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Title: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 06:00:49 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 06:01:52 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 06:02:36 PM
That's exactly the team I thought would start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 06:02:59 PM
Pleased to see Guilbert is still in the frame.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 06:03:24 PM
That's a decent line up and good players on the bench if we need them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Nev on October 01, 2020, 06:04:16 PM
Fair enough. I didn't comment on the pre match thread because I didn't know what team we'd put out so, 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2020, 06:04:20 PM
For those who know, is that Stoke's strongest team?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: bilsim on October 01, 2020, 06:06:16 PM
For those who know, is that Stoke's strongest team?

Nope
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Dave on October 01, 2020, 06:07:27 PM
About three-quarters of their league starters.

Always wondered* what had happened to John Obi Mikel.

*not really, obviously.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on October 01, 2020, 06:07:47 PM
For those who know, is that Stoke's strongest team?

8 changes apparently
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Dave on October 01, 2020, 06:09:38 PM
For those who know, is that Stoke's strongest team?

8 changes apparently

But very similar to their lineup from the league game before the one they just played.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on October 01, 2020, 06:13:47 PM
Happy with the line up, 2-0 Davis & AEG
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on October 01, 2020, 06:22:25 PM
Was a bit concerned he might have started Ollie again, but thankfully he's on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 01, 2020, 06:28:24 PM
Watching the warm-up. I swear they're doing the hokey-cokey.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 01, 2020, 06:38:04 PM
Win please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 06:38:44 PM
If international waters
Or satellite coverage access
VPN or otherwise
And those who live abroad.



That's beautiful man.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: WilliamStanding on October 01, 2020, 06:41:14 PM
Pens.

Steer to replicate Smethwick game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 01, 2020, 06:48:01 PM
No Chester for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Baldy on October 01, 2020, 06:48:20 PM
Very few 'giant killing' acts since Covid. Smaller clubs have less incentive to progress to next round if its going to be played behind closed doors and no massive gate receipts up for grabs.

Stoke made 8 changes tonight, league position appears more important to them.

Hope its not kiss of death but we really should progress tonight. Villa 2 Potters 0.  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: dave17 on October 01, 2020, 06:52:41 PM
In case anyone missed it. Its also on espn+ in the us
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 01, 2020, 06:54:31 PM
Looks like loads of streams in the UK TOO.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2020, 06:55:30 PM
Very risky team selection. Jack should be on the bench and Watkins needs to play to keep scoring. Ancelotti had the right idea last night playing his best XI.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 01, 2020, 07:00:24 PM
Very risky team selection. Jack should be on the bench and Watkins needs to play to keep scoring. Ancelotti had the right idea last night playing his best XI.

Agreed, was hoping for Jack on the bench given it was at home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 07:02:23 PM
Will we ever get rid of that god awful music before the game
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Sdwbvf on October 01, 2020, 07:03:42 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 07:04:01 PM
Good to see the lads take the knee.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:05:04 PM
Nice move down our left but AEG massively overhits the cross.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 01, 2020, 07:05:19 PM
Fucking El Ghazi again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pelty on October 01, 2020, 07:07:22 PM
Any links people know about? Pay-to-view here...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:11:38 PM
So far feels, sounds and looks a lot like reserve team football.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:12:29 PM
We are finding space down our left. I’d like to see us Bert more involved
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:13:43 PM
Nice move. Lansbury over the bar.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:13:56 PM
Good work from Bert, laid off for Angela and he can't hit the target from the edge of the area.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 01, 2020, 07:15:28 PM
We look a bit shaky at the back
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:15:41 PM
They move it around quite nicely do Stoke.  Elmo puts out their cross for a corner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:17:04 PM
AEG again guilty of holding on to the ball too long.  He's trying to win this on his own.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 07:17:26 PM
Can somebody please have a word with Steer about that man bun please.  Where does he think this is, Leeds?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:21:41 PM
Have I ever mentioned before that Neil Taylor is dreadful?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:24:26 PM
All very walking pace. Jacob might have done a bit better there close in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 07:24:30 PM
Have I ever mentioned before that Neil Taylor is dreadful?

He's been watching Jack Grealish. Shocking ball.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:24:41 PM
Lovely turn by Ramsey to get a shot away in the 6 yard box.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 07:24:56 PM
Guilbert is having a decent game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on October 01, 2020, 07:25:13 PM
Chance that for the boy Ramsey. I do like the look of him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 07:25:50 PM
They're finding Powell too easily.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:26:26 PM
Great save from Jed.  Should be 0-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 07:26:44 PM
Stoke 1 up
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:27:12 PM
Fuck me
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 01, 2020, 07:27:29 PM
Balls.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 07:27:44 PM
Shit. All started from Elmo giving the ball away - we definitely look 2nd best here
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:27:49 PM
It's been coming.  Not sure how many times this back 5 has played together before.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:28:01 PM
Nick Powell and Sam Vokes are more than good enough and experienced enough to take care of Hause and Elmo in the middle. That was a dreadful goal to concede.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
No more than they deserve.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:28:44 PM
My river has just turned to a trickle

Not a very dynamic performance from us so far
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 07:28:47 PM
We’ve been poor, especially at the back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 07:28:48 PM
Bloody hell this is shit
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 01, 2020, 07:29:09 PM
Powell and Vokes are ripping this defence apart at the moment
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 07:29:11 PM
Mine has become a dam.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 07:29:13 PM
Terrible defending.  Three of our players marking him, and he still got his header off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 01, 2020, 07:29:28 PM
3 Villa players marking. All behind him!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: stevo_st on October 01, 2020, 07:30:01 PM
Mine has become a dam.

likewise
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:30:06 PM
Keinan's not got into the game yet.  Not much from Bert either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on October 01, 2020, 07:30:17 PM
Been coming. Poor team selection and we should have shown Stoke more respect.

