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Title: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: olaftab on August 02, 2020, 01:17:27 PM
So the new season starts on 12 September. I read somewhere that fixtures may not be released till 21 August just 3 weeks before the first game day.
Has anybody heard/know anything different?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: mr underhill on August 02, 2020, 01:18:43 PM
no but I'm just relieved that there is no Tuesday night affair with Barnsley
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 02, 2020, 01:21:52 PM
Starts September 12th, but Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Wolves could start later as the league wants them to have a thirty day break from their last European game. So hopefully we won't play any of them and have a backlog. Fixtures due to be announced on or by 21st August. Will then, presumably, all be moved around for telly as I expect they'll carry on televising every game until crowds are allowed back in.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Nev on August 02, 2020, 01:33:15 PM
Starts September 12th, but Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Wolves could start later as the league wants them to have a thirty day break from their last European game. So hopefully we won't play any of them and have a backlog. Fixtures due to be announced on or by 21st August. Will then, presumably, all be moved around for telly as I expect they'll carry on televising every game until crowds are allowed back in.

I hope they do show all the games, I was too frit to watch at the back end of last season.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 02, 2020, 04:11:43 PM
Could be a really good chance to win the league cup next season. I think most of the top 6/7 will put out similar teams to what Liverpool did v us as they'll have loads of european games in October and November. With the Arsenal win yesterday Spurs have to play three just to get in europa league group stages apparently.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: eamonn on August 02, 2020, 04:19:13 PM
Wouldnt be surprised if they drop the League Cup in the next few weeks blaming congestion.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 02, 2020, 04:22:32 PM
Wouldnt be surprised if they drop the League Cup in the next few weeks blaming congestion.

There's still a will to play it with the projected fixture list. Let's not forget teams in europe come in later rounds anyway but I suspect teams will be given option of playing under 21 teams in as probably a couple of the rounds will be scheduled the same wages as european fixtures.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: olaftab on August 02, 2020, 08:30:26 PM
Wouldnt be surprised if they drop the League Cup in the next few weeks blaming congestion.
Or give an option to clubs in European  competitions to opt out?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 02, 2020, 08:58:14 PM
What a hideous idea.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 02, 2020, 09:49:45 PM
Something will have to give. That's the folly of trying to play a full 9 month season when there's only now eight months to do it (and that's if there is no more disruption from covid).

Of course Uefa/Fifa could've offered to help by dropping one of the four international breaks next season but no such luck there.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2020, 11:44:41 PM
Well almost there. 9am Thursday morning.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2020, 12:14:26 AM
I'll go for something bland like Burnley H

So much better than it being Cardiff A or Barnsley H
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 20, 2020, 12:40:33 AM
I'll go for something bland like..

Manchester's has beens at the Theatre of Plastic Tossers. Knowing our luck we'll get Man City away.
Honestly, a couple of decent signings, I fear nobody.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: eamonn on August 20, 2020, 03:12:41 AM
The Manchester clubs and Wolves (Chelsea too?) get a 30 day break from their last game so whoever draws them on the first day may have to wait to play them.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Rotterdam on August 20, 2020, 07:36:13 AM
Palace at home please.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 20, 2020, 08:13:01 AM
Arsenal at home. 
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: algy on August 20, 2020, 08:27:41 AM
Could be a really good chance to win the league cup next season. I think most of the top 6/7 will put out similar teams to what Liverpool did v us as they'll have loads of european games in October and November. With the Arsenal win yesterday Spurs have to play three just to get in europa league group stages apparently.
Yeah, weirdly i was thinking the same thing this morning. I think they'll still play it, but there's no danger of clubs competing in Europe putting out anything like full strength sides. It'll still be played, though. I'm confident of that, even though I've nothing to base my confidence on.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 20, 2020, 08:32:41 AM
I reckon we'll get Fulham away. It's written in the stars.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Steve67 on August 20, 2020, 08:34:06 AM
Leeds away. Not in front of their lively and vociferous and quite lovely fans!
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: JD on August 20, 2020, 08:35:35 AM
Southampton at home.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2020, 08:39:40 AM
Chelsea away.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Dr Butler on August 20, 2020, 08:42:55 AM
Dirty Leeds at Home

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: dicedlam on August 20, 2020, 08:43:41 AM
Burnley at home.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Villa Lew on August 20, 2020, 08:48:18 AM
Arsenal at home
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Dave P on August 20, 2020, 08:56:59 AM
Everton home
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Axl Rose on August 20, 2020, 09:00:20 AM
Man City away
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Dave P on August 20, 2020, 09:00:46 AM
BREAKING: It's Man City away.

Gets it out the way I suppose!
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: mr-villa on August 20, 2020, 09:01:55 AM
Posponed
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Lsvilla on August 20, 2020, 09:02:02 AM
BREAKING: It's Man City away.

