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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Chipsticks on January 29, 2020, 09:25:40 AM
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Wembley Stadium, Sunday March 1st, 16.30 ko.
Absolutely fantastic to be in a final, credit to how far Deano and the staff have taken us. For context, January last year included 3-0 losses away at Wigan and at home to Swansea in the FA Cup.
Is there any hope that United can overcome City?
Any clues as to when ticket info will be released?
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Revenge for 20 years ago when O Neill came and played with 4 centre backs in the second leg and they overcame us with anti football. I'm just glad to be in the final but i'm not hopeful either way. I thought we'd get battered in the semi though over the 2 legs so you never know.
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Is it to much to hope that United beat City, same as Derby doing Leeds!!
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I'm just delighted to be going back to Wembley. Let's worry about the opposition on the day.
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League Cup Final, hello old friend.
It's coming home.
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The last time we had a League Cup Final on 1st March (1975) it ended well :)
A Villa fan walked into a pub near Wembley Stadium and the bar man said "hello, the usual is it?"
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I'm just delighted to be going back to Wembley. Let's worry about the opposition on the day.
No. Let's let the opposition worry about us on the day.
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Have woken this morning with that comforting glow that we’re off to a Final. This is what being a fan is about.
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Anyone got any Villa Vouchers?
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No, but I'm stocking up on Double Diamond
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I'm having Davenports deliver
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Back in November I booked a family holiday and guess what the flight to Istanbul departs BHX at 11.30 on 1 March :-\
A school boy error because as a supporter of a big club I should have checked out major event dates.
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It's a sign of how things have changed that we regard Man U as easier opponents than Citeh.
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Just so pleased for the lad's especially Dean Smith for two Wembley appearances in two seasons bring it on.
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Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
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Man City have got Real Madrid in the Champions league a few days before the final. Hopefully they'll be knackered & rest a few for the final (assuming they get past Utd).
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Allocations are usually around 33,000 so that'll sort out season ticket holders.
Doesn't leave a lot for the post season ticket holder criteria brackets though.
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Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history. People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that. They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.
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Future quiz question in the making, "Which 2020 cup-winning side knocked out all of that season's top three en route to lifting the trophy?"
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Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history. People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that. They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.
There are a lot of claret members so I think there will be booking history stages, otherwise the demand for 3000 tickets will simpler crash the internet!
The claret members in my family haven’t joined to skip the queue, they’ve done it because otherwise there’s no virtually chance of getting a ticket for any game, let alone Wembley.
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It's a sign of how things have changed that we regard Man U as easier opponents than Citeh.
I don't. I'd rather play Man City.
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Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history. People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that. They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.
There are a lot of claret members so I think there will be booking history stages, otherwise the demand for 3000 tickets will simpler crash the internet!
The claret members in my family haven’t joined to skip the queue, they’ve done it because otherwise there’s no virtually chance of getting a ticket for any game, let alone Wembley.
I joined to ensure a ticket for home games. After all, it was unlikely we would get to Wembley this season. Apparently there are about 8000 Claret members.
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I doubt every season ticket holder will go anyway
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It is possible that Man City might return some of their allocation as some of their fans have become blasé about such things.
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It is possible that Man City might return some of their allocation as some of their fans have become blasé about such things.
Tonight's semi-final was not sold out. Manchester Derby as well.
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True. It was rumoured that they were going to change the name of their stadium to the Emptyhad
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Not one of the 4 semi finals legs sold out.
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That may be the case, but I guarantee references will be passed around
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That may be the case, but I guarantee references will be passed around
It wont go anywhere near to general sale , I'd guess there will be a fair few C&B member that will miss out
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On the day touts will be charging in the region of £150 for tickets for whichever Manc club it is and £250+ for any of ours.
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https://ticketingcontent.thefa.com/Carabao%20Cup%20Final%202020
This gives an idea of what the prices will be at least.
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Allocations are usually around 33,000 so that'll sort out season ticket holders.
Doesn't leave a lot for the post season ticket holder criteria brackets though.
Allocations are usually around 33,000 so that'll sort out season ticket holders.
Doesn't leave a lot for the post season ticket holder criteria brackets though.
Surely all those that invaded the pitch will be banned and fined and stripped of ST as per regulations leaving a few more for us mere claret members ? (Winky/smiley face)
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Man City it is then. Payback time.
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As in the second line of the song, whatever will be will be. We might get a right tonking. We might have one of those days when all the stars aline...
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We'll win on penalties. You heard it here first.
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We'll win on penalties. You heard it here first.
That happened on FIFA on Christmas Day so you could be right.
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Any idea when the club will announce ticket criteria? I have Claret membership with 4 games (plus been to 2 games with no booking history from a friend with season ticket) so a bit concerned that I might not get a ticket. I got playoff final tickets with 6 games booking history over the whole season so hope it won’t be that high this time.
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Leicester had the audacity to beat us 4-1 at home and paid the price. Man City have similar fate awaiting them after their rather rude 6-1 win at VP.
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It's a final. We're in it. We can't do any worse than against Arsenal the other year, can we?
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Any idea when the club will announce ticket criteria? I have Claret membership with 4 games (plus been to 2 games with no booking history from a friend with season ticket) so a bit concerned that I might not get a ticket. I got playoff final tickets with 6 games booking history over the whole season so hope it won’t be that high this time.
I spoke to the club today and they obviously had to wait first to see who the opposition is, then what the allocation is. Only guessing but would think it'll be early next week.
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The kick off time hasn’t even been confirmed yet, has it?
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Sunday 1 March. 4.30pm kick off.
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Don't care, all I know is it's not my turn to drive!
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I reckon it may be Claret members with 5 or 6 first (after Season Tickets) I can't see my one game being enough - I assume that there are no claret members with no matches. Shame as my next game was supposed to be Sheffield United and I won't get to that midweek. I've got Palace booked in the diary. I might have to shell out for Wolves now. I did enjoy that in 2018 mind.
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I'm assuming we'll get the west side of Wembley this year, as the southernmost team. So expect to be piling into the Green Man at 8.45 again.
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Any idea when the club will announce ticket criteria? I have Claret membership with 4 games (plus been to 2 games with no booking history from a friend with season ticket) so a bit concerned that I might not get a ticket. I got playoff final tickets with 6 games booking history over the whole season so hope it won’t be that high this time.
I think cup games will be part of the criteria to qualify for tickets ... I.e C&B member with 7 games of which 2 must be home cup games
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Back in November I booked a family holiday and guess what the flight to Istanbul departs BHX at 11.30 on 1 March :-\
A school boy error because as a supporter of a big club I should have checked out major event dates.
I’ve done the same but will be able to watch as it’s mid trip.
You’ll have touched down in time all being well?
You might need to check out airport bar I reckon!
Taking off at KO time for the 2000 cup final was painful (and a few days of Likeky Lads result avoidance until a VHS arrived, how times have changed!)
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Sunday 1 March. 4.30pm kick off.
City- prepare to meet your doom.
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I'm assuming we'll get the west side of Wembley this year, as the southernmost team. So expect to be piling into the Green Man at 8.45 again.
I'm not sure exactly how it works, but we had the same end for both Fulham and Derby; so any north-south rule didn't come into effect for those matches.
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I think they prefer us west end of the stadium as so many go on Chiltern and can be got away quickly.
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The M40 plays a big factor - Whoever makes most use of the M40 (traveling west out of London) gets the West end. I'm fairly certain we'll have the Green Man again.
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M40 is like our own personal motorway to Wembley. Very farsighted the road planners were back in the day!
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Box Park was good last year as an alternative to the Green. Hope we'll be allocated that again.
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Box Park was good last year as an alternative to the Green. Hope we'll be allocated that again.
I went to Boxpark as well. Had a fab time in there!
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Looks like we've got the west side again.
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Where is this news coming from?
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Where is this news coming from?
Chrisw1 in the post above yours. ☺
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Where is this news coming from?
It's all over twitter
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People have cottoned on that for, £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members.
A minor point but it's £35, not £25.
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It's a sign of how things have changed that we regard Man U as easier opponents than Citeh.
It's a sign of the times had we being playing Man Utd we'd be discussing the Civic Reception Victory Parade rather than tickets and transport.
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Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history. People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that. They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.
'Cottoned on'? It's the entire point of the scheme. What else is it for other than queue avoidance? And fwiw, I don't think anybody got it with no intention of going other than if we made a final.
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Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history. People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that. They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.
'Cottoned on'? It's the entire point of the scheme. What else is it for other than queue avoidance? And fwiw, I don't think anybody got it with no intention of going other than if we made a final.
That's my point. For the two play-off finals it was a fairly little known way to be in with a chance to get a ticket. Pay your 35 quid and trump anybody with a 15 game history.
This season it became more of a necessicity to even get tickets for league games, so loads of people have now got it.
When everyone's super, no one is.
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I think a chunk of Season Ticket holders will look at the costs, who we're playing & decide to sit it out.
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Got 5 games on my history for this season (been to more but they were freebies). Just got a ticket for the Spurs game incase its the same criteria as playoff final.
In previous years it's gone to claret members before ticket history. People have cottoned on that for £25 quid they can skip the queue so we've now got loads of Claret Members, so if they adopt the same policy I can't see it going beyond that. They should probably consider putting in a layer of Claret members with ticket history I guess, but that would go against the key benefit on which Claret Membership was sold.
'Cottoned on'? It's the entire point of the scheme. What else is it for other than queue avoidance? And fwiw, I don't think anybody got it with no intention of going other than if we made a final.
That's my point. For the two play-off finals it was a fairly little known way to be in with a chance to get a ticket. Pay your 35 quid and trump anybody with a 15 game history.
This season it became more of a necessicity to even get tickets for league games, so loads of people have now got it.
When everyone's super, no one is.
Genuine question - who should get a ticket first. A Claret Club member who paid £25 and had attended no games or a non-Claret Club member who’s attended 1 game?
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Ahem. Claret + 1 game. Definitely. No question about it.
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FWIW, as a claret member, for various reasons I can (and only really desire to) get to a limited number of home games, being those played at the traditional time of 3pm on a Saturday, which enables me to enjoy a properly good old fashioned day out in Brum/at the Villa. Without claret membership I would not really be able to do this, which is why I bought it. To be honest, a match at Wembley, even a cup final, is something I think I'd enjoy probably more from the comfort of my own living room than actually being there. As the next couple of weeks go by I may start to feel differently, but I don't think I will.
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Ahem. Claret + 1 game. Definitely. No question about it.
I guess that was my point. I understand Claret Membership has a fee and you can get some benefits (a membership pack when it turns up etc!) but there will be other fans who choose to attend 1 game a season instead for the same price give or take a few quid.
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I doubt many, if any, bought the membership purely for use with a cup final. Plus I think it's likely they'll go through members using a criteria. So for example, ST holders, members with 8 games, members with 3 games, members.
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I doubt many, if any, bought the membership purely for use with a cup final. Plus I think it's likely they'll go through members using a criteria. So for example, ST holders, members with 8 games, members with 3 games, members.
That's he way I see/hope its goes .
TBF they normally get it spot on
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As others have said I got my membership purely for ease of booking league games what with the high number of ST holders this year. For me it was worth it as I knew I’d go to a lot of games but still miss a few making it not worth getting a ST. A Wembley appearance is a bonus!
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So, confirmed as 4.30pm kick off, and we have the West bit.
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"Following the conclusion of the Semi-Finals, Aston Villa and Manchester City will meet in the Carabao Cup Final at Wembley Stadium in a bid to win the first piece of silverware of the season.
The game will take place on Sunday 1 March at Wembley with a confirmed kick-off time of 4:30pm. Aston Villa fans will be housed in the West End of the stadium, with Manchester City occupying the East End.
Manchester City secured a place in their third-straight Carabao Cup Final courtesy of a narrow 3-2 aggregate victory against local rivals Manchester United, whereas Aston Villa made it two trips to the National Stadium in less than 12 months following an enthralling, last-minute winner against Leicester City.
Tickets for the Carabao Cup Final can only be purchased directly from the two finalist Clubs and are not available from either the EFL or from Wembley Stadium."
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Ahem. Claret + 1 game. Definitely. No question about it.
I guess that was my point. I understand Claret Membership has a fee and you can get some benefits (a membership pack when it turns up etc!) but there will be other fans who choose to attend 1 game a season instead for the same price give or take a few quid.
I said that because I'm a Claret Member who has just the one game on his booking history this season (Norwich). ;-)
Now, given that I live as far away from Birmingham as you can get on the French mainland, I can only see myself getting to two or three games in a season. A Claret Membership is worth it for that. I'd understand if one game is not enough for me to buy a League Cup final ticket but if it is then yes please!
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I'm with Bad English. I buy to make sure I can get a few games. I can't get to any except 3pm Saturday and then not many of those. I even miss some of the TV games by not being able to be on the sofa. I originally got my membership to go to the Fulham away game in 2018. Never realised it would get me to Wembley but was glad it did for the last 2 years. I can't imagine members with 1 will get anywhere near this year, but then I didn't expect to see a cup final this year. If I can get a ticket I'll be there with bells on - well a scarf and hat anyway.
If I can't then the sofa is booked and the children will be joining me (they don't like watching on TV much - not as good as going to Villa Park) just as they would be at Wembley.
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As others have said I got my membership purely for ease of booking league games what with the high number of ST holders this year. For me it was worth it as I knew I’d go to a lot of games but still miss a few making it not worth getting a ST. A Wembley appearance is a bonus!
Same here. And it rankled slightly having to join to get tickets for bog standard homes games when there weren’t any issues in the championship. But then, A. We all want the club to be commercially savvy so if they can charge fans more for the same thing based on demand it’s sort of fair enough, and B. Once your get into the whole better fan than yow nonsense it leads nowhere useful.
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Ahem. Claret + 1 game. Definitely. No question about it.
I guess that was my point. I understand Claret Membership has a fee and you can get some benefits (a membership pack when it turns up etc!) but there will be other fans who choose to attend 1 game a season instead for the same price give or take a few quid.
I said that because I'm a Claret Member who has just the one game on his booking history this season (Norwich). ;-)
Now, given that I live as far away from Birmingham as you can get on the French mainland, I can only see myself getting to two or three games in a season. A Claret Membership is worth it for that. I'd understand if one game is not enough for me to buy a League Cup final ticket but if it is then yes please!
To be fair you’re the kind of fan I’m thinking of!
It’s tough as demand will always outstrip supply and how to allocate is not easy.
Not suggesting anyone is more deserving than others but there a lot of fans who can’t get to games for valid reasons who would make the effort. And I guess as someone else pointed out season tickets holders who wouldn’t take up their guaranteed seat based on cost and opposition.
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I’ve been a member since it was introduced as Villa cash, mainly because I can’t make every game especially midweek or games changed by sky, but wanted the chance to go to away games as well as home games. It’s certainly been a worthwhile investment over the years, this year not so much as even ST’s are missing out on away games. I don’t think anyone realistically thought we would be having a Wembley trip this year, but it’s definitely a bonus, hope my 6 game booking history is enough this year, if not, then so be it as I’m sure they will be distributed as fair as possible. UTV
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I’ve been a member since it was introduced as Villa cash, mainly because I can’t make every game especially midweek or games changed by sky, but wanted the chance to go to away games as well as home games. It’s certainly been a worthwhile investment over the years, this year not so much as even ST’s are missing out on away games. I don’t think anyone realistically thought we would be having a Wembley trip this year, but it’s definitely a bonus, hope my 6 game booking history is enough this year, if not, then so be it as I’m sure they will be distributed as fair as possible. UTV
I’d be amazed if Claret members with 6 games didn’t qualify, good luck though.
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Ticket info released on the OS. Though it won't load the page for me.
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Season Ticket holders from 2015/16 - Tues 4th Feb 5.00pm (online)
Season Ticjket holders from 2019/20 - Tues 11th Feb 5.00pm (online)
Claret members - Tues 18th Feb 5.00pm (online)
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Thought they may bring in an attendance layer within Claret members, but that will be a bit of a bun fight.
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From OS
Aston Villa is pleased to confirm ticket information to supporters for the Carabao Cup Final at Wembley Stadium on Sunday 1st March 2020.
The club have been allocated 33,095 tickets for the West End of Wembley, where they will face Manchester City.
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If we've 8k claret members it'll be a bit of a bun fight. I thought you'd need games as well.
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Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them. Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.
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Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.
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Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.
Assuming they exist.
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Not as stringent as I thought it would be but then it’s not that long until the final.
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Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them. Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.
It's a nice little nod to those that kept up their season ticket through the dark times. And that's from someone that's now got to wait thanks to his Johnny-come-lately nephew.
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The ticket prices are astronomical- can see alot of people being put off paying those prices to see us likely get whopped by city in their minds
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Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.
Agreed. No idea why they've done that.
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The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history. I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.
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What are the ticket prices? Can't get the link to work.
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The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history. I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.
It should be as well as, not in place of. Claret Members who have been to a dozen games have invested more than those who have attended none and should be treated as such. At least then everyone can see that it's fair. This way lots of claret members who have been to many games will end up getting disillusioned and may not bother again. We need to keep the regular attendees sweet as we will need them to fill the ground when we expand.
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£100, £90, £72, £56, £40
categories same as for playoff final
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This is a fuckin outrage. Me and my sons have missed two homes out of 15 As Claret members and we’ve got the same chance as someone with a membership who’s been to a tiny number of games.
They should have at least split the members allocation, at eight or more games and under eight games.
You just know the system will crash and people will put tickets in their basket only to find them gone before they can pay.
The usual large scale fuckwittery from the club where tickets are concerned 😡😡😡😡
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The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history. I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.
It should be as well as, not in place of. Claret Members who have been to a dozen games have invested more than those who have attended none and should be treated as such. At least then everyone can see that it's fair. This way lots of claret members who have been to many games will end up getting disillusioned and may not bother again. We need to keep the regular attendees sweet as we will need them to fill the ground when we expand.
Add me to the disillusioned, mate. Not happy one bit!
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The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history. I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.
It should be as well as, not in place of. Claret Members who have been to a dozen games have invested more than those who have attended none and should be treated as such. At least then everyone can see that it's fair. This way lots of claret members who have been to many games will end up getting disillusioned and may not bother again. We need to keep the regular attendees sweet as we will need them to fill the ground when we expand.
It's never been 'as well as' before. Last year a Claret Member could buy ahead of someone with a 15 game history. Whether that's right or wrong it is the way it was. I can see how they feel it would be difficult to change it this time round.
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Clever marketing from the club announcing this now and taking our mind off nil strikers arriving today
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What's the point.
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The whole point of the Claret Menbership is to get you in to buy tickets in place of needing a purchase history. I guess they felt they couldn't change the goalposts now given that was the basis they were historically sold on.
It should be as well as, not in place of. Claret Members who have been to a dozen games have invested more than those who have attended none and should be treated as such. At least then everyone can see that it's fair. This way lots of claret members who have been to many games will end up getting disillusioned and may not bother again. We need to keep the regular attendees sweet as we will need them to fill the ground when we expand.
It's never been 'as well as' before. Last year a Claret Member could buy ahead of someone with a 15 game history. Whether that's right or wrong it is the way it was. I can see how they feel it would be difficult to change it this time round.
Last year Claret Members were more or less guaranteed tickets as we didn't have so many Season Ticket holders.
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Must admit I’m a bit gutted as a claret member who’s only missed a few games in the league.
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Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them. Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.
It's a nice little nod to those that kept up their season ticket through the dark times. And that's from someone that's now got to wait thanks to his Johnny-come-lately nephew.
No it isn’t. Those who stuck with it would have been there in the championship.
The way it’s structured, someone could have deserted on relegation, returned this season and have priority over those who committed in the championship.
Same with the claret and blue members where demand will outstrip availability. It’s just Villa doing what suits them best as usual.
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Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them. Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.
It's a nice little nod to those that kept up their season ticket through the dark times. And that's from someone that's now got to wait thanks to his Johnny-come-lately nephew.
No it isn’t. Those who stuck with it would have been there in the championship.
The way it’s structured, someone could have deserted on relegation, returned this season and have priority over those who committed in the championship.
Same with the claret and blue members where demand will outstrip availability. It’s just Villa doing what suits them best as usual.
The first layer is people who have had a ST uninterupted since 15/16, I just couldn't be bothered to type that bit out.
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Official coach ticket question. My dad and I are eligible in the first window. My step son isnt eligible until the second window.
Can I buy all of our coach tickets together? Will the online system allow me to do that?
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Which clown at the club decided on this ticket criteria? There needs to be a purchase window for Claret members who have been to most of the home games.
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Not sure of the need to split the season ticket holders over 2 dates when we've only got 30k of them. Just makes is a pain in the arse for anybody hoping to book groups.
It's a nice little nod to those that kept up their season ticket through the dark times. And that's from someone that's now got to wait thanks to his Johnny-come-lately nephew.
No it isn’t. Those who stuck with it would have been there in the championship.
The way it’s structured, someone could have deserted on relegation, returned this season and have priority over those who committed in the championship.
Same with the claret and blue members where demand will outstrip availability. It’s just Villa doing what suits them best as usual.
The first layer is people who have had a ST uninterupted since 15/16, I just couldn't be bothered to type that bit out.
That’s fair enough then.
Seems silly to only have 2 criteras though. They have more for a 3000 away allocation.
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My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. I’ve been told that I won’t be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?
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My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. I’ve been told that I won’t be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?
I'd buy the ticket anyway, then try some sort of trade with somebody who wants to take their son/daughter to the match.
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My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. I’ve been told that I won’t be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?
Who's told you that? We had no problems last season.
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This is a fuckin outrage. Me and my sons have missed two homes out of 15 As Claret members and we’ve got the same chance as someone with a membership who’s been to a tiny number of games.
They should have at least split the members allocation, at eight or more games and under eight games.
You just know the system will crash and people will put tickets in their basket only to find them gone before they can pay.
The usual large scale fuckwittery from the club where tickets are concerned 😡😡😡😡
Totally agree, it's a bloody rubbish policy. Loyalty isn't rewarded for members who have attended games.
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My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. I’ve been told that I won’t be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?
I'd say that is correct.
But now demand is a lot higher they will be more stringent & not turn a blind eye as previously.
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My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. I’ve been told that I won’t be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?
Who's told you that? We had no problems last season.
Ticket office this afternoon. Guy sounded flustered though!
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I'm a season ticket holder, my son at Uni in Bristol a Member. He has been to a lot of games but will now have to join the lottery with other members. It should definitely be based on attendance criteria. I will end up giving him my ticket if he doesn't get one.
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My 5 year old grandson, who is a season ticket holder, will not be allowed to go to the final. I’ve been told that I won’t be able to purchase an adult ticket using his ID so his aunt could go instead. Is this correct? Has anyone tried doing this for previous Wembley visits?
Who's told you that? We had no problems last season.
Ticket office this afternoon. Guy sounded flustered though!
If that's the case I wonder if you can buy the child one them upgrade later?
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I understand splitting the ST criteria just so that all 30k don’t crash the system at the same time, but if the figures are correct and we have 8k members for the remaining 3k tickets, it will obviously be unfair on the ones who do miss out as some will have gone to a lot of games. Maybe they are banking on the fact that not all ST’s will claim there ticket
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PRAVDA says you can buy them online or over the phone only
You cant buy them in person from the Ticket Office
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I understand splitting the ST criteria just so that all 30k don’t crash the system at the same time, but if the figures are correct and we have 8k members for the remaining 3k tickets, it will obviously be unfair on the ones who do miss out as some will have gone to a lot of games. Maybe they are banking on the fact that not all ST’s will claim there ticket
Certainly not all claret members will claim their ticket - still, stupid to have this as a free for all though!
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There's no system to please everyone.
Being a Claret member gives priority over someone who isn't, that was the deal.
It may make people think again, but with the demand for tickets increasing, I suspect the system won't change.
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There will be a number of season ticket holders who can’t/don’t want to go for whatever reason and the same with claret members. If there are 8000 claret members I’d be surprised if the majority who wanted one didn’t get a ticket.
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Maybe it's why we did the decent thing in abstaining from that FA Cup thingy this year. Imagine the club trying to sort that out!
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There was no difference between the kids and adult tickets for the play off final and no one checking on the turnstiles.
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There is a fourth criteria on the list for ppl with 3+ games so may be they think there’s a chance for those that don’t have Claret membership...or just giving non Claret members false hope.
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I also think season ticket holders in the cup scheme should have some sort of priority as well.
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There was no difference between the kids and adult tickets for the play off final and no one checking on the turnstiles.
I know someone who bought a kids ticket off a tout and got in no problem.
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I also think season ticket holders in the cup scheme should have some sort of priority as well.
All season ticket holders will get a ticket if they want one. It's about not crashing the system. Two weeks to get your ticket in before Members sale. The members sale will be manic.
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There's a lot of it's not fair comments. I would love to go to more games but can't. I was going to go to the Sheffield United game but that's out now. Living in London, it would be great to get to some away games down here, but as a non season ticket holder I have no chance. That's the way it works. I don't complain about it, I just take my chances when I can. If I can get a ticket for the final I will, if I can't I'll watch on TV. Atmosphere isn't as good but at least its warm, the food and drink are cheaper and I won't have to queue at Wembley Park afterwards!
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Makes no odds to me as I won't be going but it's obviously unfair that someone that is a claret member and done 10 games this season could miss out on a ticket while a claret member that has been to no games gets one.
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Are there any members with no games. It seems a waste of money to me. It's not like you get anything for your 35 quid apart from the ability to buy tickets first. The kids do better. They both like the ball anyway!
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Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.
Assuming they exist.
I know of at least one. He lives in America, and bought a membership knowing that he'd need it for any weekend he travelled back home wanting to get a game in.
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Seems a bit odd (unfair) that Claret members with zero games get the same treatment as those with a ticketing history.
Assuming they exist.
I know of at least one. He lives in America, and bought a membership knowing that he'd need it for any weekend he travelled back home wanting to get a game in.
I have a mate that lives in America that does the same. Coming from Atlanta he's managed to do 5 homes this season and Watford and Burnley away.
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Makes no odds to me as I won't be going but it's obviously unfair that someone that is a claret member and done 10 games this season could miss out on a ticket while a claret member that has been to no games gets one.
It's not obvioulsy unfair in my view. Or no more so than a Claret Member getting tickets ahead of people with 15 games last year at least. t's the basis Claret Memeberships have worked for the last few years and the basis they were sold on this year as Drummond says. Changing the goalposts now would be unfair.
If it was made clear there would be a loyalty tier system before they sell Claret memberships next year, then that will be fair.
Personally I think they should probbaly scratch Claret Memberships next year, but that's another issue.
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Good effort that.
There was a Southampton fan, still might be, that was a season ticket holder that flew to every home game from New York.
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I am a claret member and have been to 3 games at VP this season. I hope to get to 2 more this season if, that is, we have as many as 2 games being played at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon. I may be wrong, but I would kind of hope and expect that a claret member who has attended as many as 12 games at VP will have the 'momentum' needed to acquire a ticket for the final. For me personally, as a claret member, were I to be given the choice of a ticket to the league cup final or a ticket to Villa v Sheffield United I would choose the Villa v Sheffield United game; and I for one don't anticipate wanting to apply for a ticket to the final.
If nothing else, I hope that meandering post will give the 12 game or so claret members a bit of cause for optimism of getting a ticket to the final.
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Good effort that.
There was a Southampton fan, still might be, that was a season ticket holder that flew to every home game from New York.
Clearly had far too much money.
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Yeah he can't have been short of a bob or two. Some level of dedication though.
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It should be done on games attended, I have done 5 home games and expect to do a few more, I will apply for a Final Ticket but won’t be too concerned if I don’t get one. I am still recovering from the Arsenal.
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Are there any members with no games. It seems a waste of money to me. It's not like you get anything for your 35 quid apart from the ability to buy tickets first. The kids do better. They both like the ball anyway!
Probably is, one thing is for sure, there'll be plenty that have done 0-2, and they have the same chance of a ticket as those that have done a dozen at home and 8 aways. I don't see how anyone can think that's fair.
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Blimey, there's some low opinions of fellow supporters on here.
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Rogers Official complaint to the Referees about the Nakambahandball, “ the clearest handball you’ll ever see” he also wants clarification.
What a twat.
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Rogers Official complaint to the Referees about the Nakambahandball, “ the clearest handball you’ll ever see” he also wants clarification.
What a twat.
Dear Mr Rogers,
Thank you for your recent enquiry. To clarify, we don't think it was handball.
Regards,
The FA
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Good effort that.
There was a Southampton fan, still might be, that was a season ticket holder that flew to every home game from New York.
I have vague recollections of a story on the TV in the 1980s of a Dutchman who drove over from Holland to every Stoke home game.
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Man City have Cat 1-5 tickets but also sell the £125 and £150 club Wembley seats as seats only (premium 1 and 2). Any idea how we sell our club Wembley seats?
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Man City have Cat 1-5 tickets but also sell the £125 and £150 club Wembley seats as seats only (premium 1 and 2). Any idea how we sell our club Wembley seats?
I’d imagine they’ll go to the Corporate customers won’t they?
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Are there any members with no games. It seems a waste of money to me. It's not like you get anything for your 35 quid apart from the ability to buy tickets first. The kids do better. They both like the ball anyway!
Probably is, one thing is for sure, there'll be plenty that have done 0-2, and they have the same chance of a ticket as those that have done a dozen at home and 8 aways. I don't see how anyone can think that's fair.
I don’t think its fair and I can’t actually imagine claret members in the 0-2 bracket actually claiming it was unfair if they were told claret members with more games had priority over them. They are only in a mad bunfight with less than a half chance anyway!
On the positive side - of the 3 claret members in my family, only one of them might try for tickets so on that sample maybe they’ll be a lot less than 8000 trying.
My Dad had his so I could get him a ticket for the Southampton game, but he hates stairs so he won’t go to Wembley. My nephew is a cub and loves going to Villa Park but the Wembley experience would be wasted on him as yet.
I think there are a lot who can only get to one or 2 games because they live a distance away and may not be going for tickets.
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I suppose Man City go there that often the corporates don’t sell so well. I imagine there’ll be a lot more Villa in club Wembley
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I suppose Man City go there that often the corporates don’t sell so well. I imagine there’ll be a lot more Villa in club Wembley
One touting site has our tickets starting at £235 and theirs at £80.
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In 2010 tout tickets in the Manure end were at least half the price of ones in the Villa end.
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I should point out to be on the safe side that I am not in any way knocking people who do 1-2 (for example) games, just that i'm a firm believer that the more games a person does the higher up the priority list they should be. To me that's the fairest way.
I'll also say I don't have a dog in this fight as for personal reasons I have done 0 games this season, and won't be trying to get a ticket. But if i'd bought a membership i'd think it was unfair that I had the same chance of getting a ticket having done 0 games as someone that's done most of the games.
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Anyone who buys a membership at the start of any season just in the hope of getting a cup final ticket deserves one for blind optimism.
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What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? It’s hard I think to call.
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What if someone from Europe gets to 4
Joey Tempest can afford to do more games.
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What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? It’s hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!
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The fairest system would be for them to give all the tickets to me for free and then I sell them to the highest bidder.
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The first cup game with them was in 1900.
We drew at theirs and then won the replay at Villa Park 3-0.
Billy Garraty (Jacks Great Grandad) scored two of the goals.
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I suppose Man City go there that often the corporates don’t sell so well. I imagine there’ll be a lot more Villa in club Wembley
One touting site has our tickets starting at £235 and theirs at £80.
A mate of mine knows a tout and it’s all about supply and demand. This may well be our fifth trip to Wembley in 5 Years but Man City are well above that. IIRC they had trouble shifting tickets for the more glamorous F.A. Cup final so we should probably be more keen than them to get tickets, despite the expected result.
Despite their success they are still primarily a club with local support, just like us. I don’t thinkthey are yet challenging Liverpool Manyoo or Arsenal for global supremacy
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Personally I think they should probbaly scratch Claret Memberships next year, but that's another issue.
Given FFP and the apparent need to generate our own income, it seems hard to imagine they’d turn down the chance to create 1/4 million £.
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Are there any members with no games. It seems a waste of money to me. It's not like you get anything for your 35 quid apart from the ability to buy tickets first. The kids do better. They both like the ball anyway!
Probably is, one thing is for sure, there'll be plenty that have done 0-2, and they have the same chance of a ticket as those that have done a dozen at home and 8 aways. I don't see how anyone can think that's fair.
You've changed your tune since the beginning of the season!!
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Don't think I have, i've always thought it should be priority for those that go to the most games.
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As everyone has moaned about claret members getting the 2nd dibs at tickets for the just few years, you would have thought that by now everyone knew the score and would get one, £35 is hardly out of the reach of people who go to games regularly. If any claret members only got it for a Wembley ticket, it is deserved for the optimism
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I think it was 2015 when membership became a noticeable advantage, back then it was Villa Cash.
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If last summer you managed to battle through to getting a membership and then decided to only use it in the event of a cup final, hats off to you for your tenacity and optimism.
Personally, if I was going to change it, first dibs would be amongst 30,000 that went to the Wolves game and the 25,000 that turned up for Liverpool in the competition that we've now reached the final of.
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What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? It’s hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!
I understand that and you are right. But I sometimes think that fans who travel a long distance, should get some kind of acknowledgement, I take a 30 minute train journey, not a six hour drive.
