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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on July 02, 2020, 01:38:12 PM
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First signing of the season for our newly-promoted heroines, Scotland international and will annoy Blose. Good news all round.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/02/chloe-arthur-signs-for-villa-women?g4id=5
A Scottish goalkeeper, what could possibly go wrong.
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Says midfielder in the link.
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Smeg knows why I thought she was a goalie.
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She reminds me of someone, it will come back to me.
Further down the page, disappointing news about Ray Graydon.
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Another, one experienced England international defender this time.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/06/asante-signs-for-villa-women?g4id=5
Welcome.
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She reminds me of someone, it will come back to me.
Further down the page, disappointing news about Ray Graydon.
I can't see anything about Ray Grayson, perhaps I'm missing it. Would you be good enough to enlighten me please?
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He was joking. One of the recommended articles underneath was an "On This Day" piece about when Ray Graydon left. It isn't there now because it is no longer the anniversary of said date.
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He was joking. One of the recommended articles underneath was an "On This Day" piece about when Ray Graydon left. It isn't there now because it is no longer the anniversary of said date.
Ah, thank you. I thought for a while that he may have been diagnosed with something sinister. Thankfully not, I really enjoyed watching Graydon play, a fast incisive old school winger that could score goals.
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My dad talks fondly of him running up the wing with balloons round his ankles. I very much doubt this exists on camera anywhere.
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Another one, ladies aren't fucking around this season...
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/15/diana-silva-signs?g4id=5
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Saw the club email earlier and thought the same. Bem-vindo, Diana!
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Gemma has learned some bad PR habits fom Christian Purslow:
Davies said: “We’ve said it before that we don’t just want to make the numbers up – we want to compete.
“Going into our first year, our goal isn’t just to survive and stay in the league, it’s to go out and be competitive."
Gulp.
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Yeah, I'd much rather she'd said she was hoping for relegation. 🙄
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I don't see what's wrong with that, compete is vague enough.
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Yet another signing for the Ladies
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/23/lisa-weiss-signs-for-villa-women
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Mean business. Hopefully be a good few games on telly next season if we aren't allowed to the ground.
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Willkommen in Aston Villa, Lisa!
She didn't play much for them but must be pretty decent if OL signed her and she's been in the German national squad. Bit short for a keeper mind. ;)
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Let's hope Suso isn't doing the recruitment for the ladies team !
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Massive congratulations to Manager, Gemma Davies on winning the LMA Women's Manager of the year award. Much deserved, you did us proud.
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Massive congratulations to Manager, Gemma Davies on winning the LMA Women's Manager of the year award. Much deserved, you did us proud.
Agreed
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👏
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Yeah well done Gemma
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Goalkeeper Sian Rogers also won the Golden Glove.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/28/aston-villa-win-two-honours-end-of-season-championship-awards/
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Massive congratulations to Manager, Gemma Davies on winning the LMA Women's Manager of the year award. Much deserved, you did us proud.
Agreed
Agreed x2
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Congratulations Gemma. I didn't realise she's not even 30 yet. We have a serious coaching talent on our hands plus a great support structure.
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She does look very young, almost like a cast member of a Harry Potter film, but clearly knows her stuff. Well done Gemma!
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Also a big shout out to Ash Hargreaves, Physio to the Womens team. She volunteered to work at the QE as a
respiratory physiotherapist throughout the pandemic.
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2 more signings for the Women’s team today, they’re not pissing about.
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Wilkommen.
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Just watched an interview with Ramona Petlzleberger, who joined today. German International. You know when your'e watching something and you can tell if it's genuine comment or not, well she was asked about the head coach and the organisation, well her eyebrows raised when she said, they are really organised. She said it in a way that I don't believe she could believe how organised we were. She has just come from a top 4 Bundesliga team. I think we will do ok this year.
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And another one in Stine Larsen Danish International champs league experience.
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We are signing some real babes for the women’s team.
I can’t say that, can I ?
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We are signing some real babes for the women’s team.
I can’t say that, can I ?
You can think it ( I did too ) but in this politically correct world you can’t say it . Won’t belong before the thought police have us too so enjoy while you can.
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We are signing some real babes for the women’s team.
I can’t say that, can I ?
You can think it ( I did too ) but in this politically correct world you can’t say it . Won’t belong before the thought police have us too so enjoy while you can.
You can't be English anymore either.
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We are signing some real babes for the women’s team.
I can’t say that, can I ?
I was thinking the same, especially Ramona, but didn't want to say.
In interest of balance our new sporting director's a bit of a handsome bugger as well.
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I’m hoping we sign Brighton’s Scandinavian left back, I might get a season ticket then.
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I’m hoping we sign Brighton’s Scandinavian left back, I might get a season ticket then.
She must be a really good player. What's her name?
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I dont know but I can describe her if that helps?
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First game of the season for the women is against Man City. Talk about in at the deep end!
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First game Man City, nice easy start...
Hopefully a few of their games will be on the telly/online.
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They've got promoted. Their signings are mentioned on the BBC website. They deserve their own thread. IMO.
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Even though I've just noticed I started the original one.
Ah well.
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They've got promoted. Their signings are mentioned on the BBC website. They deserve their own thread. IMO.
Agreed plus it'll make it easier for SHA to find the "arrogant Vile" thread when our ladies eviscerate theirs this season.
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We seem to be showing some serious ambition with the Women's and Academy teams. Gemma Davies seems a real talent to have at the club.
The comments from Exeter City are wonderful. Good signs that we're heading in the right direction & generally going about it in the right way.
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A historic day! 5 hours away so time for some recognition!
Live on TV BT Sport 2. Live Radio commentary 5 live. 230pm Kick off
Also BT sport you tube , Facebook & Twitter from 2pm.
The Opening match of the WSL season
And of course the 1st match of AVW season in the WSL
I do hope the H & Vs take a keen interest from a footballing perspective today. It's football and it's villa so what's not to love!!
The Villains were worthy of promotion last season being undefeated!
Opening match is another story but you never know ! A disclaimer it's a ridiculous very tough match Vs Man City who have brought in world-class players to an already strong squad and will be challengers for the league.
There's excitement and optimism , however I can unfortunately and realistically only see a defeat based on the level of player Man City have, their experience and that Villa haven't played for so long.
Being honest ,there will be easier matches so just looking at performance today after villa made some astute signings.
It's also the first match competitively for over 6 months , taking the step up and new team players. So be patient as they will get better as season progresses and won't have to play Man City every week. Though hoping this is a good time to catch them! Can't measure them or woman's football on this one game today.
I'm always hoping for a Villa victory, excited to see our club compete against one of the best woman's clubs in England and delighted it's at Villa Park . Shame no fans for the historic occasion. Villa will regularly play home games at the Bescot stadium I think making us and Reading the only two to play at football league grounds having the bigger and better stadium than many in the league.
(Other clubs play at academy's or developed club sports pitches or in London clubs cases non league grounds)
The main aims for Villa women are to show themselves as an established WSL club, being competitive and becoming the top team in the Midlands . I think both are very possible and in fairness to the Birmingham Ladies lot they have been the go to team in the area.
However Villa are changing that with the quality investment and I think sooner than later overtaking our rivals in the woman's game . And rightly so!
Our great club Aston Villa have really developed the women's squad since the new owners come in and the WSL itself has really improved in quality year on year. The traditional men's clubs have now decided to grow the woman's teams.
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/aston-villa-women-wsl-fixtures-man-city-anita-asante-eni-aluko-emma-follis-626491
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2020/jul/10/word-is-spreading-about-villa-women-and-what-we-are-trying-to-achieve
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/sep/04/the-football-will-be-spectacular-wsl-kicks-off-with-renewed-hope-and-energy
**Please can H & V give Aston Villa of WSL our own sticky thread ? I think that would be super and to acknowledge and support the growing interest in women's football. I understand if this is predominantly Aston Villa men but I think as woman's football is only going to grow more and more popular - i vote let's give woman's football an independent football thread!
Up the Villa
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Agreed.
Our once 'progressive' club have some catching up to do and deserve our interest in order to build support for the ladies.
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Agreed.
Our once 'progressive' club have some catching up to do and deserve our interest in order to build support for the ladies.
Nice one Eddie for contributing!
Hopefully have some more activity come match time though I like to concentrate so will post match thoughts after .
Enjoy the game. Gonna be so tough but here's hoping.
And just looking forward to new season and WSL level players and teams Vs our Women.
Up the Villa
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Good post mate, agree 100%
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There is a stickied thread for reserves, academy and women but it feels out of date plonking the women's side in with the kids.
Aston Villa WSL need their own thread.
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Please don't lose hope if it's a 4 or 5 goals to 1 loss. Which is conceivable given the Opposition.
We're building the women's squad and Man City have a head start.
The odds reflect that 1/40 for Man city to win and at 20/1 for Villa to get a win! 10/1 for a double chance draw or win !
What Villa woman need to do is have high energy and press at the right time from the front. Man city play a possession based and at times slow build up play moving ball and opponent around. Can hope to catch them at the back on the ball or with an error. Would also need full concentration for no basic errors in midfield , defence and with possession for the best result to occur.
Lyon women are the best in the world and everyone wants to play for them . Chelsea and Man City women are trying to reach that level by money but also investment.
However what sets Lyon apart in women's football and at the heart of Lyon achievements is a pervasive ethos that promotes gender equality throughout the club, starting in the youth academy
This team attract the best players in the world and won the women's champions League time and again because they take woman's football Uber professionally and provide the finding and facilities to match.
I hope in time Villa and women's football will be measured in equal standing as the men's even if wages won't have parity there are many woman who can play football as good and better than men
Up the Villa!
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Good luck to the ladies today
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5 minutes in and a terrible defensive error gives them the lead.
We'd started well though.
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We’ve made some great blocks in our box and played decent passes forward but terrible error to give away goal
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Defensive error from City could have led to a Villa goal also. I think we're doing well, we're competing for everything.
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Not sure about the Villa keeper, something about her reminds me of nyland.
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Another dreadful defensive error - 0-2 to City.
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on the positive side the german in midfield looks very good and the left winger has something about her.
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Not sure about the Villa keeper, something about her reminds me of nyland.
Well indeed. Major gaffe there. We've got the German no1 on the bench, signed from Lyon.
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A real shame as we’ve been knocking it around quite well but yes Stanway won’t score 2 easier goals just closing our defenders and keeper down
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Not sure about the Villa keeper, something about her reminds me of nyland.
Well indeed. Major gaffe there. We've got the German no1 on the bench, signed from Lyon.
Too soft for both goals and hasn't commanded the box at all.
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Not sure about the Villa keeper, something about her reminds me of nyland.
Well indeed. Major gaffe there. We've got the German no1 on the bench, signed from Lyon.
Too soft for both goals and hasn't commanded the box at all.
Agreed, and it just showed again there when neither the keeper nor defender could leave the ball for the other.
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Huge let off there. Keeper kicked it straight to a City player who squared it and somehow the striker put it over from about 6 yards.
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Dodgy offside
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Shocking decision, should be 1-2
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Playing well now
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Silva, the 19, looks the real deal. And Petzelberger playing well too. But that defence is sluggish on the right and nervy on the left.
And the less said about the keeper, the better. It's like having Nyland in goal and Neuer on the bench.
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Awesome to watch...🙄 sorry, i was just being honest
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Should be 1-2. Defence/keeper not at the races for 25 mins.
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the aim this year is to stay up. On that performance we'll comfortably do it. Man City are one of the top 4 teams in Europe.
We should make a couple of statement signings. Lucy Bronze is looking to move back to the UK, the best player in the world.
She's on about £200k a year.
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the aim this year is to stay up. On that performance we'll comfortably do it. Man City are one of the top 4 teams in Europe.
We should make a couple of statement signings. Lucy Bronze is looking to move back to the UK, the best player in the world.