If we had Grealish and Watkins on the bench I'd be more confident, but as is will have to hope Watkins can do something if he comes on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:30:25 PM
Wake the fuck up Villa. This has been utter shit so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 01, 2020, 07:31:21 PM
Not many knocking on the first team door
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: WilliamStanding on October 01, 2020, 07:31:31 PM
El Ghazi, Taylor, Angela and Davis should be nowhere near this squad purely on stinking out the joint and potentially being infectious.

Good grief.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 01, 2020, 07:31:34 PM
This is pretty ropey.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 07:31:35 PM
Very sloppy in possession at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:31:36 PM
What the fuck are you doing Elmo at the back?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2020, 07:31:53 PM
Hause is slowly getting worse game after game
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 01, 2020, 07:32:05 PM
Has anyone mentioned just how shit Hause is.

God help us if Mings gets injured
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 07:32:20 PM
Fucking hell Angela and your 50p head
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on October 01, 2020, 07:32:30 PM
The first eleven might be looking a lot better, but fuck me we still have some plodders in this squad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:32:40 PM
Just a total lack of anything. Taylor looks out of his depth tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:32:43 PM
Fucking hell Lansbury. You fucking tool. What a miss.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2020, 07:32:54 PM
Fuck off Angela
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 07:33:11 PM
Harder to miss!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 07:33:16 PM
Lansbury FFS. Harder to miss than score - and he did!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 07:33:26 PM
Fuck me
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
Hair got in the way
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:33:31 PM
How did Ange miss that??
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 07:33:39 PM
I think apart from Steer, Ramsey & Traore I wouldn’t batter an eyelid if any of these were bombed out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:34:08 PM
Taylor out of his depth again
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 07:34:13 PM
Lovely move, shocking header.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 07:34:18 PM
You can see why most of these are in the stiffs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 07:34:22 PM
I think Angela has had his good game for the year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:34:43 PM
Neil Taylor is awful. I will likely type that again tonight
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 07:35:02 PM
Taylor out of his depth again

He'd be out of his depth in a puddle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on October 01, 2020, 07:35:09 PM
Good cross from Freddie. Lansbury should have done better there
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 01, 2020, 07:35:16 PM
Why is Davis plodding about
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2020, 07:35:27 PM
Any links people know about? Pay-to-view here...

Check your PM
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:35:36 PM
Neil Taylor is awful. I will likely type that again tonight

He’s being shown up tonight so far. I like the chap, but really we need him to be away from the 1st team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 01, 2020, 07:36:05 PM
Traore is so casual. Does he think it's a training match.

Get a fucking grip villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 01, 2020, 07:36:14 PM
Only Marv is coming out of this with any credit at the moment
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:36:26 PM
We’re also missing Watkins movement up front.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on October 01, 2020, 07:36:42 PM
I think apart from Steer, Ramsey & Traore I wouldn’t batter an eyelid if any of these were bombed out.

I imagine Smith would agree and that they will be moved on eventually, it's just a matter of time. The process of upgrading the squad is a lengthy task.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:36:53 PM
Jesus wept, our throw ins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 07:36:57 PM
Davis has been ok too
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:37:06 PM
My concern is that THIS team doesn’t have an extra gear to get back into this and win. We will need to bring on players who could do with a rest ahead of Sunday’s game to rescue things.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 01, 2020, 07:37:35 PM
Davis has been ok too
?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 07:37:35 PM
No tempo or urgency at all - slow, lethargic, lazy. Too much ball watching and far too little fluency
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 07:38:09 PM
What the fuck was that Davis?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 07:38:11 PM
I think the front 3 have been particularly poor so far. No real understanding amongst them. Distribution from the back 5 has been weak too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:38:32 PM
Lansbury really is a dreadful footballer
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on October 01, 2020, 07:39:11 PM
Come on Villa!*

*I'm typing this lethargically.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: DB on October 01, 2020, 07:39:19 PM
Too many changes tonight and may cost us. These players you think would be playing out of their skin for their futures, either here or to be moved on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:39:55 PM
This is just inept.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 07:40:25 PM
Lansbury really is a dreadful footballer




According to wiki he’s got to 41 appearances for us 😳
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 01, 2020, 07:41:01 PM
Can’t get to it
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 07:41:33 PM
Hause's passing is dreadful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:41:40 PM
Hause... the precision distribution of a muck spreader.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:41:45 PM
I will absolutely gutted if we don’t bring in another LB, ideally better than Targett. Because if we go into the season and Targett gets hurt I will be just petrified what PL players will do to Neil Taylor.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pelty on October 01, 2020, 07:41:47 PM
Any links people know about? Pay-to-view here...

Check your PM

Thank you!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 07:41:49 PM
Davis has been ok too
?

The rest of the attack is giving him nothing. All he can really do in a game like this is battle for the ball and try and bring other players in and he’s done that OK mostly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 01, 2020, 07:41:55 PM
Hause is having a shocker
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 01, 2020, 07:42:00 PM
No river
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 07:42:09 PM
Is it me or is the passing about as bad as anything seen in recent times - are they fucking color blind
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:42:27 PM
Fucking hell. Keinan Davis misses another sitter
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2020, 07:42:48 PM
EAG, Angela, Taylor, Hause - very very poor

And Davies.... why he will never make it
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:42:54 PM
How the actual fucking duck did Davis miss that??
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 07:43:07 PM
Ffs sitter missed
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 07:43:20 PM
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Davis will never be good enough.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 07:43:31 PM
2 really good chances we've wasted. We should be winning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2020, 07:43:36 PM
Any links people know about? Pay-to-view here...

