Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2020, 08:40:32 PM
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Lee Haskins loses, retires.
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Anyone watching tonight?
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If anyone's in the slightest bit interested Kid Galahad looked very impressive.
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Thought he looked v good
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The opponent didn't look to great but Kell Brook needed that performance after his last fight which was over a year ago where he looked rusty and uninterested.
He has the power to hurt anyone in his weight.
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Brook v Smith would be very interesting fight - more so than Brook v Khan now for me
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Brook v Smith would be very interesting fight - more so than Brook v Khan now for me
I agree, Khan seems to have been avoiding Brook for a while now. Pity they couldn't have both met in their prime. Time has moved on and Brook Smith has plenty of appeal.
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Looking forward to the Wilder / Fury fight Saturday, I think it will go of either two ways. Deontay unloads a bomb onto Fury and knocks him out or Fury outboxes him for the full fight and wins on points.
If Joshua fought opponents like these he would become more relevant in the heavyweight division.
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I think Joshua has fought some pretty strong opponents.
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Anyone know a means of watching this tomorrow without paying or accidentally finding out the result?
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£25 is pretty steep if I am just going to tune in at 5am.
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Virgin are showing 1 hour highlights starting on the hour from 9 am tomorrow until 10pm Monday, you obviously still have to pay. I'm going for the first viewing, so hopefully I won't accidentally have found out the result beforehand.
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Fury won in the 5th.
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Anyone know a means of watching this tomorrow without paying or accidentally finding out the result?
Boxing streams aren't hard to get hold of.
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Looking forward to the Wilder / Fury fight Saturday, I think it will go of either two ways. Deontay unloads a bomb onto Fury and knocks him out or Fury outboxes him for the full fight and wins on points.
If Joshua fought opponents like these he would become more relevant in the heavyweight division.
Agree with your assessment of what might happen. Not sure what would be best for the division really - I think if Fury wins he's likely to start dicking around again and talking about retiring. A Wilder win could possibly make a Fury v Joshua fight more of a possibility with the winner then meeting Wilder down the line.
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Watching in the Goose in Selly Oak and it is ridiculois the amount of people here.
Atmosphere is horrible to be honest, full of ******. Wish I'd just stayed in.
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Watching it on youtube.
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Fury has been utterly brilliant, Wilder utterly exposed for the average skill set he has.
Fury beats AJ easily on this showing.
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Pretty one sided.
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Demolition job. Will say I think the stoppage was a bit weird as Wilder looked in more trouble a few times before, but was only a matter of time anyway.
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Corner wanted it stopped, Wilder was done.
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Sensational from the Gypsy King, battered Wilder every round.
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The stats say that Wilder only landed 18 punches in the fight compared to 55 from Fury.
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That was amazing, superb display. He’d absolute destroy Joshua.
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That was amazing, superb display. He’d absolute destroy Joshua.
I agree. Joshua I think is an infinitely better boxer than Wilder (who was badly exposed), but Fury is clearly at a different level.
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I don't think Joshua is a better boxer than Wilder though, not really.
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Can't remember seeing a better display from a British heavyweight, Fury was absolutely brilliant from the first bell to the end. Love to see a Fury Joshua fight, hopefully sometime this year.
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I don't think Joshua is a better boxer than Wilder though, not really.
On the evidence of last night and Joshua's clever performance in the Ruiz rematch i'd say he is streets ahead.
Wilder looks distinctly mediocre and talks of a 3rd fight between him and Fury are a bit disappointing. Yes they will make a lot of money from it, but Fury will just humiliate him again.
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Corner wanted it stopped, Wilder was done.
Just got round to watching it. His corner shouldn't have let him come out for the 7th, as he could hardly lift himself off his stool.
Great win for Fury, but Wilder did not look at all right from the early stages. Looked sluggish and like he was struggling with his balance.
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I don't think Joshua is a better boxer than Wilder though, not really.
On the evidence of last night and Joshua's clever performance in the Ruiz rematch i'd say he is streets ahead.
Wilder looks distinctly mediocre and talks of a 3rd fight between him and Fury are a bit disappointing. Yes they will make a lot of money from it, but Fury will just humiliate him again.
Agree, why would anyone consider a 3rd fight?
Fury has beaten him, by a considerable margin, twice, albeit robbed in the first.
Got to be a unification fight next
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I don't think Joshua is a better boxer than Wilder though, not really.
On the evidence of last night and Joshua's clever performance in the Ruiz rematch i'd say he is streets ahead.
Wilder looks distinctly mediocre and talks of a 3rd fight between him and Fury are a bit disappointing. Yes they will make a lot of money from it, but Fury will just humiliate him again.
Agree, why would anyone consider a 3rd fight?
Fury has beaten him, by a considerable margin, twice, albeit robbed in the first.
Got to be a unification fight next
Joshua has already got a fight pencilled in at Spurs' stadium in the summer hasn't he?
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I don't think Joshua and his team will be in any sort of hurry to meet Fury. They probably realise that'll be his career on a right downward spiral when Fury kicks his arse.
