets a look in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 05, 2021, 08:15:26 PM
For a lot of the FA cup is our holy grail.   Taking off my claret and blue specs we will not finish top 4   This is our big opportunity
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 05, 2021, 08:57:44 PM
The idea of not being excited and apprehensive in the build up to a 3rd against Liverpool feels a bit odd. But I think smith will pick his second string and we’ll go out with a bit of a wimpier. I really hope I’m wrong and agree with all the comments about picking a strong team.
Out of the reserves, I’d give Heaton, Elmo, Ramsey and Hause a run out and that’s it in terms of starting the match
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 05, 2021, 09:04:35 PM
I don't think there will be many changes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 05, 2021, 10:56:03 PM
I want us to name the very best side we can and to take this cup seriously.  It's about time we won a proper trophy again, especially the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 06, 2021, 12:41:17 AM
If Liverpool put out a side similar the one they played in last year's cup, our reserves should be good enough to win. Would definitely rest McGinn, Grealish and Watkins, but have all three on the bench in case we need them.

Expect it to be something like...

Heaton

Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Taylor

Elmo
Hourihane
Nakamba
Ramsey
Traore

Davis

Subs: Steer, Targett, Konsa, Luiz, El Ghazi, McGinn, Grealish, Barry, Watkins

Possibly Barkley/Trezeguet involved if back from injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on January 06, 2021, 12:46:25 AM
There is absolutely no reason to play a weakened side in this, it’ll have been a week since we played and then we have 5 days before we play again....go as strong as possible & get on that run to Wembley.


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 06, 2021, 12:50:27 AM
Watkins looked knackered against Man U. If anything happens to either him or Grealish we won't be winning the cup, and can give up finishing high up the league, too. For team spirit it is also vital to use squad players occasionally. Some of them will be vital in the long run.

If the players I've listed aren't good enough to beat a bunch of kids, they should be sold en masse. Save the vital players for tougher opponents.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 06, 2021, 08:32:17 AM
We don't know if Klopp will field a second string though. After the Southampton defeat on Monday he sounded in the mood for revenge at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 06, 2021, 09:22:39 AM
If Liverpool put out a side similar the one they played in last year's cup, our reserves should be good enough to win. Would definitely rest McGinn, Grealish and Watkins, but have all three on the bench in case we need them.

Expect it to be something like...

Heaton

Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Taylor

Elmo
Hourihane
Nakamba
Ramsey
Traore

Davis

Subs: Steer, Targett, Konsa, Luiz, El Ghazi, McGinn, Grealish, Barry, Watkins

Possibly Barkley/Trezeguet involved if back from injury.
That is a shocking team, if it's anything like that I'll be fuming, and I don't get as misty eyed about the cup as some do on here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 06, 2021, 09:29:39 AM
Watkins looked knackered against Man U. If anything happens to either him or Grealish we won't be winning the cup, and can give up finishing high up the league, too. For team spirit it is also vital to use squad players occasionally. Some of them will be vital in the long run.

If the players I've listed aren't good enough to beat a bunch of kids, they should be sold en masse. Save the vital players for tougher opponents.

I think the club would love to sell most of those en masse if there was any chance of getting replacements in.  I'd think the only ones with any medium - long term future with us are Heaton (as No2), Ramsey and Traore.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Martin Carruthers on January 06, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
Be surprised if Heaton hangs around for long as a number 2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 06, 2021, 11:41:26 AM
Liverpool are already playing  second string due to injuries, form and fatigue.
We need to give Jack SJM Ollie. a rest as cdb says we won’t be doing anything if We are struck by injuries and fatigue. We also need to get some squad players game time.
Pack the bench if we need to change the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 06, 2021, 12:41:59 PM
Tough call this, as there may be an opportunity to rest a few, if we assume Liverpool will be doing the same. Two things for me though with Smith: 1) he’s a Villa fan and won’t have seen us lift the FA cup; 2) he says that he sets out to win every game. On point 2, we can probably afford to rest a few, but not too many, if we’re seriously intending to win the match.

Who to leave out though and who to bring in? It’s hard to guess. I think Watkins could use a rest to recuperate. Does Keinan get a start? Davis scores never, but Watkins despite his best endeavours hasn’t been scoring either recently, but we’ve still been doing OK results-wise, so maybe not a huge gamble.

I don’t see the pint really in bringing Heaton in for this. Martinez is doing fine and Heaton’s been out for ages. Only way back for Heaton I see is if god forbid Martinez gets injured.

Kinda hoping Barkley is closer than they’re making out and he surprises us with a return. I reckon he’ll start a pretty strong side and know we can have an extra sub to change it up if necessary. Then again, I’m usually proved wrong so expect to see wholesale changes.

Still trying to decide whether to watch it with a Liverpool supporting fella I’ve got friendly with recently who has been going through a tough time with his mental health. Not sure I’ll be a big help to him for this one!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 06, 2021, 12:46:04 PM
I think he'll make big changes. Hause, Guilbert, Nakamba, Davis all in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 06, 2021, 01:00:48 PM
If Liverpool put out a side similar the one they played in last year's cup, our reserves should be good enough to win. Would definitely rest McGinn, Grealish and Watkins, but have all three on the bench in case we need them.

Expect it to be something like...

Heaton

Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Taylor

Elmo
Hourihane
Nakamba
Ramsey
Traore

Davis

Subs: Steer, Targett, Konsa, Luiz, El Ghazi, McGinn, Grealish, Barry, Watkins

Possibly Barkley/Trezeguet involved if back from injury.
That is a shocking team, if it's anything like that I'll be fuming, and I don't get as misty eyed about the cup as some do on here.

Fume away. It's about as good as the team that beat them 5-0 last year. It would be madness not to take the chance to rest players with three successive huge matches afterwards.

I want us to win the cup, too. As part of a Double. Let's not jeopardise our chances of the title by knackering the team in a match against a bunch of kids/reserves.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on January 06, 2021, 01:51:27 PM
I agree with you - and wonder how the team you list would fare in the championship?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on January 06, 2021, 02:38:21 PM
If Liverpool put out a side similar the one they played in last year's cup, our reserves should be good enough to win. Would definitely rest McGinn, Grealish and Watkins, but have all three on the bench in case we need them.

Expect it to be something like...

Heaton

Guilbert
Engels
Hause
Taylor

Elmo
Hourihane
Nakamba
Ramsey
Traore

Davis

Subs: Steer, Targett, Konsa, Luiz, El Ghazi, McGinn, Grealish, Barry, Watkins

Possibly Barkley/Trezeguet involved if back from injury.
That is a shocking team, if it's anything like that I'll be fuming, and I don't get as misty eyed about the cup as some do on here.

Fume away. It's about as good as the team that beat them 5-0 last year. It would be madness not to take the chance to rest players with three successive huge matches afterwards.

I want us to win the cup, too. As part of a Double. Let's not jeopardise our chances of the title by knackering the team in a match against a bunch of kids/reserves.

That's the team I would play too. We have 2 games a week after this through to the first weekend of February. A few players in risk of suspension with multiple bookings as well.

We don't want to end up in a MO'N situation where the main 13 players are all exhausted come March and the reserves have got hardly any game time. Good chance the fully utilise the squad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 06, 2021, 03:04:51 PM
Equally though there's no point in making changes for change sake. If there are players who are showing no sign of fatigue, they should still play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 06, 2021, 05:52:24 PM
But fatigue doesn't work like that, does it? If they're not showing signs now it doesn't mean that they might not later because of taking part in this game, the first in a run of (possibly) two games per week for the next nine weeks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on January 06, 2021, 06:12:48 PM
Given a choice which one would you take

Win the FA Cup
Finish in a Europa spot (5th)

the answer to that question probably affects which team you think we should put out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on January 06, 2021, 06:19:48 PM
Yes we could win the cup but I would prefer to keep the momentum going in the league after such a good start and change in how we play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 06, 2021, 06:20:02 PM
But fatigue doesn't work like that, does it? If they're not showing signs now it doesn't me that they might not later because of taking part in this game, the first in a run of (possibly) two games per week for the next nine weeks.

I wasn't really impressed with Smith's "I've never seen a footballer carried off with exhaustion" line. Seemed like something one of the old school arsehole managers would say, and reminded me of Gregory's "What's he got to be depressed about" comment. They're elite athletes, and I would think a 10% drop in performance would affect the player and team quite a bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 06, 2021, 06:30:32 PM
Playing has to be better than training. If they're getting tired, ease up at Bodymoor on the hill climbing or whatever the newfangled equivalent is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 06, 2021, 06:44:16 PM
But fatigue doesn't work like that, does it? If they're not showing signs now it doesn't me that they might not later because of taking part in this game, the first in a run of (possibly) two games per week for the next nine weeks.