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I got a membership because it gives me a chance of getting a ticket. I've got one game in this season and I'm going to another in April. I need two tickets and I'm going to try and get one on my membership and hope someone else can get hold of one for me. I put that in bold so you'd all see it better. ;-)
I wouldn't moan if they made up a Cup final rule about number of games on your reference for a ticket. But they haven't so may luck be upon you!
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What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? It’s hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!
I understand that and you are right. But I sometimes think that fans who travel a long distance, should get some kind of acknowledgement, I take a 30 minute train journey, not a six hour drive.
I've done 5,339 miles so far this season, and even I don't think that would be a way fair to do it.
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I think most claret members who want one will probably get one. There could well be a 1,000 or so ST holders who don’t tale up a ticket and there will be plenty of claret members who don’t. It will be tight, but if your a claret you’ve got a good chance
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I think most claret members who want one will probably get one. There could well be a 1,000 or so ST holders who don’t tale up a ticket and there will be plenty of claret members who don’t. It will be tight, but if your a claret you’ve got a good chance
I'm not so sure on that. I would think most season ticket holders would know somebody who'd want to go if they couldn't and would take their ticket.
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Yeah, maybe. Still, not all claret members so odds will be better than 3 in 8
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What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? It’s hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!
So Randy Lerner should be front of the queue?
The rules of Claret membership were clear at the start of the season, you can't look to change them now we've reached a final.
Also why don't those with claret membership and 12 home league matches just buy a ST at the start of the season?
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Been a season ticket holder since 1989, hopefully they will have the correct records for everyone who has had one since 2015, I do worry that I will apply next week and be told that I have not had a season ticket for the correct amount of time!
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What if someone from Devon or Scotland or Europe (remember that) gets to 4, but someone from Selly Oak does 6, who deserves a ticket more? It’s hard I think to call.
The one with most games , as theyve put more money into the club.
Should always be , season ticket holders & then on home games attended .
That's the simplest & fairest way to do it ... reward loyalty!
So Randy Lerner should be front of the queue?
The rules of Claret membership were clear at the start of the season, you can't look to change them now we've reached a final.
Also why don't those with claret membership and 12 home league matches just buy a ST at the start of the season?
1, Yes that's exactly what I meant
2, what rules ?
3, Peoples circumstances change/dictate not being able to buy a season ticket at the time they were on sale ?
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The tickets are very expensive. Alot of people will not pay those prices to see us likely lose and possibly heavily.
I think there will be a lot of avaialbility for claret members to be honest
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The tickets are very expensive. Alot of people will not pay those prices to see us likely lose and possibly heavily.
I think there will be a lot of avaialbility for claret members to be honest
That’s the spirit.
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What's the point, we're going to get battered beyond embarrassment anyway
just trying to help in putting people off...
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The tickets are very expensive. Alot of people will not pay those prices to see us likely lose and possibly heavily.
I think there will be a lot of avaialbility for claret members to be honest
We'll sell out comfortably. Man City wont.
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I am a claret member and been to 7 home games. I am not expecting to get a ticket.
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It's never been harder to get a ticket down the Villa. Every league game has been 40k plus and not a single away game has reached general sale.
We're in a final, it doesn't matter who we are playing or how much it costs, we haven't forgot who we are. This is in contrast to our opponents who sent tickets back for the semi final of the FA Cup and didn't sell out the League Cup game.
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I am a claret member and been to 7 home games. I am not expecting to get a ticket.
How fast is your internet? Cos that's what it'll probably come down to.
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there's a seat near me that no one ever sits in, for about maybe 8 years. We've enquired about it in the past trying to get it for friends etc. apparently someone down south keeps renewing. Surely the best way to secure a Wembley ticket :D
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I think most claret members who want one will probably get one. There could well be a 1,000 or so ST holders who don’t tale up a ticket and there will be plenty of claret members who don’t. It will be tight, but if your a claret you’ve got a good chance
I'm not so sure on that. I would think most season ticket holders would know somebody who'd want to go if they couldn't and would take their ticket.
You might want to revaluate that. According to AVFC support on Twitter, there are 28000 club members.
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If that's the case then either there's a lot who haven't been this year or not many who have been ro multiple matches. Also no surprise they were overwhelmed at the start of the season.
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there's a seat near me that no one ever sits in, for about maybe 8 years. We've enquired about it in the past trying to get it for friends etc. apparently someone down south keeps renewing. Surely the best way to secure a Wembley ticket :D
The bloke who has the seat two away from me probably only attends one game in three.
He never resells it or offers the seat to others in our section. If he's not there, it just sits empty.
This has been going on since the new TR was built
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I really don't see us having 28k members.
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I really don't see us having 28k members.
Probably over half of those are kids
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I really don't see us having 28k members.
Either do i. 28k members and 30k st holders no chance.
No hope of winningvthis with garbage performances like today
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I think most claret members who want one will probably get one. There could well be a 1,000 or so ST holders who don’t tale up a ticket and there will be plenty of claret members who don’t. It will be tight, but if your a claret you’ve got a good chance
I'm not so sure on that. I would think most season ticket holders would know somebody who'd want to go if they couldn't and would take their ticket.
You might want to revaluate that. According to AVFC support on Twitter, there are 28000 club members.
oh, for some reason I thought it was 8,000. Yeah, if it's 28,000 you're all fucked ;-)
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there's a seat near me that no one ever sits in, for about maybe 8 years. We've enquired about it in the past trying to get it for friends etc. apparently someone down south keeps renewing. Surely the best way to secure a Wembley ticket :D
The bloke who has the seat two away from me probably only attends one game in three.
He never resells it or offers the seat to others in our section. If he's not there, it just sits empty.
This has been going on since the new TR was built
Met a fella at the test match in Mt Maunganui once of Redditch and who lives in Hong Kong - keeps his ST and makes max 3 games a season
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
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I think it is a bit optimistic to assume that a decent number of season ticket holders won't buy a ticket. I haven't heard a single one say they won't go.
There will obviously be a few who can't make it for whatever reason but I would bet that they have a friend / family member who can!
If I couldn't make it I know for a fact that I would pass my ticket on to someone.
I have a mate who lives in Yorkshire and he has a Claret membership. He did that to try and get tickets for games and he has travelled down to a few this season. He is hopeful of getting a final ticket and good luck to him.
It will be a scramble for the remaining 3000 or so and good luck to all!
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
You're not going then?
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
Really ??
Most tickets will be sold before we play again - we haven't got a game for 2 weeks!
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
You're not going then?
Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.
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I booked my travel yesterday. Really not sure if I'll get tickets as a member but if I don't there's a few of us in the same boat so can watch together somewhere in the smoke.
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I booked my travel yesterday. Really not sure if I'll get tickets as a member but if I don't there's a few of us in the same boat so can watch together somewhere in the smoke.
Similar here - booked hotel but everything else depends on ticket and my health at the time - watched the play off final in the Arch Pub - it was mayhem
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
You're not going then?
Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.
Don't bother.
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
You're not going then?
Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.
Don't bother.
Why ? Care to ellaborate?
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
You're not going then?
Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.
Don't bother.
Why ? Care to ellaborate?
You've moaned constantly about how we're going to lose, and how expensive the tickets are. Let someone go who might enjoy themselves.
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I hope all the moaners and wingers don't go. Just leave it for the fans who will support the team whatever the score and not turn on players and management who are trying their best, even if a bit limited in their ability
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I really don't see us having 28k members.
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Pretty remarkable numbers, though I wonder how many are cubs. I wonder where the 8k came from, only 20k out :o
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
You're not going then?
Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.
Don't bother.
Why ? Care to ellaborate?
You've moaned constantly about how we're going to lose, and how expensive the tickets are. Let someone go who might enjoy themselves.
So expressing a opinion that i think we will lose as its city and pointing out that the wembley prices seem a bit steep (as others have said in him on other sites and all over villa groups on facebook) in your view should stay away from Wembley?
How utterly bizarre. Your not in charge of selling tickets thankfully so you telling people who disagree with your opinion should stay away is irrelevent.
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Aren't the prices the same as the playoff final?
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
You're not going then?
Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.
Don't bother.
Why ? Care to ellaborate?
You've moaned constantly about how we're going to lose, and how expensive the tickets are. Let someone go who might enjoy themselves.
So expressing a opinion that i think we will lose as its city and pointing out that the wembley prices seem a bit steep (as others have said in him on other sites and all over villa groups on facebook) in your view should stay away from Wembley?
How utterly bizarre. Your not in charge of selling tickets thankfully so you telling people who disagree with your opinion should stay away is irrelevent.
You have your opinion, I have mine.
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If we see consistent shit like today leading up to final i dont think it will be that hard to get a ticket
You're not going then?
Havent decided yet. Been to both play off finals, wembley vs liverpool and the final vs arsenal which wasnt fun.
Don't bother.
Why ? Care to ellaborate?
You've moaned constantly about how we're going to lose, and how expensive the tickets are. Let someone go who might enjoy themselves.
Seconded.
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I'm definitely going to enjoy going to Wembley for a Cup Final watching the team I love and I reckon we have a chance to beat Man City always have faith in the team you support other wise what's the use of watching football if you have no faith or belief in them.
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I'm with Darren. We aren't some non-league team there for a day out, we are Aston fucking Villa, FFS. Of course we are underdogs, but we were in 1887, 1913, 1957, 1982 and 1994 too. And the semi-final, come to think of it.
We have a chance. Let's fucking go for it and give them something to worry about.
If you can't bring yourself to attend a final because you're scared of losing you may as well get a different hobby.
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I'm with Darren. We aren't some non-league team there for a day out, we are Aston fucking Villa, FFS. Of course we are underdogs, but we were in 1887, 1913, 1957, 1982 and 1994 too. And the semi-final, come to think of it.
We have a chance. Let's fucking go for it and give them something to worry about.
If you can't bring yourself to attend a final because you're scared of losing you may as well get a different hobby.
Not sure if that was directed at me but just vecause i dont think we will win does not mean i wont go. I mean we were not fancied vs arsenal and i atill went depsute the ghumping we recieved.
There are bigger arseholes selling tickets for £500+ if you go on some villa groups on fb. Those are the kknd of people not welcome for me.
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Just bloody go, stop making out you may not, because you will, and we’ll put a smile on that face of yours too. Up the Villa!
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If you can't bring yourself to attend a final because you're scared of losing you may as well get a different hobby.
A family member of mine has had a season ticket at the Albion for as long as I can remember.
He watched the play off semi final 2nd leg at home however as he couldn’t bear the thought of actually being there if they got knocked out by Villa.
I still can’t quite believe it either.
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If you can't bring yourself to attend a final because you're scared of losing you may as well get a different hobby.
A family member of mine has had a season ticket at the Albion for as long as I can remember.
He watched the play off semi final 2nd leg at home however as he couldn’t bear the thought of actually being there if they got knocked out by Villa.
I still can’t quite believe it either.
What a epic game that was. I was there the scenes
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can we have Shakira and J-lo for the half time entertainment at Wemberlee
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I am looking forward to a brilliant day out, lets go there and win!
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I am looking forward to a brilliant day out, lets go there and win!
Amen brother
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Tom Hanks thinks we've already won so that'll do for me.
https://news.sky.com/story/tom-hanks-mocked-over-tweet-celebrating-aston-villas-carabao-cup-win-11924551
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Good effort that.
There was a Southampton fan, still might be, that was a season ticket holder that flew to every home game from New York.
Clearly had far too much money.
Quite a carbon footprint too!
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Any news on tickets?
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Any news on tickets?
In what way mate ???
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Tom Hanks thinks we've already won so that'll do for me.
https://news.sky.com/story/tom-hanks-mocked-over-tweet-celebrating-aston-villas-carabao-cup-win-11924551
Can you ask him if we stayed up? I’m dying to know.
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As a claret member with a small booking history this year, I also think it’s a bit crap that we’re in the mix with people who have been to a lot more games than us and I wouldn’t have had any issues if it had been a combination of history and membership.
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Club shop selling half and half scarves. We laughed at Blues for doing that ffs.
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God forbid that the Villa should sell something that people want to buy.
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Are you practicing for 'defend the indefensible' on R5 Fighting Talk?
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They're not for me at all but I dont have any issue with us selling them for cup finals.
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God forbid that the Villa should sell something that people want to buy.
Why not go the whole hog then and start selling Liverpool and Man U merchandise for when they come to town?
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I blame the evil people who purchase these items rather than the sellers.
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Oh I do like this site.
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The only legitimate use for a half and half scarf is as a makeshift noose for anyone who wants to wear one.
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I'm hoping I'll want to buy one afterwards as a lasting memento of a glorious day.
Here's a thought. Maybe we're selling them as something for our ticketly-disappointed masses to wear 'incognito' in the east end of the ground...
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We have too many fans for our ground, this should be used to thin the numbers a bit. Anyone who buys one gets banned from Villa Park.
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God forbid that the Villa should sell something that people want to buy.
Why not go the whole hog then and start selling Liverpool and Man U merchandise for when they come to town?
Might it have something to do with the fact that Manchester City aren't coming to town and we're playing then in a cup final?
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Nothing wrong with selling a Villa Cup Final scarf. I see no need to mention the opposition.
Did they sell half and half scarves with Fulham or Derby on them? I doubt it. Makes us look like a small-time bunch of daytrippers.
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Pretty sure we did them for the Arsenal final. I can't stand half and half scarves but there's obviously some that do so it seems logical that it's the club that takes their money rather than those selling outside the ground.
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When I was a nipper, I'd hoover up anything to do with a game. Kids today won't be any different.
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If it said mentioned Aston Villa and the League Cup Final, it would still be about the game, wouldn't it?
I'm pretty sure 13 year old me would have wanted nothing to do with a half Villa/half Man U scarf for the 94 Final.
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Pretty sure we did them for the Arsenal final. I can't stand half and half scarves but there's obviously some that do so it seems logical that it's the club that takes their money rather than those selling outside the ground.
They did. And for the semi against Liverpool.
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If it said mentioned Aston Villa and the League Cup Final, it would still be about the game, wouldn't it?
I'm pretty sure 13 year old me would have wanted nothing to do with a half Villa/half Man U scarf for the 94 Final.
And there's plenty that would have. Isn't it better that it's the club that gets the money for them rather than the sellers outside the ground?
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Pretty sure we did them for the Arsenal final. I can't stand half and half scarves but there's obviously some that do so it seems logical that it's the club that takes their money rather than those selling outside the ground.
They did. And for the semi against Liverpool.
Yeah I posted pics of them after seeing them in the shop in town. Doing semi final scarves was a bit small time. But again, I suppose as there's people that like them the club may as well have their money.
Personally I think they should illegal and anyone buying one sent to Siberia.
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Mind you, if they were in Siberia they'd just buy half and half scarves of the splendidly named, FC Tom Tomsk.
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Presumably in Siberia fussiness over scarves isn't that much of a thing.
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Half and half scarves, with the big question being, is CD brave enough to click the link?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySvuolhlB7g
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No chance.
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If it said mentioned Aston Villa and the League Cup Final, it would still be about the game, wouldn't it?
I'm pretty sure 13 year old me would have wanted nothing to do with a half Villa/half Man U scarf for the 94 Final.
And there's plenty that would have. Isn't it better that it's the club that gets the money for them rather than the sellers outside the ground?
I'd rather the club arranged for death squads to deal with those selling such abominations outside the ground.
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Any news on tickets?
In what way mate ???
Not been around on this site or AVFC for a few days so was looking for some news on sale dates but have found the info on AVFC official. Can buy tickets 5pm Tuesday😊
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No chance.
You know you want to.
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I am with cdbwf abominations
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IMO the only time half and half scarves are acceptable are for big European or International games. I have ones from Villa v Ajax, Hamburg v Villa and Germany v England.
They look good as souvenirs however it is NEVER acceptable to actually wear one.
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Do i recall seeing half and half Celtic Rangers hats in the Holte end in the 80's? I definitely rember the chants but pretty sure there were hats too.
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There were half Villa/half Celtic and half Villa/half Rangers hats at the time. Not half Celtic/half Rangers. Not sure if that's what you meant.
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IMO the only time half and half scarves are acceptable are for big European or International games. I have ones from Villa v Ajax, Hamburg v Villa and Germany v England.
They look good as souvenirs however it is NEVER acceptable to actually wear one.
If Villa ever played Bristol Rovers in the FA Cup final, I'd buy a H&H for that one
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There were half Villa/half Celtic and half Villa/half Rangers hats at the time. Not half Celtic/half Rangers. Not sure if that's what you meant.
Yeah that sounds right. It's odd that there seemed to be a fascination with Scottish football at the time. Nobody gives a shite now. Can you imaine hearing Celtic ... Rangers... chanted on the Holte now?
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Ski hats. Very cool with casuals in the early 80s. I had half Celtic/half Villa one.
Sherlock Holmes/ Deputy Dawg- style deer stalker hats were also favoured by the football fashionistas at the time. Think I’ve still got mine somewhere....
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We realkg are not fancied are we. Looking at odds we are as far as 8/1 to win. Might stick a tenner on
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Ski hats. Very cool with casuals in the early 80s. I had half Celtic/half Villa one.
Sherlock Holmes/ Deputy Dawg- style deer stalker hats were also favoured by the football fashionistas at the time. Think I’ve still got mine somewhere....
At the semi final last Tuesday I saw someone wearing one of these
https://footballbobbles.com/product/platt-bobble-hat/
The hats on that website are new but I have vague recollections of there been an official Villa bobble hat with the mita copiers logo on it at that time. Or did I imagine the whole thing?
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We realkg are not fancied are we. Looking at odds we are as far as 8/1 to win. Might stick a tenner on
I hope Damo has a tenner on Man City.
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It seems they have now changed the criteria for C&B members.
Hats off to the club if true .
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Yep, they've bought in an 8 games and a 5 games tiers.
Whilst I agree this is fairer overall, I'm not sure they should have changed the goalposts from the last few years without making this clearer.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/01/31/ticket-information-carabao-cup-final
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/01/31/ticket-information-carabao-cup-final
(https://www.avfc.co.uk/-/media/02_Ticketing/Sales-dates-updated.ashx?la=en&hash=781CAE68157C70981E86A692035C412E236C4000)
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Makes more sense. Fair play to the club for making the change.
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Interesting.
They've struggled with the claret memberships this year, in some cases not even sending the cards out until 6 or 7 months after purchase.
Imo they continue to do so.
Changing the goalposts now, will obviously impact on some people. This decision should have been made when ticket details were 1st announced. Also I would suggest something in the t/c's when claret memberships were bought last summer (eg "in the event of reaching a cup final claret/cub members who have attended the most games in 2019/20 will get priority..etc etc) might have been in order so claret/cub members could have ensured they reached a certain number of games to improve their chances depending on individual circumstances.
Obvs the claret/cub members with 5+ and esp 8+ games will be happier in regards to their chances of getting a cup final ticket.
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Meanwhile, Man City have about 20 different criteria tiers.
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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/01/31/ticket-information-carabao-cup-final
(https://www.avfc.co.uk/-/media/02_Ticketing/Sales-dates-updated.ashx?la=en&hash=781CAE68157C70981E86A692035C412E236C4000)
My only objection to this after 5 they should have a booking history Claret and blue this year then members only.
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FFS! Bollocks! Wank! Fuckity fuck! (Fair enough to those who have 8 or 5 games, obviously).
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8, 5, 3, 1 would have made more sense imo. Although maybe a reason for only 2 criteria is so that those with 0-2 all have a chance of a ticket, making the membership purchase worthwhile.
Imagine the fun if we keep up this level of ST sales and make the FA Cup final when there's less tickets than ST holders.
Here's the Man City criteria
https://tickets.mancity.com/en-GB/shows/aston%20villa%20v%20manchester%20city/events/2
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Or if we make the Europa League Final... UEFA tend to give each club about twelve tickets each. Probably won't have to worry about that too much just yet, though.
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The new criteria rules me out then...4 games plus 2 on a friends season ticket when he couldn’t make it. Good luck to those that get tickets and make some noise for me at Wembley.
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Well done to the club for listening to the fans and changing the criteria as this is much fairer, there will always be people who are disappointed, probably me included as I only have a 6 game history, but it rewards people who have been plenty of games
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Just spoke to the ticket office to check how many home games I have been to, answer 7. The guy I spoke to reckons that all the Wembley tickets will have gone by the time I am allowed to try and get tickets. Fair play though to the club for giving priority to those who attend the most games.
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Booked. Rather impressed with how seamless it was.
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Boom!!! Four tickets sorted by 5.15pm in block 133, Row 39, directly behind goal. At GT has said, for once it was easy!
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we will obviously sell out but I reckon there will be loads available if you really want to go
if we got 33k and City got 33k that leaves another 23/24k floating about somewhere plus City will struggle to sell out anyways
it won’t be top priority for all those corporates and club Wembley’s
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I was also expecting a bracket for ST holders that have been to the League Cup games this season, too. Thought those people should be rewarded.
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Your queue number: 6999
Number of users in queue ahead of you: 2861
Your estimated wait time is: 18 minutes
Status last updated: 17:24:02
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My confirmation email says "Playoff Final" in the title and graphics header - I enjoyed it the first time but don't think I could go through the stress again.
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My confirmation email says "Playoff Final" in the title and graphics header - I enjoyed it the first time but don't think I could go through the stress again.
Ha, hadn't even noticed in my excitement!
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My confirmation email says "Playoff Final" in the title and graphics header - I enjoyed it the first time but don't think I could go through the stress again.
Ha, hadn't even noticed in my excitement!
I had to recheck the seat details just to make sure I hadnt booked a game in the past in error. TBF we seem to play there so often, it's hard remembering what for this time!
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My confirmation email says "Playoff Final" in the title and graphics header - I enjoyed it the first time but don't think I could go through the stress again.
When copy and paste goes wrong!
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All booked and really happy.
I got 1759 in the random queue allocation but Jane totally lucked out with 154! We got exactly the seats we wanted - can’t wait!
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That's me not going then.
I've been to 8 games so far this season but my son because of work commitments has only been to 5, we both went to 16 home games last season.
It'll be the first time I've never been to a Villa Wembley appearance since my first visit in the League Cup Final in 1971 after being a season ticket holder since 1975-76 until 2012.
I think the Claret Membership has been massively over subscribed, maybe it would've been better to limit the membership as it has given a lot of people the impression, wrongly of course, that Cup Finals etc we'd get a ticket.
Cheer them on for me!
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System not working for us. Log in and it says that none of us renewed our season tickets this year. This is news to me as I have the season ticket in my wallet and have been attending games with it all season.
Will have to phone tomorrow. Ballache.
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Done :D
If anyone wants a gander at specific seats before they book, use this. Better than the Wembley site (https://3ddigitalvenue.com/clients/sports/wembley)
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Started the process at 5:30.
3 tickets bought and paid for by 5:40
The row behind where we were for the play off final.
Piece of piss.
Wembley here we come.
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Went back in and managed to get them. Bug a millisecond before pressing pay I noticed the seat numbers aren't consecutive, worried they may have sat us separately for some reason. Has anyone had a confirmation email?
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Went back in and managed to get them. Bug a millisecond before pressing pay I noticed the seat numbers aren't consecutive, worried they may have sat us separately for some reason. Has anyone had a confirmation email?
Yeh but took about 10 mins to come through..... and says "Play Off Final Confirmation"
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I noticed on the seat viewer that the ‘blocks’ aren’t actual blocks - so there is an aisle in the middle of a ‘block’.
Seat numbers jump from 303 to 309 in block 133 because they are either side of an aisle. It could be that?
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I have the confirmation now, I have 311 and 322-25. Sigh. My dad's friend is gonna try and get them moved tomorrow. If not, hopefully a dozen people won't mind shuffling one seat along...
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Got mine didn't even have to queue :) in block 133 row 21
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block 133 for us too row 33 UTV , good luck to everyone
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All booked and really happy.
I got 1759 in the random queue allocation but Jane totally lucked out with 154! We got exactly the seats we wanted - can’t wait!
I was 124 in the queue allocation! Where are your seats, Amfy and Jane? We're section 124
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That's me not going then.
I've been to 8 games so far this season but my son because of work commitments has only been to 5, we both went to 16 home games last season.
It'll be the first time I've never been to a Villa Wembley appearance since my first visit in the League Cup Final in 1971 after being a season ticket holder since 1975-76 until 2012.
I think the Claret Membership has been massively over subscribed, maybe it would've been better to limit the membership as it has given a lot of people the impression, wrongly of course, that Cup Finals etc we'd get a ticket.
Cheer them on for me!
Never say never Oscar - It's amazing how tickets turn up when you are least expecting them. Fingers crossed for you and the many others who are in limbo.
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4 booked in 138 - thought it was gonna crash when got through queue and the Carabao Cup final was greyed out- then remembered to go to top of screen and login :-) dime bar!!
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All booked and really happy.
I got 1759 in the random queue allocation but Jane totally lucked out with 154! We got exactly the seats we wanted - can’t wait!
I was 124 in the queue allocation! Where are your seats, Amfy and Jane? We're section 124
We are in the Block 133 crew!
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I've attended 3 home games this season as a claret member and suspect that this change will mean I would not be able to get a ticket. However, I wasn't intending to go anyway and even if I was I'm not sure I'd have cause to complain. I do hope though that the claret membership will continue as it's been working, as it's been really good for me and I hope supporters like me who can or want to only get to so many games, for whatever reasons. If we go down of course, we won't need to worry about getting tickets to home games next season!
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Someone please tell me how and why I can't get access. I have logged in and am going round and round in circles when I click on Carabao Cup Final, then to ticket sales and then the same info again but no 'Buy Now' button. ST holder withfan ID and everything. Help!!
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Someone please tell me how and why I can't get access. I have logged in and am going round and round in circles when I click on Carabao Cup Final, then to ticket sales and then the same info again but no 'Buy Now' button. ST holder withfan ID and everything. Help!!
You have definitely had a season ticket for the last 5 years? Mind you my brother in law had same problem but I was able to get him a seat with mine. Glitch perhaps?
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If you haven't had your season ticket for five years you have to wait until next week.
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Someone please tell me how and why I can't get access. I have logged in and am going round and round in circles when I click on Carabao Cup Final, then to ticket sales and then the same info again but no 'Buy Now' button. ST holder withfan ID and everything. Help!!
It’s on Away Tickets as well if that helps.
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Thanks for trying guys (Risso and Walsall). Had my ST for many years uninterrupted. Signed in (it has my name on the top right to confirm). I keep going to ticket sales, then click on the cup info but no BUY NOW button; round and round I go as the tickets get sold. Yours Very Frustrated. Any suggestions
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There is a little box you have to tick to say you agree to the terms and conditions, it is partly obscured by another box if you are on the phone. Try looking for that, or try on a laptop if you've been trying on mobile?
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At the top of the pricing list it says on my page 'soon on sale'. I think this may be my glitch, because I reckon it should say Now on Sale or the like. Am I right?
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Martin- it did the same with me, persevere and it should clear and change to ‘Buy’.
Sorry I can’t be more helpful but at least I didn’t say ‘have you tried turning off and on again’
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I was also expecting a bracket for ST holders that have been to the League Cup games this season, too. Thought those people should be rewarded.
Rewarded how? A ST holder is guaranteed a ticket, isn't that reward enough?
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Thanks Virgil. I'll keep trying.
Martyn
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I have the confirmation now, I have 311 and 322-25. Sigh. My dad's friend is gonna try and get them moved tomorrow. If not, hopefully a dozen people won't mind shuffling one seat along...
It'll only be 10 people who need to shuffle, those in seats 312 to 321 incl., plus you = 11 😉
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Okay, thanks Vorderman 😁
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I was also expecting a bracket for ST holders that have been to the League Cup games this season, too. Thought those people should be rewarded.
Rewarded how? A ST holder is guaranteed a ticket, isn't that reward enough?
There might well be many ST holders who don't/didn't buy League Cup tickets. Therefore, those ST holders who did buy League Cup tickets should be rewarded through a higher bracket - as has been apparent in previous years.
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But why, all ST holders get a ticket. Why have another criteria that isn't needed?
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I was also expecting a bracket for ST holders that have been to the League Cup games this season, too. Thought those people should be rewarded.
Rewarded how? A ST holder is guaranteed a ticket, isn't that reward enough?
No. I want a free pie. And I don't want to have to queue for it.
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Well I'm stuffed then. Not complaining, as I said above the food and drink are cheaper at home! Just a shame I won't be able to go to Sheffield United either. UTV.
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Not sure what's hard to understand in my post tbh. It's happened before, I'm merely highlighting that.
Pie or no pie.
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I understand what you want, i'm querying why you think it's necessary. Both ST criteria windows are a week and every ST holder will get a ticket so another ST window just seems a bit pointless.
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I understand what you want, i'm querying why you think it's necessary. Both ST criteria windows are a week and every ST holder will get a ticket so another ST window just seems a bit pointless.
It depends how they release the tickets. If they release them all at once, or release the ‘best’ seats first, then the first batch to be able to buy will get the best seats. If all the (pre-premier league return) season ticket holders are together, then the first batch will include a number who end up in less good seats.
If those that have attended the League Cup this season were prioritised above other season ticket holders, then they would have the best chance of the best seats.
Last year for the Play Off Final (which was with only 18000 ST holders) I ended up in the upper tier which, although I was happy to be at Wembley, wasn’t what I had wanted. So I can see what they are saying about wanting that additional edge on criteria.
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In the past there hasn't seemed much logic to how they released areas at Wembley so it always seems a bit of a crapshoot.
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The batch of tickets released today is a little bit better than the bach that will be released next week (presuming that’s when the second batch is released) Not a great deal in it though.
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Meanwhile, Man City have about 20 different criteria tiers.
And they'll still send tickets back....
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have you gone to away ticket sales , also try using another login that meets criteria
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I'm in. Logged on at 5pm and all done by 5.10.
Block 537 row 2!
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Booked last night at about 8 pm, no queue, so quite straightforward -
Block 140 - as I will be by myself, hopefully someone will talk to me? - but probably not
What surprised me that some of the tickets were £120 +, mine was bad enough at £74.00 + £2.00 admin fee - I hope that everyone who wants a ticket gets one.
Should be a fantastic day (sounds like the Haircut 100 song, proves how old I am)
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Booked last night at about 8 pm, no queue, so quite straightforward -
Block 140 - as I will be by myself, hopefully someone will talk to me? - but probably not
What surprised me that some of the tickets were £120 +, mine was bad enough at £74.00 + £2.00 admin fee - I hope that everyone who wants a ticket gets one.
Should be a fantastic day (sounds like the Haircut 100 song, proves how old I am)
Don't forget to wear your favourite shirt.
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Martin- it did the same with me, persevere and it should clear and change to ‘Buy’.
Sorry I can’t be more helpful but at least I didn’t say ‘have you tried turning off and on again’
I was asked to look at two computer problems at work last week.
Twice I said, "turn it off and turn it back on again"
Twice that fixed the problem
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Problem solved. I wrote on here last night that I couldn't get into the online ticket sale for the final. Had to phone this morning - which was very quick and efficient by the way - and the reason was that I changed my seat 4 years ago ad gave me a new fan ID, so effectively I've only been a ST holder for that amount of time according to their records. They put me back on my old ID number and sold me a ticket. Just saying in case anyone else is having the same issue. Any, got my ticket without too much angst.
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If I go to the villa web site I can read about the cup final tickets and I’m advised to go online to tickets.avfc.co.uk
When I click in that I’m taken to a page which doesn’t mention the cup tickets.
What am I doing wrong?
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Go into "away tickets".
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Me and my mate aren't going to get tickets for Wembley - is there going to be anything on at Villa Park like the final with Man U?
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Me and my mate aren't going to get tickets for Wembley - is there going to be anything on at Villa Park like the final with Man U?
They should definitely do this. Lots of people that have previously got to Wembley will be missing out this time.
Alternatively - book a short break in Tanzania - the big screen crowd there could be amazing!
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If I go to the villa web site I can read about the cup final tickets and I’m advised to go online to tickets.avfc.co.uk
When I click in that I’m taken to a page which doesn’t mention the cup tickets.
What am I doing wrong?
click on the large villa v man city cup final banner at the top
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Me and my mate aren't going to get tickets for Wembley - is there going to be anything on at Villa Park like the final with Man U?
They should definitely do this. Lots of people that have previously got to Wembley will be missing out this time.
Alternatively - book a short break in Tanzania - the big screen crowd there could be amazing!
That’s literally an option for me! But a 22hr drive to Dar es Salaam safe to say my Mrs won’t be too convinced it’s in the best interest of little AV...
Really wishing I’d planned dates better now, but feeling blessed all the same.
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The club confirmed on Twitter today that we have 58k ST holders and Claret members combined, which I suppose gives us 28k claret members.
Yikes.
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But some ST holders might be members too. So they can get tickets for someone else who doesnt go as regularly. I know a few people that do this
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The club confirmed on Twitter today that we have 58k ST holders and Claret members combined, which I suppose gives us 28k claret members.
Yikes.
If that's @AVFCSupport, I wouldn't trust them to open a can of sardines that was already open.
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Go into "away tickets".
Thanks for that. It wasn’t obvious - to me anyway.
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Booked last night at about 8 pm, no queue, so quite straightforward -
Block 140 - as I will be by myself, hopefully someone will talk to me? - but probably not
What surprised me that some of the tickets were £120 +, mine was bad enough at £74.00 + £2.00 admin fee - I hope that everyone who wants a ticket gets one.