Check your PM

Thank you!

You won't be saying that once you watch it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Clinical Davis
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on October 01, 2020, 07:43:52 PM
If KD scores, I'll have his name tattooed across my ample arse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 07:43:54 PM
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Davis will never be good enough.

Yep.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 07:44:01 PM
Should be 2-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 07:44:05 PM
you can see why most of these won't feature much in the League team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:44:09 PM
How the actual fucking duck did Davis miss that??

Because like Lansbury he just isn’t very good
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 07:44:23 PM
Fucking hell. Keinan Davis misses another sitter



I know we like the idea of him being a real success but I feel we needed to be ruthless regards to Davis.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 07:44:26 PM
That and the Lansbury miss are genuine 99 times out of 100 chances. Poor
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2020, 07:44:29 PM
Traore cross pass brilliant. Taylor does a sliding tackle to try pass the ball... Jesus
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: WilliamStanding on October 01, 2020, 07:44:39 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
Guilbert isn’t that good is he
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
If KD scores, I'll have his name tattooed across my ample arse.
Full name...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on October 01, 2020, 07:45:21 PM
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Davis will never be good enough.

Yep.
You just knew as the commentator said, 'it must be...' just before Davis put it wide
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 07:45:34 PM
I will absolutely gutted if we don’t bring in another LB, ideally better than Targett. Because if we go into the season and Targett gets hurt I will be just petrified what PL players will do to Neil Taylor.

Are you watching the game, TV?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:45:54 PM
Stoke look so much more cohesive
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:46:07 PM
I will absolutely gutted if we don’t bring in another LB, ideally better than Targett. Because if we go into the season and Targett gets hurt I will be just petrified what PL players will do to Neil Taylor.

Are you watching the game, TV?

Yes it’s on live here
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 07:46:11 PM
Guilbert isn’t that good is he
not many of these players are
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on October 01, 2020, 07:46:21 PM
Davis is never going to be a prolific striker a hold up
play is his only strength. Ollie would have bagged that without batting an eyelid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2020, 07:46:28 PM
You look at some of these lads and think it was a fucking miracle Deano pulled off keeping us up last year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on October 01, 2020, 07:46:41 PM
If KD scores, I'll have his name tattooed across my ample arse.
Full name...
Obviously.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 01, 2020, 07:47:07 PM
Lansbury really is a microbe of a footballer.

He must have made 5 million out of the game during his "career"

Fucking melt
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 01, 2020, 07:47:11 PM
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Davis will never be good enough.

Yep.

It’s a bit alarming that at the moment he’s back up striker.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 07:47:38 PM
HT
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 07:47:59 PM
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Davis will never be good enough.

Yep.

His first touch has been woeful tonight too. I see why people like him, but he's miles off being good enough to be what we have to rely on if Watkins is out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 07:48:07 PM
Boooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 07:48:17 PM
And that was a half of bullshit.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:48:17 PM
HT that was fucking awful
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: WilliamStanding on October 01, 2020, 07:48:27 PM
If KD scores, I'll have his name tattooed across my ample arse.

Scores today or ever ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Andy Poole on October 01, 2020, 07:48:37 PM
If KD scores, I'll have his name tattooed across my ample arse.

Got it all crossed!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 07:48:51 PM
A few bad injuries and some of this lot could get games in the league for us.

Shudder.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 01, 2020, 07:48:59 PM
How many times does Taylor receive the ball and instantly looks to pass it backwards
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 07:49:05 PM
Blimey that was piss poor.  We look very lacking in quality.  On the strength of that I'd like another striker coming in and Keinan farmed out as soon as Wesley's fit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 01, 2020, 07:49:30 PM
Not sure it was such a great idea to leave Jack out of the squad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on October 01, 2020, 07:49:46 PM
Underwhelming. Fair play Stoke so far, though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Diablo on October 01, 2020, 07:49:50 PM
Boooo-llocks!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 07:50:01 PM
Lansbury really is a microbe of a footballer.

He must have made 5 million out of the game during his "career"

Fucking melt

The way he saves himself, he'll probably be stealing a living when he's 60.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 07:50:15 PM
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why Davis will never be good enough.

Yep.

It’s a bit alarming that at the moment he’s back up striker.




And he’s here for the next 4 years
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on October 01, 2020, 07:51:11 PM
Absolute garbage.

If Hause and Lansbury never play for Villa again, it won't be a day too soon.

Davis in open-goal miss shocker.

AEG very poor.

The only one to come out of that looking decent is Steer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
The passing all over the park is far too loose. Hause, Lansbury, El Ghazi,  Davis and Taylor are all consistently giving it away cheaply.

Its making it far too difficult to create a platform in the game.

