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Title: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on January 29, 2020, 09:25:40 AM
Wembley Stadium, Sunday March 1st, 16.30 ko.


Absolutely fantastic to be in a final, credit to how far Deano and the staff have taken us. For context, January last year included 3-0 losses away at Wigan and at home to Swansea in the FA Cup.

Is there any hope that United can overcome City?

Any clues as to when ticket info will be released?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 29, 2020, 09:29:45 AM
Revenge for 20 years ago when O Neill came and played with 4 centre backs in the second leg and they overcame us with anti football. I'm just glad to be in the final but i'm not hopeful either way. I thought we'd get battered in the semi though over the 2 legs so you never know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 29, 2020, 09:30:02 AM
Is it to much to hope that United beat City, same as Derby doing Leeds!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 29, 2020, 09:36:12 AM
I'm just delighted to be going back to Wembley. Let's worry about the opposition on the day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 29, 2020, 09:42:09 AM
League Cup Final, hello old friend.

It's coming home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on January 29, 2020, 09:44:22 AM
The last time we had a League Cup Final on 1st March (1975) it ended well  :)

A Villa fan walked into a pub near Wembley Stadium and the bar man said "hello, the usual is it?"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 29, 2020, 09:45:50 AM
I'm just delighted to be going back to Wembley. Let's worry about the opposition on the day.

No. Let's let the opposition worry about us on the day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 29, 2020, 09:45:52 AM
Have woken this morning with that comforting  glow that weíre off to a Final. This is what being a fan is about.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 29, 2020, 09:46:26 AM
Anyone got any Villa Vouchers?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on January 29, 2020, 09:58:51 AM
No, but I'm stocking up on Double Diamond
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on January 29, 2020, 10:05:19 AM
I'm having Davenports deliver
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 29, 2020, 11:41:30 AM
Back in November I booked a family holiday and guess what the flight to Istanbul departs BHX at 11.30 on 1 March :-\
A school boy error because as a supporter of a big club I should have checked out major event dates.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 29, 2020, 11:49:40 AM
It's a sign of how things have changed that we regard Man U as easier opponents than Citeh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 29, 2020, 12:30:19 PM
Just so pleased for the lad's especially Dean Smith for two Wembley appearances in two seasons bring it on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cannock villa on January 29, 2020, 12:36:07 PM
Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on January 29, 2020, 12:40:10 PM
Man City have got Real Madrid in the Champions league a few days before the final. Hopefully they'll be knackered & rest a few for the final (assuming they get past Utd).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kieron on January 29, 2020, 12:42:31 PM
Allocations are usually around 33,000 so that'll sort out season ticket holders.

Doesn't leave a lot for the post season ticket holder criteria brackets though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 29, 2020, 12:46:01 PM
Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history.  People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that.  They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 29, 2020, 12:50:18 PM
Future quiz question in the making, "Which 2020 cup-winning side knocked out all of that season's top three en route to lifting the trophy?"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on January 29, 2020, 01:55:13 PM
Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history.  People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that.  They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.

There are a lot of claret members so I think there will be booking history stages, otherwise the demand for 3000 tickets will simpler crash the internet!

The claret members in my family havenít joined to skip the queue, theyíve done it because otherwise thereís no virtually chance of getting a ticket for any game, let alone Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 29, 2020, 02:37:18 PM
It's a sign of how things have changed that we regard Man U as easier opponents than Citeh.

I don't. I'd rather play Man City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 29, 2020, 02:44:04 PM
Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history.  People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that.  They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.

There are a lot of claret members so I think there will be booking history stages, otherwise the demand for 3000 tickets will simpler crash the internet!

The claret members in my family havenít joined to skip the queue, theyíve done it because otherwise thereís no virtually chance of getting a ticket for any game, let alone Wembley.

I joined to ensure a ticket for home games. After all, it was unlikely we would get to Wembley this season. Apparently there are about 8000 Claret members.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on January 29, 2020, 02:49:14 PM
I doubt every season ticket holder will go anyway
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 29, 2020, 02:55:08 PM
It is possible that Man City might return some of their allocation as some of their fans have become blasť about such things.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 29, 2020, 03:23:57 PM
It is possible that Man City might return some of their allocation as some of their fans have become blasť about such things.

Tonight's semi-final was not sold out. Manchester Derby as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bren'd on January 29, 2020, 03:50:30 PM
True.  It was rumoured that they were going to change the name of their stadium to the Emptyhad
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 29, 2020, 04:01:47 PM
Not one of the 4 semi finals legs sold out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy1874 on January 29, 2020, 04:16:53 PM
That may be the case, but I guarantee references will be passed around
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on January 29, 2020, 05:45:15 PM
That may be the case, but I guarantee references will be passed around
It wont go anywhere near to general sale , I'd guess there will be a fair few C&B member that will miss out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 29, 2020, 05:49:51 PM
On the day touts will be charging in the region of £150 for tickets for whichever Manc club it is and £250+ for any of ours.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 29, 2020, 05:49:55 PM
https://ticketingcontent.thefa.com/Carabao%20Cup%20Final%202020

This gives an idea of what the prices will be at least.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dazvillain on January 29, 2020, 09:19:22 PM
Allocations are usually around 33,000 so that'll sort out season ticket holders.

Doesn't leave a lot for the post season ticket holder criteria brackets though.
Allocations are usually around 33,000 so that'll sort out season ticket holders.

Doesn't leave a lot for the post season ticket holder criteria brackets though.

Surely all those that invaded the pitch will be banned and fined and stripped of ST as per regulations leaving a few more for us mere claret members ? (Winky/smiley face)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exigo on January 29, 2020, 09:44:41 PM
Man City it is then. Payback time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 29, 2020, 09:52:11 PM
As in the second line of the song, whatever will be will be.  We might get a right tonking. We might have one of those days when all the stars aline...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on January 29, 2020, 09:53:20 PM
We'll win on penalties. You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 29, 2020, 09:54:08 PM
We'll win on penalties. You heard it here first.

That happened on FIFA on Christmas Day so you could be right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on January 29, 2020, 09:57:09 PM
Any idea when the club will announce ticket criteria? I have Claret membership with 4 games (plus been to 2 games with no booking history from a friend with season ticket) so a bit concerned that I might not get a ticket. I got playoff final tickets with 6 games booking history over the whole season so hope it wonít be that high this time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 29, 2020, 09:57:43 PM
Leicester had the audacity to beat us 4-1 at home and paid the price. Man City have similar fate awaiting them after their rather rude 6-1 win at VP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 29, 2020, 09:58:36 PM
It's a final. We're in it. We can't do any worse than against Arsenal the other year, can we?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 29, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
Any idea when the club will announce ticket criteria? I have Claret membership with 4 games (plus been to 2 games with no booking history from a friend with season ticket) so a bit concerned that I might not get a ticket. I got playoff final tickets with 6 games booking history over the whole season so hope it wonít be that high this time.

I spoke to the club today and they obviously had to wait first to see who the opposition is, then what the allocation is.  Only guessing but would think it'll be early next week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 29, 2020, 10:00:41 PM
The kick off time hasnít even been confirmed yet, has it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exigo on January 29, 2020, 10:03:24 PM
Sunday 1 March. 4.30pm kick off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 29, 2020, 10:05:42 PM
Don't care, all I know is it's not my turn to drive!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sdwbvf on January 29, 2020, 10:10:25 PM
I reckon it may be Claret members with 5 or 6 first (after Season Tickets) I can't see my one game being enough - I assume that there are no claret members with no matches. Shame as my next game was supposed to be Sheffield United and I won't get to that midweek. I've got Palace booked in the diary. I might have to shell out for Wolves now. I did enjoy that in 2018 mind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exigo on January 29, 2020, 10:11:17 PM
I'm assuming we'll get the west side of Wembley this year, as the southernmost team. So expect to be piling into the Green Man at 8.45 again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on January 29, 2020, 10:40:15 PM
Any idea when the club will announce ticket criteria? I have Claret membership with 4 games (plus been to 2 games with no booking history from a friend with season ticket) so a bit concerned that I might not get a ticket. I got playoff final tickets with 6 games booking history over the whole season so hope it wonít be that high this time.

I think cup games will be part of the criteria to qualify for tickets ... I.e  C&B member with 7 games of which 2 must be home cup games
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on January 29, 2020, 10:41:21 PM
Back in November I booked a family holiday and guess what the flight to Istanbul departs BHX at 11.30 on 1 March :-\
A school boy error because as a supporter of a big club I should have checked out major event dates.
Iíve done the same but will be able to watch as itís mid trip.

Youíll have touched down in time all being well?

You might need to check out airport bar I reckon!

Taking off at KO time for the 2000 cup final was painful (and a few days of Likeky Lads result avoidance until a VHS arrived, how times have changed!)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on January 29, 2020, 10:45:37 PM
Sunday 1 March. 4.30pm kick off.
City- prepare to meet your doom.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 29, 2020, 11:49:08 PM
I'm assuming we'll get the west side of Wembley this year, as the southernmost team. So expect to be piling into the Green Man at 8.45 again.
I'm not sure exactly how it works, but we had the same end for both Fulham and Derby; so any north-south rule didn't come into effect for those matches.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 29, 2020, 11:52:42 PM
I think they prefer us west end of the stadium as so many go on Chiltern and can be got away quickly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on January 30, 2020, 12:07:11 AM
The M40 plays a big factor - Whoever makes most use of the M40 (traveling west out of London) gets the West end.  I'm fairly certain we'll have the Green Man again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 30, 2020, 07:49:55 AM
M40 is like our own personal motorway to Wembley. Very farsighted the road planners were back in the day!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 30, 2020, 08:38:02 AM
Box Park was good last year as an alternative to the Green.  Hope we'll be allocated that again.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on January 30, 2020, 02:25:27 PM
Box Park was good last year as an alternative to the Green.  Hope we'll be allocated that again.



I went to Boxpark as well. Had a fab time in there!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 30, 2020, 03:43:56 PM
Looks like we've got the west side again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 30, 2020, 03:47:20 PM
Where is this news coming from?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 30, 2020, 03:59:14 PM
Where is this news coming from?

Chrisw1 in the post above yours. ☺
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 30, 2020, 04:33:15 PM
Where is this news coming from?
It's all over twitter
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 30, 2020, 06:14:33 PM
People have cottoned on that for, £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members.

A minor point but it's £35, not £25.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 30, 2020, 06:30:55 PM
It's a sign of how things have changed that we regard Man U as easier opponents than Citeh.

It's a sign of the times had we being playing Man Utd we'd be discussing the Civic Reception Victory Parade rather than tickets and transport.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 30, 2020, 06:38:59 PM
Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history.  People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that.  They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.

'Cottoned on'? It's the entire point of the scheme. What else is it for other than queue avoidance? And fwiw, I don't think anybody got it with no intention of going other than if we made a final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 30, 2020, 07:00:25 PM
Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history.  People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that.  They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.

'Cottoned on'? It's the entire point of the scheme. What else is it for other than queue avoidance? And fwiw, I don't think anybody got it with no intention of going other than if we made a final.
That's my point.  For the two play-off finals it was a fairly little known way to be in with a chance to get a ticket.  Pay your 35 quid and trump anybody with a 15 game history.

This season it became more of a necessicity to even get tickets for league games, so loads of people have now got it. 

When everyone's super, no one is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on January 30, 2020, 07:22:42 PM
I think a chunk of Season Ticket holders will look at the costs, who we're playing & decide to sit it out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on January 30, 2020, 07:33:06 PM
Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history.  People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that.  They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.

'Cottoned on'? It's the entire point of the scheme. What else is it for other than queue avoidance? And fwiw, I don't think anybody got it with no intention of going other than if we made a final.
That's my point.  For the two play-off finals it was a fairly little known way to be in with a chance to get a ticket.  Pay your 35 quid and trump anybody with a 15 game history.

This season it became more of a necessicity to even get tickets for league games, so loads of people have now got it. 

When everyone's super, no one is.

Genuine question - who should get a ticket first. A Claret Club member who paid £25 and had attended no games or a non-Claret Club member whoís attended 1 game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 30, 2020, 07:37:53 PM
Ahem. Claret + 1 game. Definitely. No question about it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 30, 2020, 07:39:37 PM
FWIW, as a claret member, for various reasons I can (and only really desire to) get to a limited number of home games, being those played at the traditional time of 3pm on a Saturday, which enables me to enjoy a properly good old fashioned day out in Brum/at the Villa. Without claret membership I would not really be able to do this, which is why I bought it.  To be honest, a match at Wembley, even a cup final, is something I think I'd enjoy probably more from the comfort of my own living room than actually being there.  As the next couple of weeks go by I may start to feel differently, but I don't think I will. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on January 30, 2020, 07:42:56 PM
Ahem. Claret + 1 game. Definitely. No question about it.

I guess that was my point. I understand Claret Membership has a fee and you can get some benefits (a membership pack when it turns up etc!) but there will be other fans who choose to attend 1 game a season instead for the same price give or take a few quid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2020, 07:51:14 PM
I doubt many, if any, bought the membership purely for use with a cup final. Plus I think it's likely they'll go through members using a criteria. So for example, ST holders, members with 8 games, members with 3 games, members.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on January 30, 2020, 07:57:14 PM
I doubt many, if any, bought the membership purely for use with a cup final. Plus I think it's likely they'll go through members using a criteria. So for example, ST holders, members with 8 games, members with 3 games, members.

That's he way I see/hope its goes .
TBF they normally get it spot on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 30, 2020, 08:02:19 PM
As others have said I got my membership purely for ease of booking league games what with the high number of ST holders this year. For me it was worth it as I knew Iíd go to a lot of games but still miss a few making it not worth getting a ST. A Wembley appearance is a bonus!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 30, 2020, 08:07:56 PM
So, confirmed as 4.30pm kick off, and we have the West bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 30, 2020, 08:09:25 PM
"Following the conclusion of the Semi-Finals, Aston Villa and Manchester City will meet in the Carabao Cup Final at Wembley Stadium in a bid to win the first piece of silverware of the season.

The game will take place on Sunday 1 March at Wembley with a confirmed kick-off time of 4:30pm. Aston Villa fans will be housed in the West End of the stadium, with Manchester City occupying the East End.

Manchester City secured a place in their third-straight Carabao Cup Final courtesy of a narrow 3-2 aggregate victory against local rivals Manchester United, whereas Aston Villa made it two trips to the National Stadium in less than 12 months following an enthralling, last-minute winner against Leicester City.

Tickets for the Carabao Cup Final can only be purchased directly from the two finalist Clubs and are not available from either the EFL or from Wembley Stadium."
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 30, 2020, 08:22:01 PM
Ahem. Claret + 1 game. Definitely. No question about it.

I guess that was my point. I understand Claret Membership has a fee and you can get some benefits (a membership pack when it turns up etc!) but there will be other fans who choose to attend 1 game a season instead for the same price give or take a few quid.
I said that because I'm a Claret Member who has just the one game on his booking history this season (Norwich). ;-)

Now, given that I live as far away from Birmingham as you can get on the French mainland, I can only see myself getting to two or three games in a season. A Claret Membership is worth it for that. I'd understand if one game is not enough for me to buy a League Cup final ticket but if it is then yes please!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sdwbvf on January 30, 2020, 08:55:19 PM
I'm with Bad English. I buy to make sure I can get a few games. I can't get to any except 3pm Saturday and then not many of those. I even miss some of the TV games by not being able to be on the sofa. I originally got my membership to go to the Fulham away game in 2018. Never realised it would get me to Wembley but was glad it did for the last 2 years. I can't imagine members with 1 will get anywhere near this year, but then I didn't expect to see a cup final this year. If I can get a ticket I'll be there with bells on - well a scarf and hat anyway.

If I can't then the sofa is booked and the children will be joining me (they don't like watching on TV much - not as good as going to Villa Park) just as they would be at Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: themossman on January 30, 2020, 08:59:51 PM
As others have said I got my membership purely for ease of booking league games what with the high number of ST holders this year. For me it was worth it as I knew Iíd go to a lot of games but still miss a few making it not worth getting a ST. A Wembley appearance is a bonus!

Same here. And it rankled slightly having to join to get tickets for bog standard homes games when there werenít any issues in the championship. But then, A. We all want the club to be commercially savvy so if they can charge fans more for the same thing based on demand itís sort of fair enough, and B. Once your get into the whole better fan than yow nonsense it leads nowhere useful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on January 30, 2020, 09:00:14 PM
Ahem. Claret + 1 game. Definitely. No question about it.

I guess that was my point. I understand Claret Membership has a fee and you can get some benefits (a membership pack when it turns up etc!) but there will be other fans who choose to attend 1 game a season instead for the same price give or take a few quid.
I said that because I'm a Claret Member who has just the one game on his booking history this season (Norwich). ;-)

Now, given that I live as far away from Birmingham as you can get on the French mainland, I can only see myself getting to two or three games in a season. A Claret Membership is worth it for that. I'd understand if one game is not enough for me to buy a League Cup final ticket but if it is then yes please!

To be fair youíre the kind of fan Iím thinking of!
Itís tough as demand will always outstrip supply and how to allocate is not easy.

Not suggesting anyone is more deserving than others but there a lot of fans who canít get to games for valid reasons who would make the effort. And I guess as someone else pointed out season tickets holders who wouldnít take up their guaranteed seat based on cost and opposition.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on January 30, 2020, 09:17:08 PM
Iíve been a member since it was introduced as Villa cash, mainly because I canít make every game especially midweek or games changed by sky, but wanted the chance to go to away games as well as home games. Itís certainly been a worthwhile investment over the years, this year not so much as even STís are missing out on away games. I donít think anyone realistically thought we would be having a Wembley trip this year, but itís definitely a bonus, hope my 6 game booking history is enough this year, if not, then so be it as Iím sure they will be distributed as fair as possible. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 30, 2020, 10:35:36 PM
Iíve been a member since it was introduced as Villa cash, mainly because I canít make every game especially midweek or games changed by sky, but wanted the chance to go to away games as well as home games. Itís certainly been a worthwhile investment over the years, this year not so much as even STís are missing out on away games. I donít think anyone realistically thought we would be having a Wembley trip this year, but itís definitely a bonus, hope my 6 game booking history is enough this year, if not, then so be it as Iím sure they will be distributed as fair as possible. UTV

Iíd be amazed if Claret members with 6 games didnít qualify, good luck though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 31, 2020, 04:23:46 PM
Ticket info released on the OS. Though it won't load the page for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 31, 2020, 04:25:08 PM
Season Ticket holders from 2015/16 -  Tues 4th Feb 5.00pm (online)
Season Ticjket holders from 2019/20 - Tues 11th Feb 5.00pm (online)
Claret members -                               Tues 18th Feb 5.00pm (online)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 31, 2020, 04:26:05 PM
Thought they may bring in an attendance layer within Claret members, but that will be a bit of a bun fight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 31, 2020, 04:26:19 PM
From OS

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Aston Villa is pleased to confirm ticket information to supporters for the Carabao Cup Final at Wembley Stadium on Sunday 1st March 2020.

The club have been allocated 33,095 tickets for the West End of Wembley, where they will face Manchester City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on January 31, 2020, 04:26:35 PM
If we've 8k claret members it'll be a bit of a bun fight. I thought you'd need games as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 31, 2020, 04:29:14 PM
Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them.  Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 31, 2020, 04:31:22 PM
Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 31, 2020, 04:34:22 PM
Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.

Assuming they exist.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: charleeco7 on January 31, 2020, 04:38:49 PM
Not as stringent as I thought it would be but then itís not that long until the final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 31, 2020, 04:42:49 PM
Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them.  Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.

It's a nice little nod to those that kept up their season ticket through the dark times. And that's from someone that's now got to wait thanks to his Johnny-come-lately nephew.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on January 31, 2020, 04:43:02 PM
The ticket prices are astronomical- can see alot of people being put off paying those prices to see us likely get whopped by city in their minds
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 31, 2020, 04:45:39 PM
Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.

Agreed. No idea why they've done that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 31, 2020, 04:49:06 PM
The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history.  I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 31, 2020, 04:49:19 PM
What are the ticket prices? Can't get the link to work.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 31, 2020, 04:51:36 PM
The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history.  I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.

It should be as well as, not in place of. Claret Members who have been to a dozen games have invested more than those who have attended none and should be treated as such. At least then everyone can see that it's fair. This way lots of claret members who have been to many games will end up getting disillusioned and may not bother again. We need to keep the regular attendees sweet as we will need them to fill the ground when we expand.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on January 31, 2020, 04:52:26 PM
£100, £90, £72, £56, £40

categories same as for playoff final
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: lennythekad on January 31, 2020, 04:53:07 PM
This is a fuckin outrage. Me and my sons have missed two homes out of 15 As Claret members and weíve got the same chance as someone with a membership whoís been to a tiny number of games.
They should have at least split the members allocation, at eight or more games and under eight games.
You just know the system will crash and people will put tickets in their basket only to find them gone before they can pay.
The usual large scale fuckwittery from the club where tickets are concerned 😡😡😡😡
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: lennythekad on January 31, 2020, 04:54:29 PM
The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history.  I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.

It should be as well as, not in place of. Claret Members who have been to a dozen games have invested more than those who have attended none and should be treated as such. At least then everyone can see that it's fair. This way lots of claret members who have been to many games will end up getting disillusioned and may not bother again. We need to keep the regular attendees sweet as we will need them to fill the ground when we expand.

Add me to the disillusioned, mate. Not happy one bit!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 31, 2020, 04:56:13 PM
The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history.  I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.

It should be as well as, not in place of. Claret Members who have been to a dozen games have invested more than those who have attended none and should be treated as such. At least then everyone can see that it's fair. This way lots of claret members who have been to many games will end up getting disillusioned and may not bother again. We need to keep the regular attendees sweet as we will need them to fill the ground when we expand.
It's never been 'as well as' before.  Last year a Claret Member could buy ahead of someone with a 15 game history.  Whether that's right or wrong it is the way it was.  I can see how they feel it would be difficult to change it this time round.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dazvillain on January 31, 2020, 04:59:09 PM
Clever marketing from the club announcing this now and taking our mind off nil strikers arriving today
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 31, 2020, 05:00:41 PM
What's the point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 31, 2020, 05:05:25 PM
The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history.  I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.

It should be as well as, not in place of. Claret Members who have been to a dozen games have invested more than those who have attended none and should be treated as such. At least then everyone can see that it's fair. This way lots of claret members who have been to many games will end up getting disillusioned and may not bother again. We need to keep the regular attendees sweet as we will need them to fill the ground when we expand.
It's never been 'as well as' before.  Last year a Claret Member could buy ahead of someone with a 15 game history.  Whether that's right or wrong it is the way it was.  I can see how they feel it would be difficult to change it this time round.

Last year Claret Members were more or less guaranteed tickets as we didn't have so many Season Ticket holders.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 31, 2020, 05:11:11 PM
Must admit Iím a bit gutted as a claret member whoís only missed a few games in the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on January 31, 2020, 05:18:40 PM
Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them.  Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.

It's a nice little nod to those that kept up their season ticket through the dark times. And that's from someone that's now got to wait thanks to his Johnny-come-lately nephew.

No it isnít. Those who stuck with it would have been there in the championship.

The way itís structured, someone could have deserted on relegation, returned this season and have priority over those who committed in the championship.

Same with the claret and blue members where demand will outstrip availability. Itís just Villa doing what suits them best as usual.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 31, 2020, 05:20:40 PM
Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them.  Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.

It's a nice little nod to those that kept up their season ticket through the dark times. And that's from someone that's now got to wait thanks to his Johnny-come-lately nephew.

No it isnít. Those who stuck with it would have been there in the championship.

The way itís structured, someone could have deserted on relegation, returned this season and have priority over those who committed in the championship.

Same with the claret and blue members where demand will outstrip availability. Itís just Villa doing what suits them best as usual.
The first layer is people who have had a ST uninterupted since 15/16, I just couldn't be bothered to type that bit out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on January 31, 2020, 05:25:22 PM
Official coach ticket question. My dad and I are eligible in the first window. My step son isnt eligible until the second window.
Can I buy all of our coach tickets together? Will the online system allow me to do that?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: 144 Hard Boiled Eggs on January 31, 2020, 05:28:45 PM
Which clown at the club decided on this ticket criteria? There needs to be a purchase window for Claret members who have been to most of the home games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on January 31, 2020, 05:30:34 PM
Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them.  Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.

It's a nice little nod to those that kept up their season ticket through the dark times. And that's from someone that's now got to wait thanks to his Johnny-come-lately nephew.

No it isnít. Those who stuck with it would have been there in the championship.

The way itís structured, someone could have deserted on relegation, returned this season and have priority over those who committed in the championship.

Same with the claret and blue members where demand will outstrip availability. Itís just Villa doing what suits them best as usual.
The first layer is people who have had a ST uninterupted since 15/16, I just couldn't be bothered to type that bit out.

Thatís fair enough then.

Seems silly to only have 2 criteras though. They have more for a 3000 away allocation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: archie hunter on January 31, 2020, 05:39:16 PM
My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. Iíve been told that I wonít be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 31, 2020, 05:41:49 PM
My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. Iíve been told that I wonít be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?

I'd buy the ticket anyway, then try some sort of trade with somebody who wants to take their son/daughter to the match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2020, 05:48:54 PM
My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. Iíve been told that I wonít be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?

Who's told you that? We had no problems last season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on January 31, 2020, 05:54:38 PM
This is a fuckin outrage. Me and my sons have missed two homes out of 15 As Claret members and we’ve got the same chance as someone with a membership who’s been to a tiny number of games.
They should have at least split the members allocation, at eight or more games and under eight games.
You just know the system will crash and people will put tickets in their basket only to find them gone before they can pay.
The usual large scale fuckwittery from the club where tickets are concerned 😡😡😡😡

Totally agree, it's a bloody rubbish policy. Loyalty isn't rewarded for members who have attended games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on January 31, 2020, 05:54:52 PM
My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. Iíve been told that I wonít be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?
I'd say that is correct.
But now demand is a lot higher they will be more stringent & not turn a blind eye as previously.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: archie hunter on January 31, 2020, 06:00:16 PM
My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. Iíve been told that I wonít be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?

Who's told you that? We had no problems last season.

Ticket office this afternoon. Guy sounded flustered though!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on January 31, 2020, 06:03:32 PM
I'm a season ticket holder, my son at Uni in Bristol a Member. He has been to a lot of games but will now have to join the lottery with other members. It should definitely be based on attendance criteria. I will end up giving him my ticket if he doesn't get one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2020, 06:04:42 PM
My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. Iíve been told that I wonít be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?

Who's told you that? We had no problems last season.

Ticket office this afternoon. Guy sounded flustered though!

If that's the case I wonder if you can buy the child one them upgrade later?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on January 31, 2020, 06:07:27 PM
I understand splitting the ST criteria just so that all 30k donít crash the system at the same time, but if the figures are correct and we have 8k members for the remaining 3k tickets, it will obviously be unfair on the ones who do miss out as some will have gone to a lot of games. Maybe they are banking on the fact that not all STís will claim there ticket
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on January 31, 2020, 06:10:06 PM
PRAVDA says you can buy them online or over the phone only

You cant buy them in person from the Ticket Office
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on January 31, 2020, 06:11:02 PM
I understand splitting the ST criteria just so that all 30k donít crash the system at the same time, but if the figures are correct and we have 8k members for the remaining 3k tickets, it will obviously be unfair on the ones who do miss out as some will have gone to a lot of games. Maybe they are banking on the fact that not all STís will claim there ticket

Certainly not all claret members will claim their ticket - still, stupid to have this as a free for all though!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on January 31, 2020, 06:15:52 PM
There's no system to please everyone.

Being a Claret member gives priority over someone who isn't, that was the deal.

It may make people think again, but with the demand for tickets increasing, I suspect the system won't change.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: rogfromb6 on January 31, 2020, 06:16:16 PM
There will be a number of season ticket holders who canít/donít want to go for whatever reason and the same with claret members. If there are 8000 claret members Iíd be surprised if the majority  who wanted one didnít get a ticket.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 31, 2020, 06:21:43 PM
Maybe it's why we did the decent thing in abstaining from that FA Cup thingy this year. Imagine the club trying to sort that out!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on January 31, 2020, 06:25:12 PM
There was no difference between the kids and adult tickets for the play off final and no one checking on the turnstiles.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on January 31, 2020, 06:30:08 PM
There is a fourth criteria on the list for ppl with 3+ games so may be they think thereís a chance for those that donít have Claret membership...or just giving non Claret members false hope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on January 31, 2020, 06:57:53 PM
I also think season ticket holders in the cup scheme should have some sort of priority as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on January 31, 2020, 07:24:04 PM
There was no difference between the kids and adult tickets for the play off final and no one checking on the turnstiles.

I know someone who bought a kids ticket off a tout and got in no problem.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sdwbvf on January 31, 2020, 07:30:59 PM
I also think season ticket holders in the cup scheme should have some sort of priority as well.

All season ticket holders will get a ticket if they want one. It's about not crashing the system. Two weeks to get your ticket in before Members sale. The members sale will be manic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sdwbvf on January 31, 2020, 07:36:12 PM
There's a lot of it's not fair comments. I would love to go to more games but can't. I was going to go to the Sheffield United game but that's out now. Living in London, it would be great to get to some away games down here, but as a non season ticket holder I have no chance. That's the way it works. I don't complain about it, I just take my chances when I can. If I can get a ticket for the final I will, if I can't I'll watch on TV. Atmosphere isn't as good but at least its warm, the food and drink are cheaper and I won't have to queue at Wembley Park afterwards!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2020, 07:39:41 PM
Makes no odds to me as I won't be going but it's obviously unfair that someone that is a claret member and done 10 games this season could miss out on a ticket while a claret member that has been to no games gets one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sdwbvf on January 31, 2020, 07:45:18 PM
Are there any members with no games. It seems a waste of money to me. It's not like you get anything for your 35 quid apart from the ability to buy tickets first. The kids do better. They both like the ball anyway!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exigo on January 31, 2020, 08:27:10 PM
Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.

Assuming they exist.

I know of at least one. He lives in America, and bought a membership knowing that he'd need it for any weekend he travelled back home wanting to get a game in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on January 31, 2020, 08:41:44 PM
Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.

Assuming they exist.

I know of at least one. He lives in America, and bought a membership knowing that he'd need it for any weekend he travelled back home wanting to get a game in.

I have a mate that lives in America that does the same. Coming from Atlanta he's managed to do 5 homes this season and Watford and Burnley away.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on January 31, 2020, 08:43:55 PM
Makes no odds to me as I won't be going but it's obviously unfair that someone that is a claret member and done 10 games this season could miss out on a ticket while a claret member that has been to no games gets one.
It's not obvioulsy unfair in my view.  Or no more so than a Claret Member getting tickets ahead of people with 15 games last year at least.  t's the basis Claret Memeberships have worked for the last few years and the basis they were sold on this year as Drummond says.  Changing the goalposts now would be unfair.

If it was made clear there would be a loyalty tier system before they sell Claret memberships next year, then that will be fair.

Personally I think they should probbaly scratch Claret Memberships next year, but that's another issue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 31, 2020, 08:44:41 PM
Good effort that.

There was a Southampton fan, still might be, that was a season ticket holder that flew to every home game from New York.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 31, 2020, 08:45:15 PM
I am a claret member and have been to 3 games at VP this season.  I hope to get to 2 more this season if, that is, we have as many as 2 games being played at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon.  I may be wrong, but I would kind of hope and expect that a claret member who has attended as many as 12 games at VP will have the 'momentum' needed to acquire a ticket for the final.  For me personally, as a claret member, were I to be given the choice of a ticket to the league cup final or a ticket to Villa v Sheffield United I would choose the Villa v Sheffield United game; and I for one don't anticipate wanting to apply for a ticket to the final.

If nothing else, I hope that meandering post will give the 12 game or so claret members a bit of cause for optimism of getting a ticket to the final. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 31, 2020, 08:46:08 PM
Good effort that.

There was a Southampton fan, still might be, that was a season ticket holder that flew to every home game from New York.

Clearly had far too much money.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 31, 2020, 08:47:43 PM
Yeah he can't have been short of a bob or two. Some level of dedication though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 31, 2020, 08:58:33 PM
It should be done on games attended, I have done 5 home games and expect to do a few more, I will apply for a Final Ticket but wonít be too concerned if I donít get one. I am still recovering from the Arsenal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2020, 09:05:04 PM
Are there any members with no games. It seems a waste of money to me. It's not like you get anything for your 35 quid apart from the ability to buy tickets first. The kids do better. They both like the ball anyway!

Probably is, one thing is for sure, there'll be plenty that have done 0-2, and they have the same chance of a ticket as those that have done a dozen at home and 8 aways. I don't see how anyone can think that's fair.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 31, 2020, 09:10:22 PM
Blimey, there's some low opinions of fellow supporters on here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 31, 2020, 09:12:23 PM
Rogers Official  complaint to the Referees about the Nakambahandball, ď the clearest handball youíll ever seeĒ he also wants clarification.
What a twat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 31, 2020, 09:28:06 PM
Rogers Official  complaint to the Referees about the Nakambahandball, ď the clearest handball youíll ever seeĒ he also wants clarification.
What a twat.

Dear Mr Rogers,

Thank you for your recent enquiry. To clarify, we don't think it was handball.

Regards,

The FA
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 31, 2020, 09:30:59 PM
Good effort that.

There was a Southampton fan, still might be, that was a season ticket holder that flew to every home game from New York.

I have vague recollections of a story on the TV in the 1980s of a Dutchman who drove over from Holland  to every Stoke home game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nodge on January 31, 2020, 09:36:48 PM
Man City have Cat 1-5 tickets but also sell the £125 and £150 club Wembley seats as seats only (premium 1 and 2). Any idea how we sell our club Wembley seats?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 31, 2020, 09:37:45 PM
Man City have Cat 1-5 tickets but also sell the £125 and £150 club Wembley seats as seats only (premium 1 and 2). Any idea how we sell our club Wembley seats?

Iíd imagine theyíll go to the Corporate customers wonít they?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on January 31, 2020, 09:42:17 PM
Are there any members with no games. It seems a waste of money to me. It's not like you get anything for your 35 quid apart from the ability to buy tickets first. The kids do better. They both like the ball anyway!

Probably is, one thing is for sure, there'll be plenty that have done 0-2, and they have the same chance of a ticket as those that have done a dozen at home and 8 aways. I don't see how anyone can think that's fair.

I donít think its fair and I canít actually imagine claret members in the 0-2 bracket actually claiming it was unfair if they were told claret members with more games had priority over them. They are only in a mad bunfight with less than a half chance anyway!

On the positive side - of the 3 claret members in my family, only one of them might try for tickets so on that sample maybe theyíll be a lot less than 8000 trying.

My Dad had his so I could get him a ticket for the Southampton game, but he hates stairs so he wonít go to Wembley. My nephew is a cub and loves going to Villa Park but the Wembley experience would be wasted on him as yet.

I think there are a lot who can only get to one or 2 games because they live a distance away and may not be going for tickets.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nodge on January 31, 2020, 09:43:58 PM
I suppose Man City go there that often the corporates donít sell so well. I imagine thereíll be a lot more Villa in club Wembley
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2020, 09:44:54 PM
I suppose Man City go there that often the corporates donít sell so well. I imagine thereíll be a lot more Villa in club Wembley

One touting site has our tickets starting at £235 and theirs at £80.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2020, 09:51:59 PM
In 2010 tout tickets in the Manure end were at least half the price of ones in the Villa end.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2020, 09:57:21 PM
I should point out to be on the safe side that I am not in any way knocking people who do 1-2 (for example) games, just that i'm a firm believer that the more games a person does the higher up the priority list they should be. To me that's the fairest way.

I'll also say I don't have a dog in this fight as for personal reasons I have done 0 games this season, and won't be trying to get a ticket. But if i'd bought a membership i'd think it was unfair that I had the same chance of getting a ticket having done 0 games as someone that's done most of the games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2020, 09:59:03 PM
Anyone who buys a membership at the start of any season just in the hope of getting a cup final ticket deserves one for blind optimism.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 31, 2020, 10:04:43 PM
What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? Itís hard I think to call.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2020, 10:06:34 PM
What if someone from Europe gets to 4

Joey Tempest can afford to do more games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on January 31, 2020, 10:21:35 PM
What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? Itís hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 31, 2020, 10:24:19 PM
The fairest system would be for them to give all the tickets to me for free and then I sell them to the highest bidder.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 31, 2020, 10:42:44 PM
The first cup game with them was in 1900.

We drew at theirs and then won the replay at Villa Park 3-0.

Billy Garraty (Jacks Great Grandad) scored two of the goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 01, 2020, 12:17:07 AM
I suppose Man City go there that often the corporates donít sell so well. I imagine thereíll be a lot more Villa in club Wembley

One touting site has our tickets starting at £235 and theirs at £80.
A mate of mine knows a tout and itís all about supply and demand. This may well be our fifth trip to Wembley in 5 Years but Man City are well above that. IIRC they had trouble shifting tickets for the more glamorous F.A. Cup final so we should probably be more keen than them to get tickets, despite the expected result.

Despite their success they are still primarily a club with local support, just like us. I donít thinkthey are yet challenging Liverpool Manyoo or Arsenal for global supremacy
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on February 01, 2020, 12:27:49 AM
Personally I think they should probbaly scratch Claret Memberships next year, but that's another issue.

Given FFP and the apparent need to generate our own income, it seems hard to imagine theyíd  turn down the chance to create 1/4 million £.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on February 01, 2020, 12:34:04 AM
Are there any members with no games. It seems a waste of money to me. It's not like you get anything for your 35 quid apart from the ability to buy tickets first. The kids do better. They both like the ball anyway!

Probably is, one thing is for sure, there'll be plenty that have done 0-2, and they have the same chance of a ticket as those that have done a dozen at home and 8 aways. I don't see how anyone can think that's fair.
You've changed your tune since the beginning of the season!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2020, 12:37:21 AM
Don't think I have, i've always thought it should be priority for those that go to the most games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on February 01, 2020, 12:45:03 AM
As everyone has moaned about claret members getting the 2nd dibs at tickets for the just few years, you would have thought that by now everyone knew the score and would get one, £35 is hardly out of the reach of people who go to games regularly. If any claret members only got it for a Wembley ticket, it is deserved for the optimism
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2020, 12:51:10 AM
I think it was 2015 when membership became a noticeable advantage, back then it was Villa Cash.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 01, 2020, 07:41:09 AM
If last summer you managed to battle through to getting a membership and then decided to only use it in the event of a cup final, hats off to you for your tenacity and optimism.

Personally, if I was going to change it, first dibs would be amongst 30,000 that went to the Wolves game and the 25,000 that turned up for Liverpool in the competition that we've now reached the final of.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 01, 2020, 08:32:02 AM
What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? Itís hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!

I understand that and you are right. But I sometimes think that fans who travel a long distance, should get some kind of acknowledgement, I take a 30 minute train journey, not a six hour drive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on February 01, 2020, 08:50:39 AM
I got a membership because it gives me a chance of getting a ticket. I've got one game in this season and I'm going to another in April. I need two tickets and I'm going to try and get one on my membership and hope someone else can get hold of one for me. I put that in bold so you'd all see it better. ;-)

I wouldn't moan if they made up a Cup final rule about number of games on your reference for a ticket. But they haven't so may luck be upon you!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exigo on February 01, 2020, 08:57:35 AM
What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? Itís hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!

I understand that and you are right. But I sometimes think that fans who travel a long distance, should get some kind of acknowledgement, I take a 30 minute train journey, not a six hour drive.

