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Title: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 02, 2020, 01:29:47 PM
First signing of the season for our newly-promoted heroines, Scotland international and will annoy Blose. Good news all round.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/02/chloe-arthur-signs-for-villa-women?g4id=5
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on July 03, 2020, 04:55:51 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/03/seven-new-scholars-sign
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on July 05, 2020, 09:58:51 PM
More to come.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on July 06, 2020, 03:39:59 PM
Cam has signed his first pro-contract.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 08, 2020, 01:52:48 AM
Good news, Leeg.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2020, 01:00:21 PM
Looks like we landed Sil Swinkels. I don’t know who he is either but highly rated kid from the Vitesse academy and Dutch U16 apparently.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 03, 2020, 01:02:07 PM
Good stuff.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 04, 2020, 04:12:43 PM
We are signing Ben Chrisene youngster from Exeter.  Matt Taylor their manager is saying he will go to the very top.  He made his debut in the Carsbao Cup last year when still 15.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: OCD on August 04, 2020, 04:27:41 PM
I'm really interested to see how good the kids will be over the next few years because you get the sense that we're starting to get a really good structure in place.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: rougegorge on August 18, 2020, 02:53:38 PM
The U21s have got Carlisle United, Fleetwood Town and Sunderland in the EFL Trophy group stages.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 19, 2020, 03:11:35 PM
We are signing Ben Chrisene youngster from Exeter.  Matt Taylor their manager is saying he will go to the very top.  He made his debut in the Carsbao Cup last year when still 15.

Now signed.  Like the look of this lad.

Speaking about the fee itself though, president and director of football and external affairs, Julian Tagg praised Aston Villa for their professional approach and fairness during the transfer dealing.

“Whilst the fee is undisclosed, when a possible arbitration fee is considered we are pleased with the valuation,” he said. “Aston Villa have been very professional and fair in their dealings with Exeter City and we as a club would like to acknowledge that.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: FatSam on August 23, 2020, 03:12:58 PM
Looks like we have been linked over the last few weeks by a few sources with Ruben Shakpoke, a striker from Norwich. The academy links seem to have more plausibility somehow, despite the apparently obscure sources. Perhaps the deals are just less complicated at this level? Anyway, there is definitely more ambition being shown by the club now that Harrison is onboard.

https://twitter.com/thesecretscout_/status/1297235344170131457?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: OCD on August 23, 2020, 05:20:57 PM
Looks like we have been linked over the last few weeks by a few sources with Ruben Shakpoke, a striker from Norwich. The academy links seem to have more plausibility somehow, despite the apparently obscure sources. Perhaps the deals are just less complicated at this level? Anyway, there is definitely more ambition being shown by the club now that Harrison is onboard.

https://twitter.com/thesecretscout_/status/1297235344170131457?s=21

Could be useful. Looks like Tammy Abraham in build/height, good feet and has pace.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on August 23, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
Looks like we have been linked over the last few weeks by a few sources with Ruben Shakpoke, a striker from Norwich. The academy links seem to have more plausibility somehow, despite the apparently obscure sources. Perhaps the deals are just less complicated at this level? Anyway, there is definitely more ambition being shown by the club now that Harrison is onboard.

https://twitter.com/thesecretscout_/status/1297235344170131457?s=21

You could also argue that we are now just signing unproven players with potential at a young age at the expense of nurturing and developing the current crop by giving the better ones more opportunities. Hope the League Cup this coming season gives them some room for greater exposure.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Dave P on August 24, 2020, 10:24:44 AM
This sort of long term thinking is alien at most other clubs and is very welcome indeed.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: paul_e on August 24, 2020, 12:25:11 PM
Looks like we have been linked over the last few weeks by a few sources with Ruben Shakpoke, a striker from Norwich. The academy links seem to have more plausibility somehow, despite the apparently obscure sources. Perhaps the deals are just less complicated at this level? Anyway, there is definitely more ambition being shown by the club now that Harrison is onboard.

https://twitter.com/thesecretscout_/status/1297235344170131457?s=21

You could also argue that we are now just signing unproven players with potential at a young age at the expense of nurturing and developing the current crop by giving the better ones more opportunities. Hope the League Cup this coming season gives them some room for greater exposure.

I'd disagree with that. Adding extra quality in the academy is good for the existing players who've been with the club for years. Being the best player in the U10s, U12s, etc. means you're used to being the big fish and too often players like that (Delfouneso, Luke Moore) end up hitting a wall at about 17-18 and never really fulfilling that potential because the gap from where they are to the first team is too big for them. by adding extra quality at that time and letting the players develop together for a year or 2 the hope is that they all get nudged closer to being ready earlier.

The 2nd bit though is why I'd have liked the benches to stay as 9 players (even if we go back to only allowing 3 subs to be made). the extra couple of spots could be a great way to get youngsters around the first team earlier.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: OCD on August 24, 2020, 12:45:38 PM
I would probably go a step further and saying that at least 2 of the subs have to be under 23.

Competition for places has got to be important for development. I think if a young player was the first on the team sheet every week with no competition, they could become complacent and may take things a little for granted. Then have a bit of shock when they realise how different it is in the Premier League. Really you want kids pushing eachother to be better.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: paul_e on August 24, 2020, 01:19:28 PM
I would probably go a step further and saying that at least 2 of the subs have to be under 23.

Competition for places has got to be important for development. I think if a young player was the first on the team sheet every week with no competition, they could become complacent and may take things a little for granted. Then have a bit of shock when they realise how different it is in the Premier League. Really you want kids pushing eachother to be better.

I'd agree with that.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on August 24, 2020, 07:25:39 PM
Clarke joins Yeovil on season long loan.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/08/24/clarke-joins-yeovil
A good start.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: paul_e on August 24, 2020, 07:50:45 PM
Clarke joins Yeovil on season long loan.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/08/24/clarke-joins-yeovil
A good start.

He's better than that, should've been at a league 1 or even a championship club.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on August 24, 2020, 11:39:45 PM
Looks like we have been linked over the last few weeks by a few sources with Ruben Shakpoke, a striker from Norwich. The academy links seem to have more plausibility somehow, despite the apparently obscure sources. Perhaps the deals are just less complicated at this level? Anyway, there is definitely more ambition being shown by the club now that Harrison is onboard.

https://twitter.com/thesecretscout_/status/1297235344170131457?s=21

You could also argue that we are now just signing unproven players with potential at a young age at the expense of nurturing and developing the current crop by giving the better ones more opportunities. Hope the League Cup this coming season gives them some room for greater exposure.

I'd disagree with that. Adding extra quality in the academy is good for the existing players who've been with the club for years. Being the best player in the U10s, U12s, etc. means you're used to being the big fish and too often players like that (Delfouneso, Luke Moore) end up hitting a wall at about 17-18 and never really fulfilling that potential because the gap from where they are to the first team is too big for them. by adding extra quality at that time and letting the players develop together for a year or 2 the hope is that they all get nudged closer to being ready earlier.

The 2nd bit though is why I'd have liked the benches to stay as 9 players (even if we go back to only allowing 3 subs to be made). the extra couple of spots could be a great way to get youngsters around the first team earlier.

I'd tend to agree with that and I don't think I put my point of view across very well after re-reading it. Would be nice to see the better players at that level being given more opportunities as compared to last season. Would love to see another Grealish come through from the start and make it.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on August 24, 2020, 11:40:36 PM
The two stand-outs for me are Archer and Ramsey.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on August 24, 2020, 11:40:57 PM
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: PeterWithe on August 25, 2020, 12:39:44 PM
Looks like we have been linked over the last few weeks by a few sources with Ruben Shakpoke, a striker from Norwich. The academy links seem to have more plausibility somehow, despite the apparently obscure sources. Perhaps the deals are just less complicated at this level? Anyway, there is definitely more ambition being shown by the club now that Harrison is onboard.

https://twitter.com/thesecretscout_/status/1297235344170131457?s=21

He looks a player although the standard of goalkeeping in some if those clips was terrible.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Drummond on August 25, 2020, 01:35:24 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing the U21 in the EFL Trophy, should be interesting.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Mister E on August 25, 2020, 01:50:48 PM
Clarke joins Yeovil on season long loan.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/08/24/clarke-joins-yeovil
A good start.
This doesn't look promising for a kid rated highly by several on here.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: OCD on August 25, 2020, 02:53:34 PM
Grealish went on loan to Notts County. As long as they get game time and he's somewhere where they will be playing a similar style to us.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on August 26, 2020, 09:57:37 PM
https://twitter.com/StratfordTownFC/status/1298707197749342208?s=08

Cam with our goal.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on August 26, 2020, 10:06:20 PM
Usual lack of promotion and coverage of this from Pravda.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Drummond on September 01, 2020, 02:07:50 PM
U21s in action at Sunderland tonight in the EFL Trophy. Does anyone know if it can be watched anywhwere/
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on September 01, 2020, 03:24:18 PM
There is also a match vs Tamworth.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on September 01, 2020, 08:32:45 PM
No coverage or score updates from either game tonight that I can find.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Lsvilla on September 01, 2020, 08:37:46 PM
U21s in action at Sunderland tonight in the EFL Trophy. Does anyone know if it can be watched anywhwere/
I think this is next Tuesday 8/9.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on September 01, 2020, 09:00:58 PM
The match vs Tamworth is definitely on. Cam is playing.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Legion on September 01, 2020, 11:13:53 PM
Won 7-0. Archer played 60 mins and scored 2.
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: OCD on September 02, 2020, 10:49:56 AM
Was it the U23's or was it the first team?
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: Drummond on September 02, 2020, 11:02:58 AM
U21s in action at Sunderland tonight in the EFL Trophy. Does anyone know if it can be watched anywhwere/
I think this is next Tuesday 8/9.

Ah, yes, no wonder I couldn't find anything......!
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: in exile on September 02, 2020, 11:05:40 AM
Was it the U23's or was it the first team?
U23's
Title: Re: Reserves, Academy and Women 2020/21
Post by: OCD on September 02, 2020, 11:07:58 AM
That's encouraging then that the U23's can win so comprehensively against a senior side.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 05, 2020, 08:46:39 PM
First signing of the season for our newly-promoted heroines, Scotland international and will annoy Blose. Good news all round.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/07/02/chloe-arthur-signs-for-villa-women?g4id=5

New thread started for our Women's team. This starting post could not be moved. Hope everything is correct.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 07, 2020, 04:55:55 PM
U23s in action tomorrow.

Delaney FB interview (https://www.facebook.com/101566839887394/posts/3565027660207944/)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 07, 2020, 09:46:00 PM
https://twitter.com/AVFCU23/status/1303067980616667136?s=08

I voted for Cam.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: WilliamStanding on September 07, 2020, 10:44:46 PM
Archer vote all day Long.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 07, 2020, 10:58:46 PM
By a country mile for me. Easily the best of the lot in his position. He is so versatile as well. Two-footed, can play up front on his own, with a strike partner, behind the striker, on the left and on the right. Not all at the same time, though!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 07, 2020, 10:59:28 PM
Surprised not to see Jacob Ramsey as an option, mind. He is equally as special.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 07:47:40 AM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/09/07/2020-21-academy-fixtures-confirmed
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 01:24:37 PM
https://twitter.com/AVFCU23/status/1303295545423917057?s=08

Voted for Cam. Done far more than Vassilev for the U23s.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 04:11:42 PM
https://www.safc.com/news/team-news/2020/september/aston-villa-21s/preview-v-villa
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 06:28:19 PM
https://twitter.com/Phil__Smith/status/1303379494313615365?s=08
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on September 08, 2020, 06:33:54 PM
Carney Chukwuemeka starting tonight
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 08, 2020, 07:04:28 PM
Also both Ramsey brothers and 2 Revans (who I've not heard of before).

Cam on the bench.

For them I know Danny Graham and Grant Leadbitter, plus Flanagan and Maguire. Think they're playing a few youngsters too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on September 08, 2020, 07:16:01 PM
Also both Ramsey brothers and 2 Revans (who I've not heard of before).

Cam on the bench.

For them I know Danny Graham and Grant Leadbitter, plus Flanagan and Maguire. Think they're playing a few youngsters too.

Some proper old journeyman pros in that Sunderland team, as well as my favourite name of a footballer ever - Max Power. It'll be a good test for our youngsters.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on September 08, 2020, 07:21:28 PM
Currently losing 2-0.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
Not surprised to be honest.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: rougegorge on September 08, 2020, 08:05:23 PM
We didn't do well at this competition last season and probably we won't be progressing this year.

I don't know if our youngsters are promising or not but this is a platform for them to impress. It's not a full Sunderland first team that's for sure.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on September 08, 2020, 08:06:20 PM
2-1 now, Vassilev penalty.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on September 08, 2020, 08:10:26 PM
Make that 3-1.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 08:18:55 PM
We didn't do well at this competition last season and probably we won't be progressing this year.

I don't know if our youngsters are promising or not but this is a platform for them to impress. It's not a full Sunderland first team that's for sure.

Too many 16/17 year old players that are just not up to it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 08:35:54 PM
4-1 now. Defensively shocking.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 08:37:05 PM
5-1.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 08:42:12 PM
7.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 08:42:32 PM
All over the place at the back.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: rougegorge on September 08, 2020, 08:55:17 PM
Crikey 8-1!

That's awful whichever way you look at it. Is Delaney still the coach?

I won't be holding out much hope for this crop judging on that performance.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 08, 2020, 08:59:12 PM
8-1. Pitiful. Feel sorry for Delaney. Well done, Smith.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on September 08, 2020, 09:09:47 PM
Worse than it was last season in this competition .Boys against men it appears
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 08, 2020, 09:15:15 PM
Bit of a wake up call for them.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dave P on September 08, 2020, 09:58:47 PM
Every season of Sunderland till I die starts off like this and tails off at the end
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 08, 2020, 10:03:15 PM
Hopefully 4 or 5 of them get loans before the window closes. Sunderland put their first team out for match practice so there was clearly an inbalance but looks like a few of them got stage fright so only way to solve that is give them loan and see if they sink or swim from playing in league 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: WilliamStanding on September 08, 2020, 11:37:51 PM
Barcelona lost 8-2, relax FFS.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 08, 2020, 11:52:56 PM
Hopefully 4 or 5 of them get loans before the window closes. Sunderland put their first team out for match practice so there was clearly an inbalance but looks like a few of them got stage fright so only way to solve that is give them loan and see if they sink or swim from playing in league 1 or 2.

A lot of them are from the U18 squad so they're probably a year too early for loaning out. That was a very young Villa team against a pretty strong Sunderland team and the heads clearly went down.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on September 09, 2020, 01:06:30 AM
Barcelona lost 8-2, relax FFS.

Time to pair up the old and new dream team of Messi and Mungo Bridge.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: in exile on September 09, 2020, 11:37:45 AM
Barcelona lost 8-2, relax FFS.
And I expect your bet came in.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Drummond on September 09, 2020, 11:44:18 AM
I'm surprised there was no Barry involved?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on September 09, 2020, 02:20:41 PM
I'm surprised there was no Barry involved?
Did he not take the penalty?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 09, 2020, 02:40:40 PM
Surely it's no different to Liverpool in the League Cup - a youth team against first-teamers.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 12, 2020, 04:04:58 PM
A pretty unfamiliar U18 team (loads of players that could've been weren't involved) won 2-1 against Leicester earlier to start their season with a win.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 12, 2020, 06:07:41 PM
There was an article in The Athletic about how we've transformed our youth team set-up. I was interested in reading it but I'm not a subscriber.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on September 13, 2020, 12:01:12 AM
Nice to see the U18 beat Leicester today,they more often than not get the better of us at this level
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: danno on September 13, 2020, 08:26:41 PM
There was an article in The Athletic about how we've transformed our youth team set-up. I was interested in reading it but I'm not a subscriber.

Yeah I wanted to read this too, but am too stingy to pay for it. Plus its by Gregg Evans so its bound to be some hatchet job about us kidnapping their staff and forcing them to leave Albion and work for us for better money.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Steve67 on September 13, 2020, 10:23:13 PM
I see George Boateng has returned to Villa as a coach for the u-23's.  Shame he can't still play.  I thought he'd been back a while but there is a news item on Sky Sports News.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 13, 2020, 10:26:07 PM
The story is about him being moved up to working with the Under 23's. He's been a coach for the past year working with younger age groups.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on September 13, 2020, 10:26:30 PM
I see George Boateng has returned to Villa as a coach for the u-23's.  Shame he can't still play.  I thought he'd been back a while but there is a news item on Sky Sports News.

He was with the U18s last season but has moved up to the U23s. There's a nice clip from an interview with him on the club Twitter, I guess the full interview will be on the website.

And yes, wouldn't a George Boateng in his prime fill that extra defensive/holding midfielder position we've been talking about very nicely!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Steve67 on September 13, 2020, 10:28:33 PM
I see George Boateng has returned to Villa as a coach for the u-23's.  Shame he can't still play.  I thought he'd been back a while but there is a news item on Sky Sports News.

He was with the U18s last season but has moved up to the U23s. There's a nice clip from an interview with him on the club Twitter, I guess the full interview will be on the website.

Righto, thanks.  I had a feeling that he had been there a while.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 14, 2020, 01:38:37 PM
U23s playing away to the baggies right now.


https://www.avfc.co.uk/Fixtures/2020-to-2029/2020-2021/English-Premier-League-2-Division-Two/West-Brom-U23-vs-Aston-Villa-U23?matchdetails=1


Just gone 1-0 behind. Some interesting names missing from the team though, Jacob Ramsey, Barry and Kesler all absent so I suspect they may be involved tomorrow.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 14, 2020, 01:47:42 PM
Can't see a line-up.

I think Ramsey will be involved tomorrow, probably on the bench.

Is Barry involved with the U23's or the U18's?

Kesler's an interesting one. If he's involved tomorrow you have to wonder whether Guibert is going to be sold.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 14, 2020, 01:52:21 PM
Yeah, didn't notice the teams were there.

Try this one. (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB800GB800&sxsrf=ALeKk00xGxwCSc5QSZ_lc8yGOOdDi5ZQqQ:1600087805371&q=Aston+Villa+U-23&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgecR4jpVb4OWPe8JSR1gnrTl5jXEvKxdXcEZ-uWteSWZJpZAeFxuUpcIlKMWrn65vaJhumWVqnF2SrMEgxc-FKqT0j8XIZ9elaefY3AQZgGDfrTAHKU0tIS52z2Kf_OTEHMFdGz-8XX7npp2WMBdHSGJFfl5-biVYKQPDB3slPk4g3eBi8NbeFiSixWC1mIVLILggv6ik2DexJDnDvSi_tEBoCzMXT0BiUUlmcmZBYl5JsdBiZqEFzFyCSGIBOYmVqSlCXcxc3EiixPlC6hSTkCqXsn5yfk5OanJJZn6efmJxcWZxCdCE-KLU3My8lNSiYv3EnBwhDS41ZGXZefnlOakp6anxQNtSc4r1MzLTM3KAuERImUsRWWVOUXwx2FtAwdyCVGAQ5xcVC8lySWNXVJKamFssJM0liSxdkJpfkJManw4Kk2IhKS4JZMni_OTk1KJ4iEY5LhkUOYihQONTIZGL5g2ofH5xUUF8KtD5mUlAayAmodsCVgmRs-JPLC7Jz1Moy8zJSVQoNTLOVWnKtFfi4GAQYJFgUOBXikBJG9vOBVGWNpr2rTjExsLBKIDE4lnEKuAIdkUY2BWhukbGAE-fK8PnAgAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjt4v3J1-jrAhVSoXEKHTyNDVAQ6RMwHnoECA0QBQ&biw=1920&bih=937#sie=m;/g/11l4np2mc5;2;/g/11d_2_t2j8;ln;fp;1;;)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 14, 2020, 01:58:44 PM
Cheers.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 14, 2020, 01:59:15 PM
Kesler is nowhere near first team standard.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 14, 2020, 02:05:22 PM
Kesler is nowhere near first team standard.

Maybe not but missed U18 on Sat and U23 today and has been around the first team squad a fair bit.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 14, 2020, 02:51:09 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Clampy on September 14, 2020, 03:14:09 PM
Finished 3-1 to them thanks to two late penalties.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on September 14, 2020, 03:33:22 PM
Sounds like Sandwell had their own referee with them,two pens in last couple of minutes ,one of which was a very harsh handball by all accounts
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 14, 2020, 06:52:23 PM
Just read the match report. It was Wright who missed at the end, not Archer.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 16, 2020, 09:38:45 PM
The main ones to watch this season are Ramsey, Bridge and Archer. All three have the potential to make it. They either need a loan out to gain invaluable experience or some opportunities at first team level in whatever competition to show what they are capable of.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 17, 2020, 05:20:53 PM
Vassilev to Burton Albion for the season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 18, 2020, 06:47:13 PM
U23s vs Norwich this evening.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 18, 2020, 07:30:09 PM
No coverage or updates from Villa.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 18, 2020, 07:32:03 PM
https://twitter.com/NorwichCityAcad?s=08
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 18, 2020, 07:33:43 PM
1-0 to us.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on September 18, 2020, 07:43:18 PM
1-0 to us.

Ramsay.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 18, 2020, 08:13:56 PM
Ramsey.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 18, 2020, 08:16:13 PM
2-0.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 18, 2020, 08:38:59 PM
3-0.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 18, 2020, 08:48:45 PM
Think the kid who got the 3rd is the one we just got from Norwich
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on September 18, 2020, 08:51:08 PM
It's not him.  This one is Philogene-Bidace, can't remember the name of the lad we got from Norwich.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on September 18, 2020, 09:30:54 PM
It's not him.  This one is Philogene-Bidace, can't remember the name of the lad we got from Norwich.
Shakpoke
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 19, 2020, 12:15:11 AM
3-0 (Aaron Ramsey, Dominic Revan and Jaden Philogene-Bidace)

Match Report - https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2020/september/U23s-Aston-Villa-3-0-Norwich-City/

None of the new players were involved.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on September 19, 2020, 11:30:32 AM
Good win for the U23 last night,pity the coverage by the club these days is so poor .I use to love watching the second team until they decided to play at Bodymoor ,now its almost impossible to follow them on line
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 19, 2020, 07:53:50 PM
Under 18s won 1-0 away at Norwich earlier despite 2 red cards.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 19, 2020, 07:55:22 PM
Good win for the U23 last night,pity the coverage by the club these days is so poor .I use to love watching the second team until they decided to play at Bodymoor ,now its almost impossible to follow them on line

It's better than last season but still very poor compared to the coverage provided by other clubs.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on September 19, 2020, 10:19:29 PM
Sounds a impressive win at Norwich today for the u18, Norwich thrashed Sandwell 5-1 last week and according to one of their players on their website were ready to give us some of the same today
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 21, 2020, 03:37:17 PM
https://twitter.com/AVFCWiki/status/1307992025711759360?s=08
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 22, 2020, 06:05:15 PM
In the past two years, the club have recruited some of neighbours West Bromwich Albion’s leading academy brains, set out to corner the local market at junior level and gone on a recruitment drive for talented teenagers, including Lamare Bogarde, pictured top, who had interested Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur, and whose arrival is to be announced soon.

It has been a revolution.

The objective of Villa’s academy is not to produce players who can then be sold on for significant profits in the future. It is for the club; to develop talent for the first team. If in doing that some players are subsequently snapped up by rivals, then it will only be to benefit Villa financially.

Purslow has played a big part in reshaping the academy. He set out to find a framework that would help bring more players through in the future but recognised there would be no quick fix.

“Villa still have some way to go before they can start getting excited about the next batch of youngsters,” one source told The Athletic.

“They haven’t had much to shout about from the academy in recent years but you can see the clear change of direction in the last 12 months or so. They mean business, and other clubs are starting to take note.”

Villa’s planning over recent years has been strategic and deliberate. It wasn’t so long ago that West Brom were recognised as having the best academy in the Midlands, so Villa made it a priority to not only break up what was working so well just a few miles down the road, but also hire their standout staff members.

Mark Harrison ended a 13-year association at The Hawthorns to become academy manager in 2019. The vision for the future appealed and he’s already committed to a long-term plan that is now starting to take shape.

One of the first objectives was simple but rewarding, if executed correctly. Villa’s aim was to start gathering the best talent in the local area by making sure they get hold of the leading players at primary-school age and then monitoring their progress at the club. To a similar end, Villa also wanted to increase their links with inner-city clubs.

Villa also strengthened their coaching staff when Mark Naylor moved across from West Brom last summer too. He has helped to bring through goalkeepers at England youth level in the past and is now working with Villa’s.

There is also a huge recruitment drive underway, which is being led by a former Albion talent spotter, Steve Hopcroft. Villa have targeted players around the ages of 15, 16 and 17 of late.

First through the door was Louie Barry — another one formerly of West Brom — as he returned from a spell with Barcelona for £1.5 million in January.

Striker Ruben Shakpoke, 16, arrived from Norwich City last month in a deal that is understood to involve a significant transfer fee. Defender Sil Swinkels and holding midfielder Bogarde, also both 16, have agreed to join from Vitesse Arnhem and Feyenoord respectively. Official announcements are expected to follow as soon as they receive international clearance.

The capture of Bogarde is particularly impressive considering the other Premier League sides who were interested in him. Ben Chrisene, a 16-year-old from Exeter City who has already been unveiled, went on trial at a host of other clubs including Bayern Munich but chose Villa as his new destination, too.

