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Title: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on July 11, 2020, 11:35:51 AM
Fwiw.  0-0 bore draw.  They havenít scored three in a game all season long but donít give much away.  We donít score.  Or a 0-1 Ayew:Benteke link up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 11, 2020, 11:40:16 AM
We will start okay. Palace/Everton/Arsenal/West Ham will realise that we have no goal threat and grow in confidence.

They will take the lead due to a refereeing controversy/jammy deflection/piece of shit defending and that'll be that. The only question being if they settle for one-nil or go on to score two or three more.

Sorry, thought I would do all my remaining pre-match predictions in one thread to save time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Baldy on July 11, 2020, 11:46:06 AM
We have the most fouled player in the league. What would every other team do? Stick him up front and get him in the penalty box as much as possible.

                Reina

Guilbert Mings Hause Taylor

McGinn Nakamba Luiz Hourihan

          Davis Grealish

2-0 to the villa. Two penalties scored out of 5 given.  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: olaftab on July 11, 2020, 11:50:42 AM
There wasn't any need for this thread and there is not a lot left that can be said about anything.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on July 11, 2020, 11:54:53 AM
2-0 shock win for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 11, 2020, 11:55:43 AM
No further comments Your Honour... 0-2 them
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: CT on July 11, 2020, 12:10:29 PM
I reckon this will be one of the almighty shocks of English football. We'll win 1-0.

It will be right up there alongside Woking winning at the Hawthorns.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: eamonn on July 11, 2020, 12:58:00 PM
Start McGinn and I swear to God I'll swing for both him and Smith. The rest of our lot will be still bollock-tired and feeling sorry for themselves after Thursday night, never mind the unfit and overweight Scottish chap.

1-3 Palace will pick us off as we tire in the last twenty minutes, Terry will stand there thinking he is still so right in how Villa teams knacker themselves out. The Beast and Ayew both on the score sheet just to rub salt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: eamonn on July 11, 2020, 12:58:26 PM
0-2 shock win for us.

* We're at home, 2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Axl Rose on July 11, 2020, 01:02:55 PM
407-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on July 11, 2020, 01:06:45 PM
0-2 shock win for us.

* We're at home, 2-0.

Cheers. I've totally lost track.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 01:23:15 PM
I see that JT has thrown his hat in to try to become Bristol City manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 11, 2020, 01:25:03 PM
Us 4 Them 1
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 11, 2020, 01:30:48 PM
We have the most fouled player in the league. What would every other team do?
Learn how to take decent free kicks?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Bobby Boy on July 11, 2020, 01:31:55 PM
I see that JT has thrown his hat in to try to become Bristol City manager.

Well he's done such a good job organising our defence all season that he must be a shoe in.

And as for those inspirational pre-game huddles that he instigates.... Blinding!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: 260475 on July 11, 2020, 01:35:25 PM
0-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ez on July 11, 2020, 01:37:27 PM
0-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on July 11, 2020, 01:38:13 PM
This is it. Win or bust.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: RichardBatchelor on July 11, 2020, 01:57:50 PM
Could easily be win and bust anyway if Watford win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: sickbeggar on July 11, 2020, 02:01:00 PM
My heart says he'll go for it and try something different in personnel or formation,. My head says same formation with Samatta or Davis up front.

0-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on July 11, 2020, 02:14:08 PM
This is it. Win or bust.

Last chance saloon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 11, 2020, 02:15:20 PM
I think the fat lady has packed her bags and fucked off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: CT on July 11, 2020, 02:15:44 PM
Pretty much a dead rubber now.

