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Title: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 20, 2020, 01:16:44 AM
I think Leeds will be tired after the game tonight. We will need to keep working them, having them chase the ball, or rope a dope them until they wear down.

I can us winning this 2-0 - SJM, Trez
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: robbo1874 on October 20, 2020, 03:27:26 AM
I really dislike Leeds and their scummy fans, so really hope we win this one. It goes back to the LC final when a load of them (10 or so older heads tried to start trouble with 4 of us fairly young lads at a bus stop near the ground. Nothing too bad happened, but Iíve always hated them since that day. Theyíre on a par with Man U, blues and Coventry for me. So come on Villa FTF!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Villafirst on October 20, 2020, 05:42:35 AM
Leeds always start the season at 100mph. But, gradually they tend to burn out in the New Year. The lockdown in March helped them regroup and gain promotion. I can see them targeting Jack. We should win 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Axl Rose on October 20, 2020, 05:56:08 AM
A team of ridiculous hair-cutted cloggers. Great intensity, little real quality. I didn't mind them to be fair. Well, at least until Sky got involved and showered them with praise for....getting promoted?

Phillips-the Yorkshire Pirlo? More like a stumpy Carlton Palmer.

3-1 us. They're weak at the back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: dave17 on October 20, 2020, 06:03:53 AM
Leeds always start the season at 100mph. But, gradually they tend to burn out in the New Year. The lockdown in March helped them regroup and gain promotion. I can see them targeting Jack. We should win 2-1.
I completely agree. His teams always fade. The lockdown saved them last season.
Without ben white they look weaker at the back.

Ayling will try to kick him in the air. Given the policy of a booking for a bad challenge unless itís in grealish I imagine itíll be a grind but our midfield should over run them. Watching today they pushed the wide players up so a lot of responsibility for trez
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: manic-road on October 20, 2020, 07:15:49 AM
2-0 win, Leeds work hard and tire as the game goes on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Legion on October 20, 2020, 07:23:31 AM
2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: andyh on October 20, 2020, 07:37:02 AM
I desperately want to beat this lot.
There is no doubt Jack is in for a kicking as Leeds have a dirty nasty streak, despite all the man buns.

3-1 Villa.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Nev on October 20, 2020, 07:38:42 AM
I shall swim against the tide and predict our first setback. I can see a frenetic, controversial 2-2 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: fbriai on October 20, 2020, 07:39:28 AM
I think we are better than them by some way and they will be tired after last night. Thought they also looked really lightweight up front and could have played all night without producing a chance of any real note.

To win five games on the bounce would be a massive achievement. Winning four is already incredibly difficult. Would be a superb result if we can turn them over.

Heart says 2-0. Head says 1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: algy on October 20, 2020, 07:44:20 AM
Us 1-0 Them.

Wouldn't surprise me if it was a draw, but I'm going for a record-breaking 5th consecutive win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Dr Butler on October 20, 2020, 08:10:22 AM
any type of win please Villa.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Drummond on October 20, 2020, 08:12:58 AM
any type of win please Villa.

UTV
The Doc

Seconded.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: rob_bridge on October 20, 2020, 08:57:53 AM
Put the Dirties to the Sword please
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Nunkin1965 on October 20, 2020, 08:59:08 AM
Leeds seem like a completely 100% effort side but with a random success rate which makes them dangerous opponents.
Iím going for yet another Villa win though because I think weíll provide the decisive quality when it matters.
2-0 to The History Boys.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: dicedlam on October 20, 2020, 09:26:36 AM
Who is the ref for this one? Because I can see Jack getting a good kicking from Ayling. Just hope the ref clamps down on any fouls quickly.

2-0 Jack and Ollie.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lsvilla on October 20, 2020, 09:36:33 AM
Who is the ref for this one? Because I can see Jack getting a good kicking from Ayling. Just hope the ref clamps down on any fouls quickly.

2-0 Jack and Ollie.
Not announced until later today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: brontebilly on October 20, 2020, 09:47:49 AM
I'm confident also. The extra days rest is to our benefit and I think Leeds gung ho approach will suit our counter attacking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: DennisHodgetts on October 20, 2020, 10:01:15 AM
This is the sort of opportunity to create some more history for Dean with the first 5 games in the top flight as W's and hopefully an award for him for October.  Off the back of beating Liverpool and Leicester, we should be really up for putting a comfortable win past a newly promoted team who we should be able to counterattack as they go at us at 100 mph early doors. 3-0 for me and, send a message to the doubters that we are back and mean business this year. ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 20, 2020, 10:05:51 AM
I may be scarred by years of mediocrity (during the good times), but I see this kind of confidence as ending only one way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 20, 2020, 10:23:24 AM
I wasn't that impressed with their keeper last night. That one save he was being praised for where it was smashed at him, I think these days we'd have had a Johnny-on-the-spot to put that away when he pushed it out into two yards of space.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 20, 2020, 10:32:38 AM
The great thing about Man bun Fashion victims  is that you donít have to waste anytime speaking to them to know that they are complete and utter wankers,
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Risso on October 20, 2020, 10:32:49 AM
Well even a 0-0 bore draw takes us top, and nobody playing on Saturday could overtake us unless Liverpool got into double figures against Sheffield United..  But a win takes us 6 points clear of 5th, which after 5 games would be quite remarkable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 20, 2020, 10:35:50 AM
A resounding win for the Village against the Whites.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 20, 2020, 10:39:41 AM
We really have to be at it from the start. Attack their weaknesses, Ayling in particular. Theyíre no mugs Leeds but if we are focused like against Liverpool we should be too strong for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Big Ming on October 20, 2020, 10:40:32 AM
Please let them try the high press.

Pretty please.

PS: If we win this, no 'Manager of the Month' curse for Deano please. Things are going too well!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Bobby Boy on October 20, 2020, 10:49:49 AM
Our confidence is sky high, our best 11 are all fit and well so the portents are good.

Leeds will be at us early but weather that and we should be OK.

Hope ref gets on top of any Grealish targeting early.

2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 20, 2020, 10:49:58 AM
We really have to be at it from the start. Attack their weaknesses, Ayling in particular. Theyíre no mugs Leeds but if we are focused like against Liverpool we should be too strong for them.

I only managed to watch the first half last night but they made the ball do the running, it was like they had one eye on our game. I think some need a rethink on them being knackered for our game, Bielsa teams are always super fit. They certainly had Wolves on the back foot for most of the half.

I've gone for a draw. Who takes our penalties now?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Risso on October 20, 2020, 10:52:37 AM
We really have to be at it from the start. Attack their weaknesses, Ayling in particular. Theyíre no mugs Leeds but if we are focused like against Liverpool we should be too strong for them.

