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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on July 05, 2020, 03:30:37 PM
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Yep DS was hinting Reina would be back in.
Trez and AEG both starting is a bit of a shock.
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I have the same feeling that I had before Man City before lockdown.
I fear this won’t be pretty.
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Oh !
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Cowardly
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4-5-1?
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El Ghazi and Trezeguet. Oh dear......
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El Ghazi and Trezeguet had better track back. Surprised to see Reina given the nod.
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Cowardly
How is playing with so many attackers cowardly?
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Oh Christ. Oh well come on Villa surprise me.
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Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Keita, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Salah, Origi, Mane.
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Fucking hell
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Konsa at RB again with two RB’s on the bench. MON playing Cuellar when Luke Moore is on the bench. Bizarre
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Konsa at RB again with two RB’s on the bench. MON playing Cuellar when Luke Moore is on the bench. Bizarre
Luke Young
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Trez and AEG again.
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Wtf is that.
I completely forgot about Lansbury.
Smith has lost the plot. Totally agree about 2 right backs on bench. I can only think playing Reina is part of the deal so he plays at Anfield as he certainly does not deserve to be in the team.
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It’s not quite their strongest team but.....
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Awful team. The least threatening front three in living memory. A non-scoring striker and two non-scoring wingers who are slow and can’t beat a man. This has 6-0 all over it.
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Konsa at RB again with two RB’s on the bench. MON playing Cuellar when Luke Moore is on the bench. Bizarre
Luke Young
I was going to say I was struggling to work that one out!
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Konsa at RB again with two RB’s on the bench. MON playing Cuellar when Luke Moore is on the bench. Bizarre
Luke Young
That may be the only laugh I'll have today.
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Our chances of getting something from this with whatever team was put out was going to be minimal but I just don't see what our 'wingers' have shown to justify their inclusion.
Alexander-Arnold and Robertson are going to have a field day.
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They might not stop at 6. Might push on for double figures.
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AEG and Trez did OK against them at VP? Hopefully try and keep their full backs pinned back. We havent got any other options to do that job, bar Grealish? Jota?
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That team looks both toothless and defensively fragile. Fuck sake, the guy is clueless isn’t he.
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Talk about Barry getting a game, doesn't even make the bench.
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It's either going to work really well or be a total car crash, don't think i'd have been starting so many attackers.
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What is the point in keeping Drinkwater on if Smith doesn't involve him? Not saying he should be involved, just he's an unnecessary financial drain if Smith doesn't rate him.
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Konsa at RB again with two RB’s on the bench. MON playing Cuellar when Luke Moore is on the bench. Bizarre
Luke Young
Aye that’s him. Like MON I forgot him
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Play an effin' RB at /RB, please!
And Lansbury? - why??!!!
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That team looks both toothless and defensively fragile. Fuck sake, the guy is clueless isn’t he.
We have no dentures to call on, let alone actual teeth.
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I’ve bought goals.
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Talk about Barry getting a game, doesn't even make the bench.
Usual internet nonsense. I don't think he is even training with the first team. Smith prefers Vassilev.
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What is the point in keeping Drinkwater on if Smith doesn't involve him? Not saying he should be involved, just he's an unnecessary financial drain if Smith doesn't rate him.
About half that starting 11 are an unnecessary financial drain.
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What’s his alternative! Davis has been a better striker than samatta.
Aeg and trez are frustrating to say the least and not good enough but who else
Who on that bench could come in.
We are a shambles of a squad the recruitment has been a disgrace and every week it shows
When we go to be stuck with this squad omnibus Grealish McGinn Douglas and Mings is frightening
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Can’t remember ever putting out a worse back 4 than that
Mings is OK the others are not even championship level
we have no chance with that defence
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Staggered Trez and El Ghazi playing. They’ve both offered the square root of **** all of late. Please prove me wrong.
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Maybe DS thinks he has a better chance of keeping his job if we get relegated?
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Can’t remember ever putting out a worse back 4 than that
Mings is OK the others are not even championship level
we have no chance with that defence
Richards, Lescott, Cissokho say hello.
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The way people talk on these match threads is like we've got Mellberg, Laursen and Ashley Young on the bench.
We can be equally bad with Jota, Guilbert etc starting instead if people like, it's tough putting out a side that people fancy to get anything in a game like this, or most games at this level for that matter.
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Staggered Trez and El Ghazi playing. They’ve both offered the square root of **** all of late. Please prove me wrong.
It takes some explaining.
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The quality of squad argument is fair enough to a point ... but el ghazi and Trezeguet both starting? That defence??
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Cowardly
How is playing with so many attackers cowardly?
You regard AEG and Trez as attackers??? The stats tell the story. This is a selection designed to limit damage - and that in my court is cowardly. No adventure at all. Same old same old and as a result, result and performance are inevitable
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Staggered Trez and El Ghazi playing. They’ve both offered the square root of **** all of late.
Of late? I pray the Liverpool defence are as generous.
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Full of kids...NOT.
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That they haven't done a fat lot doesn't alter they are attackers, I doubt many would rate their defensive work*
*dip your bread, even Davis would bury that one.
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Just playing a right back at right back would’ve been nice.
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Can’t remember ever putting out a worse back 4 than that
Mings is OK the others are not even championship level
we have no chance with that defence
Richards, Lescott, Cissokho say hello.
Bacuna, Richards, Toner, Cisokho.