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I don't think Joshua and his team will be in any sort of hurry to meet Fury. They probably realise that'll be his career on a right downward spiral when Fury kicks his arse.
I agree, but, it has to go ahead.
Can’t see the point of a 3rd with Wilder, I know he’s a bit of a one trick pony, but, it is still one heck of a trick, and might not be worth the risk, especially as the unification bout is what everyone now wants.
I reckon Fury would retire if he unified the division.
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Fury's contractually obliged to fight Wilder again though if Wilder exercises the rematch clause in his contract. Can't see him not doing to be honest. Not great for Fury really.
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Ahh, didn’t realise that.
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Fury's contractually obliged to fight Wilder again though if Wilder exercises the rematch clause in his contract. Can't see him not doing to be honest. Not great for Fury really.
He has 30 days from the end of the fight to exercise the re match clause. Would prefer to see AJ against Fury, it would make huge sums for the fighters. Wilder and Fury got 28 million each plus a share of pay per view for the weekends fight.
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To the boxing fans, when did Fury become likeable? Did he enter my consciousness whilst in his depressed state - i.e. came across more than a touch arrogant - or has he become more humble/likeable?
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To the boxing fans, when did Fury become likeable? Did he enter my consciousness whilst in his depressed state - i.e. came across more than a touch arrogant - or has he become more humble/likeable?
I think he always has been a lovable rogue and since he came back from his lay-off he's not said anything controversial.
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Wilder now blaming the immense weight of his 3 stone ring walk costume for his wobbly legs. So nothing to do with 19 stones of Tyson Fury punching him repeatedly in the face then ?
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He thinks gay people are the same as paedophiles. He's a ******.
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Wilder now blaming the immense weight of his 3 stone ring walk costume for his wobbly legs. So nothing to do with 19 stones of Tyson Fury punching him repeatedly in the face then ?
When I was in the fire service the BA sets were 40lb.
It’s not a great weight, so no excuse.
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Unfortunately I agree...I can’t see AJ beating Fury. I’ve been watching the Fury documentaries and as much as you have to credit him for his comeback physically and mentally, he and his family are still complete and utter bellends (not that I’d say that to their faces!). TF is just too big physically and brain dead mentally to get knocked out by AJ, so the only way for an AJ win would be to out box him and take it on points. Either way, it’s not going to happen for a good while yet as the Fury vs Wilder gravy train looks set to continue its journey for another year or so.
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Anybody bothering to watch tonight?
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This one crept under the radar.
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/11946825/kal-yafai-suffers-knockout-loss-to-roman-chocolatito-gonzalez
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This one crept under the radar.
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/11946825/kal-yafai-suffers-knockout-loss-to-roman-chocolatito-gonzalez
He never won a round....stoppage was always on the cards....i really hope he can bounce back from this.
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One thing Kal shows is that Birmingham isn't a boxing city. He was the longest-reigning British world champion, had seven title fights and only one of them was here.
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One thing Kal shows is that Birmingham isn't a boxing city. He was the longest-reigning British world champion, had seven title fights and only one of them was here.
Think that's a little unfair Dave, Ok he won his title in Manchester but his first defence was at the NIA, after that i think he had to chase the cash, apart from a fight in Cardiff (Ishoda) his next 4 defences were all abroad, apart from one fight in Monte Carlo all the others were in states.
He fights at a weight that isn;t really one of the money making weights.
On his way up he fought 4 other times at NIA plus 1 in Wolverhampton.
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Exactly - he couldn't get anything like the same money in his own city. Compare that with Rickie Hatton, say, or Josh Warrington.
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Exactly - he couldn't get anything like the same money in his own city. Compare that with Rickie Hatton, say, or Josh Warrington.
Sorry Dave just read your original post again...Yes you're correct....
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Tyson seems to be trying for a comeback of some sorts. Possibly a charity fight with Holyfield .
It’s one thing looking sharp for 30 seconds on pads. Much different to being hit on the nose by another 17 stone bloke.
What’s worrying is the amount of Tyson fans ( and I am one), thinking he will be good. 15 years after he was last in a ring, and awful.
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It’d be grim seeing Tyson and Holyfield again. Holyfield went on far far far too long anyway.
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Yes, he’s 57 I think?
Shannon Briggs seems to be the latest name.
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Briggs would cause him serious damage.
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And Dave Allen has got it spot on.
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Yes I also think Briggs would destroy him.
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The amount of casuals who think he'd have a chance with just about every heavy in the world. I despair.
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Probably much the same crowd that convinced themselves that McGregor had a chance against Mayweather. We live in an age where celebrity is more important than logic.
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Probably much the same crowd that convinced themselves that McGregor had a chance against Mayweather. We live in an age where celebrity is more important than logic.
Boxing attracts some weird followers. You'll never get anyone watching a Premier League match on TV who'd think Liverpool would be crap on a parks pitch but every pub will have a self-appointed hardman who'd hammer that Joshua bloke out on the street where there's no rules.
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Probably much the same crowd that convinced themselves that McGregor had a chance against Mayweather. We live in an age where celebrity is more important than logic.