While Villa have picked out players who they believe can flourish in the future, they’ve also been able to keep hold of those who are already well known to staff at the club.

Carney Chukwuemeka, 16, looked set to leave with a host of other clubs keen, but Villa offered him a lengthy contract and he stuck around.

Jacob Ramsey, 19, is making good progress and may be called upon in the Carabao Cup opener against Burton Albion on Tuesday. He’s from nearby Barr Beacon and has been at the club since the age of seven. If he can continue developing as a player, there finally might be another Villa youngster on the way to replicating the early stages of Grealish’s journey.

It’s 17-year-old Kaine Kesler, from the Smith’s Wood area of Birmingham, who is starting to edge his way towards the top of the pile of potential breakthrough players, though.

Smith rates the rapid right-back highly and even included him in his squad at the back end of Project Restart when Villa drew at Everton in the Premier League. One source, who suggested Kesler is now the standout player of the development group, says: “He looks like he’s got a real chance of featuring for the first team in the future. His speed is frightening and that could set him apart.”

Senior players have been taken back by his blistering pace and his desire to make an impression when called upon. Kesler travelled with the first team for the pre-season camp in Wales and has been with the seniors for the past four months.

The aim this season is to create an identity in the under-23 team, which will largely feature first and second-year scholars. If results in matches don’t go their way, it’s largely because they will be much younger than the opponents they are coming up against. Short-term struggles may bring long-term benefits.

Mark Delaney, an ex-Villa defender, is the current under-23 coach and former team-mate George Boateng has now moved up from the under-18s to be his assistant. Delaney spoke of his pride at seeing some of his young group mix in with the first team this summer.

“Before they left for Wales, we said you need to take every opportunity to learn,” he told Villa’s website. “We encouraged the youngsters to ask the seniors questions but we also said they had to bring their own game into it. We wanted them to make their mark.”

A brand-new building at Bodymoor Heath now houses the academy. They also have a purpose-built stadium, where the development teams play their home games. The facilities are excellent, which also plays a part in attracting youngsters to the club.

A major mistake Villa made in the past was keeping young, talented players at the training ground for too long when they should have been out on loan somewhere, sampling men’s football.

One former player, who has now left the club, told The Athletic: “I wanted to go out on loan a couple of times but the club blocked it. That was the only real regret I had from my time in the academy.”

There has been a new pledge to get the most progressive players in the under-23s integrated into senior football as early as possible and Ramsey moved to Doncaster Rovers earlier in the year, scoring three goals in seven League One appearances before the coronavirus shutdown.

Decisions will be made on which youngsters to let out before the transfer window closes next month. Some will benefit from men’s football, others need more time at Bodymoor Heath.

The key to correct development is understanding each player’s individual needs. Villa seem to be managing that quite well now and they have laid the early seeds for what could be a blossoming group in years to come.

Source - The Athletic.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: danno on September 22, 2020, 07:08:56 PM
Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 22, 2020, 08:31:31 PM
Yeah, many thanks OCD. Promising stuff.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 22, 2020, 09:25:35 PM
Sort of article I like to read so thought others would too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on September 22, 2020, 11:46:04 PM
Thanks for posting OCD
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on September 23, 2020, 01:45:11 AM
Based on what it says about Kesler, it does ring true about Guilbert's days being numbered.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 23, 2020, 12:29:45 PM
It would be asking a lot for someone to go from playing in the U23's to Premier League games. You would expect them to go out on loan first.

In the comments section to that article, the Sunderland game was discussed. They said Sunderland played a very strong side and their winger tore Kesler apart.

They also said that it was the physicality we struggled with. They said something about their main striker being about 14 stone and our 17/18 year old's couldn't cope. A lot of their goals came from set pieces and it was only really in the last 20 minutes when we collapsed.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 23, 2020, 12:36:12 PM
Kesler is not as good as he thinks he is.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Luke8 on September 23, 2020, 01:46:01 PM
He’s also not long turned seventeen. I don’t know how good he is, but unless he is absolutely exceptional I don’t imagine we will see him near the first team for at least 18 months.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 25, 2020, 06:20:35 PM
U23s are home to reading tonight, kicked off at 6.

Starting Lineup
1 Onodi

2 Kesler
5 Bridge
4 D Revan
3 S Revan

8 Chukwuemeka
10 Aaron Ramsey
6 Brunt

7 Wright
11 Philogene-Bidace
9 Archer

Substitutes
14 Campton-Sturridge
12 Barry
16 Guy
13 Marshall
15 Farr

Good to see Barry fit and on the bench. Official site has some basic coverage - https://www.avfc.co.uk/match/u23/2020-21/g2141152
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2020, 06:26:33 PM
Thanks for that. That so-called coverage is woeful. I'll see if Reading have anything better.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2020, 06:31:08 PM
No luck there either.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2020, 06:34:27 PM
https://www.flashscore.com/match/6cDktjAD/#lineups;1
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 25, 2020, 06:39:23 PM
https://www.flashscore.com/match/6cDktjAD/#lineups;1



Reminds me of an old football computer game on the Commodore 64 ,  football director ,  spent hours and hours on it,
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 25, 2020, 06:43:35 PM
google version seems to be the best - https://www.google.com/search?q=aston+villa+u23&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB800GB800&oq=aston+villa+u23#sie=m;/g/11hnxfsv3f;2;/g/11d_2_t2j8;dt;fp;1;;
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on September 25, 2020, 06:45:06 PM
Are those Revan defenders related ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on September 25, 2020, 06:46:37 PM
Are those Revan defenders related ?

Yep, brothers, Seb at left back is the younger of the 2, just up from the U18s this season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 25, 2020, 06:53:07 PM
I wonder when we'll see these new lads and at what level.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on September 25, 2020, 08:01:04 PM
Villa Res 1 Reading Res 2 at full time, Reading seem to be our bogey team at reserve/youth team level .
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 25, 2020, 08:12:10 PM
First Reading goal was scored by Augustus McGiff
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2020, 08:48:52 PM
Archer with ours.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2020, 08:51:21 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2020/september/U23s-Aston-Villa-1-2-Reading/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 25, 2020, 09:14:27 PM
Is Sturridge any relation to Dean and Daniel?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2020, 09:15:14 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 25, 2020, 09:19:53 PM
Hopefully he's got the ability of Daniel but able to play many more games.

Looking at Dean Sturridge's profile, he didn't play many games in his career so hopefully not a family trait.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on September 25, 2020, 10:00:23 PM
I see we have loaned Sinisalo to Ayr United on a season loan
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on September 26, 2020, 12:50:48 AM
I'm loving all these weird and wonderful surnames, half of them sound like medieval warriors.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on September 26, 2020, 07:23:32 AM
I didn’t realise Sinisalo was so highly rated.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithe on September 26, 2020, 08:22:37 AM
I'm loving all these weird and wonderful surnames, half of them sound like medieval warriors.

Me too, Augustus McGiff sounds like a Dickensian Barrister.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 26, 2020, 01:43:37 PM
Villa Babbies gone from behind to ahead, with 2 goals in 3 minutes. The second by new signing Bogarde.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 26, 2020, 01:46:39 PM
I didn’t realise Sinisalo was so highly rated.

Probably safer not to p!ss off his cartel.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 26, 2020, 01:50:10 PM
Won 3-1, not sure of 3rd goal scorer.

Brad Young scored the 1st from the penalty spot.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on September 26, 2020, 02:02:05 PM
Won 3-1, not sure of 3rd goal scorer.

Brad Young scored the 1st from the penalty spot.


Jay-Har, they're currently sitting at the top of the league on nine points.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 26, 2020, 11:18:07 PM
Villa Babbies gone from behind to ahead, with 2 goals in 3 minutes. The second by new signing Bogarde.

It's good to know he's signed - that one had gone quiet. 
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on September 29, 2020, 06:07:47 PM
I see we have added to the goalkeepers collection club today.  Oliweir Zych from Zaglebie Lubin in Poland, no idea of is age.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 29, 2020, 10:56:47 PM
He's recently sixteen, so by the time he is old enough to count as squad member, he will have accrued enough years to count as "home grown".
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on September 29, 2020, 11:01:54 PM
No. Archer, Ramsey and Bridge are 'home grown'. They have been at the Academy for years. Vassilev, Barry, Zych and many others have been bought in. That's all Harrison is interested in. The ones purchased since he was appointed.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 29, 2020, 11:04:28 PM
I was talking about counting as home grown for the purposes of meeting Premier League squad requirements. The rule is you have to be trained at a club in England (or Wales) for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 21.

They will all count as home grown, even Vassilev.

If we had signed a 19 year old he wouldn't be able to become home grown, that's why I mentioned it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 30, 2020, 10:52:38 PM
Looks like we may be signing another young Arab.
https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/exclusive-highly-rated-young-dundee-united-defender-kerr-smith-to-join-aston-villa/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on October 02, 2020, 02:59:41 PM
i have just read we have let Cameron Archer go on loan to Solihull Moors until January .It certainly is all change at Youth level
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on October 02, 2020, 03:00:44 PM
He gets first team football (at last) and stays relatively local.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on October 02, 2020, 07:27:44 PM
U23s vs Crystal Palace (A) this evening.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on October 02, 2020, 07:56:27 PM
Onodi
Revan
Walker
Bridge
Kesler
Aaron Ramsey
Brunt
Chukwuemeka
Barry
Campton-Sturridge
Wright

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on October 02, 2020, 08:03:02 PM
Scoreless at half-time.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 02, 2020, 08:18:14 PM
Apparently it's available to stream for £3 on the palace website. charging for a stream of the U23s seems particularly scummy.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on October 02, 2020, 08:56:30 PM
0-1 wright 92 mins
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 02, 2020, 08:57:02 PM
Nice time to score, fulltime now as well
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Luke8 on October 02, 2020, 08:59:00 PM
Apparently it's available to stream for £3 on the palace website. charging for a stream of the U23s seems particularly scummy.

Whereas the Villa website approach is that it just doesn’t exist

Either way, we nicked a last minute winner through Tyreik Wright.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Luke8 on October 02, 2020, 09:05:15 PM
Also, various England call ups within the  academy for the upcoming fixtures:
Kaine Kesler called up to the U19s
Seb Revan, Carney Chukwumeka, Aaron Ramsey and Louie Barry all with the U18s.

Jacob Ramsey is in the U20 squad as well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: AV82EC on October 03, 2020, 08:40:45 AM
Can someone tell the hard of thinking like me how many Ramsey’s and Archers we’ve got? I don’t pay much attention to the academy and youth stuff but with both Archer and Ramsey having had 1st team opps I’d like to ensure I know who’s who!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Luke8 on October 03, 2020, 08:54:17 AM
Can someone tell the hard of thinking like me how many Ramsey’s and Archers we’ve got? I don’t pay much attention to the academy and youth stuff but with both Archer and Ramsey having had 1st team opps I’d like to ensure I know who’s who!

There are three Ramsey brother within the academy. Jacob, who is breaking into the first team, Aaron, who is with the U23s and a younger brother with the U12s, I believe.

Just the one Archer with us as far as I’m aware. Cameron, who has just gone out on loan.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: AV82EC on October 03, 2020, 08:55:18 AM
Can someone tell the hard of thinking like me how many Ramsey’s and Archers we’ve got? I don’t pay much attention to the academy and youth stuff but with both Archer and Ramsey having had 1st team opps I’d like to ensure I know who’s who!

There are three Ramsey brother within the academy. Jacob, who is breaking into the first team, Aaron, who is with the U23s and a younger brother with the U12s, I believe.

Just the one Archer with us as far as I’m aware. Cameron, who has just gone out on loan.

Thank you. I thought there were more Archers but think they may be with other clubs.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Luke8 on October 03, 2020, 09:09:06 AM
No worries. Yeah, he does have a brother who plays professionally as well. Was at Bury, but I’m not sure where he is now. Legion will be able to tell you more I’d imagine.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on October 03, 2020, 11:07:03 AM
Jordan is at Boston United. Lewis was released by our Academy and is now abroad.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 03, 2020, 11:36:30 AM
Beating (Fuck The) Albion 1-0 in the under-18s.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 03, 2020, 11:50:10 AM
U18s are leading 1-0 away at the baggies, just got to half time.

The goal was from Young and it sounds like we're well on top.

Bogarde, swinkels and chrisene all in the defence.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 03, 2020, 01:08:55 PM
Finished 2-1 to the goodies and 4 wins out of 4 now
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on October 03, 2020, 06:39:05 PM
Good to see the U18 beat Sandwell Town to make it four wins on the bounce and stay on top of the league I see Young scored again,seems to know where the net is .The winner was a own goal
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on October 04, 2020, 09:47:28 AM
I was at the U18 game yesterday and we were very good. much stronger than them.
Our first goal came from a mistake from their CB but was well finished. We went 0-2 early in the second half through an OG from a their CB again. WBA finished strongly, but we should have won about 1-6.
Swikels and Chrisene played well but I liked the look of Paul Appiah.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on October 04, 2020, 04:41:58 PM
Jordan is at Boston United. Lewis was released by our Academy and is now abroad.

Lewis is striker for Coventry United F.C.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on October 06, 2020, 08:06:36 PM
Playing in the EFL Trophy with our young kids doesn’t seem to be working. Would be interested in the thoughts of those who follow the age group teams more closely than me on the strategy here.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: rougegorge on October 06, 2020, 08:19:35 PM
You're right there. Another drubbing on the cards and with the Ramseys, Barry and a few other 'promising' youngsters playing, I thought they would fare better.

It's not nearly Fleetwood's first team - 10 changes from their side that lost on Saturday.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on October 06, 2020, 08:27:55 PM
I'm a bit out of the loop at the moment due to Cameron being on a short term loan at Solihull Moors until January but I'll give you my honest opinion. Plus that is all it is. My opinion. For me, only Bridge in defence, Ramsey (J) in midfield and Archer (striker) have what it takes to develop in to players of the future. Vassilev as well up to a point but he has not shown strength in any one area and can be a bit hit and miss. Barry is another exciting prospect but is very young and largely unproven with the U18s, U21s or U23s. Ramsey (A) is also good but young. Kesler is OK but has a vastly inflated opinion of his own ability. The rest are just not up to it. For the EFL Trophy it is definitely a case of our boys against the other teams men.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on October 06, 2020, 09:12:34 PM
I'm a bit out of the loop at the moment due to Cameron being on a short term loan at Solihull Moors until January but I'll give you my honest opinion. Plus that is all it is. My opinion. For me, only Bridge in defence, Ramsey (J) in midfield and Archer (striker) have what it takes to develop in to players of the future. Vassilev as well up to a point but he has not shown strength in any one area and can be a bit hit and miss. Barry is another exciting prospect but is very young and largely unproven with the U18s, U21s or U23s. Ramsey (A) is also good but young. Kesler is OK but has a vastly inflated opinion of his own ability. The rest are just not up to it. For the EFL Trophy it is definitely a case of our boys against the other teams men.
Thanks. Interesting stuff. I see Cameron is starting tonight for the Moors. Will follow with interest.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on October 06, 2020, 09:28:48 PM
All too often kids have been superior in their age group and then maybe becoming complacent and their development stunted. The more experience they can get of senior football, the better for me. Perhaps it will bring them down to Earth and realise how much work they actually have to do to even have a professional career in football.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on October 06, 2020, 09:45:48 PM
Agreed, which is why I am pleased that Cam has gone out on a short-term loan to get regular first team football. He and his family are very down to earth and realistic about things plus he has worked so hard over lockdown to keep in shape.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 06, 2020, 09:51:13 PM
I guess it's tough to judge even for the experts in the game. Look at Ben Woodburn at Liverpool, hailed as the next big thing and played for Wales at 17, now on loan at Oxford Utd and has had a couple of bad foot injuries.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on October 06, 2020, 09:52:52 PM
Never heard of him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 06, 2020, 09:57:02 PM
I guess it's tough to judge even for the experts in the game. Look at Ben Woodburn at Liverpool, hailed as the next big thing and played for Wales at 17, now on loan at Oxford Utd and has had a couple of bad foot injuries.

I'd forgotten about him, yep he was touted as going to be something special, and in fairness the odds bits I saw of him he did look like he'd make it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on October 06, 2020, 09:57:45 PM
I've genuinely never heard of him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 06, 2020, 09:57:57 PM
I guess it's tough to judge even for the experts in the game. Look at Ben Woodburn at Liverpool, hailed as the next big thing and played for Wales at 17, now on loan at Oxford Utd and has had a couple of bad foot injuries.

I'd forgotten about him, yep he was touted as going to be something special, and in fairness the odds bits I saw of him he did look like he'd make it.

There are highly-rated young players who make even bigger falls. Dan Crowley, for example.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: robleflaneur on October 06, 2020, 11:21:41 PM
Mike Calvin wrote an excellent book about football scouts",The Nowhere Men,"I think it was called.It featured scouts keeping up to date on Gary Gardner's progress in Villa's  youth games and how Jude Bellingham was going to be a superstar.
What has always baffled me is how many,in my day,ex England schoolboy and youth internationals failed to make the grade.Somebody published a list of our youngest debutants and a good percentage of them failed to have a career with us.Yet there was a time  in the 70s and 80s when England no.9s ,Regis,Mariner and Birtles had played at non league level.Withe had played for Barrow (?) and the Blues.
'The Guardian' publishes a 'Young Generation'  , a yearly list of the best talent from Premier League clubs.Again for the supposed best talent,the casualty rate is high.The career trajectory of major European nations' footballers seem ,to my limited knowledge ,to be more straight forward,playing for the national team at various age groups and then playing in elite football.
We seem to be copying that with Southgate picking previous u21s such as the talented Mason Mount.Is/was it a difference in coaching,assessment of players,a
blindness to physical development in young players ,such as Phil Jones being regarded as a great player ?


Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 07, 2020, 12:09:57 AM
I think you have to remember that most of the team we're playing in the U23s right now are technically still U18 players, previously we'd have had 6-7 20-23 year olds in the team and the U18 would slowly replace them. It's a completely intended change and 4-5 years at that age is a huge gap so I think it's to make them experience that big step in physicality and quality earlier so when the next one comes between U23 and seniors it's less of a shock, particularly if there's a season of L2-championship football in there as well.

To add to Legions list Chukwuemeka and philgene-bidace have something about them as well, and then there's all the new lads that have come in this summer. I've been given another name as well but I can't remember it right now, lad in the U15s who plays on the wing but will probably end up as a midfielder, apparently he's a bit special.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: fredm on October 07, 2020, 11:53:14 AM
I think whilst the lads need and learn from playing in games like last night, to put the whole team in against men does not particularly help.  They need two or three older heads alongside them to give them both the guidance and, if necessary, physical application.  Now the "second string" are out of the league cup there was nothing to stop some of them being used to help out the youngsters.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Risso on October 07, 2020, 12:02:48 PM
I guess it's tough to judge even for the experts in the game. Look at Ben Woodburn at Liverpool, hailed as the next big thing and played for Wales at 17, now on loan at Oxford Utd and has had a couple of bad foot injuries.

I'd forgotten about him, yep he was touted as going to be something special, and in fairness the odds bits I saw of him he did look like he'd make it.

There are highly-rated young players who make even bigger falls. Dan Crowley, for example.

Michael Johnson at Man City. Still only 32.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 17, 2020, 01:22:50 PM
U18s  are leading 1-0 away at spurs. Bogarde with the goal.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on October 17, 2020, 02:02:15 PM
Won 2-0 but had Swinkels sent off, straight red.  Abldeen-Goodridge with the second.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 17, 2020, 02:02:31 PM
Babbies won two-nil 🙂
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Clampy on October 19, 2020, 01:45:29 PM
Under 23's beating Wolves at the moment. Live on Wolves TV on you tube if anyone wants to watch it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 19, 2020, 01:48:39 PM
Under 23's beating Wolves at the moment. Live on Wolves TV on you tube if anyone wants to watch it.

Aaron Ramsey with the goal a few minutes before half time.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on October 19, 2020, 01:55:39 PM
You would think Jacob would be playing since he wasn't involved last night.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 19, 2020, 02:02:12 PM
Under 23's beating Wolves at the moment. Live on Wolves TV on you tube if anyone wants to watch it.

Aaron Ramsey with the goal a few minutes before half time.

I wonder if he has the deathly powers of his namesake.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithe on October 19, 2020, 02:04:25 PM
Left back looks decent
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 19, 2020, 02:19:49 PM
Quite a few look like good players, DJ Sturridge up front has a good turn of pace.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithe on October 19, 2020, 02:26:13 PM
Keepers distribution leaves a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 19, 2020, 02:30:00 PM
They equallised but Barry has just put us back in front with a lovely goal.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 19, 2020, 02:32:35 PM
Just watching Barry and thinking he  overdribbles going onto his right, then he goes on his left and scores.Nice goal.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 19, 2020, 02:38:27 PM
Another for Barry, Wolves keeper was poor but was good build up.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithe on October 19, 2020, 02:39:01 PM
Another for Barry. 1:3

lovely goal. Again.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 19, 2020, 02:43:51 PM
We look a good unit
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 19, 2020, 02:47:46 PM
I really like the look of Philogene-Bidace (the 14), he's got a lovely fluid running style and low centre of balance. He needs to work on his end product but there's something there.

I also think all of the back 4 look decent, I remember seeing Dom Revan a few years back and thinking he looked solid but really awkward on the ball but he's much more cultured now.


Overall the way we press seems to have been adopted straight from the first team, which is fantastic to see.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithe on October 19, 2020, 03:00:56 PM
 There was a lot of good dribbling and attacking play but I thought the no8 stood out as having good positional disclipline, he knitted things together well and used the ball calmly.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 19, 2020, 03:06:18 PM
There was a lot of good dribbling and attacking play but I thought the no8 stood out as having good positional disclipline, he knitted things together well and used the ball calmly.

That's Chukwuemeka who is incredibly highly rated, he's looked as good as that every time I've seen him (which is only 3-4 games to be fair). I thought the 6 alongside him (who I don't remember seeing before) looked good as well, between them they did a lot of the same work that Luiz and McGinn do for the firsts, just without the massive arse.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 19, 2020, 03:09:41 PM
Bazza’s goal to make it 2-1

https://twitter.com/avfcchats/status/1318184143910567936?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithe on October 19, 2020, 03:19:37 PM
Did anyone pay attention to the comments section, I know I shouldnt, there was a Coventry fan trying desperately to get some attention. On a Villa v Wolves u23 game thread. Mind boggles.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on October 19, 2020, 04:00:44 PM
Did anyone pay attention to the comments section, I know I shouldnt, there was a Coventry fan trying desperately to get some attention. On a Villa v Wolves u23 game thread. Mind boggles.

first thing I did was hide that, there's nothing worse than the comments section of a live stream on youtube, it makes trumps twitter feed look intellectual.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 21, 2020, 10:53:51 PM
Carney Chukwuemeka has signed his first professional contract with Villa

(https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1318823737525940226/NVbKOMdP?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: stevo_st on October 21, 2020, 11:03:48 PM
Was he wearing the no.8 shirt in the recent u23 game against Wolves?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 21, 2020, 11:07:12 PM
Was he wearing the no.8 shirt in the recent u23 game against Wolves?

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1318830061496258561
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on October 22, 2020, 12:53:16 PM
The way he runs with the ball makes me think of Tony Daley.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on October 24, 2020, 10:13:00 PM
Just to top off a awful weekend the U18 lost their unbeaten record 3 0 to Fulham
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on October 25, 2020, 01:00:22 PM
You're going to learn more from a defeat, at any level.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on October 25, 2020, 02:39:06 PM
You'd hope players, coaches and managers are going to learn more from a defeat, at any level.
Just fixed that for you, OCD  :D
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on October 25, 2020, 06:13:02 PM
Well, yes :)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on November 07, 2020, 08:56:31 PM
Fair play to the U18 against Southampton this afternoon Went into stoppage losing 3 1 but managed to score twice in four minutes to end up 3-3
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on November 09, 2020, 02:03:16 PM
The U23s are away at Burnley this afternoon with Heaton getting a game, just kicked off.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmYpDeMXYAE53iR?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on November 09, 2020, 02:16:55 PM
leading 1-0 Philogene-Bidace with the goal.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: adrenachrome on November 09, 2020, 03:11:54 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1323232498961272832/SQSrgAKn_bigger.jpg)Aston Villa@AVFCOfficial·10m

Jaden Philogene-Bidace put us ahead with a superb lob before Burnley hit back on the stroke of half-time. #PL2 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/PL2?src=hashtag_click)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on November 09, 2020, 03:36:13 PM
2-1 now, Aaron Ramsey with our 2nd
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on November 09, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
Finished 2-2 they got a very late equaliser which means they've scored near the end of each half.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on November 09, 2020, 05:50:21 PM
Ironic that Heaton makes a return against the same opposition that did him in.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 10, 2020, 01:23:19 AM
Rather harsh, as no Burnley player was involved in the incident where Tom got injured.

I can't say the same about Wesley!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on November 10, 2020, 11:21:17 AM
Yeah, fair point. I had forgotten how Heaton did his tbh. I remember the Wesley one.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: stevo_st on November 17, 2020, 10:26:21 PM
U21s got knocked out of the Papa John's Trophy tonight..... Dough!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on November 21, 2020, 02:03:03 PM
Great start to the weekend,U18 have just won at Chelsea to remain top of the league  The goal machine Brad Young got a couple  Well done you young lions
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 21, 2020, 02:35:26 PM
Seven goals for him now. One to keep an eye on?

