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Title: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 27, 2020, 07:37:54 PM
Villa to continue their unbeaten run.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2020, 07:39:32 PM
17.45 Monday 28 September 2020.

Fulham must be targeting this as one of the 8/9 wins they will need to stay up this season so let's not help them. Come on Villa for once win at Craven Cottage.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2020, 07:41:13 PM
OK looks like Newby started one as well and I can't seem to delete this :-[
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 27, 2020, 07:42:42 PM
I can see Ramsey coming in for Hourihane 🤔
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 27, 2020, 07:44:00 PM
Sorry Mods, can we merge Aftab's thread with this please?

My apologies Aftab.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WilliamStanding on September 27, 2020, 07:46:19 PM
2-2

Always make this place tougher than it should be.

Berts and Cashy with first league goals
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2020, 07:46:20 PM
You were there 2 mins earlier than me :)
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 27, 2020, 07:47:06 PM
0-2 us.

Traore
Watkins
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 27, 2020, 07:47:44 PM
Threads merged and superfluous space removed from title.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2020, 07:50:12 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 27, 2020, 07:52:45 PM
Latest prematch thread ever. Just hope it augurs better than the Orange Dot ever did.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 27, 2020, 08:15:57 PM
Would prefer to see Traore in that line-up instead of Hourihane or Trezeguet.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on September 27, 2020, 08:17:25 PM
We are going to do Fulham.

FFC 0 - 2 AVFC
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on September 27, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
Away win and the quest to win the league gathers pace.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 27, 2020, 08:29:41 PM
Got the score the wrong way round yet again. Must pay closer attention.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on September 27, 2020, 08:32:36 PM
A win here would be extremely useful.

I feel confident but the way other results have gone this weekend who knows!
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2020, 08:42:06 PM
It's a weekend of strange results so I am worried.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on September 27, 2020, 08:51:58 PM
I think we'll win this: confidence is high, attackers are in good form, defensively we've been solid.  2-1, Jack and Watkins for us, someone for them.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 27, 2020, 08:56:35 PM
Threads merged and superfluous space removed from title.

Social distancing!!
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 27, 2020, 09:04:33 PM
One of these days we are going to give someone a hiding.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 27, 2020, 09:05:49 PM
I've been saying that for years. Still waiting. I don't count the 6-1 vs Sunderland that never happened.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 27, 2020, 09:06:45 PM
Cheers Newby/Aftab but please let TV start the match thread as he's on a run. Assuming he does, 2-1 win to Villa and top 6.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 27, 2020, 09:09:53 PM
Would prefer to see Traore in that line-up instead of Hourihane or Trezeguet.

Same. We’re long overdue a clean sheet away from home in the league. It’s coming tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 27, 2020, 09:12:13 PM
Cheers Newby/Aftab but please let TV start the match thread as he's on a run. Assuming he does, 2-1 win to Villa and top 6.

I think the match thread needs a rule.  Start it three days before the game.  Vill I Am made a special request, Aftab and I were performing a public service!  Happily leave it to TV.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on September 27, 2020, 09:53:15 PM
Cheers Newby/Aftab but please let TV start the match thread as he's on a run. Assuming he does, 2-1 win to Villa and top 6.

I think the match thread needs a rule.  Start it three days before the game.  Vill I Am made a special request, Aftab and I were performing a public service!  Happily leave it to TV.

I like that 3 day rule !  And many thanks for doing this one - I find you two are lucky !
Here's hope

It's a weekend of strange results so I am worried.

Which means a win at the cottage in premier league
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on September 27, 2020, 10:19:43 PM
We are going to do Fulham.

FFC 0 - 2 AVFC
this result would take us 5th with a game in hand! I’ll take it! Horrible kick off time in Aus- 2.45am. I’ll watch it on the train to work
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 27, 2020, 10:26:04 PM
Would be nice to get a first win at Craven Cottage since 1597
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 27, 2020, 10:31:41 PM
Would be nice to get a first win at Craven Cottage since 1597

I vaguely remember that. It was shown as a clip on an olde edition of MOTD. Black n white for all the kids. Fulham were in black and white and we were in black and white.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 27, 2020, 10:33:19 PM
I thought we wore white and black?
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 27, 2020, 10:43:50 PM
Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash

Luiz
McGinn
Hourihane

Traore
Watkins
Grealish

But wouldn't be surprised if Trez doesn't start.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on September 27, 2020, 10:46:05 PM
Ads you always have your defence left to right and midfield and attack the other way around. Please be consistent 😉
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 27, 2020, 10:48:29 PM
I thought we wore white and black?