Boxing attracts some weird followers. You'll never get anyone watching a Premier League match on TV who'd think Liverpool would be crap on a parks pitch but every pub will have a self-appointed hardman who'd hammer that Joshua bloke out on the street where there's no rules.
Absolutely. Some years back, I literally read somebody argue that 50% of baseball players could be world champion "if they wanted", because "they totally throw their arms with more power".
Because, y'know, it's not like, one of the most skilled sports that relies on years of coaching, incredible reflexes and being technically correct. It's just a case of randomly swinging your arms.
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The BBC boxing podcast with Costello and Bunce is really good normally. But at the moment they are reviewing “Big fights” in history.
They did Hearns Vs Leonard, whilst interviewing Leonard, which was great.
Spinks vs Tyson ( which was Randomly on a Monday night!) and Hatton vs Tszyu.
Generally one of my favourite podcasts, along with “ Clips of the Week” on Talk Sport.
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I always thought Tyson was at his peak that night. Spinks was arguably the linear champion yet he was terrified as he entered the ring. I don't think there's ever been a boxer in my lifetime who destroyed all comers as convincingly as Tyson did.
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That night he really was the rabbit in the headlights.
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I always thought Tyson was at his peak that night. Spinks was arguably the linear champion yet he was terrified as he entered the ring. I don't think there's ever been a boxer in my lifetime who destroyed all comers as convincingly as Tyson did.
There is so much that Tyson lost after that night, it's hard to believe he was the same guy who lived off his name from the mid-90s onwards. Comparing his humility and shyness in those days to the angry mess he became, it's clear he changed massively as a man as well as a fighter.
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I always thought Tyson was at his peak that night. Spinks was arguably the linear champion yet he was terrified as he entered the ring. I don't think there's ever been a boxer in my lifetime who destroyed all comers as convincingly as Tyson did.
There is so much that Tyson lost after that night, it's hard to believe he was the same guy who lived off his name from the mid-90s onwards. Comparing his humility and shyness in those days to the angry mess he became, it's clear he changed massively as a man as well as a fighter.
He got rid of Kevin Rooney.
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It's back on BT tonight.
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I always thought Tyson was at his peak that night. Spinks was arguably the linear champion yet he was terrified as he entered the ring. I don't think there's ever been a boxer in my lifetime who destroyed all comers as convincingly as Tyson did.
There is so much that Tyson lost after that night, it's hard to believe he was the same guy who lived off his name from the mid-90s onwards. Comparing his humility and shyness in those days to the angry mess he became, it's clear he changed massively as a man as well as a fighter.
He got rid of Kevin Rooney.
What possessed him to make that decision Dave?
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I always thought Tyson was at his peak that night. Spinks was arguably the linear champion yet he was terrified as he entered the ring. I don't think there's ever been a boxer in my lifetime who destroyed all comers as convincingly as Tyson did.
There is so much that Tyson lost after that night, it's hard to believe he was the same guy who lived off his name from the mid-90s onwards. Comparing his humility and shyness in those days to the angry mess he became, it's clear he changed massively as a man as well as a fighter.
He got rid of Kevin Rooney.
What possessed him to make that decision Dave?
Don King, probably.
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Meanwhile, Hamzah Sheeraz looks a good prospect at light-middle.
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So it's going to be Roy Jones Jr who Tyson fights. I hope Iron Mike has lost most of his power because Jones looked more than done in his last few bouts, it was sad to see. That said, I don't remember Tyson's last fights so possibly the same could be said of him.
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So it's going to be Roy Jones Jr who Tyson fights. I hope Iron Mike has lost most of his power because Jones looked more than done in his last few bouts, it was sad to see. That said, I don't remember Tyson's last fights so possibly the same could be said of him.
They are too old to slug it out. This will end very badly.
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Roy Jones Jr is my favourite boxer ever, the only one who actually made me laugh out loud because he was so much better than even his "toughest" opponents when he was in his prime. I just hope he doesn't get seriously hurt because he was never a natural heavy and the lightning-quick reflexes have long gone. Tyson might be busted too, but Foreman showed in his comeback that power is the last thing to go.
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Roy Jones Jr is my favourite boxer ever, the only one who actually made me laugh out loud because he was so much better than even his "toughest" opponents when he was in his prime. I just hope he doesn't get seriously hurt because he was never a natural heavy and the lightning-quick reflexes have long gone. Tyson might be busted too, but Foreman showed in his comeback that power is the last thing to go.
Foreman retired at 28 when he was in pretty good shape and came back ten years later. Tyson's 54, been out of boxing for fifteen years and has been shot to bits for the best part of a decade before that.
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Anyone watching tonight?
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Anyone watching tonight?
What's the card?
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Joe Joyce is about to start.
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Ah, should be interesting. Dubois doesn't fight until the end of August, does he? Which, if they go ahead with Joyce/Dubois in October, Joyce will be more rested, but then is that an advantage for a 34-year old?
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Three months between fights is about the least a top heavyweight gets. He looked okay tonight but he's ponderously slow.