I only managed to watch the first half last night but they made the ball do the running, it was like they had one eye on our game. I think some need a rethink on them being knackered for our game, Bielsa teams are always super fit. They certainly had Wolves on the back foot for most of the half.

I've gone for a draw. Who takes our penalties now?

They noticeably ran out of steam second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Breezeblock on October 20, 2020, 11:18:49 AM
I'm voting for a Leeds win and hopefully continueing my 100% losing streak so far this season :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: fbriai on October 20, 2020, 11:23:44 AM
Interesting to look at the line-ups from the last time we played them, the 1-1 at their place with that goal.

Casilla, Ayling, Jansson, Cooper, Dallas, Phillips, Hernandez, Forshaw, Klich, Harrison, Bamford

6 of those are still in their starting line-up, while Hernandez came on off the bench and Cooper would have been starting had he not been injured.

Steer, Elmo, Taylor, Mings, Tuanzebe, Grealish, Hourihane, McGinn, El Ghazi, Kodjia, Green

Only Mings, Grealish and McGinn still starters for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Legion on October 20, 2020, 11:26:50 AM
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: The Edge on October 20, 2020, 11:26:57 AM
I see Gabby's been ruffling a few feathers on Twitter. After last night's result he's tweeted "Leeds are a myth. Now perhaps people can get out of Bielsa's arse"
Apparently aimed at tv & radio pundits who seem to be having a Leeds love in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: darren woolley on October 20, 2020, 11:27:01 AM
2-1 Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Baldy on October 20, 2020, 11:32:11 AM
We will match Leeds for effort and our quality will shine through. 2-0 to the Villa.  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 20, 2020, 11:55:44 AM
They did seem to get a bit of a second wind towards the death, but around the 67 minute mark they looked noticeably worn down, including mentally. Their passing got very sloppy. I've just had a quick look, and only one of their goals so far has been scored in the last quarter of games. And I know I've not watched their games and I know we've not exactly scored loads past the hour mark, but we have still very much looked a threat late on in all our games so far. Show their work rate due respect early on, but there's rewards to be had later on, I'm certain.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lsvilla on October 20, 2020, 12:41:35 PM
Who is the ref for this one? Because I can see Jack getting a good kicking from Ayling. Just hope the ref clamps down on any fouls quickly.

2-0 Jack and Ollie.
Not announced until later today.
Paul Tierney with Stuart Attwell on VAR.  Cross everything Tierney doesnít go down in the warm-up as Mike Dean is fourth official.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Bobby Boy on October 20, 2020, 12:43:50 PM
Who is the ref for this one? Because I can see Jack getting a good kicking from Ayling. Just hope the ref clamps down on any fouls quickly.

2-0 Jack and Ollie.
Not announced until later today.
Paul Tierney with Stuart Attwell on VAR.  Cross everything Tierney doesnít go down in the warm-up as Mike Dean is fourth official.

Tierney's OK. Could be worse. Could be 'Sorry did I miss a foul?' Coote and Oliver.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: RichardBatchelor on October 20, 2020, 01:06:07 PM
I really dislike Leeds and their scummy fans, so really hope we win this one. It goes back to the LC final when a load of them (10 or so older heads tried to start trouble with 4 of us fairly young lads at a bus stop near the ground. Nothing too bad happened, but Iíve always hated them since that day. Theyíre on a par with Man U, blues and Coventry for me. So come on Villa FTF!


I get and share Man U and Blues but who are Coventry? Never heard of 'em.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: The Edge on October 20, 2020, 01:26:32 PM
Our confidence is sky high, our best 11 are all fit and well so the portents are good.

Leeds will be at us early but weather that and we should be OK.

Hope ref gets on top of any Grealish targeting early.

2-1 Villa.
I can guarantee you right now that Jack won't get any protection from the referee. Castagne must've clobbered him 20 times the other night before the ref finally did the right thing. It's my biggest fear for us this season. All the clobberings Jack takes will eventually take their toll and we will lose him for a chunk of the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Mister E on October 20, 2020, 01:29:57 PM
As a long-term resident of Yorkshire, it almost goes without saying that this is a MASSIVE game. I have several Leeds-supporting friends who are reasonable and decent folk, but I have been to enough games at E Road to know that the vast majority of their supporters are total *******.
They are a tough team to grind down and a draw would not surprise me; but, we have enough quality to make history.


And, we need to accumulate as many points as we can before the injuries, suspensions and form-drops start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: brontebilly on October 20, 2020, 01:54:53 PM
Our confidence is sky high, our best 11 are all fit and well so the portents are good.

Leeds will be at us early but weather that and we should be OK.

Hope ref gets on top of any Grealish targeting early.

2-1 Villa.
I can guarantee you right now that Jack won't get any protection from the referee. Castagne must've clobbered him 20 times the other night before the ref finally did the right thing. It's my biggest fear for us this season. All the clobberings Jack takes will eventually take their toll and we will lose him for a chunk of the season.

I'd like to see Mings in the referees ear from the start on this on Friday. Sure Jack buys frees, some of the very soft/dive variety but lots of others are just fouls and bad ones at that. There was one early on the other night where Castagne lashed at the back of his calves/achilles with his left foot with no chance of getting the ball. If he got a yellow for that, then he doesn't attempt to get close to Jack for the rest of the game. Odoi was at the same craic against Fulham, all well and good commentators joking about the number of fouls on Jack but it's time some our more experienced players got on the refs case a bit more. Something Glenn Whelan was very good at.
If Ayling gets a yellow early Friday night, he will be very short odds to get a red.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Risso on October 20, 2020, 01:58:07 PM
As a long-term resident of Yorkshire, it almost goes without saying that this is a MASSIVE game. I have several Leeds-supporting friends who are reasonable and decent folk, but I have been to enough games at E Road to know that the vast majority of their supporters are total *******.
They are a tough team to grind down and a draw would not surprise me; but, we have enough quality to make history.


And, we need to accumulate as many points as we can before the injuries, suspensions and form-drops start.

Going to watch this in the pub with a couple of Villa mates and one Leeds supporter.  The Leeds lad is one of the nicest people you could ever wish to meet to be fair, which I put down to him having lived away from there for 20 years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Monty on October 20, 2020, 02:11:00 PM
Am now officially spoiled and would be disappointed if we didn't win this. They always play the same way with that high line and that pressure on the ball, but we can absolutely beat that press with the range of passing and and dynamic running in the team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: CT Villan on October 20, 2020, 02:23:09 PM
The only good thing about Leeds is Bielsa.