I've done 5,339 miles so far this season, and even I don't think that would be a way fair to do it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 01, 2020, 09:38:51 AM
I think most claret members who want one will probably get one.  There could well be a 1,000 or so ST holders who donít tale up a ticket and there will be plenty of claret members who donít.  It will be tight, but if your a claret youíve got a good chance
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 01, 2020, 09:40:53 AM
I think most claret members who want one will probably get one.  There could well be a 1,000 or so ST holders who donít tale up a ticket and there will be plenty of claret members who donít.  It will be tight, but if your a claret youíve got a good chance

I'm not so sure on that.  I would think most season ticket holders would know somebody who'd want to go if they couldn't and would take their ticket.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 01, 2020, 09:44:50 AM
Yeah, maybe.  Still, not all claret members so odds will be better than 3 in 8
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on February 01, 2020, 09:48:45 AM
What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? Itís hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!

So Randy Lerner should be front of the queue?

The rules of Claret membership were clear at the start of the season, you can't look to change them now we've reached a final.

Also why don't those with claret membership and 12 home league matches just buy a ST at the start of the season?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on February 01, 2020, 10:10:27 AM
Been a season ticket holder since 1989, hopefully they will have the correct records for everyone who has had one since 2015, I do worry that I will apply next week and be told that I have not had a season ticket for the correct amount of time!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on February 01, 2020, 10:13:10 AM
What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? Itís hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!

So Randy Lerner should be front of the queue?

The rules of Claret membership were clear at the start of the season, you can't look to change them now we've reached a final.

Also why don't those with claret membership and 12 home league matches just buy a ST at the start of the season?
1, Yes that's exactly what I meant
2, what rules ?
3, Peoples circumstances change/dictate not being able to buy a season ticket at the time they were on sale ?

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 01, 2020, 10:39:58 AM
The tickets are very expensive.  Alot of people will not pay those prices to see us likely lose and possibly heavily.

I think there will be a lot of avaialbility for claret members to be honest
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 01, 2020, 10:43:31 AM
The tickets are very expensive.  Alot of people will not pay those prices to see us likely lose and possibly heavily.

I think there will be a lot of avaialbility for claret members to be honest

Thatís the spirit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 01, 2020, 11:26:49 AM
What's the point, we're going to get battered beyond embarrassment anyway   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
just trying to help in putting people off...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2020, 11:37:34 AM
The tickets are very expensive.  Alot of people will not pay those prices to see us likely lose and possibly heavily.

I think there will be a lot of avaialbility for claret members to be honest

We'll sell out comfortably. Man City wont.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: DB on February 01, 2020, 11:38:45 AM
I am a claret member and been to 7 home games. I am not expecting to get a ticket.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2020, 11:49:24 AM
It's never been harder to get a ticket down the Villa. Every league game has been 40k plus and not a single away game has reached general sale.

We're in a final, it doesn't matter who we are playing or how much it costs, we haven't forgot who we are. This is in contrast to our opponents who sent tickets back for the semi final of the FA Cup and didn't sell out the League Cup game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 01, 2020, 11:52:32 AM
I am a claret member and been to 7 home games. I am not expecting to get a ticket.

How fast is your internet? Cos that's what it'll probably come down to.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on February 01, 2020, 12:15:53 PM
there's a seat near me that no one ever sits in, for about maybe 8 years. We've enquired about it in the past trying to get it for friends etc. apparently someone down south keeps renewing. Surely the best way to secure a Wembley ticket :D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on February 01, 2020, 01:27:15 PM
I think most claret members who want one will probably get one.  There could well be a 1,000 or so ST holders who donít tale up a ticket and there will be plenty of claret members who donít.  It will be tight, but if your a claret youíve got a good chance

I'm not so sure on that.  I would think most season ticket holders would know somebody who'd want to go if they couldn't and would take their ticket.
You might want to revaluate that. According to AVFC support on Twitter, there are 28000 club members.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sdwbvf on February 01, 2020, 01:50:45 PM
If that's the case then either there's a lot who haven't been this year or not many who have been ro multiple matches. Also no surprise they were overwhelmed at the start of the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 01, 2020, 01:57:12 PM
there's a seat near me that no one ever sits in, for about maybe 8 years. We've enquired about it in the past trying to get it for friends etc. apparently someone down south keeps renewing. Surely the best way to secure a Wembley ticket :D

The bloke who has the seat two away from me probably only attends one game in three.

He never resells it or offers the seat to others in our section. If he's not there, it just sits empty.

This has been going on since the new TR was built
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2020, 02:10:20 PM
I really don't see us having 28k members.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on February 01, 2020, 02:20:44 PM
I really don't see us having 28k members.

Probably over half of those are kids
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 01, 2020, 05:11:51 PM
I really don't see us having 28k members.

Either do i. 28k members and 30k st holders no chance.

No hope of winningvthis with garbage performances like today
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 01, 2020, 06:23:37 PM
I think most claret members who want one will probably get one.  There could well be a 1,000 or so ST holders who donít tale up a ticket and there will be plenty of claret members who donít.  It will be tight, but if your a claret youíve got a good chance

I'm not so sure on that.  I would think most season ticket holders would know somebody who'd want to go if they couldn't and would take their ticket.
You might want to revaluate that. According to AVFC support on Twitter, there are 28000 club members.
oh, for some reason I thought it was 8,000.  Yeah, if it's 28,000 you're all fucked ;-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lsvilla on February 01, 2020, 06:29:17 PM
there's a seat near me that no one ever sits in, for about maybe 8 years. We've enquired about it in the past trying to get it for friends etc. apparently someone down south keeps renewing. Surely the best way to secure a Wembley ticket :D

The bloke who has the seat two away from me probably only attends one game in three.

He never resells it or offers the seat to others in our section. If he's not there, it just sits empty.

This has been going on since the new TR was built
Met a fella at the test match in Mt Maunganui once of Redditch and who lives in Hong Kong - keeps his ST and makes max 3 games a season
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 01, 2020, 06:59:53 PM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on February 01, 2020, 07:11:53 PM
I think it is a bit optimistic to assume that a decent number of season ticket holders won't buy a ticket. I haven't heard a single one say they won't go.
There will obviously be a few who can't make it for whatever reason but I would bet that they have a friend / family member who can!
If I couldn't make it I know for a fact that I would pass my ticket on to someone.
I have a mate who lives in Yorkshire and he has a Claret membership. He did that to try and get tickets for games and he has travelled down to a few this season. He is hopeful of getting a final ticket and good luck to him.
It will be a scramble for the remaining 3000 or so and good luck to all!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2020, 07:14:52 PM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket

You're not going then?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on February 01, 2020, 07:15:44 PM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
Really ??
Most tickets will be sold before we play again - we haven't got a game for 2 weeks!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 01, 2020, 11:52:31 PM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket

You're not going then?

Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 02, 2020, 08:18:27 AM
I booked my travel yesterday. Really not sure if I'll get tickets as a member but if I don't there's a few of us in the same boat so can watch together somewhere in the smoke.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 02, 2020, 09:24:52 AM
I booked my travel yesterday. Really not sure if I'll get tickets as a member but if I don't there's a few of us in the same boat so can watch together somewhere in the smoke.
Similar here - booked hotel but everything else depends on ticket and my health at the time - watched the play off final in the Arch Pub - it was mayhem
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 02, 2020, 10:14:18 AM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket

You're not going then?

Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.

Don't bother.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 02, 2020, 10:59:27 AM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket

You're not going then?

Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.

Don't bother.

Why ? Care to ellaborate?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 02, 2020, 11:05:18 AM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket

You're not going then?

Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.

Don't bother.

Why ? Care to ellaborate?

You've moaned constantly about how we're going to lose, and how expensive the tickets are. Let someone go who might enjoy themselves.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on February 02, 2020, 11:13:26 AM
I hope all the moaners and wingers don't go. Just leave it for the fans who will support the team whatever the score and not turn on players and management who are trying their best, even if a bit limited in their ability
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on February 02, 2020, 11:58:00 AM
I really don't see us having 28k members.
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on February 02, 2020, 12:23:28 PM
Pretty remarkable numbers, though I wonder how many are cubs. I wonder where the 8k came from, only 20k out :o
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 02, 2020, 01:20:23 PM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket

You're not going then?

Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.

Don't bother.

Why ? Care to ellaborate?

You've moaned constantly about how we're going to lose, and how expensive the tickets are. Let someone go who might enjoy themselves.

So expressing a opinion that i think we will lose as its city and pointing out that the wembley prices seem a bit steep (as others have said in him on other sites and all over villa groups on facebook) in your view should stay away from Wembley?

How utterly bizarre.  Your not in charge of selling tickets thankfully so you telling people who disagree with your opinion should stay away is irrelevent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 02, 2020, 01:23:11 PM
Aren't the prices the same as the playoff final?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 02, 2020, 01:49:19 PM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket

You're not going then?

Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.

Don't bother.

Why ? Care to ellaborate?

You've moaned constantly about how we're going to lose, and how expensive the tickets are. Let someone go who might enjoy themselves.

So expressing a opinion that i think we will lose as its city and pointing out that the wembley prices seem a bit steep (as others have said in him on other sites and all over villa groups on facebook) in your view should stay away from Wembley?

How utterly bizarre.  Your not in charge of selling tickets thankfully so you telling people who disagree with your opinion should stay away is irrelevent.

You have your opinion, I have mine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Luffbralion on February 02, 2020, 05:29:08 PM
If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket

You're not going then?

Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.

Don't bother.

Why ? Care to ellaborate?

You've moaned constantly about how we're going to lose, and how expensive the tickets are. Let someone go who might enjoy themselves.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on February 02, 2020, 06:46:17 PM
I'm definitely going to enjoy going to Wembley for a Cup Final watching the team I love and I reckon we have a chance to beat Man City always have faith in the team you support other wise what's the use of watching football if you have no faith or belief in them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 02, 2020, 08:01:16 PM
I'm with Darren. We aren't some non-league team there for a day out, we are Aston fucking Villa, FFS. Of course we are underdogs, but we were in 1887, 1913, 1957, 1982 and 1994 too. And the semi-final, come to think of it.

We have a chance. Let's fucking go for it and give them something to worry about.

If you can't bring yourself to attend a final because you're scared of losing you may as well get a different hobby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 02, 2020, 10:30:38 PM
I'm with Darren. We aren't some non-league team there for a day out, we are Aston fucking Villa, FFS. Of course we are underdogs, but we were in 1887, 1913, 1957, 1982 and 1994 too. And the semi-final, come to think of it.

We have a chance. Let's fucking go for it and give them something to worry about.

If you can't bring yourself to attend a final because you're scared of losing you may as well get a different hobby.

Not sure if that was directed at me but just vecause i dont think we will win does not mean i wont go. I mean we were not fancied vs arsenal and i atill went depsute the ghumping we recieved.

There are bigger arseholes selling tickets for £500+ if you go on some villa groups on fb. Those are the kknd of people not welcome for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on February 02, 2020, 11:07:56 PM
Just bloody go, stop making out you may not, because you will, and weíll put a smile on that face of yours too. Up the Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 03, 2020, 08:14:14 AM

If you can't bring yourself to attend a final because you're scared of losing you may as well get a different hobby.

A family member of mine has had a season ticket at the Albion for as long as I can remember.

He watched the play off semi final 2nd leg at home however as he couldnít bear the thought of actually being there if they got knocked out by Villa.

I still canít quite believe it either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 03, 2020, 09:08:14 AM

If you can't bring yourself to attend a final because you're scared of losing you may as well get a different hobby.

A family member of mine has had a season ticket at the Albion for as long as I can remember.

He watched the play off semi final 2nd leg at home however as he couldnít bear the thought of actually being there if they got knocked out by Villa.

I still canít quite believe it either.

What a epic game that was. I was there the scenes
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on February 03, 2020, 09:23:28 AM
can we have Shakira and J-lo for the half time entertainment at Wemberlee
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on February 03, 2020, 09:43:50 AM
I am looking forward to a brilliant day out, lets go there and win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 03, 2020, 11:26:37 AM
I am looking forward to a brilliant day out, lets go there and win!

Amen brother
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on February 03, 2020, 01:38:00 PM
Tom Hanks thinks we've already won so that'll do for me.

https://news.sky.com/story/tom-hanks-mocked-over-tweet-celebrating-aston-villas-carabao-cup-win-11924551
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hockley Lion on February 03, 2020, 05:34:27 PM
Good effort that.

There was a Southampton fan, still might be, that was a season ticket holder that flew to every home game from New York.

Clearly had far too much money.

Quite a carbon footprint too!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 03, 2020, 06:47:50 PM
Any news on tickets?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on February 03, 2020, 07:20:03 PM
Any news on tickets?

In what way mate ???
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on February 03, 2020, 07:28:06 PM
Tom Hanks thinks we've already won so that'll do for me.

https://news.sky.com/story/tom-hanks-mocked-over-tweet-celebrating-aston-villas-carabao-cup-win-11924551
Can you ask him if we stayed up? Iím dying to know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: themossman on February 03, 2020, 07:44:51 PM
As a claret member with a small booking history this year, I also think itís a bit crap that weíre in the mix with people who have been to a lot more games than us and I wouldnít have had any issues if it had been a combination of history and membership.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 03, 2020, 08:25:10 PM
Club shop selling half and half scarves. We laughed  at Blues for doing that ffs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 03, 2020, 08:33:22 PM
God forbid that the Villa should sell something that people want to buy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 03, 2020, 08:35:06 PM
Are you practicing for 'defend the indefensible' on R5 Fighting Talk?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on February 03, 2020, 08:38:34 PM
They're not for me at all but I dont have any issue with us selling them for cup finals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 03, 2020, 08:40:10 PM
God forbid that the Villa should sell something that people want to buy.

Why not go the whole hog then and start selling Liverpool and Man U merchandise for when they come to town?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 03, 2020, 08:41:36 PM
I blame the evil people who purchase these items rather than the sellers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 03, 2020, 08:43:35 PM
Oh I do like this site. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 03, 2020, 08:44:41 PM
The only legitimate use for a half and half scarf is as a makeshift noose for anyone who wants to wear one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 03, 2020, 08:45:59 PM
I'm hoping I'll want to buy one afterwards as a lasting memento of a glorious day.

Here's a thought. Maybe we're selling them as something for our ticketly-disappointed masses to wear 'incognito' in the east end of the ground...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 03, 2020, 08:51:48 PM
We have too many fans for our ground, this should be used to thin the numbers a bit. Anyone who buys one gets banned from Villa Park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 03, 2020, 08:52:39 PM
God forbid that the Villa should sell something that people want to buy.

Why not go the whole hog then and start selling Liverpool and Man U merchandise for when they come to town?



Might it have something to do with the fact that Manchester City aren't coming to town and we're playing then in a cup final?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 03, 2020, 09:43:38 PM
Nothing wrong with selling a Villa Cup Final scarf. I see no need to mention the opposition.

Did they sell half and half scarves with Fulham or Derby on them? I doubt it. Makes us look like a small-time bunch of daytrippers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 03, 2020, 09:57:38 PM
Pretty sure we did them for the Arsenal final. I can't stand half and half scarves but there's obviously some that do so it seems logical that it's the club that takes their money rather than those selling outside the ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 03, 2020, 10:01:50 PM
When I was a nipper, I'd hoover up anything to do with a game. Kids today won't be any different.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 03, 2020, 10:12:34 PM
If it said mentioned Aston Villa and the League Cup Final, it would still be about the game, wouldn't it?

I'm pretty sure 13 year old me would have wanted nothing to do with a half Villa/half Man U scarf for the 94 Final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 03, 2020, 10:15:30 PM
Pretty sure we did them for the Arsenal final. I can't stand half and half scarves but there's obviously some that do so it seems logical that it's the club that takes their money rather than those selling outside the ground.

They did.  And for the semi against Liverpool.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 03, 2020, 10:21:17 PM
If it said mentioned Aston Villa and the League Cup Final, it would still be about the game, wouldn't it?

I'm pretty sure 13 year old me would have wanted nothing to do with a half Villa/half Man U scarf for the 94 Final.

And there's plenty that would have. Isn't it better that it's the club that gets the money for them rather than the sellers outside the ground?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 03, 2020, 10:30:33 PM
Pretty sure we did them for the Arsenal final. I can't stand half and half scarves but there's obviously some that do so it seems logical that it's the club that takes their money rather than those selling outside the ground.

They did.  And for the semi against Liverpool.

Yeah I posted pics of them after seeing them in the shop in town. Doing semi final scarves was a bit small time. But again, I suppose as there's people that like them the club may as well have their money.
Personally I think they should illegal and anyone buying one sent to Siberia.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 03, 2020, 10:34:12 PM
Mind you, if they were in Siberia they'd just buy half and half scarves of the splendidly named, FC Tom Tomsk.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 03, 2020, 10:40:05 PM
Presumably in Siberia fussiness over scarves isn't that much of a thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 03, 2020, 10:45:49 PM
Half and half scarves, with the big question being, is CD brave enough to click the link?

 www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySvuolhlB7g
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 03, 2020, 11:40:19 PM
No chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 03, 2020, 11:41:28 PM
If it said mentioned Aston Villa and the League Cup Final, it would still be about the game, wouldn't it?

I'm pretty sure 13 year old me would have wanted nothing to do with a half Villa/half Man U scarf for the 94 Final.

And there's plenty that would have. Isn't it better that it's the club that gets the money for them rather than the sellers outside the ground?

I'd rather the club arranged for death squads to deal with those selling such abominations outside the ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 03, 2020, 11:49:46 PM
Any news on tickets?
In what way mate ???
Not been around on this site or AVFC for a few days so was looking for some news on sale dates but have found the info on AVFC official. Can buy tickets 5pm Tuesday😊
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 03, 2020, 11:51:15 PM
No chance.

You know you want to.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 04, 2020, 01:03:28 AM
I am with cdbwf abominations
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 04, 2020, 08:25:01 AM
IMO the only time half and half scarves are acceptable are for big European or International games. I have ones from Villa v Ajax, Hamburg v Villa and Germany v England.

They look good as souvenirs however it is NEVER acceptable to actually wear one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2020, 09:12:44 AM
Do i recall seeing half and half Celtic Rangers hats in the Holte end in the 80's?  I definitely rember the chants but pretty sure there were hats too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 04, 2020, 09:15:03 AM
There were half Villa/half Celtic and half Villa/half Rangers hats at the time. Not half Celtic/half Rangers. Not sure if that's what you meant.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 04, 2020, 09:18:11 AM
IMO the only time half and half scarves are acceptable are for big European or International games. I have ones from Villa v Ajax, Hamburg v Villa and Germany v England.

They look good as souvenirs however it is NEVER acceptable to actually wear one.

If Villa ever played Bristol Rovers in the FA Cup final, I'd buy a H&H for that one
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2020, 09:22:55 AM
There were half Villa/half Celtic and half Villa/half Rangers hats at the time. Not half Celtic/half Rangers. Not sure if that's what you meant.
Yeah that sounds right.  It's odd that there seemed to be a fascination with Scottish football at the time.  Nobody gives a shite now.  Can you imaine hearing Celtic ... Rangers... chanted on the Holte now?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 04, 2020, 10:54:15 AM
Ski hats. Very cool with casuals in the early 80s. I had half Celtic/half Villa one.

Sherlock Holmes/ Deputy Dawg- style deer stalker hats were also favoured by the football fashionistas at the time. Think Iíve still got mine somewhere....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 04, 2020, 11:34:42 AM
We realkg are not fancied are we. Looking at odds we are as far as 8/1 to win. Might stick a tenner on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: somec on February 04, 2020, 11:47:12 AM
Ski hats. Very cool with casuals in the early 80s. I had half Celtic/half Villa one.

Sherlock Holmes/ Deputy Dawg- style deer stalker hats were also favoured by the football fashionistas at the time. Think Iíve still got mine somewhere....

At the semi final last Tuesday I saw someone wearing one of these

https://footballbobbles.com/product/platt-bobble-hat/

The hats on that website are new but I have vague recollections of there been an official Villa bobble hat with the mita copiers logo on it at that time. Or did I imagine the whole thing?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 04, 2020, 11:49:00 AM
We realkg are not fancied are we. Looking at odds we are as far as 8/1 to win. Might stick a tenner on

I hope Damo has a tenner on Man City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on February 04, 2020, 11:58:16 AM
It seems they have now changed the criteria for C&B members.
Hats off to the club if true .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 04, 2020, 12:06:27 PM
Yep, they've bought in an 8 games and a 5 games tiers.

Whilst I agree this is fairer overall, I'm not sure they should have changed the goalposts from the last few years without making this clearer. 

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/01/31/ticket-information-carabao-cup-final
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 04, 2020, 12:06:40 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/01/31/ticket-information-carabao-cup-final

(https://www.avfc.co.uk/-/media/02_Ticketing/Sales-dates-updated.ashx?la=en&hash=781CAE68157C70981E86A692035C412E236C4000)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: 144 Hard Boiled Eggs on February 04, 2020, 12:10:59 PM
Makes more sense. Fair play to the club for making the change.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 04, 2020, 12:20:17 PM
Interesting.
They've struggled with the claret memberships this year, in some cases not even sending the cards out until 6 or 7 months after purchase.
Imo they continue to do so.
Changing the goalposts now, will obviously impact on some people. This decision should have been made when ticket details were 1st announced. Also I would suggest something in the t/c's when claret memberships were bought last summer (eg "in the event of reaching a cup final claret/cub members who have attended the most games in 2019/20 will get priority..etc etc) might have been in order so claret/cub members  could have ensured they reached a certain number of games to improve their chances depending on individual circumstances.
Obvs the claret/cub members with 5+ and esp 8+ games will be happier in regards to their chances of getting a cup final ticket.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 04, 2020, 12:27:06 PM
Meanwhile, Man City have about 20 different criteria tiers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 04, 2020, 12:30:10 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/01/31/ticket-information-carabao-cup-final

(https://www.avfc.co.uk/-/media/02_Ticketing/Sales-dates-updated.ashx?la=en&hash=781CAE68157C70981E86A692035C412E236C4000)

My only objection to this after 5 they should have a booking history Claret and blue this year then members only.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on February 04, 2020, 12:37:54 PM
FFS! Bollocks! Wank! Fuckity fuck! (Fair enough to those who have 8 or 5 games, obviously).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 04, 2020, 12:44:24 PM
8, 5, 3, 1 would have made more sense imo. Although maybe a reason for only 2 criteria is so that those with 0-2 all have a chance of a ticket, making the membership purchase worthwhile.

Imagine the fun if we keep up this level of ST sales and make the FA Cup final when there's less tickets than ST holders.

Here's the Man City criteria
https://tickets.mancity.com/en-GB/shows/aston%20villa%20v%20manchester%20city/events/2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 04, 2020, 12:48:50 PM
Or if we make the Europa League Final... UEFA tend to give each club about twelve tickets each. Probably won't have to worry about that too much just yet, though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 04, 2020, 12:51:20 PM
The new criteria rules me out then...4 games plus 2 on a friends season ticket when he couldnít make it. Good luck to those that get tickets and make some noise for me at Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on February 04, 2020, 12:52:24 PM
Well done to the club for listening to the fans and changing the criteria as this is much fairer, there will always be people who are disappointed, probably me included as I only have a 6 game history, but it rewards people who have been plenty of games
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on February 04, 2020, 04:43:49 PM
Just spoke to the ticket office to check how many home games I have been to, answer 7. The guy I spoke to reckons that all the Wembley tickets will have gone by the time I am allowed to try and get tickets. Fair play though to the club for giving priority to those who attend the most games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on February 04, 2020, 05:18:24 PM
Booked. Rather impressed with how seamless it was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on February 04, 2020, 05:22:35 PM
Boom!!! Four tickets sorted by 5.15pm in block 133, Row 39, directly behind goal. At GT has said, for once it was easy!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 04, 2020, 05:23:04 PM
we will obviously sell out but I reckon there will be loads available if you really want to go

if we got 33k and City got 33k that leaves another 23/24k floating about somewhere plus City will struggle to sell out anyways

it wonít be top priority for all those corporates and club Wembleyís
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kieron on February 04, 2020, 05:23:24 PM
I was also expecting a bracket for ST holders that have been to the League Cup games this season, too. Thought those people should be rewarded.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 04, 2020, 05:24:41 PM
Your queue number: 6999
Number of users in queue ahead of you: 2861
Your estimated wait time is: 18 minutes

  Status last updated: 17:24:02
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dalians umbrella on February 04, 2020, 05:26:10 PM
My confirmation email says "Playoff Final" in the title and graphics header - I enjoyed it the first time but don't think I could go through the stress again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on February 04, 2020, 05:29:15 PM
My confirmation email says "Playoff Final" in the title and graphics header - I enjoyed it the first time but don't think I could go through the stress again.
Ha, hadn't even noticed in my excitement!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2020, 05:31:18 PM
My confirmation email says "Playoff Final" in the title and graphics header - I enjoyed it the first time but don't think I could go through the stress again.
Ha, hadn't even noticed in my excitement!

I had to recheck the seat details just to make sure I hadnt booked a game in the past in error.  TBF we seem to play there so often, it's hard remembering what for this time!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on February 04, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
My confirmation email says "Playoff Final" in the title and graphics header - I enjoyed it the first time but don't think I could go through the stress again.

When copy and paste goes wrong!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 04, 2020, 05:40:25 PM
All booked and really happy.
I got 1759 in the random queue allocation but Jane totally lucked out with 154! We got exactly the seats we wanted - canít wait!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Oscar Arce on February 04, 2020, 05:48:32 PM
That's me not going then.
I've been to 8 games so far this season but my son because of work commitments has only been to 5, we both went to 16 home games last season.
It'll be the first time I've never been to a Villa Wembley appearance since my first visit in the League Cup Final in 1971 after being a season ticket holder since 1975-76 until 2012.
I think the Claret Membership has been massively over subscribed, maybe it would've been better to limit the membership as it has given a lot of people the impression, wrongly of course, that Cup Finals etc we'd get a ticket.
Cheer them on for me!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 04, 2020, 05:52:18 PM
System not working for us. Log in and it says that none of us renewed our season tickets this year. This is news to me as I have the season ticket in my wallet and have been attending games with it all season.

Will have to phone tomorrow. Ballache.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 04, 2020, 05:53:58 PM
Done  :D


If anyone wants a gander at specific seats before they book, use this. Better than the Wembley site (https://3ddigitalvenue.com/clients/sports/wembley)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 04, 2020, 05:57:32 PM
Started the process at 5:30.
3 tickets bought and paid for by 5:40

The row behind where we were for the play off final.

Piece of piss.

Wembley here we come.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 04, 2020, 06:06:49 PM
Went back in and managed to get them. Bug a millisecond before pressing pay I noticed the seat numbers aren't consecutive, worried they may have sat us separately for some reason. Has anyone had a confirmation email?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jane on February 04, 2020, 06:09:25 PM
Went back in and managed to get them. Bug a millisecond before pressing pay I noticed the seat numbers aren't consecutive, worried they may have sat us separately for some reason. Has anyone had a confirmation email?

Yeh but took about 10 mins to come through..... and says "Play Off Final Confirmation"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 04, 2020, 06:13:16 PM
I noticed on the seat viewer that the Ďblocksí arenít actual blocks - so there is an aisle in the middle of a Ďblockí.
Seat numbers jump from 303 to 309 in block 133 because they are either side of an aisle. It could be that?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 04, 2020, 06:28:17 PM
I have the confirmation now, I have 311 and 322-25. Sigh. My dad's friend is gonna try and get them moved tomorrow. If not, hopefully a dozen people won't mind shuffling one seat along...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on February 04, 2020, 06:30:20 PM
Got mine didn't even have to queue :) in block 133 row 21
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 04, 2020, 06:41:34 PM
block 133 for us too row 33 UTV , good luck to everyone
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: frank on February 04, 2020, 06:47:02 PM
All booked and really happy.
I got 1759 in the random queue allocation but Jane totally lucked out with 154! We got exactly the seats we wanted - can’t wait!
I was 124 in the queue allocation! Where are your seats, Amfy and Jane? We're section 124
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 04, 2020, 07:03:50 PM
That's me not going then.
I've been to 8 games so far this season but my son because of work commitments has only been to 5, we both went to 16 home games last season.
It'll be the first time I've never been to a Villa Wembley appearance since my first visit in the League Cup Final in 1971 after being a season ticket holder since 1975-76 until 2012.
I think the Claret Membership has been massively over subscribed, maybe it would've been better to limit the membership as it has given a lot of people the impression, wrongly of course, that Cup Finals etc we'd get a ticket.
Cheer them on for me!

Never say never Oscar - It's amazing how tickets turn up when you are least expecting them.  Fingers crossed for you and the many others who are in limbo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on February 04, 2020, 07:05:08 PM
4 booked in 138 - thought it was gonna crash when got through queue and the Carabao Cup final was greyed out- then remembered to go to top of screen and login :-) dime bar!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 04, 2020, 07:08:25 PM
All booked and really happy.
I got 1759 in the random queue allocation but Jane totally lucked out with 154! We got exactly the seats we wanted - canít wait!
I was 124 in the queue allocation! Where are your seats, Amfy and Jane? We're section 124

We are in the Block 133 crew!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 04, 2020, 07:09:25 PM
I've attended 3 home games this season as a claret member and suspect that this change will mean I would not be able to get a ticket.  However, I wasn't intending to go anyway and even if I was I'm not sure I'd have cause to complain.  I do hope though that the claret membership will continue as it's been working, as it's been really good for me and I hope supporters like me who can or want to only get to so many games, for whatever reasons.  If we go down of course, we won't need to worry about getting tickets to home games next season!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: martyn ellis on February 04, 2020, 07:13:18 PM
Someone please tell me how and why I can't get access. I have logged in and am going round and round in circles when I click on Carabao Cup Final, then to ticket sales and then the same info again but no 'Buy Now' button. ST holder withfan ID and everything. Help!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on February 04, 2020, 07:17:59 PM
Someone please tell me how and why I can't get access. I have logged in and am going round and round in circles when I click on Carabao Cup Final, then to ticket sales and then the same info again but no 'Buy Now' button. ST holder withfan ID and everything. Help!!
You have definitely had a season ticket for the last 5 years? Mind you my brother in law had same problem but I was able to get him a seat with mine. Glitch perhaps?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 04, 2020, 07:19:22 PM
If you haven't had your season ticket for five years you have to wait until next week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on February 04, 2020, 07:25:14 PM
Someone please tell me how and why I can't get access. I have logged in and am going round and round in circles when I click on Carabao Cup Final, then to ticket sales and then the same info again but no 'Buy Now' button. ST holder withfan ID and everything. Help!!

Itís on Away Tickets as well if that helps.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: martyn ellis on February 04, 2020, 07:28:30 PM
Thanks for trying guys (Risso and Walsall). Had my ST for many years uninterrupted. Signed in (it has my name on the top right to confirm). I keep going to ticket sales, then click on the cup info but no BUY NOW button; round and round I go as the tickets get sold. Yours Very Frustrated. Any suggestions
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 04, 2020, 07:32:47 PM
There is a little box you have to tick to say you agree to the terms and conditions, it is partly obscured by another box if you are on the phone. Try looking for that, or try on a laptop if you've been trying on mobile?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: martyn ellis on February 04, 2020, 07:41:35 PM
At the top of the pricing list it says on my page 'soon on sale'. I think this may be my glitch, because I reckon it should say Now on Sale or the like. Am I right?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Virgil Caine on February 04, 2020, 07:54:47 PM
Martin- it did the same with me, persevere and it should clear and change to ĎBuyí.

Sorry I canít be more helpful but at least I didnít say Ďhave you tried turning off and on againí
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 04, 2020, 07:57:47 PM
I was also expecting a bracket for ST holders that have been to the League Cup games this season, too. Thought those people should be rewarded.

Rewarded how? A ST holder is guaranteed a ticket, isn't that reward enough?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: martyn ellis on February 04, 2020, 07:58:51 PM
Thanks Virgil. I'll keep trying.
Martyn
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on February 04, 2020, 08:12:11 PM
I have the confirmation now, I have 311 and 322-25. Sigh. My dad's friend is gonna try and get them moved tomorrow. If not, hopefully a dozen people won't mind shuffling one seat along...
It'll only be 10 people who need to shuffle, those in seats 312  to 321 incl., plus you = 11 😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 04, 2020, 08:16:55 PM
Okay, thanks Vorderman 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kieron on February 04, 2020, 08:43:57 PM
I was also expecting a bracket for ST holders that have been to the League Cup games this season, too. Thought those people should be rewarded.

Rewarded how? A ST holder is guaranteed a ticket, isn't that reward enough?

There might well be many ST holders who don't/didn't buy League Cup tickets. Therefore, those ST holders who did buy League Cup tickets should be rewarded through a higher bracket - as has been apparent in previous years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 04, 2020, 08:46:00 PM
But why, all ST holders get a ticket. Why have another criteria that isn't needed?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 04, 2020, 08:48:48 PM
I was also expecting a bracket for ST holders that have been to the League Cup games this season, too. Thought those people should be rewarded.

Rewarded how? A ST holder is guaranteed a ticket, isn't that reward enough?

No. I want a free pie. And I don't want to have to queue for it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sdwbvf on February 04, 2020, 08:53:17 PM
Well I'm stuffed then. Not complaining, as I said above the food and drink are cheaper at home! Just a shame I won't be able to go to Sheffield United either. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kieron on February 04, 2020, 09:07:57 PM
Not sure what's hard to understand in my post tbh. It's happened before, I'm merely highlighting that.

Pie or no pie.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 04, 2020, 09:13:36 PM
I understand what you want, i'm querying why you think it's necessary. Both ST criteria windows are a week and every ST holder will get a ticket so another ST window just seems a bit pointless.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 04, 2020, 09:29:47 PM
I understand what you want, i'm querying why you think it's necessary. Both ST criteria windows are a week and every ST holder will get a ticket so another ST window just seems a bit pointless.

It depends how they release the tickets. If they release them all at once, or release the Ďbestí seats first, then the first batch to be able to buy will get the best seats. If all the (pre-premier league return) season ticket holders are together, then the first batch will include a number who end up in less good seats.

If those that have attended the League Cup this season were prioritised above other season ticket holders, then they would have the best chance of the best seats.

Last year for the Play Off Final (which was with only 18000 ST holders)  I ended up in the upper tier which, although I was happy to be at Wembley, wasnít what I had wanted. So I can see what they are saying about wanting that additional edge on criteria.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 04, 2020, 09:32:15 PM
In the past there hasn't seemed much logic to how they released areas at Wembley so it always seems a bit of a crapshoot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 04, 2020, 10:42:14 PM
The batch of tickets released today is a little bit better than the bach that will be released next week (presuming thatís when the second batch is released) Not a great deal in it though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 04, 2020, 10:49:31 PM
Meanwhile, Man City have about 20 different criteria tiers.

And they'll still send tickets back....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 04, 2020, 11:32:48 PM
have you gone to away ticket sales , also try using another login that meets criteria
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 05, 2020, 01:15:16 AM
I'm in. Logged on at 5pm and all done by 5.10.
Block 537 row 2!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on February 05, 2020, 06:27:33 AM
Booked last night at about 8 pm, no queue, so quite straightforward -

Block 140 - as I will be by myself, hopefully someone will talk to me? - but probably not

What surprised me that some of the tickets were £120 +, mine was bad enough at £74.00 + £2.00 admin fee - I hope that everyone who wants a ticket gets one.

Should be a fantastic day (sounds like the Haircut 100 song, proves how old I am)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on February 05, 2020, 08:55:35 AM
Booked last night at about 8 pm, no queue, so quite straightforward -

Block 140 - as I will be by myself, hopefully someone will talk to me? - but probably not

What surprised me that some of the tickets were £120 +, mine was bad enough at £74.00 + £2.00 admin fee - I hope that everyone who wants a ticket gets one.

Should be a fantastic day (sounds like the Haircut 100 song, proves how old I am)

Don't forget to wear your favourite shirt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 05, 2020, 09:02:21 AM
Martin- it did the same with me, persevere and it should clear and change to ĎBuyí.

Sorry I canít be more helpful but at least I didnít say Ďhave you tried turning off and on againí

I was asked to look at two computer problems at work last week.

Twice I said, "turn it off and turn it back on again"

Twice that fixed the problem
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: martyn ellis on February 05, 2020, 09:24:04 AM
Problem solved. I wrote on here last night that I couldn't get into the online ticket sale for the final. Had to phone this morning - which was very quick and efficient by the way - and the reason was that I changed my seat 4 years ago ad gave me a new fan ID, so effectively I've only been a ST holder for that amount of time according to their records. They put me back on my old ID number and sold me a ticket. Just saying  in case anyone else is having the same issue. Any, got my ticket without too much angst.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: alanclare on February 05, 2020, 09:28:24 AM
If I go to the villa web site I can read about the cup final tickets and Iím advised to go online to tickets.avfc.co.uk
When I click in that Iím taken to a page which doesnít mention the cup tickets.
What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 05, 2020, 09:29:32 AM
Go into "away tickets".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: mallo on February 05, 2020, 09:59:37 AM
Me and my mate aren't going to get tickets for Wembley - is there going to be anything on at Villa Park like the final with Man U?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 05, 2020, 10:30:20 AM
Me and my mate aren't going to get tickets for Wembley - is there going to be anything on at Villa Park like the final with Man U?

They should definitely do this. Lots of people that have previously got to Wembley will be missing out this time.

Alternatively - book a short break in Tanzania - the big screen crowd there could be amazing!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 05, 2020, 10:58:39 AM
If I go to the villa web site I can read about the cup final tickets and I’m advised to go online to tickets.avfc.co.uk
When I click in that I’m taken to a page which doesn’t mention the cup tickets.
What am I doing wrong?
click on the large villa v man city cup final banner at the top
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on February 05, 2020, 06:36:24 PM
Me and my mate aren't going to get tickets for Wembley - is there going to be anything on at Villa Park like the final with Man U?

They should definitely do this. Lots of people that have previously got to Wembley will be missing out this time.

Alternatively - book a short break in Tanzania - the big screen crowd there could be amazing!


Thatís literally an option for me! But a 22hr drive to Dar es Salaam safe to say my Mrs wonít be too convinced itís in the best interest of little AV...
Really wishing Iíd planned dates better now, but feeling blessed all the same.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 05, 2020, 07:05:44 PM
The club confirmed on Twitter today that we have 58k ST holders and Claret members combined, which I suppose gives us 28k claret members.

Yikes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 05, 2020, 09:38:36 PM
But some ST holders might be members too. So they can get tickets for someone else who doesnt go as regularly. I know a few people that do this
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 05, 2020, 09:43:10 PM
The club confirmed on Twitter today that we have 58k ST holders and Claret members combined, which I suppose gives us 28k claret members.

Yikes.

If that's @AVFCSupport, I wouldn't trust them to open a can of sardines that was already open.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: alanclare on February 06, 2020, 07:54:42 AM
Go into "away tickets".

Thanks for that. It wasnít obvious - to me anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mellin on February 06, 2020, 12:03:40 PM
Booked last night at about 8 pm, no queue, so quite straightforward -

Block 140 - as I will be by myself, hopefully someone will talk to me? - but probably not

What surprised me that some of the tickets were £120 +, mine was bad enough at £74.00 + £2.00 admin fee - I hope that everyone who wants a ticket gets one.

Should be a fantastic day (sounds like the Haircut 100 song, proves how old I am)

I sat on my own for the Chelsea semi final and Derby. Was fine (apart from the result in the first).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mellin on February 06, 2020, 12:21:34 PM
Will a Claret membership count toward Wembley if taken out now does anyone know? Don't have a season ticket and trying to give myself the best chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 06, 2020, 12:27:06 PM
Will a Claret membership count toward Wembley if taken out now does anyone know? Don't have a season ticket and trying to give myself the best chance.

They've closed applications for membership, so no, you can't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 06, 2020, 12:28:57 PM
Go into "away tickets".

Thanks for that. It wasnít obvious - to me anyway.