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Four or five years ago, that wouldn't necessarily have been too much of an obstacle in the Heavyweights. But the landscape has changed and it's difficult to see Joyce having any great success, even if he beats Dubois (I don't think he will). Fury, Wilder, AJ, Whyte, Usyk, Parker would all have far too much for him, I think.
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He'd be a big outsider against any of them, but he looks like he can take some punishment and if Dubois can't get him out in the first four rounds the rest of the fight could be interesting.
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True, it'll be one of the fights of the year, definitely, but barring a Calzaghe/Lacy type of loss I can only see Dubois really gaining from the fight. The big names will be too busy over the next 18 months for Joyce to even register.
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Saturday's Matchroom card looks decent.
Eggington v Cheeseman could be a tear up if Sam has anything left in the tank after a tough career!
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Saturday's Matchroom card looks decent.
Eggington v Cheeseman could be a tear up if Sam has anything left in the tank after a tough career!
Eggington always gets talked about as though he's a veteran but he's only 26. Then again, he's taken some punishment. Tonight's card has started well.
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And tonight.... all the way from Eddie Hearn's back garden....
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Cracking fight, think Macklin was spot on Eggington started too slowly - saying that Eggington is one of my favourite fighters to watch, always box office. Hopefully rematch when crowds are back
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So the undercard for the Jones/Tyson comedy show is a former NBA player taking on a Youtuber.
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Cracking fight, think Macklin was spot on Eggington started too slowly - saying that Eggington is one of my favourite fighters to watch, always box office. Hopefully rematch when crowds are back
Absolutely. If Eggington ever realises that he can block punches with something apart from his chin he could be world level. I had it 115-113 Cheeseman but half a dozen of those rounds could have gone either way.
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Definitely not the most efficient form of defence :-)
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Anyone watching Jonjo Carroll tonight?
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Jason Welborn will very likely be having his last fight tonight.
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Started a very decent fight
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Started a very decent fight
Did you see the end of the last one? My stream suddenly turned into bsketball and by the time I got it back the fight had ended.
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I tuned in as this fight started.
Obv class difference but would have helped if he hadn’t kept punching him in the nuts
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I tuned in as this fight started.
Obv class difference but would have helped if he hadn’t kept punching him in the nuts
That's surely it for Welborn. He was outclassed from the start even if there were a few Mexican punches there.
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He certainly ain’t at title level anymore, probs a couple more journeyman paydays as target practice if he wants them. Cash looked decent tho he was a bit open at times, interesting to see him if goes up level
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When you've been British champion and fought for a world title at MSG, do you really want to pick up a couple of grand training for weeks then fighting eight rounds at Walsall Town Hall? Even if there are any small hall shows this season.
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You’d hope not but if Hearn has more middleweights in the stable he’ll still be a name for the record....hopefully he’ll see that as the end
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Whatever he does, he deserves it.
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Tonight's an odd one. Two good and evenly-matched fights early on and two mismatches topping the bill.
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Sharp was spot on, against a good fighter he’d have been soundly beaten
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Sharp was spot on, against a good fighter he’d have been soundly beaten
Good to see a fighter so honest. The next two don't look too promising.
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Conlans opponent should go down & stay down next low blow & try for dq-commentators seem to be salivating over him but it seems a brainless tactic to keep going low when he’s way better than him
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Two points deducted, he can't be far away from being thrown out.
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Decent finish, be interesting to see if he can step up to world title level, be a contrast of styles if fights Warrington
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Warrington would take him out with no problem.
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I’d agree, he’d swarm all over him
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Frampton got the rounds in then stepped up. That was a good finish.
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And that McCann lad looks one for the future.
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He certainly does, eye catching stoppage
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Alen Babic gets the night off to an effective start.
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Chris Kongo looks a promising welter.
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I Missed the first two rounds , but Katie Taylor was fortunate to win that, I thought.
Eddies house is nice isn’t it?
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I doubt the neighbours will complain about the noise from 500 acres away,
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Pitters v Sugden on ch5 was a routine win for Pitters who looks a controlled fighter
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Meanwhile, on Sky.......
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Bang. Over....
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That was one almighty left hand.
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Wow.
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I think that punch would have killed me if I was on the receiving end.
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Whyte didn't even particularly leave his chin wide open - it was a one-off bit of perfection that you might do once in a career.
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Yeah, reminded me of the KO in Froch/Groves 2. Just one of those freakish picture-perfect punches that fighters dream of.
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I haven't seen the fight just wondered if Delfine took a pounding in the ring?
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I haven't seen the fight just wondered if Delfine took a pounding in the ring?
She swung a lot but didn't land much.
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I haven't seen the fight just wondered if Delfine took a pounding in the ring?
She swung a lot but didn't land much.
Yep, I didn't think it was too different from the first fight. Competitive but a fairly clear result.
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I care very little about the boxing but just watched a clip of the Sky anchor describing Katie Taylor as Team GB Olympian boxer.
Up to their usual bollocks then.
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Wow. He was so in control until then.
Strangely,with how the heavyweight scene is, if he wins a rematch it’s “ as you were “. Maybe not for purse splits , but in the grand scheme of things
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Wednesday night boxing; we are being spoilt.
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Tonight's fun has started already.
