Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cdbullyweefan on August 01, 2020, 09:34:48 AM
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The new season starts before the old one has finished. Chaos! Well, in the Scottish top flight anyway. I think I speak for all right-minded individuals when I say best of luck to Aberdeen today.
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Indeed, come on the Dons and nice to have the Arabs back!
Here we go, 10IAR! :)
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Wholly behind Aberdeen today, of course.
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Bah, that didn't last long. I'm back to hating football again. Grrr.
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All of Ross County’s goalkeepers are called Ross
(https://i.ibb.co/Rj7qxBg/6-B2-DB1-EE-BCAC-4-AAF-B3-FD-DE732-D3-CC18-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Rj7qxBg)
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Harrogate Town promoted to the football league beating Notts County in the play offs.
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Harrogate Town promoted to the football league beating Notts County in the play offs.
Clinching that all important final slot in FIFA 21.
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Scottish football looking as competitive as ever!
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Probably should start a new thread seeing as the 2020/21 season has actually started and use the other one to round off the season that’s still going on.
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There already is one started by CD....
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There already is one started by CD....
Ah yes missed that. As you were
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So, the richest game in football tonight, no fans, probably a good thing not to have Fulham's clappy twats anywhere near it.
Should be a good close game, close to call, probably just favour Fulham but would be fabulous for Brentford to win promotion.
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I'd quite like Brentford to win so its (hopefully) a new ground to go to. But, if they lose, we can probably sign Benrahma.
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I'd quite like Brentford to win so its (hopefully) a new ground to go to. But, if they lose, we can probably sign Benrahma.
A new new ground as well.
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I'd quite like Brentford to win so its (hopefully) a new ground to go to. But, if they lose, we can probably sign Benrahma.
A new new ground as well.
Sorry, that's what I meant. Hopefully a luckier one for us too!
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Get out of my thread with your 2019/20 nonsense. 😡
And, also, fuck Brentford. Bottling twats.
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Yeah, fuck Brentford,
They could have prevented the stripey ****** coming up.
Bottling fuckers.
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Deano is a pundit on sky for the game , not sure on the jacket 🤔
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No sign of Deano on my Bulgarian stream
Not sure of the barnet on Benrahma
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Omamah has become a better player since he turned Amish.
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Reed is pretty lucky to not get a red there.
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Which Scottish Premiership team does he play for?
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Deano is a pundit on sky for the game , not sure on the jacket 🤔
I think he looks very suave
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I wonder when people posting about the play-off game will realise they are on the wrong thread.
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Someone should have pointed it out to them.
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I wonder when people posting about the play-off game will realise they are on the wrong thread.
I posted on here because other people had.
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Henry is a good full back. Shame he is a rags fan.
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I wonder when people posting about the play-off game will realise they are on the wrong thread.
I posted on here because other people had.
Sheeple.
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No sign of Deano on my Bulgarian stream
Not sure of the barnet on Benrahma
I saw Deano very much socially distanced in the top tier of the stand with a hand full of other people who I presumed were journalists. They are certainly all keeping their distance from each other. Deano was also interviewed.
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So, the richest game in football tonight, no fans, probably a good thing not to have Fulham's clappy twats anywhere near it.
Should be a good close game, close to call, probably just favour Fulham but would be fabulous for Brentford to win promotion.
So instead of being sat down, clappering away at Wembley, they’re sat down, clappering away on their sofa. Probably making as much noise as well. Time for a cup of tea Rupert....
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No sign of Deano on my Bulgarian stream
Not sure of the barnet on Benrahma
I saw Deano very much socially distanced in the top tier of the stand with a hand full of other people who I presumed were journalists. They are certainly all keeping their distance from each other. Deano was also interviewed.
I `m guessing my screen froze at that point .......My technical assistant is otherwise engaged ...having a smoke in the garage :)
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I wonder when people posting about the play-off game will realise they are on the wrong thread.
We know, it’s fun to annoy the purists.
Anyway. It’s such a shame for Brentford fans not to be there, Fulham fans and their clappers can fuck off.
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You seem to get very annoyed by some bits of card.
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I’ve an allergy.
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No handball against Fulham there and Brentford converted the drop kick (or whatever). This match is total garbage.
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Expected better from you. Et tu, Stute?
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I’ve an allergy.
Same with me and work.
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Blimey, Fulham love to over-play. They are awful up top too.
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Wrong thread wankers
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Both set of forwards are complicating things too much not prepared to take it on and attacks fizzle out.
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Cant watch the game, but I am glad it is not the Villa because I would be soiling myself. And I already did that two weekends ago.
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Wrong thread wankers
(https://i.imgflip.com/t4atj.jpg)
You have obviously messed it up and people are winning.
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Is there a goal in the playoff final on this thread? If so I'll stay here.
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No but it's a shit game here how about the other thread still as bad?
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Fulham score
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Fuck is that clown playing at in goal?
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Fuck is that clown playing at in goal?
He was in a great position to pluck the floated free kick....but!
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Had to be Bryan didn’t it after I slated him.
Watkins you’re a prick too.
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Bottled it twice. Shame as I’d like them to have gone up.
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Keeper's had an absolute Barry Crocker there.
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Was hoping to see Jansen blarting again.
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Ollie Watkins would score about 4 goals playing for us. Guy hasn't stepped up at all when needed.
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Ollie Watkins would score about 4 goals playing for us. Guy hasn't stepped up at all when needed.
He’s played like a Villa CF tonight.
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Had to be Bryan didn’t it after I slated him.
Watkins you’re a prick too.
Seems a bit strong.
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Was hoping to prompt him into scoring to secure a bet - after I slated Bryan.
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Game over.
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Brentford one of those all fur coat and no knickers teams. Way some rave about their front 3 you'd think they were Barcelona standard. The reality is they've had three great chances to go up and bottled all of them with the strikers completely awol.
Fulham didn't even start their first choice front 3 tonight.
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Hoping its not us who spends the £25m+ on Benrahma, he's looked naff whenever ive watched them
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Hoping its not us who spends the £25m+ on Benrahma, he's looked naff whenever ive watched them
In an ideal world you'd want to loan with an option to buy but that rarely happens when a player is moving upward.
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I thought Benrahma was woeful tonight
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It will be a cruel summer if we have to pony up £20m for him.
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I thought Benrahma was woeful tonight
Seen him a few times now. Not sure what the fuss is about,
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I thought Benrahma was woeful tonight
Seen him a few times now. Not sure what the fuss is about,
Mason Mount was crap in last years play off final but I’d still take him 😉
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I thought Benrahma was woeful tonight
Seen him a few times now. Not sure what the fuss is about,
He's not a bad player but way some go on about him you'd think he's the only creative midfielder playing outside of the premier league in world football.
He reminds me a little of Adel Taarabt being amazing the year QPR went up (won clean sweep of awards for championship) and then he did nothing in the premier league or anywhere else in the last 9 years.
Would rather get in Eze from QPR who is very underrated compared to the adulation the Brentford forward line gets.
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I thought Benrahma was woeful tonight
Seen him a few times now. Not sure what the fuss is about,
He's not a bad player but way some go on about him you'd think he's the only creative midfielder playing outside of the premier league in world football.
He reminds me a little of Adel Taarabt being amazing the year QPR went up (won clean sweep of awards for championship) and then he did nothing in the premier league or anywhere else in the last 9 years.
Would rather get in Eze from QPR who is very underrated compared to the adulation the Brentford forward line gets.
A QPR fan I know says his good but his attitude stinks, doesn't track back and is a bit lazy.
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I thought Benrahma was woeful tonight
Seen him a few times now. Not sure what the fuss is about,
He's not a bad player but way some go on about him you'd think he's the only creative midfielder playing outside of the premier league in world football.
He reminds me a little of Adel Taarabt being amazing the year QPR went up (won clean sweep of awards for championship) and then he did nothing in the premier league or anywhere else in the last 9 years.
Would rather get in Eze from QPR who is very underrated compared to the adulation the Brentford forward line gets.
A QPR fan I know says his good but his attitude stinks, doesn't track back and is a bit lazy.
He's got that touch of class, Grealish lite on the ball and that's a pretty good strength to have.
Perhaps we couldn't fit both into the same 11 but it would be huge fun to watch and we'd actually dominate loads of games against bottom half teams which is the next step forward.
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I thought Benrahma was woeful tonight
Seen him a few times now. Not sure what the fuss is about,
He's not a bad player but way some go on about him you'd think he's the only creative midfielder playing outside of the premier league in world football.
He reminds me a little of Adel Taarabt being amazing the year QPR went up (won clean sweep of awards for championship) and then he did nothing in the premier league or anywhere else in the last 9 years.
Would rather get in Eze from QPR who is very underrated compared to the adulation the Brentford forward line gets.
A QPR fan I know says his good but his attitude stinks, doesn't track back and is a bit lazy.
He's got that touch of class, Grealish lite on the ball and that's a pretty good strength to have.
Perhaps we couldn't fit both into the same 11 but it would be huge fun to watch and we'd actually dominate loads of games against bottom half teams which is the next step forward.
Fair enough. Not seen much of him just going on 2nd hand info.
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Thought the left back for Brentford was their best player, Watkins not good enough for the Prem and Benrahma obviously has talent but would you spend the money?
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I wonder when people posting about the play-off game will realise they are on the wrong thread.
I posted on here because other people had.
*turning into my dad mode*
If they jumped off a cliff would you do that too?
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Neither side last night looked anywhere likely capable of breaching the 25 point mark next season.
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Fulham will buy big, be interesting to see if Fulham do a Fulham again
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Fulham will buy big, be interesting to see if Fulham do a Fulham again
Or whether they do a Villa this time?
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indeed
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Thought the left back for Brentford was their best player, Watkins not good enough for the Prem and Benrahma obviously has talent but would you spend the money?
It's hard going off one game. If you were a neutral watching our dire display away at Leicester for example, you'd have come away thinking that Mings and Jack weren't worth two bob between them.
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Apparently Premier League clubs are voting tomorrow on whether to continue with the 5 subs rule in the coming season. We are one of the clubs who object. 14 have to vote in favour.
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Apparently Premier League clubs are voting tomorrow on whether to continue with the 5 subs rule in the coming season. We are one of the clubs who object. 14 have to vote in favour.
It really favours the Sky 6 and that’s what football is all about now, we’d best get back in our place and play along.
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Fulham will buy big, be interesting to see if Fulham do a Fulham again
Surely Fulham will want to do a Villa, rather than a Fulham? Despite what the guy on 5live said this morning, Villa never did a Fulham at all.
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PL clubs vote against the 5 sub rule.
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What about the rest / drink / tactics / soon to be advert time outs?
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PL clubs vote against the 5 sub rule.
Good news.
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Great news regarding subs.
Really disadvantages bottom half of the table and keeps far too many benchwarmers top 6 happy
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Eight Aberdeen players out for tomorrow's game at St Johnstone. Seems like they were out in a Covid-ridden pub last week.
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Great news regarding subs.
Really disadvantages bottom half of the table and keeps far too many benchwarmers top 6 happy
Might have made it more likely that Man City would exercise their right to buy back Luiz as well.
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Yes, good point that. I reckon he is ours for next season, at least.
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Have we organised any pre season friendless including our annual mullering of Walsall yet?
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Eight Aberdeen players out for tomorrow's game at St Johnstone. Seems like they were out in a Covid-ridden pub last week.
I wish I had known that before backing Aberdeen to win 2-1.
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I heard. They're more worried about you betting on them than they are about the Coronavirus.
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Game now off, so you'll get your money back Damo.
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Have had a treble of Celtic, Gers and Aberdeen to win league and domestic cups.
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The first part of that will come in.
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Had each way so have covered by bets in case Rangers win the league.
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Man City v Real Madrid
City players went to go down to one knee at kick-off but Madrid just kicked off....
awkward
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
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I usually only put £1 quid on in season accumulators.
Stuck a £10 on the four Europe games last night easiest £200 ever.
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Tbf they've not been continuing, if they even started, the knee gesture in la liga.
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Good to know that they've resolved the issue of racism in Spain, then!!
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
Embarrassing for whom?
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
I've really taken a dislike to you, you know
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
Embarrassing for whom?
Should be an interesting response....
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Ah. Oh dear.
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
Embarrassing for whom?
Agreed, odd comment.
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
Embarrassing for whom?
White suprematists, KKK, tories 🤔😁
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
It's not or hasn't been embarrassing but I believe the point has been made and now the season has finished it seems an appropriate time to end it being done every game. Allow individual players to wear a BLM logo on their kit if they wish and consider a league wide taking a knee before a game to coincide with MLK Day or on a Saturday in Black History month.
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The season hasn't finished, you're just posting in the wrong thread. 😁
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The season hasn't finished, you're just posting in the wrong thread. 😁
It has for the Villa and that's all that really matters. :)
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
What's embarrassing about it?
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The start of the new domestic season is probably the point to stop taking the knee in my opinion. Although with my dodgy knees I am just bitter that most people can drop to their knee and get up again easier than I can. ;)
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It'll be interesting to see if they do allow individual players to sport a BLM patch - more because of what happens if players want to put another politically-aligned symbol on "their" shirt ? Would the club / PL let them ? Does the PL then become an arbiter of what is "acceptable" politically ?
Personally I haven't been a fan of it from the beginning. I watch 22 millionaires kicking a (high-tech) pig's bladder around a field for the joy of the sport, not for lessons in morality / politics. Much more impressed by Marcus Rashford's stance and activism on free meals for kids (a defined goal, pursued off the pitch), than anything BLM-related.
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Win for Rangers secures my fourfold this week!
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Nothing yet but he has addressed the issue on everyone’s mind, his fitba fourfold.
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
What's embarrassing about it?
In case you missed it.
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
What's embarrassing about it?
In case you missed it.
MAYBE IN CAPITALS?
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
What's embarrassing about it?
In case you missed it.
MAYBE IN CAPITALS?
No, if they are going to take the knee in London, Rome, Paris, Madrid etc. they should do it everywhere ;)
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The knee has taken its course. Let’s move on as it’s now embarrassing.
It's not or hasn't been embarrassing but I believe the point has been made and now the season has finished it seems an appropriate time to end it being done every game. Allow individual players to wear a BLM logo on their kit if they wish and consider a league wide taking a knee before a game to coincide with MLK Day or on a Saturday in Black History month.
Agreed.
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It'll be interesting to see if they do allow individual players to sport a BLM patch - more because of what happens if players want to put another politically-aligned symbol on "their" shirt ? Would the club / PL let them ? Does the PL then become an arbiter of what is "acceptable" politically ?
Personally I haven't been a fan of it from the beginning. I watch 22 millionaires kicking a (high-tech) pig's bladder around a field for the joy of the sport, not for lessons in morality / politics. Much more impressed by Marcus Rashford's stance and activism on free meals for kids (a defined goal, pursued off the pitch), than anything BLM-related.
Good set of points.
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The message has quite rightly been repeatedly hammered home loud and proud and has been respected and successful in it's high profile. But the taking the knee and slogans has to end some time and the new season seems an ideal time.
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Why does it have to end? Is racism sorted, now?
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Why does it have to end? Is racism sorted, now?
Will racism be sorted by footballers taking the knee for forever and a day? It reminds me of the episode of Frasier when his neighbour unveiled a huge obtrusive American flag draped across the apartment building and when asked how long he was going to keep flying it said he would keep it there until there was world peace.
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If City had taken a knee at the expense of a goal it would have sent the best message.
Why should it end? If it's finished now, then it looks like a little gesture during lockdown. In front of packed stadiums, the message will resonate far more.
As for being embarrassing, I don't know where to begin, I notice there's still no reply.
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But that's a bit like MLK and John Lewis walking across the Edmund Pettus Bridge for the second time and saying 'Well, we've made our point now, let's knock it all on the head'.
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I fail to see how one second of people kneeling down can cause any hardship to anyone. Black people are still suffering discrimination on a daily basis, keeping these issues in the public eye, via the medium of a platform of football matches watched by tens of millions worldwide, seems a good idea to me. Plus, the sort of people that get pissed off by this are, generally, the worst people in the world. So I'm all for it carrying on.
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I fail to see how one second of people kneeling down can cause any hardship to anyone. Black people are still suffering discrimination on a daily basis, keeping these issues in the public eye, via the medium of a platform of football matches watched by tens of millions worldwide, seems a good idea to me. Plus, the sort of people that get pissed off by this are, generally, the worst people in the world. So I'm all for it carrying on.
Agree 100%
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The message has quite rightly been repeatedly hammered home loud and proud and has been respected and successful in it's high profile. But the taking the knee and slogans has to end some time and the new season seems an ideal time.
This essentially is the nail on head - more eloquently put I admit.
I acknowledge that my previous post was in the wrong thread but my whole view on this matter is that the act itself (bending the knee) is politically driven and belongs on game of thrones- not a football pitch.
All lives matter surely - but even that doesn’t need to be paraded at a football match - racism is a societal issue that is not going to go away with any slogan, bending of the knee or what ever else.
It was a sincere gesture at the time but I don’t want to see
Politics involved on the pitch of my team.
Aston Villa fans may not be perfect but let me tell you I’m proud of our multicultural city, fans that attend VP and general attitude towards other races compared to other clubs in the UK let alone Europe.
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So let's carry on doing it then.
I agree with politics not being involved in football, but this isn't about politics, it's far, far more important than that.
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And I may add that I have both Black and Asian In my family and my wife is Romanian ( and two kids half Romanian)so I’m afraid you will have to put me in another box.
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Some of my best friends are...
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Samaritans?
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Surely it’s up to the players as a collective to decide if they want to continue to show their support for BLM. If they do then it is not the business of posters on a forum to tell them that they should stop.
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Surely it’s up to the players as a collective to decide if they want to continue to show their support for BLM. If they do then it is not the business of posters on a forum to tell them that they should stop.
Or as individuals.
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Some of my best friends are...
some of the other inmates... ;)
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Some of my best friends are...
Romanian?
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Some of my best friends are...
invisible
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Villa fans.
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Oops ...wrong thread
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Apparently Kienan Davis
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United game going to extra time
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Must be a Hell of a lot of extra time if it isn't going to finish until next season.
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Man U in penalty awarded shocker
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Getting them before the season has started is shocking, even for them.
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Had 1-0 man ure on a double - the sweetest thing !!!
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If this is close I suspect United will get a soft.....bugger couldn’t write quickly enough.
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Who scored? Guessing Marty McFly or The Doctor.
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the sweetest thing !!!
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but this is a disgrace. Pack it in right now.
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Who scored? Guessing Marty McFly or The Doctor.
Weird, you'd already told us that Who scored.
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Yes, s/he was rather hiding in plain sight in that post, admittedly.
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Just your 21 penalties for Man U this season then. Ho hum...
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21 penalties? Before it has even started? For fuck's sake! Someone should do something about this!
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There’s a celebration to have if Copenhagen equalise - I will laugh my bollocks off.
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A bit of appropriate thread confusion here. I blame you, CDBWF.
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Is it the wrong thread? Someone should have said...
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You started it.
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It will be a beautiful day when they all learn to post on the correct thread.
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I don't think you can annoy me with puns this week. Nothing can come close to the sheer, unadulterated, horror of Eamonn's revoltingly contrived Shakespeare's Sister "joke". Genuinely, every time I remember it I lose all faith in the future of humanity.
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That's okay, I'm sure the puns will continue with or without you.
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I think I have found what I'm looking for.
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Even when not at the game Manure fans manage to behave like ****** www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeSFAwQXbDs
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Chaching Baby - Man Ure winning pays for my weekend away!!
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Somewhere that doesn't have the internet hopefully.
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Chaching Baby - Man Ure winning pays for my weekend away!!
Bucharest is nice at this time of year.
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I hope noone tells William that bets won after extra time don't count.
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Chaching Baby - Man Ure winning pays for my weekend away!!
Bucharest is nice at this time of year.
Africa is even nicer.
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I hope noone tells William that bets won after extra time don't count.
Never heard of insurance After 90mins I assume bullyingweekids
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Oh dear. Bye then.
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I hope noone tells William that bets won after extra time don't count.
Never heard of insurance After 90mins I assume bullyingweekids
Eh?
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Hmm.
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Ah
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Oooh
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Just a little bit.
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Two monkeys are sitting in a bath
One says "ooh ooh ah ah oooh ooh"
The other says "well put more cold water in then"
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Better than any of Jon Crofts', to be fair.
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I hope noone tells William that bets won after extra time don't count.
Never heard of insurance After 90mins I assume bullyingweekids
Eh?
av5nobs?
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Better than any of Jon Crofts', to be fair.
I’ve a load of new monkey themed material just for you.
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Better than any of Jon Crofts', to be fair.
I’ve a load of new monkey themed material just for you.
Anything on how long a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard will take to come up with a funnier joke than one of yours? ;)
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I was only on here yesterday but I appear to have missed quite a lot and I am rather confused. Exactly how many pages do I have to go back to understand what is going on?
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It all becomes clear in the "Other Games - 2037/38" thread.
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Celtic and Aberdeen games off due to players being idiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53729449
it has been confirmed that Celtic's trip to St Mirren and Aberdeen's meeting with Hamilton Academical on Wednesday are both off. So, too, is the game between Celtic and Aberdeen on Saturday.
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Celtic and Aberdeen games off due to players being idiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53729449
[Sturgeon] added: "Consider today the yellow card. The next time it will be the red card because you will leave us with absolutely no choice."
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy
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They really should be throwing points deductions at the teams breaching the rules. Why should their opponents have to suffer a massive backlog because of them? Obviously this argument doesn't apply to the Celtic-Aberdeen game were both teams are to blame.
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Celtic and Aberdeen games off due to players being idiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53729449
Quite amusing that she announced this in a jacket that colour wise could easily be sold by the Celtic Store.
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Celtic and Aberdeen games off due to players being idiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53729449
[Sturgeon] added: "Consider today the yellow card. The next time it will be the red card because you will leave us with absolutely no choice."
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy
Which is? I heard it earlier and it just sounds like a cliffhanger.
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Up to their old tricks.
Sturgeon isn’t a happy sweaty.
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Up to their old tricks.
Sturgeon isn’t a happy sweaty.
You are a real sweetheart.
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Up to their old tricks.
Sturgeon isn’t a happy sweaty.
Did you get lost on your way out?
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The reason she's unhappy is someone told her that your flounce only lasted three and a half hours.
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The reason she's unhappy is someone told her that your flounce only lasted three and a half hours.
Flouncebackability.
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Wolves have got their excuse all lined up now...'the penalty should have been re-taken'.
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Retaken a season later? Madness.
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Sevilla making marmalade out of the dog heads
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Sevilla making marmalade out of the dog heads
After Sevilla beat them in the quarter finals in 2019-20 they must be gutted to come up against them again.
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Fucking hell....the dog heads haven’t even been in Sevilla’s half.
So much for global dominance. Shame.
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Bit mad that Wolves are playing Sevilla again so quickly. They've only just got knocked out of last season's competition.
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I could've sworn they'd missed out on qualification for this season. I should pay more attention.
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Eat your hearts out Dogheads ,outplayed for most of the game like the other night only this time your luck ran out
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They're playing again?! No wonder they looked so tired towards the end of the 2019/20 season!
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Tae fare. Lol.
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(Does anyone think I'm labouring the point? Nah, think I'll persist, I'm enjoying myself)
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No, no, keep up the sterling work. It's the only way they'll learn.
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Is it too early to start the 2021/22 thread, just to add a bit more chaos?
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Bit mad that Wolves are playing Sevilla again so quickly. They've only just got knocked out of last season's competition.
I really like this.
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I’ve been very dignified with wolves ascend but am happy to say haha😆
Fuck off dingles
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Arsenal plan to make 55 staff redundant because of the financial impact of the coronavirus pandemic.
The Gunners' first-team players and head coach Mikel Arteta agreed a 12.5% pay cut in April.
Arsenal's executive team also agreed to waive more than a third of their salaries over the next 12 months.
However, the club say they now face "more significant and longer-lasting reductions in our revenue than we all hoped".
Arsenal added they did not take the decision to propose redundancies "lightly" and had looked at "every aspect of the club and our expenditure before reaching this point".
"We know this is upsetting and difficult for our dedicated staff and our focus is on managing this as sensitively as possible," the club concluded in a statement.
The redundancies are in the football, commercial and administration departments, with the majority coming in the latter two.
There will also be cuts to staff benefits, capital projects and discretionary projects, but investments will continue to be made in the playing staff and Arsenal's transfer plans are unaffected.
The Arsenal Supporters' Trust (AST) told BBC Sport it is looking for more information from the club to explain the plans.
In a statement, AST said it had hoped the players' wages cuts "would be used to ensure all Arsenal staff are looked after in these difficult times".
It added that it would be contacting the club to make sure that the staff let go "are given as much support as possible".
Arsenal, who won a record 14th FA Cup against Chelsea on Saturday, cited the loss of revenue from fans likely not being able to return to Emirates Stadium for the start of the 2020-21 season and only in limited numbers after that.
They said revenue from broadcasters, matchday and commercial activities had all been "hit severely" and that the club are facing one of the "most challenging periods" in their history.
The statement said agreed wage cuts and investment from owner Stan Kroenke had helped "reduce the impact of the pandemic on the club" and "maintain investment in the team".
However, they added: "It is now clear that we must reduce our costs further to ensure we are operating in a sustainable and responsible way, and to enable us to continue to invest in the team."
The proposals will now enter a 30-day consultation period.
Analysis
BBC sports editor Dan Roan
By becoming the first Premier League outfit to announce major job losses, Arsenal have issued a stark reminder of the unprecedented financial pressure that even big clubs find themselves under after a long period without matchday revenue, with less broadcast income than anticipated, and with the prospect of many months until grounds are back to full capacity.
At a time when the government is keen to see the Premier League do more to help lower league clubs survive the Covid-19 crisis, it also shows how difficult those negotiations could be.
However, many will ask whether it is right that so many lower-paid staff jobs are being lost at an estimated annual saving of around £2m when Arsenal are paying Mesut Ozil £350,000 per week, and are reported to have offered Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang a new £250,000-a-week contract.
The club have made clear that they have received "significant financial support" from owner Stan Kroenke for the refinancing of stadium debt. But it has not gone unnoticed that the American's wealth, already estimated at $8.3bn (£6.32bn), has reportedly increased by $400m (£305m) during the pandemic.
Arsenal will make the point that, despite an annual wage bill of around £230m, the players have agreed to a wage cut to do their bit, along with executives. And that at a time when there is no hospitality business for instance, that they have to prioritise their core product - the team - and make some tough choices.
But after both Spurs and Liverpool reversed their controversial decisions to put non-playing staff on furlough when the season was suspended amid fierce criticism from fans, it will be interesting to see if Arsenal stand firm or reconsider this move.
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You could argue that they can't do much about paying Ozil what he's already due contractually and that keeping Aubameyang is important to maintain the squad. But when they do this to in their own words to 'reduce our costs', and then offer 32 year old Willian a 3-year £130k per week deal and try to sign Coutinho who I'm sure will be well above that, one can only come to the conclusion that they are a grotesque bunch of c**ts.
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For Gods sake Bournemouth beating Everton!
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I only read 'Other Games'. Apart from Scotland I don't think anyone else has started next season yet have they? And where is the right place to post about the European games if the 'Other Games' thread isn't the right one?
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https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=59878.0 for matters relating to 2019/20 season.
For 2020/21 season, post here. Scotland isn't the only league to have started, other powerhouses such as Bosnia, Belgium, Japan and Moldova have also done so.
Confusingly, there are two Champions Leagues running simultaneously, with the 2020/21 qualifiers having already began. Linfield's match was postponed as some of their Kosovar opponents tested positive for Covid.
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You could argue that they can't do much about paying Ozil what he's already due contractually and that keeping Aubameyang is important to maintain the squad. But when they do this to in their own words to 'reduce our costs', and then offer 32 year old Willian a 3-year £130k per week deal and try to sign Coutinho who I'm sure will be well above that, one can only come to the conclusion that they are a grotesque bunch of c**ts.
Coutinho strikes me as a player who has won his medals, banked his money and is on the way down and possibly lacking motivation.
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The first 4 rounds of the Carabao Cup will be in September and the semi-finals will be over one leg. There will be no FA Cup Replays.
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You could argue that they can't do much about paying Ozil what he's already due contractually and that keeping Aubameyang is important to maintain the squad. But when they do this to in their own words to 'reduce our costs', and then offer 32 year old Willian a 3-year £130k per week deal and try to sign Coutinho who I'm sure will be well above that, one can only come to the conclusion that they are a grotesque bunch of c**ts.
I suspect Arsenal were feeling the pinch even before Coronavirus. I am guessing they factor Champions League football into their budget and not competing in the Champions League will hit them hard.
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Spurs set to lose out on 200m of revenue up to June 2021 if things don't return to normal. Such a shame.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12000522/coronavirus-tottenham-borrow-175m-to-cover-costs-incurred-due-to-pandemic
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Spurs set to lose out on 200m of revenue up to June 2021 if things don't return to normal. Such a shame.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12000522/coronavirus-tottenham-borrow-175m-to-cover-costs-incurred-due-to-pandemic
How has that happened with the financial genius that is Daniel Levy in charge? ;)
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We should offer them £3m and Davis for Kane.
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Skint pricks.
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Spurs set to lose out on 200m of revenue up to June 2021 if things don't return to normal. Such a shame.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12000522/coronavirus-tottenham-borrow-175m-to-cover-costs-incurred-due-to-pandemic
How has that happened with the financial genius that is Daniel Levy in charge? ;)
Well considering they had supposedly £200million coming in during one year without Covid, then it kind of gives credence to him being normally good with financials. (or the fact he managed to get £175mil loan at 0.5% interest).
Anyway, I suspect all clubs have felt the pinch across the board and next year will have several clubs relegated from their respective divisions on financials I reckon. Unfortunately some of those will be gone for good.
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£460m revenue is still pretty decent. Just shows the difference if you can hang around in this league for a few years.
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£460m revenue is still pretty decent. Just shows the difference if you can hang around in this league for a few years.
We managed to hang around in this league for a quarter of a century but somehow managed to do it with commercial income mostly flat.
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Ah yes one of your big bug bears quite right too.
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1-0 Lyon. Lovely
*VAR reviewing
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Given
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Wrong thread!
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Ah, shit. Sorry.
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No problem. Easy mistake to make.
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Given
Five year contract aged 35. Shudder.
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And I may add that I have both Black and Asian In my family and my wife is Romanian ( and two kids half Romanian)so I’m afraid you will have to put me in another box.
So why would continuing with taking the knee be embarrassing then?
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Two monkeys are sitting in a bath
One says "ooh ooh ah ah oooh ooh"
The other says "well put more cold water in then"
Two nuns sitting in the bath. One says "Where's the soap" the other replies "it does, doesn't it?"
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Two monkeys are sitting in a bath
One says "ooh ooh ah ah oooh ooh"
The other says "well put more cold water in then"
Two nuns sitting in the bath. One says "Where's the soap" the other replies "it does, doesn't it?"
Two nuns on bikes riding on a cobbled street.
Nun 1 - "I've never come this way before"
Nun2 - "Neither have I, it must be the cobbles"
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I wondered where the Jokes thread had gone.
Still looking.
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Here in the Faroe Islands, there is an UCL game postponed from tuesday because a player was tested positive for Covid-19 from Slovan Bratislava. It was moved to tonight at 18, and they sent for their reserve team to play instead, but brought 5 players from their last game, where the 1st case was discovered, and when they arrived yesterday, they got tested and another case was found - so the whole team has been put into quarantine.
KÍ - Slovan Bratislava looks like cancelled (and should be KÍ that progress)
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Very happy with Rangers win.
We get Celtic’s striker and this could be an interesting season.
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Given the problems with their new kit suppliers surely you mean a good win for R ng rs. :)
Strange that they've chosen the Chuckle Brothers to be their kit suppliers for 5 years when you see the likes of Hamilton with another smart Adidas kit.
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we won one lost one vs Bristol City. Both games ended 1-0. Lost the first game and won the second - Ally with the goal. Games were only 60 minutes
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Is Edouard injured? Notice he's not in the line up or on the bench.
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Celtic match tonight - how is that not a clash of kits?
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Edouard out with a thigh injury according to the BBC
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Oh dear Celtic, oh dear.
Nelson. Simpson’s. Finger. Laugh.
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Oh dear Celtic, oh dear.