Gets it out the way I suppose!
Except it doesn’t
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Dave P on August 20, 2020, 09:02:08 AM
Liverpool v Leeds on the opening day is going to be one big Sky wankfest.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Axl Rose on August 20, 2020, 09:02:18 AM
Man City start the season a bit later also, no?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 20, 2020, 09:02:48 AM
Away to Citeh but postponed.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 20, 2020, 09:03:28 AM
Ffs.  Bloody typical.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: WarszaVillan on August 20, 2020, 09:04:01 AM
Tough end of the season.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 20, 2020, 09:04:20 AM
I hope we’re safe by 24 April! 😮
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 20, 2020, 09:04:40 AM
Jesus fucking Christ.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Ads on August 20, 2020, 09:06:56 AM
Chance to relegate the Stripey Filth in April.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 20, 2020, 09:07:24 AM
That's both our men and women playing Man City first. What are the odds of that happening, hm?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Lsvilla on August 20, 2020, 09:07:37 AM
An extra week to integrate all the new signings. And a home game to start - albeit probably BCD.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Jaffa on August 20, 2020, 09:10:11 AM
 Extra time to get the holiday flab off and more time to embed all our new players!!  8)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 20, 2020, 09:12:15 AM
Sky have already invented the “Pennines Derby” And you wonder why everyone hates them?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 20, 2020, 09:17:16 AM
There doesn’t seem to be a run of ‘winnable’ fixtures there.  Tough start and a tough end as well.  We need signings!
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: TaxDodger on August 20, 2020, 09:19:49 AM
If I was able to go every week I'd be annoyed at some of those dates.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Jockey Randall on August 20, 2020, 09:19:58 AM
What strikes me most is the home fixtures before the end of the year. Need to make sure we have a few points on the board by January.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Dave P on August 20, 2020, 09:23:36 AM
There doesn’t seem to be a run of ‘winnable’ fixtures there.  Tough start and a tough end as well.  We need signings!

Mid Jan - Feb if anything
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 20, 2020, 09:24:43 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2020, 09:28:20 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Spurs are not the team they were though apparently.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 20, 2020, 09:29:23 AM
Extra time to get the holiday flab off and more time to embed all our new players!!  8)

That's the way I see it plus we might play Citeh in one of their busier spells. Tough run-in will make winning the league a bit trickier than anticipated.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 20, 2020, 09:32:07 AM
Sky have already invented the “Pennines Derby” And you wonder why everyone hates them?

Liverpool: situated on an estuary and with the flat lands of west Lancashire and Cheshire to the north and the east.  The nearest prominence that could reasonably be considered as part of the Pennines is probably Rivington Pike some 25 miles east as the liver bird flies. 

Still, not like Sky to let England's physical geography get in the way of hyping a Premier League match.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 20, 2020, 09:33:06 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Yep. It's going to be real scrap between the four of us for a Champions League place...
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Villa Lew on August 20, 2020, 09:34:06 AM
See we've got Wolves away on 12 December, then a week later we're away to Albion, with a midweek home game against Burnley in between.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: LeeB on August 20, 2020, 09:35:49 AM
I hope we’re safe by 24 April! 😮

You say that, but I'm starting to think the best time to play the big boys is either right at the start, before they've got going, or right at the end when they're on the beach.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: LeeB on August 20, 2020, 09:36:13 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Spurs are not the team they were though apparently.

Ha!
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 20, 2020, 09:38:14 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Spurs are not the team they were though apparently.

Ha!

They aren't, which anyone can see. And yet we still failed to pick up a single point from them last year, eh?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Ads on August 20, 2020, 09:38:21 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Hopefully we have top 4 buttoned up by then, given that run of six pointers.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 20, 2020, 09:41:14 AM
We thought last years run in was bad though.  Got to play them all at some point!
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Villa Lew on August 20, 2020, 09:46:07 AM
No reason why we can't start with 6 points from the first 2 games, before we meet Liverpool. Let's get the points on the board.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: LeeB on August 20, 2020, 09:46:13 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Spurs are not the team they were though apparently.

Ha!

They aren't, which anyone can see. And yet we still failed to pick up a single point from them last year, eh?

We didn't off Bournemouth either, for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2020, 09:48:32 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Spurs are not the team they were though apparently.

Ha!

They aren't, which anyone can see. And yet we still failed to pick up a single point from them last year, eh?

But we did against Arsenal and Man Utd, so it wasn't all bad, eh?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Clampy on August 20, 2020, 09:51:48 AM
As the first 6 games go, it could have been a lot worse. Definitely some winnable games there.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 20, 2020, 09:52:09 AM
Oh blimey ATAL is back!  Did you not take heed of my positivity last season?!
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 20, 2020, 09:52:33 AM
Need to start with some home wins, very tough middle and end.

