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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 12, 2020, 11:42:52 AM
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Bold.
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Great to see Jacob getting a start and hoping our Traore is better than theirs
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Going for it....come on you Villa boys.
Great to see Ramsey start.
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Oof, but #levels really like it when you come at them. I'd prefer us to go cagey and look to counter.
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Great call on Ramsey. We've been played through our midfield way too easily all season so hopefully he can add some physicality there.
Hourihane won't be happy but set-pieces apart he offers very little and certainly not in terms of midfield bite.
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Good to see Guilbert back in the squad. Where's Trez?
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These days Villa are riding on the entertainment juggernaut.
Expect someone to win 4-2.
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Good to see Guilbert back in the squad. Where's Trez?
sounds like hes hit his head on something obviously not a goal net
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Oof, but #levels really like it when you come at them. I'd prefer us to go cagey and look to counter.
we don’t have the players to do that.
Pleased to see Ramsay instead of Hourihane.
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Conor will surely ask for a move away in January.
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Conor will surely ask for a move away in January.
Probably the right thing for both parties.
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Don’t concede stupid fucking goals this week Villa. Please win.
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Conor will surely ask for a move away in January.
Probably the right thing for both parties.
Agree. Hopefully Ramsey does well enough to become back-up for Barkley, and we bring a big unit of a defensive/box-to-box midfielder in as alternate for Luiz/McGinn.
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Good luck to Ramsey today. That said I don't think he's been brought into the team to add midfield bite.
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That is fucking bold.
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Conor will surely ask for a move away in January.
I don’t see why he would do that in January. He plays for a PL club. And why we would sell him to club around us? In the summer, I agree.
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Congratulations Jacob first Villa player, born this century to start a Premier League game for us, good luck today.
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Congratulations Jacob first Villa player, born this century to start a Premier League game for us, good luck today.
This. It's just made me feel really old though! ::)
Come on Villa!
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Pleased to see Ramsay instead of Hourihane.
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You shock me! I've always had you down as a Conor fan.
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We may miss Trez's energy, but I hope that young Ramsey adds something to our team: we need options in the squad.
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I'd like to see Guilbert get some game-time today, as well.
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Come on fellas. Need this today.
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I can see us getting countered to death here with that line up. Hate to be negative but on paper it looks way too open and they like teams coming at them with space behind.
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We need more mobility, especially off the ball the Hourihane just not provide. Hopefully Ramsey will give us energy.
Bench looks weak for attacking options
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No striker on the bench shows the lack of depth to the squad.
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Good look to the young lad. Hopefully Traore grabs his chance and really makes the right side his own. There's room for improvement there (sorry Trez).
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I can see us getting countered to death here with that line up. Hate to be negative but on paper it looks way too open and they like teams coming at them with space behind.
Traore needs to put in a shift.
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Very brave selection, hope it pays off
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Conor will surely ask for a move away in January.
I don’t see why he would do that in January. He plays for a PL club. And why we would sell him to club around us? In the summer, I agree.
If we're comfortably mid-table/top half I could see us loaning him to WBA in Jan (a gift for nicking your mate off them to revamp our academy) or one of the other bottom feeders at the foot of the table.
He's a great pro and not one who I imagine would be happy to pick up his salary for playing 15 minutes every second or third game.
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I was getting quite excited - then I saw who we have got as ref.
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Come on you Villa boys!
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Cheeky first point from Tyrone. Corner.
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What "rivality between the two clubs" French commentator?
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Looked all over the place from that first corner again. Only three blockers on four attackers and one of their centre halves completely free at the back post.
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McGinn seems to be playing on the left side, with JG floating.
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Please don't make silly mistakes.
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Rubbish touch Traore.
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So every game starts and my streams stop...pm me somebody please =)
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McGinn stop totally relying on his arse.
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Mings you liability !
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Fucking hell Mings
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Traore has given the ball away a lot allready
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Long hoofs from Mings as usual. Been a bit more effective so far though.