That said, as poor as our play has been, we should be winning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 07:51:40 PM
How many times does Taylor receive the ball and instantly looks to pass it backwards



Each year for the last 3 years I’ve been thinking it must be his last with us
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
Gave the ball away in our own half so many times we're fortunate to have only conceded one. Couple of chances we should have taken, Lansbury and Davis. Bit crap really 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Scovilla on October 01, 2020, 07:52:42 PM
Dreadful midfield.Ramsey is the only one trying.
I like him a lot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 07:52:51 PM
This is the side of Davis that drives me bonkers. Poor first touch, not putting away a guilt edge chance, and generally not looking up for it. I know the whole team is flat, but relying on Davis if Watkins is out for any length of time would be asking for trouble. Go get King for £10m or another striker on loan from somewhere is needed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on October 01, 2020, 07:53:18 PM
We’ve been utter Blues and yet have created the better chances. If Dean doesn’t change this he obviously isn’t interested.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 01, 2020, 07:53:47 PM
Agreed, Keinan has been as poor today as he was good last week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2020, 07:54:08 PM
Get Hourihane, Luiz and Watkins on at HT please Dean.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 07:54:12 PM
How many times does Taylor receive the ball and instantly looks to pass it backwards

In his defence he's got El Ghazi in front of him. I actually didn't think he was half as negative as Lansbury. He makes Ray Wilkins (RIP) look like an attacking midfielder.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: andyh on October 01, 2020, 07:54:51 PM
Only managed to watch the last 20 mins of the half, but a couple of observations.

We should thank every god there is that we survived last season, because this would pretty much be our team in the championship.

Hause looks and plays like a blundering monstrosity, who still hasn’t leaned to pass to a villa player.

And Lansbury is a fucking abomination of a footballer.

Other than that, all good !
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ivo Stas on October 01, 2020, 07:55:21 PM
Ivos half-time summary (for those not coughing up £10 to watch on the Caraboa website)

Steer - reassuring, despite the man-bun

Gilbert - great cross for Lansbury to head wide, looked suspect defensively
Elmohamady - always 7/10
Hause - defensively sound but consistently passes to the opposition
Taylor - defensively sound too but a fish out of water over the half-way line

Nakamba - looked bright and lively
Lansbury - dreadful
Ramsey - our best player in the first half

El Ghazi - infuriating
Davis - disappointing so far
Traore - struggled to see much of the ball

Overall, sluggish in possession, too many touches leading to too many backwards and sideways passes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: SaddVillan on October 01, 2020, 07:55:44 PM
We're playing  too many short passes to players who are tightly marked, Stoke are defending in numbers  down the middle - need to go wide.
We've been trying to force the play and too many passes are going astray.

We need more movement and impetus, it's all too slow, pedestrian and predictable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 07:56:18 PM
This is the side of Davis that drives me bonkers. Poor first touch, not putting away a guilt edge chance, and generally not looking up for it. I know the whole team is flat, but relying on Davis if Watkins is out for any length of time would be asking for trouble. Go get King for £10m or another striker on loan from somewhere is needed.




I don’t think that’s going to happen. They went with Wesley on his own last year. I think he’s going to go with what we have and Traoré through the middle I’m case of nerds must.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 07:57:58 PM

Davis in open-goal miss shocker.

I was quite shocked to see him anywhere near the ball so close to goal, mind.

If we ever find ourselves relying on him to provide goals, we're fucked.

He makes Heskey look like Gerd Muller.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 01, 2020, 07:58:11 PM
Well that was wank Villa. Shocking display. Lansbury and Davis guilty of missing sitters. I've defended Davis to the hilt on here and in the real world. Right now he's making me look like a piss poor judge of a player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 07:58:31 PM
We're not stretching the pitch and Stoke back 3 enough.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 07:59:40 PM
Perfectly summed up, Ivo though you've been very kind to Traore.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on October 01, 2020, 08:00:18 PM
Thats more like the villa I'm accustomed to watching..
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:01:30 PM
I was going to say that this is a performance more akin to what we were seeing last season
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:01:33 PM
The passing all over the park is far too loose. Hause, Lansbury, El Ghazi,  Davis and Taylor are all consistently giving it away cheaply.

Its making it far too difficult to create a platform in the game.

That said, as poor as our play has been, we should be winning.

Taylor and Lansbury in particular have been pathetically bad. Lansbury just isn't good enough at all. Ramsey looks 10 times the player.

El Ghazi at least looks like he is trying to make things happen in fairness to him, just not really happening.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on October 01, 2020, 08:01:42 PM
Shit game but my Romanian is coming on a treat from the stream I’ve got.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 08:01:49 PM
Thats more like the villa I'm accustomed to watching..

Indeed. Very last season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 08:02:16 PM
Davis must just panic like a bastard when he gets a chance. "This is it, I got it, I got it!  I don't got it."
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:02:20 PM

Davis in open-goal miss shocker.

I was quite shocked to see him anywhere near the ball so close to goal, mind.

If we ever find ourselves relying on him to provide goals, we're fucked.

He makes Heskey look like Gerd Muller.

Scary isn't it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 08:03:06 PM
Has Taylor ever done anything since being at Villa other than receive the ball, tun round, and pass it backwards?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:03:31 PM
As much as most of us are happy with the window so far, you can see how fragile it is just below the top 16/17 players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on October 01, 2020, 08:04:08 PM
I just don’t think Davis will make it at the top level, he doesn’t have the killer instinct. Championship player at best.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2020, 08:04:43 PM
Mon Villa murder them this half please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:04:54 PM
They better have received a bollocking at HT.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 08:05:36 PM
Davis must just panic like a bastard when he gets a chance. "This is it, I got it, I got it!  I don't got it."

If I'm being kind, I'd say he was all lined up to score from the cross from the left but Ramsey got there first.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:05:39 PM
They better have received a bollocking at HT.

