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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Flin5tone on March 10, 2020, 11:36:59 PM
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Here we go this feels like the Dark old Days and History repeating itself.
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/aston-villa/2020/03/10/exclusive-danny-drinkwaters-aston-villa-future-in-doubt-after-midfielder-involved-in-training-ground-bust-up/
There's a reason Chelsea and Burnley didn't want him
Purslow/Suso Out
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Doubt it, it's a school night. They'll be in bed.
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Should that not read Drinkwater/Jota out?
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Doubt it, it's a school night. They'll be in bed.
Dreaming of taking us to Europe and being an elite club again with Borja Baston?
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Well, depends who is at fault. The article suggests Drinkwater, as he is the one they say is looking at a large fine.
If he is guilty, and obviously proper investigations should be made, I'd like to fuck him off back to Chelsea.
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Doubt it, it's a school night. They'll be in bed.
Dreaming of taking us to Europe and being an elite club again with Borja Baston?
Sleeping on beds made of money with beautiful women I suspect.
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Should that not read Drinkwater/Jota out?
Not if one was the aggressor and the other wasn't.
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Well, depends who is at fault. The article suggests Drinkwater, as he is the one they say is looking at a large fine.
If he is guilty, and obviously proper investigations should be made, I'd like to fuck him off back to Chelsea.
I'd fuck him off anyway.
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Good call.
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The club lost me on Drinkwater - Ireland redux, a massive mistake.
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The club lost me on Drinkwater - Ireland redux, a massive mistake.
A massive mistake to add to the pile of other massive mistakes this past 10 months.
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I'd love to know who thought DD was a good idea. I don't think anyone I speak to about us thought it would work, and it hasn't.
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Why is Drinkwater and Jota at the club? who was responsible for bringing them in, savvy bit of business that was, get rid of them, the management and whoever thinks they are doing a fantastic job of sourcing our playing staff.
What this comes down to is precisely what we witnessed being played out on the park Monday night. players don't care, the management has lost the dressing room, get rid.
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I genuinely thought Jota had gone to Fulham.
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I genuinely thought Jota had gone to Fulham.
I try to forget he exists.
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(https://i.ibb.co/ck8ty5J/3-ACA06-A7-1267-43-A5-A790-AC7-A29585-D71.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ck8ty5J)
Poor Jota.
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There's precious little spirit in the camp at the moment as it is, and this twat thinks it's therefore the perfect time to have a training ground dust up. What a 24 carat, grade A throbber he really is. And a massively shit, unfit player to boot. Disgrace.
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I can understand the logic behind bringing Reina in, even if it proves not to work. He seems to have been a model pro for most of his career so the thinking may have been that he would improve team morale, as well as filling a need for an extra goalkeeper given the injuries to Heaton and Steer.
Drinkwater, not so much. He left a team where he could have been regarded as an all-time great to collect a pay rise and sit on the bench elsewhere. Since then, he has hardly played but has been in the press for twattery numerous times. Nothing he has done since leaving Leicester would convince anyone he would be anything other than useless on the pitch, and poison in the dressing room. And so it seems to have turned out.
An utterly stupid signing, and not one that only looks bad in hindsight. I don't know a single person who was pleased that he joined Villa. Actually, that's a lie. One colleague was delighted.
He's a Chelsea fan.
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I'm sure training ground flare ups happen quite regularly, but head butting somebody is a premediated act of pure thuggery, the sign of an absolute scumbag. No surprise it was Drinkwater, he's just an irredeemable scrote off the highest order. I'd rather see Steve Hodge play for us again than him to be honest. He'd probably be fitter, in any case.
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The dumbest thing about this signing was that after the first game, when it was obvious he was light years from match fitness, we continued to play him. He contributed absolutely nothing apart from giving a couple of goals away. The idea that in a relegation struggle we could afford to carry an unfit player while he got match fit in the hope - rather than knowledge - that he would get back to his very best was staggeringly dumb.
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I would like to know who thought that recruiting this unprofessional sack of shite was a good idea.
Then I would like them to leave the club immediately.
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Hopefully, this incident if correct can bring this whole sorry tale to an end. Then we can start to forget that Danny Drinkwater ever crossed paths with Aston Villa.
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Just when we need everyone pulling together this happens we really need togetherness in the squad.
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Pity they can't show more fight on the pitch
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they'd all still end up losing
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Probably something Jota said on his first day at BMH. Drinky’s just got around to nutting him for it.