Should be a fantastic day (sounds like the Haircut 100 song, proves how old I am)
I sat on my own for the Chelsea semi final and Derby. Was fine (apart from the result in the first).
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Will a Claret membership count toward Wembley if taken out now does anyone know? Don't have a season ticket and trying to give myself the best chance.
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Will a Claret membership count toward Wembley if taken out now does anyone know? Don't have a season ticket and trying to give myself the best chance.
They've closed applications for membership, so no, you can't.
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Go into "away tickets".
Thanks for that. It wasn’t obvious - to me anyway.
I only remembered because that's where they were for the playoff final, and I ranted for about ten minutes before finding them.
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Shame. Don't think stubs will be enough this year, although they have been for the last 6 visits. Work shifts, so season ticket is a no go.
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So signed in, clicked to get to seating plan but still won’t allow me to choose a seat....help!
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So signed in, clicked to get to seating plan but still won’t allow me to choose a seat....help!
Have you got as far as the seating plan? If so it may be that someone else has put the seat(s)you chose in their basket and is waiting to pay. Try other seats.
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So signed in, clicked to get to seating plan but still won’t allow me to choose a seat....help!
When you access a section. It shows the number of available seats on the right hand side. That's where you click on the link to view the available seats.
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Just received another confirmation of my order... minus the play off final banner!
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For those who enjoyed it last season, Boxpark is Villa again and tickets available online.
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The only legitimate use for a half and half scarf is as a makeshift noose for anyone who wants to wear one.
After the FA Cup final in 2015 that never happened, a bunch of us had somehow got hold of one of these abominations and, stood in a circle outside the pub chanting 'you look like a bellend in your half and half scarf', burned it.
It was very Lord of the Flies and very weird.
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The only legitimate use for a half and half scarf is as a makeshift noose for anyone who wants to wear one.
After the FA Cup final in 2015 that never happened, a bunch of us had somehow got hold of one of these abominations and, stood in a circle outside the pub chanting 'you look like a bellend in your half and half scarf', burned it.
It was very Lord of the Flies and very weird.
That final was too much.
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That final was too much.
Had a great time the night before though! Dave W was able to get Coops a ticket as a surprise, how I got a ticket legitimately I'll never know...AND I got to meet Tony Daley in the concourse.
And we burned a half and half scarf.
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That final was too much.
Had a great time the night before though! Dave W was able to get Coops a ticket as a surprise, how I got a ticket legitimately I'll never know...AND I got to meet Tony Daley in the concourse.
And we burned a half and half scarf.
To be fair, amfy got the ticket; I just did the arrangements.
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That final was too much.
Had a great time the night before though! Dave W was able to get Coops a ticket as a surprise, how I got a ticket legitimately I'll never know...AND I got to meet Tony Daley in the concourse.
And we burned a half and half scarf.
To be fair, amfy got the ticket; I just did the arrangements.
Ah right. Amfy did amazing work getting people tickets for that match.
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That final was too much.
Had a great time the night before though! Dave W was able to get Coops a ticket as a surprise, how I got a ticket legitimately I'll never know...AND I got to meet Tony Daley in the concourse.
And we burned a half and half scarf.
To be fair, amfy got the ticket; I just did the arrangements.
Ah right. Amfy did amazing work getting people tickets for that match.
I was at Villa Park at 5am while you were in Vegas to get yours!
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Does anyone have experience of entering level 5 the upper tier?
I've always sat in the lower but this year I've opted for block 537. Level 5.
I made the call to do a group booking for 6 people on Monday and then to go back next week and get my stepson ticket.
Theres still a few seats left in our block. I had planned to stand him next to me and my dad.
Does anyone know if you can walk around the whole of the upper tier?
My thinking is that if I cant get him a ticket in my block then I'll be able to get something else in the upper tier and he'll still be ok to use the same entrance as me and stand him with me.
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We stood in the top tier for the play off last year and walked from one end of our support to the other after the match, I don’t remember any obstacles, you should be fine doing that, I’m thinking I might have to do the same.
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That's a relief. I cant decide if I've done the right thing or not.
I wanted row 2 of the upper tier so I thought I'd get what our group wanted and we'd stand him with us as he's only small.
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As far as I know you can walk all the way round Wembley on both tiers, the only bits they block off are for segregation.
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Nice one. Ideally I want my step son's ticket as close to ours as possible to save hassle but it's a good piece of mind.
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I was in the top tier for the FA Semi, and I recall being able to walk around from almost behind the goal to about the halfway line (the segregation line) to chat to other family at half time. You might have difficulties getting him to be able to stand by you unless there is an unoccupied seat close by.
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We had extra people stood with us the whole game at the playoff final, plenty of room.
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City had trouble selling their tickets for their previous fmestic cup finals. Could be the same this year. Wonder what they do with those tickets?
They obviously wont give us more even though we could sell double the amount city leave unsold. Seems a waste to me for our fans
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City returned 5,000 tickets for the FA Cup semi final last season and the final also went to general sale as I know a glory hunter who’d only ever been to 2 or 3 City games and got a Final ticket.
So it’s possible they don’t sell out.
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If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?
Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
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If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?
Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end to Aston Villa fans.
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City won't sell out
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I guess there's the possibility of tickets near the half way line not being sold by them and given to us. But unlikely.
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If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?
Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end to Aston Villa fans.
Yeah its wishful thinking. Which begs the question why the hell have city been given more tickets than us?
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If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?
Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end to Aston Villa fans.
Yeah its wishful thinking. Which begs the question why the hell have city been given more tickets than us?
I would guess it goes off average crowd size, and common sense doesn't come into it.
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If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?
Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end to Aston Villa fans.
Yeah its wishful thinking. Which begs the question why the hell have city been given more tickets than us?
I would guess it goes off average crowd size, and common sense doesn't come into it.
I think that as long as your average crowd would more than fill it, it should be 50/50. I think it is different for clubs who can barely attract 20,000 most weeks, but as virtually all our crowds this year have been over 40,000 and have barely been under the 33,000 for years, we should get half.
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it's only a couple of hundred difference and it's to do with the configuration of the ends. Derby had the same last season.
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As Dave says it is essentially 50:50.
And I don't think the idea giving one team a bigger allocation than another because of average crowd size is ever fair - why should one team give up any advantage because of the size of their ground / fanbase?
Remember, rather than give Leicester the whole north stand, we chose to net off seats and leave them unsold so as to minimise the impact of their fans on the day - and rightly so.
I also remember an argument in here abot how we should have more tickets than Fulham - their sales criteria was something like 4 tickets per ST holder and someone was arguing 'real fans' (and by that he meant Villa fans) should be allowed the seats. Yet Fulham ultimately sold their allocation to people who at least wore white and waved those fucking clappers about. And good luck to them, it is exactly what should have happened and what should always happen. 50:50 for cup finals full stop. Nothing else is fair.
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Did Man City sell out last season? The game was 9,000 under capacity
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6 tickets available per purchaser for Fulham. Don't know where they'd all gone when we played them in January.
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6 tickets available per purchaser for Fulham. Don't know where they'd all gone when we played them in January.
It doesn't matter does it? They got to the final on merit, filled their side of the stadium, made a reasonable noise and their team won fair and square? Do you think it would have been fairer to have 60,000 villa fans and 20,000 Fulham?
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Yes, actually.
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As if the big clubs haven't already got enough advantage in this world without people suggesting they get bigger allocations at cup finals. FFS.
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As if the big clubs haven't already got enough advantage in this world without people suggesting they get bigger allocations at cup finals. FFS.
They used to.
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I think when you're buying 6 tickets ago suggests you have no business having a 30,000 plus allocation. It's been and gone and they're back to getting one man and his dog watching them in the 2nd division.
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Remember, rather than give Leicester the whole north stand, we chose to net off seats and leave them unsold so as to minimise the impact of their fans on the day - and rightly so.
I think it's more about segregation than that - the front rows, for example, will have been to make it harder for pitch invasions their end if they'd won.
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Remember, rather than give Leicester the whole north stand, we chose to net off seats and leave them unsold so as to minimise the impact of their fans on the day - and rightly so.
I think it's more about segregation than that - the front rows, for example, will have been to make it harder for pitch invasions their end if they'd won.
I don't think so, they left a large section of the upper empty too. I think we gave them the minimum required allocation - and rightly so.
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Minuscule difference in allocation due to seat configurations. It'll still be 50/50 as it always should be.
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Yes, actually.
So you think it would have been fair for Fulham to get allocated their average attendance while we were allocated 28k more than our average?
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Sterling out with a hamstring for a few weeks hopefully.
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Sterling out with a hamstring for a few weeks hopefully.
Cos that’ll weaken them ! 😉
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Sterling out with a hamstring for a few weeks hopefully.
Cos that’ll weaken them ! 😉
And he never even played in that close game we had last month 🙁
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Sterling is excellent, he's really come on massively as a player these past couple of seasons. I'd rather he not play. If De Bruyne and Aguero could be out too, happy days.
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Yes but in two games so far they have not managed a double figure score and they are susceptible to conceding as we proved in the last minute of the home game. So I am full of confidence for the final. ::)
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Three at the back won’t work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.
Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.
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There’s no way DS will switch back to a flat back 4 for the final...it doesn’t work for our squad and we’d get torn a new one.
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If goes to general i wonder if villa fans will try get some in the city end?
Any returned by city should go ro villa fans in my opinion
I'm sure they aren't going to officially sell tickets in the Citeh end to Aston Villa fans.
Yeah its wishful thinking. Which begs the question why the hell have city been given more tickets than us?
I would guess it goes off average crowd size, and common sense doesn't come into it.
It doesn't go off average crowd. One half gets slightly more than the other, and it's luck of the draw which half you get. It was the same last year when Derby got more tickets than us. We have a bigger average crowd size than they do.
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How many more tickets have they been given?
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About 500
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Last year's final.
Chelsea
We have received an allocation of 32868 tickets for the Carabao Cup Final. Chelsea have been allocated the East side of the Wembley Stadium.
Citeh
The Club has received an allocation of 33,889 tickets located in the West end of Wembley Stadium.
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Good.
We are repeat bookers.
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What’s interesting is that city have a lot of games coming up. They have to go Madrid in Cl game few days before the cup final vs us. Then they have fa cup few days later. I think there will be a lot of rotating from city. Let’s hope for some injuries to them
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Three at the back won’t work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.
Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.
In a game where we will struggle for possession the answer is Hourihane! What’s the question?
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Three at the back won’t work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.
Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.
In a game where we will struggle for possession the answer is Hourihane! What’s the question?
"In a game where we could sneak a 12th player onto the pitch that would be so ineffective the opposition wouldn't care, if they even noticed, who would you pick?"
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Three at the back won’t work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.
Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.
In a game where we will struggle for possession the answer is Hourihane! What’s the question?
"In a game where we could sneak a 12th player onto the pitch that would be so ineffective the opposition wouldn't care, if they even noticed, who would you pick?"
So a standard back four will see us get dicked.
But three centre backs will also see us get dicked (as per game at VP)
If we go at them, we'll leave gaps and they kill us. If we sit back and Park a bus, they kill us.
Maybe we can play two goalkeepers? Bet no one thought of that!!
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Our tactics, if that's what they could be called, were wrong in the league game. Our "midfield" seemed so hell bent on keeping their shape that they forgot to actually engage the opposition.
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Our mindset was one of surrender. We lacked any belief. We had average Championship standard wing backs, an out of form midfield, no centre forward and Nyland chucked 3 in. Everything that could have gone wrong, did go wrong.
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Three at the back won’t work against city. Playing from the back is also a recipe for disaster. WE have to take the game to city this time not sit back like cowards like we did in the home game.
Mings and Konsa at cb with a midfield of Luiz nakamaba and hourihane.
Last season Chelsea in the final actually switched to a false 9 upfront for the final, Hazard played there. It worked well and Chelsea got to penalties. Sarri didn't play Hazard directly upfront in any other game last season so that's an example of a coach ripping up his template for a one off game.
Could Grealish as the striker and flooding the midfield at least keep us in the game up to the last period? I think it's worth a go tbh as certainly you'd back Jack to keep the ball longer and win some free kicks in dangerous areas the higher he's up the pitch.
It's going to be very tough whatever formation. My main fear is it's a repeat of 2015 final. From the kick off we just retreat and just starting booting the ball upfield rather than keeping it down and trying to start building up attacks.
Man. City are hardly a difficult team to score past if you keep things tight but we made that look near impossible with our approach at VP.
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Three weeks before the game and I think we haven't got a chance, regardless of what tactics we go for.
Next Sunday, I'll think that we could contain them if we play well but they'll have to have a rank off day.
The Sunday after, I may believe that we could sneak it. Maybe penalties?
The morning over the game, we'll win 2-0 no worries and Man City needed bother turning up!
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City by their own high standards are in a bit of a mess. I think if we concede early we're pretty much fucked and could be in for a tonking. However if we can just frustrate them, make it ugly, and defend well then you never know.
We need to look at our first half performance at the Etihad as a bit of a blue print. Obviously they went on to win easily but they were in better form/ spirits at that stage. We showed we could hold our own, frustrate them and give them a few things to worry about going forward.
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It's a Cup Final. We've beaten Crewe, Brighton, Wolves, Liverpool and Leicester so far. 4 top division sides. What's to say we can't win the final? If we play like we have against them we're screwed but if we play as we can we'll give them a game.
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It's a Cup Final. We've beaten Crewe, Brighton, Wolves, Liverpool and Leicester so far. 4 top division sides. What's to say we can't win the final? If we play like we have against them we're screwed but if we play as we can we'll give them a game.
2015 had better omens to me. A striker in red hot form, a succesful end to the season staying up and Arsenal were nowhere near as good as this Man. City team given the previous season a Steve Bruce led Hull should've beaten them.
We all know what happened. Ultimately history is always a bearing until we start rewriting it. Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.
Hopefully the play off final win will at least give us confidence and should mean we don't get stage fright this time.
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Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.
So that leaves two this century, and a couple the decade before that were anything but.
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Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.
So that leaves two this century, and a couple the decade before that were anything but.
Fulham aswell which was a very disappointing game and could've done the most long term damage of all the defeats.
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Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.
So that leaves two this century, and a couple the decade before that were anything but.
Fulham aswell which was a very disappointing game and could've done the most long term damage of all the defeats.
If you count a play-off as a major cup final (which I don't) you're forgetting last year's.
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I don't class play-offs as cup finals as they are just extra league games. I also don't include the inter toto. So in my life we've been in 9 major finals, only 2 of them have lost because we played shit.
If you want to include play-offs and inter toto then it's 3 out of 12.
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Given the previous chat about decades etc- does the Chelsea debacle count as this century or last? Not that it really matters, we were fkg shite that day.
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Given the previous chat about decades etc- does the Chelsea debacle count as this century or last? Not that it really matters, we were fkg shite that day.
It didn't happen full stop. Just erase it from your memory.
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In the 2000 FA Cup final we were crap but so were Chelsea there really wasn't much in it which made it so disappointing to lose.
If only we had showed up that day, it was there for the taking.
In 2015 we were terrible, it was the beginning of the end, with relegation the following season.
Absolute catastrophe for me personally as it cost me a small fortune to get to see it, as I managed to get a week off work and travelled from Australia.
Against Man City I think we all are not expecting to win but I just hope we can frustrate them and give them a decent game, then you never know.
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Never mind the results our performances in major cup finals have been very poor and lacking in any sort of belief bar 2010 which was a pass and screwed by ridiculous ref decision.
So that leaves two this century, and a couple the decade before that were anything but.
Fulham aswell which was a very disappointing game and could've done the most long term damage of all the defeats.
If you count a play-off as a major cup final (which I don't) you're forgetting last year's.
I did say I hope last year's one means we at least won't freeze on the day and give Man. City a decent game whatever the result. That's what everyone is hoping for anyway. No shots on target and no corners isn't worth thinking about.
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3 bad cup final performances for me: Everton, Arsenal & Chelsea.
Other than that, the only other Wembley performances that have been poor are the Fulham play off final (not cup final) and the Chelsea semi-final.
We weren't great against Norwich or Spurs but certainly not poor.
We've lost our last 3 cup finals there but on each occasion, we played a far better side. Statistics show that in cup finals, the better team on paper usually wins. It is quite rare for upsets to occur.
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It would be nice to see some sort of appropriate tribute to Ron Saunders at Wembley, given that he took both teams to league Cup Finals.
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In the 2000 FA Cup final we were crap but so were Chelsea there really wasn't much in it which made it so disappointing to lose.
If only we had showed up that day, it was there for the taking.
In 2015 we were terrible, it was the beginning of the end, with relegation the following season.
Absolute catastrophe for me personally as it cost me a small fortune to get to see it, as I managed to get a week off work and travelled from Australia.
Against Man City I think we all are not expecting to win but I just hope we can frustrate them and give them a decent game, then you never know.
same. Cost me a small fortune in airfare and getting on the piss for a week in London. My mate, bless him, wouldn’t take my money for the club Wembley ticket that his old man managed to get for us.
Had a class day out in the black lion, kilburn. We lost. I flew back next weekend, travel visa from Aus ran out, so had to pay for that when I got back and a speeding ticket that arrived in the post whilst away, then got made redundant on the Wednesday the next week back at work. Triffic.
Chelsea was honestly 100% shitter than that.
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In the 2000 FA Cup final we were crap but so were Chelsea there really wasn't much in it which made it so disappointing to lose.
If only we had showed up that day, it was there for the taking.
In 2015 we were terrible, it was the beginning of the end, with relegation the following season.
Absolute catastrophe for me personally as it cost me a small fortune to get to see it, as I managed to get a week off work and travelled from Australia.
Against Man City I think we all are not expecting to win but I just hope we can frustrate them and give them a decent game, then you never know.
same. Cost me a small fortune in airfare and getting on the piss for a week in London. My mate, bless him, wouldn’t take my money for the club Wembley ticket that his old man managed to get for us.
Had a class day out in the black lion, kilburn. We lost. I flew back next weekend, travel visa from Aus ran out, so had to pay for that when I got back and a speeding ticket that arrived in the post whilst away, then got made redundant on the Wednesday the next week back at work. Triffic.
Chelsea was honestly 100% shitter than that.
And don't forget the free bed and board in Lewisham....
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I don’t forget it at all Ade, loved the week and your generous hospitality was very much appreciated. Think you weren’t working at the time too?
The downer of losing to arsenal never came close to the Chelsea loss though eh? Most pissed off ive ever been with Villa that day. Shit day out too. At least 2015 was a top day other than the game.
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3 bad cup final performances for me: Everton, Arsenal & Chelsea.
Other than that, the only other Wembley performances that have been poor are the Fulham play off final (not cup final) and the Chelsea semi-final.
We weren't great against Norwich or Spurs but certainly not poor.
The league cup finals against Norwich and Spurs we were bloody good.
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Does anyone know how well the tickets sales have gone so far??
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The Bolton semi at Wembley was a dire performance, but we squeaked through.
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The Bolton semi at Wembley was a dire performance, but we squeaked through.
Thanks to Holdsworth missing an absolute sitter of an open goal.
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By my reckoning since 1990 we have played at Wembley 10 times, winning 5, losing 5. Goals scored only 11, goals conceded 14.
I went to 9 of these and the only ones we played well in were 94 96 15 v 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and last year.
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3 bad cup final performances for me: Everton, Arsenal & Chelsea.
Other than that, the only other Wembley performances that have been poor are the Fulham play off final (not cup final) and the Chelsea semi-final.
We weren't great against Norwich or Spurs but certainly not poor.
The league cup finals against Norwich and Spurs we were bloody good.
They were great but the Norwich performance was below par. We had the better of the play but it took until the 79th minute to make the breakthrough. We were on that fantastic run at the time and that performance (together with the Bolton one a few days later) were two of the lesser ones. As I said, we weren’t poor but by the same token weren’t great.
Ads - Yes agree re the Bolton semi. So poor I’d forgotten about it.
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Lee Mason will referee the 2020 Carabao Cup final.
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From Greater Manchester. How's that fair?
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He went to the same school in Bolton as my wife.
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He supports Bolton apparently.
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From Greater Manchester. How's that fair?
"There was something very iffy about their 8th goal, the biased bastard!"
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He supports Bolton apparently.
So, the 2000 FAC semi-final won't cloud his judgement, then?
;D ;D
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Mike Dean is the VAR ref :(
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Mike Dean is the VAR ref :(
City have just been awarded a penalty against us!
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Lee Masons a funny ref, he is invariably an absolute homer and is easily swayed by a crowd getting on his back and I can think of quite a few times we’ve benefitted from that and away from home where we haven’t. So at a neutral ground hopefully he won’t be too bad.
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In the 2000 FA Cup final we were crap but so were Chelsea there really wasn't much in it which made it so disappointing to lose.
If only we had showed up that day, it was there for the taking.
In 2015 we were terrible, it was the beginning of the end, with relegation the following season.
Absolute catastrophe for me personally as it cost me a small fortune to get to see it, as I managed to get a week off work and travelled from Australia.
Against Man City I think we all are not expecting to win but I just hope we can frustrate them and give them a decent game, then you never know.
same. Cost me a small fortune in airfare and getting on the piss for a week in London. My mate, bless him, wouldn’t take my money for the club Wembley ticket that his old man managed to get for us.
Had a class day out in the black lion, kilburn. We lost. I flew back next weekend, travel visa from Aus ran out, so had to pay for that when I got back and a speeding ticket that arrived in the post whilst away, then got made redundant on the Wednesday the next week back at work. Triffic.
Chelsea was honestly 100% shitter than that.
And don't forget the free bed and board in Lewisham....
Shit Rob, if I’d known I’d have bought you an extra pint at closing time in the Black Lion
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Currently 20-1 to win at Bet 365.
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Looking at citys games they have a lot of games in the space of the cup final
H west ham next week
A Leicester on the saturday
A real madrid 4 days before the cup final
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Tickets arrived in the post this morning. Come on you Lions!!
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Nice set of tickets off mr postie today 😁
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Nice set of tickets off mr postie today 😁
Nice set of tickets off mr postie today 😁
I love posties...great people😁
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For anyone trying now to avoid the queue click on the link on the twitter page for the stadium tours and it will bypass the system and take you through to the ticket office without queuing!
Just tried and it worked.
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Have you got the link?
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Brilliant to find out I'm sat here waiting when others can just jump in and bypass the queue.
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Brilliant to find out I'm sat here waiting when others can just jump in and bypass the queue.
I just tried it, it doesnt work.
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And me, just joins the queue.
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Got in with minimal fuss, 2 or 3 minute wait if that, Block 135. Result.
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Been queuing for 45 mins but only 6 mins to go.
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Brilliant to find out I'm sat here waiting when others can just jump in and bypass the queue.
I just tried it, it doesnt work.
Worked absolutely fine for me on my phone. On my laptop I was number 7000 plus. The legends tour link on the Twitter page redirectedly me immediately and had them booked within minutes.
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Looks like pretty much everything Lower leve has gone.
Managed to get row 5 in block 533 so pretty happy with that.
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A VCTM dilemma - I have a hotel booked in Ealing the night before the final - my chances of me and Jnr getting a ticket are minimal , like they were for the play off l - due to a combination of illness and unemployment - we are both claret members but have only attended the first three home games before my illness took its toll - shall I go down on the Saturday and have a curry at my favourite Indian restaurant in Ealing and watch the game the following day at the Arch Pub (Wembley) with Jnr or take Mrs VCTM down to London town to " do the sights"
Try and keep your responses clean as Mrs VCTM May want to look at the suggestions ;)
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That was quite a smooth experience for once, logged in about half four, got allocated 1723 or near in the queue at 5pm, 20 minutes later was all booked up and checked out
Block 137 here we come
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A VCTM dilemma - I have a hotel booked in Ealing the night before the final - my chances of me and Jnr getting a ticket are minimal , like they were for the play off l - due to a combination of illness and unemployment - we are both claret members but have only attended the first three home games before my illness took its toll - shall I go down on the Saturday and have a curry at my favourite Indian restaurant in Ealing and watch the game the following day at the Arch Pub (Wembley) with Jnr or take Mrs VCTM down to London town to " do the sights"
Try and keep your responses clean as Mrs VCTM May want to look at the suggestions ;)
The fa site has tickets but only in the city end right now. Not sure if some in our end will pop up at some point?
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Annoying that they kept lots of blocks until today, would have liked front row of 532 but wasn't on sale last Tuesday only today. Got 549 row 2 but they were £72 and 532 were £56.
If priority went to us who have had a ST for over 4 seasons then why not let us pick and choose? Oh, well got them now, let's just hope we are not humiliated. Got to go for it.
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Not sure if anyone's posted it yet but this site allows you to see the view from your actual seat:
https://3ddigitalvenue.com/clients/sports/wembley
Really pleased with mine. I've gone upstairs for the first time (last 3 visits been in level 2). First few rows, almost as far round as you can go past the 18 yard line towards the half way line. Fed up of being in the corner or behind the goal. I don't like the lower tier. I sat there for the Man U final albeit on the side but felt it was too low. I always like to be upstairs on 2 tier stands. I know level 3 is quite a way up but it doesn't seem that higher than level 2 at the front.
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A VCTM dilemma - I have a hotel booked in Ealing the night before the final - my chances of me and Jnr getting a ticket are minimal , like they were for the play off l - due to a combination of illness and unemployment - we are both claret members but have only attended the first three home games before my illness took its toll - shall I go down on the Saturday and have a curry at my favourite Indian restaurant in Ealing and watch the game the following day at the Arch Pub (Wembley) with Jnr or take Mrs VCTM down to London town to " do the sights"
Try and keep your responses clean as Mrs VCTM May want to look at the suggestions ;)
I've just come out of an Ealing committee meeting. The general consensus is 'fuck the sights'!
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Just got the very last ticket in Block 134!
Come on you Lions!
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No problems and queue not as bad as after the game at Aston Station
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I've booked two rooms for the Sunday night at the Wembley Premier Inn, and it looks like I may only need one. They're just reserved as it stands, if anyone is after one let me know.
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Unless they’re holding a block back, 2.5k left.
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Unless they’re holding a block back, 2.5k left.
That waould be about right with 30,000 ST holders and 1,000 odd that Villa have taken for players, sponsors etc.
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A VCTM dilemma - I have a hotel booked in Ealing the night before the final - my chances of me and Jnr getting a ticket are minimal , like they were for the play off l - due to a combination of illness and unemployment - we are both claret members but have only attended the first three home games before my illness took its toll - shall I go down on the Saturday and have a curry at my favourite Indian restaurant in Ealing and watch the game the following day at the Arch Pub (Wembley) with Jnr or take Mrs VCTM down to London town to " do the sights"
Try and keep your responses clean as Mrs VCTM May want to look at the suggestions ;)
Pub and watch the game ... but check the local pubs to Wembley will show the game.
I seem to remember having that conversation in The Arch last May with some bar staff. I'm sure they said the game wouldn't be shown there or any local pub [1/2 a mile radius] however, events and conversations are a little hazy from about 11 in the morning that day so i may be talking complete and utter bollox, and they may have wanted everyone out of their pub!
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Loads of people watch the game in Harrow on the Hill usually..
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Loads of people watch the game in Harrow on the Hill usually..
Cheers Amfy
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18,000 tickets were sold last night.
We've got an extra allocation of 571 tickets.
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Total now 33,666.
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18,000 tickets were sold last night.
Just last night or in total so far ?
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18,000 tickets were sold last night.
We've got an extra allocation of 571 tickets.
How did that happen? Man City not selling out or the Football League returning some?
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18,000 tickets were sold last night.
Just last night or in total so far ?
18000 sold overnight they tweeted.
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18,000 tickets were sold last night.
Just last night or in total so far ?
At the category change last night. Guess that around 30,000 have been sold.
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18000 last night so only 12000 to longer term season ticket holders the week before doesn't quite make sense numbers wise.
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18000 last night so only 12000 to longer term season ticket holders the week before doesn't quite make sense numbers wise.
I can see it, tbh. I'll wager that a lot of our recent ST intake are either kids, or strayed sheep returning within their flock. Me and my brother have 14 years continuous each, but had to wait til yesterday to get his first-season nipper's so that we could sit together. There was at least one other poster on here yesterday in a similar position. If you were in a group where just one of you didn't qualify til yesterday, if you wanted to sit together you had to wait.
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18000 last night so only 12000 to longer term season ticket holders the week before doesn't quite make sense numbers wise.
I can see it, tbh. I'll wager that a lot of our recent ST intake are either kids, or strayed sheep returning within their flock. Me and my brother have 14 years continuous each, but had to wait til yesterday to get his first-season nipper's so that we could sit together. There was at least one other poster on here yesterday in a similar position. If you were in a group where just one of you didn't qualify til yesterday, if you wanted to sit together you had to wait.
Same for us. We needed seven tickets for long timers and four for newer ST holders so had to wait until yesterday so we could sit together.
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Same here, got mine with a minimum of fuss a week later than I could have done, it worked really well.
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Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?
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Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?
The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.
There's about 3,000 left.
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I suppose any ST’s that are not going will have taken their tickets still and passed them on, was probably a bit of wishful thinking that not all 30k would have gone before it went to members
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I've e-mailed the club to ask but I wonder if anyone on here can advise in the meantime:
I've been to 7 games at home this season as a Claret Member (or will have after Spurs this weekend), Chelsea at home is about to go on sale so a ticket for that would be my 8th, would I then be eligible for a Wembley ticket in the 8+ games criteria? Or would I not be, due to the fact that the Chelsea game won't have taken place by the time we play Man City at Wembley?
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Tweet AVFC support account, they are usually good at getting back to questions like that
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I've e-mailed the club to ask but I wonder if anyone on here can advise in the meantime:
I've been to 7 games at home this season as a Claret Member (or will have after Spurs this weekend), Chelsea at home is about to go on sale so a ticket for that would be my 8th, would I then be eligible for a Wembley ticket in the 8+ games criteria? Or would I not be, due to the fact that the Chelsea game won't have taken place by the time we play Man City at Wembley?
I am sure someone asked them about Chelsea game and they replied that Chelsea will NOT count
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Found it here https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1224660575407484929
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It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, not sure. If you had to choose relegation and win the League Cup or stay up and lose the League Cup final, what would you go for?
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It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, not sure. If you had to choose relegation and win the League Cup or stay up and lose the League Cup final, what would you go for?
I’d normally say win the cup and get relegated as I take the old school view that it’s all about winning trophies, HOWEVER, due to the fact that relegation would ensure the departure of Grealish, Mings and McGinn I’m changing my answer this time to lose at Wembley and stay up.
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Stay up all day long. Times have changed - That cup has been devalued beyond return. It will be a nice day out and all the rest of it but I'd sooner 3 points in the league.
I can't go through another 3 years of the Championship. It would set us back years.
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Why can’t we do both? I don’t see why it’s linked that winning a cup will mean relegation. I understand it’s a hypothetical question, but come on win and stay up!
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There's no decision to be made, we'll do both.
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I've e-mailed the club to ask but I wonder if anyone on here can advise in the meantime:
I've been to 7 games at home this season as a Claret Member (or will have after Spurs this weekend), Chelsea at home is about to go on sale so a ticket for that would be my 8th, would I then be eligible for a Wembley ticket in the 8+ games criteria? Or would I not be, due to the fact that the Chelsea game won't have taken place by the time we play Man City at Wembley?
I am sure someone asked them about Chelsea game and they replied that Chelsea will NOT count
I thought that this kind of thing was normally games attended, rather than tickets bought
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Yes, hypothetical and in no way an assumption that it's impossible to do both.
I'm not totally sure myself but i think if you throw in that Grealish will be off either way (again i'm not saying it's certain to happen but could well if you believe the tabloids) i would then take the cup win i think. I know it's all about money these days but it's partly about me saying 'fuck that', and also about the fact that we haven't won anything for 24 years.
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Yes, hypothetical and in no way an assumption that it's impossible to do both.
I'm not totally sure myself but i think if you throw in that Grealish will be off either way (again i'm not saying it's certain to happen but could well if you believe the tabloids) i would then take the cup win i think. I know it's all about money these days but it's partly about me saying 'fuck that', and also about the fact that we haven't won anything for 24 years.
I'd undoubtedly take staying up.
You'll get people saying 'both' or 'it's not one or the other' but they kind of miss the point of a hypothetical question.
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I've e-mailed the club to ask but I wonder if anyone on here can advise in the meantime:
I've been to 7 games at home this season as a Claret Member (or will have after Spurs this weekend), Chelsea at home is about to go on sale so a ticket for that would be my 8th, would I then be eligible for a Wembley ticket in the 8+ games criteria? Or would I not be, due to the fact that the Chelsea game won't have taken place by the time we play Man City at Wembley?
I am sure someone asked them about Chelsea game and they replied that Chelsea will NOT count
I thought that this kind of thing was normally games attended, rather than tickets bought
Yeah this is 100% the case. Spurs is the last game that will count towards it, I'm afraid.
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Cup win.
We've not won a trophy for over 20 years.
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It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, not sure. If you had to choose relegation and win the League Cup or stay up and lose the League Cup final, what would you go for?
I’d normally say win the cup and get relegated as I take the old school view that it’s all about winning trophies, HOWEVER, due to the fact that relegation would ensure the departure of Grealish, Mings and McGinn I’m changing my answer this time to lose at Wembley and stay up.
Why would they want to stay somewhere that's not going to win things?
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Stay up.
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It may have been mentioned earlier in this thread, not sure. If you had to choose relegation and win the League Cup or stay up and lose the League Cup final, what would you go for?