I don’t know if they did, but I did for leaving the toilet seat up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on October 01, 2020, 08:05:50 PM
Hause, Taylor and Lansbury have been awful. AEG and Davis slightly better but still poor. When half the team look out of sorts it's hard to have any fluency. I feel for Ramsey, Guilbert and Traore who are trying to make things happen but every time they look up they see statues.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:06:02 PM
Traore looks like the singer (who turned out not to be singing at all) in Black Box.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on October 01, 2020, 08:06:41 PM
As much as most of us are happy with the window so far, you can see how fragile it is just below the top 16/17 players.

Very much so, scratch beyond the surface and we’re pretty weak but it will take time to undo years of mediocrity I guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 08:07:16 PM
Those long balls from the back are poor. Another ball given away by Lansbury. Very frustrating.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:07:29 PM
Kortney Hause is another plodder of a footballer. Receive, stop, take forever to make a decision, meaningless pass or blast it long.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:07:42 PM
Lovely raking pass from Lansbury straight to a Stoke player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:08:01 PM
Lansbury offers absolutely nothing
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:08:40 PM
Look at the space Hause gave their player in the box. Now imagine that we lose Mings or Konsa and that was Salah or Vardy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 08:08:54 PM
And again from Lansbury. Really basic stuff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:09:27 PM
Think how many millions of pounds we've paid Lansbury for absolutely nothing.

Genuinely struggling to think of a concrete contribution from him in any game.

All i can think of is his not-a-goal at Palace last year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 01, 2020, 08:11:15 PM
How slow was Davis to react to that cross
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:11:44 PM
They are going to score again

And they nearly just did with Vokes. We are so lucky
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on October 01, 2020, 08:11:56 PM
The bomb squad are doing nothing at all to earn themselves a reprieve on this showing. Some bloody awful performances on view tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 08:11:58 PM
Goodness me I've seldom seen us give it away so consistently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 01, 2020, 08:12:06 PM
Think how many millions of pounds we've paid Lansbury for absolutely nothing.

Genuinely struggling to think of a concrete contribution from him in any game.

All i can think of is his not-a-goal at Palace last year.

Tsk, what about his 90 seconds against Arsenal to run down the clock, masterful performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 08:12:10 PM
Think how many millions of pounds we've paid Lansbury for absolutely nothing.

Genuinely struggling to think of a concrete contribution from him in any game.

All i can think of is his not-a-goal at Palace last year.



His equalises at Leeds
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 01, 2020, 08:12:16 PM
I hope we kept the receipt for Traore. He has been garbage
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 08:12:18 PM
Started 2nd half with no improvement - still far too static, cheaply giving balls away, too slow - and should be 2-0 to Stoke
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 08:12:23 PM
They just should have
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:12:33 PM
Stoke should be walking this. A bad miss for someone who’s usually solid in the air.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:12:39 PM
Should have scored then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 01, 2020, 08:12:50 PM
We're going to get fuck all from high balls into the box.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 08:12:51 PM
I'd make changes now. Lansbury and El Ghazi off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:12:56 PM
El Ghazi sends one out of the ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2020, 08:13:03 PM
Right Deano, get somebody half decent on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:13:06 PM
If we care about this competition, we need to change something really soon because we're never scoring like this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2020, 08:13:11 PM
I hope we kept the receipt for Traore. He has been garbage
Willing to give more time,  since its first start
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on October 01, 2020, 08:13:14 PM
Love the way Taylor just stood and watched Vokes have a free header
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on October 01, 2020, 08:13:22 PM
Davis’ ability to be where the ball isn’t is almost telepathic .
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 08:13:59 PM
Picture of Smith on the sideline with a face that tells the story - he’s thinking “how will I ever sell these bozzo’s)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Scovilla on October 01, 2020, 08:14:45 PM
I'd make changes now. Lansbury and El Ghazi off.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 08:14:51 PM
Awful from Ramsey jogging and watching. Unacceptable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on October 01, 2020, 08:14:57 PM
Does anyone know if 6 people from different households can f*ck off in the same vehicle?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:15:05 PM
Even the commentator is saying how shit they are playing lol

A pass goes into Davis and it takes him a good couple of seconds to react. Never on his toes getting in front.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on October 01, 2020, 08:15:17 PM
Y A W N
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:15:20 PM
Hause down. Injury. Being shit
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on October 01, 2020, 08:15:26 PM
Picture of Smith on the sideline with a face that tells the story - he’s thinking “how will I ever sell these bozzo’s)

He should be asking himself why he bought half of them in the first place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 08:15:33 PM
11 subs pls
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:15:39 PM
Hause is shit.

And Kortney is a girl's name.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:15:50 PM
Konsa on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 08:15:52 PM
Traore looks like the singer (who turned out not to be singing at all) in Black Box.

Ha! The Loleatta Holloway impersonator, excellent. Right now he's impersonating a footballer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:15:54 PM
Hause down. Injury. Being shit

Bruised vagina.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 08:16:01 PM
Hause shit
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:16:09 PM
I’d rather leave an injured Hause on the pitch than throw Konsa on
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 08:16:34 PM
Konsa for Hause.... that ought to change things
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:17:17 PM
Hause had a shocker. Not very good at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:17:54 PM
Are we sure we’re done in this transfer window?? I really hope we’re not in this evidence
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 01, 2020, 08:18:09 PM
This has all the hallmarks of a group of players who know they don't figure in future plans and are giving a massive two fingers to the coaching staff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:18:15 PM
What a bag of wank
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 08:18:24 PM
Hause and Davi(e)s especially poor. Neither of them are good enough at anyway near the top level.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:18:43 PM
If only Davis was better and AEG was quicker and braver
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:18:59 PM
This has all the hallmarks of a group of players who know they don't figure in future plans and are giving a massive two fingers to the coaching staff.