Correct. Sorry.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on September 27, 2020, 10:49:15 PM
We will win 3 or 4-0 and it’ll do nothing for our expectation for the season. Beat Stoke on Thursday and it’ll sky rocket even more! Luckily we have Liverpool and Leicester after that.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 27, 2020, 11:27:49 PM
This is a game we nearly always lose both literally away to Fulham, but also if a newly promoted club need a win over last few years, enter Villa.
Also As someone else posted they will be targeting this one as one of their ‘must wins’.
Hoping villa change all this round. They’ll start strong I imagine, we weather the storm and hopefully knock stuffing out of them 2-0. Traore must start for me with Trez on bench, same team otherwise.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 28, 2020, 12:14:09 AM
I vaguely remember that. It was shown as a clip on an olde edition of MOTD. Black n white for all the kids. Fulham were in black and white and we were in black and white.

Whisper it quietly but it's a common misconception due to the BBC commentator that day pointing out that "and for those of you who are watching in black and white, Aston Villa are in claret and blue".
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on September 28, 2020, 01:36:57 AM
It's going to be a tough game.

That Knockaert always seems to have a blinder against us then vanishes back into obscurity. We need to keep him and Onomah under wraps.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on September 28, 2020, 04:17:51 AM
I’ve a good mate here who follows Fulham. We’ve agreed to maintain radio silence until 10.00 for the match to be watched in peace. I’m staying away from social media til after then too.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on September 28, 2020, 04:20:13 AM
A win would really set up the season nicely.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on September 28, 2020, 06:56:23 AM
be a tough game 1-1
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on September 28, 2020, 08:50:14 AM
I've been saying that for years. Still waiting. I don't count the 6-1 vs Sunderland that never happened.
Did Norwich away not count then?
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 28, 2020, 09:06:42 AM
That was only 5...
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on September 28, 2020, 09:14:25 AM
Fulham are favourites to go down and haven’t won a game yet
that means they will be desperate for points tonight

this is a game we must go out to win
a good performance and 3 points would be massive for us and totally doable

a loss or a bad performance and a streaky draw and all the old insecurities will return
well they will in my mind anyway

0-2 Watkins & Target is my prediction

Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on September 28, 2020, 09:14:43 AM
Aston Villa 7 (seven) does have a ring to it...
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 28, 2020, 09:16:19 AM
Aston Villa 7 (seven) does have a ring to it...

Yes, would be nice to have a score with the words in brackets again!  Let's batter them, and show that we're not going to be concerned with the lower reaches this year.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Ming on September 28, 2020, 09:32:12 AM
A draw would be fine.

A win would be a bonus.

A progressive performance is a must. Not the usual two steps forwards, one step back.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 28, 2020, 10:11:22 AM
Strangely confident of a win this evening. 0-2, Grealish, Watkins
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on September 28, 2020, 10:21:44 AM
A draw would be fine.

A win would be a bonus.

A progressive performance is a must. Not the usual two steps forwards, one step back.

Well it would still be an improvement on recent years, one step forward and then turning round and running the other way.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on September 28, 2020, 10:29:41 AM
I'm feeling quietly confident about this one as well. I'll go for a tight 1-2 win. Watkins with both ours.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 28, 2020, 10:51:58 AM
1-1
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 28, 2020, 10:55:49 AM
You were there 2 mins earlier than me :)

My wife always says that to me after sex  ;)

Mitrovic apart I don't rate Fulham much. 2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fbriai on September 28, 2020, 11:02:30 AM
0-1 to us. Watkins.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on September 28, 2020, 11:04:43 AM
We will win at Fulham 0-1. Whatever next best a team from Manchester???
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WarszaVillan on September 28, 2020, 11:10:19 AM
We've got a tough couple of games after this one, so a win tonight would be very welcome and assure us a decent start to the season.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 28, 2020, 11:13:30 AM
Aston Villa 7 (seven) does have a ring to it...