I wasn't really impressed with Smith's "I've never seen a footballer carried off with exhaustion" line. Seemed like something one of the old school arsehole managers would say, and reminded me of Gregory's "What's he got to be depressed about" comment. They're elite athletes, and I would think a 10% drop in performance would affect the player and team quite a bit.

He's right though, and you don't often hear about players complaining they are playing too much.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 06, 2021, 08:20:17 PM
The only one I can think of currently who looks like he needs a rest is Watkins and previously SJM after the Scotland internationals when they qualified. As I recall Grealish also looked a bit tired when he came back from the England games. Apart from that, I can’t recall any others. If the first choice players for this one are fit and are keen to play then they should. Maybe if any of them have any niggles then yes leave them out and rest Ollie, but other than that, let’s going all out to get through to the 4th round. If we can get rid of Liverpool at this stage, that’s one of the main contenders we don’t have to worry about in the latter stages. We’re a very good chance for the cup this year, as we’ve shown we can beat the best sides in the land.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 06, 2021, 08:28:21 PM
But fatigue doesn't work like that, does it? If they're not showing signs now it doesn't me that they might not later because of taking part in this game, the first in a run of (possibly) two games per week for the next nine weeks.

I wasn't really impressed with Smith's "I've never seen a footballer carried off with exhaustion" line. Seemed like something one of the old school arsehole managers would say, and reminded me of Gregory's "What's he got to be depressed about" comment. They're elite athletes, and I would think a 10% drop in performance would affect the player and team quite a bit.

He's right though, and you don't often hear about players complaining they are playing too much.

So the only time a player should be rested is when they're physically too exhausted to play?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 06, 2021, 08:47:24 PM
We have an excellent performance analyst team who monitor all the players throughout the week. They will be well aware of who needs a rest and who is fir to play. I expect a strong line up with some key players rested, ollie and jack to be two of them on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 06, 2021, 09:32:07 PM
We have an excellent performance analyst team who monitor all the players throughout the week. They will be well aware of who needs a rest and who is fir to play. I expect a strong line up with some key players rested, ollie and jack to be two of them on the bench.

You saved me a post :). Yes, we've got sports scientists as well as a performance director who will have a number of metrics they monitor and know what's happening to individuals. Analysts talk about entering the red zone when a player is showing signs of fatigue. By the time we play Liverpool it will be almost a week since they've played. We've got the youngest average age in the league and some of our players are some of the best athletes in the league. We don't have to change the whole 11. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 06, 2021, 09:56:31 PM
Given a choice which one would you take

Win the FA Cup
Finish in a Europa spot (5th)

the answer to that question probably affects which team you think we should put out
FA cup but 4th ...


I don’t think it is that simple, we will need our best players deeper in the competition so I think you have to think about the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 06, 2021, 11:21:42 PM
But fatigue doesn't work like that, does it? If they're not showing signs now it doesn't me that they might not later because of taking part in this game, the first in a run of (possibly) two games per week for the next nine weeks.

I wasn't really impressed with Smith's "I've never seen a footballer carried off with exhaustion" line. Seemed like something one of the old school arsehole managers would say, and reminded me of Gregory's "What's he got to be depressed about" comment. They're elite athletes, and I would think a 10% drop in performance would affect the player and team quite a bit.

He's right though, and you don't often hear about players complaining they are playing too much.

So the only time a player should be rested is when they're physically too exhausted to play?

He also qualifies what he says by saying he consults the sports scientists and physios. I think it’s a collective effort. We will definitely see changes for Friday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 07, 2021, 12:03:44 AM
But fatigue doesn't work like that, does it? If they're not showing signs now it doesn't me that they might not later because of taking part in this game, the first in a run of (possibly) two games per week for the next nine weeks.

I wasn't really impressed with Smith's "I've never seen a footballer carried off with exhaustion" line. Seemed like something one of the old school arsehole managers would say, and reminded me of Gregory's "What's he got to be depressed about" comment. They're elite athletes, and I would think a 10% drop in performance would affect the player and team quite a bit.

He's right though, and you don't often hear about players complaining they are playing too much.

So the only time a player should be rested is when they're physically too exhausted to play?

No, only when the vet has the gun ready.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 07, 2021, 12:40:30 AM
Play as many of the first team as possible. Momentum is massive to team mentality. They have a 5 day break after this game. And they can relax and regenerate over the weekend and early next week. Maybe even give Barkley a 30 minute work out .....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2021, 12:46:20 AM
Play as many of the first team as possible. Momentum is massive to team mentality.

Remember what happened after we lost in the League Cup?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 07, 2021, 03:55:11 AM
I remember it well Dave. But we cannot use what happened then as a template. We are in a completely different place now, with ambitious owners and a much stronger first team. Along with being at the beginning of a transfer window. We have just had a full week of recovery and i am sure the coaching and medical stats team can monitor and determine if anyone needs resting. But only 15 games i am sure most players would rather play a competitive match than just train for 10 days. Lets go get them .......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on January 07, 2021, 08:23:35 AM
He will play a weak team and I doubt we will rest too many 3 or 4 and when we do that this year it isn't like dropping off a cliff facr. Maybe some re-organisation - Fred in, maybe Heaton and Trez in for AEG or Bert.

Villa comfortable win. 2 up at HT and 3-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on January 07, 2021, 08:45:08 AM
We are likely to get enforced breaks due to covid, so let’s go for it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tim on January 07, 2021, 08:51:19 AM
I can't help but feel Villa will be "concentrating on the league" after this one...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 07, 2021, 10:16:09 AM
Given a choice which one would you take

Win the FA Cup
Finish in a Europa spot (5th)

the answer to that question probably affects which team you think we should put out


If you win the cup, you get both
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Big Ming on January 07, 2021, 10:51:02 AM
Play as many of the first team as possible. Momentum is massive to team mentality. They have a 5 day break after this game. And they can relax and regenerate over the weekend and early next week. Maybe even give Barkley a 30 minute work out .....
Not forgetting the full seven day break we have just enjoyed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 07, 2021, 10:57:34 AM
Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash

Luiz
McGinn
Barkley

Grealish
Watkins
El Ghazi

They've had 7 days off, Liverpool will be strengthening their side by playing the reserves, lets win the fucking thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 07, 2021, 11:11:46 AM
I remember it well Dave. But we cannot use what happened then as a template. We are in a completely different place now, with ambitious owners and a much stronger first team. Along with being at the beginning of a transfer window. We have just had a full week of recovery and i am sure the coaching and medical stats team can monitor and determine if anyone needs resting. But only 15 games i am sure most players would rather play a competitive match than just train for 10 days. Lets go get them .......

It was the start of the season, hardly in a different age. Same owners, same squad, same manager. This idea of 'momentum' gets rolled out every time we lose a cup game and it never makes the slightest bit of difference. Twelve months ago a Wembley final was a distraction, our two best runs under Steve Bruce came after losing in the cups.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 07, 2021, 11:49:08 AM
I remember it well Dave. But we cannot use what happened then as a template. We are in a completely different place now, with ambitious owners and a much stronger first team. Along with being at the beginning of a transfer window. We have just had a full week of recovery and i am sure the coaching and medical stats team can monitor and determine if anyone needs resting. But only 15 games i am sure most players would rather play a competitive match than just train for 10 days. Lets go get them .......

It was the start of the season, hardly in a different age. Same owners, same squad, same manager. This idea of 'momentum' gets rolled out every time we lose a cup game and it never makes the slightest bit of difference. Twelve months ago a Wembley final was a distraction, our two best runs under Steve Bruce came after losing in the cups.

If anything, winning well against a decent team seems to have given us the very opposite of momentum for the most part this season! We're just inconsistent this year. Good to very good in some games, decnt in others. All a massive improvement on last season when we were consistently dreadful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 07, 2021, 01:54:38 PM
We've only really been under-par for a few halves this season (Sheffield United, Southampton, Leeds and Brighton) and the only one we deserved to lose (and even then we had good chances) was Leedz. Away from home we've been complete ballers and deserved 4 points from West Ham/ManUre.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 07, 2021, 02:18:04 PM
I think the opportunity to give them another pasting, given they're probably going to make changes, should not be given up.

Go full strength, smash them again, and they'll be shitting bricks when they have to play us again in the league at Anfield later in the year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: bilsim on January 07, 2021, 02:42:35 PM
Given the announcement of a covid outbreak at Bodymoor it seems unlikely that this game will be going ahead.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on January 07, 2021, 02:44:48 PM
Does this mean we are out?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 07, 2021, 02:45:24 PM
As long as we can cobble together 14 players it will go ahead, won’t it.
FA cup rules different to the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 07, 2021, 02:51:56 PM
As long as we can cobble together 14 players it will go ahead, won’t it.
FA cup rules different to the league.

Derby are playing their U23s and U18s as their entire squad is out, so I think so.