In other news 9 home games from 2nd February so clearly that's when premier league are gambling society will be close to back to normal.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 20, 2020, 10:05:06 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Spurs are not the team they were though apparently.

Ha!

They aren't, which anyone can see. And yet we still failed to pick up a single point from them last year, eh?

But we did against Arsenal and Man Utd, so it wasn't all bad, eh?

Never said it was 'all' bad, you made a point of referencing my opinion of Spurs so I answered it.

Anyway, as I was saying, the run-in is difficult for us. Hopefully we'll have the legs to be able to handle Liverpool, City, United, Spurs and Chelsea all within 6 week period.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Billy Walker on August 20, 2020, 10:05:19 AM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal


Not necessarily.  Depending on how the season pans out for ourselves and those clubs, that run-in might see us reclaim our berth in the top six.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: rob_bridge on August 20, 2020, 10:09:47 AM
Can't get into too much of a frenzy with fixtures- everyone plays each other twice and as demonstrated this season we lost twice to Bournemouth who weren't very good.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: maidstonevillain on August 20, 2020, 10:14:10 AM
I hope we’re safe by 24 April! 😮

I hope we are pretty safe by Christmas. I get distinctly harder thereafter.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 20, 2020, 10:17:30 AM
I hope we’re safe by 24 April! 😮

I hope we are pretty safe by Christmas. I get distinctly harder thereafter.
Too much information ;)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Chris Smith on August 20, 2020, 10:18:22 AM
I hope we’re safe by 24 April! 😮

I hope we are pretty safe by Christmas. I get distinctly harder thereafter.
Too much information ;)

Is Santa delivering Viagra?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 20, 2020, 10:18:47 AM
I hope we’re safe by 24 April! 😮

My Birthday haha.

Traditionally we've always done pretty well with matches around that date, can remember a couple of wins against SHA around that time and we beat Palace on the 26th April last season.

Certainly would be good to already be on 40 points and safe by the time we play the last 5 games though.

You never know what teams will be doing at that time, in europe or on the beach. Arsenal as last home game looked a nightmare last August but that turned out o.k for us.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: LeeB on August 20, 2020, 10:31:59 AM
I hope we’re safe by 24 April! 😮

I hope we are pretty safe by Christmas. I get distinctly harder thereafter.

Fnarr, fnarr.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: themossman on August 20, 2020, 10:36:10 AM
I wonder how big an impact fixture timing actually has on points.

I guess this season might be different, in that later home games could have a significantly higher probability of a win.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: eamonn on August 20, 2020, 10:44:39 AM
The Manchester clubs and Wolves (Chelsea too?) get a 30 day break from their last game so whoever draws them on the first day may have to wait to play them.

I feel proud. I was half asleep last night when I typed this.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: itbrvilla on August 20, 2020, 10:44:59 AM
Interesting that they keep the 'big' teams apart.  Probably to help them all get off to a winning start to give them momentum for super Sunday.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Richard E on August 20, 2020, 10:47:42 AM
We need to have the title wrapped up before those last few games so that the academy lads can get some experience of playing against the bigger sides.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: exigo on August 20, 2020, 11:19:47 AM
The extra week's pre-season might be handy for us. The transfer merry-go-round still hasn't kicked in, so having the Man City game postponed could work in our favour with more training and integration.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Border villan on August 20, 2020, 11:35:09 AM
Downloaded the fixtures from Pravda on to my iPad and now have each fixture listed twice. Better than last season when they were listed on two following weeks.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2020, 12:05:43 PM
Downloaded the fixtures from Pravda on to my iPad and now have each fixture listed twice. Better than last season when they were listed on two following weeks.

Same here. Just go into your calendar settings at the bottom and uncheck one of them. Appears it automatically updated the download from last year without having to sync this time.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2020, 12:07:16 PM
An extra week to get in shape, add a player or two, then Sheff Utd at home followed by Fulham. Seems good to me. We have to play everyone anyway. Defend better, score a few more. Easy
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: cdward on August 20, 2020, 12:10:30 PM
I hope we’re safe by 24 April! 😮

I hope we are pretty safe by Christmas. I get distinctly harder thereafter.
MMA training starting in 2021?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: darren woolley on August 20, 2020, 12:22:44 PM
I'm pleased the fixtures are out but I just wonder when we can see them play.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Border villan on August 20, 2020, 12:28:22 PM
Downloaded the fixtures from Pravda on to my iPad and now have each fixture listed twice. Better than last season when they were listed on two following weeks.

Same here. Just go into your calendar settings at the bottom and uncheck one of them. Appears it automatically updated the download from last year without having to sync this time.