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Can we be sure it was intentional, and not just a mistimed header?
From the Spurs game?
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Looking on the Brightside :-
1. He's not eligible to play against his parent club on Saturday
2. Chelsea could take him home on the team coach and save us a bit of petrol
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Looking on the Brightside :-
1. He's not eligible to play against his parent club on Saturday
2. Chelsea could take him home on the team coach and save us a bit of petrol
Point 2 is a great idea.
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Seems official now:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51832377 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51832377)
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If this is the case he should be terminated immediately.
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If this is the case he should be terminated immediately.
Blimey...are we allowed to do that?
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Seems official now:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51832377 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51832377)
Having just read that article I find it just unbelievable, he has three caps?
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On the whole the new owners have spent money on truly awful players. And then been poorly coached and managed.
Another route and branch clear out is needed ASAP.
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Doesn't seem a united camp at the moment. I'd guess we're not integrating some of the foreign players too well (going by Guilbert as an example, and our 'previous'). On the pitch, no one seems to have much of a connection. Everytime something goes against us, everyone looks at their feet and probably wonders why they're playing with a bunch of shite. Some of our players even seem to have lost any self belief in what they do too. All too often Targett and Guilbert look like they can't hack it or wonder how on Earth they're playing week in week out in the Premiership (Guilbert even said so). Other players look clueless. Mings seems frustrated by what's around him, despite the fact he's made as many errors as any one. Pepe looks like he knows he should have retired. Grealish has run out of steam because carrying a whole team must have weighed on him. I think he's counting the minutes until he can leave, and if we go down he may feel like he can do so with less guilt about it.
We need 11 John McGinns right now, but we've not even got one.
Piss like Drinkwater doesn't help. Again, woeful signing.
We could have done with players like Hutton, Whelan and Jedinak this season. 30 minutes here, 30 there, but a positive influence in the dressing room. We never replaced their attitude and experience.
Samatta I like because he seems properly excited to be playing here, but we're wearing the poor bugger down. Beating every fibre of positivity out of him.
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Certainly the lack of real experience has cost us dear - but he three players you name check wouildn't have made one iota of difference. We got rid for a reason .
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If this is the case he should be terminated immediately.
Blimey...are we allowed to do that?
Absolutely,he is on loan and that is gross misconduct.
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Drinky makes Ireland look like a model pro.
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If this is the case he should be terminated immediately.
Blimey...are we allowed to do that?
Absolutely,he is on loan and that is gross misconduct.
Yeah, but killing him?
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If this is the case he should be terminated immediately.
Blimey...are we allowed to do that?
Absolutely,he is on loan and that is gross misconduct.
Yeah, but killing him?
Oh yeh, I meant his contract . Honest mlord
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Footballers in training ground dust up shock,horror. Que faux outrage on fans forum.
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Footballers in training ground dust up shock,horror. Que faux outrage on fans forum.
If he head butted, and as it is a player with a somewhat problematic reputation.
Or shall we put it down to handbags and Bantz ?
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Footballers in training ground dust up shock,horror. Que faux outrage on fans forum.
'In my day a clip round the ear sorted out most people. My old man beat me every day with a lawnmower but it didn't do me no harm.'
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If this is the case he should be terminated immediately.
Blimey...are we allowed to do that?
Absolutely,he is on loan and that is gross misconduct.
Yeah, but killing him?
At least it won't affect his pace.
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Hopefully grounds to stop his loan deal and send him back.
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Footballers in training ground dust up shock,horror. Que faux outrage on fans forum.
Yeah, I was messing around in the garden today with the lads, Jonesy was a bit late sliding in on Brownsy, so Brownsy got up, stuck the nut on Jonesy, smashed his nose into 20 pieces, blood everywhere, but it was all good harmless bantz and at the end of the day we all kicked each other in the bollocks, called everybody a slag, and went for a good old old jolly boys afternoon out in the facking pab! Bish bash bosh, sorted as soon you could say Drinky is a fackin' twat.
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Hopefully grounds to stop his loan deal and send him back.
Or give him a 12 year contract knowing us.
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Can we be sure it was intentional, and not just a mistimed header?
From the Spurs game?
Very good. You've got quite funny in your old age.
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What an absolutely shambolic signing. Waste of money, waste of space.
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Send him back to Fat Frank. Make him run all the way.
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If this is the case he should be terminated immediately.
Blimey...are we allowed to do that?