I’d normally say win the cup and get relegated as I take the old school view that it’s all about winning trophies, HOWEVER, due to the fact that relegation would ensure the departure of Grealish, Mings and McGinn I’m changing my answer this time to lose at Wembley and stay up.
Why would they want to stay somewhere that's not going to win things?
If we stay up they won’t all leave this summer. If we go down, they will. That was my point.
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Cup win.
We've not won a trophy for over 20 years.
Controversial. I don’t fancy going through the relegation situation of selling our best players and facing possible FFP sanctions from the league. To win a cup that none of the top teams really rate. I was kinda hoping that in couple more seasons we’d have bigger fish to fry.
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Cup win.
We've not won a trophy for over 20 years.
Controversial. I don’t fancy going through the relegation situation of selling our best players and facing possible FFP sanctions from the league. To win a cup that none of the top teams really rate. I was kinda hoping that in couple more seasons we’d have bigger fish to fry.
I'm with Drum,
anyway we win this cup get into the Europa league, win that
Then the year after win the champs league and no one gives a shit about another year in the championship when the players are drinking champagne out of old big ears....again
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There no guarantee those players will stay even if we stay up - but they might be more likely to if we can offer them European football.
Winning a cup at the beginning of March doesn’t send you down in May. I’d love to see us get this cup and strengthen our hand to keep hold of the players we want when we stay up.
Apart from anything else, it’s bloody ridiculous that Blues are the only team round here with a Cup this century. It’s against the laws of nature.
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There no guarantee those players will stay even if we stay up - but they might be more likely to if we can offer them European football.
Winning a cup at the beginning of March doesn’t send you down in May. I’d love to see us get this cup and strengthen our hand to keep hold of the players we want when we stay up.
Apart from anything else, it’s bloody ridiculous that Blues are the only team round here with a Cup this century. It’s against the laws of nature.
Precisely. You don’t think global climate catastrophe and the rise of the far right are happening by chance, do you?
We need to win to bring peace to Earth.
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Stay up
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Given the choice I would opt to lose the cup final 5-3 after extra time, and then go on to ensure our place in the premier league with a 5-3 win against Arsenal in the penultimate game of the season, followed up by a 4-0 win away at West Ham on the last day of the season, thereby sending them down and finally exacting an appropriate form of revenge for the FA Cup Quarter Final defeat in 1980.
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Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?
The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.
There's about 3,000 left.
There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed
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Stay up.
Probably for the first time in the history of me posting on H&V I find myself agreeing with Ads :) - it won't last
It has to be stay up.......however if we did win the cup that would surely boost the confidence of the players and club for the remainder of the season
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Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?
The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.
There's about 3,000 left.
There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed
I counted earlier too - there are just under 1500 left. This isn’t going past the first set of claret members as far as I can see.
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Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?
The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.
There's about 3,000 left.
There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed
I counted earlier too - there are just under 1500 left. This isn’t going past the first set of claret members as far as I can see.
Does this mean we have more than 30000 ST holders?
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Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?
The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.
There's about 3,000 left.
There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed
I counted earlier too - there are just under 1500 left. This isn’t going past the first set of claret members as far as I can see.
Does this mean we have more than 30000 ST holders?
No about 1,600 have gone to Staff, Sponsors, Hospitality, Players, Club Partners according to that AVFC Twatter Feed
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If we can somehow win the next two before the final, then we’ll stay up anyway. If we lose the next two a demoralising defeat will kill us and take a massive recovery to survive.
An interesting few games then. Three wins on the bounce: Heaven and we’ll get maybe 45 points with the momentum. Three defeats and I personally think we’ll be dead, we won’t recover and neither will the fanbase especially the online one.
I want the trophy regardless. I’m old school in that way.
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Does anyone know what the total sales figures are?
The general consensus is 30,000 - 12,000 last week and 18000 last night.
There's about 3,000 left.
There is about 1,500 left someone has counted them and put it on that AVFC Support twatter feed
I counted earlier too - there are just under 1500 left. This isn’t going past the first set of claret members as far as I can see.
Does this mean we have more than 30000 ST holders?
No about 1,600 have gone to Staff, Sponsors, Hospitality, Players, Club Partners according to that AVFC Twatter Feed
When I posted, there were around 3,000 left so either another 1,500 ST holders bought after my post or someone has had another 1,500 away. All sorts goes on with these ticket distributions and nothing surprises me. The club, sponsors, players etc would have had first dibs - They wouldn't have been left to feed on the scraps after 30,000 ST holders had been sorted.
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Staying up. What’s the point of winning it then be europa in a gruelling championship season. It would be a disaster for us and kill any hopes of us of promotion.
If the choice is one it’s staying up simple as that. Keeping players like mcginn mings and hopefully grealish is much for vital to us than a cup
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According to Man City’s forum, their sales window has already reached the lowest priority and they have nearly 9000 left! There’s even talk of season ticket holders being able to purchase and extra 2 tickets?!
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According to Man City’s forum, their sales window has already reached the lowest priority and they have nearly 9000 left! There’s even talk of season ticket holders being able to purchase and extra 2 tickets?!
They really dont care about this cup. It would be a travesty them winning it really because they dont even care.
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According to Man City’s forum, their sales window has already reached the lowest priority and they have nearly 9000 left! There’s even talk of season ticket holders being able to purchase and extra 2 tickets?!
They really dont care about this cup. It would be a travesty them winning it really because they dont even care.
Just 2 posts after you said that you would much rather stay up than win the League Cup. Which is fair enough, but why criticise them for not treating this as a priority.
If anyone doesn't want to go to Wembley, I've got a 13 year old who's desperate to see some glory but hasn't got a ticket yet.
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I hate the Europa League,it’s just a huge waste of time.
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I hate the Europa League,it’s just a huge waste of time.
No it isn’t.
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I hate the Europa League,it’s just a huge waste of time.
No it isn’t.
It's absolutely not. It is a fantastic platform for preparing a club to compete in Europe. It stress tests all aspects of club operations and builds up squad strength and mental resilience. Best way to prepare for competing in Champions League.
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Would love a European Tour again, whatever competition it is
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I can't get why anyone wouldn't enjoy European football. We have played Man United, Newcastle and Sheffield United about a million times each. We very rarely get to play exotic teams from mad countries. And there's still the possibility of getting a genuine European giant like Inter or Ajax again.
I can't really understand why people prefer playing the same old teams over and over again to the excitement of European football. Okay, having loads of matches moved to Sunday is a bit of a pain, but worth it, imo.
Still, let's not get ahead of ourselves. We have to beat Man City first 🤣. Unlike before our last cup final, I haven't allowed myself to consult Wikipedia and check when our hypothetical European run might start, as it is bad luck I reckon.
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As an aside, any H&V meteorologists know if this storm bollocks is going to have fucked off by the 1st March? Don't fancy 30,000 of us getting replacement buses all the way to That London.
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I hate the Europa League,it’s just a huge waste of time.
Respectfully disagree.
I would love European nights back at Villa Park.
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I hate the Europa League,it’s just a huge waste of time.
Respectfully disagree.
I would love European nights back at Villa Park.
The Inter Milan games are some of my best VP memories.
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Man City fans may not be that bothered about the League Cup because they are consistently challenging for honours. I'd like to be in the position where I care about the League Cup a little less, it will mean we've won something else.
Our long-term future appears to be safe, relegation, whilst not ideal would merely be a blip given the commitment the owners are showing. A cup win is a permanent record of success.
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Would love a European Tour again, whatever competition it is
I would also love a European tour I love us playing in Europe.
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The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter. So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?
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The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter. So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?
I agree with you Dave.
What's the point in football if you're not trying to win something? We support teams and glory, not businesses.
I mentioned this to a Palace fan the other day and he didn't know what to come back with.
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The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter. So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?
I agree with you Dave.
What's the point in football if you're not trying to win something? We support teams and glory, not businesses.
I mentioned this to a Palace fan the other day and he didn't know what to come back with.
It's because of the brainwashing that the Premier League and Champions League are the be all and end all.
At the end of the day, most club sides start the season only competing in 3 competitions. The League is normally only going to be won by a handful of the teams and the cups offer a potential for anyone.
That we'd turn up the chance to win one of those three just so that we can be an also-ran in another baffles me.
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The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter. So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?
I agree with you Dave.
What's the point in football if you're not trying to win something? We support teams and glory, not businesses.
I mentioned this to a Palace fan the other day and he didn't know what to come back with.
Well, you'd have thought he would have remembered the importance of winning the Zenith Data Systems Cup. ;)
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The League Cup doesn't matter. The Europa League doesn't matter. Despite what we might say on here the crowds we get prove that the FA Cup doesn't really matter. So what does matter? Messing around in the middle of the Premier League until it's our turn to get relegated again? Hoping for a miracle that'll get us top four so we can play the sort of clubs we'd play in the Europa League, plus if we're lucky one of the Big Names?
I agree with you Dave.
What's the point in football if you're not trying to win something? We support teams and glory, not businesses.
I mentioned this to a Palace fan the other day and he didn't know what to come back with.
It's because of the brainwashing that the Premier League and Champions League are the be all and end all.
At the end of the day, most club sides start the season only competing in 3 competitions. The League is normally only going to be won by a handful of the teams and the cups offer a potential for anyone.
That we'd turn up the chance to win one of those three just so that we can be an also-ran in another baffles me.
Totally agree, just the wheels of capitalism innit.
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Not so long ago, Liverpool and Man City were doing cartwheels over winning this competition. Just because their priorities have changed, doesn't mean its worthless.
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a little Valentines poem
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Leicester one
The Villa two
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Man City's allocation is on general sale and season ticket holders have been given access to purchase two extra tickets.
What is it with us drawing these absolute tin pot outfits with dire support in finals of late?
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They have 8,000 left apparently
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Man City's allocation is on general sale and season ticket holders have been given access to purchase two extra tickets.
What is it with us drawing these absolute tin pot outfits with dire support in finals of late?
Looks like they only need to have attended one game to get a ticket.
Supporter Services
@ManCityHelp
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3h
CARABAO CUP FINAL: On General Sale!
🎟️
Supporters must have previously attended a game at the Etihad Stadium Stadium to purchase a ticket.
Seasoncard holders can purchase an additional 2x tickets.
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I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...
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I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...
I went to Maine Road...so presumably I can cherry pick a top seat.
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a little Valentines poem
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Leicester one
The Villa two
Hopefully on 1 March, we'll be able to change Leicester for Man City!
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I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...
You can log into their ticket site using your Facebook, Gmail or Amazon account.
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Man City's allocation is on general sale and season ticket holders have been given access to purchase two extra tickets.
What is it with us drawing these absolute tin pot outfits with dire support in finals of late?
Looks like they only need to have attended one game to get a ticket.
Supporter Services
@ManCityHelp
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3h
CARABAO CUP FINAL: On General Sale!
🎟️
Supporters must have previously attended a game at the Etihad Stadium Stadium to purchase a ticket.
Seasoncard holders can purchase an additional 2x tickets.
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big club my fucking arse
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Embarrassing
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Man City's allocation is on general sale and season ticket holders have been given access to purchase two extra tickets.
What is it with us drawing these absolute tin pot outfits with dire support in finals of late?
Looks like they only need to have attended one game to get a ticket.
Supporter Services
@ManCityHelp
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3h
CARABAO CUP FINAL: On General Sale!
🎟️
Supporters must have previously attended a game at the Etihad Stadium Stadium to purchase a ticket.
Seasoncard holders can purchase an additional 2x tickets.
Man City... doing a Fulham.
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It’s because they messed up the UEFA cup which was a proper competition and expanded the zEuropa to ridiculous lengths. If you enter it, there is a huge chance it will fuck up your season. They let teams in that have failed in the other competition.
It’s plAyed on Thursday nights meaning every game is on a Sunday.
It’s a complete fuck up.
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Winning stuff > not winning stuff
This is a conversation we've been having since O'Neill, how cups aren't a priority, and there's always bigger fish to fry. During which time we've been humiliated by Arsenal, and put to the sword all too often by countless lesser lights, and despite this 'prioritising' still managing to spend 3 seasons out of the top flight. It's beyond a fucking joke that we've won nothing since 1996. Pisses me off.
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I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...
I went to Maine Road...so presumably I can cherry pick a top seat.
I drove past that awful stadium the other day so I think I will qualify for a ticket next week when they can’t sell their allocation.
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Winning stuff > not winning stuff
This is a conversation we've been having since O'Neill, how cups aren't a priority, and there's always bigger fish to fry. During which time we've been humiliated by Arsenal, and put to the sword all too often by countless lesser lights, and despite this 'prioritising' still managing to spend 3 seasons out of the top flight. It's beyond a fucking joke that we've won nothing since 1996. Pisses me off.
This.
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Its going to be like a villa home game at wembley
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Man City have just been banned from Europe for two years.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQwanUyWoAA-av2?format=png&name=small)
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Presume we're in Europe next season then, win or lose the cup final?
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Presume we're in Europe next season then, win or lose the cup final?
No.
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Arse.
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Citeh banned from Europe for 2 seasons.Haha.
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Hell of a precedent that. I imagine there is an appeal process?
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Financially doped wankers.
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If they don't win the appeal then you'd assume Pep will be off in the summer.
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Jack always wanted to play in Europe. There you go lad, no excuses now.
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Bye bye Pep.
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Bid for Sterling after we do them in the final ? I imagine he’ll want to ply in Europe.
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If they don't win the appeal then you'd assume Pep will be off in the summer.
We'll need a new manager for next season, so everything is falling into place.
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They'll probably want to prove a point in the final by pulverising us.
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Looks like we’ll get the test case we wanted. I hope UEFA find some of the money Platini buried.
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Far too lenient, they should be forced to release their 20 top earners with immediate effect.
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If they don't win the appeal then you'd assume Pep will be off in the summer.
We'll need a new manager for next season, so everything is falling into place.
Wouldn't be the first time we've employed a manger that recently lost a League Cup final with Man City.
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Looks like we’ll get the test case we wanted. I hope UEFA find some of the money Platini buried.
You mean against competition law? Or something?
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We should get the Europe spot.
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We should get the Europe spot.
My thoughts exactly.
Also, once the EFL ban them from the League Cup with immediate affect we'll get our 6th win in it awarded.
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We should get the Europe spot.
Even though the LC runners up never have before? It was only the FAC that could happen and that was binned a few years ago which is why we didn't play in Europe in 2015/16.
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We should get the Europe spot.
Even though the LC runners up never have before? It was only the FAC that could happen and that was binned a few years ago which is why we didn't play in Europe in 2015/16.
Who said about being runners up? We should get it just, because.
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(Not mine)
This is how it feels to be City,
This is how it feels to be small,
This is how it feels when your passport's back in the drawer.
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Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.
Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.
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Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.
Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.
But..but...no clubs have gone under since FFP was put in place. Uh, apart from...
Darlington
Portsmouth
Port Vale
Coventry City
Aldershot Town
Bolton Wanderers
Bury
But these clubs don't matter.
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Most of those clubs' difficulties have nothing to with FFP, a fair few of them were in the shit before FFP even started.
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Citeh statement
Manchester City is disappointed but not surprised by today’s announcement by the UEFA Adjudicatory Chamber. The Club has always anticipated the ultimate need to seek out an independent body and process to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence in support of its position.
In December 2018, the UEFA Chief Investigator publicly previewed the outcome and sanction he intended to be delivered to Manchester City, before any investigation had even begun. The subsequent flawed and consistently leaked UEFA process he oversaw has meant that there was little doubt in the result that he would deliver. The Club has formally complained to the UEFA Disciplinary body, a complaint which was validated by a CAS ruling.
Simply put, this is a case initiated by UEFA, prosecuted by UEFA and judged by UEFA. With this prejudicial process now over, the Club will pursue an impartial judgment as quickly as possible and will therefore, in the first instance, commence proceedings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport at the earliest opportunity.
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Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.
Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.
But..but...no clubs have gone under since FFP was put in place. Uh, apart from...
Darlington
Portsmouth
Port Vale
Coventry City
Aldershot Town
Bolton Wanderers
Bury
But these clubs don't matter.
Bury apart, the rest either first went into administration before FFP kicked in, or haven't at all.
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For those still after tickets by any means necessary, the sponsor's Twitter page seems to be running a few competitions offering chances to win...
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Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.
Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.
But..but...no clubs have gone under since FFP was put in place. Uh, apart from...
Darlington
Portsmouth
Port Vale
Coventry City
Aldershot Town
Bolton Wanderers
Bury
But these clubs don't matter.
Bury apart, the rest either first went into administration before FFP kicked in, or haven't at all.
Bolton went into administration in 2019
Coventry City went into administration in 2013
Darlington went into administration in 2012
Port Vale went into administration in 2012
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Leicester were cheating fuckers with their administration.
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And off the top of my head none of them were to do with FFP.
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And off the top of my head none of them were to do with FFP.
Not sure what you mean by that. FFP in League 1 and 2 isn't the same as in the Championship and the Premier League. It's called SCMP, Salary Cost Management Protocol, whereby clubs are only permitted to spend a proportion of their turnover on wages. All of the clubs that went into administration did so because they ran out of money in one way or another, so hard to say it wasn't to do with FFP, as spending too much money on wages is one way that most football clubs get into trouble.
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It's not hard at all. Coventry and ground for example had zero to do with any form of FFP. And the problems were starting before there was any FFP.
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Absolutely ridiculous rule. Entirely set up to make sure nobody could ever challenge the likes of Man United, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid ever again and looks to be working.
Cartels are supposed to be illegal. Hopefully Man City challenge it and get this ridiculous rule in the sea.
But..but...no clubs have gone under since FFP was put in place. Uh, apart from...
Darlington
Portsmouth
Port Vale
Coventry City
Aldershot Town
Bolton Wanderers
Bury
But these clubs don't matter.
Bury apart, the rest either first went into administration before FFP kicked in, or haven't at all.
Bolton went into administration in 2019
Coventry City went into administration in 2013
Darlington went into administration in 2012
Port Vale went into administration in 2012
I'd forgotten Bolton went, but the rest were before FFP had any effect and has been said, were unrelated to its introduction. Compare and contrast with the ten years esrlier.
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I've attended a game at the Ettihad. Might ring em see if I can get some extra tickets...
I went to Maine Road...so presumably I can cherry pick a top seat.
I drove past that awful stadium the other day so I think I will qualify for a ticket next week when they can’t sell their allocation.
I lived in Manchester for 11 years and the Etihad was on my doorstep. So I've got a city account as I've done a fair few champions league fixtures because getting tickets for Juventus. Barcelona, Real and Bayern was easy.
Well I've bought two tickets for my father in law in the away end today as I qualified for a ticket.
This must be a record to qualify and get tickets for both ends of the stadium!
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Man City are not & never have been a big club. They've been bankrolled to win things but they are no more a big club than Chelsea are.
With the right owners & good decisions we'll be back at the top table in a few years.
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Man City are not & never have been a big club. They've been bankrolled to win things but they are no more a big club than Chelsea are.
With the right owners & good decisions we'll be back at the top table in a few years.
Disagree, with respect
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It's not hard at all. Coventry and ground for example had zero to do with any form of FFP. And the problems were starting before there was any FFP.
Yes, but FFP is supposed to prevent that sort of thing happening or there is no point in FFP.
Have a salary cap and a genuinely level playing field, or have a free for all. No compromise that allows the same team to win everything every year, like in Scotland.
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How does FFP stop what was happpening with the Ricoh? Coventry's situation had zero to do with FFP.
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Coventry's problem started in the same way as Forest, Leicester, Bradford City, Ipswich et al - spending more than they earned in an attempt to stay in the Premier League.
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How does FFP stop what was happpening with the Ricoh? Coventry's situation had zero to do with FFP.
You mentioned Coventry. Mentioning things where FFP made no impact doesn't help your case. What are the FFP success stories? Which clubs would have gone under had it not been for FFP? If there aren't any, it's a waste of time. Bin it.
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How does FFP stop what was happpening with the Ricoh? Coventry's situation had zero to do with FFP.
You mentioned Coventry. Mentioning things where FFP made no impact doesn't help your case. What are the FFP success stories? Which clubs would have gone under had it not been for FFP? If there aren't any, it's a waste of time. Bin it.
Look at how many clubs went into administration before FFP, and how many since. There's your answer.
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Good grief. I mentioned Coventry in reply to someone else. FFP can't stop situations like the Ricoh, or incompetent idiots runnings clubs, as we well know. It doesn't solve every possible scenario that can fuck a club over, but it stops a lot of them. FFP obviously works as the number of clubs going into adminstration or out of business before it existed was far higher than have gone since it was introduced.
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It's not hard at all. Coventry and ground for example had zero to do with any form of FFP. And the problems were starting before there was any FFP.
Yes, but FFP is supposed to prevent that sort of thing happening or there is no point in FFP.
Have a salary cap and a genuinely level playing field, or have a free for all. No compromise that allows the same team to win everything every year, like in Scotland.
I endorse this opinion. Along with an equitable redistribution of foreign income streams amongst all PL clubs, which I agree will massively impact us when our takeover of Africa is total, but I have to practice what I preach.
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The FFP rules outside the top flight are aimed at stopping clubs living outside their means, and has worked OK. The different FFP rules for the top flight/Europe are aimed at keeping the elite closed shop in place.
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They'll probably want to prove a point in the final by pulverising us.
They would more than likely want to pulverise Real Madrid and go on to win the CL to prove a point. And that game is a few days before the league cup final.
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Just posted this on the Other Football thread but re-sharing here because I'm a twat like that. The City thing isn't about FFP: https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1228626421628784640
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Leaving an audit trail of your wrong doing, which includes classless insults at the authorities, proves that money cannot buy you class, history or intelligence it seems.
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A story I was told last night regarding Man City when they played at Sheffield United.
Apparently the board were at a particular table in the restaurant at the Hotel at the ground. The players and staff were sat separately.
The execs asked the staff at Copthorne for particular sets of crockery. They didn't have it. So, it was purchased at a cost of £6k (cost absorbed by Man City) . It was then washed etc and offered to them and they said to keep it.
So basically they laid £6k for a meal.
Ridiculous and frivolous.
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I wonder if i buy a city ticket for a home game whther id be able to get a ticket in their end for final 😁
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I wonder if i buy a city ticket for a home game whther id be able to get a ticket in their end for final 😁
Not condoning it all, but a lad I know is a Villa fan, but despite his best efforts, his sons 'support' Manchester City. He took them to one home game last season and because of that, was able to get tickets for the three of them to go to th League a Cup final last season.
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Christ, Old Trafford with gates of about 17k in that case
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I wonder if i buy a city ticket for a home game whther id be able to get a ticket in their end for final 😁
I would imagine the match ticket you bought would have had to have been played for it to count as booking history.
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God help us if we defend loke that against city. It could be a absolute mauling
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Nah, we will be fine. The family Silverware will be coming home! We’ll be running round the Bullring with the cup, we’ll be running round the bullring with the cup.......
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Nah, we will be fine. The family Silverware will be coming home! We’ll be running round the Bullring with the cup, we’ll be running round the bullring with the cup.......
Hehe hope so mate
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Just had a horrible thought...wasn’t Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
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Just had a horrible thought...wasn’t Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Think it was Burnley at home.
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Yeah a home game we lost to Burnley.
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Just had a horrible thought...wasn’t Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Correct. It was our last away game.
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Just had a horrible thought...wasn’t Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Correct. It was our last away game.
Mane hat trick in about 40 seconds
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Im sure that was the week the squad found out the news that Benteke was off. Our form just fell off a cliff.
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Just had a horrible thought...wasn’t Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Think it was Burnley at home.
Yep, we lost away at Southampton and home against Burnley just before the final - it became clear the Sherwood magic was starting to wear off at this point.
Two standout memories from the respective games were getting an earful from a group of lads hanging outside the maccies in Southampton town centre after the game, and being massively impressed with Tom Heaton for Burnley. Remember wishing we would sign him after that.
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Just had a horrible thought...wasn’t Southampton away also our last league game before our mauling in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal?
Correct. It was our last away game.
Mane hat trick in about 40 seconds
One of the lowest points ever for me. We were so bloody dreadful that day. Ot could ahve been 10 pr 11.
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Has anyone received their coach tickets yet? Thanks
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Claret Members with 8+, we ready for 5pm then?
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wierdly I’m a bit more confident of not getting smashed after the Spurs game
I know we lost but played well and managed to look like a proper team that can compete against the so called top six
anyway my hope level is now at a full 95% while my reality level is still a meagre 3.1%
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My Tickets arrived this morning along with a open letter from Christian Purslow about anti-social fan behaviour outside Wembley stadium,hopefully the idiots will take note of it
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Claret Members with 8+, we ready for 5pm then?
Just gearing up now. How many do you reckon fall into this category?
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More than theres tickets left.
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Boom. Signed, sealed and awaiting delivery!
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Boom. Signed, sealed and awaiting delivery!
Good work! See you at Wembley UTV
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Got a good one in area 141, although not without drama....
Logged in queue and admitted after 3 mins or so...then all I could see was 'coming soon' Frantically turned off all script blockers etc., still no good.
Switched browser and was 6500 in that queue
Re-logged in on original browser then each seat I tried had become unavailable....went back to stadium plan and finally got one.
Didn't log out until I had email confirmation...Phew
They dont have to sell all the tickets in 15 minutes, so why don't they throttle the queue for a calmer experience ffs?
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There looks like there's about 350 left unless we are holding back blocks?
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468 left two mins ago.
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What’s the criteria to buy a ticket today?
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What’s the criteria to buy a ticket today?
Claret members 8+
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Just under 300 left.
Hopefully everybody in this criteria manged to buy.
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Have the club been holding some tickets back? Just looked and back up to around 700 available at the moment.
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A few minutes ago there were 708 tickets left, including 220 in blocks 230-237 that would appear to be Club Wembley ones at £125-£150. We got our 3 tickets at £92 for my 2 sons and £47 for me in block 141.
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141 seems to be up and down. Up atm
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Had a quick scoot around the ticket resellers (vermin scumbags more like), if you want a Citeh ticket you can pick them up from about £75 and there's a plentiful supply, Villa tickets start at about £300 + postage + a service charge that some resellers are charging over £200 per ticket for.
Quite honestly the football family can fuck off.
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I make it 736 left. Maybe they released some more.
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I make it 736 left. Maybe they released some more.
It's also people emptying their baskets, putting 3 or 4 in and then only being able to buy 1 or 2.
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I've had a bit of luck.
My mate has a good job at the FA, last night he dropped me a note confirming two Club Wembley tickets...for nowt! Rotters Jnr is a very happy eight year old. He did though ask if we could still sing?
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I've had a bit of luck.
My mate has a good job at the FA, last night he dropped me a note confirming two Club Wembley tickets...for nowt! Rotters Jnr is a very happy eight year old. He did though ask if we could still sing?
Brilliant. Enjoy your day!
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Back up to 800 left.
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Leeds would have sold out the whole stadium, the Nou Camp and the Colosseum by now. Shit support.
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I guess if you were the type of fan to go to 8 homes games out of 13 you'd have probably bought a season ticket, so I guess there aren't that many that qualify.
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Anybody that’s ever been to the Etihad, can have three tickets!. Embarrassing!.
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Anybody that’s ever been to the Etihad, can have three tickets!. Embarrassing!.
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Let's be honest, though, we've spent the last ten years circling the plug hole in the Premier League, waiting for the inevitable, 3 years in the championship, and a season fighting relegation (thus far).
They've been playing in the Champions League, have been to and actually won bigger finals at Wembley, and have won the league more than once.
I don't buy this OMG! Look at them! Anyone who has got an Elbow album qualifies! narrative (even though I've engaged in it myself a bit).
They've had a decade of shed loads of top level matches and silverware, we've had fuck all.
No wonder they're not that arsed about the Carabou Cup final.
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Let's hope, come 1st March, that their team don't give a fuck about the game too.
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Isn't a reason not to go though is it?
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Anybody that’s ever been to the Etihad, can have three tickets!. Embarrassing!.
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Let's be honest, though, we've spent the last ten years circling the plug hole in the Premier League, waiting for the inevitable, 3 years in the championship, and a season fighting relegation (thus far).
They've been playing in the Champions League, have been to and actually won bigger finals at Wembley, and have won the league more than once.
I don't buy this OMG! Look at them! Anyone who has got an Elbow album qualifies! narrative (even though I've engaged in it myself a bit).
They've had a decade of shed loads of top level matches and silverware, we've had fuck all.
No wonder they're not that arsed about the Carabou Cup final.
I reckon if we had been winning trophies non-stop for a decade and were playing against 20/1 underdogs in a major final, I'd be even more keen to go than I am now, burdened by memories of 2015 and the thinking that, if we're honest, we need a bit of a miracle.
I can't understand any Arsenalesque not giving a shit about major cup finals. I wouldn't lose sleep if we ever lost a Charity Shield, but this is hardly the same.
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If I’d supported a team as shit as City for as long as I’ve supported Villa I’d be milking every cup final for as long as I physically could out of blind fear that I’d wake up and it all would have been a dream.
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Personally, I put the league way ahead of the League Cup and that's as a Villa fan.
I went to the Wolves freebie but apart from that, I haven't bothered with any cup game. On the other hand, I've been to every league game with the exception of Norwich away (which I reluctantly missed because it was my brother in laws 60th).
Football isn't cheap and a trip to Wembley is a good £200. There's also the balance of keeping the other half happy.
I fully understand City fans not going to Wembley for this game. I've only just about mustered the enthusiasm myself. I'm far more bothered about how we get on, on Saturday.
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I'd love to go to this. I love living abroad, but I've missed so many trips to Wembley because of it.
I think we'll definitely beat Man City. That's just how it's going to be, as mad as that sounds. It'll be up and down, and nailbiting stuff, but ultimately Jack will have his hands on that Coca Cola Cup trophy (as it'll always be known to me) at the end of the day.
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Any club that goes to wembley 5 times in 12 months might struggle to sell out.
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Don't they struggle to sell out every game at home despite their obvious successes?
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Its poor. There's no reasonable defence of their rapid descent into Arsenalism.
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Personally, I put the league way ahead of the League Cup and that's as a Villa fan.
I went to the Wolves freebie but apart from that, I haven't bothered with any cup game. On the other hand, I've been to every league game with the exception of Norwich away (which I reluctantly missed because it was my brother in laws 60th).
Football isn't cheap and a trip to Wembley is a good £200. There's also the balance of keeping the other half happy.
I fully understand City fans not going to Wembley for this game. I've only just about mustered the enthusiasm myself. I'm far more bothered about how we get on, on Saturday.
Spot on this agree with every word- we live in a time where its easy to go on twitter read all seats are not sold out and bang the tinpot support drum, I remember under the brief success we had under MON some of the very average away followings we had, even the FA cup semi final was not a sell out in our end and its not like we had the prolonged success that City have had- point being is the more games you have, most people on average incomes like myself with a mortgage and a family prioritise and pick and choose
Football is an expensive business, with aways, champions league games, league and FA cup games to fork out for when most are televised anyway, I can more than understand why Man City fans are picking and choosing and don't find a tie against a team that will most likely be less competitive than their community shield tie at the start of the season worth shelling a few hundred notes out for when they play Real Madrid the same week
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Personally, I put the league way ahead of the League Cup and that's as a Villa fan.
I went to the Wolves freebie but apart from that, I haven't bothered with any cup game. On the other hand, I've been to every league game with the exception of Norwich away (which I reluctantly missed because it was my brother in laws 60th).
Football isn't cheap and a trip to Wembley is a good £200. There's also the balance of keeping the other half happy.
I fully understand City fans not going to Wembley for this game. I've only just about mustered the enthusiasm myself. I'm far more bothered about how we get on, on Saturday.
This is pretty much where I'm at. The difference is: I won't use my ticket to go ...
There; I've said it and committed to not going, which makes me feel a little shabby.
It's not a case of being defeatist about the game - several have suggested there may be an upset, and I agree there could be. It's more about the need for a total focus on the League, and I think the LCF is an unnecessary distraction.
(I realise that the 2 are not mutually exclusive ... ; there's a slightly perverse logic in what I'm doing, I accept that)
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As I think it was Bill Paisley once said
“Big Clubs win things”
If we win a week on Sunday it’ll be our 21st Major trophy no matter how much people downplay the League Cup these days. If it’s so unimportant I assume all the other clubs will remove their League Cup wins from their trophy counts as well.......thought not.
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As I think it was Bill Paisley once said
“Big Clubs win things”
If we win a week on Sunday it’ll be our 21st Major trophy no matter how much people downplay the League Cup these days. If it’s so unimportant I assume all the other clubs will remove their League Cup wins from their trophy counts as well.......thought not.
Well said!
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As I think it was Bill Paisley once said
“Big Clubs win things”
If we win a week on Sunday it’ll be our 21st Major trophy no matter how much people downplay the League Cup these days. If it’s so unimportant I assume all the other clubs will remove their League Cup wins from their trophy counts as well.......thought not.
I saw a list of Liverpool’s honours last year and they now appear to be including European Super Cups in their total.
We should therefore do the same so if we win next week in my book that will be our 22nd trophy.
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We shouldn't count European Super Cups as it's a slippery slope to counting Charity Shields which would mean the likes of Everton and Tottenham overtake our trophy count. No fucking thanks.
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We shouldn't count European Super Cups as it's a slippery slope to counting Charity Shields which would mean the likes of Everton and Tottenham overtake our trophy count. No fucking thanks.