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Can we just get it over and done with please?
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I’m thinking golden goal for this.
12 minutes I reckon.
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Can we just get it over and done with please?
Afraid not. 5 games left after today.
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Our available "strikers" have scored 2 league goals in 2020. In fact, 2 all season. We're not blessed with options.
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I’m thinking golden goal for this.
12 minutes I reckon.
You’re expecting a slow start from Liverpool then?
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Come on, we were never going to win today, whoever's playing for us.
Anyway. I'll see if my sister's dog's up for a walk.
TRY to keep the goal difference respectable, Villa!
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Can’t remember ever putting out a worse back 4 than that
Mings is OK the others are not even championship level
we have no chance with that defence
Richards, Lescott, Cissokho say hello.
We’re bottom feeding here but 3 of our back 4 struggle to control a football and as for passing it it’s comical
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"Just try not to lose by too many, lads!"
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What would you class as respectable? 5 nil?
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"Just try not to lose by too many, lads!"
You just know that’s what the team talk is. And after we get battered 6-0 the press conference will be “I thought we were excellent. I really did”
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What would you class as respectable? 5 nil?
Single figures?
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Reina's going to get a bad back.
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You're on form this afternoon, Risso.
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So we have extended Drinkwater’s contract yet he can’t make the subs bench. Any ideas?
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Not the kids after a champion medal this time then? Below 6 will be a victory as they will be up for this. Comparing our fielded side to our benched players is irrelevant. Who would we honestly bring on to make much of a difference. Annoyingly we won’t get anything out of this game other than another humiliation if Liverpool turn up.
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El Ghazi and Trezeguet both started in the home match.
Trezeguet scored.
Grealish was out.
We bloody nearly beat them.
Admittedly defence looked a lot different
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El Ghazi and Trezeguet both started in the home match.
Trezeguet scored.
Grealish was out.
We bloody nearly beat them.
Admittedly defence looked a lot different
That was probably our most committed performance of the season in many ways but a lot has happened since then...
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Not the kids after a champion medal this time then? Below 6 will be a victory as they will be up for this. Comparing our fielded side to our benched players is irrelevant. Who would we honestly bring on to make much of a difference. Annoyingly we won’t get anything out of this game other than another humiliation if Liverpool turn up.
Rules have changed I think, clubs receive 40 medals and can give them out as they see fit, only rule is every player with 5 league appearances has to receive one.
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You're on form this afternoon, Risso.
Somebody in a Villa top has to be.
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Go on Emile, hit the sour faced gimp.
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Yes, shut up Souness.
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Souness called it right: JG gets fouled so much because he is not seeing the bigger the picture and holding onto the ball too much.
That's a very succinct description of JG's recent ineffectiveness.
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We're gonna get battered. Keep it under three and we stay above Bournemouth.
Souness really is a Liverpool ******.
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Sourness has got a point about Grealish holding onto the ball too long but the problem is that everyone else around him is nowhere near his level. And this is where the question about recruitment comes in.
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The bigger picture is there's no one worth passing to.
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Souness called it right: JG gets fouled so much because he is not seeing the bigger the picture and holding onto the ball too much.
That's a very succinct description of JG's recent ineffectiveness.
As opposed to other players not wanting the ball because they are under-confident or just crap. Absolute nonsense. Perhaps it also because we can get the ball in the box and hope for the centre halves to win a ball every once in a blue moon.
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Fuck off with your guard of honour.
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Not the kids after a champion medal this time then? Below 6 will be a victory as they will be up for this. Comparing our fielded side to our benched players is irrelevant. Who would we honestly bring on to make much of a difference. Annoyingly we won’t get anything out of this game other than another humiliation if Liverpool turn up.
Rules have changed I think, clubs receive 40 medals and can give them out as they see fit, only rule is every player with 5 league appearances has to receive one.
Just read that on the bin dippers forum. Well, I have a beer. Missus bought them. Fucking carlsburg but she thinks we are playing manure.....
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We expect him to pick the ball up from way too deep and produce miracles. Needs to play and pick the ball up much higher up the pitch.
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How many guards of honour are they going to get? Jeez...
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Fuck this guard of honour smiling bollocks too. What the fuck is Dean Smith doing amongst them?
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Three of the back four have "preparing for the Championship" written all over them.
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This guard of honour stuff really is a load of old bollocks. I'd much prefer we'd not done it. Or given them them wanker sign as they came out.
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Doing Reina a favour too. What the actual fuck!
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Our players probably hoping they'll go easy if we clap them out but don't be too bitter it is their first game at home since wining the thing.
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Cringey.
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This guard of honour stuff really is a load of old bollocks. I'd much prefer we'd not done it. Or given them them wanker sign as they came out.
This, all day long. I know you're joking but show them no respect whatsover.
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It would be great to turn these fuckers over.
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30 seconds in. Still in it!
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Here comes the pain.
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7 players in our half already long afternoon ahead
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Nothing in it so far, champions my arse.
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All over 'em.
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Fucking Carragher commentating. That's a piss take.
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I’ve got 5live coverage. Who don’t seem to want to actually commentate. Come on villa. West Ham are dragging themselves out of this.
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Optimistic team selection. Nyland and Samatta can have no complaints anyway, wouldn't have dropped Nakamba though.
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Same old scousers, always cheating.
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What would you class as respectable? 5 nil?