Thanks for that, all sorted.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 20, 2020, 12:31:11 PM
I'm pleased the fixtures are out but I just wonder when we can see them play.

Didn’t the government mention something about fans being allowed in from October? I suppose it also depends on how many fans can go to a game and then everyone’s level of comfort attending large crowd events.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: hilts_coolerking on August 20, 2020, 12:39:10 PM
Run in's a bit of a bitch.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: in exile on August 20, 2020, 12:55:07 PM
Run in's a bit of a bitch.
It is indeed.
We need to hope/believe we will be safe by then I guess.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: olaftab on August 20, 2020, 12:55:54 PM
Yanited, Spurs and Chelsea in the final five... absolutely brutal
Hopefully we have top 4 buttoned up by then, given that run of six pointers.
6 pointers versus Chelscum and manure for top 4 and brilliant chance t relegate spurs is the way I see it.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Duncan Shaw on August 20, 2020, 01:27:34 PM
I was hoping Fulham away would be in the spring with hopefully fans allowed back in so could have gone along to it as usual (and seen us lose!!!)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on August 20, 2020, 01:37:23 PM
I'm pleased the fixtures are out but I just wonder when we can see them play.

Didn’t the government mention something about fans being allowed in from October? I suppose it also depends on how many fans can go to a game and then everyone’s level of comfort attending large crowd events.

Yes. There will also have to be a test event at each venue prior to fans returning for a PL game. This is likely to be a League Cup game so it’s possible that some fans may attend a game in September. 
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 20, 2020, 01:37:31 PM
I see no benefit to us to have a game in hand already - and that being away to Citeh
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: eamonn on August 20, 2020, 01:41:25 PM
There is talk that we would play Citeh the midweek after the first weekend which would be a bit shiz as we would have less time than Sheffield United to prepare for our game with them the following weekend.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: The Edge on August 20, 2020, 01:44:17 PM
I'm pleased the fixtures are out but I just wonder when we can see them play.

Didn’t the government mention something about fans being allowed in from October? I suppose it also depends on how many fans can go to a game and then everyone’s level of comfort attending large crowd events.
Talksport have been saying that 30% of capacity will be allowed in by October.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Villafirst on August 20, 2020, 01:50:56 PM
When was the last home game on the opening day of the season?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 20, 2020, 01:59:30 PM
When was the last home game on the opening day of the season?

Hull 17/18
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 20, 2020, 02:12:44 PM
I'm pleased the fixtures are out but I just wonder when we can see them play.

Didn’t the government mention something about fans being allowed in from October? I suppose it also depends on how many fans can go to a game and then everyone’s level of comfort attending large crowd events.
Talksport have been saying that 30% of capacity will be allowed in by October.

Still can't see it. Maybe if it was possible to teleport everybody to their seat from 200 yards away. Plus with people huffing and puffing up stairs, can't see the upper levels being used. How do we get out at the end, one at a time? And social distancing on our concourses? Hahahahahaaaa.

I'm certainly not saying it won't happen, but I'm struggling to see how they'll be able to present any kind of pretence that they're not making exceptions for the PL that don't apply to other aspects of societal life.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 20, 2020, 02:26:21 PM
I'm pleased the fixtures are out but I just wonder when we can see them play.

Didn’t the government mention something about fans being allowed in from October? I suppose it also depends on how many fans can go to a game and then everyone’s level of comfort attending large crowd events.
Talksport have been saying that 30% of capacity will be allowed in by October.

Still can't see it. Maybe if it was possible to teleport everybody to their seat from 200 yards away. Plus with people huffing and puffing up stairs, can't see the upper levels being used. How do we get out at the end, one at a time? And social distancing on our concourses? Hahahahahaaaa.

I'm certainly not saying it won't happen, but I'm struggling to see how they'll be able to present any kind of pretence that they're not making exceptions for the PL that don't apply to other aspects of societal life.

There was something on a podcast yesterday about this. For modern grounds with wide concourses they'd be looking at a max of 30%. For older grounds much less. I guess we'd be looking at 10% to begin with.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 20, 2020, 02:51:47 PM
42k crowds are a year away imo.

Let's just hope perhaps in second part of the season we can at least get 30k + into the ground.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: rob_bridge on August 20, 2020, 02:54:06 PM
Trinity - maybe 30%
Holte - maybe 20%
Other 2 - maybe 10%
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: UK Redsox on August 20, 2020, 05:15:22 PM
I'm hoping that there will be an option to opt-out of the hole season, with a guarantee to get my seat back for 2021-22.

Even at a greatly reduced capacity, I don't trust people to keep the required distances
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Chris Smith on August 20, 2020, 05:22:27 PM
I'm hoping that there will be an option to opt-out of the hole season, with a guarantee to get my seat back for 2021-22.