Play the kids, play the ones who will be here next season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Villan82 on July 11, 2020, 02:16:46 PM
I could not give a f**k any more you spineless twats.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: themossman on July 11, 2020, 02:19:38 PM
Who gives a shit?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: levico on July 11, 2020, 02:29:50 PM
They know what to do but itíll be just a lot of fruitless huffing and puffing before Palace sneak a late winner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 11, 2020, 02:30:43 PM
It would be nice to show some bollocks and at least go down with a bang, I'm not holding my breath though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nunkin1965 on July 11, 2020, 02:32:31 PM
If we win our next 2 games weíll be 1 point off both Watford and West Ham and they play each other next.
And Iím sober!
Alright Iím talking bollocks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 11, 2020, 02:32:36 PM
Meaningless game, who cares what happens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: rougegorge on July 11, 2020, 02:37:10 PM
When a team are on a bad run of 4 consecutive defeats, like Palace are, we must be a godsend to them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: tomd2103 on July 11, 2020, 02:38:51 PM
This is it. Win or bust.

Yep.  With that in mind, we've got to at least try and get some creativity in the team.  Push Grealish back out wide, play Nakamba with Luiz and give Hourihane a free role in front of them.  Not CH's biggest fan at all, but at least he has a goal in him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: RichardBatchelor on July 11, 2020, 02:40:02 PM
The Fat Lady is practising her scales...
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: sickbeggar on July 11, 2020, 02:41:17 PM
This is it. Win or bust.

Yep.  With that in mind, we've got to at least try and get some creativity in the team.  Push Grealish back out wide, play Nakamba with Luiz and give Hourihane a free role in front of them.  Not CH's biggest fan at all, but at least he has a goal in him.

yep.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 11, 2020, 02:41:22 PM
This is it. Win or bust.

Yep.  With that in mind, we've got to at least try and get some creativity in the team.  Push Grealish back out wide, play Nakamba with Luiz and give Hourihane a free role in front of them.  Not CH's biggest fan at all, but at least he has a goal in him.
Too late mate, we are done. May as well give some game time to some youngsters or even some fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Villan82 on July 11, 2020, 02:42:14 PM
When a team are on a bad run of 4 consecutive defeats, like Palace are, we must be a godsend to them.

That's 21st century Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on July 11, 2020, 02:42:50 PM
Only a few of the U23s are training with the first team. The rest are all sat at home doing their own privately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: David_Nab on July 11, 2020, 02:43:45 PM
Benteke and Ayew to score and a 2 nil loss, Dean to say we are not out of it yet blah blah
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: colin69 on July 11, 2020, 02:45:57 PM
Whatever the score weíve had it now....we are exactly where we deserve to be!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: CT on July 11, 2020, 02:46:17 PM
Benteke and Ayew to score and a 2 nil loss, Dean to say we are not out of it yet blah blah

Remember at school when one team was hopelessly bad, so theyíd be given a couple of better players to give them a chance?

Maybe Benteke and Ayew could play for us one last time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 11, 2020, 02:47:59 PM
I wonder if someone has put money on us to win the last 4 and offered to split the winnings with the players.

#87remembered
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 11, 2020, 02:56:49 PM
We'll probably win 6-1 now for the troll fest.

Benteke hat trick of own goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Allan C on July 11, 2020, 02:57:44 PM
A sad desperate 0-2  I really canít see us getting another point
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 03:00:23 PM
I posted last week that it could be decided after those two matches today. Bearing in mind also the way we have been playing since the restart, nothing to suggest that I would change my mind now.
Unless a miracle on the scale of Lazarus rising from the grave should come about.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 11, 2020, 03:01:14 PM
0- 4 after a solid first 25 minutes then a complete capitulation as usual.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 03:10:16 PM
With a bit of luck, at least we may not have to play Brentford next season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: devilla on July 11, 2020, 03:16:40 PM
Our lot are so very lucky that Villa Park will be empty.

Just can't see any scoreline that doesn't start with Aston Villa 0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 11, 2020, 03:17:53 PM
Our lot are so very lucky that Villa Park will be empty.

Just can't see any scoreline that doesn't start with Aston Villa 0.
We should add this to the thread title.   

Doh
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 11, 2020, 03:27:19 PM
This is it. Win or bust.

Yep.  With that in mind, we've got to at least try and get some creativity in the team.  Push Grealish back out wide, play Nakamba with Luiz and give Hourihane a free role in front of them.  Not CH's biggest fan at all, but at least he has a goal in him.