She's on about £200k a year.
Does this sport generate enough income to pay for that salary?
There is a reason people don't watch this
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I’ve seen the goals against in the Women’s game....There’s much to admire about the women’s game but goalkeeping isn’t good. Crikey
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It will do in a few years, and it puts the whole club on the map.
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Jesus, those goals are liking watching kids mess around in a park. That's not professional quality football in a million years.
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Jesus, those goals are liking watching kids mess around in a park. That's not professional quality football in a million years.
We've seen stuff just as bad in the men's game. That stuff must happen every week across the leagues.
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Jesus, those goals are liking watching kids mess around in a park. That's not professional quality football in a million years.
We've seen stuff just as bad in the men's game. That stuff must happen every week across the leagues.
No! That's not correct. I get it that we want all the (put in all those things) - it is horrible to watch. It's not like one mistake in 90 mins, it is all the time.
What i don't get, is how come they don't get better. Handball - the level is so much higher. Normally a women handball game is better to watch than a mens game (highest level)
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Jesus, those goals are liking watching kids mess around in a park. That's not professional quality football in a million years.
We've seen stuff just as bad in the men's game. That stuff must happen every week across the leagues.
No! That's not correct. I get it that we want all the (put in all those things) - it is horrible to watch. It's not like one mistake in 90 mins, it is all the time.
What i don't get, is how come they don't get better. Handball - the level is so much higher. Normally a women handball game is better to watch than a mens game (highest level)
Gaffes happen all the time! There must be hundreds of youtube video compilations on them.
I do agree that the game is noticeably slower and the players look tiny. They're also playing with a size 5 ball, when I think it might be better to drop to a 4.
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Jesus, those goals are liking watching kids mess around in a park. That's not professional quality football in a million years.
We've seen stuff just as bad in the men's game. That stuff must happen every week across the leagues.
No! That's not correct. I get it that we want all the (put in all those things) - it is horrible to watch. It's not like one mistake in 90 mins, it is all the time.
What i don't get, is how come they don't get better. Handball - the level is so much higher. Normally a women handball game is better to watch than a mens game (highest level)
Gaffes happen all the time! There must be hundreds of youtube video compilations on them.
I do agree that the game is noticeably slower and the players look tiny. They're also playing with a size 5 ball, when I think it might be better to drop to a 4.
I agree you can do a compilation of 5 mins of gaffes... but not from 1 game
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Did you watch us last season
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Caught the second half of this.... Don’t think I’ll be watching again in a hurry.
Ball control is terrible.... clusters of players scrapping for the ball as it gets caught between a player’s feet - Playground stuff.
Hope it improves over time, but think I’ll stick to just internationals for the meantime.
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I thought we did better second half after poor start to the first half giving city two goals from mistakes.
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I do wonder how much of the gap in womens football is down to having not been professionally coached from the age of 6 or so.
Do think we should be going all out to fund & promote the womens side though. Seems like it's rapidly increasing in popularity, but the cost involved in getting to the top is still relatively low.
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Jesus, those goals are liking watching kids mess around in a park. That's not professional quality football in a million years.
We've seen stuff just as bad in the men's game. That stuff must happen every week across the leagues.
Men's Sunday League possibly.
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Sounds like the Villa Engine is finally being implemented, as the Villa Women are taking their lead from the men's team:
Manchester City began the new Women's Super League season with a 2-0 away win as England forward Georgia Stanway was gifted a first-half double by two defensive errors from newly promoted Aston Villa.
Two terrible mix-ups in the Villa backline saw Stanway tap in twice inside the first 21 minutes.
Now that's Villa DNA.
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Jesus, those goals are liking watching kids mess around in a park. That's not professional quality football in a million years.
We've seen stuff just as bad in the men's game. That stuff must happen every week across the leagues.
Men's Sunday League possibly.
about the level of Wimens football
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Apparently the goalkeeper isn't the regular first choice and quite young so hopefully she can learn from this and put it behind her quickly.
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Report and highlights (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53955822)
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Report and highlights (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53955822)
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There is a stickied thread for reserves, academy and women but it feels out of date plonking the women's side in with the kids.
Aston Villa WSL need their own thread.
If people really want it I'll sort something later and merge all appropriate posts
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First signing of the season for our newly-promoted heroines, Scotland international and will annoy Blose. Good news all round.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/02/chloe-arthur-signs-for-villa-women?g4id=5
New thread started for our Women's team. This starting post could not be moved. Hope everything is correct.
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Great news, thanks.
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Those two goals...Christ, painful to watch.
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Aston Villa will prevail.
Next match.
The match is our result.
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Perspective: villa beaten by the better side and better players.
We hadn't played competitively since February and had to take a step up in levels as well as 5 new players in the side.
First half in patches some very good football. I like Arthur she's decent as were the touches by Silva .
Staggering poor goals to concede as was the officiating with an unfairly disallowed goal just before half time for Larsen
Felt we didn't play to her strengths ,especially 1st half and would have had a couple of changes to Davies starting line up to support her as main striker.
Of course the calamity by gk Rodgers with Haigh dummy for goal was a complete gift shocking at any level of football.
Villa were doing ok before that . Neat football no major cutting edge though as had some chances .
There was a weakness to defend Chloe Kelly attacking forrays (she's a quality player and that made full back Franklin-Fraiture struggle quite a bit.)
Centre backs N'Dow at was committed and looked far more comfortable than Haigh in possession and at this level but that's just the first match and Haigh hopefully becomes more steady
Villa women wanted to play football which is always good to see at any level. Though unfortunately Rodgers playing out from the back was a poor decision in passing as was the back pass and that led to such another gift for goal number 2 . In honest Man City were wasteful with some more chances but Villa held in and should have had it 2-1 half time.
Those mistakes will happen and did.
But the most encouraging things were seen second half and performance. All be it at times I felt Man City coasted for a while , Villa women came out the better team from kick off and were much better in general second half. The new signings Silva should have scored and Larsen had one off the line.
It was also great for Rodgers to totally redeem herself 2nd half with a string of good saves.
Man City did have a couple rightly ruled out for offside but as I say we won't play as high quality a team and was probably best time to play them!
Villa women will play on the smaller pitch of Bescott Stadium from October . Next home match will be Everton on the 4th.
Reading away next Sunday another tough match on a big pitch.
Work in progress with plenty of positive signs. A good resistance not to shed a load of goals second half as Villa women kinda kept in it and weren't totally outclassed in the 90
The 2 mistakes what ultimately cost Villa from gaining any points. Disappointing in that respect but didn't expect to win this one!
Up the Villa and thanks for the sticky !
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1-0 down but there's not much between the teams. I think this will be a season much like the men had last year where the squad grows together and we have to put up with some mistakes and some poor performances.
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Its all a bit difficult 3-0 half time.
Penalty scored by Farrah Williams on half time (another we could have brought in window)
Villa women could do with some more established players.
Frustrating but let's just keep going
Not looking forward to when play Arsenal and Chelsea though.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54045175
Up the Villa
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Interview with Gemma Davies:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/oct/02/gemma-davies-there-hasnt-been-a-moment-when-i-didnt-want-to-coach
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Interview with Gemma Davies:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/oct/02/gemma-davies-there-hasnt-been-a-moment-when-i-didnt-want-to-coach
Of course good luck and much support but for me she's not up to standard to coach a Premier level team.
She's the youngest coach and is mad villa but the team and sqqud need an experienced and elite level manager to help them survive.
Or at least some decent support coaches because there has been naive play all round and feel Villa are being sentiments and loyal.
Its unfortunate realism to suggest that a better manager will help us push on
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Seems our women are as crap as our second string men.
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Getting hammered 4-0 last time I looked.
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6-0 now are we playing without a keeper or what
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Looking like a bridge too far for the ladies in this league at the moment.
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Looking like a bridge too far for the ladies in this league at the moment.
I thought we signed the player from Vitesse Arnhem for the Academy not the Ladies team.
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Just heard the result :(
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Aston Villa Women 0-6 Everton Women: Ruthless Toffees move top of WSL - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54305837
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Tough game 6-0 home defeat. And was only really hopeful for a goal.
Some matches thus season Villa will suffer heavy defeats due to gulf in quality and class but let's not be too despondent in some ways as the lower placed teams like Villa will all have these defeats.
Villa far better second half but it was unfortunate to be gifting goals which are the basic errors.
Next week match v Bristol City is the fixture to ear mark for any potential win.
They are one ,if not weakest teams and don't have great resources .
A positive result and 3pts there would be good indeed.
Matches against Man City away, Arsenal , Chelsea will have to be written off as potential heavy defeats
And really the remit is to stay up and perhaps finish above Birmingham.
Slowly establish ourselves but there are some encouraging signs.
Ideally a few USA players or a world class / established overseas player being signed would give us good competitiveness higher up however it's a work and learn in progress with undoubted ambition.
Of course as I say the coach isn't really at same level as many in the league but has done a superb job in bringing Villa up.
Anyway let's hope in the next game of the cup in week and then Bristol City next week two matches were wins can be a real possibility.
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Does this really need its own sticky? Very little in the way of interest it would appear, and the team are a shambles.
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I'm interested. And I think we have invested heavily in the squad.
Sack the manager.
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The only thing that make them worth watching is the hilarious ineptitude of the goalie.
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For a professional athlete the goalkeeper is very very poor.
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I’m interested as well!
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Does this really need its own sticky?
Could be considered to be a bit sexist. I'm interested, some of them are really fit birds.
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Ha.
Didn’t we sign the German international keeper?
Same as the men’s team with year we came up, loads of players nowhere near good enough for the top level and bringing in new ones takes time to settle
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Bristol City next looks a big game. Think it will be between us, them, Small Heath and maybe West Ham for the drop.
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Aston Villa Women are pleased to announce that Charlotte Clarke will be joining the club on a dual-sign registration for the remainder of the season.
Charlotte currently plays for Derby County of the FA Women's National League North, and will continue to do so.
Charlotte will add additional depth to the goalkeeping department.
Welcome to The Pride, Charlotte!
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Eh, anyone knows how that works?
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Was thinking exactly the same.
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Happens a lot down the non league system. Basically, she has no contract with anyone. Slightly strange though as usually they dual register with a club below not above.
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So who has first dibs?
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Usually the club they were first registered with, which is why they usually dual register with someone in a lower league. I assume it's the same with this, but seems weird.
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Think she's a goalie so perhaps we let her play for Derby but can call her back if we have an injury crisis.
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Pretty sure it will be a case of Derby letting her play for us, unless we're bunging them a few quid in some way.
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It looks like she's cover, so she'll play for them and we can call on her in an emergency.
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So who has first dibs?
You do. I think she needs to work on her conditioning before we put her in the first team.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/meet-britains-fattest-fitness-instructor-5228581
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Off the mark for the season with a one-nil win against Sheffield United in the Continental Cup Group Stage yesterday. Jodie Hutton (JODIE HUTTON!) with the only goal.
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Off the mark for the season with a one-nil win against Sheffield United in the Continental Cup Group Stage yesterday. Jodie Hutton (JODIE HUTTON!) with the only goal.
Thank goodness for that, I was beginning to give up on what little interest I have in them.
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Their next 2 matches have been postponed as a player has had a positive test for Covid.
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The girls have got the rona :(
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I've just heard that due to a positive Covid test the next two games have been postponed.
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I wonder if it was at Bescot or Bodymoor Heath or just picked up elsewhere.
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Aston Villa Women: Two games postponed as player tests positive for Covid-19 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54479013)
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The girls have got the rona :(
Cor Blimey!
Kind of relieved as the the headline on the BBC text said "Two Villa games off after Covid-19 test" which I thought might derail our title tilt.
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Last minute, our 'keeper tips one over the bar. And from the subsequent passage of play we score. 2-0 up, awaiting the whistle on our first win and clean sheet.