Really want to win this one so Dean and the boys can make history. A draw would be a little disappointing but not the end of the world...my how perspectives have changed :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 20, 2020, 02:51:43 PM
Think we'll win this 3-1. Leeds put plenty of effort in first half last night to no reward and then flagged a fair bit in second so they'll find it difficult to recover.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: JUAN PABLO on October 20, 2020, 04:04:50 PM
Villa 4 Leeds 1


            bremner 15
barkley 64
mcginn 75
grealish 82
watkins  88   
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Mister E on October 20, 2020, 05:17:36 PM
As a long-term resident of Yorkshire, it almost goes without saying that this is a MASSIVE game. I have several Leeds-supporting friends who are reasonable and decent folk, but I have been to enough games at E Road to know that the vast majority of their supporters are total *******.
They are a tough team to grind down and a draw would not surprise me; but, we have enough quality to make history.
And, we need to accumulate as many points as we can before the injuries, suspensions and form-drops start.
Going to watch this in the pub with a couple of Villa mates and one Leeds supporter.  The Leeds lad is one of the nicest people you could ever wish to meet to be fair, which I put down to him having lived away from there for 20 years.
;D ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Chris Smith on October 20, 2020, 05:23:04 PM
Just had a BBC alert pop up to say Philips out for 6 weeks with a shoulder injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: LeeB on October 20, 2020, 05:26:01 PM
Just had a BBC alert pop up to say Philips out for 6 weeks with a shoulder injury.

Whoever it was that reversed our injury curse in the summer and put it out opponents deserves high praise.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: LukeJames on October 20, 2020, 05:30:08 PM
Just had a BBC alert pop up to say Philips out for 6 weeks with a shoulder injury.

I noticed he went down holding it and looked in some pain for a few minutes aferwards.

I don't know who will replace him but for me he's almost as over rated as Jonjo Shelvey. An Ashley Westwood level player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Big Ming on October 20, 2020, 05:42:10 PM
Just had a BBC alert pop up to say Philips out for 6 weeks with a shoulder injury.

Oh No!

Whose bun will we deflect our winning goal off?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 20, 2020, 05:51:08 PM
Just had a BBC alert pop up to say Philips out for 6 weeks with a shoulder injury.

Whoever it was that reversed our injury curse in the summer and put it out opponents deserves high praise.

I know. My fear is it will all balance out and we will lose half our squad come January.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 20, 2020, 05:52:24 PM
I would love to see us completely overrun their midfield on Friday. Push them back and take full advantage of the defensive cover he would have given them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 20, 2020, 06:05:59 PM
He gets slagged off on here but I think he's a good player. Big miss for them, Villa being spawny as usual. 12 pages on smalltimealliance.com by the time our servants bring supper. 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 20, 2020, 06:07:25 PM
he is a good player - he'd be a good squad player for us :)

this will be another tricky 1-0 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: four fornicholl on October 20, 2020, 06:19:25 PM
This is going to be tricky, I think we all know that, 2-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Bobby Boy on October 20, 2020, 06:26:05 PM
Phillips is a big miss for them.  Gives them a lot of their midfield drive and aggression. Feeling good about this game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Harvevillain on October 20, 2020, 06:58:34 PM
Watched them last night, look like a poor man's Liverpool to me, press a lot, play a high line (good for us) attack a lot but seem to have a 3rd rate striker in Bamford, well lout of his depth.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 20, 2020, 07:16:26 PM
Phillips is a big loss for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: themossman on October 20, 2020, 07:23:43 PM
This will be an interesting one. If they play their game we could murder them Liverpool style. But Bielsa will do his homework and is cannier than Dean, so itís a good test of whether this team can be neutralised. Personally I donít think it can if our midfield all play well. Too many ways to hurt opponents.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 20, 2020, 07:25:18 PM
Just fuck these man bun fuckers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: martyn ellis on October 20, 2020, 07:45:43 PM
Just had a BBC alert pop up to say Philips out for 6 weeks with a shoulder injury.

Whoever it was that reversed our injury curse in the summer and put it out opponents deserves high praise.

I know. My fear is it will all balance out and we will lose half our squad come January.
At the rate we are going we'll lose half our squad before long to yellow cards - McGinn already has 3 in 4 games and there a few others with 2. With not much of a 'backup team', that could be serious.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: richtheholtender on October 20, 2020, 08:03:02 PM
Just had a BBC alert pop up to say Philips out for 6 weeks with a shoulder injury.



The thinking behind this is to get all the 1 game suspension out the way in one go. That way, we always have our strongest side out and they get a rest every 5 games 😊

Whoever it was that reversed our injury curse in the summer and put it out opponents deserves high praise.

I know. My fear is it will all balance out and we will lose half our squad come January.
At the rate we are going we'll lose half our squad before long to yellow cards - McGinn already has 3 in 4 games and there a few others with 2. With not much of a 'backup team', that could be serious.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: gpbarr on October 20, 2020, 08:16:41 PM
Dangerous game this - they have impressed me but not as much as Villa have. Can see a few goals too - player for player we have the edge and should have enough if we are on our game.

3-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: SaddVillan on October 20, 2020, 08:23:20 PM
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-uniteds-kalvin-phillips-ruled-out-shoulder-injury-surgery-not-required-3009721

Thanks Wolves.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: stevo_st on October 20, 2020, 08:24:55 PM
Surprised Leeds didnít keep him being out a secret
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 20, 2020, 08:28:55 PM
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-uniteds-kalvin-phillips-ruled-out-shoulder-injury-surgery-not-required-3009721

Thanks Wolves.

That's a shame.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 20, 2020, 08:46:02 PM
I shall swim against the tide and predict our first setback. I can see a frenetic, controversial 2-2 draw.

This for me as well although I have predicted a Villa defeat and will go offline after 8 mins as I've done ever since the Arsenal game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Bad English on October 20, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
3-1 FTDLMBF!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: nordenvillain on October 20, 2020, 09:13:32 PM
2-0. Cagey 1st half and we come good in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: CT on October 20, 2020, 09:44:50 PM
Just fuck these man bun fuckers.

In the absence of any tactics, that would be my team talk before the lads go out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: ldavfc4eva on October 20, 2020, 09:50:14 PM
Just win lads

I fucking hate Leeds

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: RamboandBruno on October 20, 2020, 10:30:28 PM
Think they will come out of the blocks and have a go at us early doors, try and boss the game, we have to be ready for that. We havenít gone behind yet this season, wouldnít surprise if we do on Friday, then the test will be how we react.
2-1 after coming from behind, Watkins and grealish.

After spending £15 on Sunday to watch the match, decided Iím far better off spending my money watching this at my sons footie club, few beers for me and coke and crisps for him, old school. I really hope we do this lot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Des Little on October 20, 2020, 10:36:47 PM
Hate Leeds.

Home win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Mister E on October 21, 2020, 08:29:46 AM
3-1 FTDLMBF!
Excellent consonant retch!
They'll always be DL for me.