Nelson. Simpson’s. Finger. Laugh.
Could have been worse they could have lost at home, wah hah ha.
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Tbf they could turn it round in Budapest with a couple of away goals.
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Tbf they could turn it round in Budapest with a couple of away goals.
No they can’t
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Given the problems with their new kit suppliers surely you mean a good win for R ng rs. :)
Strange that they've chosen the Chuckle Brothers to be their kit suppliers for 5 years when you see the likes of Hamilton with another smart Adidas kit.
That Accies shirt is ace from the front but the plain back annoys me. I wish teams with traditional hoops or stripes would quit fannying around and commit to the look.
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Oh dear Celtic, oh dear.
Nelson. Simpson’s. Finger. Laugh.
Could have been worse they could have lost at home, wah hah ha.
"Thursday night channel 5, Thursday night channel 5". Although these days the chant is "Thursday night not even on Channel 5, Thursday night not even on Channel 5".
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Friday morning on Freesports.....
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Brentford vs West Ham friendly - no Watkins or Benrahma. I expect one or both to move this week, the latter maybe by the following week.
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Oh dear spuds just beat Small Heath with more or less the last kick of the game It serves them right for laughing at me when they did it to us last season
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We beat Wycombe at Bodymoor 5-2. Goals by AEG (2), Ally, Konsa and Trez. Douglas Luiz played and Nyland saved a penno.
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Momentous news, I've just found out there is a Motherwell Villa AFC.
Amateur team in Scotland.
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2,500 fans in at the Amex yesterday. Some images of what to expect from the new normal.
Twitter linky (https://twitter.com/premierleague/status/1299734943187247104)
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Watching the Reims v Lille game, looks like France have gone for reduced capacity, but pretty much sit where you like as long as you've got a mask on.
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Rangers FC win yesterday and Celtic today has paid for my Chinese tonight.
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Rangers FC win yesterday and Celtic today has paid for my Chinese tonight.
I had a correct score win yesterday on Rangers to win 2-0 at 5/1 and I also copped a 10/1 treble on Kilmarnock,
St. Johnstone and Livingston. I was also on for a 2-0 correct score Celtic win today until they decided they needed to score a third in the 92nd minute.
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The fact that my Chinese comes to £13 shows he level of odds / stake for Rangers FC to have won yesterday along with Celtic FC today.
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Actually like the idea of Europa league being one off / FA cup style drawer as opposed to two legs.
The mighty Gers go to Gibraltar.
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Actually like the idea of Europa league being one off / FA cup style drawer as opposed to two legs.
The mighty Gers go to Gibraltar.
It should be pointed out that if you hear monkey noises at a game in Gibraltar it isn't racism, it is real monkeys ;)
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Actually like the idea of Europa league being one off / FA cup style drawer as opposed to two legs.
The mighty Gers go to Gibraltar.
It should be pointed out that if you hear monkey noises at a game in Gibraltar it isn't racism, it is real monkeys ;)
Burberry Apes
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Georgio Armani Gibbons
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It should be pointed out that if you hear monkey noises at a game in Gibraltar it isn't racism, it is real monkeys ;)
Could be the brothers Hun-Ahan and Hun-Cheven. ;)
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Actually like the idea of Europa league being one off / FA cup style drawer as opposed to two legs.
The mighty Gers go to Gibraltar.
It should be pointed out that if you hear monkey noises at a game in Gibraltar it isn't racism, it is real monkeys ;)
Burberry Apes
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Georgio Armani Gibbons
In the eighties my Mum used to work for his brother Stanley Gibbons.
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My mother knew Stella Gibbons but that was cold comfort to me down on the farm.
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My mother knew Stella Gibbons but that was cold comfort to me down on the farm.
I’d have applauded this earlier but I saw something nasty in the wood shed.
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The five sub thing got voted down again today, thankfully.
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That was always going to be the case, no way 14 clubs were going to vote for it.
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Bit of bad luck for Grandma Teeth Klopp then, he seemed to be the main advocate for keeping it.
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It looks like the Latvian stadium has just three stands and one side of the pitch consists of some nice looking trees. Seeing as Small Heath can't fill their ground unless the Villa rock up and just put a big advertising banner over the Railway End why don't they knock it down and grow a few trees in it's place instead.
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Bit of bad luck for Grandma Teeth Klopp then, he seemed to be the main advocate for keeping it.
the sooner Liverpool and Man Utd fuck of to a European super league the better imo
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Bit of bad luck for Grandma Teeth Klopp then, he seemed to be the main advocate for keeping it.
the sooner Liverpool and Man Utd fuck of to a European super league the better imo
I too cannot wait for the death of football as a competitive sport.
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It looks like Turkey are going to let me down on a 55/1 fivefold.
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Injury time equaliser for the ROI away to Bulgaria. Header by Duffy who could prove to be a good loan signing for The Bhoys.
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Faroe islands last minute goal to clinch a 3-2 against Malta (He plays for Helsingborgs IF, Sweden)
(Facebook link)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157627654038434&id=681198433
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Faroe islands last minute goal to clinch a 3-2 against Malta (He plays for Helsingborgs IF, Sweden)
(Facebook link)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157627654038434&id=681198433
Great strike! Up the Faroes
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The five sub thing got voted down again today, thankfully.
Defeated 11-9 and according to everybody's "favourite" newspaper "Aston Villa led the backlash and opposition." Fair play!
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The five sub thing got voted down again today, thankfully.
Defeated 11-9 and according to everybody's "favourite" newspaper "Aston Villa led the backlash and opposition." Fair play!
Yes, but we shouldn't need to backlash, it's our bloody league, we invented it, and whatever is our choice should law.
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Just put £4 on a 270/1 accumulator for tonight's internationals. Can't see a single reason why I won't win.
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You’ve got a small chance if Damo hasn’t done the same bet.
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You’ve got a small chance if Damo hasn’t done the same bet.
No I haven't. My acca tonight is a very modest fourfold that pays out at 5/1.
Scotland 1-0 up against Israel thanks to a penalty won by SJM.
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You’ve got a small chance if Damo hasn’t done the same bet.
No I haven't. My acca tonight is a very modest fourfold that pays out at 5/1.
Scotland 1-0 up against Israel thanks to a penalty won by SJM.
I need that to be a draw.
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SJM still looking a little chunky, I'd say.
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I'm being offered a cash out at £7. I'm definitely going to win.
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You’ve got a small chance if Damo hasn’t done the same bet.
No I haven't. My acca tonight is a very modest fourfold that pays out at 5/1.
Scotland 1-0 up against Israel thanks to a penalty won by SJM.
I need that to be a draw.
It was a draw. I did not win.
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this site don't seem to be pro england national team but what time does your game kick off tomorrow ?
on sky i guess ?
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this site don't seem to be pro england national team but what time does your game kick off tomorrow ?
on sky i guess ?
5pm kick off in Iceland live on SKY with highlights on ITV at about 11pm I think.
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cheers thats my football fix sorted
was nice to win 1 nil in Finland last night from our lot !
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Scotland outplayed by the mighty Israel.
Good to see SJM In action.
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SJM still looking a little chunky, I'd say.
Bloody hell.
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It was last night Vill.
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He did not. :-)
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Birmingham 0 Cambridge United 1
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Birmingham 0 Cambridge United 1
My only worry is that we won the League after losing to Cambridge United in the League Cup....
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Birmingham 0 Cambridge United 1
Good
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Birmingham 0 Cambridge United 1
My only worry is that we won the League after losing to Cambridge United in the League Cup....
Don’t worry. They’re shit
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Cambridge have got their starter for ten away to Small Heath.
'World's stickiest bogey - Toxteth O'Grady' ;)
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Coventry down to ten men early doors away to MK Dons.
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Watching Walsall vs Sheff Wed right now. Pretty bland game - still 0-0. The Walsall centre forward is terrible. But what struck me is how much nicer players are to each other with no fans which is natural I suppose. Fans add so much more energy, passion and aggression to the game.
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Wes Hoolahan playing for Cambridge. Weren't we linked with him under Lambert?
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Yes the only player I ever saw score and not celebrate against a club he didn’t sign for.
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Was that the one where Benteke scored that belter; took it on his chest with with his back to goal and lashed it in?
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Jack on the bench for the England game.
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Watching Walsall vs Sheff Wed right now. Pretty bland game - still 0-0. The Walsall centre forward is terrible. But what struck me is how much nicer players are to each other with no fans which is natural I suppose. Fans add so much more energy, passion and aggression to the game.
I'm watching that too, earlier I sat through Derby v Barrow and that ended 0-0. Not having much luck on the goal front, bit like Villa trying to sign a striker!
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No Grealish or Mings in the England starting eleven. Instead, Southgate prefers a central midfielder in Dier playing at centre back, no proper left back by the looks of it, and Ward-Prowse gets a debut. It's as poor a side as I have seen for a while for England.
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No Grealish or Mings in the England starting eleven. Instead, Southgate prefers a central midfielder in Dier playing at centre back, no proper left back by the looks of it, and Ward-Prowse gets a debut. It's as poor a side as I have seen for a while for England.
Safety first from gormless Southgate. How predictable.
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to be fair Ward-Prowse had a very good end to the season
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No Grealish or Mings in the England starting eleven. Instead, Southgate prefers a central midfielder in Dier playing at centre back, no proper left back by the looks of it, and Ward-Prowse gets a debut. It's as poor a side as I have seen for a while for England.
Safety first from gormless Southgate. How predictable.
I believe that that will be the rock he perishes on.
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No Grealish or Mings in the England starting eleven. Instead, Southgate prefers a central midfielder in Dier playing at centre back, no proper left back by the looks of it, and Ward-Prowse gets a debut. It's as poor a side as I have seen for a while for England.
Safety first from gormless Southgate. How predictable.
I believe that that will be the rock he perishes on.
I hope so, Dave.
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How is Foden a central midfielder but Jack isn't? I absolutely don't get that.
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We could field an exciting team to play Iceland, but no let’s play safe and field a solid unit instead.
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Jack will never play 😑
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Modern life being what it is, #SouthgateOut is trending on Twitter with every malcontent under the sun whinging that their favourite player hasn't been picked.
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Ah well at least Blues can concentrate on the league now.
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See Birkir starts for them
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Never offside, should be 1 up.
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This is such an England game.
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No Grealish or Mings in the England starting eleven. Instead, Southgate prefers a central midfielder in Dier playing at centre back, no proper left back by the looks of it, and Ward-Prowse gets a debut. It's as poor a side as I have seen for a while for England.
Not to mention picking two right backs, neither of whom are even the best right-back in the country. Or putting Pickford in goal over Henderson and Pope, both of whom had much better seasons.
Unpopular opinion I know but I quite like Southgate as a person and don't think he's as bad a manager as he's made out to be. But that's a horrendous team selection.
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Boring and predictable
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I forgot Ward-Prowse was playing, he's been utterly anonymous.
Sancho needs to take his man on much more, playng it far too safe.
Game is boring as fuck.
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Sancho? Is he really all that?
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He can be, but he's been poor today, this is why I'm not convinced he's ready to be a full international.
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Who's doing co-comms? Whoever it is is doing so exactly as England play: soporific.
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Who's doing co-comms? Whoever it is is doing so exactly as England play: soporific.
Alan Smith if you're watching on Sky.
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Bollocks, as usual. Southgate wants to play with pacey, brainless wingers and ignores Jack, against a team that's obviously going to sit deep and squeeze the space.
Twat
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Who's doing co-comms? Whoever it is is doing so exactly as England play: soporific.
Alan Smith if you're watching on Sky.
I'm watching Astro Supersport 3.
Me neither.
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That was dull. Should be 1-0 up.
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Boring.
Bollocks, as usual. Southgate wants to play with pacey, brainless wingers and ignores Jack, against a team that's obviously going to sit deep and squeeze the space.
Twat
Yup, when playing teams sitting so deep with very little interest in taking the game to us you need something a bit different.
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Rice, Ward-Prowse and Dier. Flair unlimited.
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Any chance of having the last 45 minutes of my life back please?’
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Always said Southgate has been ludicrously promoted over his pay-grade. Even if you ignore his wretched club manager stats, wouldn't you at least appoint someone with a personality if you're going down the ex-player with no visible qualifications route.
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I'm back to my pre-2018 feeling of can't be fucking arsed with England.
That summer was good whilst it lasted.
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He's Ron Greenwood reincarnated, an over promoted suit with all the right badges and connections at the FA.
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Nice one so far Southgate you big nosed tw@t.
Crying out for some individual flair
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This really is made for Grealish.
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This really is made for Grealish.
It's so obvious, but I bet he doesn't bring him on.
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Game is crying out for Phillips and Coady to come on and bring a bit of dependable solidity to the team.
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And Owen Hargreaves, just to make sure.
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This really is made for Grealish.
It's so obvious, but I bet he doesn't bring him on.
Don't know how many subs allowed but Greenwood, Mount, Phillips all likely to come on before Jack
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This really is made for Grealish.
It's so obvious, but I bet he doesn't bring him on.
Don't know how many subs allowed but Greenwood, Mount, Phillips all likely to come on before Jack
If you mean Ron, Peggy and Leslie I agree.
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Really poor so far.
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This really is made for Grealish.
It's so obvious, but I bet he doesn't bring him on.
Its a dream scenario for Grealish but like you say its not going to happen.
Not sure what Ward-Prowse is doing in this game.
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Foden has done fuck all
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England are fucking dreadful. So predicable and slow.
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Come on Gareth unleash your tactical genius against this competent team.
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You could take the entire midfield and attack off and none of them could feel hard done by.
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This is exactly the type of game that Jack could create something out of nothing.
Fuck this is boring
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Foden has done fuck all
Foden will look good when surrounded by world class players and his team is 5-0 up. May be Gareth should try a player who performed well in an ordinary struggling team🤔
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Football London are saying we beat Arsenal 3-2 in the friendly/training match today. Reporting Douglas Luiz on the scoresheet, with 19-year-old Jacob Ramsey netting twice.
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Foden has done fuck all
But but but he's played 8 games with Kevin De Bruyne and when City have been 22-0, he is class. Fucking anonymous.
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Closest we’ve come to scoring and it nearly an og. This half anyway.
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This game is achieving the impossible, by making Total Wipeout a viable alternative viewing option.
Utter pish.
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Martin Tyler. Shut up you ******.
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The issue isn’t the striker, the issue is the creativity.
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Tyler trying and failing to explain Icelandic naming conventions.
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Foden has done fuck all
But but but he's played 8 games with Kevin De Bruyne and when City have been 22-0, he is class. Fucking anonymous.
M80, he's done more to deserve a start than Grealish!
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No point putting Ings on when no one is creating chances for the front men!
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southgate said he didn't see grealish in midfield. 67 mins in and I don't recall seeing ward-prowse or foden in there either.
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Lets pull out the grass is too long excuse.
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Tyler trying and failing to explain Icelandic naming conventions.
Which really isn't hard! Good grief!
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Apparently the grass is not cut to prem level , that’s why they can’t zip it around 🤔
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He’s not going to bring Jack on because that would be admitting he was wrong to not pick him to begin with. He’s too arrogant for that.
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This game and Alan Smith are the perfect match up. Dull as fcuk.
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Might be good for Jack to not get on today with the team continue to struggle and him get a proper chance on Tuesday
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that's a pathetic challenge from Walker, fucking idiot.
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Kyle Walker's sex workers must have arrived.
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Walker is a liability. Useless, crap attitude. Drop him and leave him dropped.
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Kyle Walker an accident waiting to happen
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Might be good for Jack to not get on today with the team continue to struggle and him get a proper chance on Tuesday
I think this too. Although now we can be the plucky ten men getting an away draw or even win. Sancho Foden ward-prowse all shit
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What an absolute disaster of a game.
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Foden, Ward Prowse and Rice. Like a diarrhoea sandwich.
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How the fuck is Kane still on the pitch, he can barely run.
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Another defensive move. Twunt
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He was stupid and reckless to make that challenge when he was already on a yellow.
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He really needs to get that side dish Rice off the pitch.
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If only there was a player on the bench capable of beating a man and playing a killer pass.
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I hate Southgate. Utterly clueless.
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Ward-Prowse to RB.
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If only there was a player on the bench capable of beating a man and playing a killer pass.
But Foden was taken off! There is no one else!
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Doesn't appear to have occurred to the commentary team let alone Southgate that maybe Jack might be needed
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Grealish for Kane would help get the shape back
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I hate Southgate. Utterly clueless.
Me too. Look at his gormless, clueless face.
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Trent Alexander-Arnold replaces Jadon Sancho and England go 4-2-3
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Agree with the commentator as he's pointed numerous times, it's dire.
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All this talent at his disposal and he dishes this up. The weasel.
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I hate Southgate. Utterly clueless.
Me too. Look at his gormless, clueless face.
Uts like he's somebody's dad who has taken over the u-13s. Dire manager at club level and utterly clueless at international level.
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He is a dull manager.
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Agree with the commentator as he's pointed numerous times, it's dire.
It has been totally Eric
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I hate Southgate. Utterly clueless.
Me too. Look at his gormless, clueless face.
I hate Southgate. Utterly clueless.
Me too. Look at his gormless, clueless face.
He’s had that since we turned down his move to Chelsea and forced him to spend his time in Middlesbrough
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Last sub... now change hat
Áfram Ísland! Beat them again! Was in Nice in 2016
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Greenwood on for Kane.
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I hate Southgate. Utterly clueless.
Me too. Look at his gormless, clueless face.
Uts like he's somebody's dad who has taken over the u-13s. Dire manager at club level and utterly clueless at international level.
The sort of dad who picks his fat, unfit rubbish son at the expense of the kid who the local scouts have been looking at.
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oh look, they've given us no space in behind all game so the masterstroke is another player who wants to run in behind.
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To get yourself sent off in a game like this, for two yellow cards, against this sort of opposition, is one hell of an accomplishment.
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Greenwood on.....turn over to watch portillo on trains.
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how the f*ck can we have dier, ward prowse and rice play 90mins in against a team sitting so deep
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Keep yourself sat down Jack. You want no part in this.
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Greenwood on.....turn over to watch portillo on trains.
To be fair, Portillo on Trains is a really good watch!
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We lost to Iceland the last time we played them so Southgate can count a draw as progress ;)
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oh look, they've given us no space in behind all game so the masterstroke is another player who wants to run in behind.
It’s pretty basic stuff isn’t it.
What England have needed is the ability to move players around in front of the penalty area with movement and quick passing.
Instead it’s the get it outside, go inside , out wide again , go inside.
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Alexander-Arnold brought on for the corners, I guess? Attritional stuff.
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Southgate out of his depth against Iceland.
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oh look, they've given us no space in behind all game so the masterstroke is another player who wants to run in behind.
It’s pretty basic stuff isn’t it.
What England have needed is the ability to move players around in front of the penalty area with movement and quick passing.
Instead it’s the get it outside, go inside , out wide again , go inside.
But no commentator or pundit will say anything about how fucking shit our tactics have been because they are all part of the problem.
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Penalty England!
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England get out of jail. Sterling is the only player on the pitch worth his place. Never a penalty
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That's a gift, never a penalty.
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Never a penalty for me.
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Ha Ha!
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at least he's evened it up
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England get out of jail. Sterling is the only player on the pitch worth his place. Never a penalty
Yep, apart from him (and Kane scoring / not scoring) I can't remember any of the rest doing anything.
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Oh ffs
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Hilarious. Please Iceland, score.
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Unbelievable. Hope this doesn't mask the fact that this was a desperately shit performance.
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Haha.
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What a shambles of a game.
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Villa all over.
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Gareth Southgate is clearly the luckiest manager on earth.
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What a miss. Jesus.
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Gomez you twat
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We can only get better. That was gash! Hope he makes changes for Tuesday
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Absolute, unadulterated, fucking wank.
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The problem now is that because we won the shit performance will be ignored.
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Got the job done or a shit performance.
I wonder which one the media will go with?
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In line with government policy Gareth Southgate praises “world leading” England performance.
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Never Fancied Birkir to put it away ,i will never forget his miss at Preston a couple of seasons ago
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Absolute, unadulterated, fucking wank.
So it’s definitely coming home then?
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Both were soft penalty decisions.
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That was absolute shite.
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Got the job done or a shit performance.
I wonder which one the media will go with?
Both, I expect.
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Jack lucky to not get on and be associated with that dross.
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Southgate out of his depth against Iceland.
He will get slaughtered if they play Waitrose.
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heh, Bjarnason. The gift that keeps giving (to others)
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When you play a side who sit deep, you need players who can open them up.
That was an embarrassing performance from start to finish.
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Every decent team knows how to play against us, many of them are a lot more dangerous on the break than Iceland. If Southgate doesn't wake up to it soon then I can see another plucky run to the knockouts before getting brushed aside by the first decent team we face in them.
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Southgate out of his depth against Iceland.
He will get slaughtered if they play Waitrose.
He asda go.
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A game under our belts and a win. I am in a glass half full mood tonight.
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Southgate out of his depth against Iceland.
He will get slaughtered if they play Waitrose.
He asda go.
I wonder what Clinton Morrison's view is?
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Jack would've been perfect for the England v Iceland game he would have opened them up it wasn't a very good game it was crying out for creativity.
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Every decent team knows how to play against us, many of them are a lot more dangerous on the break than Iceland. If Southgate doesn't wake up to it soon then I can see another plucky run to the knockouts before getting brushed aside by the first decent team we face in them.
To be fair, that would make him no worse and no better than virtually all England managers.
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Every decent team knows how to play against us, many of them are a lot more dangerous on the break than Iceland. If Southgate doesn't wake up to it soon then I can see another plucky run to the knockouts before getting brushed aside by the first decent team we face in them.
To be fair, that would make him no worse and no better than virtually all England managers.
How many others have a player like Jack getting splinters in his arse?
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Every decent team knows how to play against us, many of them are a lot more dangerous on the break than Iceland. If Southgate doesn't wake up to it soon then I can see another plucky run to the knockouts before getting brushed aside by the first decent team we face in them.
To be fair, that would make him no worse and no better than virtually all England managers.
How many others have a player like Jack getting splinters in his arse?
All of them apart from, possibly, Terry Vegetables. But he'd probably pick Darren Anderton instead.
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Gibraltar beat San Marino. San Marino have still never won a competitive game of football, and have one friendly win ever.
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Southgate out of his depth against Iceland.
He will get slaughtered if they play Waitrose.
He asda go.
I wonder what Clinton Morrison's view is?
If we had been playing Aldi Jack would still not have got on.
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Does our win vs Arsenal today put us above them in the league standings? Last table I saw we were second.
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a disappointing game for the neutrals but a wins a win
both pens were very soft and i notice the get grealish on thread -twitter was trending earlier
no doubt he will get on for a few minutes next game to get a cap
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a disappointing game for the neutrals but a wins a win
both pens were very soft and i notice the get grealish on thread -twitter was trending earlier
no doubt he will get on for a few minutes next game to get a cap
I would hope that Southgate will make wholesale changes and give some of the other players in the squad a go, otherwise, why bother picking them.
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You'd think he'd save the better players for Denmark as opposed to Iceland. I don't think Southgate sees Grealish as part of that group. The twat.
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i notice even fans from other english clubs were willing for Grealish to play today too
i was reading tonight he had a slight knock but could be paper talk
wish Wales had the luxury of so many great players
Bale , Ramsey , Allen and Grealish would be such a sold unit
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Clueless prat.
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Southgate, not you.
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Southgate, not you.
Ta!
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been called alot worse !
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been called alot worse !
And I'll bet there wasn't a vowel in sight!
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cytuno dim llafariaid yn y golwg
your right not a vowel in sight - haha
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cytuno dim llafariaid yn y golwg
your right not a vowel in sight - haha
Google Translate can't decode it. I imagine it's shocking, but can't pretend I don't deserve it!
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it's ok nothing to sinister !
my work is done time to dream for a 3-1 win later against Bulgaria
hope it's a better game than the dross i saw earlier in Iceland yesterday
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it's ok nothing to sinister !
my work is done time to dream for a 3-1 win later against Bulgaria
hope it's a better game than the dross i saw earlier in Iceland yesterday
You have a manager that plays his best players, mate.
I'm sure you'll beat Bulgaria!
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Southgate, not you.
The croatia defeat told us that. They sat deep. Playing a skillful ball playing brummie might have made sense. Although ward prowse did a great job protesting the penalty
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Rice, Foden and Sancho were particularly anonymous during the 2 hours of time I wasted yesterday.
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I only watched the highlights ...which is a contradiction in terms of what was shown. So the incidents of note included Ward Prowse trying to scuff up the penalty spot which Roy Keane quite rightly pointed out as cheating and which Ian Wright laughed off as being somehow quite clever if it was a really important game. I thought Wright had turned a corner from the twat he can sometimes be, obviously not. The Sterling penalty, he scored, fair enough but it was an awful penalty. He of all people should never have that job. The game was crying out for a creative player who could make something out of nothing, win a free kick in a dangerous position, someone who could make space for Team mates. England needed someone like that.
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I only watched the highlights ...which is a contradiction in terms of what was shown. So the incidents of note included Ward Prowse trying to scuff up the penalty spot which Roy Keane quite rightly pointed out as cheating and which Ian Wright laughed off as being somehow quite clever if it was a really important game. I thought Wright had turned a corner from the twat he can sometimes be, obviously not. The Sterling penalty, he scored, fair enough but it was an awful penalty. He of all people should never have that job. The game was crying out for a creative player who could make something out of nothing, win a free kick in a dangerous position, someone who could make space for Team mates. England needed someone like that.
james Madison? (Tongue firmly one cheek)
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On a point of law: Ward-Prowse scuffing the penalty spot should have warranted a yellow card, he was making additional markings to the pitch. Can you remember the days when goalkeepers used to make marks on the six-yard line in line with the goalposts? It was supposedly to give them positional awareness. It has always been the law and punishable with a booking.
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I only watched the highlights ...which is a contradiction in terms of what was shown. So the incidents of note included Ward Prowse trying to scuff up the penalty spot which Roy Keane quite rightly pointed out as cheating and which Ian Wright laughed off as being somehow quite clever if it was a really important game. I thought Wright had turned a corner from the twat he can sometimes be, obviously not. The Sterling penalty, he scored, fair enough but it was an awful penalty. He of all people should never have that job. The game was crying out for a creative player who could make something out of nothing, win a free kick in a dangerous position, someone who could make space for Team mates. England needed someone like that.
I love Ian Wright.
And as Danny Baker tweeted: https://twitter.com/prodnose/status/1302383976502435841
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What Ian Wright laughed off as clever is okay because Roy Keane kicked people sometimes during his playing days. I see.
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It's all okay as it's just football. Actually Keane committing GBH wasn't okay, but what can you do.
As for the game, beyond hideous, but that's what happens if you're so risk-averse you play two defensive midfielders against a team with absolutely no intention of leaving their own box.
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Take that you ......
(https://i.ibb.co/0htgpc0/Roy-Keaneatwork.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0htgpc0)
free photo hosting websites (https://imgbb.com/)
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Just put £4 on a 270/1 accumulator for tonight's internationals. Can't see a single reason why I won't win.
Is this outright win markets?
Which matches are they please?
Perhaps France and England but I find tough on others tonight on will be winners?
I don't mind favouring
Gibraltar and Georgia for sure
Buy maybe North Macedonia and Montenegro too but not sure so on many of the nation's league outcomes
Or maybe you back draws or goals ?
Who are the selections 270/1 sounds fun !
Thanks
I got lucky on backing national teams yesterday - Saturday - myyself ! and hope to enjoy a steak meal today ! As well as donating.
I hadn't initially realised the later games of 745pm and had my concentration on the afternoon matches but when I did I added them.
England just won
North Macedonia
Gilbratar
Georgia
And also put in faves of Portugal France and Belgium
That was a good selection if I may so myself!
Where do I donate to h and v it's only fair especially as my request for women's football thread has seemingly been granted
What a great site and admin you are!
Up the Villa
And Montenegro!
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Just put £4 on a 270/1 accumulator for tonight's internationals. Can't see a single reason why I won't win.
Is this outright win markets?
Which matches are they please?
Perhaps France and England but I find tough on others tonight on will be winners?
I don't mind favouring
Gibraltar and Georgia for sure
Buy maybe North Macedonia and Montenegro too but not sure so on many of the nation's league outcomes
Or maybe you back draws or goals ?
Who are the selections 270/1 sounds fun !
Thanks
I got lucky on backing national teams yesterday - Saturday - myyself ! and hope to enjoy a steak meal today ! As well as donating.
I hadn't initially realised the later games of 745pm and had my concentration on the afternoon matches but when I did I added them.
England just won
North Macedonia
Gilbratar
Georgia
And also put in faves of Portugal France and Belgium
That was a good selection if I may so myself!
Where do I donate to h and v it's only fair especially as my request for women's football thread has seemingly been granted
What a great site and admin you are!
Up the Villa
And Montenegro!
Sorry mate, missed your reply. It was all the obvious winners + Scotland and Norway to draw. Only Scotland did and Italy can eff off!
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I so happy I won !
I donated here and there including h and v !
So all aboard.
Hopefully I'll get one of those prestigious things by my name too
Great site Great site !
Up the villa !
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Vill I An you are too good to have those cheap stickers violating your already prestigious and unique posting ID.
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Just put £4 on a 270/1 accumulator for tonight's internationals. Can't see a single reason why I won't win.
Is this outright win markets?
Which matches are they please?
Perhaps France and England but I find tough on others tonight on will be winners?
I don't mind favouring
Gibraltar and Georgia for sure
Buy maybe North Macedonia and Montenegro too but not sure so on many of the nation's league outcomes
Or maybe you back draws or goals ?
Who are the selections 270/1 sounds fun !
Thanks
I got lucky on backing national teams yesterday - Saturday - myyself ! and hope to enjoy a steak meal today ! As well as donating.
I hadn't initially realised the later games of 745pm and had my concentration on the afternoon matches but when I did I added them.
England just won
North Macedonia
Gilbratar
Georgia
And also put in faves of Portugal France and Belgium
That was a good selection if I may so myself!
Where do I donate to h and v it's only fair especially as my request for women's football thread has seemingly been granted
What a great site and admin you are!
Up the Villa
And Montenegro!
its on the front, you can be a Golden Muppet ,
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Just put £4 on a 270/1 accumulator for tonight's internationals. Can't see a single reason why I won't win.
I ended up putting two bets on yesterday.
It would've only been one, but the day's first Clash of the Titans let me down in my 9 game acca. I'd abandoned all common sense and let my heart rule my head when I saw that if I went against the bookies and backed UEFA's lowest ranked side, San Marino, against the penultimately ranked side, Gibraltar, my odds rocketed to over 1000-1. 1-0 to the macaque wranglers. £1.50 I'll never see again.
Or maybe not...
That obviously effed me up still pretty early doors, so I had plenty of time to invest a further sure-fire £1.31 in the 7 later games, only for two second half goals, an OG and a penalty, in the second CotT, Azerbaijan vs Luxembourg, to once again save me from having to think about what to spend my winnings on.
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Any news on the Brentford lineup against Wycombe?
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Any news on the Brentford lineup against Wycombe?
No Watkins or Benrahma
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Ta. Just looked and Maghoma is on the bench for them
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Just put £4 on a 270/1 accumulator for tonight's internationals. Can't see a single reason why I won't win.
I ended up putting two bets on yesterday.
It would've only been one, but the day's first Clash of the Titans let me down in my 9 game acca. I'd abandoned all common sense and let my heart rule my head when I saw that if I went against the bookies and backed UEFA's lowest ranked side, San Marino, against the penultimately ranked side, Gibraltar, my odds rocketed to over 1000-1. 1-0 to the macaque wranglers. £1.50 I'll never see again.
Or maybe not...
That obviously effed me up still pretty early doors, so I had plenty of time to invest a further sure-fire £1.31 in the 7 later games, only for two second half goals, an OG and a penalty, in the second CotT, Azerbaijan vs Luxembourg, to once again save me from having to think about what to spend my winnings on.
So close but yet so far.
Unlucky there.
Good luck for next one.
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Vill I An you are too good to have those cheap stickers violating your already prestigious and unique posting ID.
No one is ever too good !
Enjoy the other games today as I'll get back on topic!
Republic of Ireland v Finland kck off at 5pm
Come on Conor !
Up the Villa.
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Just put £4 on a 270/1 accumulator for tonight's internationals. Can't see a single reason why I won't win.
