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Title: Press-ing along
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 05, 2020, 01:55:33 AM
Bonus edition.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2020/08/aston-villa-and-the-final-analysis/
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: four fornicholl on August 05, 2020, 07:31:52 AM
I can see it... wahay.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Scratchins on August 05, 2020, 08:45:23 AM
Excellent Dave, made me excited for the new season
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Proposition Joe on August 05, 2020, 08:55:49 AM
Top read, Dave. I said as well several times during the season that the opening match vs Spurs really set the template for our season, as we were throwing away good starts in match after match.

Weirdly, when I read Chester, Elphick, Adomah and Kodjia I got a pang of fond nostalgia. I guess I didn't mind the time in the Championship as much as I thought.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: eamonn on August 05, 2020, 09:18:37 AM
Best season summation ever !
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: chrisw1 on August 05, 2020, 09:19:37 AM
I can see it... wahay.
Yep, it worked.  Nice summary Dave.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 05, 2020, 10:35:00 AM
I can see it... wahay.

Always an advantage, I feel.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Baldy on August 05, 2020, 11:07:02 AM
Spot on, as always Dave.  :)
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: RichardBatchelor on August 05, 2020, 11:18:54 AM
Yes to Benteke AS LONG AS two others are brought in. I love the bloke and would love to see it work, but my head says he's a busted flush. I want to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Drummond on August 05, 2020, 11:30:05 AM
I'd be tempted with Benteke if the crowds were back. Otherwise it's a no from me.

I still don't agree with the season resuming, even though we did well out of it. However, I'm looking forward to next season. I think we've seen enough good things to feel optimistic.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Legion on August 05, 2020, 09:47:46 PM
No to Benteke. He is a shadow of his former self.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Legion on August 05, 2020, 09:52:06 PM
Definitely yes to Abraham. Would like to see Tuanzebe back, as well.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: rougegorge on August 05, 2020, 10:08:36 PM
No to Benteke. He is a shadow of his former self.
I agree and I think we should be looking to build without loanees if possible.

Loans are almost essential rather than short-sighted in order to get out of the Championship. We used it to good effect and Leeds, Albion and Fulham have all done likewise. However, we may need to be more progressive now.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 05, 2020, 10:19:21 PM
I'd take that one that Liverpool loaned to Swansea on loan. Forgotten his name, but he's good. Not as the main man but an option off the bench would be a much better option than we have presently.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Steve67 on August 05, 2020, 10:43:42 PM
The last sentence is key.  We have some momentum and optimism heading into next season thanks to the way we ended last season.  The right buys, particularly someone who can kick people, and we might just not struggle again.  I think the owners will expect more of Dean next season and will back him to succeed.  Some shrewd purchases will be needed as well as the odd gamble.  Great summary Dave.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Legion on August 05, 2020, 10:48:22 PM
I'd also like to see some of the better U23s being given a chance in the League Cup or on the bench for a Premier League fixture, such as Archer, Barry, Vassilev and Ramsey. Or a few more loans out for experience as, say, Grealish was to Notts County. What's the point in having an academy unless we are utilising the better prospects effectively?
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: darren woolley on August 06, 2020, 02:06:59 PM
I love it Dave brilliant read.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 06, 2020, 02:48:38 PM
I love it Dave brilliant read.

If you're happy I'm happy Daz.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Pat Mustard on August 06, 2020, 03:12:30 PM
I'd also like to see some of the better U23s being given a chance in the League Cup or on the bench for a Premier League fixture, such as Archer, Barry, Vassilev and Ramsey. Or a few more loans out for experience as, say, Grealish was to Notts County. What's the point in having an academy unless we are utilising the better prospects effectively?

I wouldn't be surprised if there is no League Cup this year - no dates for it have been announced and the EFL season is already about 6 or 7 weeks shorter than last year's was planned to be, so I can't see how it is going to fit in.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 06, 2020, 03:42:02 PM
Great read Dave, capturing the crucial elements of a strange season.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 06, 2020, 03:44:52 PM
I'd also like to see some of the better U23s being given a chance in the League Cup or on the bench for a Premier League fixture, such as Archer, Barry, Vassilev and Ramsey. Or a few more loans out for experience as, say, Grealish was to Notts County. What's the point in having an academy unless we are utilising the better prospects effectively?

I wouldn't be surprised if there is no League Cup this year - no dates for it have been announced and the EFL season is already about 6 or 7 weeks shorter than last year's was planned to be, so I can't see how it is going to fit in.

While it's sponsored, it'll be played.
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: Pat Mustard on August 06, 2020, 04:34:07 PM
I'd also like to see some of the better U23s being given a chance in the League Cup or on the bench for a Premier League fixture, such as Archer, Barry, Vassilev and Ramsey. Or a few more loans out for experience as, say, Grealish was to Notts County. What's the point in having an academy unless we are utilising the better prospects effectively?

I wouldn't be surprised if there is no League Cup this year - no dates for it have been announced and the EFL season is already about 6 or 7 weeks shorter than last year's was planned to be, so I can't see how it is going to fit in.

While it's sponsored, it'll be played.

They will need to get a move on with organising it, there is nothing about dates on the EFLs website yet.  If it does go ahead what is the betting that teams in Europe will either be allowed to drop out or just enter their U23s?  As long as there is still a place in Europe at the end of it then it might be an opportunity for us, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is dropped as a compromise.

It was one of the reasons I was really reticent about the restart, aside from health concerns.  Last season was compromised, this season will be compromised and with the Qatar World Cup so will the one after - something will give, and you can guarantee it won't be something that ends up affecting the elite clubs.

Sorry, it was a great read as well, got sidetracked on this!
Title: Re: Press-ing along
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 06, 2020, 04:50:44 PM
I reckon entry will still be compulsory (got to keep the sponsors happy) but we'll see more Liverpool XIs fielded.
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