And the MB current style is repulsive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Mister E on October 21, 2020, 08:31:35 AM
https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-uniteds-kalvin-phillips-ruled-out-shoulder-injury-surgery-not-required-3009721
Thanks Wolves.
Phillips' absence may mean a start for Pablo Hernandez, a much more subtle and effective distributor. However, less fit and easier to manipulate.  One less man-bun as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: robbo1874 on October 21, 2020, 08:43:41 AM
I really dislike Leeds and their scummy fans, so really hope we win this one. It goes back to the LC final when a load of them (10 or so older heads tried to start trouble with 4 of us fairly young lads at a bus stop near the ground. Nothing too bad happened, but Iíve always hated them since that day. Theyíre on a par with Man U, blues and Coventry for me. So come on Villa FTF!


I get and share Man U and Blues but who are Coventry? Never heard of 'em.
yeah I know, but Iím from Nuneaton. Thereís quite a few Cov supporting wankers in that town. And if youíve ever been unlucky enough to have a night out in Coventry, youíd understand. We used to mainly avoid it, preferring Leicester- lot more chilled out - and Brum as we got a bit older and in to the clubbing. Thereís a Cov fan I know in Brisbane who I used to get along with and have a few beers with. He showed his true colours though and I donít see him now. His mrs is a dog head - lovely lady. They used to be pretty good value, but the anti- Villa nonsense was never far from the surface with Steve. Didnít help weíre both fairly passive aggressive. Quite a prominent trait in that part of the Midlands unfortunately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: manic-road on October 21, 2020, 08:51:24 AM


This will be McGinn talking to Lukas Ayling Friday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 21, 2020, 09:24:58 AM
Who is the ref for this one? Because I can see Jack getting a good kicking from Ayling. Just hope the ref clamps down on any fouls quickly.

2-0 Jack and Ollie.
Not announced until later today.
Paul Tierney with Stuart Attwell on VAR.  Cross everything Tierney doesnít go down in the warm-up as Mike Dean is fourth official.

I have to say I found Jon Moss awful towards a lot of Villa on Sunday.
Really didn't like his attitude towards Grealish in particular
Anyhow let's hope Play off final ref gives us proper decisions from the upteemth fouls and potential red cards Leeds will have

Who is on pens now that's the question ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 21, 2020, 11:36:01 AM
Welcome back, F-V.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: exigo on October 21, 2020, 12:57:04 PM
Seemed really noticeable on Sunday that we went out of our way before both halves to be smiley and chatty with the ref in the tunnel. Fat lot of good it did mind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: maidstonevillain on October 21, 2020, 01:21:45 PM
Seemed really noticeable on Sunday that we went out of our way before both halves to be smiley and chatty with the ref in the tunnel. Fat lot of good it did mind.

You don't know what he would have been like if they had not been chatty and smiley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 21, 2020, 01:31:34 PM
Seemed really noticeable on Sunday that we went out of our way before both halves to be smiley and chatty with the ref in the tunnel. Fat lot of good it did mind.

I remember Graham Poll refereeing us v Chelsea at Stamford Bridge giving a free kick to them in a dangerous position. He was all chatty and smiles with Terry. When one of ours started to discuss the position the kick was being taken from he gave him the most evil look and made to grab a card for such insolence interrupting his conversation with the England centre half. Poll, Winter, Dowd to name but a few only had time for the star players.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Damo70 on October 21, 2020, 02:07:02 PM
Seemed really noticeable on Sunday that we went out of our way before both halves to be smiley and chatty with the ref in the tunnel. Fat lot of good it did mind.

I remember Graham Poll refereeing us v Chelsea at Stamford Bridge giving a free kick to them in a dangerous position. He was all chatty and smiles with Terry. When one of ours started to discuss the position the kick was being taken from he gave him the most evil look and made to grab a card for such insolence interrupting his conversation with the England centre half. Poll, Winter, Dowd to name but a few only had time for the star players.

Graham Poll was definitely star struck when it came to Arsenal. As was Phillip Don with Liverpool back in the day which is why he gave us f*ck all in the quarter final at Anfield in 1992.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Damo70 on October 21, 2020, 02:25:49 PM
Villa win. Despite the Leeds media love in I think they will finish closer to bottom place than they will to top place at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: avfcpg on October 21, 2020, 02:34:16 PM
Seemed really noticeable on Sunday that we went out of our way before both halves to be smiley and chatty with the ref in the tunnel. Fat lot of good it did mind.
To be fair, he could have given a foul on Jack in the build up to the goal, but played a great advantage....
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: paul_e on October 21, 2020, 02:34:21 PM
This is an interesting one. Philips being out weakens them, their style of play in most games so far seems setup to be exactly how we'd want them to play, most of their attacking threat seems to be on their left where Cash and Trez do a fantastic job defensively.

All of that means we should be looking at it as a comfortable win but I have a niggly feeling that it'll be harder than that. I've gone for a win and I should be really confident of it but I don't like it when everything seems so stacked in our favour. I'll go for a 4-1 win because that's about how, logically, I see the game going, but I'd be happy to keep the unbeaten run going to match Everton after 5.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Drummond on October 21, 2020, 02:38:42 PM
This is one of those games. We're in form, against a promoted side. We should win and therefore....
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2020, 03:00:55 PM
This is one of those games. We're in form, against a promoted side. We should win and therefore....

Your doubt is just your faith in disapointment.

6-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Hockley Lion on October 21, 2020, 04:04:11 PM
Hate is too strong for me, but I have disliked Leeds Utd FC intensly since the Don Revie days. Now they're back. They flatter to deceive and always have done. They're dirty, cynical and proud to be so. They wouldn't have it any other way. "We are Leeds, WE ARE LEEDS" yeah, yeah so what!
 
I'm going 4-0 because I want to keep a clean sheet. It'll be niggly but I think they'll be more worried about us and what we might be capable of.

Utv!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Drummond on October 21, 2020, 04:52:35 PM
This is one of those games. We're in form, against a promoted side. We should win and therefore....

Your doubt is just your faith in disapointment.

6-1 Villa.

Thanks Confucious.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: LukeJames on October 21, 2020, 07:11:03 PM
I wish Gabby would keep it shut, slagging any opponent off in the build up to a game is fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Steve kirk on October 21, 2020, 07:28:51 PM
I really dislike Leeds and their scummy fans, so really hope we win this one. It goes back to the LC final when a load of them (10 or so older heads tried to start trouble with 4 of us fairly young lads at a bus stop near the ground. Nothing too bad happened, but Iíve always hated them since that day. Theyíre on a par with Man U, blues and Coventry for me. So come on Villa FTF!