I ended up putting two bets on yesterday.
It would've only been one, but the day's first Clash of the Titans let me down in my 9 game acca. I'd abandoned all common sense and let my heart rule my head when I saw that if I went against the bookies and backed UEFA's lowest ranked side, San Marino, against the penultimately ranked side, Gibraltar, my odds rocketed to over 1000-1. 1-0 to the macaque wranglers. £1.50 I'll never see again.
Or maybe not...
That obviously effed me up still pretty early doors, so I had plenty of time to invest a further sure-fire £1.31 in the 7 later games, only for two second half goals, an OG and a penalty, in the second CotT, Azerbaijan vs Luxembourg, to once again save me from having to think about what to spend my winnings on.
I copped for a 10/1 fourfold on North Macedonia, Georgia, Belgium and France yesterday. Which was nice.
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Just put £4 on a 270/1 accumulator for tonight's internationals. Can't see a single reason why I won't win.
I ended up putting two bets on yesterday.
It would've only been one, but the day's first Clash of the Titans let me down in my 9 game acca. I'd abandoned all common sense and let my heart rule my head when I saw that if I went against the bookies and backed UEFA's lowest ranked side, San Marino, against the penultimately ranked side, Gibraltar, my odds rocketed to over 1000-1. 1-0 to the macaque wranglers. £1.50 I'll never see again.
Or maybe not...
That obviously effed me up still pretty early doors, so I had plenty of time to invest a further sure-fire £1.31 in the 7 later games, only for two second half goals, an OG and a penalty, in the second CotT, Azerbaijan vs Luxembourg, to once again save me from having to think about what to spend my winnings on.
I copped for a 10/1 fourfold on North Macedonia, Georgia, Belgium and France yesterday. Which was nice.
Lovely results weren't they !
Good luck today if having a go !
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Yaya out of Soccer Aid game, wonder if they'll mention why on the ITV commentary.
Football ace Yaya Toure has been axed from this weekend’s Soccer Aid after offering to hire sex workers for his team-mates.
Married dad Toure, 37, boasted he could bring 19 girls to the side’s five-star hotel in Cheshire.
He also posted a p***ographic video showing a naked woman in a bath in the group WhatApp chat.
It sparked a string of complaints from his appalled team-mates, who included several female players as well as celebrities.
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Yaya out of Soccer Aid game, wonder if they'll mention why on the ITV commentary.
Football ace Yaya Toure has been axed from this weekend’s Soccer Aid after offering to hire sex workers for his team-mates.
Married dad Toure, 37, boasted he could bring 19 girls to the side’s five-star hotel in Cheshire.
He also posted a p***ographic video showing a naked woman in a bath in the group WhatApp chat.
It sparked a string of complaints from his appalled team-mates, who included several female players as well as celebrities.
Am I wrong in thinking this is very funny.
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Why have they censored the word 'pornographic'?
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Yaya out of Soccer Aid game, wonder if they'll mention why on the ITV commentary.
Football ace Yaya Toure has been axed from this weekend’s Soccer Aid after offering to hire sex workers for his team-mates.
Married dad Toure, 37, boasted he could bring 19 girls to the side’s five-star hotel in Cheshire.
He also posted a p***ographic video showing a naked woman in a bath in the group WhatApp chat.
It sparked a string of complaints from his appalled team-mates, who included several female players as well as celebrities.
Am I wrong in thinking this is very funny.
You are not wrong.
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I making my Small donation and hear Gareth Barry taking part in good cause football match soccer aid tonight.
Not a match I'll be following though and will stick to Nations league Switzerland v Germany but good to hear some Villa old players involved
Joe Cole, David James, Heskey along with Barry
Nations League :
Ireland home are 1-0 down to Finland 75 mins played.
Hourihane isn't playing this one Callum Robinson has come on though.
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Why have they censored the word 'pornographic'?
Could also be 'photographic'. The story's from The Sun so maybe they didn't want to offend anyone.
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Yaya out of Soccer Aid game, wonder if they'll mention why on the ITV commentary.
Football ace Yaya Toure has been axed from this weekend’s Soccer Aid after offering to hire sex workers for his team-mates.
Married dad Toure, 37, boasted he could bring 19 girls to the side’s five-star hotel in Cheshire.
He also posted a p***ographic video showing a naked woman in a bath in the group WhatApp chat.
It sparked a string of complaints from his appalled team-mates, who included several female players as well as celebrities.
Am I wrong in thinking this is very funny.
I was thinking what a great team mate he was. No wonder he expected a cake on his birthday when he was at Man City. I bet his idea would have done a lot for team bonding. Maybe even a bit of team bondage too ;)
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Yaya out of Soccer Aid game, wonder if they'll mention why on the ITV commentary.
Football ace Yaya Toure has been axed from this weekend’s Soccer Aid after offering to hire sex workers for his team-mates.
Married dad Toure, 37, boasted he could bring 19 girls to the side’s five-star hotel in Cheshire.
Yaya was simply trying to ensure some earning opportunities for these workers as they have suffered greatly during the lockdown.
He also posted a p***ographic video showing a naked woman in a bath in the group WhatApp chat.
Yaya was pointing out that good personal hygiene standards should be maintained including regular baths.
It sparked a string of complaints from his appalled team-mates, who included several female players as well as celebrities.
I am not his official spokesperson but I have tried to clear up some misconceptions.
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Theme songs when players come on, flashing lights on the goal posts when the ball goes in the net, must have atleast 2 women on the pitch at any time, half time shows. This is a preview to the Premier League in the next couple of years.
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Yaya out of Soccer Aid game, wonder if they'll mention why on the ITV commentary.
Football ace Yaya Toure has been axed from this weekend’s Soccer Aid after offering to hire sex workers for his team-mates.
Married dad Toure, 37, boasted he could bring 19 girls to the side’s five-star hotel in Cheshire.
Yaya was simply trying to ensure some earning opportunities for these workers as they have suffered greatly during the lockdown.
He also posted a p***ographic video showing a naked woman in a bath in the group WhatApp chat.
Yaya was pointing out that good personal hygiene standards should be maintained including regular baths.
It sparked a string of complaints from his appalled team-mates, who included several female players as well as celebrities.
I am not his official spokesperson but I have tried to clear up some misconceptions.
Ah that makes sense, his team-mates were appalled that he was implying they had poor hygiene.
It tickles me that he suggested bringing 19 girls not a round 20 although if he had mentioned a "score" he'd likely be in even more trouble.
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I imagine that's the sort of behaviour that's seen as normal and every day where Premier League footballer WhatsApp chats are concerned, he just forgot he had a slightly different audience for the charity match!
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Theme songs when players come on, flashing lights on the goal posts when the ball goes in the net, must have atleast 2 women on the pitch at any time, half time shows. This is a preview to the Premier League in the next couple of years.
The Carabo Cup should happily take that as a format. Like a 20/20 format of cricket.
Get rolling subs and a celebrity social media star coach in to harbour interest across all channels.
Be too much outrage if FA cup did so.
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No thank you.
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It just needs a bit of tweaking. Have a supporter picked at random to do the coaching. They'd have to have suitable experience, though, perhaps running a team themselves. And they'd need to know how to lecture people, so maybe they could be a teacher as well. Then we could also have them in charge of the flashing lights.
So, a teacher who runs football teams and could mess around with electricity. That sounds a winner to me.
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Perhaps Top Deck or Thick Mike would be interested?
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It just needs a bit of tweaking. Have a supporter picked at random to do the coaching. They'd have to have suitable experience, though, perhaps running a team themselves. And they'd need to know how to lecture people, so maybe they could be a teacher as well. Then we could also have them in charge of the flashing lights.
So, a teacher who runs football teams and could mess around with electricity. That sounds a winner to me.
Sounds like it would be fraught with risk and knowing us we would get someone who is accident prone and has immense amounts of bad luck.
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It just needs a bit of tweaking. Have a supporter picked at random to do the coaching. They'd have to have suitable experience, though, perhaps running a team themselves. And they'd need to know how to lecture people, so maybe they could be a teacher as well. Then we could also have them in charge of the flashing lights.
So, a teacher who runs football teams and could mess around with electricity. That sounds a winner to me.
Sounds like it would be fraught with risk and knowing us we would get someone who is accident prone and has immense amounts of bad luck.
A connection with one of the younger players would also help.
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The Yaya Toure Marketing Board strikes again: https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/1302923477977108480
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They weren't the only youngsters scoring yesterday. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54051071
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The Yaya Toure Marketing Board strikes again: https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/1302923477977108480
Fair play, the other England players have clearly realised they're all inferior to Jack so seem to have decided between them to force Southgate into picking him.
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The Yaya Toure Marketing Board strikes again: https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/1302923477977108480
Fair play, the other England players have clearly realised they're all inferior to Jack so seem to have decided between them to force Southgate into picking him.
Coming to an England team near you. Jordan Pickford on the wing.
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The Yaya Toure Marketing Board strikes again: https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/1302923477977108480
Fair play, the other England players have clearly realised they're all inferior to Jack so seem to have decided between them to force Southgate into picking him.
Coming to an England team near you. Jordan Pickford on the wing.
"We feel that Jack's best position is in goal thanks to his Gaelic football days, and I just felt Jordan was a better fit for the wide role"
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The Yaya Toure Marketing Board strikes again: https://twitter.com/MiguelDelaney/status/1302923477977108480
I like one of the comments on there - bring on the Iceland 2040 team, featuring Masonsson and Philsson.
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Ha!
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From some stuff circulating on social media it appears that these lads were massively set up. Silly boys but they are very young and I hope they will learn from this episode and not grow up to be like Yaya.
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From some stuff circulating on social media it appears that these lads were massively set up. Silly boys but they are very young and I hope they will learn from this episode and not grow up to be like Yaya.
The pictures made me laugh, both of them say their on their phones after inviting girls back to their room. Kids, eh?
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I've decided to be more realistic with tonight's accumulator. I measly 105/1, and a reduced stake of £2. Still though, it's guaranteed at that level.
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Josh king played last 20 or so mins for Norway in the 5-1 away win in northern Ireland
Is he Norwegian? Well I never!
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Is he Norwegian? Well I never!
Who?
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Josh King?
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Josh King?
at
Is he?
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Josh King?
Really?
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I'm lost.
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Josh king played last 20 or so mins for Norway in the 5-1 away win in northern Ireland
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Håland is my favourite current 'star of tomorrow' in football. The guy likes goals so much it's almost like he's got a problem.
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From some stuff circulating on social media it appears that these lads were massively set up. Silly boys but they are very young and I hope they will learn from this episode and not grow up to be like Yaya.
The pictures made me laugh, both of them say their on their phones after inviting girls back to their room. Kids, eh?
Greenwood was asking his mum "mum what do I do now?".
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I know Scotland are awful but I am getting concerned about John McGinn as he has been very disappointing.
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Aftab, hope he improves as this doesn't have the same ring to it.
We've got McGinn, average John McGinn
We're all at a loss to understand,
He was Dean Smith's man,
Now he's worse than Grant McCann,
We've got average John McGinn.
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Aftab, hope he improves as this doesn't have the same ring to it.
We've got McGinn, average John McGinn
We're all at a loss to understand,
He was Dean Smith's man,
Now he's worse than Grant McCann,
We've got average John McGinn.
Gavin McCann? Unless you deliberately used the Hull City manager, which would be a bit bizarre! ;)
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Gavin McCann? Unless you deliberately used the Hull City manager, which would be a bit bizarre! ;)
No, definitely meant Grant as he was poorer and it scans better. We get BBC NI and UTV (not the worst abbreviation) here in Ireland so Grant came to mind first.
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Fair enough!
Apropos nothing at all other than it rhymes with McCann, one of the lads I play football with is a fairly short, Indian guy called Meidan. He's pretty skilful, so his nickname is Minidene Meidan
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Håland is my favourite current 'star of tomorrow' in football. The guy likes goals so much it's almost like he's got a problem.
No doubt the press will link him to United as they always do with any decent young player
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Apropos nothing at all other than it rhymes with McCann, one of the lads I play football with is a fairly short, Indian guy called Meidan. He's pretty skilful, so his nickname is Minidene Meidan
Very good, he clearly doesn't go missing in games or else his nickname would Madeleine.
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Apropos nothing at all other than it rhymes with McCann, one of the lads I play football with is a fairly short, Indian guy called Meidan. He's pretty skilful, so his nickname is Minidene Meidan
Very good, he clearly doesn't go missing in games or else his nickname would Madeleine.
I feel very guilty for laughing out loud.
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Apropos nothing at all other than it rhymes with McCann, one of the lads I play football with is a fairly short, Indian guy called Meidan. He's pretty skilful, so his nickname is Minidene Meidan
Very good, he clearly doesn't go missing in games or else his nickname would Madeleine.
Excellent.
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Jack on the bench again tonight
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I’ll definitely be watching England cricket rather than England football tonight.
Southgate is a fucking idiot.
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I'm following the U23s.
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Apropos nothing at all other than it rhymes with McCann, one of the lads I play football with is a fairly short, Indian guy called Meidan. He's pretty skilful, so his nickname is Minidene Meidan
Very good, he clearly doesn't go missing in games or else his nickname would Madeleine.
Not sure if we sang
We’ve got McGann
Madeleine McGann
Would go down too well
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Philips and Rice in midfield. Fucking hell.
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Philips and Rice in midfield. Fucking hell.
Southgate can change things up. 7-0-3 Is very different, to be fair.
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If I was a journalist I would ask," 3 central defenders,2 defensive midfielders,2 wing backs of which one is a right full back playing on the left,no creative midfielders,2 attacking wide players..one or both asked to fill in midfield..what's the thinking behind that,Gareth ?"
Jack has no international career with blind Gareth.
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I'd ask is Eric Dier really a better centre back than Tyrone Mings, Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski ?
( and I think he looks like odd bod from carry on screaming.)
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I'd ask is Eric Dier really a better centre back than Tyrone Mings, Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski ?
( and I think he looks like odd bod from carry on screaming.)
You’ve got the carry on screaming reference spot on.
I’d suggest that odd bod was quicker though.
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I'd ask is Eric Dier really a better centre back than Tyrone Mings, Lewis Dunk and James Tarkowski ?
( and I think he looks like odd bod from carry on screaming.)
Exactly why I saying Konsa will be England squad and team if not mIngs and Hause by next summer.
Should be because they are better than those lot for me and as a unit solid.
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Southgate, you melt. Spineless can opener.
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Neville couldnt understand why Mings wasnt in the side.
Perhaps its not just about Jack.
Perhaps Gareth thinks they should both leave and go to a big club like Middlesboro.
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Im going to represent the multi-dimensionality of the england midfield thus :
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Maybe it’s stage fright or maybe Phillips actually is shit.
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englands only chance when defender completely bypasses midfield and hoofs it to the wing terence trent darby
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Maybe it’s stage fright or maybe Phillips actually is shit.
Well, at least you gave him 18 minutes.
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What a surprise England’s midfield unable to get into the game.
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englands only chance when defender completely bypasses midfield and hoofs it to the wing terence trent darby
Introducing the touchline according to....
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What a surprise England’s midfield unable to get into the game.
Yeah no one saw that playing a defensive midfield would cause a link up problem with the attacking front three.
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Not watching the game, but formation looked like 7-0-3
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is it just me or is this game even more boring than the last one
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From the Guardian live feed:
"19 mins: A shot! Kasper Dolberg takes it from 18 yards or so, but the ball just clears the bar. Denmark won the ball after a long spell of England possession in which England at no stage looked to have any clue what to do with the ball except pass it to central defenders, or occasionally play it short to a midfielder who would then pass it to a central defender"
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Maybe it’s stage fright or maybe Phillips actually is shit.
Well, at least you gave him 18 minutes.
During which time he had the ball 4 times and gave it away 3 times.
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Pretty sure Pirlo was able to play a forward pass
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Not watching the game, but formation looked like 7-0-3
Englands performance is very beige.
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About 90% of our attempts to start an attack have been hoofs out to alexander-arnold.
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I imagine it's a very exciting game.
Wish I'd paid for it.
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I am shocked that two holding midfilders that can only pass forwards, are struggling to create anything.
Total and utter fucking shite.
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We're looking just as hopeless as we did against Iceland. It's like watching us last season pre lockdown. Seems tailor made for Jack to come on and spark something just as it was in the last game. I'm not holding my breath though.
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I imagine it's a very exciting game.
Wish I'd paid for it.
Whatever you imagined looking at the teamsheet it's every bit as dull as you expected.
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is it just me or is this game even more boring than the last one
I’m with you there...awful
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Philips proving Southgate right. You need Premier League experience, he's been woeful.
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To say we're lacking spark would be putting it mildly. It's been pretty bad. There was one good long ball from Coady to Alexander-Arnold (who miscontrolled it) and that's all I can remember, apart from a couple of fierce Norway efforts.
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Co-commentator Alan Smith saying England need someone like Grealish or Mount on the pitch.
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Philips proving Southgate right. You need Premier League experience, he's been woeful.
Games past the yorkshire pirlo by.
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Co-commentator Alan Smith saying England need someone like Grealish or Mount on the pitch.
guess which one it will be.
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Should have buried that, Dier humbled.
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Co-commentator Alan Smith saying England need someone like Grealish or Mount on the pitch.
guess which one it will be.
Chris Waddle on 5Live now saying Grealish should come on sooner rather than later.
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Southgate making Steve Bruce look like Kevin Keegan with this defensive show
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Playing into Jack’s hands. Stay sitting.
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I’m hoping Denmark score, just to see what old conkface does about it.
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Load of rubbish so far
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As poor a half from England as I've seen for a while, turgid bullshit.
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but gareth sees jack as a winger apparently, so mount will come on
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Posted at 20:2420:24
'Waiting for things to liven up'
Denmark 0-0 England
Chris Waddle
Ex-Tottenham and England winger on BBC Radio 5 Live
It is poor. We keep waiting and hoping that it's going to liven up, this game, but it hasn't.
Both teams in possession have been very poor. As soon as they look to play a forward pass over the halfway line, it's a problem.
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If I was Grealish I would hope not to come on.
Mount will add fuck all to this set up.
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Really really poor. Dismally poor.
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Breathtakingly poor. So ponderous, lateral and thoroughly devoid of any penetration. Not a player willing to commit an opponent, not a player capable of making a killer pass.
And so utterly predictable. Southgate looks every inch the donkey he was at Boro.
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Breathtakingly poor. So ponderous, lateral and thoroughly devoid of any penetration. Not a player willing to commit an opponent, not a player capable of making a killer pass.
And so utterly predictable. Southgate looks every inch the donkey he was at Boro.
Completely agree.
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Breathtakingly poor. So ponderous, lateral and thoroughly devoid of any penetration. Not a player willing to commit an opponent, not a player capable of making a killer pass.
And so utterly predictable. Southgate looks every inch the donkey he was at Boro.
Mind you, surely nobody could have predicted this when looking at the teamsheet?
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Co-commentator Alan Smith saying England need someone like Grealish or Mount on the pitch.
guess which one it will be.
Chris Waddle on 5Live now saying Grealish should come on sooner rather than later.
Yet last night claimed he shouldn't be in the starting line up, the humpty backed, mullet headed Diamond Lights twat.
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So Gareth one shot and it was not on target. Well played.
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Southgate is ruining what is quite a promising England squad.
The boring bastard.
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It actually takes some doing to get this group of talent playing so badly. The team reflect their manager. He deserves all the stick he’s getting.
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Southgate is frozen rigid in negativity.
Dier, Rice and Phillips in the same side?
It’s boring garbage.
For gods sake do something Partridge you wanker.
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So neither Carragher or Neville are brave enough to say Jack should be on. Has Southgate refused to talk to the press if they question him?
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Sack Southgate, arrogant twat!
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So neither Carragher or Neville are brave enough to say Jack should be on. Has Southgate refused to talk to the press if they question him?
Carragher did mention that Tyrone should be on in place of Dier, but then again, I should be on instead of Dier.
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Southgate is frozen rigid in negativity.
Dier, Rice and Phillips in the same side?
It’s boring garbage.
For gods sake do something Partridge you wanker.
Cock. Piss. Southgate.
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Games crying out for another holding midfielder in my view
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Why is English football so bloody conservative?
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Dier, Rice and Phillips in the same side?
That's so negative.
It's like when McLeish used Warnock, Clark and Herd in midfield.
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Why is English football so bloody conservative?
English managers I’m afraid
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Why is English football so bloody conservative?
I thought the first half was laboured.
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Southgate should try something different, like resigning.
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What do we reckon - 10 minutes for Jack and then say he didn't make the most of his opportunity?
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Crossfield ball to Alexander-Arnold, he puts the cross in, there's only Kane in the area. FFS
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Finally changes. The two hookers are warming up.
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Why is English football so bloody conservative?
English managers I’m afraid
And when we have some decent players for a change
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Southgate is a fool.
As we can all see from that first half display he has picked a really poor formation and personnel to play against Denmark. In each phase of attacking or defending play we are guaranteed to be at least 2 people down because of the formation and the people selected to start.
When we have the ball the fact that we are playing 3 across the back means none of them are willing to step out of line so the ball goes back and forth. The two central midfielders are so devoid of passing and creative skills (like taking someone on and beating them, for example) that it is left to the 2 wide midfielders/wing-backs to link play. Which is very difficult because the 3 forwards are sticking rigidly in line well up the pitch. The result is plenty of possession to those back five but none more forward of this.
When we don't have the ball the 2 wide fowards press high and are bypasssed so easily it leaves us light in the centre of the park. And because the wingbacks/wide midfielders are sticking to their sidelines we leave a gaping hole for the Danish midfield to hold the ball without pressure in the centre of the park (Rice and Phillips are defensive midfielders and default to sitting deeply, too deeply) which means the Danish midfielders with the ball have time to pick their front runners easily and rush up in support for knockdowns, one-two's etc. Which also means that rather than having the play in front of them, our majestic defensive midfielders are spending half their time turning and chasing back because the play has already gone passed them.
It's a strategic and formation nightmare of catastrophic proportions. Even Smudger, the politist and most Establishment person on the planet felt compelled to state that England needed more creativity in midfield; someone to hold the ball, create a through pass in the middle or beat someone with skill. If even he can see that obviously it cannot have escaped the whole coaching staff of England.
Which only makes you think that Southgate is doing what he is doing SOLELY to make a point to Mings and Jack. Which makes him a fool. It also makes him an utter ******, to my mind.
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Crossfield ball to Alexander-Arnold, he puts the cross in, there's only Kane in the area. FFS
That's the only tactic, it's pathetic.
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I hope Jack comes on, scores and gives it the full Tony Morley to the bench.
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Gareth should really consider manufacturing a matching tie and blazer badge set.
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Just bring Grealish on ffs
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I hope Jack comes on, scores and gives it the full Tony Morley to the bench.
Haha yes that would certainly make my week!
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Here comes Gre.....oh its Mason mount.
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He’s bringing mount on its so fcuking predictable
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Oh fuck off Southgate, fucking bellend.
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Mount on....
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And the sub is Mount fucking predictable
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Haha who didn't see Mount coming. Another straight line running winger. Exactly what we need.
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Mount on first eh - obviously because Jack isn't a midfield where Mount. Oops but then Mount has replaced one of Jack's "rivals" as a forward. What a tosser!
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And just as we thought it's Mount. So predictable. Southgate really is an utter twat.
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It is so predictable. Southgate is completely out of his depth.
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Not got a problem with Grealish, has he?
What a snide, brown nose t**t.
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Fcuk it, I’m supporting Denmark.
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I hope Jack is enjoying the experience because this is as close he’ll get to playing for England with our Gareth in charge.
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Mount playing in the number 10 role with sterling playing central with Kane
Can't see Grealish coming on now
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The problem is Jack doesnt play for a big club like West Ham, Wolves or Leeds.
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I am actually at that stage with wanting them to lose. It’s not just because of grealish. It’s because of decisions like playing a midfielder with no PL experience because he plays for an overhyped club in Yorkshire, and that he plays him alongside Rice. That he plays a right footed limited journeyman on the left of a three when it’s so obvious a natural left footed player would be more effective. And the way he talks in such a pseudo technical way when in fact he’s as shit as he was in club management the horse faced waist coated twat.
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3-4-1-2 I think
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im predicting Tammy on next
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Mount is NOT a No 10. unbelievable!
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im predicting Tammy on next
Probably Ward-Prowse. For Kane.
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At least I've lost my stream so I can't watch this pile of festering catshit any longer.
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Knock me down with a feather. Watch him get sent off.
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If I was Jack id be attending next Villa training dressed as a leprechaun.
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Wtf
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I’m supporting England again.
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Which only makes you think that Southgate is doing what he is doing SOLELY to make a point to Mings and Jack.
That is the most ludicrous suggestion I've seen here, and that includes the 'we should sign Jermaine Beckford' stuff.
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Blimey Jack co.ing on. Shit, lost the stream.
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Ball doesn't go out now until the final whistle.
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You’ve lost half your keyboard on.
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Why is English football so bloody conservative?
English managers I’m afraid
Wasn't so great with non-English managers either.
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Ball doesn't go out now until the final whistle.
Haha
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Hooray!
Come on Jack!
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The Yorkshire puddings off.
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still 3-4-1-2
Jack in the number 10 role, mount dropping into midfield
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Jacks done nothing so far.
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Boots seem to slip when changing direction
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Gooo on Son!
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Belgium struggling against very well organised determined Icelanders.
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Fuck me, that's more like it! Thats' the kind of thing that lifts the team and the supporters. We almost never see it from England, apart from Sterling. Go on Jack!
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Stream back on
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We certainly look better going forward now. In that we are going forward now.
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I was just hoping one of those corners would fall to the edge of the box.
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Jack has had 4 positive contributions with his 4 touches. Imagine if he’d have had a half.
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No chance for Kack to shine but probably long enough for Southgate to find fault!
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he deserves longer than that. did more than sancho did.
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They improved, eventually. Nice little cameo from Jack. Coady was decent. Phillips improved a bit. But for most of that game we looked genuinely hopeless.
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Not a lot makes my blood pressure shoot up, but Southgate has done it.
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he deserves longer than that. did more than sancho did.
Yep, Waddle was critical of Sancho and was desperate for Jack to come on.
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A few times Jack was looking for the ball short but it was launched long. Looks like he will have to learn how to play hoofball
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Who would have thought that a midfield containing holding midfielders wouldn't have a clue going forward. Terrible selection by wanker Southgate. He just doesn't rate Grealish. Well I just don't rate Southgate.
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A few times Jack was looking for the ball short but it was launched long. Looks like he will have to learn how to play hoofball
You mean as opposed to the silky, intricate, pass-fest he plays at the Villa?
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No chance for Kack to shine but probably long enough for Southgate to find fault!
Is that the same as polishing turds?
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Southgate is a dire manager.
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Southgate is a dire manager.
Outrageous that he got the job.
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Is Cody talking backwards??
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I think Coady did ok, some of his long range passing very good. As for Southgate one word useless.
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What was the point of Dier? Really??
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I’m pleased for Cody forget the wolves crap. But I’m sick of the same old failures getting the games.
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What was the point of Dier? Really??
Because Southgate is a Dier manager
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Southgate has just said they’ve had ten pullouts for various reasons. Surely a play on words.
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wales up next next month at wembley
surely Grealish will get some game time then ?? after all it's only a friendly
will be interesting how he sets up his team against us
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I’m pleased for Cody forget the wolves crap. But I’m sick of the same old failures getting the games.
Yes he played well.
Oh yes it’s stability Southgate.
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The sky reporter fair play to him has just challenged Southgate on playing Rice and Phillips together he garbled out some absolute bollocks. More astonishingly when challenged about not playing a left sided player on the left his reply ‘ I keep hearing this but where is this player?!’ He’s clueless.
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Jack made the England forward line come alive in a dreadful game.
Stop playing 7-0-3, Gareth.
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I don’t like the way Grealish is being treated but Southgate hasn’t become a bad manager or bloke overnight. He has twok major semi-finals on his CV - better than any predecessor since 1996.
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All the PR bollocks is falling away and Southgate is being exposed for the third rate manager he has always been.
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I don’t like the way Grealish is being treated but Southgate hasn’t become a bad manager or bloke overnight. He has twok major semi-finals on his CV - better than any predecessor since 1996.
Everyone knows that was the most kind draw.
He has no right being the England manager. His club record is appalling.
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I don’t like the way Grealish is being treated but Southgate hasn’t become a bad manager or bloke overnight. He has twok major semi-finals on his CV - better than any predecessor since 1996.
Everyone knows that was the most kind draw.
He has no right being the England manager,p. His club record is appalling.
Who should it be?
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His two semi finals accolade only tells you how bad the other managers were before him.
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His two semi finals accolade only tells you how bad the other managers were before him.
It probably tells us that one of the competitions didn't exist before he became manager.
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Southgate won the under 21 toulon tournament for England first time in 22 years.
Grealish was in the squad.
Hardly a poor feat
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Well the incentive is there now for Jack to tear it up in the league to put Southgate in a situation where he has to pick him.
That’s got to be good for us.
Loved the match comments btw.
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His two semi finals accolade only tells you how bad the other managers were before him.
It probably tells us that one of the competitions didn't exist before he became manager.
Haha.
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I don’t like the way Grealish is being treated but Southgate hasn’t become a bad manager or bloke overnight. He has twok major semi-finals on his CV - better than any predecessor since 1996.
Everyone knows that was the most kind draw.
He has no right being the England manager,p. His club record is appalling.
Who should it be?
Eddie Howe for me.
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As others have said Chris Wilder.
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No England player created more chances from open play than Jack Grealish tonight. Only Trent Alexander-Arnold completed more dribbles.
Jack Grealish played 14 minutes. #AVFC
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He didn’t create any chances did he?
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He set up Kanes chance?
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The header? Thought that was Trippier.
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Oh the one where he hit it well wide.
I still count Trippier as setting up Kane twice for misses.
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Southgate won the under 21 toulon tournament for England first time in 22 years.
Grealish was in the squad.
Hardly a poor feat
Winning the toulon tournament with the squad he had wasn't anything like the massive achievement you're suggesting.
The structure meant the only decent teams we came up against were portugal and france and our squad of mostly 21-22 year olds were significantly more experienced than both of them. Interestingly we now have 3 members of that team playing for us with Targett and Hause joining Grealish. If the links to Swift ever come to anything that'll be 4 and many people on here would be interested in Loftus-Cheek and Chalobah as well.
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I think I heard correctly in his post match interview that Southgate hailed these two games as a huge success.
Words such as stability, foundation, solid. All words that he said.
It’s greyscale at best with the ever so rare dash of colour, i.e that last 25 minutes out of 3 hours of football.
He can point to all of the excuses under the sun but to be so mind numbingly defensive in his approach is going to frustrate supporters and players alike.
Maybe we’ll just bore opposition into submission?
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It was a shite team, a shite performance, and England only looked dangerous when Jack came on. The end.
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Won't be long before there's calls for Eddie Howe to get the job.
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Is it worth starting a premier league - season 20/21 thread ?? May I ask
This is it!
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You have been here long enough to know Villa match threads are separate but everything else is lumped here (Of on the "here's a laff" threads in other football).
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That Watford kit. Jesus Christ.
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On the other hand at least you can watch Watford tonight without having to worry about them winning.
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Great point!
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That Watford kit. Jesus Christ.
Black and yellow aren't the easiest colours to work with but that is truly awful and screams tinpot kit supplier. Last year's Adidas half and half effort wasn't at all bad especially in comparison to that.
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I had forgotten how bad championship football is.
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This game has been absolutely dreadful. Really wish I hadn’t bothered.
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I didn’t watch the first half but Boro were by far the better team in the second half, a draw would have been a fairer result.
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I had forgotten how bad championship football is.
that;s quite an observation after only 1 game
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I had forgotten how bad championship football is.
that;s quite an observation after only 1 game
I’m referring to our time in it as well Dinas. At the time I thought we were playing like Brazil 1970 looking back we were playing like a bra.
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I had forgotten how bad championship football is.
that;s quite an observation after only 1 game
I’m referring to our time in it as well Dinas. At the time I thought we were playing like Brazil 1970 looking back we were playing like a bra.
its all relative at the end of the day . quite happy in the championship at least we ain't got Warnocks hoof ball to contend with these days so that;s a bonus :)
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I think Championship football is normally pretty exhilarating* if you've got skin in the game. I've never really watched too much of it when I haven't.