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Off the mark with a two-nil win at Brighton (well, at Crawley really but against Brighton). Thoroughly deserved, Brighton only had one real chance and we hit the post twice.
Small Heath next, on Saturday. COYVG.
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It’s great that you can watch it live on the FA website. Our keeper looks impressive.
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Crucial save at the end. Would have been hugely unlucky not to have won that.
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Good claim from the corner and then launched her kick for the assist.
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Decent warm up for Small Heath on Saturday in this evening's League Cup Group Stage game.
Coventry United 0
Villa 9 (nine)
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2.30pm KO https://faplayer.thefa.com/live/womens-super-league
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Also on Villa tv
https://video.avfc.co.uk/home?lang=en
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For anyone that has Firestick or similar you can cast the game from FA Player onto your telly. Anyway we have started okay without really creating anything.
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Maximum five subs allowed, we have nine on the bench they only have two.
There's this week's "spawny Vile" excuse ready made if we win.
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Well on top.Jodie Hutton seems the weak link.
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Nice backpass
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First big chance, straight at the keeper should have done better.
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This is rather pleasing on the eye.
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Our two full backs are excellent
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Header wide from a dangerous free kick. Nearly half time.
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Our two full backs are excellent
Agreed, especially no 4, Ella Franklin-Fraiture. That was a good half, the team has really settled down after their shaky start whilst embedding new players.
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Seems a real similarity to the first team style.
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It is throughout the Academy.
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I see Hutton has been booked for us.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/54072194
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Baddies on top second half. Our backpasses worry me.
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We've started to create the odd chance, still no goals.
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And with their first shot on target this half, Small Heath lead. 🤨
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Finished one-nil. Much like the men last year, we are desperately lacking a goalscorer. Should have just enough to stay up, though.
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They were more aggressive than us and their press was very effective. Thought we were more skill full but some of our passing was atrocious. Sharp learning curve this season methinks
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Jacksy fuckers
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Sponsored by Biffa. Rather appropriate for that rabble.
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Wimmin playing at VP? FFS...Nice assist by one of our lot for their winner too.
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First season in the top division- the men struggled last season, as well. They will get better! UTV!
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First season in the top division- the men struggled last season, as well. They will get better! UTV!
Totally agree Lou
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Rumour has it theyve retired the sports bra of the goalscorer.
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True. It has replaced David Dunn's in their "trophy room".
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Won 0-4 vs Bristol City.
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Started well. Were under the cosh for a while. Good steal, cross and finish just before half time. Never really in doubt from there.
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Won 0-4 vs Bristol City.
Brilliant. Well done Villa ladies.
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Well done Ladies. Was nil-nil when I gave up cos the screen kept freezing. So I'm thanking my crappy WiFi for the victory.
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Great result, just what we needed. Hopefully a confidence booster for next match
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Only one team goes down I think. This does put a bit of daylight between us and Bristol City so we should stop up.
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Great sponsorship deal announced with Cadbury.
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Article from the Daily Telegraph from a week or so ago, meant to post it but didn't ...
How Aston Villa Women are training their players' brains as well as their bodies
Villa's Student of the Game programme was the brainchild of sporting director Eniola Aluko
By Molly McElwee
5 December 2020 • 8:01am
Asmita Ale and Caroline Siems both cringe at the thought of their university class-mates finding out they have a top division footballer in their midst. "I don't think anyone in my class knows," Siems says of her second year Psychology class. "I haven't met anyone in person and no one turns on their cameras on our video lectures."
"You’re not going to be like, 'I play for Aston Villa,' while on Zoom," Ale adds, and they both laugh.
They are two of six Villa players benefitting from the club's Students of the Game programme, which sponsors their educational courses at Aston University. Ali and Siems are undergraduate students, Villa captain Marisa Ewers is completing a masters degree and defender Natalie Haigh has been given a dual role as footballer and analyst intern this season.
The idea for the programme came from Eniola Aluko, the club's women's football sporting director. A former England and Chelsea striker, she completed a law degree alongside playing and says it was her top priority to help others at Villa.
"It was the first proposal I wrote coming into the job earlier this year," Aluko says. "I balanced education and football for a long time, and always felt that it was something that clubs could do more. As female footballers, it's even more important, because we don't have the financial security that exists in men's football. I've been part of clubs that went bust and you've got to find a job. Thankfully, that's not so much the case now, but I still think we need to invest in our players as people and education is a huge part of that."
Ale and Siems both say football is their main priority, but Villa's programme was a big selling point, especially for Siems who signed from Frauen-Bundesliga club Turbine Potsdam this summer. "I’d been studying psychology in Germany for two years," Siems, 21, says, "and I actually found out through Eni that Aston Uni could offer me second year psychology. It made the decision to join easier."
Ale, 19, has been at Villa's academy since 2010 and said it was an easy transition after finishing her A-levels last season: "My parents were like, education first, whereas I’d rather have football first - this is an in-between. I think Eni’s really passionate about education too, the way she speaks about it is really powerful."
The team are still struggling to adapt to life in the Women's Super League, with just one win from five so far, but Aluko is helping the club become a trendsetter in the classroom. She says she has already fielded calls from other WSL sides on the programme, as they explore ways to retain young, talented players. "That, for me, is the most exciting part about this - the recruitment element," Aluko says. "If you look at Alessia Russo (Manchester United) and Grace Fisk (West Ham) now in the England squad, these players wanted to follow their education and we lost them to the American college system for four years because we don't give them an alternative option.
"Students of the Game is not full scholarships, hopefully we can get to that point, but it gives players a reason to stay playing in the best league in the world, while also progressing their education. We want it to have a ripple effect in the women's game."
That is the long-term aim, but for now Siems and Ale are, like many students, getting to grips with learning remotely under Covid-19 restrictions. It at least makes optimising their time easier, ahead of playing at home to Manchester United on Saturday. While both missed out on the traditional "fresher" student experience,, there is one student cliche they are well versed in. "I procrastinate and I’m quite behind at the moment.," Ale says sheepishly. Siems nods: "Me too, I have to catch up."
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I would also have to suggest that Davies would have to be eventually replaced as coach as despite her loyalty and passion her nous and accumen at top level is lacking and like how people were calling for Pochettino in the mens to replace Smith *unfairly for me * I would say its far more reasonable to suggest a big name in the womans game to come in at Villa women in the next 18 months as coach providing we stay up.
I don't really agree with you there. It's our first season in the WSL, so really the goal is to stay up. It looks like that's going to happen - as you said, I think that spot will be Bristol City's. So, regardless of anything else, whoever was manager will have earned themselves another year.
But, I'd add to that -- Gemma Davies is still a young coach/manager, and is still developing in that respect. She needs, IMO, to be given the time & space to grown in to her role. She also comes across as being a really intelligent, driven young lady who will flourish if she's given the support she needs. I'd also say that, with her involvement in Birmingham University, that's another big thing for us. With her, we can build & strengthen those links with the Birmingham & Aston Universities. Hopefully we can then go out to those 17/18/19/20 year old players, offer them a path that'll see them be able to fulfill their footballing ability, but also continue on academically so they're not compromising their future by playing football, ... I think it could be a big thing.
I could imagine that we might also be able to allow that to seep in to the men's youth teams too. We shouldn't only try to recruit the best players in the area. The ones who don't quite make it should be given the opportunity to follow another path - via the universities and practical experience at the club - to build a strong production line in terms of recruiting the best young physios, sports scientists, data analysts etc.
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Anyone seen Spurs' second goal on Sunday? Their striker lunges straight in on Weiss before the deflection carries it in.
Even Atwell would have spotted it!!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55379323
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That's a pretty impressive signing to be fair.
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Fair play, they mean business. Feel it will be like the men, where we do enough to stay up, and maybe make the League Cup Final, but improve dramatically in the second season.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55379323
This is exactly what I've been talking about and is the right move.
Signing international world class players
Getting the Japanese captain is unbelievable business and will boost the quality 10 fold of the team
Now all the clubs are bringing in recognised talent so in order to compete Villa had to do the same
Super move !
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Saturday's match against Arsenal postponed, due to Covid problems at Arsenal.
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Saturday's match against Arsenal postponed, due to Covid problems at Arsenal.
Do any of our women fancy a game against Liverpool tomorrow night instead?
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Saturday's match against Arsenal postponed, due to Covid problems at Arsenal.
Sounds like someone from Arsenal caught Covid when they had an unsanctioned trip to Dubai. Villa should be awarded the points imho.
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Tomorrow's game at Man City is live on BBC Red Button. Half twelve kickoff.
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Not a great start. Villa defence and midfield practising social distancing.
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Not a great start. Villa defence and midfield practising social distancing.
1-0 down after 2 mins, is there a thread on SHA yet?
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Woeful. Defending with all the intensity of an American police officer "trying" to stop a bunch of Nazis entering Congress.
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Hopefully we will have the last laugh on Weds, Jan. 20th as well.
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Crikey. 5 and we're not at half time yet.
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6-0, first set to Citeh.
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Embarrassing ,not for the first time this season Keep making basic errors and still the manager insists on the same play it out from the back Unless City ease up in the second half i can see this beating the 12 0 against United
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All our Academy teams use that system.
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Better 2nd half, City only won it 1 nil. The good news is Bristol City are 4 down to Everton.
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One of those horrible ones. ;)
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Not just at Villa, but they're massively trying to rush women's football, and give it the equivalence that it doesn't yet deserve. You can't just establish teams more or less overnight and treat it like it's elite sport, as in this case it really isn't.
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Embarrassing ,not for the first time this season Keep making basic errors and still the manager insists on the same play it out from the back Unless City ease up in the second half i can see this beating the 12 0 against United
I think this season is about survival, like for the men last season.
The few times I’ve watched highlights of the women there are a lot of naive errors.
To be fair on the manager, you have to admire her for sticking to her philosophy and not reverting to lump it up the pitch. Play a system and eventually things will click.
We have to remember that Man City and a couple more are way ahead of us at the moment
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Not just at Villa, but they're massively trying to rush women's football, and give it the equivalence that it doesn't yet deserve. You can't just establish teams more or less overnight and treat it like it's elite sport, as in this case it really isn't.
I struggle to get any enthusiasm for women’s football at all.
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Not just at Villa, but they're massively trying to rush women's football, and give it the equivalence that it doesn't yet deserve. You can't just establish teams more or less overnight and treat it like it's elite sport, as in this case it really isn't.
It's the top level of women's football. It's elite, well certainly at the end of it that Man City are in, anyway. Or would you say that Serena Williams and Shelly-Anne Fraser Price aren't elite because they probably wouldn't beat their male counterparts?
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Not just at Villa, but they're massively trying to rush women's football, and give it the equivalence that it doesn't yet deserve. You can't just establish teams more or less overnight and treat it like it's elite sport, as in this case it really isn't.
It's the top level of women's football. It's elite. Serena Williams and Shelly-Anne Fraser Price aren't elite because they probably wouldn't beat their male counterparts?
Completely disagree, and tI don't think the comparison to tennis isn't a valid one. Top women tennis players are every bit as skilful and "good at" as their male counterparts, they just in general, lack the physicality and therefore speed and power of the men. When you watch a tennis match between two of the top women, all you're not getting is the 150mph + serves for the most part, the rest of the game is every bit as good as the men. I've seen a lot of women's football, and it's mostly like watching non league or youth football. They might be the top level, but it's really, really notcieably much worse in terms of standard of play than the men's game. I'm not for one second saying women shouldn't play football, or that it's not a worthwhile endeavour, I just think it's artifically given too much attention when the overall quality hasn't earned that right yet.
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There are certain aspects of the Women's game that tells it apart. Poor heading, goalkeepers seems to be like Nyland good shot stoppers but unable to move from their line and the general physicality of defences.
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You could say that about lower league football, too. I still enjoy it.