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Was late to it tonight, caught last 4/5 rounds of Sunny Edwards fight, looked very controlled
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Dubois to win in less than 3 rounds!
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Make that 2 rounds....
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3mins 20 punchbag
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Why people only watch farces like Saturday when you have well-matched cards such as tonight I'll never know.
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Fred will be sorely missed. Ten bells!
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The promoter's son's fighting now. I wonder who'll get the decision?
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Or maybe not.
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Only just got it so missed earlier stuff but Dilmaghani v Ziani is a cracking little contest so far....
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Keep watching the highlights after this one.
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Keep watching the highlights after this one.
Will do!
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I'm knackered just watching this one.
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Great fight....loved every minute of that! Who needs PPV rubbish when you can watch contests like that!
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Said it before and I'll say it again - you don't need titles on offer and you don't need big names. Put two evenly-matched boxers together and they'll do the rest.
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Said it before and I'll say it again - you don't need titles on offer and you don't need big names. Put two evenly-matched boxers together and they'll do the rest.
Absolutely!
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Sad to see Alan Minter has passed away! Ten bells!
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Sad to see Alan Minter has passed away! Ten bells!
That's a real shame. He was one of those Sportsnight, Harry Carpenter, Royal Albert Hall fighters from the golden era of TV boxing.
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Sad to see Alan Minter has passed away! Ten bells!
That's a real shame. He was one of those Sportsnight, Harry Carpenter, Royal Albert Hall fighters from the golden era of TV boxing.
Grew up watching the likes of Alan Minter,Charlie Magri,Maurice Hope etc. As you rightly say,a golden era!
Closely followed by Central Fight Night! ;D
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A lovely man, used to live in our village and drank in our local, always had time for a chat and a tale to tell.
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Annnnddd tonight's action begins...
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Heffron v Bentley could be a cracker.
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Cagey so far considering the knock down....get a feeling it’s going to crank up
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I thought before the start that Bentley's on the up and Heffron's reached his level.
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Heffron let’s judges know every time he throws a punch with the noises :-) not sure Bentley doing enough coming fwd since rd4
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Yarde did enough but he wasn't all that impressive.
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Lloyd Honeyghan's been in intensive care but seems to be recovering.
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Lloyd Honeyghan's been in intensive care but seems to be recovering.
His defeat of Don Curry must still rank as one of the greatest upsets by a British boxer!
Hope he gets well soon.
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Two bills tonight.
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Just joined the BT one during Williams v Edwards
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You missed a stunning stoppage from Ionut Baluta. Edwards isn't looking particularly good.
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Just watched the last few seconds of Baluta on Twitter will have to record the replay if they show it.
Edwards looked like he was fighting on his level whether he has much more to go to
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If you're lucky they'll show it again afer the main event. On that showing I can't see Edwards going beyond British level at bantam.
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Ain't never seen a fighter stay down for so long after a body shot before.
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Nope, sliding out of the ring on his back was different
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Does anyone bother with the midweek fights?
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Does anyone bother with the midweek fights?
I certainly wish i'd given the o'Hara Davies v McKenna fight a miss.
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Does anyone bother with the midweek fights?
I certainly wish i'd given the o'Hara Davies v McKenna fight a miss.
Indeed. The one before that was a comprehensive beating though.
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Caught a reply of that Davis fight before reading here....wish I’d read here first :-)
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Caught a reply of that Davis fight before reading here....wish I’d read here first :-)
You'd have thought that a 50/50 match-up with so much at stake would have seen both fighters giving their all. Not the case.
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Caught a reply of that Davis fight before reading here....wish I’d read here first :-)
You'd have thought that a 50/50 match-up with so much at stake would have seen both fighters giving their all. Not the case.
Just wondering Dave at 7.15 will you be watching the Villa or the boxing?
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Caught a reply of that Davis fight before reading here....wish I’d read here first :-)
You'd have thought that a 50/50 match-up with so much at stake would have seen both fighters giving their all. Not the case.
Just wondering Dave at 7.15 will you be watching the Villa or the boxing?
My staff will be watching for me.
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Buatsi's on now.
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A strange ending to an underwhelming performance.
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Willy Hutchinson looks very impressive.
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Nathan Gorman is embarrassing...too fat....too slow....end of!
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Too fat definitely, but he's relatively quick for a heavyweight.
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Odd stoppage for Williams - got up in installments
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Robinson seemed stunned by the head clash, and you can't cut it that fine getting up.
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Reports are going round that Fury v Wilder 3 is to be called off.
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It looks like another Eddie Hearn mega-bill tonight.
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But to be fair, there have been a couple of really good upsets so far.
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That Ritson fight, if there’s an award for most boring headline fight then that has to be up there
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That Ritson fight, if there’s an award for most boring headline fight then that has to be up there
Coupled with worst scorecard of the decade. Terry O'Connor is beyond laughable.
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Blimey Loma lost.
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That Ritson fight, if there’s an award for most boring headline fight then that has to be up there
Coupled with worst scorecard of the decade. Terry O'Connor is beyond laughable.