Ahh, brings back memories of the days when we had the most FA Cup wins.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on September 28, 2020, 11:20:06 AM
Think we will win this one comfortably. Fulham have been in abject form in the league, and we look solid. Going for a 0-4 win with a Wtkins hattrick and a goal from Cash.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Baldy on September 28, 2020, 11:21:33 AM
Fulham 3 penalties, Villa 4 penalties  :)
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smithy on September 28, 2020, 11:42:40 AM
Clean sheet would be nice, but I'll go 1-2 with a Watkins double.  Would be great to be on 6 points considering our next two opponents, and it would be nice to help Fulham on their way to doing a Fulham.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on September 28, 2020, 12:02:52 PM
Early indication of the season we're in for i think. Win or draw and maybe we're out of the trapdoor group, lose and the return game could be a "6-pointer"

1-3
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on September 28, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
Traore in for Trez and Ramsey on the bench and hopefully will get some game time. Could be up against our old mate Josh Onomah, noticed he's started both league matches, but has been subbed on both occasions.

Going for a 1 goal Villa win, with Ollie getting the winner.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 28, 2020, 12:46:25 PM
Early indication of the season we're in for i think. Win or draw and maybe we're out of the trapdoor group, lose and the return game could be a "6-pointer"

Agreed, a win tonight and a point against Liverpool or Leicester and we might be in for a less stressful season.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on September 28, 2020, 02:11:47 PM
We always play dismally down there, no matter who's in our team. I'd be happy with a draw, delighted with a win, and Jack's complete lack of surprise with a loss.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 28, 2020, 02:21:03 PM
No home fans or "neutrals", so no need to approach this as an away game ie tentatively, when man for man we're stronger.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 28, 2020, 02:21:46 PM
Would be nice to get a first win at Craven Cottage since 1597

Lot of trouble at this game if I remember. Tensions were running high as we were being controversially linked with signing an ancestor of Carlos Cuellar at the time. When Elizabeth I sailed past on the way to Hampton Court, some anti royalist chants started and it all kicked off.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on September 28, 2020, 02:38:06 PM
No home fans or "neutrals", so no need to approach this as an away game ie tentatively, when man for man we're stronger.

What is/was this neutral stand of theirs? A place where fans of both teams could mingle, or a place where fans of neither Fulham nor the team they were playing could come and catch a game?
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 28, 2020, 02:39:20 PM
No home fans or "neutrals", so no need to approach this as an away game ie tentatively, when man for man we're stronger.

What is/was this neutral stand of theirs? A place where fans of both teams could mingle, or a place where fans of neither Fulham nor the team they were playing could come and catch a game?

In theory, the latter. In practice an away end overspill.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 28, 2020, 02:41:28 PM
Fancy us to win this 3-1. After two defeats Fulham will be charging forward as they'll target this as a must win. They were cut to pieces on counter attack by Leeds last week so we're going to have some space to play with if we can win the ball back quickly enough.

Tempted to start Traore for this.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 28, 2020, 02:44:30 PM
1-0 win. Last minute winner. Penalty.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 28, 2020, 02:45:41 PM
Them or us?
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 28, 2020, 02:57:34 PM
Us :)
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on September 28, 2020, 02:58:00 PM
No home fans or "neutrals", so no need to approach this as an away game ie tentatively, when man for man we're stronger.

What is/was this neutral stand of theirs? A place where fans of both teams could mingle, or a place where fans of neither Fulham nor the team they were playing could come and catch a game?

There were always a few foreign tourists who obviously wanted to see an English football match but probably couldn’t get tickets for Chelsea, Arsenal etc.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 28, 2020, 03:04:10 PM
No home fans or "neutrals", so no need to approach this as an away game ie tentatively, when man for man we're stronger.

What is/was this neutral stand of theirs? A place where fans of both teams could mingle, or a place where fans of neither Fulham nor the team they were playing could come and catch a game?

There were always a few foreign tourists who obviously wanted to see an English football match but probably couldn’t get tickets for Chelsea, Arsenal etc.

It's the strangest arrangement i've ever sat in at a football match.