Not sure why certain people feel the need to keep posting here to tell us how much they don't like it. I don't post on the cycling or jazz threads.
We can virtually never have a chat about how Villa Women are getting on without one or two posters banging on about how bad women's football is. It's tedious as fuck. And Manchester City were excellent. If you don't think they were good you're looking for reasons to criticise the sport. By all means, criticise Villa's performance today because it was shite.
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Not sure why certain people feel the need to keep posting here to tell us how much they don't like it. I don't post on the cycling or jazz threads.
We can virtually never have a chat about how Villa Women are getting on without one or two posters banging on about how bad women's football is. It's tedious as fuck.
Indeed, we wouldn't want to go off the topic of women's football on here so someone can repeat how dreadful they think something is. That would be tedious.
Woeful. Defending with all the intensity of an American police officer "trying" to stop a bunch of Nazis entering Congress.
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Manchester City were good but they were helped by the villa making it so easy I have watched us in 5 or 6 matches this season and apart from the game against Coventry United we have been outclassed every time .The seventh goal today summed us up ,the left back instead of knocking it out for a corner played a stupid back pass to the keeper who made a total mess of it They do it every game ,the first match of the season also against City was exactly the same two awful mistakes in the first few minutes and the game was as good as over
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Not sure why certain people feel the need to keep posting here to tell us how much they don't like it. I don't post on the cycling or jazz threads.
We can virtually never have a chat about how Villa Women are getting on without one or two posters banging on about how bad women's football is. It's tedious as fuck.
Indeed, we wouldn't want to go off the topic of women's football on here so someone can repeat how dreadful they think something is. That would be tedious.
Woeful. Defending with all the intensity of an American police officer "trying" to stop a bunch of Nazis entering Congress.
Poor taste that considering one died trying to do it, one black officer heroically lead protestors after him on his own and away from a door where many Congressmen were hiding and all the footage clearly shows officers out numbered and having 7 bells knocked out of them.
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Not sure why certain people feel the need to keep posting here to tell us how much they don't like it. I don't post on the cycling or jazz threads.
We can virtually never have a chat about how Villa Women are getting on without one or two posters banging on about how bad women's football is. It's tedious as fuck.
Indeed, we wouldn't want to go off the topic of women's football on here so someone can repeat how dreadful they think something is. That would be tedious.
Woeful. Defending with all the intensity of an American police officer "trying" to stop a bunch of Nazis entering Congress.
Poor taste that considering one died trying to do it, one black officer heroically lead protestors after him on his own and away from a door where many Congressmen were hiding and all the footage clearly shows officers out numbered and having 7 bells knocked out of them.
LOL.
It's Mr Jizzinhispants at the merest mention of conflict here to tell us that the Far Right racist police who did fuck all to stop a Far Right racist protest, causing some of their colleagues to die, should be above mockery.
Still, if you want to take offence at an offhand remark, you might want to stop with your "Drink The Kool-Aid" references, Boris Boy.
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You could say that about lower league football, too. I still enjoy it.
Not sure why certain people feel the need to keep posting here to tell us how much they don't like it. I don't post on the cycling or jazz threads.
We can virtually never have a chat about how Villa Women are getting on without one or two posters banging on about how bad women's football is. It's tedious as fuck. And Manchester City were excellent. If you don't think they were good you're looking for reasons to criticise the sport. By all means, criticise Villa's performance today because it was shite.
Ah yes, all the super keen, really dedicated fans of the Aston Villa women's team. There wasn't a single post the other day when they played, and most days when they do play, there's one or two if you're lucky. There was a request for a separate topic for them, but so far the youth and reserves get loads more comments, which shows you the almost complete lack of interest. And whether you like it or not, it's because the football is crap.
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You moaned earlier that the thread shouldn't be stickied because it would have brought you such hardship to have to scroll past it every day, then insist on bumping the thread with basically the same post over and over again. As for your comment that nobody mentioned the game the other day, maybe more people would have been reminded that a match was going on if the thread was stickied. 🙂
Still, there you go again with another lengthy rant about something you're not interested in.
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You moaned earlier that the thread shouldn't be stickied because it would have brought you such hardship to have to scroll past it every day, then insist on bumping the thread with basically the same post over and over again. As for your comment that nobody mentioned the game the other day, maybe more people would have been reminded that a match was going on if the thread was stickied. 🙂
Still, there you go again with another lengthy rant about something you're not interested in.
Ah well, at least you having a go at me reminds you to post in the thread I guess. I'll send you a reminder next time they play so you can remind everybody else what a superfan you are.
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It’s rubbish though. I’ve no interest whatsoever. What was the score?!
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You moaned earlier that the thread shouldn't be stickied because it would have brought you such hardship to have to scroll past it every day, then insist on bumping the thread with basically the same post over and over again. As for your comment that nobody mentioned the game the other day, maybe more people would have been reminded that a match was going on if the thread was stickied. 🙂
Still, there you go again with another lengthy rant about something you're not interested in.
Ah well, at least you having a go at me reminds you to post in the thread I guess. I'll send you a reminder next time they play so you can remind everybody else what a superfan you are.
I have goal alerts to remind me but an extra reminder can't hurt, many thanks 🙂
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You moaned earlier that the thread shouldn't be stickied because it would have brought you such hardship to have to scroll past it every day, then insist on bumping the thread with basically the same post over and over again.
Just to interject in this fun little dance, the thread hasn't been stickied since last October.
Because we decided that anything that people wanted to discuss would naturally move to the top of the forum. And given it's current place, people clearly have a firm interest.
The system works.
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What was the score?!
On second thoughts can we go back to arguing please? 😬
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Fair play Bully Wee for encouraging the women's game, hopefully the standard will improve as more funding is put into it and young girls are encouraged to take it up and given similar help to boys when it comes to resources and coaching. Will likely take at least a decade for that to show through at senior/pro level I guess.
I suppose the Beeb need to be seen to cover the sport not just in a lip service way (have seen comments from bloke football fans moaning about the football page being mixed with stories of both male and female football - "Why can't they have their own fcuking page so I can skip that content?" etc. ) Without giving increased content and coverage, traditional attitudes will never change. Just means there is somewhat of a painpoint now when in a high % of game highlights, you see a comedy blooper bit of defending.
Interesting to hear about the US Female National Team and their continued fight for pay parity with their male counterparts. Serious question, as I don't watch it, but do the US women's team play at a noticeably higher level compared to other countries?
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Not sure why certain people feel the need to keep posting here to tell us how much they don't like it. I don't post on the cycling or jazz threads.
We can virtually never have a chat about how Villa Women are getting on without one or two posters banging on about how bad women's football is. It's tedious as fuck.
Indeed, we wouldn't want to go off the topic of women's football on here so someone can repeat how dreadful they think something is. That would be tedious.
Woeful. Defending with all the intensity of an American police officer "trying" to stop a bunch of Nazis entering Congress.
Poor taste that considering one died trying to do it, one black officer heroically lead protestors after him on his own and away from a door where many Congressmen were hiding and all the footage clearly shows officers out numbered and having 7 bells knocked out of them.
LOL.
It's Mr Jizzinhispants at the merest mention of conflict here to tell us that the Far Right racist police who did fuck all to stop a Far Right racist protest, causing some of their colleagues to die, should be above mockery.
Still, if you want to take offence at an offhand remark, you might want to stop with your "Drink The Kool-Aid" references, Boris Boy.
Does that come in English, because I'm lost.
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I think they do. The college system doesn't compete financially with what, say, Manchester City or Barcelona spend on their men's academies. But it is streets ahead of the spending anyone else commits to women's football so, unsurprisingly, they are generally much better than anyone else.
A curiosity of their team is that, until quite recently, they hardly seem to play any club football. There are players with 200 caps who have played fewer than fifty league games.
So, as well as being the best funded, they are the best coached and most used to playing with each other. Basically a glorified club side.
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It’s rubbish though. I’ve no interest whatsoever. What was the score?!
Developments in the game were not necessarily to our advantage, just put it that way.
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There are certain aspects of the Women's game that tells it apart. Poor heading, goalkeepers seems to be like Nyland good shot stoppers but unable to move from their line and the general physicality of defences.
When watching womens International football the stand out thing for me is the poor quality of the goalkeeping.
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I've given up an awful lot of my free time over the last few years to facilitate girls football because I believe that team sports helps develop young kids in many ways. That said I do beleive that the pro game needs a lot of thought, the top few sides are miles ahead of everyone else, its iike shooting fish.
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There are certain aspects of the Women's game that tells it apart. Poor heading, goalkeepers seems to be like Nyland good shot stoppers but unable to move from their line and the general physicality of defences.
When watching womens International football the stand out thing for me is the poor quality of the goalkeeping.
I think that might be because when you’re a boy & not very good at football, you play in goal and maybe gradually get better at it, but when you’re a girl and not very good at football, you just don’t play.
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I think that might be because when you’re a boy & not very good at football, you play in goal and maybe gradually get better at it, but when you’re a girl and not very good at football, you just don’t play.
I think we might need to send Emi round to your house to have a quiet word with you. ;)
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There are certain aspects of the Women's game that tells it apart. Poor heading, goalkeepers seems to be like Nyland good shot stoppers but unable to move from their line and the general physicality of defences.
When watching womens International football the stand out thing for me is the poor quality of the goalkeeping.
I think that might be because when you’re a boy & not very good at football, you play in goal and maybe gradually get better at it, but when you’re a girl and not very good at football, you just don’t play.
There are many, many opportunites for girls to play whatever their age or talent. The funding from the FA for girls grassroots football has been decent.
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So the funding is there but it will take some time, no one should compare it with the mens game. its miles away.
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I very rarely watch women's football but I had a quick look at the highlights from today's game earlier.
The thing that struck me was not that they were technically less gifted, or that they were apparently lacking in physicality, but more the way that the defence just looked like they couldn't be arsed!
I don't think I saw a single defender throw themselves at the ball when it was clear that the striker was about to shoot and the goal we conceded where our defender gave up running whilst appealing for offside was pathetic.
There's zero difference in the sexes when it comes to commitment so I'm not sure why our ladies looked so "meh" to what was going on around them.
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I watch the highlights usually after MOTD 2.
There is huge gulf in woman's game, far bigger chasm between top and bottom than what we have in mens game and that is pretty vast nowadays.
At least only one team goes down otherwise we'd really struggle to stay in WSL. It's similar to last season, just scrape survival and try to build from there as teams like West Ham have been in the league for a few years and they're still struggling near the bottom, same for Spurs.
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Womens football is better being compared to rugby or cricket than the mens game. There is some quality but only enough to fill a handful of teams. Man City are one of those teams an when you add to that how early we are in our development results like today are going to happen.
Adding that breadth of quality isn't a quick process, left to happen naturally it could be 20-30 years. By over-exposing it they're trying to speed that up and improve the standards much faster. If 'you' aren't interested until it's further along then just ignore it and move on.
For me what really sets the womens game back is the weight of passing. In the mens game most teams in the top leagues are happy pinging passes around where the recipient has to be able to control it, in womens games the ball is often almost still by the time it gets to them, which makes it very slow by comparison. The top teams are already starting to change this though so it's clearly something that will phase out over the next few years.
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Without wishing to appear sexist, why don't they make the pitches and goals a bit smaller? The goalies are made to look even worse by the fact that most of them seem to be about 5'6". Most male keepers are a foot taller than that, and 6'1" would be considered too small for a bloke in today's game. Women play fewer sets in tennis and they use mostly use shorter, lighter clubs in golf, as examples of sports making changes to suit the fact that women on average are smaller than men.
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A good point, kids football has moved to smaller pitches and goals based on the kids growing age amd physical development. I guess that its a brave administrator who suggests that fully developed women shouldnt have equality on the field in terms of pitch size etc?