*Steve Bruce notwithstanding.
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Best of luck for the season Dinas.
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Best of luck for the season Dinas.
cheers but the sad thing is it will might be a season when we won't be able to see a single live game with all this covid thing hanging over our heads . was looking forward to our trip to brum to watch the mighty coventry city too .!
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Best of luck for the season Dinas.
cheers but the sad thing is it will might be a season when we won't be able to see a single live game with all this covid thing hanging over our heads . was looking forward to our trip to brum to watch the mighty coventry city too .!
Covid's done you a favour then. St. Andrew's that is, not Brum.
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Best of luck for the season Dinas.
cheers but the sad thing is it will might be a season when we won't be able to see a single live game with all this covid thing hanging over our heads . was looking forward to our trip to brum to watch the mighty coventry city too .!
Covid's done you a favour then. St. Andrew's that is, not Brum.
my fav wetherspoons in Adcocks Green will be losing alot of trade as well :)
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Watford must have 100 players on their books. I looked at their line up and knew about 4 players.
They'd easily win the league if they keep all of Deeney, Sarr, Welbeck, Delefeou. Not a bad win for their B team as Boro will be around play offs you'd imagine.
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Best of luck for the season Dinas.
cheers but the sad thing is it will might be a season when we won't be able to see a single live game with all this covid thing hanging over our heads . was looking forward to our trip to brum to watch the mighty coventry city too .!
Covid's done you a favour then. St. Andrew's that is, not Brum.
my fav wetherspoons in Adcocks Green will be losing alot of trade as well :)
Blimey that’ll be The Spreadeagle. I don’t live far from there. Not the most salubrious. Wethies though. They are what they are.
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I had forgotten how bad championship football is.
that;s quite an observation after only 1 game
I’m referring to our time in it as well Dinas. At the time I thought we were playing like Brazil 1970 looking back we were playing like a bra.
its all relative at the end of the day . quite happy in the championship at least we ain't got Warnocks hoof ball to contend with these days so that;s a bonus :)
How quickly we forget and dismiss legends of the club eh.....? (wink).
Dosen't Neil Harris play pretty much exactly the same way? His Millwall side were also very direct v us and got some good results when we played them.
Watching the Fulham second leg you were just launching long throws into their box constantly which did cause Fulham lots of issues.
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Best of luck for the season Dinas.
cheers but the sad thing is it will might be a season when we won't be able to see a single live game with all this covid thing hanging over our heads . was looking forward to our trip to brum to watch the mighty coventry city too .!
Covid's done you a favour then. St. Andrew's that is, not Brum.
my fav wetherspoons in Adcocks Green will be losing alot of trade as well :)
Blimey that’ll be The Spreadeagle. I don’t live far from there. Not the most salubrious. Wethies though. They are what they are.
was up that way last August and did a pub crawl around adcock green villlage when i visited a friend who lives in South Yardley near the swan island . seemed to be a more blues area around that patch
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I had forgotten how bad championship football is.
that;s quite an observation after only 1 game
I’m referring to our time in it as well Dinas. At the time I thought we were playing like Brazil 1970 looking back we were playing like a bra.
its all relative at the end of the day . quite happy in the championship at least we ain't got Warnocks hoof ball to contend with these days so that;s a bonus :)
How quickly we forget and dismiss legends of the club eh.....? (wink).
Dosen't Neil Harris play pretty much exactly the same way? His Millwall side were also very direct v us and got some good results when we played them.
Watching the Fulham second leg you were just launching long throws into their box constantly which did cause Fulham lots of issues.
with almost the same players what do you expect . Hopefully we will change to a more passing game this season
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Best of luck for the season Dinas.
cheers but the sad thing is it will might be a season when we won't be able to see a single live game with all this covid thing hanging over our heads . was looking forward to our trip to brum to watch the mighty coventry city too .!
Covid's done you a favour then. St. Andrew's that is, not Brum.
my fav wetherspoons in Adcocks Green will be losing alot of trade as well :)
Blimey that’ll be The Spreadeagle. I don’t live far from there. Not the most salubrious. Wethies though. They are what they are.
was up that way last August and did a pub crawl around adcock green villlage when i visited a friend who lives in South Yardley near the swan island . seemed to be a more blues area around that patch
Unfortunately it is one of their few remaining ‘strong’holds.
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Best of luck for the season Dinas.
cheers but the sad thing is it will might be a season when we won't be able to see a single live game with all this covid thing hanging over our heads . was looking forward to our trip to brum to watch the mighty coventry city too .!
Covid's done you a favour then. St. Andrew's that is, not Brum.
my fav wetherspoons in Adcocks Green will be losing alot of trade as well :)
Blimey that’ll be The Spreadeagle. I don’t live far from there. Not the most salubrious. Wethies though. They are what they are.
was up that way last August and did a pub crawl around adcock green villlage when i visited a friend who lives in South Yardley near the swan island . seemed to be a more blues area around that patch
Unfortunately it is one of their few remaining ‘strong’holds.
couldn't imagine our city having 2 sides with another couple on your doorstep . villa , brum . walsall , wolves , west brom , solihull moors and even coventry up the road
then again the west midlands have a population of around 3 million the same as the whole of Wales !! yes i know we have alot more sheep before the jokes comes flooding in :)
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How’s life been without all the leisure centres being open?!
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You have been here long enough to know Villa match threads are separate but everything else is lumped here (Of on the "here's a laff" threads in other football).
But look at all this stuff have to trawl through !
Premier league season thread would make perfect sense.
Allows for discussion and debate on Premier league matters.
I mean with have VAR thread.
I like it when complex issues are solved simply .
So simply having a premier league discussion section could be a good idea for all concerned.
We can keep other games. But 'games' says to me other sports ! Really it should be called other matches. Or matches non villa .
Something which is nt confusing.
Has the Cardiff chat been distracting from all the Premier League stuff that we could have been talking about?
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And he wonders why people try not to see his posts.
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if championship chat is not your scene i will but out no worrys and leave you to prem talk
if so will pop over next month when england play wales !
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You have been here long enough to know Villa match threads are separate but everything else is lumped here (Of on the "here's a laff" threads in other football).
But look at all this stuff have to trawl through !
Premier league season thread would make perfect sense.
Allows for discussion and debate on Premier league matters.
I mean with have VAR thread.
I like it when complex issues are solved simply .
So simply having a premier league discussion section could be a good idea for all concerned.
We can keep other games. But 'games' says to me other sports ! Really it should be called other matches. Or matches non villa .
Something which is nt confusing.
No. Accept it.
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if championship chat is not your scene i will but out no worrys and leave you to prem talk
if so will pop over next month when england play wales !
He wasn't referring to you boyo!
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if championship chat is not your scene i will but out no worrys and leave you to prem talk
if so will pop over next month when england play wales !
He wasn't referring to you boyo!
No of course not talk away!
More than welcome !
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I had forgotten how bad championship football is.
that;s quite an observation after only 1 game
I’m referring to our time in it as well Dinas. At the time I thought we were playing like Brazil 1970 looking back we were playing like a bra.
its all relative at the end of the day . quite happy in the championship at least we ain't got Warnocks hoof ball to contend with these days so that;s a bonus :)
How quickly we forget and dismiss legends of the club eh.....? (wink).
Dosen't Neil Harris play pretty much exactly the same way? His Millwall side were also very direct v us and got some good results when we played them.
Watching the Fulham second leg you were just launching long throws into their box constantly which did cause Fulham lots of issues.
with almost the same players what do you expect . Hopefully we will change to a more passing game this season
I'd be surprised although that's not to say Harris isn't a good manager in the championship as he showed in the half season with you.
Surprised you sold Etheridge to SHA btw.
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if championship chat is not your scene i will but out no worrys and leave you to prem talk
if so will pop over next month when england play wales !
He wasn't referring to you boyo!
No of course not talk away!
More than welcome !
ok thought i was being singled out for talking anything but villa and talking lower league stuff to you
the subject matter is other games i hardly ever post on other threads
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if championship chat is not your scene i will but out no worrys and leave you to prem talk
if so will pop over next month when england play wales !
Stay right where you are Dinas. You’re welcome here anytime! Eventually I’ll get you to admit being seen in the Square Peg!
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And he wonders why people try not to see his posts.
Well yes quite and sometimes being the soothsayer is just like being a soothsayer and warning Julius Caesar beware of the ides of march !
It's a new Premier league season . Villa retained status a fitting tribute would be a Premier league section.
Up the Villa.
Or we could just carry on with what has worked incredibly successfully for years and years. Not sure what a make of cat food has got to do with it anyway.
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I had forgotten how bad championship football is.
that;s quite an observation after only 1 game
I’m referring to our time in it as well Dinas. At the time I thought we were playing like Brazil 1970 looking back we were playing like a bra.
its all relative at the end of the day . quite happy in the championship at least we ain't got Warnocks hoof ball to contend with these days so that;s a bonus :)
How quickly we forget and dismiss legends of the club eh.....? (wink).
Dosen't Neil Harris play pretty much exactly the same way? His Millwall side were also very direct v us and got some good results when we played them.
Watching the Fulham second leg you were just launching long throws into their box constantly which did cause Fulham lots of issues.
with almost the same players what do you expect . Hopefully we will change to a more passing game this season
I'd be surprised although that's not to say Harris isn't a good manager in the championship as he showed in the half season with you.
Surprised you sold Etheridge to SHA btw.
Not surprised at all was frozen out last season as smithies was number 1 for the best part of last season
Not sure if news has trickled through but Mendez Lang who i rate very highly has been sacked from our club . its all very suspect at the minute why but so many rumours circulating at the minute in south wales . wouldn't want to put on a public message board but what i,m hearing it's not good
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Wasn't he involved in some kind of underground fighting ring? Or is that just Twitter nonsense?
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Wasn't he involved in some kind of underground fighting ring? Or is that just Twitter nonsense?
axl rose best to leave it to the authorities rather than speculating
i,m sure it will come out in the wash
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And he wonders why people try not to see his posts.
Well yes quite and sometimes being the soothsayer is just like being a soothsayer and warning Julius Caesar beware of the ides of march !
It's a new Premier league season . Villa retained status a fitting tribute would be a Premier league section.
Up the Villa.
Football is The Villa and The Rest.
There's a whole Other Football sub-forum for all of the non-Villa needs.
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Wasn't he involved in some kind of underground fighting ring? Or is that just Twitter nonsense?
If it wasn't held under the Queensbury rules he'd have to be Barking mad to do so even if he's no Angel as it could prove to be his Waterloo.
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Wasn't he involved in some kind of underground fighting ring? Or is that just Twitter nonsense?
axl rose best to leave it to the authorities rather than speculating
i,m sure it will come out in the wash
Ah, money laundering it is then...allegedly. ;)
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Blimey, Sky bin Thompson, Le Tissier and Nicholas but bring in Tactics Tim and keep Merse. At least Villa will get a few nicer words this season I suppose.
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Are they permanent additions? or will it be like question of sport with a different three guests every week?
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No Benrahma in Brentford squad today?
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Are they permanent additions? or will it be like question of sport with a different three guests every week?
I don't know Danno but I read that the three had been binned. They have a fair few of them in the different studios. Quite a good line up, except for Tiny Penis.
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Arsenal 1 up
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Wasn't he involved in some kind of underground fighting ring? Or is that just Twitter nonsense?
axl rose best to leave it to the authorities rather than speculating
i,m sure it will come out in the wash
The first rule of Fight Club is you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is you do not talk about Fight Club.
Watching the Small Heath game and I can't see any of these big signings the SmallTimeAlliance posters were talking about them bringing in with the Jude Bellend money
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Are they permanent additions? or will it be like question of sport with a different three guests every week?
I don't know Danno but I read that the three had been binned. They have a fair few of them in the different studios. Quite a good line up, except for Tiny Penis.
Have only ever heard Pulis do co comms on radio. Excitable he aint.
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Blimey, Sky bin Thompson, Le Tissier and Nicholas but bring in Tactics Tim and keep Merse. At least Villa will get a few nicer words this season I suppose.
I think Tactics Tim and Merse were team mates together at Portsmouth towards the end of their careers.
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Blues are going to bore their way to a draw or 1-0 win here I reckon.
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1-0 Small Heath. Some bloke called 'Bela' scored. I thought 'Bela' was the Villa Lioness mascot.
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Blues are going to bore their way to a draw or 1-0 win here I reckon.
It worked for them last season. Just about.
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Brentford should have been awarded a penalty there. Harley Dean had one aim in mind, to flatten his opponent with his forearm, which by doing so would enable him to be seen as 'winning the ball first.' His attempt earlier on in the half, to cut the Brentford winger in half, should also have earned him a booking.
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2-0 The Arse
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Make that 3-0
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At least we're still second!
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The blues go on about our luck. Brentford have now hit the bar and the post and not been given a penalty for a forearm smash in the box.
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Make that two nailed on penalties they’ve not been given.
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Fulham 0 Arsenal 3. Fulham are 'Doing A Fulham'.
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Fulham are miles and miles out their depth.
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The refereeing in this Birmingham - Brentford game has been utterly woeful.
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Make that two nailed on penalties they’ve not been given.
Who's the ref? K Friend!
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Small Heath’s pitch looks rough, and its only the first game of the season.
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Make that two nailed on penalties they’ve not been given.
Who's the ref? K Friend!
He looks like Andy Burnham. And he’s reffing like him as well.
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Tony Harrington, according to the Beeb!
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Small Heath look like they will be doing the same as last season. Poor to watch but tight at the back and happy to nick a 1-0 win.
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Wasn’t sure where to put this - Watkins has scored to put us 1-0 up according to Ian Taylor on Twitter
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Wattooooooooooo
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Huge plus for Arsenal getting Aubameyang to sign a new contract.
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Hope we play that same Fulham back 4 in two weeks time, Tim Ream and Odoi are nowhere near premier league defenders.
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Wasn’t sure where to put this - Watkins has scored to put us 1-0 up according to Ian Taylor on Twitter
And a according to Ty Bracey
I don’t know who he is but has nearly 70k followers and a blue tick
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Small Heath beat Brentford 1-0.
Small Heath 37% possession
Brentford 63% possession
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Wasn’t sure where to put this - Watkins has scored to put us 1-0 up according to Ian Taylor on Twitter
Pre-season friendly thread?
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That Southampton away kit. What's wrong with everybody this year?!
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Wasn’t sure where to put this - Watkins has scored to put us 1-0 up according to Ian Taylor on Twitter
Pre-season friendly thread?
Yeah sorry. All this transfer talk has fried my mind !
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That Southampton away kit. What's wrong with everybody this year?!
Just googled. All three kits are fine. Must just be horrible training gear in the picture here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football
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I don't even know what day it is, most of the time.
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Zaha playing for a move eh? Scores for Palace against Saints.
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Wilfred 'Shop Window' Zaha puts Palace 1-0 up. I like that Southampton kit.
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Wilfred 'Shop Window' Zaha puts Palance 1-0 up. I like that Southampton kit.
yeah I've always liked that stripe on the shirt ever since the Peru 78 kit.
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Wasn't sure if it was a training top without the sponsor.
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Wasn't sure if it was a training top without the sponsor.
The minging one was. The actual kit is nice.
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Harrogate Town 2-0 up away at Southend in their first ever league match. Happy for them.
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Palace choking Southampton as Ian Darke bt sports says -going into half time 1-0 up
Roy Hodgson has Palace well organized deserve to lead.
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Wasn’t sure where to put this - Watkins has scored to put us 1-0 up according to Ian Taylor on Twitter
I feel your confusion brother!
There's a pre season thread .
I still hope for a premier league season 20/21
So don't have to read about Harrogate ?!
When Premier league rivals are playing
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Harrogate Town 2-0 up away at Southend in their first ever league match. Happy for them.
Why ?
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It's a nice story, Simon Weaver taking over as player manager in 2009, his dad becoming chairman as a result and 11 years on them leading the club to the Football League for the first time in its history.
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VAR is already better, that's a great change of the decision for Walker-Peters, the red card was very harsh.
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VAR is already better, that's a great change of the decision for Walker-Peters, the red card was very harsh.
Great isn't it when it's used properly even Moss can get something right !
After he gave a red . clear on replay wasn't as bad as first thought so gave a yellow.
The worrying thing is Moss still making poor decisions in first place ! Still aggrieved the pk against Konsa. Shocking
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It's a nice story, Simon Weaver taking over as player manager in 2009, his dad becoming chairman as a result and 11 years on them leading the club to the Football League for the first time in its history.
Ahh thanks ! Good story. I never heard of them or realise. I heard of another team come up called Barrow in Furness?? That's quite a name for a place as well as a football club.
I thought Harrow-gate was another London team!
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VAR is already better, that's a great change of the decision for Walker-Peters, the red card was very harsh.
Great isn't it when it's used properly even Moss can get something right !
After he gave a red clear on replay wasn't as bad as first thought
The worrying thing is Moss still making poor decisions in first place ! Still aggrieved the pk against Konsa. Shocking
I don't mind refs getting things wrong, they get 1 look and can only see it from 1 angle, there will always be mistakes. VAR is supposed to be there to help them even it out and last year that didn't happen. Today shows that it can do the job it was designed for and shows just how shit last years version was.
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Fulham are miles and miles out their depth.
I'd feel sorry for them if it wasn't for the fact on same league competition as Villa .
We always seem to perform poorly at the cottage so hoping in a few Mondays we'll beat them!
They do lack quality but do play some possession and press but would have them definitely struggling unless they address in this window with some top quality oven ready premier league players.
Would have loved Willian at Villa he's a class act. Free transfer and stands out , great pro and effortless.
we were outclassed today but Arsenal will do that to lot of of lower premiership clubs, that’s the last time we play a so-called top top six side until December, the games up until then will probably decide our future in the premier league, I’m pretty sure 2 or 3 of the players today won’t be starting in the next couple of weeks
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It's a nice story, Simon Weaver taking over as player manager in 2009, his dad becoming chairman as a result and 11 years on them leading the club to the Football League for the first time in its history.
Ahh thanks ! Good story. I never heard of them or realise. I heard of another team come up called Barrow in Furness?? That's quite a name for a place as well as a football club.
I thought Harrow-gate was another London team!
No worries re Harrow-gate, wasn't trying to school you. Yes, Barrow AFC were also promoted to the League but had previously spent 50+ years in it. As you noted they're from Barrow-in-Furness which is slightly less posh than Harrogate. ;)
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Fulham are miles and miles out their depth.
I'd feel sorry for them if it wasn't for the fact on same league competition as Villa .
We always seem to perform poorly at the cottage so hoping in a few Mondays we'll beat them!
They do lack quality but do play some possession and press but would have them definitely struggling unless they address in this window with some top quality oven ready premier league players.
Would have loved Willian at Villa he's a class act. Free transfer and stands out , great pro and effortless.
we were outclassed today but Arsenal will do that to lot of of lower premiership clubs, that’s the last time we play a so-called top top six side until December, the games up until then will probably decide our future in the premier league, I’m pretty sure 2 or 3 of the players today won’t be starting in the next couple of weeks
I hope you stay up but you need to make things much harder for teams. Arsenal have a very good side but they didn't need to do anything special to open you up today, which is the same problem we had at times last season.
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It's a nice story, Simon Weaver taking over as player manager in 2009, his dad becoming chairman as a result and 11 years on them leading the club to the Football League for the first time in its history.
Ahh thanks ! Good story. I never heard of them or realise. I heard of another team come up called Barrow in Furness?? That's quite a name for a place as well as a football club.
I thought Harrow-gate was another London team!
No worries re Harrow-gate, wasn't trying to school you. Yes, Barrow AFC were also promoted to the League but had previously spent 50+ years in it. As you noted they're from Barrow-in-Furness which is slightly less posh than Harrogate. ;)
Slightly less posh is a bit of an understatement!! I lived in Barrow for a short time 20 odd years ago. Saw them play Kiddy Harriers just before they went bankrupt. It's quite a town.
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It's a nice story, Simon Weaver taking over as player manager in 2009, his dad becoming chairman as a result and 11 years on them leading the club to the Football League for the first time in its history.
"We are Harrogate Town, We are Harrogate Town!"
My adopted home - when not watching the Villa I'm down at Wetherby Road. Absolutely chuffed to bits for them.
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Penalty to Liverpool.
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1-0
Good start for everyone’s second favourite club.
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Torn with this one.... hate Liverpool with a passion, but grown to hate Leeds even more in recent times.
1-0.... Hopefully the first of many! Cocky gobshites😉
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1-0
Good start for everyone’s second favourite club.
No conflict of interest for me: I want Dirty Leeds to be utterly whacked!
My forecast before the game was 1-1.
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Every Leeds fan I have spoken to recently reckon they are nailed on for top 6, it's a massive jump in quality. Anyway 1 down already is good news as far as I'm concerned.
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1-1
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1-1 great goal by Harrison
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Liverpool's defence all over the place ...
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Every Leeds fan I have spoken to recently reckon they are nailed on for top 6, it's a massive jump in quality. Anyway 1 down already is good news as far as I'm concerned.
And given Bielsa's teams run themselves into the ground and are broken by March, they're going to need to have a very good first two-thirds of the season.
The Covid break was very useful for us, but for Leeds that rest is probably why they got promoted.
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Good goal.
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Yeah cracking goal
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Liverpool have looked shit since the goal.
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1-1 great goal by Harrison
Yes it was, be interesting to see if Leeds will press high for the 90 minutes.
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Cracking goal that in every way apart from it was scored by dirty Leeds
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Incredibly open game.
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They like their man buns don’t they dirty Leeds
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Bloody hell this leeds keeper looks ropey.
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It's a nice story, Simon Weaver taking over as player manager in 2009, his dad becoming chairman as a result and 11 years on them leading the club to the Football League for the first time in its history.
"We are Harrogate Town, We are Harrogate Town!"
My adopted home - when not watching the Villa I'm down at Wetherby Road. Absolutely chuffed to bits for them.
Ended 4-0 to them so now it's "We are top of the league, said we are top of the league".
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Fulham are miles and miles out their depth.
I'd feel sorry for them if it wasn't for the fact on same league competition as Villa .
We always seem to perform poorly at the cottage so hoping in a few Mondays we'll beat them!
They do lack quality but do play some possession and press but would have them definitely struggling unless they address in this window with some top quality oven ready premier league players.
Would have loved Willian at Villa he's a class act. Free transfer and stands out , great pro and effortless.
we were outclassed today but Arsenal will do that to lot of of lower premiership clubs, that’s the last time we play a so-called top top six side until December,
You're playing one in two weeks.
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Another one goal win for Palace today. You could have made a fortune betting on one goal Palace wins last season.
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Thinking about it leeds might do better against the better sides that like to go forward. So they might beat us. :-)
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It was a good goal from Leeds but the defending by Gomez was poor, sold himself far too easily. I agree the leeds keeper has looked iffy so far.
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It's a nice story, Simon Weaver taking over as player manager in 2009, his dad becoming chairman as a result and 11 years on them leading the club to the Football League for the first time in its history.
"We are Harrogate Town, We are Harrogate Town!"
My adopted home - when not watching the Villa I'm down at Wetherby Road. Absolutely chuffed to bits for them.
Ended 4-0 to them so now it's "We are top of the league, said we are top of the league".
Indeed!!
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Another one goal win for Palace today. You could have made a fortune betting on one goal Palace wins last season.
Based on your previous betting history I'm guessing you never placed a bet on that then?
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2-1 to liverpool, piss poor defending from Leeds.
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And almost an immediate equaliser.
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The Leeds fan who owns next door to me has rented it out for a decade. The tenants - young couple with two kids - not a bloody peep. He comes back and through the adjoining wall comes his telly, his music, every word of every phone conversation and there now appears to be a new woman in tow so I would imagine every grunt of their sex life... However nothing prepared me for the racket accompanying Leeds' equalizer.
It's going to be a long season...
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2-2 Liverpool’s defending is horrific
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2-2
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Van Dijk ... not such an awesome defender is he
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Bamford ugh
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Cock up from Van Dijk what a game
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Wowsers! The defending in this game would embarrass a sunday league team.
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3-2 Salah
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Boom!
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Awful defending again, both teams are trying to attack but all the goals have come from basic errors.
However there's another for Salah and that's a worldie.
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As we've all said, the defences have been appalling.
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I'm going 9-8 Liverpool win
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Come on Liverpool a few more goals please.
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2 teams I can’t stand
with 2 managers I quite like
playing in a thoroughly entertaining game
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Another one goal win for Palace today. You could have made a fortune betting on one goal Palace wins last season.
Terrible result for us.
Is it too soon to be saying that?
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I missed the first 15 minutes of this Liverpool - Leeds game, so have only just seen the penalty award, during half time. Shocking decision.
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I missed the first 15 minutes of this Liverpool - Leeds game, so have only just seen the penalty award, during half time. Shocking decision.
I'm surprised that people are saying that: the arm was stuck right out, preventing the ball from reaching a player in red ...
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Absolute corker from the Belgian league:
https://twitter.com/ElevenSportsBEn/status/1304811193958363140
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Absolute corker from the Belgian league:
https://twitter.com/ElevenSportsBEn/status/1304811193958363140
Noooooooooo! 😀
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Unbelievable Jeff!
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Jamie Carracher: " ... make Leeds even more offensive".
That would be hard: I fcukin' hate them!
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Liverpool won't win the league this season!
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Whoosh!
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Both defences have been shocking ... but I have to say that Leeds do not look out of place in the Prem.
Early days though!
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3 on 2 with Liverpool's Centre halfs there.
I fancy Watkins to score 19 goals against both of these horror show defences.
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both of these sides will need to defend better to achieve their objectives this season
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Anyone know the team we out out today??
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Steer
Targett
Mings
Konsa
Cash
Dougie
Hourihane
McGinn
Grealish
Watkins
Trez
Described as very energetic by Daley.
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Van Dyke goal disallowed, probably the right call. Funny game, Liverpool are the better side by quite a long way but they're giving away too many chances still, could go either way.
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Have Leeds been out of the Premier League for quite a while? I think I may have heard Martin Tyler mention it
just once or twice in his match commentary this evening.
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Penalty 'Pool.
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can't stand Tyler and his cringeworthy bile of buffoonery.
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can't stand Tyler and his cringeworthy bile of buffoonery.
"AND IT'S LIVE"! ;)
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good - fuck Leeds
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Absolute corker from the Belgian league:
https://twitter.com/ElevenSportsBEn/status/1304811193958363140
Sign him up! Fits the bill perfectly :D
Noooooooooo! 😀
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Why isn't Kalvin Philips playing? Is he injured?
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Even if they end up losing the swooning over Leeds will be obnoxious.
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Am I now asking what's been asked many times before, but is Bielsa a twin of Jack Duckworth?
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Why isn't Kalvin Philips playing? Is he injured?
He's there, it's hard to tell but the giveaway is Tyler gushing over him almost every time he touches the ball.
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Is Marcelo Bielsa the Leeds manager?
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The Sky - Leeds love in is absolutely fucking nauseating.
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Why isn't Kalvin Philips playing? Is he injured?
I thought he played pretty well!
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Leeds usually start off flying, but looking at their defence, they'll leak goals.
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The real entertainment starts soon. David Moyes' West Ham against Steve Bruce's Newcastle.
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Absolute corker from the Belgian league:
https://twitter.com/ElevenSportsBEn/status/1304811193958363140
Even Savo would have, somehow, rolled that in.
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Leeds reminded me of how Norwich started last season, only time will tell if they will end up doing what Norwich did.
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Why isn't Kalvin Philips playing? Is he injured?
I thought he played pretty well!
He did ok at the job of springing counter-attacks but he offered no protection to the back four at all.
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The real entertainment starts soon. David Moyes' West Ham against Steve Bruce's Newcastle.
I’m going for a 0-0
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The real entertainment starts soon. David Moyes' West Ham against Steve Bruce's Newcastle.
I’m going for a 0-0
Sticking your neck out there, mate.
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If it is 0-0 it will be as boring as watching pine cones come alive.
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I watched the version without the fake crowd noise. Far better than with the fakery, but only HD rather than UHD
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Certainly hope it's 0-0, got a Newcastle centre back in my fantasy team....
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Certainly hope it's 0-0, got a Newcastle centre back in my fantasy team....
I just can't imagine having anything associated with Newcastle in my fantasy.
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Certainly hope it's 0-0, got a Newcastle centre back in my fantasy team....
I just can't imagine having anything associated with Newcastle in my fantasy.
Liquidators turning St James Park into a shopping centre?
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Enjoyed the game
Hate 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' , ambivilant about leeds.
But I supose it keeps them below us, which s good
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Even if they end up losing the swooning over Leeds will be obnoxious.
Oi! That's my second team you're talking about. In fact, that's all of our's second team. The media said so. Sorry Newcastle, you've been replaced. So long and thanks for all the fish.
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Wilson has made a couple of lovely runs and looks pretty quick still for the barcodes.
David Moyes was asked if it has been a tough pre season and tried to bluff that it has been a really good one for West Ham. You could see him trying to convince himself.
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The real entertainment starts soon. David Moyes' West Ham against Steve Bruce's Newcastle.
I’m going for a 0-0
Sticking your neck out there, mate.
I know it’s a risk with those 2 attack minded managers
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The real entertainment starts soon. David Moyes' West Ham against Steve Bruce's Newcastle.
West Ham v Nan Utd
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West Ham v Newcastle with ten minutes played and Andy Carroll has already thrown an elbow into the face of two West Ham players. Which seeing has he hasn't even been booked for either of them is clearly allowed this season.
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When the Sky blokes are quiet, you can hear Steve Wilson commentating for the BBC.
These empty stadiums are weird.
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Certainly hope it's 0-0, got a Newcastle centre back in my fantasy team....
I just can't imagine having anything associated with Newcastle in my fantasy.
The best Newcastle fantasy anyone could imagine has played out perfectly over the last few months, they went from imagining Saudi billions making them regulars in the champions league to the despair of another season with Bruce.
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Certainly hope it's 0-0, got a Newcastle centre back in my fantasy team....
I just can't imagine having anything associated with Newcastle in my fantasy.
The best Newcastle fantasy anyone could imagine has played out perfectly over the last few months, they went from imagining Saudi billions making them regulars in the champions league to the despair of another season with Bruce.
For me, it would be Ashley doing a Hull and changing the team name to 'Geordies Direct', then converting St James' into a sportswear megastore.
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Certainly hope it's 0-0, got a Newcastle centre back in my fantasy team....
I just can't imagine having anything associated with Newcastle in my fantasy.
The best Newcastle fantasy anyone could imagine has played out perfectly over the last few months, they went from imagining Saudi billions making them regulars in the champions league to the despair of another season with Bruce.
For me, it would be Ashley doing a Hull and changing the team name to 'Geordies Direct', then converting St James' into a sportswear megastore.
I stupidly listened to a bit of 606 earlier. There was a hyperventilating Geordie on there saying that it was ridiculous to say that Newcastle fans didn't care about human rights in Saudi Arabia. A supporters' club had invited Saudi human rights groups to speak to them to hear about the situation there. After listening, they voted 97%-3% in favour of the takeover, so how could anyone say the didn't care?
Totally bizarre.
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I heard that. "ahm a christian, of corse we care about hooman rights in saudi awabia".
There was a guy on afterwards who accused Robbie Savage of "creaming his pants" every time he talks about Man united, which was not denied by the blonde berk.
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I heard that. "ahm a christian, of corse we care about hooman rights in saudi awabia".
There was a guy on afterwards who accused Robbie Savage of "creaming his pants" every time he talks about Man united, which was not denied by the blonde berk.
Savage needs to drop the panto villain act and stick to being serious. Because as much as I hate to admit it he does talk some sense when he calms down and doesn't just show off and give it the big 'un.
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I heard that. "ahm a christian, of corse we care about hooman rights in saudi awabia".
There was a guy on afterwards who accused Robbie Savage of "creaming his pants" every time he talks about Man united, which was not denied by the blonde berk.
Savage needs to drop the panto villain act and stick to being serious. Because as much as I hate to admit it he does talk some sense when he calms down and doesn't just show off and give it the big 'un.
Think a large part of that is whoever he is paired with. Put him with another ex player and yeah it's bantz o'clock. I do think he's better at phone ins than he is at commentary.
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I heard that. "ahm a christian, of corse we care about hooman rights in saudi awabia".