We might be getting more of a look at some of our babbies than we'd anticipated.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: bilsim on January 07, 2021, 02:53:28 PM
It will surely be a case of if we have 14 players who have not been in close proximity with anyone who has tested positive, otherwise they will have to isolate aswell. Given the fact that they've said it's a large number, it seems unlikely we will be playing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 07, 2021, 03:00:34 PM
Presumably the youth players and coaches are in a separate bubble.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 07, 2021, 03:02:21 PM
Will be unimpressed if we aren't allowed to play Newcastle when they have Covid but they force us to play when we have it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 07, 2021, 03:05:22 PM
Will be unimpressed if we aren't allowed to play Newcastle when they have Covid but they force us to play when we have it.

Different competitions, different rules
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 07, 2021, 03:06:30 PM
Will be unimpressed if we aren't allowed to play Newcastle when they have Covid but they force us to play when we have it.

Different competitions, different rules

Doesn't make it any less nonsensical.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 07, 2021, 03:08:18 PM
Anyway, main thing is hope that as few people as possible are affected, and those that are make a swift recovery with no unpleasant long-term effects.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 07, 2021, 03:08:51 PM
Will be unimpressed if we aren't allowed to play Newcastle when they have Covid but they force us to play when we have it.

Different competitions, different rules

Doesn't make it any less nonsensical.
Oh, I agree. But these things never go in our favour.
It’s media darlings Liverpool, we’ll be made to play I’m sure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on January 07, 2021, 03:09:01 PM
COVID at Bodymoor.

Postponement, cancellation or 'play the kids' ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 07, 2021, 03:09:44 PM
Anyway, main thing is hope that as few people as possible are affected, and those that are make a swift recovery with no unpleasant long-term effects.

Yeah last thing we want is anyone getting Long Covid or being badly affected by it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 07, 2021, 03:15:03 PM
Will be unimpressed if we aren't allowed to play Newcastle when they have Covid but they force us to play when we have it.

Different competitions, different rules

Doesn't make it any less nonsensical.


Oh, I agree. But these things never go in our favour.
It’s media darlings Liverpool, we’ll be made to play I’m sure.

I agree (with both of you)!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdward on January 07, 2021, 03:53:21 PM
Southampton v Shrewsbury has already been called off after Shrewsbury players tested positive for COVID. So the precedent is set.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 07, 2021, 03:59:52 PM
Southampton v Shrewsbury has already been called off after Shrewsbury players tested positive for COVID. So the precedent is set.
Not really.
I doubt Shrewsbury have a squad big enough to cope with a covid outbreak and STILL find 14 fit players.
I think they have postponed it to determine a suitable response...no doubt it’ll be forfeit by Shrewsbury.
Screw the little guy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on January 07, 2021, 04:04:29 PM
Southampton v Shrewsbury has already been called off after Shrewsbury players tested positive for COVID. So the precedent is set.
Not really.
I doubt Shrewsbury have a squad big enough to cope with a covid outbreak and STILL find 14 fit players.
I think they have postponed it to determine a suitable response...no doubt it’ll be forfeit by Shrewsbury.
Screw the little guy.
It had better not be, but I understand your cynicism.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 07, 2021, 04:07:24 PM
Each case is on its merits.  If we cant field a 14 man squad, it'll be off no question.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robleflaneur on January 07, 2021, 04:13:01 PM
There are 5 PL managers at least who are over 60,Ancelotti,Bruce,Bielsa,Hodgson and Allardyce and probably some support staff as well.Should elite football be risking their lives ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdward on January 07, 2021, 04:19:53 PM
I wonder when the vaccines will be given? You'd think that PL clubs would have a plan in place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 07, 2021, 04:20:48 PM
Each case is on its merits.  If we cant field a 14 man squad, it'll be off no question.

Then what? As fbriai says on the Covid thread, it can't really be postponed. 4th round is 23rd January, between this weekend and then looks like this:

13/01 AVFC v Spurs
16/01 AVFC v Everton
17/01 LFC v Man U
20/01 Man City v AVFC
21/01 LFC v Burnley

Presumably we play tomorrow or forfeit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 07, 2021, 04:34:54 PM
They should cancel the match and award the tie to whichever team won the last time these two sides met.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on January 07, 2021, 04:36:45 PM
Sack it off, in the overall scheme of things. Get back up for the league matches.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: algy on January 07, 2021, 04:38:25 PM
They should cancel the match and award the tie to whichever team won the last time these two sides met.
That's not really fair, though, because it might get affected by freak results.  They should do the aggregate score of the last time the two sides met, and the last time the two sides met in a cup competition.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 07, 2021, 04:46:51 PM
Each case is on its merits.  If we cant field a 14 man squad, it'll be off no question.

Then what? As fbriai says on the Covid thread, it can't really be postponed. 4th round is 23rd January, between this weekend and then looks like this:

13/01 AVFC v Spurs
16/01 AVFC v Everton
17/01 LFC v Man U
20/01 Man City v AVFC
21/01 LFC v Burnley

Presumably we play tomorrow or forfeit.
It can be played on 18/1. The PL games are only staggered the way they are for Television. LFC v Manu can be played on the 16/1. Man City v. AVFC  can be played on 21/1. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 07, 2021, 04:51:04 PM
Imagine a team getting to Wembley having not played a game because all their opponents had Covid. Also does this raise the possibility of teams playing poker with revealing positive tests so they're not seen as the cause of postponement?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 07, 2021, 04:54:24 PM
Imagine a team getting to Wembley having not played a game because all their opponents had Covid.

It'd be a great question for pub quizzes in about 20 years' time. If any pubs have survived.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 07, 2021, 05:03:37 PM
Given a choice which one would you take

Win the FA Cup
Finish in a Europa spot (5th)

the answer to that question probably affects which team you think we should put out

You obviously haven't thought this through :)

Anyway my answer as always is FA cup unless the other choice was being champions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 07, 2021, 05:06:01 PM
Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash

Luiz
McGinn
Barkley

Grealish
Watkins
El Ghazi

They've had 7 days off, Liverpool will be strengthening their side by playing the reserves, lets win the fucking thing.
Absolutely. Play the best team available and fuck them. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 07, 2021, 05:12:35 PM
Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash

Luiz
McGinn
Barkley

Grealish
Watkins
El Ghazi

They've had 7 days off, Liverpool will be strengthening their side by playing the reserves, lets win the fucking thing.
Absolutely. Play the best team available and fuck them. 

I agree (with both of you)!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on January 07, 2021, 06:09:28 PM
Maybe both teams could play the U18s and just see what happens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 07, 2021, 07:08:46 PM
Club Statement
Quote
The Football Association and Aston Villa are working closely together to try to ensure that the club’s Third Round Proper fixture with Liverpool can go ahead as planned at Villa Park tomorrow evening.

Final confirmation will be made tomorrow pending the results of additional COVID-19 testing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: levico on January 07, 2021, 07:21:20 PM
Well Sky are now saying that the results of the additional round of testing are now available and even more players have been found positive. This means that our entire first team squad are either positive or have had contact with someone positive. Govt rules are that they should all self isolate for 10 days which means the Spurs match will be cancelled.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lsvilla on January 07, 2021, 07:28:36 PM
Club Statement
Quote
The Football Association and Aston Villa are working closely together to try to ensure that the club’s Third Round Proper fixture with Liverpool can go ahead as planned at Villa Park tomorrow evening.

Final confirmation will be made tomorrow pending the results of additional COVID-19 testing.

Looks like we’re testing the kids to see if they can play. Chance for Klopp to get revenge for last years league cup game

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on January 07, 2021, 07:29:24 PM
As I understand it, due to the different rules for the competitions, we either put out some sort of team for tomorrow or we have to forfeit the game. As regards the league match v Spurs, they will postpone it and sort out a new date.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lsvilla on January 07, 2021, 08:02:32 PM
As I understand it, due to the different rules for the competitions, we either put out some sort of team for tomorrow or we have to forfeit the game. As regards the league match v Spurs, they will postpone it and sort out a new date.
So Southampton will be put through at the expense of Shrewsbury then. Agree about the Tottenham game and can see Everton being at risk as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on January 07, 2021, 08:08:13 PM
1-0 Villa Louie Barrie
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 07, 2021, 08:39:37 PM
Given the latest news there's more chance of J.M. Barrie scoring the winner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 07, 2021, 08:58:37 PM
Why didn't Amanda Barrie take the penalty ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on January 07, 2021, 09:06:59 PM
Yes, I think Shrewsbury will have to forfeit as they have said they haven’t got 14 players they can put out. I don’t think it’s case of the FA being obstinate. Just they will have trouble to fit in a date before the 4th round.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 07, 2021, 10:03:03 PM
Problem is how many of the kids were training with
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on January 07, 2021, 10:12:28 PM
Derby apparently are having to put out a team just from a mixture of their U23’S and U18’s
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lsvilla on January 07, 2021, 10:15:05 PM
Yes, I think Shrewsbury will have to forfeit as they have said they haven’t got 14 players they can put out. I don’t think it’s case of the FA being obstinate. Just they will have trouble to fit in a date before the 4th round.
The reality is worldwide tv rights for our game  are very lucrative for the FA and they will not be wanting to refund. Asia wants to watch Liverpool and cares little for who they’re playing - if they beat Aston Villa by a hatful no one outside of the U.K. will be bothered that it was our kids.
Wider view - must be getting close to a shutdown in football now and I say abandon the euros to allow time to catch up. Harsh on Scotland though !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 07, 2021, 10:31:26 PM
https://twitter.com/greggevans40/status/1347309539872264192