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The goalies are rubbish. Not much improvement in that position in last 15 years compared to outfield positions. I think rather than size of goals the keepers tend to dive a bit like Aaron Ramsdale and plenty of shots just trickle in.
Ultimately though last woman's world cup got massive viewing figures so there is good interest in England at least but anyone thinking they'll ever be 40k going down to VP to watch a WSL game is a bit optimistic unless it's one of those cheap ticket deals.
Would be interesting to see what crowd we would get v SHA if things are hopefully back to normal next season.
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Without wishing to appear sexist, why don't they make the pitches and goals a bit smaller? The goalies are made to look even worse by the fact that most of them seem to be about 5'6". Most male keepers are a foot taller than that, and 6'1" would be considered too small for a bloke in today's game. Women play fewer sets in tennis and they use mostly use shorter, lighter clubs in golf, as examples of sports making changes to suit the fact that women on average are smaller than men.
There's the obvious issues relating to equality, in that if the goal and pitch dimensions were altered, they would have more difficulty in arguing it's the same game as the one the men play.
Then there's the practical one of having to make, purchase and store different sized goalposts. Big clubs may be able to do this, but would local councils be able to do it for park pitches? Or would they have to segregate some pitches so that only girls/women can play on them, due to the specifications?
They could also try scouting tall girls/women for potential keepers.
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A Bigger Ball?
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Without wishing to appear sexist, why don't they make the pitches and goals a bit smaller? The goalies are made to look even worse by the fact that most of them seem to be about 5'6". Most male keepers are a foot taller than that, and 6'1" would be considered too small for a bloke in today's game. Women play fewer sets in tennis and they use mostly use shorter, lighter clubs in golf, as examples of sports making changes to suit the fact that women on average are smaller than men.
There's the obvious issues relating to equality, in that if the goal and pitch dimensions were altered, they would have more difficulty in arguing it's the same game as the one the men play.
Then there's the practical one of having to make, purchase and store different sized goalposts. Big clubs may be able to do this, but would local councils be able to do it for park pitches? Or would they have to segregate some pitches so that only girls/women can play on them, due to the specifications?
They could also try scouting tall girls/women for potential keepers.
Women play off a shorter tee in golf, I don't see it as an issue of equality, just common sense.
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The women’s game is where FFP or a draft system to even out talent would be more relevant than it is in the men’s - it is possible in WSL to buy success relatively quickly as Manchester United are proving & Manchester City have already done.
Goalkeepers was always the reason I didn’t watch but last World Cup they were at least adequate, you would hope with most clubs being aligned to a pro Mens team that they are pooling coaching (once Covid is done!) - would like to think Cutler & his goalie staff are also working with the women keepers
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The women’s game is where FFP or a draft system to even out talent would be more relevant than it is in the men’s - it is possible in WSL to buy success relatively quickly as Manchester United are proving & Manchester City have already done.
Goalkeepers was always the reason I didn’t watch but last World Cup they were at least adequate, you would hope with most clubs being aligned to a pro Mens team that they are pooling coaching (once Covid is done!) - would like to think Cutler & his goalie staff are also working with the women keepers
I can't imagine they do that at all. Both are full time jobs, and why would you undermine the women by combining training with the men? It would be a distraction and surely demotivating for the women.
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I think the women's game will come on in leaps and bounds and will adapt to the fact that women are undeniably physically different to men. My children are 9 and 7 and the girls in both classes play football as much as, if not more than, they do ballet. My daughter gave up ballet because it was too boring compared to 'real' sport. My son plays in an all boys team but there are sometimes girls in the opposition and they are often the star players, presumably because it's the more committed and sporty girls who stick at it. I watched the England/Germany match at Wembley, which was a great day out. What struck me was the talent and commitment and also the fact that the game is undeniably different because of things like the keeper not being able to kick the ball so far. Different, not worse. As far as I'm aware, women use the same tennis courts as men and play a slightly different way. A male decathlete usually wouldn't beat a top female specialist runner/thrower/jumper but we still watch them and think they're great athletes.
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The women’s game is where FFP or a draft system to even out talent would be more relevant than it is in the men’s - it is possible in WSL to buy success relatively quickly as Manchester United are proving & Manchester City have already done.
Goalkeepers was always the reason I didn’t watch but last World Cup they were at least adequate, you would hope with most clubs being aligned to a pro Mens team that they are pooling coaching (once Covid is done!) - would like to think Cutler & his goalie staff are also working with the women keepers
I can't imagine they do that at all. Both are full time jobs, and why would you undermine the women by combining training with the men? It would be a distraction and surely demotivating for the women.
I doubt coaches work with players from other groups but I'd be amazed if the coaches don't work together to share technical and tactical knowledge and develop shared training regimes. You can see pretty clearly that our U23 and U18 teams have adapted to play more like the senior team. I suspect the womens team will do the same in the long run but that right now it's tough because they're quite a long way behind other squad that have been fully professional for a lot longer.
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I'm sure the men's team coaches would pass on any benefits of their long experience if asked, but that's not the same as having shared training sessions. The U23s are a different case of course, because their whole reason for being is to advance into the senior men's team.
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Reading at home now on iplayer. Need to do a lot better. Mana Iwabuchi gets her first start.
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Losing already. Woeful start, have hardly been out of our half.
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No great surprise to find out we are losing already ,we are a poor side sadly
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Early in the season they were generally okay in possession but desperately lacking someone to score. Confidence seems to have affected them and they're getting worse as the season goes on. Have to hope we run out of games before Bristol City have enough time to catch up.
Three new defenders, a midfielder and genuine goalscorer needed. Preferably all tall as they never threaten from set pieces. Look at England the last few years or Germany/USA since forever for how effective a decent, tall, centre-forward can be in women's football. If things don't improve they'll need to start looking for a new manager, too, sadly.
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Very sticky hands from the keeper a minute ago, followed by forcing an opening we really should be scoring from.
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IWABUCHIIIIIIII!!!!
One each. Never doubted them. 🙂
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Didn't last fucking long. 1-2.
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Heavy snow now. Call it off!
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Was getting all excited and was going to praise them ,but in the time to took to have a pee we are losing again
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2-2, Iwabuchi assists Silva for her first goal. 91 minutes gone. Reading corner...
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Reading at home now on iplayer. Need to do a lot better. Mana Iwabuchi gets her first start.
Where on the iplayer?
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Are they playing at Villa Park? Pitch might not be great later.
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Full-time, 2-2. Will take that having been behind twice. Our first point, and our first goals, at home in the league this season. Iwabuchi looked good.
Five points clear of Bristol City and we still have a game in hand. They host top of the league Chelsea tomorrow, then we play Chelsea at home on Wednesday.
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Are they playing at Villa Park? Pitch might not be great later.
Bescot.
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Reading at home now on iplayer. Need to do a lot better. Mana Iwabuchi gets her first start.
Where on the iplayer?
Sorry, just spotted this. No, I was watching on the FA Player app. They tend to have all our games on there and it's free. Think we have only been on iPlayer once this season, the seven-nil battering at Man City last week.
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First goal...
https://mobile.twitter.com/BarclaysFAWSL/status/1352977718955175944
The second equalising goal...
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVWFCOfficial/status/1352986219215515648
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Did well to come back twice ,so credit to them
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Are they playing at Villa Park? Pitch might not be great later.
Bescot.
Thanks.
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Did well to come back twice ,so credit to them
Yeah, hopefully give them something to build on. The next two, Chelsea and Arsenal, are very difficult though. Realistically a point from either would be a great achievement. The gulf between the top and bottom of the WSL is much greater than in the Premier League.
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Well done ladies good point in the end, good to see Iwabuchi get her first goal, she's got over 70 caps for Japan, so gotta be good.
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Well done ladies good point in the end, good to see Iwabuchi get her first goal, she's got over 70 caps for Japan, so gotta be good.
Iwabuchi is a world class player. Makes a heck of difference having that quality Goal and assist with the equaliser coming right to the end
Great effort batting 2-2 !
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Could have won it. Missed a one one one in the last minute.
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We had a decent chance there to nick it towards the death, too, yet still managed to do that old Villa thing of having to cross some fingers in the last couple of minutes.
Much like happened with the men's team of last season, staying up could lead to some rapid development next, with hopefully more signings of the ilk of Iwabuchi.
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Marcus Bignot joining as interim mananger.
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The current coaching set up, including Davies, remain in their positions. Can hardly be seen as a vote of confidence.
Anyway, Bristol City's game against Chelsea was postponed due to snow. So Chelsea will be nice and rested when they play us. 😒
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The current coaching set up, including Davies, remain in their positions. Can hardly be seen as a vote of confidence.
Anyway, Bristol City's game against Chelsea was postponed due to snow. So Chelsea will be nice and rested when they play us. 😒
Cheslea are the best team in the league for me. Different level. I write that game off. As zero points. Would hope for a good performance and not as heavy a defeat as 7-0 but most of our players don't compare
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Marcus Bignot is our new women's football ,interim manager until the end of the season.
Hes currently joint-manager of National League North men's side Guiseley, will also share his duties with his FA role as an England Under-19 men's coach.
Ex-QPR defender Bignot was formerly head coach of Birmingham City Ladies.
Great name, looks a bit more intimidating than Gemma. He's married to Emma Byrne who played for Arsenal ladies for 16 years and the ROI ladies team a record 134 times so he has plenty of experience when it comes to woman footballers.
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Well done for suggesting that buying good players would be a clever thing to do Footy. Let's hope the men's team cotton on to thinking like that as well.
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If Chelsea are the best team in the league then they must be one hell of a team I have watched Man City score 7 two weeks running and if they had not eased up could have had double figures in both games Heaven help us against Chelsea
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Chelsea scored nine against our relegation rivals Bristol City (who just knocked us out of the League Cup). It could be a long night.
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I managed to see the highlights of the game v Reading. The first time I’ve seen this Villa ladies team in action. It’s a good job we are not as immersed in them as their male counterparts as I think the match thread would have seen the site shut down by half time.
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Lucky I am not emersed in the women's game. You can see what they are trying to do but cant carry it out for whatever reason. Have said it before the main things I notice are taking the ball high virtually doesnt exist, goalkeepers apart from shot stopping are poor, crossing hit and miss (thats true all the way up in the men's game mind) , never see players burst through wide and build ups far too slow.
Sure it will develop and get better over time.
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https://youtu.be/lairnQoeKeU
Game live. 0-4 down 10 mins o go
Wont help the mood watching those miutes then. Thanks anyway.
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Lost four-nil. Not as bad as I was expecting tbh. Arsenal next. That is also likely to be brutal. Bristol City have a winnable game against Brighton which could set up and unpleasant run-in.
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Another heavy defeat although not as bad as i feared. We sure do not help ourselves though do we .Yet another game we concede within the first five minutes and the game is as good as over
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Today's game against Arsenal postponed due to waterlogged pitch. Worryingly, Bristol City now only two points adrift after they gained their first win yesterday. Though at least it means Brighton are still in the mix, too.
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And West Ham, who we have to play twice, presumably?
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Yes, sorry, I only mentioned Brighton because they were the team that lost to Bristol City. West Ham lost to Man City and play Bristol next. If the latter put a run together than Blose and Tottenham could get dragged into it, too.
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Lovely goal by our new lady from Japan
https://twitter.com/avwfcofficial/status/1358034866525372416?s=21
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Cracking goal. What the keeper was doing I have no idea though!
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Not sure you can blame the keeper, that's just a fantastic hit.
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It's a great hit and it probably wouldn't have made a difference but the goalies positioning was dreadful.
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Heady heights of 9th.
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Couldn't watch the game, don't know how we played... but YAAAAAAAASSSS.
FUCK OFF TOTTENHAM.
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Iwabuci is world class .
Makes all the difference
Brilliant
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A nice hat-trick against the scum midweek would be nice.