Even at a greatly reduced capacity, I don't trust people to keep the required distances

Same here.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 20, 2020, 05:59:02 PM
I'm hoping that there will be an option to opt-out of the hole season, with a guarantee to get my seat back for 2021-22.

Even at a greatly reduced capacity, I don't trust people to keep the required distances

Same here.

Me neither.

Furthermore, I think there would be an immense amount of other twattish behaviour on show, too.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: john e on August 20, 2020, 07:00:42 PM
don’t forget there was a million posts on here saying the restart could never happen
and if it did it would collapse into chaos, with players and teams self isolating and the season never finishing

as it turned out all premier league fixtures were fulfilled and most of the cup games as well

I was never a null and voider if we stayed up I wanted it to be on merit

I don't know when it will be safe to go back in numbers but it will probably be sooner than people are thinking



Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: rougegorge on August 20, 2020, 07:23:11 PM
Yes, for what it's worth, non league clubs below the National League, can have fans in from this Saturday.

For example, Step 3 clubs like Bromsgrove, Stourbridge, Tamworth could have 300 max and then up to 600 from August 31st.

That's a bit simplistic, as each club will need to work out their own logistics. It should be easier for distancing at such games which would normally attract low crowds.

However, they may well attract a higher number than usual due to the long gap without seeing live matches.

There are a lot of ifs and buts to overcome yet, but it suggests fans could be back sooner than was thought.

Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 20, 2020, 07:49:31 PM
don’t forget there was a million posts on here saying the restart could never happen
and if it did it would collapse into chaos, with players and teams self isolating and the season never finishing

as it turned out all premier league fixtures were fulfilled and most of the cup games as well

I was never a null and voider if we stayed up I wanted it to be on merit

I don't know when it will be safe to go back in numbers but it will probably be sooner than people are thinking





I think there’s probably a difference between what is truly safe and what the government determine is “safe”. But I suspect you’re right in terms of people returning.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 20, 2020, 09:10:53 PM
don’t forget there was a million posts on here saying the restart could never happen
and if it did it would collapse into chaos, with players and teams self isolating and the season never finishing

as it turned out all premier league fixtures were fulfilled and most of the cup games as well

I was never a null and voider if we stayed up I wanted it to be on merit

I don't know when it will be safe to go back in numbers but it will probably be sooner than people are thinking





I think there’s probably a difference between what is truly safe and what the government determine is “safe”. But I suspect you’re right in terms of people returning.
who knows what is safe?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Legion on August 20, 2020, 09:16:53 PM
We need to have the title wrapped up before those last few games so that the academy lads can get some experience of playing against the bigger sides.

Richer, not bigger.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: olaftab on August 20, 2020, 10:00:14 PM
When was the last home game on the opening day of the season?
Hull 17/18
This coming season first game is the home game.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Damo70 on August 20, 2020, 10:37:38 PM
It would be nice if we could pick up six points from those first two games at home to Sheffield United and away to Fulham.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 20, 2020, 10:52:51 PM
It would be nice if we could pick up six points from those first two games at home to Sheffield United and away to Fulham.

Might be helpful if someone made a silly money offer for Egan and/or Fleck. Or is that just us - do other clubs not get their best players picked off them?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: eamonn on August 21, 2020, 12:45:53 AM
Egan and Fleck individually don't get the hearts racing like Duggee and Jack. Maybe they work better in a team of hardworking players and a manager they're scared of upsetting.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Big Ming on August 21, 2020, 08:26:20 AM
As a result of the fixture draw, we are going to be a week behind almost everyone else in gaining match sharpness, until it evens out after a month or so.

Competitive matches are the only way to get match sharp.

Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 21, 2020, 09:49:30 AM
Haven't read through this thread, so not sure if it's already been mentioned, but why the fuck are us and Burnley having to miss week one just because of the Manchester clubs?

Why didn't they just pair us up with Burnley for Week 1 and make the postponed fixture the Manc derby so that only 2 clubs are behind rather than 4?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 21, 2020, 09:52:01 AM
Haven't read through this thread, so not sure if it's already been mentioned, but why the fuck are us and Burnley having to miss week one just because of the Manchester clubs?

Why didn't they just pair us up with Burnley for Week 1 and make the postponed fixture the Manc derby so that only 2 clubs are behind rather than 4?


You change one, you have to change them all.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 21, 2020, 09:57:58 AM
I guess. At least it means we're guaranteed not to be bottom after Week 1. Every cloud eh!   ;)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 21, 2020, 10:45:42 AM
Wolves were asking for them and Chelsea to get the Manchester clubs first up. Chelsea and Wolves actually played Man. United first two games last season.

