Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on August 04, 2020, 09:48:23 PM
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The world's greatest football history writer writes.
https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=61154.0
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The only thing I knew about Brentford when I was growing up was that Harvey Moon used to talk about them in 'Shine On Harvey Moon'.
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Well that's a few million off Brentford's squad value. Not sure if I'd be too keen on signing any of them - certainly not for for sums previously quoted.
Top players perform when it matters.
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Little bit harsh on Brentford.
8 on the spin not far off our run, play great football and Dean was a factor in this ethos - not bottlers - maybe not right winning mentality in the “big” games ultimately.
Can see them pissing the league next season if they keep main players.
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I’d swap Taylor for Henry.
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I’d swap Taylor for Henry.
I sure every Villa fan would and every Brentford fan wouldn't.
I like this game though. I'd also swap Jota for Benrahma and Hogan for Watkins. Maybe Henri Lansbury Mbeumo. There, sorted.
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I’d swap Taylor for Henry.
I sure every Villa fan would and every Brentford fan wouldn't.
I like this game though. I'd also swap Jota for Benrahma and Hogan for Watkins. Maybe Henri Lansbury Mbeumo. There, sorted.
I didn’t mean swap directly so much as replace Taylor with him.
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I’d swap Taylor for Henry.
I sure every Villa fan would and every Brentford fan wouldn't.
I like this game though. I'd also swap Jota for Benrahma and Hogan for Watkins. Maybe Henri Lansbury Mbeumo. There, sorted.
I didn’t mean swap directly so much as replace Taylor with him.
I know, I was just mucking about. Like last season there will be a few of their players in demand and it will be interesting to see how many they let go and if we get any. There's certainly a few who seem like they would improve our squad. I'm still pretty convinced Benrahma and Watkins will do ok in the PL, whether the pair are worth c£50m is another matter.
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I’d swap Taylor for Henry.
I sure every Villa fan would and every Brentford fan wouldn't.
I like this game though. I'd also swap Jota for Benrahma and Hogan for Watkins. Maybe Henri Lansbury Mbeumo. There, sorted.
I didn’t mean swap directly so much as replace Taylor with him.
I know, I was just mucking about. Like last season there will be a few of their players in demand and it will be interesting to see how many they let go and if we get any. There's certainly a few who seem like they would improve our squad. I'm still pretty convinced Benrahma and Watkins will do ok in the PL, whether the pair are worth c£50m is another matter.
It could be a case of playing with better players, a bigger club inspiring them etc would bring a better standard from both players. My concern would be that they had two big games to take advantage of Albion slipping up, along with a play off final and all three games neither player stepped up.
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Yes they seemed to freeze. But all great players have had poor games and there's plenty of people who have written Jack off in the past, some fans of other clubs still do. I imagine if we'd watched them week in week out we'd be more confident.
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They did bottle the run in and should have pipped Albion. The goals dried up.
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I’ve only been to see them once. My QPR supporting mate’s dad supports them. It was v Tranmere at Griffin Park early 90’s. Most one-sided 0-0 I’ve ever seen I think. Tranmere battered them but just couldn’t score.
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As a Fulham fan I probably know more brentford than you boys, about 30 years ago our local derbies were brentford, Barnet and Leyton orient, before al fayed came into rescue us, I thing if brentford had won last night they would have probably been the new Bournemouth, they probably do now what they do best, sell one or two of there big guns recruit again from lower leagues and unknown foreign players that are probably the next season’s Watkins and Benrahma, I do think think that they probably they’ve blown there best chance ever,
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Rod Stewart had a trial with them in 1960 but was not taken on and Bradley Walsh was a professional with them, but never made the first team.
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It'll be easier to get tickets when we play them in the cup at some point than it would have been in the Premier League.
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As a Fulham fan I probably know more brentford than you boys, about 30 years ago our local derbies were brentford, Barnet and Leyton orient, before al fayed came into rescue us, I thing if brentford had won last night they would have probably been the new Bournemouth, they probably do now what they do best, sell one or two of there big guns recruit again from lower leagues and unknown foreign players that are probably the next season’s Watkins and Benrahma, I do think think that they probably they’ve blown there best chance ever,
A Fulham fan I know down here says you can tell how well Fulham are doing by the team he dislikes the most. At various points in the last 20 years it has been Chelsea, QPR and Brentford. Deep down, he admits it is always Chelsea. Bizarrely he also hates Gillingham.