I'd like to throw in the Peace Cup and the Hong Kong Sevens.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
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Returns? Everyone who has a ticket has logged on and bought one. The club wouldn't accept returns
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Absolutely no chance.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Why would anyone return their cup final ticket because we’d lost a league game?
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
What a ray of sunshine you are :-) :-)
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
I imagine we will lose ten-nil to Southampton, and everyone will turn up at Wembley just so they can join in with the flagellation and effigy-burning.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Does that also mean if we beat Southampton with a decent display we'll have 100,000 down for the final without tickets ?
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I'd still go to the final even if we were relegated today on a technicality and the whole senior team simultaneously came down with the Coronavirus.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Well I’m returning mine after reading this post
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
What a ray of sunshine you are :-) :-)
Thanks. Just for the record ill be there whther we lose or not. Just because i think some fans will do it doesnt mean i would
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@Dimitri - can you message me after Sunday and I'll take yours off you, even if we lose.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
What a ray of sunshine you are :-) :-)
Thanks. Just for the record ill be there whther we lose or not. Just because i think some fans will do it doesnt mean i would
I've got a bedsheet ready; it could go either way depending on the result against the Saints.
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@Dimitri - can you message me after Sunday and I'll take yours off you, even if we lose.
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Well how did i get a ticket of i hate our club thats the mystery? I must have gone to 8 or more games. But yeah i dislike this club because i dare say some fans might return tickets accoridng to alex. 😂
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Why wouldn't you want to go to Wembley? Even after the inevitable 12-0 defeat and disgraceful performance at Southampton?
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@Dimitri - can you message me after Sunday and I'll take yours off you, even if we lose.
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Well how did i get a ticket of i hate our club thats the mystery? I must have gone to 8 or more games. But yeah i dislike this club because i dare say some fans might return tickets accoridng to alex. 😂
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Maybe the same people who left at half time against Man City and the bloke that left in a huff at half time against Spurs will return theirs. But I doubt it.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
So "7 or 8" people don't represent 30k of the fanbase, but you do?
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
You've made some strange posts of late. Can you even return a ticket anyway?
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
You've made some strange posts of late. Can you even return a ticket anyway?
No you can't return.
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Don`t return the. Send one each to my daughter and me! Cheers
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Maybe the same people who left at half time against Man City and the bloke that left in a huff at half time against Spurs will return theirs. But I doubt it.
Some people near me left on 81 minutes of the semi final second leg. Wonder if they'll do the same at Wembley. Assuming they don't return their tickets next week of course.
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Anybody aware if there are many left?
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About 500-600 roughly.
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Hope some left by 5pm tomorrow.......
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Don't they struggle to sell out every game at home despite their obvious successes?
Watching the tonight against West Ham and there's loads of empty seats. West Ham even giving city a rendition of "empty seats my lord" and "shit support my lord" There have been some very dodgy decisions all in favour of West Ham.I don't want to start a conspiracy but the ref is.......Kevin Friend.
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@Dimitri - can you message me after Sunday and I'll take yours off you, even if we lose.
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Well how did i get a ticket of i hate our club thats the mystery? I must have gone to 8 or more games. But yeah i dislike this club because i dare say some fans might return tickets accoridng to alex. 😂
(https://i.ibb.co/SNKbQkQ/20200219-134851.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jhLmVCV)
Jesus let it go. You obsessed with me or something?
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
So "7 or 8" people don't represent 30k of the fanbase, but you do?
Didnt say that did i?
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Maybe the same people who left at half time against Man City and the bloke that left in a huff at half time against Spurs will return theirs. But I doubt it.
Thats my point colin some may return them or sell them?
Just because it doesnt make sense to some people here doesnt mean it wont happen. Dont see what i have said wrong. But say some just want to beat others for anything they post.
Anyway lets keeo this on subject. Am looking forward to next week 😁
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
Say what you think 😉
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
Say what you think 😉
It just makes me laugh when people come on here and manage the truly unique feat of uniting very nearly every single one of us against their nonsensical opinions and then go on about how we're all 'jumping on them' or somehow missing the point.
95% of the people on here most of the time can't agree what the fucking date is. If they're all agreeing in disagreeing with you, I guarantee you, you're wrong.
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Please villa get some points on the board before the cup final so we can all relax and enjoy it properly.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
Say what you think 😉
It just makes me laugh when people come on here and manage the truly unique feat of uniting very nearly every single one of us against their nonsensical opinions and then go on about how we're all 'jumping on them' or somehow missing the point.
95% of the people on here most of the time can't agree what the fucking date is. If they're all agreeing in disagreeing with you, I guarantee you, you're wrong.
Truth!
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
Say what you think 😉
It just makes me laugh when people come on here and manage the truly unique feat of uniting very nearly every single one of us against their nonsensical opinions and then go on about how we're all 'jumping on them' or somehow missing the point.
95% of the people on here most of the time can't agree what the fucking date is. If they're all agreeing in disagreeing with you, I guarantee you, you're wrong.
Truth!
Oh no it isn't! Erm, oh, yes it actually is. As someone who disagrees with a lot of people with my relentless positivity. This is rather odd.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
So your comparing me to a ADHD 3 year old? So you prove your point by insulting me? Show me a post where I have insulted any poster by name calling ?where I have insulted anyone one on this site. Go on dig it up? Show me a post I have named called anyone ?
Your insult is absolutely pathetic and is bullying. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. How do you do know no one on this site has ADHD or a relative that suffers from it ? Bow your head in shame Paulie
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I knew I was right
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
So your comparing me to a ADHD 3 year old? So you prove your point by insulting me? Show me a post where I have insulted any poster by name calling ?where I have insulted anyone one on this site. Go on dig it up? Show me a post I have named called anyone ?
Your insult is absolutely pathetic and is bullying. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. How do you do know no one on this site has ADHD or a relative that suffers from it ? Bow your head in shame Paulie
He's not comparing you to an ADHD 3 year old. He's saying some of your daft opinions could be rebutted by a 3 year old. Of course he's exagerating a bit, but I know 6 or 7 year olds who would see through some of your posts. Have an opinion and express it, just turn the hyperbole down a bit from 11.
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If we lose this weekend in another woeful display that we tend ti do against Southampton,i bet there will be some returns for the final
Beginning to think you don't like us
What a ridiculous comment.
Just because 7 or 8 of you really you dont represent 30k of the fanbase so you dont know that.
God you cant even have a opinion on here without getting jumped on jesus
The problem with you is not the fact that you express an opinion - we are all welcome to them - it is just that such a large percentage of that which you come out with is utter hyperbolic horseshit which could be deconstructed by an ADHD 3 year old.
So your comparing me to a ADHD 3 year old? So you prove your point by insulting me? Show me a post where I have insulted any poster by name calling ?where I have insulted anyone one on this site. Go on dig it up? Show me a post I have named called anyone ?
Your insult is absolutely pathetic and is bullying. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself. How do you do know no one on this site has ADHD or a relative that suffers from it ? Bow your head in shame Paulie
He's not comparing you to an ADHD 3 year old. He's saying some of your daft opinions could be rebutted by a 3 year old. Of course he's exagerating a bit, but I know 6 or 7 year olds who would see through some of your posts. Have an opinion and express it, just turn the hyperbole down a bit from 11.
Its only daft because you don agree with it. All i said was some fans might return some tickets if we lose on saturday or sell them. What paulie has said is much much worse. But hey you carry in defending that.
Talking about people with ADHD is ridiculous. I know about this as i have someone with the family with it. Its a mental illness do you know the struggle people with ADHD have? So i suggest the poster thinks long and hard before spouting ridiculous things like this in future..
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I’m also the first to call out bullying, disrespect, I don’t even sing anti-blues or anyone chants!l
But the above points are valid, Demetri presuming you are not trolling or on a wind up, to suggest folk will return Wembley tickets because we lose a game, when so so so many are scrabbling for them (am arrived overseas and I could have given mine to a heck of a lot of desperate folk I know) is daft if not a bit insulting.
As was pointed out you weren’t being insulted, but how easily someone could reason your view was wrong, was colourfully pointed out.
It was also going to rub people up the wrong way (as let’s be objective here you seem
To do quite often) when I think you, suggested you hadn’t decided whether you could be bothered to go to Wembley. Can you imagine how that feels to many who can’t go? Of course people are going to say don’t bother then. The latest comment follows that. It does read like trolling.
I also have family with attention difficulties, I also work with folk with them. I found your opinions more uncomfortable than the comment like that, which was colourful but basically valid, to achieve such a universal response on here is unusual, and said with respect, I think you might benefit from taking some of that feedback.
H&V is a wonderful forum where many folk have found solace in the toughest of times, hopefully you’ll stick with it, but as someone said maybe toning down the hyperbole will rub less people up the wrong way, less often.
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Amusing photo of a Villa fan making up the numbers at Man City last night to get access to 3 tickets for Wembley.
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Amusing photo of a Villa fan making up the numbers at Man City last night to get access to 3 tickets for Wembley.
https://twitter.com/villawill84/status/1230247582309453825?s=12
There if anyone wants to see it.
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I’m also the first to call out bullying, disrespect, I don’t even sing anti-blues or anyone chants!l
But the above points are valid, Demetri presuming you are not trolling or on a wind up, to suggest folk will return Wembley tickets because we lose a game, when so so so many are scrabbling for them (am arrived overseas and I could have given mine to a heck of a lot of desperate folk I know) is daft if not a bit insulting.
As was pointed out you weren’t being insulted, but how easily someone could reason your view was wrong, was colourfully pointed out.
It was also going to rub people up the wrong way (as let’s be objective here you seem
To do quite often) when I think you, suggested you hadn’t decided whether you could be bothered to go to Wembley. Can you imagine how that feels to many who can’t go? Of course people are going to say don’t bother then. The latest comment follows that. It does read like trolling.
I also have family with attention difficulties, I also work with folk with them. I found your opinions more uncomfortable than the comment like that, which was colourful but basically valid, to achieve such a universal response on here is unusual, and said with respect, I think you might benefit from taking some of that feedback.
H&V is a wonderful forum where many folk have found solace in the toughest of times, hopefully you’ll stick with it, but as someone said maybe toning down the hyperbole will rub less people up the wrong way, less often.
Thank you for replying in a respectful manner.
I dont troll or wind up. Thats not in my nature however i do believe some may try sell their tickets if we get tonked.. Dont think i have said anything unreasonable in expressibg that opinion.
With my comment about not botherd about going to seeus get tonked. I dont live in brum so i obviously dont agve a ST. Hiwver i go to enoygh games ti qualify for a ticket. If i had chosen not to go that just opens the door for another villa fan to get my ticket. Dont see why anyone should be wound up becaus i chose not to go.be angry at the club not me they set the criteria.
I dont agree how my comment is worse? I havent insulted anyone. Not a person. If you go look into the engels post i openly admitted i was wrong the way i was it waa hwat in the moment. I acknowledge when i am wrong and i was with engels. But comparing to me a ADHD child is not on in any capacity in my view. Its a outrage.
not saying H AND V isnt.im a die hard villa fan have been all my life. But when i am getting comments like " i knew it" which is blatant trolling and throwing insults i will defend myself i feel needed. I see various other negative comments on here its not just me.
Again thank you for your post and i will certainly take your words on board 👍 lets leave it there and get back on subject 😃
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I think Dem is just enjoying himself free from the shackles of the ridiculous moderating on VT, aren't you mate?! ;)
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I think Dem is just enjoying himself free from the shackles of the ridiculous moderating on VT, aren't you mate?! ;)
Hahaha 😂😂😂
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He needs a new keyboard where the letters are all in their proper place though.
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He needs a new keyboard where the letters are all in their proper place though.
Hahaha
He's hitting all the right keys, just not necessarily in the right order...
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Sold out
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I managed to get on but tickets available were over £100!
then in a flash sold out. boo.
telly for me.
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I managed to get on but tickets available were over £100!
then in a flash sold out. boo.
telly for me.
Get back on and keep refreshing.
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Don't worry I'm assured plenty will be returning their tickets after Saturday's heavy defeat.
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Managed to get one but £150, the adult price range was stated as £40-£100 so I'd better get to present the trophy to Jack at that price.
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You get to play at centre half for Man City I believe.
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Don't worry I'm assured plenty will be returning their tickets after Saturday's heavy defeat.
Or they will sell it for double the price.hope that doesnt happen like play off final
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If you get into the site keep refreshing, transactions that don't get completed keep appearing, just got one yay!
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Amusing photo of a Villa fan making up the numbers at Man City last night to get access to 3 tickets for Wembley.
https://twitter.com/villawill84/status/1230247582309453825?s=12
There if anyone wants to see it.
Respect.
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1 available on line block 230
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If you get into the site keep refreshing, transactions that don't get completed keep appearing, just got one yay!
Cheers the Mrs just got a ticket after refreshing 45 minutes after it said sold out, a few tickets keep appearing still.
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That was certainly stressful, I wasn’t quick enough to add the seat to the basket, kept refreshing and got one in the end. UTV
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why have man city been given extra tickets when they cant sell original set , thet have 34800 now to our 33666 ffs surely we should have had them as we have sold out
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Got one too! Come on you Villa boys!!
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3 available now
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why have man city been given extra tickets when they cant sell original set , thet have 34800 now to our 33666 ffs surely we should have had them as we have sold out
Thats a absolute farce
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why have man city been given extra tickets when they cant sell original set , thet have 34800 now to our 33666 ffs surely we should have had them as we have sold out
Thats a absolute farce
It's a quirk of the layout of the stadium, that's all.
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no its not otherwise they would have stated that was the original allocation , so why give them the extra when we could sell wembley on our own ffs
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no its not otherwise they would have stated that was the original allocation , so why give them the extra when we could sell wembley on our own ffs
If there was 45k tickets for our fans we would sell it out easily for this game
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absolutely
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1 available 547
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no its not otherwise they would have stated that was the original allocation , so why give them the extra when we could sell wembley on our own ffs
It was stated on their website on the 31st of January, they've got the east end of the ground with an allocation of 34,854. We have the west end, which has around about a thousand fewer seats.
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Villa sold out their allocation of 33,666.
City's final allocation was 34,854 seats so if City ticket site accurately reflects what's left in that allocation, we' may just very slightly outnumber the Villa. City's initial allocation was Maybe.
City's initial allocation was 33,889 so at some point we must have got an extra 1,000 seats.......
Not according to bluemoon today !!!!
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Man city website for 2019 (https://www.mancity.com/news/tickets-and-travel/tickets-and-travel/2019/january/man-city-carabao-cup-final-ticket-information-details) = 33,889 (west)
2020 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.mancity.com/news/tickets-and-travel/tickets-and-travel/2020/january/man-city-carabao-cup-final-ticket-information) =34,854 (east)
Edit: and I think we did get a few extra tickets from somewhere, our initial initial allocation was 33,095
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Have Man City sold out?
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no !! not yet , struggling to sell club wembley seats i think
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My mates a city fan he said there is around 3-4k left for them
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Villa sold out their allocation of 33,666.
City's final allocation was 34,854 seats so if City ticket site accurately reflects what's left in that allocation, we' may just very slightly outnumber the Villa. City's initial allocation was Maybe.
City's initial allocation was 33,889 so at some point we must have got an extra 1,000 seats.......
Not according to bluemoon today !!!!
Is it me or what?
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Well done to those that did. Not sure if there are still drabs trickling through but I refreshed like an irrational loon for the play off final and got them, then got more for others in the following days. It’s not sensible but determination does sometimes pay off. Also there are spares on the day, a sign (and a think skin towards oppo taking the mick) *inside* the tube station as people are getting out has worked for me before too.
Had a lovely moment after a couple of Nile Specials tonight with my Ugandan wife and very dear brother in law meeting little AV for the first time. Back in our hotel room I concluded a nearly 8 month old is the perfect age for just lots of joyful mucking about. The Mrs spontaneously broke into the Samagoal chant we’ve sung to the baby a fair bit. I knew abandoning a Man U shirt in Africa as a condition of marriage was perfectly reasonable. I’m confident conversion is complete.
Right. Now to find somewhere to watch the match :/
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is it you what ?
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Tickets arrived in the post today. Therefore my irrational prediction is 3-1 Villa.
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Got one earlier, £125.
Would happily add a zero on the end of the price if it guaranteed a Villa win.
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Please delete if not allowed but is there anybody with a 5plus reference that that isn't going and willing to share their reference number and surname? TIA
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Please delete if not allowed but is there anybody with a 5plus reference that that isn't going and willing to share their reference number and surname? TIA
Its sold out mate
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Good news - I've managed to get hold of two tickets!
Not so good - I'm in the 'neutral' area (club Wembley?)
Have any of you guys been in this area before? If so, an I allowed to wear Villa colours?
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Good news - I've managed to get hold of two tickets!
Not so good - I'm in the 'neutral' area (club Wembley?)
Have any of you guys been in this area before? If so, an I allowed to wear Villa colours?
Yes I've been there. Theoretically no club colours. If you happen to wear a blue shirt or a claret jumper, then that's fine.
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Villa sold out their allocation of 33,666.
City's final allocation was 34,854 seats so if City ticket site accurately reflects what's left in that allocation, we' may just very slightly outnumber the Villa. City's initial allocation was Maybe.
City's initial allocation was 33,889 so at some point we must have got an extra 1,000 seats.......
Not according to bluemoon today !!!!
This is all about initial club allocation and the allocation available to fans.
Our increase was as a result of not all players, club officials etc taking up their seat options thus more became available to supporters to buy. I suspect the same situation has happened for Man City.
Just because they've struggled to sell theirs doesn't mean they can suddenly hand over another 1000 tickets in the middle of their block to us. The extras aren't seats on the boundary of the two sets of fans...
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City have confirmed they will cancel tickets for any villa fans that have purchased on their site. The fans should have kept quiet it was only a matter of time until city did something like this. If you have booked recently live in brum and have no booking history it wont be hard for them to identify you. Wasted their money now.
Only way for them not to know is to purchase off one of these third party sites which you pay more.
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Go to Google Maps.
Type empty seats.
Hit search.
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Haha wonderfully childish, I love it.
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Brilliant
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Good news - I've managed to get hold of two tickets!
Not so good - I'm in the 'neutral' area (club Wembley?)
Have any of you guys been in this area before? If so, an I allowed to wear Villa colours?
Yes I've been there. Theoretically no club colours. If you happen to wear a blue shirt or a claret jumper, then that's fine.
Villa socks and boxers it is then!
If, by some miracle, we win, I'll probably be seen running around club Wembley in just those items 😂
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Got one earlier, £125.
Would happily add a zero on the end of the price if it guaranteed a Villa win.
Just to make you really happy I will take £1125 off you when Jack lifts the cup.
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Got me and the old man two tickets as we’d been to 10 home games but I massive,y panicked that I wouldn’t get one so paid silly money for one off stub hub (£180) it’s block 123 row 2 so assume it’s @ corking view. Also have a feeling it might be Man City end. All it said on website was West End block 123 which I assumed was Villa but upon looking I’m not so sure.
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The Spurs game and today have knocked all of my enthusiasm to shreds.
The league is more important. I am so pissed off with our management, coaches and owners.
All they had to do this season was grind out 38-40 points.
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Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha performance like that.
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Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then
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I was going to post that this is an unwanted distraction but our form is so shocking that it really won’t make any difference. Wouldnt bet against a record defeat in a League Cup final.
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Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then
Yep. Tbf we cant be much worse.
The good thing i guessis the odds at the bookies will be a lot bigger for us to win so might win some money of we do it!
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I’m glad I’m not going, I doubt I’ll even watch it after that shit show.
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Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then
Yep. Tbf we cant be much worse.
The good thing i guessis the odds at the bookies will be a lot bigger for us to win so might win some money of we do it!
THAT'S THE SPIRIT DEMI!
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Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then
Yep. Tbf we cant be much worse.
The good thing i guessis the odds at the bookies will be a lot bigger for us to win so might win some money of we do it!
THAT'S THE SPIRIT DEMI!
Hahaha . Im convinced as bad as we we were today that we will then go on to win the cup.
That would be typical villa 😂
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Anybody want to buy my tickets?! ;)
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Anybody want to buy my tickets?! ;)
😂😂😂😂😂
Ill be keepjng an eye on social media!
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Anybody want to buy my tickets?! ;)
As it's a good seat and a fairly big match, I'll go as high as £35.
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Anybody want to buy my tickets?! ;)
As it's a good seat and a fairly big match, I'll go as high as £35.
I'll give you £30 to take them off my hands and not a penny more.
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Doesnt shock me. City are going to murder us witha performance like that.
Let's hope we play better and win then
Yep. Tbf we cant be much worse.
The good thing i guessis the odds at the bookies will be a lot bigger for us to win so might win some money of we do it!
THAT'S THE SPIRIT DEMI!
Hahaha . Im convinced as bad as we we were today that we will then go on to win the cup.
That would be typical villa 😂
Absolutely no chance unless we hand out a few bribes
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"Several have played their way out of the team"
Actually be interested what he does after that comment. I have a feeling Hourihane will start but surely we can't just go in with two CMs. Drinkwater is thankfully cup tied. Surely not a start for Lansbury....
Think we might also be seeing AEM on the right of midfield. Don't think that will be the worst call in the world and he can get some good crosses into the box.
Beyond that call the samaritans.
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It could get quite ugly on the pitch and in the stands.
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"Several have played their way out of the team"
Actually be interested what he does after that comment. I have a feeling Hourihane will start but surely we can't just go in with two CMs. Drinkwater is thankfully cup tied. Surely not a start for Lansbury....
Think we might also be seeing AEM on the right of midfield. Don't think that will be the worst call in the world and he can get some good crosses into the box.
Beyond that call the samaritans.
Hopefully he’s mismanaged himself out of a job.
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Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.
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They'd better get a double digit scoreboard ready for next week.
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Really hard to get excited about this, which kind of sums up the feeling at the moment.
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Isn't record 6 nil by Bury and Man City? 7 Sunday then?
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They'd better get a double digit scoreboard ready for next week.
I don’t think we’ll get that many, even if Otamendi is a bit suspect.
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Another 6-1 hammering if we play as bad as that. Worrying we ard seeing this kind of performance more regularly.
I think smiths stuck and he doeant know what to do or get the best out of them.
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At least I won’t have too long a delay getting out the car park at full time
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Another 6-1 hammering if we play as bad as that. Worrying we ard seeing this kind of performance more regularly.
I think smiths stuck and he doeant know what to do or get the best out of them.
I want you to say something I violently disagree with, so I can use my niche Russian history joke - ‘False, Demitri.’
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They'd better get a double digit scoreboard ready for next week.
I hope not. Then if they score again after they've gone nine-nil up, they go back to zero.
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Go to Google Maps.
Type empty seats.
Hit search.
? Doesn’t work for me.
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Nor me , getting some place in New Zealand called believe it or not EmptySeats
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How to gee up before next week? Me, not the team.
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Another 6-1 hammering if we play as bad as that. Worrying we ard seeing this kind of performance more regularly.
I think smiths stuck and he doeant know what to do or get the best out of them.
Optimistic to think we will score next week.
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Fucking hell what a way to go into a cup final. And add to that a manager who has said publicly he couldn’t give a fuck. Optimism? Not much at all.
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Fucking hell what a way to go into a cup final. And add to that a manager who has said publicly he couldn’t give a fuck. Optimism? Not much at all.
Still dont think no returns or peolle yrying to se their tickets? 😉
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This will be a massacre. The lazy fucks don't work anywhere near hard enough to contain a side like Man City.
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Fucking hell what a way to go into a cup final. And add to that a manager who has said publicly he couldn’t give a fuck. Optimism? Not much at all.
Still dont think no returns or peolle yrying to se their tickets? 😉
Long as you're there Demi giving our lads your undying positivity 😉
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Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.
What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.
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There’s a high percentage of absolute bellends in our away support.
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Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.
What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.
Will be the same at Wembley. I'll never forget queueing for beer in the concourse at half time in the Play-Off Final v Fulham.
Villa fans shoving each other in the queues, some calling Bruce fucking useless and calling out players by name. Almost everyone I came across seemed to be half-cut and ready to start something. Shite behaviour. Fear what'll it be like if we're 4 down to Citeh at half time.
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Fucking hell what a way to go into a cup final. And add to that a manager who has said publicly he couldn’t give a fuck. Optimism? Not much at all.
Still dont think no returns or peolle yrying to se their tickets? 😉
Long as you're there Demi giving our lads your undying positivity 😉
Ill try my best mate just for you 😉
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Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.
What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.
Will be the same at Wembley. I'll never forget queueing for beer in the concourse at half time in the Play-Off Final v Fulham.
2010 was fucking toxic outside between pro O'Neill and against O'Neill.
2015 I was way too smashed to remember.
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Manchester City must be shitting themselves. With uncontrollable laughter. On the other hand, a few non-Villa fans I have spoken to today genuinely think we will cause a bit of an upset and win against all odds.
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It’s hard for the majority of us to feel excited about going into the game next weekend after another gutless performance and defeat today...at the moment it feels very much like going into the lions den...lambs to the slaughter. Unfortunately I couldn’t get a ticket so I won’t be going down there, so whilst I think we could be on the receiving end of a humiliating result, I’ll also be clinging on to the last glimmer of hope and positivity that it’s a game of football and anything can happen. Hope everyone going has a safe journey, an awesome day and roar on the Villa boys regardless of the result...miracles do happen!
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Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.
What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.
Will be the same at Wembley. I'll never forget queueing for beer in the concourse at half time in the Play-Off Final v Fulham.
2010 was fucking toxic outside between pro O'Neill and against O'Neill.
2015 I was way too smashed to remember.
2015 was when I almost gave up going for good. I've never known so many arsehole fans of my club at one game. Wankers all of them.
Then hearing another had got his head stamped on made me wonder what on earth the point was. That was a dark, dark day for me.
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I’m going, not really looking forward to it tbh. This time next week I will hopefully have changed my mind.
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Loads of trouble amongst our lot today.
What's behind all that? Seems to be an increasing problem.
Will be the same at Wembley. I'll never forget queueing for beer in the concourse at half time in the Play-Off Final v Fulham.
2010 was fucking toxic outside between pro O'Neill and against O'Neill.
2015 I was way too smashed to remember.
2015 was when I almost gave up going for good. I've never known so many arsehole fans of my club at one game. Wankers all of them.
Then hearing another had got his head stamped on made me wonder what on earth the point was. That was a dark, dark day for me.
Guess the increasingly later kick offs for these major finals means majority are more tanked up and incidents of regret are more frequent as a result.
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The 96 final was at 5pm I think there was trouble at the Green Man before the game the following year the kick off was moved back to 3pm.
I always remember at the final seeing two guys sat near us having to carry their friend up to his seat as he couldn't walk up the steps he was that pissed doubt he would have remembered much of the game.
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Another 6-1 hammering if we play as bad as that. Worrying we ard seeing this kind of performance more regularly.
I think smiths stuck and he doeant know what to do or get the best out of them.
I want you to say something I violently disagree with, so I can use my niche Russian history joke - ‘False, Demitri.’
Dmitry, surely?
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Based on Smiths post match comments And on the performances
Nyland
Elmo Mings Engels Target
Hourihane Lansbury A tragic cone
Trez Samatta Jack
Changed
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Based on Smiths post match comments And on the performances
Nyland
Elmo Mings Engels Target
Drinky Hourihane Lansbury
AEG Samatta Jack
I’d be amazed if AEG’s horrific injury will see him play.
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Based on Smiths post match comments And on the performances
Nyland
Elmo Mings Engels Target
Drinky Hourihane Lansbury
AEG Samatta Jack
I’d be amazed if AEG’s horrific injury will see him play.
I saw him go off, what is it?
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Nasty one. Clobbered good and proper, blood all down his face, later airlifted to hospital. #thoughtsandprayers
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Nasty one. Clobbered good and proper, blood all down his face, later airlifted to hospital. #thoughtsandprayers
I will light a candle.
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You OK hun?
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I think I'm going to fly to Auz next sunday. So I can totally avoid another embarrassing performance.
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The 96 final was at 5pm I think there was trouble at the Green Man before the game the following year the kick off was moved back to 3pm.
I always remember at the final seeing two guys sat near us having to carry their friend up to his seat as he couldn't walk up the steps he was that pissed doubt he would have remembered much of the game.
Tbh this is what I’m aiming for
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If City are fortunate enough to take the game to penalties they really will be up against it. Their recent penalty record is shocking.
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The only thing going for us is jack plays a blinder and puts another twenty million on his price at the end of the season.
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After another horror show yesterday, I'm dreading the game. As usual the day out will be well and truly spoilt by the football
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Nasty one. Clobbered good and proper, blood all down his face, later airlifted to hospital. #thoughtsandprayers
I have done some research and LBC (Lightly Brushed Cheek) is in the same category as ACL in terms of recovery. So yes #thoughtsandprayers :'(
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AEG's official in jury yesterday was a broken eyelash. Pretty serious stuff. Likely to keep him out for three seconds, minimum.
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After another horror show yesterday, I'm dreading the game. As usual the day out will be well and truly spoilt by the football
I'll be watching at a pub somewhere in Lichfield but reserve the right to leave at half time if it's all going tits up !
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Nasty one. Clobbered good and proper, blood all down his face, later airlifted to hospital. #thoughtsandprayers
I have done some research and LBC (Lightly Brushed Cheek) is in the same category as ACL in terms of recovery. So yes #thoughtsandprayers :'(
Am I right in thinking the injury that has ended Son’s season at Spurs happened after 10 minutes but he finished the game? If only he was a fragile as El Ghazi eh? We’d at least be one point better off.
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Is there anything in the rules to prevent us from putting out the Ladies team?
They appear to have rather more fight about them.
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Oh 👀 seen this on social media. 😉 and its not me before anyone accuses me 😁
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For something we're supposed to be excited about, it's a shame that I can't help but feel like it's going to be a right embarrassment.
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Unless Smith can come up with a tactical masterclass like Ron Atkinson in 1994, we’re not going to compete. Certainly playing 433 or 343 won’t work.
No point in playing Grealish up front as he won’t get the ball. Forget width, pack the midfield and stop them running through the middle where they’re strongest. Free kicks will be the best way for us to get up the pitch.
Other than that, hope City have an off day and we can stay in the game.
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I expect it will be like our fa cup final against arsenal. We wont turn up, game over after the first goal, villa fans to outsing the opposition fans all through the game.
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It's a shame we have been a total shambles since the semi-final.
I am dreading this. League survival is more important to me.
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I had fleeting thoughts after yesterday about getting rid of my ticket. I messaged my son (who’s working in Denmark) to see if he still wanted to go. His reply was ‘hell yeah, I don’t care about the result, just being with you at Wembley following the Villa is enough for me’
What can you say
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I expect it will be like our fa cup final against arsenal. We wont turn up, game over after the first goal, villa fans to outsing the opposition fans all through the game.
Thats how i see it going. If he plays 5 at the back and luiz and nakamba at cm its way too negative.
I wonder if mcginn will be on the bench next week? Boy do we need him back bad.
If i was in hoosing the side id put nakamba luiz and conor in cm.
The big worry fkr me is what the hell we do with rest of midfield. Aeg wss a disgrace yesterfay. Trez was absolutely shocking terrible.
I have no idea what we do. Id be tempted if davis is back play him in the shoulder. If not give lansbury or jota a run. They have been frozen out and nit had as maany opportunities as those two have.
Its tough because our squad just looks so poor. I think our summer business in midfield has geneally been absymal sadly. Id rather have got benrama than both of aeg and trez
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It's a shame we have been a total shambles since the semi-final.
I am dreading this. League survival is more important to me.
I’ve just had a look back and we were a similar shambles before the semi-final. The previous few games - included Southampton (who’d looked terrible til that point), Fulham, & Watford that were all in the range of disappointing to shocking. Only the Burnley game in amongst the run up to the semi final looked anything like we had anything ........then we were left without a single striker.
We’d also already lost heavily to Leicester and didn’t expect anything.
.....but somehow we turned up.
.....so you never know.
KTF
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Ipswich (home), lost 1-0
Leeds (away), lost 2-0
Oldham (home), lost 2-1
Man U (Wembley), won 3-1
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Ipswich (home), lost 1-0.
Leeds (away), lost 2-0
Oldham (home), lost 2-1
Man U (Wembley), won 3-1
I was thinking that just this morning!!
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You OK hun?
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Looking at that photo, I can't see A&E recovering in time.
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Unless Smith can come up with a tactical masterclass like Ron Atkinson in 1994, we’re not going to compete. Certainly playing 433 or 343 won’t work.
No point in playing Grealish up front as he won’t get the ball. Forget width, pack the midfield and stop them running through the middle where they’re strongest. Free kicks will be the best way for us to get up the pitch.
Other than that, hope City have an off day and we can stay in the game.
Who is going to be our Graham Fenton this time?
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Unless Smith can come up with a tactical masterclass like Ron Atkinson in 1994, we’re not going to compete. Certainly playing 433 or 343 won’t work.
No point in playing Grealish up front as he won’t get the ball. Forget width, pack the midfield and stop them running through the middle where they’re strongest. Free kicks will be the best way for us to get up the pitch.
Other than that, hope City have an off day and we can stay in the game.
I'd go 10-0-0 and get everyone to stand on the line for 120 minutes and take it to penalties.
Man City are rubbish from 12 yards.