Aggregate win? We're currently 6-2 up.
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I can’t do 5live coverage......Liverpool wankfest whilst digging at how shit we are. Do the commentators not know we can’t fucking see the action ffs.
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Fucking Carragher commentating. That's a piss take.
Fucking Beglin on mine. They're everywhere.
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I think i'm on 5Live, thick fucks don't seem to realise that with no crowd noise them describing the action is a touch more important than waffling on about complete bollocks, twats.
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It’s all Villa.
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Started ok here. AEG looks lively.
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I think i'm on 5Live, thick fucks don't seem to realise that with no crowd noise them describing the action is a touch more important than waffling on about complete bollocks, twats.
That’s the sum of it. Will have to swap to wm. Or keep watching this thread
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Liverpool holding on for the point.
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What on earth was that Jack?
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Jack playing much further up the pitch.
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Liverpool do look really subdued.
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I think i'm on 5Live, thick fucks don't seem to realise that with no crowd noise them describing the action is a touch more important than waffling on about complete bollocks, twats.
That’s the sum of it. Will have to swap to wm. Or keep watching this thread
WM had the Albion game so that's why i'm on this, dunno if we're on DAB as I don't have that.
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Fuck me
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Phil Dawkes writing the BBC online thread.
Another wanker
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Good tackle Taylor.
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Jack down
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Souness called it right: JG gets fouled so much because he is not seeing the bigger the picture and holding onto the ball too much.
That's a very succinct description of JG's recent ineffectiveness.
Or maybe he does see the bigger picture and theres nothing going on in it.
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Fucking Carragher commentating. That's a piss take.
It's not even subtle is it?
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Hause should not be passed the ball.
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Jack back on
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I think i'm on 5Live, thick fucks don't seem to realise that with no crowd noise them describing the action is a touch more important than waffling on about complete bollocks, twats.
That’s the sum of it. Will have to swap to wm. Or keep watching this thread
WM had the Albion game so that's why i'm on this, dunno if we're on DAB as I don't have that.
It is but think it’s on fm after stripey game.
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El ghazi started well, in fairness.
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AEG needs to keep this up.
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When do Davis and Trezeguet arrive at the ground?
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We've got them worried.
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Well done Dougie!
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We aren’t sounding too bad yet. How’s it looking for those watching this?
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John Murray is a pretty mediocre commentator imo. Mark Lawrenson actually talked a fair amount about us in the build up, thinks we should keep DS in charge for next season whatever happens.
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Luiz has added consistency and tackling to his game.
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We aren’t sounding too bad yet. How’s it looking for those watching this?
We've played a lot worse this season
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We aren’t sounding too bad yet. How’s it looking for those watching this?
We've been OK to be fair. Nothing much to get excited about from either side but we've been neat and tidy with no major fuck ups so far.
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Awful from McGinn.
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Hopefully Liverpool don't raise their intensity at all. No reason for them to now.
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Hause and Davis are absolute garbage
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Luiz playing well.
We have managed to get a couple of decent crosses in but these are completely wasted as we have no presence in the box.
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We aren’t sounding too bad yet. How’s it looking for those watching this?
We've been OK to be fair. Nothing much to get excited about from either side but we've been neat and tidy with no major fuck ups so far.
Cheers. I hope we can get at least a goal.
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Really nice stuff there. C'mon Villa.
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Yellow card for Robertson after great work from Luiz.
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Card for Robertson after a tidy piece of football to release Luiz.
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Filthy skills from aeg and luiz there.
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Why can't our centre-halves make attacking headers?
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Really nice from AEG and Douglas.
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Has Trezeguet had a touch yet?
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It’s the age old saying “if we’d on my played with this much determination all season...”
Sheff Utd proved with determination, organization and a bit of skill when needed you can compete. We may not win today but it’s performances that matter and we’ve not had enough good ones.
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Better team in the first quarter.
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We need a spark.
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Has Trezeguet had a touch yet?
Don't recall one. All our good stuff is coming down the right.
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Well that has been a nice organised start.
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McGinn shouldn’t be on the pitch. Poor bloke isn’t ready.
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These fucking drinks breaks. After 23 minutes, ridiculous.
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We are doing fine. Worry is if Liverpool get 1 it could quickly become much worse like at Leicester.
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Solid start. Good in defence and looking dangerous on a wing.
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I understand a drinks break if it’s boiling hot. Hardly tropical out there is it?
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Has Trezeguet had a touch yet?
Trezequet is 90% garbage and the thought that we passed on Benrahma to sign this guy is maddening (score a hat-trick for Brentford today).
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Not a bad start, stopped the points of their triangles from being in behind us.
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McGinn shouldn’t be on the pitch. Poor bloke isn’t ready.
Is it just me or does he not quite look in the best shape?
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Played pretty well. Problem is Davis just doesn’t look like a striker, he never really gets in the right position.
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McGinn shouldn’t be on the pitch. Poor bloke isn’t ready.
Is it just me or does he not quite look in the best shape?
When he attempted to track a runner earlier, he reminded me of Peter Reid in '86.
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Played pretty well. Problem is Davis just doesn’t look like a striker, he never really gets in the right position.
He's useless. Even less goal threat than Heskey, and without the hold up play and helping the others around him.
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Played pretty well. Problem is Davis just doesn’t look like a striker, he never really gets in the right position.
Agreed, he looks lost.