Why not! Despite hourihane being very limited at this level and lacking pace, I do think heís one of the ones who gives a shit. He looked seething when he came on against Man Utd and was throwing the f bomb round at a few of them. Also ran round like a lunatic...to little effect, but Iíd rather that than passively letting the game drift away.
I felt really deflated when Watford got their winner earlier, but fuck it. Itís absolutely clear now, win or bust, no fucking around. We somehow scrape a win, weíre within 4 points of Watford and West Ham, preferably Watford lose to West Ham midweek and we scrape a draw at Everton, weíre 3 points behind with arsenal at home and on the beach West Ham away whilst Watford have Man City home and arsenal away. Absolutely delusional I know, weíll know by 4.30 tomorrow.
I just home Smith tries just anything different.

                                Reina

Konsa.           Mings.    Hause.        Taylor

                                 Luiz

Elmohamady.              Hourihane.             Grealish
             
                         Samatta.         Vassilev
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 11, 2020, 03:35:46 PM
What I would do

                Reina
      Konsa Hause Mings
Guilbert McGinn Luiz Targett
    El Ghazi Samatta Jack
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Risso on July 11, 2020, 03:42:41 PM
Largely irrelevant now.  Play the kids so we can at least see a bit of effort. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: hilts_coolerking on July 11, 2020, 03:50:55 PM
He's only had a few minutes of game time but I have no idea Vassilev's strengths are and I couldn't even say what his best position is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 03:54:58 PM
Just caught a headline on Birmingham Live, Dean Smith given huge boost as Matt Targett declares heís now fit and available for selection. If Iíd known that earlier I could have put good money on that we will win all our remaining matches!! Why do they bother with ridiculous headlines like that?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Steve67 on July 11, 2020, 03:57:51 PM
I can't see Dean doing anything out of the ordinary.  He might change the faces but the tactics and shape will be the same.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: eric woolban woolban on July 11, 2020, 04:12:54 PM
This'll be our 1987 vs West Ham. 4-0 to the Villa. Steve Hunt with one of the goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Big Ming on July 11, 2020, 04:26:57 PM
Be just like the Villa to put in a shift and a decent performance, now it's too late.

Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 11, 2020, 04:32:55 PM
Just caught a headline on Birmingham Live.

That was your biggest mistake. If that was on newsnow click "hide publication" via the cog.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 04:36:34 PM
I see that mighty Burnley didnít give up when they went 1-0 down to YNWA. Now 1-1 and final result could go either way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on July 11, 2020, 04:39:52 PM
Largely irrelevant now.  Play the kids so we can at least see a bit of effort. 

The sad thing is, there doesn't seem to be any kids either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 11, 2020, 04:59:27 PM
I see that mighty Burnley didnít give up when they went 1-0 down to YNWA. Now 1-1 and final result could go either way.

Exactly why i want Dyche. He would give us a backbone
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Legion on July 11, 2020, 05:37:15 PM
Largely irrelevant now.  Play the kids so we can at least see a bit of effort. 

The sad thing is, there doesn't seem to be any kids either.

See earlier post.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 06:05:26 PM
Would give Dyche a chance to manage us but doubt very much thatís going to happen. As I type, Sheffield Utd gone 2-0 up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Villan82 on July 11, 2020, 06:08:50 PM
I see that mighty Burnley didnít give up when they went 1-0 down to YNWA. Now 1-1 and final result could go either way.

Exactly why i want Dyche. He would give us a backbone

This all day. it would be the best appointment in a long time, if we could get him.

There is a lot of B.S about 'style' and 'Philosophy' in today's game. Let's just start with the basics? We have been in decline for a long time and a soft touch for a long time. We need to run before we can walk. We need a change of mentality, we need work-rate, we need to have more backbone. Once we have established those basics we can then look at things like style.

'The Villa engine', 'laying traps'...I don't want any more bullshit when it isn't producing results.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Risso on July 11, 2020, 06:11:57 PM
You don't even get the 'laying traps' bullshit from Smith any more, these days it's more "it's highly unlikely we'd get anything from the Liverpool or Man U games".
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Villan82 on July 11, 2020, 06:16:17 PM
You don't even get the 'laying traps' bullshit from Smith any more, these days it's more "it's highly unlikely we'd get anything from the Liverpool or Man U games".