And did we ever get any reason why the club Twitter pays no attention to these games?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 21, 2020, 02:42:49 PM
Oh and we've been drawn away to Reading in the Youth Cup. Given the small crowds these matches usually attract, is there a chance fans could be allowed to attend?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 21, 2020, 08:46:59 PM
I doubt it!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on November 23, 2020, 09:20:19 PM
Good 2-0 win for the U23 at Stoke tonight Well taken goals from Philogene -Bidace and Barry were good enough to see off Stoke .Villa dominated most of the game after the Stoke Keeper received a red card and should have scored more but 2-0 will do nicely
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 24, 2020, 12:53:01 AM
I've heard a lot of good things about Jaden P-B. Has anyone seen him play?

He's only just seventeen, isn't he, but already in the U23s and doing well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on November 24, 2020, 01:27:14 AM
Was Keinan there? He doesn't make the match day 18 at the moment
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: in exile on November 24, 2020, 10:43:46 AM
Good 2-0 win for the U23 at Stoke tonight Well taken goals from Philogene -Bidace and Barry were good enough to see off Stoke .Villa dominated most of the game after the Stoke Keeper received a red card and should have scored more but 2-0 will do nicely
Any idea if Heaton had much to do?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on November 24, 2020, 11:08:34 AM
Was Keinan there? He doesn't make the match day 18 at the moment

I assume he's injured otherwise I would expect him to be on the bench. They've purposely packed the U23's with mostly 18 year-olds though.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on November 24, 2020, 04:12:56 PM
Heaton did not have much to do  ,in fact i can only remember him having  to make a couple of tame efforts throughout the whole match .The sending off of the Stoke  keeper after  around ten minutes ensured Villa had most of the ball and should really have had more goals
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 08, 2020, 08:07:01 PM
New Aston Villa Inner City Football Academy as part of the Witton Road development. Seems a superb idea to continue to capture young local talent.

https://twitter.com/TDBbirmingham/status/1336359587268726785?s=20
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: BC Villain on December 08, 2020, 09:42:38 PM
New Aston Villa Inner City Football Academy as part of the Witton Road development. Seems a superb idea to continue to capture young local talent.

https://twitter.com/TDBbirmingham/status/1336359587268726785?s=20

Very good move.  Big city like Birmingham will have plenty of young talent to mine, but we probably miss out on as they're unable to get to Bodymoor.

Another very clever move from NSWE
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on December 08, 2020, 09:45:42 PM
Transport from schools is (or at least was) provided by the club.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on December 08, 2020, 09:54:26 PM
Transport from schools is (or at least was) provided by the club.

Still is unless it's changed in the last few weeks. Still better to have something more central to replace stumps though (on that topic has it actually closed yet).
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 08, 2020, 09:57:31 PM
I know they have ruined my weekends, crushed my spirit, broken my heart. But I really do love this club. I was a kid who grew up and went to school in both Aston and Erdington. I know how much this will be appreciated by the local kids and you know there are children who don’t get noticed. Also my old mate Mark Harrison is overseeing this. He knows the area as well as I do as went to KEGS Aston together. He will play a big part in our future by developing talent. And to think he was and probably still is a nose.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on December 08, 2020, 10:13:40 PM
Transport from schools is (or at least was) provided by the club.

Still is unless it's changed in the last few weeks. Still better to have something more central to replace stumps though (on that topic has it actually closed yet).

The building formerly known as Stumps is long gone. Renamed The Academy years ago. Fond memories of playing indoor cricket then 5-a-side football there.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on December 08, 2020, 10:17:42 PM
I think the last time I played at Stumps was before the last game of the old Holte End.

I hope they don't stop there and have plans for more academies. I would love for us to become as well known for youth development as clubs like Ajax.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on December 09, 2020, 12:02:52 AM
Transport from schools is (or at least was) provided by the club.

Still is unless it's changed in the last few weeks. Still better to have something more central to replace stumps though (on that topic has it actually closed yet).

The building formerly known as Stumps is long gone. Renamed The Academy years ago. Fond memories of playing indoor cricket then 5-a-side football there.

Oh i know, I meant the academy that they'd put there, the land was on the plans for the new store and offices so it'll be knocked down at some point, was just wondering if it might last until this new facility is up or not.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on December 10, 2020, 08:46:26 PM
https://www.facebook.com/271147609556/posts/10158688248349557/?sfnsn=scwspmo
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on December 11, 2020, 09:06:44 PM
U-18s scrape past Reading in the FA Youth Cup

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1337501909125574663?s=19
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 11, 2020, 10:47:02 PM
Louie Baz is going to be very good indeed.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Gareth on December 12, 2020, 12:36:21 AM
Enjoyed that game - hardly rock n roll for a Friday night watching an FA Youth Cup game streamed on YouTube with no commentary :-)

Was impressed with Kessler and Chukuwumena who have both impressed whenever have seen them play.

Louis Barry is obviously a super talent but in this game he was pretty greedy & wasteful for me, the greedy side is not always a bad thing but at 3-1 he had a couple of chances where squaring it to #9 was pretty nailed on goal but took the more difficult shot on.  Can see him maybe getting a couple of cameos on bench later in season but wouldn’t expect to see him out there until next pre-season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: adrenachrome on December 13, 2020, 01:24:30 PM
PL2 game at Leeds currently showing on their Youtube Channel.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on December 18, 2020, 03:42:37 PM
U23s home to middlesbrough, 1-1 with about 10 minutes to go. Another for Barry.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 05, 2021, 12:51:58 PM
Interesting to read that we've moved Chrisene into a left back and he's been promoted from the U18's to the U23's in that position.

Kesler and Chukwuemeka being spoken about as 2 expected to break through, as well as Barry.

Philogene-Bidace hasn't signed a contract yet and has been linked with Leipzig.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on January 05, 2021, 01:23:51 PM
Archer is now on loan at Solihull Moors for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on January 05, 2021, 03:45:40 PM
Interesting to read that we've moved Chrisene into a left back and he's been promoted from the U18's to the U23's in that position.

Kesler and Chukwuemeka being spoken about as 2 expected to break through, as well as Barry.

Philogene-Bidace hasn't signed a contract yet and has been linked with Leipzig.

I'm glad they're trying to find a solution at left back because after Targett the option right down to U16s haven't been great for a few years.

Philogene-Bidace leaving for a tiny development fee would be a blow, he looks a good prospect for me.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Gareth on January 05, 2021, 03:52:52 PM
Interesting to read that we've moved Chrisene into a left back and he's been promoted from the U18's to the U23's in that position.

Kesler and Chukwuemeka being spoken about as 2 expected to break through, as well as Barry.

Philogene-Bidace hasn't signed a contract yet and has been linked with Leipzig.

They are the most ones who have stood out in the games that other clubs have live streamed before Christmas.  Kessler may well be the main back up to Cash next season if Guilbert is sold & Elmo released in summer.  Wouldn’t be averse to one or two of them getting a bench seat betw now & end of season now we have 9 subs
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 05, 2021, 04:21:31 PM
Hopefully Philogene-Bidace goes onto sign a new contract.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 07, 2021, 07:31:10 PM
First off, I assume he's a close relative to our Chukwuemeka and secondly, I wonder if we're the Premier League club that's in for him?

https://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/12181501/caleb-chukwuemeka-club-brugge-interested-in-northampton-town-teenager
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 07, 2021, 07:43:02 PM
It's his brother.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 07, 2021, 09:54:06 PM
I assumed it probably would be. Interesting to see if they add to the Ramsey brothers.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on January 07, 2021, 11:56:39 PM
If it is us I'd hope the plan is loan him straight back for a while, I don't like the idea of taking a player from a small club like that on the cheap not long after they've broken through, especially if it's to stick him in the reserves. See what happened to Bedeau for example.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Risso on January 08, 2021, 12:31:59 AM
Perhaps it is us after my in depth scouting report last year!


He's quick
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 08, 2021, 11:14:26 AM
If it is us I'd hope the plan is loan him straight back for a while, I don't like the idea of taking a player from a small club like that on the cheap not long after they've broken through, especially if it's to stick him in the reserves. See what happened to Bedeau for example.

Signing him and loaning him straight back would be a no-brainer for me and would in similar circumstances.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Drummond on January 08, 2021, 11:18:33 AM
Shame we haven't got Archer still for tonight.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on January 08, 2021, 11:34:26 AM
Shame we haven't got Archer still for tonight.
I think he would be cup-tied anyway.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on January 08, 2021, 11:37:52 AM
He would have been.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 09, 2021, 01:20:55 PM
Of the kids that I wasn't previously aware of, I thought Sylla, Rowe and Onodi looked good. Brad Young when he came off the bench too.

Of the kids that I was aware of, Barry, Bridge and Kaine-Kesler looked good.

Looked really well organised and there seems to be plenty of strength in depth, especially considering there were a number not involved (mostly ones with very good reputations like Aaron Ramsey, Clarke, Chukwuemba, Philogene-Bidace and Archer). Not including Jacob Ramsey either.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Risso on January 11, 2021, 09:40:13 AM
I'd be surprised if at least 2-3 of those lads didn't make the grade with us.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on January 11, 2021, 01:04:32 PM
Its just too early to tell. Our class of 2002 looked the dogs bollocks and beat an Everton side with Rooney yet apart from Steve Davis, the only others to have sustainable careers in the top two divisions were Ridgewell and Peter Whitts, God rest him.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on January 11, 2021, 01:53:20 PM
Its just too early to tell. Our class of 2002 looked the dogs bollocks and beat an Everton side with Rooney yet apart from Steve Davis, the only others to have sustainable careers in the top two divisions were Ridgewell and Peter Whitts, God rest him.

That's a bit unfair, Luke Moore played nearly 150 premier league games and Henderson was a full Ireland international before having to retire from injury at the age where goalkeepers are generally becoming first choice. That's 5 players who had good careers (or missed out through injury), I doubt there's many FA youth cup winning sides in the last 20 years that have done much better than that.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on January 11, 2021, 11:52:08 PM
I loved Luke and willed him on for a long time but he faded very quickly and was after leaving us was a bit part player at teams fighting relegation or in the Championship. The vast majority of his PL starts were with us and that was less than 40.

Henderson, being a fellow Irish man, was another I was hoping would make it for us but again he didn't carve out a PL career with us or anyone else.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: LukeJames on January 12, 2021, 12:04:22 AM
Of the kids that I wasn't previously aware of, I thought Sylla, Rowe and Onodi looked good. Brad Young when he came off the bench too.

Probably going to sound harsh here as he made a few great saves, especially the double in the first half from Fabinho/Salah but Onodi look a bit dodgy too me. The 1st and 3rd goals, I think he dived about a week too late and there was a dissalowed goal that he fumbled.

Like I say, probably a bit to harsh as we have been spoiled with an excellent GK this year and he was playing against one of the best teams of this Century so far but thats the feelings I got from watching it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 12, 2021, 12:09:21 AM
Ridiculously harsh. And he didn't "fumble" the disallowed goal, it was kicked out of his hands. That's why it was disallowed!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on January 12, 2021, 12:21:23 AM
I think he was a little fortunate, he had his hands on top of the ball but didn't have a firm grip.
But I dug him from the moment I saw his mop-top and what I was hoping was a pencil perched on his ear. A real throwback this fella.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 12, 2021, 01:00:20 AM
I think he was a little fortunate, he had his hands on top of the ball but didn't have a firm grip.
But I dug him from the moment I saw his mop-top and what I was hoping was a pencil perched on his ear. A real throwback this fella.

Two hands on the ball is a foul.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: LukeJames on January 12, 2021, 02:42:24 AM
Ridiculously harsh. And he didn't "fumble" the disallowed goal, it was kicked out of his hands. That's why it was disallowed!

The fumbled part was before he had his hands on the ball but I've just watched it back and didnt realise the initial shot was from so close, I had it in my head that it was from a cross.

Not that my opinion is anything to write home about, I was predicting Benjamin Siegrist to be our number 1 GK for 15 years and save us a fortune.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on January 12, 2021, 11:42:11 AM
I think i am right in saying that at the start of the season Onodi  was regarded as second choice for the youth team  behind Sinisalo  who is very highly regarded and was allowed to go out on loan for the whole season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Risso on January 12, 2021, 12:06:31 PM
I've seen far worse goalkeeping displays like that from our first team keepers, especially a certain Mr Kalinic.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on January 12, 2021, 01:39:20 PM
I think i am right in saying that at the start of the season Onodi  was regarded as second choice for the youth team  behind Sinisalo  who is very highly regarded and was allowed to go out on loan for the whole season.

Sinisalo is at Ayr and has apparently been excellent for them. I think both are very highly regarded, last season Sinisalo was with the U23s and Onodi was in the U18s. It's going to be interesting what happens next season, I wouldn't be surprised if we flip it around and Onodi goes out and Sinisalo stays as the U23 starter.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 12, 2021, 05:01:51 PM
If he did stay as the U23 starter, we could make him number 3 for the seniors and let Heaton get a move to somewhere where he can be first choice.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 12, 2021, 07:03:57 PM
Ben Chrisene and Lamare Bogarde have signed their first pro-contracts today. Not a bad week for them really!

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/Bogarde-pens-pro-deal/
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/Chrisene-signs-pro-contract/

Mentioned in both press releases that these are 16-17 year olds who have played plenty for the under 23 squad. The new philosophy in action. Good news!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: LukeJames on January 12, 2021, 07:21:13 PM
I liked the look of Chrisene, big built for 16 and very comfortable on the ball in tight areas.

Saw him bollock the ref early in the first half aswell for getting a free kick decision wrong. Definately no lack of confidence.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 12, 2021, 09:04:24 PM
Bogarde was one of the lads we brought in before Brexit closed the loophole of being able to bring in Under 18's from Europe.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: adrenachrome on January 13, 2021, 05:18:47 PM
avfc (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/Wright-joins-Walsall-on-loan/)

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Tyreik Wright has joined Walsall on loan for the remainder of the season.
The young forward has been an ever-present for the Aston Villa Under-23 squad during the current campaign, making 11 appearances and scoring twice in Premier League 2.
Wright, who can play on either wing or through the middle, will link up with The Saddlers ahead of their next League Two game against Oldham Athletic on Saturday.
Walsall are 11th in the table after 22 games, sitting four points outside of the play-off positions.
Good luck, Tyreik!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on January 14, 2021, 09:29:23 AM
Bogarde was one of the lads we brought in before Brexit closed the loophole of being able to bring in Under 18's from Europe.
Sylla looked more imposing than Bogarde in the FAC game; both look to have potential.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on January 14, 2021, 10:30:05 AM
Bogarde was one of the lads we brought in before Brexit closed the loophole of being able to bring in Under 18's from Europe.
Sylla looked more imposing than Bogarde in the FAC game; both look to have potential.

I liked the look of all 3 of the midfielders, would like to see them in a game where we have a bit more possession though so we can see how they handle controlling the game.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on January 14, 2021, 11:50:31 AM
Was wondering why Tyriek wasn't involved against Liverpool.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on January 14, 2021, 01:54:24 PM
Was wondering why Tyriek wasn't involved against Liverpool.

Yep, he was the strange one for me as well. I've seen him a few times and I don't think he's of the level to be training with the first team so I couldn't work out why he wasn't involved, all i could come up with was that he might be another one that house shares, this makes  alot more sense. He's out of contract in the summer and I'm not sure he'll get another one with us, he could still make it but I'd have a lot of question marks over him right now. That said I hope he proves me wrong, has a brilliant 6months at Walsall and earns a new deal with us, the more youth players we have pushing for a chance with the first team the better, that's the club I want us to be.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on January 14, 2021, 03:37:52 PM
Interesting article in The Athletic by Gregg Evans on the jettisoning of talent over at The Sty with us and Wolves eager to pick-up the best players:

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Birmingham City are willing to offload some of their top academy players as part of a potentially money-spinning scheme, The Athletic can reveal.

A number of youngsters are either attracting interest from rival clubs or trying to secure a move away from Birmingham after the club announced plans for a major overhaul of their youth set-up.

Last month we exclusively revealed how the club were considering changing their under-23 and under-18 teams to B and C teams in the future — similar to the model at Brentford. Ditching youth development below the under-18 level was also a move under discussion, and still remains a possibility, even though plans for Category 1 status (the highest level under the Elite Player Performance Plan) are moving forward.

England youth international Calum Scanlon recently told the club he would not be signing on as a scholar and was quickly offloaded to Liverpool who paid around £500,000 for the 15-year-old.

Rico Browne, 17, is expected to be the next player out the door. The first-year scholar is highly-rated and played in the FA Youth Cup as a schoolboy last year but Birmingham City will not stand in his way if they receive a suitable offer.

Multiple sources have told The Athletic this is also the situation for other players in the club’s academy at an even younger age.

Local Premier League rivals Aston Villa and Wolverhampton Wanderers are looking to take advantage and have already drawn up a list of targets. Both clubs are recruiting aggressively to bolster their age-group teams across the board and see this as a quick way to strengthen.

Villa recently signed 13-year-old goalkeeper Sam Proctor from Peterborough United for a maximum compensation fee of £100,000 and now — according to several academy recruitment and scouting sources — have the leading under-13s player at St Andrew’s on their radar.

A number of other clubs, including Wolves, have their eye on a few more top academy talents.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on January 15, 2021, 08:15:48 PM
Villa U23  beating Sandwell Town  after 51 minutes  Barry pen and some bloke called Lansbury got the goals
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on January 15, 2021, 09:01:35 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/p4jKLJG/Villa-U23-v-West-Brom-U23.png) (https://ibb.co/p4jKLJG)

Another win over Sandwell  Well done Villa kids
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 15, 2021, 09:19:16 PM
Why did Barry take the penalty?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: rougegorge on January 16, 2021, 09:15:26 AM
I noticed Dominic Revan has joined Weymouth on loan. They're struggling in the National League so he'll probably be busy, but it will offer some good experience.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dorsetvillian on January 16, 2021, 11:46:27 AM
If and when supporters allowed to watch Weymouth I'm sure quite a few of the local Villa support will go and give him some support.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 16, 2021, 01:53:23 PM
There's obviously a desire to loan players out to local clubs, whether that's because of Covid and wanting to keep players local to their families.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 16, 2021, 02:10:07 PM
Another one gone on loan - Callum Rowe to Hereford.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/Rowe-links-up-with-Hereford/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 16, 2021, 02:24:31 PM
He's one that I hadn't really much about but looked good last week. We must be building some good relationships with local sides. There's often been talk of having a feeder club in the past but if we have good relationships with all local sides then it will stand us in good stead.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on January 17, 2021, 02:39:12 PM
Some fine Hereford beef in return I hope.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: MorrisNielson on January 17, 2021, 07:40:14 PM
Just a quick mention about Raikhy. Made his 1st team debut last week, this week made his League debut for the U23 side.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PeterWithe on January 17, 2021, 09:58:59 PM
Hereford fans are really really strange
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: in exile on January 18, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Hereford fans are really really strange
That's bull.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 18, 2021, 11:47:17 AM
Just a quick mention about Raikhy. Made his 1st team debut last week, this week made his League debut for the U23 side.

Not many can say that.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on January 22, 2021, 07:22:39 PM
U23's leading 1-0 at Norwich.  Barry who took the penalty.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on January 22, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
U23's leading 1-0 at Norwich.  Barry who took the penalty.

....and another!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Clampy on January 22, 2021, 09:10:33 PM
Hat-trick in the end.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on January 23, 2021, 02:08:14 PM
Well done Louie ,i would imagine he has scored more goals in half a season than Keinan Davies has scored in around four years at the club .
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 24, 2021, 12:54:26 AM
There's quite a difference between U23s football and the Prem, isn't there?

Looking forward to LB's continuing development.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on January 24, 2021, 07:10:40 AM
There most definitely is. Especially at the moment when the vast majority are 18-21.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 25, 2021, 01:36:32 AM
Yes, we field very 'young' youth teams these days, though the results look good enough.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on January 25, 2021, 11:53:27 AM
The club took the decision to draw a line and to start fielding a mostly U18 side in the U21's. This means they'll have longer together, be playing against players who are more physically developed and getting them ready for loans into senior football, be that league or non-league. I think that's the right approach and hopefully, as we come out of Covid, they'll start being able to link up with European sides too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on January 28, 2021, 09:37:34 PM
https://twitter.com/PreeceObserver/status/1354818758049624073?s=08
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on January 29, 2021, 09:28:37 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/january/Vassilev-joins-Robins-on-loan/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 30, 2021, 02:09:17 PM
Under-18s win 4-0 at Reading. Brad Young with two of them. Looking good in our section of the league. Not sure how it works at the end of the season, guessing some sort of playoffs against the other division winners if you finish top?

Anywwy, league:

Palace, played 12-points 27
Fulham 12-26
Tottenham 13-25
Villa 10-25
Arsenal 11-19
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 04, 2021, 05:07:19 PM
Good news if you are a fan of the U23's

https://twitter.com/PreeceObserver/status/1357366989044514817?s=20
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on February 05, 2021, 06:15:20 PM
Anyone watching the stream for this? Is it any good?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on February 05, 2021, 06:21:15 PM
1-0 up, Kesler with the opener after 16mins.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 06:32:38 PM
Anyone watching the stream for this? Is it any good?
Stream is okay - pixillating on occasions.
Villa have just gifted an equaliser to Palace.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on February 05, 2021, 06:52:25 PM
Anyone watching the stream for this? Is it any good?
Stream is okay - pixillating on occasions.
Villa have just gifted an equaliser to Palace.

That was my worry for today, will probably sign up for the next one though.

I see we retook the lead just before half time, Farr with the second.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 07:04:35 PM
Anyone watching the stream for this? Is it any good?
Stream is okay - pixillating on occasions.
Villa have just gifted an equaliser to Palace.
That was my worry for today, will probably sign up for the next one though.
I see we retook the lead just before half time, Farr with the second.
Yes, the quality is acceptable; just. The fixed camera position is not great either.
The Villa team has played okay; grew into the game as the half wore on. Aaron Ramsey, Kesler-Hayden, Philene-Bidace and Chrisene have stood out; and Bogarde (despite his role in the goal given away) looks like a very promising CB / defensive MF.
Chukwuemeka looks pretty good.

Second half just about to start.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 07:07:57 PM
Palace equalise in the 46th minute.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: fredm on February 05, 2021, 07:21:05 PM
The camera could do with being higher so as to give a better view of the far side. Otherwise has been a good picture.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: fredm on February 05, 2021, 07:25:20 PM
Farr again. 3-2 to Villa
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 07:28:12 PM
Brad Young looks like a good prospect, too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 07:43:12 PM
Super 4th goal from Chukwuemeka
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 07:44:01 PM
4-3 Palace strike back.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: fredm on February 05, 2021, 07:44:08 PM
4-2 Villa. Chuckwenmaka (sp).
Bloody hell 4-3!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 07:47:31 PM
Revan Minor has come on and is looking good at CB.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 07:48:51 PM
4-4 Palace will not lie down.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2021, 07:50:20 PM
Given their age, Aaron Ramsey and Chukwuemeka do look pretty good.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on February 05, 2021, 10:45:45 PM
Are they still playing? No one has confirmed the final score.  Typical young fellas, out playing til it gets dark and Mums call them in for bed. Hope we won 15-12.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on February 05, 2021, 10:47:15 PM
4-4 at FT.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on February 06, 2021, 01:27:33 PM
U18s drawing away to west ham.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: TonyD on February 06, 2021, 11:01:52 PM
Why hasn’t Barry played?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on February 06, 2021, 11:12:58 PM
Why hasn’t Barry played?

Ankle injury. Out for at least another month.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: chrisw1 on February 18, 2021, 12:33:16 PM
Greg Evans has done an article in The Athletic about Philogene-Bidace.  Aparantly conract is up in the sumer and lots of clubs after him (I haven't seen full article it's behind a paywall).

Can't say I know much about our youngsters, anybody know much about this lad?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on February 18, 2021, 01:07:05 PM
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Aston Villa knew they were on to something special as soon as Jaden Philogene-Bidace pulled on the claret and blue.

The winger, now 19, was taken on trial back in December 2018 and given an opportunity in a behind-closed-doors game. Lining up alongside fellow trialists — all internationals or players connected to other professional clubs — Philogene-Bidace had little in common with those around him.

Unlike the others, he didn’t have a longstanding academy upbringing or the security of going back to another club. Brentford let him go in 2013 and subsequent trials across London were unsuccessful. Watford, Southampton and Wolverhampton Wanderers all decided he wasn’t for them, either, so he joined up with two different development centres to help kickstart his career.

At the Pro:Direct Academy, he was able to learn on the pitch as well as receiving an education. Then at Prolific Sport Management, he built up a small support network with a trusted representative who helped secure a trial at Villa.

Early into that trial, he began to show what he was about.

“An hour into his first training session, the coaches came over to me and said, ‘Where have you got this lad from?'” Villa’s former head of emerging talent, James Beaumont, tells The Athletic.

“They were saying that he was both technically and athletically unbelievable, and that he could have a really bright future.”

It was Beaumont who had recommended Philogene-Bidace after receiving a speculative call and corresponding video from a member of his inner circle saying that he should be checked out.

“When you work in recruitment, you get so many videos saying look at this guy or that guy,” Beaumont continued. “This video had been filmed from behind a criss-cross fence at a college in London. At first, I thought, here we go…

“But I watched for about 10 minutes and I noticed he had something different, something special. I had to get him in for the coaches to have a look at.”