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McGinn shouldn’t be on the pitch. Poor bloke isn’t ready.
Is it just me or does he not quite look in the best shape?
Yeah thought the same. Looks like he’s annoyed by his own slowness. Can’t get to anything.
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McGinn looks like he has a bit of his tenacity back.
Just need his quality to,come back too.
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McGinn shouldn’t be on the pitch. Poor bloke isn’t ready.
Is it just me or does he not quite look in the best shape?
When he attempted to track a runner earlier, he reminded me of Peter Reid in '86.
Or a late in career lumbering Gareth Barry
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McGinn looks like he has a bit of his tenacity back.
Just need his quality to,come back too.
His arse is certainly back.
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These balls up from the back seeking to bypass the midfield - how often do they work?
Leicester do it well. I can't recall a time when it ever worked for Villa. Why do we persist with it? Particularly with Davis looking less than useful up front.
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This constant lobbing of the ball just isn't working. It just comes straight back at us.
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This constant lobbing of the ball just isn't working. It just comes straight back at us.
Great minds.
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I actually think drinkwater should be in for McGinn, which is a bizarre thing to think but there you go.
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We are soooooooo slow and ponderous. Good break, petered out to nothing.
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We are soooooooo slow and ponderous. Good break, petered out to nothing.
Yep. Can't understand why Davis (?) didn't play the ball over the defense with Jack and El Ghazi making runs behind their markers.
He had the space to try it.
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Feels like a game we'll lose 2 nil rather than 4 or 5 at least.
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For me our main problem is we can’t string two passes together, we have to lump it up the pitch in the hope it finds one of our players.
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This constant lobbing of the ball just isn't working. It just comes straight back at us.
Great minds.
You can see the instruction it to launch it into space behind the fullbacks quickly but Davis isn’t getting to the ball at all.
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We are soooooooo slow and ponderous. Good break, petered out to nothing.
Yep. Can't understand why Davis (?) didn't play the ball over the defense with Jack and El Ghazi making runs behind their markers.
He had the space to try it.
Everybody's first thought is to turn round and play it backwards.
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A shot! On target!
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A shot !
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The game completely passing Trezeguet by. We've started ok but need to not revert to type and kick it long and hope for the best. Good effort from Douggie.
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Klopp obviously told them over drinks to pull their fingers out.
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For me our main problem is we can’t string two passes together, we have to lump it up the pitch in the hope it finds one of our players.
It's a myth though, I know it's rare but we've seen it happen. AEG and Luiz earlier for instance.
We have to try. The risk of giving the ball away is the same if we keep lobbing it over the top
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Decent hit Douglas.
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I somehow think Davis is not ready to challenge Haaland to best young striker in Europe Award this season.
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We've had the only shot on target so far.
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Luiz should have buried that.
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We are soooooooo slow and ponderous. Good break, petered out to nothing.
Yep. Can't understand why Davis (?) didn't play the ball over the defense with Jack and El Ghazi making runs behind their markers.
He had the space to try it.
It was a fucking massive space to play it into.
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What is the point of Trezeguet.
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What the fuck was that Trezeguet, FFS man.
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that is awful shit quality from trezeguet.
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McGinn booked.
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What the fuck was that Trezeguet, FFS man.
Shocking.
Looked like a cross of a centre-back.
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Trezeguet is a terrible player. There’s nothing there at all.
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that is awful shit quality from trezeguet.
For a £10m winger to cross like that, it's abysmal.
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Annoying that petered out, but smart play by Mings.
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McGinn booked.
Sky must be behind? You had that posted a full 30 seconds before it happened here!
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a lot better than what I was expecting I have to say
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We keep under hitting simple passes
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Liverpool look well and truly on the beach. The worry is that they bring Firmino on after the break and up the tempo a bit.
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Why isn’t grealish getting on the ball?
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Luiz getting all the kicks Grealish usually gets today. He's doing well on the ball, Doug. And Jack has been very quiet.
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Why isn’t grealish getting on the ball?
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Think he’s taken a knock
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Trez is piss-poor, but the others are doing okay-ish.
The big boot up top is really tedious, though.
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McGinn booked.
Sky must be behind? You had that posted a full 30 seconds before it happened here!
Actually listening to 5 live through the tv, that's normally about 20 seconds behind if you're listening to the same station on the wireless!
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The whole road just came out to clap us getting to 30 mins.
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Wm coverage is now on FM.
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Luis our best player again so far.
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Corner!
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Double post
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Liverpool look well and truly on the beach. The worry is that they bring Firmino on after the break and up the tempo a bit.
Yeah more will stick in the final third with him on the pitch.
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It's hilarious watching us try to play counter-attack here. We must have the slowest attack in the Premier League. They can't counter.
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Doug is getting better and better with each game. Really quite impressed with him.
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El Ghazi is doing well too.
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Jack down again
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Jack's f***ed.
Must've seen we've playing his future team next.
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Davis has got caught offside 4 times in 38 minutes, wake up idiot!
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We have actually broke very well.
The problem is the utter lack of presence and quality when the ball goes into the box.
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Second time Jack has been down now. Not sure he's going to finish the game.
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Grealish looks done for.
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Jack down again
That ankle isn't right.
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Why doesn’t Davis ever gamble and attack the ball?
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Didn’t they say it was a gash earlier? Hopefully
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Why doesn’t Davis ever gamble and attack the ball?