Traoré looks like he needs a run of 90 minute games. Got some good ideas, just his touch a bit lacking.
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Well done Martinez.
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Mings losing the ball cheaply there, nearly gifting a goal!!
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Mings....absolute shit as ever.
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the mings messing about there
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Mings over playing. When will he learn.
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Mings yet again loses it. His casualness is a real problem.
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If that challenge was both going in with their feet it'd be a yellow card for the late tackle but because it's a keeper and he's been kicked in the head it nothing?
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Poor from Mings.
Doug booked now.
Been a decent start from us but dosen't take much for them to play through us which has been a problem all season.
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Mings over playing. When will he learn.
Far too casual.
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Dean makes the easier decision.
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Good marking Targett.
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Traore is seeing lots of the ball; fair enough.
Need to play the ball on the ground - aerials into the Wolves box are pointless.
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The tweaking of the handball/ball to hand rules mid season went against us there.
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Great play.
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Traore is seeing lots of the ball; fair enough.
Need to play the ball on the ground - aerials into the Wolves box are pointless.
He has been pretty poor so far
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JG and metatarsal break?
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2 penalties we should have had.
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Traore is seeing lots of the ball; fair enough.
Need to play the ball on the ground - aerials into the Wolves box are pointless.
He has been pretty poor so far
Not sure about him yet. He's not looking worth the fee at the moment.
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McGinn's bum foul.
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McGinn's arse is no longer effective - official.
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Scrappy game
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Cash out for next match. 5 yellows.
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McGinn's arse is no longer effective - official.
FTFY.
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Traore is a bit rubbish really. The ball bounces off him and he can’t pass to save his life.
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Bertie Traore's performance so far is making me wish we had Trez playing.
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Fuck off Dean you card happy twat.
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3 yellows already for us.
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I know it's Christmas - but Dean doesn't need to keep giving cards to Villa players
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McGinn booked now, 3 in 29 minutes. Reminds me of Palace away last season when we had 5 booked first half and then lost Trez early in second.
Not great when they can counter well.
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Why is it that every foul we commit is a yellow but they're getting away with it having committed twice as many fouls?
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Traore is a bit rubbish really. The ball bounces off him and he can’t pass to save his life.
Far too relaxed.
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McGinn's arse is no longer effective - official.
It's shrunk, the ball's escaping its gravitational pull.
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3 yellows already for us.
Luiz, Cash and SJM.
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Dean in betting scandal over number of cards shocker.
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Jack should have done better there
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This ref doesn't like us.
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That’s pretty obvious.
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Why isn't Traore being booked for persistent fouling?
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Not many refs like Villa
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Jacob almost letting the side down there.
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I'll be honest, I've seen more exciting games.
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This ref doesn't like us.
It’s Mike Dean. He doesn’t like anybody.
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They're getting on top now, need to keep it to 0-0 for half time.
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Traore has made two defensive interventions and they were both poor.
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Traore, pretty shit
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That Traore 'clearance' was woeful.
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Our Traore playing like a bit of a twat.
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Good save Emmi
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Without a big crowd in in the stadium you can clearly hear that Mings is the talker/organiser in the team.
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D Traore is yet another braindead footballer, and will never be good consistently
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Why are we looking tired?
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McGuinns defending is awful
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Coady with a clear pull on Watkins shirt that was almost exactly the same as the one Cash was booked for, ref ignored it.
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Back to making basic mistakes all over the pitch.
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Need to make a change. Traore offering little. Wolves starting to build some pressure.
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Riley really is a x unt
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McGinn has McGone.
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Adama booked.
Red card at some point in second half.
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Coady with a clear pull on Watkins shirt that was almost exactly the same as the one Cash was booked for, ref ignored it.
Watkins stayed on his feet, so the ref didn't give it.
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And then something magical from Bertie.