Greg(g) Evans suggesting it'll go ahead with us playing the U23s.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on January 07, 2021, 10:35:53 PM
At the moment, it looks like tomorrow's game will go a ahead and we will play the U23 team. They train separately from the first team squad and have no cases thus far.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55575321

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on January 07, 2021, 10:37:16 PM
“Mark Delaney‘s Claret and Blue Army” 👏👏🤝
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on January 07, 2021, 10:51:40 PM
Percy has just said no first team involvement tomorrow night including Smith

AV will be Playing u23 and academies
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 07, 2021, 10:57:45 PM
Percy has just said no first team involvement tomorrow night including Smith

AV will be Playing u23 and academies

We'll get battered then. Our current crop of U23s are not up to it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on January 07, 2021, 11:04:18 PM
Percy has just said no first team involvement tomorrow night including Smith

AV will be Playing u23 and academies

We'll get battered then. Our current crop of U23s are not up to it.

Yep
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 07, 2021, 11:09:34 PM
Does Henri Lansbury normally train with the first team?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on January 07, 2021, 11:10:40 PM
Fuck everything, we're cursed in this competition.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 07, 2021, 11:10:42 PM
Does Henri Lansbury normally train with the first team?

Yes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 07, 2021, 11:22:08 PM
Ian Taylor’s normally at the ground, he can put a shirt on!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 07, 2021, 11:24:58 PM
Ian Taylor’s normally at the ground, he can put a shirt on!

So are Dennis Mortimer and Jack Woodward.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on January 07, 2021, 11:26:51 PM
Apparently Hercules the lion is ready to go but they can’t find a pair of boots to fit
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 07, 2021, 11:27:17 PM
Ian Taylor’s normally at the ground, he can put a shirt on!

So are Dennis Mortimer and Jack Woodward.

Midfield sorted
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 07, 2021, 11:28:04 PM
We’ll get thumped.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 07, 2021, 11:28:51 PM
Apparently Hercules the lion is ready to go but they can’t find a pair of boots to fit

Bella and Chip might make a return.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on January 07, 2021, 11:29:35 PM
Apparently Hercules the lion is ready to go but they can’t find a pair of boots to fit

Bella and Chip might make a return.

Still an upgrade on Lansbury
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on January 07, 2021, 11:30:25 PM
Ian Taylor’s normally at the ground, he can put a shirt on!

So are Dennis Mortimer and Jack Woodward.

Midfield sorted
This is like something from the Golden Gordon episode in Ripping Yarns!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 07, 2021, 11:32:28 PM
We're better off not bothering than having the kids get smashed up. Sack it off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 07, 2021, 11:37:30 PM
Presumably Ross McCormack and Micah Richards are still on the books getting paid £1m a week. They can play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 07, 2021, 11:42:56 PM
We're better off not bothering than having the kids get smashed up. Sack it off.

This is my view, too. Could be painful for them. I suppose the only hope is that Klopp takes it as an opportunity to rest their entire squad and it ends up being Villa Youth v Liverpool Youth.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 08, 2021, 12:45:40 AM
We're better off not bothering than having the kids get smashed up. Sack it off.

This is my view, too. Could be painful for them. I suppose the only hope is that Klopp takes it as an opportunity to rest their entire squad and it ends up being Villa Youth v Liverpool Youth.
Yes, our youngsters fared very badly against Sunderland, Fleetwood and Carlisle who were all less than full strength, so if Liverpool were to field even a senior B string, it could end up as a record FA Cup defeat as well as a record club defeat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on January 08, 2021, 01:00:36 AM
What's the point in having a game where it's under 18's vs seniors? Many of our better U23's have been training with the first team squad. I'd rather we said fuck it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 08, 2021, 01:10:23 AM
What's the point in having a game where it's under 18's vs seniors?

If the Liverpool score needs brackets we'll be able to add 'again' in brackets to their entry in 'The Coronavirus ***** list'.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 08, 2021, 02:29:41 AM
I’m sure Liverpool fans are looking at this as justice for when they had to play kids against us last time. This isn’t any longer a contest if they play any first teamers but they may not now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 08, 2021, 03:01:13 AM
Difference is, if you look at the teams they put out in other domestic cups, we would likely have started as favourites in that game if there hadn't been a fixture clash. Even if they had been able to choose first team players, they wouldn't have done so.

I doubt we would have picked a full team here, but am fairly certain we would have picked a team which would at least have left us competitive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 08, 2021, 05:17:54 AM
I’m sure Liverpool fans are looking at this as justice for when they had to play kids against us last time. This isn’t any longer a contest if they play any first teamers but they may not now.
Thing is TV, they didn’t HAVE to play their kids that night, they chose to.
The could easily had added a few first teamers to their team that night but gave priority to a sexier (more financially lucrative)  fixture.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 08, 2021, 06:56:42 AM
Opportunity of a life time for most of them because I would guess that this will be there only ever full competitive game playing for the first team.

If i was one of those young lads tonight i would be desperate to play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 08, 2021, 07:24:50 AM
This is the same U23s that lost 8-1 to Sunderland in the EFL Trophy. We should play and not just forfeit and if they don’t beat us by more than 7-2 then the jokes on them.

Imagine if we won though?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 08, 2021, 07:33:40 AM
This is going to be horrible if they put any first teamers out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 08, 2021, 07:40:56 AM
We have not isolated the entire first team squad have we?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on January 08, 2021, 07:49:29 AM
I’m sure Liverpool fans are looking at this as justice for when they had to play kids against us last time. This isn’t any longer a contest if they play any first teamers but they may not now.

I’ve seen this a lot on Twitter. You’ve got to be some kind of amoeba to think there’s any similarity between the two situations.

I’ll assume if they score tonight that they won’t celebrate the goals as they berated us for doing?

I would love it if we beat them, love it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: fbriai on January 08, 2021, 07:52:51 AM
We have not isolated the entire first team squad have we?

I think so, CL, including the coaches and medical staff. Bodymore is closed as well.

From what I've read, the U23s were tested yesterday and we are awaiting the results of those tests to see whether we have enough players to take the field. Mark Delaney is due to be in the dugout if we do.

More info here: Aston Villa set to field youth players in Liverpool FA Cup tie due to Covid cases (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jan/07/aston-villa-covid-outbreak-leaves-liverpool-fa-cup-tie-in-doubt)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on January 08, 2021, 08:13:46 AM
I’m sure Liverpool fans are looking at this as justice for when they had to play kids against us last time. This isn’t any longer a contest if they play any first teamers but they may not now.

I’ve seen this a lot on Twitter. You’ve got to be some kind of amoeba to think there’s any similarity between the two situations.

I’ll assume if they score tonight that they won’t celebrate the goals as they berated us for doing?

I would love it if we beat them, love it.

Exactly - they could have readily split their squad and still won that Bestest Dubai World Cup and give Villa a proper match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 08, 2021, 08:31:47 AM
If it goes ahead I think Bingo will go with a young team with a few first teamers thrown in as insurance against defeat. He's been blarting all season about injuries and how he cares first and foremost about the players so if he put out a full first team he'll look a right dick.

We're on a hiding to nothing really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: algy on January 08, 2021, 08:49:59 AM
Well, I had thought this'd be the start of an incredible cup run, but can't see that happening now barring a miracle.  Looking for positives, though, it might well work in our favour to go out (basically) without having played a game.

Assuming we go out, we've got 23 games left this season regardless of results.  You can imagine a significant number of games will end up getting postponed over the next few months, which'll cause some major fixture congestion as we go in to summer.  I can see a point where some teams will regularly be playing a game every 2 or 3 days for weeks on end ... it might not be a bad thing to be out of the cups, as long as we can take advantage of that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on January 08, 2021, 08:53:00 AM
I’m sure Klopp was already planning to rest most of his key players from the starting line up but have 4/5 of them on the bench when thinking we would play our first team - now we are going with youth you’d expect he will take the opportunity to leave a few more in Liverpool for a rest and go youth with likes of Origi, Minamino & Shaquiri sprinkled in.