I get and share Man U and Blues but who are Coventry? Never heard of 'em.
yeah I know, but Iím from Nuneaton. Thereís quite a few Cov supporting wankers in that town. And if youíve ever been unlucky enough to have a night out in Coventry, youíd understand. We used to mainly avoid it, preferring Leicester- lot more chilled out - and Brum as we got a bit older and in to the clubbing. Thereís a Cov fan I know in Brisbane who I used to get along with and have a few beers with. He showed his true colours though and I donít see him now. His mrs is a dog head - lovely lady. They used to be pretty good value, but the anti- Villa nonsense was never far from the surface with Steve. Didnít help weíre both fairly passive aggressive. Quite a prominent trait in that part of the Midlands unfortunately.

I was born in Brum but my parents moved to Coventry when I was quite young, we went down in 1967 as they arrived in the top flight for the first time, until 1975 when we finally made it back I never felt any animosity towards Villa from Cov City fans but that changed when we embarked on a very long unbeaten run against them, the hatred grew year on year, as a brummie living there and drinking in their pubs you could really feel it and itís still there today, I expect they were very upset with our last day escape, I wish nothing but the worst for them, vile horrible club.
Ps I left Coventry in 1988 and a few years later returned to Brum 😀
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: robbo1874 on October 21, 2020, 09:36:45 PM
They should be nicknamed blues-lite rather than sky blues
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 21, 2020, 09:57:19 PM
I'm pretty confident. Wolves showed the way to do it on Monday with getting control of game from half time and Leeds really didn't offer much when 1 down.

Phillips out is a big blow as they have other CBs out and not much cover so going to have to rejig their backline around as seems a CB will fill in his role.

Think we'll win this and go top and then the danger game is Southampton who we really struggled to counter their manic press home and away last season.

Don't gift away cheap goals which we haven't done so far and I think it will be pretty comfortable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2020, 10:19:23 PM
They should be nicknamed blues-lite rather than sky blues

Sky Lose.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: FatSam on October 21, 2020, 11:32:57 PM
As a fanbase they do come across as very self-important considering their relatively modest impact on the game. I think it might be due to being the only club in a one-club city. There aren't fans of other clubs on their doorstep to help knock the corners off theirs. I think it might also be due to them overcompensating for the tainted nature of their most successful period.

Having just checked, they only joined the league in 1921, and have spent 50 seasons in the top flight (54%), 39 in the second (42%), and 3 in the third (4%). They were obviously consistently successful over a 10-year period between the mid-60s and mid-70s, which neatly coincides with our worst period - perhaps why there hasn't ever been a particular rivalry.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 21, 2020, 11:36:23 PM
I'm very grateful to Derby for beating them in the playoff semi-final. I think they had our number that year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: dave17 on October 22, 2020, 04:32:31 AM
I'm very grateful to Derby for beating them in the playoff semi-final. I think they had our number that year.
Old man and I talked about taht today. Was helpful derby came to wembley with 0 plan and belief. If only mason mo....
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: steamer on October 22, 2020, 07:55:41 AM
I really dislike Leeds and their scummy fans, so really hope we win this one. It goes back to the LC final when a load of them (10 or so older heads tried to start trouble with 4 of us fairly young lads at a bus stop near the ground. Nothing too bad happened, but Iíve always hated them since that day. Theyíre on a par with Man U, blues and Coventry for me. So come on Villa FTF!


I get and share Man U and Blues but who are Coventry? Never heard of 'em.
yeah I know, but Iím from Nuneaton. Thereís quite a few Cov supporting wankers in that town. And if youíve ever been unlucky enough to have a night out in Coventry, youíd understand. We used to mainly avoid it, preferring Leicester- lot more chilled out - and Brum as we got a bit older and in to the clubbing. Thereís a Cov fan I know in Brisbane who I used to get along with and have a few beers with. He showed his true colours though and I donít see him now. His mrs is a dog head - lovely lady. They used to be pretty good value, but the anti- Villa nonsense was never far from the surface with Steve. Didnít help weíre both fairly passive aggressive. Quite a prominent trait in that part of the Midlands unfortunately.

I was born in Brum but my parents moved to Coventry when I was quite young, we went down in 1967 as they arrived in the top flight for the first time, until 1975 when we finally made it back I never felt any animosity towards Villa from Cov City fans but that changed when we embarked on a very long unbeaten run against them, the hatred grew year on year, as a brummie living there and drinking in their pubs you could really feel it and itís still there today, I expect they were very upset with our last day escape, I wish nothing but the worst for them, vile horrible club.
Ps I left Coventry in 1988 and a few years later returned to Brum 😀
what school did you go to Steve
Iwas there at the same time as you
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 22, 2020, 08:19:19 AM
Itís their fans attitude that somehow after 16 years missing they;re suddenly relevant, most young fans of premier league clubs donít even know who they are. Fuck em
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 22, 2020, 08:45:19 AM
Itís their fans attitude that somehow after 16 years missing they;re suddenly relevant, most young fans of premier league clubs donít even know who they are. Fuck em

I do think my favourite stat regarding world events that happened in their last generational absence is that the mighty, mighty Norwich managed to get promoted and then relegated again four times.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: brontebilly on October 22, 2020, 11:27:06 AM
I'm very grateful to Derby for beating them in the playoff semi-final. I think they had our number that year.
Old man and I talked about taht today. Was helpful derby came to wembley with 0 plan and belief. If only mason mo....

I think we were massively helped by Lampards tactics on the day too...anyway we won!

Would the Leeds fanbase be regarded as one of the scumiest in Britain?

On the field, its going to be a fairly physical encounter on Friday night I expect...I think we should have too much for them once our lads keep their heads
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 22, 2020, 11:32:42 AM
Having just checked, they only joined the league in 1921, and have spent 50 seasons in the top flight (54%), 39 in the second (42%), and 3 in the third (4%). They were obviously consistently successful over a 10-year period between the mid-60s and mid-70s, which neatly coincides with our worst period - perhaps why there hasn't ever been a particular rivalry.

Leeds have been playing at Elland Road since 1905 but did a Rangers, went out of business (Leeds City) in 1919 and only reformed in 1921 (Leeds United). In my books they've spent more seasons in the 2nd Division than the top flight. 'Back where we belong' they claim; let's hope so come May.

I wish I was as confident as most on here, I've got us down for a draw but now think we'll lose 1-2. They're not half as bad as some would pretend them to be. I pray I've got this one wrong.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 22, 2020, 11:36:58 AM
I can see a loss too, although I'm always wrong.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Monty on October 22, 2020, 11:37:22 AM
Having just checked, they only joined the league in 1921, and have spent 50 seasons in the top flight (54%), 39 in the second (42%), and 3 in the third (4%). They were obviously consistently successful over a 10-year period between the mid-60s and mid-70s, which neatly coincides with our worst period - perhaps why there hasn't ever been a particular rivalry.

