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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on October 20, 2020, 10:33:59 PM

Title: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 20, 2020, 10:33:59 PM
Give these people your £14.95 instead:

https://astonnechells.foodbank.org.uk/
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 20, 2020, 10:41:19 PM
Good idea, done.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Bobby Boy on October 21, 2020, 01:00:25 PM
Yes, they shouldn't have to exist in a country as rich as ours but we are where we are. They do fine work. Fair play to Newcastle fans who refused to pay the PPV for their Man U game and have raised over £20000.

Donation duly made.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: simboy on October 21, 2020, 01:16:21 PM
Done
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 21, 2020, 03:22:39 PM
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Newcastle United fans donated £20,000 to charity over the weekend in protest against the Premier League's controversial pay-per-view scheme.

The Magpies' 4-1 defeat by Manchester United on Saturday was one of several Premier League games only available live in the UK for a £14.95 fee.

It applies to the five fixtures in each round of games not televised in the UK.

The "Charity Not PPV" campaign asked fans to donate to the city's West End food bank rather than pay to watch.

Supporters from a number of other clubs who have featured in pay-per-view matches - including Aston Villa, Burnley, Leeds United and Manchester United - have also been raising thousands of pounds for local food banks.

On Monday, Clarets fans raised several thousand pounds for the "Burnley FC in the Community" campaign that has been running all season, while the "Leeds United Fans Food Bank" campaign had hundreds of donations before their club's pay-per-view match against Villa on Friday.

John McCorry, the chief executive of Newcastle's West End foodbank, said donations "will make a great difference".

He added: "We so appreciate the generosity of the Newcastle fans.

"We are feeding 1,000 people a week and use 10-plus tonnes of food every month, which costs £1,700 a tonne, so these donations are really needed.

"We have had donations from London, Spain and America, so it's not just locally that the interest has gathered. It really seems to have taken off."

In October, the five Premier League fixtures per round not shown live in the UK are available for pay-per-view on BT Sport Box Office or Sky Sports Box Office.

Clubs agreed the scheme as an "interim solution" with fans still not allowed into grounds because of the coronavirus pandemic, but it has been criticised.

The campaign set up by Newcastle fans has also been replicated by fans of Leeds United and Manchester City as an alternative to paying for pay-per-view matches.

McCorry also said the donations were welcome because they are unable to raise money from fans on match days.

Bill Corcoran of the NUFC Fans Food Bank group, who organised the campaign and normally collect money for the food bank on match days, said: "The most we have ever collected outside a game was £5,800 but the response has been from all over the world.

"Someone just suggested the idea on Twitter and we thought, 'that's great, let's do it'. Whoever recommended pay-per-view, pitched it wrong. If you're a season-ticket holder and already pay for games on TV, this was the metaphorical straw that broke the camel's back.

"Rather than paying into a multi-national media company, we are paying into a charity which helps starving people in the city. The solution was obvious and the fans have shown a great deal of kindness and generosity."

Newcastle fans are also still waiting to hear whether their season ticket costs will be refunded as a result of not being able to attend games.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Gary Penrice on October 21, 2020, 03:46:22 PM
Donation made.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 21, 2020, 04:40:54 PM
Donation made
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2020, 05:06:01 PM
Done.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 21, 2020, 05:11:15 PM
Maybe worth stickying this thread?
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on October 21, 2020, 06:18:28 PM
I had no intention of paying for Friday. However, Iíll have enough to eat, so...
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: amfy on October 21, 2020, 09:34:23 PM
I was the same - was never going to spend £14.95 on the match, but I have donated it to the food bank. I reasoned that I would have spent even more if we were allowed to go to the game.
Since the pandemic, I have given a lot more to charity generally because I am spending so much less on going out.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Havencheese on October 22, 2020, 12:56:15 PM
At the start of the season I paid an annual fee of $100AUD (£54) to watch every single game in PL covering not just Villa matches. More than happy to give a bit under a third of that to a local foodbank.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: thick_mike on October 22, 2020, 09:43:03 PM
Done...wonít feel in the slightest bit guilty if I happen to stumble across the match on the Internet now.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: The Edge on October 23, 2020, 09:21:41 AM
Give these people your £14.95 instead:

https://astonnechells.foodbank.org.uk/
Brilliant initiative Dave something close to my heart. Donation sorted.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: UK Redsox on October 23, 2020, 09:51:07 AM
Leeds supporters are doing the same
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: AV82EC on October 23, 2020, 10:13:44 AM
I must admit I will be paying for PPV tonight but as I can easily afford it I've donated as well.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: TheMalandro on October 23, 2020, 10:14:25 AM
Done.