There was a guy on afterwards who accused Robbie Savage of "creaming his pants" every time he talks about Man united, which was not denied by the blonde berk.
Savage needs to drop the panto villain act and stick to being serious. Because as much as I hate to admit it he does talk some sense when he calms down and doesn't just show off and give it the big 'un.
Think a large part of that is whoever he is paired with. Put him with another ex player and yeah it's bantz o'clock. I do think he's better at phone ins than he is at commentary.
Phone-ins give him his only opportunity to ever speak to people less intelligent than he is.
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The most Steve Bruce thing ever, Newcastle in 2020 started a game in the Premier League with that broken carthorse Andy Carroll up front.
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I heard that. "ahm a christian, of corse we care about hooman rights in saudi awabia".
There was a guy on afterwards who accused Robbie Savage of "creaming his pants" every time he talks about Man united, which was not denied by the blonde berk.
Savage needs to drop the panto villain act and stick to being serious. Because as much as I hate to admit it he does talk some sense when he calms down and doesn't just show off and give it the big 'un.
Think a large part of that is whoever he is paired with. Put him with another ex player and yeah it's bantz o'clock. I do think he's better at phone ins than he is at commentary.
Phone-ins give him his only opportunity to ever speak to people less intelligent than he is.
Added bonus that they mostly comprise of other people talking instead of him.
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How is Wilson looking?
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How is Wilson looking?
pretty anonymous. Had 1 tough chance in the first half but haven't heard his name much otherwise.
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Absolutely staggered that a Moyes v Bruce game is 0-0 (so far).
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Wilson just scored
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How is Wilson looking?
pretty anonymous. Had 1 tough chance in the first half but haven't heard his name much otherwise.
Reverse mockers?
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No, it was my fault.
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WetSpam look pretty inept.
Newcastle - according to the commentator - look 'well organised and well drilled'.
these are two teams that I'd love to see get relegated.
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Wilson could have been penalised and the goal ruled out for a high boot but for me letting the goal stand was definitely the right decision.
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So, the £40m striker only makes the bench, and Almiron - who looked like a very decent player during the 'mini-league' - is also benched.
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It's been a fucking awful game. Newcastle just did the most Bruce thing ever. Counter-attack 3on3 in the 57th minute and they stopped and slowed it down to play safe.
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I may be no fan of Leeds but they will add far more to this league than either Newcastle or West Ham do!
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Why do Sky continue to employ Alan 'boring himself to death' Smith as an expert summariser? Desperate stuff!
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WetSpam look pretty inept.
Newcastle - according to the commentator - look 'well organised and well drilled'.
these are two teams that I'd love to see get relegated.
"Well organised and well drilled" is the polite way of saying defensive and boring to watch.
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It's been a fucking awful game...
What would you expect from a game where the team managers are Moyes and Bruce?! - I've elected for amateur root canal work rather than watch it!!
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It's been a fucking awful game...
What would you expect from a game where the team managers are Moyes and Bruce?! - I've elected for amateur root canal work rather than watch it!!
Obviously, a lie.
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So, the £40m striker only makes the bench, and Almiron - who looked like a very decent player during the 'mini-league' - is also benched.
While playing a midfield of Hendrick, Shelvey and Hayden. Never change Steve.
I thought a few JD and cokes might make this game better to watch, but it hasn't worked.
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Bruce looks the size of a house.
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It's been a fucking awful game...
What would you expect from a game where the team managers are Moyes and Bruce?! - I've elected for amateur root canal work rather than watch it!!
For years we’ve been linked with Moyes and after having Bruce we still had people wanting Fat Sam this year and I’m sure Pulis was mentioned as well. I know they do a job but crikey it’s not much fun is it.
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Pulis would have been the worst.
Genuinely think I'd have stopped watching us if he had got the job.
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It's been a fucking awful game...
What would you expect from a game where the team managers are Moyes and Bruce?! - I've elected for amateur root canal work rather than watch it!!
Oh completely, but even with my very low expectations it's been bad, I'd hoped Saint-Maximin, Bowen and Antonio might add the odd spark but the former has been kicked all over the park and the other 2 look they don't want to be there.
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Cracking goal by Hendrick. 2-0
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Three to go down
Fulham
Smethwick
Wet Spam
Unless they make some serious signings soon.
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Hendricks has had a good game. Always rated him at Derby
The geordies have a decent squad. Comfortably mid table I reckon
West Ham? Yarmalenko, Anderson and Lanzini on the bench. All Should be starting 11 Something wrong there
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West Ham have been so poor, as things stand they're now my favourites for relegation. I know it's only 1 game but I can't think of anything positive for them to build on here.
Newcastle are fully 'Bruced' now, awful team but will scrape together enough points to keep the fans from calling for his head until someone snaps and throws vegetables at him.
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West Ham were really poor. Credit where it's due, Newcastle were pretty sharp from the off, and thoroughly deserved a 2-0 win.
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Sullivan, Gold & Brady just can't get it right can they? They plough some dough into Small Heath then bugger off and the bloke they sold to gets his day in the sun at Wembley. Now they have their council house in London but they are Premier League also rans and the fans hate them.
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They have put decent money in for players though. Various managers have just wasted it. But it doesn’t mean to say that I don’t hope the twunts go down to the isthmian league.
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They've - and i know this is corny - ripped the heart out of that club by moving it to that horrific soulless stadium.
Yeah, it might be almost free, but some things are best avoided, even if they come gratis.
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As an away fan I always found West Ham's old ground the most intimidating to visit.
Watching MOTD I see that our old captain Stuart Gray is on the coaching staff at Fulham. He scored the late equalizing goal against Boro at Villa Park in 1989 that ended up keeping us up. I was also there for what I think was his debut at Bradford when we won 4-2 in a top of the table clash. I think he and Andy Gray II both made their Villa debuts that day and Stuart Gray scored two and Birch & McInally scored the other goals. I think going into the game Bradford were top and we were second and our win took us top.
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I was at Bradford what a great away day that was. The irony being a 0-5 home defeat in the Simod Cup at home to them a couple of weeks earlier prompted us to buy the Gray twins Andy and Stuart.
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Another win for the mighty Rangers.
Really impressive win for Celtic too.
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West Ham were really poor. Credit where it's due, Newcastle were pretty sharp from the off, and thoroughly deserved a 2-0 win.
Excellent, hope the kit stealers get relegated. Got Moyes to be the first manager to be sacked/resign etc in my football bets.
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I was at Bradford what a great away day that was. The irony being a 0-5 home defeat in the Simod Cup at home to them a couple of weeks earlier prompted us to buy the Gray twins Andy and Stuart.
The away end was so crap I couldn’t see the goals that went in at that end so had to watch them on telly later. Steve Sims gave away two penalties for handball, including inexplicably swatting a ball going over his head.
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Newcastle still look horribly limited but West Ham looked awful. They were so flat, looked like a team on the beach. Reminded me a bit of our 3-0 first game against Spurs in 86/87 if any can recall that far back.
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I was at Bradford what a great away day that was. The irony being a 0-5 home defeat in the Simod Cup at home to them a couple of weeks earlier prompted us to buy the Gray twins Andy and Stuart.
I was at that Simod Cup defeat! I'm pretty sure it was at that game (although it might have been at the must-win penultimate game of that season) that the blokes behind me on the Holte spent a large proportion of the game taking the piss out of the lankiness of one Ian Ormondroyd. If only they knew...
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Newcastle still look horribly limited but West Ham looked awful. They were so flat, looked like a team on the beach. Reminded me a bit of our 3-0 first game against Spurs in 86/87 if any can recall that far back.
I sure as hell can, I took my lad to his first league game that day, up until then it had been early round cup games and reserves, games with lesser crowds. He was so full of excitement that day and so disappointed afterwards something he's got used to over the years. The writing was on the wall that day alright.
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West Ham were really poor. Credit where it's due, Newcastle were pretty sharp from the off, and thoroughly deserved a 2-0 win.
Excellent, hope the kit stealers get relegated. Got Moyes to be the first manager to be sacked/resign etc in my football bets.
Unlike a lot here I don't mind West Ham but agree they could be in trouble this season. For me West Ham, West Brom and Franky's team from West London look likeliest to drop.
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Newcastle still look horribly limited but West Ham looked awful. They were so flat, looked like a team on the beach. Reminded me a bit of our 3-0 first game against Spurs in 86/87 if any can recall that far back.
I sure as hell can, I took my lad to his first league game that day, up until then it had been early round cup games and reserves, games with lesser crowds. He was so full of excitement that day and so disappointed afterwards something he's got used to over the years. The writing was on the wall that day alright.
I had a choice that weekend and went for a camping trip with the now Mrs TD. In the subsequent weeks before heading back for my final year at uni I saw us beat Luton, then went away for a fortnight in Greece where I paid over the odds for The Sun to find out three days after the event that we'd been thrashed at Forest and had just about got off the plane at Elmdom before witnessing the Steve Hodge Norwich game.
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West Ham were really poor. Credit where it's due, Newcastle were pretty sharp from the off, and thoroughly deserved a 2-0 win.
Excellent, hope the kit stealers get relegated. Got Moyes to be the first manager to be sacked/resign etc in my football bets.
Unlike a lot here I don't mind West Ham but agree they could be in trouble this season. For me West Ham, West Brom and Franky's team from West London look likeliest to drop.
I liked West Ham until the Triumvirate of evil got their slimy paws on them and the Council House stadium debacle. Feel sorry for their genuine fans.
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I was at Bradford what a great away day that was. The irony being a 0-5 home defeat in the Simod Cup at home to them a couple of weeks earlier prompted us to buy the Gray twins Andy and Stuart.
In that Simod Cup defeat Ian Ormondroyd caused us loads of problems and we couldn't handle him. I think we bought him about eighteen months later.
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Bruce looks the size of a house.
Huh, opinions eh ? I was thinking he looked (relatively) slim-line.
I've said it before, but Almiron is just the worst "luxury" player in the league. My 8-year-old could beat him in a physical duel, no pace, and I've yet to see him beat a player. I do like Andy Carroll though. If he weren't made of glass he could have been an ace "bullocking" striker for England against opponents who "don't like it up 'em".
West Ham look absolutely atrocious too. Moyes a dead cert for first manager fired.
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Bruce looks the size of a house.
Huh, opinions eh ? I was thinking he looked (relatively) slim-line.
I've said it before, but Almiron is just the worst "luxury" player in the league. My 8-year-old could beat him in a physical duel, no pace, and I've yet to see him beat a player. I do like Andy Carroll though. If he weren't made of glass he could have been an ace "bullocking" striker for England against opponents who "don't like it up 'em".
West Ham look absolutely atrocious too. Moyes a dead cert for first manager fired.
I can't take Almiron seriously as a footballer because he looks too much like Sheldon off of The Big Bang Theory.
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The SKY commentator is shocked that Paul Lambert's Ipswich have won only ten of their last fifty home games.
I doubt any of us here on H&V are that surprised.
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I am shocked he is still there.
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Think Leicester will drop a few places this year. I'd be amazed if Vardy has another season scoring 20+ goals. He's 33 and starting to pick up more injuries and a packed fixture list won't help.
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That is an attacking looking side Leicester have sent out.
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I can see Rodgers being punted early doors this season. Although 5th was respectable enough Leicester have gone into delusion overdrive since the title win. He was moaning about the lack of transfers the other day. Should’ve come to us!
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Leicester's third kit is quite smart.
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The bitters have looked pretty decent early on. But they’re not going to stay up if they think Callum Robinson is their answer up front. We know exactly what it’s like to have no firepower and it really does catch up to you. But they’re at least trying to play positively and take the game to Leicester.
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As an away fan I always found West Ham's old ground the most intimidating to visit.
Watching MOTD I see that our old captain Stuart Gray is on the coaching staff at Fulham. He scored the late equalizing goal against Boro at Villa Park in 1989 that ended up keeping us up. I was also there for what I think was his debut at Bradford when we won 4-2 in a top of the table clash. I think he and Andy Gray II both made their Villa debuts that day and Stuart Gray scored two and Birch & McInally scored the other goals. I think going into the game Bradford were top and we were second and our win took us top.
Gary Thompson scored not McInally. There's some Itv central news footage of it on YouTube.
I remember I had it on tape and though only a minute long i was always watching it.
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Livermore is a thug not sure how he hasn’t been booked.
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1-0 Leicester
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Leicester well on top
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Ta ra bitters. 2-0. Vardy pen
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2-0 Leicester. Already I’m smiling at potential relegation candidates losing such as WBA, Fulham, Leeds and West Ham.
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2-0. The Rat penalty.
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Ta ra bitters. 2-0. Vardy pen
I need an Albion consolation goal. I backed Leicester to win 2-1 at 7/1.
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Seemed like 50 passes before that penalty. Albion got nowhere near the ball.
0-3!
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Boing boing boing!
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That James made a right meal of that tackle , but it is Albion so we will allow it 👍
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I'd be amazed if Vardy has another season scoring 20+ goals. He's 33 and starting to pick up more injuries and a packed fixture list won't help.
Only another 18 to go, people still knock him but he has been shit hot for over 5 yrs now . Great player
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I'd be amazed if Vardy has another season scoring 20+ goals. He's 33 and starting to pick up more injuries and a packed fixture list won't help.
Only another 18 to go, people still knock him but he has been shit hot for over 5 yrs now . Great player
Fueled by Red Bull and other
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Boing boing boing splat!
FTFY
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I'd be amazed if Vardy has another season scoring 20+ goals. He's 33 and starting to pick up more injuries and a packed fixture list won't help.
Only another 18 to go, people still knock him but he has been shit hot for over 5 yrs now . Great player
Not knocking him, just got the impression last year was an Indian summer.
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2-0 Leicester. Already I’m smiling at potential relegation candidates losing such as WBA, Fulham, Leeds and West Ham.
Always worth a laugh but if we had played this weekend we might have placed ourselves in the same position.
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Think Leicester will drop a few places this year. I'd be amazed if Vardy has another season scoring 20+ goals. He's 33 and starting to pick up more injuries and a packed fixture list won't help.
He relies on speed and that will disappear after 10 games. It did happen last year post Christmas and Leicester were ineffective. If he played for a bigger club than Leicester they would be replacing him just about now.
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Everton's James Rodriguez hasn't got the best of injury records.
63 games in three years at Porto
85 games in six years at Real Madrid
43 games in two years at Bayern
A total of 191 games in eleven years at an average of 17 games a season.
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He'll have some very good games. He has that ability. But the question will be can he do it consistently and with that injury record will he be available. I am sure they are paying him a fortune too.
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I always want to call him 'Jam-ez' like the waiter in the Goodness Gracious Me 'Going For An Indian' sketch.
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Haha Richarlison
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Richarlison should have put that away.
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If I was an Everton fan I'd be ripping that he didn't pull that back for a virtual tap-in.
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Watching Leeds and this game, is it me or are players far less fit
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Watching Leeds and this game, is it me or are players far less fit
I don't know about fit as such but there does seem to be a lack of sharpness. They haven't really had a pre season have they.
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Everton's James Rodriguez hasn't got the best of injury records.
63 games in three years at Porto
85 games in six years at Real Madrid
43 games in two years at Bayern
A total of 191 games in eleven years at an average of 17 games a season.
Certainly at Real at least that low figure is also because he wasn't getting picked.
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Spurs are on the slide. We'll take Kane next summer.
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Spurs are on the slide. We'll take Kane next summer.
What was it they offered for Grealish?
We'll give them £10m and Henri Lansbury.
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What was it they offered for Grealish?
We'll give them £10m and Henri Lansbury.
FTFY.
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Isn't it time that the commentators in these games stopped uttering the 'apologies if you heard any inappropriate language back there'? I mean, it is what it is, everyone knows it is, and uttering the apologies makes it no better (and not doing so makes it no worse).
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they should be apologising for Spurs performance to be fair - fucking shite.
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Good performance that, from Everton. James looks class.
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Jose out
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That Colombian lad Jaime looks tidy.
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Isn't it time that the commentators in these games stopped uttering the 'apologies if you heard any inappropriate language back there'? I mean, it is what it is, everyone knows it is, and uttering the apologies makes it no better (and not doing so makes it no worse).
It’s funny you’ve said that as I’ve heard a couple of really obvious and quite bad ones recently that they’ve glossed over and not mentioned. So as you said, hopefully, yes.
One was a Scottish game where the player shouted “You’ve got to be fucking shitting me Lino” 😂
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Blimey, Tottenham are boring.
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Blimey, Tottenham are boring.
You've got to hand it to Mourinho, he's imprinted his style of play very quickly.
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I'd be amazed if Vardy has another season scoring 20+ goals. He's 33 and starting to pick up more injuries and a packed fixture list won't help.
Only another 18 to go, people still knock him but he has been shit hot for over 5 yrs now . Great player
Not knocking him, just got the impression last year was an Indian summer.
I agree to an extent, I'm not sure him scoring 2 penalties today does a lot to prove you wrong either. We'll see but he definitely appears to be picking up more niggles and given how reliant on pace he is that's a bad sign.
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Niggles ?
What niggles has he picked up after one game and two goals?
If you’re referring to last season he still scored 23 goals with niggles.
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Wow - Kane has a serious injury and a change of management and he’s written off.
The man is the best number 9 finisher with Lewandowski In the world. Left, right, head, calmness, team play the lot.
His team pep talks however stink.
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Spurs v Everton
Been saying Kane is past his peak and should step for England.
He's in the way , ineffective and lumberous.
Yet many were saying he's world 👀class??
He's nowhere near.
Likes of Calvin -Letwin don't get a look in because Kane is blocking path
He should move along.
Strikers now need to be flexible and fluid .
Play as wide forwards and central. Kane is limited and hold England back.
Clearly unfit and struggling for form for a long time now.
Apart from the last three games of the season, when he scored 5 goals in 3 games?! His biggest non-scoring streak was 3 games last season. I wish we had a forward 'struggling for form' as badly as that.
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when we played the 1st game there last year (despite taking the lead) we looked at times,outmusceled ,outplayed and bossed out of the game.
Today spurs looked pretty passers, no drive , no plan .
Everton were the much better side.
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Sorry to say but that James looks absolute quality. Can see Everton having a crack at the top 4 if he stays fit.
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I watched the second half of our Neighbours vs the foxes.
Could be a long season for the stripey ones, seemed absolutley clueless. Did they buy anyone ?
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Didnt they spend their entire budget signing last seasons loan players on permanent deals?
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Jaime looks the bollocks tbf.
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I watched the second half of our Neighbours vs the foxes.
Could be a long season for the stripey ones, seemed absolutley clueless. Did they buy anyone ?
The bought the two guys they had on loan. Pereira and Diangana both handy.
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They’re close to signing Ivanovic aged 108 and some bloke called Grant from Huddersfield.
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Jaime looks the bollocks tbf.
Well Louise has left him, so maybe you're still in with a shot?
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Oh yeh they signed our Callum permanently who actually ran intelligently into space at times before being offside.
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Jaime looks the bollocks tbf.
Well Louise has left him, so maybe you're still in with a shot?
Quality post.
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when we played the 1st game there last year (despite taking the lead) we looked at times,outmusceled ,outplayed and bossed out of the game.
Today spurs looked pretty passers, no drive , no plan .
Everton were the much better side.
everton were class today
usually bored out of my brains watching them but looked the real deal
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PSG lose their first two matches of the season, 0-1 against Marseille tonight.
And five players sent off in injury time tonight, including Neymar and Jordan Amavi.
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As an impartial* observer, I was glad to see Amavi getting stuck in to those twats.
*100% partial.
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Sorry to say but that James looks absolute quality.
Peaked in 2014 and stole a living for the last 6 years they said. I was pissing myself reading that utter bollocks. ;D
Unbelievable range of passing. I wish he signed for us.
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1305206265296105472
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PSG lose their first two matches of the season, 0-1 against Marseille tonight.
And five players sent off in injury time tonight, including Neymar and Jordan Amavi.
Fucking lovely stuff all round. PSG losing games and a good old fight, love it.
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PSG lose their first two matches of the season, 0-1 against Marseille tonight.
And five players sent off in injury time tonight, including Neymar and Jordan Amavi.
Fucking lovely stuff all round. PSG losing games and a good old fight, love it.
You Jocks are all the same for as long as I can remember. ;)
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Sorry to say but that James looks absolute quality. Can see Everton having a crack at the top 4 if he stays fit.
He looked very good, but Spurs were fucking shit in midfield. They didn't get close to him and you cannot give players of that ability time to spray the ball around. Mourinho didn't adjust to the quick sweeping ball out left. Reminded me of Barry to Ash at their best for us.
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I like Everton, and I think James is an excellent player. The sort of player we should be going for, though Ancelotti was obviously a big draw.
Same with Alan, the chap they signed from Napoli-we definitely lack tenacity and physicality in the middle of the park. For all their good points, Luiz and McGinn are a bit weak.
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Everton are in much better position than us right now. They had the security of where they finished last season, a manager of international repute and they’re pretty flush themselves as can be seen in just how much they’ve thrown about the last few years. Mostly wastefully. But we’re really a few years behind them in who we can attract. Still, last season as shit as we were we should have taken 6 points off them.
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I agree with all of that, TV.
We'll catch up eventually. Hang onto our best players, and keep adding pace and skill to the squad.
We will be ok!
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No need to worry about Leeds.
Terrific performance but they'll be burned out long before Christmas.
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Almighty punch-up at the end of the PSG - Marseille game 'classique' last night. Five sent off, including Neymar and Amavi (remember him?). May have something to do with PSG losing their first two games.
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Sorry to say but that James looks absolute quality.
Peaked in 2014 and stole a living for the last 6 years they said. I was pissing myself reading that utter bollocks. ;D
Unbelievable range of passing. I wish he signed for us.
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1305206265296105472
Im confused here. A montage of Rodriguez square passing, dribbling well, doing tricks, scuffing shots, and he's superb.
A montage of Traore doing the same things and he's crap.
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Im confused here. A montage of Rodriguez square passing, dribbling well, doing tricks, scuffing shots, and he's superb.
A montage of Traore doing the same things and he's crap.
“Nothing so undermines your (financial) judgement as the sight of your neighbour getting rich." JP Morgan
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This isn't a dig at Everton, as by all accounts they were fantastic. How come they didn't score more?
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Sorry to say but that James looks absolute quality.
Peaked in 2014 and stole a living for the last 6 years they said. I was pissing myself reading that utter bollocks. ;D
Unbelievable range of passing. I wish he signed for us.
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1305206265296105472
If he had, you'd have found something to moan about.
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This isn't a dig at Everton, as by all accounts they were fantastic. How come they didn't score more?
Richarlison.
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This isn't a dig at Everton, as by all accounts they were fantastic. How come they didn't score more?
Richarlison.
Ha! Yes that was some miss
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Sorry to say but that James looks absolute quality.
Peaked in 2014 and stole a living for the last 6 years they said. I was pissing myself reading that utter bollocks. ;D
Unbelievable range of passing. I wish he signed for us.
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1305206265296105472
Im confused here. A montage of Rodriguez square passing, dribbling well, doing tricks, scuffing shots, and he's superb.
A montage of Traore doing the same things and he's crap.
Bloody hell, if you don't think that is quality play, then do you even watch football?
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Sorry to say but that James looks absolute quality.
Peaked in 2014 and stole a living for the last 6 years they said. I was pissing myself reading that utter bollocks. ;D
Unbelievable range of passing. I wish he signed for us.
https://twitter.com/ToffeeTVEFC/status/1305206265296105472
Im confused here. A montage of Rodriguez square passing, dribbling well, doing tricks, scuffing shots, and he's superb.
A montage of Traore doing the same things and he's crap.
Bloody hell, if you don't think that is quality play, then do you even watch football?
So he’s Columbia’s Jack Grealish. I’ve no doubt if he was English Southgate wouldn’t pick him.
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James looked ok but it was almost all in the middle third and safely in front of the Tottenham defenders. It was a very good debut but not the masterclass that some of the press are suggesting.
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The man hasn't played in 11 months !
Clearly he's a good level and well done to Everton.
I'll enjoy him making fools of WBA next week!
I'm not sure how that matters? I was talking about how people have reacted to his performance not how he performed (as I said, it was a very good debut).
He has to be compared to players like KDB and Jack and at their best they do a lot of work in the final 3rd. Watching the game yesterday I don't think that was the case with James, he got on the ball around halfway and moved it around nicely but most of his good work was crossfield passes into the huge gap that Matt Doherty was leaving.
I think he'll improve but they didn't sign him to look neat and tidy and around the halfway line.
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This isn't a dig at Everton, as by all accounts they were fantastic. How come they didn't score more?
Richarlison.
Ha! Yes that was some miss
Classic Kodjia- like play.
Simple square pass for a tap in and launched it high and wide.
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Nothing to prove to me James is great . But we can all agree he's the most handsome of fellows!
I much prefer his (soon to be ex) wife Daniela Ospina although I accept female Colombian volleyball players may not be to everyone's tastes.
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The man hasn't played in 11 months !
Clearly he's a good level and well done to Everton.
I'll enjoy him making fools of WBA next week!
I'm not sure how that matters? I was talking about how people have reacted to his performance not how he performed (as I said, it was a very good debut).
He has to be compared to players like KDB and Jack and at their best they do a lot of work in the final 3rd. Watching the game yesterday I don't think that was the case with James, he got on the ball around halfway and moved it around nicely but most of his good work was crossfield passes into the huge gap that Matt Doherty was leaving.
I think he'll improve but they didn't sign him to look neat and tidy and around the halfway line.
There were at least 3 defence splitting passes into the area in that Twitter thread alone.
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There were at least 3 defence splitting passes into the area in that Twitter thread alone.
There were none, I asusme the 3 you were talking about though are:
There's one about as 3rd in which was massively overhit.
Then there's what I would say was more of a cross from deep which Richarlison was never going to score from.
For the 3rd I can only think you mean the pass right at the end which was in no way defence splitting.
Again, I'm not saying it was a poor debut, I'm saying that he's been signed to do what KDB/Jack/Bruno Fernandes do, which is to open teams up and create chances. I don't think he did that yesterday. His performance reminded me a lot of how Foden played for England last week. It looked pretty but he had no major impact on the match.
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Honestly, the shite you talk!
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and in your normal arrogant fashion instead of pointing out the 3 defence splitting passes you just offer insults, no shock really, it's about the level I expect from you.
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and in your normal arrogant fashion instead of pointing out the 3 defence splitting passes you just offer insults, no shock really, it's about the level I expect from you.
I'd hate to disappoint you Paul! ;D
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I think Fulham and Albion will score a fair few goals this season but I also think they will concede quite a few too. I think Leeds will be the opposite. Despite their goal fest of a game on Saturday I think they will be a similar side to Sheffield United last season and keep it tight at the back and nick wins by the odd goal or two but I don't think they will finish in the top half like Sheffield United did. My tips for the drop this season are three from Fulham, Albion, Brighton and Palace.
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Sandwell reminded me of us last season, good start without scoring then eventually the opposition gain control and any optimism is readily extinguished by the concession of a few goals and you end up looking pretty abject.
We did seem to arrest that somewhat after the lockdown, let's hope Sandwell don't.
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I think Fulham and Albion will score a fair few goals this season but I also think they will concede quite a few too. I think Leeds will be the opposite. Despite their goal fest of a game on Saturday I think they will be a similar side to Sheffield United last season and keep it tight at the back and nick wins by the odd goal or two but I don't think they will finish in the top half like Sheffield United did. My tips for the drop this season are three from Fulham, Albion, Brighton and Palace.
West Ham as well, they've not added anything to their squad since last year and stayed up mostly because Antonio had a purple patch at just the right time. On top of that there's clearly shit going on behind the scenes.
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I think Fulham and Albion will score a fair few goals this season but I also think they will concede quite a few too. I think Leeds will be the opposite. Despite their goal fest of a game on Saturday I think they will be a similar side to Sheffield United last season and keep it tight at the back and nick wins by the odd goal or two but I don't think they will finish in the top half like Sheffield United did. My tips for the drop this season are three from Fulham, Albion, Brighton and Palace.
I think Palace will be fine. Eze and Batshuayi are good signings, and if they get Benrahma too that is a very decent front 3, irrespective of Zaha leaving.
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I can't see it happening, but Ings has been linked to Spurs. I think Southampton would struggle if they sold him or there's any re-occurrence of his injury woes
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My tips for the drop this season are three from Fulham, Albion, Brighton and Palace.
Shit! Now I'm worried.
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Wolves 2 up inside the first 6 minutes. Could be a long old season for Sheffield United. Their 'keeper looks awful.
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Wolves 2 up inside the first 6 minutes. Could be a long old season for Sheffield United. Their 'keeper looks awful.
I went out and spent five minutes in the back garden with the dog and came back in to find I had missed two goals.
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Traore tearing Enda a new one.
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Wolves 2 up inside the first 6 minutes. Could be a long old season for Sheffield United. Their 'keeper looks awful.
£18m worth; and some are questioning the Martinez fee.
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Gonna win the league ay they?
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Adama Traore looks completely muscle bound.
Surprised he can run at all.
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Adama Traore looks completely muscle bound.
Surprised he can run at all.
I wonder who scratches his back?
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I had Wolves to win 2-1 at 9/1 so a Sheffield United consolation goal would be splendid.
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Sheffied United are one of a number of teams who have "ponderous" attacks and hope to scratch a result through defensive solidity. Chasing a game, and they're able to call on McGoldrick, the striker that their fans love, but who, crucially, just doesn't score. And Billy Sharp wasn't a PL-level striker when he was 24, much less 34.
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Without what a stupidly long European campaign to hinder them Wolves will likely have a very good season. Sheff Utd could be found out.
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I've no doubt he'll go on to be brilliant and all that but Havertz looks miles off the pace in this one.
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Lalana lasts 43 minutes before getting injured, made of glass.
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Lalana lasts 43 minutes before getting injured, made of glass.
Then spends 5 minutes taking the strapping off both legs before leaving the pitch!
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My tips for the drop this season are three from Fulham, Albion, Brighton and Palace.
Shit! Now I'm worried.
Please Damo don't bet on any of them as we can't afford those 4 to be safe by February.
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Woof! Excellent goal from Reece James to put Chelsea back in front.
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jammy goal 3-1
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I think Fulham and Albion will score a fair few goals this season but I also think they will concede quite a few too. I think Leeds will be the opposite. Despite their goal fest of a game on Saturday I think they will be a similar side to Sheffield United last season and keep it tight at the back and nick wins by the odd goal or two but I don't think they will finish in the top half like Sheffield United did. My tips for the drop this season are three from Fulham, Albion, Brighton and Palace.
West Ham as well, they've not added anything to their squad since last year and stayed up mostly because Antonio had a purple patch at just the right time. On top of that there's clearly shit going on behind the scenes.
Albion just don't have the players to stay up, and West Ham seem to be having quite a bit of internal turmoil and didn't have a particularly strong team to begin with. To me, those two are the most likely to go down, plus one other from about half a dozen teams.
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When Mark Noble starts criticising the Club you know there is serious problems.
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If some people claim Harry Kane is world class (which he's not) then what's Raúl Jiménez ?
Have to say superb again yesterday.
Jimenez is a better all-round striker, Kane is a better finisher, in my opinion. He's the only wolves player I'm envious of.
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Anyone else clock Maupay's appalling first half missed header?
What a sitter. My Gran could have nodded it home.
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Bellingham scored last night for Dortmund, and became their youngest ever goalscorer. Time for an open top parade or maybe a statue?
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Bellingham scored last night for Dortmund, and became their youngest ever goalscorer. Time for an open top parade or maybe a statue?
Maybe they could retire another stand?
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The noses will want the city renamed Bellingham if he scores again. I mean no Villa fan lives there anyway.
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Bournemouth v Crystal Palace went 11 - 10 on Penalties. Both from the keepers were missed at 10-10 before Bournemouth scored and Palace missed. First Penalty takers were also the last.
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Time to feel a bit silly if you're Benfica. They gave Andrija Zivkovic a free transfer this summer. He joined PAOK last week and just scored the winner for them to knock Benfica out of the Champions League.
Villa legend Jose Angel Crespo only one round away from the Champions League group stages.
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Bournemouth v Crystal Palace went 11 - 10 on Penalties. Both from the keepers were missed at 10-10 before Bournemouth scored and Palace missed. First Penalty takers were also the last.
Jeez- 21pens! Is this a record?