I only remembered because that's where they were for the playoff final, and I ranted for about ten minutes before finding them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mellin on February 06, 2020, 12:32:34 PM
Shame. Don't think stubs will be enough this year, although they have been for the last 6 visits. Work shifts, so season ticket is a no go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on February 06, 2020, 12:40:28 PM
So signed in, clicked to get to seating plan but still wonít allow me to choose a seat....help!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Scratchins on February 06, 2020, 02:29:43 PM
So signed in, clicked to get to seating plan but still wonít allow me to choose a seat....help!

Have you got as far as the seating plan? If so it may be that someone else has put the seat(s)you chose in their basket and is waiting to pay. Try other seats.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 06, 2020, 02:29:44 PM
So signed in, clicked to get to seating plan but still wonít allow me to choose a seat....help!

When you access a section. It shows the number of available seats on the right hand side. That's where you click on the link to view the available seats.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on February 06, 2020, 02:59:00 PM
Just received another confirmation of my order... minus the play off final banner!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 06, 2020, 04:31:54 PM
For those who enjoyed it last season, Boxpark is Villa again and tickets available online.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on February 06, 2020, 05:12:09 PM
The only legitimate use for a half and half scarf is as a makeshift noose for anyone who wants to wear one.

After the FA Cup final in 2015 that never happened, a bunch of us had somehow got hold of one of these abominations and, stood in a circle outside the pub chanting 'you look like a bellend in your half and half scarf', burned it.

It was very Lord of the Flies and very weird.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 06, 2020, 05:19:32 PM
The only legitimate use for a half and half scarf is as a makeshift noose for anyone who wants to wear one.

After the FA Cup final in 2015 that never happened, a bunch of us had somehow got hold of one of these abominations and, stood in a circle outside the pub chanting 'you look like a bellend in your half and half scarf', burned it.

It was very Lord of the Flies and very weird.

That final was too much.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on February 06, 2020, 05:27:36 PM
That final was too much.

Had a great time the night before though! Dave W was able to get Coops a ticket as a surprise, how I got a ticket legitimately I'll never know...AND I got to meet Tony Daley in the concourse.

And we burned a half and half scarf.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 06, 2020, 05:31:35 PM
That final was too much.

Had a great time the night before though! Dave W was able to get Coops a ticket as a surprise, how I got a ticket legitimately I'll never know...AND I got to meet Tony Daley in the concourse.

And we burned a half and half scarf.

To be fair, amfy got the ticket; I just did the arrangements. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on February 06, 2020, 05:38:32 PM
That final was too much.

Had a great time the night before though! Dave W was able to get Coops a ticket as a surprise, how I got a ticket legitimately I'll never know...AND I got to meet Tony Daley in the concourse.

And we burned a half and half scarf.

To be fair, amfy got the ticket; I just did the arrangements. 

Ah right. Amfy did amazing work getting people tickets for that match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 06, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
That final was too much.

Had a great time the night before though! Dave W was able to get Coops a ticket as a surprise, how I got a ticket legitimately I'll never know...AND I got to meet Tony Daley in the concourse.

And we burned a half and half scarf.

To be fair, amfy got the ticket; I just did the arrangements. 

Ah right. Amfy did amazing work getting people tickets for that match.

I was at Villa Park at 5am while you were in Vegas to get yours!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 06, 2020, 09:12:05 PM
Does anyone have experience of entering level 5 the upper tier?
I've always sat in the lower but this year I've opted for block 537. Level 5.
I made the call to do a group booking for 6 people on Monday and then to go back next week and get my stepson ticket.
Theres still a few seats left in our block. I had planned to stand him next to me and my dad.
Does anyone know if you can walk around the whole of the upper tier?
My thinking is that if I cant get him a ticket in my block then I'll be able to get something else in the upper tier and he'll still be ok to use the same entrance as me and stand him with me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: bones. on February 06, 2020, 09:26:28 PM
We stood in the top tier for the play off last year and walked from one end of our support to the other after the match, I donít remember any obstacles, you should be fine doing that, Iím thinking I might have to do the same.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 06, 2020, 10:47:16 PM
That's a relief. I cant decide if I've done the right thing or not.
I wanted row 2 of the upper tier so I thought I'd get what our group wanted and we'd stand him with us as he's only small.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 06, 2020, 10:49:58 PM
As far as I know you can walk all the way round Wembley on both tiers, the only bits they block off are for segregation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 06, 2020, 11:13:48 PM
Nice one. Ideally I want my step son's ticket as close to ours as possible to save hassle but it's a good piece of mind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on February 06, 2020, 11:42:13 PM
I was in the top tier for the FA Semi, and I recall being able to walk around from almost behind the goal to about the halfway line (the segregation line) to chat to other family at half time. You might have difficulties getting him to be able to stand by you unless there is an unoccupied seat close by.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on February 07, 2020, 06:12:40 AM
We had extra people stood with us the whole game at the playoff final, plenty of room.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 07, 2020, 08:03:25 AM
City had trouble selling their tickets for their previous fmestic cup finals.  Could be the same this year. Wonder what they do with those tickets?

They obviously wont give us more even though we could sell double the amount city leave unsold.  Seems a waste to me for our fans
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 07, 2020, 09:32:09 AM
City returned 5,000 tickets for the FA Cup semi final last season and the final also went to general sale as I know a glory hunter whoíd only ever been to 2 or 3 City games and got a Final ticket.

So itís possible they donít sell out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 07, 2020, 09:41:43 AM
If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?

Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on February 07, 2020, 09:58:16 AM
If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?

Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end  to Aston Villa fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on February 07, 2020, 11:57:15 AM
City won't sell out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 07, 2020, 12:00:36 PM
I guess there's the possibility of tickets near the half way line not being sold by them and given to us. But unlikely.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 07, 2020, 12:44:58 PM
If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?

Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end  to Aston Villa fans.

Yeah its wishful thinking. Which begs the question why the hell have city been given more tickets than us?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 07, 2020, 01:12:54 PM
If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?

Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end  to Aston Villa fans.

Yeah its wishful thinking. Which begs the question why the hell have city been given more tickets than us?

I would guess it goes off average crowd size, and common sense doesn't come into it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 07, 2020, 01:17:18 PM
If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?

Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end  to Aston Villa fans.

Yeah its wishful thinking. Which begs the question why the hell have city been given more tickets than us?

I would guess it goes off average crowd size, and common sense doesn't come into it.

I think that as long as your average crowd would more than fill it, it should be 50/50. I think it is different for clubs who can barely attract 20,000 most weeks, but as virtually all our crowds this year have been over 40,000 and have barely been under the 33,000 for years, we should get half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 07, 2020, 01:24:15 PM
it's only a couple of hundred difference and it's to do with the configuration of the ends. Derby had the same last season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 07, 2020, 02:27:46 PM
As Dave says it is essentially 50:50.

And I don't think the idea giving one team a bigger allocation than another because of average crowd size is ever fair - why should one team give up any advantage because of the size of their ground / fanbase?

Remember, rather than give Leicester the whole north stand, we chose to net off seats and leave them unsold so as to minimise the impact of their fans on the day - and rightly so.

I also remember an argument in here abot how we should have more tickets than Fulham - their sales criteria was something like 4 tickets per ST holder and someone was arguing 'real fans' (and by that he meant Villa fans) should be allowed the seats.  Yet Fulham ultimately sold their allocation to people who at least wore white and waved those fucking clappers about.  And good luck to them, it is exactly what should have happened and what should always happen.  50:50 for cup finals full stop.  Nothing else is fair.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 07, 2020, 03:05:43 PM
Did Man City sell out last season? The game was 9,000 under capacity
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 07, 2020, 03:05:45 PM
6 tickets available per purchaser for Fulham. Don't know where they'd all gone when we played them in January.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 07, 2020, 03:08:23 PM
6 tickets available per purchaser for Fulham. Don't know where they'd all gone when we played them in January.
It doesn't matter does it?  They got to the final on merit, filled their side of the stadium, made a reasonable noise and their team won fair and square?  Do you think it would have been fairer to have 60,000 villa fans and 20,000 Fulham?

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 07, 2020, 03:11:58 PM
Yes, actually.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 07, 2020, 03:14:56 PM
As if the big clubs haven't already got enough advantage in this world without people suggesting they get bigger allocations at cup finals.  FFS.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 07, 2020, 03:32:31 PM
As if the big clubs haven't already got enough advantage in this world without people suggesting they get bigger allocations at cup finals.  FFS.

They used to.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 07, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
I think when you're buying 6 tickets ago suggests you have no business having a 30,000 plus allocation. It's been and gone and they're back to getting one man and his dog watching them in the 2nd division.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 07, 2020, 03:39:01 PM
Remember, rather than give Leicester the whole north stand, we chose to net off seats and leave them unsold so as to minimise the impact of their fans on the day - and rightly so.

I think it's more about segregation than that - the front rows, for example, will have been to make it harder for pitch invasions their end if they'd won.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 07, 2020, 03:48:55 PM
Remember, rather than give Leicester the whole north stand, we chose to net off seats and leave them unsold so as to minimise the impact of their fans on the day - and rightly so.

I think it's more about segregation than that - the front rows, for example, will have been to make it harder for pitch invasions their end if they'd won.


I don't think so, they left a large section of the upper empty too.  I think we gave them the minimum required allocation - and rightly so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 07, 2020, 04:11:04 PM


Minuscule difference in allocation due to seat configurations. It'll still be 50/50 as it always should be.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 07, 2020, 04:46:11 PM
Yes, actually.

So you think it would have been fair for Fulham to get allocated their average attendance while we were allocated 28k more than our average?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 07, 2020, 06:30:23 PM
Sterling out with a hamstring for a few weeks hopefully.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 07, 2020, 06:35:36 PM
Sterling out with a hamstring for a few weeks hopefully.
Cos thatíll weaken them ! 😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on February 07, 2020, 07:10:48 PM
Sterling out with a hamstring for a few weeks hopefully.
Cos thatíll weaken them ! 😉
And he never even played in that close game we had last month 🙁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 07, 2020, 08:51:31 PM
Sterling is excellent, he's really come on massively as a player these past couple of seasons. I'd rather he not play. If De Bruyne and Aguero could be out too, happy days.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 07, 2020, 08:53:18 PM
Yes but in two games so far they have not managed a double figure score and they are susceptible to conceding as we proved in the last minute of the home game. So I am full of confidence for the final. ::)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 07, 2020, 09:11:21 PM
Three at the back wonít work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.

Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 07, 2020, 09:22:42 PM
Thereís no way DS will switch back to a flat back 4 for the final...it doesnít work for our squad and weíd get torn a new one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 07, 2020, 10:18:49 PM
If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?

Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end  to Aston Villa fans.

Yeah its wishful thinking. Which begs the question why the hell have city been given more tickets than us?

I would guess it goes off average crowd size, and common sense doesn't come into it.

It doesn't go off average crowd. One half gets slightly more than the other, and it's luck of the draw which half you get. It was the same last year when Derby got more tickets than us. We have a bigger average crowd size than they do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 07, 2020, 11:13:34 PM
How many more tickets have they been given?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: lennythekad on February 07, 2020, 11:16:32 PM
About 500
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 07, 2020, 11:27:12 PM
Last year's final.

Chelsea
We have received an allocation of 32868 tickets for the Carabao Cup Final. Chelsea have been allocated the East side of the Wembley Stadium.

Citeh
The Club has received an allocation of 33,889 tickets located in the West end of Wembley Stadium.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on February 07, 2020, 11:38:01 PM
Good.
We are repeat bookers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 08, 2020, 09:35:27 AM
Whatís interesting is that city have a lot of games coming up. They have to go Madrid in Cl game few days before the cup final vs us. Then they have fa cup few days later. I think there  will be a lot of rotating from city. Letís hope for some injuries to them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on February 08, 2020, 10:42:43 AM
Three at the back wonít work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.

Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.

In a game where we will struggle for possession the answer is Hourihane! Whatís the question?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 08, 2020, 11:06:49 AM
Three at the back wonít work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.

Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.

In a game where we will struggle for possession the answer is Hourihane! Whatís the question?

"In a game where we could sneak a 12th player onto the pitch that would be so ineffective the opposition wouldn't care, if they even noticed, who would you pick?"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 08, 2020, 11:11:07 AM
Three at the back wonít work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.

Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.

In a game where we will struggle for possession the answer is Hourihane! Whatís the question?

"In a game where we could sneak a 12th player onto the pitch that would be so ineffective the opposition wouldn't care, if they even noticed, who would you pick?"

So a standard back four will see us get dicked.   

But three centre backs will also see us get dicked (as per game at VP)

If we go at them, we'll leave gaps and they kill us. If we sit back and Park a bus, they kill us.

Maybe we can play two goalkeepers? Bet no one thought of that!!

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 08, 2020, 11:25:00 AM
Our tactics, if that's what they could be called, were wrong in the league game. Our "midfield" seemed so hell bent on keeping their shape that they forgot to actually engage the opposition.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 08, 2020, 12:09:33 PM
Our mindset was one of surrender. We lacked any belief. We had average Championship standard wing backs, an out of form midfield, no centre forward and Nyland chucked 3 in. Everything that could have gone wrong, did go wrong.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 08, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
Three at the back wonít work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.

Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.

Last season Chelsea in the final actually switched to a false 9 upfront for the final, Hazard played there. It worked well and Chelsea got to penalties. Sarri didn't play Hazard directly upfront in any other game last season so that's an example of a coach ripping up his template for a one off game.

Could Grealish as the striker and flooding the midfield at least keep us in the game up to the last period? I think it's worth a go tbh as certainly you'd back Jack to keep the ball longer and win some free kicks in dangerous areas the higher he's up the pitch.

It's going to be very tough whatever formation. My main fear is it's a repeat of 2015 final. From the kick off we just retreat and just starting booting the ball upfield rather than keeping it down and trying to start building up attacks.

Man.  City are hardly a difficult team to score past if you keep things tight but we made that look near impossible with our approach at VP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 09, 2020, 02:36:34 PM
Three weeks before the game and I think we haven't got a chance, regardless of what tactics we go for.

Next Sunday, I'll think that we could contain them if we play well but they'll have to have a rank off day.

The Sunday after, I may believe that we could sneak it.  Maybe penalties?

The morning over the game, we'll win 2-0 no worries and Man City needed bother turning up!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dr_Pangloss on February 09, 2020, 02:48:37 PM
City by their own high standards are in a bit of a mess. I think if we concede early we're pretty much fucked and could be in for a tonking. However if we can just frustrate them, make it ugly, and defend well then you never know.

We need to look at our first half performance at the Etihad as a bit of a blue print. Obviously they went on to win easily but they were in better form/ spirits at that stage. We showed we could hold our own, frustrate them and give them a few things to worry about going forward.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 09, 2020, 02:58:50 PM
It's a Cup Final. We've beaten Crewe, Brighton, Wolves, Liverpool and Leicester so far. 4 top division sides. What's to say we can't win the final? If we play like we have against them we're screwed but if we play as we can we'll give them a game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 09, 2020, 11:10:07 PM
It's a Cup Final. We've beaten Crewe, Brighton, Wolves, Liverpool and Leicester so far. 4 top division sides. What's to say we can't win the final? If we play like we have against them we're screwed but if we play as we can we'll give them a game.

2015 had better omens to me. A striker in red hot form, a succesful end to the season staying up and Arsenal were nowhere near as good as this Man. City team given the previous season a Steve Bruce led Hull should've beaten them.

We all know what happened. Ultimately history is always a bearing until we start rewriting it. Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.

Hopefully the play off final win will at least give us confidence and should mean we don't get stage fright this time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2020, 12:03:11 AM
Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.


So that leaves two this century, and a couple the decade before that were anything but.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 10, 2020, 12:11:56 AM
Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.


So that leaves two this century, and a couple the decade before that were anything but.

Fulham aswell which was a very disappointing game and could've done the most long term damage of all the defeats.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 10, 2020, 12:23:39 AM
Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.


So that leaves two this century, and a couple the decade before that were anything but.

Fulham aswell which was a very disappointing game and could've done the most long term damage of all the defeats.

If you count a play-off as a major cup final (which I don't) you're forgetting last year's.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 10, 2020, 12:25:32 AM
I don't class play-offs as cup finals as they are just extra league games. I also don't include the inter toto. So in my life we've been in 9 major finals, only 2 of them have lost because we played shit.

If you want to include play-offs and inter toto then it's 3 out of 12.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 10, 2020, 08:06:26 AM
Given the previous chat about decades etc- does the Chelsea debacle count as this century or last? Not that it really matters, we were fkg shite that day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 10, 2020, 08:19:26 AM
Given the previous chat about decades etc- does the Chelsea debacle count as this century or last? Not that it really matters, we were fkg shite that day.

It didn't happen full stop. Just erase it from your memory. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Perthvillan on February 10, 2020, 08:50:44 AM
In the 2000 FA Cup final we were crap but so were Chelsea there really wasn't much in it which made it so disappointing to lose.
If only we had showed up that day, it was there for the taking.
In 2015 we were terrible, it was the beginning of the end, with relegation the following season.
Absolute catastrophe for me personally as it cost me a small fortune to get to see it, as I managed to get a week off work and travelled from Australia.
Against  Man City I think we all are not expecting to win but I just hope we can frustrate them and give them a decent game, then you never know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 10, 2020, 11:01:12 AM
Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.


So that leaves two this century, and a couple the decade before that were anything but.

Fulham aswell which was a very disappointing game and could've done the most long term damage of all the defeats.

If you count a play-off as a major cup final (which I don't) you're forgetting last year's.

I did say I hope last year's one means we at least won't freeze on the day and give Man. City a decent game whatever the result. That's what everyone is hoping for anyway. No shots on target and no corners isn't worth thinking about.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 10, 2020, 11:15:17 AM
3 bad cup final performances for me: Everton, Arsenal & Chelsea.

Other than that, the only other Wembley performances that have been poor are the Fulham play off final (not cup final) and the Chelsea semi-final. 

We weren't great against Norwich or Spurs but certainly not poor.

We've lost our last 3 cup finals there but on each occasion, we played a far better side.  Statistics show that in cup finals, the better team on paper usually wins.  It is quite rare for upsets to occur.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 10, 2020, 11:21:43 AM
It would be nice to see some sort of appropriate tribute to Ron Saunders at Wembley, given that he took both teams to league Cup Finals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 10, 2020, 11:26:55 AM
In the 2000 FA Cup final we were crap but so were Chelsea there really wasn't much in it which made it so disappointing to lose.
If only we had showed up that day, it was there for the taking.
In 2015 we were terrible, it was the beginning of the end, with relegation the following season.
Absolute catastrophe for me personally as it cost me a small fortune to get to see it, as I managed to get a week off work and travelled from Australia.
Against  Man City I think we all are not expecting to win but I just hope we can frustrate them and give them a decent game, then you never know.
same. Cost me a small fortune in airfare and getting on the piss for a week in London. My mate, bless him, wouldnít take my money for the club Wembley ticket that his old man managed to get for us.

Had a class day out in the black lion, kilburn. We lost. I flew back next weekend, travel visa from Aus ran out, so had to pay for that when I got back and a speeding ticket that arrived in the post whilst away, then got made redundant on the Wednesday the next week back at work. Triffic.

Chelsea was honestly 100% shitter than that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 10, 2020, 11:31:26 AM
In the 2000 FA Cup final we were crap but so were Chelsea there really wasn't much in it which made it so disappointing to lose.
If only we had showed up that day, it was there for the taking.
In 2015 we were terrible, it was the beginning of the end, with relegation the following season.
Absolute catastrophe for me personally as it cost me a small fortune to get to see it, as I managed to get a week off work and travelled from Australia.
Against  Man City I think we all are not expecting to win but I just hope we can frustrate them and give them a decent game, then you never know.
same. Cost me a small fortune in airfare and getting on the piss for a week in London. My mate, bless him, wouldn’t take my money for the club Wembley ticket that his old man managed to get for us.

Had a class day out in the black lion, kilburn. We lost. I flew back next weekend, travel visa from Aus ran out, so had to pay for that when I got back and a speeding ticket that arrived in the post whilst away, then got made redundant on the Wednesday the next week back at work. Triffic.

Chelsea was honestly 100% shitter than that.

And don't forget the free bed and board in Lewisham....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 10, 2020, 11:44:56 AM
I donít forget it at all Ade, loved the week and your generous hospitality was very much appreciated. Think you werenít working at the time too?

The downer of losing to arsenal never came close to the Chelsea loss though eh? Most pissed off ive ever been with Villa that day. Shit day out too. At least 2015 was a top day other than the game.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 10, 2020, 11:47:40 AM
3 bad cup final performances for me: Everton, Arsenal & Chelsea.

Other than that, the only other Wembley performances that have been poor are the Fulham play off final (not cup final) and the Chelsea semi-final. 

We weren't great against Norwich or Spurs but certainly not poor.



The league cup finals against Norwich and Spurs we were bloody good.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on February 10, 2020, 01:11:42 PM
Does anyone know how well the tickets sales have gone so far??
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 10, 2020, 02:17:30 PM
The Bolton semi at Wembley was a dire performance, but we squeaked through.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 10, 2020, 02:19:07 PM
The Bolton semi at Wembley was a dire performance, but we squeaked through.

Thanks to Holdsworth missing an absolute sitter of an open goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 10, 2020, 03:20:14 PM
By my reckoning since 1990 we have played at Wembley 10 times, winning 5, losing 5. Goals scored only 11, goals conceded 14.

I went to 9 of these and the only ones we played well in were 94 96 15 v 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and last year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 10, 2020, 03:35:22 PM
3 bad cup final performances for me: Everton, Arsenal & Chelsea.

Other than that, the only other Wembley performances that have been poor are the Fulham play off final (not cup final) and the Chelsea semi-final. 

We weren't great against Norwich or Spurs but certainly not poor.



The league cup finals against Norwich and Spurs we were bloody good.

They were great but the Norwich performance was below par.  We had the better of the play but it took until the 79th minute to make the breakthrough.  We were on that fantastic run at the time and that performance (together with the Bolton one a few days later) were two of the lesser ones. As I said, we werenít poor but by the same token werenít great.

Ads - Yes agree re the Bolton semi. So poor Iíd forgotten about it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 10, 2020, 05:23:17 PM
Lee Mason will referee the 2020 Carabao Cup final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 10, 2020, 05:26:59 PM
From Greater Manchester. How's that fair?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 10, 2020, 05:33:54 PM
He went to the same school in Bolton as my wife.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ajmant on February 10, 2020, 05:36:37 PM
He supports Bolton apparently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 10, 2020, 06:16:04 PM
From Greater Manchester. How's that fair?

"There was something very iffy about their 8th goal, the biased bastard!"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on February 10, 2020, 06:22:54 PM
He supports Bolton apparently.
So, the 2000 FAC semi-final won't cloud his judgement, then?







 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: wozwebs on February 10, 2020, 07:56:11 PM
Mike Dean is the VAR ref :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 10, 2020, 08:01:56 PM
Mike Dean is the VAR ref :(

City have just been awarded a penalty against us!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 10, 2020, 10:31:49 PM
Lee Masons a funny ref, he is invariably an absolute homer and is easily swayed by a crowd getting on his back and I can think of quite a few times weíve benefitted from that and away from home where we havenít. So at a neutral ground hopefully he wonít be too bad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 10, 2020, 11:39:30 PM
In the 2000 FA Cup final we were crap but so were Chelsea there really wasn't much in it which made it so disappointing to lose.
If only we had showed up that day, it was there for the taking.
In 2015 we were terrible, it was the beginning of the end, with relegation the following season.
Absolute catastrophe for me personally as it cost me a small fortune to get to see it, as I managed to get a week off work and travelled from Australia.
Against  Man City I think we all are not expecting to win but I just hope we can frustrate them and give them a decent game, then you never know.
same. Cost me a small fortune in airfare and getting on the piss for a week in London. My mate, bless him, wouldn’t take my money for the club Wembley ticket that his old man managed to get for us.

Had a class day out in the black lion, kilburn. We lost. I flew back next weekend, travel visa from Aus ran out, so had to pay for that when I got back and a speeding ticket that arrived in the post whilst away, then got made redundant on the Wednesday the next week back at work. Triffic.

Chelsea was honestly 100% shitter than that.

And don't forget the free bed and board in Lewisham....

Shit Rob,  if Iíd known Iíd have bought you an extra pint at closing time in the Black Lion
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 11, 2020, 07:57:02 AM
Currently 20-1 to win at Bet 365.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 11, 2020, 10:37:22 AM
Looking at citys games they have a lot of games in the space of the cup final

H west ham next week
A Leicester  on the saturday
A real madrid 4 days before the cup final
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 11, 2020, 02:18:30 PM
Tickets arrived in the post this morning. Come on you Lions!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 11, 2020, 04:52:29 PM
Nice set of tickets off mr postie today 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on February 11, 2020, 05:03:22 PM
Nice set of tickets off mr postie today 😁
Nice set of tickets off mr postie today 😁
I love posties...great people😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 11, 2020, 05:24:21 PM
For anyone trying now to avoid the queue click on the link on the twitter page for the stadium tours and it will bypass the system and take you through to the ticket office without queuing!
Just tried and it worked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 11, 2020, 05:31:26 PM
Have you got the link?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 11, 2020, 05:34:53 PM
Brilliant to find out I'm sat here waiting when others can just jump in and bypass the queue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 11, 2020, 05:38:56 PM
Brilliant to find out I'm sat here waiting when others can just jump in and bypass the queue.

I just tried it, it doesnt work.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 11, 2020, 05:39:22 PM
And me, just joins the queue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: charleeco7 on February 11, 2020, 05:40:22 PM
Got in with minimal fuss, 2 or 3 minute wait if that, Block 135. Result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 11, 2020, 05:44:14 PM
Been queuing for 45 mins but only 6 mins to go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 11, 2020, 05:51:42 PM
Brilliant to find out I'm sat here waiting when others can just jump in and bypass the queue.

I just tried it, it doesnt work.

Worked absolutely fine for me on my phone.  On my laptop I was number 7000 plus. The legends tour link on the Twitter page redirectedly me immediately and had them booked within minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 11, 2020, 05:57:20 PM
Looks like pretty much everything Lower leve has gone.

Managed to get row 5 in block 533 so pretty happy with that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 11, 2020, 07:44:23 PM
A VCTM dilemma - I have a hotel booked in Ealing the night before  the final - my chances of me and Jnr getting a ticket are minimal , like they were for the play off l - due to a combination of  illness and unemployment - we are both claret members but have only attended the first three home games before my illness took its toll - shall I go down on the Saturday and have a curry at my favourite Indian restaurant in Ealing and watch the game the following day at the Arch Pub (Wembley) with Jnr or take Mrs VCTM down to London town to " do the sights"
Try and keep your responses clean as Mrs VCTM May want to look at the suggestions ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 11, 2020, 07:49:53 PM


That was quite a smooth experience for once, logged in about half four, got allocated 1723 or near in the queue at 5pm, 20 minutes later was all booked up and checked out

Block 137 here we come
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: frank black on February 11, 2020, 07:58:22 PM
A VCTM dilemma - I have a hotel booked in Ealing the night before  the final - my chances of me and Jnr getting a ticket are minimal , like they were for the play off l - due to a combination of  illness and unemployment - we are both claret members but have only attended the first three home games before my illness took its toll - shall I go down on the Saturday and have a curry at my favourite Indian restaurant in Ealing and watch the game the following day at the Arch Pub (Wembley) with Jnr or take Mrs VCTM down to London town to " do the sights"
Try and keep your responses clean as Mrs VCTM May want to look at the suggestions ;)

The fa site has tickets but only in the city end right now. Not sure if some in our end will pop up at some point?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: wozwebs on February 11, 2020, 08:07:00 PM
Annoying that they kept lots of blocks until today, would have liked front row of 532 but wasn't on sale last Tuesday only today. Got 549 row 2 but they were £72 and 532 were £56.

If priority went to us who have had a ST for over 4 seasons then why not let us pick and choose? Oh, well got them now, let's just hope we are not humiliated. Got to go for it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 11, 2020, 08:34:26 PM
Not sure if anyone's posted it yet but this site allows you to see the view from your actual seat:

https://3ddigitalvenue.com/clients/sports/wembley

Really pleased with mine.  I've gone upstairs for the first time (last 3 visits been in level 2).  First few rows, almost as far round as you can go past the 18 yard line towards the half way line.  Fed up of being in the corner or behind the goal.  I don't like the lower tier.  I sat there for the Man U final albeit on the side but felt it was too low.  I always like to be upstairs on 2 tier stands.  I know level 3 is quite a way up but it doesn't seem that higher than level 2 at the front.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 11, 2020, 08:46:55 PM
A VCTM dilemma - I have a hotel booked in Ealing the night before  the final - my chances of me and Jnr getting a ticket are minimal , like they were for the play off l - due to a combination of  illness and unemployment - we are both claret members but have only attended the first three home games before my illness took its toll - shall I go down on the Saturday and have a curry at my favourite Indian restaurant in Ealing and watch the game the following day at the Arch Pub (Wembley) with Jnr or take Mrs VCTM down to London town to " do the sights"
Try and keep your responses clean as Mrs VCTM May want to look at the suggestions ;)

I've just come out of an Ealing committee meeting. The general consensus is 'fuck the sights'!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on February 11, 2020, 08:55:00 PM
Just got the very last ticket in Block 134!

Come on you Lions!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 11, 2020, 09:36:37 PM
No problems and queue not as bad as after the game at Aston Station
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 12, 2020, 08:23:28 AM
I've booked two rooms for the Sunday night at the Wembley Premier Inn, and it looks like I may only need one. They're just reserved as it stands, if anyone is after one let me know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 12, 2020, 08:46:35 AM
Unless theyíre holding a block back, 2.5k left.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 12, 2020, 08:55:42 AM
Unless theyíre holding a block back, 2.5k left.

That waould be about right with 30,000 ST holders and 1,000 odd that Villa have taken for players, sponsors etc.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: simboy on February 12, 2020, 08:59:00 AM
A VCTM dilemma - I have a hotel booked in Ealing the night before  the final - my chances of me and Jnr getting a ticket are minimal , like they were for the play off l - due to a combination of  illness and unemployment - we are both claret members but have only attended the first three home games before my illness took its toll - shall I go down on the Saturday and have a curry at my favourite Indian restaurant in Ealing and watch the game the following day at the Arch Pub (Wembley) with Jnr or take Mrs VCTM down to London town to " do the sights"
Try and keep your responses clean as Mrs VCTM May want to look at the suggestions ;)


Pub and watch the game ... but check the local pubs to Wembley will show the game.

I seem to remember having that conversation in The Arch last May with some bar staff. I'm sure they said the game wouldn't be shown there or any local pub [1/2 a mile radius] however, events and conversations are a little hazy from about 11 in the morning that day so i may be talking complete and utter bollox, and they may have wanted everyone out of their pub! 

   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 12, 2020, 11:06:03 AM
Loads of people watch the game in Harrow on the Hill usually..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 12, 2020, 02:00:50 PM
Loads of people watch the game in Harrow on the Hill usually..
Cheers Amfy
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 12, 2020, 02:13:29 PM
18,000 tickets were sold last night.

We've got an extra allocation of 571 tickets.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 12, 2020, 02:18:47 PM
Total now 33,666.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 12, 2020, 02:52:21 PM
18,000 tickets were sold last night.

Just last night or in total so far ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 12, 2020, 03:04:14 PM
18,000 tickets were sold last night.

We've got an extra allocation of 571 tickets.

How did that happen? Man City not selling out or the Football League returning some?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Towser on February 12, 2020, 03:27:45 PM
18,000 tickets were sold last night.

Just last night or in total so far ?
18000 sold overnight they tweeted.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 12, 2020, 03:47:17 PM
18,000 tickets were sold last night.

Just last night or in total so far ?

At the category change last night. Guess that around 30,000 have been sold.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 12, 2020, 04:22:45 PM
18000 last night so only 12000 to longer term season ticket holders the week before doesn't quite make sense numbers wise.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 12, 2020, 04:36:26 PM
18000 last night so only 12000 to longer term season ticket holders the week before doesn't quite make sense numbers wise.

I can see it, tbh. I'll wager that a lot of our recent ST intake are either kids, or strayed sheep returning within their flock. Me and my brother have 14 years continuous each, but had to wait til yesterday to get his first-season nipper's so that we could sit together. There was at least one other poster on here yesterday in a similar position. If you were in a group where just one of you didn't qualify til yesterday, if you wanted to sit together you had to wait.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Border villan on February 12, 2020, 04:41:44 PM
18000 last night so only 12000 to longer term season ticket holders the week before doesn't quite make sense numbers wise.

I can see it, tbh. I'll wager that a lot of our recent ST intake are either kids, or strayed sheep returning within their flock. Me and my brother have 14 years continuous each, but had to wait til yesterday to get his first-season nipper's so that we could sit together. There was at least one other poster on here yesterday in a similar position. If you were in a group where just one of you didn't qualify til yesterday, if you wanted to sit together you had to wait.

Same for us. We needed seven tickets for long timers and four for newer ST holders so had to wait until yesterday so we could sit together.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on February 12, 2020, 05:07:11 PM
Same here, got mine with a minimum of fuss a week later than I could have done, it worked really well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on February 12, 2020, 05:27:10 PM
Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 12, 2020, 06:06:08 PM
Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?

The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.

There's about 3,000 left.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on February 12, 2020, 06:14:58 PM
I suppose any STís that are not going will have taken their tickets still and passed them on, was probably a bit of wishful thinking that not all 30k would have gone before it went to members
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on February 13, 2020, 09:31:59 AM
I've e-mailed the club to ask but I wonder if anyone on here can advise in the meantime:

I've been to 7 games at home this season as a Claret Member (or will have after Spurs this weekend), Chelsea at home is about to go on sale so a ticket for that would be my 8th, would I then be eligible for a Wembley ticket in the 8+ games criteria? Or would I not be, due to the fact that the Chelsea game won't have taken place by the time we play Man City at Wembley?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: avfc456 on February 13, 2020, 09:34:35 AM
Tweet AVFC support account, they are usually good at getting back to questions like that
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Towser on February 13, 2020, 09:37:22 AM
I've e-mailed the club to ask but I wonder if anyone on here can advise in the meantime:

I've been to 7 games at home this season as a Claret Member (or will have after Spurs this weekend), Chelsea at home is about to go on sale so a ticket for that would be my 8th, would I then be eligible for a Wembley ticket in the 8+ games criteria? Or would I not be, due to the fact that the Chelsea game won't have taken place by the time we play Man City at Wembley?
I am sure someone asked them about Chelsea game and they replied that Chelsea will NOT count
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Towser on February 13, 2020, 09:42:14 AM
Found it here https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1224660575407484929
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 13, 2020, 01:23:00 PM
It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, not sure. If you had to choose relegation and win the League Cup or stay up and lose the League Cup final, what would you go for?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 13, 2020, 01:34:17 PM
It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, not sure. If you had to choose relegation and win the League Cup or stay up and lose the League Cup final, what would you go for?

Iíd normally say win the cup and get relegated as I take the old school view that itís all about winning trophies, HOWEVER, due to the fact that relegation would ensure the departure of Grealish, Mings and McGinn Iím changing my answer this time to lose at Wembley and stay up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 13, 2020, 01:39:57 PM
Stay up all day long.  Times have changed - That cup has been devalued beyond return.  It will be a nice day out and all the rest of it but I'd sooner 3 points in the league.

I can't go through another 3 years of the Championship.  It would set us back years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 13, 2020, 01:56:19 PM
Why canít we do both? I donít see why itís linked that winning a cup will mean relegation. I understand itís a hypothetical question, but come on win and stay up!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 13, 2020, 02:14:58 PM
There's no decision to be made, we'll do both.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 13, 2020, 02:31:41 PM
I've e-mailed the club to ask but I wonder if anyone on here can advise in the meantime:

I've been to 7 games at home this season as a Claret Member (or will have after Spurs this weekend), Chelsea at home is about to go on sale so a ticket for that would be my 8th, would I then be eligible for a Wembley ticket in the 8+ games criteria? Or would I not be, due to the fact that the Chelsea game won't have taken place by the time we play Man City at Wembley?
I am sure someone asked them about Chelsea game and they replied that Chelsea will NOT count

I thought that this kind of thing was normally games attended, rather than tickets bought
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 13, 2020, 02:36:40 PM
Yes, hypothetical and in no way an assumption that it's impossible to do both.

I'm not totally sure myself but i think if you throw in that Grealish will be off either way (again i'm not saying it's certain to happen but could well if you believe the tabloids) i would then take the cup win i think. I know it's all about money these days but it's partly about me saying 'fuck that', and also about the fact that we haven't won anything for 24 years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 13, 2020, 03:11:07 PM
Yes, hypothetical and in no way an assumption that it's impossible to do both.

I'm not totally sure myself but i think if you throw in that Grealish will be off either way (again i'm not saying it's certain to happen but could well if you believe the tabloids) i would then take the cup win i think. I know it's all about money these days but it's partly about me saying 'fuck that', and also about the fact that we haven't won anything for 24 years.
I'd undoubtedly take staying up. 

You'll get people saying 'both' or 'it's not one or the other' but they kind of miss the point of a hypothetical question.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 13, 2020, 03:14:21 PM
I've e-mailed the club to ask but I wonder if anyone on here can advise in the meantime:

I've been to 7 games at home this season as a Claret Member (or will have after Spurs this weekend), Chelsea at home is about to go on sale so a ticket for that would be my 8th, would I then be eligible for a Wembley ticket in the 8+ games criteria? Or would I not be, due to the fact that the Chelsea game won't have taken place by the time we play Man City at Wembley?
I am sure someone asked them about Chelsea game and they replied that Chelsea will NOT count

I thought that this kind of thing was normally games attended, rather than tickets bought

Yeah this is 100% the case. Spurs is the last game that will count towards it, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 13, 2020, 04:05:38 PM
Cup win.

We've not won a trophy for over 20 years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 13, 2020, 04:18:22 PM
It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, not sure. If you had to choose relegation and win the League Cup or stay up and lose the League Cup final, what would you go for?

Iíd normally say win the cup and get relegated as I take the old school view that itís all about winning trophies, HOWEVER, due to the fact that relegation would ensure the departure of Grealish, Mings and McGinn Iím changing my answer this time to lose at Wembley and stay up.

Why would they want to stay somewhere that's not going to win things?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 13, 2020, 04:19:25 PM
Stay up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 13, 2020, 04:50:14 PM
It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, not sure. If you had to choose relegation and win the League Cup or stay up and lose the League Cup final, what would you go for?

Iíd normally say win the cup and get relegated as I take the old school view that itís all about winning trophies, HOWEVER, due to the fact that relegation would ensure the departure of Grealish, Mings and McGinn Iím changing my answer this time to lose at Wembley and stay up.

Why would they want to stay somewhere that's not going to win things?

If we stay up they wonít all leave this summer. If we go down, they will. That was my point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: frank black on February 13, 2020, 05:38:44 PM
Cup win.

We've not won a trophy for over 20 years.

Controversial. I donít fancy going through the relegation situation of selling our best players and facing possible FFP sanctions from the league. To win a cup that none of the top teams really rate. I was kinda hoping that in couple more seasons weíd have bigger fish to fry.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 13, 2020, 05:43:51 PM
Cup win.

We've not won a trophy for over 20 years.

Controversial. I donít fancy going through the relegation situation of selling our best players and facing possible FFP sanctions from the league. To win a cup that none of the top teams really rate. I was kinda hoping that in couple more seasons weíd have bigger fish to fry.

I'm with Drum,

anyway we win this cup get into the Europa league, win that
Then the year after win the champs league and no one gives a shit about another year in the championship when the players are drinking champagne out of old big ears....again
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 13, 2020, 05:55:56 PM
There no guarantee those players will stay even if we stay up - but they might be more likely to if we can offer them European football.