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Giving the ball away far too often all over the pitch. Have hardly created anything.
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Coady with a clear pull on Watkins shirt that was almost exactly the same as the one Cash was booked for, ref ignored it.
Watkins stayed on his feet, so the ref didn't give it.
Yep, which is bullshit.
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Coady with a clear pull on Watkins shirt that was almost exactly the same as the one Cash was booked for, ref ignored it.
Agreed - said the same
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Adama booked. Adama booked.
Red card at some point in second half.
Red card at some point in second half.
It came up as our Traore booked!
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Why are we looking tired?
A couple of our players have had to put up with being dragged back by the niggly bastard Coady.
Traore booked for Wolves.
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Mike Dean may have had 20 years in the prem, but it’s 20 years of being fucking shit.
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Co-commentator Glenn Hoddle praising us for our attacking intent.
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Think the bookings brought them into that half. Not a lot on offer really for either side. They're looking for us on the break, while we're looking a bit neater generally in possession. Missing Barkley.
Mike Dean doing his best to be the star of the show.
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Wish we could do something with the corners we get.
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Not much in it. A bit niggly. Very stop start.
1 goal could well win it.
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If we cut out the most basic of mistakes we look OK. I'm struggling with Traore though, seems to be a liability at times aand just doesn't do enough going forward to make up for it.
Let's hope he rams those words down my throat in the second half.
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The Mike Dean Show
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Silva should be getting pulled up for backing in. He's no interest in competing, he's playing Konsa every time.
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Mike Dean may have had 20 years in the prem, but it’s 20 years of being fucking shit.
One of the worst, arrogant tosser.
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Dean can’t wait to send one of ours off.
Early goal in the second half could win it for someone.
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Mike Dean may have had 20 years in the prem, but it’s 20 years of being fucking shit.
It's the arrogance that goes with it that really irks...
McGinn having a shocker again, should really be hooked at half time. Ramsey struggling with the pace and physicality of it too. We keep getting dispossessed in midfield and it will cost us.
Watkins and Grealish look dangerous and have the measure of Coady and Semedo. Matt Targett has been surprisingly good. Back five generally have been good bar Cash getting done again positionally for a yellow. Guilbert might have to come in there in second half of he comes under pressure.
Good game this.
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Scrappy and frustrating. We were a lot more fluid at West Ham but Wolves are more physical. Jack and Mings both far too casual when in possession near our own box and under pressure. Don't know if being away with England emboldens them but it's playing with fire.
Traore is frustrating, but there is clearly some technical talent there. Anyone spot after his one decent run into the box and winning a corner, Watkins looked pleadingly at him saying "Mate?" as in, 'Why didn't you cross it to me?" Feel bad for Ollie, he's had to forage deep and he's got the ability to retain possession and get us further up the field but he's had very little service so far.
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Good start from us. They coming more into it after a while. Good game of football. We playing well as we did first half at West Ham. Some trouble we have midfield defensively with McGinn and Ramsey (like the look of the player though and he hasent done much wrong) Mike Dean never liked him , something with his apperance and as someone here said might be that he s looking for being star of the show. Also he usually after Villa players (in my unbiased view ..) also in this game, danger of one of our being sent off. Can go either way, not having a good feeling and probl taking a draw right now.
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It’s nice to hear they have changed the hand ball rule, just in time to fuck us over.........again.
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Mike Dean may have had 20 years in the prem, but it’s 20 years of being fucking shit.
It's the arrogance that goes with it that really irks...
McGinn having a shocker again, should really be hooked at half time. Ramsey struggling with the pace and physicality of it too. We keep getting dispossessed in midfield and it will cost us.
Watkins and Grealish look dangerous and have the measure of Coady and Semedo. Matt Targett has been surprisingly good. Back five generally have been good bar Cash getting done again positionally for a yellow. Guilbert might have to come in there in second half of he comes under pressure.
Good game this.