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Bournemouth v Crystal Palace went 11 - 10 on Penalties. Both from the keepers were missed at 10-10 before Bournemouth scored and Palace missed. First Penalty takers were also the last.
Jeez- 21pens! Is this a record?
48 is the world record. The 2005 Namibian Cup final.
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Time to feel a bit silly if you're Benfica. They gave Andrija Zivkovic a free transfer this summer. He joined PAOK last week and just scored the winner for them to knock Benfica out of the Champions League.
Villa legend Jose Angel Crespo only one round away from the Champions League group stages.
And Vertonghen kept up his excellent european games scoring record intact by netting again ;)
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Bournemouth v Crystal Palace went 11 - 10 on Penalties. Both from the keepers were missed at 10-10 before Bournemouth scored and Palace missed. First Penalty takers were also the last.
Jeez- 21pens! Is this a record?
24 taken.
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Still going, was always ok the card a with no spectators.
Training ground mentality, proves penalties are 60-70% mentality.
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bonkers shoot out
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C'mon Town!!!
Harrogate, that is.
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Harrogate undone ... 0-1.
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0-2.
Hope this isn't going to be a bastard.
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I'm not asking this because it's them - but is there a way of turning off the artificial crowd noise on this game, as it's being shown on Sky, or watching on a channel that has it turned off? I've thought the same during many other non-Premier League games lately (ie Championship games), but as far as I know you can only choose between 'crowd noise' or 'no crowd noise' in the broadcast Premier League games. I hate the artificial noise.
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I'm not asking this because it's them - but is there a way of turning off the artificial crowd noise on this game, as it's being shown on Sky, or watching on a channel that has it turned off? I've thought the same during many other non-Premier League games lately (ie Championship games), but as far as I know you can only choose between 'crowd noise' or 'no crowd noise' in the broadcast Premier League games. I hate the artificial noise.
Don't think you can unless the game is being shown on both Main Event and another football channel.
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I'm not asking this because it's them - but is there a way of turning off the artificial crowd noise on this game, as it's being shown on Sky, or watching on a channel that has it turned off? I've thought the same during many other non-Premier League games lately (ie Championship games), but as far as I know you can only choose between 'crowd noise' or 'no crowd noise' in the broadcast Premier League games. I hate the artificial noise.
Don't think you can unless the game is being shown on both Main Event and another football channel.
No crowd noise or artificial crowd noise doesn't matter to me one way or the other. When you have been married and had kids as long as I have you learn to tune out quite regularly ;)
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I'm not asking this because it's them - but is there a way of turning off the artificial crowd noise on this game, as it's being shown on Sky, or watching on a channel that has it turned off? I've thought the same during many other non-Premier League games lately (ie Championship games), but as far as I know you can only choose between 'crowd noise' or 'no crowd noise' in the broadcast Premier League games. I hate the artificial noise.
It's noisier than a normal bitters home game.
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I'm hoping Everton get into double figures tonight against Salford.
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WBA Callum Robinson 1 down 9 to go in my prediction of 10+ goals this season.
I wouldn’t class a league cup round two tie against a teams just promoted to league 2, as a goal in top flight career classification.
Had he being playing for Preston v tonights opposition he probably would have banged in a hatrick.
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Looks like the Villa round 3 tie will be played Thursday 24th September and then if we progress round 4 match Thursday 1st October.
Thanks for that. I have reserved both nights to watch the Villa win.
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I had never heard of Salford football club or the place til the documentary on BBC and sky.
Never heard of Salford? L.S. Lowry, Tony Warren, Shelagh Delaney and Ewan MacColl will be spinning in their graves.
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Brentford tearing Southampton a new one tonight.
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Everyone’s second team Marcelo Bielsa’s Leeds losing at home. Maybe they want to tank this to help them stay up.
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I had never heard of Salford football club or the place til the documentary on BBC and sky.
Not surprising, the BBC hardly ever mention the place despite being based there. ;)
I wouldn't worry about it, it's a dirty old town.
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I had never heard of Salford football club or the place til the documentary on BBC and sky.
Not surprising, the BBC hardly ever mention the place despite being based there. ;)
I wouldn't worry about it, it's a dirty old town.
Isn't that about Wigan, or am I thinking of Homeward Bound?
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I had never heard of Salford football club or the place til the documentary on BBC and sky.
Not surprising, the BBC hardly ever mention the place despite being based there. ;)
I wouldn't worry about it, it's a dirty old town.
Isn't that about Wigan, or am I thinking of Homeward Bound?
Homeward Bound is definitely Wigan and Salford is Dirty Old Town. Good songs; both.
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Dirty Old Town is definitely about Salford. Homeward Bound was written on the platform at Widnes railway station.
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Dirty Old Town is definitely about Salford. Homeward Bound was written on the platform at Widnes railway station.
That appears to be correct. Had no idea about Homeward Bound till SE mentioned it and it seems it's either Widnes or Warrington so he was on the right track (so to speak) with Wigan.
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Dirty Leeds are out.
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Leeds knocked out by Hull on penalties. Shame.
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Gutted.
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Concentrate on champions league now !
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Leeds knocked out by Hull on penalties. Shame.
Bet the 50,000 outside the ground were gutted.
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I hate bad things happening to my second-favourite team.
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I had a bet on the two live games tonight.
West Brom to win 4-1. The won 3-0.
Everton to win 4-1. They won 3-0.
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Leeds knocked out by Hull on penalties. Shame.
Mauled by the Tigers. :(
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I hate bad things happening to my second-favourite team.
*chuckle*
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Just the seventeen penalties successfully converted in the Leeds v Hull shootout.
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I couldn’t hate Leeds anymore - done me on a 7 fold tonight.
I have an insurance policy with Glasgow Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur to complete an 8 fold tomorrow.
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Quiz time - which manager described a home defeat like this last night?
"But we went toe to toe with them and I thought we were excellent, some good play, some guys playing for the first time which was really good.
"Every one of them faced it today, so I thought there were some really good performances."
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I couldn’t hate Leeds anymore - done me on a 7 fold tonight.
I have an insurance policy with Glasgow Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur to complete an 8 fold tomorrow.
Just Rangers (and Celtic), no Glasgow.
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I had never heard of Salford football club or the place til the documentary on BBC and sky.
Never heard of Salford? L.S. Lowry, Tony Warren, Shelagh Delaney and Ewan MacColl will be spinning in their graves.
Lowry yes . But only know of him as 'Manchester'. I looked up the rest. And they would all be pointless answers to me. Sorry
I've heard of Alan Bennett though!
Alan Bennett from East Yorkshire, you mean?
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Quiz time - which manager described a home defeat like this last night?
"But we went toe to toe with them and I thought we were excellent, some good play, some guys playing for the first time which was really good.
"Every one of them faced it today, so I thought there were some really good performances."
The same one with 31% possession and 1 shot on target? The stats are almost like they just put out a team to defend to try to take it to penalties.
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I couldn’t hate Leeds anymore - done me on a 7 fold tonight.
I have an insurance policy with Glasgow Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur to complete an 8 fold tomorrow.
Just Rangers (and Celtic), no Glasgow.
Zombies or Sevco will do for the former.
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Quiz time - which manager described a home defeat like this last night?
"But we went toe to toe with them and I thought we were excellent, some good play, some guys playing for the first time which was really good.
"Every one of them faced it today, so I thought there were some really good performances."
Were this club so excellent that they lost at home without managing to score a goal?
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I couldn’t hate Leeds anymore - done me on a 7 fold tonight.
I have an insurance policy with Glasgow Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur to complete an 8 fold tomorrow.
Good luck tonight! Will keep eye on fingered cross!
Will also keep an eye out on Burnley v Sheff Utd and line up Sheff Utd go with for Villa interest
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Burnley have beaten SU on penalties, so they’ll be in a right Mardy mood on Monday 👍
Mardy.
Mardy What on Earth is wrong with this autocorrect?
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Mardi is Tuesday. They should be in a Lundi mood on Monday.
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I see Dyche is fuming that a Sheff U player wasn’t sent off for following through on a tackle and badly injuring one of his players. Well he won’t get any sympathy from me!
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Mardi is Tuesday. They should be in a Lundi mood on Monday.
😊 very good!
It gave me Marty and Marcy.
‘Lundi’ would have shown a bit of style, enterprise, imagination, even accuracy...I think I’m after je ne sais quoi
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Thank you Tottenham Hotspur and Glasgow Rangers for winning my 8 fold, not retirement money but a couple of drinks.
The former definitely left it late though.
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Two amazing results there against a team with 9 men and a side from Gibraltar.
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When the other 6 were all games that could have gone either way and Tottenham Hotspur got two in the last
10 mins I will take it!
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Oporto Wanderers are 1-0 down to Stoke.
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#levels wolves are out of this non priority competition.
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it will allow them to concentrate on the Europa
oh...
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I couldn’t hate Leeds anymore - done me on a 7 fold tonight.
I have an insurance policy with Glasgow Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur to complete an 8 fold tomorrow.
Just Rangers (and Celtic), no Glasgow.
Zombies or Sevco will do for the former.
Or 'Scotland's Shame'?
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Thank you Tottenham Hotspur and Glasgow Rangers for winning my 8 fold, not retirement money but a couple of drinks.
The former definitely left it late though.
Well played!
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I couldn’t hate Leeds anymore - done me on a 7 fold tonight.
I have an insurance policy with Glasgow Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur to complete an 8 fold tomorrow.
Just Rangers (and Celtic), no Glasgow.
Zombies or Sevco will do for the former.
Or 'Scotland's Shame'?
Celtic’s European campaigns haven’t been that bad.
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I couldn’t hate Leeds anymore - done me on a 7 fold tonight.
I have an insurance policy with Glasgow Rangers and Tottenham Hotspur to complete an 8 fold tomorrow.
Just Rangers (and Celtic), no Glasgow.
Zombies or Sevco will do for the former.
Or 'Scotland's Shame'?
No, this new outfit are just starting out on their journey of shame. The team they replaced however.....
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115 major honours.....disgraceful to be second only to an Egyptian club.
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Hold it right there.
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That’s a shocking tackle by Jack Robinson for Sheff U. That it’s against Burnley is ironic in the extreme but if that’s the way they’re going to play against us on Monday I hope the ref is on his game.
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I had never heard of Salford football club or the place til the documentary on BBC and sky.
Never heard of Salford? L.S. Lowry, Tony Warren, Shelagh Delaney and Ewan MacColl will be spinning in their graves.
Lowry yes . But only know of him as 'Manchester'. I looked up the rest. And they would all be pointless answers to me. Sorry
I've heard of Alan Bennett though!
Alan Bennett from East Yorkshire, you mean?
Yes that's the chap.
Well he's from the north of England !
Alan Bennett is from Leeds. Which isn't East Yorkshire.
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Good result for Stoke which should make the 4th round a bit easier if we get past Brizzle City.
Zlatan scores as Milan scrape past Shamrock Rovers.
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James Chester could be making a quick return to Villa Park
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I had totally forgotten about tonight's Europa League schedule. Probably for the best as I doubt I would have won any money betting on it.
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Few really short bets - only won £40 off an 8 fold with a few league cup games.
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it will allow them to concentrate on the Europa
oh...
How did their 350 billon pound Chesney Hawkes, play?
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Our Callum has just scored a well taken goal to give Coventry the lead v qpr. Such a shame we couldn't keep him until 28 when he'll be full grown.
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Bayern leading Schalke 8-0.
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Bayern leading Schalke 8-0.
In defence of Schalke they are handicapped by starting every game 0-4.
Having now seen a live Small Heath game and a live Coventry game on SKY I would suggest Small Heath are the second best team currently based in Small Heath.
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Nice one Callum. Once a Villaman always a Villaman
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I tried to watch Coventry playing at that place but the lights kept dimming and the doors kept slamming upstairs so I watched the last episode of Des instead.
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Albion 1 up
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Cracking goal by Diangana - Albion 1 up at Everton
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Well that should stop the James infused wankfest in the media about Everton that erupted after their win at Spurs.
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Everton you would think should improve but Albion have been easily the better team. Hit the post now. They should be 2 up
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1-1 scrappy goal
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1-1 Calvert Lewin
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That Diangana looks very good.
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Super goal from James Rodriguez
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Well that should stop the James infused wankfest in the media about Everton that erupted after their win at Spurs.
Wrong
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2-1 Everton Rodriguez well taken goal
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Hahahaha bitters down to 10 men - Gibbs off
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Albion press self destruct button.
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Bitters down to 10
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Well that should stop the James infused wankfest in the media about Everton that erupted after their win at Spurs.
lolz.
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I wonder how Bilic feels about James going down clutching his face after a slight touch.
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Hahahaha Bilic sent off too. This is fucking brilliant
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Bilic red carded too.
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Now Bilic has been sent off.
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I wonder how Bilic feels about James going down clutching his face after a slight touch.
Got himself sent off, the massive hypocritical tw@t!
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Mike Dean!!
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Well that should stop the James infused wankfest in the media about Everton that erupted after their win at Spurs.
lolz.
You see that was much better than saying “fuck you Everton you useless twats“ after Smethwick took the lead.
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Mike Dean must be delighted giving 2 red cards in a couple of minutes.
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Mike Dean must be delighted giving 2 red cards in a couple of minutes.
aren't we all?
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That Diangana looks very good.
I said we should’ve signed him. Less than Traore too. Brilliant player.
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Fuck me 2-2
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Sandwell Town down before Xmas hopefully the way they going .How does Mike Dean who lives the other side of the Mersey ref a Everton home game?
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Isn’t he a ridiculous tranmere fan 🤔
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The Baggies are losing their Boing.
They should'nt get too upset with Mike Dean though...... they haven't had Kevin Friend yet.
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3-2 Everton
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Albion’s defending is shocking
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They are so plucky though
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they're going to need to get better at the back sharpish or they'll be well and truly fucked
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they're going to need to get better at the back sharpish or they'll be well and truly fucked
It’s ok. They signed Ivanovic.
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they're going to need to get better at the back sharpish or they'll be well and truly fucked
It’s ok. They signed Ivanovic.
he'll be Ok if they have a time machine
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What a ball that was from Rodriguez.
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LOL they are taking a battering now 4-2
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Hamez Rodríguez is a joy to watch. Sid like.
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And again, fuck me.
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What a ball that was from Rodriguez.
Yeah he's been rubbish today, apart from being really good.
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What a ball that was from Rodriguez.
He's been much better today than last week because he's been getting the ball in more dangerous areas. This is what they signed him to do.
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What a ball that was from Rodriguez.
He's been much better today than last week because he's been getting the ball in more dangerous areas. This is what they signed him to do.
You're genuinely hilarious Paul, an absolute parody of yourself.
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Make that 5-2 Calvert Lewin hat trick
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You know you’re in the shit when Calvert Lewin scores a hat trick
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Make that 5-2 Calvert Lewin hat trick
Balls - I swapped him out of my fantasy football team when we signed Watkins. Ollie, you've got some goals to score on Monday.
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I really enjoy watching Sandwell Town this season ,hard to keep up with all the goals they are letting in
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Is ivanovic playing?
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Thats Julian Dicks on the Albion bench.
He’s got a pen and paper, I’m surprised the ****** can write.
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Sandwell Town down before Xmas hopefully the way they going .How does Mike Dean who lives the other side of the Mersey ref a Everton home game?
Probably drives through the Mersey Tunnel. Or he could get a ferry.
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Calvert Lewin is turning into a top striker
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Boggies have some good attacking players but their defence is shocking - 8 in two games conceded so far.
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Make that 9 - no offside
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Thats Julian Dicks on the Albion bench.
He’s got a pen and paper, I’m surprised the ****** can write.
Is he on their back room staff. I haven’t seen any pics but the size of him at then end of his career, I’m surprised he can fit on a bench unless he had his stomach stapled or something.
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Is it too early to say that the relegation places are now any two from nineteen?
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What a ball that was from Rodriguez.
He's been much better today than last week because he's been getting the ball in more dangerous areas. This is what they signed him to do.
You're genuinely hilarious Paul, an absolute parody of yourself.
Oh fuck yourself, twat.
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I think Fulham will be fucked also for the same reason as Albion. They won’t be able to stop goals going in.
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When all said and done Hames is a cheat😂
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When all said and done Hames is a cheat😂
Oh whatever, he went down easy but so does everyone, the incident was an obvious red.
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Yes but what’s all that rolling around?
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Yeah it's annoying, but it's what everyone does these days and calling him a 'cheat' is a bit much. I mean, nobody calls those old fashioned blood-and-thunder reducer-merchants like Roy Keane 'cheats', even though they were clearly gaining an unfair advantage over more talented players and possibly endangering their fellow professionals' careers in the process.
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James is a great player and a fantastic signing. All the rest is noise.
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Yes but what’s all that rolling around?
most players do it - they're morons.
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James is a great player and a fantastic signing. All the rest is noise.
Yep.
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A very good player is one that fits into a brand new country/league/system/culture seamlessly. Rodriguez has seemingly done that and he’s only going to get better. Can he stay fit, time will tell. But to consider him anything but a very good footballer is intentionally looking for flaws and beyond what your eyes tell you.
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It’s shaping up to be a long hard season for that lot from Sandwell.
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It’s shaping up to be a long hard season for that lot from Sandwell.
they're in lockdown.
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Fulham one down inside 5 min
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Fulham and West Brom are surely in trouble
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we're still 10th and yet to play.
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Thats Julian Dicks on the Albion bench.
He’s got a pen and paper, I’m surprised the ****** can write.
Is he on their back room staff. I haven’t seen any pics but the size of him at then end of his career, I’m surprised he can fit on a bench unless he had his stomach stapled or something.
Just when you thought there are no more reasons to wish ill on the Albion then someone mentions Julian Dicks being associated with them. I’m sure he will be stressing the importance of maiming one of ours when we play them.
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fun and games at the blose game.
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Yes but what’s all that rolling around?
Like 90% of PL players you mean? It’s horrid for sure but it’s where we are. He made the most of it and he will gain a reputation soon enough - but that doesn’t excuse Gibbs putting his hands up.
Deserved red card.
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Watching showpony Leeds capitulate to Fulham is hilarious.
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You cannot concede this many goals and hope to stay up. We nearly found that out last season. In the end the goals dry up and you keep conceding. Leeds for all the hype will be killed late on if they don’t find a way to defend better. And they always burn out by January.
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None of them seem capable of even the most basic defending. Best league in the world my arse.
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Turned on the Leeds game after seeing it was 4-3. Turned it straight off; stupid haircuts, stupid beards, diving twats, camera zooming in on Patrick Bamford's face. Wankfest commentators.
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Turned on the Leeds game after seeing it was 4-3. Turned it straight off; stupid haircuts, stupid beards, diving twats, camera zooming in on Patrick Bamford's face. Wankfest commentators.
I have never wanted to see some team fail so badly
Wankfest indeed and man buns !!!
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Turned on the Leeds game after seeing it was 4-3. Turned it straight off; stupid haircuts, stupid beards, diving twats, camera zooming in on Patrick Bamford's face. Wankfest commentators.
I have never wanted to see some team fail so badly
Wankfest indeed and man buns !!!
Haha. I never really had a problem with clubs like Leeds or Wolves. Small clubs who never do anything of note, a few mates who support them, tinpot stadiums etc etc.
But of late, both irritate me more than I should allow. Twitter's fault; absolutely crawling with their pre pubescent fans. Utter pond life, spewing twattish phrases like 'banter', 'dub', 'levels', 'scenes', 'limbs', 'saltiness'..the list goes on. I wish liquidation on both.
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I don't mind Leeds winning today PROVIDING they think Patrick Bamford is good enough to lead their attack this season.
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Surely Bielsa needs to retire for his family's sake, he looks too close to a heart attack going through all that.
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Turned on the Leeds game after seeing it was 4-3. Turned it straight off; stupid haircuts, stupid beards, diving twats, camera zooming in on Patrick Bamford's face. Wankfest commentators.
Being follically challenged, I'm glad ridiculous rough as guts lockdown mullets in all weird and wonderful forms are having a renaissance over here. It's a relief from all that pampered seriousness.
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United 1 down Andros Townsend for Palace
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Surely Bielsa needs to retire for his family's sake, he looks too close to a heart attack going through all that.
Agreed. I saw an interview last week and thought his breathing was very short, most concerning.
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Turned on the Leeds game after seeing it was 4-3. Turned it straight off; stupid haircuts, stupid beards, diving twats, camera zooming in on Patrick Bamford's face. Wankfest commentators.
Hahahaha. I did the same.
The continued media love in over everything Leeds is sickening.
I am desperate for them to royally fuck up.
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Jordan Ayew is such a ditz, he's going to get another go. No crowds and decisions are oh so different at OT.
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Woah, hold on. If the penalty has to be retaken, surely the taker has to be the same? Otherwise it's not a retake, it's a new penalty.
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Hahaha, get fucked manure. Never a penalty in a million years though.
VAR is an absolute load of shit.
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Very harsh penalty, but who cares?
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Woah, hold on. If the penalty has to be retaken, surely the taker has to be the same? Otherwise it's not a retake, it's a new penalty.
They make up the rules as they go along.
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Man U for all their hype and bravado have looked absolute shit and deserve to be losing. Palace will likely win their first two games against Southampton and Man U having ended the season looking awful. So odd.
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Ha ha ha, pigeons coming home to roost for Man U. Dreadful penalty decision, then bollocks decision to have it retaken after a shit effort from Ayew. How do you like that you twats?
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Man U got something like 20 pens last year. Fuck them
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"Oh dear, how sad, never mind!" - Windsor Davies from back in the day
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Don’t need Jack I hear you say?
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Man U got something like 20 pens last year. Fuck them
Konsa karma.
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Pretty funny to watch
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3-1, very good display from Palace.
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Before we get too smug, what if the extra week of competitive football that Palace have had is mainly responsible for this result? We are also playing our first proper competitive game of the season on Monday.
And while I hate ManU with a passion, whenever no-mark teams get these kinds of results against them it makes me the more upset that we never seem to be able to.
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Ha ha ha, pigeons coming home to roost for Man U. Dreadful penalty decision, then bollocks decision to have it retaken after a shit effort from Ayew. How do you like that you twats?
Just need to see Solskjaer moaning and whinging in his post match whilst trying to act the big time manager.
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MOTD sounds like it'll be fun tonight ;D
Karma is a bitch ain't it manure?
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Ha ha ha, pigeons coming home to roost for Man U. Dreadful penalty decision, then bollocks decision to have it retaken after a shit effort from Ayew. How do you like that you twats?
Just need to see Solskjaer moaning and whinging in his post match whilst trying to act the big time manager.
Palace will always do reasonably well against the teams regularly featuring at the top. Those teams play a high line as they expect to keep possession. It's against the teams that sit back they fail, there is little guile or killer pass in the team. Now if you had a team with a grealish and some pace, well that's a different scenario.
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However with those six points Palace are safe for another season.
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However with those six points Palace are safe for another season.
Good grief. You must clean up at the bookies with that foresight.
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Ha ha ha, pigeons coming home to roost for Man U. Dreadful penalty decision, then bollocks decision to have it retaken after a shit effort from Ayew. How do you like that you twats?
Just need to see Solskjaer moaning and whinging in his post match whilst trying to act the big time manager.
Doesn’t he just , he is an absolute cliche . Also this week moaning about ‘the kid’ greenwood needing a rest after the Season finished and not play for England, my god they had just had 3 months off with lockdown the elf like pillock
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However with those six points Palace are safe for another season.
Good grief. You must clean up at the bookies with that foresight.
Yep Hills have just paid out early.
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Ha ha ha, pigeons coming home to roost for Man U. Dreadful penalty decision, then bollocks decision to have it retaken after a shit effort from Ayew. How do you like that you twats?
Just need to see Solskjaer moaning and whinging in his post match whilst trying to act the big time manager.
Doesn’t he just , he is an absolute cliche . Also this week moaning about ‘the kid’ greenwood needing a rest after the Season finished and not play for England, my god they had just had 3 months off with lockdown the elf like pillock
I think today he ended up resting Greenwood for all of 45 minutes
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I thought Palace would struggle but you would imagine another 7 wins will keep them up.
West Brom and Fulham look like they will struggle.
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When all said and done Hames is a cheat😂
I've never been keen on Hamas either. ;)
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West Ham's away kit is shite. I thought Arsenal were playing the Felchers when I first switched on.
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I know I shouldn’t look but they are not happy on red cafe 🤔😃
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Woah, hold on. If the penalty has to be retaken, surely the taker has to be the same? Otherwise it's not a retake, it's a new penalty.
Agree, Joe. Bizarre that they allow Ayew to be 'retired' - maybe everyone felt so embarrassed by his awful penalty that they allowed Zaha to step up.
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Ayew was generally crap - never convinced by him, but today his decision-making was poor.
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I know I shouldn’t look but they are not happy on red cafe 🤔😃
Disgusting behaviour, you should be on Fred Tissue instead. ;)
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1-0 The Arse. Lacazette header.
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Did Notts County once have three players take "the same"penalty?
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You have allways been able to change the penalty taker on a retake.
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Wank defending from Arsenal. Just terrible. 1-1 Antonio
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Wank defending from Arsenal. Just terrible. 1-1 Antonio
it was a decent goal not too much with bad defending
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Good win for your boys today, DC.
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Good win for your boys today, DC.
aye just what the doctor ordered after our woeful opening game last week
watching our game and the prem games today what a contrast . think both West Brom and Fulham will struggle big time . the gulf seems to be getting bigger every year
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Apparently Saka is far better player than Grealish according to my neighbour next door but one
He is only 12 years old though
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Good win for your boys today, DC.
aye just what the doctor ordered after our woeful opening game last week
watching our game and the prem games today what a contrast . think both West Brom and Fulham will struggle big time . the gulf seems to be getting bigger every year
Well it does help if football can provide some solace these days.
Agree and as "modern football" as it is (with all that entails) if we can consolidate and build in the PL the playoff win and staying up on the last day may prove to be significant results in our history (especially with owners who don't seem merely content to make up the numbers).
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When all said and done Hames is a cheat😂
I've never been keen on Hamas either. ;)
both explosive finishers
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Spam been way better than Arse second half then, just as I suspected, Arse go and get another goal. I almost feel sorry for spam but then I remember who their owners are.
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Never, ever feel bad for West Ham.
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We are looking good mid table with games in hand😉
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At least Slaven Bilic had plenty of options where to sit when he was sent off.
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We are looking good mid table with games in hand😉
i will make judgement of that after your game on monday night against Sheffield :)
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We are looking good mid table with games in hand😉
i will make judgement of that after your game on monday night against Sheffield :)
Good result for your boys today. Helped by me backing Forest to win 2-1 and jinxing them for you. ;)
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Palace unbeaten in 5 visits to Man City and Utd. We can only dream of that
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A real modern day GITFUY! https://twitter.com/CPFC/status/1307389282068426755
The French are probably on the phone to Puma as we speak.
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Turned on the Leeds game after seeing it was 4-3. Turned it straight off; stupid haircuts, stupid beards, diving twats, camera zooming in on Patrick Bamford's face. Wankfest commentators.
Hahahaha. I did the same.
The continued media love in over everything Leeds is sickening.
I am desperate for them to royally fuck up.
I'm curious as to where this love in comes from. Is it because they hadn't been in the Premier League for a number of years? Would it be the same if Forest, Sheffield Wednesday or Oldham came up again? Is it because of Bielsa?
It certainly can't be because of their players. Maybe it's because of Noel Whelan or Michael Bridges. God only knows. Possibly due to Patrick Bamford's film star looks. It's a mystery on par with that of the Marie Celeste.
I hope you're doing well, mate.
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Love it when United lose. And as for that cock of a manager, why does no one question just how much of a bell end he is.
Now blaming Southgate and England for playing Greenwood when United wanted him rested.
Since when do they dictate national teams arrangements?
Must be being picked for England that made him chase a prozza and then be pictured doing hippy crack.
I fucking hate them
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Spot on. Compare and contrast how the two Manchester clubs have responded to Foden and Greenwood's Icelandic extra-curricular activities.
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Bayern leading Schalke 8-0.
In defence of Schalke they are handicapped by starting every game 0-4.
I am somewhat disappointed in David Wagner. I wanted him at Villa for a long while but he has been, what could sensibly be termed as, useless at Schalke.
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Love it when United lose. And as for that cock of a manager, why does no one question just how much of a bell end he is.
Now blaming Southgate and England for playing Greenwood when United wanted him rested.
Since when do they dictate national teams arrangements?
Must be being picked for England that made him chase a prozza and then be pictured doing hippy crack.
I fucking hate them
Absolutely hate them. Solskjaer is acting like Fergie did but at least he had accumulated about 20 trophies. I also thought his press conference on Friday was terrible.
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Love it when United lose. And as for that cock of a manager, why does no one question just how much of a bell end he is.
Now blaming Southgate and England for playing Greenwood when United wanted him rested.
Since when do they dictate national teams arrangements?
Must be being picked for England that made him chase a prozza and then be pictured doing hippy crack.
I fucking hate them
Absolutely hate them. Solskjaer is acting like Fergie did but at least he had accumulated about 20 trophies. I also thought his press conference on Friday was terrible.
Long may he continue
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Love it when United lose. And as for that cock of a manager, why does no one question just how much of a bell end he is.
Now blaming Southgate and England for playing Greenwood when United wanted him rested.
Since when do they dictate national teams arrangements?
Must be being picked for England that made him chase a prozza and then be pictured doing hippy crack.
I fucking hate them
Absolutely hate them. Solskjaer is acting like Fergie did but at least he had accumulated about 20 trophies. I also thought his press conference on Friday was terrible.
I don’t like the way he actually speaks. There’s something just really annoying about his voice. ‘Clooob’.
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Anyone see the disgraceful foul on Fernandes in the Palace game?
https://giphy.com/gifs/y2EGT4wOA8Uh03hYOa
One of the worst I've seen.
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Solksjaer looked completely lost on the touchline last night.
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I think everyone the media included should go easy on Solksjaer and give him encouragement and an easy life
the longer he stays there the better it is for everyone
can you imagine if they get there hands on a manager like Ancelotti it even Bielsa they would be contenders again
and no one wants that
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Jose drops Deli Alli from his squad, looks like he might be on his bike.
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Anyone see the disgraceful foul on Fernandes in the Palace game?
https://giphy.com/gifs/y2EGT4wOA8Uh03hYOa
One of the worst I've seen.
"Let's look at that again... Yes, there was contact, correct decision."
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Can't believe he didn't get a penalty for that.
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That sort of thuggery warrants a Sine Die ban!
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1 nil Saints Superb finish Danny Ings
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Contender for goal of the season already
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Southampton Spurs is a really good game so far.
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1-1 Son equalises totally against run of play
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As long as Spurs don't do anything sensible like bin Mourinho, I expect us to take at least 4 points off them this season.
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3-1 Spurs Son hat trick
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Sothampton, like quite a few teams this season, look very good attacking but piss poor in defence.
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Son with 4.
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Southampton are just horrendous at the back
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Son is just too damn good. Immense player.
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Son with 4.
Kane assist on all four, I think. Some pairing that.
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5. Kane
Southampton have been torn to shreds
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Southampton are really a Jekyll and Hyde team aren't they?
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You have to wonder what impact no fans is having on these games. I don’t know if the players are more relaxed but the play, certainly this weekend has been so much more fluid and open. Loads of goals and chances. Living here I watch a bit of basketball and they have been saying the same during the NBA playoffs. The play has been very offensive and just at a very high level. Lots of scoring.
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Southampton are really a Jekyll and Hyde team aren't they?
And Spurs.
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You have to wonder what impact no fans is having on these games. I don’t know if the players are more relaxed but the play, certainly this weekend has been so much more fluid and open. Loads of goals and chances. Living here I watch a bit of basketball and they have been saying the same during the NBA playoffs. The play has been very offensive and just at a very high level. Lots of scoring.
I said the very same thing the other day on here.
The training ground ambience will take effect more often than not the longer this goes on - and at the start of a new season with no “high risk” games - ie relegation / champs league place at risk this will become the norm for goals galore
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Penalty Brighton. Forwards tackle by saint maximin
1-0 Maupay
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2-0 Maupay again
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‘We’ll tie wor boots up’
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5. Kane
Southampton have been torn to shreds
Southampton players were just sleepwalking the game. Only reacting when it was too late. Just before the 4th goal there was a play near the touchline in front of tech area and Son managed to receive a ball turn and distribute surrounded by 4 Southampton players within a couple of yards of him.