Winning a cup at the beginning of March doesnít send you down in May. Iíd love to see us get this cup and strengthen our hand to keep hold of the players we want when we stay up.

Apart from anything else, itís bloody ridiculous that Blues are the only team round here with a Cup this century. Itís against the laws of nature.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 13, 2020, 06:12:44 PM
There no guarantee those players will stay even if we stay up - but they might be more likely to if we can offer them European football.

Winning a cup at the beginning of March doesnít send you down in May. Iíd love to see us get this cup and strengthen our hand to keep hold of the players we want when we stay up.

Apart from anything else, itís bloody ridiculous that Blues are the only team round here with a Cup this century. Itís against the laws of nature.

Precisely. You donít think global climate catastrophe and the rise of the far right are happening by chance, do you?

We need to win to bring peace to Earth.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on February 13, 2020, 06:33:00 PM
Stay up
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 13, 2020, 06:53:31 PM
Given the choice I would opt to lose the cup final 5-3 after extra time, and then go on to ensure our place in the premier league with a 5-3 win against Arsenal in the penultimate game of the season, followed up by a 4-0 win away at West Ham on the last day of the season, thereby sending them down and finally exacting an appropriate form of revenge for the FA Cup Quarter Final defeat in 1980.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on February 13, 2020, 07:18:03 PM
Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?

The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.

There's about 3,000 left.

There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 13, 2020, 07:40:43 PM
Stay up.
Probably for the first time in the history of me posting on H&V I find myself agreeing with Ads :) - it won't last
It has to be stay up.......however if we did win the cup that would surely boost the confidence of the players and club for the remainder of the season
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 13, 2020, 07:53:45 PM
Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?

The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.

There's about 3,000 left.

There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed

I counted earlier too - there are just under 1500 left. This isnít going past the first set of claret members as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on February 13, 2020, 08:00:50 PM
Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?

The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.

There's about 3,000 left.

There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed

I counted earlier too - there are just under 1500 left. This isnít going past the first set of claret members as far as I can see.
Does this mean we have more than 30000 ST holders?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: spangley1812 on February 13, 2020, 08:05:54 PM
Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?

The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.

There's about 3,000 left.

There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed

I counted earlier too - there are just under 1500 left. This isn’t going past the first set of claret members as far as I can see.
Does this mean we have more than 30000 ST holders?

No about 1,600 have gone to Staff, Sponsors, Hospitality, Players, Club Partners according to that AVFC Twatter Feed
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on February 13, 2020, 08:06:38 PM
If we can somehow win the next two before the final, then weíll stay up anyway. If we lose the next two a demoralising defeat will kill us and take a massive recovery to survive.

An interesting few games then. Three wins on the bounce: Heaven and weíll get maybe 45 points with the momentum. Three defeats and I personally think weíll be dead, we wonít recover and neither will the fanbase especially the online one.

I want the trophy regardless. Iím old school in that way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 13, 2020, 08:17:07 PM
Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?

The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.

There's about 3,000 left.

There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed

I counted earlier too - there are just under 1500 left. This isnít going past the first set of claret members as far as I can see.
Does this mean we have more than 30000 ST holders?

No about 1,600 have gone to Staff, Sponsors, Hospitality, Players, Club Partners according to that AVFC Twatter Feed

When I posted, there were around 3,000 left so either another 1,500 ST holders bought after my post or someone has had another 1,500 away.  All sorts goes on with these ticket distributions and nothing surprises me.  The club, sponsors, players etc would have had first dibs - They wouldn't have been left to feed on the scraps after 30,000 ST holders had been sorted.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 13, 2020, 10:15:19 PM
Staying up. Whatís the point of winning it then be europa in  a gruelling championship season. It would be a disaster for us and kill any hopes of us of promotion.

If the choice is one itís staying up simple as that. Keeping players like mcginn mings and hopefully grealish is much for vital to us than a cup
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 14, 2020, 08:10:12 AM
According to Man Cityís forum, their sales window has already reached the lowest priority and they have nearly 9000 left! Thereís even talk of season ticket holders being able to purchase and extra 2 tickets?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 14, 2020, 10:09:14 AM
According to Man Cityís forum, their sales window has already reached the lowest priority and they have nearly 9000 left! Thereís even talk of season ticket holders being able to purchase and extra 2 tickets?!

They really dont care about this cup. It would be a travesty them winning it really because they dont even care.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 14, 2020, 10:13:53 AM
According to Man City’s forum, their sales window has already reached the lowest priority and they have nearly 9000 left! There’s even talk of season ticket holders being able to purchase and extra 2 tickets?!

They really dont care about this cup. It would be a travesty them winning it really because they dont even care.

Just 2 posts after you said that you would much rather stay up than win the League Cup. Which is fair enough, but why criticise them for not treating this as a priority.

If anyone doesn't want to go to Wembley, I've got a 13 year old who's desperate to see some glory but hasn't got a ticket yet. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 14, 2020, 10:17:04 AM
I hate the Europa League,itís just a huge waste of time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 14, 2020, 10:24:14 AM
I hate the Europa League,itís just a huge waste of time.

No it isnít.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 14, 2020, 11:09:49 AM
I hate the Europa League,itís just a huge waste of time.
No it isnít.
It's absolutely not. It is a fantastic platform for preparing a club to compete in Europe. It stress tests all aspects of club operations and builds up squad strength and mental resilience. Best way to prepare for competing in Champions League.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on February 14, 2020, 11:11:35 AM
Would love a European Tour again, whatever competition it is
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 14, 2020, 11:27:51 AM
I can't get why anyone wouldn't enjoy European football. We have played Man United, Newcastle and Sheffield United about a million times each. We very rarely get to play exotic teams from mad countries. And there's still the possibility of getting a genuine European giant like Inter or Ajax again.

I can't really understand why people prefer playing the same old teams over and over again to the excitement of European football. Okay, having loads of matches moved to Sunday is a bit of a pain, but worth it, imo.

Still, let's not get ahead of ourselves. We have to beat Man City first 🤣. Unlike before our last cup final, I haven't allowed myself to consult Wikipedia and check when our hypothetical European run might start, as it is bad luck I reckon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 14, 2020, 11:33:53 AM
As an aside, any H&V meteorologists know if this storm bollocks is going to have fucked off by the 1st March? Don't fancy 30,000 of us getting replacement buses all the way to That London.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 14, 2020, 11:36:43 AM
I hate the Europa League,itís just a huge waste of time.

Respectfully disagree.

I would love European nights back at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 14, 2020, 12:07:06 PM
I hate the Europa League,itís just a huge waste of time.

Respectfully disagree.

I would love European nights back at Villa Park.
The Inter Milan games are some of my best VP memories.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 14, 2020, 12:15:40 PM
Man City fans may not be that bothered about the League Cup because they are consistently challenging for honours. I'd like to be in the position where I care about the League Cup a little less, it will mean we've won something else.

Our long-term future appears to be safe, relegation, whilst not ideal would merely be a blip given the commitment the owners are showing. A cup win is a permanent record of success.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on February 14, 2020, 12:16:17 PM
Would love a European Tour again, whatever competition it is

I would also love a European tour I love us playing in Europe.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 14, 2020, 12:43:02 PM
The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter.  So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 14, 2020, 12:54:52 PM
The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter.  So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?

I agree with you Dave.

What's the point in football if you're not trying to win something? We support teams and glory, not businesses.

I mentioned this to a Palace fan the other day and he didn't know what to come back with.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 14, 2020, 01:07:38 PM
The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter.  So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?

I agree with you Dave.

What's the point in football if you're not trying to win something? We support teams and glory, not businesses.

I mentioned this to a Palace fan the other day and he didn't know what to come back with.

It's because of the brainwashing that the Premier League and Champions League are the be all and end all.

At the end of the day, most club sides start the season only competing in 3 competitions. The League is normally only going to be won by a handful of the teams and the cups offer a potential for anyone.

That we'd turn up the chance to win one of those three just so that we can be an also-ran in another baffles me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on February 14, 2020, 01:23:58 PM
The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter.  So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?

I agree with you Dave.

What's the point in football if you're not trying to win something? We support teams and glory, not businesses.

I mentioned this to a Palace fan the other day and he didn't know what to come back with.

Well, you'd have thought he would have remembered the importance of winning the Zenith Data Systems Cup.  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 14, 2020, 01:24:45 PM
The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter.  So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?

I agree with you Dave.

What's the point in football if you're not trying to win something? We support teams and glory, not businesses.

I mentioned this to a Palace fan the other day and he didn't know what to come back with.

It's because of the brainwashing that the Premier League and Champions League are the be all and end all.

At the end of the day, most club sides start the season only competing in 3 competitions. The League is normally only going to be won by a handful of the teams and the cups offer a potential for anyone.

That we'd turn up the chance to win one of those three just so that we can be an also-ran in another baffles me.

Totally agree, just the wheels of capitalism innit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 14, 2020, 01:31:05 PM
Not so long ago, Liverpool and Man City were doing cartwheels over winning this competition. Just because their priorities have changed, doesn't mean its worthless.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 14, 2020, 02:13:38 PM
a little Valentines poem

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Leicester one
The Villa two
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2020, 02:23:02 PM
Man City's allocation is on general sale and season ticket holders have been given access to purchase two extra tickets.

What is it with us drawing these absolute tin pot outfits with dire support in finals of late?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 14, 2020, 02:53:08 PM
They have 8,000 left apparently
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 14, 2020, 02:57:06 PM
Man City's allocation is on general sale and season ticket holders have been given access to purchase two extra tickets.

What is it with us drawing these absolute tin pot outfits with dire support in finals of late?

Looks like they only need to have attended one game to get a ticket.

Quote
Supporter Services
@ManCityHelp

3h
CARABAO CUP FINAL: On General Sale!
🎟️
 

Supporters must have previously attended a game at the Etihad Stadium Stadium to purchase a ticket.

Seasoncard holders can purchase an additional 2x tickets.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 14, 2020, 03:08:35 PM
I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Luffbralion on February 14, 2020, 03:18:14 PM
I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...

I went to Maine Road...so presumably I can cherry pick a top seat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on February 14, 2020, 03:41:56 PM
a little Valentines poem

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Leicester one
The Villa two
Hopefully on 1 March, we'll be able to change Leicester for Man City!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 14, 2020, 03:49:15 PM
I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...

You can log into their ticket site using your Facebook, Gmail or Amazon account.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 14, 2020, 04:47:45 PM
Man City's allocation is on general sale and season ticket holders have been given access to purchase two extra tickets.

What is it with us drawing these absolute tin pot outfits with dire support in finals of late?

Looks like they only need to have attended one game to get a ticket.

Quote
Supporter Services
@ManCityHelp

3h
CARABAO CUP FINAL: On General Sale!
🎟️
 

Supporters must have previously attended a game at the Etihad Stadium Stadium to purchase a ticket.

Seasoncard holders can purchase an additional 2x tickets.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 14, 2020, 04:48:20 PM
big club my fucking arse
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 14, 2020, 04:53:56 PM
Embarrassing
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on February 14, 2020, 05:11:46 PM
Man City's allocation is on general sale and season ticket holders have been given access to purchase two extra tickets.

What is it with us drawing these absolute tin pot outfits with dire support in finals of late?

Looks like they only need to have attended one game to get a ticket.

Quote
Supporter Services
@ManCityHelp

3h
CARABAO CUP FINAL: On General Sale!
🎟️
 

Supporters must have previously attended a game at the Etihad Stadium Stadium to purchase a ticket.

Seasoncard holders can purchase an additional 2x tickets.


Man City... doing a Fulham.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 14, 2020, 05:20:48 PM
Itís because they messed up the UEFA cup which was a proper competition and expanded the zEuropa to ridiculous lengths. If you enter it, there is a huge chance it will fuck up your season. They let teams in that have failed in the other competition.
Itís plAyed on Thursday nights meaning every game is on a Sunday.
Itís a complete fuck up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 14, 2020, 05:42:47 PM
Winning stuff > not winning stuff

This is a conversation we've been having since O'Neill, how cups aren't a priority, and there's always bigger fish to fry. During which time we've been humiliated by Arsenal, and put to the sword all too often by countless lesser lights, and despite this 'prioritising' still managing to spend 3 seasons out of the top flight. It's beyond a fucking joke that we've won nothing since 1996. Pisses me off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 14, 2020, 05:59:32 PM
I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...

I went to Maine Road...so presumably I can cherry pick a top seat.
I drove past that awful stadium the other day so I think I will qualify for a ticket next week when they canít sell their allocation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on February 14, 2020, 06:00:39 PM
Winning stuff > not winning stuff

This is a conversation we've been having since O'Neill, how cups aren't a priority, and there's always bigger fish to fry. During which time we've been humiliated by Arsenal, and put to the sword all too often by countless lesser lights, and despite this 'prioritising' still managing to spend 3 seasons out of the top flight. It's beyond a fucking joke that we've won nothing since 1996. Pisses me off.




This.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 14, 2020, 06:10:07 PM
Its going to be like a villa home game at wembley
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 14, 2020, 06:31:23 PM
Man City have just been banned from Europe for two years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 06:38:06 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQwanUyWoAA-av2?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kieron on February 14, 2020, 06:38:16 PM
Presume we're in Europe next season then, win or lose the cup final?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 06:39:45 PM
Presume we're in Europe next season then, win or lose the cup final?

No.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kieron on February 14, 2020, 06:40:12 PM
Arse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: DB on February 14, 2020, 06:42:49 PM
Citeh banned from Europe for 2 seasons.Haha.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on February 14, 2020, 06:43:16 PM
Hell of a precedent that. I imagine there is an appeal process?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 14, 2020, 06:43:46 PM
Financially doped wankers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 06:44:30 PM
If they don't win the appeal then you'd assume Pep will be off in the summer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on February 14, 2020, 06:51:42 PM
Jack always wanted to play in Europe. There you go lad, no excuses now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2020, 06:55:03 PM
Bye bye Pep.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lsvilla on February 14, 2020, 06:56:00 PM
Bid for Sterling after we do them in the final ? I imagine heíll want to ply in Europe.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on February 14, 2020, 06:56:16 PM
If they don't win the appeal then you'd assume Pep will be off in the summer.

We'll need a new manager for next season, so everything is falling into place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on February 14, 2020, 06:57:13 PM
They'll probably want to prove a point in the final by pulverising us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 14, 2020, 06:57:27 PM
Looks like weíll get the test case we wanted. I hope UEFA find some of the money Platini buried.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 14, 2020, 06:59:03 PM
Far too lenient, they should be forced to release their 20 top earners with immediate effect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 06:59:03 PM
If they don't win the appeal then you'd assume Pep will be off in the summer.

We'll need a new manager for next season, so everything is falling into place.

Wouldn't be the first time we've employed a manger that recently lost a League Cup final with Man City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on February 14, 2020, 06:59:13 PM
Looks like weíll get the test case we wanted. I hope UEFA find some of the money Platini buried.

You mean against competition law? Or something?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on February 14, 2020, 07:07:13 PM
We should get the Europe spot.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on February 14, 2020, 07:12:48 PM
We should get the Europe spot.

My thoughts exactly.

Also, once the EFL ban them from the League Cup with immediate affect we'll get our 6th win in it awarded.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 07:13:24 PM
We should get the Europe spot.   

Even though the LC runners up never have before? It was only the FAC that could happen and that was binned a few years ago which is why we didn't play in Europe in 2015/16.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2020, 07:20:49 PM
We should get the Europe spot.   

Even though the LC runners up never have before? It was only the FAC that could happen and that was binned a few years ago which is why we didn't play in Europe in 2015/16.

Who said about being runners up? We should get it just, because.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 14, 2020, 07:24:49 PM
(Not mine)

This is how it feels to be City,
This is how it feels to be small,
This is how it feels when your passport's back in the drawer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 14, 2020, 07:36:53 PM
Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.

Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on February 14, 2020, 07:58:12 PM
Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.

Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.

But..but...no clubs have gone under since FFP was put in place. Uh, apart from...

Darlington
Portsmouth
Port Vale
Coventry City
Aldershot Town
Bolton Wanderers
Bury

But these clubs don't matter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 08:14:42 PM
Most of those clubs' difficulties have nothing to with FFP, a fair few of them were in the shit before FFP even started.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 08:15:47 PM
Citeh statement

Quote
Manchester City is disappointed but not surprised by todayís announcement by the UEFA Adjudicatory Chamber. The Club has always anticipated the ultimate need to seek out an independent body and process to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence in support of its position.
In December 2018, the UEFA Chief Investigator publicly previewed the outcome and sanction he intended to be delivered to Manchester City, before any investigation had even begun. The subsequent flawed and consistently leaked UEFA process he oversaw has meant that there was little doubt in the result that he would deliver.  The Club has formally complained to the UEFA Disciplinary body, a complaint which was validated by a CAS ruling. 

Simply put, this is a case initiated by UEFA, prosecuted by UEFA and judged by UEFA. With this prejudicial process now over, the Club will pursue an impartial judgment as quickly as possible and will therefore, in the first instance, commence proceedings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport at the earliest opportunity.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 14, 2020, 08:45:45 PM
Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.

Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.

But..but...no clubs have gone under since FFP was put in place. Uh, apart from...

Darlington
Portsmouth
Port Vale
Coventry City
Aldershot Town
Bolton Wanderers
Bury

But these clubs don't matter.

Bury apart,  the rest either first went into administration before FFP kicked in, or haven't at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 14, 2020, 09:06:46 PM
For those still after tickets by any means necessary, the sponsor's Twitter page seems to be running a few competitions offering chances to win...

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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 14, 2020, 09:12:28 PM
Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.

Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.

But..but...no clubs have gone under since FFP was put in place. Uh, apart from...

Darlington
Portsmouth
Port Vale
Coventry City
Aldershot Town
Bolton Wanderers
Bury

But these clubs don't matter.

Bury apart,  the rest either first went into administration before FFP kicked in, or haven't at all.

Bolton went into administration in 2019
Coventry City went into administration in 2013
Darlington went into administration in 2012
Port Vale went into administration in 2012
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 14, 2020, 09:17:22 PM
Leicester were cheating fuckers with their administration.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 09:20:44 PM
And off the top of my head none of them were to do with FFP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 14, 2020, 09:25:52 PM
And off the top of my head none of them were to do with FFP.

Not sure what you mean by that.  FFP in League 1 and 2 isn't the same as in the Championship and the Premier League.  It's called SCMP, Salary Cost Management Protocol, whereby clubs are only permitted to spend a proportion of their turnover on wages.  All of the clubs that went into administration did so because they ran out of money in one way or another, so hard to say it wasn't to do with FFP, as spending too much money on wages is one way that most football clubs get into trouble.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 14, 2020, 09:27:59 PM
It's not hard at all. Coventry and ground for example had zero to do with any form of FFP. And the problems were starting before there was any FFP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 14, 2020, 09:33:36 PM
Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.

Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.

But..but...no clubs have gone under since FFP was put in place. Uh, apart from...

Darlington
Portsmouth
Port Vale
Coventry City
Aldershot Town
Bolton Wanderers
Bury

But these clubs don't matter.

Bury apart,  the rest either first went into administration before FFP kicked in, or haven't at all.

Bolton went into administration in 2019
Coventry City went into administration in 2013
Darlington went into administration in 2012
Port Vale went into administration in 2012

I'd forgotten Bolton went, but the rest were before FFP had any effect and has been said, were unrelated to its introduction. Compare and contrast with the ten years esrlier.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on February 14, 2020, 09:34:41 PM
I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...

I went to Maine Road...so presumably I can cherry pick a top seat.
I drove past that awful stadium the other day so I think I will qualify for a ticket next week when they canít sell their allocation.

I lived in Manchester for 11 years and the Etihad was on my doorstep. So I've got a city account as I've done a fair few champions league fixtures because getting tickets for Juventus. Barcelona, Real and Bayern was easy.
Well I've bought two tickets for my father in law in the away end today as I qualified for a ticket.
This must be a record to qualify and get tickets for both ends of the stadium!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on February 14, 2020, 11:31:59 PM
Man City are not & never have been a big club. They've been bankrolled to win things but they are no more a big club than Chelsea are.

With the right owners & good decisions we'll be back at the top table in a few years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 14, 2020, 11:39:38 PM
Man City are not & never have been a big club. They've been bankrolled to win things but they are no more a big club than Chelsea are.

With the right owners & good decisions we'll be back at the top table in a few years.

Disagree, with respect
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 15, 2020, 12:10:03 AM
It's not hard at all. Coventry and ground for example had zero to do with any form of FFP. And the problems were starting before there was any FFP.

Yes, but FFP is supposed to prevent that sort of thing happening or there is no point in FFP.

Have a salary cap and a genuinely level playing field, or have a free for all. No compromise that allows the same team to win everything every year, like in Scotland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 15, 2020, 12:16:38 AM
How does FFP stop what was happpening with the Ricoh? Coventry's situation had zero to do with FFP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 15, 2020, 12:19:22 AM
Coventry's problem started in the same way as Forest, Leicester, Bradford City, Ipswich et al - spending more than they earned in an attempt to stay in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 15, 2020, 12:30:49 AM
How does FFP stop what was happpening with the Ricoh? Coventry's situation had zero to do with FFP.

You mentioned Coventry. Mentioning things where FFP made no impact doesn't help your case. What are the FFP success stories? Which clubs would have gone under had it not been for FFP? If there aren't any, it's a waste of time. Bin it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 15, 2020, 12:33:28 AM
How does FFP stop what was happpening with the Ricoh? Coventry's situation had zero to do with FFP.

You mentioned Coventry. Mentioning things where FFP made no impact doesn't help your case. What are the FFP success stories? Which clubs would have gone under had it not been for FFP? If there aren't any, it's a waste of time. Bin it.

Look at how many clubs went into administration before FFP, and how many since. There's your answer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 15, 2020, 12:35:49 AM
Good grief. I mentioned Coventry in reply to someone else. FFP can't stop situations like the Ricoh, or incompetent idiots runnings clubs, as we well know. It doesn't solve every possible scenario that can fuck a club over, but it stops a lot of them. FFP obviously works as the number of clubs going into adminstration or out of business before it existed was far higher than have gone since it was introduced.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 15, 2020, 05:56:08 AM
It's not hard at all. Coventry and ground for example had zero to do with any form of FFP. And the problems were starting before there was any FFP.

Yes, but FFP is supposed to prevent that sort of thing happening or there is no point in FFP.

Have a salary cap and a genuinely level playing field, or have a free for all. No compromise that allows the same team to win everything every year, like in Scotland.

I endorse this opinion. Along with an equitable redistribution of foreign income streams amongst all PL clubs, which I agree will massively impact us when our takeover of Africa is total, but I have to practice what I preach.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 15, 2020, 06:00:58 AM
The FFP rules outside the top flight are aimed at stopping clubs living outside their means, and has worked OK. The different FFP rules for the top flight/Europe are aimed at keeping the elite closed shop in place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 15, 2020, 06:53:38 AM
They'll probably want to prove a point in the final by pulverising us.

They would more than likely want to pulverise Real Madrid and go on to win the CL to prove a point. And that game is a few days before the league cup final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 15, 2020, 11:13:24 AM
Just posted this on the Other Football thread but re-sharing here because I'm a twat like that. The City thing isn't about FFP: https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1228626421628784640
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 15, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
Leaving an audit trail of your wrong doing, which includes classless insults at the authorities, proves that money cannot buy you class, history or intelligence it seems.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 15, 2020, 02:21:43 PM
A story I was told last night regarding Man City when they played at Sheffield United.

Apparently the board were at a particular table in the restaurant at the Hotel at the ground. The players and staff were sat separately.

The execs asked the staff at Copthorne for particular sets of crockery. They didn't have it. So, it was purchased at a cost of £6k (cost absorbed by Man City) . It was then washed etc and offered to them and they said to keep it.

So basically they laid £6k for a meal.

Ridiculous and frivolous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 15, 2020, 10:10:37 PM
I wonder if i buy a city ticket for a home game whther id be able to get a ticket in their end for final 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 15, 2020, 11:43:12 PM
I wonder if i buy a city ticket for a home game whther id be able to get a ticket in their end for final 😁

Not condoning it all, but a lad I know is a Villa fan, but despite his best efforts, his sons 'support' Manchester City.  He took them to one home game last season and because of that, was able to get tickets for the three of them to go to th League a Cup final last season. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 16, 2020, 08:58:51 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/ZmsZqM2/BC0-C93-E8-4-B08-40-BE-9428-544-C72188472.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZmsZqM2)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 16, 2020, 09:51:04 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/ZmsZqM2/BC0-C93-E8-4-B08-40-BE-9428-544-C72188472.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZmsZqM2)


Christ, Old Trafford with gates of about 17k in that case
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 16, 2020, 10:05:57 AM
I wonder if i buy a city ticket for a home game whther id be able to get a ticket in their end for final 😁

I would imagine the match ticket you bought would have had to have been played for it to count as booking history.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 16, 2020, 05:40:23 PM
God help us if we defend loke that against city. It could be a absolute mauling
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 16, 2020, 08:07:08 PM
Nah, we will be fine. The family Silverware will be coming home! Weíll be running round the Bullring with the cup, weíll be running round the bullring with the cup.......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 16, 2020, 08:20:37 PM
Nah, we will be fine. The family Silverware will be coming home! Weíll be running round the Bullring with the cup, weíll be running round the bullring with the cup.......

Hehe hope so mate
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 16, 2020, 09:26:23 PM
Just had a horrible thought...wasnít Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on February 16, 2020, 09:28:55 PM
Just had a horrible thought...wasn’t Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?

Think it was Burnley at home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 16, 2020, 09:48:31 PM
Yeah a home game we lost to Burnley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on February 17, 2020, 12:36:35 AM
Just had a horrible thought...wasnít Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Correct. It was our last away game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 18, 2020, 10:02:30 AM
Just had a horrible thought...wasnít Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Correct. It was our last away game.
Mane hat trick in about 40 seconds
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on February 18, 2020, 10:32:57 AM
Im sure that was the week the squad found out the news that Benteke was off. Our form just fell off a cliff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 18, 2020, 11:47:33 AM
Just had a horrible thought...wasn’t Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?

Think it was Burnley at home.

Yep, we lost away at Southampton and home against Burnley just before the final - it became clear the Sherwood magic was starting to wear off at this point.

Two standout memories from the respective games were getting an earful from a group of lads hanging outside the maccies in Southampton town centre after the game, and being massively impressed with Tom Heaton for Burnley. Remember wishing we would sign him after that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 18, 2020, 12:24:08 PM
Just had a horrible thought...wasnít Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Correct. It was our last away game.
Mane hat trick in about 40 seconds

One of the lowest points ever for me.  We were so bloody dreadful that day. Ot could ahve been 10 pr 11.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dalians umbrella on February 18, 2020, 12:25:54 PM
Has anyone received their coach tickets yet? Thanks
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 18, 2020, 01:26:58 PM
Claret Members with 8+, we ready for 5pm then?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 18, 2020, 02:39:46 PM
wierdly Iím a bit more confident of not getting smashed after the Spurs game

I know we lost but played well and managed to look like a proper team that can compete against the so called top six

anyway my hope level is now at a full 95% while my reality level is still a meagre 3.1%

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flin5tone on February 18, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
My Tickets arrived this morning along with a open letter from Christian Purslow about anti-social fan behaviour outside Wembley stadium,hopefully the idiots will take note of it
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on February 18, 2020, 04:28:58 PM
Claret Members with 8+, we ready for 5pm then?

Just gearing up now. How many do you reckon fall into this category?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 18, 2020, 04:37:53 PM
More than theres tickets left.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on February 18, 2020, 05:21:55 PM
Boom. Signed, sealed and awaiting delivery!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 18, 2020, 05:25:42 PM
Boom. Signed, sealed and awaiting delivery!

Good work! See you at Wembley UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: 260475 on February 18, 2020, 05:32:15 PM
Got a good one in area 141, although not without drama....

Logged in queue and admitted after 3 mins or so...then all I could see was 'coming soon' Frantically turned off all script blockers etc., still no good.

Switched browser and was 6500 in that queue

Re-logged in on original browser then each seat I tried had become unavailable....went back to stadium plan and finally got one.

Didn't log out until I had email confirmation...Phew

They dont have to sell all the tickets in 15 minutes, so why don't they throttle the queue for a calmer experience ffs?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 18, 2020, 05:38:25 PM
There looks like there's about 350 left unless we are holding back blocks?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: bones. on February 18, 2020, 05:54:31 PM
468 left two mins ago. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on February 18, 2020, 06:02:41 PM
Whatís the criteria to buy a ticket today?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 18, 2020, 06:03:57 PM
Whatís the criteria to buy a ticket today?
Claret members 8+
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 18, 2020, 06:10:24 PM
Just under 300 left.

Hopefully everybody in this criteria manged to buy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on February 18, 2020, 06:27:52 PM
Have the club been holding some tickets back? Just looked and back up to around 700 available at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nordenvillain on February 18, 2020, 06:30:54 PM
A few minutes ago there were 708 tickets left, including 220 in blocks 230-237 that would appear to be Club Wembley ones at £125-£150. We got our 3 tickets at £92 for my 2 sons and £47 for me in block 141.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 18, 2020, 06:36:48 PM
141 seems to be up and down. Up atm
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 18, 2020, 06:46:43 PM
Had a quick scoot around the ticket resellers (vermin scumbags more like), if you want a Citeh ticket you can pick them up from about £75 and there's a plentiful supply, Villa tickets start at about £300 + postage + a service charge that some resellers are charging over £200 per ticket for.

Quite honestly the football family can fuck off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 18, 2020, 06:48:49 PM
I make it 736 left. Maybe they released some more.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 18, 2020, 06:50:19 PM
I make it 736 left. Maybe they released some more.

It's also people emptying their baskets, putting 3 or 4 in and then only being able to buy 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rotterdam on February 18, 2020, 07:16:50 PM
I've had a bit of luck.
My mate has a good job at the FA, last night he dropped me a note confirming two Club Wembley tickets...for nowt! Rotters Jnr is a very happy eight year old. He did though ask if we could still sing?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 18, 2020, 07:43:48 PM
I've had a bit of luck.
My mate has a good job at the FA, last night he dropped me a note confirming two Club Wembley tickets...for nowt! Rotters Jnr is a very happy eight year old. He did though ask if we could still sing?

Brilliant. Enjoy your day!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: lennythekad on February 18, 2020, 08:42:02 PM
Back up to 800 left.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 18, 2020, 08:58:58 PM
Leeds would have sold out the whole stadium, the Nou Camp and the Colosseum by now. Shit support.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on February 18, 2020, 09:15:48 PM
I guess if you were the type of fan to go to 8 homes games out of 13 you'd have probably bought a season ticket, so I guess there aren't that many that qualify.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: lennythekad on February 18, 2020, 10:36:44 PM
Anybody thatís ever been to the Etihad, can have three tickets!. Embarrassing!.
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 18, 2020, 11:02:47 PM
Anybody thatís ever been to the Etihad, can have three tickets!. Embarrassing!.
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Let's be honest, though, we've spent the last ten years circling the plug hole in the Premier League, waiting for the inevitable, 3 years in the championship, and a season fighting relegation (thus far).

They've been playing in the Champions League, have been to and actually won bigger finals at Wembley, and have won the league more than once.

I don't buy this OMG! Look at them! Anyone who has got an Elbow album qualifies! narrative (even though I've engaged in it myself a bit).

They've had a decade of shed loads of top level matches and silverware, we've had fuck all.

No wonder they're not that arsed about the Carabou Cup final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on February 18, 2020, 11:12:30 PM
Let's hope, come 1st March, that their team don't give a fuck about the game too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: 260475 on February 18, 2020, 11:22:44 PM
Isn't a reason not to go though is it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 18, 2020, 11:44:17 PM
Anybody thatís ever been to the Etihad, can have three tickets!. Embarrassing!.
(https://i.ibb.co/sgZ8VXn/6-DE56783-2-F20-4-D65-8-B40-9-A0-CF9-D27822.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sgZ8VXn)


Let's be honest, though, we've spent the last ten years circling the plug hole in the Premier League, waiting for the inevitable, 3 years in the championship, and a season fighting relegation (thus far).

They've been playing in the Champions League, have been to and actually won bigger finals at Wembley, and have won the league more than once.

I don't buy this OMG! Look at them! Anyone who has got an Elbow album qualifies! narrative (even though I've engaged in it myself a bit).

They've had a decade of shed loads of top level matches and silverware, we've had fuck all.

No wonder they're not that arsed about the Carabou Cup final.

I reckon if we had been winning trophies non-stop for a decade and were playing against 20/1 underdogs in a major final, I'd be even more keen to go than I am now, burdened by memories of 2015 and the thinking that, if we're honest, we need a bit of a miracle.

I can't understand any Arsenalesque not giving a shit about major cup finals. I wouldn't lose sleep if we ever lost a Charity Shield, but this is hardly the same.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaBoy_23 on February 18, 2020, 11:54:39 PM
If Iíd supported a team as shit as City for as long as Iíve supported Villa Iíd be milking every cup final for as long as I physically could out of blind fear that Iíd wake up and it all would have been a dream.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 19, 2020, 12:32:30 AM
Personally, I put the league way ahead of the League Cup and that's as a Villa fan.

I went to the Wolves freebie but apart from that, I haven't bothered with any cup game.  On the other hand, I've been to every league game with the exception of Norwich away (which I reluctantly missed because it was my brother in laws 60th).

Football isn't cheap and a trip to Wembley is a good £200.  There's also the balance of keeping the other half happy.

I fully understand City fans not going to Wembley for this game.  I've only just about mustered the enthusiasm myself.  I'm far more bothered about how we get on, on Saturday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on February 19, 2020, 05:57:40 AM
I'd love to go to this. I love living abroad, but I've missed so many trips to Wembley because of it.

I think we'll definitely beat Man City. That's just how it's going to be, as mad as that sounds. It'll be up and down, and nailbiting stuff, but ultimately Jack will have his hands on that Coca Cola Cup trophy (as it'll always be known to me) at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on February 19, 2020, 06:21:26 AM
Any club that goes to wembley 5 times in 12 months might struggle to sell out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 19, 2020, 07:42:10 AM
Don't they struggle to sell out every game at home despite their obvious successes?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 19, 2020, 07:50:36 AM
Its poor. There's no reasonable defence of their rapid descent into Arsenalism.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: avfc456 on February 19, 2020, 08:09:27 AM
Personally, I put the league way ahead of the League Cup and that's as a Villa fan.

I went to the Wolves freebie but apart from that, I haven't bothered with any cup game.  On the other hand, I've been to every league game with the exception of Norwich away (which I reluctantly missed because it was my brother in laws 60th).

Football isn't cheap and a trip to Wembley is a good £200.  There's also the balance of keeping the other half happy.

I fully understand City fans not going to Wembley for this game.  I've only just about mustered the enthusiasm myself.  I'm far more bothered about how we get on, on Saturday.

Spot on this agree with every word- we live in a time where its easy to go on twitter read all seats are not sold out and bang the tinpot support drum, I remember under the brief success we had under MON some of the very average away followings we had, even the FA cup semi final was not a sell out in our end and its not like we had the prolonged success that City have had- point being is the more games you have, most people on average incomes like myself with a mortgage and a family prioritise and pick and choose

Football is an expensive business, with aways, champions league games, league and FA cup games to fork out for when most are televised anyway, I can more than understand why Man City fans are picking and choosing and don't find a tie against a team that will most likely be less competitive than their community shield tie at the start of the season worth shelling a few hundred notes out for when they play Real Madrid the same week
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on February 19, 2020, 08:31:19 AM
Personally, I put the league way ahead of the League Cup and that's as a Villa fan.

I went to the Wolves freebie but apart from that, I haven't bothered with any cup game.  On the other hand, I've been to every league game with the exception of Norwich away (which I reluctantly missed because it was my brother in laws 60th).

Football isn't cheap and a trip to Wembley is a good £200.  There's also the balance of keeping the other half happy.

I fully understand City fans not going to Wembley for this game.  I've only just about mustered the enthusiasm myself.  I'm far more bothered about how we get on, on Saturday.
This is pretty much where I'm at. The difference is: I won't use my ticket to go ...
There; I've said it and committed to not going, which makes me feel a little shabby.

It's not a case of being defeatist about the game - several have suggested there may be an upset, and I agree there could be. It's more about the need for a total focus on the League, and I think the LCF is an unnecessary distraction.


(I realise that the 2 are not mutually exclusive ... ; there's a slightly perverse logic in what I'm doing, I accept that)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 19, 2020, 08:42:06 AM
As I think it was Bill Paisley once said

ďBig Clubs win thingsĒ

If we win a week on Sunday itíll be our 21st Major trophy no matter how much people downplay the League Cup these days. If itís so unimportant I assume all the other clubs will remove their League Cup wins from their trophy counts as well.......thought not.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 19, 2020, 08:53:44 AM
As I think it was Bill Paisley once said

ďBig Clubs win thingsĒ

If we win a week on Sunday itíll be our 21st Major trophy no matter how much people downplay the League Cup these days. If itís so unimportant I assume all the other clubs will remove their League Cup wins from their trophy counts as well.......thought not.



Well said!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 19, 2020, 09:07:44 AM
As I think it was Bill Paisley once said

ďBig Clubs win thingsĒ

If we win a week on Sunday itíll be our 21st Major trophy no matter how much people downplay the League Cup these days. If itís so unimportant I assume all the other clubs will remove their League Cup wins from their trophy counts as well.......thought not.



I saw a list of Liverpoolís honours last year and they now appear to be including European Super Cups in their total.

We should therefore do the same so if we win next week in my book that will be our 22nd trophy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 19, 2020, 09:34:26 AM
We shouldn't count European Super Cups as it's a slippery slope to counting Charity Shields which would mean the likes of Everton and Tottenham overtake our trophy count. No fucking thanks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 19, 2020, 09:38:10 AM
We shouldn't count European Super Cups as it's a slippery slope to counting Charity Shields which would mean the likes of Everton and Tottenham overtake our trophy count. No fucking thanks.

I'd like to throw in the Peace Cup and the Hong Kong Sevens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 09:47:37 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: leylandalbion on February 19, 2020, 09:55:58 AM
Returns?  Everyone who has a ticket has logged on and bought one. The club wouldn't accept returns
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 19, 2020, 09:56:04 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final

Absolutely no chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 19, 2020, 10:09:48 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final

Why would anyone return their cup final ticket because weíd lost a league game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on February 19, 2020, 10:33:58 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final

What a ray of sunshine you are :-) :-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 19, 2020, 10:38:29 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 19, 2020, 10:41:24 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final

I imagine we will lose ten-nil to Southampton, and everyone will turn up at Wembley just so they can join in with the flagellation and effigy-burning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: luke95 on February 19, 2020, 11:24:07 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Does that also mean if we beat Southampton with a decent display we'll have 100,000 down for the final without tickets ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 19, 2020, 12:05:37 PM
I'd still go to the final even if we were relegated today on a technicality and the whole senior team simultaneously came down with the Coronavirus.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 19, 2020, 12:05:58 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final


Well Iím returning mine after reading this post
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 12:22:29 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 12:24:07 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final

What a ray of sunshine you are :-) :-)

Thanks. Just for the record ill be there whther we lose or not. Just because i think some fans will do it doesnt mean i would
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Caribbeanvillan on February 19, 2020, 12:24:13 PM
@Dimitri - can you message me after Sunday and I'll take yours off you, even if we lose.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on February 19, 2020, 12:26:19 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final

What a ray of sunshine you are :-) :-)

Thanks. Just for the record ill be there whther we lose or not. Just because i think some fans will do it doesnt mean i would

I've got a bedsheet ready; it could go either way depending on the result against the Saints.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 12:29:03 PM
@Dimitri - can you message me after Sunday and I'll take yours off you, even if we lose.