Would seem very logical but apparently TV didn't want Manchester derby too early in the season.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 21, 2020, 10:58:28 AM
Wolves were asking for them and Chelsea to get the Manchester clubs first up. Chelsea and Wolves actually played Man. United first two games last season.

Would seem very logical but apparently TV didn't want Manchester derby too early in the season.

The TV companies don't see the fixtures until they're compiled.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 21, 2020, 11:05:56 AM
Anyone know HOW the fixtures are compiled? Is it an entirely computer generated thing, just with algorithms to avoid having neighbouring clubs playng at home together or something a little measured?

I mean it can't be coincidence that Liverpool face Leeds at Anfield on the opening weekend? It would be interesting to see how the fixture lists are actually put together.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on August 21, 2020, 11:07:04 AM
Anyone know HOW the fixtures are compiled? Is it an entirely computer generated thing, just with algorithms to avoid having neighbouring clubs playng at home together or something a little measured?

I mean it can't be coincidence that Liverpool face Leeds at Anfield on the opening weekend? It would be interesting to see how the fixture lists are actually put together.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1237626
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 21, 2020, 11:15:23 AM
Anyone know HOW the fixtures are compiled? Is it an entirely computer generated thing, just with algorithms to avoid having neighbouring clubs playng at home together or something a little measured?

I mean it can't be coincidence that Liverpool face Leeds at Anfield on the opening weekend? It would be interesting to see how the fixture lists are actually put together.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1237626

Ta  ;)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Drummond on August 21, 2020, 11:18:58 AM
Interesting.

Around March, the Premier League sends to each of its member clubs a form asking them to fill in three things:
1) Are there any dates you wish not to be at home? That is answered in conjunction with the local police.
2) Which club do you want to pair with?
3) Are there any teams you do not wish to play at home on Boxing Day?

So
1) The police will obviously ahve to consider any other major events happening at the same time.
2) I guess we'd be West Brom, but what if they want Wolves?
3) You'd think they might ask about who you don't want to play away to, thus stopping Southampton travelling to Newcastle for example.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Richard on August 21, 2020, 11:53:31 AM
So nice to quickly scan the EFL fixtures earlier and not see our name.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Damo70 on August 21, 2020, 12:02:55 PM
Anyone know HOW the fixtures are compiled? Is it an entirely computer generated thing, just with algorithms to avoid having neighbouring clubs playng at home together or something a little measured?

I mean it can't be coincidence that Liverpool face Leeds at Anfield on the opening weekend? It would be interesting to see how the fixture lists are actually put together.


Why would an opening fixture of Liverpool v Leeds be particularly coincidental?

Do they try to avoid local derbies on the first game of the season these days? I remember us playing at home to Albion on the first day in 1983 and at home to Coventry on the first day in 1984.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 21, 2020, 12:11:34 PM
Why would an opening fixture of Liverpool v Leeds be particularly coincidental?

It wouldn't. The league champions always play one of the promoted sides in the first game as far back as I can remember.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 21, 2020, 12:22:21 PM
Anyone know HOW the fixtures are compiled? Is it an entirely computer generated thing, just with algorithms to avoid having neighbouring clubs playng at home together or something a little measured?

I mean it can't be coincidence that Liverpool face Leeds at Anfield on the opening weekend? It would be interesting to see how the fixture lists are actually put together.

This is the annual reminder to long-standing members that I used to be on the fixtures committee. It's a very long-winded process that takes the best part of the season and the final draft is only completed a couple of days before they're announced. Where pairing is concerned, it's us & Small Heath, and Wolves & Albion. There used to be a lot more police concerns, mostly around bigger clubs playing at resorts in the holiday season, but they don't seem to be so much of a factor now. The police don't (or didn't) see the fixtures before the draft stage and don't have any other input than that.

New clubs entering the league get low-key home games for the first couple of weeks so they can sort out any problems and if you think it's typical of the league's idiocy when clubs have their longest journeys midweek, they ask for that to prevent overnight stays. All in all it's a very complicated process and the man who does it has my utmost respect. 
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Damo70 on August 21, 2020, 12:23:55 PM
I very rarely buy a newspaper these days (I can't recall the last time I did buy one) but I went out first thing this morning to get a paper with all the fixtures in. I have already put the pull out up on the wall of my den/man cave.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 21, 2020, 12:25:37 PM
I very rarely buy a newspaper these days (I can't recall the last time I did buy one) but I went out first thing this morning to get a paper with all the fixtures in. I have already put the pull out up on the wall of my den/man cave.

When do the Shoot ladders arrive?
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: john e on August 21, 2020, 12:34:21 PM
I very rarely buy a newspaper these days (I can't recall the last time I did buy one) but I went out first thing this morning to get a paper with all the fixtures in. I have already put the pull out up on the wall of my den/man cave.

When do the Shoot ladders arrive?