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Oh 👀 seen this on social media. 😉 and its not me before anyone accuses me 😁
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It's not like we're going to be in a cup final every year, those of us lucky enough to have tickets , especially if youngsters are involved, should absolutely go and have a bloody good day out following the club we've followed through thick and thin for years. Just maybe they'll surprise us. Like those heroes did in 1982 and 1994 - we weren't expected to compete then either.
I was gutted yesterday, and still am today about the Southampton game. But come next weekend I'll be full of hope again. That's what it's all about. If you only want to go to a final when we're nailed on to win, you'll be better off jumping on the next Oil-powered bandwagon that rolls through.
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The kid vassilev seems to have disappeared since we got Baston in. The lad was impressive in cameos against Leicester away and in particular Watford at home. I’d give him a go as opposed to either el ghazi or trez. Despite his lack of pace and hologramness at times, I’d stick Hourihane in on the left and finally let jack have a go back in the centre.
Nothing to lose apart from total humiliation.
Reina
Konsa. Engels. Mings
Guilbert. Nakamba. Targett
Vassilev Grealish. Hourihane
Samatta
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Not Reina. It has to be Nyland.
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Just cant seem to drum up the enthusiasm for this game.
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Nauseous at the thought of the footballing spectacle that awaits at Wembley...... should never feel that way before a final, but nonetheless this is where we are.
UTV. Good luck to the boys. Que sera sera.
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I would go:
Nyland
Konsa, Engels, Mings
Guilbert, Nakamba, Luiz, Hourihane, Targett
Grealish
Samatta
McGinn and Davis on the bench hopefully.
AEG and Trezeguet nowhere near the side.
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If he keeps to his word the players that played them selves out of the team should be Hause Konsa Guilbert AEG Luiz Nakamba
Bet you they all start.
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If we start Marvellous and Luiz - then we are dooooommmed
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Horihane..... Seriously?
Hollogram, cant tackle, cant pass forward, no turn of pace, and we can't expect a free kick 20 metres from their goal.
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If we start Marvellous and Luiz - then we are dooooommmed
Who else can we really start? I think Hourihane will be in but he needs to be part of 3 man central midfield otherwise we'll just have the same issues. The next alternative is Lansbury.
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Can’t see the line up changing much, that’s been one of our major deficiencies, nothing much in reserve to change our fortunes. The only two not playing who could change things are mcginn and davis and they probably won’t be fit enough
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If he keeps to his word the players that played them selves out of the team should be Hause Konsa Guilbert AEG Luiz Nakamba
Bet you they all start.
On his performance yesterday, you could add Reina to that list
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If he keeps to his word the players that played them selves out of the team should be Hause Konsa Guilbert AEG Luiz Nakamba
Bet you they all start.
On his performance yesterday, you could add Reina to that list
Don't think the keeper is going to be a big factor unless we somehow get to a penalty shoot out.
Nyland played well in his games this season but still conceded six v Man. City and could've saved a couple of them.
They are utterly ruthless if you give them enough shots on goal and that's something we're really poor at compared to most teams. Only so much a keeper can do in those circumstances.
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Pepe Reina should not have been signed,he is a pensioner who can barely move.that jog back to the goal after he came up for the corner was a disgrace
Was like watching something from a Pub Team
0-5
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I would go:
Nyland
Konsa, Engels, Mings
Guilbert, Nakamba, Luiz, Hourihane, Targett
Grealish
Samatta
McGinn and Davis on the bench hopefully.
AEG and Trezeguet nowhere near the side.
This is what I would go for too
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If he keeps to his word the players that played them selves out of the team should be Hause Konsa Guilbert AEG Luiz Nakamba
Bet you they all start.
Realistically it was a stupid thing to say, much as I understood the sentiment. half of the problem is that we haven't got many other viable personnel options. IMO what needs to happen is change the formation and tactics and play them differently.
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My overriding hope is that we turn up to have a go.
I’d rather lose, even heavily, if we have chased, tackled and battled for every ball rather than lose by just making up the numbers, rather like the villa park game.
There is no disgrace in losing if everyone of the team has given 100%.
It will be a disgrace if we lose because we were scared before we even started.
And, if everyone gives 100%, you never know.
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That’s how I see it. We don’t want a repeat on that fucking no show against Arsenal in 2015
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I think our strongest defence is Guilbert Mings Engels Taylor
I’m not fussed with the back 3/5 thing go with a back 4 and add another in midfield is what I would go with
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Confidence of our squad looks shot - it will take one hell of an effort from the manager/coaches and players to bring the cup home .....just can't see it
Ron Atkinson pulled off a masterstroke against Newton Heath back in the day - I don't think Smith is as astute as Big Ron plus our squad at that time was far superior to the present one
Citeh to take the foot off the gas at 3-0 to save a complete humiliation
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My overriding hope is that we turn up to have a go.
I’d rather lose, even heavily, if we have chased, tackled and battled for every ball rather than lose by just making up the numbers, rather like the villa park game.
There is no disgrace in losing if everyone of the team has given 100%.
It will be a disgrace if we lose because we were scared before we even started.
And, if everyone gives 100%, you never know.
Amen brother.
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I think go the full Bruce and try something like:
Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Elmo Nakamba Jack Luiz Targett
Samatta
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I think go the full Bruce and try something like:
Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Elmo Nakamba Jack Luiz Targett
Samatta
Good call.
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Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta
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Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta
Do we really want to be that gung ho? We'll get slaughtered.
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Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta
Do we really want to be that gung ho? We'll get slaughtered.
Well we don’t know how to defend so ......
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I think go the full Bruce and try something like:
Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Elmo Nakamba Jack Luiz Targett
Samatta
No it needs more fullbacks.
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Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta
Do we really want to be that gung ho? We'll get slaughtered.
A bit disappointed that Elmo has not been found a place.
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I think go the full Bruce and try something like:
Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Elmo Nakamba Jack Luiz Targett
Samatta
No it needs more fullbacks.
I think it needs more goalkeepers
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League survival is more important to me.
Winning the Cup is important to me. If we had won the FA Cup in 2015 and got relegated I would still be jumping joyously.
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Baring a miracle I can’t see anything other than another Wembley defeat, but the scoreline will depend on which Villa turns up...or doesn’t. Even if we play like we did against Spurs, we will still receive a battering as we are too open and Man City are clinical finishers (most of the time)...play like we did against Southampton and it could be one of the most embarrassing days in Villa history. DS need to tighten up and learn how to scrape wins or draws...there is no honour in dying on your sword in football, just embarrassment and humiliation. This needs to be done for the league run in and needs to start next weekend otherwise it’s going to be a painful day for all involved with and support Villa.
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Nyland Reina
Guilbert Mings Engels Konsa Hause Taylor Targett
Grealish
Samatta
Do we really want to be that gung ho? We'll get slaughtered.
A bit disappointed that Elmo has not been found a place.
He's on the bench.
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What about using Grealish as a possible impact sub if we need to and starting with Elmo in his place in Legion's team?
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Confidence of our squad looks shot - it will take one hell of an effort from the manager/coaches and players to bring the cup home .....just can't see it
Ron Atkinson pulled off a masterstroke against Newton Heath back in the day - I don't think Smith is as astute as Big Ron plus our squad at that time was far superior to the present one
Citeh to take the foot off the gas at 3-0 to save a complete humiliation
Aye only marginally as we were pants in the league. Manure were 10 of 11 full internationals.
I think DS is inept and stumbles across temporary solutions. Big Ron was so canny he knew if we went toe to toe we’d be hammered humiliatingly. So he pulls a left field formation, gees them up for the game of their lives and promises if the play as instructed they’ll win.
Completely caught fergie off guard and whilst they tried to adapt we went 2-0 up. They just went for broke and we countered to get the 3rd and the cup with it. A huge set of balls shown which is what we need now.
Nyland
Elmo Mings Engels Tagett
Trez Hourihane Nakamba Drinkwater
Grealish
Samatta
This is based on how fucked off I am since Sunday, Drinkwater only paying 1st half and a change in formation ala 1994.
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You've all really cheered me up this evening.
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Drinkwater can't play can he ?
As in ineligible.......
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Drinkwater can't play can he ?
As in ineligible.......
Correct
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Drinkwater can't play can he ?
As in ineligible.......
Yep.
So people demanding Luiz and Nakamba are dropped, the alternatives are Lansbury and Hourihane...not that Drinkwater would've been a great option anyway.
Basically we're f***ed.
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DS said in his post Match on Saturday that there's a few players that have played their way out of the Team for Sunday's Cup Final
What will we see ,who will get dropped?
Nyland in for Reina I'd imagine ? Drinky can't play and Lansbury is shocking so not many options for midfield ....
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I think I would put Freddy in right side of mifield, he at least puts in strong challenges
Pepe
Elmo engels mings hause targett
Freddy Douglas Connor
Jack
Samatta
Think engels plays better when mings with him needs constant talking too, same as hause.
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Very much hope that I’m wrong, but this appears to have train wreck written all over it after this weekend. Even when we upset Utd all those years ago, I always thought we had a chance, as we had a decent side back then. The current lot are terrible, if they manage to keep Grealish quiet, then we’re fkd.
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Mate on Saturday morning “I know someone with a spare final ticket, do you want it? “
Me “brilliant, yes I’ll definitely take it”
Me Saturday afternoon after listening to that performance “oh bugger”
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AEG I think will be one.
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I am looking forward to a good day out, but I think that from 4.30 pm it may start to go downhill quite quickly
I just hope that we show more desire and effort than we did against Arsenal in the FA Cup final, otherwise it could be a far worse defeat.
However hoping, that City just think that they only have to show up to beat us, and unexpected results in finals do happen!
Come on Villa - don't let us down, this is costing me and every other Villa fan who is going a lot of money!
And IF we do lose, I don't want to read of any our players going on the lash in London after the final with any of the City players.
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He won’t do anything, same system same players same result.
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I think DS may have been referring to El Ghazi. He showed a lack of desire on Saturday. Unless he was concussed which i very much doubt. He blatantly ignored Mings & Grealish when they both tried to get him off the pitch so we could take the corner which i found very strange. Of course i'm just guessing but there seems to be some bad blood there.
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I thought that was a bit shit too. Injured or not, he only had to roll a foot to the right to allow play on. Maybe he didn’t want exposed with a player short in case the broke away quick after the corner. But it was odd-looking.
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To have any chance of springing a surprise, we have to take a risk by changing the formation and line up. Just like Big Ron did in 94, as others have mentioned.
More of the same will just leave us wide open in midfield and we’ll get comfortably beaten, so I’d go with a 4141, reverting to 451 when necessary. I would drop those who are either woefully out of form / just not good enough / “played themselves out of the team” - AEG, Trez, Hause and Nakamba. Bring in Connor for his threat from set pieces and long range shooting. Bring in some more defensively minded players as if we try to play City at their own game, they will destroy us.
Then, pray that Wednesday’s huge game in Madrid takes it out of City, mentally and physically.
Pray that Jack has the game of his life.
Just generally pray.
(I know, I’m clutching at straws).
Nyland
Guilbert Engels Mings Taylor
Hourihane
Elmo Luiz Jack Targett
Samatta
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Playing that team they may as well enter the pitch carrying a massive white flag. We have to attack, we aren't good enough to play defensively, but we are capable of scoring. Play with six defenders and it'll be an Arsenal-style abject surrender.
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Watford have never recovered from their 6-0 mauling by City in the Cup Final last May - if they put us to the sword like that neither will we. Only a win will do here to galvanize a late charge to avoid the drop.
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Playing that team they may as well enter the pitch carrying a massive white flag. We have to attack, we aren't good enough to play defensively, but we are capable of scoring. Play with six defenders and it'll be an Arsenal-style abject surrender.
Maybe, but Elmo and Targett can be decent going forward so I wasn’t suggesting playing to defend but being more able to defend when needed.
I suppose that’s why Dean is a PL manager whereas I manage an Under 11s team who play 9-a-side with unlimited substitutions allowed which helps if I do get my selections wrong!
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If we could take them to pens - somehow we have a chance as city have been reallg woeful penalty record.
Do they do ET for sure in a final? Not straight to pens?
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Drinkwater can't play can he ?
As in ineligible.......
So play him. Realise after 30 seconds that we've fucked up and concede?
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Nyland
Elmo Engels Mings Taylor
Nakamba
Vassilev Grealish Hourihane Targett
Samatta
Subs: Reina, Guilbert, Konsa, Hause, Luiz, Baston, Trez.
If McGinn is fit enough to be on the bench, he should start. He won't be.
I'd toy with putting Guilbert and Elmo in, but I worry if we go too defensively they'll hammer us, which is what happened before.
City are bloody great but we can score goals too.
I wanted Reina in, but given our league form, I'd bring Nyland in and show faith. He's done well in the competition and maybe he's the talisman.
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Nyland
Elmo Engels Mings Taylor
Nakamba
Vassilev Grealish Hourihane Targett
Samatta
Subs: Reina, Guilbert, Konsa, Hause, Luiz, Baston, Trez.
If McGinn is fit enough to be on the bench, he should start. He won't be.
I'd toy with putting Guilbert and Elmo in, but I worry if we go too defensively they'll hammer us, which is what happened before.
City are bloody great but we can score goals too.
I wanted Reina in, but given our league form, I'd bring Nyland in and show faith. He's done well in the competition and maybe he's the talisman.
Vassilev is your Graham Fenton wild card I assume Drummond !?
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Yep!
He's got pace, which will help Elmo, and he can finish too so can press up front. I reckon there's a bit of a pass and shot in that team and we're better when we try and attack.
On another note, Man City have to focus on two games this week, we've got this one only. Hopefully that will allow us time to prepare.
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Buzzing for the day but not the game, let's be honest it will be a great day out ruined by the football. We're going to get humiliated and embarrassed. Simply don't see any way in which we win the game; tactically so naive, defence is a shambles and we concede 2+ in virtually every game away from home and we're not going to score 3+.
1-5 defeat
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I'll be surprised if we keep it below 5. Probably end up with a toxic atmosphere in amongst our end. Smith calling the players out, snippets coming out during the week after about how disilusioned the players are etc.
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Drinkwater can't play can he ?
As in ineligible.......
So play him. Realise after 30 seconds that we've fucked up and concede?
They are then awarded the game with a 3-0 score line - may be better than actually fulfilling the fixture.
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I'll be surprised if we keep it below 5. Probably end up with a toxic atmosphere in amongst our end. Smith calling the players out, snippets coming out during the week after about how disilusioned the players are etc.
Agree about the atmosphere in our end. As Ads said there was a fair bit of trouble at Southampton in the ground and by the coach park after the game, all amongst our own fans. You can already see the cameras catching our fans fighting each other in the stands for the whole country to see on Sunday. Didn't it happen before at Wembley, the Arsenal final maybe? Seem to recall pictures and videos of our fans fighting each other.
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Wahay! We've got 1 goal to look forward to being scored according to a previous poster's prediction . Bet it goes to var and gets disallowed. Boo!
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Nyland
Elmo Engels Mings Taylor
Nakamba
Vassilev Grealish Hourihane Targett
Samatta
Subs: Reina, Guilbert, Konsa, Hause, Luiz, Baston, Trez.
If McGinn is fit enough to be on the bench, he should start. He won't be.
I'd toy with putting Guilbert and Elmo in, but I worry if we go too defensively they'll hammer us, which is what happened before.
City are bloody great but we can score goals too.
I wanted Reina in, but given our league form, I'd bring Nyland in and show faith. He's done well in the competition and maybe he's the talisman.
along with El Ghazi, I think maybe Reina is one other who may have played his way out of the Wembley 11, if he was ever in it. I’d give Nyland the nod in goal. Not sure what else we can do. Maybe Vassilev and if we really want to go left field Louie Barry. I’d probably have Guilbert over Elmo. Just wish McGinn was fit for this. Midfield looks piss weak
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I want to be hopeful. I want to believe that in a one off game anything can happen. In Jack Grealish we have a player capable of causing all the top domestic teams trouble. I want to think that the recent poor performances have been due to players saving themselves for the cup final and that afterwards the league performances will pick up.
But the reality is:
* Villa don’t keep clean sheets
* The number of high scoring opportunities we give to all opposition is one of the highest -if not the highest-in the Premier league and I think in all top European leagues. And it hasn’t reduced since the start of the season despite the change in shape with more defenders.
* Villa’s form has been poor.
* Apart from the Leicester semi final Villa don’t beat the top teams.
* Villa’s plan is to give Jack Grealish the ball and hope he does something. There is no plan B.
* Villa still haven’t cut out giving away stupid mistakes 7 months on from the first game of the season last August.
DS may also have backed himself into a corner by saying some players have played their way out of the cup final with the performance at Soton. Where does he go from there if Villa don’t win or if there are not wholesale changes made.
It’s horrible to be this negative going into a cup final which is something we all want to be in. I’m hoping a load of people will point out all the reasons I’m wrong and make me change my mind to be hopeful for Sunday and beyond.
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Just tweak the current system and play 3 5 1 1 not as someone else alluded to this 2 wide forward shit which leaves us so open in the middle.
Nyland - as he's the cup keeper and deserves it after Leicester
Konza
Engels
Mings
Fred or Elmo
Marv
Doug
Conor
Targett
Jack
Samatta
Subs: Reina Elmo or Fred Trez Barry Davis Vassilev Hause
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If we could take them to pens - somehow we have a chance as city have been reallg woeful penalty record.
Do they do ET for sure in a final? Not straight to pens?
They are good at pens when it matters, beat Chelsea in last year's final on penalties.
Would be interesting if we'd bring Reina on with a minute left if it was going to a shoot out, I'd imagine so.
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I want to be hopeful. I want to believe that in a one off game anything can happen. In Jack Grealish we have a player capable of causing all the top domestic teams trouble. I want to think that the recent poor performances have been due to players saving themselves for the cup final and that afterwards the league performances will pick up.
But the reality is:
* Villa don’t keep clean sheets
* The number of high scoring opportunities we give to all opposition is one of the highest -if not the highest-in the Premier league and I think in all top European leagues. And it hasn’t reduced since the start of the season despite the change in shape with more defenders.
* Villa’s form has been poor.
* Apart from the Leicester semi final Villa don’t beat the top teams.
* Villa’s plan is to give Jack Grealish the ball and hope he does something. There is no plan B.
* Villa still haven’t cut out giving away stupid mistakes 7 months on from the first game of the season last August.
DS may also have backed himself into a corner by saying some players have played their way out of the cup final with the performance at Soton. Where does he go from there if Villa don’t win or if there are not wholesale changes made.
It’s horrible to be this negative going into a cup final which is something we all want to be in. I’m hoping a load of people will point out all the reasons I’m wrong and make me change my mind to be hopeful for Sunday and beyond.
*Villa score goals and the game is about scoring more than the opposition.
*We have Nyland who has a great shot-stopping ratio in this competition and was Man of the Match in the Semi. Leicester out-shot us by more than 3:1.
*Yet we are in the Final for a reason. We have beaten Crewe, Brighton, Wolves, Liverpool and Leicester (the latter two were both above Man City at the time of our victories)
*We beat Liverpool. Their only defeat until last week.
*That's not the plan. But he's a great player who can cause lots of damage, to pretty much any team. He has a great knack of scoring good goals and assisting others. And, barring a disaster, he'll be lining up on Sunday as our Captain.
*Mistakes happen. Every team make them. Who's to say, being roared on by our passionate supporters in a Wembley final (that could be their last) that our players won't step up.
Smith will make changes. Nyland will come in. AEG will be out and when he comes on as a sub later, he'll have a point to prove. Like he did at Wembley when he last played there.
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If we could take them to pens - somehow we have a chance as city have been reallg woeful penalty record.
Do they do ET for sure in a final? Not straight to pens?
They are good at pens when it matters, beat Chelsea in last year's final on penalties.
Would be interesting if we'd bring Reina on with a minute left if it was going to a shoot out, I'd imagine so.
I wouldn't.
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2-4 to Man.City
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We beat Liverpool under 23s, not Liverpool. You know and I know that a full strength Liverpool would probably have beat us. I know anything can happen and I am hoping that in a one off game it does, Man City are below par, and we play as we never have and win the bloody thing. In all honestly I dont think we will win. I will go and sing and hopefully have a great day.
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I'd go with;
Reina
Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert
Hourihane
Nakamba
Luiz
Grealish
Davis
Samatta
I'd change the system as I think Hause and Konsa have been poor and error ridden for too long. Engels and Mings are our best centre halves.
I'd have Daivs as the ball will stick. A long ball is still an out ball and I'd back him physically against their defenders.
I'd have Nakamba and Hourihane very disciplined as a defensive two to try and choke space. Onus on Hourihane to find a pass. Luiz has a decent turn of pace. Jack can play where he likes.
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Davis is, unsurprisingly, injured.
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Back in training today.
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Back in training today.
If he's fit I'd put him in too. The ball sticks to him and would give us some respite. With Samatta they could cause a stir.
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We beat Liverpool under 23s, not Liverpool. You know and I know that a full strength Liverpool would probably have beat us. I know anything can happen and I am hoping that in a one off game it does, Man City are below par, and we play as we never have and win the bloody thing. In all honestly I dont think we will win. I will go and sing and hopefully have a great day.
We beat the team put out in front of us. We were beating them in the league until the final minutes when they snuck the win.
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If football always ran to form no one would watch it - anything can happen on the day.
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Davis and Samatta…..yes please.
This should be easy to accommodate by dropping AEG (although I appreciate how difficult that is given his superhero, manly, world saving, win at all cost, over my dead body heroics at the weekend)
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Of course we have a chance, the history of the game is littered with teams winning games against much better sides. I do have to say though that trying to pass off beating the youngest side Liverpool have ever fielded as any kind of achievement is pushing it.
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99 times out of 100 we get beat on Sunday, regardless of how well or not we play. I have no confidence we'll get anything but beat, but there still remains a very remote possibility that something inexplicable happens and we win.
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Of course we have a chance, the history of the game is littered with teams winning games against much better sides. I do have to say though that trying to pass off beating the youngest side Liverpool have ever fielded as any kind of achievement is pushing it.
Well, yes, I know that but I'm clinging on to the hope that the records will show that we beat them and that we gave them a great game in the League too.
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Reality is, if Man City are on it, we're fucked, If they are really on it and we don't turn up it could be humiliating. But if we turn up and they have an off day, and they are prone to them this season, then it's very much game on.
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I'd go with;
Reina
Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert
Hourihane
Nakamba
Luiz
Grealish
Davis
Samatta
I'd change the system as I think Hause and Konsa have been poor and error ridden for too long. Engels and Mings are our best centre halves.
I'd have Daivs as the ball will stick. A long ball is still an out ball and I'd back him physically against their defenders.
I'd have Nakamba and Hourihane very disciplined as a defensive two to try and choke space. Onus on Hourihane to find a pass. Luiz has a decent turn of pace. Jack can play where he likes.
We need to talk about that midfield.
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If we could take them to pens - somehow we have a chance as city have been reallg woeful penalty record.
Do they do ET for sure in a final? Not straight to pens?
They are good at pens when it matters, beat Chelsea in last year's final on penalties.
Would be interesting if we'd bring Reina on with a minute left if it was going to a shoot out, I'd imagine so.
I wouldn't.
Well Reina has already saved a penalty for us, saved one for Milan in his only game for them in October and was part of many winning penalty shoot outs for Liverpool so assume he saved some in those games.
Can't remember if Nyland saved any penalties in the championship, possibly one?
I don't for one second think we'll be at a point where we'll need to make that decision though.
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I'd go with;
Reina
Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert
Hourihane
Nakamba
Luiz
Grealish
Davis
Samatta
I'd change the system as I think Hause and Konsa have been poor and error ridden for too long. Engels and Mings are our best centre halves.
I'd have Daivs as the ball will stick. A long ball is still an out ball and I'd back him physically against their defenders.
I'd have Nakamba and Hourihane very disciplined as a defensive two to try and choke space. Onus on Hourihane to find a pass. Luiz has a decent turn of pace. Jack can play where he likes.
We need to talk about that midfield.
The alternative is Henri Lansbury.
If Hourihane starts as I suspect we need to show some ambition and actually win him some corners to take. No corners in the FA cup final suggests it's not a given if we're camping on the edge of our penalty area.
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Just hope Madrid kick lumps out of them and they lose the game so really need a big effort on the return leg the following week
Other than that I do not think I have ever been to Wembley with such a negative feeling - which is really sad
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Whilst I'm not writing us off, I am preparing myself for a loss. I just hope we turn up and give them a game. About 100 times what 'turned up' against Southampton.
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I didn't qualify for a ticket until tonight at 5, and I was kind of relieved to see it's sold out. I would have tried to get a ticket more out of habit than anything but I'm not sure I want to spend a small fortune and a whole day to witness it, so resigned am I to it most likely being a proper humping. Not even sure I'll want to watch it on TV. Sad to feel like that, but I do.
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Just hope Madrid kick lumps out of them and they lose the game so really need a big effort on the return leg the following week
Other than that I do not think I have ever been to Wembley with such a negative feeling - which is really sad
I’ve been very lucky to have gone to all our Wembley appearances since spurs in 1970 and I too have never felt so pessimistic. Can only hope City fail to take us seriously. First time I don’t feel nervous though, wish I did.
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The odds are stacked against us...hugely, massively.
The team has a regular tendency to 'not turn up'.
But, despite all the doommongery, its a cup final for fecks sake.
Virtually every club in the country would want to be there on Sunday and it might be a long time before we are in another one.
I have put the misery of the weekend behind me (for now).
Lets just fecking enjoy being cup finalists for a few days.
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I don't know. The inevitability of the defeat makes it a bit of a chore and totally overshadows the usual enjoyment of being at Wembley.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Villa at Wembley again in a cup final I just hope and pray we perform a miracle and bring the cup home I know we are massive underdogs but I still believe we can do it I'm praying to every god out there to get us a win at Wembley.
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I’m not looking forward to it.
Weather is likely to be sh%t, football likely to be sh%t and pub likely to be sh%t.
I was going to stay at home but I was persuaded to go. Hopefully I’ll be a bit more positive come Sunday.
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Just a question - are we bigger underdogs than we were against Spurs in 1970?
Lets enjoy it, who knows we may never get to another final?
When I am walking up towards Wembley on Sunday I will be so excited and looking forward to us see us win (even at my age)
If this was the other way round and we were massive favourites, we would all still think that we would lose
We are ASTON VILLA - Lets get behind the team (I am just off to church to pray for the miracle)
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Just a question - are we bigger underdogs than we were against Spurs in 1970?
Lets enjoy it, who knows we may never get to another final?
I think we are, we go into the game lacking structure, confidence and ability
I would not be surprised if the players put in a performance though.
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Narrow defeat. Can’t honestly see us beating them.
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Narrow defeat. Can’t honestly see us beating them.
By narrow, do you mean less than a score which gets spelt out in letters as well as the number on the tv results e.g Man City 7 ( seven) ?
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A new cup record loss if we play like we did at the weekend.
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Saturday was incredibly disappointing and we do have to get our League form sorted out and sharpish.......
BUT.....what the fuck is wrong with all of you....
It’s Wembley, it’s a Cup Final, we’re there, 90 other clubs aren’t. This is what being a fan is all about, this is why I went to Crewe and Brighton away and went mad in a bar in Cape Verde watching the Leicester home leg. It’s why I go to Football, the trophies. I realise there are hollow laughs at that comment but nothing is easy in Football, you’ll invariably be let down more than you’re pissed up singing Sweet Caroline, you’ll be swearing and hating your own club more than any other.
There was a discussion on here a few weeks back about the prospect of Jack Grealish leaving the club and a fatalism narrative that far too many of our support have bought into admittedly as a result of bitter experience. Well we need to stop going down that rabbit hole for this Final as well. It’s about time we all got a grip, got down to Wembley and got behind our team even if we get stuffed. There are people in our history , Saunders and Taylor to name but two , who would have looked at being an underdog and unfancied as a team and would have relished the opportunity to have a crack. Where’s that spirit now?
Let’s also not forget this little stat:
Aston Villa - 20 Major trophies
Manchester City - 19 Major trophies
Anyone want to see them draw level? Thought not....
We may not be a super club by the modern definition with the GDP of a small failed state but fuck me we’re still Aston Villa, we’re still relevant and we’ve got a chance to show what this club is about. Wembley may be a corporate shithole of the highest order but you’re going down to represent a true giant of the English game no matter how tarnished that reputation has become, no matter how much piss taking we get from others. Let’s stop talking ourselves into an defeat, yeah we may get dicked but I’d rather go down supporting my team with a positive attitude than throwing my toys out the pram because we didn’t play 4-5-1 or Dean didn’t make the right subs. Our support does make a difference, let’s see if it can help on Sunday.
We’re Aston Villa, whether born to it or whether you chose it, don’t ever fucking forget it.
Up the Fucking Villa.
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No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that. Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.
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No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that. Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.
I’m the same about some of the constant doom laden stuff as well. Like you I’ll enjoy the day no matter whether we win lose or draw.
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Hating positive posts about a cup final seems a tad bizarre. We all realistically know that we're massive underdogs but hating that someone is positive is weird.
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No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that. Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.
There's a difference between going there in hope rather than expectation, and some of the stuff that is again all over this thread. I've read people saying they wish weren't going, that it is going to be an embarrassment and that come the end of the match we will all be fighting amongst ourselves! This is the week of a cup final, one taking place about 20 months after we were worried about not having a club at all much less be one game away from competing in Europe again.
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Just looking for us to replicate the effort and display we gave when playing Liverpool in the cup semi final please.
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If all of the City first teamers pick up injuries in The Champions league this week I would be very positive.
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If all of the City first teamers pick up injuries in The Champions league this week I would be very positive.
errr still no , they have a squad
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I know all this positivity is infectious
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I was the most positive person on earth about the final until I went to Southampton on Saturday. The ‘performance’ was a disgrace and has left a real bad taste in my mouth.
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Hating positive posts about a cup final seems a tad bizarre. We all realistically know that we're massive underdogs but hating that someone is positive is weird.
That isn't what I said though. Positivity is good, but chest-beating posts like that I don't like. Each to their own.
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The only thing I'm clinging to is that we were shite in the run up to the 1994 Final. While it is far from ideal, as we are in a relegation fight for our lives, we wouldn't be the first or last team to be distracted by an impending cup final, and produce a much better standard than expected in the final itself.
I'm choosing to ignore the fact that we were shit in the run up to the 2015 FA Cup Final as that doesn't suit my argument.
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The only thing I'm clinging to is that we were shite in the run up to the 1994 Final. While it is far from ideal, as we are in a relegation fight for our lives, we wouldn't be the first or last team to be distracted by an impending cup final, and produce a much better standard than expected in the final itself.
I'm choosing to ignore the fact that we were shit in the run up to the 2015 FA Cup Final as that doesn't suit my argument.
We were shite for the rest of the season in 94. Probably best we don't look for comparisons!
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No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that. Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.
Get over yourself.
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We beat Liverpool under 23s, not Liverpool. You know and I know that a full strength Liverpool would probably have beat us. I know anything can happen and I am hoping that in a one off game it does, Man City are below par, and we play as we never have and win the bloody thing. In all honestly I dont think we will win. I will go and sing and hopefully have a great day.
We beat the team put out in front of us. We were beating them in the league until the final minutes when they snuck the win.
So err Liverpool won? Look I want Villa to win, if i could make Villa win by only thinking positive thoughts, then I would, but I can’t make Villa win by my thoughts, nor can I bend spoons, nor can I predict the lottery tickets or talk to my nans dead budgie, nor to my dead nan. What I can do is go and support them. Do I think they will win, no unfortunately, do I hope I’m wrong, bloody hell YES
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Entirely different circumstances granted, but I’m pretty sure we were the overwhelming underdogs against Bayern Munich.
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Of course we're probably going to lose but it's my first ever trip to Wembley so I am going to make sure I have a fun day regardless. UT effing V.
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Get those prayer mats out Aston Villa fans
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Entirely different circumstances granted, but I’m pretty sure we were the overwhelming underdogs against Bayern Munich.
Bayern were favourites but don’t recall it being anything like this weekend’s situation
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If it gives anyone hope, Wigan were in poor form heading into their FA Cup final win against Man City.
The two games prior were a 3-2 loss at home to Swansea, and a 4-1 battering away at Arsenal.
Wigan were 9/1 to win in 90 minutes, whilst we're 10/1 to win the cup overall (only comparison I could find)
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They also got relegated.
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They also got relegated.
Of course.
If we're going to go down (and we might do), I'd rather we go down with the cup.
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I don't understand going into a final utterly resigned to defeat despite the fact that it is highly likely.
Football fans live on the oxygen of hope, otherwise why support anyone other than those nailed onto to win things? Because it is more than that, it is your town or City, your friends, your memories, your heroes, your family. That's why we're all spending money, time and our precious patience on a Sunday afternoon in February. We might be on a hiding to nothing but while there is hope there is reason to be, for any football fan.
I hope we win, we probably won't but I'll love Sunday.
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I don't understand going into a final utterly resigned to defeat despite the fact that it is highly likely.
Football fans live on the oxygen of hope, otherwise why support anyone other than those nailed onto to win things? Because it is more than that, it is your town or City, your friends, your memories, your heroes, your family. That's why we're all spending money, time and our precious patience on a Sunday afternoon in February. We might be on a hiding to nothing but while there is hope there is reason to be, for any football fan.
I hope we win, we probably won't but I'll love Sunday.