That laying traps stuff was cringey !
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 11, 2020, 06:17:31 PM
We got caught in our own traps and never got out. And he can take his traps with him the moment heís fired.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: David_Nab on July 11, 2020, 06:28:40 PM
You don't even get the 'laying traps' bullshit from Smith any more, these days it's more "it's highly unlikely we'd get anything from the Liverpool or Man U games".

He pissed me off when he constantly went on about drawing with United when we were winning the game and they were at that point very poor but he acted as if he was a massive achievement and kept bringing it up.

Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 08:07:14 PM
Another positive to being in the Championship next season is that, itís beginning to look as if we will have another local derby with the Olbiyun. I think the Bees will finish above them on goal difference and, the Stripes wonít win in the play offs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: BoVillan esq on July 11, 2020, 08:29:42 PM
Villa win 3-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 11, 2020, 08:44:26 PM
Just caught a headline on Birmingham Live, Roy Hodgson given huge boost as Matt Targett declares heís now fit and available for selection. If Iíd known that earlier I could have put good money on that we will lose all our remaining matches!! Why do they bother with ridiculous headlines like that?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 09:12:14 PM
Rudy, snap!! I posted on here a bit earlier, having seen the same article and, weíve both nearly said the same thing word for word. Great minds and all that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 11, 2020, 09:13:26 PM
Oh, except I said Dean Smith.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 11, 2020, 09:36:18 PM
You don't say! ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 11, 2020, 09:38:07 PM
Another loss - Smith outmanoevered by elder statesman - Roy Hodgson :( Taxi for Deano
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 11, 2020, 10:01:33 PM
Despite all the resignation about our fate there is a chance that we win this game, and with Watford and West Ham playing each other next, we're not actually definitely relegated.

To support my belief in this outcome I've decided not to watch tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: OzVilla on July 11, 2020, 10:58:28 PM
Yep, but only if we beat Palace and Everton. Therein lies the problem.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Des Little on July 11, 2020, 11:06:11 PM
To win, weíll need to score, we canít. 0-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: dl9 on July 11, 2020, 11:13:07 PM
We have to win 3 out of 4 to stand any remote chance
Itís BS
We wonít even win tomorrow (unless they put one in their own net).
The pipest of pipe dreams is over
Championship here we come
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: JD on July 11, 2020, 11:18:54 PM
1-0 to Villa. Benteke og after 78mins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: frank black on July 12, 2020, 08:43:19 AM
1-0 to Villa. Benteke og after 78mins.

3-0 to Villa Benteke hat trick
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nunkin1965 on July 12, 2020, 08:48:32 AM
Today is the day we turn it round.
The sun is shining and its a 2-0 win for the Villa.
That prolongs the agony for a few more days anyway!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: OzVilla on July 12, 2020, 08:49:09 AM
Do or die, need to throw everything at them, must win game. 1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on July 12, 2020, 09:41:33 AM
This is an absolute must win game for me. If we don't get three points today I think we are as good as down.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Clampy on July 12, 2020, 09:52:05 AM
I can see us winning this today, if only for the reason that it would be typical for us to win now there's a 7 point gap. Because of the gap and the importance, I wonder if he'll throw a few gambles into the mix (Vassilev, Barry etc).
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: john e on July 12, 2020, 09:54:50 AM
To much defeatism on here

we only need to beat Palace, Everton and West Ham and we probs stay up

all winnable games starting today
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Pat Mustard on July 12, 2020, 09:58:46 AM
I was as down as anyone after the results yesterday and I donít think we will get out of it, but the amount of people throwing in the towel completely is ridiculous. We need to change tactics, maybe go 3 at the back again and get more width from the fullbacks if Guilbert and Targett are fit, but if we get a win today we will have a chance to get back within striking distance of Watford or West Ham come Thursday, possibly even both if their game is a draw. I actually think we will get the win today, then itís a long shot but we arenít down yet.