I'm sadly old enough to know exactly what your on about
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 21, 2020, 12:44:27 PM
My panini album is annoying.  It hasn’t got Antonee Robinson playing for Fulham. 
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 21, 2020, 12:47:34 PM
Anyone know HOW the fixtures are compiled? Is it an entirely computer generated thing, just with algorithms to avoid having neighbouring clubs playng at home together or something a little measured?

I mean it can't be coincidence that Liverpool face Leeds at Anfield on the opening weekend? It would be interesting to see how the fixture lists are actually put together.

This is the annual reminder to long-standing members that I used to be on the fixtures committee. It's a very long-winded process that takes the best part of the season and the final draft is only completed a couple of days before they're announced. Where pairing is concerned, it's us & Small Heath, and Wolves & Albion. There used to be a lot more police concerns, mostly around bigger clubs playing at resorts in the holiday season, but they don't seem to be so much of a factor now. The police don't (or didn't) see the fixtures before the draft stage and don't have any other input than that.

New clubs entering the league get low-key home games for the first couple of weeks so they can sort out any problems and if you think it's typical of the league's idiocy when clubs have their longest journeys midweek, they ask for that to prevent overnight stays. All in all it's a very complicated process and the man who does it has my utmost respect. 

Thanks for the insight Dave. Sounds like a lot of plate spinning, with the inevitable crash here and there!  ;)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 21, 2020, 01:03:56 PM
It is. The funniest was some years ago when if I remember it right, Blackburn were in the League Cup semis and also in danger of relegation. This would have caused a problem because European weeks coincided with a round of Championship midweek fixtures. Anyway, either they got knocked out or didn't get relegated, which was a huge relief to the committee, right up until the time that Ipswich, who went down, got a UEFA Cup fair play place.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 21, 2020, 11:36:09 PM
Wolves were asking for them and Chelsea to get the Manchester clubs first up. Chelsea and Wolves actually played Man. United first two games last season.

Would seem very logical but apparently TV didn't want Manchester derby too early in the season.

The TV companies don't see the fixtures until they're compiled.

They can request for certain games not to take place in certain weeks, same for the police so for instance you don't get a major derby on the first or last day of the season.

Edit: Oh didn't see you were on the fixtures ITK Dave. Surprised the police don't have as much say as a few years back.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 21, 2020, 11:48:02 PM
Wolves were asking for them and Chelsea to get the Manchester clubs first up. Chelsea and Wolves actually played Man. United first two games last season.

Would seem very logical but apparently TV didn't want Manchester derby too early in the season.

The TV companies don't see the fixtures until they're compiled.

They can request for certain games not to take place in certain weeks, same for the police so for instance you don't get a major derby on the first or last day of the season.

Edit: Oh didn't see you were on the fixtures ITK Dave. Surprised the police don't have as much say as a few years back.

It's never been the case that the police have any input into fixture compilation until the final draft.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 22, 2020, 12:34:34 AM
IIRC while a lot of pairings are obvious, some are less so but can be to do with train stations in use etc. Pretty sure Walsall pair with us.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: olaftab on August 22, 2020, 12:39:21 PM
It is. The funniest was some years ago when if I remember it right, Blackburn were in the League Cup semis and also in danger of relegation. This would have caused a problem because European weeks coincided with a round of Championship midweek fixtures. Anyway, either they got knocked out or didn't get relegated, which was a huge relief to the committee, right up until the time that Ipswich, who went down, got a UEFA Cup fair play place.
There must be something in here but far too complex for me to understand. :-\
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 10, 2020, 05:17:13 PM
From Ashley Preece

Fulham away moved again, Villa fans! Fixture at Craven Cottage now confirmed for Monday, September 28 (6pm kick-off). Back-to-back Monday night fixtures for Aston Villa's #PL start with Sheffield United (Sept 21) & Fulham (Sept 28).
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Footy-Vill on September 23, 2020, 10:34:17 AM
https://blog.betway.com/football/premier-league/why-a-fast-start-to-the-premier-league-is-more-crucial-than-ever/