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That Southampton right wing back is lightning fast. And they’ve clearly targeted the Newcastle full back who just cannot keep up.
Edit: meant to say Brighton FFS
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That Southampton right wing back is lightning fast. And they’ve clearly targeted the Newcastle full back who just cannot keep up.
Brighton full back - Lamptey. Never heard of him before but he’s absolutely bossing the game and murdering Saint Maximin and whoever the Newcastle full back is.
Looks like a great buy. They’ve just said he turned down an offer of a new contract at Chelsea before moving. It’s hard not to compare him to Matty Cash. At the moment I know who I would prefer, hope it changes.
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not many good defensive performances since the league started again. Goals everywhere.
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Nii Lamptey for Brighton is class.
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I wonder if Footyskillz still thinks Kane is on a downward spiral?!
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I wonder if Footyskillz still thinks Kane is on a downward spiral?!
Just the one goal and four assists.
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I wonder if Footyskillz still thinks Kane is on a downward spiral?!
Just the one goal and four assists.
almost matched Wesleys total for last season :D
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I wonder if Footyskillz still thinks Kane is on a downward spiral?!
The only downward spiral was when he was playing whilst only half fit last season. He definitely wasn't fit in the Champions League final but you can understand why they took a gamble and played him.
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Newcastle look awful and they are definitely a team who need to be at their best if they are going to win a game.
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Newcastle look awful and they are definitely a team who need to be at their best if they are going to win a game.
they're the sort to shithouse away games and nick points. At home they're dreadful.
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If we don’t finish above Newcastle then there will be something seriously wrong. Andy Carrol fnarr. 🤣
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Southampton are really a Jekyll and Hyde team aren't they?
And Spurs.
Beginning to think most teams are looking that way at the moment. Having watched Man United yesterday, I hope we're ready because United sure didn't look like they were.
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Hope Matty Cash is half as good tomorrow night as Lamptey is today.
Unless he's having a purple patch, Brighton have got a helluva player on their hands.
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Cullum Wilson is just a middling player in a middling team.
I don’t think we should be concerned that chose to play for Steve Bruce.
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Cullum Wilson is just a middling player in a middling team.
I don’t think we should be concerned that chose to play for Steve Bruce.
he chose £100k a week.
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Hope Matty Cash is half as good tomorrow night as Lamptey is today.
Unless he's having a purple patch, Brighton have got a helluva player on their hands.
Absolutely. The thought of Lamptey against Taylor is terrifying.
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Heard Potato Head say after the Wet Spam game that Carroll and Wilson would terrorise defences this year.
Result. Carroll hooked off at half time against Brighton and Wilson anonymous (so far).
ps: Wilson just missed a sitter.
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Cullum Wilson is just a middling player in a middling team.
I don’t think we should be concerned that chose to play for Steve Bruce.
A striker that decides to join a Steve Bruce team is not motivated by scoring goals.
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Almiron is the worst player in the League by a mile, everything done at 100mph. That dive was pathetic.
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Almiron is the worst player in the League by a mile, everything done at 100mph. That dive was pathetic.
he's no El Ghazi.
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Brighton look far better than the toon , should be all over . Faster more expansive . Newcastle look a team of plodders
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About to say the same. Fair play to Villa fan Graham Potter. With limited resources he’s done a very solid job there.
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About to say the same. Fair play to Villa fan Graham Potter. With limited resources he’s done a very solid job there.
You're not supposed to talk about Potter like that - you have to say he's "worked his magic" or some such. It's the rules.
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About to say the same. Fair play to Villa fan Graham Potter. With limited resources he’s done a very solid job there.
That basouma looks good in centre mid , all be it against a cart horse Steve Bruce team
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0-3
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Brighton look far better than the toon , should be all over . Faster more expansive . Newcastle look a team of plodders
I can't believe how comfortable Brighton look against this plodding opposition. And, the Magician, Potter, even has good off-the-bench options to mix things up a bit.
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3 nil. Woorrrr we have one of those deeeys where we haven’t put our boots on
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And there's the third, Barcodes look absolutely dire. Fair play to Brighton.
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Imagine if the Saudi's take over went through and Wor Steve was managing Mbappe. Fucking hell.
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What a very good result for Brighton this is. Brilliant
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Fucking hell, that looked nasty on the replay.
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Amongst the myriad reasons I dislike this league is the fact that we're not competing anywhere near the top (yet) so I find myself rooting for Woolwich Arsenal and Newton Heath against our rivals which is counter intuitive. I hate it.
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About to say the same. Fair play to Villa fan Graham Potter. With limited resources he’s done a very solid job there.
You're not supposed to talk about Potter like that - you have to say he's "worked his magic" or some such. It's the rules.
I know. The media will be massively condescending. They won’t talk about the legitimately excellent coaching job he and his staff has done as well player recruitment.
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Red card is the right decision there.
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Fucking hell, that looked nasty on the replay.
I call accidental and VAR have strongly influenced Friend there. One has to question, who the fuck is refereeing the games these days. Looked horrible, but clearly not done on purpose.
All about opinions I guess.
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A deserved red I think.
It's good to see referees using the pitchside monitors to review decisions.
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Red card is the right decision there.
Yep but other than that he had a great game😳
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I'm really pleased we didn't sign Kendrick.
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Fucking hell, that looked nasty on the replay.
I call accidental and VAR have strongly influenced Friend there. One has to question, who the fuck is refereeing the games these days. Looked horrible, but clearly not done on purpose.
All about opinions I guess.
I think the issue is less about intent and more about dangerous play.
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Is that an automatic 3 match ban?
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Is that an automatic 3 match ban?
I believe so mate.
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F*ck me Newcastle were awful.
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F*ck me Newcastle were awful.
Weren’t they just , we can do a lot better than that !
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About to say the same. Fair play to Villa fan Graham Potter. With limited resources he’s done a very solid job there.
Limited resources? They spent £68m in the last window and £80m in 2018/19.
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Timo Werner looks very, very quick
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Timo Werner looks very, very quick
Apparently he can run 21 miles an hour ! 😳
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I wonder if Footyskillz still thinks Kane is on a downward spiral?!
Just the one goal and four assists.
Kane's performance was masterclass. I hope Chris Jameson is not listening.
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3 nil. Woorrrr we have one of those deeeys where we haven’t put our boots on
"well there you go one of those nasty days that's the Premier League for you"
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Timo Werner looks very, very quick
Apparently he can run 21 miles an hour ! 😳
He didn’t know that was going to be called offside but that was a dreadful shot.
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Why have Lpool got their shirts on back to front ?
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You can bet he will say a version of ‘we’ve never come out the traps’, ‘you cannot be giving them a two goal start in the premier league.’ ‘Look it’s a bad start and we’ve never really recovered from it ‘’ be honest.’
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Red for Christiansen via on field VAR check. Absolutely right decision
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Why have Lpool got their shirts on back to front ?
The design of the collar is soooo naff!
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Correct decision red card for me there.
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VAR seems to be working almost flawlessly so far this season.
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The handballs have been abysmal.
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I'm just in and switched on the Chelsea/Liverpool game in time to see the replay of the sending off. No complaints from me about that but did I hear the commentator state that "this is the first time in eighty-nine games Chelsea have had a man sent off"? That's two and a quarter seasons of league games!
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That’s a lovely goal by Mane. Great move
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Kepa £78m 😂😂
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Chelsea: the one club who I want to lose regardless of who they are playing.
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Lampard seems to have a bit of a mental block about Mount. At half-time, he decides to take off Havertz who had had a good first half; leaving 2 strikers on the pitch. Mount is a one-trick pony, IMHO, and most managers would have taken one of their front men off to keep more depth in the middle.
Well, Chelsea are paying for it, and this could be 4 or 5 by the end (particularly with Tomori on the pitch!).
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Kepa £78m 😂😂
Dodgy Kepa!
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Loftus-Cheek not in the squad today ....
... just saying.
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What an absolutely shit penalty
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What an absolutely shit penalty
Another absolutely shit penalty this weekend!
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What an absolutely shit penalty
Weird little hop before he hit it.
What a ******.
I hate Chelsea. Not a single thing to like about them, ever.
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Lampard seems to have a bit of a mental block about Mount. At half-time, he decides to take off Havertz who had had a good first half; leaving 2 strikers on the pitch. Mount is a one-trick pony, IMHO, and most managers would have taken one of their front men off to keep more depth in the middle.
Well, Chelsea are paying for it, and this could be 4 or 5 by the end (particularly with Tomori on the pitch!).
And Mount stays on!
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What an absolutely shit penalty
Weird little hop before he hit it.
What a ******.
I hate Chelsea. Not a single thing to like about them, ever.
I agree with pauliewalnuts.
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I agree with both of you and millions of others.
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No draws so far this season, which seems strange given that there's almost two full rounds of games completed.
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No draws so far this season, which seems strange given that there's almost two full rounds of games completed.
Pile on the cash for tomorrow night's 0-0
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Just catching up. Didn't know Graham Potter was a Villa fan. He's gone up in my estimation.
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Leicester v Burnley update. Score 1 - 1.......
.......Mee hasn't crippled any one yet.
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With Burnley drawing we have slipped from second to thirteenth in the space of 7 days. Surely Smith can not keep his job after this. Get rid now!
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Seeing as we are debate on what makes a decent claret and blue shirt every season, what do we think of the Burnley shirt? The blue is a bit too light a la West Ham and the claret is bit darker than what we are used to, maybe a bit maroon. Design wise it’s not too bad though although I would go for blue socks every time.
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As long as Spurs don't do anything sensible like bin Mourinho, I expect us to take at least 4 points off them this season.
i,ve noted that
With Bale on loan for a year I expect spurs to be challenging top 6 this season
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No draws so far this season, which seems strange given that there's almost two full rounds of games completed.
Pile on the cash for tomorrow night's 0-0
I may have made this up, though I don't think I have, but I think we've drawn more games than any other team.
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RMC Sports are having a frenzied tug and mutual reach around over Bielsa during HT
Apparently there's a film coming out about the trampy Argie. They've got Bielsa street art and everything in Leeds.
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Was that Todd Alquist who scored for the duckies?
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I reckon conceding 7 goals in 2 games is a bit of a sign that you're probably not meant for this league.
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I never knew Ian Wright had played for Burnley
he even got promotion with them
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RMC Sports are having a frenzied tug and mutual reach around over Bielsa during HT
Apparently there's a film coming out about the trampy Argie. They've got Bielsa street art and everything in Leeds.
It's grim up north.
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I never knew Ian Wright had played for Burnley
he even got promotion with them
I’d forgotten About that too.
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Leicester walk in a third.
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3-1. *Simpsons Ha Ha Gif* Kit-stealing ALM twats!
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Quality Sunday morning sidelines shout there!
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Quality Sunday morning sidelines shout there!
Ha ha ha. Yep, noticed that. Leicester are playing very well or is it that Burnley are poor?
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Come on Burnley, 3-2 now courtesy of the Town.
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Quality Sunday morning sidelines shout there!
Ha ha ha. Yep, noticed that. Leicester are playing very well or is it that Burnley are poor?
Burnley are dreadful. And just scored a classic Burnley rugby league goal
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The more the goals fly in the more I can see us and SU serve up a goaless pile of tripe.
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Quality Sunday morning sidelines shout there!
Ha ha ha. Yep, noticed that. Leicester are playing very well or is it that Burnley are poor?
Burnley are dreadful. And just scored a classic Burnley rugby league goal
Aerial chance again against Justin, the Leicester 2.
Leicester with a fourth. Pick that one out!
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62 goals in 16 PL games so far. Boring, boring Championship, 49 in 24.
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62 goals in 16 PL games so far. Boring, boring Championship, 49 in 24.
stick us down for a 0-0 then
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Manchester City are looking to equal Aston Villa's record of winning 10 consecutive opening fixtures to a top-flight season, set between 1891 and 1900.
Let's hope it's a draw then.
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Wolves seen to have a hoodoo over Citeh at the moment. Think they have won all their meetings since they came back up.
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18 games in and there hasn’t been a draw in the Prem yet
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Dogheads 1 down to a KdB penalty.
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2 down.
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first goal was stupid by Saiss
Second was sloppy and a cheap give away by Adama Traore.
Sloopy by Wolves which we didn't see much of last season.
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Mind the gap Dogheads! :)
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Watching City shows the GULF between us and them - not one of our first 11 would get close to being in City’s first 11. And it’s not just the fancy stuff - they do the hard dirty work incredibly well too.
Getting into top 10 will be difficult, competing with this lot is going to have to wait years
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Watching City shows the GULF between us and them - not one of our first 11 would get close to being in City’s first 11. And it’s not just the fancy stuff - they do the hard dirty work incredibly well too.
Getting into top 10 will be difficult, competing with this lot is going to have to wait years
That being a team who've spent a billion pounds plus and the past ten years competing for the title. Of course it's not going to happen quickly.
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I don't think the yardstick of where we are right now is Man City.
If we can finish between 10th and 14th this season without ever really being in danger, then that will be good, solid progress.
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Its turning out to be a enjoyable night with the Dogheads being two down and totally outplayed
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Manchester bossing this game so far
they look unstoppable tonight
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I know they are winning but I think that that Manchester City shirt is the worst football top I have ever seen.
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I know they are winning but I think that that Manchester City shirt is the worst football top I have ever seen.
A chap I work with said it looks like an STD.
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I know they are winning but I think that that Manchester City shirt is the worst football top I have ever seen.
Has anyone told city that 1970 called and they want their paisley back. What a sack of puke
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Manchester bossing this game so far
they look unstoppable tonight
They look like Tottenham from a distance
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2-1 as good as they were first half Citeh have been shit this half.
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3-1
Citeh game over.
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fair play to wolves or as you lot call them dog heads -lol they gave them a good game second half although losing the game 3-1 in the end .
think they will pip Liverpool to win the prem this season
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Who the dog heads?!
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Above the Dogheads with a game in hand mind the gap
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I don’t call them that. I just call them by their name like I’d do with any other club who are irrelevant to me.
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I know they are winning but I think that that Manchester City shirt is the worst football top I have ever seen.
No Sheffileld United's shirt tonight is the worse I have seen and anybody else's who play in PINK!
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What was Traore doing at the end for Man City's 3rd? Just stood there ball watching from about 6 feet away.
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What was Traore doing at the end for Man City's 3rd? Just stood there ball watching from about 6 feet away.
He was costing me money because I backed Citeh to win 2-1.
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Boing Boing ooops
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Ah well they can concentrate on getting relegated.
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Such is the diminished status of the League Cup, I was amazed that no one had bothered mentioning the Bitters demise on penalties to Brentford.
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Them and penalties eh😀.
I trust they were the better team etc etc
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They drew with Man Utd once!
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Such is the diminished status of the League Cup, I was amazed that no one had bothered mentioning the Bitters demise on penalties to Brentford.
It is a shame Albion are out. I like to see a small local club have a bit of a run in the cup. At least they won't have to suffer another cup defeat to Villa until January at the earliest.
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Manure have sent out a strong side on paper but they are making hard work of seeing off Luton.
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They drew with Man Utd once!
And nearly played at Wembley couple of seasons ago and in 2015......
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Bitters dumped out by Brentford on penalties. Them and the dog heads can create joint threads to follow us along with the rags.
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Manure won 3-0. I backed them to win 4-0. To be honest they were lucky to score three, it was a rather laboured performance.
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Anyone else finding themselves with a strong soft spot for Brentford, after all this? They seem such a well run club with good football and (in my experience) really likeable fans, and if they got their day in the sun with promotion to the PL I'd be delighted.
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Anyone else finding themselves with a strong soft spot for Brentford, after all this? They seem such a well run club with good football and (in my experience) really likeable fans, and if they got their day in the sun with promotion to the PL I'd be delighted.
Yes. My local club, and I always want them to do well. Shame they left Griffin Park, which was a great old ground.
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That was Sandwell Town's seventh home game on the bounce in the League Cup and they still manage to make a early exit .
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Bitters dumped out by Brentford on penalties. Them and the dog heads can create joint threads to follow us along with the rags.
We had better beat Bristol first. We won't look too clever if we tell Albion and Wolves fans this and then immediately get dumped out of the comp ourselves.
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Bit like the dog heads telling us to mind the gap last weekend!
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It looks like Leicester are going to let me down for a 67/1 sixfold.
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Every favourite winning or won on the one night I was out and too late to place an acca.
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Amount of goals again definitely correlated to no fans.
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How do you work that out? We stuck 6 past Crewe last season with fans, Chelsea scored 7 last season with fans, and so on.
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Amount of goals at the start of the season league and Cup is way above average and will continue, what’s the anomaly?
It’s not rocket science.
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Good grief.
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Absolutely good grief, bother Joelinton and Haller grabbing a brace each showing the standard of these early matches and empty grounds.
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Yep. I remember the Saints stadium being totally empty last year, (although it might have been close by the time the 7th went in).
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Joelinton scored?
Deliberately?
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Just saw Tammy's goal last night. Hahahahah, that defender will be having years of sleepless nights reliving getting mugged like that.
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BBC Live text describing something I would rather not see.
Live Reporting
Gary Rose and Emlyn Begley
NEW
Posted at 20:2920:29
Post update
Lincoln 0-4 Liverpool
Divock Origi slices a shit in the penalty and it goes well over the bar.
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BBC Live text describing something I would rather not see.
Live Reporting
Gary Rose and Emlyn Begley
NEW
Posted at 20:2920:29
Post update
Lincoln 0-4 Liverpool
Divock Origi slices a shit in the penalty and it goes well over the bar.
Took a screen dump when I saw it!
(https://i.ibb.co/WtQrbRB/485-C990-D-BD6-D-4-C0-F-AB48-EE3-E6-BBAF36-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WtQrbRB)
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Get in Gers 2-0!
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They’ve changed it now.
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Get in Gers 2-0!
Why..have you got them on the coupon?
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Reminds me of
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(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/130/590x/secondary/Halesowen-Town-response-700253.jpg)
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Get in Gers 2-0!
Why..have you got them on the coupon?
Not this evening, never fancied them winning in the Netherlands in the 90.
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Faroese team KI beat Dinamo Tbilisi 6-1 at home just now.
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Get in Gers 2-0!
Thought you'd be cheering for Willem.
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When they play PSV I do.
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Faroese team KI beat Dinamo Tbilisi 6-1 at home just now.
Brilliant result, hopefully you'll play Dundalk in the next round (gone to ET). :)
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Good job there are no crowds at Lincoln otherwise I don't think Liverpool would have scored 5 past them.
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This season it's not tough to put 5 past a team called Lincoln. 2nd time in a week.
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1-5 Lincoln make it interesting.
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BBC Live text describing something I would rather not see.
Live Reporting
Gary Rose and Emlyn Begley
NEW
Posted at 20:2920:29
Post update
Lincoln 0-4 Liverpool
Divock Origi slices a shit in the penalty and it goes well over the bar.
Took a screen dump when I saw it!
(https://i.ibb.co/WtQrbRB/485-C990-D-BD6-D-4-C0-F-AB48-EE3-E6-BBAF36-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WtQrbRB)
Don't start an excremate pun fest....
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Just the 11 goals In 3 ties tonight.
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I didn't know the Etihad allowed crowds in for this match.
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Anfield was empty for the 5-5 in the 4th round last season.
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13 goals.
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1-5 Lincoln make it interesting.
2-6 anyone's game.
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Gers 3-0.
Game over!
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Gers 3-0.
Game over!
Think you'll find that's "Glasgow Rangers 3-0"
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Both Glasgow clubs with fine results this evening.
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Who do people who are obsessed with the colour orange and Dutch blokes called William support in that game? Must be very confusing for the "Rangers" fans. Mind you, so are non-velcro shoes.
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4-0 Gers, easy easy.
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Gers 3-0.
Game over!
Think you'll find that's "Glasgow Rangers 3-0"
No such thing as Glasgow Rangers.
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Faroese team KI beat Dinamo Tbilisi 6-1 at home just now.
Brilliant result, hopefully you'll play Dundalk in the next round (gone to ET). :)
KI Klaksvík v Dundalk (Faroe Islands vs Ireland) next week for a place in the EL group stages. Big deal for both teams I'd imagine.
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Galatasaray at Ibrox next round for the super Gers.
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Anfield was empty for the 5-5 in the 4th round last season.
And VP was empty when we put 5 past them in the quarters.
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I thought the GERS was the report on Scottish government spending?
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I thought the GERS was the report on Scottish government spending?
Seems doubtful, could a Scotch government overspend to such a degree that they'd have to be liquidated?
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Impressive from Bayern, always turn up In finals that don’t involve teams from Britannia.
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Except for that time when they beat an English side in a European Cup final
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Except for that time when they beat an English side in a European Cup final
If your knuckles scrape the floor, your forehead keeps the rain off the rest of your face, and you've developed a weird obsession with a team that did actually win the same fixture, that didn't happen.
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Except for that time when they beat an English side in a European Cup final
I thought the English Team won, or at least won the moral victory. The way Dirty L%%ds talk about it you would have thought they won.
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So new EFL or new FA rules that if you can't fulfil your fixture due to CV, you forfeit the game?
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Bayern never lost any finals, not just European ones, any finals at all, until 1982. Had won about 20 out of 20 before that.
We utterly broke them. Haven't bothered to check but pretty sure they've been shite ever since.
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How the hell did Huddersfield not score and wrap it up there? Three or four of them could and should have as good as walked it in.
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How the hell did Huddersfield not score and wrap it up there? Three or four of them could and should have as good as walked it in.
I would think Lamouchi will be getting his ticket very shortly.
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Brighton v Man Utd.
SkyBet are offering Even Money for Bruno Fernandes to have 1 shot on target.
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Bayern never lost any finals, not just European ones, any finals at all, until 1982. Had won about 20 out of 20 before that.
We utterly broke them. Haven't bothered to check but pretty sure they've been shite ever since.
That's brilliant and shows what a class victory Villa was.
When Champions played Champions.
And to be honest the Champions league now doesn't always give the best teams in the final.
Bayern Munich v PSG were their national league champions and the best 2 performing teams this year and was worthy final.
But year before ?
I remember have a disagreement with a Spurs friend when they reached the Euro cup final telling him that even if Spurs won the cup they wouldn't be the best team in Europe to me.
He was adamant too they would win it!
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Who were the last English Euro winners who were also Champs in the season they qualified?
I'm assuming Manure or Chelsea during that dour final back in 07 or so.
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Brighton much more effective in their plays so far. Manure appear clueless in attack.
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ManU must be desperately hoping VAR finds some form this season. Been totally off the pace for them so far.
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Brighton are quite aggressive - they attack with good pace.
United too sloppy and slow. They need a rocket.
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Luke Shaw resembles a pub player.
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Luke Shaw resembles a pub player.
Bit of a plodder these days.
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Man Uniturd.
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Pen BHA.
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Bloody hell how cool was that 1-0.
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Man Uniturd.
I prefer Meh Utd these days.
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Dwight Yorke cool.
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That should have been a red for Matic.
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Man Uniturd.
I prefer Meh Utd these days.
Man Urinal
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Bloody hell how cool was that 1-0.
Shame it was Fernandes that gave it away, the cheating ****!
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Slabhead has equalised.
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Found that funny, Mcmanna laughing at the Brighton goal .
Maupay took penalty with a little chip with great panache and could hear how much Mcmanna enjoyed it
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Slabhead has equalised.
Well it was Dunk but they look a like lumberjack centre backs
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I know Dean Smith said all the right things about Suso but I do now wonder would he have sighed Maupay vs Wes given more of a final say?
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I'm torn between ManU losing for the 2nd weekend running, and the baby faced assassin getting the boot and them accidentally bringing in someone who knows what they're doing. fuck it, Brighton to win and screw the consequences.
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Brighton penalty again
Edit: overturned and absolutely right decision
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Man Uniturd.
I prefer Meh Utd these days.
Man Urinal
ManUre
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Heh. VAR to the rescue. I'm shocked. No really.
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Man U in front
Erm...or not
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I'm torn between ManU losing for the 2nd weekend running, and the baby faced assassin getting the boot and them accidentally bringing in someone who knows what they're doing. fuck it, Brighton to win and screw the consequences.
An uninspiring draw will do just fine.
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That’s a super goal by Rashford
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larf! oh man.
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Brighton have hit the woodwork 4 times
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That’s a super goal by Rashford
My Leeds mate claimed Ben White was the next best thing well both he and Lamptey were exposed for the players that they are currently . Learning their trade and understanding tactical discpline and art of defending.
Lamptey way upfield , good fun attacking but ropey defensively a poor cross by him saw Fernandes play a ridiculous weighted pass to Rashford. And Ben white was made a mug . Fair enough going well in the championship with Leeds but this is next level and I don't really see White as good as Konsa.
Konsa for me is an excellent defender.
Don't really like Brighton and they will be perhaps one we look to over take so bigger picture and man utd win is what's wanted for me and villa fans seeing the league picture
True. Its striking a correct balance between ManU having a disastrous season and them gifting points to the teams in our mini-league. Brighton to win, Man u in the bottom 4, season cancelled and positions stand.
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An uninspiring draw will do just fine.
No in competing league always look the bigger picture.
The likelihood is that Brighton are the team to compete and get by this season.
Make them lose
I'm looking at the bigger picture and Brighton in the rear view mirror. ;)
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Villa moving up the table nicely while sitting reading the paper with a pipe and slippers. Or whatever modern footballers do to pass the time these days.
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Fergie time 😂
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Lovely stuff. enough to keep the ManU in crisis stories running, not enough to get Ole the tintack
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Fuck off VAR
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When I hear Sully March I always hear the priest from Temple of Doom. Sully Maaarch, Sully Maaarch....
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Well I hope they think everything is ok at manure.
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Fuck off!
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Fergie time 😂
Holy shit. When a joke backfires
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Um....well..that was an interesting end to the match
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5 extra minutes of injury time?
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Yet another penalty for the flukey bastards.
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When I hear Sully March I always hear the priest from Temple of Doom. Sully Maaarch, Sully Maaarch....
(https://i.ibb.co/LNcLp0r/32d1eb8e48a9a5648c28a3d433f12eaf.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LNcLp0r)
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And VAR does it again for them. They're gonna struggle to hold on to him.
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Anyone watching Soccer Saturday? Lescott saying that it’s probably good for us not playing in front of fans because they tend to get on the players backs easily?
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That’s a super goal by Rashford
My Leeds mate claimed Ben White was the next best thing well both he and Lamptey were exposed for the players that they are currently. Learning their trade and understanding tactical discpline and art of defending....
Rashford will make a mug of a few EPL defenders - because he's a super footballer.
You seem quick to write players off, Footy: White and Lamptey may or may not make the upper echelons of excellence, but alot of people - people better qualified than you and me - rate them very highly. As Konsa and Luiz found last season, it takes a while to get up with the pace.
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And VAR does it again for them. They're gonna struggle to hold on to him.
Who?
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Lucky lucky United, how cruel was that on Brighton, on another day they could have won comfortably, but what an incident packed match.
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Anyone watching Soccer Saturday? Lescott saying that it’s probably good for us not playing in front of fans because they tend to get on the players backs easily?
That thought occurred to me recently, Jane.
Dean and others have mentioned about missing the crowd, but it is palpable at VP when the crowd is nervous or pissed off. Maybe the empty stadium is working for us.
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And VAR does it again for them. They're gonna struggle to hold on to him.
Who?
VAR - the 12th man for manure.
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And VAR does it again for them. They're gonna struggle to hold on to him.
Who?
VAR - the 12th man for manure.
Doh - gotcha.
Thx :-)
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Since last season Man U have recieved more penalties than any other team in Europe. Obviously this is because they're so good they are always in the oppositions penalty area compared with the likes of Man C and Liverpool ::)
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Hopefully Chelsea will thrash the Albion later to cheer us all up!
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Anyone watching Soccer Saturday? Lescott saying that it’s probably good for us not playing in front of fans because they tend to get on the players backs easily?
That thought occurred to me recently, Jane.
Dean and others have mentioned about missing the crowd, but it is palpable at VP when the crowd is nervous or pissed off. Maybe the empty stadium is working for us.
To be fair, I did think that too - just made me laugh that Lescott said it! We just don’t like you..... :)
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You could almost tolerate them getting all the luck and decisions under Fergie as they were the best side in the country. But now, they're rank average and dire to watch, you'd close your blinds if they were in your back garden, yet VAR constantly spawns these twats points they don't deserve.
Certainly a penalty. But why the fuck were they still playing?
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Hopefully Chelsea will thrash the Albion later to cheer us all up!
Annoyingly Pulisic (arguably their best player) and Ziyech both still out injured
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"He's here, he's there,
He's every-fkn-where,
Vee-ay-arr, Vee-ay-arrrr"
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Hopefully Chelsea will thrash the Albion later to cheer us all up!
Annoyingly Pulisic (arguably their best player) and Ziyech both still out injured
So just the four-nil then?
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If you look carefully, the ref was whistling for full time about a second after the handball. So, in the context of things, the decision for the penalty was strictly speaking correct. However, he should have blown for full time at least 30 seconds before that incident. If that had happened against us I would have been furious.
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Fixed...
Since last season Man U have recieved more penalties than any other team in Europe put together.
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Always want Man Utd to lose but the good points are
we have more chance of finishing above a Brighton than Man U
the one thing worse than a bad manager is a manager who just does enough to save his job
I want Solksjier to stay at Utd for a long time so just doing enough is actually a good thing in the long term
(I might have spelled his name wrong but can’t be bothered to look it up and also don’t give a fuck)
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United look like a midtable side with some top level players. There's no real snap in their attacking play, no real structure, just some hope that someone will do something inspired or they can catch someone on the break. The problem? Solskjaer is about as far away from a top level manager as possible, and they should ditch him for Pochettino yesterday (though obviously I hope they don't). Jack was lucky not to go there.
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Even my Man United supporting mate said it was theft of the highest order and they didn't deserve anything.
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United look like a midtable side with some top level players. There's no real snap in their attacking play, no real structure, just some hope that someone will do something inspired or they can catch someone on the break. The problem? Solskjaer is about as far away from a top level manager as possible, and they should ditch him for Pochettino yesterday (though obviously I hope they don't). Jack was lucky not to go there.
I agree with you apart from the the snap in their attacking play is just about all they have got
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Anyone watching Soccer Saturday? Lescott saying that it’s probably good for us not playing in front of fans because they tend to get on the players backs easily?
That thought occurred to me recently, Jane.
Dean and others have mentioned about missing the crowd, but it is palpable at VP when the crowd is nervous or pissed off. Maybe the empty stadium is working for us.
Think it's benefiting us when we're actually leading games. Arsenal game for last 20 minutes would've been paranoia central with a full crowd just waiting for us to concede. Instead we saw it out reasonably comfortably.
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Thought the real scandal in the Man. United game was the ref giving 5 minutes added time, Brighton scoring in the last 10 seconds of that and then another 90 seconds being found from nowhere to give Man. United time to win a corner, wait 30 seconds for likes of Maguire to come up for it and it to get taken (seen many games abroad when a ref will blow for FT after they give a corner).
Apparently it swung out of play aswell?
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United look like a midtable side with some top level players. There's no real snap in their attacking play, no real structure, just some hope that someone will do something inspired or they can catch someone on the break. The problem? Solskjaer is about as far away from a top level manager as possible, and they should ditch him for Pochettino yesterday (though obviously I hope they don't). Jack was lucky not to go there.
I agree with you apart from the the snap in their attacking play is just about all they have got
On the break where there's space they have it, and sometimes the individuals find a way, either individually or in combination. Against massed defences though their attacking lacks the sense that they've planned for this crazy situation, which is why they remind me of a midtable side.
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T-Rex arms should do better there.
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Never a handball.
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We need to tell all of our players just kick or head the ball at the oppositions arms because it's a guaranteed penalty this season.
Grealish will have a field day.
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Fergie will be very annoyed today. Yes he had the absolute command on refs not blowing till his team scored but he never ever won a match after the final whistle had been blown. Rita has one up on him.
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Never a handball.
I'd have given both.
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VAR is becoming even more of a joke. We could have been safe in March if we'd just told Davis and Samatta to smash the ball at the defenders arms instead of trying to shoot .Actually we could convert Davis into a specialist Apendage striking forward to take advantage.
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Damo, if you're around what are the odds on Blues winning 1-0?