Hope if it does go ahead that none of the u23’s we want to see have been training with first team this week as it would gutting for them to miss out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 08, 2021, 08:53:39 AM
Let's just sack this off. When we win it next year we can claim to be undefeated in the FA Cup for two years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 08, 2021, 08:54:06 AM
A few of the U23s train with the first team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on January 08, 2021, 09:03:42 AM
It's a friday night match.  I don't like friday night matches, give me a sunday evening every time.  I don't think we'll learn a lot if the kids play but it would be a good experience for them.  Good luck lads
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on January 08, 2021, 09:12:30 AM
A few of the U23s train with the first team.
That’ll be a real shame for any that miss out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 08, 2021, 09:14:27 AM
I doubt the 8-1 loss at sunderland in the EFL cup was a 'good experience' for them. This could be a whole lot worse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on January 08, 2021, 09:26:20 AM
you have to think it could affect  their confidence and do them no good at all

What happens if they get absolutely battered and say Liverpool put 7 goals past them
totally embarrassing that would be
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on January 08, 2021, 09:29:33 AM
I suspect it will be postponed. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 08, 2021, 09:31:38 AM
We have not isolated the entire first team squad have we?

I think so, CL, including the coaches and medical staff. Bodymore is closed as well.

From what I've read, the U23s were tested yesterday and we are awaiting the results of those tests to see whether we have enough players to take the field. Mark Delaney is due to be in the dugout if we do.

More info here: Aston Villa set to field youth players in Liverpool FA Cup tie due to Covid cases (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jan/07/aston-villa-covid-outbreak-leaves-liverpool-fa-cup-tie-in-doubt)
cheers mate.
The game is now meaningless.
How soon will the first team be available to play?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 08, 2021, 09:49:43 AM
Any hope of blizzards and six-foot snowdrifts over there today?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2021, 09:59:19 AM
I suspect it will be postponed.

To be played when?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on January 08, 2021, 10:04:19 AM
Why would a bunch of kids lose confidence if they get wallopped by Liverpool?

Unless all the players are really, really thick and deluded, I'd expect them to turn up, give their best and mark it down as experience at what they should be aiming at.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 08, 2021, 10:04:58 AM
This is getting daft now. They're going to have to stop the league and extend the season into July and August again. The Euros will almost certainly have to be cancelled I reckon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 08, 2021, 10:12:41 AM
If it goes ahead I think Bingo will go with a young team with a few first teamers thrown in as insurance against defeat. He's been blarting all season about injuries and how he cares first and foremost about the players so if he put out a full first team he'll look a right dick.

We're on a hiding to nothing really.

I think he'll have decided on his squad for this game before this turn of events. All his first team regulars are more likely to be currently looking for their slippers rather than their boots. He hasn't given a shit about domestic cups before, he's not going to start now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 08, 2021, 10:14:11 AM
Why would a bunch of kids lose confidence if they get wallopped by Liverpool?

Unless all the players are really, really thick and deluded, I'd expect them to turn up, give their best and mark it down as experience at what they should be aiming at.
because if you get done 8-1 by Sunderland and then 10-0 by Liverpool it doesnt exactly give you a winning mentality. Maybe it gets you used to being thrashed. That becomes your par performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on January 08, 2021, 10:16:45 AM
Why would a bunch of kids lose confidence if they get wallopped by Liverpool?

Unless all the players are really, really thick and deluded, I'd expect them to turn up, give their best and mark it down as experience at what they should be aiming at.
because if you get done 8-1 by Sunderland and then 10-0 by Liverpool it doesnt exactly give you a winning mentality. Maybe it gets you used to being thrashed. That becomes your par performance.

Not if they have a brain in their head and a decent coach. If they were being thrashed like-for-like, then yes.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on January 08, 2021, 10:17:00 AM
This is getting daft now. They're going to have to stop the league and extend the season into July and August again. The Euros will almost certainly have to be cancelled I reckon.

Spot on Risso. The Euros should be cancelled now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 08, 2021, 10:19:27 AM
This is getting daft now. They're going to have to stop the league and extend the season into July and August again. The Euros will almost certainly have to be cancelled I reckon.

Spot on Risso. The Euros should be cancelled now.

Just make it a big penalty shoot out competition, they could do it over a weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on January 08, 2021, 10:28:27 AM
I suspect it will be postponed. 
it wouldve been postponed by now I think.
It's either field as best a side you can or forfeit which is why we are still waiting
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on January 08, 2021, 10:32:39 AM
I'm relaxed about this. We put out the kids, get walloped and it takes the sting out of the league match (them "gunning for revenge" etc) which is far more important.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 08, 2021, 10:40:07 AM
It's on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 08, 2021, 10:50:49 AM
It's on.

Is this your gut feeling or 100% confirmed?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 08, 2021, 10:54:58 AM
Aston Villa
@AVFCOfficial
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Aston Villa can confirm that the #EmiratesFACup Third Round tie with Liverpool will be played at Villa Park this evening (7.45pm KO). 🟣

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1347491972169297920
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: nevillain on January 08, 2021, 11:01:45 AM
Come on me babbies. Quite literally now!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 08, 2021, 11:01:46 AM
Mark, Mark, Maaaaark, De-laney.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on January 08, 2021, 11:02:18 AM
Certainly going to be an interesting game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 08, 2021, 11:06:06 AM
Our captain this evening.


(https://i.ibb.co/HYq2GbB/1957-young-villa-fan-at-fa-cup-final.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HYq2GbB)




COME ON YOU LIONS CUBBBBBS !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on January 08, 2021, 11:07:48 AM
I always see photos of what I assume is 57 and want to tell those folks to make the most of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: achilles on January 08, 2021, 11:14:24 AM
What is the f**king point, it is totally demeaning to the whole competition!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 08, 2021, 11:22:02 AM


Getting ready to Liverpool supporting friends after every goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 08, 2021, 11:24:02 AM
Mark, Mark, Maaaaark, De-laney.

Is he playing?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on January 08, 2021, 11:24:24 AM
Well, snowing like bloody crazy up here: any chance it might do the same in Birmingham?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 08, 2021, 11:41:40 AM
What is the f**king point, it is totally demeaning to the whole competition!

Well I like the fact that rather than whinge, cry or look for a get out in some way, the club have just stood up and got the fixture on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 08, 2021, 11:42:49 AM
Is it in the rules that we can’t forfeit?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 08, 2021, 11:43:50 AM
Probably due to consequences around TV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 08, 2021, 11:44:57 AM
What is the f**king point, it is totally demeaning to the whole competition!

Well I like the fact that rather than whinge, cry or look for a get out in some way, the club have just stood up and got the fixture on.

We could have challenged them to a snowball fight instead.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on January 08, 2021, 11:48:47 AM
Well, snowing like bloody crazy up here: any chance it might do the same in Birmingham?

Light snow at the moment but nothing that will threaten the game.

With all the shit going on at the moment I’m not going to get annoyed by this but rather see it as an opportunity for our youngsters to impress.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 08, 2021, 11:52:58 AM
I am fairly ambivalent whereas pre-pandemic I'm sure I'd be incandescent with rage. Or something.

It's the equivalent of having a whole squad injured and utterly out of the club's control. All but the Rags will see this as a pointless fulfilment of a fixture and the result just as much.

Better get that asterix ready to go alongside the winners name. Unless we are the winners.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on January 08, 2021, 11:55:27 AM
I think the club would rather use it as a way of giving young players some experience rather than forfeit the tie. I know some are worried about a real drubbing affecting their confidence but I think it helps guard against complacency and opens their eyes to what senior football is all about. There's been too many talented players over the years who find their own age group football too easy but never go onto fulfill their potential because they've become lazy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 08, 2021, 11:55:34 AM
What is the f**king point, it is totally demeaning to the whole competition!

Well I like the fact that rather than whinge, cry or look for a get out in some way, the club have just stood up and got the fixture on.

We could have challenged them to a snowball fight instead.

Or a best snowman (or snowperson) competition. That would have been tremendous fun.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on January 08, 2021, 11:56:12 AM
Must be some excited young lads looking forward to the game thats for sure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2021, 12:12:12 PM
So...anyone got a revised team prediction?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 08, 2021, 12:18:01 PM
I think the club would rather use it as a way of giving young players some experience rather than forfeit the tie. I know some are worried about a real drubbing affecting their confidence but I think it helps guard against complacency and opens their eyes to what senior football is all about. There's been too many talented players over the years who find their own age group football too easy but never go onto fulfill their potential because they've become lazy.

I think it depends on the magnitude of the drubbling. Like, if we lose by 5/6 then I'd probably agree, but if they end up losing 13-0 or something then it'll just be a ridiculous exercise for all involved.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 08, 2021, 12:20:51 PM
Is it in the rules that we can’t forfeit?

Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 08, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
Is it in the rules that we can’t forfeit?

Does anyone know?

Probably not due to TV revenue etc but I'm glad we are not tbh.  Something honorable in giving them a game and highlight the sham.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 08, 2021, 12:28:57 PM
I think the club would rather use it as a way of giving young players some experience rather than forfeit the tie. I know some are worried about a real drubbing affecting their confidence but I think it helps guard against complacency and opens their eyes to what senior football is all about. There's been too many talented players over the years who find their own age group football too easy but never go onto fulfill their potential because they've become lazy.