Totally, close you could maybe understand but that wide was bizarre
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And the BBoC exonerated him because it was his opinion. I can just imagine the Premier League saying that about a dodgy sending-off.
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£20 to watch the Chisora fight, Dave that is a rip off.
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£20 to watch the Chisora fight, Dave that is a rip off.
Other options are available.
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£20 to watch the Chisora fight, Dave that is a rip off.
Other options are available.
Yep, I'll be listening. Added advantage of Mike Costello.
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Hearn fighter loses on a Hearn card. The world's going crazy.
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Anyone watching Heffron v Bentley tonight?
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Anyone watching Heffron v Bentley tonight?
I watched it, that eye injury for Heffron was pretty gruesome.
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Anyone watching Heffron v Bentley tonight?
I watched it, that eye injury for Heffron was pretty gruesome.
The worst I've seen for a long time, and I don't blame his corner for pulling him out. If it had cut it could have ended his career.
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As bad as Vitali vs Lewis?
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As bad as Vitali vs Lewis?
It could have been that bad.
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As bad as Vitali vs Lewis?
It could have been that bad.
Ouch. I watched a feature a few years ago which showed the canvas after Calzaghe against Roy Jones. That was a fairly nasty but not out-of-the-ordinary cut, but my god, the blood. It looked like the floor of an abbatoir.
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Tonight might be interesting, with three womens fights on the bill.
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This Cullen v Docherty could be tasty!
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It's certainly bloody.
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Can't see this lasting much longer.
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Can't see this lasting much longer.
Painful to watch.
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Still, fair play she is obviously hard as nails. Still should have been stopped a long time ago.
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That's often part of the problem, isn't it. The fighter is usually the last person to know the fight is over. Too brave for their own good.
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Yes, the fault was the corner's, not hers. Thankfully she was still on her feet and smiling at the end, could have been dangerous.
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Taylor's on another level to any other woman fighter in the world.
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Taylor's on another level to any other woman fighter in the world.
I don't know enough about womens boxing, but are you including Shields in that?
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Taylor's on another level to any other woman fighter in the world.
I don't know enough about womens boxing, but are you including Shields in that?
Absolutely. I can see her having to go up to middle at least to have a decent fight.
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Taylor's on another level to any other woman fighter in the world.
I don't know enough about womens boxing, but are you including Shields in that?
Absolutely. I can see her having to go up to middle at least to have a decent fight.
Womens boxing has really been building momentum. I think I'm keen to see whether that's a wider thing or just in the UK. Taylor is absolutely brilliant, agreed, but is she capturing the American audience? Not a slight on Taylor or womens boxing, I genuinely don't know.
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Taylor is class but I feel the last couple of fights she’s been a little lucky lately. Needs to start getting back to winning by knock out.
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This Cullen v Docherty could be tasty!
I quite like Cullen and i was worried when he was put down in first 30 secs. In the end won fairly comfortably but an excellent bout as well.
Also liked the potential of young Farouq...won at a canter but very skilful.
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Cairns well beaten there. His corner did the compassionate thing by retiring him. Decent start to the evening.
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That Fabio Wardley's a bit of a handful.
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And that was by far Connor Benn's best-ever performance.
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Alen Babic v Fabio Wardley would be a decent match up I reckon!
The performance from Conor Benn was outstanding. He certainly needs to step up to at least British title level now. Formello was expected to be a tough night for Benn but it was totally one sided!
Attention now turns to Dubois v Joyce.
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Yoka v Hammer starting soon could be interesting ahead of tomorrow night.
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Yoka v Hammer starting soon could be interesting ahead of tomorrow night.
It wasn't. On that showing Yoka wouldn't trouble Derek Chisora.
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What time is Tyson farce likely to be on? Different websites say different times?
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What time is Tyson farce likely to be on? Different websites say different times?
The 'fight' is likely to start between 4/5am our time. The mailing list of PPV buyers will be in big demand from anyone who believes it's a mortal sin to allow suckers to keep their money.
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Any predictions for Dubois -Joyce ? Only a casual fan and never seen Dubois fight, but have read of his reputation and watched a few of Joyce's fights and can't see much beyond a Dubois KO. Too young, too powerful.
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The undercard for Dubois v Joyce....
Hamzah Sheeraz vs Guido Nicolas Pitto (WBO European super-welterweight title)
Jack Cattarall vs Abderrazak Houya (super lightweight)
Loiue Lynn vs Paul Holt (featherweight)
Jack Massey vs Mohammad Ali Bayat Farid (cruiserweight)
David Adeleye vs Danny Whitaker (heavyweight)
Joshua Frankham vs MJ Hall (super welterweight)
Mitchell Barton (debut) vs Matt Gordon (heavyweight)
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Unusual venue for a Boxing night, The Church House, Westminster next door to Westminster Abbey.
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One of the worst undercards I've seen for a big fight but understandable given its no longer PPV.
Dubois to stop Joyce for me. Joyce has a solid chin but he's too easy to hit and don't think he'll be able to withstand the power of Dubois.
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Catterall should have had this one won by now.
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Richie Woodhall must be happy, Albion managed to win a match!
It's Dubois for me anybody brave enough to go for Joyce?