Then came the trial game. Within minutes, all eyes were on Philogene-Bidace. A blistering display of direct and purposeful attacking football left those on the sidelines purring. The player with the lowest profile, who paid for his own digs for the three days while he tried to impress, and who had been rejected by rival clubs because of his size, turned out to be the real undiscovered gem.

“How was he not already signed up to a club?” those at Villa thought.

Tom Brady, Villa’s former head of academy recruitment, adds: “He was excellent, the best player on the pitch and he blew us all away. From the first moment we saw him, it became obvious that he was going to be a star player for our under-18 team, and potentially long-term for Villa as well.

“As he wasn’t with a club, his situation was very favourable. It was almost as if it was too good to be true. We decided to take him. It was a no-brainer.”

Not only a success story for Villa, but a shining example for other young players who often feel lost and deflated during times of rejection in their teenage years, the attacker is showing that it’s not impossible to recover from early setbacks.

When he first joined Villa, he was described by those who coach him as a “raw talent”. “He had loads of skills and was tricky, which is exactly what you want in a winger,” adds Brady. “But, as is the modern-day game now, he still needed a bit of time to be a bit more refined.

“The coaches have taught him that since.”

Developing a rock-solid mindset will be his next task. Those close to him talk about a youngster willing to listen. He’s well-liked at Villa, one of the most exciting teenagers at the club, and already doing the business, too. Although yet to make a first-team appearance, he’s scored six goals in 11 games for the under-23s and is attracting interest from a number of clubs on the continent.

Had he not been training with the senior “bubble”, and, therefore, forced into isolation with the rest of the group when there was a COVID-19 outbreak at Villa last month, he would have made his senior debut alongside a number of other development players in the 4-1 FA Cup defeat to Liverpool.

For his age — he turned 19 at the start of February — he’s progressing nicely, and the selectors at England like him, too. Bagging a hat-trick on his debut for the under-19 side in a behind-closed-doors friendly at St George’s Park last year certainly helped.

Less than three years ago, he was playing college football. Now he’s representing his country and pushing to become a regular in Villa’s first-team training sessions.

What happens next is still unclear, though, and his future remains uncertain. With just a few months remaining on his contract, there’s a big decision to make before the summer. Staying at Villa is the priority. He’s happy at the club and there’s a new contract offer on the table.

But there’s also the option of earlier exposure by moving elsewhere. The pathway into the first team at Villa will require a loan spell first and then patience. A number of big clubs in Germany, Holland, Belgium and Portugal are willing to fast-track him straight into the first-team set-up.

For a kid who was rejected as a youngster, the sudden interest is somewhat overwhelming. That a decision is yet to be made over his future only highlights that.

The weeks and months ahead are important for both Philogene-Bidace and Villa. If he sticks around in the Midlands, a plan to shape him into a future first-team player will be put in place.

If he moves on, there may be more people wondering why he slipped through the net again.

From the Athletic
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on February 18, 2021, 01:41:52 PM
Sign him up long-term with sweeteners and loan him out to the low countries next season?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on February 20, 2021, 10:16:10 PM
Aston Villa U18  1  Spurs  U18 1  It turned out to be a useful result as the two teams above us Palace and Fuham both lost We have a couple of games in hand over both and play Fulham who are the only team to beat us nexr week 
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 20, 2021, 10:19:20 PM
Glad we equalised. Was quite annoyed that Tottenham had a player called "Scarlett" in the team and he wasn't their skipper.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on February 20, 2021, 10:20:15 PM
Sign him up long-term with sweeteners and loan him out to the low countries next season?

Agreed.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on February 21, 2021, 11:24:00 AM
If Jack is out, I wonder if Philogene-Bidace will get a place on the bench.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 22, 2021, 02:05:55 AM
If he's ready, give him a chance.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on February 22, 2021, 11:27:47 AM
Noteworthy that Chukwuemeka and Kessler were on the bench yesterday. I know the former had been training with the first team since the turn of the year but presumably Kessler has only been with the 1st team squad for the past week. It would be good if he can start doing well in training and if he can, we could be set at right back next season with Cash and Kessler.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on February 26, 2021, 11:02:56 PM
Such a shame those lads missed out on the FA Cup game because they were training with the senior squad.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: GRTourist on February 28, 2021, 06:43:56 PM
Hi,

I was the photographer at your U18 match against Fulham yesterday, and I've put together this match report with a fair few of the pictures.  Hopefully it's of interest to a few:

https://thegrassrootstourist.com/2021/02/28/fulham-u18-vs-aston-villa-u18/ (https://thegrassrootstourist.com/2021/02/28/fulham-u18-vs-aston-villa-u18/)

Regards,

GRT
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on February 28, 2021, 06:45:45 PM
Nice one GRT. It would be good if the club could produce more content about the U18's and U23's.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on February 28, 2021, 06:48:32 PM
Nice one GRT. It would be good if the club could produce more content about the U18's and U23's.

Yes. That's been a real bug-bear of mine for years.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on February 28, 2021, 06:51:33 PM
Hi,

I was the photographer at your U18 match against Fulham yesterday, and I've put together this match report with a fair few of the pictures.  Hopefully it's of interest to a few:

https://thegrassrootstourist.com/2021/02/28/fulham-u18-vs-aston-villa-u18/ (https://thegrassrootstourist.com/2021/02/28/fulham-u18-vs-aston-villa-u18/)

Regards,

GRT

That was excellent. Thank you. Please feel free to post any more Villa-related shoots you may do in future.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on February 28, 2021, 06:58:09 PM
Hi,
I was the photographer at your U18 match against Fulham yesterday, and I've put together this match report with a fair few of the pictures.  Hopefully it's of interest to a few:
https://thegrassrootstourist.com/2021/02/28/fulham-u18-vs-aston-villa-u18/ (https://thegrassrootstourist.com/2021/02/28/fulham-u18-vs-aston-villa-u18/)
Regards,
GRT
That's a great way to report the game. Thanks - a brilliant read, despite the result!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on February 28, 2021, 10:55:21 PM
Really good and interesting report on the Fullham v Villa match, it certainly puts our coverage of youth and reserve football to shame  .I have mentioned it before but Fulham really are our bogey team Only team to beat us this season twice ,always seem to get a penalty and i notice our team seemed to missing a few regulars
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 01, 2021, 11:44:02 AM
I tend to associate the term 'bogey team' as a team who are mid-table or lower who always get a result against us despite their position. I think Fulham are one of the top sides in the league so it was always going to be a tough game but there's a number of lads in that team making their first or one of their first U18 games. Even for an U18 team, it looked like quite a young side. Possibly part of a greater strategy of getting players into sides early as part of their development.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 01, 2021, 01:52:13 PM
U23s are away at Sunderland. Currently 0-0 at half time. It's as weak a U23 team as I've seen us put out all season, I think a lot of players who could be involved must be with the first team squad.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: PGW on March 01, 2021, 02:59:59 PM
Aaron Ramsay with 2 and Brad Young just about see us home 3-2.

Leaders Leeds losing at Palace also.
No tears shed there that's for sure.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on March 01, 2021, 10:50:49 PM
As i suspected we  put out a weakened team at Fulham with a eye to todays U23 game at Sunderland ,Several of the guys who would have played at Fulham played this afternoon
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2021, 08:00:27 PM
New contract for JPB. Our up and coming forward.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/Philogene-Bidace-pens-new-deal/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 02, 2021, 08:02:28 PM
Is this the lad who lots of teams were sniffing around?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2021, 08:05:10 PM
Yep. Leipzig were one apparently

Here is a little snippet I found of him

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 02, 2021, 08:07:02 PM
Looks and sounds all very positive
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 02, 2021, 09:25:52 PM
Excellent news as I was concerned he might leave with the stories around.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 02, 2021, 11:40:49 PM
Great news, I really like what I've seen of him, pace, quick feet and the confidence to try a few tricks. With some good coaching he can become a very good player.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Drummond on March 03, 2021, 07:59:35 AM
Excellent news as I was concerned he might leave with the stories around.

No doubt agent stories to try and get him some more money...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 03, 2021, 01:05:25 PM
Excellent news as I was concerned he might leave with the stories around.

No doubt agent stories to try and get him some more money...

From what I can make out the delay in signing was about game time more than money.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 03, 2021, 02:43:29 PM
New deal for Seb Revan. Is that Dom’s brother?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on March 03, 2021, 02:48:21 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on March 03, 2021, 05:14:56 PM
Do we have any partnerships with Antwerp or Voldendam etc. where we can get these boiz toughened-up for big boys football?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 03, 2021, 05:17:30 PM
Another one who has been involved with England at youth level.

We do like to recruit brothers, don't we!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 12, 2021, 11:12:47 AM
Some encouraging remarks from Mark Delaney ahead of this afternoon's game against Burnley -

“We’ve improved our performances from the start of the season until now. We’re looking to finish as strong as we can.

“The next three games are at home, but we know they’re against the teams around us in those play-off positions. We’ve seen a massive progression in the whole Academy for the whole year.

“Players training with the first team, my U23s is full of Under-18s, the U18s are full of Under-17s, so for us that’s everything.

“As much as we’d love to see us in the play-offs and getting promoted, we’ve been really progressing as an Academy this year which is the most important thing.”
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on March 12, 2021, 01:04:31 PM
Louie Barry is playing too - is this his first game back?

More encouraging news.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on March 12, 2021, 04:20:03 PM
Lost 3-2 to Burnley U23.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on March 12, 2021, 07:54:29 PM
Dreadful defending by Villa i am sorry to say  Villa knew where Burnley would pose problems,corners and set pieces .After just 3 minutes from a corner the Villa keeper Onodi missed the ball and left the Burnley striker a free header .We got back level with a Barry shot deflected in and then Barry had a goal ruled out for offside which looked a tight decision  Then at the start of the second half Burnley took the lead from yet another corner and yet again Onodi  at fault  .Villa managed to make it 2-2 in the first minute of Stoppage time through Ramsay  and then managed to throw the game away through more dreadful defending  The left back Chrisene i think his name is played a back pass and Onodi completed a afternoon to forget by bringing the Burnley player down for a penalty 
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on March 12, 2021, 07:54:31 PM
Saw most of it. Strangely similar to watching the first team against Burnley. Conceded from two corners and a penalty. Keeper had a tough time dealing with high balls in very high winds.

Standout player was Chukwuemeka. Proper box to box midfielder, crucial interceptions at the back, carries it out of defence well but also creating chances and getting into scoring positions. Fantastic prospect for a 17 year old.

Barry watch... I think it was his shot that was deflected in by a defender for our first. Then had a goal harshly ruled out for offside. Looks very skilful, maybe tries to be a bit too fancy at times (tried to lob the keeper when a normal shot looked a better option for example) but definitely exciting.

Hopefully we'll see them get some chances for the first team before the end of the season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: aj2k77 on March 13, 2021, 09:59:35 AM
Onodi sounds a right find.....
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 13, 2021, 02:07:09 PM
A night to forget at U23 level as well as senior level.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on March 13, 2021, 05:46:02 PM
Aston Villa U18  2 West Ham U 18 2   Our youth team mirrored our first team and reserve team yesterday by conceding a late goal ,which was a own goal at that
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on March 16, 2021, 10:36:40 AM
We now have two professional Ramseys on the books!
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/Aaron-Ramsey-pens-professional-contract/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 16, 2021, 04:51:49 PM
Another one sorted. Great work.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 19, 2021, 07:39:11 PM
U23s home to stoke, 2-1 up, goals from kesler and ramsey, about 35mins in.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on March 19, 2021, 08:04:00 PM
Half-time and it's now 2-4 to Stoke.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on March 19, 2021, 10:44:59 PM
Ended 3-4
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 20, 2021, 01:18:36 PM
Another couple of goals for Aaron Ramsey. I thought he was more of a defensive midfielder but he's scoring plenty of goals for the U23's.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on March 20, 2021, 09:38:02 PM
Our U23 side are like the womens team,they just cannot defend set pieces and corners .Good win for the U18 at Southampton  today 2-0
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 20, 2021, 11:08:01 PM
Our U23 side are like the womens team,they just cannot defend set pieces and corners .Good win for the U18 at Southampton  today 2-0

Both goals from Taylor Jay-Har - I've heard nothing about him but 4 goals in 10 games from midfield is pretty handy.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 21, 2021, 12:33:02 AM
Shame the U-23s lost, as they scored three good goals and could have had others.

Ramsey was very impressive and passed the ball very well. Lots of other good performances, as well, from what was a young side.

As mentioned before, the inability to defend balls into the box cost us. Paul Appiah, who came on for the last half-hour, looked a more muscular player who would have done us some good before the break.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on March 21, 2021, 09:10:15 AM
What has happened to Mungo Bridge,is he injured or has he gone out on loan
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on March 21, 2021, 09:12:53 AM
Not sure. Think he might be injured as he is not out on loan as far as I know.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on March 21, 2021, 09:16:30 AM
Cheers Legion  I learn more from you than i do our club Is the F A youth cup on Wednesday at Villa Park or Bodymoor?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on March 21, 2021, 09:20:58 AM
The coverage from the club is a little better this season but still not great. We're at home to Brighton so would assume BMH.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 23, 2021, 01:00:10 AM
The website says it's at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on March 24, 2021, 01:06:42 PM
Yeah 4th Round KO 7pm live on Villa TV

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/march/Watch-the-FA-Youth-Cup-live-on-VillaTV-/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 24, 2021, 01:36:59 PM
Kaine Kesler and Jaden Philogene-Bidace called up to England U19's training camp.

Filip Marschall, Carney Chukwuemeka, Aaron Ramsey and Louie Barry called up for the England U18's friendly against Wales.

Ben Chrisene called up to an England U17's training camp.

Tyreik Wright (Republic of Ireland U21's) and Caolan McBride (Northern Ireland U19's) also called up to their respective age groups.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on March 24, 2021, 02:13:56 PM
The Under 18s match against Wales is not till next Monday 29th, can't see why the Villa lads couldn't have played tonight, never mind.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 24, 2021, 02:37:42 PM
The Under 18s match against Wales is not till next Monday 29th, can't see why the Villa lads couldn't have played tonight, never mind.

Training camps and potential quarantine?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on March 24, 2021, 02:44:22 PM
The Under 18s match against Wales is not till next Monday 29th, can't see why the Villa lads couldn't have played tonight, never mind.

Training camps and potential quarantine?

Ah yes probably
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 24, 2021, 09:02:29 PM
won 3-0 in the youth cup tonight with goals from Kesler and A. Ramsey (x2) so they clearly haven't gone to England training yet.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on March 24, 2021, 09:16:26 PM
A  really  good performance from the Villa Youth tonight They totally outclassed a side who had won their last six matches  and i think its fair to say it could have been five or six .We really do have some outstanding youth players and this team should not be afraid of anyone .I was impressed to see that Smith,Terry ,Shaky and Cutler were there watching  and also Purslow
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 24, 2021, 09:20:46 PM
A  really  good performance from the Villa Youth tonight They totally outclassed a side who had won their last six matches  and i think its fair to say it could have been five or six .We really do have some outstanding youth players and this team should not be afraid of anyone .I was impressed to see that Smith,Terry ,Shaky and Cutler were there watching  and also Purslow




All good to hear
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on March 24, 2021, 09:25:23 PM
A  really  good performance from the Villa Youth tonight They totally outclassed a side who had won their last six matches  and i think its fair to say it could have been five or six .We really do have some outstanding youth players and this team should not be afraid of anyone .I was impressed to see that Smith,Terry ,Shaky and Cutler were there watching  and also Purslow

Agreed. Bags of potential in this team, excellent performance tonight.

It struck me that the players that stood out the most are in areas where we are a bit light in the first team. Bogarde looked a solid right footed CB, confident on the ball and able to bring it out from the back. Both full backs full of energy and a threat going forward. Creativity in midfield from Ramsey and Chukwuemeka. Barry with that 'x factor' on the wing or central.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: robleflaneur on March 24, 2021, 09:25:42 PM
The youth team looked impressive and completely dominated Brighton.Great central midfield performances from Aaron Ramsey,scored twice,Chukuweumeka and Raikhy  ,the latter  won tackle after tackle and used the ball well,especially his free kick for Kesler to open the scoring.
The defence,apart from a couple of lapses of concentration trying to play out from the back,never gave Brighton a sniff.Two good full backs in Kesler and Chisene and good performances from Bogarde ,who looks composed on the ball,and Seb Revan who is very pacy.8
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 24, 2021, 09:30:16 PM
A  really  good performance from the Villa Youth tonight They totally outclassed a side who had won their last six matches  and i think its fair to say it could have been five or six .We really do have some outstanding youth players and this team should not be afraid of anyone .I was impressed to see that Smith,Terry ,Shaky and Cutler were there watching  and also Purslow

Agreed. Bags of potential in this team, excellent performance tonight.

It struck me that the players that stood out the most are in areas where we are a bit light in the first team. Bogarde looked a solid right footed CB, confident on the ball and able to bring it out from the back. Both full backs full of energy and a threat going forward. Creativity in midfield from Ramsey and Chukwuemeka. Barry with that 'x factor' on the wing or central.



We've got to be careful not to block their pathway into the first team if we think they have the potential and ability but not quite where we need to be in their development. We might have to loan some players in for a season if we think they need another year. Or if we integrate them into the squad, we can't just have them sitting on the bench when they could be getting experience somewhere.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: WarszaVillan on March 24, 2021, 10:05:07 PM
How did Oliwier Zych play, the Polish kid in goal?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: FailsworthVillan on March 24, 2021, 10:10:19 PM
He had very little to do. Don’t recall him having to make a save.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on March 24, 2021, 10:26:54 PM
A  really  good performance from the Villa Youth tonight They totally outclassed a side who had won their last six matches  and i think its fair to say it could have been five or six .We really do have some outstanding youth players and this team should not be afraid of anyone .I was impressed to see that Smith,Terry ,Shaky and Cutler were there watching  and also Purslow

Agreed. Bags of potential in this team, excellent performance tonight.

It struck me that the players that stood out the most are in areas where we are a bit light in the first team. Bogarde looked a solid right footed CB, confident on the ball and able to bring it out from the back. Both full backs full of energy and a threat going forward. Creativity in midfield from Ramsey and Chukwuemeka. Barry with that 'x factor' on the wing or central.



We've got to be careful not to block their pathway into the first team if we think they have the potential and ability but not quite where we need to be in their development. We might have to loan some players in for a season if we think they need another year. Or if we integrate them into the squad, we can't just have them sitting on the bench when they could be getting experience somewhere.

Very good point. I think I'd rather see Barry and A Ramsey get a go as backups next season than Trezeguet and Barkley for example. The third goal tonight was a great run by Barry, picked the right option with a well weighted pass to Ramsey, who found the bottom corner with a composed finish. It's hard to think in the same situation Trezeguet wouldn't have overhit the pass, or blazed it over himself. Or even if he had found Barkley, he wouldn't have mis controlled it or shot tamely wide.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on March 24, 2021, 11:53:39 PM
What's Brighton's pedigree like at this level - any young Barrys or Standings?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: FailsworthVillan on March 25, 2021, 08:22:42 AM
Very good according to the commentator. He said Brighton came into the game following a 6 match winning run and had been scoring goals for fun. On last nights evidence however, they seemed very mediocre. Only their keeper had a decent game. For the last 10 minutes the outfield players did nothing but hack our players down.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Scratchins on March 25, 2021, 08:32:35 AM
That was a joy to watch. The future looks bright and I trust this team to manage their development.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 25, 2021, 12:34:38 PM
We should be pushing a few of these into the matchday squad now we have nothing to play for.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 25, 2021, 12:43:59 PM
With the amount of goals Aaron Ramsey's been scoring, I just wonder whether he's already outgrowing youth football...seen that happen before. It wouldn't surprise me if he's knocking at the door very loudly right now.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: robleflaneur on March 25, 2021, 04:25:09 PM
A  really  good performance from the Villa Youth tonight They totally outclassed a side who had won their last six matches  and i think its fair to say it could have been five or six .We really do have some outstanding youth players and this team should not be afraid of anyone .I was impressed to see that Smith,Terry ,Shaky and Cutler were there watching  and also Purslow

Agreed. Bags of potential in this team, excellent performance tonight.

It struck me that the players that stood out the most are in areas where we are a bit light in the first team. Bogarde looked a solid right footed CB, confident on the ball and able to bring it out from the back. Both full backs full of energy and a threat going forward. Creativity in midfield from Ramsey and Chukwuemeka. Barry with that 'x factor' on the wing or central.



We've got to be careful not to block their pathway into the first team if we think they have the potential and ability but not quite where we need to be in their development. We might have to loan some players in for a season if we think they need another year. Or if we integrate them into the squad, we can't just have them sitting on the bench when they could be getting experience somewhere.
Agree totally about having a clear pathway to the first team squad.The central midfield of Chukwuemeka and Aaron Ramsey could certainly handle League One football next year and the other midfielder,Raikhy,I think would thrive in it as he is physically stronger,an absolute animal who loves a tackle and plays it simple.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: JD on March 26, 2021, 05:16:11 AM
Given our lack of creativity without Jack, I would love to see young Barry get a run as sub in some of the remaining games. Rather him than Keinan.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on March 26, 2021, 05:39:34 PM
Dream combo, skill and brawn.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on March 27, 2021, 12:16:07 PM
Just watched the highlights of the youth cup game on the OS and Aaron Ramsey is the one that really stood out for me.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 28, 2021, 02:21:52 AM
Ramsey, Chukwumeka and Raikhy were great in the midfield. Ramsey is great to watch when he's on the ball.

Mostly good defending as well -the 'keeper was quiet all night.

Up front, we also have good players but they were a little disappointing tonight.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 28, 2021, 02:33:28 AM
PS. Carney is the same age as Bellingham!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on March 28, 2021, 10:32:05 AM
Just watched the highlights of the youth cup game on the OS and Aaron Ramsey is the one that really stood out for me.

Same for me. I know it’s harder to gauge with just TV highlights, but he seemed to be involved in absolutely everything that was happening going forward.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on March 28, 2021, 03:35:13 PM
That was a great ten minute watch, the highlights of the Youth Cup game. Chuck W has the physique of a Premier League midfielder who you don't mess with. And Ramsey Jr (or more accurately Ramsey Middle Brother) looks like he has the knack for danger in the final third.

I Iiked how after the goals almost every team-mate joined in with the celebration. Seems like a tight-knit group.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 28, 2021, 04:57:56 PM
That was a great ten minute watch, the highlights of the Youth Cup game. Chuck W has the physique of a Premier League midfielder who you don't mess with. And Ramsey Jr (or more accurately Ramsey Middle Brother) looks like he has the knack for danger in the final third.

I Iiked how after the goals almost every team-mate joined in with the celebration. Seems like a tight-knit group.

I agree in Cukwuemeka, I'd like to see him get some gametime before the summer, same as Kesler and Philogene-Bidace, I think they all look physically ready for it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 29, 2021, 01:31:42 PM
England U18 playing away to Wales right now -


Ramsey and Barry played in the first half and England made 10 cvhanges at half time and now Chukwuemeka is on and has been the best play in the pitch in this 25ish minutes. The way he's playing here reminds me of Luiz for us as a deep playmaker.

i didn't see the first half so no idea how the other 2 played.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on March 29, 2021, 01:38:19 PM
and now he's scored to make it 2-0 good finish.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on March 29, 2021, 02:08:04 PM
You can pick up a livestream via the Birmingham Mail websot and scroll back to watch the whole game.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:08:33 PM
1-0 - Lovely first goal from Kessler on the counter from a corner against the dogheads.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: thick_mike on April 02, 2021, 03:10:53 PM
Keep us updated...I’d love to watch this one. Is there a match pass option?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:11:38 PM
Keep us updated...I’d love to watch this one. Is there a match pass option?

£1.99 on Villa TV. All proceeds go to the Foundation. Wesley playing the first half looks very tidy so far.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: JuanMartinez on April 02, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Big Wes looking very useful, get him on the bench for P1op next week and bin Davis.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:23:51 PM
Oh fuck. Wesley has gone down and clutching his right knee. Looks in pain.

Edit: ok phew...he’s ok. Looked worse than it ended up being.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: thick_mike on April 02, 2021, 03:27:32 PM
I thought I’d cursed him
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Edvard Remberg on April 02, 2021, 03:38:12 PM
Almost thought Jack was playing by looking at Barry's hairstyle...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:38:50 PM
Jed Steer really is excellent. Two brilliant back to back saves keeps it 1-0.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:39:43 PM
Wesley down again. He doesn’t look healthy at all. Coming off.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: thick_mike on April 02, 2021, 03:41:58 PM
Yep, Wes doesn’t look happy
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:45:58 PM
Unlucky...JPB off the post.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:50:58 PM
Penno Villa. Slotted home by Louie Bazza. 2-0
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 02, 2021, 03:51:57 PM
Coverted by Louie Barry, two-nil.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 02, 2021, 03:52:13 PM
Too quick for me, TV. 🙂
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:52:58 PM
Too quick for me, TV. 🙂

It’s been a good game so far. Very enjoyable. Nice way to spend a lovely albeit nippy Good Friday morning here.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: JuanMartinez on April 02, 2021, 03:54:04 PM
Barry, penalty.

He had to take it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 02, 2021, 03:54:13 PM
Too quick for me, TV. 🙂

It’s been a good game so far. Very enjoyable. Nice way to spend a lovely albeit nippy Good Friday morning here.