Because he's not a natural striker.
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Grealish feeds El Ghazi then drops back. WTF?
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Didn’t they say it was a gash earlier? Hopefully
I think they were saying we're gash
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Get Samatta on.
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Trezeguet turning his back on a challenge.
Get the fucker off.
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Taylor been good so far.
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Trezeguet turning his back on a challenge.
Get the fucker off.
Doesn't like it up him. Neither does El Ghazi in fairness
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Why doesn’t Davis ever gamble and attack the ball?
Because he’s dreadful and not a striker. He’s a lamppost.
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He has. Whole defence has been decent
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I'm sure I saw Trezeguet's name on the teamsheet but I must've been mistaken...
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McGinn is a shadow of his former self.
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what a horrible shot from McGinniesta.
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A non-event of a first half, ie bloody great from our point of view!
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Luiz is our best chance of a spark
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FFS McGinn!
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Pleasantly surprised, we may win this.
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McGinn is a shadow of his former self.
He looks woefully out of shape and just off in every sense of the word. Right now he doesn’t look a starting PL player. More a PL squad player to be brought on late to add some energy in the last 20 or a top championship talent.
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We’ve been decent, Douglas excellent and AEG good, but the problem is that we know that one goal finishes us.
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Reinas distribution is wank
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McGinn is a shadow of his former self.
He looks woefully out of shape and just off in every sense of the word. Right now he doesn’t look a starting PL player. More a PL squad player to be brought on late to add some energy in the last 20 or a top championship talent.
He's played like Hourihane in other words.
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HT
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Not too bad at all. Well done Villa.
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Good half lads, well done.
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Would take a point at this stage. We just have no strike force
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Very encouraging.
Think we've kept our shape and let them have the percentage ball out wide. McGinn growing into it, Dougie good. Trez is a disappointment, that silly hack gave them a good potential opening and he's wasted two balls.
The sort of organisation away from home all year would have us with more points.
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Happy with that. Flat, ordinary, a bit dull. Keep a clean sheet for 45 minutes and we get at least one bonus point.
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Would take a point at this stage. We just have no strike force
This is why we'll get relegated. Teams who can't score don't stay up.
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Would take a point at this stage. We just have no strike force
You say that like you wouldn't normally take a point against the League and European Champions...?
I think all of us would in fairness.
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Would take a point at this stage. We just have no strike force
I think I'd take a point if we were 2 up in stoppage time.
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The most solid and organised we've looked this season. No complaints here.
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Happy with that, pleasantly surprised. If only we had a striker who could score or at least show some positional awareness.
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Good so far.
Hour mark will be the test as ever in these games and what we do or don't do.
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Small glimpses of the real SJM at the end. Good half considering jack wasn’t in it. Luis is looking like a player.
We should go for this. Liverpool are on the beach. I predict they’ll get beaten a few times from here on in.
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Decent effort that. Difficult to see Liverpool being so poor in the 2nd half though
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Should have made more of that, Liverpool still look hungover, good opportunity missed, I suppose you could say reaching half time and still 0-0 is a bonus, fact is they can turn this in a heartbeat and we need something from this.
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My concern is Liverpool have several more gears they can go up. If they want to. That was pretty much it for us.
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The most solid and organised we've looked this season. No complaints here.
Absolutely. Test will come when Liverpool change their tactics or system and the coaching staff are called on to react.
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My concern is Liverpool have several more gears they can go up. If they want to. That was pretty much it for us.
They've got about 20 more gears on the bench in one certain player waiting to come on.
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I'd take a 1-0 defeat tbh. Yes incredibly defeatish but have to cover all bases and we'd still be well in touch with Watford regarding the GD.
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I think we’ve done ok considering.
It just feels like we’re waiting for the inevitable, even though they haven’t troubled us so far.
Once they get the first it will be over. Just need to keep this going as long as possible. Please.
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My concern is Liverpool have several more gears they can go up. If they want to. That was pretty much it for us.
Yep
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Kept our shape well.
The back 4 have been protected well with Luiz and McGinn dropping back to help out.
For me, Trez off for anyone who will offer something more than he gives.
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Salah dive not embrrassing Sousness you one eyed prick.
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Fucking Souness. Going on about Luiz and the way he went down.
He must have missed Salah playing in his slippers in that first half.
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Wouldn't mind giving Vassilev the chance (over Trez)
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Souness is just a joyless ******.
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Wouldn't mind giving Vassilev the chance
Yep, why not.....as long as it’s for Trez.
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Mark Lawrenson
Ex-Liverpool defender on BBC Radio 5 Live
"We should praise Villa, defensively they've been very good as you'd expect from a Dean Smith side"
Appears he's never actually watched a Dean Smith side before.
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Mark Lawrenson
Ex-Liverpool defender on BBC Radio 5 Live
"We should praise Villa, defensively they've been very good as you'd expect from a Dean Smith side"
Appears he's never actually watched a Dean Smith side before.
;D ;D ???
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Mark Lawrenson
Ex-Liverpool defender on BBC Radio 5 Live
"We should praise Villa, defensively they've been very good as you'd expect from a Dean Smith side"
Appears he's never actually watched a Dean Smith side before.
I'm not convinced Lawro could tell you what year it was if you asked him
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My concern is Liverpool have several more gears they can go up. If they want to. That was pretty much it for us.