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Richie Woodhall must be happy, Albion managed to win a match!
It's Dubois for me anybody brave enough to go for Joyce?
Ask me when it's gone six rounds.
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Always think Joyce looks too slow but he can bang - Dubois is exciting & can bang. If I was a betting man I’d take Dubois in 6 but it’s really open
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I was impressed with Hamzah Sheeraz.
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Joyce can't miss with that jab. I've got it 2-2 going into the fifth
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I've got it 48-47 to the man with the pop art shorts.
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The eye did it - not sure what to make of these pair - poss better than Chisora, not as good as Dillian, nowhere near Fury or AJ
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Weird end to a fight. Thought Dubois was supposed to be this outrageous beast with boxing skills, but Joyce ate a few right hands and didn't seem to flinch, must less step back. Think both would be fair beaten by Fury or Joshua.
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I wouldn't say a boxer could quit, but that was never a fight-winning punch.
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Very disappointed in Dubois tonight. Fair play to Joyce though, never looked troubled.
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He 100% quit, fair play to him tho as fighting on with one eye is foolhardy - maybe his corner should have been on it
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On reflection, Dubois probably thought no point in fighting on when he could have been badly hurt.
Joyce reminds me of Gary Mason. He's slow and looks cumbersome but he keeps on coming.
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Full credit to Joyce boxed superbly, Dubois will now be called a quitter, but I think he was concerned about possibly having permanent damage done to his eye.
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Apparently Dubois was up by eight rounds on one of the scorecards. Diabolical.
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All the rounds were close hence it being a pretty poor fight as neither had concerted pressure or attack...so not diabolical but would say surprising that a judge would have found enough to give Dubois that level of lead.
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The eye did it - not sure what to make of these pair - poss better than Chisora, not as good as Dillian, nowhere near Fury or AJ
On tonight's viewing, I don't think either would beat Chisora. Saying that, Joe Joyce has gone home with the Britis, European and Commowealth belts which is certainly not to be sniffed at.
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You very rarely get a classic heavyweight fight; the memorable ones are usually when one punch changes everything but that one wasn't bad. I think Joyce on tonight's form would beat Chisora but i can't see him improving much.
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On reflection, Dubois probably thought no point in fighting on when he could have been badly hurt.
Joyce reminds me of Gary Mason. He's slow and looks cumbersome but he keeps on coming.
Yeah a serious eye injury could be career ending, so folding his cards when he did might turn out to be a good move in the long run. Thought Dubois looked shell shocked and glazed over at times sitting on his stool,in between rounds.
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On tonight's viewing, I don't think either would beat Chisora. Saying that, Joe Joyce has gone home with the Britis, European and Commowealth belts which is certainly not to be sniffed at.
As a casual observer of boxing I have to admit I'd confused him with John Joe Joyce till I read he was British and checked his wikipedia. Presumably not your usual boxer outside the ring.
Outside the ring, he is a proficient artist, having graduated with a 2:1 degree in fine arts from Middlesex University. In 2017, Joyce had displays with the Art of the Olympians.
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Never mind the big names, tonight's card looks a cracker.
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Anyone watching tonight?
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Just put it on....Courtenay looks decent,got a bit of a story as well.
Looking forward to the main event!
Would love Murray to win a world title but can't see him beating Saunders.
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Tennyson was a bit explosive there.
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The step up to lightweight has done him the world of good!
Definitely a must watch in future.
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Tennyson v Luke Campbell would be a fight.
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Decent fight but probs a few years late for Murray.
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Saunders could be an all-time great fighter if he stepped up a gear.
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He’s right, he needs that proper fight to see if he has it in him
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Chris Bourke was very impressive there.
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Looking forward to Yarde v Arthur....that guarantees it’ll be a stinker
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Looking forward to Yarde v Arthur....that guarantees it’ll be a stinker
This is the sort of fight Warren does well - two well-matched British level fighters.
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Agree, this is almost too well matched at the mo.
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You mean tedious.
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Immensely, like a Pulis v Bruce game, no one attacking
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Yarde is like a Bruce fighter - he's terrified to attack.
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Million miles away from world class
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Between them they've got 31 of their 37 wins by stoppage, and neither of them threw more than a couple of big punches.
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Yarde going to give it the ‘I was robbed’ isn’t he? Only one man to blame
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Absolutely. I had Yarde a point up but he should have done much better.
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Does anyone listen to the 5Live boxing podcast? You have to question Yarde's trainer & manager. He is good value for the media, but doesn't exactly seem to be much of a thinker or scholar of the sport.
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Does anyone listen to the 5Live boxing podcast? You have to question Yarde's trainer & manager. He is good value for the media, but doesn't exactly seem to be much of a thinker or scholar of the sport.
He was useless. It took him eight rounds to see what Cousin Ritchie had been saying for the past five.
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I'm not surprised. That kind of bravado can be useful, but when you're knackered with 45-50 seconds in the corner between rounds, it isn't going to be helpful.
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Anyone watching?
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Good win for Sam Eggington. Followed his career. He needed that one.