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Post by: itbrvilla on October 23, 2020, 10:32:32 AM
Done!
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Post by: not3bad on October 23, 2020, 10:06:49 PM
Donated
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Skerra on October 25, 2020, 05:02:49 PM
So, now Sky and BT are saying they never really wanted any part in the £14.95 ppv....then who the hell made them do it? They are now saying itís doesnít make their brand look good. They could of course go back to showing all the matches without ppv as fans are not going to be allowed in the grounds anytime soon. That way they could at least say they are doing something worthwhile for us fans.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 25, 2020, 05:13:28 PM
So, now Sky and BT are saying they never really wanted any part in the £14.95 ppv....then who the hell made them do it? They are now saying itís doesnít make their brand look good. They could of course go back to showing all the matches without ppv as fans are not going to be allowed in the grounds anytime soon. That way they could at least say they are doing something worthwhile for us fans.

The clubs set the price and are taking the money, bt and sky are just providing the platforms.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Skerra on October 25, 2020, 05:21:16 PM
I thought that may be the answer. Shame on all the PL clubs then with the exception of Leicester. Wish the Villa hierarchy and the other greedy clubs would just put the fans interests first just for once.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 26, 2020, 08:42:00 PM
At least 300k raised so far by fans of all clubs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54692739
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: CT on October 27, 2020, 08:16:23 AM
You know it was a bad idea when Mike Ashley says it was wrong.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: WilliamStanding on October 27, 2020, 09:35:08 AM
As hesgoal failed me I have paid for it.

Luckily our business doesnít so I lowered our Timothy Taylor by 50p and it went down a storm
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: eamonn on October 27, 2020, 10:35:10 AM
Huh?
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Dave Cooper please on October 28, 2020, 12:26:21 PM
Just seen this. Great dea, mine went to our local foodbank in Wednesbury along with our usual monthly donation of food and essentials.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: The Edge on October 29, 2020, 01:00:08 PM
Huh?
I thought it was me lol.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: in exile on October 29, 2020, 01:39:35 PM
Huh?
I thought it was me lol.
Come on, keep up...you know, the old Timothy Taylor.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: four fornicholl on October 29, 2020, 05:27:33 PM
Huh?
I thought it was me lol.
Come on, keep up...you know, the old Timothy Taylor.
Scored for West Ham in the 75 fa cup final.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Steve67 on October 29, 2020, 05:32:35 PM
I paid for it once and got what I deserved. A 0-3 thumping so I wonít be doing that again.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: four fornicholl on November 05, 2020, 06:08:26 PM
Scrapped by the end of the month, sense prevails with the premier league for a change.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: manic-road on November 05, 2020, 06:28:14 PM
Not confirmed yet but from the BBC.

The Premier League is likely to scrap the controversial pay-per-view method for matches after November's international window.

Clubs will instead look to devise a new solution that will cover the Christmas period.

A definitive decision was not taken at a shareholders' meeting on Thursday but discussions are said to be ongoing.

However, the £14.95 fee - which led to significant protests among fan groups - is expected to be dropped.

It is understood the model used in September, when all games were shown live by the Premier League's broadcast partners, is the likely direction of travel.

Pay-per-view remains on the table but a final decision is not expected this week.

In a statement, the Premier League said shareholders met on Thursday "to discuss a number of important issues", including the broadcast options for matches following the international break.

"Discussions with all stakeholders are ongoing and a broadcast solution will be announced in due course," it added.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 05, 2020, 07:00:53 PM
Could have looked at halving the fee and then giving a quarter of the takings to each of the two clubs involved which they could then distribute to the food bank of choice in their areas.

Win/win?
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: manic-road on November 15, 2020, 09:16:42 AM
Now that PPV has been scrapped the Villa are being shown on the following channels.

21st Nov Aston Villa vs Brighton - 3pm (BT Sport)

30th Nov West Ham vs Aston Villa - 8pm (Sky Sports)
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: exigo on November 15, 2020, 10:47:43 AM
Without even being slightly arsed to do the research, is that our first ever game to be televised on a Saturday at 3pm?
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2020, 01:23:49 PM
I think 1957 would probably be the first.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: exigo on November 15, 2020, 03:14:07 PM
Good point, well made.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: exigo on November 15, 2020, 03:14:36 PM
First televised league game on a Saturday at 3pm?
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2020, 03:22:19 PM
Quite possibly. Unless we have played then when a Boxing Day has fallen on a Saturday, maybe? Not sure if Boxing Day is covered by the 3pm exemption rules.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 15, 2020, 03:28:06 PM
Quite possibly. Unless we have played then when a Boxing Day has fallen on a Saturday, maybe? Not sure if Boxing Day is covered by the 3pm exemption rules.