I think it depends on the magnitude of the drubbling. Like, if we lose by 5/6 then I'd probably agree, but if they end up losing 13-0 or something then it'll just be a ridiculous exercise for all involved.

Their under 23s coach thanked us for easing up in the second half. I'd imagine that they'd do the same.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: simboy on January 08, 2021, 12:30:35 PM

 If I was an 18 year old on the Villa books I would be so looking forward to it, a chance to make my name against the League champions. No one, not even me, expect us to win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The_ads on January 08, 2021, 12:33:42 PM
Liverpool - 6 on sky bet is 20/1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2021, 12:41:28 PM
Well I like the fact that rather than whinge, cry or look for a get out in some way, the club have just stood up and got the fixture on.
Well may be but I would like see what happens on Wednesday before judging this. I hope it’s not the case that as usual PL teams don’t care about the FA cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2021, 12:42:24 PM
Do we know what sort of team Liverpool are planing to field?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 08, 2021, 12:44:56 PM
Do we know what sort of team Liverpool are planing to field?

A football one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 08, 2021, 12:48:53 PM
I’m quite looking forward to seeing the lad in midfield who’s name I can’t write or pronounce, he’s supposed to be flip hot. Chukeweze or something, is he likely to play?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on January 08, 2021, 01:02:12 PM
Have Shrewsbury been allowed to cancel because they are a League One club? May as well play though as the fixture pile up is already looking horrendous. Who will be in goal? He will be busy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 08, 2021, 01:10:35 PM
I’m quite looking forward to seeing the lad in midfield who’s name I can’t write or pronounce, he’s supposed to be flip hot. Chukeweze or something, is he likely to play?

Chukwuemeka. No idea whether he'll play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 08, 2021, 01:18:27 PM
Have Shrewsbury been allowed to cancel because they are a League One club? May as well play though as the fixture pile up is already looking horrendous. Who will be in goal? He will be busy.

I hope we are allowed two.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 08, 2021, 01:21:20 PM
On the bright side, at least this game is happening when the schools are shut, so our players shouldn't be too tired.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on January 08, 2021, 01:21:33 PM
Do we know what sort of team Liverpool are planing to field?

My Liverpool mate said a fringe one, and that was before our problems. We should leave the undersoil heating off by, erm, mistake.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 08, 2021, 01:29:23 PM
I’m sure Liverpool fans are looking at this as justice for when they had to play kids against us last time. This isn’t any longer a contest if they play any first teamers but they may not now.
Thing is TV, they didn’t HAVE to play their kids that night, they chose to.
The could easily had added a few first teamers to their team that night but gave priority to a sexier (more financially lucrative)  fixture.


Oh no doubt Andy. But I’m talking about the fans more than the football club. They were whining like mad that the fixture went ahead. You’ll notice we’ve just got on with it. I have a feeling Klopp actually might not play many first teamers but just enough to make a difference. Or just have them on the bench. I have no expectations tonight. But it will be interesting to see how our kids do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 08, 2021, 01:39:28 PM
Disgrace that this game is taking place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 08, 2021, 01:44:49 PM
So...anyone got a revised team prediction?

Mungo Bridge and Jerry Maguire down the flanks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 08, 2021, 01:47:43 PM
Disgrace that this game is taking place.

Agreed. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 08, 2021, 01:49:40 PM
No moaning, we're getting on with it.

I hope the lads enjoy the game, regardless of the score. I hope everyone else is ok.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 08, 2021, 01:58:31 PM
I’m quite looking forward to seeing the lad in midfield who’s name I can’t write or pronounce, he’s supposed to be flip hot. Chukeweze or something, is he likely to play?

Chukwuemeka. No idea whether he'll play.

Thanks, that’s the chap.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on January 08, 2021, 02:16:06 PM
Anyone remember the team we fielded against Liverpool that night

it wasn’t the first time was it
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Cleybrooke on January 08, 2021, 02:18:48 PM
Louie Barry to start...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 08, 2021, 02:21:10 PM
I can see most of Klopp's starting 11 being bench warmers, the likes of Milner, Jones, Minamino, Shaqiri, Origi, Rhys Williams, Phillips and Neco Williams, he'll bring the big guns on when they're 3 down with 2 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on January 08, 2021, 02:51:25 PM
Our youth team lost 8 1 earlier in the season against a Strong Sunderland team,i dread to think what the score tonight might be
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 08, 2021, 02:56:08 PM
I’m quite looking forward to seeing the lad in midfield who’s name I can’t write or pronounce, he’s supposed to be flip hot. Chukeweze or something, is he likely to play?

Chukwuemeka. No idea whether he'll play.

Thanks, that’s the chap.

If he gets knocked down, he gets back up again. Because you're never gonna keep him down.
 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on January 08, 2021, 02:59:59 PM
So...anyone got a revised team prediction?

Reckon it will be something like this


Barry Humphries (in drag)
Oscar “Barry” Arce         Barry Hole   Sil Swinkels (penalty duties)      Gareth Barry

Barry Chuckle    Gene Barry     Amanda Barry

Barry Sheen   Barry Gibb     Barry Manilow
 
Sub:  Louis Barry,  Barry Bannan, Barry Island
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 08, 2021, 03:20:26 PM
Haven't all of the bright young prospects been training with the first team and therefore ko'd with Covid? Meaning we're likely left with the dregs. Legion needs to get Cam Archer back to the Villa sharpish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 08, 2021, 03:21:28 PM
So...anyone got a revised team prediction?

Reckon it will be something like this


Barry Humphries (in drag)
Oscar “Barry” Arce         Barry Hole   Sil Swinkels (penalty duties)      Gareth Barry

Barry Chuckle    Gene Barry     Amanda Barry

Barry Sheen   Barry Gibb     Barry Manilow
 
Sub:  Louis Barry,  Barry Bannan, Barry Island


No Barry White?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eddiemunster on January 08, 2021, 03:22:19 PM
So...anyone got a revised team prediction?

Reckon it will be something like this


Barry Humphries (in drag)
Oscar “Barry” Arce         Barry Hole   Sil Swinkels (penalty duties)      Gareth Barry

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) Absolutely brilliant!!








Barry Chuckle    Gene Barry     Amanda Barry

Barry Sheen   Barry Gibb     Barry Manilow
 
Sub:  Louis Barry,  Barry Bannan, Barry Island
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 08, 2021, 03:30:53 PM
Manilow gets caught offside too much if VAR is in use.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: appyarryampton on January 08, 2021, 03:34:06 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on January 08, 2021, 03:41:47 PM
This is a great opportunity for us to see the next generation and for them to impress!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 08, 2021, 04:06:12 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.


That horse bolted long ago.

I'm not that arsed in all honesty, it's a mad old situation and unfortunately the timing of it is shite, but it's not anybody's fault and I think we look better if we stand up and get on with it, which it seems we are.

 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 08, 2021, 04:11:52 PM
Optimistic to ask when the draw for the 4th Round is?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 08, 2021, 04:17:04 PM
Its not just the youth team though is it?

Surely the under 23's are available as well
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 08, 2021, 04:19:23 PM
The average age of the U23s is 19 and their results this season have largely been terrible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 08, 2021, 04:19:37 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing the youngsters play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 08, 2021, 04:19:58 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.


That horse bolted long ago.

I'm not that arsed in all honesty, it's a mad old situation and unfortunately the timing of it is shite, but it's not anybody's fault and I think we look better if we stand up and get on with it, which it seems we are.

 

Yep. I can't recall ever being this relaxed before a game. We will likely lose heavily so fuck it. I hope our young kids do themselves proud. And frankly it's like their kids vs us last time where a few of them are now featuring in the first team or successfully on loan. That's ultimately what we want out of tonight. A win would be a massive cherry on the icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on January 08, 2021, 04:23:21 PM
So...anyone got a revised team prediction?
Reckon it will be something like this

Barry Humphries (in drag)
Oscar “Barry” Arce         Barry Hole   Sil Swinkels (penalty duties)      Gareth Barry

Barry Chuckle    Gene Barry     Amanda Barry

Barry Sheen   Barry Gibb     Barry Manilow
 
Sub:  Louis Barry,  Barry Bannan, Barry Island
Why didn't Barry take the penalty?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 08, 2021, 04:23:34 PM
Haven't all of the bright young prospects been training with the first team and therefore ko'd with Covid? Meaning we're likely left with the dregs. Legion needs to get Cam Archer back to the Villa sharpish.

Yes. As well as loaned out (Vassilev and Archer for example). Cam's loan has been extended until May with no recall option.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 08, 2021, 04:28:44 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.


That horse bolted long ago.