Don’t think anyone is buying these shit houses after watching this
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 08:19:08 PM
Hause is shit and injury prone. Really need another CB
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
AEG not great either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:19:28 PM
that ball from Davis to El Ghazi was shit
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:19:53 PM
Hang on.  Last week we were waxing lyrical about the same side who incidentally comfortably beat the championship leaders who’ve won all three league games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:19:55 PM
Hause is shit and injury prone. Really need another CB
I know he’s on big money and obviously wants to stay in Rome, but I’d have gone in for Chris Smalling.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 01, 2020, 08:20:10 PM
It’s worrying Hause is first choice replacement at centre half, he’s dreadful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 08:20:15 PM
Christ that pass sums us up
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 01, 2020, 08:20:17 PM
AEG should've been quicker to that at the back post. I wish he was half as good as he thinks he is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 01, 2020, 08:20:31 PM
Jesus Lansbury
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:20:38 PM
Do we have another Ramsey at the club? Because if not why does he need his first initial on his kit?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:20:39 PM
When did Lansbury go off?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ez on October 01, 2020, 08:20:48 PM
Was El Gazi really busting a gut to get to that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on October 01, 2020, 08:20:52 PM
With Hause going off injured then it might force us into another purchase.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:20:57 PM
Do we have another Ramsey at the club? Because if not why does he need his first initial on his kit?

HIs brother.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:20:58 PM
When did Lansbury go off?
he’s playing sweeper
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 08:21:00 PM
This is the game we needed Eden’s at, not Fulham. Only as strong as your weakest link and all that
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:21:07 PM
Hang on.  Last week we were waxing lyrical about the same side who incidentally comfortably beat the championship leaders who’ve won all three league games.
Shame they've let themselves down tonight then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:21:10 PM
Jesus Lansbury

Is he any good? Sounds like he’s from Barcelona
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:21:15 PM
Hause defended OK, just could not pass to a villa player. Lansbury though. Christ this is worse than a loaf of bread.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2020, 08:21:21 PM
This has all the hallmarks of a group of players who know they don't figure in future plans and are giving a massive two fingers to the coaching staff.
And that's the problem when turning out a a team like tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on October 01, 2020, 08:21:24 PM
Do we have another Ramsey at the club? Because if not why does he need his first initial on his kit?

There are three of them I think.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on October 01, 2020, 08:21:55 PM
When did Lansbury go off?

Just after we signed him
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:22:14 PM
Do we have another Ramsey at the club? Because if not why does he need his first initial on his kit?

HIs brother.

Ah that’s right. Aaron
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:22:36 PM
When did Lansbury go off?

Just after we signed him
soon as he started banking £40k a week
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: KRS on October 01, 2020, 08:22:46 PM
Sounds like the Women’s FA Cup semi final on BBC2 is better quality than what we’re serving up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:23:23 PM
steady on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:23:38 PM
This is just so very poor.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 08:23:57 PM
Do we have another Ramsey at the club? Because if not why does he need his first initial on his kit?

Two younger brothers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:24:13 PM
This is like watching 85% of our matches since 2010.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 08:24:28 PM
Better from AEG
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 08:24:34 PM
El Ghazi has been very poor.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2020, 08:24:37 PM
AEG returns favor with shit pass to KD
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:24:41 PM
let's hope we don't get half a dozen injuries....
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 08:24:45 PM
65 mins and not one shot to trouble their keeper. This is as bad as anything I have seen at VP in a decade.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:25:21 PM
AEG good move but he shot too late. And of course our statue of a CF nowhere near the follow up 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:25:24 PM
This is like watching 85% of our matches since 2010.
Was just thinking that
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:25:30 PM
Might as well get Cash and Watkins on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:25:38 PM
A SHOT ON GOAL A SHOT ON GOAL A SHOT ON GOAL A SHOT ON GOAL A SHOT ON GOAL A SHOT ON GOAL
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:25:49 PM
AEG’s passing is fucking brutal
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on October 01, 2020, 08:26:02 PM
Lansbury is a charlatan of the highest order. Nakamba is bang average but he has to do the running of two players playing with that joker. No-one really standing out, though AEG is having a decent second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:26:35 PM
Fletcher will score.

If i could be arsed, I'd have a few quid on that now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:26:39 PM
AEG’s passing is fucking brutal
I called him El Garbage and someone on here was nearly in tears. It appears I'm right. Again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on October 01, 2020, 08:27:14 PM
They don't want to play for a move, do they?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 08:27:26 PM
I still cannot understand what Smith sees in Davi(e)s. Archer must have pissed in the manager's tea not to get at least an opportunity instead of him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:27:29 PM
AEG’s passing is fucking brutal
I called him El Garbage and someone on here was nearly in tears. It appears I'm right. Again.

El Khazi.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:27:35 PM
Wouldn’t mind watching a shootout. Don’t think we’ll equalise though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:27:44 PM
They don't want to play for a move, do they?
they're hardly moving on the pitch
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2020, 08:27:46 PM
Looks as though Smith has  decided that he wants nothing to do with this cup. Disgraceful so far.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:27:53 PM
AEG again thinking he’s Ronaldo
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:28:04 PM
All we need is one flash of brilliance from Keininho.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:28:12 PM
This is horrific. Genuinely painful to watch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:28:16 PM
Any subs on?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:28:41 PM
AEG again thinking he’s Ronaldo
R9 is still a better player than El Garbage is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: CT on October 01, 2020, 08:28:45 PM
AEG again thinking he’s Ronaldo

Maybe the original Ronaldo, now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2020, 08:28:46 PM
I'm wondering how much Dean really wants to win this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:28:53 PM
Looks as though Smith has  decided that he wants nothing to do with this cup. Disgraceful so far.