My main reasoning behind this is coming out of the Derby 4-0 game last season. I remember thinking it was a great performance, but had come a few games too late and we had no chance of catching enough teams to make the playoffs. Itís a lot later now, but it wonít take a massive swing for us to still have a chance of staying up on the last day - we just have to win our games, hopefully that focuses the players minds.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ez on July 12, 2020, 10:19:30 AM
So the much spoken of must win game is now here. 0-0 bore draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 12, 2020, 10:28:10 AM
To much defeatism on here

we only need to beat Palace, Everton and West Ham and we probs stay up

all winnable games starting today

More winnable games, I canít wait ;D chuckles.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 12, 2020, 10:31:42 AM
I don't think 3 wins will be enough - We need all 4!

I can see West Ham/Watford drawing, and Watford beating Man City (they beat Liverpool convincingly remember, and Man City will have one eye on the return of the Champions League by that point). West Ham/Watford could both realistically finish on 38pts (assuming West Ham beat us), leaving us 11 points behind. We need all 4 wins, and hope that they don't put similar runs together.

Based on our current form, I think it's pie in the sky stuff. We won't gain another point all season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: wince on July 12, 2020, 10:39:55 AM
You don't even get the 'laying traps' bullshit from Smith any more, these days it's more "it's highly unlikely we'd get anything from the Liverpool or Man U games".

Odd that we were laying traps when we looked more like we were laying cables
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: john e on July 12, 2020, 10:45:14 AM
To much defeatism on here

we only need to beat Palace, Everton and West Ham and we probs stay up

all winnable games starting today

More winnable games, I canít wait ;D chuckles.

Win the next two

and weíre right back in it

Keep the Faith
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: john e on July 12, 2020, 10:48:02 AM
I don't think 3 wins will be enough - We need all 4!

I can see West Ham/Watford drawing, and Watford beating Man City (they beat Liverpool convincingly remember, and Man City will have one eye on the return of the Champions League by that point). West Ham/Watford could both realistically finish on 38pts (assuming West Ham beat us), leaving us 11 points behind. We need all 4 wins, and hope that they don't put similar runs together.

Based on our current form, I think it's pie in the sky stuff. We won't gain another point all season.

Iíd still take my chances of staying up on Watford not beating Man City
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Damo70 on July 12, 2020, 10:53:17 AM
Palace's two centre halves Tomkins and Cahill are both ruled out injured for today's game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 12, 2020, 10:53:38 AM
I don't think 3 wins will be enough - We need all 4!

I can see West Ham/Watford drawing, and Watford beating Man City (they beat Liverpool convincingly remember, and Man City will have one eye on the return of the Champions League by that point). West Ham/Watford could both realistically finish on 38pts (assuming West Ham beat us), leaving us 11 points behind. We need all 4 wins, and hope that they don't put similar runs together.

Based on our current form, I think it's pie in the sky stuff. We won't gain another point all season.

Iíd still take my chances of staying up on Watford not beating Man City

It's a big risk though.... The form they've got themselves in, and with Pearson in charge, is it too unrealistic to expect Watford to pick up points against either Man City (H) or Arsenal (A) if needed?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 12, 2020, 10:57:15 AM
Theyíve lost 4 on the spin who better to play next, none other than Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 12, 2020, 11:03:28 AM
Theyíve lost 4 on the spin who better to play next, none other than Aston Villa.
Sorry to be pedantic, but it's two - Chelsea(H) and Leicester(A).  THey beat Bournemouth (A) prior to that 2-0.  ;)

Anyway, going back to Damo's comment about their CBs being out... .They could play rush goalie and still win comfortably. Not like we're going to be a threat on their goal!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Pat Mustard on July 12, 2020, 11:04:31 AM
In which case why wonít they just beat West Ham, and then leave us with our fate in our own hands on the last day if we get the other wins we need?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 12, 2020, 11:09:45 AM
In which case why wonít they just beat West Ham, and then leave us with our fate in our own hands on the last day if we get the other wins we need?
Because West Ham are in good form of their own.... Something which we are sadly lacking an iota of.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Mister E on July 12, 2020, 11:09:55 AM
We have the most fouled player in the league. ....
.. and we haven't worked out yet how to take and convert killer set-pieces from all those fouls.
Criminal, really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Pat Mustard on July 12, 2020, 11:17:59 AM
In which case why wonít they just beat West Ham, and then leave us with our fate in our own hands on the last day if we get the other wins we need?
Because West Ham are in good form of their own.... Something which we are sadly lacking an iota of.