I take it you get the day off?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: thick_mike on April 02, 2021, 03:54:25 PM
2-0 HT
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 03:55:52 PM
I take it you get the day off?

We do. It’s not a national holiday or anything though. I think companies either give Friday or Monday as a day off. Unless you are government or teachers then you get both.

Mind you, in an era of “working from home”, I’d probably still have found a way to watch it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 02, 2021, 04:04:51 PM
Why DID Barry take the penalty? (Sorry)

First time I've seen Philogene-Bidace, I was expecting the skills but he also looks solid covering in defence, looks like he can tackle. Must be near the top of the queue for the first team.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on April 02, 2021, 04:17:28 PM
Regarding the Ramseys:

Jacob - Ramsey Senior
Aaron- Ramsey Junior
Cole  - Ramsey Junior
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on April 02, 2021, 04:18:35 PM
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Regarding the Ramseys:

Jacob - Ramsey Senior
Aaron - Ramsey Junior
Cole  - Ramsey Minor
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 04:26:48 PM
Sitter missed by Farr. Should be 3-0

Followed up by Kesler with another great chance after wizardry by JPB on the edge of the box.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 04:32:25 PM
Was always coming and our future England RB Kesler makes it 3-0
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on April 02, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
3-0 Villa. Kesler again, moments after he should have scored (smashed a shot when placing it would have been the best option).

The skill, movement and exchanges between the Villa youngsters in tight spaces is exceptional at times.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 02, 2021, 04:35:18 PM
Kesler is so good going forward he could probably do a job on the right wing for us.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 04:35:21 PM
Blimey should be 4-0. Farr made the chance himself. Good save keeper.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 04:51:11 PM
Now 4-0. Kesler Hayden could have scored himself but instead set up Ramsey with the easy finish.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: thick_mike on April 02, 2021, 05:00:22 PM
Very impressed, first time I’ve watched them.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 02, 2021, 05:06:16 PM
Dodged a couple of bullets along the way in the first half, but by the end it was a very convincing win.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: exigo on April 02, 2021, 05:10:14 PM
Kesler really can't be far from making the first team squad. And plenty of others as well.
They move the ball well, and are so comfortable under pressure. Credit to Delaney.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Clampy on April 02, 2021, 05:12:34 PM
Kesler really can't be far from making the first team squad. And plenty of others as well.
They move the ball well, and are so comfortable under pressure. Credit to Delaney.

Didn't see Delaney today, it was George Boateng on the touchline by the look of it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on April 02, 2021, 10:22:17 PM
Nice to see us thrash the young upstarts from Wolverhampton Barcelona for the second time this season  It could and should have been at least six .Wolves were not that bad actually but just could't live with our youngsters .I have to say Mark Harrison has really turned our youth set up into something really exciting
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 02, 2021, 10:40:01 PM
Agreed. He needs to update his bloody LinkedIn page, though.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 02, 2021, 11:53:45 PM
Highlights are up on villatv if anyone is interested, Chukwuemeka really does look the bollocks, very classy player.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 03, 2021, 09:12:51 AM
Highlights are up on villatv if anyone is interested, Chukwuemeka really does look the bollocks, very classy player.
Steer made some very necessary saves in the first half.
There are some talents in that squad, for sure.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 03, 2021, 11:15:23 AM
Agreed. He needs to update his bloody LinkedIn page, though.

Once a Baggie...?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: TelfordVilla on April 03, 2021, 11:36:17 AM
Highlights are up on villatv if anyone is interested, Chukwuemeka really does look the bollocks, very classy player.
Agreed, he has to be ready for a first team run out at some point this season. Massive guy, massive talent
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: LukeJames on April 03, 2021, 01:31:24 PM
Fuck me that Carney Chukwuemka chap looks the bollocks. He looked on the highlights as if he was taking the piss and playing miles below his level.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Zia of Rivia on April 03, 2021, 01:35:29 PM
Would love to see him make his debut before the end of the season. I feel he's going to be a massive talent.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on April 04, 2021, 01:55:43 AM
Surprisingly, I was a little disappointed by the display which was a bit fitful.

Thought we should have scored in the first minute -Kessler missed, which is unusual. Both of his goals were very well taken.

Wolves dominated a lot of the ball, though not much got through. Appalling mistake by CB Sohna that had to be rescued (twice) by Jed.

The skills shown in the build-up to the third goal were mouth-watering -almost Jackesque!!

I was also impressed with Farr (sub) who could have had a second-half hat-trick.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Neil Hawkes on April 04, 2021, 10:17:34 AM
Highlights are up on villatv if anyone is interested, Chukwuemeka really does look the bollocks, very classy player.
I believe he will be in the squad next season as a Barkley replacement; whether he is on the bench or starting will depend on who is brought in to replace Barkley.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 04, 2021, 12:15:59 PM
Highlights are up on villatv if anyone is interested, Chukwuemeka really does look the bollocks, very classy player.
I believe he will be in the squad next season as a Barkley replacement; whether he is on the bench or starting will depend on who is brought in to replace Barkley.

Chukwuemeka seems to have a deeper starting position than the number 10 role Barkley has been playing. It seems to be Aaron Ramsey that's been playing that role.

Many of these kids will be going out on loan. We haven't just appointed a Loans Manager and Coach to then be keeping them here.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on April 05, 2021, 05:42:36 PM
At home to Burton Albion in the last 16 round of the FA Youth Cup Wed 14th April 3pm ko, not sure why it's an early start all the other ties, kick off at 7pm on various dates.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on April 06, 2021, 06:52:24 PM
More evidence of the continuation of moving on those not deemed good enough to let us bring through younger players.

"Aston Villa poised to release nine Under-23s as others get fresh chance."

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfers-under23s-bodymoor-20328799

A tough time to be out of contract given Covid and the financial difficulties facing all clubs, but at least if they’ve been told now it gives them a good few months before next season to try and get fixed up elsewhere.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 09, 2021, 01:29:42 PM
Young Louie Baz gives us the lead at Fulham

Edit: battered 4-1 in the end
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 09, 2021, 08:55:34 PM
Fulham seem to have a good youth development programme going by how our U18 and U23's have fared against them.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on April 09, 2021, 09:33:14 PM
Not surprised at all to see we got thrashed at Fulham this afternoon  I have mentioned before they always seem to beat us at reserve and youth level I noticed there was no sign of Wesley i wonder if we are not being told the full extent of his injury last week
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on April 10, 2021, 02:05:20 AM
Wesley was on this week's training video with the first team squad.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 10, 2021, 11:21:18 AM
Can't find the quote but I've seen Smith say that his knock last week was nothing and that he needs more games before he can be involved with the first team.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Risso on April 10, 2021, 11:44:39 AM
Can't find the quote but I've seen Smith say that his knock last week was nothing and that he needs more games before he can be involved with the first team.

Yep, then said that he hoped he be involved sometime before the end of the season.  I think it's far more likely to be next season now, full pre-season under his belt and he'll be fine I reckon.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 10, 2021, 01:40:04 PM
Babbies losing six-nil at home to Chelsea. 😧
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 10, 2021, 01:44:33 PM
Seven.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on April 10, 2021, 05:21:34 PM
What a lousy weekend ,U23 thrashed 4 1 at Fulham ,U18 thrashed 7 0 by Chelsea and the bin dippers win in stoppage time for the second season running
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 12, 2021, 04:09:41 PM
Is there fuckery afoot? We're the mighty Villa, these result are beneath us.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 12, 2021, 06:39:40 PM
Babbies losing six-nil at home to Chelsea. 😧

We're concentrating on the Cup this year.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dave P on April 14, 2021, 12:21:17 PM
Also we use the academies as a genuine step to progression.  Our U'18s are basically 16 and our under 23's are our best 17-20 year olds.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 14, 2021, 01:45:26 PM
Burton Albion at home today at 3pm in the Youth Cup quarter-final.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 14, 2021, 03:11:58 PM
2-0 up 8 mins gone
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on April 14, 2021, 03:22:59 PM
3
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 14, 2021, 03:31:04 PM
Louie Bazza really is very good and I would love to see him make his senior debut this season
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 14, 2021, 03:50:53 PM
6-0 at half time

Deano is there. Chukwuemeka (x2), Barry (x2) and A Ramsey (x1) look too good for this level. Surely we are going to give these kids a chance this season? No crowds, less pressure and it seems impossible they could do worse than Barkley and El Ghazi on recent form.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 14, 2021, 03:59:44 PM
I'd definitely be giving Chukwuemeka a look, he's a big lad and looks a bit of a bully at this level.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 14, 2021, 04:14:36 PM
Good to see Jack and Purslow there again.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2021, 04:26:17 PM
Seven-none.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 14, 2021, 04:34:03 PM
Ramsey and Chukwuemeka were subbed after 60 mins, hopefully because they are needed for first team training tomorrow.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 14, 2021, 04:45:50 PM
8-0 Barry free kick for his hat trick
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: manic-road on April 14, 2021, 05:01:23 PM
Cruised to a 9-0 victory, Barry will be knocking on the first team door at this rate. I would like to see him get some gametime now why we don't have that much to play for this season, less pressure.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 14, 2021, 05:01:32 PM
Seb Revan got a 9th and that's where it finished.

Any feedback from anyone who watched it?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: robleflaneur on April 14, 2021, 05:11:39 PM
Finished 9-0.Some outstanding prospects,the midfield trio of Ramsey,Chukwuemeka and Raikhy,Barry  with a hat trick upfront,Kesler at right back and Bogarde who is very good in possession at the back.Left back Chrisene,who had a good game and has played for Exeter's first team,went off at half time and Seb Revan switched from centre back and had a superb second half in the left back role.So basically the whole team.
If I would like to see one player make his debut ,it would be Kesler.He is quicker than the others and looks comfortable in advanced positions,plus it would enable us to sell Guilbert.
Burton are no mugs and disposed of Stoke and Southampton in previous rounds but were undone by quick accurate passing and support play in midfield.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 14, 2021, 05:11:59 PM
Seb Revan got a 9th and that's where it finished.

Any feedback from anyone who watched it?

As you'd expect from the scoreline, it was an absolute demolition and probably should have been more like 12-0. We looked on another level to Burton. Sensational football from Chukwuemeka, Barry and Aaron Ramsey in particular, some of the one touch passing and movement was a joy to watch. Chukwuemeka just looks to be a brilliant prospect, so composed and assured on the ball, like a young Yaya Toure. Deserves a chance in the first team asap to inspire the rest of the kids, and any prospects we are looking to sign in the summer.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: robleflaneur on April 14, 2021, 05:28:53 PM
Seb Revan got a 9th and that's where it finished.

Any feedback from anyone who watched it?

As you'd expect from the scoreline, it was an absolute demolition and probably should have been more like 12-0. We looked on another level to Burton. Sensational football from Chukwuemeka, Barry and Aaron Ramsey in particular, some of the one touch passing and movement was a joy to watch. Chukwuemeka just looks to be a brilliant prospect, so composed and assured on the ball, like a young Yaya Toure. Deserves a chance in the first team asap to inspire the rest of the kids, and any prospects we are looking to sign in the summer.
Fully agree with the sentiment of inspiring the other youngsters and as a marketing device and also with the one touch passing and movement that so many of this team excel at.
Last evening I was bemoaning the England women's approach,the constant mantra of getting it wide,trying to work in narrow channels along the touchline and nobody offering to play one-twos with the 2 central midfielders.
This afternoon was a delight,every player being given the option of a short pass and the constant interchange was progressive and positive.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 14, 2021, 06:11:33 PM
A young Yaya Toure...that's what we want to hear!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 14, 2021, 07:27:18 PM
Thanks for the detailed feedback on the kids. Today's game was actually the 5th round. Away to the Jawdees on May 1 in the quarter-final.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 14, 2021, 07:37:42 PM
Chukwuemeka got a hat-trick as well didn’t he?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dave on April 14, 2021, 07:52:25 PM
Louie Bazza really is very good and I would love to see him make his senior debut this season

He did in the Liverpool cup game, didn't he? Just because we couldn't play any of the first-team, it was still a proper match.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: LukeJames on April 14, 2021, 07:53:46 PM
Highlights on social media. Fucking pornographic football, it genuinly looked as  if we were taking the piss at times.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on April 14, 2021, 07:53:53 PM
Cruised to a 9-0 victory, Barry will be knocking on the first team door at this rate. I would like to see him get some gametime now why we don't have that much to play for this season, less pressure.

Put him on for the last half hour against the Albion - him getting the winner against that lot would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 14, 2021, 07:59:34 PM
Chukwuemeka got a hat-trick as well didn’t he?

First one was an own goal I think, came from Chukwuemeka bursting into the box and putting in a cross/shot. Wasn't much the defender could do from what I saw.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on April 14, 2021, 08:03:50 PM
Amongst a few of those lads, I really like the look of Kesler at right back. I think he could back up Matty Cash quite easily.

Also, I’m probably wrong, but I thought you had to be 18 to get tattooed? Louie Barry definitely has one and isn’t 18!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: LukeJames on April 14, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
14-17 (depending on region) in Spain according to the t'internet.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 14, 2021, 09:36:47 PM
With Young and Barry on the team sheet, it slightly resembles a recent Villa team.

Have to wonder what we'll do in the transfer market when we've got some real talent on the way through. No point in spending £20m on someone if it's going to block the pathway of a kid like Chukwuemeka or Ramsey.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: The Edge on April 14, 2021, 09:53:10 PM
Chukwuemeka (I'm calling him Chuk from now on) seems to be a fantastic prospect. He's the same age as Bellingham and wouldn't it be brilliant to see him getting some minutes for the first team and maybe Barry? I'd really love to see it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 14, 2021, 10:29:35 PM
Louie Bazza really is very good and I would love to see him make his senior debut this season

He did in the Liverpool cup game, didn't he? Just because we couldn't play any of the first-team, it was still a proper match.

C’mon Dave you knew what I meant. He’d have never have played in that game had we been healthy. I meant in the league.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 14, 2021, 11:25:11 PM
With Young and Barry on the team sheet, it slightly resembles a recent Villa team.

Have to wonder what we'll do in the transfer market when we've got some real talent on the way through. No point in spending £20m on someone if it's going to block the pathway of a kid like Chukwuemeka or Ramsey.

This is why this summer is a rare one where I wouldn't mind seeing us grab an older player or 2 who comes in as first choice but with the plan to phase him out over a year or 2 to be replaced by one of them. Gives them someone to learn from as well if we get the right sort of player. The problem is I can't think of anyone who'd fill the role I think we need to look for who is the right age.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Scratchins on April 15, 2021, 08:15:16 AM
The F A Youth Cup was a joy to watch. Skill, talent. played in a good spirit and great goals. Barry's free kick would be shown again and again if it had been on a Sky game. It cost 22p a goal! The future is bright.    :D
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Drummond on April 15, 2021, 08:19:45 AM
With Young and Barry on the team sheet, it slightly resembles a recent Villa team.

Have to wonder what we'll do in the transfer market when we've got some real talent on the way through. No point in spending £20m on someone if it's going to block the pathway of a kid like Chukwuemeka or Ramsey.

This is why this summer is a rare one where I wouldn't mind seeing us grab an older player or 2 who comes in as first choice but with the plan to phase him out over a year or 2 to be replaced by one of them. Gives them someone to learn from as well if we get the right sort of player. The problem is I can't think of anyone who'd fill the role I think we need to look for who is the right age.

James Milner
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: jwarry on April 15, 2021, 08:42:05 AM
Watching the highlights Barry seems to play a left sided Jack role, so come on Dean give him his chance whilst JG is out
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 15, 2021, 02:14:10 PM
With Young and Barry on the team sheet, it slightly resembles a recent Villa team.

Have to wonder what we'll do in the transfer market when we've got some real talent on the way through. No point in spending £20m on someone if it's going to block the pathway of a kid like Chukwuemeka or Ramsey.

This is why this summer is a rare one where I wouldn't mind seeing us grab an older player or 2 who comes in as first choice but with the plan to phase him out over a year or 2 to be replaced by one of them. Gives them someone to learn from as well if we get the right sort of player. The problem is I can't think of anyone who'd fill the role I think we need to look for who is the right age.

Maybe a couple of Barkley-type loans (hopefully with more successful outcomes) for a year or two.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 15, 2021, 02:49:19 PM
With Young and Barry on the team sheet, it slightly resembles a recent Villa team.

Have to wonder what we'll do in the transfer market when we've got some real talent on the way through. No point in spending £20m on someone if it's going to block the pathway of a kid like Chukwuemeka or Ramsey.

This is why this summer is a rare one where I wouldn't mind seeing us grab an older player or 2 who comes in as first choice but with the plan to phase him out over a year or 2 to be replaced by one of them. Gives them someone to learn from as well if we get the right sort of player. The problem is I can't think of anyone who'd fill the role I think we need to look for who is the right age.

Maybe a couple of Barkley-type loans (hopefully with more successful outcomes) for a year or two.

The difficulty with loans is that getting players who are fit, in-form and experienced on loan is pretty hard to do because they're generally still valued by their parent club. We got Barkley because he wasn'tfit enough or in-form enough to get a look in at Chelsea and, bar a few early games, those problems have travelled with him. Every now and then a club will loan someone like that in and everything just works (us with Mings, West Ham with Lingard) but it's rare and after 2 fails with midfielders on loan I don't think we can risk a 3rd attempt.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 15, 2021, 03:47:55 PM
Is that Marc Regan from BBC WM on comms for the highlights on Pravda?

Nice interview with Louie on the website. Comes across as a lovely fella.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Ian. on April 15, 2021, 04:14:43 PM
With Young and Barry on the team sheet, it slightly resembles a recent Villa team.

Have to wonder what we'll do in the transfer market when we've got some real talent on the way through. No point in spending £20m on someone if it's going to block the pathway of a kid like Chukwuemeka or Ramsey.

This is why this summer is a rare one where I wouldn't mind seeing us grab an older player or 2 who comes in as first choice but with the plan to phase him out over a year or 2 to be replaced by one of them. Gives them someone to learn from as well if we get the right sort of player. The problem is I can't think of anyone who'd fill the role I think we need to look for who is the right age.

That’s only good if we get the right sort of old head. Man Utd do this very well time and time again. We’ve got this so wrong and had some right stinkers over recent years.

But yes I do agree, the right player, or mentality more like can be so useful to a young side.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on April 15, 2021, 04:40:33 PM
With Young and Barry on the team sheet, it slightly resembles a recent Villa team.

Have to wonder what we'll do in the transfer market when we've got some real talent on the way through. No point in spending £20m on someone if it's going to block the pathway of a kid like Chukwuemeka or Ramsey.

This is why this summer is a rare one where I wouldn't mind seeing us grab an older player or 2 who comes in as first choice but with the plan to phase him out over a year or 2 to be replaced by one of them. Gives them someone to learn from as well if we get the right sort of player. The problem is I can't think of anyone who'd fill the role I think we need to look for who is the right age.

That’s only good if we get the right sort of old head. Man Utd do this very well time and time again. We’ve got this so wrong and had some right stinkers over recent years.

But yes I do agree, the right player, or mentality more like can be so useful to a young side.
Another vote for Milner from me. Knows the club. Can play and advise the youngsters in several positions. Wouldn’t expect to play every game (certainly full 90).
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 15, 2021, 04:41:40 PM
Yeah if Milner is available and interested he'd be a good choice, and could cover full back as well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Goldie.7 on April 16, 2021, 07:00:55 PM
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on April 18, 2021, 01:02:14 AM
Once again, Ramsey and Chuk did well.

Disappointed with Philogene-Bidace; he did very little.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on April 18, 2021, 10:46:16 AM
Youth Cup quarters it's Newcastle away Sat 1 May 7 pm, it could clash with the Everton game, as times for TV matches for that weekend have not yet been made.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 20, 2021, 01:00:28 PM
Villa under 18s beat West Brom 6-4! We were 4-3 down and down to ten men, too.

One goal for Chukwuemeka, FOUR for Brad Jones and one, hilariously, for Louie Barry.

Not that the Villa Twitter page can be arsed to mention it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on April 20, 2021, 01:17:09 PM
Yeah i have been following the U18 match and all credit to the youth team Were a goal down to Sandwell after just five miniutes but came back to lead 3-1 with Sandwell making it 3-2 on the stroke of half time .In the first minute of the second half we had our Keeper Marshelll sent off which meant  we had to take off Chukwuemeka  for a defender We then fell 4 3  behind but this team is special and we scored three in six minutes and held on comfortably  Of course Louie Barry had to score to rub it in Well done Villa Youth
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 20, 2021, 07:18:13 PM
Brad Jones, is he the ginger fella ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on April 20, 2021, 08:21:30 PM
Brad Young is the ginger one . I did'nt realise we had to play a centre half Swinkels  in goal as the dirty bastards from Sandwell were up to their usual tricks kicking  shit out of our players By half time we had to sub Kane Kesler ,Aaron Ramsey and Chukwuemeka
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SheffieldVillain on April 20, 2021, 08:43:50 PM
Brad Young is the ginger one . I did'nt realise we had to play a centre half Swinkels  in goal as the dirty bastards from Sandwell were up to their usual tricks kicking  shit out of our players By half time we had to sub Kane Kesler ,Aaron Ramsey and Chukwuemeka

Is Young the kid who did some kind of brilliant step-over / drag back type skill to get away from a Liverpool player in our own area in the cup game?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 20, 2021, 10:23:48 PM
Brad Young is the ginger one . I did'nt realise we had to play a centre half Swinkels  in goal as the dirty bastards from Sandwell were up to their usual tricks kicking  shit out of our players By half time we had to sub Kane Kesler ,Aaron Ramsey and Chukwuemeka

Is Young the kid who did some kind of brilliant step-over / drag back type skill to get away from a Liverpool player in our own area in the cup game?

Yep. Looks like a fantastic finisher and has a decent amount of skill.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 20, 2021, 11:09:54 PM
Brad Young is the ginger one . I did'nt realise we had to play a centre half Swinkels  in goal as the dirty bastards from Sandwell were up to their usual tricks kicking  shit out of our players By half time we had to sub Kane Kesler ,Aaron Ramsey and Chukwuemeka

Is Young the kid who did some kind of brilliant step-over / drag back type skill to get away from a Liverpool player in our own area in the cup game?

Yep. Looks like a fantastic finisher and has a decent amount of skill.

He was stabbed not long ago as well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 21, 2021, 01:09:59 AM
Er...what?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 21, 2021, 05:55:44 AM
Er...what?

Struggling to simplify more for you mate lol.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Axl Rose on April 21, 2021, 07:47:51 AM
Good god, that's awful.

I'm gathering he's ok now though. Did this happen on a night out?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 21, 2021, 08:51:39 AM
Happened in Elmdon Park last summer I think.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 21, 2021, 09:29:13 AM
Happened in Elmdon Park last summer I think.
Bluenose country.
I used to mow the grass in and around Elmdon Park during the summer.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Virgil Caine on April 21, 2021, 01:42:09 PM
Come on now Mister E, surely shome mistake. Elmdon Park and surrounds were the stomping grounds of the Elmdon Reds and its multiple members. However, as the Elmdon boundaries butted onto the Cov Road, Sheldon, I daresay that you would find the odd Bluenose scuttling about, certainly in our era, 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 21, 2021, 02:52:54 PM
Come on now Mister E, surely shome mistake. Elmdon Park and surrounds were the stomping grounds of the Elmdon Reds and its multiple members. However, as the Elmdon boundaries butted onto the Cov Road, Sheldon, I daresay that you would find the odd Bluenose scuttling about, certainly in our era, 50 years ago.
True, but all I seemed to see there were the Great Unwashed.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on April 21, 2021, 05:50:16 PM
Yeah i have been following the U18 match and all credit to the youth team Were a goal down to Sandwell after just five miniutes but came back to lead 3-1 with Sandwell making it 3-2 on the stroke of half time .In the first minute of the second half we had our Keeper Marshelll sent off which meant  we had to take off Chukwuemeka  for a defender We then fell 4 3  behind but this team is special and we scored three in six minutes and held on comfortably  Of course Louie Barry had to score to rub it in Well done Villa Youth

Villa put a very strong team out, WBA missing four starters.
We fought back well and were harder to break down in the last 30mins with 10 men.
Best players -
 Aaron Ramsay went off with a bad ankle injury after 25 mins or  so, and looked bad. By far the best player on the pitch. played 10.
Brad Youngs - Vardy type, rapid, nasty edge to him, good finisher
Chuck - really good player, very forward thinking
Appiah - the organise and leader. Played CB moved to RB  but was more a high RM.
Louie Barry was pretty quiet and up against an England U18 RB.

Deserved the win.
Bodymoor Heath is fantastic.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 23, 2021, 03:43:53 PM
U23s are currently losing 3-0 away at middlesbrough after 41mins but it's a very young team with 2 trialists in the side.

I wonder if the U-18 team tomorrow is stronger with half an eye on the cup game coming up on Tuesday and a bunch of the U23 regulars are training with the seniors, if not this seems a very strange selection.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 23, 2021, 04:13:28 PM
U23s are currently losing 3-0 away at middlesbrough after 41mins but it's a very young team with 2 trialists in the side.

I wonder if the U-18 team tomorrow is stronger with half an eye on the cup game coming up on Tuesday and a bunch of the U23 regulars are training with the seniors, if not this seems a very strange selection.

I think for one of the previous rounds we did the same thing and swapped the squads around before the youth cup in preparation?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 23, 2021, 04:16:33 PM
U23s are currently losing 3-0 away at middlesbrough after 41mins but it's a very young team with 2 trialists in the side.