😂

Well how did i get a ticket of i hate our club thats the mystery? I must have gone to 8 or more games. But yeah i dislike this club because i dare say some fans might return tickets accoridng to alex. 😂
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 19, 2020, 12:58:41 PM
Why wouldn't you want to go to Wembley? Even after the inevitable 12-0 defeat and disgraceful performance at Southampton?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 19, 2020, 01:51:09 PM
@Dimitri - can you message me after Sunday and I'll take yours off you, even if we lose.

😂

Well how did i get a ticket of i hate our club thats the mystery? I must have gone to 8 or more games. But yeah i dislike this club because i dare say some fans might return tickets accoridng to alex. 😂
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: colin69 on February 19, 2020, 01:52:00 PM
Maybe the same people who left at half time against Man City and the bloke that left in a huff at half time against Spurs will return theirs. But I doubt it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 19, 2020, 02:05:15 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

So "7 or 8" people don't represent 30k of the fanbase, but you do?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 19, 2020, 02:35:09 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final

You've made some strange posts of late. Can you even return a ticket anyway?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on February 19, 2020, 04:26:53 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final

You've made some strange posts of late. Can you even return a ticket anyway?

No you can't return.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pipe on February 19, 2020, 04:49:18 PM
Don`t return the. Send one each to my daughter and me! Cheers
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 19, 2020, 05:27:26 PM
Maybe the same people who left at half time against Man City and the bloke that left in a huff at half time against Spurs will return theirs. But I doubt it.

Some people near me left on 81 minutes of the semi final second leg. Wonder if they'll do the same at Wembley. Assuming they don't return their tickets next week of course.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Moose on February 19, 2020, 05:50:48 PM
Anybody aware if there are many left?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 19, 2020, 07:21:32 PM
About 500-600 roughly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Moose on February 19, 2020, 07:34:42 PM
Hope some left by 5pm tomorrow.......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on February 19, 2020, 07:47:10 PM
Don't they struggle to sell out every game at home despite their obvious successes?
Watching the tonight against West Ham and there's loads of empty seats. West Ham even giving city a rendition of "empty seats my lord" and "shit support my lord" There have been some very dodgy decisions all in favour of West Ham.I don't want to start a conspiracy but the ref is.......Kevin Friend. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 08:59:52 PM
@Dimitri - can you message me after Sunday and I'll take yours off you, even if we lose.

😂

Well how did i get a ticket of i hate our club thats the mystery? I must have gone to 8 or more games. But yeah i dislike this club because i dare say some fans might return tickets accoridng to alex. 😂
(https://i.ibb.co/SNKbQkQ/20200219-134851.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jhLmVCV)

Jesus let it go. You obsessed with me or something?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 09:01:42 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

So "7 or 8" people don't represent 30k of the fanbase, but you do?

Didnt say that did i?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 09:05:39 PM
Maybe the same people who left at half time against Man City and the bloke that left in a huff at half time against Spurs will return theirs. But I doubt it.

Thats my point colin some may return them or sell them?

Just because it doesnt make sense to some people here doesnt mean it wont happen. Dont see what i have said wrong. But say some just want to beat others for anything they post.

Anyway lets keeo this on subject. Am looking forward to next week 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 19, 2020, 09:12:16 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on February 19, 2020, 09:20:43 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
Say what you think 😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 19, 2020, 10:09:42 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
Say what you think 😉

It just makes me laugh when people come on here and manage the truly unique feat of uniting very nearly every single one of us against their nonsensical opinions and then go on about how we're all 'jumping on them' or somehow missing the point.

95% of the people on here most of the time can't agree what the fucking date is. If they're all agreeing in disagreeing with you, I guarantee you, you're wrong.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on February 19, 2020, 10:28:14 PM
Please villa get some points on the board before the cup final so we can all relax and enjoy it properly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 19, 2020, 11:01:01 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
Say what you think 😉

It just makes me laugh when people come on here and manage the truly unique feat of uniting very nearly every single one of us against their nonsensical opinions and then go on about how we're all 'jumping on them' or somehow missing the point.

95% of the people on here most of the time can't agree what the fucking date is. If they're all agreeing in disagreeing with you, I guarantee you, you're wrong.

Truth!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 19, 2020, 11:04:53 PM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
Say what you think 😉

It just makes me laugh when people come on here and manage the truly unique feat of uniting very nearly every single one of us against their nonsensical opinions and then go on about how we're all 'jumping on them' or somehow missing the point.

95% of the people on here most of the time can't agree what the fucking date is. If they're all agreeing in disagreeing with you, I guarantee you, you're wrong.

Truth!

Oh no it isn't! Erm, oh, yes it actually is. As someone who disagrees with a lot of people with my relentless positivity. This is rather odd.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 20, 2020, 06:25:18 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.


So your comparing me to a ADHD 3 year old? So you prove your point by insulting me? Show me a post where I have insulted any poster by name calling ?where I have insulted anyone one on this site. Go on dig it up? Show me a post I have named called anyone ?

Your insult is absolutely pathetic and is bullying. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. How do you do know no one on this site has ADHD or a relative that suffers from it ? Bow your head in shame Paulie
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on February 20, 2020, 08:43:44 AM
I knew I was right
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 20, 2020, 09:34:33 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.


So your comparing me to a ADHD 3 year old? So you prove your point by insulting me? Show me a post where I have insulted any poster by name calling ?where I have insulted anyone one on this site. Go on dig it up? Show me a post I have named called anyone ?

Your insult is absolutely pathetic and is bullying. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. How do you do know no one on this site has ADHD or a relative that suffers from it ? Bow your head in shame Paulie
He's not comparing you to an ADHD 3 year old.  He's saying some of your daft opinions could be rebutted by a 3 year old.  Of course he's exagerating a bit, but I know 6 or 7 year olds who would see through some of your posts.  Have an opinion and express it, just turn the hyperbole down a bit from 11.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 20, 2020, 10:19:08 AM
If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns  for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us

What a ridiculous comment.

Just because 7 or 8 of you  really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase  so you dont know that.

God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus

The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.


So your comparing me to a ADHD 3 year old? So you prove your point by insulting me? Show me a post where I have insulted any poster by name calling ?where I have insulted anyone one on this site. Go on dig it up? Show me a post I have named called anyone ?

Your insult is absolutely pathetic and is bullying. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. How do you do know no one on this site has ADHD or a relative that suffers from it ? Bow your head in shame Paulie
He's not comparing you to an ADHD 3 year old.  He's saying some of your daft opinions could be rebutted by a 3 year old.  Of course he's exagerating a bit, but I know 6 or 7 year olds who would see through some of your posts.  Have an opinion and express it, just turn the hyperbole down a bit from 11.

Its only daft because you don agree with it. All i said was some fans might return some tickets if we lose on saturday or sell them. What paulie has said is much much worse. But hey you carry in defending that.

Talking about people with ADHD is ridiculous. I know about this as i have someone with the family with it. Its a mental illness do you know the struggle people with ADHD have? So i suggest the poster thinks long and hard before spouting ridiculous things like this in future..

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on February 20, 2020, 10:41:17 AM
Iím also the first to call out bullying, disrespect, I donít even sing anti-blues or anyone chants!l

But the above points are valid, Demetri presuming you are not trolling or on a wind up, to suggest folk will return Wembley tickets because we lose a game, when so so so many are scrabbling for them (am arrived overseas and I could have given mine to a heck of a lot of desperate folk I know) is daft if not a bit insulting.

As was pointed out you werenít being insulted, but how easily someone could reason your view was wrong, was colourfully pointed out.

It was also going to rub people up the wrong way (as letís be objective here you seem
To do quite often) when I think you, suggested you hadnít decided whether you could be bothered to go to Wembley. Can you imagine how that feels to many who canít go? Of course people are going to say donít bother then. The latest comment follows that. It does read like trolling.

I also have family with attention difficulties, I also work with folk with them. I found your opinions more uncomfortable than the comment like that, which was colourful but basically valid, to achieve such a universal response on here is unusual, and said with respect, I think you might benefit from taking some of that feedback.

H&V is a wonderful forum where many folk have found solace in the toughest of times, hopefully youíll stick with it, but as someone said maybe toning down the hyperbole will rub less people up the wrong way, less often.


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 20, 2020, 10:43:21 AM
Amusing photo of a Villa fan making up the numbers at Man City last night to get access to 3 tickets for Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 20, 2020, 10:44:38 AM
Amusing photo of a Villa fan making up the numbers at Man City last night to get access to 3 tickets for Wembley.

https://twitter.com/villawill84/status/1230247582309453825?s=12

There if anyone wants to see it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 20, 2020, 11:00:50 AM
Iím also the first to call out bullying, disrespect, I donít even sing anti-blues or anyone chants!l

But the above points are valid, Demetri presuming you are not trolling or on a wind up, to suggest folk will return Wembley tickets because we lose a game, when so so so many are scrabbling for them (am arrived overseas and I could have given mine to a heck of a lot of desperate folk I know) is daft if not a bit insulting.

As was pointed out you werenít being insulted, but how easily someone could reason your view was wrong, was colourfully pointed out.

It was also going to rub people up the wrong way (as letís be objective here you seem
To do quite often) when I think you, suggested you hadnít decided whether you could be bothered to go to Wembley. Can you imagine how that feels to many who canít go? Of course people are going to say donít bother then. The latest comment follows that. It does read like trolling.

I also have family with attention difficulties, I also work with folk with them. I found your opinions more uncomfortable than the comment like that, which was colourful but basically valid, to achieve such a universal response on here is unusual, and said with respect, I think you might benefit from taking some of that feedback.

H&V is a wonderful forum where many folk have found solace in the toughest of times, hopefully youíll stick with it, but as someone said maybe toning down the hyperbole will rub less people up the wrong way, less often.

Thank you for replying in a respectful manner.

I dont troll or wind up. Thats not in my nature however i do believe some may try sell their tickets if we get tonked.. Dont think i have said anything  unreasonable  in expressibg that opinion.

With my comment about not botherd about going to seeus get tonked. I dont live in brum so i obviously dont agve a ST. Hiwver i go to enoygh games ti qualify for a ticket. If i had chosen not to go that just opens the door for another villa fan to get my ticket. Dont see why anyone should be wound up becaus i chose not to go.be angry at the club not me they set the criteria.

I dont agree how my comment is worse? I havent insulted anyone. Not a person. If you go look into the engels post i openly admitted i was wrong the way i was it waa hwat in the moment.  I acknowledge when i am wrong and i was with engels. But comparing to me a ADHD child is not on in any capacity in my view. Its a outrage.

not saying H AND V  isnt.im a die hard villa fan have been all my life. But when i am getting comments like  " i knew it"  which is blatant trolling and throwing insults i will defend myself i feel needed.  I see various other negative comments on here its not just me.

Again thank you for your post and i will certainly take your words on board 👍 lets leave it there and get back on subject  😃
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 20, 2020, 11:31:07 AM
I think Dem is just enjoying himself free from the shackles of the ridiculous moderating on VT, aren't you mate?! ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 20, 2020, 12:33:43 PM
I think Dem is just enjoying himself free from the shackles of the ridiculous moderating on VT, aren't you mate?! ;)

Hahaha 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kieron on February 20, 2020, 04:12:55 PM
He needs a new keyboard where the letters are all in their proper place though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 20, 2020, 04:14:41 PM
He needs a new keyboard where the letters are all in their proper place though.

Hahaha

He's hitting all the right keys, just not necessarily in the right order...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 20, 2020, 05:06:10 PM
Sold out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on February 20, 2020, 05:09:15 PM
I managed to get on but tickets available were over £100!

then in a flash sold out. boo.

telly for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on February 20, 2020, 05:10:31 PM
I managed to get on but tickets available were over £100!

then in a flash sold out. boo.

telly for me.

Get back on and keep refreshing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 20, 2020, 05:11:17 PM
Don't worry I'm assured plenty will be returning their tickets after Saturday's heavy defeat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on February 20, 2020, 05:15:27 PM
Managed to get one but £150, the adult price range was stated as £40-£100 so I'd better get to present the trophy to Jack at that price.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 20, 2020, 05:19:46 PM
You get to play at centre half for Man City I believe.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 20, 2020, 05:20:26 PM
Don't worry I'm assured plenty will be returning their tickets after Saturday's heavy defeat.

Or they will sell it for double the price.hope that doesnt happen like play off final
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sleeuwenhoek on February 20, 2020, 05:25:38 PM
If you get into the site keep refreshing, transactions that don't get completed keep appearing, just got one yay!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 20, 2020, 05:31:26 PM
Amusing photo of a Villa fan making up the numbers at Man City last night to get access to 3 tickets for Wembley.

https://twitter.com/villawill84/status/1230247582309453825?s=12

There if anyone wants to see it.

Respect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 20, 2020, 05:40:39 PM
1 available on line block 230
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on February 20, 2020, 05:57:44 PM
If you get into the site keep refreshing, transactions that don't get completed keep appearing, just got one yay!

Cheers the Mrs just got a ticket after refreshing 45 minutes after it said sold out, a few tickets keep appearing still.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: claret+blue ed on February 20, 2020, 06:02:30 PM
That was certainly stressful, I wasnít quick enough to add the seat to the basket, kept refreshing and got one in the end. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 20, 2020, 06:18:39 PM
why have man city been given extra tickets when they cant sell original set , thet have 34800 now to our 33666 ffs surely we should have had them as we have sold out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Moose on February 20, 2020, 06:18:49 PM
Got one too! Come on you Villa boys!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 20, 2020, 06:26:48 PM
3 available now
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 20, 2020, 06:28:40 PM
why have man city been given extra tickets when they cant sell original set , thet have 34800 now to our 33666 ffs surely we should have had them as we have sold out

Thats a absolute farce
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 20, 2020, 06:31:31 PM
why have man city been given extra tickets when they cant sell original set , thet have 34800 now to our 33666 ffs surely we should have had them as we have sold out

Thats a absolute farce

It's a quirk of the layout of the stadium, that's all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 20, 2020, 06:45:05 PM
no its not otherwise they would have stated that was the original allocation , so why give them the extra when we could sell wembley on our own ffs
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 20, 2020, 06:49:21 PM
no its not otherwise they would have stated that was the original allocation , so why give them the extra when we could sell wembley on our own ffs

If there was 45k tickets for our fans we would sell it out easily for this game
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 20, 2020, 06:50:27 PM
absolutely
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 20, 2020, 06:53:42 PM
1 available 547
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 20, 2020, 06:59:02 PM
no its not otherwise they would have stated that was the original allocation , so why give them the extra when we could sell wembley on our own ffs

It was stated on their website on the 31st of January, they've got the east end of the ground with an allocation of 34,854. We have the west end, which has around about a thousand fewer seats.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 20, 2020, 07:42:38 PM
Villa sold out their allocation of 33,666.

City's final allocation was 34,854 seats so if City ticket site accurately reflects what's left in that allocation, we' may just very slightly outnumber the Villa. City's initial allocation was Maybe.

City's initial allocation was 33,889 so at some point we must have got an extra 1,000 seats.......


Not according to bluemoon today !!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 20, 2020, 08:20:03 PM
Man city website for 2019 (https://www.mancity.com/news/tickets-and-travel/tickets-and-travel/2019/january/man-city-carabao-cup-final-ticket-information-details) = 33,889 (west)

2020 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mancity.com/news/tickets-and-travel/tickets-and-travel/2020/january/man-city-carabao-cup-final-ticket-information) =34,854 (east)

Edit: and I think we did get a few extra tickets from somewhere, our initial initial allocation was 33,095

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 20, 2020, 08:48:15 PM
Have Man City sold out?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 20, 2020, 09:15:40 PM
no !! not yet , struggling to sell club wembley seats i think
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 20, 2020, 09:33:18 PM
My mates a city fan he said there is around 3-4k left for them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on February 20, 2020, 09:53:08 PM
Villa sold out their allocation of 33,666.

City's final allocation was 34,854 seats so if City ticket site accurately reflects what's left in that allocation, we' may just very slightly outnumber the Villa. City's initial allocation was Maybe.

City's initial allocation was 33,889 so at some point we must have got an extra 1,000 seats.......


Not according to bluemoon today !!!!
Is it me or what?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on February 20, 2020, 10:00:08 PM
Well done to those that did. Not sure if there are still drabs trickling through but I refreshed like an irrational loon for the play off final and got them, then got more for others in the following days. Itís not sensible but determination does sometimes pay off. Also there are spares on the day, a sign (and a think skin towards oppo taking the mick) *inside* the tube station as people are getting out has worked for me before too.

Had a lovely moment after a couple of Nile Specials tonight with my Ugandan wife and very dear brother in law meeting little AV for the first time. Back in our hotel room I concluded a nearly 8 month old is the perfect age for just lots of joyful mucking about. The Mrs spontaneously broke into the Samagoal chant weíve sung to the baby a fair bit. I knew abandoning a Man U shirt in Africa as a condition of marriage was perfectly reasonable. Iím confident conversion is complete.

Right. Now to find somewhere to watch the match :/
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 20, 2020, 10:00:09 PM
is it you what ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 20, 2020, 10:11:33 PM
Tickets arrived in the post today.  Therefore my irrational prediction is 3-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on February 20, 2020, 10:21:57 PM
Got one earlier, £125.

Would happily add a zero on the end of the price if it guaranteed a Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ashby Villa on February 21, 2020, 10:44:33 AM
Please delete if not allowed but is there anybody with a 5plus reference that that isn't going and willing to share their reference number and surname? TIA
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 21, 2020, 11:36:19 AM
Please delete if not allowed but is there anybody with a 5plus reference that that isn't going and willing to share their reference number and surname? TIA

Its sold out mate
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa75 on February 21, 2020, 12:27:26 PM
Good news - I've managed to get hold of two tickets! 

Not so good - I'm in the 'neutral' area (club Wembley?)

Have any of you guys been in this area before? If so, an I allowed to wear Villa colours?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 21, 2020, 12:39:12 PM
Good news - I've managed to get hold of two tickets! 

Not so good - I'm in the 'neutral' area (club Wembley?)

Have any of you guys been in this area before? If so, an I allowed to wear Villa colours?
Yes I've been there.  Theoretically no club colours.  If you happen to wear a blue shirt or a claret jumper, then that's fine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 21, 2020, 12:47:07 PM
Villa sold out their allocation of 33,666.

City's final allocation was 34,854 seats so if City ticket site accurately reflects what's left in that allocation, we' may just very slightly outnumber the Villa. City's initial allocation was Maybe.

City's initial allocation was 33,889 so at some point we must have got an extra 1,000 seats.......


Not according to bluemoon today !!!!

This is all about initial club allocation and the allocation available to fans.

Our increase was as a result of not all players, club officials etc taking up their seat options thus more became available to supporters to buy. I suspect the same situation has happened for Man City.

Just because they've struggled to sell theirs doesn't mean they can suddenly hand over another 1000 tickets in the middle of their block to us. The extras aren't seats on the boundary of the two sets of fans...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 21, 2020, 12:48:24 PM
City have confirmed they will cancel tickets for any villa fans that have purchased on their site. The fans should have kept quiet it was only a matter of time until city did something like this.  If you have booked recently live in brum and have no booking history it wont be hard for them to identify you. Wasted their money now.

Only way for them not to know is to purchase off one of these third party sites which you pay more.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 21, 2020, 08:29:10 PM
Go to Google Maps.

Type empty seats.

Hit search.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 21, 2020, 08:39:09 PM
Haha wonderfully childish, I love it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: DB on February 21, 2020, 10:40:53 PM
Brilliant
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa75 on February 21, 2020, 10:53:15 PM
Good news - I've managed to get hold of two tickets! 

Not so good - I'm in the 'neutral' area (club Wembley?)

Have any of you guys been in this area before? If so, an I allowed to wear Villa colours?
Yes I've been there.  Theoretically no club colours.  If you happen to wear a blue shirt or a claret jumper, then that's fine.

Villa socks and boxers it is then!

If, by some miracle, we win, I'll probably be seen running around club Wembley in just those items 😂
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 21, 2020, 11:48:25 PM
Got one earlier, £125.
Would happily add a zero on the end of the price if it guaranteed a Villa win.
Just to make you really happy I will take £1125 off you when Jack lifts the cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The_ads on February 22, 2020, 10:19:29 AM
Got me and the old man two tickets as weíd been to 10 home games but I massive,y panicked that I wouldnít get one so paid silly money for one off stub hub (£180) itís block 123 row 2 so assume itís @ corking view. Also have a feeling it might be Man City end. All it said on website was West End block 123 which I assumed was Villa but upon looking Iím not so sure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on February 22, 2020, 04:55:08 PM
The Spurs game and today have knocked all of my enthusiasm to shreds.

The league is more important. I am so pissed off with our management, coaches and owners.

All they had to do this season was grind out 38-40 points.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 22, 2020, 04:56:24 PM
Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha  performance like that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 22, 2020, 05:12:45 PM
Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha  performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: levico on February 22, 2020, 05:17:47 PM
I was going to post that this is an unwanted distraction but our form is so shocking that it really wonít make any difference. Wouldnt bet against a record defeat in a League Cup final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 22, 2020, 05:19:13 PM
Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha  performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then

Yep. Tbf we cant be much worse.

The good thing i guessis the odds at the bookies will be a lot bigger for us to win so might win some money of we do it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 22, 2020, 05:20:29 PM
Iím glad Iím not going, I doubt Iíll even watch it after that shit show.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 22, 2020, 05:20:51 PM
Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha  performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then

Yep. Tbf we cant be much worse.

The good thing i guessis the odds at the bookies will be a lot bigger for us to win so might win some money of we do it!
THAT'S THE SPIRIT DEMI!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 22, 2020, 05:41:43 PM
Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha  performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then

Yep. Tbf we cant be much worse.

The good thing i guessis the odds at the bookies will be a lot bigger for us to win so might win some money of we do it!
THAT'S THE SPIRIT DEMI!

Hahaha . Im convinced as bad as we we were today that we will then go on to win the cup.

That would be typical villa 😂
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 22, 2020, 05:43:57 PM
Anybody want to buy my tickets?! ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 22, 2020, 05:51:39 PM
Anybody want to buy my tickets?! ;)

😂😂😂😂😂

Ill be keepjng an eye on social media!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on February 22, 2020, 05:54:01 PM
Anybody want to buy my tickets?! ;)

As it's a good seat and a fairly big match, I'll go as high as £35.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 22, 2020, 06:07:15 PM
Anybody want to buy my tickets?! ;)

As it's a good seat and a fairly big match, I'll go as high as £35.

I'll give you £30 to take them off my hands and not a penny more.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on February 22, 2020, 06:09:52 PM
Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha  performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then

Yep. Tbf we cant be much worse.

The good thing i guessis the odds at the bookies will be a lot bigger for us to win so might win some money of we do it!
THAT'S THE SPIRIT DEMI!

Hahaha . Im convinced as bad as we we were today that we will then go on to win the cup.

That would be typical villa 😂
Absolutely no chance unless we hand out a few bribes
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 22, 2020, 06:38:50 PM
"Several have played their way out of the team"

Actually be interested what he does after that comment. I have a feeling Hourihane will start but surely we can't just go in with two CMs. Drinkwater is thankfully cup tied. Surely not a start for Lansbury....

Think we might also be seeing AEM on the right of midfield. Don't think that will be the worst call in the world and he can get some good crosses into the box.

Beyond that call the samaritans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on February 22, 2020, 06:42:14 PM
It could get quite ugly on the pitch and in the stands. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 22, 2020, 06:44:23 PM
"Several have played their way out of the team"

Actually be interested what he does after that comment. I have a feeling Hourihane will start but surely we can't just go in with two CMs. Drinkwater is thankfully cup tied. Surely not a start for Lansbury....

Think we might also be seeing AEM on the right of midfield. Don't think that will be the worst call in the world and he can get some good crosses into the box.

Beyond that call the samaritans.

Hopefully heís mismanaged himself out of a job.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 22, 2020, 06:44:27 PM
Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 22, 2020, 07:16:41 PM
They'd better get a double digit scoreboard ready for next week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nastylee on February 22, 2020, 07:18:54 PM
Really hard to get excited about this, which kind of sums up the feeling at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on February 22, 2020, 07:19:18 PM
Isn't record 6 nil by Bury and Man City? 7 Sunday then?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 22, 2020, 07:19:23 PM
They'd better get a double digit scoreboard ready for next week.

I donít think weíll get that many, even if Otamendi is a bit suspect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 22, 2020, 07:19:55 PM
Another 6-1 hammering if we play as bad as that. Worrying we ard seeing this kind of performance more regularly.

I think smiths stuck and he doeant know what to do or get the best out of them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: frank black on February 22, 2020, 07:21:02 PM
At least I wonít have too long a delay getting out the car park at full time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 22, 2020, 07:22:12 PM
Another 6-1 hammering if we play as bad as that. Worrying we ard seeing this kind of performance more regularly.

I think smiths stuck and he doeant know what to do or get the best out of them.

I want you to say something I violently disagree with, so I can use my niche Russian history joke - ĎFalse, Demitri.í
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 22, 2020, 07:34:39 PM
They'd better get a double digit scoreboard ready for next week.

I hope not. Then if they score again after they've gone nine-nil up, they go back to zero.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on February 22, 2020, 08:10:10 PM
Go to Google Maps.

Type empty seats.

Hit search.



? Doesnít work for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Aldridge Villa on February 22, 2020, 08:32:48 PM
Nor me , getting some place in New Zealand called believe it or not EmptySeats
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 22, 2020, 08:37:37 PM
How to gee up before next week? Me, not the team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on February 22, 2020, 08:41:40 PM
Another 6-1 hammering if we play as bad as that. Worrying we ard seeing this kind of performance more regularly.

I think smiths stuck and he doeant know what to do or get the best out of them.

Optimistic to think we will score next week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 22, 2020, 09:10:35 PM
Fucking hell what a way to go into a cup final. And add to that a manager who has said publicly he couldnít give a fuck. Optimism? Not much at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 22, 2020, 09:22:51 PM
Fucking hell what a way to go into a cup final. And add to that a manager who has said publicly he couldnít give a fuck. Optimism? Not much at all.

Still dont think no returns or peolle yrying to se their tickets?  😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on February 22, 2020, 09:32:34 PM
This will be a massacre. The lazy fucks don't work anywhere near hard enough to contain a side like Man City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 22, 2020, 09:34:59 PM
Fucking hell what a way to go into a cup final. And add to that a manager who has said publicly he couldnít give a fuck. Optimism? Not much at all.

Still dont think no returns or peolle yrying to se their tickets?  😉
Long as you're there Demi giving our lads your undying positivity 😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 22, 2020, 09:37:31 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fk4qYgJ/00133-CE2-255-D-4-A14-891-D-D9-FC70-AF4-DE4.png) (https://ibb.co/fk4qYgJ)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on February 22, 2020, 09:40:49 PM
Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.

What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 22, 2020, 09:43:36 PM
Thereís a high percentage of absolute bellends in our away support.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 22, 2020, 09:48:21 PM
Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.

What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.

Will be the same at Wembley. I'll never forget queueing for beer in the concourse at half time in the Play-Off Final v Fulham.

Villa fans shoving each other in the queues, some calling Bruce fucking useless and calling out players by name. Almost everyone I came across seemed to be half-cut and ready to start something. Shite behaviour. Fear what'll it be like if we're 4 down to Citeh at half time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 22, 2020, 09:51:20 PM
Fucking hell what a way to go into a cup final. And add to that a manager who has said publicly he couldnít give a fuck. Optimism? Not much at all.

Still dont think no returns or peolle yrying to se their tickets?  😉
Long as you're there Demi giving our lads your undying positivity 😉

Ill try my best mate just for you  😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on February 22, 2020, 09:54:28 PM
Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.

What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.

Will be the same at Wembley. I'll never forget queueing for beer in the concourse at half time in the Play-Off Final v Fulham.

2010 was fucking toxic outside between pro O'Neill and against O'Neill.

2015 I was way too smashed to remember.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 22, 2020, 09:57:15 PM
Manchester City must be shitting themselves. With uncontrollable laughter. On the other hand, a few non-Villa fans I have spoken to today genuinely think we will cause a bit of an upset and win against all odds.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 22, 2020, 09:58:13 PM
Itís hard for the majority of us to feel excited about going into the game next weekend after another gutless performance and defeat today...at the moment it feels very much like going into the lions den...lambs to the slaughter. Unfortunately I couldnít get a ticket so I wonít be going down there, so whilst I think we could be on the receiving end of a humiliating result, Iíll also be clinging on to the last glimmer of hope and positivity that itís a game of football and anything can happen. Hope everyone going has a safe journey, an awesome day and roar on the Villa boys regardless of the result...miracles do happen!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 22, 2020, 10:04:48 PM
Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.

What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.

Will be the same at Wembley. I'll never forget queueing for beer in the concourse at half time in the Play-Off Final v Fulham.

2010 was fucking toxic outside between pro O'Neill and against O'Neill.

2015 I was way too smashed to remember.

2015 was when I almost gave up going for good. I've never known so many arsehole fans of my club at one game. Wankers all of them.

Then hearing another had got his head stamped on made me wonder what on earth the point was. That was a dark, dark day for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 22, 2020, 10:06:10 PM
Iím going, not really looking forward to it tbh. This time next week I will hopefully have changed my mind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 22, 2020, 10:17:18 PM
Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.

What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.

Will be the same at Wembley. I'll never forget queueing for beer in the concourse at half time in the Play-Off Final v Fulham.

2010 was fucking toxic outside between pro O'Neill and against O'Neill.

2015 I was way too smashed to remember.

2015 was when I almost gave up going for good. I've never known so many arsehole fans of my club at one game. Wankers all of them.

Then hearing another had got his head stamped on made me wonder what on earth the point was. That was a dark, dark day for me.

Guess the increasingly later kick offs for these major finals means majority are more tanked up and incidents of regret are more frequent as a result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on February 22, 2020, 11:29:51 PM
The 96 final was at 5pm I think there was trouble at the Green Man before the game the following year the kick off was moved back to 3pm.

I always remember at the final seeing two guys sat near us having to carry their friend up to his seat as he couldn't walk up the steps he was that pissed doubt he would have remembered much of the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 22, 2020, 11:53:30 PM
Another 6-1 hammering if we play as bad as that. Worrying we ard seeing this kind of performance more regularly.

I think smiths stuck and he doeant know what to do or get the best out of them.

I want you to say something I violently disagree with, so I can use my niche Russian history joke - ĎFalse, Demitri.í

Dmitry, surely?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2020, 05:59:18 AM
Based on Smiths post match comments And on the performances
Nyland
Elmo Mings Engels Target
Hourihane Lansbury A tragic cone
Trez Samatta Jack

Changed
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2020, 06:26:28 AM
Based on Smiths post match comments And on the performances
Nyland
Elmo Mings Engels Target
Drinky Hourihane Lansbury
AEG Samatta Jack

Iíd be amazed if AEGís horrific injury will see him play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2020, 06:45:38 AM
Based on Smiths post match comments And on the performances
Nyland
Elmo Mings Engels Target
Drinky Hourihane Lansbury
AEG Samatta Jack

Iíd be amazed if AEGís horrific injury will see him play.
I saw him go off, what is it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2020, 06:48:35 AM
Nasty one. Clobbered good and proper, blood all down his face, later airlifted to hospital. #thoughtsandprayers
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2020, 06:50:42 AM
Nasty one. Clobbered good and proper, blood all down his face, later airlifted to hospital. #thoughtsandprayers
I will light a candle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 23, 2020, 07:41:42 AM
You OK hun?
(https://i.ibb.co/Kj0RW8B/57-DF3561-2-A82-4-B77-AF1-A-4-D975-EE01-A24.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kj0RW8B)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 23, 2020, 07:56:11 AM
I think I'm going to fly to Auz next sunday. So I can totally avoid another embarrassing performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The_ads on February 23, 2020, 09:08:44 AM
The 96 final was at 5pm I think there was trouble at the Green Man before the game the following year the kick off was moved back to 3pm.

I always remember at the final seeing two guys sat near us having to carry their friend up to his seat as he couldn't walk up the steps he was that pissed doubt he would have remembered much of the game.


Tbh this is what Iím aiming for
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Aldridge Villa on February 23, 2020, 09:14:45 AM
If City are fortunate enough to take the game to penalties they really will be up against it. Their recent penalty record is shocking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ROBBO on February 23, 2020, 09:23:45 AM
The only thing going for us is jack plays a blinder and puts another twenty million on his price at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on February 23, 2020, 10:08:24 AM
After another horror show yesterday, I'm dreading the game. As usual the day out will be well and truly spoilt by the football
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 23, 2020, 10:28:39 AM
Nasty one. Clobbered good and proper, blood all down his face, later airlifted to hospital. #thoughtsandprayers
I have done some research and LBC (Lightly Brushed Cheek) is in the same category as ACL in terms of recovery.  So yes #thoughtsandprayers :'(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Newby on February 23, 2020, 10:49:29 AM
AEG's official in jury yesterday was a broken eyelash.  Pretty serious stuff.  Likely to keep him out for three seconds, minimum. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 23, 2020, 11:16:33 AM
After another horror show yesterday, I'm dreading the game. As usual the day out will be well and truly spoilt by the football

I'll be watching at a pub somewhere in Lichfield but reserve the right to leave at half time if it's all going tits up !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on February 23, 2020, 11:34:03 AM
Nasty one. Clobbered good and proper, blood all down his face, later airlifted to hospital. #thoughtsandprayers
I have done some research and LBC (Lightly Brushed Cheek) is in the same category as ACL in terms of recovery.  So yes #thoughtsandprayers :'(
Am I right in thinking the injury that has ended Sonís season at Spurs happened after 10 minutes but he finished the game? If only he was a fragile as El Ghazi eh? Weíd at least be one point better off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Big Ming on February 23, 2020, 11:40:57 AM
Is there anything in the rules to prevent us from putting out the Ladies team?

They appear to have rather more fight about them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 23, 2020, 01:05:11 PM
Oh 👀 seen this on social media. 😉 and its not me before anyone accuses me 😁


(https://i.ibb.co/yBnJPjd/20200223-050057.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yBnJPjd)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: tim on February 23, 2020, 01:06:08 PM
For something we're supposed to be excited about, it's a shame that I can't help but feel like it's going to be a right embarrassment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nick harper on February 23, 2020, 01:19:06 PM
Unless Smith can come up with a tactical masterclass like Ron Atkinson in 1994, weíre not going to compete. Certainly playing 433 or 343 wonít work.

No point in playing Grealish up front as he wonít get the ball. Forget width, pack the midfield and stop them running through the middle where theyíre strongest. Free kicks will be the best way for us to get up the pitch.

Other than that, hope City have an off day and we can stay in the game.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ez on February 23, 2020, 01:32:30 PM
I expect it will be like our fa cup final against arsenal. We wont turn up, game over after the first goal, villa fans to outsing the opposition fans all through the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on February 23, 2020, 01:40:50 PM
It's a shame we have been a total shambles since the semi-final.

I am dreading this.  League survival is more important to me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nevillain on February 23, 2020, 01:44:24 PM
I had fleeting thoughts after yesterday about getting rid of my ticket. I messaged my son (whoís working in Denmark) to see if he still wanted to go. His reply was Ďhell yeah, I donít care about the result, just being with you at Wembley following the Villa is enough for meí
What can you say
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 23, 2020, 01:49:43 PM
I expect it will be like our fa cup final against arsenal. We wont turn up, game over after the first goal, villa fans to outsing the opposition fans all through the game.

Thats how i see it going. If he plays 5 at the back and luiz and nakamba at cm its way too negative.

I wonder if mcginn will be on the bench next week? Boy do we need him back bad.

If i was in  hoosing the side id put nakamba luiz and conor in cm.

The big worry fkr me is what the hell we do with rest of midfield. Aeg wss a disgrace yesterfay. Trez was absolutely shocking terrible.

I have no idea what we do. Id be tempted if davis is back play him in the shoulder. If not  give lansbury or jota a run. They have been frozen out and nit had as maany opportunities as those two have.

Its tough because our squad just looks so poor. I think our summer business in midfield has geneally been absymal sadly. Id rather have got benrama than both of aeg and trez
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: amfy on February 23, 2020, 01:51:33 PM
It's a shame we have been a total shambles since the semi-final.

I am dreading this.  League survival is more important to me.

Iíve just had a look back and we were a similar shambles before the semi-final. The previous few games - included Southampton (whoíd looked terrible til that point), Fulham, & Watford that were all in the range of disappointing to shocking. Only the Burnley game in amongst the run up to the semi final looked anything like we had anything ........then we were left without a single striker.

Weíd also already lost heavily to Leicester and didnít expect anything.

.....but somehow we turned up.

.....so you never know.

KTF
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 23, 2020, 02:55:29 PM
Ipswich (home), lost 1-0
Leeds (away), lost 2-0
Oldham (home), lost 2-1
Man U (Wembley), won 3-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 23, 2020, 02:56:11 PM
Ipswich (home), lost 1-0.
Leeds (away), lost 2-0
Oldham (home), lost 2-1
Man U (Wembley), won 3-1

I was thinking that just this morning!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 23, 2020, 03:31:32 PM
You OK hun?
(https://i.ibb.co/Kj0RW8B/57-DF3561-2-A82-4-B77-AF1-A-4-D975-EE01-A24.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kj0RW8B)


Looking at that photo, I can't see A&E recovering in time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on February 23, 2020, 03:36:13 PM
Unless Smith can come up with a tactical masterclass like Ron Atkinson in 1994, weíre not going to compete. Certainly playing 433 or 343 wonít work.

No point in playing Grealish up front as he wonít get the ball. Forget width, pack the midfield and stop them running through the middle where theyíre strongest. Free kicks will be the best way for us to get up the pitch.

Other than that, hope City have an off day and we can stay in the game.

Who is going to be our Graham Fenton this time?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Luffbralion on February 23, 2020, 03:45:03 PM
Unless Smith can come up with a tactical masterclass like Ron Atkinson in 1994, weíre not going to compete. Certainly playing 433 or 343 wonít work.

No point in playing Grealish up front as he wonít get the ball. Forget width, pack the midfield and stop them running through the middle where theyíre strongest. Free kicks will be the best way for us to get up the pitch.

Other than that, hope City have an off day and we can stay in the game.

I'd go 10-0-0 and get everyone to stand on the line for 120 minutes and take it to penalties.

Man City are rubbish from 12 yards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 23, 2020, 03:58:19 PM
Oh 👀 seen this on social media. 😉 and its not me before anyone accuses me 😁


(https://i.ibb.co/yBnJPjd/20200223-050057.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yBnJPjd)


It's not like we're going to be in a cup final every year, those of us lucky enough to have tickets , especially if youngsters are involved, should absolutely go and have a bloody good day out following the club we've followed through thick and thin for years. Just maybe they'll surprise us. Like those heroes did in 1982 and 1994 - we weren't expected to compete then either.

I was gutted yesterday, and still am today about the Southampton game. But come next weekend I'll be full of hope again. That's what it's all about. If you only want to go to a final when we're nailed on to win, you'll be better off jumping on the next Oil-powered bandwagon that rolls through.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 23, 2020, 04:00:27 PM
The kid vassilev seems to have disappeared since we got Baston in. The lad was impressive in cameos against Leicester away and in particular Watford at home. Iíd give him a go as opposed to either el ghazi or trez. Despite his lack of pace and hologramness at times, Iíd stick Hourihane in on the left and finally let jack have a go back in the centre.

Nothing to lose apart from total humiliation.

                       Reina

Konsa.             Engels.           Mings

Guilbert.            Nakamba.       Targett

Vassilev            Grealish.     Hourihane

                           Samatta
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 23, 2020, 04:02:50 PM
Not Reina. It has to be Nyland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on February 23, 2020, 04:08:55 PM
Just cant seem to drum up the enthusiasm for this game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 23, 2020, 04:17:56 PM
Nauseous at the thought of the footballing spectacle that awaits at Wembley...... should never feel that way before a final, but nonetheless this is where we are.