To be fair, Man City are in quite good form too - doesnít that count?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: CT on July 12, 2020, 11:18:43 AM
We have the most fouled player in the league. ....
.. and we haven't worked out yet how to take and convert killer set-pieces from all those fouls.
Criminal, really.

Iíd say weíre pretty consistent with our set pieces.

Consistently awful at defending them, and consistently poor at delivering them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 12, 2020, 11:28:33 AM
In which case why wonít they just beat West Ham, and then leave us with our fate in our own hands on the last day if we get the other wins we need?
Because West Ham are in good form of their own.... Something which we are sadly lacking an iota of.

To be fair, Man City are in quite good form too - doesnít that count?

It does, but if you look at the two teams' run-ins, and their likely motivation at the point that they face each other...

Watford will need one more win at that point to probably secure survival, whilst Man City will have just come off the back of the FA Cup semi against Arsenal. Man City's two remaining league games, prior to facing Real Madrid, are Watford and Norwich. I don't think they're going to be going too gung-ho in either of those games with that on the horizon.

Yes, they're still a formidable force even in second gear, but Watford are definitely one of the teams that you wouldn't want to face in that situation imo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: dl9 on July 12, 2020, 11:37:04 AM
Time and time again when the teams around us have failed to get points, we subsequently proceed to shoot ourselves in the foot.

We are where we are because we have f*cked it up for ourselves and letís face it  - for the main we have been imposters in this league. Hurts to type this but itís fact and from day one sitting in the sunshine at Spurs last August -phone in hand - ready to hit the cash out button before they equalised it has been the same time and time and time again. Cyndi Lauper will tell you that, she goes with me to all the matches. She just wanted to have fun but our true colours came shining through. Iíve completely lost track of what it was that I was posting about now so see ya, Iím off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Pat Mustard on July 12, 2020, 11:42:36 AM
In which case why wonít they just beat West Ham, and then leave us with our fate in our own hands on the last day if we get the other wins we need?
Because West Ham are in good form of their own.... Something which we are sadly lacking an iota of.

To be fair, Man City are in quite good form too - doesnít that count?

It does, but if you look at the two teams' run-ins, and their likely motivation at the point that they face each other...

Watford will need one more win at that point to probably secure survival, whilst Man City will have just come off the back of the FA Cup semi against Arsenal. Man City's two remaining league games, prior to facing Real Madrid, are Watford and Norwich. I don't think they're going to be going too gung-ho in either of those games with that on the horizon.

Yes, they're still a formidable force even in second gear, but Watford are definitely one of the teams that you wouldn't want to face in that situation imo.

Which is fine, but you can apply that logic across the board - why would Palace and Everton be any more motivated in our games given neither have anything realistically to play for. You could argue Cityís player will be playing for the Champions League final places so will have more motivation.

I know itís unlikely, but I donít see the point of looking any further ahead than we need to at the moment. Last season we had to win 10 on the spin to make the playoffs and we did it -  we now must win the next two and see where it leaves us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: in exile on July 12, 2020, 11:48:28 AM
If we lose today we will need a new picture for the back of the North Stand
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 12, 2020, 11:49:15 AM
We need to win today if only to keep West Ham and Watford honest when they play each other.

Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 12, 2020, 11:50:29 AM
If we lose today we will need a new picture for the back of the North Stand
A white flag.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: in exile on July 12, 2020, 11:52:20 AM
If we lose today we will need a new picture for the back of the North Stand
A white flag.
Very apt
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: dl9 on July 12, 2020, 12:00:20 PM
If we lose today we will need a new picture for the back of the North Stand

How about a sign that says, ĎWe even conquered Europe in 1982...í

Or another which says

ĎDo you want to bet against usí below that a big sign with the telephone number for Paddy Power.

Ron, Tony, wtf happened
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 12, 2020, 12:11:56 PM
To much defeatism on here

we only need to beat Palace, Everton and West Ham and we probs stay up

all winnable games starting today

The season starts today!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 12, 2020, 12:25:05 PM
To much defeatism on here

we only need to beat Palace, Everton and West Ham and we probs stay up

all winnable games starting today

The season starts today!

No it doesn't. It started last August and we've been fucking awful ever since, hence the reason we're in our current plight. No amount of blind optimism is going to change that unfortunately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: dl9 on July 12, 2020, 12:25:40 PM
To much defeatism on here

we only need to beat Palace, Everton and West Ham and we probs stay up

all winnable games starting today

The season starts today!


Letís hope Deano takes a leaf out of Lloyd Christmasís book when giving the team talk today

https://youtu.be/XEhixvM0wKw

Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: john e on July 12, 2020, 12:35:28 PM
Villa 11/1 to stay up with BG Bet

Lump on ( not you Damo )
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2020, 12:41:46 PM
Villa 11/1 to stay up with BG Bet

Lump on ( not you Damo )

Ha ha!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: dl9 on July 12, 2020, 12:43:46 PM
Villa 11/1 to stay up with BG Bet

Lump on ( not you Damo )

https://youtu.be/tr0VnvtHVNg


All of a sudden as kick off looms so does the Dunkirk spirit

Oh no, itís happening again...

ďNurse!Ē
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 12, 2020, 12:45:47 PM
To much defeatism on here

we only need to beat Palace, Everton and West Ham and we probs stay up

all winnable games starting today

The season starts today!

No it doesn't.

Thursday?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Ads on July 12, 2020, 12:47:14 PM
Lets do something revolutionary today and win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: john e on July 12, 2020, 12:50:28 PM
Lets do something revolutionary today and win.

The Revolution starts today
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: SW9-VILLA on July 12, 2020, 12:54:45 PM
Need to get Guilbert on today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 12, 2020, 12:55:27 PM
A Villa fan sending racist abuse to Zaha: https://twitter.com/wilfriedzaha/status/1282273543208808450

I hope the horrible little prick is arrested.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Skerra on July 12, 2020, 01:05:11 PM
As match approaches, thereís always a new found optimism. Unfortunately, usually followed by ffs once the match actually starts. Seems an age since someone has posted scorcioooooooo.
Improbabile, but we could go 4 matches unbeaten, say..win today and v West Ham and draws against Everton and Arsenal, giving us a total of 35. With our goal difference we would need 36 at least and I also think West Ham and Watford will pick up enough points to finish on at least 36, possibly 37.
Itís the hope that kills you so, as a rational person, probably best give up hope so that we are alive to keep following our beloved team in the Championship next season!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 12, 2020, 01:11:21 PM
The optimism usually dies when we see the team sheet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on July 12, 2020, 01:16:12 PM
A Villa fan sending racist abuse to Zaha: https://twitter.com/wilfriedzaha/status/1282273543208808450

I hope the horrible little prick is arrested.

Utter scum. Let's hope the police can track him down.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 12, 2020, 01:18:27 PM
I canít be arsed to post the match thread but Guilbert is on the bench again with Konsa RB. We need to attack Palace and we have a CB at RB with 2 on the bench. And two left footed CBís. fuck me
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: CT on July 12, 2020, 01:21:35 PM
The optimism usually dies when we see the team sheet.


Yep, itís has again today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on July 12, 2020, 01:21:47 PM
.... and McGinn starting again, even with that horror showing the other day.