Well said, Nev!
I'm seeing Sunday as a wonderful chance for a day out with friends and family, surrounded by the Claret and Blue colours I love.
Nice brucie bonus is getting to see Jack lead the team out in a major final.
I'll enjoy the game being nowhere near as stressful as the two play-off finals!
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I'll repeat what I wrote yesterday - the day I can't get childishly excited over the Villa playing in a proper cup final is the day I find a new hobby.
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If it gives anyone hope, Wigan were in poor form heading into their FA Cup final win against Man City.
The two games prior were a 3-2 loss at home to Swansea, and a 4-1 battering away at Arsenal.
Wigan were 9/1 to win in 90 minutes, whilst we're 10/1 to win the cup overall (only comparison I could find)
Villa are 20/1 on Betfair to win in 90 minutes
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Maybe as the week goes on I'll feel excited, but not at the moment. I just cannot see how we win when we defend as poorly as we are, so loose in midfield and so prone to gifts from poor individual errors.
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Nev, I’ve been feeling really fed up the last couple of days, resigning myself to relegation. Thinking why am I spending literally hundreds on sundays cup final, when we’re likely to get hammered.
But I bloody love your post, absolutely 100% spot on. It’s the hope that kills, but what’s the bloody point if you haven’t got it.
Feck it we lose we lose, but you never know and some of those players owe a big peformance
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Maybe as the week goes on I'll feel excited, but not at the moment. I just cannot see how we win when we defend as poorly as we are, so loose in midfield and so prone to gifts from poor individual errors.
As things stand I’m struggling to muster any enthusiasm, I’ve been really positive all season, but Saturday killed me. But....come Thursday/Friday I just knows the nerves and excitement and I’ll be convincing myself we can somehow do it, no logic or reasoning.
After Saturday I miserably said to my near 10 year old ‘what do you think about the cup final’ he looked like I was mad, and just said it can’t wait’!! Although just a kid he’s been going down since relegation season, so has seen some shite as well as the 10 game run. I’m taking a leaf out of his book, we lose heavily it’s just what we expected.....but you never know
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Drinkwater can't play can he ?
On the evidence so far yes he can't.
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A new cup record loss if we play like we did at the weekend.
You are making a big assumption that City are better than Southampton.
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Don’t know if this has been captured elsewhere but with the current penalty placed on Man City by UEFA will that mean that we automatically get the Europa league place even if we lose Sunday?
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NO. Place goes to League position.
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Hating positive posts about a cup final seems a tad bizarre. We all realistically know that we're massive underdogs but hating that someone is positive is weird.
That isn't what I said though. Positivity is good, but chest-beating posts like that I don't like. Each to their own.
The same could be said of the ultimate pessimist posts spouting endless misery, that everything is shit, we're already down, have already lost, and that the world will end. At least the positive ones are trying to give some hope.
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Even if we lose, we'll go straight into the last 8 of next season's Champions Lesgue, with a home tie for the 2nd leg.
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I'm positive we are going to lose on Sunday.
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I'm positive we are going to lose on Sunday.
I think everyone is. Odds range from 14-1to 22-1 on a Villa win.
I've not looked on specific scores etc but some of those odds will be nuts.
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Those odds are on us to win in ninety minutes. We are only around 10/1 to lift the trophy. Not that I'll be rushing out to put my life savings on it.
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No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that. Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.
I’m the same about some of the constant doom laden stuff as well. Like you I’ll enjoy the day no matter whether we win lose or draw.
There's no doubt our fans will be in great voice pre match and as soon as the game kicks offs. Will likely be louder than Man. City who after their own long trophy drought are probably seeing this as just another game to win a trophy and even an inconvience with Real Madrid this week.
Trouble for me....will the team go out believing they can at least compete if not win? Bar a maturing Grealish the 2015 team had much more top level experience and quality in the 11 we put out compared to Sunday and the way we played was an incredible disappointment.
All the singing in the world won't matter if we go out and can't even do the basics like the league game in January e.g. tackling, marking and closing down.
Edit: I'd be more confident if we'd actually picked up a decent number of results against good teams over the season.
It's really slim pickings this season. Even in 2014-15 we won at Anfield and also at Spurs and drew 1-1 with Man. United with 10 men so showed we could raise our game and dig in to get results although we chose not to do any of that v Arsenal.
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NO. Place goes to League position.
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Typical (Thanks). Sure if we’d have been close in the league it would have been given to cup finalists instead (I realise it will have been decided before the start of the season but 2003/2004 still rankles).
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No offence at all but I really hate rah rah posts like that. Well done on trying to be positive, but I'm going there intending to enjoy the day but throughly convinced we're going to lose.
I’m the same about some of the constant doom laden stuff as well. Like you I’ll enjoy the day no matter whether we win lose or draw.
There's no doubt our fans will be in great voice pre match and as soon as the game kicks offs. Will likely be louder than Man. City who after their own long trophy drought are probably seeing this as just another game to win a trophy and even an inconvience with Real Madrid this week.
Trouble for me....will the team go out believing they can at least compete if not win? Bar a maturing Grealish the 2015 team had much more top level experience and quality in the 11 we put out compared to Sunday and the way we played was an incredible disappointment.
All the singing in the world won't matter if we go out and can't even do the basics like the league game in January e.g. tackling, marking and closing down.
Edit: I'd be more confident if we'd actually picked up a decent number of results against good teams over the season.
It's really slim pickings this season. Even in 2014-15 we won at Anfield and also at Spurs and drew 1-1 with Man. United with 10 men so showed we could raise our game and dig in to get results although we chose not to do any of that v Arsenal.
I’m going to contradict myself here, as I’ve said in various different threads throughout the season that it wasn’t just jack that got us promoted last season (to OTT criticism of dean smith).
However, in those seasons you mention, without Benteke’s goals we go down imo. My point being despite there being more experience in those sides they weren’t very good and we’re over reliant on one player doing something special to get them over the line, a bit like Jack this season granted.
If we’re to stay up this season we will also probably have to grind out a couple of results against better teams, either Chelsea, Man U or Arsenal.
As for Sunday, I’ve still got my we’re going to get thrashed head on, that will slowly start turning into blind hope and optimism in the next few days
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Can’t beat a bit of blind hope and optimism! That’s what I usually have, but it’s largely been knocked out of me this season, so far. I guess you never know. They could be flat after potentially losing to RM, we might just suddenly sniff a chance. Ref could have a mare. Who knows? Feels like straw clutching a bit though. I just hope everyone going has a top day out, as usual.
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Anything can happen in cup football, when the pressures of the league are off teams, otherwise we would never have giantkillings. UTV and FTF!
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Three weeks before the game and I think we haven't got a chance, regardless of what tactics we go for.
Next Sunday, I'll think that we could contain them if we play well but they'll have to have a rank off day.
The Sunday after, I may believe that we could sneak it. Maybe penalties?
The morning over the game, we'll win 2-0 no worries and Man City needed bother turning up!
I'm getting very close to feeling the latter here! Man City should be getting a bit worried I think!
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As worried as I am?
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Containing, maintaining and hoping for a lucky chance will not work. For us to win some disturbance is required to change the equilibrium of the match from superior v inadequate to a rough rowdy fight which reduces them to an ineffective unit not able to deploy their normal methodical approach. So basically kick the fuckers off the park.
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Those odds are on us to win in ninety minutes. We are only around 10/1 to lift the trophy. Not that I'll be rushing out to put my life savings on it.
Yep. We're not even expected to score.
I'll be hoping for a Real Madrid win, just to get them thinking about that.
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Narrow Real Madrid win or draw is best. If Real win 5-0, Man City will be more focused on domestic honours as they'll know the Champions League has likely gone.
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i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads
its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before
i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday
the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup
if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week
i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle
( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)
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Narrow Real Madrid win or draw is best. If Real win 5-0, Man City will be more focused on domestic honours as they'll know the Champions League has likely gone.
Agree.
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i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads
its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before
i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday
the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup
if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week
i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle
( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)
Can someone help this man and his daughter out please?!
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Narrow Real Madrid win or draw is best. If Real win 5-0, Man City will be more focused on domestic honours as they'll know the Champions League has likely gone.
Agree.
With a few injuries added in to er.. all their team
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22/1 in a two horse race for us to win in 90 mins !!
Its got to be worth a couple of quid, surely ?
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Who is that with? I don't gamble, but crikey, it's worth a tenner.
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check on oddschecker.
Varying between 14's and 21/1 now
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Who is that with? I don't gamble, but crikey, it's worth a tenner.
Surely you don't need 45p that badly?! ;)
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I wonder what odds were that Liverpool would beat Wimbledon in the 1988 FA Cup final?
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For me Dean has to get the tactics and the team that he picks right on Sunday, if we get easily beat the crowd could turn against him, and I think that could be the end for him (unfortunately). I should imagine our 2 owners will be attendance and they will not want to witness a no show from us.
But I am sure that after Saturday's humiliation the 11 who play in the final will do us proud!
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Curious to hear what everyone would play?
I personally think 3-4-3 might have run it's course and we would be better of with 4-5-1. Man City like to press very high up the pitch so I think we should be trying to by-pass playing around at the back as much as possible, and using Samatta as an outball?
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I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.
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I agree with 4-5-1 & Grealish to be told to support Samatta.
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I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.
Don’t disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.
Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess you’d have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then it’s only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?
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I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.
Don’t disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.
Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess you’d have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then it’s only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?
Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.
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I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.
Don’t disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.
Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess you’d have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then it’s only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?
Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.
I have said exactly the same to a colleague today
neither of AEG / Trez deserve to be anywhere near starting
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I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.
Don’t disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.
Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess you’d have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then it’s only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?
Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.
I have said exactly the same to a colleague today
neither of AEG / Trez deserve to be anywhere near starting
I can see one of them scoring in the final.
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I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.
Don’t disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.
Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess you’d have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then it’s only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?
Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.
I have said exactly the same to a colleague today
neither of AEG / Trez deserve to be anywhere near starting
I can see one of them scoring in the final.
Is there any news on A&E's injury? I trust it's not life threatening.
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AEG is an Special Occasions player.
He would rise to the challenge
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I’m assuming it’s a severe case of dented pride followed by extreme piss taking from his team mates.
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I think it will be 451 as well, with space congested. The gap between midfield and defence will be narrow. Question is whether we have courage with our full backs or if we narrow them up too.
Don’t disagree necessarily, but with a midfield of who exactly? The cupboard is looking so bare at the moment. McGinn on crutches is probably worth a start.
Presumably Jack centrally, but then that likely leaves you likely playing Trez and El Ghazi wide which is hardly ideal. Guess you’d have Nakamba as he is generally the best at breaking up play but he has been so poor recently. Then it’s only really a choice of Luiz, who blows very hot and cold, or Hourihane for the additional goal threat he brings and set pieces but the potential for loose complete anonymity in there?
Elmo and Targett wide for me. Not ideal, but at least the pair of them aren't utter liabilities like Trez and El Ghazi.
I have said exactly the same to a colleague today
neither of AEG / Trez deserve to be anywhere near starting
I can see one of them scoring in the final.
Anwar in the last minute to bring the cup home.
You know it makes sense.
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I’m assuming it’s a severe case of dented pride followed by extreme piss taking from his team mates.
I imagine it’s more a severe case of dented pride followed by extremely pissed off team mates.
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Man City have bigger things to concern them than this cup so I'm hoping they will treat it like Liverpool did last night V West Ham. Somebody told me today that they've been to Wembley 17 times under the new owners. It's bound to lose it's appeal with that regularity.
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I’m assuming it’s a severe case of dented pride followed by extreme piss taking from his team mates.
I imagine it’s more a severe case of dented pride followed by extremely pissed off team mates.
I think they’ve got through the angry bit of the change curve, have reached acceptance and now intend to make him suffer for being such a fannying bottle merchant.
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This guy simulated the match 108 times on Football Manager 2020.
We won 26, Man City won 82.
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This guy simulated the match 108 times on Football Manager 2020.
We won 26, Man City won 82.
So you're saying there's a chance?
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This guy simulated the match 108 times on Football Manager 2020.
We won 26, Man City won 82.
So you're saying there's a chance?
(https://i.imgur.com/qS1gaF8.jpg)
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Well its not like we've got anything better to do on Sunday
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I feel a bit flat about it all which I hate given how rare it is we get to cup finals. Has we lost at Southampton putting in solid display I know we’d all feel differently. I know I’d have more optimism. But now it’s more a case of expecting what seems inevitable and being behind delighted with anything else. I do hope all at the club realize what a shit show that was at the weekend and there would be no better stage or platform to rebound from than by winning the cup.
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I feel a bit flat about it all which I hate given how rare it is we get to cup finals. Has we lost at Southampton putting in solid display I know we’d all feel differently. I know I’d have more optimism. But now it’s more a case of expecting what seems inevitable and being behind delighted with anything else. I do hope all at the club realize what a shit show that was at the weekend and there would be no better stage or platform to rebound from than by winning the cup.
That's true but this game has the potential to be a bigger mismatch than the Arsenal humiliation. Hopefully the trip to Madrid knocks a few injuries out of them and they play somewhat of a scratch side on Sunday. I just hope we make a game out of it.
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We so need some kind of competitive performance on Sunday not just for the fact it’s a cup final but for the remaining games of the season.
Quite a worrying stat that says we’ve have only got one point this season against the top nine in the Premier League and seven of our last 11 games are against the top nine.
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After the 94 final win we slumped in the league. Looking st 96, our form did likewise. Including the semi-final against Liverpool, we lost 4, drew 1 and won 2 of our last 7 games.
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I see that the 4th official on Sunday is David Coote who was the VAR that didn't send off Spurs' Giovani Lo Celso at the weekend.
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After the 94 final win we slumped in the league. Looking st 96, our form did likewise. Including the semi-final against Liverpool, we lost 4, drew 1 and won 2 of our last 7 games.
In 96 Southgate got injured against Liverpool and missed all but the last game of the season. I think that was a bigger factor than any 'cup hangover' tbh
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After the 94 final win we slumped in the league. Looking st 96, our form did likewise. Including the semi-final against Liverpool, we lost 4, drew 1 and won 2 of our last 7 games.
In 96 Southgate got injured against Liverpool and missed all but the last game of the season. I think that was a bigger factor than any 'cup hangover' tbh
We lost 3 and drew 1 of out last 4. We actually won 2 on the spin after Liverpool, which I think may have had more of an impact given the way the game ended.
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Interesting that both those goals (PO final and Semi) were crosses from Elmo
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Yep, he can be a decent crosser of the ball.
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Best crosser at the club.
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It surprises me just how little excitement I can muster for a game where in all likihood, City will waltz to a comfortable victory. I've never gone into a Wembley game for Villa not fancying it, even a little. I thought we'd give Arsenal game in 2015 (sadly, the opposite was true). I thought we'd beat Chelsea, Utd, Chelsea (in the 2010 semi) or at least make a game of it (we only did against Utd of those games). I always fancied winning the playoff games we had. I always felt, no matter if we weren't fantastic, that we'd raise our game.
Trouble is...we're going into a Wembley final, having never looked shitter as a side, going into a cup final. We're not as bad as when we got relegated (which came after the FA Cup final). I've got virtually zero optimism. The sad part is, we play these big sides this season, and there's not a side out there bar Liverpool in the Premier League that any fucker should fear. That includes City. You can get at them. On their day, absolutely unstoppable yes, but they've been fallable this season. I fucking hate that we played a mediocre Spurs side and didn't see out a result on our patch. See also Chelsea, Utd, Arsenal. It bugs me other clubs are pulling off results against sides that historically we've often been comfortably beaten by when they've looked at their best but have been poor this season. We just seem to have a disappointing small time mentality. Even when we raise our game the nerves and mistakes kick in because we panic and we lose. Unfortunately, City this season haven't even seen our plucky side. They've had it easy as anything.
And I hate UEFA for announcing City's ban pre-final, because with the prospect of one less trophy to compete for next season, and potentially beyond, and looking like the pickings this season are getting slimmer, they'll not be taking this lightly. It might be the Milk Cup, but they'll want in the cabinet, probably more than our players do.
Prove me wrong Villa, but my guts telling me we'll roll over with a wimper. I hate caring about a cup final, I really do. There's 5-6 players I'm sick of seeing at the moment too and I'm dreading the starting lineup.
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Best crosser at the club.
no, that's Elmo I reckon.
That's who we were talking about. :D
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i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads
its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before
i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday
the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup
if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week
i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle
( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)
don’t worry chaps
we are going to win, just picked up a return on the official site for my lucky charm daughter
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Probably already been posted, but in case it hasn't
Referee: Lee Mason
Assistant Referees: Ian Hussin and Harry Lennard
Fourth Official: David Coote
VAR: Mike Dean
AVAR: Neil Davies
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i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads
its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before
i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday
the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup
if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week
i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle
( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)
don’t worry chaps
we are going to win, just picked up a return on the official site for my lucky charm daughter
Hi john, how'd you go about that mate? Buy Tickets button is showing as 'Coming Soon' for me, was still showing Sold Out two days ago......
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Just on The Chase...apparently Man City won the League Cup for the 6th time last year going ahead of our 5 wins (we’re still level with Man Utd and Chelsea). If they win on Sunday they’ll be one behind Liverpool...or we could go level with Man City. Annoyingly, 4 of their 6 LC wins have come in the last 6 seasons.
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Probably already been posted, but in case it hasn't
Referee: Lee Mason
Assistant Referees: Ian Hussin and Harry Lennard
Fourth Official: David Coote
VAR: Mike Dean
AVAR: Neil Davies
Yep, Lee Mason from Greater Manchester (Bolton) and Mike fucking Dean...
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i'm also trying to dampen expectations with my two lads
its just about having a good day out i tell them,
i don't think i've ever been to a match with as much foreboding before
i think adds's 99 out of a hundred is spot on we are just hoping we get the 1% game on Sunday
the thing that will piss me off the most is we will probably lose and we will leave the stadium with all the city fans as they wont be that arsed about winning it to stay and see them raise the cup
if it is the 1% day we will celebrate long into the night/week
i'm going for a 4 nill defeat in a game similar to the FA cup final but hoping for a miracle
( my daughter is a lucky charm for Villa she has only seen us lose once, Liverpool, but cant go as i was only allowed 3 tickets so if someone has a spare on the top section and want to see the Villa win through magic and voodoo that her presence brings pm me, you know it makes sense)
don’t worry chaps
we are going to win, just picked up a return on the official site for my lucky charm daughter
Hi john, how'd you go about that mate? Buy Tickets button is showing as 'Coming Soon' for me, was still showing Sold Out two days ago......
Right this is what you do
go on to away tickets and it will come up as Sold Out
stay on that page and keep refreshing
I refreshed on a mobile, and just kept pressing
then when there is a return it changes to Buy
that’s when you need to act fast
Press Buy, that will then take you to the seat press on that straight away and then complete the purchase as normal
I spent 20-30 minutes refreshing and missed the first time but got lucky second time
It might take longer I don’t know
depends on how desperate you are and how much time and patience you have
Good luck
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Just to be clear when I say keep refreshing I don’t mean every couple of minutes I mean all the time like 100 times a minute until it turns to Buy
it does do it even if you start to lose hope
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Just been watching one of those road to Wembley videos on you tube. Lansbury seemed to play a vital part in many of our goals. After his comments about players "playing themselves out of a place", I wonder if Smith may start with our Henri?
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Just been watching one of those road to Wembley videos on you tube. Lansbury seemed to play a vital part in many of our goals. After his comments about players "playing themselves out of a place", I wonder if Smith may start with our Henri?
Lansbury has not been used effectively in my opinion. He was excellent in the hole for forest and we have never player him there
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and cue Mick McCarthy gif...
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4 days to go...anyone feeling excited yet?
If not, just forget how shit we’ve been in the league recently and how piss poor some of our players are, and remember we’re in the final of the League Cup at Wembley and everyone involved with the club needs to be positive and enjoy the day.
Come on you Villa boys!!!
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Aston Villa 0 Man Citeh 254.
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His best position is most definately in a hole.
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Ageuro and Sterling on the bench tonight in order to be rested for the bigger game on Sunday.
Fancy us for a shock 2-1 win.
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Citeh worried about us for Sunday as they are playing their weaker side tonight, leaving Aguero and Sterling on the bench. Obviously, they have realised that Real Madrid are no match for them, but will be tested against the mighty Villa. Pep must be really worried that Dean Smith will ring the changes for our match with them.
Bugger, something just woke me up!!
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4 days to go...anyone feeling excited yet?
If not, just forget how shit we’ve been in the league recently and how piss poor some of our players are, and remember we’re in the final of the League Cup at Wembley and everyone involved with the club needs to be positive and enjoy the day.
Come on you Villa boys!!!
Shhh, Risso really doesn't approve 😉
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Citeh worried about us for Sunday as they are playing their weaker side tonight, leaving Aguero and Sterling on the bench. Obviously, they have realised that Real Madrid are no match for them, but will be tested against the mighty Villa. Pep must be really worried that Dean Smith will ring the changes for our match with them.
Bugger, something just woke me up!!
With aguero and sterling starting they are going ro take this very seriously. Going to be a very long afternoon
Have citeh sold all theie tickets yet?
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and cue Mick McCarthy gif...
So disappointed, I never get bored of seeing that.
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Larportes picked up a injury !!
Huge blow for citeh as he keeps their defence together
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Seeing as we need at least 3 goals to win any game it could be very open, 10 - 3 to City, a very close game with City being the first side to have a 100 shots in a final!
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God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
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They don't lose many games and to lose 2 in a row would be highly unlikely.
It's clutching at straws maybe but I'm going to be positive until I am forced to change.
It's much more fun than being a bloody misery.
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God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
Give it a rest can't you?
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God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
Give it a rest can't you?
Freedom of speech you know what that is?
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God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
Give it a rest can't you?
Freedom of speech you know what that is?
Something that works both ways.
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God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
Give it a rest can't you?
Freedom of speech you know what that is?
Something that works both ways.
Exactly so dont tell me to "give it a rest" Dont see you telling other posters to give it a rest when they post negative things.
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'Freedom of Speech' was a very old username of mine elsewhere.
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Laporte out injured for the final? Went off tonight after 33 mins.
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Man City must be buzzing for the UCL! Not so much for the League Cup perhaps?
One man's shit cart is another one's Lord Mayors Show.....
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God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
Give it a rest can't you?
Freedom of speech you know what that is?
Something that works both ways.
Exactly so dont tell me to "give it a rest" Dont see you telling other posters to give it a rest when they post negative things.
Then you should feel privileged that you've been singled out for special attention.
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Freedom of Speech Won’t Feed My Children.
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God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
Give it a rest can't you?
Freedom of speech you know what that is?
Something that works both ways.
Exactly so dont tell me to "give it a rest" Dont see you telling other posters to give it a rest when they post negative things.
Surely if we're having freedom of speech, he can tell you whatever he wants?
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Plus he is the Boss.
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Where does this idea come from that there is any sort of freedom, democracy or fairness on here?
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Madrid aren’t all that🤔😬
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Plus he is the Boss.
If he is the boss i want a raise
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Plus he is the Boss.
If he is the boss i want a raise
I think you're more likely to be getting your P45, plus a shit reference.
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God help us. They are currently 2-1 up at madrid ffs
Give it a rest can't you?
Freedom of speech you know what that is?
Something that works both ways.
Exactly so dont tell me to "give it a rest" Dont see you telling other posters to give it a rest when they post negative things.
Then you should feel privileged that you've been singled out for special attention.
Ah is that your way of saying you like me really 😉
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Plus he is the Boss.
If he is the boss i want a raise
I think you're more likely to be getting your P45, plus a shit reference.
😂😂😂 ill give you that one paulie that made me laugh
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If this is going to end up in an Employment Tribunal, I’ll offer mate’s rates but it’s first come first served.
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Ah is that your way of saying you like me really 😉
Careful now. People have told me he doesn't like anyone. Allegedly he once smashed a mirror because he didn't like the bloke in there looking at him.
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Ah is that your way of saying you like me really 😉
Careful now. People have told me he doesn't like anyone. Allegedly he once smashed a mirror because he didn't like the bloke in there looking at him.
Don't be ridiculous. Mirrors cost money.
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Ah is that your way of saying you like me really 😉
Careful now. People have told me he doesn't like anyone. Allegedly he once smashed a mirror because he didn't like the bloke in there looking at him.
Don't be ridiculous. Mirrors cost money.
He didn’t say it was yours!
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Definitely wouldn't be his.
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Laporte out injured for the final? Went off tonight after 33 mins.
Easily their best defender.
That said they got through o.k with I think Otamendi-Stones at VP.
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Laporte out injured for the final? Went off tonight after 33 mins.
Easily their best defender.
That said they got through o.k with I think Otamendi-Stones at VP.
I think stones is injured so it will be fernadinho and rodri at cb. We definitely should be playing jack as a number 10 if thats the case behind samatta
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'Freedom of Speech' was a very old username of mine elsewhere.
Not allowed to use it now?
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Citeh have taken the unsual step of confirming bravo will be in goal
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It surprises me just how little excitement I can muster for a game where in all likihood, City will waltz to a comfortable victory. I've never gone into a Wembley game for Villa not fancying it, even a little. I thought we'd give Arsenal game in 2015 (sadly, the opposite was true). I thought we'd beat Chelsea, Utd, Chelsea (in the 2010 semi) or at least make a game of it (we only did against Utd of those games). I always fancied winning the playoff games we had. I always felt, no matter if we weren't fantastic, that we'd raise our game.
Trouble is...we're going into a Wembley final, having never looked shitter as a side, going into a cup final. We're not as bad as when we got relegated (which came after the FA Cup final). I've got virtually zero optimism. The sad part is, we play these big sides this season, and there's not a side out there bar Liverpool in the Premier League that any fucker should fear. That includes City. You can get at them. On their day, absolutely unstoppable yes, but they've been fallable this season. I fucking hate that we played a mediocre Spurs side and didn't see out a result on our patch. See also Chelsea, Utd, Arsenal. It bugs me other clubs are pulling off results against sides that historically we've often been comfortably beaten by when they've looked at their best but have been poor this season. We just seem to have a disappointing small time mentality. Even when we raise our game the nerves and mistakes kick in because we panic and we lose. Unfortunately, City this season haven't even seen our plucky side. They've had it easy as anything.
And I hate UEFA for announcing City's ban pre-final, because with the prospect of one less trophy to compete for next season, and potentially beyond, and looking like the pickings this season are getting slimmer, they'll not be taking this lightly. It might be the Milk Cup, but they'll want in the cabinet, probably more than our players do.
Prove me wrong Villa, but my guts telling me we'll roll over with a wimper. I hate caring about a cup final, I really do. There's 5-6 players I'm sick of seeing at the moment too and I'm dreading the starting lineup.
Having never looked shitter as a side? What time frame are you working to?!?!
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Probably already been posted, but in case it hasn't
Referee: Lee Mason
Assistant Referees: Ian Hussin and Harry Lennard
Fourth Official: David Coote
VAR: Mike Dean
AVAR: Neil Davies
fuckin hell Mike Dean- VAR ref? I listened to the Peter Crouch podcast a couple of days ago and was a guest- he’s a big Tranmere fan, so probably hates Villa. Seemed alright though, so we’ll see...In all likelihood any VAR decisions probably won’t influence the outcome. Still think we’ll lose, but at least I’m mustering a bit of excitement for it. It’s a bit like coming up on a pill. I’ll be buzzing by Sunday night (in Aus)
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If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.
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'Freedom of Speech' was a very old username of mine elsewhere.
Not allowed to use it now?
Don't think I even got to make a single post.
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If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.
So are Norwich.
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Man City 1st half/ Villa 2nd half 125/1
Best bet you will ever make.
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Man City 1st half/ Villa 2nd half 125/1
Best bet you will ever make.
3-0 first half
1-0 second half
City to win 3-1
:)
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If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.
So are Norwich.
And if we lose on Sunday, we're on a par with Real Madrid.
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If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.
So are Norwich.
And if we lose on Sunday, we're on a par with Real Madrid.
Good point for the likely need to launch a rigorous defence of everything Villa in the pub during the aftermath.
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If we win in Sunday, it means we're better than Real Madrid too.
So are Norwich.
And if we lose on Sunday, we're on a par with Real Madrid.
Good point for the likely need to launch a rigorous defence of everything Villa in the pub during the aftermath.
Nah, they can all hang if that happens.
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I'm going for a Villa win, can't explain that, just a feeling we will want it more then City, City will certainly score, so I'm looking at 2-1 Villa.
From there we relaunch into Premiership safety, so here we go, massive huge weekend coming up.
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Is it just tubes to Wembley Stadium that are buggered but you are okay going to Wembley Central? I can't get the stupid TfL site to understand that no buzzes means no buzzes. And that includes shitty replacement ones.
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Is it just tubes to Wembley Stadium that are buggered but you are okay going to Wembley Central? I can't get the stupid TfL site to understand that no buzzes means no buzzes. And that includes shitty replacement ones.
The only thing that looks mildly buggered is the service between Uxbridge and Harrow, which has a rail replacement. Everything else looks OK. If you're getting the train from New Street into London, all the routes from Euston to Wembley are running as normal from what I can see.
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Ta. I'm going Marylebone. I thought the replacements were replacement buses, that's not so bad then.
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How packed are the Chiltern’s on the way down normally, as this will be the first time I’ve caught one on a matchday?
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How packed are the Chiltern’s on the way down normally, as this will be the first time I’ve caught one on a matchday?
Very. Expect to stand all the way. Especially if you’re getting on at Solihull.
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We seem to do well in league cup finals with a Villa supporting manager so I'm going for a win but will watch from behind the settee.
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Couldn’t get a ticket, I live in London and my booking history isn’t good enough.
So I’m at work today and my phone is buzzing all day from a mate, but I’m teaching so can’t pick it up. Finally pick it up at about 4:30, he says where are you watching the game on Sunday? I tell him I’m going to a pub in town (haven’t decided the venue yet). He says do you fancy watching it at Wembley, in hospitality? Can’t believe it. So excited.
Come on Villa!!
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Couldn’t get a ticket, I live in London and my booking history isn’t good enough.
So I’m at work today and my phone is buzzing all day from a mate, but I’m teaching so can’t pick it up. Finally pick it up at about 4:30, he says where are you watching the game on Sunday? I tell him I’m going to a pub in town (haven’t decided the venue yet). He says do you fancy watching it at Wembley, in hospitality? Can’t believe it. So excited.
Come on Villa!!
Blimey, that's the kind of mate you want!
Enjoy!
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Couldn’t get a ticket, I live in London and my booking history isn’t good enough.
So I’m at work today and my phone is buzzing all day from a mate, but I’m teaching so can’t pick it up. Finally pick it up at about 4:30, he says where are you watching the game on Sunday? I tell him I’m going to a pub in town (haven’t decided the venue yet). He says do you fancy watching it at Wembley, in hospitality? Can’t believe it. So excited.
Come on Villa!!
Nice one! :)
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Taylor, that's great news. Have a cracking day!
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Taylor .....you really are a lucky sew and sew ;)
Have a great day buddy and give em a shout from me and Jnr
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I'm going for a Villa win, can't explain that, just a feeling we will want it more then City, City will certainly score, so I'm looking at 2-1 Villa.
From there we relaunch into Premiership safety, so here we go, massive huge weekend coming up.
Would be amazing!
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Starting to build up for it now. Hoping for a Wembley performance and result like 1994, fearing one like 2015. I just hope that unlike the latter horror show, they go out on Sunday, give it a real go and at least look like they have some belief that they can win.
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Ta. I'm going Marylebone. I thought the replacements were replacement buses, that's not so bad then.
Bakerloo to Wembley Central. Easy.
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Okay: so I sold my ticket as soon as I got it - mainly, 'cos it's a long schlep back to N Yorks after a tough game, and my son couldn't get a ticket. So, I'll be in a Harrogate pub with him.
As we approach the day can I just say:
HAVE FUN EVERYONE; CHEERS YOUR NUTS OFF AND SHOUT THEM TO VICTORY!! :) :) 8) :) :)
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
We’ll be heading back to Birmingham by half time.
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
We've sung it every time we've been to Wembley even for semi finals, sod it, we don't get the chance that often. The Bull Ring is still a place so no need to change it.
Or we could be running 'round a "recently built mixed use commercial development" with the Cup?
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Still not excited about this. More concerned about the potential impact on the Leciester game. That said, it should make it less disappointing in the event we do lose and even better should we win.
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:
Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, we’re going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.
Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if I’m not mistaken!!
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
Yes it was sung leaving Wembley in 96 too. With the extension of 'singing fuck off, fuck off Barry Fry.'
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Still not excited about this. More concerned about the potential impact on the Leciester game. That said, it should make it less disappointing in the event we do lose and even better should we win.
Hard to be excited when you know more than likely you're going to get battered for the whole country to see. I'm excited for the day but not the game but as you say we're all travelling down with no expectations so a close defeat will be OK or a miracle win will be unbelievable.
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Still not excited about this. More concerned about the potential impact on the Leciester game. That said, it should make it less disappointing in the event we do lose and even better should we win.
That's my take on it, by and large.
I just hope we have a go at winning it, that's about it really.
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Jack plays a blinder, and scores the winner
We stay up, but, he goes to Real Madrid for £200m
We rebuild the squad and win the league.
The following season we get to Champions League final, where we play Real Madrid
We’re winning 1-0 when we concede a last minute penalty in front of the Villa fans.