UTV. Good luck to the boys. Que sera sera.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nick harper on February 23, 2020, 04:26:13 PM
I would go:
               Nyland
          Konsa, Engels, Mings
Guilbert, Nakamba, Luiz, Hourihane, Targett
              Grealish
              Samatta

McGinn and Davis on the bench hopefully.
AEG and Trezeguet nowhere near the side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2020, 04:51:25 PM
If he keeps to his word the players that played them selves out of the team should  be Hause  Konsa Guilbert AEG Luiz Nakamba
Bet you they all start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on February 23, 2020, 05:33:13 PM
If we start Marvellous and Luiz - then we are dooooommmed
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: steffo on February 23, 2020, 05:48:19 PM
Horihane..... Seriously?

Hollogram, cant tackle, cant pass forward, no turn of pace,  and we can't expect a free kick 20 metres from their goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 23, 2020, 05:54:31 PM
If we start Marvellous and Luiz - then we are dooooommmed

Who else can we really start? I think Hourihane will be in but he needs to be part of 3 man central midfield otherwise we'll just have the same issues. The next alternative is Lansbury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on February 23, 2020, 05:54:46 PM
Canít see the line up changing much, thatís been one of our major deficiencies, nothing much in reserve to change our fortunes. The only two not playing who could change things are mcginn and davis and they probably wonít be fit enough
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on February 23, 2020, 06:10:30 PM
If he keeps to his word the players that played them selves out of the team should  be Hause  Konsa Guilbert AEG Luiz Nakamba
Bet you they all start.
On his performance yesterday, you could add Reina to that list
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 23, 2020, 06:14:33 PM
If he keeps to his word the players that played them selves out of the team should  be Hause  Konsa Guilbert AEG Luiz Nakamba
Bet you they all start.
On his performance yesterday, you could add Reina to that list

Don't think the keeper is going to be a big factor unless we somehow get to a penalty shoot out.

Nyland played well in his games this season but still conceded six v Man. City and could've saved a couple of them.

They are utterly ruthless if you give them enough shots on goal and that's something we're really poor at compared to most teams. Only so much a keeper can do in those circumstances.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flin5tone on February 23, 2020, 06:15:02 PM
Pepe Reina should not have been signed,he is a pensioner who can barely move.that jog back to the goal after he came up for the corner was a disgrace


Was like watching something from a Pub Team

0-5
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 23, 2020, 06:15:36 PM
I would go:
               Nyland
          Konsa, Engels, Mings
Guilbert, Nakamba, Luiz, Hourihane, Targett
              Grealish
              Samatta

McGinn and Davis on the bench hopefully.
AEG and Trezeguet nowhere near the side.


This is what I would go for too
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 23, 2020, 06:15:49 PM
If he keeps to his word the players that played them selves out of the team should  be Hause  Konsa Guilbert AEG Luiz Nakamba
Bet you they all start.

Realistically it was a stupid thing to say, much as I understood the sentiment. half of the problem is that we haven't got many other viable personnel options. IMO what needs to happen is change the formation and tactics and play them differently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 23, 2020, 06:32:50 PM
My overriding hope is that we turn up to have a go.
Iíd rather lose, even heavily, if we have chased, tackled and battled for every ball rather than lose by just making up the numbers, rather like the villa  park game.

There is no disgrace in losing if everyone of the team has given 100%.

It will be a disgrace if we lose because we were scared before we even started.

And, if everyone gives 100%, you never know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 23, 2020, 07:13:21 PM
Thatís how I see it. We donít want a repeat on that fucking no show against Arsenal in 2015
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 23, 2020, 07:21:31 PM
I think our strongest defence is Guilbert Mings Engels Taylor

Iím not fussed with the back 3/5 thing go with a back 4 and add another in midfield is what I would go with
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 23, 2020, 07:26:34 PM

Confidence of our squad looks shot - it will take one hell of an effort from the manager/coaches and players to bring the cup home .....just can't see it
Ron Atkinson pulled off a masterstroke against Newton Heath back in the day - I don't think Smith is as astute as Big Ron plus our squad at that time was far superior to the present one
Citeh to take the foot off the gas at 3-0 to save a complete humiliation
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on February 23, 2020, 07:36:10 PM
My overriding hope is that we turn up to have a go.
Iíd rather lose, even heavily, if we have chased, tackled and battled for every ball rather than lose by just making up the numbers, rather like the villa  park game.

There is no disgrace in losing if everyone of the team has given 100%.

It will be a disgrace if we lose because we were scared before we even started.

And, if everyone gives 100%, you never know.

Amen brother.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 23, 2020, 09:03:13 PM
I think go the full Bruce and try something like:

Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Elmo Nakamba Jack Luiz Targett
Samatta 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 23, 2020, 09:07:58 PM
I think go the full Bruce and try something like:

Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Elmo Nakamba Jack Luiz Targett
Samatta 

Good call.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 23, 2020, 09:19:08 PM
Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 23, 2020, 09:20:31 PM
Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta

Do we really want to be that gung ho? We'll get slaughtered.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 23, 2020, 09:28:34 PM
Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta

Do we really want to be that gung ho? We'll get slaughtered.

Well we donít know how to defend so ......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 23, 2020, 09:54:43 PM
I think go the full Bruce and try something like:

Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Elmo Nakamba Jack Luiz Targett
Samatta 
No it needs more fullbacks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 23, 2020, 10:04:53 PM
Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta

Do we really want to be that gung ho? We'll get slaughtered.
A bit disappointed that Elmo has not been found a place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 23, 2020, 10:05:25 PM
I think go the full Bruce and try something like:

Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Elmo Nakamba Jack Luiz Targett
Samatta 
No it needs more fullbacks.

I think it needs more goalkeepers
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 23, 2020, 10:06:08 PM
League survival is more important to me.
Winning the Cup is important to me.  If we had won the FA Cup in 2015 and got relegated I would still be jumping joyously.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 23, 2020, 10:10:22 PM
Baring a miracle I canít see anything other than another Wembley defeat, but the scoreline will depend on which Villa turns up...or doesnít. Even if we play like we did against Spurs, we will still receive a battering as we are too open and Man City are clinical finishers (most of the time)...play like we did against Southampton and it could be one of the most embarrassing days in Villa history. DS need to tighten up and learn how to scrape wins or draws...there is no honour in dying on your sword in football, just embarrassment and humiliation. This needs to be done for the league run in and needs to start next weekend otherwise itís going to be a painful day for all involved with and support Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 23, 2020, 10:11:32 PM
Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta

Do we really want to be that gung ho? We'll get slaughtered.
A bit disappointed that Elmo has not been found a place.

He's on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 23, 2020, 10:15:22 PM
What about using Grealish as a possible impact sub if we need to and starting with Elmo in his place in Legion's team?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: remy on February 23, 2020, 10:26:14 PM

Confidence of our squad looks shot - it will take one hell of an effort from the manager/coaches and players to bring the cup home .....just can't see it
Ron Atkinson pulled off a masterstroke against Newton Heath back in the day - I don't think Smith is as astute as Big Ron plus our squad at that time was far superior to the present one
Citeh to take the foot off the gas at 3-0 to save a complete humiliation

Aye only marginally as we were pants in the league. Manure were 10 of 11 full internationals.

I think DS is inept and stumbles across temporary solutions. Big Ron was so canny he knew if we went toe to toe weíd be hammered humiliatingly. So he pulls a left field formation, gees them up for the game of their lives and promises if the play as instructed theyíll win.

Completely caught fergie off guard and whilst they tried to adapt we went 2-0 up. They just went for broke and we countered to get the 3rd and the cup with it. A huge set of balls  shown which is what we need now.

Nyland
Elmo Mings Engels Tagett
Trez Hourihane Nakamba Drinkwater
                   Grealish
                   Samatta

This is based on how fucked off I am since Sunday, Drinkwater only paying 1st half and a change in formation ala 1994.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 23, 2020, 10:38:17 PM
You've all really cheered me up this evening.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 23, 2020, 10:40:53 PM
Drinkwater can't play can he ?

As in ineligible.......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 23, 2020, 10:51:09 PM
Drinkwater can't play can he ?

As in ineligible.......

Correct
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 24, 2020, 12:23:05 AM
Drinkwater can't play can he ?

As in ineligible.......

Yep.

So people demanding Luiz and Nakamba are dropped, the alternatives are Lansbury and Hourihane...not that Drinkwater would've been a great option anyway.

Basically we're f***ed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flin5tone on February 24, 2020, 01:05:59 AM
DS said in his post Match on Saturday that there's a few players that have played their way out of the Team for Sunday's Cup Final

What will we see ,who will get dropped?

Nyland in for Reina I'd imagine ? Drinky can't play and Lansbury is shocking so not many options for midfield ....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Scamps180 on February 24, 2020, 02:00:37 AM
I think I would put Freddy in right side of mifield, he at least puts in strong challenges
                      Pepe
Elmo engels mings hause targett
         Freddy Douglas Connor
                        Jack
                    Samatta
Think engels plays better when mings with him needs constant talking too, same as hause.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 24, 2020, 02:16:49 AM
Very much hope that Iím wrong, but this appears to have train wreck written all over it after this weekend. Even when we upset Utd all those years ago, I always thought we had a chance, as we had a decent side back then. The current lot are terrible, if they manage to keep Grealish quiet, then weíre fkd.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on February 24, 2020, 03:10:27 AM
Mate on Saturday morning ďI know someone with a spare final ticket, do you want it? ď

Me ďbrilliant, yes Iíll definitely take itĒ

Me Saturday afternoon after listening to that performance ďoh buggerĒ
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on February 24, 2020, 06:33:19 AM
AEG I think will be one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on February 24, 2020, 06:36:54 AM
I am looking forward to a good day out, but I think that from 4.30 pm it may start to go downhill quite quickly

I just hope that we show more desire and effort than we did against Arsenal in the FA Cup final, otherwise it could be a far worse defeat.

However hoping, that City just think that they only have to show up to beat us, and unexpected results in finals do happen!

Come on Villa - don't let us down, this is costing me and every other Villa fan who is going a lot of money! 

And IF we do lose, I don't want to read of any our players going on the lash in London after the final with any of the City players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 24, 2020, 07:04:35 AM
He wonít do anything, same system same players same result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on February 24, 2020, 07:12:50 AM
I think DS may have been referring to El Ghazi. He showed a lack of desire on Saturday. Unless he was concussed which i very much doubt. He blatantly ignored Mings & Grealish when they both tried to get him off the pitch so we could take the corner which i found very strange. Of course i'm just guessing but there seems to be some bad blood there. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 24, 2020, 07:38:33 AM
I thought that was a bit shit too. Injured or not, he only had to roll a foot to the right to allow play on. Maybe he didnít want exposed with a player short in case the broke away quick after the corner. But it was odd-looking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 24, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
To have any chance of springing a surprise, we have to take a risk by changing the formation and line up. Just like Big Ron did in 94, as others have mentioned.

More of the same will just leave us wide open in midfield and weíll get comfortably beaten, so Iíd go with a 4141, reverting to 451 when necessary. I would drop those who are either woefully out of form / just not good enough / ďplayed themselves out of the teamĒ - AEG, Trez, Hause and Nakamba. Bring in Connor for his threat from set pieces and long range shooting. Bring in some more defensively minded players as if we try to play City at their own game, they will destroy us.

Then, pray that Wednesdayís huge game in Madrid takes it out of City, mentally and physically.

Pray that Jack has the game of his life.

Just generally pray.

(I know, Iím clutching at straws).

Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Hourihane
Elmo Luiz Jack Targett
Samatta
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 24, 2020, 09:03:21 AM
Playing that team they may as well enter the pitch carrying a massive white flag. We have to attack, we aren't good enough to play defensively, but we are capable of scoring. Play with six defenders and it'll be an Arsenal-style abject surrender.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on February 24, 2020, 09:09:01 AM
Watford have  never recovered from their 6-0 mauling by City in the Cup Final last May - if they put us to the sword like that neither will we. Only a win will do here to galvanize a late charge to avoid the drop.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 24, 2020, 09:19:59 AM
Playing that team they may as well enter the pitch carrying a massive white flag. We have to attack, we aren't good enough to play defensively, but we are capable of scoring. Play with six defenders and it'll be an Arsenal-style abject surrender.

Maybe, but Elmo and Targett can be decent going forward so I wasnít suggesting playing to defend but being more able to defend when needed.

I suppose thatís why Dean is a PL manager whereas I manage an Under 11s team who play 9-a-side with unlimited substitutions allowed which helps if I do get my selections wrong!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 24, 2020, 09:30:22 AM
If we could take them to pens - somehow we have a chance as city have been reallg woeful penalty record.

Do they do ET for sure in a final? Not straight to pens?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 09:45:00 AM
Drinkwater can't play can he ?

As in ineligible.......

So play him. Realise after 30 seconds that we've fucked up and concede?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 09:55:29 AM
                Nyland

Elmo Engels Mings Taylor

             Nakamba

Vassilev Grealish Hourihane Targett

              Samatta

Subs: Reina, Guilbert, Konsa, Hause, Luiz, Baston, Trez.

If McGinn is fit enough to be on the bench, he should start. He won't be.

I'd toy with putting Guilbert and Elmo in, but I worry if we go too defensively they'll hammer us, which is what happened before.

City are bloody great but we can score goals too.

I wanted Reina in, but given our league form, I'd bring Nyland in and show faith. He's done well in the competition and maybe he's the talisman.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 24, 2020, 10:15:00 AM
                Nyland

Elmo Engels Mings Taylor

             Nakamba

Vassilev Grealish Hourihane Targett

              Samatta

Subs: Reina, Guilbert, Konsa, Hause, Luiz, Baston, Trez.

If McGinn is fit enough to be on the bench, he should start. He won't be.

I'd toy with putting Guilbert and Elmo in, but I worry if we go too defensively they'll hammer us, which is what happened before.

City are bloody great but we can score goals too.

I wanted Reina in, but given our league form, I'd bring Nyland in and show faith. He's done well in the competition and maybe he's the talisman.

Vassilev is your Graham Fenton wild card I assume Drummond !?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 10:56:14 AM
Yep!

He's got pace, which will help Elmo, and he can finish too so can press up front. I reckon there's a bit of a pass and shot in that team and we're better when we try and attack.


On another note, Man City have to focus on two games this week, we've got this one only. Hopefully that will allow us time to prepare.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 24, 2020, 11:08:10 AM
Buzzing for the day but not the game, let's be honest it will be a great day out ruined by the football. We're going to get humiliated and embarrassed. Simply don't see any way in which we win the game; tactically so naive, defence is a shambles and we concede 2+ in virtually every game away from home and we're not going to score 3+.

1-5 defeat
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on February 24, 2020, 11:14:07 AM
I'll be surprised if we keep it below 5. Probably end up with a toxic atmosphere in amongst our end. Smith calling the players out, snippets coming out during the week after about how disilusioned the players are etc.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lsvilla on February 24, 2020, 11:18:29 AM
Drinkwater can't play can he ?

As in ineligible.......

So play him. Realise after 30 seconds that we've fucked up and concede?
They are then awarded the game with a 3-0 score line - may be better than actually fulfilling the fixture.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 24, 2020, 11:20:03 AM
I'll be surprised if we keep it below 5. Probably end up with a toxic atmosphere in amongst our end. Smith calling the players out, snippets coming out during the week after about how disilusioned the players are etc.
Agree about the atmosphere in our end. As Ads said there was a fair bit of trouble at Southampton in the ground and by the coach park after the game, all amongst our own fans. You can already see the cameras catching our fans fighting each other in the stands for the whole country to see on Sunday. Didn't it happen before at Wembley, the Arsenal final maybe? Seem to recall pictures and videos of our fans fighting each other.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 24, 2020, 11:22:13 AM
Wahay! We've got 1 goal to look forward to being scored according to a previous poster's prediction . Bet it goes to var and gets disallowed. Boo!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 24, 2020, 11:38:58 AM
                Nyland

Elmo Engels Mings Taylor

             Nakamba

Vassilev Grealish Hourihane Targett

              Samatta

Subs: Reina, Guilbert, Konsa, Hause, Luiz, Baston, Trez.

If McGinn is fit enough to be on the bench, he should start. He won't be.

I'd toy with putting Guilbert and Elmo in, but I worry if we go too defensively they'll hammer us, which is what happened before.

City are bloody great but we can score goals too.

I wanted Reina in, but given our league form, I'd bring Nyland in and show faith. He's done well in the competition and maybe he's the talisman.
along with El Ghazi, I think maybe Reina is one other who may have played his way out of the Wembley 11, if he was ever in it. Iíd give Nyland the nod in goal. Not sure what else we can do. Maybe Vassilev and if we really want to go left field Louie Barry. Iíd probably have Guilbert over Elmo. Just wish McGinn was fit for this. Midfield looks piss weak
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on February 24, 2020, 11:48:36 AM
I want to be hopeful. I want to believe that in a one off game anything can happen. In Jack Grealish we have a player capable of causing all the top domestic teams trouble. I want to think that the recent poor performances have been due to players saving themselves for the cup final and that afterwards the league performances will pick up.

But the reality is:

* Villa donít keep clean sheets
* The number of high scoring opportunities we give to all opposition is one of the highest -if not the highest-in the Premier league and I think in all top European leagues. And it hasnít reduced since the start of the season despite the change in shape with more defenders.
* Villaís form has been poor.
* Apart from the Leicester semi final Villa donít beat the top teams.
* Villaís plan is to give Jack Grealish the ball and hope he does something. There is no plan B.
* Villa still havenít cut out giving away stupid mistakes 7 months on from the first game of the season last August.

DS may also have backed himself into a corner by saying some players have played their way out of the cup final with the performance at Soton. Where does he go from there if Villa donít win or if there are not wholesale changes made.

Itís horrible to be this negative going into a cup final which is something we all want to be in. Iím hoping a load of people will point out all the reasons Iím wrong and make me change my mind to be hopeful for Sunday and beyond.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 24, 2020, 11:53:21 AM
Just tweak the current system and play 3 5 1 1 not as someone else alluded to this 2 wide forward shit which leaves us so open in the middle.

Nyland - as he's the cup keeper and deserves it after Leicester

Konza
Engels
Mings

Fred or Elmo
Marv
Doug
Conor
Targett

Jack

Samatta

Subs: Reina Elmo or Fred Trez Barry Davis Vassilev Hause


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 24, 2020, 11:59:10 AM
If we could take them to pens - somehow we have a chance as city have been reallg woeful penalty record.

Do they do ET for sure in a final? Not straight to pens?

They are good at pens when it matters, beat Chelsea in last year's final on penalties.

Would be interesting if we'd bring Reina on with a minute left if it was going to a shoot out, I'd imagine so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 12:00:49 PM
I want to be hopeful. I want to believe that in a one off game anything can happen. In Jack Grealish we have a player capable of causing all the top domestic teams trouble. I want to think that the recent poor performances have been due to players saving themselves for the cup final and that afterwards the league performances will pick up.

But the reality is:

* Villa donít keep clean sheets
* The number of high scoring opportunities we give to all opposition is one of the highest -if not the highest-in the Premier league and I think in all top European leagues. And it hasnít reduced since the start of the season despite the change in shape with more defenders.
* Villaís form has been poor.
* Apart from the Leicester semi final Villa donít beat the top teams.
* Villaís plan is to give Jack Grealish the ball and hope he does something. There is no plan B.
* Villa still havenít cut out giving away stupid mistakes 7 months on from the first game of the season last August.

DS may also have backed himself into a corner by saying some players have played their way out of the cup final with the performance at Soton. Where does he go from there if Villa donít win or if there are not wholesale changes made.

Itís horrible to be this negative going into a cup final which is something we all want to be in. Iím hoping a load of people will point out all the reasons Iím wrong and make me change my mind to be hopeful for Sunday and beyond.

*Villa score goals and the game is about scoring more than the opposition.
*We have Nyland who has a great shot-stopping ratio in this competition and was Man of the Match in the Semi. Leicester out-shot us by more than 3:1.
*Yet we are in the Final for a reason. We have beaten Crewe, Brighton, Wolves, Liverpool and Leicester (the latter two were both above Man City at the time of our victories)
*We beat Liverpool. Their only defeat until last week.
*That's not the plan. But he's a great player who can cause lots of damage, to pretty much any team. He has a great knack of scoring good goals and assisting others. And, barring a disaster, he'll be lining up on Sunday as our Captain.
*Mistakes happen. Every team make them. Who's to say, being roared on by our passionate supporters in a Wembley final (that could be their last) that our players won't step up.

Smith will make changes. Nyland will come in. AEG will be out and when he comes on as a sub later, he'll have a point to prove. Like he did at Wembley when he last played there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 12:02:53 PM
If we could take them to pens - somehow we have a chance as city have been reallg woeful penalty record.

Do they do ET for sure in a final? Not straight to pens?

They are good at pens when it matters, beat Chelsea in last year's final on penalties.

Would be interesting if we'd bring Reina on with a minute left if it was going to a shoot out, I'd imagine so.

I wouldn't.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on February 24, 2020, 12:03:53 PM
2-4 to Man.City
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 24, 2020, 12:07:09 PM
We beat Liverpool under 23s, not Liverpool. You know and I know that a full strength Liverpool would probably have beat us. I know anything can happen and I am hoping that in a one off game it does, Man City are below par, and we play as we never have and win the bloody thing. In all honestly I dont think we will win. I will go and sing and hopefully have a great day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 24, 2020, 12:07:44 PM
I'd go with;

Reina

Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert

Hourihane
Nakamba
Luiz

Grealish

Davis
Samatta

I'd change the system as I think Hause and Konsa have been poor and error ridden for too long. Engels and Mings are our best centre halves.

I'd have Daivs as the ball will stick. A long ball is still an out ball and I'd back him physically against their defenders.

I'd have Nakamba and Hourihane very disciplined as a defensive two to try and choke space. Onus on Hourihane to find a pass. Luiz has a decent turn of pace. Jack can play where he likes.


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 24, 2020, 12:10:16 PM
Davis is, unsurprisingly, injured.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 24, 2020, 12:11:08 PM
Back in training today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 12:13:33 PM
Back in training today.

If he's fit I'd put him in too. The ball sticks to him and would give us some respite. With Samatta they could cause a stir.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 12:14:43 PM
We beat Liverpool under 23s, not Liverpool. You know and I know that a full strength Liverpool would probably have beat us. I know anything can happen and I am hoping that in a one off game it does, Man City are below par, and we play as we never have and win the bloody thing. In all honestly I dont think we will win. I will go and sing and hopefully have a great day.

We beat the team put out in front of us. We were beating them in the league until the final minutes when they snuck the win.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on February 24, 2020, 12:15:56 PM
If football always ran to form no one would watch it - anything can happen on the day.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 24, 2020, 12:18:56 PM
Davis and SamattaÖ..yes please.
This should be easy to accommodate by dropping AEG (although I appreciate how difficult that is given his superhero, manly, world saving, win at all cost, over my dead body heroics at the weekend)   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 24, 2020, 12:26:24 PM
Of course we have a chance, the history of the game is littered with teams winning games against much better sides. I do have to say though that trying to pass off beating the youngest side Liverpool have ever fielded as any kind of achievement is pushing it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 24, 2020, 12:33:12 PM
99 times out of 100 we get beat on Sunday, regardless of how well or not we play. I have no confidence we'll get anything but beat, but there still remains a very remote possibility that something inexplicable happens and we win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 12:33:33 PM
Of course we have a chance, the history of the game is littered with teams winning games against much better sides. I do have to say though that trying to pass off beating the youngest side Liverpool have ever fielded as any kind of achievement is pushing it.

Well, yes, I know that but I'm clinging on to the hope that the records will show that we beat them and that we gave them a great game in the League too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 24, 2020, 12:34:53 PM
Reality is, if Man City are on it, we're fucked, If they are really on it and we don't turn up it could be humiliating. But if we turn up and they have an off day, and they are prone to them this season, then it's very much game on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 24, 2020, 12:36:47 PM
I'd go with;

Reina

Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert

Hourihane
Nakamba
Luiz

Grealish

Davis
Samatta

I'd change the system as I think Hause and Konsa have been poor and error ridden for too long. Engels and Mings are our best centre halves.

I'd have Daivs as the ball will stick. A long ball is still an out ball and I'd back him physically against their defenders.

I'd have Nakamba and Hourihane very disciplined as a defensive two to try and choke space. Onus on Hourihane to find a pass. Luiz has a decent turn of pace. Jack can play where he likes.




We need to talk about that midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 24, 2020, 12:45:30 PM
If we could take them to pens - somehow we have a chance as city have been reallg woeful penalty record.

Do they do ET for sure in a final? Not straight to pens?

They are good at pens when it matters, beat Chelsea in last year's final on penalties.

Would be interesting if we'd bring Reina on with a minute left if it was going to a shoot out, I'd imagine so.

I wouldn't.



Well Reina has already saved a penalty for us, saved one for Milan in his only game for them in October and was part of many winning penalty shoot outs for Liverpool so assume he saved some in those games.

Can't remember if Nyland saved any penalties in the championship, possibly one?

I don't for one second think we'll be at a point where we'll need to make that decision though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 24, 2020, 12:48:04 PM
I'd go with;

Reina

Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert

Hourihane
Nakamba
Luiz

Grealish

Davis
Samatta

I'd change the system as I think Hause and Konsa have been poor and error ridden for too long. Engels and Mings are our best centre halves.

I'd have Daivs as the ball will stick. A long ball is still an out ball and I'd back him physically against their defenders.

I'd have Nakamba and Hourihane very disciplined as a defensive two to try and choke space. Onus on Hourihane to find a pass. Luiz has a decent turn of pace. Jack can play where he likes.




We need to talk about that midfield.


The alternative is Henri Lansbury.

If Hourihane starts as I suspect we need to show some ambition and actually win him some corners to take. No corners in the FA cup final suggests it's not a given if we're camping on the edge of our penalty area.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 24, 2020, 12:54:29 PM
Just hope Madrid kick lumps out of them and they lose the game so really need a big effort on the return leg the following week

Other than that I do not think I have ever been to Wembley with such a negative feeling - which is really sad
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: mallo on February 24, 2020, 01:03:46 PM
Whilst I'm not writing us off, I am preparing myself for a loss. I just hope we turn up and give them a game. About 100 times what 'turned up' against Southampton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on February 24, 2020, 01:08:30 PM
I didn't qualify for a ticket until tonight at 5, and I was kind of relieved to see it's sold out.   I would have tried to get a ticket more out of habit than anything but I'm not sure I want to spend a small fortune and a whole day to witness it, so resigned am I to it most likely being a proper humping.  Not even sure I'll want to watch it on TV.  Sad to feel like that, but I do.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on February 24, 2020, 01:18:56 PM
Just hope Madrid kick lumps out of them and they lose the game so really need a big effort on the return leg the following week

Other than that I do not think I have ever been to Wembley with such a negative feeling - which is really sad
Iíve been very lucky to have gone to all our Wembley appearances since spurs in 1970 and I too have never felt so pessimistic. Can only hope City fail to take us seriously. First time I donít feel nervous though, wish I did.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 24, 2020, 01:19:02 PM
The odds are stacked against us...hugely, massively.
The team has a regular tendency to 'not turn up'.

But, despite all the doommongery, its a cup final for fecks sake.
Virtually every club in the country would want to be there on Sunday and it might be a long time before we are in another one.

I have put the misery of the weekend behind me (for now).

Lets just fecking enjoy being cup finalists for a few days.

   
 
       
 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 24, 2020, 01:25:53 PM
I don't know. The inevitability of the defeat makes it a bit of a chore and totally overshadows the usual enjoyment of being at Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on February 24, 2020, 01:28:29 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing Villa at Wembley again in a cup final I just hope and pray we perform a miracle and bring the cup home I know we are massive underdogs but I still believe we can do it I'm praying to every god out there to get us a win at Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brassneck on February 24, 2020, 01:35:52 PM
Iím not looking forward to it.

Weather is likely to be sh%t, football likely to be sh%t and pub likely to be sh%t.

I was going to stay at home but I was persuaded to go.  Hopefully Iíll be a bit more positive come Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on February 24, 2020, 02:49:00 PM
Just a question - are we bigger underdogs than we were against Spurs in 1970? 

Lets enjoy it, who knows we may never get to another final?

When I am walking up towards Wembley on Sunday I will be so excited and looking forward to us see us win (even at my age)

If this was the other way round and we were massive favourites, we would all still think that we would lose

We are ASTON VILLA - Lets get behind the team (I am just off to church to pray for the miracle)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 24, 2020, 02:51:50 PM
Just a question - are we bigger underdogs than we were against Spurs in 1970?

Lets enjoy it, who knows we may never get to another final?
I think we are, we go into the game lacking structure, confidence and ability
I would not be surprised if the players put in a performance though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 24, 2020, 03:15:21 PM
Narrow defeat. Canít honestly see us beating them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Fred Crump on February 24, 2020, 03:36:27 PM
Narrow defeat. Canít honestly see us beating them.
By narrow, do you mean less than a score which gets spelt out in letters as well as the number on the tv results e.g Man City 7 ( seven) ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 24, 2020, 03:37:27 PM
A new cup record loss if we play like we did at the weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 24, 2020, 04:03:34 PM
Saturday was incredibly disappointing and we do have to get our League form sorted out and sharpish.......

BUT.....what the fuck is wrong with all of you....

Itís Wembley, itís a Cup Final, weíre there, 90 other clubs arenít. This is what being a fan is all about, this is why I went to Crewe and Brighton away and went mad in a bar in Cape Verde watching the Leicester home leg. Itís why I go to Football, the trophies. I realise there are hollow laughs at that comment but nothing is easy in Football, youíll invariably be let down more than youíre pissed up singing Sweet Caroline, youíll be swearing and hating your own club more than any other.

There was a discussion on here a few weeks back about the prospect of Jack Grealish leaving the club and a fatalism narrative that far too many of our support have bought into admittedly as a result of bitter experience. Well we need to stop going down that rabbit hole for this Final as well. Itís about time we all got a grip, got down to Wembley and got behind our team even if we get stuffed. There are people in our history , Saunders and Taylor to name but two , who would have looked at being an underdog and unfancied as a team and would have relished the opportunity to have a crack. Whereís that spirit now?

Letís also not forget this little stat:

Aston Villa - 20 Major trophies
Manchester City - 19 Major trophies

Anyone want to see them draw level? Thought not....

We may not be a super club by the modern definition with the GDP of a small failed state but fuck me weíre still Aston Villa, weíre still relevant and weíve got a chance to show what this club is about. Wembley may be a corporate shithole of the highest order but youíre going down to represent a true giant of the English game no matter how tarnished that reputation has become, no matter how much piss taking we get from others. Letís stop talking ourselves into an defeat, yeah we may get dicked but Iíd rather go down supporting my team with a positive attitude than throwing my toys out the pram because we didnít play 4-5-1 or Dean didnít make the right subs. Our support does make a difference, letís see if it can help on Sunday.

Weíre Aston Villa, whether born to it or whether you chose it, donít ever fucking forget it.

Up the Fucking Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 24, 2020, 04:05:29 PM
No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that.  Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 24, 2020, 04:08:52 PM
No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that.  Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.

Iím the same about some of the constant doom laden stuff as well. Like you Iíll enjoy the day no matter whether we win lose or draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 24, 2020, 04:12:43 PM
Hating positive posts about a cup final seems a tad bizarre. We all realistically know that we're massive underdogs but hating that someone is positive is weird.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on February 24, 2020, 04:17:18 PM
No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that.  Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.

There's a difference between going there in hope rather than expectation, and some of the stuff that is again all over this thread.   I've read people saying they wish weren't going, that it is going to be an embarrassment and that come the end of the match we will all be fighting amongst ourselves!  This is the week of a cup final, one taking place about 20 months after we were worried about not having a club at all much less be one game away from competing in Europe again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: frank black on February 24, 2020, 04:22:52 PM
Just looking for us to replicate the effort and display we gave when playing Liverpool in the cup semi final please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on February 24, 2020, 04:36:35 PM
If all of the City first teamers pick up injuries in The Champions league this week I would be very positive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 24, 2020, 04:44:22 PM
If all of the City first teamers pick up injuries in The Champions league this week I would be very positive.


errr  still no , they have a squad
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on February 24, 2020, 04:47:04 PM
I know all this positivity is infectious
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaBoy_23 on February 24, 2020, 04:50:10 PM
I was the most positive person on earth about the final until I went to Southampton on Saturday. The Ďperformanceí was a disgrace and has left a real bad taste in my mouth.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 24, 2020, 04:50:16 PM
Hating positive posts about a cup final seems a tad bizarre. We all realistically know that we're massive underdogs but hating that someone is positive is weird.

That isn't what I said though.  Positivity is good, but chest-beating posts like that I don't like. Each to their own.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 24, 2020, 04:56:26 PM
The only thing I'm clinging to is that we were shite in the run up to the 1994 Final. While it is far from ideal, as we are in a relegation fight for our lives, we wouldn't be the first or last team to be distracted by an impending cup final, and produce a much better standard than expected in the final itself.

I'm choosing to ignore the fact that we were shit in the run up to the 2015 FA Cup Final as that doesn't suit my argument.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 24, 2020, 05:03:07 PM
The only thing I'm clinging to is that we were shite in the run up to the 1994 Final. While it is far from ideal, as we are in a relegation fight for our lives, we wouldn't be the first or last team to be distracted by an impending cup final, and produce a much better standard than expected in the final itself.

I'm choosing to ignore the fact that we were shit in the run up to the 2015 FA Cup Final as that doesn't suit my argument.

We were shite for the rest of the season in 94.  Probably best we don't look for comparisons!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 24, 2020, 05:10:10 PM
No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that.  Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.

Get over yourself.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 24, 2020, 05:17:34 PM
We beat Liverpool under 23s, not Liverpool. You know and I know that a full strength Liverpool would probably have beat us. I know anything can happen and I am hoping that in a one off game it does, Man City are below par, and we play as we never have and win the bloody thing. In all honestly I dont think we will win. I will go and sing and hopefully have a great day.

We beat the team put out in front of us. We were beating them in the league until the final minutes when they snuck the win.

So err Liverpool won? Look I want Villa to win, if i could make Villa win by only thinking positive thoughts, then I would, but I canít make Villa win by my thoughts, nor can I bend spoons, nor can I predict the lottery tickets or talk to my nans dead budgie, nor to my dead nan. What I can do is go and support them. Do I think they will win, no unfortunately, do I hope Iím wrong, bloody hell YES
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 24, 2020, 05:39:44 PM
Entirely different circumstances granted, but Iím pretty sure we were the overwhelming underdogs against Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on February 24, 2020, 06:01:32 PM
Of course we're probably going to lose but it's my first ever trip to Wembley so I am going to make sure I have a fun day regardless. UT effing V.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 24, 2020, 06:08:29 PM
Get those prayer mats out Aston Villa fans
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on February 24, 2020, 06:23:37 PM
Entirely different circumstances granted, but Iím pretty sure we were the overwhelming underdogs against Bayern Munich.
Bayern were favourites but donít recall it being anything like this weekendís situation
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 24, 2020, 06:31:22 PM
If it gives anyone hope, Wigan were in poor form heading into their FA Cup final win against Man City.

The two games prior were a 3-2 loss at home to Swansea, and a 4-1 battering away at Arsenal.

Wigan were 9/1 to win in 90 minutes, whilst we're 10/1 to win the cup overall (only comparison I could find)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 24, 2020, 06:32:13 PM
They also got relegated.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 24, 2020, 06:51:43 PM
They also got relegated.

Of course.

If we're going to go down (and we might do), I'd rather we go down with the cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on February 24, 2020, 07:05:42 PM
I don't understand going into a final utterly resigned to defeat despite the fact that it is highly likely.
Football fans live on the oxygen of hope,  otherwise why support anyone other than those nailed onto to win things? Because it is more than that, it is your town or City, your friends, your memories, your heroes, your family. That's why we're all spending money, time and our precious patience on a Sunday afternoon in February. We might be on a hiding to nothing but while there is hope there is reason to be, for any football fan.

I hope we win, we probably won't but I'll love Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 24, 2020, 07:21:55 PM
I don't understand going into a final utterly resigned to defeat despite the fact that it is highly likely.
Football fans live on the oxygen of hope,  otherwise why support anyone other than those nailed onto to win things? Because it is more than that, it is your town or City, your friends, your memories, your heroes, your family. That's why we're all spending money, time and our precious patience on a Sunday afternoon in February. We might be on a hiding to nothing but while there is hope there is reason to be, for any football fan.

I hope we win, we probably won't but I'll love Sunday.

Well said, Nev!

I'm seeing Sunday as a wonderful chance for a day out with friends and family, surrounded by the Claret and Blue colours I love.

Nice brucie bonus is getting to see Jack lead the team out in a major final.

I'll enjoy the game being nowhere near as stressful as the two play-off finals!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 24, 2020, 07:31:25 PM
I'll repeat what I wrote yesterday - the day I can't get childishly excited over the Villa playing in a proper cup final is the day I find a new hobby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on February 24, 2020, 07:32:49 PM
If it gives anyone hope, Wigan were in poor form heading into their FA Cup final win against Man City.

The two games prior were a 3-2 loss at home to Swansea, and a 4-1 battering away at Arsenal.

Wigan were 9/1 to win in 90 minutes, whilst we're 10/1 to win the cup overall (only comparison I could find)
Villa are 20/1 on Betfair to win in 90 minutes
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 24, 2020, 07:38:41 PM
Maybe as the week goes on I'll feel excited, but not at the moment. I just cannot see how we win when we defend as poorly as we are, so loose in midfield and so prone to gifts from poor individual errors.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 24, 2020, 07:55:55 PM
Nev, Iíve been feeling really fed up the last couple of days, resigning myself to relegation. Thinking why am I spending literally hundreds on sundays cup final, when weíre likely to get hammered.

But I bloody love your post, absolutely 100% spot on. Itís the hope that kills, but whatís the bloody point if you havenít got it.

Feck it we lose we lose, but you never know and some of those players owe a big peformance
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 24, 2020, 08:12:10 PM
Maybe as the week goes on I'll feel excited, but not at the moment. I just cannot see how we win when we defend as poorly as we are, so loose in midfield and so prone to gifts from poor individual errors.

As things stand Iím struggling to muster any enthusiasm, Iíve been really positive all season, but Saturday killed me. But....come Thursday/Friday I just knows the nerves and excitement and Iíll be convincing myself we can somehow do it, no logic or reasoning.

After Saturday I miserably said to my near 10 year old Ďwhat do you think about the cup finalí he looked like I was mad, and just said it canít waití!! Although just a kid heís been going down since relegation season, so has seen some shite as well as the 10 game run. Iím taking a leaf out of his book, we lose heavily itís just what we expected.....but you never know
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 24, 2020, 09:03:52 PM
Drinkwater can't play can he ?
On the evidence so far yes he can't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 24, 2020, 09:06:55 PM
A new cup record loss if we play like we did at the weekend.
You are making a big assumption that City are better than Southampton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on February 24, 2020, 09:26:19 PM
Donít know if this has been captured elsewhere but with the current penalty placed on Man City by UEFA will that mean that we automatically get the Europa league place even if we lose Sunday?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 24, 2020, 09:29:11 PM
NO. Place goes to League position.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 09:48:22 PM
Hating positive posts about a cup final seems a tad bizarre. We all realistically know that we're massive underdogs but hating that someone is positive is weird.

That isn't what I said though.  Positivity is good, but chest-beating posts like that I don't like. Each to their own.