Fuck off Smith. Please, just fuck off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Clampy on July 12, 2020, 01:22:03 PM
I canít be arsed to post the match thread but Guilbert is on the bench again with Konsa RB. We need to attack Palace and we have a CB at RB with 2 on the bench. And two left footed CBís. fuck me

I've just said that to some mates. We don't need two right backs on the bench. Only one striker on the bench as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Villan82 on July 12, 2020, 01:23:35 PM
Trezeguet. What's the point? He will never score or assist.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 12, 2020, 01:23:41 PM
I canít be arsed to post the match thread but Guilbert is on the bench again with Konsa RB. We need to attack Palace and we have a CB at RB with 2 on the bench. And two left footed CBís. fuck me

I've just said that to some mates. We don't need two right backs on the bench. Only one striker on the bench as well.

Itís fucking stupid. We are going down because this is the culmination of a season of sheer stupidity.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: CT on July 12, 2020, 01:24:07 PM
This is our ďabsolutely go for it, have to get three pointsĒ team?

Fucking Trezeguet, again!!!

Eric Black never left.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Villan82 on July 12, 2020, 01:25:23 PM
I canít be arsed to post the match thread but Guilbert is on the bench again with Konsa RB. We need to attack Palace and we have a CB at RB with 2 on the bench. And two left footed CBís. fuck me

I've just said that to some mates. We don't need two right backs on the bench. Only one striker on the bench as well.

Itís fucking stupid. We are going down because this is the culmination of a season of sheer stupidity.

The stupidest of all being leaving a crocked Mings on the pitch against Leicester while the entire villa bench scratched their heads as Vardy ran passed him to score the opener.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: tomd2103 on July 12, 2020, 01:25:44 PM
A Villa fan sending racist abuse to Zaha: https://twitter.com/wilfriedzaha/status/1282273543208808450

I hope the horrible little prick is arrested.

Words fail.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2020, 01:26:20 PM
That starting 11.  Dear lord.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: devilla on July 12, 2020, 01:26:58 PM
Einstein said that the definition of madness is trying the same thing again and again and expecting different results. He's right you know.

Why oh why is Trez starting again?? Two right backs on the bench and a centre back at right back AGAIN. WTAF?
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Matt C on July 12, 2020, 01:27:38 PM
Ayew & Benteke up front for Palace? Pretty sure I know how this one ends.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 12, 2020, 01:27:52 PM
Iím fucking done with Dean Smith. He hasnít learned a damn thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Des Little on July 12, 2020, 01:28:51 PM
How does a Fred not make this team? Baffling
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: devilla on July 12, 2020, 01:30:08 PM
A Villa fan sending racist abuse to Zaha: https://twitter.com/wilfriedzaha/status/1282273543208808450

I hope the horrible little prick is arrested.

Words fail.

Utter scum.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2020, 01:30:35 PM
Iím fucking done with Dean Smith. He hasnít learned a damn thing.

He's an absolute simpleton.  Somebody that stupid doesn't deserve to keep his job.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: Villan82 on July 12, 2020, 01:30:46 PM
Ayew & Benteke up front for Palace? Pretty sure I know how this one ends.

If there's bad karma in football you know who will be on the receiving end. Every single time.

Based on the past ten years, our name should be Bad Karma FC.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 12, 2020, 01:30:49 PM
A Villa fan sending racist abuse to Zaha: https://twitter.com/wilfriedzaha/status/1282273543208808450

I hope the horrible little prick is arrested.

What an absolute fucking c***.

If anyone knows this prick please pass his details onto the police/club so we can get him banned for life.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: devilla on July 12, 2020, 01:35:09 PM
Off topic but just seen Wolves third goal. Wow. Light years from the utter dross that we're serving up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa 0 v Crystal Palace Pre Match Thread.
Post by: fbriai on July 27, 2020, 09:00:02 AM
To much defeatism on here

we only need to beat Palace, Everton and West Ham and we probs stay up

all winnable games starting today

More winnable games, I canít wait ;D chuckles.

Win the next two

and weíre right back in it

Keep the Faith

I've kept these post in mind since I read them.

John E, you encapsulated my thinking entirely, but I didn't want to tempt fate by posting it!

Never give up. UTV!
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