As an aside, re a comment in the original article in this thread, I was told that Brentford are not called the Bees because of their old yellow and black kit but instead it was related to some fans or journalists calling them B or the B's. I'll ask him next time I see him.
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"The club's nickname, "The Bees" was coined around 1893 by students from the Borough Road College who started attending matches and whose rallying cry, "Buck up Bs" was taken by spectators as "Buck up Bees." This was taken up by the local press and within a short time, the name had stuck."
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Brentford/Brentford.htm
They certainly don't ever seem to have played in any apian colours.
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I wonder if there was ever any awareness of the Brentford nickname when the Birmingham Speedway Team became established at Perry Barr. Colours red and yellow. The Birmingham Bs. Great times watching Dougie Warren. Straight from Villa Park to the Saturday Speedway.
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As a Fulham fan I probably know more brentford than you boys, about 30 years ago our local derbies were brentford, Barnet and Leyton orient, before al fayed came into rescue us, I thing if brentford had won last night they would have probably been the new Bournemouth, they probably do now what they do best, sell one or two of there big guns recruit again from lower leagues and unknown foreign players that are probably the next season’s Watkins and Benrahma, I do think think that they probably they’ve blown there best chance ever,
A Fulham fan I know down here says you can tell how well Fulham are doing by the team he dislikes the most. At various points in the last 20 years it has been Chelsea, QPR and Brentford. Deep down, he admits it is always Chelsea. Bizarrely he also hates Gillingham.
As an aside, re a comment in the original article in this thread, I was told that Brentford are not called the Bees because of their old yellow and black kit but instead it was related to some fans or journalists calling them B or the B's. I'll ask him next time I see him.
i think the reason your mate hates Gillingham because about 25 years ago a Fulham fan was murdered in Gillingham at a game
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"The club's nickname, "The Bees" was coined around 1893 by students from the Borough Road College who started attending matches and whose rallying cry, "Buck up Bs" was taken by spectators as "Buck up Bees." This was taken up by the local press and within a short time, the name had stuck."
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Brentford/Brentford.htm
They certainly don't ever seem to have played in any apian colours.
Cheers cd.
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As a Fulham fan I probably know more brentford than you boys, about 30 years ago our local derbies were brentford, Barnet and Leyton orient, before al fayed came into rescue us, I thing if brentford had won last night they would have probably been the new Bournemouth, they probably do now what they do best, sell one or two of there big guns recruit again from lower leagues and unknown foreign players that are probably the next season’s Watkins and Benrahma, I do think think that they probably they’ve blown there best chance ever,
A Fulham fan I know down here says you can tell how well Fulham are doing by the team he dislikes the most. At various points in the last 20 years it has been Chelsea, QPR and Brentford. Deep down, he admits it is always Chelsea. Bizarrely he also hates Gillingham.
As an aside, re a comment in the original article in this thread, I was told that Brentford are not called the Bees because of their old yellow and black kit but instead it was related to some fans or journalists calling them B or the B's. I'll ask him next time I see him.
i think the reason your mate hates Gillingham because about 25 years ago a Fulham fan was murdered in Gillingham at a game
Cheers Franky. That rings a very vague bell.
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Fair to say you know more about Brentfird than me Franky. I have never met one in my life (although I did like 'People Just Nothing).
Thought your defence kept them pretty quiet until the last few minutes. In particular, it is the worst I've seen Benrahma play.
Onomah seems to have turned into a much improved player with you lot.
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"murdered" is a bit strong imo.
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I wonder if there was ever any awareness of the Brentford nickname when the Birmingham Speedway Team became established at Perry Barr. Colours red and yellow. The Birmingham Bs. Great times watching Dougie Warren. Straight from Villa Park to the Saturday Speedway.
wasnt it Cov Bees in the speedway Brian? Went to see them a few times when they had Ole Olsen. Stock car racing at half time too. Ace!
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You are quite right robbo. My bad. Birmingham speedway at Perry Barr morphed into Birmingham Brummies. The team at Hall Green dog track was the Birmingham Bulldogs. Lots of letter Bs. Coventry were the Bees and it was Graham Warren not Dougie.
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funny looking back, my best mate’s dad used to take us to Villa and the speedway. Top fella, big Steve.