Leeds have been playing at Elland Road since 1905 but did a Rangers, went out of business (Leeds City) in 1919 and only reformed in 1921 (Leeds United). In my books they've spent more seasons in the 2nd Division than the top flight. 'Back where we belong' they claim; let's hope so come May.

I wish I was as confident as most on here, I've got us down for a draw but now think we'll lose 1-2. They're not half as bad as some would pretend them to be. I pray I've got this one wrong.

No they are pretty good, Bielsa can get a tune out of anyone early in a season. I just think that we have the exact weapons that hurt them the most.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 22, 2020, 11:57:30 AM
I can see a loss too, although I'm always wrong.

True. That does bring me some comfort.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Risso on October 22, 2020, 12:00:19 PM
Just get Damo to lump on Leeds.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 22, 2020, 12:14:18 PM
No chance ! And I'll promise I won't go I told you so after!!

I can see a loss too, although I'm always wrong.

True. That does bring me some comfort.

Heres why we win:
Well thinking on it the fushion of formations 4-1-3-1 and 4-4-2 , 4-1-4-1 will be deployed by Deano and actually the sort of support striker role Barkely will play really offers chances for goals and creates a lot of problems for Leeds especially without Phillips.

So actually I think just like against Liverpool  , Villa will start front foot and have 2 attackers in Watkins and Barkley , maybe McGinn too pressing on their back line. Certainly 2 strikers on the defence.
And a likely early goal will be the wish and preference  for Smith. Then Leeds will really have issues.

Just how Man City started and didn't give Leeds time to settle villa will be looking to do the same.

Then once ahead take our chances unlike Man City did and also push on for counter attacks as Leeds come to attack

Just like Liverpool though they will be continuously exposed and its a case of making the right choice by Villa in final third and scoring our chances that will come about.

On the defensive side I feel the positions being held across the back four and the little room villa will allow , just like we did , v Liverpool  will see Leeds real big chances few and far between.
For me Dean will go on the offensive and be organised and positional sound in defence and midfield without the ball.

In fact we've been well organised and drilled for each match for a while so having the positional discipline isn't the issue

I certainly feel good about this one as the set up by Dean its his  zenith vs Leeds . So Leeds players will be left all a bit lost as to what to do.
As every time they go forward they will be at most vulnerable and just as Villa were against Liverpool  every time going forward we'll create and have chances of scoring.
Leeds only play 3 at the back if playing 2 strikers yet Villa system means we essentially have Watkins as a striker with Barkley or McGinn pushing on so Leeds be confused to what to deploy at the back . Looking forward to the spaces created and room behind their full backs so at times we'll have 4 up front!!

Its actually  a watershed moment , again, for everyone outside Villa to recognise Dean Smith genius and that Villa should be getting many plaudits after our 5th straight win

Because we have the beauty of various ways of playing this match and how to play though the best way is to attack them from the outset and be organised in defence.
For me I can imagine Smith really enjoying the preparation for this one as the only way Leeds play will play into our hands whichever way Villa go about things.


Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Risso on October 22, 2020, 12:16:02 PM
TL:DR.  We're just better than them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on October 22, 2020, 12:19:28 PM
We're better than them, but can win only if we match their effort and workrate from start to finish!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 22, 2020, 12:30:47 PM
Ok my last post on this till after the victory if Villa don't score 5+ by full time! You can enjoy a footy-Vs insight free month ! And I'll work on improving conjecture to football reality with a month off .
Reasonable expectation from my pre match analysis.
I can only see a heavy win.
That is all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: LeeB on October 22, 2020, 12:50:39 PM
I think it will be similar to Sunday, where Leicester hustled early doors without much threat and then gradually we took over when they couldn't keep it up.

The same kind of match, just with more goals, for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: KevinGage on October 22, 2020, 01:21:52 PM
Had Leedzzz gone up with Grayson, Heckingbottom or any of the other damned of recent years there would be little fanfare or celebration on their return.

They'd have been treated like Derby, Sunderland et al. Medium>big clubs historically, but still underwhelming. Maybe one lead story on Football Focus and that's it for a while.

But it's Bielsa Bielsa.

I get it, when you see his background and the likes of Guardiola and Pochettino citing him as an influence. There's also a sense that he can be volatile in the extreme and one disagreement over transfers or owt else and he could be off, so the press want to make the most of his time here.

Hopefully we'll do them 7-2 and he hits the road the day after.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Damo70 on October 22, 2020, 01:47:26 PM
Just get Damo to lump on Leeds.

I do win sometimes you know. I'm not Robbie Box (one for the teenagers there).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Steve kirk on October 22, 2020, 04:31:54 PM
I really dislike Leeds and their scummy fans, so really hope we win this one. It goes back to the LC final when a load of them (10 or so older heads tried to start trouble with 4 of us fairly young lads at a bus stop near the ground. Nothing too bad happened, but Iíve always hated them since that day. Theyíre on a par with Man U, blues and Coventry for me. So come on Villa FTF!


I get and share Man U and Blues but who are Coventry? Never heard of 'em.
yeah I know, but Iím from Nuneaton. Thereís quite a few Cov supporting wankers in that town. And if youíve ever been unlucky enough to have a night out in Coventry, youíd understand. We used to mainly avoid it, preferring Leicester- lot more chilled out - and Brum as we got a bit older and in to the clubbing. Thereís a Cov fan I know in Brisbane who I used to get along with and have a few beers with. He showed his true colours though and I donít see him now. His mrs is a dog head - lovely lady. They used to be pretty good value, but the anti- Villa nonsense was never far from the surface with Steve. Didnít help weíre both fairly passive aggressive. Quite a prominent trait in that part of the Midlands unfortunately.

I was born in Brum but my parents moved to Coventry when I was quite young, we went down in 1967 as they arrived in the top flight for the first time, until 1975 when we finally made it back I never felt any animosity towards Villa from Cov City fans but that changed when we embarked on a very long unbeaten run against them, the hatred grew year on year, as a brummie living there and drinking in their pubs you could really feel it and itís still there today, I expect they were very upset with our last day escape, I wish nothing but the worst for them, vile horrible club.
Ps I left Coventry in 1988 and a few years later returned to Brum 😀
what school did you go to Steve
Iwas there at the same time as you

I went to Coundon Junior school and then Barkers Butts secondary modern school (I failed my eleven plus 😀)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: eamonn on October 22, 2020, 06:47:45 PM
Ok my last post on this till after the victory if Villa don't score 5+ by full time! You can enjoy a footy-Vs insight free month ! And I'll work on improving conjecture to football reality with a month off .
Reasonable expectation from my pre match analysis.
I can only see a heavy win.
That is all.