I wonder if the U-18 team tomorrow is stronger with half an eye on the cup game coming up on Tuesday and a bunch of the U23 regulars are training with the seniors, if not this seems a very strange selection.

I think for one of the previous rounds we did the same thing and swapped the squads around before the youth cup in preparation?

Yeah I thought that as well but even still I don't recall us gutting the side to this degree. On the game it's 4-0 now.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 23, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
We've got 1 back, 4-1 going into the last 10.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 23, 2021, 09:03:14 PM
Ashley Preece has tweeted that Chuk, JPB and Kessler were all with the seniors today so that played a part in the weakening of the U23s.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 23, 2021, 09:35:29 PM
Cash will be suspended Sunday. It would be good to see Kessler get given a game but he'll probably be on the bench.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 24, 2021, 08:23:59 AM
Yeah, surely Kessler will be on the bench on Sunday.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on April 24, 2021, 08:26:50 AM
Yeah, surely Kessler will be on the bench on Sunday.
He went off injured on Tuesday and Ramsey has apparently broke his ankle in the same game.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 24, 2021, 08:32:27 AM
Oh crap. Had heard Aaron had a bad looking injury
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dorsetvillian on April 25, 2021, 08:01:07 AM
https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/19256332.terras-aston-villa-loanee-dom-revan-impresses/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 25, 2021, 06:24:23 PM
Was Dom Revan on the list of players we're releasing? I might be imagining it but I thought we were keeping Seb and letting Dom go.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 25, 2021, 07:16:22 PM
Nope, both Revans have been retained. The players being released according to this article - https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfers-under23s-bodymoor-20328799 - are: Farr, Tait, Sohna (H), Brunt, Walker, Clarke, Guy, Burton and Rowe.

The brothers you're thinking ofmight be the Sohnas because Myles Sohna is staying.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 26, 2021, 12:49:31 PM
Yeah, it was the Sohna's I was thinking of, thanks.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on April 27, 2021, 04:54:49 PM
FA Youth Cup quarters Newcastle away is tonight KO 7pm, live on Villa TV
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: bilsim on April 27, 2021, 06:53:53 PM
You can apso watch this evenings game, free of charge, on the Newcastle YouTube page
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Goldie.7 on April 27, 2021, 07:03:03 PM
Good start.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 27, 2021, 07:09:35 PM
2-0 up after 8 mins
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: bilsim on April 27, 2021, 07:09:53 PM
More enjoyable than watching the first team at the moment
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 27, 2021, 07:31:01 PM
3-0 Chukwuemeka with the third.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 27, 2021, 07:31:50 PM
3-0 another great goal from Chukwuemeka. We really need to give this kid some game time asap.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 27, 2021, 07:41:25 PM
He’s going to be a good player is Chuckie. Big lad, puts his foot in and moves effortless with or without the ball in the middle of the park. And has no issue getting forward along with his defensive duties.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on April 27, 2021, 07:57:02 PM
1-3 half-time.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Clampy on April 27, 2021, 08:02:47 PM
3-0 another great goal from Chukwuemeka. We really need to give this kid some game time asap.

He really does look good. He was a pleasure to watch in that first half.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on April 27, 2021, 08:18:20 PM
3-0 another great goal from Chukwuemeka. We really need to give this kid some game time asap.

He really does look good. He was a pleasure to watch in that first half.

He’s quite something isn’t he? We’ve just put forty odd passes together effortlessly, it’s very impressive.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 27, 2021, 08:23:54 PM
Chukwuemeka gets a 4th.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 27, 2021, 08:26:41 PM
And now he has a hat trick. 5-1
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 27, 2021, 08:27:11 PM
5-1 - Chuky does the bizz.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on April 27, 2021, 08:27:22 PM
Hat trick for him now. 5-1.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 27, 2021, 08:28:45 PM
He's way too good for this level. Every minute we waste on Barkley when this kid should be playing is a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 27, 2021, 08:28:59 PM
Who's Villa#7?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 27, 2021, 08:32:34 PM
Who's Villa#7?

The captain, Kaine Kesler.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 27, 2021, 08:34:43 PM
Who's Villa#7?

The captain, Kaine Kesler.
Wow, looks really energetic for a lad who normally plays rightback.
I didn't recognise him from previous games.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on April 27, 2021, 08:37:10 PM
He's way too good for this level. Every minute we waste on Barkley when this kid should be playing is a missed opportunity.

Absolutely this.

We’re making this game look incredibly easy. We’re bigger, stronger, faster, and I think we’ve just broken them.

6-1.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 27, 2021, 08:37:42 PM
6-1
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 27, 2021, 08:37:58 PM
Gosh, 6-1.
from back to front.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: frank on April 27, 2021, 08:38:09 PM
It's a real pleasure to watch them. 6-1 now
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 27, 2021, 08:40:51 PM
Reddin - scorer of the sixth - looks very good.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 27, 2021, 08:41:58 PM
The future looks bright ...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 27, 2021, 08:42:17 PM
This is also without Aaron Ramsey who is injured.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 27, 2021, 08:43:25 PM
I’ll be watching this again later. What a good match and result. One of those horrible ones for Newcastle
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 27, 2021, 08:52:11 PM
Would we be one of the favourites for this competition?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 27, 2021, 08:52:21 PM
Chuk has it in him to be very special in a year or 2, needs a debut before the summer.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 27, 2021, 08:54:16 PM
Newcastle are lucky that was only 6. Villa now have scored 15 in the last two Youth Cup games.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: oldtimernow on April 27, 2021, 08:56:10 PM
excellent performance from the Babbies, well done everyone
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on April 27, 2021, 08:56:45 PM
Easy win. Impressive performance.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: frank on April 27, 2021, 08:58:40 PM
I watched on NUTV's YouTube and their commentators were very complimentary about Villa, saying we were on a different level
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: AV82EC on April 27, 2021, 08:58:48 PM
Enjoyed that, just superb but especially Carney C. Wrong decisions taken at times but it’s youth football that’s bound to happen. Some of the passing was lovely from back to front and players moving effortlessly around. Thought Barrie was a bit anonymous but his movement was causing problems off the ball.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 27, 2021, 09:03:21 PM
Baggies in the semis.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on April 27, 2021, 09:05:43 PM
Superb stuff well done the Villa boys
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 27, 2021, 09:19:26 PM
I watched on NUTV's YouTube and their commentators were very complimentary about Villa, saying we were on a different level

Yes, their co-commentator didn't pull any punches about how dominant we were with their main commentator trying to be more encouraging. :)

Chucky was outstanding, class on the ball. Bogarde at CB and Young up front also stood out for me and thought Elliot Anderson of Newcastle looked decent.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: rougegorge on April 27, 2021, 09:21:25 PM
Baggies in the semis.
Yes, a home single leg semi final, and a home final if we win.

Should be a good contest as the Baggies thrashed Spurs in the last 16 and beat Everton tonight who themselves had beaten both Man City and Chelsea.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 27, 2021, 09:33:48 PM
You can apso watch this evenings game, free of charge, on the Newcastle YouTube page

Cheers for highlighting this. Managed to get it going on my Dad's TV so that was probably the first Youth team game he's watched in its entirety since the 77-78 run. He really enjoyed getting to see some of the young kids he'd heard about so much appreciated.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 27, 2021, 09:35:36 PM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on April 27, 2021, 09:38:07 PM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
both have been linked to Man United.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 27, 2021, 09:42:12 PM
That's the spirit.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: mrfuse on April 27, 2021, 10:18:36 PM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
both have been linked to Man United.

Who?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 27, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
both have been linked to Man United.

FFS! Down with that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 27, 2021, 11:16:37 PM
Link to full game

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 27, 2021, 11:22:43 PM
Why in a game with a side kitted out in black and white would the ref and assistants be in all black?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 27, 2021, 11:30:41 PM
Most bizarre stat. 6 goals, 0 for Barry.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Neil Hawkes on April 28, 2021, 08:01:49 AM
Watched the second half and it was like watching Man City against our first team last game; only this time it was us passing around for fun & devastating in capitalising on the dominance, as witnessed by the scoreline.
The future (may be) bright!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on April 28, 2021, 09:07:46 AM
Why in a game with a side kitted out in black and white would the ref and assistants be in all black?

It was ever thus until ©1990's or thereabouts.  Referee's only had one choice...black.  When I started the shirts were 100% nylon, you'd sweat like a pig.  I think I've still got all mine from over the years.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 28, 2021, 09:11:56 AM
Very impressed with Kesler-Hayden again. Several of them look to have the potential ....
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: The Edge on April 28, 2021, 11:01:00 AM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
both have been linked to Man United.
Linked? By who the Meaning Evil? We shouldn't be taking any notice of crap media outlets who are awash with plastic supporters of the Greedy Six. It's all about the villa these days.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Monty on April 28, 2021, 11:37:17 AM
I did see in The Athletic that (reading between the lines) we promised Carney first team football and not delivering on that might prove a problem. I sort of can't understand it, given our now meaningless season, Jack's injury, Trez's injury and the general poor form of our attacking midfield, but there we are.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 28, 2021, 11:41:48 AM
In the game last night Chuk was pretty clearly playing the role we want Barkley performing (picking up the ball and driving through midfield, moving it out wide and getting into the box). Given how poorly Barkley has done that job in the last few months and that he'll be fucking off back to Chelsea in a month or so I think it would be really poor if we don't see Chuk get at least a couple of appearances now, he's clearly far too good for the level he was playing yesterday. I'd say the same with Kesler and Elmo as well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on April 28, 2021, 12:14:02 PM
In the game last night Chuk was pretty clearly playing the role we want Barkley performing (picking up the ball and driving through midfield, moving it out wide and getting into the box). Given how poorly Barkley has done that job in the last few months and that he'll be fucking off back to Chelsea in a month or so I think it would be really poor if we don't see Chuk get at least a couple of appearances now, he's clearly far too good for the level he was playing yesterday. I'd say the same with Kesler and Elmo as well.
100% agree.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 28, 2021, 12:58:49 PM
I posed this question the other day. Would we have given Jude Bellingham the time to play if he was in our academy or if we bought him in the manner Dortmund have? I don’t know that we would have. Sometimes you just need to trust what you see. It might not pan out but we already know, Barkley isn’t. McGinn and Douglas have both struggled a bit. Elmo isn’t the long term answer at RB. Give KKH and Chuckie a try. There’s really nothing to lose now
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 28, 2021, 01:59:04 PM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
both have been linked to Man United.

In related news CDBWF has been 'romantically' linked to both Maya Jama and Alex Scott.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 28, 2021, 03:11:47 PM
In the game last night Chuk was pretty clearly playing the role we want Barkley performing (picking up the ball and driving through midfield, moving it out wide and getting into the box). Given how poorly Barkley has done that job in the last few months and that he'll be fucking off back to Chelsea in a month or so I think it would be really poor if we don't see Chuk get at least a couple of appearances now, he's clearly far too good for the level he was playing yesterday. I'd say the same with Kesler and Elmo as well.
100% agree.

Me too. Deano has mentioned that it is a step up for the kids to make, but to me it looks like Chukwumenka is currently making a step down.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 28, 2021, 03:14:27 PM
I posed this question the other day. Would we have given Jude Bellingham the time to play if he was in our academy or if we bought him in the manner Dortmund have? I don’t know that we would have. Sometimes you just need to trust what you see. It might not pan out but we already know, Barkley isn’t. McGinn and Douglas have both struggled a bit. Elmo isn’t the long term answer at RB. Give KKH and Chuckie a try. There’s really nothing to lose now

Dortmund aren't the club you need to consider in this, they gave an expensive signing game time, that's no different to most clubs. It's Blues that played him as a 16 year old which is the more realistic comparison and that changes the conversation. For them he was, on debut, one of the best players in their squad and had to play because of what he was doing right then. For us bringing someone like Chuk or kessler through is as much about what we think they will be in 12-18months as it is a reward for what they're doing right now which makes the decision a lot harder for most of the season.

However with 6 games to go in a season where we're comfortably planted in midtable it should be very easy to decide to give them game time ahead of players who won't be at the club in 2months time.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 28, 2021, 03:44:45 PM
You'll never know whether we, or any other club, would have given him such an early opportunity. Probably not, but Small Heath had no option because they had nobody better available. What is definite is that he can't be compared to any of our kids because he's a once in a generation talent. He's starring in the Champions League and he's on the verge of being an England regular while still not old enough to live on his own. Good as some of ours are, they're nowhere near that level.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 28, 2021, 04:06:04 PM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
both have been linked to Man United.

In related news CDBWF has been 'romantically' linked to both Maya Jama and Alex Scott.

But in this case our boys are Maya and Alex and Man Utd are CDBWF.. (Sorry CD).
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 28, 2021, 04:32:10 PM
We might think that we're mid-table with nothing to play for but Dean has already alluded to a top-half finish triggering bonuses all-round so I don't think he'll be overly-adventurous with blooding the yoof.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 28, 2021, 04:49:04 PM
We might think that we're mid-table with nothing to play for but Dean has already alluded to a top-half finish triggering bonuses all-round so I don't think he'll be overly-adventurous with blooding the yoof.

I hear you, but it's persisting with these players that has seen us slide down the table. If Barkley was playing well it would be a different conversation.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 28, 2021, 04:55:13 PM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
both have been linked to Man United.

In related news CDBWF has been 'romantically' linked to both Maya Jama and Alex Scott.

At last. Glad to see those rumours I keep spreading have caught on.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 28, 2021, 04:56:05 PM
Imagine Grealish and Chukwuemeka linking up next year, could be really special.
both have been linked to Man United.

In related news CDBWF has been 'romantically' linked to both Maya Jama and Alex Scott.

But in this case our boys are Maya and Alex and Man Utd are CDBWF.. (Sorry CD).

There's no need to tell it like it is ☹
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 28, 2021, 07:19:40 PM
Arjan Rhaiky looks really good based on clips whenever I see him. Is he highly rated by regular yoof watchers?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on April 28, 2021, 07:28:59 PM
Wasn't he in one of Jo Nesbo's stories ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 28, 2021, 08:43:19 PM
Arjan Rhaiky looks really good based on clips whenever I see him. Is he highly rated by regular yoof watchers?

Yeah he looks good too. It's hard to tell completely as he is more of a defensive player and the games I've watched we have mostly dominated, but he looks comfortable on the ball and quite progressive with his passing.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: robleflaneur on April 28, 2021, 11:22:17 PM
With Chuk's astounding performances and Aaron Ramsey's goals,Raikhy seems to get overlooked but he also looks the real deal.He is a big lad,likes to put in a tackle but he is also adept at first time passing.Also Kesler looks like he would be better suited to a right side midfield role,pacy,knows when to release the ball , good at driving into gaps and being a right back he fulfils the defensive duties.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 29, 2021, 12:00:57 AM
Highlights of Chuckie here. He looks very, very smooth

https://twitter.com/thetalkvilla/status/1387180947402014722?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on April 29, 2021, 08:27:27 AM
I’M told the semi will potentially be at VP on Tuesday 11th or Wednesday 12th...I’ll keep my ears open.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 29, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
If we get through to the final, could it be played before a crowd? Also any chance of the semis being on telly?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 29, 2021, 09:36:52 AM
I’M told the semi will potentially be at VP on Tuesday 11th or Wednesday 12th...I’ll keep my ears open.

That sounds right as the FA website says the semi-finals have to be played by the 15th and the final by May 29th. Given our QF was played a few days before the 2 on the other side of the draw that would make sense.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on April 29, 2021, 10:14:48 AM
Highlights of Chuckie here. He looks very, very smooth

https://twitter.com/thetalkvilla/status/1387180947402014722?s=21

I'm really impressed with this lad - he looks as though he's having fun whenever he gets near the ball.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Risso on April 29, 2021, 10:28:30 AM
Highlights of Chuckie here. He looks very, very smooth

https://twitter.com/thetalkvilla/status/1387180947402014722?s=21

Why on earth aren't we giving him a try instead of Fat Ross? I know that it's a big step up gtom kids football, but he really couldn't be any worse, and who knows he might just actually do very well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 29, 2021, 12:48:30 PM
The clear sign of a good player is that thy look like they have all the time in the world to decide what they want to do, Jack had it at that age as well. I'd 100% have him ahead of Ross right now if for no other reason than to see how he copes with the step up in physicality and quality. If he finds it hard then net season he goes out to the championship for half a season to toughen him up but if he settles in and looks the part then everyone wins.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Risso on April 29, 2021, 01:13:15 PM
The clear sign of a good player is that thy look like they have all the time in the world to decide what they want to do, Jack had it at that age as well. I'd 100% have him ahead of Ross right now if for no other reason than to see how he copes with the step up in physicality and quality. If he finds it hard then net season he goes out to the championship for half a season to toughen him up but if he settles in and looks the part then everyone wins.

Agreed, I can't see what we've got to lose from having a look at him. Even if he's complete bobbins, it's giving him valuable experience of coming on and having a run at Premier League defences. That has to be more valuable than hoping against hope that on loan Barkley is magically going to come good again.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 29, 2021, 01:16:57 PM
He's training with the first team so the coaches will be able to see whether he's ready for the physicality.

While Bellingham was brought up earlier, that could be countered by the example of Foden who Pep held back for a season or two until he's only now starting to use him a lot more. It's up to the coaches to assess when a player is ready and how to bring them through. There have been cases in the past where too much has been expected too soon from a player and that player not coping well with that.

However it happens though, we've got some promising players that we can be excited about and with the significance the owners are placing on youth development at the club, it's probably only the beginning.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on April 29, 2021, 01:28:18 PM
He's training with the first team so the coaches will be able to see whether he's ready for the physicality.

While Bellingham was brought up earlier, that could be countered by the example of Foden who Pep held back for a season or two until he's only now starting to use him a lot more. It's up to the coaches to assess when a player is ready and how to bring them through. There have been cases in the past where too much has been expected too soon from a player and that player not coping well with that.

However it happens though, we've got some promising players that we can be excited about and with the significance the owners are placing on youth development at the club, it's probably only the beginning.

That's all true but no one benefits from Chuk bullying a bunch of U18s like he did the other day, he's so far ahead of that standard that he needs to be pushed to a higher level. He's been with the U23s most of the season but even there he's looked a cut above in most games. There's also the fact that his form in the last month has jumped so much that, like Kessler, he needs a chance from the bench as a reward if nothing else. For all the U23 and U18 players it would be a massive incentive if they had multiple examples of players doing well at that level and it being noted and acted upon at senior level.

Foden is actually a fantastic example though, he was similarly too good for the age group level he'd been at and was pushed up to be around the first team squad for about half a season before they started giving him appearances here and there and he'd come off the bench about 10-12 times before he turned 18. It's taken 2 more years for him to force his way into the team as a regular starter but those early appearances were an important part of the process.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on April 29, 2021, 01:55:54 PM
I think Foden would have been playing more games earlier if Man City's other options had been Barkley/El Ghazi standard.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: The Edge on April 29, 2021, 03:06:06 PM
Highlights of Chuckie here. He looks very, very smooth

https://twitter.com/thetalkvilla/status/1387180947402014722?s=21
We're going to have to retire the number 10 shirt soon.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Tayls_7 on April 29, 2021, 05:20:52 PM
What I particularly like about Chukwuemeka is when he goes down he gets back up again  :o
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 29, 2021, 05:25:36 PM
He's training with the first team so the coaches will be able to see whether he's ready for the physicality.

While Bellingham was brought up earlier, that could be countered by the example of Foden who Pep held back for a season or two until he's only now starting to use him a lot more. It's up to the coaches to assess when a player is ready and how to bring them through. There have been cases in the past where too much has been expected too soon from a player and that player not coping well with that.

However it happens though, we've got some promising players that we can be excited about and with the significance the owners are placing on youth development at the club, it's probably only the beginning.

You can hold Foden back when you have Man City’s incredible midfield that walked to the title. We have a midfielder group that is injured and/or struggling to find form. And we are safe now. I would much rather we played some of the youngsters in low pressure games than persist with Barkley or Elmo to name two.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 29, 2021, 05:40:00 PM
It would also take some of the heat off Smith, keep losing trying to get performances out of his regulars as opposed to giving some of the youngsters a go would at least look like he is building for next season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dante Lavelli on April 29, 2021, 07:43:47 PM
It would also take some of the heat off Smith, keep losing trying to get performances out of his regulars as opposed to giving some of the youngsters a go would at least look like he is building for next season.

That’s a good point.  Having Kessler and Chuck both playing might also focus the mind if the other players too, step up or risk a hammering.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on April 29, 2021, 07:59:04 PM
Must admit, I would have played Kessler the other night but that's from someone who doesn't have any pressure on them.

I think a lot of these kids will be having more competitive football next season but on loan. That was pretty clear after we appointed a loans manager and brought Jedi back to act as a liaison officer with the kids. It would be good if they can make some cameos in the meantime but the fact that they're training with the first team will set great examples for their peers and younger age groups.

Would Jacob Ramsey's development if instead of making the odd appearance for us this season, he had gone out on loan where he could have been a first team regular? Covid will no doubt have been a factor this year as kids have largely stayed local when they have gone out on loan but hopefully things can be a bit  more normal next season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on April 29, 2021, 08:58:00 PM
I’M told the semi will potentially be at VP on Tuesday 11th or Wednesday 12th...I’ll keep my ears open.

That sounds right as the FA website says the semi-finals have to be played by the 15th and the final by May 29th. Given our QF was played a few days before the 2 on the other side of the draw that would make sense.
Talk is Monday 10th or Wednesday 12th due to first team game (a) v Palace on 11th.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on April 29, 2021, 09:01:21 PM
I’M told the semi will potentially be at VP on Tuesday 11th or Wednesday 12th...I’ll keep my ears open.

That sounds right as the FA website says the semi-finals have to be played by the 15th and the final by May 29th. Given our QF was played a few days before the 2 on the other side of the draw that would make sense.
Talk is Monday 10th or Wednesday 12th due to first team game (a) v Palace on 11th.
Probably the wrong thread but will the Palace game stay on the Tuesday as the ManU game has now been switched to the Sunday ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Monty on April 30, 2021, 01:50:41 PM
The thing I love about Chukwuemeka is how purposefully he receives the ball. He's always already looking to what he wants to do before he's even controlled the thing. It's top-notch.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Drummond on April 30, 2021, 05:00:02 PM
What with 1st team squad contract extensions and this group, our future feels like it's really going somewhere.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 01, 2021, 01:26:44 PM
Liverpool (3-1 Arsenal) and Ipswich (3-2 Sheff Utd) in the other semi-final. Hopefully Villa and Ipswich renew their rivalry 40 years on in the final.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on May 02, 2021, 05:42:31 PM
Probably going to be Tuesday 11th at VP.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: BC Villain on May 04, 2021, 07:56:39 PM
Exciting times ahead I think

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1389584065389547523?s=19
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 04, 2021, 09:37:59 PM
As a Personal Trainer, I'm very jealous!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 05, 2021, 09:40:20 PM
Probably going to be Tuesday 11th at VP.

Confirmed as Friday May 14th at 6pm. https://www.thefa.com/competitions/youth-football/fa-youth-cup/fixtures
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 06, 2021, 02:04:01 AM
The game's live on BT Sport, as well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 06, 2021, 02:00:50 PM
The game's live on BT Sport, as well.

That'll make it easier for the Bayern scouts to watch Carney again before they buy him in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on May 07, 2021, 08:27:07 PM
U23's currently winning 2-0 against Newcastle despite being down to ten men.  A lad by the name of Burton went on in the 29th minute and got his marchers in the 41st with a straight red.  Young and Barry with the goals.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on May 07, 2021, 09:04:55 PM
Won 2-1.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 07, 2021, 09:28:23 PM
Young and Barry with the goals.

Was it a kids match or an old stars game?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave shelley on May 07, 2021, 09:52:45 PM
Young and Barry with the goals.

Was it a kids match or an old stars game?

It was nostalgia night; especially as we had a Brown at centre-back.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 07, 2021, 11:33:43 PM
Barrett at right back... disappointingly, for Newcastle.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 07, 2021, 11:44:05 PM
Not the first Flight of the Earls. :(
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 09, 2021, 10:01:25 AM
Trying to sign Kerr Smith a 16 year old centre-half from Dundee United for 500k. We've been linked with him since last summer and seems to be highly rated.



EDIT: Link removed.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 09, 2021, 10:14:16 AM
Trying to sign Kerr Smith a 16 year old centre-half from Dundee United for 500k. We've been linked with him since last summer and seems to be highly rated.

What have you been told about linking to the Sun?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Ads on May 09, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
Yeah saw that on Nixon's Twitter account.

This group of lads coming through seem to have a good few who might make the grade.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 10, 2021, 12:46:55 PM
Beating Man United to a youth prospect would be quite a statement of intent in the youth world.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on May 11, 2021, 07:03:45 PM
Seems the semi final is on BT on Friday.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Drummond on May 11, 2021, 07:28:18 PM
U18s beat Norwich 3-2
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 12, 2021, 02:32:50 AM
The other youth SF is on BT Sport today.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dante Lavelli on May 12, 2021, 08:22:23 PM
The other youth SF is on BT Sport today.

Saw the last couple of minutes.  Liverpool beat Ipswich 2-1.  I didn’t see enough to say if Liverpool are good or not but some of their players had beards which seemed a bit unfair.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on May 12, 2021, 08:45:45 PM
The other youth SF is on BT Sport today.