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Watch: Wonderful Mana Iwabuchi goal earns Aston Villa WSL win against Spurs - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/55965268
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I can’t really say I watch the women’s game but that was some goal.
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Well done Villa lasses, Bignot has certainly made a difference , the defence look a lot better and yes it was some strike by IIwabuchi .Beating Spuds and the Arse in one afternoon i like it
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Watch: Wonderful Mana Iwabuchi goal earns Aston Villa WSL win against Spurs - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/55965268
That was one heck of a goal.
Will give the confidence for next game.
I mentioned earlier in this thread that this season for the ladies mirrors that of the men last season.
Promotion ahead of schedule and a lot of new players to bed in.
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Well that's it, I'm now sold on following the Villa women. Iwabuchi - what a name, what a fcuking player! She scored and assisted brilliantly in the last minute a couple of weeks ago on her debut in the snow against Reading to rescue a draw and that goal yesterday was top-drawer. How have we managed to sign her ahead of the elite clubs at this level?
I wish we had a superstar Asian player in the men's team. Maybe Son will get disillusioned at Spurs when we finish the season ahead of them.
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Fantastic goal!
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Well that's it, I'm now sold on following the Villa women. Iwabuchi - what a name, what a fcuking player!
Surprised you eschewed the 'Mana from heaven' opportunity. :)
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Well that's it, I'm now sold on following the Villa women. Iwabuchi - what a name, what a fcuking player! She scored and assisted brilliantly in the last minute a couple of weeks ago on her debut in the snow against Reading to rescue a draw and that goal yesterday was top-drawer. How have we managed to sign her ahead of the elite clubs at this level?
I wish we had a superstar Asian player in the men's team. Maybe Son will get disillusioned at Spurs when we finish the season ahead of them.
How quickly people forget Neil Taylor! ;)
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No Villa players named by Hege Riise, England's interim manager, in her first squad, I expect that is no surprise.
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Blues away today 6pm ko
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Well that's it, I'm now sold on following the Villa women. Iwabuchi - what a name, what a fcuking player! She scored and assisted brilliantly in the last minute a couple of weeks ago on her debut in the snow against Reading to rescue a draw and that goal yesterday was top-drawer. How have we managed to sign her ahead of the elite clubs at this level?
I wish we had a superstar Asian player in the men's team. Maybe Son will get disillusioned at Spurs when we finish the season ahead of them.
How quickly people forget Neil Taylor! ;)
Oh...erm, yeah. And he was even in the news yesterday speaking about how to get more Asian kids into football.
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We have played better than results suggest. There are 3 groups in this league, the top teams, not a chance of being them at the moment, the relatively safes, were not too far from them, and relegations. We're on the cusp of leaving them. We should stay up this year and if we do we can push on. Bristol will go down. Then next season whoever comes up plus SHA should be favourites. I say SHA as they haven't got a full squad, they are playing with fewer subs than are allowed. They can't afford them.
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Subsequent Tweets say that the game was postponed, and that it has kicked off...
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Seems like it is off.
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Frozen pitch.
Seems like a very late call though.
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Don't really mind the late decision in this case. I expect they tried to give it every chance, and thought there was no rush to make a decision like there would be if you had a crowd, especially with neither team having to travel far. Just a shame Villa Tweeted that the game had kicked off leaving me swearing at the FA Player stream for not working! 😀
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Strange. I thought games between Villa and Blose always kicked off.
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I'll be disappointed if they didn't at least have a snowball fight.
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Villa postponed again, against Arsenal this time. Bristol City lose 5-0 at home to Chelsea.
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Marcus Bignot joining as interim mananger.
I read an article about Guiseley and one of their fans called him the non-league Pep.
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Villa 0 Arsenal 0 at half-time. We haven't really offered anything going forward but would be more than happy with this score if we could hold on.
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Arsenal take the lead... just as we had started to look a bit better.
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Two-nil. Off it goes.
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Finished four-nil. We are still some way short of teams of Arsenal's standard.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56154718
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Thought we were lucky it was only four .Arsenal were stronger and faster and you just knew it was a case of when they would score and how many
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Villa women being totally outplayed again against Man United .At half time its 2-0 but we have hardly crossed the half way line Yet again Villa the cause of their downfall a awful back pass straight to a United player and then stood a watch a United player have a free header for the second
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The disparity in this league is shocking. Such poor fare.
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Your right kippaxvilla i have just watched the Man Utd v Villa game followed by the Small Heath v Arsenal game Both Villa and Small Heath both totally outclassed .I can't recall either side having as much as a shot at goal Just a question of how few they could avoid conceding
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Bristol City win. Bugger. We could really do with beating Brighton in our next game.
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Apparently Villa didn’t have a shot at all yesterday. Let alone on or off target.
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Yeah Bristol City have suddenly started winning games ,thought Reading after beating Man Utd last week would be to good for Bristol so yeah it is a bad result .From what i have seen of our last couple of games a shot at goal would be nice let alone a goal
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We barely got in to their half.
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Reminds me of the men in 2015-16
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Home game against Brighton about to start on the FA Player. Bristol City and West Ham both only two points behind us, so a good game to win if we can.
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Bristol City and West Ham both losing. Nice of that lot down the road to do us a favour.
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Villa losing 1-0, to a goal that would never have been given in the Prem. Shot saved, forward lunges in with the keeper, ball squirms in.
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I thought it was a legitimate goal. Keeper should have held it or pushed it behind.
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Would certainly have been given at any other level below the men's Prem.
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Villa women losing already and being outclassed as usual sadly A long night in store
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Jeez we're crap
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I have never seen anyone who is worse at crossing than our number four. Unfortunately our gameplan seems to consist of giving her the ball to make crosses...
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Penalty needlessly given away by goalkeeper... two-nil. We are going down.
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Another awful error from the Villa keeper conceding a needless penalty Would love to see us actually score a goal i cant remember the last time we scored
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Penalty needlessly given away by goalkeeper... two-nil. We are going down.
West Ham were beating Blues last time i looked as well,
At least Bristol City were losing.
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Late Blose equaliser keeps us one point clear of West Ham as well as Bristol City. Still, they both occasionally score a goal, so they'll finish above us. Getting promoted, releasing our top scorer, and not replacing her was utter madness.
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There's too big a disparity between the teams who have been investing in the women's side for a while, and those who are trying to catch up. They need to have a look at the league structure and divide it up accordingly, so it's a bit more competitive. I know the men's game isn't exactly competitive, but every team can in theory give another team a decent game. The bits I've seen of most of Villa's games, it's like watching a Premier League team take on a non-league side. It's not just Villa though, it's easy to tell the relative 'newcomers'.
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Hasn't money only recently started flowing into the game outside of, at most, four or five clubs?
Maybe it will get more competitive, but I doubt you will get the teams at the bottom beating the top clubs any more regularly than it happens in, say, the Scottish (men's) Premiership, for a few years yet.
I think it would take a number of seasons to get to the stage where Villa could even think about being able to compete with the likes of Man City, even if we do manage to stay up.
It would only have taken the addition of one half-decent striker to be relatively safe from relegation, though. Considering the investment everywhere else in the team, it is baffling that they neglected such an important position.
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I’m sorry to say but I cannot take it seriously due to the utter disparity between the teams and the utter awfulness of those below halfway.
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The women's team need a better keeper than Weiss. She's erm, not very good.
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Sat 24 April we're at home to Bristol City, that'll probably be the relegation decider.
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Sat 24 April we're at home to Bristol City, that'll probably be the relegation decider.
We have away and home games against West Ham either side of that game, could also be pretty vital.
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Away game at Chelsea on BT Sport 3 now. Bit of a free hit today really, more a case of keeping the score down.
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Showing the women’s games live here now. Watching us at Chelsea. Never watched the ladies until today. Quite enjoyable without any of the stress of watching the men.
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Crap... 1-0 Chelsea
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Lost two-nil, which was better than I was expecting. If we could ever score a goal we might have a chance of beating some of our fellow strugglers.
Need Blose to beat Bristol City to avoid going back to second bottom but Bristol have an early lead.
West Ham are at Reading next Saturday and if they avoid defeat we will likely be bottom when we kick off against Everton on the Sunday.
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Bristol are 1-0 up against Blose...
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Fixtures certainly do not get any easier do they Everton next week who won 5-0 at Brighton a team who beat us fairly comfortable last week .I honestly can not remember the last time we scored must be five or six games now
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West Ham game is the target for 3 points and escape.
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Neither the men's or wimmin's team could score in a proverbial at the moment.
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Think after Everton we play Brizzle and Wet Spam
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Not surprisingly we're the lowest scorers in the league with 11 from 16 games, Blues are next with 13 from 17
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West Ham two up at Reading after ten minutes. We're fucked.
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Three-nil inside 15. Useless Reading bastards!
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Five-nil after 37. Reading are on the take.
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4 -0 to Wet Spam now,i doubt we have scored that many all season Fair play to Wet Spam they did what i never see our women do and attack and have a shot
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WE SCORED A GOAL! Still lost, as usual.
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Being cast adrift at bottom now. massive game 24th April at home to Bristol.
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Yeah we actually scored a goal in something like the 97th minute .Villa tried hard but are just not good enough sadly Our player Hutton what a awful player she is Was responsible for the first goal when she missed a simple through ball and then managed to concede two pens in the second half
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We moved the ball nicely at times. Shania Hayles put a real shift in all game.
Asante and Ale looked class at the back.
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Blues women complaining about conditions within the club. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56642488)
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Blues women complaining about conditions within the club. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56642488)
Sky quoting that they're in danger of being expelled from the league.
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Obviously I don't want Villa finishing bottom. But if we finished in a relegation spot and were reprieved by them getting kicked out it would be the most Blose thing ever.
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I see our womens team putting their usual pathetic show on again at Man City 7 0 which was the score earlier in the season against them
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Make that 8 now and i have just discovered that in five games against City we have never so much as scored a goal You have to have a shot girls to have any chance of scoring
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Ouch!
Manchester City 8-0 Aston Villa: Chloe Kelly hat-trick sends holders into fifth round of Women's FA Cup - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56784785
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Oh dear ......they really aren't very good at all - Aston Villa Lionesses.............pussies more like :(
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Ouch!
Manchester City 8-0 Aston Villa: Chloe Kelly hat-trick sends holders into fifth round of Women's FA Cup - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56784785
Concentrate on the league now, eh ladies?
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They're putting on a good 2nd half against West Ham. It's on BT Sports now, about 15-20 minutes left to go.
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0-0 game over, we're off the bottom on goal difference.
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That'll do. West Ham were in far better form than us. Bristol City next, could be decisive.
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Still cant score but at least we did not concede and are off the bottom
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best thing is we have two of our best midfielders back from reasonably long injuries
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That'll do. West Ham were in far better form than us. Bristol City next, could be decisive.
Make or brake that one, win and match their results we should be OK.
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Watched the managers after game interview and he seems to have got a mentality into them as a group that has been missing. Also a few back from injury will help. Game against Bristol is critical.
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Where was Nadine Hanssen?
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Big game today! A win would probably be enough.....
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COYVG.
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Already 1 up own goal come on you ladies
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Get another please, Villa. I'm not watching, they're worse when I watch.
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Two-nil!
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Some good forward play,especially Hayles & Larsson.No real danger at the back.
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Bugger, two-one. Nervy finish incoming.
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One of six added minutes played.
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I'm all for women working in sport but when you are incompetent and just given the job because you are a woman it's a bit of a mess. Case in point the commentary of this game on BBC radio. The commentator, since Bristol scored has repeatedly (at least 10 times) said the score is 2-0. Surely getting the score right is a basic requirement for a commentator
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2-2. FFS.
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That's pathetic. Survival was there for the taking. FT.