The same could be said of the ultimate pessimist posts spouting endless misery, that everything is shit, we're already down, have already lost, and that the world will end. At least the positive ones are trying to give some hope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 24, 2020, 09:49:41 PM
Even if we lose, we'll go straight into the last 8 of next season's Champions Lesgue, with a home tie for the 2nd leg.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 24, 2020, 09:50:07 PM
I'm positive we are going to lose on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 24, 2020, 09:55:32 PM
I'm positive we are going to lose on Sunday.

I think everyone is. Odds range from 14-1to 22-1 on a Villa win.

I've not looked on specific scores etc but some of those odds will be nuts.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 24, 2020, 09:56:43 PM
Those odds are on us to win in ninety minutes. We are only around 10/1 to lift the trophy. Not that I'll be rushing out to put my life savings on it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 24, 2020, 10:13:25 PM
No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that.  Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.

Iím the same about some of the constant doom laden stuff as well. Like you Iíll enjoy the day no matter whether we win lose or draw.

There's no doubt our fans will be in great voice pre match  and as soon as the game kicks offs. Will likely be louder than Man. City who after their own long trophy drought are probably seeing this as just another game to win a trophy and even an inconvience with Real Madrid this week.

Trouble for me....will the team go out believing they can at least compete if not win? Bar a maturing Grealish the 2015 team had much more top level experience and quality in the 11 we put out compared to Sunday and the way we played was an incredible disappointment.

All the singing in the world won't matter if we go out and can't even do the basics like the league game in January e.g. tackling, marking and closing down.

Edit: I'd be more confident if we'd actually picked up a decent number of results against good teams over the season.

It's really slim pickings this season. Even in 2014-15 we won at Anfield and also at Spurs and drew 1-1 with Man. United with 10 men so showed we could raise our game and dig in to get results although we chose not to do any of that v Arsenal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeonW on February 24, 2020, 10:31:36 PM
NO. Place goes to League position.
O
Typical (Thanks). Sure if weíd have been close in the league it would have been given to cup finalists instead (I realise it will have been decided before the start of the season but 2003/2004 still rankles).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 25, 2020, 07:00:26 AM
No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that.  Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.

Iím the same about some of the constant doom laden stuff as well. Like you Iíll enjoy the day no matter whether we win lose or draw.

There's no doubt our fans will be in great voice pre match  and as soon as the game kicks offs. Will likely be louder than Man. City who after their own long trophy drought are probably seeing this as just another game to win a trophy and even an inconvience with Real Madrid this week.

Trouble for me....will the team go out believing they can at least compete if not win? Bar a maturing Grealish the 2015 team had much more top level experience and quality in the 11 we put out compared to Sunday and the way we played was an incredible disappointment.

All the singing in the world won't matter if we go out and can't even do the basics like the league game in January e.g. tackling, marking and closing down.

Edit: I'd be more confident if we'd actually picked up a decent number of results against good teams over the season.

It's really slim pickings this season. Even in 2014-15 we won at Anfield and also at Spurs and drew 1-1 with Man. United with 10 men so showed we could raise our game and dig in to get results although we chose not to do any of that v Arsenal.

Iím going to contradict myself here, as Iíve said in various different threads throughout the season that it wasnít just jack that got us promoted last season (to OTT criticism of dean smith).

However, in those seasons you mention, without Bentekeís goals we go down imo. My point being despite there being more experience in those sides they werenít very good and weíre over reliant on one player doing something special to get them over the line, a bit like Jack this season granted.

If weíre to stay up this season we will also probably have to grind out a couple of results against better teams, either Chelsea, Man U or Arsenal.

As for Sunday, Iíve still got my weíre going to get thrashed head on, that will slowly start turning into blind hope and optimism in the next few days
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 25, 2020, 07:50:21 AM
Canít beat a bit of blind hope and optimism! Thatís what I usually have, but itís largely been knocked out of me this season, so far. I guess you never know. They could be flat after potentially losing to RM, we might just suddenly sniff a chance. Ref could have a mare. Who knows? Feels like straw clutching a bit though. I just hope everyone going has a top day out, as usual.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 25, 2020, 07:59:43 AM
Anything can happen in cup football, when the pressures of the league are off teams, otherwise we would never have giantkillings. UTV and FTF!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 25, 2020, 08:52:36 AM
Three weeks before the game and I think we haven't got a chance, regardless of what tactics we go for.

Next Sunday, I'll think that we could contain them if we play well but they'll have to have a rank off day.

The Sunday after, I may believe that we could sneak it.  Maybe penalties?

The morning over the game, we'll win 2-0 no worries and Man City needed bother turning up!

I'm getting very close to feeling the latter here! Man City should be getting a bit worried I think!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on February 25, 2020, 09:31:52 AM
As worried as I am?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 25, 2020, 09:56:05 AM
Containing, maintaining and hoping for a lucky chance will not work. For us to win some disturbance is required to change the equilibrium of the match from superior v inadequate to a rough rowdy fight which reduces them to an ineffective unit not able to deploy their normal methodical approach.   So basically kick the fuckers off the park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 25, 2020, 10:07:22 AM
Those odds are on us to win in ninety minutes. We are only around 10/1 to lift the trophy. Not that I'll be rushing out to put my life savings on it.

Yep. We're not even expected to score.

I'll be hoping for a Real Madrid win, just to get them thinking about that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 25, 2020, 10:08:21 AM
Narrow Real Madrid win or draw is best. If Real win 5-0, Man City will be more focused on domestic honours as they'll know the Champions League has likely gone.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 25, 2020, 10:20:23 AM
i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads

its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before

i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday

the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup

if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week

i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle

( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 25, 2020, 10:26:05 AM
Narrow Real Madrid win or draw is best. If Real win 5-0, Man City will be more focused on domestic honours as they'll know the Champions League has likely gone.

Agree.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 25, 2020, 10:49:24 AM
i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads

its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before

i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday

the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup

if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week

i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle

( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)

Can someone help this man and his daughter out please?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: DB on February 25, 2020, 12:00:16 PM
Narrow Real Madrid win or draw is best. If Real win 5-0, Man City will be more focused on domestic honours as they'll know the Champions League has likely gone.

Agree.

With a few injuries added in to er.. all their team
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 25, 2020, 12:36:39 PM
22/1 in a two horse race for us to win in 90 mins !!
Its got to be worth a couple of quid, surely ? 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 25, 2020, 12:37:44 PM
Who is that with? I don't gamble, but crikey, it's worth a tenner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 25, 2020, 12:42:58 PM
check on oddschecker.
Varying between 14's and 21/1 now
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 25, 2020, 12:43:34 PM
Who is that with? I don't gamble, but crikey, it's worth a tenner.

Surely you don't need 45p that badly?! ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on February 25, 2020, 12:47:42 PM
I wonder what odds were that Liverpool would beat Wimbledon in the 1988 FA Cup final?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on February 25, 2020, 12:48:02 PM
For me Dean has to get the tactics and the team that he picks right on Sunday, if we get easily beat the crowd could turn against him, and I think that could be the end for him (unfortunately). I should imagine our 2 owners will be attendance and they will not want to witness a no show from us.

But I am sure that after Saturday's humiliation the 11 who play in the final will do us proud!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 25, 2020, 01:25:37 PM
Curious to hear what everyone would play?

I personally think 3-4-3 might have run it's course and we would be better of with 4-5-1. Man City like to press very high up the pitch so I think we should be trying to by-pass playing around at the back as much as possible, and using Samatta as an outball?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 25, 2020, 01:58:27 PM
I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on February 25, 2020, 02:02:05 PM
I agree with 4-5-1 & Grealish to be told to support Samatta.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Luke8 on February 25, 2020, 02:14:31 PM
I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.

Donít disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.

Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess youíd have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then itís only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 25, 2020, 02:17:54 PM
I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.

Donít disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.

Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess youíd have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then itís only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?

Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 25, 2020, 02:51:03 PM
I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.

Don’t disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.

Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess you’d have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then it’s only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?

Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.

I have said exactly the same to a colleague today

neither of AEG / Trez deserve to be anywhere near starting
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 25, 2020, 03:00:48 PM
I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.

Donít disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.

Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess youíd have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then itís only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?

Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.

I have said exactly the same to a colleague today

neither of AEG / Trez deserve to be anywhere near starting

I can see one of them scoring in the final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 25, 2020, 03:04:54 PM
I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.

Donít disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.

Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess youíd have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then itís only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?

Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.

I have said exactly the same to a colleague today

neither of AEG / Trez deserve to be anywhere near starting

I can see one of them scoring in the final.

Is there any news on A&E's injury? I trust it's not life threatening.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nigel on February 25, 2020, 03:14:39 PM
AEG is an Special Occasions player.
He would rise to the challenge
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 25, 2020, 03:14:42 PM
Iím assuming itís a severe case of dented pride followed by extreme piss taking from his team mates.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 25, 2020, 03:36:10 PM
I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.

Donít disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.

Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess youíd have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then itís only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?

Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.

I have said exactly the same to a colleague today

neither of AEG / Trez deserve to be anywhere near starting

I can see one of them scoring in the final.



Anwar in the last minute to bring the cup home.

You know it makes sense.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 25, 2020, 03:42:24 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 25, 2020, 03:51:09 PM
Iím assuming itís a severe case of dented pride followed by extreme piss taking from his team mates.

I imagine itís more a severe case of dented pride followed by extremely pissed off team mates.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bren'd on February 25, 2020, 03:58:18 PM
Man City have bigger things to concern them than this cup so I'm hoping they will treat it like Liverpool did last night V West Ham.  Somebody told me today that they've been to Wembley 17 times under the new owners. It's bound to lose it's appeal with that regularity.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on February 25, 2020, 04:24:19 PM
Iím assuming itís a severe case of dented pride followed by extreme piss taking from his team mates.

I imagine itís more a severe case of dented pride followed by extremely pissed off team mates.

I think theyíve got through the angry bit of the change curve, have reached acceptance and now intend to make him suffer for being such a fannying bottle merchant.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 25, 2020, 04:27:43 PM
This guy simulated the match 108 times on Football Manager 2020.

We won 26, Man City won 82.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 25, 2020, 04:33:01 PM
This guy simulated the match 108 times on Football Manager 2020.

We won 26, Man City won 82.



So you're saying there's a chance?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 25, 2020, 04:44:50 PM
This guy simulated the match 108 times on Football Manager 2020.

We won 26, Man City won 82.



So you're saying there's a chance?

(https://i.imgur.com/qS1gaF8.jpg)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 25, 2020, 04:46:25 PM
Well its not like we've got anything better to do on Sunday
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 25, 2020, 08:21:15 PM
I feel a bit flat about it all which I hate given how rare it is we get to cup finals. Has we lost at Southampton putting in solid display I know weíd all feel differently. I know Iíd have more optimism. But now itís more a case of expecting what seems inevitable and being behind delighted with anything else. I do hope all at the club realize what a shit show that was at the weekend and there would be no better stage or platform to rebound from than by winning the cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on February 25, 2020, 08:37:56 PM
I feel a bit flat about it all which I hate given how rare it is we get to cup finals. Has we lost at Southampton putting in solid display I know weíd all feel differently. I know Iíd have more optimism. But now itís more a case of expecting what seems inevitable and being behind delighted with anything else. I do hope all at the club realize what a shit show that was at the weekend and there would be no better stage or platform to rebound from than by winning the cup.

That's true but this game has the potential to be a bigger mismatch than the Arsenal humiliation. Hopefully the trip to Madrid knocks a few injuries out of them and they play somewhat of a scratch side on Sunday. I just hope we make a game out of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on February 26, 2020, 05:51:10 AM
We so need some kind of competitive performance on Sunday not just for the fact itís a cup final but for the remaining games of the season.

Quite a worrying stat that says weíve have only got one point this season against the top nine in the Premier League and seven of our last 11 games are against the top nine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 26, 2020, 08:41:55 AM
After the 94 final win we slumped in the league. Looking st 96, our form did likewise. Including the semi-final against Liverpool, we lost 4, drew 1 and won 2 of our last 7 games.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Holte132 on February 26, 2020, 09:52:18 AM
I see that the 4th official on Sunday is David Coote who was the VAR that didn't send off Spurs' Giovani Lo Celso at the weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: danno on February 26, 2020, 10:06:12 AM
After the 94 final win we slumped in the league. Looking st 96, our form did likewise. Including the semi-final against Liverpool, we lost 4, drew 1 and won 2 of our last 7 games.

In 96 Southgate got injured against Liverpool and missed all but the last game of the season. I think that was a bigger factor than any 'cup hangover' tbh
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 26, 2020, 10:10:58 AM
After the 94 final win we slumped in the league. Looking st 96, our form did likewise. Including the semi-final against Liverpool, we lost 4, drew 1 and won 2 of our last 7 games.

In 96 Southgate got injured against Liverpool and missed all but the last game of the season. I think that was a bigger factor than any 'cup hangover' tbh

We lost 3 and drew 1 of out last 4. We actually won 2 on the spin after Liverpool, which I think may have had more of an impact given the way the game ended.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 26, 2020, 01:11:01 PM
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Interesting that both those goals (PO final and Semi) were crosses from Elmo
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 26, 2020, 01:14:10 PM
Yep, he can be a decent crosser of the ball.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 26, 2020, 01:51:31 PM
Best crosser at the club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 26, 2020, 01:52:00 PM
It surprises me just how little excitement I can muster for a game where in all likihood, City will waltz to a comfortable victory. I've never gone into a Wembley game for Villa not fancying it, even a little. I thought we'd give Arsenal game in 2015 (sadly, the opposite was true). I thought we'd beat Chelsea, Utd, Chelsea (in the 2010 semi) or at least make a game of it (we only did against Utd of those games). I always fancied winning the playoff games we had. I always felt, no matter if we weren't fantastic, that we'd raise our game.
Trouble is...we're going into a Wembley final, having never looked shitter as a side, going into a cup final. We're not as bad as when we got relegated (which came after the FA Cup final). I've got virtually zero optimism. The sad part is, we play these big sides this season, and there's not a side out there bar Liverpool in the Premier League that any fucker should fear. That includes City. You can get at them. On their day, absolutely unstoppable yes, but they've been fallable this season. I fucking hate that we played a mediocre Spurs side and didn't see out a result on our patch. See also Chelsea, Utd, Arsenal. It bugs me other clubs are pulling off results against sides that historically we've often been comfortably beaten by when they've looked at their best but have been poor this season. We just seem to have a disappointing small time mentality. Even when we raise our game the nerves and mistakes kick in because we panic and we lose. Unfortunately, City this season haven't even seen our plucky side. They've had it easy as anything.

And I hate UEFA for announcing City's ban pre-final, because with the prospect of one less trophy to compete for next season, and potentially beyond, and looking like the pickings this season are getting slimmer, they'll not be taking this lightly. It might be the Milk Cup, but they'll want in the cabinet, probably more than our players do.

Prove me wrong Villa, but my guts telling me we'll roll over with a wimper. I hate caring about a cup final, I really do. There's 5-6 players I'm sick of seeing at the moment too and I'm dreading the starting lineup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 26, 2020, 02:16:03 PM
deleted...posting rubbish (again)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 26, 2020, 02:16:51 PM
Best crosser at the club.
no, that's Elmo I reckon.

That's who we were talking about.  :D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 26, 2020, 05:00:42 PM
i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads

its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before

i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday

the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup

if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week

i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle

( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)


donít worry chaps
we are going to win, just picked up a return on the official site for my lucky charm daughter
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 26, 2020, 05:13:16 PM
Probably already been posted, but in case it hasn't

Referee: Lee Mason
Assistant Referees: Ian Hussin and Harry Lennard
Fourth Official: David Coote
VAR: Mike Dean
AVAR: Neil Davies
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 26, 2020, 05:14:03 PM
i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads

its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before

i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday

the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup

if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week

i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle

( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)


donít worry chaps
we are going to win, just picked up a return on the official site for my lucky charm daughter

Hi john, how'd you go about that mate? Buy Tickets button is showing as 'Coming Soon' for me, was still showing Sold Out two days ago......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 26, 2020, 05:34:10 PM
Just on The Chase...apparently Man City won the League Cup for the 6th time last year going ahead of our 5 wins (weíre still level with Man Utd and Chelsea). If they win on Sunday theyíll be one behind Liverpool...or we could go level with Man City. Annoyingly, 4 of their 6 LC wins have come in the last 6 seasons.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 26, 2020, 05:46:12 PM
Probably already been posted, but in case it hasn't

Referee: Lee Mason
Assistant Referees: Ian Hussin and Harry Lennard
Fourth Official: David Coote
VAR: Mike Dean
AVAR: Neil Davies

Yep, Lee Mason from Greater Manchester (Bolton) and Mike fucking Dean...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 26, 2020, 06:24:24 PM
i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads

its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before

i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday

the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup

if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week

i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle

( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)


donít worry chaps
we are going to win, just picked up a return on the official site for my lucky charm daughter

Hi john, how'd you go about that mate? Buy Tickets button is showing as 'Coming Soon' for me, was still showing Sold Out two days ago......

Right this is what you do

go on to away tickets and it will come up as Sold Out

stay on that page and keep refreshing
I refreshed on a mobile, and just kept pressing

then when there is a return it changes to Buy
thatís when you need to act fast
Press Buy, that will then take you to the seat press on that straight away and then complete the purchase as normal

I spent 20-30 minutes refreshing and missed the first time but got lucky second time
It might take longer I donít know
depends on how desperate you are and how much time and patience you have

Good luck
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 26, 2020, 06:27:52 PM
Just to be clear when I say keep refreshing I donít mean every couple of minutes I mean all the time like 100 times a minute until it turns to Buy

it does do it even if you start to lose hope
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Taylor on February 26, 2020, 06:40:04 PM
Just been watching one of those road to Wembley videos on you tube. Lansbury seemed to play a vital part in many of our goals. After his comments about players "playing themselves out of a place", I wonder if Smith may start with our Henri?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 06:43:21 PM
Just been watching one of those road to Wembley videos on you tube. Lansbury seemed to play a vital part in many of our goals. After his comments about players "playing themselves out of a place", I wonder if Smith may start with our Henri?

Lansbury has not been used effectively in my opinion. He was excellent in the hole for forest and we have never player him there
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on February 26, 2020, 06:49:26 PM
and cue Mick McCarthy gif...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on February 26, 2020, 06:57:20 PM
4 days to go...anyone feeling excited yet?

If not, just forget how shit weíve been in the league recently and how piss poor some of our players are, and remember weíre in the final of the League Cup at Wembley and everyone involved with the club needs to be positive and enjoy the day.

Come on you Villa boys!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 26, 2020, 07:32:38 PM
Aston Villa 0 Man Citeh 254. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on February 26, 2020, 07:40:20 PM
His best position is most definately in a hole.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SteveN on February 26, 2020, 07:44:51 PM
Ageuro and Sterling on the bench tonight in order to be rested for the bigger game on Sunday.
Fancy us for a shock 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on February 26, 2020, 07:52:46 PM
Citeh worried about us for Sunday as they are playing their weaker side tonight, leaving Aguero and Sterling on the bench. Obviously, they have realised that Real Madrid are no match for them, but will be tested against the mighty Villa. Pep must be really worried that Dean Smith will ring the changes for our match with them.
Bugger, something just woke me up!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 26, 2020, 08:06:06 PM
4 days to go...anyone feeling excited yet?

If not, just forget how shit weíve been in the league recently and how piss poor some of our players are, and remember weíre in the final of the League Cup at Wembley and everyone involved with the club needs to be positive and enjoy the day.

Come on you Villa boys!!!

Shhh, Risso really doesn't approve 😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 08:07:01 PM
Citeh worried about us for Sunday as they are playing their weaker side tonight, leaving Aguero and Sterling on the bench. Obviously, they have realised that Real Madrid are no match for them, but will be tested against the mighty Villa. Pep must be really worried that Dean Smith will ring the changes for our match with them.
Bugger, something just woke me up!!

With aguero and sterling starting they are going ro take this very seriously. Going to be a very long afternoon

Have citeh sold all theie tickets yet?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on February 26, 2020, 08:30:46 PM
and cue Mick McCarthy gif...

So disappointed, I never get bored of seeing that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 08:55:00 PM
Larportes picked up a injury !!

Huge blow for citeh as he keeps their defence together
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on February 26, 2020, 09:12:28 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: achilles on February 26, 2020, 09:28:51 PM
Seeing as we need at least 3 goals to win any game it could be very open, 10 - 3 to City, a very close game with City being the first side to have a 100 shots in a final!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 09:43:17 PM
God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on February 26, 2020, 09:45:58 PM
They don't lose many games and to lose 2 in a row would be highly unlikely.
It's clutching at straws maybe but I'm going to be positive until I am forced to change.

It's much more fun than being a bloody misery.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2020, 09:52:21 PM
God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs

Give it a rest can't you?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 09:54:28 PM
God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs

Give it a rest can't you?

Freedom of speech you know what that is?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2020, 09:55:39 PM
God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs

Give it a rest can't you?

Freedom of speech you know what that is?

Something that works both ways.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 09:57:51 PM
God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs

Give it a rest can't you?

Freedom of speech you know what that is?

Something that works both ways.

Exactly so dont tell me to "give it a rest" Dont see you telling other posters to give it a rest when they post negative things.



Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 26, 2020, 09:59:02 PM
'Freedom of Speech' was a very old username of mine elsewhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on February 26, 2020, 10:01:10 PM
Laporte out injured for the final? Went off tonight after 33 mins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on February 26, 2020, 10:01:26 PM
Man City must be buzzing for the UCL! Not so much for the League Cup perhaps?

One man's shit cart is another one's Lord Mayors Show.....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2020, 10:02:17 PM
God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs

Give it a rest can't you?

Freedom of speech you know what that is?

Something that works both ways.

Exactly so dont tell me to "give it a rest" Dont see you telling other posters to give it a rest when they post negative things.



Then you should feel privileged that you've been singled out for special attention.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 26, 2020, 10:03:35 PM
Freedom of Speech Wonít Feed My Children.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 26, 2020, 10:04:16 PM
God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs

Give it a rest can't you?

Freedom of speech you know what that is?

Something that works both ways.

Exactly so dont tell me to "give it a rest" Dont see you telling other posters to give it a rest when they post negative things.

Surely if we're having freedom of speech, he can tell you whatever he wants?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 26, 2020, 10:04:55 PM
Plus he is the Boss.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2020, 10:05:52 PM
Where does this idea come from that there is any sort of freedom, democracy or fairness on here?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 26, 2020, 10:06:17 PM
Madrid arenít all that🤔😬
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 10:07:57 PM
Plus he is the Boss.

If he is the boss i want a raise
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 26, 2020, 10:11:03 PM
Plus he is the Boss.

If he is the boss i want a raise

I think you're more likely to be getting your P45, plus a shit reference.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 10:12:37 PM
God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs

Give it a rest can't you?

Freedom of speech you know what that is?

Something that works both ways.

Exactly so dont tell me to "give it a rest" Dont see you telling other posters to give it a rest when they post negative things.



Then you should feel privileged that you've been singled out for special attention.

Ah is that your way of saying you like me really 😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 26, 2020, 10:13:52 PM
Plus he is the Boss.

If he is the boss i want a raise

I think you're more likely to be getting your P45, plus a shit reference.

😂😂😂 ill give you that one paulie that made me laugh
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 26, 2020, 10:14:07 PM
If this is going to end up in an Employment Tribunal, Iíll offer mateís rates but itís first come first served.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 26, 2020, 10:16:18 PM
Ah is that your way of saying you like me really 😉
Careful now. People have told me he doesn't like anyone. Allegedly he once smashed a mirror because he didn't like the bloke in there looking at him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2020, 10:20:11 PM
Ah is that your way of saying you like me really 😉
Careful now. People have told me he doesn't like anyone. Allegedly he once smashed a mirror because he didn't like the bloke in there looking at him.

Don't be ridiculous. Mirrors cost money.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 26, 2020, 10:46:05 PM
Ah is that your way of saying you like me really 😉
Careful now. People have told me he doesn't like anyone. Allegedly he once smashed a mirror because he didn't like the bloke in there looking at him.

Don't be ridiculous. Mirrors cost money.

He didnít say it was yours!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 26, 2020, 10:53:07 PM
Definitely wouldn't be his.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 27, 2020, 12:58:50 AM
Laporte out injured for the final? Went off tonight after 33 mins.

Easily their best defender.

That said they got through o.k with I think Otamendi-Stones at VP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 27, 2020, 06:52:38 AM
Laporte out injured for the final? Went off tonight after 33 mins.

Easily their best defender.

That said they got through o.k with I think Otamendi-Stones at VP.

I think stones is injured so it will be fernadinho and rodri at cb. We definitely should be playing jack as a number 10 if thats the case behind samatta

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on February 27, 2020, 07:10:33 AM
'Freedom of Speech' was a very old username of mine elsewhere.

Not allowed to use it now?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 27, 2020, 07:20:44 AM
Citeh have taken the unsual step of confirming bravo will be in goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on February 27, 2020, 07:29:41 AM
It surprises me just how little excitement I can muster for a game where in all likihood, City will waltz to a comfortable victory. I've never gone into a Wembley game for Villa not fancying it, even a little. I thought we'd give Arsenal game in 2015 (sadly, the opposite was true). I thought we'd beat Chelsea, Utd, Chelsea (in the 2010 semi) or at least make a game of it (we only did against Utd of those games). I always fancied winning the playoff games we had. I always felt, no matter if we weren't fantastic, that we'd raise our game.
Trouble is...we're going into a Wembley final, having never looked shitter as a side, going into a cup final. We're not as bad as when we got relegated (which came after the FA Cup final). I've got virtually zero optimism. The sad part is, we play these big sides this season, and there's not a side out there bar Liverpool in the Premier League that any fucker should fear. That includes City. You can get at them. On their day, absolutely unstoppable yes, but they've been fallable this season. I fucking hate that we played a mediocre Spurs side and didn't see out a result on our patch. See also Chelsea, Utd, Arsenal. It bugs me other clubs are pulling off results against sides that historically we've often been comfortably beaten by when they've looked at their best but have been poor this season. We just seem to have a disappointing small time mentality. Even when we raise our game the nerves and mistakes kick in because we panic and we lose. Unfortunately, City this season haven't even seen our plucky side. They've had it easy as anything.

And I hate UEFA for announcing City's ban pre-final, because with the prospect of one less trophy to compete for next season, and potentially beyond, and looking like the pickings this season are getting slimmer, they'll not be taking this lightly. It might be the Milk Cup, but they'll want in the cabinet, probably more than our players do.

Prove me wrong Villa, but my guts telling me we'll roll over with a wimper. I hate caring about a cup final, I really do. There's 5-6 players I'm sick of seeing at the moment too and I'm dreading the starting lineup.

Having never looked shitter as a side? What time frame are you working to?!?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 27, 2020, 08:00:45 AM
Probably already been posted, but in case it hasn't

Referee: Lee Mason
Assistant Referees: Ian Hussin and Harry Lennard
Fourth Official: David Coote
VAR: Mike Dean
AVAR: Neil Davies

fuckin hell Mike Dean- VAR ref? I listened to the Peter Crouch podcast a couple of days ago and was a guest- heís a big Tranmere fan, so probably hates Villa. Seemed alright though, so weíll see...In all likelihood any VAR decisions probably wonít influence the outcome. Still think weíll lose, but at least Iím mustering a bit of excitement for it. Itís a bit like coming up on a pill. Iíll be buzzing by Sunday night (in Aus)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 27, 2020, 08:17:18 AM
If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 27, 2020, 09:02:55 AM
'Freedom of Speech' was a very old username of mine elsewhere.

Not allowed to use it now?

Don't think I even got to make a single post.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 27, 2020, 09:56:35 AM
If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.

So are Norwich.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on February 27, 2020, 11:30:10 AM
Man City 1st half/ Villa 2nd half   125/1

Best bet you will ever make.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 27, 2020, 12:08:34 PM
Man City 1st half/ Villa 2nd half   125/1

Best bet you will ever make.

3-0 first half

1-0 second half

City to win 3-1

:)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 27, 2020, 02:20:52 PM
If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.

So are Norwich.

And if we lose on Sunday, we're on a par with Real Madrid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on February 27, 2020, 02:25:25 PM
If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.

So are Norwich.

And if we lose on Sunday, we're on a par with Real Madrid.

Good point for the likely need to launch a rigorous defence of everything Villa in the pub during the aftermath.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 27, 2020, 03:41:56 PM
If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.

So are Norwich.

And if we lose on Sunday, we're on a par with Real Madrid.

Good point for the likely need to launch a rigorous defence of everything Villa in the pub during the aftermath.

Nah, they can all hang if that happens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on February 27, 2020, 03:57:08 PM
I'm going for a Villa win, can't explain that, just a feeling we will want it more then City, City will certainly score, so I'm looking at 2-1 Villa.

From there we relaunch into Premiership safety, so here we go, massive huge weekend coming up. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 27, 2020, 04:37:24 PM
Is it just tubes to Wembley Stadium that are buggered but you are okay going to Wembley Central? I can't get the stupid TfL site to understand that no buzzes means no buzzes. And that includes shitty replacement ones.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 27, 2020, 04:41:38 PM
Is it just tubes to Wembley Stadium that are buggered but you are okay going to Wembley Central? I can't get the stupid TfL site to understand that no buzzes means no buzzes. And that includes shitty replacement ones.

The only thing that looks mildly buggered is the service between Uxbridge and Harrow, which has a rail replacement.  Everything else looks OK.  If you're getting the train from New Street into London, all the routes from Euston to Wembley are running as normal from what I can see.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 27, 2020, 04:43:33 PM
Ta. I'm going Marylebone. I thought the replacements were replacement buses, that's not so bad then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: shirley_villan on February 27, 2020, 04:51:32 PM
How packed are the Chilternís on the way down normally, as this will be the first time Iíve caught one on a matchday?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 27, 2020, 06:01:41 PM
How packed are the Chilternís on the way down normally, as this will be the first time Iíve caught one on a matchday?

Very. Expect to stand all the way. Especially if youíre getting on at Solihull.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: waringpongo on February 27, 2020, 06:11:18 PM
We seem to do well in league cup finals with a Villa supporting manager so I'm going for a win but will watch from behind the settee.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Taylor on February 27, 2020, 06:33:13 PM
Couldnít get a ticket, I live in London and my booking history isnít good enough.

So Iím at work today and my phone is buzzing all day from a mate, but Iím teaching so canít pick it up. Finally pick it up at about 4:30, he says where are you watching the game on Sunday? I tell him Iím going to a pub in town (havenít decided the venue yet). He says do you fancy watching it at Wembley, in hospitality? Canít believe it. So excited.

Come on Villa!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 27, 2020, 06:45:36 PM
Couldnít get a ticket, I live in London and my booking history isnít good enough.

So Iím at work today and my phone is buzzing all day from a mate, but Iím teaching so canít pick it up. Finally pick it up at about 4:30, he says where are you watching the game on Sunday? I tell him Iím going to a pub in town (havenít decided the venue yet). He says do you fancy watching it at Wembley, in hospitality? Canít believe it. So excited.

Come on Villa!!

Blimey, that's the kind of mate you want!

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on February 27, 2020, 06:45:52 PM
Couldnít get a ticket, I live in London and my booking history isnít good enough.

So Iím at work today and my phone is buzzing all day from a mate, but Iím teaching so canít pick it up. Finally pick it up at about 4:30, he says where are you watching the game on Sunday? I tell him Iím going to a pub in town (havenít decided the venue yet). He says do you fancy watching it at Wembley, in hospitality? Canít believe it. So excited.

Come on Villa!!
Nice one!  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 27, 2020, 06:50:05 PM
Taylor, that's great news. Have a cracking day!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 27, 2020, 07:13:59 PM
Taylor .....you really are a lucky sew and sew ;)
Have a great day buddy and give em a shout from me and Jnr
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on February 27, 2020, 10:37:53 PM
I'm going for a Villa win, can't explain that, just a feeling we will want it more then City, City will certainly score, so I'm looking at 2-1 Villa.

From there we relaunch into Premiership safety, so here we go, massive huge weekend coming up.

Would be amazing!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 28, 2020, 12:10:28 AM
Starting to build up for it now.  Hoping for a Wembley performance and result like 1994, fearing one like 2015.  I just hope that unlike the latter horror show, they go out on Sunday, give it a real go and at least look like they have some belief that they can win. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 28, 2020, 12:41:26 AM
Ta. I'm going Marylebone. I thought the replacements were replacement buses, that's not so bad then.

Bakerloo to Wembley Central. Easy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on February 28, 2020, 08:30:24 AM
Okay: so I sold my ticket as soon as I got it - mainly, 'cos it's a long schlep back to N Yorks after a tough game, and my son couldn't get a ticket. So, I'll be in a Harrogate pub with him.
As we approach the day can I just say:





HAVE FUN EVERYONE; CHEERS YOUR NUTS OFF AND SHOUT THEM TO VICTORY!! :) :) 8) :) :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Luffbralion on February 28, 2020, 08:47:33 AM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 28, 2020, 08:53:18 AM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
Weíll be heading back to Birmingham by half time.

 :-\
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nevillain on February 28, 2020, 09:51:42 AM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 28, 2020, 10:28:48 AM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?


I remember it being sung in the 90s.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on February 28, 2020, 11:15:02 AM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?


I remember it being sung in the 90s.

We've sung it every time we've been to Wembley even for semi finals, sod it, we don't get the chance that often. The Bull Ring is still a place so no need to change it.
Or we could be running 'round a "recently built mixed use commercial development" with the Cup?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 28, 2020, 11:37:52 AM
Still not excited about this. More concerned about the potential impact on the Leciester game. That said, it should make it less disappointing in the event we do lose and even better should we win.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 28, 2020, 11:41:21 AM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?


I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:

Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, weíre going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.

Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if Iím not mistaken!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 28, 2020, 11:50:14 AM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?


I remember it being sung in the 90s.

Yes it was sung leaving Wembley in 96 too.  With the extension of 'singing fuck off, fuck off Barry Fry.'
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on February 28, 2020, 11:52:06 AM
Still not excited about this. More concerned about the potential impact on the Leciester game. That said, it should make it less disappointing in the event we do lose and even better should we win.
Hard to be excited when you know more than likely you're going to get battered for the whole country to see. I'm excited for the day but not the game but as you say we're all travelling down with no expectations so a close defeat will be OK or a miracle win will be unbelievable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 28, 2020, 11:52:07 AM
Still not excited about this. More concerned about the potential impact on the Leciester game. That said, it should make it less disappointing in the event we do lose and even better should we win.



That's my take on it, by and large.

I just hope we have a go at winning it, that's about it really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nigel on February 28, 2020, 11:59:52 AM
Jack plays a blinder, and scores the winner
We stay up, but, he goes to Real Madrid for £200m
We rebuild the squad and win the league.
The following season we get to Champions League final, where we play Real Madrid
Weíre winning 1-0 when we concede a last minute penalty in front of the Villa fans.
As penalty taker, Jack steps up to take penalty, he hasnít missed all season
He balloons it over the bar Into row Z
Whips of his Madrid top to reveal a Villa t shirt with the logo ĎIím coming homeí
and runs to the fans. 👍
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 28, 2020, 12:00:32 PM
As long as we show pride passion and effort the result will be irrelevant.  We are not expected to dk anything.

Lets hope we do it but i do fear a hiding based on our form and that they have beasts like aguero and sterling to unleash on us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 28, 2020, 01:46:38 PM
Still not excited about this. More concerned about the potential impact on the Leciester game. That said, it should make it less disappointing in the event we do lose and even better should we win.



That's my take on it, by and large.

I just hope we have a go at winning it, that's about it really.

Iíve had such a hard time thinking about it. On the back of the Southampton game, then starkly contrasted by Man City coming back to win at Real Madrid, I just donít have any real belief or optimism about this. One of those where I hope that a miracle will happen but expect to be down 3-0 at HT.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 28, 2020, 02:07:30 PM
I'm not going but can understand the lack of enthusiasm. We are in a relegation battle that's all consuming. Its also hardly a novelty playing at Wembley. We will likely lose. The weathers shit.

I just hope we give 110% as a certain League Cup legend would have said.

Head says 3-0 to them, the heart is going for it been decided on pens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on February 28, 2020, 02:17:22 PM
I doubt we will win. In fact this is the first time I recall a final when I give us bugger all chance.

They simply have too much firepower.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on February 28, 2020, 02:28:52 PM
Since I'm on the Isle of Wight for a few days, I'll be going down the pub to watch Sunday's game, and I'll be proudly wearing my Villa shirt.

My reasoning being that by the time their fifth goal goes in, everyone will be feeling so sorry for the poor bugger in the claret and blue top, that they all start buying me drinks.

If we perform like we did against Southampton, I may have to have my stomach pumped.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on February 28, 2020, 02:36:59 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing Aston Villa in a Final again and I'm praying we upset the form books and win it will be difficult but not impossible as long as we put in our best performance and give 110% and fingers and everything else crossed we win it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: chrisw1 on February 28, 2020, 02:39:03 PM
I'm just hoping for a spirited performance and a cracking atmosphere.  That will do me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Vill I An on February 28, 2020, 02:40:09 PM
This is an unearthly difficult match without wanting to look at facts like Villa concede the most goals and most shots in the league And that on the field of play , Aston villa this season have been remarkably inconsistent in performanced  It's left me feeling frustrated. It is also not helped by the fact that Man City are the highest scorers in the league , Just had a morale boosting win Vs Real Madrid and have recorded and impressive 4 wins in 6 season of the EFL cup.

But here's the good thing and where I can keep shades of enthusiasm.
I'm assuming that the players have been told and can see this is a one off match.
Form ,statistics and facts have no bearing as this is just one match  and all they have to do is win it outright.
The league cup will be won by the team that scores the most goals on the day.
I can obsess about all the quality  man city players have but I'm obsessing about all the good in the Villa players. There is quality there and there is ability to score goals, play football and perform.
No matter who we play.

What Villa players and Dean Smith can have is a want to be better and want to be better than any other performance they have had this season. And especially in recent performances!
The cup final is really a chance to show all the lessons learnt from the season so far.
It stands to reason that playing high quality opposition means Villa already know they have to raise their standards and this can only be a good thing.

The fear of Villa losing and Villa losing heavily is only based on the past experiences
The actual reality is , that a team don't have the generally -considered, better players to win a cup , I don't think the better team always wins a football match. Sure the best team wins a league but a cup match ? Not always.
And we could bring the argument of best team on the day wins a football match..
And why not? Villa could be the best team Sunday
What Aston villa do need are more than 2 or 3 players performing.
And because it's a cup final I believe that the whole team will look to super perform so have some level of  enthusiasm to what can happen in a one off match.
All the players selected have an opportunity to make a positive difference and contribution and I would say I'm more hoping that expecting a positive outcome because with these players and this team we just don't know what could happen

Up the villa.



Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 28, 2020, 02:47:19 PM
Ta. I'm going Marylebone. I thought the replacements were replacement buses, that's not so bad then.

Bakerloo to Wembley Central. Easy.

Thanks mate.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 28, 2020, 03:25:59 PM
Man City 1st half/ Villa 2nd half   125/1

Best bet you will ever make.

I actually stuck a tenner on that. Odds are crazy.

Imagine the scenes Barry named on the bench  comes on and scores the winner. Would there be any scenario better?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on February 28, 2020, 03:37:07 PM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?


I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:

Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, weíre going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.

Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if Iím not mistaken!!

Fowler scored the hat trick in 96 just after the win vs Leeds and when Sir Brian was manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 28, 2020, 03:38:44 PM
The way I see it when you look back to the Ď84 team is we havenít got a bosnich, Richardson, McGrath, Teale, Townsend, Saunders, dalian, or Yorke . Absolute class side
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 28, 2020, 03:54:04 PM
Who cares really about details? Wembley wins against man Utd and Leeds  scum Utd was alright.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on February 28, 2020, 03:58:16 PM
Since I'm on the Isle of Wight for a few days, I'll be going down the pub to watch Sunday's game, and I'll be proudly wearing my Villa shirt.