Agree with all of this. I think McGinn will get sent off if he isn't taken off, Mike Dean really seems to be winding him up with his inconsistent, pedantic bullshit. Which is understandable really, Mike Dean is an absolute twat.
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It’s an even contest which is progress again for us. A point is a very good result. My concern is our discipline given who is ref. We don’t want to go down to 10 because the gaps will be huge for them to attack into. And we need to be more inventive in the final third. Ollie is starved of good service.
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I thought we were doing alright until they got physical and we suffered three quick bookings, then we let them come on to us. We need to get at them again as they are clearly worried about our forward players having matched us up 442
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Wish we could do something with the corners we get.
Jack's deliveries haven't been great
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Dean is just dying to send one of us off. Any excuse he'll have that red out.
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I think Dean has been fucking awful, wildly inconsistent in how he's applying the laws between the 2 teams. Thought the yellow for Luiz was harsh, if the one for Cash stands then Coady and Semedo should be booked as well as they've both done the same thing. He's given their teenager loads of extra protection with some soft free kicks and given ours none as Moutinho has been niggling at him all game.
Aside from that I think it's been pretty even, we are maybe taking a touch too many at times.
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Semedo fouls JG again!! - no card.
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Targett has played really well today.
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Semedo fouls JG again!! - no card.
Fucking joke, that has to be a yellow cxard given the ones he's given so far, pathetic ref.
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McGinn just jogged back when Wolves broke
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Close!
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Targett has played really well today.
His shit pass a few minutes ago nearly cost us. Great block though.
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Still not hit the target yet
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Really good play in the last 5 minutes or so, turn the screw Villa.
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Jack should have played that for SJM to shoot.
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Time to give AEG a run I think
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Jack should have played that for SJM to shoot.
Yes there I agree with you and Souness. He held on too long.
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is someone going to tell Deano about his gurning from the touchline ?
I cant think of another manager who pulls so many faces or awkward chewing moments
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Dean getting to grips with the real problems in the game by making us take a free kick on halfway a couple of yards further back.
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such a good player matty Cash
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Fucking linesman’s started being a twat now
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is someone going to tell Deano about his gurning from the touchline ?
I cant think of another manager who pulls so many faces or awkward chewing moments
He’s try to be the new Allardyce.
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close again
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Hit the target at last
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bloody ell we were lucky there
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thats a pen
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bloody ell we were lucky there
Very!
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damn just our luck
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Martinez motm so far for me
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theyre more likely to score, we dont have anyone to bring on that can change this
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Based on last few minutes we are going to lose this.
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AEG on for Traore.
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Based on last few minutes we are going to lose this.
We're our own worst enemy.
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AEG on for Traore.
Not before time. Traore is still not up to speed yet
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I’m not seeing much from Traore in the games he’s featured in thus far.
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Why wasn’t Donkey booked then?!?
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Why wasn’t Donkey booked then?!?
I think he was!
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Think of the players we’ve had who took some time, consistent match time to get up to speed. Don’t write Traore off yet.
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Going to be another nearly game.
Just haven't used the ball well enough in final third.
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Oh he was
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our goalie is good
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Need to stop Neto
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Fuck me. What a great save from Emi
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Great save there from Martinez.
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I will more than happily take a point
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I thought if you got a touch on the ball it wasn't a foul, hence why we didn't get a penalty against Brighton.
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Dean need to get in the fucking sea, pathetic booking for Targett, won the ball didn't seem to even make contact with Adama.
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I thought if you got a touch on the ball it wasn't a foul, hence why we didn't get a penalty against Brighton.
You're problem there is that you are applying logic and looking for consistency. Neither shall happen.
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I thought if you got a touch on the ball it wasn't a foul, hence why we didn't get a penalty against Brighton.
That rule only applies against us
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luiz off red
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I have been entertained by listening to Martinez organising his defence at free kicks.