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Eze looks a good prospect and would have fitted perfectly in our team
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Eze looks a good prospect and would have fitted perfectly in our team
He wanted to stay in London.
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And that’s 2020 for you
https://twitter.com/skysports/status/1309873613026152453?s=10
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Now they’re playing Rotherham, Rotherham at home. 0-1
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Birmingham 0 Rotherham 1
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Now they’re playing Rotherham, Rotherham at home. 0-1
That's a nice surprise.
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Rotherham one up against Small Heath at the sty with a late penalty.
The Derby manager might be feeling the pressure after todays defeat at home to Blackburn.
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Damo, if you're around what are the odds on Blues winning 1-0?
Seeing as it is now 1-1 I reckon the odds on Blues 1-0 will be massive mate ;)
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Damo, if you're around what are the odds on Blues winning 1-0?
Seeing as it is now 1-1 I reckon the odds on Blues 1-0 will be massive mate ;)
Ha!
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Derby played 3 lost 3, 4 nil against Blackburn!
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I fancy Tammy scoring a pen at the baggies today.
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I fancy Tammy scoring a pen at the baggies today.
They're going to batter the boggies
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After all the penalties Manure were awarded last season today they were awarded one after the final whistle. It won't be long before they are being awarded penalties before the kick off.
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that Chelsea kit is vile.
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Dear me: is Lampard up to the job?! - I'm not convinced by him (wasn't at Derby either).
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Fuck off albion.
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Sitter missed by Tammy ...
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Bloody hell Tammy. I'm laughing, that was shit.
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the German Scot Hogan misses a sitter
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Chelsea should be ahead by now, hope thy don't fuck it up because they could be in for a hatful today.
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I see Chelsea are doing their usual trick of contriving to play like absolute chumps against every team I want them to beat.
Tossbiscuits.
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WestBrom playing slightly less attacking than Sheffield United after the sending off.
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Fcukin' hell, Chelsea!!
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The Callum Robinson show
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Callum Robinson again what a start for the Baggies
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Jesus Christ, why do the "big" teams never hand us easy points like that?
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See ya later Frank, you're a fraud.
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Couldn’t help liking Callum then - written off as not good enough for this division twice - & a look to the camera that says ‘Here I am’.
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3-0
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3-0
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Jeeeeeeeeeezus!!
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Chelsea are incredibly shit here.
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First Man U win after the final whistle, now the baggies are hammering Chelsea. Football is dead to me.
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Lampard all of a sudden has started to believe his own bullshit and become too serious. I can see him getting punted.
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Jesus Christ, why do the "big" teams never hand us easy points like that?
Quite.
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WTAF?
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this is as much about Chelsea being terrible at the back as it is about WBA
but fair play to WBA - they've taken their chances
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How much have Chelsea spent again?
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Unbelievable Frank out
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The Bitters are shite defensively, but they're are certainly quick on the attack.
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Jesus Christ, why do the "big" teams never hand us easy points like that?
Quite.
Give the Baggies some credit - pretty disciplined from them.
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I'll go out on my own here and say "I(We) want 4!". Chelsea look like conceding every time WBA attack. Would be nice to see them absolutely spanked by a non-entity, opposition notwithstanding.
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Jesus Christ, why do the "big" teams never hand us easy points like that?
It feels that way. But generally speaking we don’t attack them as Albion have done today. Or when we take the lead we don’t hold it. And when we have chances to secure a game we spurn them.
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Footy will be lauding it over us re Robinson. I’m dreading it.
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How shite are Chelsea? Over £200m spent so far this Summer window. We should've bought Callum from Sheffield United! Only £6-7m?
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Abraham is anonymous
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Footy will be lauding it over us re Robinson. I’m dreading it.
Robinson isn’t this good. That’s why he couldn’t get a game at Sheff Utd. Chelsea are a disaster and spent all their money on positions they already had good players.
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Jesus Christ, why do the "big" teams never hand us easy points like that?
It feels that way. But generally speaking we don’t attack them as Albion have done today. Or when we take the lead we don’t hold it. And when we have chances to secure a game we spurn them.
that true it’s been the case so far let’s hope it changes this season
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Jesus Christ, why do the "big" teams never hand us easy points like that?
It feels that way. But generally speaking we don’t attack them as Albion have done today. Or when we take the lead we don’t hold it. And when we have chances to secure a game we spurn them.
that true it’s been the case so far let’s hope it changes this season
I think we are better equipped this season to put more pressure on ....
... I hope!
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Have to feel sorry for the Sky audio bods
"Put in the crowd noise tape for the Baggies winning 3-0 at home"
"what tape?"
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
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Tammy having a mare.
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Abraham would be better switching to Rugby with those shots over the bar so far!
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Lampard looks like believed his own hype when he was using someone else's squad but now his inexperience is showing because this is a team that have been coached against a team that only met for the first time in the changing room.
Also this sort of performance is why I don't think Tammy is worth the £50m-ish they'd be asking for, he's barely touched the ball and wasted the chances he's had.
Oh, and Mason Mount has been fucking shit as well.
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
I would guess as an allusion towards the Hawthorns as green pastures. Or perhaps as the valley of the shadow of death.
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Also this sort of performance is why I don't think Tammy is worth the £50m-ish they'd be asking for, he's barely touched the ball and wasted the chances he's had.
Oh, and Mason Mount has been fucking shit as well.
Agreed.
Let's offer them £15m plus Lansbury!!
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Chelsea are bloody awful, and their nonchalance has been fully repaid; they are clearly not as good as they think they are. Fair play to Albion thus far, they look like scoring every time they go forward. It doesn't come easy saying this, but I'm finding myself wanting Albion to go on and win.
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How much have Chelsea spent again?
Never mind that, how much did Damo put on Chelsea to win? It's the only explanation.
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Tammy having a mare.
Both chances show really poor technique from Tammy
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
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How much have Chelsea spent again?
Never mind that, how much did Damo put on Chelsea to win? It's the only explanation.
I backed Chelsea to win 2-0. For what it is worth I still think it might be an interesting second half.
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How much for Werner and Havertz? I think they cost around £125m? Chelsea's head scout did a sterling job there....!
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
Oh, okay: news to me.
But then, I've not been to their place for a long time.
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Surprised Fat Frank did not subb out Tammy.
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
Really, does the 22nd Psalm end with God inventing a trampoline
(https://i.ibb.co/hF2Qk54/Screenshot-2020-09-26-183513.png) (https://ibb.co/hF2Qk54)
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this is as much about Chelsea being terrible at the back
They addressed that, they signed Thiag....oh!
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I feel another anniversary dinner coming on.....
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Chelsea mounting a recovery
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Never mind that, how much did Damo put on Chelsea to win? It's the only explanation.
I backed Chelsea to win 2-0. For what it is worth I still think it might be an interesting second half.
Ha, hope you win. Could be a repeat of Spurzzz v Man U. :)
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
Oh, okay: news to me.
But then, I've not been to their place for a long time.
They've been singing it since at least the 70s.
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Chelsea mounting a recovery
No thanks to Grealish.
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
Oh, okay: news to me.
But then, I've not been to their place for a long time.
They've been singing it since at least the 70s.
Oh well: I am blissfully unaware of it; sorry.
I'm obviously not a Bitters aficionado.
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The heart break is on. Cmon Chelsea force a draw now!
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Come on Chelsea. 2 more goals and job done
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
Oh, okay: news to me.
But then, I've not been to their place for a long time.
They've been singing it since at least the 70s.
first time I went to the hawthorns was in the 70’s and I didn’t know that either
what words do they sing to it or is it just the lords my shepherd sung to crimond
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3-0 and you f***** it up?
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Footy will be lauding it over us re Robinson. I’m dreading it.
Robinson isn’t this good. That’s why he couldn’t get a game at Sheff Utd. Chelsea are a disaster and spent all their money on positions they already had good players.
Don't like seeing him scoring for them at all.
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
Oh, okay: news to me.
But then, I've not been to their place for a long time.
They've been singing it since at least the 70s.
first time I went to the hawthorns was in the 70’s and I didn’t know that either
what words do they sing to it or is it just the lords my shepherd sung to crimond
I went to the Hawthorns 3 times in the '70's and don't recall it.
It's created images of Dawn French ... which is not particularly exciting, TBF.
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They sing it thus;
The Lords my shepherd, I'll not want
He takes me down, to lie
In pastures green
He leadeth me, the quiet waters by.
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They sing it thus;
The Lords my shepherd, I'll not want
He takes me down, to lie
In pastures green
He leadeth me, the quiet waters by.
So, as per the psalm.
Bizarre.
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Oh Tammy Tammy
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
Really, does the 22nd Psalm end with God inventing a trampoline
(https://i.ibb.co/hF2Qk54/Screenshot-2020-09-26-183513.png) (https://ibb.co/hF2Qk54)
I am guessing God invented a trampoline just so Jesus could bounce back.
As for them singing that song for "A good 25 years" I would suggest they may have been singing it for that amount of time but it hasn't necessarily been a "good" 25 years.
3-3. I said it would go on to be a good game.
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Fabulous!!!
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ha ha ha ha
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Absolutely fucking superb
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Tammy in the 95th minute. ;D
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Tammy ;D ;D ;D
Oh dear how sad never mind.
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It had to be Tammy too. Done fuck all and then pops up to screw Albion over again
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Good lad, Tammy.
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Boing! Boing! Splat!
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Better cancel that dinner....
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They sing it thus;
The Lords my shepherd, I'll not want
He takes me down, to lie
In pastures green
He leadeth me, the quiet waters by.
So, as per the psalm.
Bizarre.
No
it’s makes me not takes me
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Kelly Cates says nobody is happy with the draw. Personally I feel perfectly happy.
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They sing it thus;
The Lords my shepherd, I'll not want
He takes me down, to lie
In pastures green
He leadeth me, the quiet waters by.
I’m in group that’s aware they’ve sung it for ages, but have absolutely no idea why they do.
Anyway, oooohh Tammy Tammy.....
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Why do the Bitters have the first line of the 23rd psalm written out on their seating facing the cameras?
They've sung it for a good 25 years.
Oh, okay: news to me.
But then, I've not been to their place for a long time.
They've been singing it since at least the 70s.
first time I went to the hawthorns was in the 70’s and I didn’t know that either
what words do they sing to it or is it just the lords my shepherd sung to crimond
I grew up in Smethwick and had a few friends who were part-time Albion fans. I went along to the Brummie Road with them for an evening game against Liverpool, early 1978-79 season and that's the first time I heard them sing it. Think they lost 1-0 (Dalglish). Heard it on and off on TV afterwards, not sure I've ever heard them sing it when playing us.
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Only turned over as nothing else worth watching on normal channels.
Good to see comedy has returned to Saturday nights. Not laughed as much since the 2 Ronnies packed up.
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that's a piss poor performance by Sam Johnstone.
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Only turned over as nothing else worth watching on normal channels.
Good to see comedy has returned to Saturday nights. Not laughed as much since the 2 Ronnies packed up.
It was very much like The Two Ronnies. I think Albion brought on Elaine Paige & Barbara Dickson at half time.
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What's the most goals conceded in a Premier League season? This lot are shit. They were given two free goals and still fucked it up. They'll concede 70+ no problem.
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that's a piss poor performance by Sam Johnstone.
I was disappointed when he left us and went to them but he has gone backwards. It doesn't help him that as a team they are quite poor defensively.
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Is that the most amount of top flight games played before a draw?
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that's a piss poor performance by Sam Johnstone.
I was disappointed when he left us and went to them but he has gone backwards. It doesn't help him that as a team they are quite poor defensively.
I don't think he's gone that far backwards, he did ok for us but that was behind a good defence (for the championship). I never thought he was even close to good enough for the premier league.
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Surprised Fat Frank did not subb out Tammy.
Good call from fat Frank.
Tammy made a lot of runs during the game but not picked out.
Against a team like Albion you need someone that will keep giving 100% to the last minute of injury team because you will always get a chance.
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Surprised Fat Frank did not subb out Tammy.
Good call from fat Frank.
Tammy made a lot of runs during the game but not picked out.
Against a team like Albion you need someone that will keep giving 100% to the last minute of injury team because you will always get a chance.
Fair enough - he was pretty average in the first half.
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that's a piss poor performance by Sam Johnstone.
I was disappointed when he left us and went to them but he has gone backwards. It doesn't help him that as a team they are quite poor defensively.
I don't think he's gone that far backwards, he did ok for us but that was behind a good defence (for the championship). I never thought he was even close to good enough for the premier league.
For the last goal he was too far over covering his near post. Overall poor performance. Anyway who keeps a monkeys, he was off to the Albion as soon as we weren’t getting promoted
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Burnley’s Umbro kit looks rather nice.
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Surprised Fat Frank did not subb out Tammy.
Good call from fat Frank.
Tammy made a lot of runs during the game but not picked out.
Against a team like Albion you need someone that will keep giving 100% to the last minute of injury team because you will always get a chance.
Fair enough - he was pretty average in the first half.
I agree but he always give 100% I would have him in here in a heartbeat. We can argue about the fee till the cows come home.
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That result from the Hawthorns was very sad.
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Danny Ings has been such a superb signing for Southampton
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Kyle Walker-Peters looks really good, no idea why Spurs let him go.
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That result from the Hawthorns was very sad.
Snort!
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just a random question about formations
what is the difference if there is one between a
5-3-2 where the full backs are playing as wing backs and going forward when possible to help in attack whilst also performing their defensive duties
and a
3-5-2 where the wide midfielders are dropping back to help out the defence when needed
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just a random question about formations - what is the difference if there is one between a 5-3-2 where the full backs are playing as wing backs and going forward when possible to help in attack whilst also performing their defensive duties and a 3-5-2 where the wide midfielders are dropping back to help out the defence when needed?
Choice of personnel? - the former might be more defenders chosen vs the latter, where more attacking players are asked to do some defensive duties.
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What's the most goals conceded in a Premier League season?
Swindon conceded exactly 100 in 93/94 in a 42 game season. I made lot of money on that as I bet on an accumulator that was Swindon to get relegated, finish bottom and concede 100 or or more goals. This was nearly impossible but short price at 150/1 due to the fact that they were odds on for bottom position. They had conceded 95 by the time last game was played. They played Leeds at home and got beat 5-0 with Danny Wallace scoring 4. The reason I bet on 100 was because they conceded something like 68 during their promotion season and Hoddle left them to take over at Spurs before the start of the season I think.
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just a random question about formations
what is the difference if there is one between a
5-3-2 where the full backs are playing as wing backs and going forward when possible to help in attack whilst also performing their defensive duties
and a
3-5-2 where the wide midfielders are dropping back to help out the defence when needed
On the pitch nothing. If you're playing either and have a decent amount of possession they're wide midfielders, if you're on the back foot it's a 5.
The real problem with it is if you're up against a 433 where the front 3 are spread wide and the full backs are getting up the pitch you end up with your wing backs getting over-loaded.
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At times we've complained about our lack of options on the bench but it hasn't been like this Burnley team (unintentionally) since October/November under Houllier when we had half a squad out injured.
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Burnley will be in thick of relegation battle I think, could be like Bournemouth last year where long serving and over achieving manager just can't come up with the answers anymore and football gravity pulls them down.
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Watching MOTD - first time I've seen the Utd "penalty" award. All these years later they're still getting them. And on 90 mins +10. Disgusting.
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Watching MOTD - first time I've seen the Utd "penalty" award. All these years later they're still getting them. And on 90 mins +10. Disgusting.
Am watching too and much as I think they have a mystifying number of penalties for me that was a penalty as Maupay was wafting his hand in the air looking like a man hailing a taxi.
I am convinced that if the Connolly non penalty had been Rashford, for example, being upended by Dunk then it would have been given.
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Hodgson got it spot on tonight saying the rulemakers are taking the enjoyment out of football. Once upon a time there was thing called intentional handball, not if yer arms were at a certain level or by your side. I hope Smith is telling our players to just boot the ball at the defenders arms in the penalty area, if there's not a shot on or a pass. What with penalties after the final whistle lark, surely Association Football is our intellectual property and we can take it back off the UEFA/FIFA fuckers. I mean usually you have to pay a fortune to bugger up someone else's franchise.
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Watching MOTD - first time I've seen the Utd "penalty" award. All these years later they're still getting them. And on 90 mins +10. Disgusting.
agree the top teams always seem to get the 50 50's where penaltys are concerned
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Another 15 goals in 4 premiership games and 1 home win out of 13 prem/champ games.
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If our strikers are struggling to hit 192 square feet of goal, I'd not bet on them being able to hit what can't be more than one square foot of arm on purpose.
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Watched MOTD and some of the defending is abysmal. Still, best league in the world and all that.
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heh, well maybe not ours but zaha deffo tried it later on in the game.
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Watched MOTD and some of the defending is abysmal. Still, best league in the world and all that.
everton looking good what i saw on MOTD with lots of controversy regarding the hand ball situations in there game . the law needs to be simplified
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Watched MOTD and some of the defending is abysmal. Still, best league in the world and all that.
And yet more goals scored in Serie A opening weekend than the EPL opening round.
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Watched MOTD and some of the defending is abysmal. Still, best league in the world and all that.
everton looking good what i saw on MOTD with lots of controversy regarding the hand ball situations in there game . the law needs to be simplified
Palace upped it second half, they starved Rodriguez, and I didn't think them equalising would have been an injustice.
I also saw a fair bit of the Wycombe game earlier. I dunno what's worse to be subjected to, VAR or Championship refereeing.
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Watched MOTD and some of the defending is abysmal. Still, best league in the world and all that.
everton looking good what i saw on MOTD with lots of controversy regarding the hand ball situations in there game . the law needs to be simplified
Palace upped it second half, they starved Rodriguez, and I didn't think them equalising would have been an injustice.
I also saw a fair bit of the Wycombe game earlier. I dunno what's worse to be subjected to, VAR or Championship refereeing.
on the whole i like VAR but the laws need to be changed and simplified as mentioned before
wish we had VAR in the championship
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A big issue I have with VAR is that it's implemented and adjudicated by serving referees, so all those week to week inconsistencies of interpretation we'd all moaned about and hoped VAR would eradicate are now inflicted on us with potentially every decision.
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A big issue I have with VAR is that it's implemented and adjudicated by serving referees, so all those week to week inconsistencies of interpretation we'd all moaned about and hoped VAR would eradicate are now inflicted on us with potentially every decision.
listen all other sports have adapted like rugby union , rugby league , cricket , tennis etc but football fans seem to up in arms when we turn to technology
we got to move with the times !!!
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But it's not using technology, it's the subjective opinion of someone watching on the telly. They could get one of us to do it!
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But it's not using technology, it's the subjective opinion of someone watching on the telly. They could get one of us to do it!
oh lordy not using technology ???
think its time to give up with this topic after all anyone can do it ;D
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A big difference between how it's used in other sports compared to football is that in those others, it's almost exclusively used to judge what's happening/happened with the ball. In football, they're attempting to judge the player.
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A big issue I have with VAR is that it's implemented and adjudicated by serving referees, so all those week to week inconsistencies of interpretation we'd all moaned about and hoped VAR would eradicate are now inflicted on us with potentially every decision.
listen all other sports have adapted like rugby union , rugby league , cricket , tennis etc but football fans seem to up in arms when we turn to technology
we got to move with the times !!!
Cricket and tennis have exact reasons for it. Is it a out? And with the speeds involved there is a need for it. Football could be used in a certain way but in football it is being used for many reasons.
Both Rugby Codes does look at multiple options but only IF the onfield ref asks for it. In football they are reffing everything that happens on the video and tell the ref to change their mind afterwards.
So the way VAR is used does take the main reffing off the field. The BBC mentioned today that there was an offside that was massively obvious but the lines person did not flag. And the reason they did not flag is they have been told not to because if it leads to a goal, VAR can then check the offside, and if it doesn't then oh well play can carry on. No other sport who uses Video replays gives it that much power over on field live play.
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Maupay certainly handballed it but I’m sorry if the referee blows the final whistle then that’s it, it’s game over surely. I mean, where does that end? Is there anything in the new interpretation that covers post final whistle checks?
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Maupay certainly handballed it but I’m sorry if the referee blows the final whistle then that’s it, it’s game over surely. I mean, where does that end? Is there anything in the new interpretation that covers post final whistle checks?
If this is right why didn’t our goal vs a Crystal Palace count last season? They main reason given at the time was the ref had blown for full time so they couldn’t do anything about it.
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It wasn't the final whistle I don't think, he'd whistled to indicate Grealish had dived so the game should have stopped. As I understand it, Maupay handled just before the final whistle blew so still happened during the game?
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I haven't seen the incident so perhaps it isn't fair for me to comment but, is it known that the referee actually blew to signal full-time? Was it audible? If so then he is in error (unless the law has changed). If he was about to blow then the game is still 'live' and the penalty was correct.
Two things here that have to be remembered, in football, the referee is the sole judge of time; no one else. Secondly, the only time in a game that play can be extended and by that I don't mean added time due to loss of time through injury, substitution etc, I mean extra time after the full ninety minutes playing time has elapsed is, for the taking of a penalty kick. I hope that makes sense and gives a small insight into the scenario.
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My understanding is although the ref blew for full time the incident has occurred in the play before. So was then brought back.
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I watched it. Corner comes in, Fat Head nods it across, appeals, its cleared off the line, the referee blows the full time whistle, Yanited swarm the referee, he reviews it and awards a penalty after the game has finished. It was a penalty, but the game should have finished before Man United got into the box to be awarded a corner.
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I watched it. Corner comes in, Fat Head nods it across, appeals, its cleared off the line, the referee blows the full time whistle, Yanited swarm the referee, he reviews it and awards a penalty after the game has finished. It was a penalty, but the game should have finished before Man United got into the box to be awarded a corner.
Let's face it. When it comes to Man Yanited normal rules don't apply. Keep playing until they get their way. The spectre of Fergie still looms large. However the fact that it happened to that horrible little twunt Maupay makes up for it.
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suppose the incident happened before the final whistle.
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I watched it. Corner comes in, Fat Head nods it across, appeals, its cleared off the line, the referee blows the full time whistle, Yanited swarm the referee, he reviews it and awards a penalty after the game has finished. It was a penalty, but the game should have finished before Man United got into the box to be awarded a corner.
That is exactly the point. The awarding of the penalty was correct as it happened before he blew the whistle. What no one seems to want to explain is why when five minutes was signalled as added on time and Brighton equalised in the fifth minute of that time, the game continued for another four minutes. How many times have you seen the other team just be allowed to kick off before the whistle is blown straight away? There is no explanation for playing another four minutes.
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Derby played 3 lost 3, 4 nil against Blackburn!
I think taxi for Cucu this week and Rooney in charge for the rest of the season. I actually thought Derby replaced Lampard with a better manager when Cocu was appointed. :-[
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I watched it. Corner comes in, Fat Head nods it across, appeals, its cleared off the line, the referee blows the full time whistle, Yanited swarm the referee, he reviews it and awards a penalty after the game has finished. It was a penalty, but the game should have finished before Man United got into the box to be awarded a corner.
That is exactly the point. The awarding of the penalty was correct as it happened before he blew the whistle. What no one seems to want to explain is why when five minutes was signalled as added on time and Brighton equalised in the fifth minute of that time, the game continued for another four minutes. How many times have you seen the other team just be allowed to kick off before the whistle is blown straight away? There is no explanation for playing another four minutes.
The bias never ends, does it? They had a dodgy pen against them last week - it's almost as if that had to be made up for ...
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It was bizarre as fuck and I've never seen anything like it but when injury time is announced (unless its changed) then its announced as a minimum of 5 minutes and not a maximum of 5 minutes.
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It was bizarre as fuck and I've never seen anything like it but when injury time is announced (unless its changed) then its announced as a minimum of 5 minutes and not a maximum of 5 minutes.
Right and the Brighton goal was overlapping 90mins so as much as it pains to say I think they were entitled to the decision
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My analysis after 10 minutes Leeds are going to win this match. Sheff United are very limited and can't see then scoring however it's Leeds defence so you never know.
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You can guarantee Rangers will win 2-1 today. I wrote a bet out to that effect and forgot to put it on.
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You can guarantee Rangers will win 2-1 today. I wrote a bet out to that effect and forgot to put it on.
Just to check - is that Glasgow Rangers?
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You can guarantee Rangers will win 2-1 today. I wrote a bet out to that effect and forgot to put it on.
Just to check - is that Glasgow Rangers?
3-0 Rangers. I can stop stewing over my unplaced bet now.
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Super Gers done me today, had a draw.
Will have to settle for draw on the Man City game to get me dough back.
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2 poor teams for me, I think both will be in the relegation battle this year (but will both stay up, Leeds by scoring enough to beat a lot of the other bottom half sides and Sheff U by keeping clean sheets).
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What’s with all the “man” buns in Leeds?
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What’s with all the “man” buns in Leeds?
It's the north of England, it's still 2013 up there.
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What’s with all the “man” buns in Leeds?
It's the north of England, it's still 2013 up there.
not sure it's that advanced.
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BT are as bad as Sky for gushing over Leeds, Fletch/Steve Mac have even got excited over Bielsa drinking coffee on the sideline.
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BT are as bad as Sky for gushing over Leeds, Fletch/Steve Mac have even got excited over Bielsa drinking coffee on the sideline.
I have this feeling with Bielsa that you get when that great cult band you love suddenly becomes everyone's favourite band. Not Bielsa's fault, I doubt he really gives a shit, but it is annoying.
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2 poor teams for me, I think both will be in the relegation battle this year (but will both stay up, Leeds by scoring enough to beat a lot of the other bottom half sides and Sheff U by keeping clean sheets).
That's what I was thinking about 5 mins ago....and its 1-0 to Leeds.
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Don't rate the bloke, but that's not a bad start of the season for Bamford.
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5-0 Rangers.
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Don't rate the bloke, but that's not a bad start of the season for Bamford.
I don't think he's a bad player, to be honest. But he is an absolute ******. c.unt
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McBurnie, McGoldrick, Sharp and Burke is a strikeforce that wouldn't look out of place mid-table in the Championship. Sheffield Utd were fresh and new last season and caught alot of teams out but this season they have been sussed out, Wilder will have to do wonders to keep them up.
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I am obsessed with managers and how they are the most important appointment at any club
it all starts and ends with how good your manager is for me
so just for a bit of fun i looked at the prem league and put all the managers into 3 sections
Top managers, want to become top managers, dinosaurs
see if you agree
Top Managers
Pep
Klopp
Ancelloti
Bielsa
Mourinho
want to become top managers
Smith
Potter
Wilder
Ole
Lampard
Arteta
Nuno
Bilic
Rogers
Hasenhuttl
Parker
Dyche
Dinosaurs
Bruce
Moyes
Don’t know where to put Roy Hodgson he’s to good to be a dinosaur, to old to be a wannabe and not good enough to be called a top manager
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Sorry I’m a bit bored
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I am obsessed with managers..
It's Rodgers. ;)
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Newcastle look absolutely wank.
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What’s with all the “man” buns in Leeds?
It's the north of England, it's still 2013 up there.
not sure it's that advanced.
As a bloke who lives up north can I just point out there are many who prefer a ponytail to a bun
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Newcastle are lucky to be only 1 down - Spurs should be 6 up now.
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Newcastle are lucky to be only 1 down - Spurs should be 6 up now.
Yep don’t think they have had a shot yet
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Newcastle look absolutely wank.
To put it mildly they are set up with little attempt to compete to win.
It's very outdated tactics by Bruce and Newcastle actually have a few attacking players to at least give it some kinda go but no it's all an attempt to contain.
Awful .
And Bruce will even try a d hoodwink saying he's got attacking players out on the pitch. May be the case but they aren't used in any attacking capacity.
Should be 5-0 down at half time
Sky have just put up a great stat. Newcastle beat West Ham 2-0’with their only shots on target and haven’t had a shot on target since against Brighton last week or Spurs today.
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Worra stat that is, Newcastle have mustered two shots on target in their three games so far this season. Although those do have a 100% conversion rate.
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Fair play to Nan's hair. Still flying the flag for utter footballing mediocrity in the premier. Most of his peers gave up 10 years ago.
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VAR 😂😂
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I hate Spurs.. but that is bollocks
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This new handball rule is a load of old shit.
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What a joke of a handball
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Cant wait for Mourinhos post match interview now
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I hate Spurs.. but that is bollocks
This. 100%.
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They are doing everything to ruin the game
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how the fuck is that deliberate handball?
he wasn't even looking - the rules are fucked up.
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Cant wait for Mourinhos post match interview now
Shock spat dummy out
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But it’s spurs so I’ll take it.
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I worry for the game, I really do.
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They think Kane has been sent off
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His arm is outstretched because he is jumping and the ball hits his arm. Clearly 'ball to hand/arm' just doesn't apply anymore. But I am not aware they have officially clarified that is the case.
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Cant wait for Mourinhos post match interview now
Shock spat dummy out
With good reason..
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But it’s spurs so I’ll take it.
It could be us next game..I wouldn't be so blase about it..horrendous decision.
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But it’s spurs so I’ll take it.
It'll be us at some point though, I guarantee it. This ridiculous rule obviously benefits the Sky clubs as the more you defend, the more the ball will knock around your box, and the more that happens the greater the chance is of ricocheting onto an arm. I guarantee we'll get some shit handball like this against us this season.
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VAR is a festering sore on the scrotum of our beautiful game.
Where is the intent?
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Cant wait for Mourinhos post match interview now
I bet you wouldn't want to be the bloke who has to interview him though ;)
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Said last night, any player worth his salt faced with an opposition player in the penalty area will boot it at their body and hope.
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Cant wait for Mourinhos post match interview now
Shock spat dummy out
With good reason..
Yep absolutely, but he will make it all about him
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VAR is a festering sore on the scrotum of our beautiful game.
Where is the intent?
VAR didn’t give the Pen
the officials did
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VAR is a festering sore on the scrotum of our beautiful game.
Where is the intent?
Beautiful image!
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the rules did.
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I thought Carroll was offside
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I thought Carroll was offside
Yeah thought so to, looked like they were measuring from his body, when his head was the bit of him offside
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New handball rule is utter sh*te, surely we cant have a whole season of this crap
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VAR is a festering sore on the scrotum of our beautiful game.
Where is the intent?
VAR didn’t give the Pen
the officials did
That’s right but instead of adapting VAR to meet the needs of the game, they are changing the laws of the game to accommodate VAR.
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VAR is a festering sore on the scrotum of our beautiful game.
Where is the intent?
VAR didn’t give the Pen
the officials did
That’s right but instead of adapting VAR to meet the needs of the game, they are changing the laws of the game to accommodate VAR.
Well put.
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VAR reminds of me of Brexit.
Here's your VAR.
No, not like that!
Both terrible ideas, impossible to implement without bollocksing everything up and those that called for it in the first place amongst the most vocal critics.
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I don't see how VAR can be blamed for this, nor the on-field officials. The rule tells them that if the arm is away from the body and it makes contact with the ball it's a pen. All they did was apply the rule as instructed. The rule is a pile of shit.
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VAR is cramp, but that was still pathetic from Jose, leaving for the dressing room with still 3 minutes to play.
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The only improvement to VAR has been the referees finally being less stubborn regarding looking at the monitor. They still often get it wrong in my opinion but I do prefer it when they go and have a look at least.
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It is a classic case it not being bust so not needing to be fixed. Twatmeister Souness defending the indefensible on the grounds that VAR creates more goals is the corruption of the game to basketball being played by the Harlem Globetrotters. Fuck the game let's have some shobiz.
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VAR reminds of me of Brexit.
Here's your VAR.
No, not like that!
Both terrible ideas, impossible to implement without bollocksing everything up and those that called for it in the first place amongst the most vocal critics.
I was both in favour of it and a vocal critic - but not of VAR itself, just the way it was being used last season. I think it's been working quite well this season since the refs have started to use the pitch side monitor, and mostly had the humility to overturn their own errors. I still think hey should bin it for borderline offside but the handball fiasco is about bad rule making, not poor use of VAR.
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The only improvement to VAR has been the referees finally being less stubborn regarding looking at the monitor. They still often get it wrong in my opinion but I do prefer it when they go and have a look at least.
Refs weren't being stubborn, as I understand it Mike Reilly had decreed that they would not use the monitors because he thought it would delay he game too much. The massive twunt.
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Within the rules, it was a pen.
The rules are the argument.
Personally I quite liked seeing Jose throw his toys, are there any left in his crib.