We want you here so less of the threats to leave, please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 22, 2020, 06:58:55 PM
Just noticed this game is on BT Sports Box Office WWE... surely that gives Dirty Leeds an unfair advantage?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: four fornicholl on October 22, 2020, 07:04:41 PM
Just get Damo to lump on Leeds.

I do win sometimes you know. I'm not Robbie Box (one for the teenagers there).
I call almost all girls princess because of Robbie.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Monty on October 22, 2020, 07:30:57 PM
Just noticed this game is on BT Sports Box Office WWE... surely that gives Dirty Leeds an unfair advantage?

Surely the advantage goes to the better divers?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Ads on October 22, 2020, 08:16:52 PM
Their goalkeeper:

"Okay, Aston Villa have had four games and four wins. But now we are Leeds, we arrive to win"

The entitlement is strong with this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 22, 2020, 08:25:25 PM
Were they not Leeds before?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Risso on October 22, 2020, 08:26:14 PM
"We leave to try again next week."
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 22, 2020, 08:42:37 PM
I can't decide if I want us to hammer them by at least 6 or win in the last second with the spawniest and most controversial goal possible. Both options make my tummy tickle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 22, 2020, 08:43:12 PM
ď...and we going again.Ē
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Louzie0 on October 22, 2020, 08:58:10 PM
Shirley no contretemps

Villa 5 Leeds 0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Damo70 on October 22, 2020, 09:27:50 PM
Were they not Leeds before?

That reminds me of an old 'Colemanballs' quote from Bobby Robson. "What can you say about Micky Mills? Micky Mills is Micky Mills and always will be Micky Mills and has been Micky Mills since the year dot".
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Drummond on October 22, 2020, 10:45:14 PM
I can't decide if I want us to hammer them by at least 6 or win in the last second with the spawniest and most controversial goal possible. Both options make my tummy tickle.

A deserved hammering would be far more satisfying, there's just no argument about the justification...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 22, 2020, 11:00:21 PM
Good news, Lawro's tipped Leeds to win 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: tomd2103 on October 22, 2020, 11:14:39 PM
Can't be lost that we can go top of the Premier League tomorrow night with a win.  Considering where we have been in recent times, it just feels great to be looking forward to games and possibilities like that again. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 22, 2020, 11:26:16 PM
A draw sends us top as well. If we do go top it wil be for the first time since Aug 2011.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 22, 2020, 11:55:30 PM
What I am particularly happy about this current group is that there seems to no egos. Everyone; the owners, the manager and coaches, the captain and players all seems to great characters, very level headed and humble. It's great to have that especially now as there are many more eyes on the club, for very good reasons more so than ever in the past 10 years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 23, 2020, 12:31:38 AM
A draw sends us top as well. If we do go top it wil be for the first time since Aug 2011.

*McLeish first pump*

That must've been very early on as we only won one game up to October!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 23, 2020, 12:36:00 AM
I'm very grateful to Derby for beating them in the playoff semi-final. I think they had our number that year.
Old man and I talked about taht today. Was helpful derby came to wembley with 0 plan and belief. If only mason mo....

After spy gate Derby final was v Leeds pretty much, just look at their celebrations at the end, like they'd been promoted at Elland Road. They turned up at Wembley for the derby out really and hoping we'd be below par while for once we turned up expecting to win.

I agree Leeds would've been a very tricky match up for us but worth noting we didn't have Grealish in the 2-3 defeat at VP and think McGinn may have been suspended aswell, also had James Bree playing CB that day.

Leeds could start 5 who played at VP 18 months back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Ads on October 23, 2020, 07:24:50 AM
I have a bad feeling about this.

Not based on anything rational. Just that we've won 4 games in the spin, we have a chance to go top and well, we're Villa aren't we.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: sid1964 on October 23, 2020, 07:53:16 AM
Looking forward to listening to this on the radio!! - hoping for a win, but this will be a tough game for us so going for a 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 23, 2020, 07:53:17 AM
If we are going to win this league we have to be beating Leeds at Villa Park. A Villa win by fair means or foul.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: gpbarr on October 23, 2020, 08:09:36 AM
Will be a very different test tonight for us - Leeds play a very high tempo game and have given everyone a tough game so far so expect tonight to be the same. Luiz and McGinn in particular need to play well to make sure that Leeds donít hit their stride - the good news is they are definitely susceptible at the back so we can cause damage there.

I expect a tight and tough game - if aforementioned play well then I think we will win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: WilliamStanding on October 23, 2020, 08:11:33 AM
A close 3-0 to us.

A red for them, hopefully Tory boy Bamford.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 23, 2020, 08:13:06 AM
We need to hit the ground running they will come at us , I expect a draw, we canít win 5 in a row , can we ? 🤔
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 23, 2020, 08:37:16 AM
I'm certainly enjoying waking up to match days with a feeling of joyous expectation rather than imminent doom. Long may it continue, I must admit I found the doom thing got a bit wearisome after the first six years or so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 23, 2020, 08:53:50 AM
As a resident of Leeds I am nervous for this one. We all know the winning run can't go on forever but win this one please lads. Just hope we're not complacent for an easier game on paper. Hopefully Dean's got them on it again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Mister E on October 23, 2020, 08:55:29 AM
A draw sends us top as well. If we do go top it wil be for the first time since Aug 2011.
October 27th 2001?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: lovejoy on October 23, 2020, 09:06:48 AM
Don't know about you but I'm feeling nervous today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: mr underhill on October 23, 2020, 09:10:03 AM
I know wjhat you mean -like when we were beating them 2-o at home a few years ago and you just knew they would end up stealing  it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: OCD on October 23, 2020, 11:27:31 AM
I have a bad feeling about this.

Not based on anything rational. Just that we've won 4 games in the spin, we have a chance to go top and well, we're Villa aren't we.

I've had that for the past 2 games. I'm not used to seeing us win so often.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: The Edge on October 23, 2020, 11:33:13 AM
If we are going to win this league we have to be beating Leeds at Villa Park. A Villa win by fair means or foul.
That should of read "the likes of Leeds"
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 23, 2020, 11:43:59 AM
Clean Sheets 2 Dirty Leeds 0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 23, 2020, 11:47:09 AM
If we are going to win this league we have to be beating Leeds at Villa Park. A Villa win by fair means or foul.
That should of read "the likes of Leeds"

As you well know there is no one thing quite like Leeds the football club. Fortunately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: baddowvillans on October 23, 2020, 11:50:55 AM
A but nervous because every time we have played Leeds since were relegated Leeds have managed to bully us and have known it.  Im sure they still think they can but id like to think this is a different Aston Villa.  We'll know tonight!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 23, 2020, 12:02:13 PM
I have a bad feeling about this.