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Apparently Eggington might be fighting Adrien Broner after beating Theophane tonight. I didn't see that one coming.
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Apparently Eggington might be fighting Adrien Broner after beating Theophane tonight. I didn't see that one coming.
That would be a massive error of judgement.
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Apparently Eggington might be fighting Adrien Broner after beating Theophane tonight. I didn't see that one coming.
That should be a decent pay day for a journeyman.
2020 is all types of weird when ch5 are showing boxing from Redditch :-)
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It's a disgrace that the Joshua fight is on PPV, £26 to watch, in the present economic climate, do the powers that be not realise a lot of fans are living on the breadline.
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Apparently Eggington might be fighting Adrien Broner after beating Theophane tonight. I didn't see that one coming.
That should be a decent pay day for a journeyman.
2020 is all types of weird when ch5 are showing boxing from Redditch :-)
The best fights so far have been on Channel 5 and the production last night was the best I've ever seen. Now, I've just switched on. How did Hughie Fury look?
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Radio comms on AJ for me, will watch midweek when Sky show the fight on normal channel....
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Radio comms on AJ for me, will watch midweek when Sky show the fight on normal channel....
Try crackstreams.
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Nice finish to the fight from AJ, caught Pulev with quite a few uppercuts.
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So finally he sorts it in the 9th. A good workout for AJ I say.
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It wasn't good enough to trouble Fury, and maybe not Wilder, but he finished the fight well.
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Radio comms on AJ for me, will watch midweek when Sky show the fight on normal channel....
Try crackstreams.
Cheers Dave
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I thought or felt he was holding back a little after dominating the 3rd round. In fairness to his opponent though he was a very tough cookie.
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It wasn't good enough to trouble Fury, and maybe not Wilder, but he finished the fight well.
He seems to just do enough doesn't he? Never looks entirely convincing yet wins. There's a level of respect (or fear, pick your own word) about his approach that doesn't fill you with confidence. I think Fury will win if they do fight though.
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I think it was a very strange performance from Joshua. He obviously tried to finish Pulev off in the 3rd but seemed to gas out. The following rounds he looked knackered. He'd throw a burst of shots & then look to hold. Luckily for him Pulev was shot too & it was only a matter of time before he finished it.
Personally I think Joshua is perfect for Fury! Fingers crossed they can get the fight made next year!
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Gamal Yafai fights for European title against Italian champ(Luca Rigoldi) in Italy tonight.
On Dazn,at 18:30, i'm assuming that's the start of the undercard so i will be able to complete the Burnley game
prior to turning over.
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Gamal Yafai fights for European title against Italian champ(Luca Rigoldi) in Italy tonight.
On Dazn,at 18:30, i'm assuming that's the start of the undercard so i will be able to complete the Burnley game
prior to turning over.
And a good win.
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Gamal Yafai fights for European title against Italian champ(Luca Rigoldi) in Italy tonight.
On Dazn,at 18:30, i'm assuming that's the start of the undercard so i will be able to complete the Burnley game
prior to turning over.
And a good win.
It was indeed i'm not sure how the one judge had it 119- 109, the 2 x 116-112's were much more realistic.
Very enjoyable
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Tonight is up to Mick Hennessey's usual standards.
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How Pitters makes Light Heavyweight is a mystery to me, he's huge.
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Pitters on points to bring up the first leg of my acca hopefully.
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My predictions up to their usual standard.
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My predictions up to their usual standard.
About as good as mine. Out of the blue and that's why boxing is so great.
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Anyone staying/getting up for Canelo v Smith?
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I am, but I think that's cheating!
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My Spanish still isn't up to having actual conversations with the locals here, but their love for Canelo is palpable. And this is an arty namby pamby enclave.
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Our lad battered the gringo.
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Our lad battered the gringo.
Very good SE.
That was a masterclass in how to box.
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I have, at best, a passing interest in the game, but that looked like a masterclass to me.
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Canelo dodged most of what Smith threw at him (which was not enough) and what did land he just walked through. I often get the feeling with a lot of British champions that when they have these fights stateside they deep down just don't feel they belong. Smith was intimidated by Canelo and his reputation from the off.
But Canelo vs GGG 3(?) is on now. The fact that Canelo didn't stop Smith makes me wonder if he is not slightly lacking the real power he needs at Super Middle, given how often he landed? Even though he obviously hit harder than Smith. I think after Friday I'd lean towards GGG for the next rematch.
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I watched both and by my reckoning, anywhere outside of Mexico and the US South West, GGG won the first fight and the second was a draw. If the third fight is back in Vegas, once again GGG stands no chance of getting a decision.
Canelo is undeniably a great fighter, but I don't like him at all.
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Can't say I was overly impressed with Garcia there, Cambell a bit unlucky. And Garcia is an annoying cock to boot.
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Bollocks, I forgot that was on.
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Can't say I was overly impressed with Garcia there, Cambell a bit unlucky. And Garcia is an annoying cock to boot.
Excellent bodyshot to finish it though.
Had Garcia ahead as well. Thought Luke obviously the 2nd but also the 4th, Garcia the rest.
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Boxing in UK suspended for January