I think, although I could be wrong, that Boxing Day is regarded the same as Saturday for TV exemption. I can't remember a televised 3pm game in any case.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2020, 03:36:18 PM
Maybe. That would explain some atrocious kick off times we've had on that day.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: placeforparks on November 16, 2020, 04:46:10 PM
First televised league game on a Saturday at 3pm?

first saturday 3pm game for 9 months as well!
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: eamonn on November 16, 2020, 10:39:29 PM
A Target last-gasp winner at ten to five would do again nicely
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: brian green on November 17, 2020, 07:56:11 AM
Excellent initiative Dave.  Well done to all supporters of it.  As a long term donor of food to a number of food banks may I put in a word for awareness of the underlying driver of much hunger being homelessness. A great deal of potential food help cannot be effective because recipients have no means of preparing cooked food. It is all part of the same problem regrettably.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: thick_mike on November 17, 2020, 07:21:17 PM
Excellent initiative Dave.  Well done to all supporters of it.  As a long term donor of food to a number of food banks may I put in a word for awareness of the underlying driver of much hunger being homelessness. A great deal of potential food help cannot be effective because recipients have no means of preparing cooked food. It is all part of the same problem regrettably.

Too true Brian. I saw in the supermarket the other day someone had put dried chickpeas in the food bank collection. Which food bank users have got 14 hours, a pressure cooker and £5 worth of gas to produce a meal from dried chickpeas?!
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 19, 2020, 12:47:38 PM
Excellent initiative Dave.  Well done to all supporters of it.  As a long term donor of food to a number of food banks may I put in a word for awareness of the underlying driver of much hunger being homelessness. A great deal of potential food help cannot be effective because recipients have no means of preparing cooked food. It is all part of the same problem regrettably.

Too true Brian. I saw in the supermarket the other day someone had put dried chickpeas in the food bank collection. Which food bank users have got 14 hours, a pressure cooker and £5 worth of gas to produce a meal from dried chickpeas?!

It's all part of the idea that whatever your situation, it's somehow your own fault. You can feed a family of four on sixpence a day if only you'd learn how.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Risso on November 19, 2020, 03:40:38 PM
Or somebody had just thoughtfully donated something nutritious out of the goodness of their heart? 
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: brian green on November 19, 2020, 08:30:51 PM
Having a good heart is not enough to solve the problem.  The hungry and the homeless need our heads as well as our hearts. In the words of the old proverb the road to hell is paved with good intent.  And just to avoid any suggestion of religiosity the hell in this context is having so many hungry and homeless people in a country stuffed with food and empty property.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 20, 2020, 01:37:36 AM
How about a doc. showing a Tory family living and eating on six pence a day? I'd sign up to watch that fucker.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Holte132 on November 20, 2020, 08:20:19 AM
I used to volunteer with my local foodbank. My job was to collect the donations from supermarkets and take them to the warehouse. One of the weirder things that have been donated is bottled water! I suspect that the person who made that donation finds the tap water in the area to be unpleasant to taste. Still a bit odd though!
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: brian green on November 20, 2020, 08:39:14 AM
Rough sleepers do not have running water on tap.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Holte132 on November 20, 2020, 11:53:19 AM
Rough sleepers do not have running water on tap.

That's true. Hadn't thought of that. Mind you, the supermarket in question was Waitrose, where a lot of the customers think that the town in question doesn't need a foodbank because people in the town aren't poor.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 21, 2020, 01:11:51 AM
Ah! "I don't need a foodbank, so no-one else does. Well no-one of any importance, anyway."
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: TheMalandro on November 21, 2020, 06:28:37 AM
How about a doc. showing a Tory family living and eating on six pence a day? I'd sign up to watch that fucker.

Perhaps you should look a bit deeper at the voting patterns in the last election.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 21, 2020, 08:23:01 PM
Can you say more?
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: in exile on November 24, 2020, 10:21:40 AM
I've got a better idea.
Take it to the politics thread.
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on November 24, 2020, 07:34:32 PM
My workplace has a collection for local food banks from time to time. People are invited to bring in donations and leave them on a table in the canteen. There is usually a fair response along with the odd strange donation.
On one occasion someone donated a shower head - brand new in the packaging!
Explain that one ??
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 24, 2020, 09:00:19 PM
Now that this thread has gone full food bank, I wonder whether my fellow Villans might be able to offer some help to a waif. I'm working with a client that wants to highlight the continuing prevalence of food banks, and I'm keen to talk to corporate sponsors/donors who are involved with funding/stocking these places.

If anyone can think, just from the top of the head, of businesses that have made this part of their CSR strategy, please do blurt the names out below (PMs are obviously also fine).

Thanks in advance (and to Dave W in retrospect).
Title: Re: Don't pay for PPV
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 24, 2020, 10:00:38 PM
I thought we'd all been told to go to the Politics Thread?
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