My reasoning being that by the time their fifth goal goes in, everyone will be feeling so sorry for the poor bugger in the claret and blue top, that they all start buying me drinks.

If we perform like we did against Southampton, I may have to have my stomach pumped.
Which pub are you going to?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Vill I An on February 28, 2020, 04:27:59 PM
2-1 villa man city (they have a player sent off)


Reina
Elmo   Konsa Mings Hause Target
Hourihane Nakamba Grealish
Samatta Davis

That's the 11 I would play
Konsa can step in to midfield and Grealish can drop back.

If Davis isn't fit then I think Trezeguet be given the chance after the winner in semi and the problems he caused v Man city when he came on at villa park.
Although maybe Trez will start anyway as can see him being match winner for villa.
I think Davis is the wild card option (or Baston) two strikers to occupy their defence.


Hourihane gets his place for his past efforts , ability to score and having experience on big occasion.
Elmo due to same and has ability to deliver the ball.

Gilbert , Luiz El Ghazi lose out from Southampton

 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 28, 2020, 05:03:42 PM
The way I see it when you look back to the Ď84 team is we havenít got a bosnich, Richardson, McGrath, Teale, Townsend, Saunders, dalian, or Yorke . Absolute class side

It was '94 and Yorke wasn't in the squad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on February 28, 2020, 05:45:38 PM
Dunno why, but after fearing the worst, I've knocked off from work for the week and have a gut feeling we're going to do them 3-1. Samagoal and Jack with the goods.

Nothing to lose boys - Get at em! UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 28, 2020, 05:52:33 PM
have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: charlatan on February 28, 2020, 05:52:58 PM
My fifth child was due today. I'm guessing it'll be born on Sunday (obviously 29 Feb is the choice date) and we'll lose 5-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on February 28, 2020, 06:18:57 PM
I'm sick of all the defeatist talk. We know we're up against it but hey it wouldn't be the first time we've upset the odds. Lets just remember who we are. We are following in the footsteps of our forefathers. Let's go there and raise the roof for the boys in claret & blue.Just like we always have. Just like we always will. We are ASTON VILLA. Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 28, 2020, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: langleylions link=topic=60584.msg3727611

#msg3727611 date=1582912353
have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??

Ed 'Stewpot' Stewart and the Band of the Coldstream Guards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: SheffieldVillain on February 28, 2020, 06:27:43 PM
2-1 villa man city (they have a player sent off)

Reina
Elmo   Konsa Mings Hause Target
Hourihane Nakamba Grealish
Samatta Davis

That's the 11 I would play
Konsa can step in to midfield and Grealish can drop back.

If Davis isn't fit then I think Trezeguet be given the chance after the winner in semi and the problems he caused v Man city when he came on at villa park.
Although maybe Trez will start anyway as can see him being match winner for villa.
I think Davis is the wild card option (or Baston) two strikers to occupy their defence.


Hourihane gets his place for his past efforts , ability to score and having experience on big occasion.
Elmo due to same and has ability to deliver the ball.

Gilbert , Luiz El Ghazi lose out from Southampton

Welcome back! I reckon you might have called the Hourihane and Elmo picks right if Deano sticks with what he said after the match. A touch harsh on Guilbert overall this season but he did (as he said himself) have a stinker last time out. Trezeguet rather than Davis I think as I can't see him being fit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on February 28, 2020, 06:38:45 PM
I'm sick of all the defeatist talk. We know we're up against it but hey it wouldn't be the first time we've upset the odds. Lets just remember who we are. We are following in the footsteps of our forefathers. Let's go there and raise the roof for the boys in claret & blue.Just like we always have. Just like we always will. We are ASTON VILLA. Fuck 'em.

Yeah. This.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on February 28, 2020, 06:46:37 PM
have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??

Please tell me that post was ironic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on February 28, 2020, 07:05:32 PM
3.1.   Like 94.   Come on me babbies. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on February 28, 2020, 07:17:02 PM
I've just left my local, all the Villa fans were alive with talk of the weekends plans while everyone else sneered and spat with bitterness.
I know who'd I'd rather be tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on February 28, 2020, 07:24:24 PM
I'm that sick of hearing self-styled 'pundits' saying we've got no chance - that I'm starting to believe the football gods might well put a claret & blue spanner in the works. So I'm going for a Wigan-esque 1-0 and a massive two fingers to the haters & the plastics.

Avit!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Reg Brown on February 28, 2020, 07:26:40 PM
We did Leicester who made us look like idiots in the PL game at home. I donít see why we cant do the same to Man City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 28, 2020, 07:39:54 PM
I've just left my local, all the Villa fans were alive with talk of the weekends plans while everyone else sneered and spat with bitterness.
I know who'd I'd rather be tonight.

And any other night, ever.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on February 28, 2020, 07:46:31 PM
Is the half time show Shakira and J-lo ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 28, 2020, 07:47:43 PM
I hope it's not going to be sponsored by 7-Up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 28, 2020, 07:59:13 PM
I hope it's not going to be sponsored by 7-Up.

I don't know, I'd quite like us to score 7.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 28, 2020, 08:46:20 PM
I hope it's not going to be sponsored by 7-Up.

Or After Eight's....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 28, 2020, 08:46:59 PM
Ben 10?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: The_ads on February 28, 2020, 09:00:45 PM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?


I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:

Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, weíre going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.

Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if Iím not mistaken!!

You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasnít a hat trick
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 28, 2020, 09:02:21 PM
McAteer got the other
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on February 28, 2020, 09:10:21 PM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?


I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:

Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, weíre going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.

Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if Iím not mistaken!!

You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasnít a hat trick

And that was in 96 not 94.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 28, 2020, 09:26:27 PM
Ben 10?

Oceans 11. I reckon we should stop mate.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 28, 2020, 09:59:50 PM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?


I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:

Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, weíre going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.

Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if Iím not mistaken!!

You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasnít a hat trick

And that was in 96 not 94.

Apart from that though...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dalians umbrella on February 28, 2020, 10:12:19 PM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?




I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:

Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, weíre going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.

Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if Iím not mistaken!!

You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasnít a hat trick

And that was in 96 not 94.

And Big Ron wasn't manager - Brian Little was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 28, 2020, 10:55:14 PM
Officially excited now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 28, 2020, 11:20:36 PM
Remember the chant:  "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?

Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?




I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:

Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, weíre going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.

Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if Iím not mistaken!!

You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasnít a hat trick

And that was in 96 not 94.

And Big Ron wasn't manager - Brian Little was.
give me a break it was 24 yrs ago and I canít be arsed to fact check every post!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 29, 2020, 12:23:27 AM
Couldnít get a ticket, I live in London and my booking history isnít good enough.

So Iím at work today and my phone is buzzing all day from a mate, but Iím teaching so canít pick it up. Finally pick it up at about 4:30, he says where are you watching the game on Sunday? I tell him Iím going to a pub in town (havenít decided the venue yet). He says do you fancy watching it at Wembley, in hospitality? Canít believe it. So excited.

Come on Villa!!
How long have you been mateís with William Windsor?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: shirley_villan on February 29, 2020, 01:03:23 AM
Was on a night shift last night and watched the whole 94 game. Been in my local tonight and thereís a minibus going from 8am.

If you canít enjoy a day at Wembley you need to re-evaluate your sport.

Up the Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on February 29, 2020, 01:56:22 AM
have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??

Please tell me that post was ironic.
what do you mean mate ??? i was mearly asking cuz last time they played each clubs songs to ger the crowd going etc thats all i was asking ffs dont be so fuckin precious you knob
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on February 29, 2020, 06:59:06 AM
Well that went from 0-100 very quickly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on February 29, 2020, 07:03:45 AM
Iím officially excited today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 29, 2020, 07:11:26 AM
have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??
Now then now then
Please tell me that post was ironic.
what do you mean mate ??? i was mearly asking cuz last time they played each clubs songs to ger the crowd going etc thats all i was asking ffs dont be so fuckin precious you knob
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on February 29, 2020, 07:42:00 AM
Just had a quick look on their Blue Moon forum and letís just say theyíre quite confident of winning by putting any team out against us tomorrow.

Iím going with the thought that weíre in a final so letís leave nothing on the pitch. I know the odds say weíve got no chance but all I want is a performance where we at least put a shift in. We may get beat but those players need some kind of personal pride being restored after last week not just for tomorrow but for going into those 11 games left. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 29, 2020, 07:49:44 AM
Reasons to be positive about the Carabao cup final:
*We are unbeaten in this year's competition (going into the final) unlike City.
*The last time Villa won this trophy was also a leap year.
* Our record against Man City in the league cup is very good winning 3 and losing only 1 in head to head encounters.
*Aston Villa won the league cup in 1977 having beaten Man City (3-0 at VP) on the way to the final.
*Villa have never lost to Man City in a cup final (they haven't lost to us either but that's irrelevant)
*We're unbeaten in March 2020 (wink, wink)
UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 29, 2020, 07:53:27 AM
have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??

Please tell me that post was ironic.
what do you mean mate ??? i was mearly asking cuz last time they played each clubs songs to ger the crowd going etc thats all i was asking ffs dont be so fuckin precious you knob

Less of that please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on February 29, 2020, 08:52:13 AM
Iím officially excited today.


For the West Ham and Bournemouth defeats 😉
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on February 29, 2020, 08:56:43 AM
Hope weather is better tomorrow than today. Its terrible down london here today.

24hrs to go !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: spk on February 29, 2020, 08:57:56 AM
Nice and sunny according to the BBC
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 29, 2020, 09:30:58 AM
Would throwing Louie Barry on the bench tomorrow be a good or bad idea (that's if he's illegible anyway)?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 29, 2020, 09:54:25 AM
Would throwing Louie Barry on the bench tomorrow be a good or bad idea (that's if he's illegible anyway)?

Liuoe Brary?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 29, 2020, 09:57:36 AM
Iím taking 3 of my 4 kids so going to make the most of it

Iíve already resigned myself to being disappointed with the line up as I think he will go for a confinement team with a defensive back 5 etc,
which will just cause City to go even more on the front foot like last time unfortunately
I would have preferred to have a go like what we were told Smith was all about when he first came but hey ho

in reality I canít really see any way we can win this and a miracle is what we need
fortunately I do believe in God and miracles so you never know

so eat drink and be merry is the plan for tomorrow before we troop of to the colosseum to see the people take on the Lions




Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT on February 29, 2020, 11:05:33 AM
Nice and sunny according to the BBC

I always check BBC weather and then prepare for the opposite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on February 29, 2020, 11:16:58 AM
Would throwing Louie Barry on the bench tomorrow be a good or bad idea (that's if he's illegible anyway)?

Liuoe Brary?
Think he means eligible  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 29, 2020, 11:26:40 AM
Would throwing Louie Barry on the bench tomorrow be a good or bad idea (that's if he's illegible anyway)?

Liuoe Brary?
Think he means eligible  ;)

Haha, good spot. I'm always half asleep first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Slaphead on February 29, 2020, 11:30:41 AM
I had a dream (lie, delusion).

Late in the game, 2 minutes left and it is 2-2. Villa are on the attack but get thwarted by a great Walker tackle. City, they attack with pace on the counter, it's Sterling, then Aguero...!!!! 3-2!!! But wait, ref indictes a VAR review for a foul back in the City box... Minutes pass.... Goal overruled, pen to Villa!! Walker didn't get the ball!!!

Grealish steps up in the dying embers...

I wake up in my seat due to the drunken stupor I'd gotten myself into.. Check the scoreboard... 4-0 City with 20 minutes to play and I've pissed my pants.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on February 29, 2020, 11:54:52 AM
It'll be grand day out. 4.30 - 6.30 might be a bit painful but it'll be like going back home (5 times in 6 years). As long as the players give 110% and try not to give the ball away in crucial areas, then thats all that we can ask. We would have beaten Real Madrid by more than one goal anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on February 29, 2020, 12:10:54 PM
What team are we expecting tomorrow, gents? If Smith carries through with his threat to drop a few of them could it be the following.....replacement options are very limited...

---------------Nyland
Elmo, Engels, Mings, Targett
Trez, Luiz, Nakamba, Hourihane, Jack
---------------Samatta
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on February 29, 2020, 12:34:11 PM
Let's face it, we're not overwhelming favourites to win this Final. However, nor were we in May 1957, May 1982 and February 1994. In our favour this is a one-off game, and with the correct attitude and commitment and if we can keep the scoreline competitive into the last 20 minutes you never know. Manchester City may have just won away at Real Madrid but aren't averse to their occasional slip-ups. Let's hope tomorrow will be such an occasion.
My heart may be over ruling my head but I'm going for a 3-2 Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Perthvillan on February 29, 2020, 12:50:36 PM
Watched the 1975 League Cup win today. I remember it was on March 1st, so 45 years ago tomorrow. I can remember also how good it was following Villa back then as we were on the verge of a great era. I had forgotten how good Nicholl and Ross were at the back that day and never gave Norwich a sniff.
Just hoping we at least give them a game tomorrow and any chance we have will be built on our defence.
I met Ian Ross many years ago (I think he was an asst coach at Wolves back then) and we talked about that game and I asked him what it was like to lift the trophy at Wembley.
Happy days.
UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on February 29, 2020, 12:52:43 PM
See it being a long afternoon. We just wont be able to cope with their midfield. 4-1 City sadly

And back to more important matters thereafter
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Newby on February 29, 2020, 01:16:10 PM
One hope I have is that it can be very difficult raise your game, emotionally, after such a great win, a few days later.  Following their fantastic win at Real Madrid, I hope that this is the case for Manchester City. Straw firmly grasped.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on February 29, 2020, 02:39:12 PM
I want to see one of the midfiled put in a crunching tackle in the first few minutes & one of centre half's smash into the back of a forward. Let them know that it's going to be fight. We can't stand off them like we did at Villa Park.

This might be the only time most of these players get to a major final, let's give it a go.

We might only beat them one in twenty games but it's not impossible...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 29, 2020, 03:08:35 PM
Reina

Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert

Nakamba
Luiz
Hourihane

Grealish

Davis
Samatta
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 29, 2020, 03:12:23 PM
He'll play Nyland I hope. I'd put Elmo back in as well personally.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 29, 2020, 03:13:12 PM
He'll play Nyland I hope. I'd put Elmo back in as well personally.

Me too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 29, 2020, 03:13:58 PM
I just hope we give them a good game. I'd like to say I'll enjoy the day regardless but memories of 2000 and 2015 aren't great to be honest. Will be one of the great days in our history if we pull it off, we can dream.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 29, 2020, 03:17:27 PM
He'll play Nyland I hope. I'd put Elmo back in as well personally.

Same here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 29, 2020, 04:59:41 PM
Elmo is a Championship player for me. Guilbert is a player I like a great deal and he did very well with Sterling up at their place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 29, 2020, 05:28:20 PM
Elmo is a Championship player for me. Guilbert is a player I like a great deal and he did very well with Sterling up at their place.

I'd play Elmo in front of Guilbert.  He's better defensively than AEG or Trez, and offers nearly as much going forward as AEG, and more than Trezeguet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 29, 2020, 05:31:43 PM
I wouldnít play Elmo instead of Guilbert, think Freddy despite last weeks game, is just a better player. Would be tempted however, to play Elmo wide midfield ahead of Guilbert, just as he can throw in the odd outstanding cross and he is more defensive minded. I think he might move to a flat back 4 and have two wide midfielders tucking in. After smiths mini outburst last week I canít see el ghazi being the only player dropped. Think Luiz may be benched.

                            Reina

Guilbert.       Engels.   Mings.  Targett

                          Nakamba

Elmo.                                   Hourihane
                           Grealish

                            Samatta

Felt really flat earlier in the week, but nerves are kicking in. And delusionally have a feeling weíll win, which would be one of the great cup upsets. Several beers in the box park will continue this delusion until 4.30pm at least!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on February 29, 2020, 05:39:21 PM
                            Reina

Guilbert.       Engels.   Mings.  Targett

                          Nakamba

Elmo.                                   Hourihane
                           Grealish

                            Samatta

Quick maths.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 29, 2020, 05:43:46 PM
I was talking last night to a mate of mine who is a Wednesday fan. Discussing Man Cityís win at Real and our dismal showing last weekend and he said we just need to treat it as a one off, give it a go and die for the cause - in an intelligent, well set out way, not a a Kevin Keegan way. He described it as a day out with a free pass. Iím trying to get myself into this mindset instead of shutting myself at 17% possession!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 29, 2020, 05:59:29 PM
                            Reina

Guilbert.       Engels.   Mings.  Targett

                          Nakamba

Elmo.                                   Hourihane
                           Grealish

                            Samatta

Quick maths.

I havenít even had a drink yet!! 😂 Luiz can back in them alongside Nakamba.

I was at the club shop this morning and there three lads there over from Belgium, clubbe Brugge fans, who went to see the game at old traffic on Thursday then came down to villa as we have so many of their ex players. They were absolutely raving about Nakamba, said he was their best player and they looked a bit crestfallen when I said heíd been a bit hit and miss for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: aev on February 29, 2020, 06:14:08 PM
18-1 to win in normal time. Having some of that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 29, 2020, 06:15:58 PM
I can't see us scoring as many as 18 if I am being honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on February 29, 2020, 06:26:03 PM
                            Reina

Guilbert.       Engels.   Mings.  Targett

                          Nakamba

Elmo.                                   Hourihane
                           Grealish

                            Samatta

Quick maths.

I havenít even had a drink yet!! 😂 Luiz can back in them alongside Nakamba.

I was at the club shop this morning and there three lads there over from Belgium, clubbe Brugge fans, who went to see the game at old traffic on Thursday then came down to villa as we have so many of their ex players. They were absolutely raving about Nakamba, said he was their best player and they looked a bit crestfallen when I said heíd been a bit hit and miss for us.

Hit and miss is being kind. The worst of our signings in my view
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on February 29, 2020, 07:08:25 PM
Staying up was the aim this season.

This has become a bloody distraction.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on February 29, 2020, 07:14:42 PM
Staying up was the aim this season.

This has become a bloody distraction.

We're in a cup final! I'm amazed people can't be happy about it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on February 29, 2020, 07:28:21 PM
Staying up was the aim this season.

This has become a bloody distraction.

We're in a cup final! I'm amazed people can't be happy about it.

We are sleepwalking towards the quagmire of the championship-and likely to lose players we have had an affinity with.

Its depressing as fk
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 29, 2020, 07:34:09 PM
Up to you but find it a bit mad the night before a cup final to be thinking along these lines, thereís every other week of the season to be thinking like that. I hate the idea of going down, losing grealish etc. But if I couldnít get the night before nerves and excitement of a cup final weekend, Iíd be asking myself what the point of it was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 29, 2020, 07:40:05 PM
Need to get tactics spot on tomorrow if we are to have any chance.  Sherwood got it badly wrong in 2015, whereas I remember a Big Ron getting it spot on in 1994 using Graham Fenton in midfield. 

I would personally go 3-5-2, with Grealish being in a more advanced role with Samatta.  None of the midfield options are exactly great, but I would try and shore things up a bit with three in there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 29, 2020, 07:41:42 PM
Need to get tactics spit on tomorrow if we are to have any chance.  Sherwood gig it badly wrong in 2015, whereas I remember a Big Ron getting it spot on in 1994 using Graham Fenton in midfield. 

I would personally go 3-5-2, with Grealish being in a more advanced role with Samatta.  None of the midfield options are exactly grata, but I would try and shore things up a bit with three in there.
Smith needs to make the decision of packing the defence or packing the midfield. Personally I would pack the midfield, why add more defenders who can't defend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: remy on February 29, 2020, 07:56:42 PM
Staying up was the aim this season.

This has become a bloody distraction.

We're in a cup final! I'm amazed people can't be happy about it.

How about being tonked 6-1 by them, they just beat Madrid on their own patch and have £50m players on the bench. Football since our 96 win has gone so lop sided.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 29, 2020, 08:01:16 PM
Staying up was the aim this season.

This has become a bloody distraction.

We're in a cup final! I'm amazed people can't be happy about it.

How about being tonked 6-1 by them, they just beat Madrid on their own patch and have £50m players on the bench. Football since our 96 win has gone so lop sided.

So if somehow we win the cup that means automatic relegation?? No it dosent. Are we likely to win? No. But I tell you something I would rather win the Cup and stay up, if we are not good enough, and it doesnít, at this moment, look like we are, then if we go down, I hope we go down holding a piece of silverware! Come on Villa!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on February 29, 2020, 08:01:40 PM
Jeez hope none of you lot are sitting near us tomorrow - sounds like everyone's already surrendered.

UTV - good luck for tomoz everyone. Bottom 3 winning should inspire us to take the game to City backed by a vocal Villa end. Anything is possible in football. If everything ran to form no one would watch it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 29, 2020, 08:11:28 PM
Belief is key tomorrow from the team and the fans.
Come on Villa let's end our 24 year drought!
UTV!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on February 29, 2020, 09:22:22 PM
God I so hope we win tomorrow just to shut up the fucking moaning minnies and depressives up on this site! I love H&V but boy it can drag you down!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 29, 2020, 09:25:10 PM
If ever we needed a weekend of results to prove anything is possible
Well we just go one
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 29, 2020, 09:44:45 PM
God I so hope we win tomorrow just to shut up the fucking moaning minnies and depressives up on this site! I love H&V but boy it can drag you down!

You're being a bit optimistic there, jwarry. My crystal ball looks a lot like "yes, it's good that we won but, let's face it, we were lucky that they missed so many chances and even Blues have won the League fucking Cup. The players will now be exhausted. Smith needs to answer for this fucking all fart and no shit..."
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on February 29, 2020, 09:45:13 PM
Need to get tactics spit on tomorrow if we are to have any chance.  Sherwood gig it badly wrong in 2015, whereas I remember a Big Ron getting it spot on in 1994 using Graham Fenton in midfield. 

I would personally go 3-5-2, with Grealish being in a more advanced role with Samatta.  None of the midfield options are exactly grata, but I would try and shore things up a bit with three in there.
Smith needs to make the decision of packing the defence or packing the midfield. Personally I would pack the midfield, why add more defenders who can't defend.

I'm not sure any of our midfielders can defend either
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 29, 2020, 10:34:25 PM
God I so hope we win tomorrow just to shut up the fucking moaning minnies and depressives up on this site! I love H&V but boy it can drag you down!

You're being a bit optimistic there, jwarry. My crystal ball looks a lot like "yes, it's good that we won but, let's face it, we were lucky that they missed so many chances and even Blues have won the League fucking Cup. The players will now be exhausted. Smith needs to answer for this fucking all fart and no shit..."

Genius and spot on. Only thing missing.....even Norwich beat man city
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GXVilla on February 29, 2020, 11:25:35 PM
All we can control is making sure we keep up a constant barrage of noise to support our team. Letís show the new plastic Mancs what proper support is. If itís our day then weíll win, but letís make sure that whatever happens we can walk out of the ground as supporters with our heads held high! Donít think weíll beat Wembley 1971, but letís have a go! Come on you Lions!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nordenvillain on March 01, 2020, 12:40:44 AM
All we can control is making sure we keep up a constant barrage of noise to support our team. Letís show the new plastic Mancs what proper support is. If itís our day then weíll win, but letís make sure that whatever happens we can walk out of the ground as supporters with our heads held high! Donít think weíll beat Wembley 1971, but letís have a go! Come on you Lions!
This and let's get into Wembley for when the players are warning up so as to show the players how much it means to us and that we are 100% behind them. A strong performance tomorrow might lead to a strong run in the games to come - And boy after today's results will we need it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on March 01, 2020, 06:28:56 AM
God I so hope we win tomorrow just to shut up the fucking moaning minnies and depressives up on this site! I love H&V but boy it can drag you down!

You're being a bit optimistic there, jwarry. My crystal ball looks a lot like "yes, it's good that we won but, let's face it, we were lucky that they missed so many chances and even Blues have won the League fucking Cup. The players will now be exhausted. Smith needs to answer for this fucking all fart and no shit..."

Donít forget Ďpapering over the cracks.í
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 01, 2020, 07:00:36 AM
Every week we follow
The boys in claret and blue...
Come on Villa boys!
Today is all about the cup and forgetting about the pressures of the league. We have to show we want it more than them as a team and as fans. There's no doubt the committed fans will do their bit. With belief and hard work the team can do their job also. Come on the Villa!!
Sweet Caroline,
Good times never felt so good...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on March 01, 2020, 07:07:08 AM
Putting yesterday aside all we can hope for is a good display.

Good luck to all those travelling down!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 01, 2020, 07:07:15 AM
I reckon that, without wanting to state the obvious, we need to keep this one as tight as we can. The first 30 minutes being crucial.

Then we just pick them off with our passing, as everything just clicks into place at the right time.

2-1 us. Hourihane with the winner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on March 01, 2020, 07:11:21 AM
Agreed Axl. Any early goal or two for them would be disastrous as all belief and hope will escape the fans.

Our support while we are still in the game will be crucial. Play this game 20 times and we will win 1/20 I reckon. After the results the last couple of days letís hope we can continue the trend of the top sides being upset in games that are Ďwalkoversí for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 01, 2020, 08:09:05 AM
After all the doom and gloom of yesterday, feeling a lot better now and looking forward to what might be one of the great days in our great history. Lee Mason's the ref, not one of my favourites, just hope he gives Jack some protection. One thing is certain today the Villa fans will be outshouting the City fans, there's no contest there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: balloubaby on March 01, 2020, 08:09:18 AM
Anyone heading to Swiss Cottage? After pre-match drinks there for the last couple of years am looking forward to popping in and asking for a pint of my usual!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: JD on March 01, 2020, 08:12:51 AM
After all the doom and gloom of yesterday, feeling a lot better now and looking forward to what might be one of the great days in our great history. Lee Mason's the ref, not one of my favourites, just hope he gives Jack some protection. One thing is certain today the Villa fans will be outshouting the City fans, there's no contest there.
Our fans will be outstanding which will lift our team and scare the shit out of ther Man Plastics. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: exigo on March 01, 2020, 08:19:36 AM
Sunny and cold down here in London this morning. Safe travels everybody.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on March 01, 2020, 08:28:59 AM
Plenty of social media rumours (I know I know!) that Louis Barry is in the squad today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on March 01, 2020, 08:29:57 AM
Not woken up this nervous or excited before a Wembley game since United in 94. Come on Villa, we can do this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: JimmyV on March 01, 2020, 08:30:38 AM
COME ON YOU VILLA BOYS.......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: purpletrousers on March 01, 2020, 08:31:40 AM
Sunny and cold down here in London this morning. Safe travels everybody.

Clammy here in Uganda nearing lunchtime & power back on at my brother in laws. Whilst the hotel bar Iím going to watch at might have a back up generator just occurred to me to bring my iPad in case I need a back up. Please make yourself hoarse those on your way, as has been said, I think our extra voice and passion can make a difference.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on March 01, 2020, 08:33:51 AM
At Fareham station. Meeting the Bournemouth Lions at Southampton for trip to Wembley. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on March 01, 2020, 08:47:53 AM
Enjoy your day everyone. Lets get behind them and see what happens. As long as we put effort passion and heart in the performance the fans will be happy.

UTV make us proud tonight
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on March 01, 2020, 09:02:07 AM
Whatever happens today is a day we live for.

Come on you Lions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 01, 2020, 09:03:56 AM
Have a great day everyone. One of the last times this will be worth winning so make it a good un
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on March 01, 2020, 09:11:47 AM
Sing your hearts out Villa boys! Gutted I couldnít get a ticket to be there for this one but Iíll be there in spirit...letís do this!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: nordenvillain on March 01, 2020, 09:15:18 AM
Just left Rochdale on the M62  then M1. Wembley here we come, make us proud you  Villa boys !!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ez on March 01, 2020, 09:35:41 AM
Looking forward to seeing some different players for us today. That's if Smith is good to his word. I'm sure I'll sigh if we're unchanged.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2020, 09:38:24 AM
I have a feeling that a sixteen year old surprise might feature somewhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 01, 2020, 09:44:44 AM
I have a feeling that a sixteen year old surprise might feature somewhere.

That would be brilliant.  Coming off the bench to score the winner!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 01, 2020, 09:45:48 AM
Getting the train in an hour.  Looking forward to seeing lots of people from here this afternoon, come on you Villa boys!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on March 01, 2020, 09:57:45 AM
Some ITK on Twitter says no Louie Barry today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 01, 2020, 10:02:08 AM
Upset the apple cart and fucking win Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on March 01, 2020, 10:14:57 AM
12 Villa fans at Southampton train station. 1 City!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on March 01, 2020, 10:41:46 AM
12 Villa fans at Southampton train station. 1 City!!

He's probably going to the cruise terminal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: balloubaby on March 01, 2020, 10:51:11 AM
My train from Hampton to Waterloo diverted through Whitton. I will take any good omen!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on March 01, 2020, 11:01:20 AM
50 handed leaving Halesowen
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on March 01, 2020, 11:16:22 AM
About to get ready to catch the train in just over an hour.

Have a great day everybody, and you never know...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on March 01, 2020, 11:17:58 AM
Just leaving Villa Park.  I hope we give them a game today and bring home the cup.  Up the Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on March 01, 2020, 11:20:03 AM
So here we are one year on from when it all began against Derby, Jacks return and a thumping 4-0 win. If youíd said to me then weíd be here now I donít think many of us would have predicted it. Anyway hereís to a great day, Up the Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on March 01, 2020, 11:25:59 AM
Never been so nerveless before a game, never mind a trip to Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on March 01, 2020, 11:50:34 AM
Just getting the train now. No other obvious fans on the train. I too am nerveless, itís a free hit today. Battle plan has got to be score late.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on March 01, 2020, 11:52:33 AM
Hopeful for no other reason than listening to Ghost Riders in the Sky and Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie this morning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on March 01, 2020, 11:55:18 AM
To all the travelling Villans today - Stay safe, enjoy your day and sing loud and proud! Hopefully it lasts long into the night! UTV

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on March 01, 2020, 12:01:23 PM
I'm quite annoyed at how devoid of excitement or hope I am.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on March 01, 2020, 12:03:05 PM
I'm quite annoyed at how devoid of excitement or hope I am.

That is not like you, I'm feeling better today than I was yesterday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on March 01, 2020, 12:06:08 PM
I was driving down to Brum and I couldn't even muster annoyance at all the plastics coming down the M6. Save the Warrington Blues mini-bus, those twats need to check mirrors before pulling out.

Haven't bothered with my lucky beer. Ergh this is terrible. Hopefully I shake it off when I get down there. But I just can't help but think we're going to lose by 3 or 4 regardless how well we play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 01, 2020, 12:07:36 PM
I was driving down to Brum and I couldn't even muster annoyance at all the plastics coming down the M6. Save the Warrington Blues mini-bus, those twats need to check mirrors before pulling out.

Haven't bothered with my lucky beer. Ergh this is terrible. Hopefully I shake it off when I get down there. But I just can't help but think we're going to lose by 3 or 4 regardless how well we play.

Have the lucky beer. It's lucky FFS!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on March 01, 2020, 12:12:01 PM
We beat the Noses away, the Albion and Derby. I have a couple of bottles left. Do I drink it later or do I save it for say West Ham last day of the season? Because if I drink it today and we lose, I may be partly responsible for relegating us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on March 01, 2020, 12:12:30 PM
Whatever will be, will be. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: phantom limb on March 01, 2020, 12:13:47 PM
I feel like Iím on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: GarTomas on March 01, 2020, 12:15:37 PM
A game where I hope the younger players in the squad step up or learn from the experience and come back more determined for more.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 01, 2020, 12:15:37 PM
I feel like Iím on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help

Have a couple, mate. I started three hours ago, and there are 4 hours till kick off. Dinner now, more beer, and then the match. In my living room. I'd love to be at Wembley today. Enjoy all. Up the Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 01, 2020, 12:16:02 PM
Whatever will be, will be. UTV

Absolutely, pal. Up the Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on March 01, 2020, 12:16:57 PM
Here you go Ads.... No matter the outcome today or come May... WE ARE ASTON VILLA.

We have the bad times, so that the good times feel even sweeter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAY54jvd8Eg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAY54jvd8Eg)

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Charlie8182 on March 01, 2020, 12:23:54 PM
En route to Wembley, got as far as High Wycombe and seen multitudes of Villa fans but not a single City one, are they actually bringing any support?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on March 01, 2020, 12:25:13 PM
En route to Wembley, got as far as High Wycombe and seen multitudes of Villa fans but not a single City one, are they actually bringing any support?

Highways Agency had signs up on the M6 telling them to go down the M1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 01, 2020, 12:30:35 PM
Here you go Ads.... No matter the outcome today or come May... WE ARE ASTON VILLA.

We have the bad times, so that the good times feel even sweeter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAY54jvd8Eg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAY54jvd8Eg)



I love that video. It gives me goosebumps every time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: phantom limb on March 01, 2020, 12:31:37 PM
I feel like Iím on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help

Have a couple, mate. I started three hours ago, and there are 4 hours till kick off. Dinner now, more beer, and then the match. In my living room. I'd love to be at Wembley today. Enjoy all. Up the Villa!

Sounds like a plan, Iím sure Iíll cheer up when I get there!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2020, 12:34:29 PM
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on March 01, 2020, 12:42:11 PM
Not nervous at all. We ard expected to lose so no pressure really on us.

If we did it its probably surpasses the league cul win against united as citeh are a very very top side. Come on you villains don't let us down 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 01, 2020, 12:43:15 PM
All I ask villa is that every player gives 100 %
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2020, 12:44:42 PM
110%.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 01, 2020, 01:02:21 PM
I feel like Iím on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help

Have a couple, mate. I started three hours ago, and there are 4 hours till kick off. Dinner now, more beer, and then the match. In my living room. I'd love to be at Wembley today. Enjoy all. Up the Villa!

Sounds like a plan, Iím sure Iíll cheer up when I get there!

All.will be ok mate. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on March 01, 2020, 01:36:50 PM
I feel like Iím on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help

Have a couple, mate. I started three hours ago, and there are 4 hours till kick off. Dinner now, more beer, and then the match. In my living room. I'd love to be at Wembley today. Enjoy all. Up the Villa!

Sounds like a plan, Iím sure Iíll cheer up when I get there!

All.will be ok mate. Enjoy!

Sounds like the way to go. Just rewatched the Bradley video (thanks Nii Lamptey) and followed up with the Benjamin Zephaniah one. Now time for a beer.

Wembley Pitch looks fab today over on the Villa Instagram page, they posted a story video.

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: old man villa fan on March 01, 2020, 01:37:45 PM
Bugger, no Tube between Uxbridge and Harrow-on-the-Hill. Should have checked before ☹️. Replacement bus it is, then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on March 01, 2020, 01:54:42 PM
Good luck to everyone involved today, the guys and gals, young and old travelling to Wembley, do us proud no matter what the result, show everyone why we have the classiest fans around. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on March 01, 2020, 02:32:27 PM
What time is teams?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2020, 02:34:01 PM
Should be 3.30.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 01, 2020, 02:36:54 PM
In a pub near Marble Arch.

Going to the ground soon. Looking forward to it and slightly shitting it but then again I think about being in this same pub last season before the play off final when I was significantly more tense about the result.

So fuck it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: ez on March 01, 2020, 02:37:33 PM
Its villa in a cup final. Why am I not excited? This is wrong.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Allan C on March 01, 2020, 02:39:10 PM
Come on Villa  make us proud  we can do this  we can win  we will win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu on March 01, 2020, 02:40:01 PM
Ye Olde Swiss Cottage is full of the usual suspects, I'm told. Have fun, everyone.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 01, 2020, 02:40:43 PM
Drinky to start.  Rumour.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2020, 02:42:00 PM
Drinky to start.  Rumour.

Do you post shit like this on purpose? Cup-tied.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 01, 2020, 02:42:22 PM
Nerves are kicking in here. Don't know what to do with myself until 3.30 when the teams are announced. I hope everybody is prepared for this to go to penalties?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 01, 2020, 02:43:44 PM
Drinky to start.  Rumour.

Do you post shit like this on purpose? Cup-tied.

Some 'wag' obviously winding me up as well.  I think you know me well enough by now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 01, 2020, 02:44:20 PM
Drinky to start.  Rumour.

Naughty boy! You're not helping.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 01, 2020, 02:44:46 PM
I'd like to see Conor get a start in a more compact 5 man midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2020, 02:44:59 PM
Twatter is best avoided until 3.30 when we find out for real.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 01, 2020, 02:45:30 PM
if he is true to his word then Conor would seem a cert to get a start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 01, 2020, 02:46:07 PM
I hope he does.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 01, 2020, 02:59:14 PM
Ye Olde Swiss Cottage is full of the usual suspects, I'm told. Have fun, everyone.

We are.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on March 01, 2020, 03:04:43 PM
Re-watched 1994 and 1996 highlights. How is it so long ago? Feels much more recent.

Come on villa, write yourselves into the history books.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 01, 2020, 03:08:38 PM
We have nothing to lose and all to gain. Nobody expects us to win. But we've seen teams pull off upsets in cup finals, and we've seen pull off upsets as recently as yesterday. It's about desire, and a willingness to want it so much more than your opponent. And that starts with the manager and how he sends the team out. Go out to defend and stand off and we will be taken apart quickly. We have to bite into every single challenge and as Watford did to Liverpool not let them have a moment on the ball. Win this and the energy it will create will be astronomical. It will be something that can help us stay up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on March 01, 2020, 03:10:05 PM
Still be in with a chance at 75 minutes. Don't head in at half time with no reason to come out for the second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on March 01, 2020, 03:14:18 PM
Still be in with a chance at 75 minutes. Don't head in at half time with no reason to come out for the second half.

This is the key.

My prediction, for what it's worth, is that City will come out all guns blazing and snatch an early goal, but we'll hold them at that til HT.

If we come out second half at 0-0 or 1-0 to them I think we'll have a chance to pick things up second half and have a proper go.

My concern is that Smith won't have plans B and C ready. If ever there was a time to change our habit of having little or no game plan, it's today.

But, what will be will be. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on March 01, 2020, 03:15:27 PM
Genius to close the Green to avoid litter and congestion...only to have the same amount of people turn up but block the road instead.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 01, 2020, 03:19:34 PM
Re-watched 1994 and 1996 highlights. How is it so long ago? Feels much more recent.

Come on villa, write yourselves into the history books.

Was funny watching the Pravda interview between Grealish and Andy Townsend with Andy asking Jack whether he remembered either final. I think Jack didn't have the heart to tell him that he hadn't been born for the first one and was a few months old for the '96 final!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on March 01, 2020, 03:25:43 PM
Haha eamonn, Townsend and I both seem to think the 90s aren't as long ago as they are....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 01, 2020, 03:27:52 PM
3 minutes to go..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: bodkins14 on March 01, 2020, 03:28:17 PM
Just had a fiver on Man City first half, Villa the second 90/1. Had to be worth a punt at them odds
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on March 01, 2020, 03:29:10 PM
Iím going to invoke the powers of the 81 shirt...only worn once to a game at the playoff final last year. May the force be with us!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on March 01, 2020, 03:29:35 PM
I was feeling optimistic. Until about 5 mins ago. Now I just donít want us to another ďone of those performancesĒ. Just make us proud today..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 01, 2020, 03:38:01 PM
Engels starting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 01, 2020, 03:39:11 PM
Look at the Man Citeh bench!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Man City League Cup Final Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on March 01, 2020, 03:40:17 PM
De Bruyne on the bench. Back 4 is the one I would have picked. Worried by lack of pace of Elmo on right, but his delivery against the Foxes got us here I guess.
Come on Villa - Effort first, and hopefully the performance will follow! UTV!
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