I'm not that arsed in all honesty, it's a mad old situation and unfortunately the timing of it is shite, but it's not anybody's fault and I think we look better if we stand up and get on with it, which it seems we are.

 

Yep. I can't recall ever being this relaxed before a game. We will likely lose heavily so fuck it. I hope our young kids do themselves proud. And frankly it's like their kids vs us last time where a few of them are now featuring in the first team or successfully on loan. That's ultimately what we want out of tonight. A win would be a massive cherry on the icing on the cake.

Nobody is going to laugh at us if we get thumped, we'll get all the sympathy and pats on the back for getting the tie on, and anyway we battered them at real football a few weeks back.

If we beat them though, or push them close, they're going to look like twats. If they go heavy on a bunch of kids only playing because of a pandemic, they're also going to look like twats.

It's robbed them of their sanctimony, which will hurt them more than any other club. It's almost worth it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 08, 2021, 04:29:07 PM
I will not be watching this slaughter.  Would have much preferred it if we gave them the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 08, 2021, 04:31:36 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.


That horse bolted long ago.

I'm not that arsed in all honesty, it's a mad old situation and unfortunately the timing of it is shite, but it's not anybody's fault and I think we look better if we stand up and get on with it, which it seems we are.

 

Yep. I can't recall ever being this relaxed before a game. We will likely lose heavily so fuck it. I hope our young kids do themselves proud. And frankly it's like their kids vs us last time where a few of them are now featuring in the first team or successfully on loan. That's ultimately what we want out of tonight. A win would be a massive cherry on the icing on the cake.

Nobody is going to laugh at us if we get thumped, we'll get all the sympathy and pats on the back for getting the tie on, and anyway we battered them at real football a few weeks back.

If we beat them though, or push them close, they're going to look like twats. If they go heavy on a bunch of kids only playing because of a pandemic, they're also going to look like twats.

It's robbed them of their sanctimony, which will hurt them more than any other club. It's almost worth it.

If they lose they will likely put out a new song and light lots of candles.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 08, 2021, 04:32:46 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.


Modern times. TV money for the game and allows us to focus on the league and the financial rewards a top finish brings.
That said, I fully agree with you but realistically, there's little opportunity for either team to reschedule the game and to think earlier this week I honestly thought this was finally our year.

When we finally do win the FA Cup again.. and we will, it's going to be one hell of a party. Maybe now is not the best time for that party.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 08, 2021, 04:39:42 PM
Well it’s all gone nuts really. Aren’t Spurs in the League Cup final after winning two games? Stoke and Brentford. These cup competitions are completely devalued, even more than normal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on January 08, 2021, 04:42:45 PM
it is what it is

life under a pandemic is not normal
I’m glad we’re playing the game even if it is with youngsters

Yes it’s not ideal and we will lose but to be honest Football is one of the things that’s kept me going under this shit sandwich of the past year
And I’m grateful for it
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 08, 2021, 04:50:06 PM
Football is one of the things that’s kept me going under this shit sandwich of the past year
And I’m grateful for it

Same here. The Villa and Trump/US election has been a godsend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 08, 2021, 04:50:26 PM
Well it’s all gone nuts really. Aren’t Spurs in the League Cup final after winning two games? Stoke and Brentford. These cup competitions are completely devalued, even more than normal.

They beat Chelsea too, on penalties.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on January 08, 2021, 05:01:12 PM
We avoided relegation last season which was a miracle. We need another tonight. Keep the faith. Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on January 08, 2021, 05:06:29 PM
Wish we were there to support them tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on January 08, 2021, 05:10:36 PM
They will do us proud tonight. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 08, 2021, 05:15:47 PM
https://whatthesport.co.uk/football/aston-villa-things-to-know-about-the-youngsters-set-to-face-liverpool/
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 08, 2021, 05:31:15 PM
it is what it is

I’m glad we’re playing the game even if it is with youngsters

I hope you say similar once the match is finished.

I’d take a 5-0 loss now such is my expectation.

To compete against Liverpool we need our best side on top form and them off form.  It doesn’t matter what side they put out they will be far too good for our under 23s. This could be really ugly for Villa fans.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on January 08, 2021, 05:35:01 PM
it is what it is

I’m glad we’re playing the game even if it is with youngsters

I hope you say similar once the match is finished.

I’d take a 5-0 loss now such is my expectation.

To compete against Liverpool we need our best side on top form and them off form.  It doesn’t matter what side they put out they will be far too good for our under 23s. This could be really ugly for Villa fans.

I dont give a fuck. The integrity this club has shown to be playing this fixture tonight makes me proud to be a villa fan. No crying, throwing our toys out of the pram just honest and goodness integrity
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2021, 05:51:47 PM
https://whatthesport.co.uk/football/aston-villa-things-to-know-about-the-youngsters-set-to-face-liverpool/

For what appears to be a cynical click bait site, that's actually a pretty darn good write-up on a load of players that the majority of Villa fans wouldn't have even heard of.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on January 08, 2021, 05:59:30 PM
it is what it is

I’m glad we’re playing the game even if it is with youngsters

I hope you say similar once the match is finished.

I’d take a 5-0 loss now such is my expectation.

To compete against Liverpool we need our best side on top form and them off form.  It doesn’t matter what side they put out they will be far too good for our under 23s. This could be really ugly for Villa fans.

I dont give a fuck. The integrity this club has shown to be playing this fixture tonight makes me proud to be a villa fan. No crying, throwing our toys out of the pram just honest and goodness integrity
Good point. Our enemies call us "the history boys" as an insult. I take it as a compliment. Integrity and history are the foundation stones that the greatest club on earth are built on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on January 08, 2021, 06:01:48 PM
******BREAKING NEWS *******
Aston Villa's cup game against Liverpool has been postponed after several Villa players test positive for Calpol.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clive W on January 08, 2021, 06:03:14 PM
it is what it is

I’m glad we’re playing the game even if it is with youngsters

I hope you say similar once the match is finished.

I’d take a 5-0 loss now such is my expectation.

To compete against Liverpool we need our best side on top form and them off form.  It doesn’t matter what side they put out they will be far too good for our under 23s. This could be really ugly for Villa fans.

I dont give a fuck. The integrity this club has shown to be playing this fixture tonight makes me proud to be a villa fan. No crying, throwing our toys out of the pram just honest and goodness integrity

My thoughts exactly
I’ve supported Villa since 1959 and I’m still not sure what made me choose  them. I was born in Kent and my family were more rugby orientated than football so no connection there.
Maybe it was the  colours or the very name; someone said the name just rolls over your tongue like honey
Or maybe even at that young age I was aware of the history, tradition and honour of the club
And that is exactly why we are correct to play tonight - we are a “proper” football club and we honour the traditions of the game.
The result is irrelevant but just think what it must be like for our lads tonight
Putting on the famous Villa shirt as a first team player, at Villa Park in the FA Cup against the reigning champions
What wouldn’t we all have given to be able to do that
So never has the cry of “c’mon you Villa boys” been more appropriate
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 08, 2021, 06:06:56 PM
https://whatthesport.co.uk/football/aston-villa-things-to-know-about-the-youngsters-set-to-face-liverpool/

For what appears to be a cynical click bait site, that's actually a pretty darn good write-up on a load of players that the majority of Villa fans wouldn't have even heard of.

Yes, very useful, cheers. Are our youth teams under-performing in their respective competitions then based on so many of them being highly touted ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Big Ming on January 08, 2021, 06:07:48 PM
******BREAKING NEWS *******
Aston Villa's cup game against Liverpool has been postponed after several Villa players test positive for Calpol.
Post of the month awarded.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 08, 2021, 06:14:50 PM
Having watched, admittedly not much, on you tube, they appear to play as a bunch of talented individuals with very little movement off the ball and not much teamwork.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Allan C on January 08, 2021, 06:14:59 PM
it is what it is

I’m glad we’re playing the game even if it is with youngsters

I hope you say similar once the match is finished.

I’d take a 5-0 loss now such is my expectation.

To compete against Liverpool we need our best side on top form and them off form.  It doesn’t matter what side they put out they will be far too good for our under 23s. This could be really ugly for Villa fans.

I dont give a fuck. The integrity this club has shown to be playing this fixture tonight makes me proud to be a villa fan. No crying, throwing our toys out of the pram just honest and goodness integrity

My thoughts exactly
I’ve supported Villa since 1959 and I’m still not sure what made me choose  them. I was born in Kent and my family were more rugby orientated than football so no connection there.
Maybe it was the  colours or the very name; someone said the name just rolls over your tongue like honey
Or maybe even at that young age I was aware of the history, tradition and honour of the club
And that is exactly why we are correct to play tonight - we are a “proper” football club and we honour the traditions of the game.
The result is irrelevant but just think what it must be like for our lads tonight
Putting on the famous Villa shirt as a first team player, at Villa Park in the FA Cup against the reigning champions
What wouldn’t we all have given to be able to do that
So never has the cry of “c’mon you Villa boys” been more appropriate
Yes all of the above plus I’m really looking forward to watching the youngsters play. We may well lose but I won’t lose any sleep over it to be honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on January 08, 2021, 06:15:38 PM
I think the plan is to produce players rather than a decent team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 08, 2021, 06:19:12 PM
How can this possibly be 'ugly' for Villa fans? We're expecting the team to get twatted; keeping it to single figures will be one of those moral victories the other lot keep getting. Anybody who moans at the result is an idiot and any player affected by anything short of life-threatening injury shouldn't be in the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 08, 2021, 06:20:44 PM
Just looking at the pre-match photos the official site have put up, I don't recognise any of those lads.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on January 08, 2021, 06:20:54 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.