Disagree
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Mark Lawrenson
Ex-Liverpool defender on BBC Radio 5 Live
"We should praise Villa, defensively they've been very good as you'd expect from a Dean Smith side"
Appears he's never actually watched a Dean Smith side before.
I'm not convinced Lawro could tell you what year it was if you asked him
Doesn’t he think everything is back in the dark ages ?
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Trezeguet's turn to be worse than El Ghazi today.
Wonder if Jack will be out in the second half? If not, perhaps give Jota a chance in the hole.
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Don't do anything daft Villa. I know its ingrained in us, but a very benign 45 minutes would go down a treat.
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Souness is just a joyless c***.
What's with the joyless?
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Salah dive not embrrassing Sousness you one eyed prick.
Well said. What a bitter twat Souness is. He was mocked over here when he managed Benfica. tactically inept. There was also the question of some dodgy signings he made who were all linked to an agent mate of his.
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Still think Liverpool will win, but that was an excellent first half from us.
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Mark Lawrenson
Ex-Liverpool defender on BBC Radio 5 Live
"We should praise Villa, defensively they've been very good as you'd expect from a Dean Smith side"
Appears he's never actually watched a Dean Smith side before.
What a lazy fucking statement to make. With 45 min to go in this game we are statistically the 2nd worst defensive side in the league. It’s why we are where we are. He’s such a useless idiot.
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Cue the mandatory cock up within 5 mins of the second half to give liverpool the lead.
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We've done just fine. We don't expect to win obviously, no team in the country would. But we're in this game.
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Souness is just a joyless c***.
What's with the joyless?
You're quite right, why use 2 words where 1 would do...
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Time to smash these ******
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Fantastic music to come out to, Kashmir. Fair play for that.
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McGinn very frustrating to watch just now.
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What kind of fucking pass was that Davis?
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Liverpool finding a lot more space.
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My arse was Grealish offside then.
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ooooohhhhhhh
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A counterattack.
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My arse was Grealish offside then.
Thought the same, looked to me he'd stepped back right on time
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Cue the mandatory cock up within 5 mins of the second half to give liverpool the lead.
Make more of these predictions, please.
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I'm not about to curse anything by making any statements on how we've opened up this second half...
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We should be in front.
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We have started this half really well.
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Looked even better this half.
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We should be in front.
I hope you accept full responsibility if we lose.
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Another foul by McGinn. He needs to be careful.
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We have started this half really well.
Agreed, actual attacking intent. Henderson about to come on soon.
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Taylor is playing well
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Taylor is playing well
Don't....... please don't.........
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Trezeguet is terrible, still. That much is a constant. He simply cannot cross the ball properly.
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We have started this half really well.
Agreed, actual attacking intent. Henderson about to come on soon.
Most Liverpool fans believe he is the player that makes them tick. A better version of Kevin Richardson. Sort of
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Ha ha, fell for that one, ref.
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Odds on. They’ll make the change, score.
Then we’ll make a change.
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Henderson, Wjinaldum and Firmino coming on. Fucking hell. A little bit more intimidating than Samatta, Elmohamady and Lansbury!
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Our crossing is still wank.
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Henderson, Wjinaldum and Firmino coming on. Fucking hell. A little bit more intimidating than Samatta, Elmohamady and Lansbury!
Don’t, I’m trying to cut down on my beer consumption.
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Don't stand off them, that's when they'll kill us.
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Wife just walked in: "Still 0-0, that's good!"
Immediately made her knock on wood.
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Even my wife has just said that McGinn looks fat. and she's married to me.
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Even my wife has just said that McGinn looks fat. and she's married to me.
😂
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Wife just walked in: "Still 0-0, that's good!"
Immediately made her knock on wood.
My missus just handed me another beer.
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So far none of us can really complain however this ends up. This has been a better performance in totality than we all expected. And I almost don’t want us to score until much later on as it will entice Liverpool to up their game. Also I’m fucking nervous and probably spouting bollocks.
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Wife just walked in: "Still 0-0, that's good!"
Immediately made her knock on wood.
My missus just handed me another beer.
Also fair.
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If I’m being generous to trezeguet he can be decent at getting into space and can take a player on but the issue is, as covered above, there is never, ever any end product. Guy can’t cross a football.
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I just hope if we do lose we don’t lose confidence as this is how we should be playing. If only we had a striker.
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My arse was Grealish offside then.
He came back from an offside position so he was as soon as he touched it. I think.
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Keinan's crap isn't he. He tries hard. He's just not good enough.
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So far none of us can really complain however this ends up. This has been a better performance in totality than we all expected. And I almost don’t want us to score until much later on as it will entice Liverpool to up their game. Also I’m fucking nervous and probably spouting bollocks.
Having seen us completely fall apart after the 86th minute earlier this season they'll fancy scoring against us late on, either way
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Keinan's crap isn't he. He tries hard. He's just not good enough.
Very.
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Keinan's crap isn't he. He tries hard. He's just not good enough.
Dreadful. Whoever has suggested he’s the future of Villa needs a doctor. Because what they have is grave and concerning.
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Keinan's crap isn't he. He tries hard. He's just not good enough.
He can hold the ball quite well but he's not a goalscorer
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In his defence, that was a decent bit of work from Davis.
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My 'pro' fit green and black away kit is less clingy on me than McGinn's is I reckon. He needs a size up!