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I'm all for women working in sport but when you are incompetent and just given the job because you are a woman it's a bit of a mess. Case in point the commentary of this game on BBC radio. The commentator, since Bristol scored has repeatedly (at least 10 times) said the score is 2-0. Surely getting the score right is a basic requirement for a commentator
How do you know she was just given the job because she was a woman? Are there no rubbish male commentators?
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Villa innit !
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That's on the shouty coach for me.Put the fear of God in us after 2-1. Larsson couldn't run after 75mins and should have been subbed.Stupid coaching.
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I'm all for women working in sport but when you are incompetent and just given the job because you are a woman it's a bit of a mess. Case in point the commentary of this game on BBC radio. The commentator, since Bristol scored has repeatedly (at least 10 times) said the score is 2-0. Surely getting the score right is a basic requirement for a commentator
How do you know she was just given the job because she was a woman? Are there no rubbish male commentators?
I'd even go so far as to ask are there actually any good male commentators?
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So the men aren’t the only ones who give away 95 minute goals.
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In fairness, Villa Women have usually lost long before then.
They can redeem themselves if they beat Small Heath on Wednesday...
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Villa innit !
Yep, they’re right on brand.
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Bristol City's last 2 games are against Man Utd and Brighton, all I will say is not easy games.
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Their last game is Brighton and ours is Arsenal. You wouldn't want to go into those games not safe as they could easily beat, or at least avoid defeat against, Brighton. We need to get something, ideally at least one win, from the Blose and West Ham games.
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2 game unbeaten run.
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WSL Highlights: Bristol City score late goal to draw with Villa in relegation battle - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/56873913
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Only one team relegated...it's hardly the herculean effort required by the men's team with a few games left last season. Come on girls, get your fcuking fingers out!
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3 games left, 2 against the teams directly above us (by a point) in the table, Blues and West Ham, surely we can get two draws minimum. Preference would be to beat Blues hope Bristol lose their next game pretty much guaranteeing safety then Bristol winning their last game to relegate Blues.
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Not the situation we want to be in, though realistically Bristol City are not going to pick up another point and are likely to be beaten by several goals in one if not both of their remaining games - their goal difference is already 19 worse than ours.
So we should stay up, just. And then good recruitment is vital. Sounds familiar! ;)
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It's such a bonkers, imbalanced league.
If you look at the form table, West Ham are the only team in the bottom six to have won a game out of their last 5 matches. That's a quarter of the season.
The top two, Chelsea and Man City, on the other hand have only dropped points in one of their last 5 games each - when they played each other and drew.
It's just silly.
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It's such a bonkers, imbalanced league.
If you look at the form table, West Ham are the only team in the bottom six to have won a game out of their last 5 matches. That's a quarter of the season.
The top two, Chelsea and Man City, on the other hand have only dropped points in one of their last 5 games each - when they played each other and drew.
It's just silly.
That's largely to be expected unfortunately, there's currently just not enough top flight standard players to fill 12 squads so there's 4-5 teams with proper quality all over the pitch and then everyone else has varying degrees of kids that aren't ready (we have a fair few of those in our squad) and players that are making up the numbers. It's the same issue rugby union has suffered with for years since professionalisation, it'll be 10-15 years before the league starts to level out a bit but in the meantime there's plenty of room to buy your way into the first group
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Saw the highlights tonight and thought we looked rather good. Their supersub made the difference and their second was in the 95th minute, which was galling.
We had a few chances, so look out Blose.
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We should have won and I think we would have if the 'keeper had come for the late free-kick.
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On the FA slayer now v.the noses
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1-0 up.Freya Gregory
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Yasss!
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A win would surely make the women safe?
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Wish our coach would tone it down a bit.
He comes over like a kids under 9 manager.
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A win would surely make the women safe?
With Brizzle's goal difference you'd feckin' hope so.
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A win would surely make the women safe?
Barring Bristol City, at least, avoiding defeat at Man U, I think.
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Half time, one-nil to the goodies.
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Similar to the last match.Go in the lead,become like nervous chickens.
Here's a thing coach.Shut the fuck up,you're putting the fear of God in your own team.
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The ball is like a hot potato and no one is showing any composure.
Weiss is a proper vampire....frightened to death of crosses.
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I reckon the girls are tougher than the guys. Go down theres no screaming just get on with it. Same with the kids last night.
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It's happened again. FFS. Two 95+ minute equalisers against in a week. We seem determined never to win.
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Fucking hell.
Don’t they learn.....deja vu.
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Why are the coaches telling the ladies to kill the game by taking the ball into the corners with 10 minutes to go?
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We do love a late goal don't we? Where is VAR when you need it?
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We need a goalie, like the men’s side for about 10 seasons before Heaton and Martinez appeared
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The refereeing in that game was utter shit. None of the free kicks or throw ins were taken within five yards of the offence. Ridiculous
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We do love a late goal don't we? Where is VAR when you need it?
It's being introduced in the Women's Champions League. I don't think we'll have to worry about that for a while...
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That's down to the stupid time wasting tactics at the corner flags for the last 15 mins.God that Marcus Bignot is a twat
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Watched 2nd half. I thought we were going to do it. I'm sure that free-kick was supposed to be taken by the touchline. No wall though didn't help.
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The free kick was taken miles away from where the handball happened.
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That's down to the stupid time wasting tactics at the corner flags for the last 15 mins.God that Marcus Bignot is a twat
Bluenose Bignot. From a discussion I once had with him when he was Solihull Moors' manager he can't stand us. Surprised he took the job but presumably the money talked.
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So Bristol need to beat either Man U or Brighton and hope we get nothing from our last 2 games?
Have to say, only watched a bit. But I've watched quite a few England games the last few years and our ladies are miles of the standard of Houghton, Bronze, Scott etc.
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I can see them beating Brighton and that would be us down. Assuming we lose to Arsenal, a draw wouldn't be enough at West Ham, and we never win...
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Why are the coaches telling the ladies to kill the game by taking the ball into the corners with 10 minutes to go?
Exactly.
Go for the killer goal.
Doing what we did always leaves it open for the sucker punch.
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We do seem determined to be relegated, I must say.
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Bunch of fcuking losers...like the men's team from five years back. Brainless, allowing that free kick to bounce in directly.
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I put it on the FA Player at 84 minutes....trying to kill the clock rather than trying to score a goal is cowardly football rather than clever football & got exactly what it deserved.
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It's okay if you have the players to do it. We clearly don't.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56923537
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Very disappointing. Should have won last two games instead of allowing last gasp equalisers.
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We do seem determined to be relegated, I must say.
Nah. Thump West Ham at the weekend and it's all good.
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Or... get every penny you own on draw if we are winning with 90 minutes played.
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I don’t see any of the Women’s games, but I’m interested in the manager.
From what I’m reading, he’s not great tactically and he’s quite the loudmouth on the touch line. Is this holding them back? I’m sure they had a female manager at the start of the season, so I’m assuming she was sacked at some point?
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Yeah, she was just as bad/worse. Not shouty, just not up to it.
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I don’t see any of the Women’s games, but I’m interested in the manager.
From what I’m reading, he’s not great tactically and he’s quite the loudmouth on the touch line. Is this holding them back? I’m sure they had a female manager at the start of the season, so I’m assuming she was sacked at some point?
I think she's still there as 'head coach' but he came in as manager over her to add some experience and make the defence tighter because we were conceding far too many goals at the start of the season.
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I don’t know about experience. From what I’ve seen (minimal) he’s added the ‘dickhead’ factor.
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Birmingham City charged by FA with playing Ruesha Littlejohn while suspended
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56934344
It would be more than a little bit funny if they got relegated instead of us because of a points deduction...!
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Make it happen, please. 🙂
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They deserve to, the dirty fuckers
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We do seem determined to be relegated, I must say.
Nah. Thump West Ham at the weekend and it's all good.
Hope this is still true!
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Make it happen, please. 🙂
Another vote here
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Aston Villa v West Ham United - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56876262
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I don't see Diana Silva in the line-up today, is she injured?
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A very nervy first half.
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Well 0-0 but crucially stay a point about Bristol City with a far superior goal difference. Hopefully they will lose against Manu.
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The trouble is next weeks fixtures, away at Arsenal we’re likely to lose, Bristol Away at Reading who are mid table. Squeaky bum time.
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ManUre Women score
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So we need a point to stay up and Arsenal need a point to secure Champions League. And surely no one wants to risk an injury ahead of their summer holidays. I am sure something can be worked out. Otherwise need Bristol City not to win at Brighton - wouldn’t want to be relying on that.
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Arsenal have basically secured third so there is no need for them to agree a draw, especially as they'll likely batter us. I have a bad feeling about next week, can see those injury time goals being the difference.
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Arsenal have basically secured third so there is no need for them to agree a draw, especially as they'll likely batter us. I have a bad feeling about next week, can see those injury time goals being the difference.
Don't worry, we can always rely on Arsenal.
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Arsenal have basically secured third so there is no need for them to agree a draw, especially as they'll likely batter us. I have a bad feeling about next week, can see those injury time goals being the difference.
Oh yeah - hadn’t looked at the goal difference haha ! Which is ironic as it is basically what I’m pinning my hopes on !
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Presumably Birmingham will face some kind of punishment for fielding the ineligible player.
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Judging by the men's team, they'll get the exact punishment that guarantees that it doesn't make any difference.
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Judging by the men's team, they'll get the exact punishment that guarantees that it doesn't make any difference.
Indeed. As soon as the final round of games have been played the FA will suddenly pop up with the punishment.
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A delayed 3 point deduction applied next season.
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Arsenal have basically secured third so there is no need for them to agree a draw, especially as they'll likely batter us. I have a bad feeling about next week, can see those injury time goals being the difference.
Don't worry, we can always rely on Arsenal.
Arsenal women we're talking about. They are high quality
Montemurro last match in charge he'll want to go out on a high can only see a defeat and a possible heavy one at that like the. 4-0 beating at home fixture
Disappointing if go down but deserve too if that's how it goes.
I'm not convinced Bristol City will win away at Brighton but I'm less convinced Villa can get a result v Arsenal. Arsenal have world class players and Villa likely to lose.
Ok we only need a point as GD better that Bristol but the Villa women don't have enough quality and in comparison there is no match it's a mismatch so really hope Bristol city don't win their match
It's those late minute goals conceded in past matches that outdone us and left the club in a precarious position. This should be avoidable but fingers crossed somehow sneak it by results for Bristol not to win.
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Judging by the men's team, they'll get the exact punishment that guarantees that it doesn't make any difference.
And as if by magic, they get a 1 point deduction.
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Judging by the men's team, they'll get the exact punishment that guarantees that it doesn't make any difference.
And as if by magic, they get a 1 point deduction.
That’s actually taken quite a bit of ingenuity - to give them a punishment that looks reasonably harsh but has absolutely zero impact.
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Judging by the men's team, they'll get the exact punishment that guarantees that it doesn't make any difference.
And as if by magic, they get a 1 point deduction.
That’s actually taken quite a bit of ingenuity - to give them a punishment that looks reasonably harsh but has absolutely zero impact.
Again.
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Judging by the men's team, they'll get the exact punishment that guarantees that it doesn't make any difference.
And as if by magic, they get a 1 point deduction.
That’s actually taken quite a bit of ingenuity - to give them a punishment that looks reasonably harsh but has absolutely zero impact.
Again.
Spawny Vile. ..
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I find if very annoying that the match is an overlapping with Villa v Man Utd mens today.
This is the womens biggest game of the season and it never helps for support and views when it's on direct competition with mes
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Blame Sky TV.
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Not so easy to avoid this week with all the games finishing at once, you were always going to have it clash with some men's game. Earlier in the season though, it's stupid how many times our men and women have played at the same time.
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I’m hoping that Brighton can go 3-0 up in about half an hour like Arsenal did to Watford last season.