I don’t think that’s the case. Pretty much this same team won the last round easily enough. This has just been awful tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 01, 2020, 08:29:01 PM
How many times does Lansbury scoop  the ball backwards in the air

As shit as El Ghazi is he is the only one who looks likecould score.

I'm 57 and I think I could out run davis
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:29:09 PM
Ollie on for Ramsey
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on October 01, 2020, 08:29:27 PM
At least El Gazi is getting involved keeps trying stuff. Traore has made no impact at all on the right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:29:39 PM
Ramsey off but Lansbury stays on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 08:29:48 PM
Wasn't impressed at all by Ramsey tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 08:30:04 PM
Ramsey off but Lansbury stays on.

I don't understand that one either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:30:13 PM
At least El Gazi is getting involved keeps trying stuff. Traore has made no impact at all on the right.
Forgot Traore was on
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 08:30:22 PM
They don't want to play for a move, do they?

You might be onto something there. Life at Bodymoor is far too comfortable for this mob.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:30:23 PM
Ollie going close
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:30:23 PM
At least El Ghazi is trying to change it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on October 01, 2020, 08:30:24 PM
Any subs on?

Konsa for Hause, Watkins just now for Ramsey.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:30:59 PM
Dean likes Lansbury I don’t know why but he does.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:31:08 PM
Watkins finally adds a bit of excitement
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:31:13 PM
Watkins more lively in 20 seconds than most of them have been all night
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 08:32:01 PM
Dean likes Lansbury I don’t know why but he does.

He has his favourites.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:32:07 PM
Oooh Fletcher, aren't you all creative and expressive with your shit tattoos.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 01, 2020, 08:32:11 PM
Looks as though Smith has  decided that he wants nothing to do with this cup. Disgraceful so far.

I don’t think that’s the case. Pretty much this same team won the last round easily enough. This has just been awful tonight.

It couldn't be more night and day with the stark difference in the two performances.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 01, 2020, 08:32:16 PM
Took Watkins 30 seconds to do more than the other three forwards have done all game
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:33:06 PM
I think we are gone here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 08:33:29 PM
Here comes Jota to save us
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:34:02 PM
Oooh Fletcher, aren't you all creative and expressive with your shit tattoos.

Looks like he should be on that 80s twitter thread.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 08:34:04 PM
Traore has made no impact at all on the right.

He's looked very poor.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 08:34:07 PM
Most Villa thing to do would be score and lose on pens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 01, 2020, 08:34:12 PM
To be fair Stoke look well organised. O’Neill was a good appointment for them
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 08:34:17 PM
It’s a shame because we were building some nice momentum and I think it does matter when you throw in a performance like this even if it’s in a shit cup game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2020, 08:34:32 PM
Good God Taylor is fucking shit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 01, 2020, 08:35:18 PM
Stephen Fletcher said something to Elmo who replied "fuck off behave" I'd love to know what it was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:35:20 PM
Jota coming on for Traore. WE.ARE.SAVED
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on October 01, 2020, 08:35:21 PM
At least El Gazi is getting involved keeps trying stuff. Traore has made no impact at all on the right.

Has been very poor, looks not fully fit in truth. Trez will be keeping the shirt in the first team for a while. Might aswell get Luiz on for that clown Lansbury.

Those closest to the first team have been very poor (Traore, Ramsey, Davis).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on October 01, 2020, 08:35:52 PM
Traore has been so bad..
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:36:04 PM
A one in five performer didn’t the french fans say?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:36:10 PM
I think we’re not going to get past this round. Wrong team selection tonight.

He comes another shop window player. Jota.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 08:36:19 PM
Traore really poor. Guess it’s true about his good and bad games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2020, 08:36:21 PM
Most Villa thing to do would be score and lose on pens.

Get SCORCHIOING.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on October 01, 2020, 08:36:33 PM
The only way Taylor would be any use at all is if he got melted down to make glue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 01, 2020, 08:36:38 PM
If Jota is the answer it must be one hell of a question.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: themossman on October 01, 2020, 08:37:02 PM
That header got closer to the goal than most of Davis’s actual headers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:38:05 PM
Fucking hell. This is pins in eyes shit. Nakamba has done OK. Taylor is a fucking awful player with the ball. Side, back, side, back. Shite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:38:16 PM
Stoke haven’t conceded for 6.5 hours.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: andyh on October 01, 2020, 08:38:39 PM
Utter utter pisswank
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on October 01, 2020, 08:38:45 PM
2nd best in every position tonight. Stoke won’t have an easier victory all season. Embarrassing
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 01, 2020, 08:38:50 PM
Just watched an attempted pass from Taylor that was so bad it's made my eyes bleed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:38:56 PM
Stoke haven’t conceded for 6.5 hours.
they’ve been tidy tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on October 01, 2020, 08:39:07 PM
If you paid 10 quid to watch this shite, I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on October 01, 2020, 08:39:26 PM
Lansbury gets dominated so much by opposition midfielders, I'm surprised he doesn't trot out wearing a gimp mask.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:39:35 PM
We never do any good against these.  Except that one season under lambert.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:39:40 PM
At least this is pretty much our second string team. It can’t be any worse than this against Liverpool
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2020, 08:39:44 PM
Should have buried those chances in the first half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:39:47 PM
If you paid 10 quid to watch this shite, I feel your pain.
Does that come with a free case of energy drink?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Diablo on October 01, 2020, 08:39:53 PM
Stoke haven’t conceded for 6.5 hours.
Is that how long we've played up to now? Feels longer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: mcgrath_85 on October 01, 2020, 08:40:01 PM
Stoke haven’t conceded for 6.5 hours.