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So far none of us can really complain however this ends up. This has been a better performance in totality than we all expected. And I almost don’t want us to score until much later on as it will entice Liverpool to up their game. Also I’m fucking nervous and probably spouting bollocks.
Having seen us completely fall apart after the 86th minute earlier this season they'll fancy scoring against us late on, either way
Oh no doubt. Our goal will need to be as the ref is just about to end injury time. And even then I’d be worried about conceding twice.
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Konsa has been great at right back today.
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So far none of us can really complain however this ends up. This has been a better performance in totality than we all expected. And I almost don’t want us to score until much later on as it will entice Liverpool to up their game. Also I’m fucking nervous and probably spouting bollocks.
Having seen us completely fall apart after the 86th minute earlier this season they'll fancy scoring against us late on, either way
Oh no doubt. Our goal will need to be as the ref is just about to end injury time. And even then I’d be worried about conceding twice.
Just reading this got my nerves right up!
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Another good quarter, just one to go.
We all know what happens here, though.
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Firmino hasn't scored a home Premier League goal for ages you say....
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Time to make a sub, freshen things up. Get Samatta on.
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Why are we slow to get subs on?
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Konsa has been great at right back today.
Agreed; both FB have - so far - done okay.
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Time to make a sub, freshen things up. Get Samatta on.
Agreed. We need to keep going at them. My biggest fear now is trying to keep the point and thus drop deeper and deeper. We’ve all seen that movie before. It’s a tear jerker.
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Shit
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Fucking hell, there we go.
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Oh well.
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Oh fuck
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One chance for bloody Mane. We all knew that would happen.
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Time for the reactionary subs.
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Oh well, there it is.
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Game over, staggeringly bad defending.
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Right then Dismal, make some fucking subs, Liverpool have ben shit today.
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Konsa has been great at right back today.
Yeah, right.
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Get you fucking heads up and get into them
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Fuck. Just don't concede any more.
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FFS.
Do NOT collapse now Villa, you bottlers.
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So predictable.
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Well that's that then. Play Neil Taylor, expect him to not be able to handle Premier League strikers.
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It would help if we had a right back at right back.
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Get Davis off.
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Just as I'm suggesting both FB have been doing okay, both are caught ball-watching for the goal.
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That’s that. We will try to score now and concede again. Our subs never came. They became fresher and better and we conceded. The Dean Smith Villa way.
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Be happy now just to end with the 1-0
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Jota. Hahahahaha fuck off.
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Samatta and Jota on, AEG and Davis off
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Minutes after a drinks break our defence goes to sleep.
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Davis ??????????
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Salah should have picked up a couple of bookings for those dives
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What the fuck??
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Reina saves
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Can we fuck jota off soon.
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You know you’re fcuked when a bloke who couldn’t get in Blues’ side is brought on.
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Trez still being on the pitch is laughable.
Give Vass a chance there, surely, surely can’t be worse.
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That's a booking FFS.
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Mings injured now.
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Why leave Trezeguet on? He’s done fuck all.
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See this is the problem. We carry no threat, so one goal is generally enough. Jack that was pathetic.
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Nice pass to them by jota.
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AEG off but Trez stays on. Prize pillock.
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Only time anybody had got beyond Taylor. We've been the more dangerous side marginally too.
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Trezeguet is out the door I reckon.
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We have played well, we have had opportunities but lack execution.
Finally 4 4 1 1 which has worked well.
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Mings is crocked.
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Grealish hasn't got off the coach
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we don’t deserve to be losing. But we don’t deserve anything else if that makes sense.
Our team balance just isn’t there. Our wingers are dreadful, our strikers can’t do anything. Defence is prone to lapses.
We have looked good and disciplined for 98% of the time. Just the 2% that has cost us again.
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Why not put Vassiliev on.?
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AEG off but Trez stays on. Prize pillock.
Bizarre decision.
Also the usual failure to make subs when it helps us. Probably scared to make a change while we’re holding our own, which is cOwArDlY.
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FFS not Mings... that really doesn't look good. how on earth do we shuffle that back-line without him?
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Same old fucking story.
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Get mings off.
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Just get the impression that we could play until the end of July and not score.
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Just get the impression that we could play until the end of July and not score.
And we might.
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what an utter embarrassment we are - £120m plus spunked away on this shower of shite.
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Grealish hasn't got off the coach
I know he’s still contributed more than everyone else put together across the season... but he doesn’t look like he’s fancied it since the break, which is a shame.
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Well at least they’ve given it a go today.
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Well, that was an interesting corner. They weren't expecting that.
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What a fantastic corner.
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Indy coming on
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Vassilev coming on.
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Just put the Fcukin ball in the box.
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Fuck sake!
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Well that was floating turd
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It’s stupid decisions like that corner that really fuck us over
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Vassilev coming on.
Is the competition winner coming off?
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What a fucking waste!
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I can’t face watching our games to be honest.
The kids are watching downstairs and effing and jeffing. The youngest one is especially vocal and has a considerably industrial vocabulary. South London innit.
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Yes trez has fucked off half hr too late
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It’s stupid decisions like that corner that really fuck us over
Stupid clever clogs shit, like our transfer policy.
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That corner sums up our season
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Oh Indi Indi Indi Indi Indi Indiana Vassilev.