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At 4.20 this afternoon the table will stay as it is now.
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I have a bad feeling that Brighton Women will let us down. Can't see us getting anything from Arsenal, even if they have nothing to play for.
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At 4.20 this afternoon the table will stay as it is now.
why, are all the games postponed?
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Bristol City go behind. 😀
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Now two-nil.
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brill
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2-1 now, Villa and Blose both still nil-nil. Half an hour or so to go.
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Blose women losing, we are above them as it stands. No doubt we will concede in injury time, as usual.
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Tottenham 1up on Birmingham now
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Bristol City 3-1 down. Just over ten minutes left in all the games.
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Five minutes added on in Villa game.
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All over. Great draw for Villa. Bristol City lost and are relegated. Small Heath lost and finish below us courtesy of their point deduction. They'll love that, I'm sure 😄
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Good job. Need to invest though we have very little possession or shots in most games it seems. But massive to stay up as the women’s game is going to be higher profile on tv next season.
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Congrats to the women's team - 5 undefeated in a row and finishing above Small Heath. (Just don't look at the number of shots on goal in the past few matches...)
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Yeah well done ladies, that's lifted my depression, not a lot, but it has lifted it. As with the men, let's hope for improvement next season.
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Great result and finish to the season, phew
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Congrats to the women staying up!
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Excellent. Congratulations.
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As I thought Bristol City lost! Again!
Brilliant result for the Villa women themselves to make a draw and can look to progress next season.
The key is recruitment and bringing in a far higher quality player
Brilliant had to stay up for good of the club as relegation would be no ear disastrous and take steps back now can really look to establish
Well done it was hard season however Bristol were the right team to be relegated
So pleased get the results to do the business
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As I thought Bristol City lost! Again!
Brilliant result for the Villa women themselves to make a draw and can look to progress next season.
The key is recruitment and bringing in a far higher quality player
Brilliant had to stay up for good of the club as relegation would be no ear disastrous and take steps back now can really look to establish
Well done it was hard season however Bristol were the right team to be relegated
So pleased get the results to do the business
I only watched a bit of it but what would concern me is that our formation looked a lot like 8-1-1 for the 25-30 minutes I saw. They need to work on keeping their shape and not having to retreat to defending the edge of the box next year. I understand it this season, we were conceding too many goals and looked too open at the start so they've concentrated on defensive stability but we need to add more of a threat of our own if we want to do anything more than hang on to the place in the league.
On that note I'm not sure why Iwabuchi hasn't been starting, she looks much more dangerous than our other attacking options.
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important to stay up. more money going into the league next year. lots more. to put it into perspective Leicester got promoted this year with nowhere near our points last year. SHA are broke. Also 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' got relegated last year and 2 of their players quit football, one to open a hairdressers, there was more money in that for her. Eni has done a good job with Uni's in Brum, so players sign knowing they can get a degree while playing football.
That's the level of money you are looking at.
£1m would buy you all of the top 5 players in the world with a combined salary of £2m a year.
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Yeah well done ladies, that's lifted my depression, not a lot, but it has lifted it. As with the men, let's hope for improvement next season.
I said earlier in the thread that the women’s first season in the WSL would mirror the mens first in the PL.
A lot of new faces came in, so with a bit more investment we should move up a few places next season.
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
She's massive here. No mention of the men's match whatsoever on the sports news this morning, just a slot about Iwabuchi.
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Bignot leaves.Thank the fuck for that.
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Hopefully get a big name replacement. Hope Powell seems to have done a decent job at Brighton?
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Surely he did the job he was employed to do. Just shows though these owners won’t mess about.
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He was only an interim manager, so presumably would have had to do something spectacular to keep the job. He didn't, he won fewer games than Bristol City in the same period.
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He's also got another job to go back to
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The OS confirming Gemma Davies and her assistant Jenny Sugarman have also left.
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Aston Villa Women can confirm that Head Coach Gemma Davies and Assistant Manager Jenny Sugarman have left the club following the completion of the season.
Gemma joined Villa in 2018 and secured promotion to the WSL last season after steering the team through an unbeaten Championship campaign and led the team into the Super League season which ended yesterday with a draw at Arsenal and a 10th place WSL finish.
Jenny joined the club in 2019, working closely with Gemma throughout this period.
The Club would like to thank both Gemma and Jenny for all their efforts while at Aston Villa and wish them every success for the future.
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Thanks for getting us promoted and good luck. Feel sorry for them but it's a cut throat business. They played their part in the club's history getting us promoted to the top flight for the first time ever.
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Gemma Davies is very young isn't she? Isn't she still in her 20's? She'll get a new coaching role somewhere and has time on her side. I wish her well.
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It’s a shame for Davies but shows the club are serious about taking ALL of our teams onwards and upwards.
Struggling or mediocrity are no longer going to be acceptable.
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
And apparently on her way to Arsenal.
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
And apparently on her way to Arsenal.
Sounds about right.
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"Apparently", according to The S*n based on praise from the Arsenal manager who is leaving the club. It would be nice if we could have one thread where fans aren't trying to sell our best players!
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
She's massive here. No mention of the men's match whatsoever on the sports news this morning, just a slot about Iwabuchi.
Good to hear!! How is the modelling career btw ? ;)
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Casey Stoney now available having left Man Utd.......
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Casey Stoney now available having left Man Utd.......
If (big 'if') she joined it would certainly be a statement of intent and should help with player recruitment.
You would have to assume (if it happens) that she would only get involved if she is convinced of the commitment and planned investment - as was the case when putting together a squad for Man U.
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Sounds like she is going to Arsenal or America.
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If we are talking signings, Cuthbert from Chelsea, please. Doesn't seem to start every game, might be gettable, and I like Scottish players. Even if she is a "Rangers" fan.
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Casey Stoney now available having left Man Utd.......
If (big 'if') she joined it would certainly be a statement of intent and should help with player recruitment.
You would have to assume (if it happens) that she would only get involved if she is convinced of the commitment and planned investment - as was the case when putting together a squad for Man U.
I wonder if we have sold her a proper project to build something again?
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Apparently she left because of the low profile given by the club, facilities not up to her standards and level of investment. It would be different here I think.
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Think it’s the Telegraph that are saying that Eni Aluko will leave soon also as she has one of the top jobs in the women’s game
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
She's massive here. No mention of the men's match whatsoever on the sports news this morning, just a slot about Iwabuchi.
Good to hear!! How is the modelling career btw ? ;)
Haha. shhhhhhhhhh! Hello mate, I hope things are going ok over there?
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Do the ladies team use Bodymoor Heath as their main training ground?
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Yes, or at least they will now that it has been redeveloped.
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Carla Ward has resigned.
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Can't say I blame her.
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They seem to think on SHA that Carla Ward is heading to us which is obviously going down well with them.
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
And apparently on her way to Arsenal.
"Apparently", according to The S*n based on praise from the Arsenal manager who is leaving the club. It would be nice if we could have one thread where fans aren't trying to sell our best players!
Joe Montemurro confirms Arsenal close to Mana Iwabuchi deal (https://arseblog.news/2021/05/joe-montemurro-confirms-arsenal-close-to-mana-iwabuchi-deal/)
That's annoying.
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That would be hugely shit. Not just because we would be losing our best player but because it would mean The Sun were right. ☹
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Eni Aluko leaving Villa for a role in US Women's Soccer:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/Eniola-Aluko-departs-Aston-Villa-Women/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/Eniola-Aluko-departs-Aston-Villa-Women/)
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
And apparently on her way to Arsenal.
"Apparently", according to The S*n based on praise from the Arsenal manager who is leaving the club. It would be nice if we could have one thread where fans aren't trying to sell our best players!
Joe Montemurro confirms Arsenal close to Mana Iwabuchi deal (https://arseblog.news/2021/05/joe-montemurro-confirms-arsenal-close-to-mana-iwabuchi-deal/)
That's annoying.
How long was the contract that she signed?
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Don't know. This is the piece from when she signed last Christmas time. Not even a hint https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2020/december/Mana-Iwabuchi-signs-for-Villa-Women-/
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Iwabuchi rocks, she should be our Grealish.
And apparently on her way to Arsenal.
"Apparently", according to The S*n based on praise from the Arsenal manager who is leaving the club. It would be nice if we could have one thread where fans aren't trying to sell our best players!
Joe Montemurro confirms Arsenal close to Mana Iwabuchi deal (https://arseblog.news/2021/05/joe-montemurro-confirms-arsenal-close-to-mana-iwabuchi-deal/)
That's annoying.
How long was the contract that she signed?
A traitor!
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I wonder if she just signed until the end of the season?
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Needed some competitive game time against decent opposition before the Olympics, maybe?
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Needed some competitive game time against decent opposition before the Olympics, maybe?
You could be right, though they might end up being cancelled, if the rumours are to be believed.
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Surely she was getting competitive football already? It was good enough for before every other major tournament she's played at. Hope we fight tooth and nail to keep her and these rumours are just wishful thinking by Arsenal fans.
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Just seen seven players let go and all of the management went earlier - is there something going on or just normal end of year churn?
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Iwabuchi is one of them 😭
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Just seen seven players let go and all of the management went earlier - is there something going on or just normal end of year churn?
I think they were all out of contract.
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Oh dear that won't go down very well at Small Heath Carla Ward who resigned as manager of Small Heath las week is going to become the new Villa manager She has seen the light lol
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(https://i.ibb.co/PcFZRLR/Carla-Ward.png) (https://ibb.co/PcFZRLR)
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Hmmm, is she any good? They finished below our women didn’t they.
Here’s me sitting hoping we are going big time for the Man U coach who has just quit, and ending up with a coach from the rags...sigh.
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Tbf she was fire fighting all season. She is a very good coach.
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Welcome to a big club and good luck, Carla. 🙂
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Bet she comes with all the good wishes from those on Small Time Alliance
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Oh dear that won't go down very well at Small Heath Carla Ward who resigned as manager of Small Heath las week is going to become the new Villa manager She has seen the light lol
As I mentioned last week they weren't exactly thrilled at the prospect on SHA and some of them are quite old there.
It’s reminiscent of what they did in the 1880s. Just buy all the local talent to cripple any local opposition. They’ve done it with their cafe my as well, basically dismantling the Albion one as well as the whole Louie Barry thing. Morally repellent.
We must be buying up all the premium coffee beans in the Midlands as well.
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It does make me wonder if our recruitment at staff level goes beyond the West Midlands.
Hopefully better than the last Blues coach to cross the divide.
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i do not know if she is a good coach or not but everyone in womens football speaks highly of her .In her last Small Heath match she had just one sub which was a goalkeeper ,so it is no great surprise she resigned and there seems every chance there will not even be a Small Heath womens team next season
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i do not know if she is a good coach or not but everyone in womens football speaks highly of her .In her last Small Heath match she had just one sub which was a goalkeeper ,so it is no great surprise she resigned and there seems every chance there will not even be a Small Heath womens team next season
One word taken out of that last sentence and it would be perfect.
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And Iwabuchi goes to Arsenal after 6 months with us.
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Christian Purslow said that the target for the women's team is the same as the men's: year on year progress. I hope that the new Manager gets well backed as we've already lost our best player.
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Iwabuchi gone. I'm gutted. Was she just using us?
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Yes, yes she was.
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And Iwabuchi goes to Arsenal after 6 months with us.
She's dead to me!
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And Iwabuchi goes to Arsenal after 6 months with us.
Was her deal with us only until the end of the season?
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Yes, yes she was.
well i feel dirty
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Yes, yes she was.
well i feel dirty
Let's hope for a little Joe Bryan style justice.
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Mana Iwabuchi: Arsenal sign Japan forward after Aston Villa exit - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57253153
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Hopefully we sign more players of her quality and don't just give them a six month contract, in future.
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Shania Hayles makes her Jamaica debut, against Nigeria.