Saw the last couple of minutes.  Liverpool beat Ipswich 2-1.  I didn’t see enough to say if Liverpool are good or not but some of their players had beards which seemed a bit unfair.

Hope we can get through. After the respective first teams have each had a go against the others kids in the last couple of years be good to see the kids play each other.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 13, 2021, 02:21:02 AM
Liverpool looked a 'bigger' side than us, so we would have to be on our game to beat them, should we get through on Friday.

Without any serious injuries, of course, bearing in mind who we're playing!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on May 14, 2021, 01:52:49 PM
I've got a Directors box pass for tonight, so will report back on anything I see in the morning.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 14, 2021, 05:21:40 PM
our game is on BT Sport tonight
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 14, 2021, 05:42:32 PM
Is it on anywhere else as BT Sport is down for maintenance in Ireland? Not the best timing.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Colhint on May 14, 2021, 06:01:06 PM
Is it on anywhere else as BT Sport is down for maintenance in Ireland? Not the best timing.
check your messages
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on May 14, 2021, 06:02:19 PM
Come on the Villa babbies !
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:13:57 PM
yesssssssssssss Chuckie
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: andyh on May 14, 2021, 06:14:22 PM
He is different gravy isn’t he
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 14, 2021, 06:14:26 PM
finish !!’
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 14, 2021, 06:14:35 PM
SCOOOOOORRRRRRRRCHIOOOO!!!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on May 14, 2021, 06:16:22 PM
Booom!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 14, 2021, 06:17:41 PM
Ffs
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dave P on May 14, 2021, 06:17:43 PM
Shite. 1-1
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:17:45 PM
Boooooooooooooo 1-1
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 14, 2021, 06:18:02 PM
poor defending there Clive
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 14, 2021, 06:18:36 PM
Keeper should be having that.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: hipkiss92 on May 14, 2021, 06:19:21 PM
Keeper either needs to collect or stay on his line there. Puts the defender off.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 06:19:25 PM
Jesus that was awful defending. We scored that for them
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 14, 2021, 06:22:56 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on May 14, 2021, 06:23:48 PM
Worse than Richards and Lescott?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 14, 2021, 06:24:21 PM
Worse than Richards and Lescott?
just like Lescott and Richards. Carbon copy.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 14, 2021, 06:24:51 PM
goal!!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on May 14, 2021, 06:25:02 PM
Ouch. That bad.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on May 14, 2021, 06:25:21 PM
2-1?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:25:25 PM
Louie Barry with a screamer makes it 2-1. What a player!!!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on May 14, 2021, 06:25:42 PM
2-1?

Yep, Barry with a scorcher
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 14, 2021, 06:25:45 PM
SCOOOOOORRRRRRRRCHIOOOO!!! AGAIN!!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on May 14, 2021, 06:25:57 PM
Phew, thought it was the other way
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 14, 2021, 06:26:02 PM
amazing finish
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on May 14, 2021, 06:27:04 PM
Lovely loopy curly bender.

Boooooooooooom!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: BC Villain on May 14, 2021, 06:27:06 PM
Louie Barry with a screamer makes it 2-1. What a player!!!

Queue much teeth nashing from the bitters
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 06:27:20 PM
Swinkels is, I think, the best footballer name I've ever heard.

Oooh go'on Barry!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 06:28:42 PM
Barry has been rubbish up until now and then he just produces a world class finish. I can see why he’s not yet making the first team squad but he clearly has something
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 06:29:43 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.

Can't we just have a day off from lambasting our team? FFS!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on May 14, 2021, 06:30:42 PM
We've got to get Chukwuemeka in the first team asap. Get him on the pitch with Jack and Ollie and he won't think about leaving.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 06:32:40 PM
They look a better team than us at the moment but we have special players who can punish them
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on May 14, 2021, 06:32:56 PM
Carney just glides effortlessly across the pitch.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 14, 2021, 06:34:08 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.

Can't we just have a day off from lambasting our team? FFS!
Oh ok - so if it's bad we're not allowed to say, right?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 14, 2021, 06:34:56 PM
Carney is special. He's ace.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 06:36:39 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.

Can't we just have a day off from lambasting our team? FFS!
Oh ok - so if it's bad we're not allowed to say, right?

Perhaps say something more constructive, like, unlucky lads, lets have 'em (like we did).  They're teenagers!  Anyway......
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 14, 2021, 06:36:50 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.

Can't we just have a day off from lambasting our team? FFS!
Oh ok - so if it's bad we're not allowed to say, right?



can we have a day off without a heated debate 😳😀, some of our kids look ace 😀
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:37:14 PM
I know Louie gets a lot of attention but Brad Young is a super talent too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 14, 2021, 06:37:18 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.

Can't we just have a day off from lambasting our team? FFS!
Oh ok - so if it's bad we're not allowed to say, right?

Perhaps say something more constructive, like, unlucky lads, lets have 'em (like we did).  They're teenagers!  Anyway......
:D
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 14, 2021, 06:37:49 PM
I know Louie gets a lot of attention but Brad Young is a super talent too.
he's a big lad. quick too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:39:05 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.

Seen a lot of what? We have at first team level one of the best defences in the league and this youth team is playing a SF game. What exactly are you referring to?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 14, 2021, 06:39:47 PM
harsh yellow that
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dave P on May 14, 2021, 06:40:28 PM
This ref is trying to help the bitters as much as possible isn’t he?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Smithy on May 14, 2021, 06:40:47 PM
I know Louie gets a lot of attention but Brad Young is a super talent too.

He's a fiery little bugger, isn't he? Not seen him play before, but looks ok in this.  More involved than Barry, certainly.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Stu on May 14, 2021, 06:41:23 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.

Can't we just have a day off from lambasting our team? FFS!
Oh ok - so if it's bad we're not allowed to say, right?

They're practically children.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:41:36 PM
This young Villa team really is fun to watch
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 14, 2021, 06:41:53 PM
Perhaps say something more constructive, like, unlucky lads, lets have 'em (like we did).  They're teenagers!  Anyway......

Ha'way the lads! :)

Just need a 3rd to settle the nerves.

Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 06:42:48 PM
This young Villa team really is fun to watch

They really are! Loving this.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:43:47 PM
I know Louie gets a lot of attention but Brad Young is a super talent too.

He's a fiery little bugger, isn't he? Not seen him play before, but looks ok in this.  More involved than Barry, certainly.

Yes he doesn’t give up on things easily. Keeps chasing things down which allows Barry to get into open spaces he helps create when mistakes are forced.

I do love our full back Kesler too
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 06:44:59 PM
This young Villa team really is fun to watch

They are and this is a step up from our previous successful youth teams. They are much more comfortable with the ball
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Smithy on May 14, 2021, 06:46:22 PM
that was some of the worst defending I've ever seen, and my god we've seen a lot of that.

Can't we just have a day off from lambasting our team? FFS!
Oh ok - so if it's bad we're not allowed to say, right?

Schoolboy teams sometimes make schoolboy errors. It happens, it's the sort of mistake they have to make to learn from.  A bit of indecision between keeper and defender, both left it.  I suspect the next mistake will be both going for the same ball.  Over time and with more experience they'll learn precisely when to go for it, and when to leave it.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: VILLA MOLE on May 14, 2021, 06:49:58 PM
l like that jack is there as is the manager and assistants,
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Smithy on May 14, 2021, 06:50:44 PM
This young Villa team really is fun to watch

They are and this is a step up from our previous successful youth teams. They are much more comfortable with the ball

I think the last FA Youth Cup match I watched us play live had Wayne Rooney playing for Everton. At that time he stood out (obviously), as did Steven Davis and Luke Moore - simply because they looked SO comfortable with the ball. I'd say we've got four or five here who look as comfortable on the ball as I remember Davis looking.

Maybe the kids coming through just ARE technically better than 20 years ago - but maybe we've got a team here where three of four could become first-team players...?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:52:17 PM
l like that jack is there as is the manager and assistants,

Yep. Jack takes a real interest in the kids and as club captain and Villa fan it’s always great to see
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:53:19 PM
Louie Bazza goal

https://twitter.com/avfcfaithful_/status/1393256196774170631?s=21
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: BC Villain on May 14, 2021, 06:53:21 PM
It's borderline negligence that some of these lads haven't at least had a few minutes here and there in the first team. 
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 06:54:46 PM
This young Villa team really is fun to watch

They are and this is a step up from our previous successful youth teams. They are much more comfortable with the ball

I think the last FA Youth Cup match I watched us play live had Wayne Rooney playing for Everton. At that time he stood out (obviously), as did Steven Davis and Luke Moore - simply because they looked SO comfortable with the ball. I'd say we've got four or five here who look as comfortable on the ball as I remember Davis looking.

Maybe the kids coming through just ARE technically better than 20 years ago - but maybe we've got a team here where three of four could become first-team players...?

I loved that first leg at Goodison Park, hearing all about the new wonder-boy, Wayne Rooney - scored first, and then wasn't it 4-1 to us? I just looked this up and apparently it was 20 years ago........ gulp.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:56:53 PM
It's borderline negligence that some of these lads haven't at least had a few minutes here and there in the first team. 

I don’t think it’s that at all. They all train with the first team. They are all on long term deals. They will be integrated next year slowly. Might we have seen a bit more? I mean sure. But it’s hardly negligence.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Clampy on May 14, 2021, 06:57:47 PM
It's borderline negligence that some of these lads haven't at least had a few minutes here and there in the first team. 

A tad over the top. They're only 16-17, they will get their chance eventually.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Aldridge Villa on May 14, 2021, 06:57:50 PM
Brad Young uncanny resemblance to Ollie McBurnie, That’s where the similarity ends mind, very impressed with him first half.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on May 14, 2021, 06:57:58 PM
It has to be said that Smethwick have some pretty decent looking players too.

Really enjoying the game. Two excellent goals from us and a bit of horror show defending from a corner.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 07:03:14 PM
Brad Young uncanny resemblance to Ollie McBurnie, That’s where the similarity ends mind, very impressed with him first half.

I'm hoping not off the pitch!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dave P on May 14, 2021, 07:14:48 PM
It's borderline negligence that some of these lads haven't at least had a few minutes here and there in the first team.

I think they well have had more minutes in the first team if we weren’t still in this cup. We’ve clearly prioritised this competition.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on May 14, 2021, 07:23:29 PM
Cracking finish, from none of our players! 3-1
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Smithy on May 14, 2021, 07:23:35 PM
I think they'll get the chance when they're ready for it.  They all still look quite 'slight', and have another couple of years of growing to go yet.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2021, 07:24:10 PM
3-1 now and looks like we're in control.

Own Goal caused by Barry and Chuk.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 07:24:31 PM
That was a lovely run by Louie. Such a promising player
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Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 07:26:20 PM
Chuck and Baz are a great double act
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Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 07:27:07 PM
Cracking finish, from none of our players! 3-1

I actually felt quite sorry for him! (it soon passed....)
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Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 07:30:37 PM
Was fat Sam talking to himself there?
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Post by: mrfuse on May 14, 2021, 07:34:55 PM
Was fat Sam talking to himself there?

I just don't think you could see little Sam.
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Post by: SaddVillan on May 14, 2021, 07:36:08 PM
Probably complaining about an insufficiency of pies.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 07:37:47 PM
Fellows is a good prospect let’s take him off them
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: john e on May 14, 2021, 07:39:41 PM
Is the Final a 2 legged affair or played at a neutral venue/Wembley ?
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Post by: andyh on May 14, 2021, 07:40:11 PM
Lovely worked goal.

Goodnight vienna
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Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2021, 07:40:36 PM
4-1 Brad Young, opened them up a bit too easily there.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 07:40:49 PM
First time I’ve watched Lindley tonight, dirty little bugger I like him
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 14, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
Is the Final a 2 legged affair or played at a neutral venue/Wembley ?

One leg with the winner of this semi final at home (is over two legs normally but there's a shortened format this season).
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: john e on May 14, 2021, 07:41:52 PM
Is the Final a 2 legged affair or played at a neutral venue/Wembley ?

One leg with the winner of this semi final at home (is over two legs normally but there's a shortened format this season).

Ok thanks
Something to look forward to
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 07:42:14 PM
Bye bye bitters. Relegated and smashed by the Villa kids
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: andyh on May 14, 2021, 07:42:53 PM
Going forward, there are some special players out there.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: mrfuse on May 14, 2021, 07:43:25 PM
Is the Final a 2 legged affair or played at a neutral venue/Wembley ?

One leg with the winner of this semi final at home (is over two legs normally but there's a shortened format this season).

Final is on the 29th of May.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2021, 07:43:44 PM
Bye bye bitters. Relegated and smashed by the Villa kids

We've put 10 past them in 170 minutes at this level in the last month and we're opening them up every time we attack now.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: jwarry on May 14, 2021, 07:44:19 PM
Beautiful football!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dave P on May 14, 2021, 07:44:49 PM
We’re going to have to retire a few shirt numbers in the future.
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Post by: CT on May 14, 2021, 07:45:14 PM
Lovely performance by the boys.
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Post by: SaddVillan on May 14, 2021, 07:45:43 PM
First time I’ve watched Lindley tonight, dirty little bugger I like him

Good to see that we're not naive and are happy to mix it where required.

Very professional.
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Post by: andyh on May 14, 2021, 07:46:59 PM
Raikhy is some player
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Post by: CT on May 14, 2021, 07:47:53 PM
I believe we were taking the piss there! Delightful to see.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: john2710 on May 14, 2021, 07:48:33 PM
Other than the obvious talents, I've been really impressed by Raikhy. Everytime I've watched them he's looked really good.
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Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2021, 07:49:23 PM
Raikhy is some player

Agreed, he needs another year or 2 but he's one I'd look to loan out next year.

I really like what I've seen of Sylla who's coming on for him as well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on May 14, 2021, 07:50:03 PM
Our kids seem to be fitter  - quicker and with greater stamina - the benefits of the investment at Bodymoor paying off?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: andyh on May 14, 2021, 07:50:46 PM
It weird isn’t it, Barry gets the ball and he gets you on the edge of your seat straight away...a bit like someone else.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: andyh on May 14, 2021, 07:51:36 PM
Liquid football
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on May 14, 2021, 07:52:47 PM
Is Dewain called Jimmy?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 14, 2021, 07:52:52 PM
Should've been number 5 there.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 07:53:43 PM
Final v Liverpool at VP on 29th May by the looks of it - ticket ballot??!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 14, 2021, 07:54:11 PM
This game will be full and highlights package later. Will be an enjoyable watch.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 14, 2021, 07:55:49 PM
Well done you Villa boys. 🙂
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Post by: Villan For Life on May 14, 2021, 07:57:41 PM
There’s some players with real potential in this squad.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: LukeJames on May 14, 2021, 07:58:15 PM
Barry was superb, a very Grealish like performance. Chukwuemka just looks like he's playing miles below his standard. Also liked the big Asian lad in the middle.

Their right winger was excellent.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: john e on May 14, 2021, 07:58:16 PM
Well that was a very enjoyable watch and not just because we won
Good football all round
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on May 14, 2021, 07:58:28 PM
What an enjoyable 90 minutes that was. Great way to start the weekend.
We've got some talented kids coming through.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Jane on May 14, 2021, 07:59:08 PM
Well done you Villa boys. 🙂

Weren't bad, were they?! :)
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 14, 2021, 08:00:18 PM
Didn't watch, no BT. ☹

Was following updates on here and getting WhatsApp videos of the goals.
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on May 14, 2021, 08:02:21 PM
Great performance, some great goals. Villa made that look easy.
Well done Villa boys!
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Post by: dorsetvillian on May 14, 2021, 08:02:38 PM
Great to watch..
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Post by: Clampy on May 14, 2021, 08:06:52 PM
A pleasure to watch. Barry looks a good un.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 14, 2021, 08:08:18 PM
Get him on the bench on Sunday, please.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: rougegorge on May 14, 2021, 08:11:54 PM
That was an entertaining game and there were some really good performances.

Aside from Barry and Chukwuemeka, I was especially impressed with Raikhy and Kesler.

To be fair, the Albion also had one or two talented players as well - Fellows in particular.
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Post by: Uknowthescore on May 14, 2021, 08:14:41 PM
Really felt a feel good factor watching that. Hopefully the  final will be played in front of fans. I would definitely try and get a ticket.
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Post by: caster troy on May 14, 2021, 08:21:33 PM
Bogarde, Raikhy, Kesler, Chukwuemeka, Barry... these kids could save us an absolute fortune. Or another way of looking at it, we can spend even bigger elsewhere in the squad.
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Post by: The Edge on May 14, 2021, 08:22:50 PM
Well done lads. That was a joy to watch. There's some serious talent starting to come through. The future is bright. The future is Claret and Blue. UTV.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 14, 2021, 08:29:07 PM
Didn't see it unfortunately but sounds like an assured display.

Scousers quite impressed by our lads (you'd think they'd know already), said we're bigger physically than theirs and attack in numbers like Leeds.
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Post by: SamTheMouse on May 14, 2021, 08:33:34 PM
Well done to the kids. There are some cracking prospects in there.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Villa Lew on May 14, 2021, 08:39:55 PM
Well done the Villa boys, great stuff, bring on Liverpool.
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Post by: N'ZMAV on May 14, 2021, 08:43:56 PM
Barry and Carney look like they’re close to the first team. They’re probably a good pre-season of bulking a bit and getting fitter away from being real assets. Can’t wait.
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Post by: BC Villain on May 14, 2021, 09:20:56 PM
Some really exciting talent on show tonight.
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Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2021, 09:32:43 PM
Bogarde, Raikhy, Kesler, Chukwuemeka, Barry... these kids could save us an absolute fortune. Or another way of looking at it, we can spend even bigger elsewhere in the squad.

Revan and Young as well, add in Sinisalo, Aaron Ramsey, JPB, Archer, Dom Revan and Bridge and there's easily half a squad of teenagers at the club who look like they'll get careers in the top couple of leagues. They won't all make it everyone knows how rare it is for a big group to come through but to have so many that look like they might at the same time is very impressive.

Doesn't look like we're stopping either, with the new facilities and a scouting network thats setup to find players like Chrisene, Swinkels and Bogarde I think we're eventually where we should be with our approach to youth development.

The best bit is the entire network of scouts and coaches probably costs us £5-6m a year and there's already players in there worth more than that on their own so it's likely to be self-funded even if we only get 1-2 a year that make the first team squad.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Allan C on May 14, 2021, 09:35:23 PM
Fabulous game and result. I thought Raikey was excellent but we can be proud of them all. It been an absolute joy to watch the Villa this season despite our relatively poor form since Christmas. A Youth Cup Final appearance is the icing on the cake
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on May 14, 2021, 09:39:01 PM
Barry and Carney look like they’re close to the first team. They’re probably a good pre-season of bulking a bit and getting fitter away from being real assets. Can’t wait.

The first game of the league cup could be really interesting, I can see 5-6 of this lot getting a game in that, Chuks, Barry and Kesler are all definitely going to be involved with the seniors next year (unless they're loaned out for extra games).
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dante Lavelli on May 14, 2021, 10:11:25 PM
Louie Barry looks good but I think a loan would be better for his long term development. He still looks very small/young and I think it is better for him to be toughened up at another club where his awareness is above their level so he can continue to improve.
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Post by: manic-road on May 14, 2021, 10:12:31 PM
Chuffed for the players, it would be fantastic if fans are allowed in to watch the final
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 14, 2021, 10:23:20 PM
Revan and Young as well, add in Sinisalo, Aaron Ramsey, JPB, Archer, Dom Revan and Bridge and there's easily half a squad of teenagers at the club who look like they'll get careers in the top couple of leagues. They won't all make it everyone knows how rare it is for a big group to come through but to have so many that look like they might at the same time is very impressive.

'Class of '22' as the media won't call them as we're not Newton Heath.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: andyh on May 14, 2021, 10:55:50 PM
Barry was superb, a very Grealish like performance. Chukwuemka just looks like he's playing miles below his standard. Also liked the big Asian lad in the middle.

Their right winger was excellent.
Some of black ones were good. Too much trouble to learn the Asian ones name ?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: BC Villain on May 14, 2021, 11:12:59 PM
Bogarde, Raikhy, Kesler, Chukwuemeka, Barry... these kids could save us an absolute fortune. Or another way of looking at it, we can spend even bigger elsewhere in the squad.

At the risk of sounding like a party-pooper, I can remember the excitement surrounding the team who won the Next Gen in 2013.  Yet only Jack has established himself at the highest level from that team.  Some of these lads look terrific, but the reality is that not every one of them will make it at Premier League level.  The advantage they have is they are part of an extremely well run club that's willing to invest in youth development.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 14, 2021, 11:20:21 PM
If you'd have said that 2013 team would produce one of the best players in the world we'd all have taken that and the same applies for this team. If we do even better and produce two or three players good enough to challenge near the top of the Premier League it would be brilliant. More than that and it would be the best youth intake in our history.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 15, 2021, 12:06:24 AM
It's been reckoned that if you can get two players from a two-year cycle to make it at the level your senior team are playing at you're doing well.
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Post by: FrankyH on May 15, 2021, 12:20:06 AM
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 15, 2021, 06:46:59 AM
Bogarde, Raikhy, Kesler, Chukwuemeka, Barry... these kids could save us an absolute fortune. Or another way of looking at it, we can spend even bigger elsewhere in the squad.
agreed - and on the another hand, they could make us an absolute fortune too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: LukeJames on May 15, 2021, 07:35:28 AM
Barry was superb, a very Grealish like performance. Chukwuemka just looks like he's playing miles below his standard. Also liked the big Asian lad in the middle.

Their right winger was excellent.
Some of black ones were good. Too much trouble to learn the Asian ones name ?

Don't start with that bollocks.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on May 15, 2021, 08:54:58 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed the game last night: lots to be proud of and lots to lead us to think that the future is bright.
Apart from the obvious 2, I thought Lindsley, Raikhy and Young were stand-outs, but they all played really well.

I remember being at the 1972 FA Youth Cup Final at VP, watching Phil Thompson's Liverpool side being between by a team contained Sir Brian, John Gidman, Bobby McDonald, Jake Findlay et al: we had a very good crop that year. The first 3 represented their country: Only Phil Thompson of the Livepool side went on to have a top-level career, I think..
I also watched the year of 2002 beat BlueScouse - also a Villa team of hopefuls.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Smithy on May 15, 2021, 09:08:26 AM
It's been reckoned that if you can get two players from a two-year cycle to make it at the level your senior team are playing at you're doing well.

That would be doing ridiculously well. You would hope that by the time these lads are ready to be first-team players, they're going to have to displace players in a team that's challenging for European places.  That's a VERY high bar.  Man City won it last year, and I think it's only Liam Delap who's had so much as a sniff of a first-team appearance since then.

I think a lot of our current youth side will have careers as professional footballers (at least similar to the 7 or 8 from our 2001 winning side), but if we get two from this team to become regular first-team players for us (at the very top end of the league) I'll be absolutely delighted!

I wonder if there are any stats out there about which academy produces the most professionals across the leagues?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdward on May 15, 2021, 10:46:24 AM
Great to see Grealish and McGinn in attendance at the game. Shows how the club is really pulling in the right direction.
Just one question, who are the Little brothers? The commentators were talking about the Revans, the Gardners the Moores, and the Little brothers?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: malckennedy on May 15, 2021, 10:53:59 AM
Great to see Grealish and McGinn in attendance at the game. Shows how the club is really pulling in the right direction.
Just one question, who are the Little brothers? The commentators were talking about the Revans, the Gardners the Moores, and the Little brothers?

Brian and Alan.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on May 15, 2021, 10:58:11 AM
Great to see Grealish and McGinn in attendance at the game. Shows how the club is really pulling in the right direction.
Just one question, who are the Little brothers? The commentators were talking about the Revans, the Gardners the Moores, and the Little brothers?
Brian and Alan.
Both played in the 1972 FA Youth Cup Final.
Alan was less God-like than Brian.
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Post by: Rotterdam on May 15, 2021, 11:05:37 AM
Last night was interesting for me...there were a lot of names knocking around. First to arrive was Sir Brian Little followed by some of the first team coaching staff and U23 group. Neil Cuttler, Boateng, Mark Delaney. All came over to the WBA ‘area’ and said ‘hello’. Big Sam landed with Sammy Lee. Obviously they all seem to know each other...social distancing out of the window.
Deans and JT were next in, again they came over to welcome everyone. Both very affable. Delano enjoyed me working at WBA, but supporting Villa, ‘win win for you tonight’.
The best was yet to come for me as I had a few minutes with Jack and SJM at half time, both really good lads. They enjoyed seeing my young lads in Villa kits with ‘Grealish’ and ‘McGinn’ on the back. SJM particularly enjoyed ‘the wee man’. Jack commented that he hadn’t focused much on education while in the Academy system...SJM said ‘you can tell’. I have to admit, I was a bit start struck.

The game was dominated by Villa and Big Sam commentated for anyone round him throughout the whole game. He particularly liked ‘the 10’ for Villa and his runs forward.