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For a good while now we literally have zero attacking invention. Whatever we showed in terms of creativity earlier in the season has been scouted and we haven’t adjusted or improved. At this level you have to evolve and improve. This is where Dean Smith has been outthought at this level. He has nothing at all now to go into games because the other teams know just how we will play and what to do about it. Throw in that our players for the most part aren’t good enough and that stopping Jack means stopping us. We are horribly predictable.
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what an utter embarrassment we are - £120m plus spunked away on this shower of shite.
Yeah, being 1-0 down to the League, European and World Champions who have won every single home game this season. What an embarrassment we are
Jesus Christ.
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We've played really well overall, just lack that but of quality up front.
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what an utter embarrassment we are - £120m plus spunked away on this shower of shite.
Yeah, being 1-0 down to the League, European and World Champions who have won every single home game this season. What an embarrassment we are
Jesus Christ.
We are still shit though. And Watford battered them.
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AEM is the best crosser at the club. Should've put him on and moved Konsa centrally when Mings got injured.
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what an utter embarrassment we are - £120m plus spunked away on this shower of shite.
Yeah, being 1-0 down to the League, European and World Champions who have won every single home game this season. What an embarrassment we are
Jesus Christ.
I take it you are happy with the season
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Well, I’d have taken a non humiliating loss and encouraging performance before the game. But I really feel this Liverpool side will Lose a few now and well regret not having the balls to take something from this.
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I can sense a Reina charge upfield is just around the corner.
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Jota? - nah!!
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Well, I’d have taken a non humiliating loss and encouraging performance before the game. But I really feel this Liverpool side will Lose a few now and well regret not having the balls to take something from this.
A bit like all our post restart games, we have been better at the back but barely look like scoring.
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Mings looks OK.
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2-0
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Hmmmmmm
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Wank
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Oh poop
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One of their league cup kids scores.
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We suffer with deflections more than any other team in world history.
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Not really any big surprise to lose here, just depressing as fuck to think we came here desperately needing something in the first place.
Awful, awful season.
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Shit defending yet again
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Flattering scoreline for Liverpool.
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Is grealish on the pitch?
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Fuck off. 11 useless ****** and a shite, shite manager.
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Mings dropping back to defend the goalline gave him all the space he needed to score.
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Grealish close
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Flattering scoreline for Liverpool.
Indeed.
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Shit defending yet again
Absolutely dreadful. How that kid had that much space on the edge of our 6 yard box baffles me.
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Shit defending yet again
Absolutely dreadful. How that kid had that much space on the edge of our 6 yard box baffles me.
As they broke beyond our midfield for the first time in the game, owing to us pressing higher being 1-0 down.
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They've done just enough. We've not go the ability to change up a gear.
No shame in this match but still no points gained.
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No big surprise there, we couldn’t see out a 0-0 in a million years with our sloppy defence.
We simply have to beat Palace and hope West Ham are at the beach come the last day.
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It’s where Smith fails get to 70 minutes Anfield they bring on fresh legs and score.
We watch it happen.
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Given what most of the last 6 years has been like, this season has been a fucking miracle. I’m just sick of comments like we are an embarrassment and we’ve got a team full of bottlers - some people on here have got very short memories of that’s what they think of this team.
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Can’t knock us for effort. Can knock us for having zero attacking threat. We go go again etc
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A Liverpool side in second gear, and we’re still nowhere near it.
On Thursday, it’s Man U, and they’re not on the beach.
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Jota is like a ten year old girl trying to play proper football.
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Shit defending yet again
Absolutely dreadful. How that kid had that much space on the edge of our 6 yard box baffles me.
As they broke beyond our midfield for the first time in the game, owing to us pressing higher being 1-0 down.
Behave! There were two centre halves between him and the goal and if they'd stepped out to the striker it wouldn't be 2-0.
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I’m going to stick to my opinion...
Last season was too early for us to get promoted. We needed the extra season to rebuild, gain understanding and develop. Sadly, we can’t do that in the Premier League. Coupled that with a dreadful transfer policy, money spunked all up the walls on what is effectively garbage...
If we get relegated again, it will be time to rebuild. Again.
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It’s where Smith fails get to 70 minutes Anfield they bring on fresh legs and score.
We watch it happen.
There's fuck all we could do. We haven't the personnel.
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Jota. *buries head in hands*
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A competent manager would have taken advantage of being where we were before conceding. Smiths inability to change anything during a game is amateurish.
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It was always going to be tough, but there is something to take and believe that we can get something from ManU.
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Shit defending yet again
Absolutely dreadful. How that kid had that much space on the edge of our 6 yard box baffles me.
As they broke beyond our midfield for the first time in the game, owing to us pressing higher being 1-0 down.
Behave! There were two centre halves between him and the goal and if they'd stepped out to the striker it wouldn't be 2-0.
And the ball broke to a midfielder, where Dougie was 30 yards away (look like he had a kick) instead of crowidng the box. Behave?
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Better performance but no cigar.
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Shit defending yet again
Absolutely dreadful. How that kid had that much space on the edge of our 6 yard box baffles me.
As they broke beyond our midfield for the first time in the game, owing to us pressing higher being 1-0 down.
Behave! There were two centre halves between him and the goal and if they'd stepped out to the striker it wouldn't be 2-0.
And the ball broke to a midfielder, where Dougie was 30 yards away (look like he had a kick) instead of crowidng the box. Behave?
Where Luiz was is irrelevant. Who were the centre halves marking?