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There you go, Doug sent off. Any excuse from Mike Dean.
Need to get Nakamba just to get this point.
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Konsa booked as well, presumably for telling Dean he's fucking shit.
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Luiz off, 2nd yellow
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Konsa booked as well, presumably for telling Dean he's fucking shit.
Going to have loads suspended over xmas, Cash and Doug out for Burnley game.
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Fucking stupid from Luiz, bloody idiot.
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Dean'll be having a wank in the changing room over that one.
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A red for us was always coming. Dean got what he wanted
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There you go, Doug sent off. Any excuse from Mike Dean.
Need to get Nakamba just to get this point.
As clear a sending off as you'll ever see.
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We were always going to get a red at some point, Dean had already made up his mind.
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I'd settle for the draw now. Hope we don't do something stupid to try to win.
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luiz off red
You posted that before I had seen it happen on BT Sport. Do we need spoiler alerts in match threads now? ;)
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There you go, Doug sent off. Any excuse from Mike Dean.
Need to get Nakamba just to get this point.
As clear a sending off as you'll ever see.
It was more he was booking ours for anything in the 1st half so red was always likely. Doug wouldn't have been off if he hadn't been booked.
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Had to go - led with the elbow. Stupid challenge.
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get nkamba on for gazi and just take the point
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luiz off red
You posted that before I had seen it happen on BT Sport. Do we need spoiler alerts in match threads now? ;)
Your BT sport is way behind mine then!
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Just waiting for the six minutes added on even though there's been no goals and two subs. Should be just two minutes added on.
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Coady looks a donkey in a back 4. He should be off aswell when you add up all his tugs and shirt pulls on Ollie.
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Just waiting for the six minutes added on even though there's been no goals and two subs. Should be just two minutes added on.
Seems to be standard 4 or 5 these days
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Our boys have picked up six bookings today.
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good cross by ramsay - come on villa- corner
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5 mins extra
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7 yellow cards and I can't think of anything bad except possibly the Luiz 2nd one. Awful ref has made the game all about himself.
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Dean is so predictable, just plays to the TV crowd all the time.
No long VAR check, two subs, no goals is 1 minute so where the hell has the extra 4 come on top of that?
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luiz off red
You posted that before I had seen it happen on BT Sport. Do we need spoiler alerts in match threads now? ;)
I was the same. Took best part of a minute!
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mings cant away with one
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Five minutes extra time.
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Podence needs a yellow for being a whiny little c**t.
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pen villa
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PENALTY!!!!!!!
I LOVE YOU MIKE DEAN.
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Penalty
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Penalty! Unless VAR says no
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el ghazi
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Come on Anwer just get it on target.
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I can't look.
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Penalty for a foul on SJM!
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
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Gooooooooooooooooooooooool!
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goal
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Yessss.
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YESSSSSSSSSSS
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Played it like Leicester away, brilliant stuff.
Big win this.
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Yesssss
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what a fucking 3 points - and great pen
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Brilliantly taken, good lad.
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another red for wolves now
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Moutinho off now.
Got to love Mike Dean!
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Hahaha get the fuck in!
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Another red card.
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I didn't fancy him to score with a two step run up but I was wrong.
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5 mins extra
Think that’s about right now 😂
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Bye bye Moutinho
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This from the BBC page: Huge chance for the 20 men to win it!
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It aye fair
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get nkamba on for gazi and just take the point
I take full credit ;D
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heres comes maarvellous
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Payback for last season, brilliant!
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3 pts - yesssss
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Fucking yes
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Haaaaahaaaaa 'ave it u yellow fuckers!
Get in!!!!
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Fucking yes, great result.
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A game with 11 yellow cards is a game that the ref has failed to manage, some needs to tell the twat to retire now.
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we re supposed to loose with ten men .... that was a fab win :) congratulatoins. so happy
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I'll take that.
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Yippee! Stick that in your Mind the Gap, dingle inbreeds.