Modern times. TV money for the game and allows us to focus on the league and the financial rewards a top finish brings.
That said, I fully agree with you but realistically, there's little opportunity for either team to reschedule the game and to think earlier this week I honestly thought this was finally our year.

When we finally do win the FA Cup again.. and we will, it's going to be one hell of a party. Maybe now is not the best time for that party.

EXACTLY! Let's win it when we can all be there to appreciate it. *Would still like to take em close tonight mind.   ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisf on January 08, 2021, 06:23:47 PM
How can this possibly be 'ugly' for Villa fans? We're expecting the team to get twatted; keeping it to single figures will be one of those moral victories the other lot keep getting. Anybody who moans at the result is an idiot and any player affected by anything short of life-threatening injury shouldn't be in the game.
I reckon if we lose by less than six we effectively win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2021, 06:23:51 PM
How can this possibly be 'ugly' for Villa fans? We're expecting the team to get twatted; keeping it to single figures will be one of those moral victories the other lot keep getting. Anybody who moans at the result is an idiot and any player affected by anything short of life-threatening injury shouldn't be in the game.

There will still absolutely be a post or three in the post-match thread bemoaning the quality of the academy and how "maybe these players aren't as highly-rated as we think they are".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 08, 2021, 06:27:06 PM
Hope Liverpool show the respect and humility we were all instructed to show them in the League Cup last season when they had a team of kids out. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2021, 06:29:30 PM
******BREAKING NEWS *******
Aston Villa's cup game against Liverpool has been postponed after several Villa players test positive for Calpol.
I hope not as I have delivered two boxes of Fredos to the Villa changing room.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 08, 2021, 06:30:06 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.


That horse bolted long ago.

I'm not that arsed in all honesty, it's a mad old situation and unfortunately the timing of it is shite, but it's not anybody's fault and I think we look better if we stand up and get on with it, which it seems we are.

 

Yep. I can't recall ever being this relaxed before a game. We will likely lose heavily so fuck it. I hope our young kids do themselves proud. And frankly it's like their kids vs us last time where a few of them are now featuring in the first team or successfully on loan. That's ultimately what we want out of tonight. A win would be a massive cherry on the icing on the cake.

Nobody is going to laugh at us if we get thumped, we'll get all the sympathy and pats on the back for getting the tie on, and anyway we battered them at real football a few weeks back.

If we beat them though, or push them close, they're going to look like twats. If they go heavy on a bunch of kids only playing because of a pandemic, they're also going to look like twats.

It's robbed them of their sanctimony, which will hurt them more than any other club. It's almost worth it.

If they lose they will likely put out a new song and light lots of candles.
Yawn ...........I knew Canada was behind the times but didn't realise it was stuck in the 1980's :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on January 08, 2021, 06:31:57 PM
I'm unclear on the details in all of the situations, but could youth teams have been fielded in those Premier League games involving Fulham etc that got called off for Covid? If yes, why did they go ahead? Is this a tacit acknowledgement from the authorities that, fuck it, who cares about the Cup?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on January 08, 2021, 06:35:59 PM
This is going to be horrible if they put any first teamers out.

But even if we get thrashed, it’s not a total loss in that it will be good to give the young guns a shot at top opposition. I remember a very youthful England rugby team getting trounced in Australia 76-0 in 1998 and yet 5 years later some of those young players helped England lift the Rugby World Cup. Not ideal and not what we wanted but it is what it is and we have to make the best of it.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on January 08, 2021, 06:37:03 PM
Wasn't really arsed about this game anyway. It'll be a good outing for the youngsters though. Hope they just go out there and enjoy it - whatever happens, they look a promising bunch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2021, 06:38:16 PM
I'm unclear on the details in all of the situations, but could youth teams have been fielded in those Premier League games involving Fulham etc that got called off for Covid? If yes, why did they go ahead? Is this a tacit acknowledgement from the authorities that, fuck it, who cares about the Cup?
I think it is fuck the cup. It would be interesting to see what happens on Wednesday. Surely none of first team squad will be available?


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 08, 2021, 06:38:59 PM
Our side hasn't been announced yet but this is the Liverpool line up. If fucking Klopp ever moans about subs and player tiredness again. He knows exactly what we have to put out and he has still selected a number of top players. Wanker

Kelleher, N. Williams, R. Williams, Fabinho, Milner, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Jones, Mane, Minamino, Salah. Subs: Alisson, Thiago, Firmino, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Origi, Shaqiri, Robertson, Phillips, Alexander-Arnold
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on January 08, 2021, 06:40:15 PM
I'm unclear on the details in all of the situations, but could youth teams have been fielded in those Premier League games involving Fulham etc that got called off for Covid? If yes, why did they go ahead? Is this a tacit acknowledgement from the authorities that, fuck it, who cares about the Cup?

Aye, it seems like the only logical explanation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2021, 06:40:31 PM
I'm unclear on the details in all of the situations, but could youth teams have been fielded in those Premier League games involving Fulham etc that got called off for Covid? If yes, why did they go ahead? Is this a tacit acknowledgement from the authorities that, fuck it, who cares about the Cup?

Different rules for the Premier League and FA Cup. I guess it boils down to the Cup needing a set of common rules from qualifying through to the final, and the timetable doesn't allow the second qualifying round between Lower Featherington Athletic and Huxtable Wanderers to be postponed. So nor can Villa - Liverpool be.

The league can be kicked down the road, and if we're playing seven games in 25 days in March then so be it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Aldridge Villa on January 08, 2021, 06:40:46 PM
Come on you Villa BOYS , do us proud , am sure you will.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on January 08, 2021, 06:41:04 PM
They’ve gone practically full strength!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on January 08, 2021, 06:41:43 PM
I'm unclear on the details in all of the situations, but could youth teams have been fielded in those Premier League games involving Fulham etc that got called off for Covid? If yes, why did they go ahead? Is this a tacit acknowledgement from the authorities that, fuck it, who cares about the Cup?
I think it is fuck the cup. It would be interesting to see what happens on Wednesday. Surely none of first team squad will be available?
The game against Spurs will almost certainly be off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 08, 2021, 06:41:50 PM
Fuck me Mane and Salah........  good luck boys.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on January 08, 2021, 06:43:13 PM
Haha, Seabiscuit's scared of our kids!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 08, 2021, 06:44:18 PM
Bitter cnut. I knew he wanted revenge for their two last maulings at VP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 08, 2021, 06:44:39 PM
Klopp has turned into a proper arsehole just lately. I don't expect them to put out a weak side but fuck me, after all that moaning about games and tiredness.

He can go fuck himself.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 08, 2021, 06:45:44 PM
He better never moan about fixture congestion ever again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: picicata on January 08, 2021, 06:45:54 PM
If one of our young lads was to 'mistime' a tackle on Salah it really wouldn't be the end of the world
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on January 08, 2021, 06:47:09 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 08, 2021, 06:47:31 PM
Looking at their team, this would be a bigger shock than Hereford v Newcastle, Sutton v Coventry or the time Blose nearly got a draw against us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 08, 2021, 06:49:02 PM
Looking at their team, this would be a bigger shock than Hereford v Newcastle, Sutton v Coventry or the time Blose nearly got a draw against us.

Like it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 08, 2021, 06:49:07 PM
It would be interesting to compare the sides with our League Cup game last year. I think both sides had 1st team experience, ours more of course but if I'm right we have none whatsoever tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on January 08, 2021, 06:51:14 PM
IMO it is an absolute disgrace we are playing this game. Total devaluation of the FA cup.

Not very appy, then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 08, 2021, 06:54:39 PM
He better never moan about fixture congestion ever again.
I shall get my dog Marley to piss up his gates when I walk him past Klopps house,later tonight :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clive W on January 08, 2021, 06:57:04 PM
He better never moan about fixture congestion ever again.
I shall get my dog Marley to piss up his gates when I walk him past Klopps house,later tonight :)
An alternative view is that he is doing the same as us - showing respect
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool (FAC3) Friday 8th January 7:45pm KO - Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on January 08, 2021, 06:57:28 PM
Come on you Villa Boys.

Imagine if there was a crowd tonight....
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