Not based on anything rational. Just that we've won 4 games in the spin, we have a chance to go top and well, we're Villa aren't we.

Yes I feel that too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Monty on October 23, 2020, 12:08:42 PM
I have a bad feeling about this.

Not based on anything rational. Just that we've won 4 games in the spin, we have a chance to go top and well, we're Villa aren't we.

Yes I feel that too.

Pretty much. If this game were the second of the season I'd be optimistic. If we'd lost to Liverpool and/or Leicester I'd be optimistic. As it is, we're going to lose. But I'm still hopeful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 23, 2020, 12:17:53 PM
It's our duty to football to win this by fucking loads.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Villa Lew on October 23, 2020, 12:39:42 PM
Good news is Phillips is injured and Cooper doubtful, still think it's gonna be close, Villa by a goal and top of the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 23, 2020, 12:43:53 PM
It's our duty to football to win this by fucking loads.
I think Dean and the lads have enough pressure on them just to win the league this season without adding to it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: devilla on October 23, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
It's not on sky and I can't see that it's on sky box office, anyone know who's showing it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: algy on October 23, 2020, 12:54:34 PM
Clean Sheets 2 Dirty Leeds 0
:D
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Drummond on October 23, 2020, 12:55:04 PM
4-1 would do me. Watkins, Grealish, Trez and a Traore wonder goal to cap it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 23, 2020, 12:55:50 PM
It's not on sky and I can't see that it's on sky box office, anyone know who's showing it?

BT Sports Box Office
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: devilla on October 23, 2020, 12:59:32 PM
It's not on sky and I can't see that it's on sky box office, anyone know who's showing it?

BT Sports Box Office

Ok, thanks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Richard E on October 23, 2020, 01:05:00 PM
I have a bad feeling about this.

Not based on anything rational. Just that we've won 4 games in the spin, we have a chance to go top and well, we're Villa aren't we.

Yes I feel that too.
Me too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: luke95 on October 23, 2020, 01:06:28 PM
Good news is Phillips is injured and Cooper doubtful, still think it's gonna be close, Villa by a goal and top of the league.

I've a sneaky feeling Phillips will play .
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 23, 2020, 01:26:18 PM
I read Phillips is a nasty one and out for weeks
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 23, 2020, 01:31:30 PM
Yeah I heard Phillips was out for a while too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: paul_e on October 23, 2020, 01:35:10 PM
A draw sends us top as well. If we do go top it wil be for the first time since Aug 2011.
October 27th 2001?

We technically went top of the league for a day after beating Blackburn in August 2011.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: LukeJames on October 23, 2020, 01:35:20 PM
A but nervous because every time we have played Leeds since were relegated Leeds have managed to bully us and have known it.

Eh? They had 1 good half in 8 against us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 23, 2020, 01:38:57 PM
It was feared he'd be out until December, now back in a month. He won't play. And if he did, at best it'd stop a hiding becoming a whupping.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: leylandalbion on October 23, 2020, 01:46:04 PM
It's not on sky and I can't see that it's on sky box office, anyone know who's showing it?

BT Sports Box Office

Ok, thanks.
Oh a couple of well known stream sites
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: tim on October 23, 2020, 01:49:04 PM
Pretty confident with this one - going for 3-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Axl Rose on October 23, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
A draw sends us top as well. If we do go top it wil be for the first time since Aug 2011.
October 27th 2001?

A 3-2 home win against Bolton. Took a girl from my history class at uni to that game. She was lovely (and a Birmingham lass) and half way through the second half pointed out that her dad would kill her if he knew she was here with me. I turned round to her and said 'he doesn't even know me'. She said 'it doesn't matter, we are all Bluenoses'.

It got a few chuckles in the Lower Holte from those around us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: mrfuse on October 23, 2020, 02:25:13 PM
It feels so completely wrong to be going into the Game with confidence.

To keep up my perfect prediction record ...a Leeds win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: TonyD on October 23, 2020, 02:33:18 PM
They will throw the kitchen sink at us.  But we will settle into the game and kick their ass.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: villadelph on October 23, 2020, 03:01:06 PM
There's no one in their team that really worries me, and without Phillips I think out midfield will boss them.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Risso on October 23, 2020, 03:29:30 PM
They will throw the kitchen sink at us.  But we will settle into the game and kick their ass.

If Patrick Bamford is the kitchen sink, it's a shitty avocado green one that's been used in a farmer's field to feed cattle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 23, 2020, 03:55:01 PM
The thing with Leeds is you canít let them impose their game on you. If you stop that you go a long way to beating them. Itíll be a hard game no doubt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 23, 2020, 03:56:27 PM
There's no one in their team that really worries me, and without Phillips I think out midfield will boss them.

That's their strength, they function as a team rather than relying on individuals. They're highly drilled and organised. I can see them playing 3 at the back with 5 in midfield and limiting us to any space in their final third. My guess is they're planning for a draw. Phillips is a big loss and they'll need to move a few players around as they're also missing a full back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 23, 2020, 04:27:28 PM
Jack has to get into Ayling early and get him yellow carded.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: CT on October 23, 2020, 04:56:02 PM
Jack has to get into Ayling early and get him yellow carded.

Iím assuming heíll be the nominated Leeds assassin for tonight. It seems like everyone we play has someone out to smash Jack at every opportunity. Itís worse that the refs seem to give them three or four hits before doing anything (same in the championship too).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 23, 2020, 05:05:12 PM
Jack has to get into Ayling early and get him yellow carded.

Talk of Ayling being shifted over to the left tonight as they rejig their defence.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: ktvillan on October 23, 2020, 05:20:24 PM
I had a dream last night that after the game our average goals per game was 3 for the season - which requires us to get three tonight.  So 3 for us and, er, less than 3 for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: olaftab on October 23, 2020, 05:47:37 PM
Normally it should be a straight forward win for us as we have far too much for them to cope however having won 4 law of averages and all that we may lose so I will happy with a draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: exigo on October 23, 2020, 06:00:39 PM
We're going to lose a game at some point this season. Just please don't let it be tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 23, 2020, 06:23:34 PM
Normally it should be a straight forward win for us as we have far too much for them to cope however having won 4 law of averages and all that we may lose so I will happy with a draw.

Iím not sure thatís true - Iím no fan of Leeds but theyíve already shown theyíre competitive with a number of good sides. Thatís not diminishing Villa, but itís hardly a banker irrespective of the circumstances.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Leeds United Pre match thread - Oct 23rd - 8pm
Post by: CT on October 23, 2020, 06:27:28 PM
2-1.

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