Absolutely,he is on loan and that is gross misconduct.
Yeah, but killing him?
He’ll be back.
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That has to be said with a German accent.
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That has to be said with a German accent.
Ahem, Austrian accent ?
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More bad press for the club. Who sanctioned the Drinkwater deal? A waste of space not to mention the wages. Rubbish recruitment in January.
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That has to be said with a German accent.
Ahem, Austrian accent ?
Ostmark of the Grossdeutsches Reich. So German.
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John Percy, Torygraph:
Aston Villa are poised to make a decision on Danny Drinkwater’s future after the midfielder’s latest misdemeanour.
Drinkwater will be fined following a training ground confrontation with Jota, after the Chelsea loanee headbutted the Spanish attacking midfielder during a six-a-side session.
Villa are paying half of Drinkwater’s £120,000-a-week wages after signing him on loan in January and are considering their next move, with head coach Dean Smith in talks with the club hierarchy.
It is believed Villa may struggle to reach an agreement with Chelsea to scrap the deal prematurely, but they could instruct the England international to train away from the first-team squad. Jota will also be consulted for his opinion....
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£60k a week on Drinky? We deserve to be relegated for such abject stupidity.
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Arm wrestling.
Get em in, sit em dahn.
Sort it aaht, as they say around here.
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£60k a week on Drinky? We deserve to be relegated for such abject stupidity.
He's been here 9 weeks. £540,000. He's played 263 minutes. £2050 per minute.
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If he has head butted a player then I don’t see what the problem is, send him back to Chelsea and tell them if they have a problem call a lawyer.
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First in a series of players we should have signed instead of Drinky.
An Egyptian bidding to become the oldest professional footballer ever scored on his debut - at the age of 75.
Ezzeldin Bahader needs to play two full games to qualify as an entry in the Guinness World Records book.
He started in impressive fashion, playing a full 90 minutes despite injury on Saturday for the October 6 team in the third tier of Egyptian football.
The father of four and grandfather of six scored from the penalty spot, whereupon he was mobbed by team-mates, as October 6 drew 1-1 with rivals Genius.
"I became the oldest professional footballer scoring a goal in an official game," he said afterwards.
"This is something that was achieved in the last minute of the game that I thought I wouldn't achieve. I was injured and all what I hoped for was to continue for the full 90 minutes and play the next game."
After the match, the youthful-looking Bahader posed for pictures with members of the opposition.
He must now play another full 90 minutes in a second game, which is due to take place on 21 March, to be officially recognised as the world's oldest footballer by Guinness World Records.
The existing record is claimed by Israel's Isaak Hayik, who was 73 years and 95 days old when he played in goal last year for lower-tier Israeli side Ironi Or Yehuda.
The forward, who has recently been battling a knee injury, used to play amateur football while he conducted his career as a civil engineering consultant and then a land cultivation expert.
In January, the Egyptian FA announced the registration of a septuagenarian player who had never previously appeared in professional football.
Having first started playing football in the streets of the Egyptian capital Cairo as a six-year-old, it was only seven decades later that he started to write to teams in the unlikely dream of joining a club.
Cairo-based October 6 were the club that took him, with an eye on getting their place in the record books.
"It is very good for Egypt to have someone in the Guinness Book of Records and for us to have him in the October 6 club," said club coach Ahmed Abdel Ghany.
"Honestly, we won't benefit from him 100% on the technical side but we rehabilitated him in the previous period so that he would be able to play the required 90 or 180 minutes (to qualify for the Guinness World Records book)."
Bahader has recently been training both with the club and at home with a personal trainer in a bid to make his mark.
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get him in the shirt now
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Looking on the Brightside :-
1. He's not eligible to play against his parent club on Saturday
2. Chelsea could take him home on the team coach and save us a bit of petrol
Chelsea probably insisted he did play against them as part of the loan deal.
The fucking waste of space prick.
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How the useless twat ever came to wear a Villa shirt will be buried with the countless other monumental cock ups deep underground in B6. We shall never be allowed to see the file marked "Drinkwater How it happened" next to the big fat file "Tony Xia Why did nobody notice somenody wearing Freeman Hardy and Willis trainers had no money?"
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I loved the ATM style bank balance thing he did - plus 500m or something. Priceless!
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Only the Villa Mr U. Only the Villa.
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Footballers in training ground dust up shock,horror. Que faux outrage on fans forum.