Lansbury and Davis could have easily have stopped that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2020, 08:40:09 PM
Stoke unbeaten in last 7 visits to Villa Park....make that 8.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 01, 2020, 08:40:23 PM
Stoke haven’t conceded for 6.5 hours.
they’ve been tidy tonight.

Stop it will you, it’s fucking Stoke City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:40:45 PM
Stoke haven’t conceded for 6.5 hours.
they’ve been tidy tonight.

Stop it will you, it’s fucking Stoke City.
Yep, we should be embarrassed
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
If you paid 10 quid to watch this shite, I feel your pain.

My lad convinced me. He's long since given up and buggered off to play on his ps4
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 08:41:21 PM
If you paid 10 quid to watch this shite, I feel your pain.

My lad convinced me. He's long since given up and buggered off to play on his ps4

Take it out of his pocket money.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:41:55 PM
If you paid 10 quid to watch this shite, I feel your pain.

My lad convinced me. He's long since given up and buggered off to play on his ps4

Take it out of his pocket money.
Cancel Xmas.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 08:42:06 PM
Wrong team selection tonight.

No tactics hasn't helped.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:42:07 PM
Just when I thought those meek shitty cup performances against lower league opposition were a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on October 01, 2020, 08:42:50 PM
We never do any good against these.  Except that one season under lambert.



You mean the one occasion when nothing was on it
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on October 01, 2020, 08:43:00 PM
Very disappointing all round. Very Villa...

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:43:59 PM
This has been as poor a Villa display as I can recall in a good while.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2020, 08:44:36 PM
Just when I thought those meek shitty cup performances against lower league opposition were a thing of the past.
It's shitty team selection resulting in a shite performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:44:57 PM
Where's the urgency?? This is awful
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:45:34 PM
It's OK, I have had a good 3-4 minutes of the poor commentator telling me all about the way you say Jota. He's clearly had well enough of watching it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ez on October 01, 2020, 08:45:41 PM
We're due a defeat
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: SaddVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:45:57 PM
Our passing stats tonight will be shite.
This team is performing like a mid-table 2nd Division side.
No imagination or wit.
One paced, static and naive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 01, 2020, 08:46:07 PM
Bringing on Jota when we need a goal is totally senseless.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:46:47 PM
It's OK, I have had a good 3-4 minutes of the poor commentator telling me all about the way you say Jota. He's clearly had well enough of watching it.
Not like ‘Hotter’ at Wolves
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 01, 2020, 08:47:19 PM
Bringing on Jota when we need a goal is totally senseless.

Been our best player since he came on
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on October 01, 2020, 08:47:29 PM
I think there was a good shout for a pen on watkins, the ref then rubbed in the salt by giving a foul against him for a similar push a few minutes later.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Scovilla on October 01, 2020, 08:47:42 PM
Just embarrassing!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2020, 08:48:01 PM
Why has Marvelous played ahead of sweeper Lansbury?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on October 01, 2020, 08:48:08 PM
Paid the price of fielding a second string against a gritty Stoke outfit. Villa's first eleven would've beat these easily. But, only 2 clear days until the Liverpool game. Crazy fixture schedule.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on October 01, 2020, 08:48:08 PM
Apart from Lansbury... anyone know any good jokes?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:48:14 PM
Apparently we have had 14 shots
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:48:48 PM
As much as we have been so very predictable, Stoke have defended so well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2020, 08:48:49 PM
Underdogs, I reckon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:48:52 PM
sort of nice to be back to normal
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: picicata on October 01, 2020, 08:49:05 PM
First eleven are pretty solid now

The stiffs are shite though!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:49:15 PM
I assume jacks new contract included not having to bother turning up from round 2 onwards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2020, 08:49:38 PM
Souttar and Collins for them at the back are going to be very decent players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:50:30 PM
They’ve made eight changes as well!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on October 01, 2020, 08:50:32 PM
Apparently we have had 14 shots

12 of them were El Ghazi blasting over.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: pelty on October 01, 2020, 08:51:52 PM
To say our bench is thin is putting it mildly. Good thing I am not manager because I would probably go "Full MON" mode and play the same starting 11 in the league the entire season. They would be running on stubs by March.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 01, 2020, 08:52:01 PM
Ah well no crowd at Wembley anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:52:10 PM
Horrible, desperate display tonight

Corner for us. Jed up for it
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2020, 08:52:46 PM
FT

Boooo
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:52:47 PM
Another corner. All so desperate
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2020, 08:53:14 PM
FT. Terrible. We’re out
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 01, 2020, 08:53:32 PM
El Ghazis performance as bad as any I've seen at VP in years
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on October 01, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
That was ass.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on October 01, 2020, 08:53:49 PM
This is making my eyes bleed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 01, 2020, 08:54:46 PM
Steer was more lively in the box than Davis - sums it all up for me.

let's just pray we don't get many first team players injured
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Stoke City - League Cup Rd 4 Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2020, 08:55:04 PM
Fuck off Dean you threw that away.
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