I'd say it was 60 percent us, 20 percent Fulham, 20 percent tourists when i sat there

The only other time I've had a similar thing was in the Club Wembley seats, the ones allocated to CW season ticket holders rather than in finalist allocations. At the League Cup final last year by us it was 40% Villa, 20% Man City and 40% empty seats.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on September 28, 2020, 03:07:27 PM
No home fans or "neutrals", so no need to approach this as an away game ie tentatively, when man for man we're stronger.

What is/was this neutral stand of theirs? A place where fans of both teams could mingle, or a place where fans of neither Fulham nor the team they were playing could come and catch a game?

There were always a few foreign tourists who obviously wanted to see an English football match but probably couldn’t get tickets for Chelsea, Arsenal etc.

It's the strangest arrangement i've ever sat in at a football match.

I'd say it was 60 percent us, 20 percent Fulham, 20 percent tourists when i sat there

The only other time I've had a similar thing was in the Club Wembley seats, the ones allocated to CW season ticket holders rather than in finalist allocations. At the League Cup final last year by us it was 40% Villa, 20% Man City and 40% empty seats.
Last time I was there it was at least 80% us.  The foreign tourists looked somewhat bemused.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 28, 2020, 03:10:15 PM
Fulham should be docked six points at the start of each season in perpetuity purely for that horrendous Michael Jackson statue.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 28, 2020, 03:28:53 PM
Fulham should be docked six points at the start of each season in perpetuity purely for that horrendous Michael Jackson statue.

Is it still there? Didn't it get moved to football museum in Manchester after Al Fayed sold up?
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WilliamStanding on September 28, 2020, 03:43:43 PM
Fulham should be docked six points at the start of each season in perpetuity purely for that horrendous Michael Jackson statue.

Absolutely this.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 28, 2020, 03:51:31 PM
1-0 win. Last minute winner. Penalty.

Angel missing two in one game. Loftus Road though I think it was. Could have swung for the handsome bustard.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WilliamStanding on September 28, 2020, 03:53:40 PM
1-0 win. Last minute winner. Penalty.

Angel missing two in one game. Loftus Road though I think it was. Could have swung for the handsome bustard.

Craven Cottage.

Annoyingly Delaney broke his ankle In one the games at Loftus.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 28, 2020, 03:57:37 PM
Yes, fuxking Bocanegra.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 28, 2020, 03:59:37 PM
Yes, fuxking Bocanegra.

I remember that like it was yesterday - tosser - one of my fave players was Delaney
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WilliamStanding on September 28, 2020, 04:03:42 PM
Bocanegra, a name banned in my household.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 28, 2020, 04:04:59 PM
Darren Woolley is hanging around outside Craven Cottage to greet the team bus, just posted his pictures on Facebook. Good lad.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 28, 2020, 04:08:24 PM
Yes, fuxking Bocanegra.
He broke his ankle while doing that to him?
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 28, 2020, 04:12:19 PM
Darren Woolley is hanging around outside Craven Cottage to greet the team bus, just posted his pictures on Facebook. Good lad.

I think Darren is a good lad as well.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on September 28, 2020, 04:25:28 PM
We will defeat them.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on September 28, 2020, 04:39:38 PM
Fulham should be docked six points at the start of each season in perpetuity purely for that horrendous Michael Jackson statue.

Is it still there? Didn't it get moved to football museum in Manchester after Al Fayed sold up?

It was in the National Football Museum until that Leaving Neverland documentary, and then it became a little too difficult to laugh off.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on September 28, 2020, 04:42:17 PM
Can’t believe Fulham have won 6 of the last 8nafainst us and the last 3 in a row - time to change it and get things back to normal
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on September 28, 2020, 04:45:20 PM
A frustrating and infuriating goalless draw.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 28, 2020, 04:45:26 PM
A draw would be fine.

A win would be a bonus.

A progressive performance is a must. Not the usual two steps forwards, one step back.


I'd take that over our regular habit of one step forward, two steps backwards.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 28, 2020, 04:47:40 PM
Team announced.
Title: Re: Fulham v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 28, 2020, 04:48:12 PM
Same team as v Sheffield United, disappointed Traore isn't starting. Jacob Ramsey instead of El Ghazi on bench is interesting.

Mitrovic starts for Fulham for first time in a while. Seems they're playing a 3-4-3.
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