This I find fascinating goes in with my line of thinking and is good barometer.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 23, 2020, 10:46:43 AM
Cheers F-V, interesting stuff especially if we can get 15 points on board after 10 games. ;)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Mister E on September 23, 2020, 12:09:41 PM
Cheers F-V, interesting stuff especially if we can get 15 points on board after 10 games. ;)
Do you think we can ? So vital we won that first match !
This would be 14pts plus our 3 already !
9 out of 10 to play let's say
Away win : Fulham 3pts ,
Home Wins: Leeds, Brighton, Southampton 9pts
Draws: West Ham , Arsenal 2pts
Defeats
Liverpool home
Leicester away
Fulham will definitely be targeting our game next Monday as a 'win' game; both because of our poor season last time out and because they beat us in the cup last season.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: sid1964 on September 23, 2020, 12:33:00 PM
We never win at Fulham
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 23, 2020, 01:53:46 PM
Correction, we never used to win at Fulham. ;)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: in exile on September 24, 2020, 11:26:33 AM
Correction, we never used to win at Fulham. ;)
I likes it :)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 27, 2020, 07:27:53 PM
Anyone have an idea the earliest date we could play Man. City this season? Next few weeks would be ideal given their lack of CBs and strikers but guess that won't be possible with international break and europe restarting.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 27, 2020, 07:29:17 PM
We never win at Fulham
we'll win tomorrow :)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 28, 2020, 10:57:14 PM
So it's at least a 2 month wait .
The rearranged match can't be made before December and likelihood it's January if not later.

And into February haven't covered the permutations on fixtures and man city Europe but it's very congested whenever it fitted in.

And maybe put back to towards end of season?

Just push it back to the end of the season and we can have a last game title decider like 1989.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: eamonn on December 06, 2020, 11:47:22 AM
Mourinho was moaning the other day that by the halfway point of the season every team should have played all their games up to that point and he singled us out as having two in hand on most clubs.

I think in other countries where he has managed, Spain and Italy notably, teams repeat the order of games from 1-19 to 20-38. I do prefer that format to be honest. Something bugs me about playing a team in December and then the return league game being a few weeks later. It happens every season. For us, this year it's our games with Burnley.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: olaftab on December 12, 2020, 09:44:46 PM
Brighton and West Ham were supposedly kinder and look what happened there.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Legion on December 12, 2020, 09:46:22 PM
Exactly. There are no easier or kinder fixtures. That mentality is wrong and would cost us if it was reflected by the ones who matter on the pitch.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Legion on December 12, 2020, 10:01:42 PM
So? That is not my point.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: olaftab on December 12, 2020, 10:15:46 PM
Footy I think the point is intensity can not drop. Take to the pitch with same mentality as if every game is against Liverpool and we will be fine.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Astnor on December 20, 2020, 10:46:02 PM
If we look at what has happened so far we will be expected to loose or draw with Palace at HOME in our next game and then win 1-0 or 3-0 against Chelsea and United AWAY in the next two.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: stevo_st on December 27, 2020, 09:46:08 AM
You would have been happy enough picking up 3 points from that run of games.
With current form 3 would be disappointing now
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Mellin on January 01, 2021, 05:49:15 PM
Very kind of the league to expand our run of difficult games by one
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Gareth on January 01, 2021, 06:57:49 PM
So the City game was part of the game week 1 schedule, when we play them do we have 7 or 9 subs on bench?? No doubt it will be 9 so PL rules will be out of sync again
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 01, 2021, 07:03:27 PM
Very kind of the league to expand our run of difficult games by one


If you are going to copy and paste from the Bluemoon fan site, could you please place in a quote box.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Clive W on January 12, 2021, 09:25:49 PM
Sorry if this has been posted

Percy in the DT reporting we’ve asked for Sunday’s game to be postponed

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/01/12/exclusiveaston-villa-request-postpone-sundays-premier-league/
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 12, 2021, 09:28:02 PM
We're be left with a cluster of games  towards the end of the season  - 76/77 revisited.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: exigo on January 13, 2021, 10:14:59 AM
Imagine a number of home games to be played in May. European football tantalisingly close. Villa Park now back down into the lower tiers of restrictions. 4,000 fans on the Holte cheering them home.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 13, 2021, 01:26:50 PM
We're be left with a cluster of games  towards the end of the season  - 76/77 revisited.

Not really. If the training ground can be re-opened on Saturday we can play at Man. City on Wednesday no problem unless half our squad have long covid, let's hope not though if most of them are looking o.k training round their gardens on insta.

Not sure why the Newcastle match for next Saturday hasn't been announced yet, can only think whichever tv company that is showing it is waiting to see what the FA cup picks are for that day.

Spurs-Everton could very easily be the 5th round of the cup so we can just play whichever one loses on quarter final weekend which will be in mid March.

We should still avoid fixture congestion right at end of the season but obviously can't foresee if other clubs will have outbreaks in next few weeks and it's obviously a big possibility.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 13, 2021, 01:56:01 PM
Although Smiths teams always seem to come good towards the end of season  ;)
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: ez on January 13, 2021, 03:25:46 PM
I was looking forward to us going above spurs tonight. Instead we could be six points adrift.
Title: Re: Fixtures Season 2020/21
Post by: eamonn on February 10, 2021, 09:40:00 AM
So much for everyone saying that we had no midweek games left for the rest of the season! (There's even one in May that has nothing to do with rescheduled fixtures).
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