Yeah, I was messing around in the garden today with the lads, Jonesy was a bit late sliding in on Brownsy, so Brownsy got up, stuck the nut on Jonesy, smashed his nose into 20 pieces, blood everywhere, but it was all good harmless bantz and at the end of the day we all kicked each other in the bollocks, called everybody a slag, and went for a good old old jolly boys afternoon out in the facking pab! Bish bash bosh, sorted as soon you could say Drinky is a fackin' twat.
Sounds like the sort of thing you'd expect from Boris and his Uni chums.
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All this has got me thinking. Who has been our biggest waste of space signing over the last few years. I'm going for (in no particular order)
Drinkwater, Grant Holt, N'zogbia, McCormack.
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none of them out Ireland Ireland.
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[none of them out Ireland Ireland.]
Replacing Milliner with Ireland was when I knew the game was well and truly up.
McCormack pushes it.close though.
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none of them out Ireland Ireland.
Villa player of the year under McLeish 😄
McCormack for me was the worst .
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none of them out Ireland Ireland.
Villa player of the year under McLeish 😄
McCormack for me was the worst .
Ireland was often our only decent player
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Ireland personified everything I hate about modern footballers. I never trust a man who runs a pink Range rover.
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First in a series of players we should have signed instead of Drinky.
An Egyptian bidding to become the oldest professional footballer ever scored on his debut - at the age of 75.
Ezzeldin Bahader needs to play two full games to qualify as an entry in the Guinness World Records book.
He started in impressive fashion, playing a full 90 minutes despite injury on Saturday for the October 6 team in the third tier of Egyptian football.
The father of four and grandfather of six scored from the penalty spot, whereupon he was mobbed by team-mates, as October 6 drew 1-1 with rivals Genius.
"I became the oldest professional footballer scoring a goal in an official game," he said afterwards.
"This is something that was achieved in the last minute of the game that I thought I wouldn't achieve. I was injured and all what I hoped for was to continue for the full 90 minutes and play the next game."
After the match, the youthful-looking Bahader posed for pictures with members of the opposition.
He must now play another full 90 minutes in a second game, which is due to take place on 21 March, to be officially recognised as the world's oldest footballer by Guinness World Records.
The existing record is claimed by Israel's Isaak Hayik, who was 73 years and 95 days old when he played in goal last year for lower-tier Israeli side Ironi Or Yehuda.
The forward, who has recently been battling a knee injury, used to play amateur football while he conducted his career as a civil engineering consultant and then a land cultivation expert.
In January, the Egyptian FA announced the registration of a septuagenarian player who had never previously appeared in professional football.
Having first started playing football in the streets of the Egyptian capital Cairo as a six-year-old, it was only seven decades later that he started to write to teams in the unlikely dream of joining a club.
Cairo-based October 6 were the club that took him, with an eye on getting their place in the record books.
"It is very good for Egypt to have someone in the Guinness Book of Records and for us to have him in the October 6 club," said club coach Ahmed Abdel Ghany.
"Honestly, we won't benefit from him 100% on the technical side but we rehabilitated him in the previous period so that he would be able to play the required 90 or 180 minutes (to qualify for the Guinness World Records book)."
Bahader has recently been training both with the club and at home with a personal trainer in a bid to make his mark.
Sign him up. He'd be quicker than most of our squad. We desperately need more pace in the side.
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All this has got me thinking. Who has been our biggest waste of space signing over the last few years. I'm going for (in no particular order)
Drinkwater, Grant Holt, N'zogbia, McCormack.
Charles Nz did my head in: TSM's vanity purchase.
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Robert Pires
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Pires didn't take the piss that I remember and as we could only sign free agents was probably the best available, he probably shouldn't be lumped in with some of the wasters we've had over the years.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/2204046/najwan-ghrayib-was-not-wright
Wow, never knew Najwan turned on little Wrighty like that! I was intrigued by Ghrayib; Gregory rarely bought outside of the UK (like MON) and an alternative, exotic left full back to give competition to plain but reliable Alan Wright really filled me with hope and joy for a while in the late 90's. #RandysRomanticNourishment
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Simon Dawkins wasn’t great. Although I’m not talking about attitude.
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Pires didn't take the piss that I remember and as we could only sign free agents was probably the best available, he probably shouldn't be lumped in with some of the wasters we've had over the years.
There's a pretty good chance he will turn out to have been coronavirus patient zero based on his sluggishness, mind.
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At least he wouldn't have been fast enough to pass it on to anyone.