Smithy is correct with the success rate, if one or two make the first team regularly in the next couple of years, we would have done well. The rest will make a decent fist of it in the lower leagues.
A lot of lower league clubs see kids graduate to the first team, the issue Cat 2 or 3 players have is if they are released its very difficult to be picked up and you return to grassroots. At Cat 1 clubs, if you are released there’s a chance you’ll be picked up by a lower level club. What i have learnt in the last 6 months is it is a brutally tough business. Kids are offered 2 and 3 year contracts, others are told ‘no thanks’ and although help and support is offered, they are naturally devastated. We had two who simply disengaged from training and education when told. It’s like splitting up from your first girlfriend...the love of your life.
Agents are also heavily involved, demanding better contracts and signing fees (for a 17/18 year old). They also promise the lads the earth, ‘you’ve been released by XXX, no problem, I’ve got you a trial period at West Ham, Watford, Palace...’. One of our boys is expecting to fly to the US for trials at Inter Miami, because his agent has said ‘they’re interested’. The boy has barely played during his two year scholarship, a sub appearance here and there.
It’s tough. For every Captain Jack, there are hundreds on the other side of the fence.
 
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dante Lavelli on May 15, 2021, 11:11:01 AM
Off topic, but Chelsea’s transfer ban has probably set them up for the next few years.  Mount and Reece are established in their first team with Tammy, Christiansen, Gilmor also in and around the first team.  I doubt they’d have got their chance if Frank could’ve signed a mountain of players in his first season too.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 15, 2021, 11:33:19 AM
It's been reckoned that if you can get two players from a two-year cycle to make it at the level your senior team are playing at you're doing well.

That would be doing ridiculously well. You would hope that by the time these lads are ready to be first-team players, they're going to have to displace players in a team that's challenging for European places.  That's a VERY high bar.  Man City won it last year, and I think it's only Liam Delap who's had so much as a sniff of a first-team appearance since then.

I think a lot of our current youth side will have careers as professional footballers (at least similar to the 7 or 8 from our 2001 winning side), but if we get two from this team to become regular first-team players for us (at the very top end of the league) I'll be absolutely delighted!

I wonder if there are any stats out there about which academy produces the most professionals across the leagues?

It used to be us about fifteen or so years ago. Incidentally, when I said playing at our level I meant in the Premier League and I don't that's too much to ask given the investment we're making. In any case it was Sammy Morgan who said that to me and if anyone wants to disagree with him, good luck.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 15, 2021, 11:34:08 AM
Great to see Grealish and McGinn in attendance at the game. Shows how the club is really pulling in the right direction.
Just one question, who are the Little brothers? The commentators were talking about the Revans, the Gardners the Moores, and the Little brothers?
Brian and Alan.
Both played in the 1972 FA Youth Cup Final.
Alan was less God-like than Brian.

Perhaps most famous for helping York City win 3-0 at Old Trafford in the League Cup as a manager.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: The Edge on May 15, 2021, 11:40:30 AM
Last night was interesting for me...there were a lot of names knocking around. First to arrive was Sir Brian Little followed by some of the first team coaching staff and U23 group. Neil Cuttler, Boateng, Mark Delaney. All came over to the WBA ‘area’ and said ‘hello’. Big Sam landed with Sammy Lee. Obviously they all seem to know each other...social distancing out of the window.
Deans and JT were next in, again they came over to welcome everyone. Both very affable. Delano enjoyed me working at WBA, but supporting Villa, ‘win win for you tonight’.
The best was yet to come for me as I had a few minutes with Jack and SJM at half time, both really good lads. They enjoyed seeing my young lads in Villa kits with ‘Grealish’ and ‘McGinn’ on the back. SJM particularly enjoyed ‘the wee man’. Jack commented that he hadn’t focused much on education while in the Academy system...SJM said ‘you can tell’. I have to admit, I was a bit start struck.

The game was dominated by Villa and Big Sam commentated for anyone round him throughout the whole game. He particularly liked ‘the 10’ for Villa and his runs forward.

Smithy is correct with the success rate, if one or two make the first team regularly in the next couple of years, we would have done well. The rest will make a decent fist of it in the lower leagues.
A lot of lower league clubs see kids graduate to the first team, the issue Cat 2 or 3 players have is if they are released its very difficult to be picked up and you return to grassroots. At Cat 1 clubs, if you are released there’s a chance you’ll be picked up by a lower level club. What i have learnt in the last 6 months is it is a brutally tough business. Kids are offered 2 and 3 year contracts, others are told ‘no thanks’ and although help and support is offered, they are naturally devastated. We had two who simply disengaged from training and education when told. It’s like splitting up from your first girlfriend...the love of your life.
Agents are also heavily involved, demanding better contracts and signing fees (for a 17/18 year old). They also promise the lads the earth, ‘you’ve been released by XXX, no problem, I’ve got you a trial period at West Ham, Watford, Palace...’. One of our boys is expecting to fly to the US for trials at Inter Miami, because his agent has said ‘they’re interested’. The boy has barely played during his two year scholarship, a sub appearance here and there.
It’s tough. For every Captain Jack, there are hundreds on the other side of the fence.
Sorry i must have missed something. In what capacity was you at the game? Sounds like you had a great time.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on May 15, 2021, 11:48:26 AM
I work in the academy at WBA.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Axl Rose on May 15, 2021, 11:52:54 AM
I work in the academy at WBA.

Really interesting report that, mate. Thank you for posting!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 15, 2021, 11:55:54 AM
Interesting, thanks Rotterdam. How is it decided who is category 1, 2 and 3? Is it to do with results, so you can be promoted and relegated to/from other categories? Or is it based on how much you spend on youth development or what division the first team play in?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: The Edge on May 15, 2021, 12:17:47 PM
I work in the academy at WBA.
Nice. My mates son came through the Academy at WBA he's Villa and always spoke very highly of the set up there. I really enjoyed last night's game there's some real talent around on both sides. Great to see.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on May 15, 2021, 12:42:17 PM
I work in the academy at WBA.
My son coached for a couple of years at the Leeds academy. I can certainly corroborate your last paragraph: the highly-inflated ambitions and the hard bump that many experience as reality bites.
Thanks for sharing last night's experience with us. I thought both sides looked really good, and it took some class from Barry and Chuk for us to make the difference.
I liked the look of WBA's Rico Richards and the two CB Taylor and Ashworth.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Clampy on May 15, 2021, 12:57:04 PM
Interesting read Rotterdam, thanks.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on May 15, 2021, 01:37:53 PM
I work in the academy at WBA.
My son coached for a couple of years at the Leeds academy. I can certainly corroborate your last paragraph: the highly-inflated ambitions and the hard bump that many experience as reality bites.
Thanks for sharing last night's experience with us. I thought both sides looked really good, and it took some class from Barry and Chuk for us to make the difference.
I liked the look of WBA's Rico Richards and the two CB Taylor and Ashworth.

Ashworth is the eldest son of dan Ashworth, ex-FA and currently at BHA. Decent left back and makeshift CB.
Taylor is son of Martin Taylor. He was on the bench v Arsenal last Sunday and may get a go in the last three games. Sam A really likes him.
Iroegbunam the 8, is another to have a good chance.
Richards is on a four year deal signed on his 17th birthday.
Fellows the RW another with a promising future.

Categories for Academies are dictated to by facilities and staffing. Clubs have to apply to the FA. The club academies U18 and U23 then play in one of either the North or South league, the Cat also helps dictate the sphere of influence the academy has, eg how far they can cast the net for players. Rumour has it Villa are potentially involved with Shrewsbury, so increasing the range.
It’s well noted Villa academy has recruited very aggressively in the last 18mths. Lots of dosh spent.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 15, 2021, 02:37:25 PM
Villa are potentially involved with Shrewsbury, so increasing the range.
It’s well noted Villa academy has recruited very aggressively in the last 18mths. Lots of dosh spent.

Presumably we also have a decent working relationship with Exeter should a gem be uncovered in the South-West.

On the West Brom forum they really only rated Fellows from their side and Carney and Barry from ours.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on May 15, 2021, 03:36:13 PM
Paul Appiah is the player I liked having seen him for Villa twice times this year. He’s big strong and can play either CB or RB.
Villa were also missing Ramsay Jnr. Who is also class.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Mister E on May 15, 2021, 04:38:51 PM
Paul Appiah is the player I liked having seen him for Villa twice times this year. He’s big strong and can play either CB or RB.
Villa were also missing Ramsay Jnr. Who is also class.
I said earlier that I thought Lindley, Raikhy and Young have looked good on the few occasions I've watched them this season.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: fredm on May 15, 2021, 04:45:32 PM
Thought Young reminded me of Andy Weimann the way he chased down defenders and generally harried them.  Having someone like that up top makes it easier for Barry and Chuk (sp) to find space.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Dante Lavelli on May 15, 2021, 05:28:01 PM
It’s well noted Villa academy has recruited very aggressively in the last 18mths. Lots of dosh spent.

How is that viewed from inside the game?  And, in your opinion, are they spending it well?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Smithy on May 15, 2021, 07:07:50 PM
Last night was interesting for me...there were a lot of names knocking around. First to arrive was Sir Brian Little followed by some of the first team coaching staff and U23 group. Neil Cuttler, Boateng, Mark Delaney. All came over to the WBA ‘area’ and said ‘hello’. Big Sam landed with Sammy Lee. Obviously they all seem to know each other...social distancing out of the window.
Deans and JT were next in, again they came over to welcome everyone. Both very affable. Delano enjoyed me working at WBA, but supporting Villa, ‘win win for you tonight’.
The best was yet to come for me as I had a few minutes with Jack and SJM at half time, both really good lads. They enjoyed seeing my young lads in Villa kits with ‘Grealish’ and ‘McGinn’ on the back. SJM particularly enjoyed ‘the wee man’. Jack commented that he hadn’t focused much on education while in the Academy system...SJM said ‘you can tell’. I have to admit, I was a bit start struck.

The game was dominated by Villa and Big Sam commentated for anyone round him throughout the whole game. He particularly liked ‘the 10’ for Villa and his runs forward.

Smithy is correct with the success rate, if one or two make the first team regularly in the next couple of years, we would have done well. The rest will make a decent fist of it in the lower leagues.
A lot of lower league clubs see kids graduate to the first team, the issue Cat 2 or 3 players have is if they are released its very difficult to be picked up and you return to grassroots. At Cat 1 clubs, if you are released there’s a chance you’ll be picked up by a lower level club. What i have learnt in the last 6 months is it is a brutally tough business. Kids are offered 2 and 3 year contracts, others are told ‘no thanks’ and although help and support is offered, they are naturally devastated. We had two who simply disengaged from training and education when told. It’s like splitting up from your first girlfriend...the love of your life.
Agents are also heavily involved, demanding better contracts and signing fees (for a 17/18 year old). They also promise the lads the earth, ‘you’ve been released by XXX, no problem, I’ve got you a trial period at West Ham, Watford, Palace...’. One of our boys is expecting to fly to the US for trials at Inter Miami, because his agent has said ‘they’re interested’. The boy has barely played during his two year scholarship, a sub appearance here and there.
It’s tough. For every Captain Jack, there are hundreds on the other side of the fence.
 

I don't think it's anything new (I mean the disappointment for the vast majority of kids who come through top-flight youth systems).  Two lads from my year at school came through at Villa in the same year as Ricky Scimeca - he was the only one that 'made it'.   One of them spent about two years in the lower leagues, the other spent a couple of years playing in Australia I believe - but that was it.

I also spent three years playing with a lad who came through the Leeds academy (he was on the bench when they beat Man Utd's in the FA Youth Cup, the team with Nevilles, Scholes Beckham etc).  I'm sure he said Noel Whelan was the only one of that side that had a decent top-flight career, and only a couple of others played professionally at all.

I'm sure it's hugely disappointing for the kids themselves, but I would hope that these days the clubs are doing much more to prepare the kids if football doesn't ultimately provide them with a living.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Rotterdam on May 15, 2021, 07:08:59 PM
Locally, Villa are as popular as the proverbial pork chop at a bar mitzvah. The academy hierarchy are recruiting the best players from around the area; they been likened with ‘captain Birdseye, trawling the waters of the West Midlands for players’. Talk is they are considering ‘A’ and ‘B’ teams are certain age groups. The current U18s have more or less two teams as it is.
I’ve been shocked by the alleged money which flies around. Agents approaching U12/13 lads and parents. One coach I know said its ‘like legalised child exploitation’...I’m no way suggesting Villa or WBA are involved. I’m well away from that area. But signing fees, agent fees, parental ‘costs’ exist in academy footy.
We’ve spent around £6m on the team, buildings and infrastructure, which should bare fruit in the future. As suggested earlier, if three or maybe four can break through...that’s an absolute steal.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 15, 2021, 07:09:24 PM
Chukwuemeka and Barry looked like they had the sort of understanding with eachother that you see in top players. It will be nice to see that develop into a first team understanding.

Thanks for the report Rotterdam, interesting reading.

Other clubs stockpile talent and sell them on for good money, even if they don't fully breakthrough and become regulars. How much will Abraham go if they sell him this summer. That would be a good place to get to if we cherry pick the best for us and then loan and eventually sell others who can be good players for other clubs and we just don't happen to have a place for them.

Really encouraged to see what the club are doing at youth level.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Smithy on May 15, 2021, 07:21:57 PM
Chukwuemeka and Barry looked like they had the sort of understanding with eachother that you see in top players. It will be nice to see that develop into a first team understanding.

Thanks for the report Rotterdam, interesting reading.

Other clubs stockpile talent and sell them on for good money, even if they don't fully breakthrough and become regulars. How much will Abraham go if they sell him this summer. That would be a good place to get to if we cherry pick the best for us and then loan and eventually sell others who can be good players for other clubs and we just don't happen to have a place for them.

Really encouraged to see what the club are doing at youth level.

Now you mention it, the financial aspect is interesting, especially if 'financial fair play' continues to be a thing - I'm guessing a homegrown player sold for a reasonable amount is about as good for FFP numbers as it's possible to be?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 15, 2021, 07:31:44 PM
Well, you only need to see how expensive English players and players who have adopted to English football are. As a club we could make a lot of money from a thriving academy, as well as having a young core of players that can enhance our own development.

Developing an inner city academy potentially hints at the way the owners are thinking. Who's to say they plan to stop there?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Smithy on May 15, 2021, 07:43:46 PM
Well, you only need to see how expensive English players and players who have adopted to English football are. As a club we could make a lot of money from a thriving academy, as well as having a young core of players that can enhance our own development.

Developing an inner city academy potentially hints at the way the owners are thinking. Who's to say they plan to stop there?

That's true - £6m spent on the academy sounds like a lot of money, but when you think about what that sort of money buys you in terms of playing talent, it's practically nothing.  One decent player coming through (whether they are sold for £6m, or are getting a regular spot in the side) makes that investment 100% worthwhile.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 15, 2021, 09:33:01 PM
That's the upfront investment, the running costs will be much less. A good chunk of that £6m wil just be the Bodymoor Heath upgrade and we got a chunk from selling part of the land for HS2. The owners had clearly identified the potential of this area before they had even bought the club.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: SaddVillan on May 17, 2021, 01:30:51 PM
And another prospect "poached"  from a lower league club's academy. Although from the comments, this sounds quite amicable.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/kyrie-pierre-aston-villa-transfer-20612904#ICID=Android_BMNewsApp_AppShare
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 17, 2021, 05:28:12 PM
A bit more on the deal. https://theathletic.com/news/aston-villa-kyrie-pierre-transfer/EeJCd1f5K47v
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on May 18, 2021, 10:14:03 AM
Do we know when the final will be? The Villa site has this down for 7pm on the 29th, at Bodymoor Heath. The FA site says the game will happen 'before the 29th of May' but then lists it as 7pm on the 29th also 'subject to TV selections and replays.' The Liverpool site has it as TBC.

I'm sceptical about the 29th at that time as it clashes with the Champions League Final so if BT sport are going to show the youth cup I'd expect it to be on at a different time.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on May 18, 2021, 10:35:39 AM
Do we know when the final will be? The Villa site has this down for 7pm on the 29th, at Bodymoor Heath. The FA site says the game will happen 'before the 29th of May' but then lists it as 7pm on the 29th also 'subject to TV selections and replays.' The Liverpool site has it as TBC.

I'm sceptical about the 29th at that time as it clashes with the Champions League Final so if BT sport are going to show the youth cup I'd expect it to be on at a different time.

I think that time slot is the latest the game can be played by so they're just waiting to agree the scheduling with BT. It also won't be at BMH, it'll be at Villa Park, being on TV will require that. Fans are allowed as well so I expect the decision pretty soon.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on May 18, 2021, 10:39:33 AM
Do we know when the final will be? The Villa site has this down for 7pm on the 29th, at Bodymoor Heath. The FA site says the game will happen 'before the 29th of May' but then lists it as 7pm on the 29th also 'subject to TV selections and replays.' The Liverpool site has it as TBC.

I'm sceptical about the 29th at that time as it clashes with the Champions League Final so if BT sport are going to show the youth cup I'd expect it to be on at a different time.

I think that time slot is the latest the game can be played by so they're just waiting to agree the scheduling with BT. It also won't be at BMH, it'll be at Villa Park, being on TV will require that. Fans are allowed as well so I expect the decision pretty soon.

Makes sense, thanks.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brend'Watkins on May 18, 2021, 10:54:49 AM
Thought Young reminded me of Andy Weimann the way he chased down defenders and generally harried them.  Having someone like that up top makes it easier for Barry and Chuk (sp) to find space.


I thought that too and like Wimann not quite good enough for the top level.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: FailsworthVillan on May 18, 2021, 11:10:15 AM
Do we know when the final will be? The Villa site has this down for 7pm on the 29th, at Bodymoor Heath. The FA site says the game will happen 'before the 29th of May' but then lists it as 7pm on the 29th also 'subject to TV selections and replays.' The Liverpool site has it as TBC.

I'm sceptical about the 29th at that time as it clashes with the Champions League Final so if BT sport are going to show the youth cup I'd expect it to be on at a different time.
Monday 24th. 1945 ko at Villa Park. Will be broadcast live in BT.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dorsetvillian on May 18, 2021, 11:16:53 AM
I wonder how tickets will be distributed?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on May 18, 2021, 11:17:05 AM
Do we know when the final will be? The Villa site has this down for 7pm on the 29th, at Bodymoor Heath. The FA site says the game will happen 'before the 29th of May' but then lists it as 7pm on the 29th also 'subject to TV selections and replays.' The Liverpool site has it as TBC.

I'm sceptical about the 29th at that time as it clashes with the Champions League Final so if BT sport are going to show the youth cup I'd expect it to be on at a different time.
Monday 24th. 1945 ko at Villa Park. Will be broadcast live in BT.
Spectators allowed ?
Edit. Found it now. TBC.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Drummond on May 18, 2021, 11:50:36 AM
That's on too late.

To keep younger kids interested it needs to be on earlier. The Semi was on at a decent time and it meant I could let my kids watch it; I think they were more interested in that match than first team games.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on May 18, 2021, 11:56:24 AM
Do we know when the final will be? The Villa site has this down for 7pm on the 29th, at Bodymoor Heath. The FA site says the game will happen 'before the 29th of May' but then lists it as 7pm on the 29th also 'subject to TV selections and replays.' The Liverpool site has it as TBC.

I'm sceptical about the 29th at that time as it clashes with the Champions League Final so if BT sport are going to show the youth cup I'd expect it to be on at a different time.

I think that time slot is the latest the game can be played by so they're just waiting to agree the scheduling with BT. It also won't be at BMH, it'll be at Villa Park, being on TV will require that. Fans are allowed as well so I expect the decision pretty soon.

Makes sense, thanks.

When I said pretty soon I didn't expect it to be announced about 25minutes later!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on May 18, 2021, 12:01:05 PM
Do we know when the final will be? The Villa site has this down for 7pm on the 29th, at Bodymoor Heath. The FA site says the game will happen 'before the 29th of May' but then lists it as 7pm on the 29th also 'subject to TV selections and replays.' The Liverpool site has it as TBC.

I'm sceptical about the 29th at that time as it clashes with the Champions League Final so if BT sport are going to show the youth cup I'd expect it to be on at a different time.

I think that time slot is the latest the game can be played by so they're just waiting to agree the scheduling with BT. It also won't be at BMH, it'll be at Villa Park, being on TV will require that. Fans are allowed as well so I expect the decision pretty soon.

Makes sense, thanks.

When I said pretty soon I didn't expect it to be announced about 25minutes later!

Ha ha, maybe this thread was the prompt they needed!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Drummond on May 18, 2021, 12:47:49 PM
From Smith's presser today.

“It’s certainly difficult to manage because of the quality of the teams we’re playing.

“We’ve got some quality young players, probably tomorrow will be the best chance because come Sunday (against Chelsea) they’ve got an FA Youth Cup Final on the Monday. I’ll certainly want the players to play in that.

“It gives us an opportunity to look at things tomorrow, that’s for sure.”

Hopefully we'll see a couple then...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: paul_e on May 18, 2021, 01:30:43 PM
From Smith's presser today.

“It’s certainly difficult to manage because of the quality of the teams we’re playing.

“We’ve got some quality young players, probably tomorrow will be the best chance because come Sunday (against Chelsea) they’ve got an FA Youth Cup Final on the Monday. I’ll certainly want the players to play in that.

“It gives us an opportunity to look at things tomorrow, that’s for sure.”

Hopefully we'll see a couple then...

Interesting, Kesler and Chuk would be the 2 most likely to get some time and maybe JPB as well.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 18, 2021, 03:21:40 PM
Has JPB been involved in the FA Youth Cup? He hasn't from what I've seen which would allow him to be involved against Chelsea.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: caster troy on May 18, 2021, 04:23:34 PM
Has JPB been involved in the FA Youth Cup? He hasn't from what I've seen which would allow him to be involved against Chelsea.

I think he's too old to qualify now.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Lsvilla on May 19, 2021, 12:06:21 PM
Just got two tix for Monday. They went on sale at 12. 4750 only first come first served to those that didn’t get Chelsea tix. Now off to Warwick races - first outdoor event since forever. Hope it’s a lucky omen !
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: frank black on May 19, 2021, 12:19:45 PM
Yes!! Can’t wait
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on May 19, 2021, 12:48:40 PM


Just got us three, after missing out in the Chelsea ballot i'm chuffed to buggery.

Bit of an odd kick off time but i guess they wanted to use the floodlights etc.

C'mon me babbies!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Three Spires Villa on May 19, 2021, 12:55:29 PM
So I missed out v Chelsea and my lad was very unhappy, but just secured tickets for the Youth cup final with the mates I normally go down with. Be great to get back in VP. My son will will be very happy when he gets back from school, a present for finishing his GCSEs

Up the Young Villa Lads!!!!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 19, 2021, 12:59:27 PM
Up the Young Villa Lads!!!!

Sounds a bit odd but know what you mean.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Three Spires Villa on May 19, 2021, 01:40:02 PM
Up the Young Villa Lads!!!!

Sounds a bit odd but know what you mean.

Maybe that says more about you!!!!! Its not a carry on film  ;) :D
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on May 21, 2021, 01:54:44 PM
Will Ramsey Middle-Son be fit for the final?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 21, 2021, 02:06:40 PM
Will Ramsey Middle-Son be fit for the final?

Is that Aaron? If so, I think he has a long-term injury.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 21, 2021, 02:45:38 PM
Broken ankle.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: pooligan on May 21, 2021, 02:48:04 PM
Aaron Ramsey  has not played since the Bitters crippled him in a U18 match  a couple of months ago Another villa player put out of action by the butchers of Sandwell
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on May 21, 2021, 03:40:43 PM
Shit...must have missed that news. Any idea when he'll be back? He looked next in line after Chucky.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 22, 2021, 07:28:56 AM
Had a quick look on Ayr United's Forum and a lot of their fans seem to think that GK Sinisalo has been their POTY, so more promising signs.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Legion on May 22, 2021, 04:23:59 PM
I believe Vassilev has not impressed much at Cheltenham Town. CT might be able to provide better insight.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: CT on May 22, 2021, 07:38:39 PM
I believe Vassilev has not impressed much at Cheltenham Town. CT might be able to provide better insight.

From what I’m told, hasn’t made much of an impact at all. 12 games, mainly as a sub, no goals.

Shame, he was looking decent in his cameos for us, the Watford home game especially.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on May 23, 2021, 07:14:16 PM
And now a Youth Cup final to go and win.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on May 23, 2021, 10:42:20 PM
What are the dates/times on the Youth Cup Final - is it two legs?
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 23, 2021, 10:44:02 PM
One leg, tomorrow night at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: eamonn on May 23, 2021, 10:46:02 PM
Ta, just seen the main thread!
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 25, 2021, 01:07:56 AM
Looks like Aaron Ramsey has recovered from his broken ankle pretty quickly...
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 05, 2021, 11:37:59 PM
We're also after the England U-16 skipper, Josh Feeney, who's a central defender. Get him in.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/a-player-with-vast-amounts-of-potential-efl-teenager-faces-aston-villa-man-united-decision-the-verdict/
https://weallfollowunited.com/2021/06/06/manchester-united-in-the-fray-for-fleetwood-town-starlet-josh-feeney/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: OCD on June 06, 2021, 01:26:53 PM
We're becoming the top club to go to if you're one of the most sort after young talents. Fantastic seeing what our youth team is becoming.
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 17, 2021, 07:38:03 PM
Looks positive wrt Feeney. https://todayuknews.com/us-news/aston-villa-poised-to-sign-josh-feeney-despite-man-utd-interest/
Title: Re: Reserves and Academy 2020-21
Post by: nigel on June 18, 2021, 10:49:39 PM
Looks positive wrt Feeney. https://todayuknews.com/us-news/aston-villa-poised-to-sign-josh-feeney-despite-man-utd-interest/

Interesting that his agent is the same as Ashley Young
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