As penalty taker, Jack steps up to take penalty, he hasn’t missed all season
He balloons it over the bar Into row Z
Whips of his Madrid top to reveal a Villa t shirt with the logo ‘I’m coming home’
and runs to the fans. 👍
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As long as we show pride passion and effort the result will be irrelevant. We are not expected to dk anything.
Lets hope we do it but i do fear a hiding based on our form and that they have beasts like aguero and sterling to unleash on us.
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Still not excited about this. More concerned about the potential impact on the Leciester game. That said, it should make it less disappointing in the event we do lose and even better should we win.
That's my take on it, by and large.
I just hope we have a go at winning it, that's about it really.
I’ve had such a hard time thinking about it. On the back of the Southampton game, then starkly contrasted by Man City coming back to win at Real Madrid, I just don’t have any real belief or optimism about this. One of those where I hope that a miracle will happen but expect to be down 3-0 at HT.
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I'm not going but can understand the lack of enthusiasm. We are in a relegation battle that's all consuming. Its also hardly a novelty playing at Wembley. We will likely lose. The weathers shit.
I just hope we give 110% as a certain League Cup legend would have said.
Head says 3-0 to them, the heart is going for it been decided on pens.
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I doubt we will win. In fact this is the first time I recall a final when I give us bugger all chance.
They simply have too much firepower.
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Since I'm on the Isle of Wight for a few days, I'll be going down the pub to watch Sunday's game, and I'll be proudly wearing my Villa shirt.
My reasoning being that by the time their fifth goal goes in, everyone will be feeling so sorry for the poor bugger in the claret and blue top, that they all start buying me drinks.
If we perform like we did against Southampton, I may have to have my stomach pumped.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Aston Villa in a Final again and I'm praying we upset the form books and win it will be difficult but not impossible as long as we put in our best performance and give 110% and fingers and everything else crossed we win it.
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I'm just hoping for a spirited performance and a cracking atmosphere. That will do me.
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This is an unearthly difficult match without wanting to look at facts like Villa concede the most goals and most shots in the league And that on the field of play , Aston villa this season have been remarkably inconsistent in performanced It's left me feeling frustrated. It is also not helped by the fact that Man City are the highest scorers in the league , Just had a morale boosting win Vs Real Madrid and have recorded and impressive 4 wins in 6 season of the EFL cup.
But here's the good thing and where I can keep shades of enthusiasm.
I'm assuming that the players have been told and can see this is a one off match.
Form ,statistics and facts have no bearing as this is just one match and all they have to do is win it outright.
The league cup will be won by the team that scores the most goals on the day.
I can obsess about all the quality man city players have but I'm obsessing about all the good in the Villa players. There is quality there and there is ability to score goals, play football and perform.
No matter who we play.
What Villa players and Dean Smith can have is a want to be better and want to be better than any other performance they have had this season. And especially in recent performances!
The cup final is really a chance to show all the lessons learnt from the season so far.
It stands to reason that playing high quality opposition means Villa already know they have to raise their standards and this can only be a good thing.
The fear of Villa losing and Villa losing heavily is only based on the past experiences
The actual reality is , that a team don't have the generally -considered, better players to win a cup , I don't think the better team always wins a football match. Sure the best team wins a league but a cup match ? Not always.
And we could bring the argument of best team on the day wins a football match..
And why not? Villa could be the best team Sunday
What Aston villa do need are more than 2 or 3 players performing.
And because it's a cup final I believe that the whole team will look to super perform so have some level of enthusiasm to what can happen in a one off match.
All the players selected have an opportunity to make a positive difference and contribution and I would say I'm more hoping that expecting a positive outcome because with these players and this team we just don't know what could happen
Up the villa.
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Ta. I'm going Marylebone. I thought the replacements were replacement buses, that's not so bad then.
Bakerloo to Wembley Central. Easy.
Thanks mate.
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Man City 1st half/ Villa 2nd half 125/1
Best bet you will ever make.
I actually stuck a tenner on that. Odds are crazy.
Imagine the scenes Barry named on the bench comes on and scores the winner. Would there be any scenario better?
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:
Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, we’re going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.
Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if I’m not mistaken!!
Fowler scored the hat trick in 96 just after the win vs Leeds and when Sir Brian was manager.
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The way I see it when you look back to the ‘84 team is we haven’t got a bosnich, Richardson, McGrath, Teale, Townsend, Saunders, dalian, or Yorke . Absolute class side
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Who cares really about details? Wembley wins against man Utd and Leeds scum Utd was alright.
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Since I'm on the Isle of Wight for a few days, I'll be going down the pub to watch Sunday's game, and I'll be proudly wearing my Villa shirt.
My reasoning being that by the time their fifth goal goes in, everyone will be feeling so sorry for the poor bugger in the claret and blue top, that they all start buying me drinks.
If we perform like we did against Southampton, I may have to have my stomach pumped.
Which pub are you going to?
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The way I see it when you look back to the ‘84 team is we haven’t got a bosnich, Richardson, McGrath, Teale, Townsend, Saunders, dalian, or Yorke . Absolute class side
It was '94 and Yorke wasn't in the squad.
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Dunno why, but after fearing the worst, I've knocked off from work for the week and have a gut feeling we're going to do them 3-1. Samagoal and Jack with the goods.
Nothing to lose boys - Get at em! UTV
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have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??
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My fifth child was due today. I'm guessing it'll be born on Sunday (obviously 29 Feb is the choice date) and we'll lose 5-0.
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I'm sick of all the defeatist talk. We know we're up against it but hey it wouldn't be the first time we've upset the odds. Lets just remember who we are. We are following in the footsteps of our forefathers. Let's go there and raise the roof for the boys in claret & blue.Just like we always have. Just like we always will. We are ASTON VILLA. Fuck 'em.
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have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??
Ed 'Stewpot' Stewart and the Band of the Coldstream Guards.
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2-1 villa man city (they have a player sent off)
Reina
Elmo Konsa Mings Hause Target
Hourihane Nakamba Grealish
Samatta Davis
That's the 11 I would play
Konsa can step in to midfield and Grealish can drop back.
If Davis isn't fit then I think Trezeguet be given the chance after the winner in semi and the problems he caused v Man city when he came on at villa park.
Although maybe Trez will start anyway as can see him being match winner for villa.
I think Davis is the wild card option (or Baston) two strikers to occupy their defence.
Hourihane gets his place for his past efforts , ability to score and having experience on big occasion.
Elmo due to same and has ability to deliver the ball.
Gilbert , Luiz El Ghazi lose out from Southampton
Welcome back! I reckon you might have called the Hourihane and Elmo picks right if Deano sticks with what he said after the match. A touch harsh on Guilbert overall this season but he did (as he said himself) have a stinker last time out. Trezeguet rather than Davis I think as I can't see him being fit.
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I'm sick of all the defeatist talk. We know we're up against it but hey it wouldn't be the first time we've upset the odds. Lets just remember who we are. We are following in the footsteps of our forefathers. Let's go there and raise the roof for the boys in claret & blue.Just like we always have. Just like we always will. We are ASTON VILLA. Fuck 'em.
Yeah. This.
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have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??
Please tell me that post was ironic.
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3.1. Like 94. Come on me babbies.
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I've just left my local, all the Villa fans were alive with talk of the weekends plans while everyone else sneered and spat with bitterness.
I know who'd I'd rather be tonight.
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I'm that sick of hearing self-styled 'pundits' saying we've got no chance - that I'm starting to believe the football gods might well put a claret & blue spanner in the works. So I'm going for a Wigan-esque 1-0 and a massive two fingers to the haters & the plastics.
Avit!
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We did Leicester who made us look like idiots in the PL game at home. I don’t see why we cant do the same to Man City.
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I've just left my local, all the Villa fans were alive with talk of the weekends plans while everyone else sneered and spat with bitterness.
I know who'd I'd rather be tonight.
And any other night, ever.
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Is the half time show Shakira and J-lo ?
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I hope it's not going to be sponsored by 7-Up.
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I hope it's not going to be sponsored by 7-Up.
I don't know, I'd quite like us to score 7.
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I hope it's not going to be sponsored by 7-Up.
Or After Eight's....
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Ben 10?
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:
Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, we’re going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.
Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if I’m not mistaken!!
You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasn’t a hat trick
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McAteer got the other
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:
Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, we’re going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.
Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if I’m not mistaken!!
You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasn’t a hat trick
And that was in 96 not 94.
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Ben 10?
Oceans 11. I reckon we should stop mate.
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:
Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, we’re going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.
Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if I’m not mistaken!!
You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasn’t a hat trick
And that was in 96 not 94.
Apart from that though...
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:
Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, we’re going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.
Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if I’m not mistaken!!
You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasn’t a hat trick
And that was in 96 not 94.
And Big Ron wasn't manager - Brian Little was.
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Officially excited now.
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Remember the chant: "We'll be running round the Bull Ring with the Cup" ?
Was that just a 70s thing - or did it last longer? With all the redevelopment of the city centre we may need to amend it. Any preferences?
I remember it being sung in the 90s.
It was sung in 94. Along with:
Tell big Ron, big Ron, to put the champagne on ice, we’re going to Wembley twice, tell big Ron, big Ron.
Robbie Fowler put paid to it with a 13 minute hatrick at Old Trafford if I’m not mistaken!!
You are mistaken. He scored in the semi but it wasn’t a hat trick
And that was in 96 not 94.
And Big Ron wasn't manager - Brian Little was.
give me a break it was 24 yrs ago and I can’t be arsed to fact check every post!
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Couldn’t get a ticket, I live in London and my booking history isn’t good enough.
So I’m at work today and my phone is buzzing all day from a mate, but I’m teaching so can’t pick it up. Finally pick it up at about 4:30, he says where are you watching the game on Sunday? I tell him I’m going to a pub in town (haven’t decided the venue yet). He says do you fancy watching it at Wembley, in hospitality? Can’t believe it. So excited.
Come on Villa!!
How long have you been mate’s with William Windsor?
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Was on a night shift last night and watched the whole 94 game. Been in my local tonight and there’s a minibus going from 8am.
If you can’t enjoy a day at Wembley you need to re-evaluate your sport.
Up the Villa!
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have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??
Please tell me that post was ironic.
what do you mean mate ??? i was mearly asking cuz last time they played each clubs songs to ger the crowd going etc thats all i was asking ffs dont be so fuckin precious you knob
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Well that went from 0-100 very quickly.
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I’m officially excited today.
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have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??
Now then now then
Please tell me that post was ironic.
what do you mean mate ??? i was mearly asking cuz last time they played each clubs songs to ger the crowd going etc thats all i was asking ffs dont be so fuckin precious you knob
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Just had a quick look on their Blue Moon forum and let’s just say they’re quite confident of winning by putting any team out against us tomorrow.
I’m going with the thought that we’re in a final so let’s leave nothing on the pitch. I know the odds say we’ve got no chance but all I want is a performance where we at least put a shift in. We may get beat but those players need some kind of personal pride being restored after last week not just for tomorrow but for going into those 11 games left. UTV
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Reasons to be positive about the Carabao cup final:
*We are unbeaten in this year's competition (going into the final) unlike City.
*The last time Villa won this trophy was also a leap year.
* Our record against Man City in the league cup is very good winning 3 and losing only 1 in head to head encounters.
*Aston Villa won the league cup in 1977 having beaten Man City (3-0 at VP) on the way to the final.
*Villa have never lost to Man City in a cup final (they haven't lost to us either but that's irrelevant)
*We're unbeaten in March 2020 (wink, wink)
UTV!
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have they announced anything about pre match entertainment and build up yet ??
Please tell me that post was ironic.
what do you mean mate ??? i was mearly asking cuz last time they played each clubs songs to ger the crowd going etc thats all i was asking ffs dont be so fuckin precious you knob
Less of that please.
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I’m officially excited today.
For the West Ham and Bournemouth defeats 😉
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Hope weather is better tomorrow than today. Its terrible down london here today.
24hrs to go !
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Nice and sunny according to the BBC
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Would throwing Louie Barry on the bench tomorrow be a good or bad idea (that's if he's illegible anyway)?
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Would throwing Louie Barry on the bench tomorrow be a good or bad idea (that's if he's illegible anyway)?
Liuoe Brary?
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I’m taking 3 of my 4 kids so going to make the most of it
I’ve already resigned myself to being disappointed with the line up as I think he will go for a confinement team with a defensive back 5 etc,
which will just cause City to go even more on the front foot like last time unfortunately
I would have preferred to have a go like what we were told Smith was all about when he first came but hey ho
in reality I can’t really see any way we can win this and a miracle is what we need
fortunately I do believe in God and miracles so you never know
so eat drink and be merry is the plan for tomorrow before we troop of to the colosseum to see the people take on the Lions
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Nice and sunny according to the BBC
I always check BBC weather and then prepare for the opposite.
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Would throwing Louie Barry on the bench tomorrow be a good or bad idea (that's if he's illegible anyway)?
Liuoe Brary?
Think he means eligible ;)
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Would throwing Louie Barry on the bench tomorrow be a good or bad idea (that's if he's illegible anyway)?
Liuoe Brary?
Think he means eligible ;)
Haha, good spot. I'm always half asleep first thing in the morning.
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I had a dream (lie, delusion).
Late in the game, 2 minutes left and it is 2-2. Villa are on the attack but get thwarted by a great Walker tackle. City, they attack with pace on the counter, it's Sterling, then Aguero...!!!! 3-2!!! But wait, ref indictes a VAR review for a foul back in the City box... Minutes pass.... Goal overruled, pen to Villa!! Walker didn't get the ball!!!
Grealish steps up in the dying embers...
I wake up in my seat due to the drunken stupor I'd gotten myself into.. Check the scoreboard... 4-0 City with 20 minutes to play and I've pissed my pants.
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It'll be grand day out. 4.30 - 6.30 might be a bit painful but it'll be like going back home (5 times in 6 years). As long as the players give 110% and try not to give the ball away in crucial areas, then thats all that we can ask. We would have beaten Real Madrid by more than one goal anyway.
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What team are we expecting tomorrow, gents? If Smith carries through with his threat to drop a few of them could it be the following.....replacement options are very limited...
---------------Nyland
Elmo, Engels, Mings, Targett
Trez, Luiz, Nakamba, Hourihane, Jack
---------------Samatta
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Let's face it, we're not overwhelming favourites to win this Final. However, nor were we in May 1957, May 1982 and February 1994. In our favour this is a one-off game, and with the correct attitude and commitment and if we can keep the scoreline competitive into the last 20 minutes you never know. Manchester City may have just won away at Real Madrid but aren't averse to their occasional slip-ups. Let's hope tomorrow will be such an occasion.
My heart may be over ruling my head but I'm going for a 3-2 Villa win.
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Watched the 1975 League Cup win today. I remember it was on March 1st, so 45 years ago tomorrow. I can remember also how good it was following Villa back then as we were on the verge of a great era. I had forgotten how good Nicholl and Ross were at the back that day and never gave Norwich a sniff.
Just hoping we at least give them a game tomorrow and any chance we have will be built on our defence.
I met Ian Ross many years ago (I think he was an asst coach at Wolves back then) and we talked about that game and I asked him what it was like to lift the trophy at Wembley.
Happy days.
UTV
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See it being a long afternoon. We just wont be able to cope with their midfield. 4-1 City sadly
And back to more important matters thereafter
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One hope I have is that it can be very difficult raise your game, emotionally, after such a great win, a few days later. Following their fantastic win at Real Madrid, I hope that this is the case for Manchester City. Straw firmly grasped.
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I want to see one of the midfiled put in a crunching tackle in the first few minutes & one of centre half's smash into the back of a forward. Let them know that it's going to be fight. We can't stand off them like we did at Villa Park.
This might be the only time most of these players get to a major final, let's give it a go.
We might only beat them one in twenty games but it's not impossible...
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Reina
Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert
Nakamba
Luiz
Hourihane
Grealish
Davis
Samatta
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He'll play Nyland I hope. I'd put Elmo back in as well personally.
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He'll play Nyland I hope. I'd put Elmo back in as well personally.
Me too.
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I just hope we give them a good game. I'd like to say I'll enjoy the day regardless but memories of 2000 and 2015 aren't great to be honest. Will be one of the great days in our history if we pull it off, we can dream.
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He'll play Nyland I hope. I'd put Elmo back in as well personally.
Same here.
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Elmo is a Championship player for me. Guilbert is a player I like a great deal and he did very well with Sterling up at their place.
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Elmo is a Championship player for me. Guilbert is a player I like a great deal and he did very well with Sterling up at their place.
I'd play Elmo in front of Guilbert. He's better defensively than AEG or Trez, and offers nearly as much going forward as AEG, and more than Trezeguet.
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I wouldn’t play Elmo instead of Guilbert, think Freddy despite last weeks game, is just a better player. Would be tempted however, to play Elmo wide midfield ahead of Guilbert, just as he can throw in the odd outstanding cross and he is more defensive minded. I think he might move to a flat back 4 and have two wide midfielders tucking in. After smiths mini outburst last week I can’t see el ghazi being the only player dropped. Think Luiz may be benched.
Reina
Guilbert. Engels. Mings. Targett
Nakamba
Elmo. Hourihane
Grealish
Samatta
Felt really flat earlier in the week, but nerves are kicking in. And delusionally have a feeling we’ll win, which would be one of the great cup upsets. Several beers in the box park will continue this delusion until 4.30pm at least!!
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Reina
Guilbert. Engels. Mings. Targett
Nakamba
Elmo. Hourihane
Grealish
Samatta
Quick maths.
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I was talking last night to a mate of mine who is a Wednesday fan. Discussing Man City’s win at Real and our dismal showing last weekend and he said we just need to treat it as a one off, give it a go and die for the cause - in an intelligent, well set out way, not a a Kevin Keegan way. He described it as a day out with a free pass. I’m trying to get myself into this mindset instead of shutting myself at 17% possession!
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Reina
Guilbert. Engels. Mings. Targett
Nakamba
Elmo. Hourihane
Grealish
Samatta
Quick maths.
I haven’t even had a drink yet!! 😂 Luiz can back in them alongside Nakamba.
I was at the club shop this morning and there three lads there over from Belgium, clubbe Brugge fans, who went to see the game at old traffic on Thursday then came down to villa as we have so many of their ex players. They were absolutely raving about Nakamba, said he was their best player and they looked a bit crestfallen when I said he’d been a bit hit and miss for us.
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18-1 to win in normal time. Having some of that.
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I can't see us scoring as many as 18 if I am being honest.
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Reina
Guilbert. Engels. Mings. Targett
Nakamba
Elmo. Hourihane
Grealish
Samatta
Quick maths.
I haven’t even had a drink yet!! 😂 Luiz can back in them alongside Nakamba.
I was at the club shop this morning and there three lads there over from Belgium, clubbe Brugge fans, who went to see the game at old traffic on Thursday then came down to villa as we have so many of their ex players. They were absolutely raving about Nakamba, said he was their best player and they looked a bit crestfallen when I said he’d been a bit hit and miss for us.
Hit and miss is being kind. The worst of our signings in my view
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Staying up was the aim this season.
This has become a bloody distraction.
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Staying up was the aim this season.
This has become a bloody distraction.
We're in a cup final! I'm amazed people can't be happy about it.
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Staying up was the aim this season.
This has become a bloody distraction.
We're in a cup final! I'm amazed people can't be happy about it.
We are sleepwalking towards the quagmire of the championship-and likely to lose players we have had an affinity with.
Its depressing as fk
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Up to you but find it a bit mad the night before a cup final to be thinking along these lines, there’s every other week of the season to be thinking like that. I hate the idea of going down, losing grealish etc. But if I couldn’t get the night before nerves and excitement of a cup final weekend, I’d be asking myself what the point of it was.
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Need to get tactics spot on tomorrow if we are to have any chance. Sherwood got it badly wrong in 2015, whereas I remember a Big Ron getting it spot on in 1994 using Graham Fenton in midfield.
I would personally go 3-5-2, with Grealish being in a more advanced role with Samatta. None of the midfield options are exactly great, but I would try and shore things up a bit with three in there.
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Need to get tactics spit on tomorrow if we are to have any chance. Sherwood gig it badly wrong in 2015, whereas I remember a Big Ron getting it spot on in 1994 using Graham Fenton in midfield.
I would personally go 3-5-2, with Grealish being in a more advanced role with Samatta. None of the midfield options are exactly grata, but I would try and shore things up a bit with three in there.
Smith needs to make the decision of packing the defence or packing the midfield. Personally I would pack the midfield, why add more defenders who can't defend.
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Staying up was the aim this season.
This has become a bloody distraction.
We're in a cup final! I'm amazed people can't be happy about it.
How about being tonked 6-1 by them, they just beat Madrid on their own patch and have £50m players on the bench. Football since our 96 win has gone so lop sided.
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Staying up was the aim this season.
This has become a bloody distraction.
We're in a cup final! I'm amazed people can't be happy about it.
How about being tonked 6-1 by them, they just beat Madrid on their own patch and have £50m players on the bench. Football since our 96 win has gone so lop sided.
So if somehow we win the cup that means automatic relegation?? No it dosent. Are we likely to win? No. But I tell you something I would rather win the Cup and stay up, if we are not good enough, and it doesn’t, at this moment, look like we are, then if we go down, I hope we go down holding a piece of silverware! Come on Villa!!
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Jeez hope none of you lot are sitting near us tomorrow - sounds like everyone's already surrendered.
UTV - good luck for tomoz everyone. Bottom 3 winning should inspire us to take the game to City backed by a vocal Villa end. Anything is possible in football. If everything ran to form no one would watch it.
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Belief is key tomorrow from the team and the fans.
Come on Villa let's end our 24 year drought!
UTV!!
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God I so hope we win tomorrow just to shut up the fucking moaning minnies and depressives up on this site! I love H&V but boy it can drag you down!
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If ever we needed a weekend of results to prove anything is possible
Well we just go one
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God I so hope we win tomorrow just to shut up the fucking moaning minnies and depressives up on this site! I love H&V but boy it can drag you down!
You're being a bit optimistic there, jwarry. My crystal ball looks a lot like "yes, it's good that we won but, let's face it, we were lucky that they missed so many chances and even Blues have won the League fucking Cup. The players will now be exhausted. Smith needs to answer for this fucking all fart and no shit..."
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Need to get tactics spit on tomorrow if we are to have any chance. Sherwood gig it badly wrong in 2015, whereas I remember a Big Ron getting it spot on in 1994 using Graham Fenton in midfield.
I would personally go 3-5-2, with Grealish being in a more advanced role with Samatta. None of the midfield options are exactly grata, but I would try and shore things up a bit with three in there.
Smith needs to make the decision of packing the defence or packing the midfield. Personally I would pack the midfield, why add more defenders who can't defend.
I'm not sure any of our midfielders can defend either
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God I so hope we win tomorrow just to shut up the fucking moaning minnies and depressives up on this site! I love H&V but boy it can drag you down!
You're being a bit optimistic there, jwarry. My crystal ball looks a lot like "yes, it's good that we won but, let's face it, we were lucky that they missed so many chances and even Blues have won the League fucking Cup. The players will now be exhausted. Smith needs to answer for this fucking all fart and no shit..."
Genius and spot on. Only thing missing.....even Norwich beat man city
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All we can control is making sure we keep up a constant barrage of noise to support our team. Let’s show the new plastic Mancs what proper support is. If it’s our day then we’ll win, but let’s make sure that whatever happens we can walk out of the ground as supporters with our heads held high! Don’t think we’ll beat Wembley 1971, but let’s have a go! Come on you Lions!
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All we can control is making sure we keep up a constant barrage of noise to support our team. Let’s show the new plastic Mancs what proper support is. If it’s our day then we’ll win, but let’s make sure that whatever happens we can walk out of the ground as supporters with our heads held high! Don’t think we’ll beat Wembley 1971, but let’s have a go! Come on you Lions!
This and let's get into Wembley for when the players are warning up so as to show the players how much it means to us and that we are 100% behind them. A strong performance tomorrow might lead to a strong run in the games to come - And boy after today's results will we need it.
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God I so hope we win tomorrow just to shut up the fucking moaning minnies and depressives up on this site! I love H&V but boy it can drag you down!
You're being a bit optimistic there, jwarry. My crystal ball looks a lot like "yes, it's good that we won but, let's face it, we were lucky that they missed so many chances and even Blues have won the League fucking Cup. The players will now be exhausted. Smith needs to answer for this fucking all fart and no shit..."
Don’t forget ‘papering over the cracks.’
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Every week we follow
The boys in claret and blue...
Come on Villa boys!
Today is all about the cup and forgetting about the pressures of the league. We have to show we want it more than them as a team and as fans. There's no doubt the committed fans will do their bit. With belief and hard work the team can do their job also. Come on the Villa!!
Sweet Caroline,
Good times never felt so good...
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Putting yesterday aside all we can hope for is a good display.
Good luck to all those travelling down!
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I reckon that, without wanting to state the obvious, we need to keep this one as tight as we can. The first 30 minutes being crucial.
Then we just pick them off with our passing, as everything just clicks into place at the right time.
2-1 us. Hourihane with the winner.
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Agreed Axl. Any early goal or two for them would be disastrous as all belief and hope will escape the fans.
Our support while we are still in the game will be crucial. Play this game 20 times and we will win 1/20 I reckon. After the results the last couple of days let’s hope we can continue the trend of the top sides being upset in games that are ‘walkovers’ for them.
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After all the doom and gloom of yesterday, feeling a lot better now and looking forward to what might be one of the great days in our great history. Lee Mason's the ref, not one of my favourites, just hope he gives Jack some protection. One thing is certain today the Villa fans will be outshouting the City fans, there's no contest there.
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Anyone heading to Swiss Cottage? After pre-match drinks there for the last couple of years am looking forward to popping in and asking for a pint of my usual!
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After all the doom and gloom of yesterday, feeling a lot better now and looking forward to what might be one of the great days in our great history. Lee Mason's the ref, not one of my favourites, just hope he gives Jack some protection. One thing is certain today the Villa fans will be outshouting the City fans, there's no contest there.
Our fans will be outstanding which will lift our team and scare the shit out of ther Man Plastics.
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Sunny and cold down here in London this morning. Safe travels everybody.
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Plenty of social media rumours (I know I know!) that Louis Barry is in the squad today.
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Not woken up this nervous or excited before a Wembley game since United in 94. Come on Villa, we can do this.
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COME ON YOU VILLA BOYS.......
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Sunny and cold down here in London this morning. Safe travels everybody.
Clammy here in Uganda nearing lunchtime & power back on at my brother in laws. Whilst the hotel bar I’m going to watch at might have a back up generator just occurred to me to bring my iPad in case I need a back up. Please make yourself hoarse those on your way, as has been said, I think our extra voice and passion can make a difference.
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At Fareham station. Meeting the Bournemouth Lions at Southampton for trip to Wembley. UTV
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Enjoy your day everyone. Lets get behind them and see what happens. As long as we put effort passion and heart in the performance the fans will be happy.
UTV make us proud tonight
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Whatever happens today is a day we live for.
Come on you Lions.
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Have a great day everyone. One of the last times this will be worth winning so make it a good un
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Sing your hearts out Villa boys! Gutted I couldn’t get a ticket to be there for this one but I’ll be there in spirit...let’s do this!!!
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Just left Rochdale on the M62 then M1. Wembley here we come, make us proud you Villa boys !!
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Looking forward to seeing some different players for us today. That's if Smith is good to his word. I'm sure I'll sigh if we're unchanged.
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I have a feeling that a sixteen year old surprise might feature somewhere.
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I have a feeling that a sixteen year old surprise might feature somewhere.
That would be brilliant. Coming off the bench to score the winner!
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Getting the train in an hour. Looking forward to seeing lots of people from here this afternoon, come on you Villa boys!
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Some ITK on Twitter says no Louie Barry today.
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Upset the apple cart and fucking win Villa.
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12 Villa fans at Southampton train station. 1 City!!
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12 Villa fans at Southampton train station. 1 City!!
He's probably going to the cruise terminal.
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My train from Hampton to Waterloo diverted through Whitton. I will take any good omen!!
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50 handed leaving Halesowen
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About to get ready to catch the train in just over an hour.
Have a great day everybody, and you never know...
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Just leaving Villa Park. I hope we give them a game today and bring home the cup. Up the Villa.
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So here we are one year on from when it all began against Derby, Jacks return and a thumping 4-0 win. If you’d said to me then we’d be here now I don’t think many of us would have predicted it. Anyway here’s to a great day, Up the Villa.
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Never been so nerveless before a game, never mind a trip to Wembley.
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Just getting the train now. No other obvious fans on the train. I too am nerveless, it’s a free hit today. Battle plan has got to be score late.
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Hopeful for no other reason than listening to Ghost Riders in the Sky and Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie this morning.
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To all the travelling Villans today - Stay safe, enjoy your day and sing loud and proud! Hopefully it lasts long into the night! UTV
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I'm quite annoyed at how devoid of excitement or hope I am.
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I'm quite annoyed at how devoid of excitement or hope I am.
That is not like you, I'm feeling better today than I was yesterday.
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I was driving down to Brum and I couldn't even muster annoyance at all the plastics coming down the M6. Save the Warrington Blues mini-bus, those twats need to check mirrors before pulling out.
Haven't bothered with my lucky beer. Ergh this is terrible. Hopefully I shake it off when I get down there. But I just can't help but think we're going to lose by 3 or 4 regardless how well we play.
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I was driving down to Brum and I couldn't even muster annoyance at all the plastics coming down the M6. Save the Warrington Blues mini-bus, those twats need to check mirrors before pulling out.
Haven't bothered with my lucky beer. Ergh this is terrible. Hopefully I shake it off when I get down there. But I just can't help but think we're going to lose by 3 or 4 regardless how well we play.
Have the lucky beer. It's lucky FFS!
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We beat the Noses away, the Albion and Derby. I have a couple of bottles left. Do I drink it later or do I save it for say West Ham last day of the season? Because if I drink it today and we lose, I may be partly responsible for relegating us.
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Whatever will be, will be. UTV
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I feel like I’m on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help
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A game where I hope the younger players in the squad step up or learn from the experience and come back more determined for more.
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I feel like I’m on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help
Have a couple, mate. I started three hours ago, and there are 4 hours till kick off. Dinner now, more beer, and then the match. In my living room. I'd love to be at Wembley today. Enjoy all. Up the Villa!
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Whatever will be, will be. UTV
Absolutely, pal. Up the Villa!
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Here you go Ads.... No matter the outcome today or come May... WE ARE ASTON VILLA.
We have the bad times, so that the good times feel even sweeter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAY54jvd8Eg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAY54jvd8Eg)
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En route to Wembley, got as far as High Wycombe and seen multitudes of Villa fans but not a single City one, are they actually bringing any support?
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En route to Wembley, got as far as High Wycombe and seen multitudes of Villa fans but not a single City one, are they actually bringing any support?
Highways Agency had signs up on the M6 telling them to go down the M1.
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Here you go Ads.... No matter the outcome today or come May... WE ARE ASTON VILLA.
We have the bad times, so that the good times feel even sweeter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAY54jvd8Eg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAY54jvd8Eg)
I love that video. It gives me goosebumps every time.
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I feel like I’m on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help
Have a couple, mate. I started three hours ago, and there are 4 hours till kick off. Dinner now, more beer, and then the match. In my living room. I'd love to be at Wembley today. Enjoy all. Up the Villa!
Sounds like a plan, I’m sure I’ll cheer up when I get there!
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Not nervous at all. We ard expected to lose so no pressure really on us.
If we did it its probably surpasses the league cul win against united as citeh are a very very top side. Come on you villains don't let us down 😁
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All I ask villa is that every player gives 100 %
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110%.
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I feel like I’m on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help
Have a couple, mate. I started three hours ago, and there are 4 hours till kick off. Dinner now, more beer, and then the match. In my living room. I'd love to be at Wembley today. Enjoy all. Up the Villa!
Sounds like a plan, I’m sure I’ll cheer up when I get there!
All.will be ok mate. Enjoy!
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I feel like I’m on my way to dental appointment rather than a football match. Maybe a pint will help
Have a couple, mate. I started three hours ago, and there are 4 hours till kick off. Dinner now, more beer, and then the match. In my living room. I'd love to be at Wembley today. Enjoy all. Up the Villa!
Sounds like a plan, I’m sure I’ll cheer up when I get there!
All.will be ok mate. Enjoy!
Sounds like the way to go. Just rewatched the Bradley video (thanks Nii Lamptey) and followed up with the Benjamin Zephaniah one. Now time for a beer.
Wembley Pitch looks fab today over on the Villa Instagram page, they posted a story video.
UTV
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Bugger, no Tube between Uxbridge and Harrow-on-the-Hill. Should have checked before ☹️. Replacement bus it is, then.
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Good luck to everyone involved today, the guys and gals, young and old travelling to Wembley, do us proud no matter what the result, show everyone why we have the classiest fans around. UTV.
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What time is teams?
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Should be 3.30.
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In a pub near Marble Arch.
Going to the ground soon. Looking forward to it and slightly shitting it but then again I think about being in this same pub last season before the play off final when I was significantly more tense about the result.
So fuck it.
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Its villa in a cup final. Why am I not excited? This is wrong.
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Come on Villa make us proud we can do this we can win we will win
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Ye Olde Swiss Cottage is full of the usual suspects, I'm told. Have fun, everyone.
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Drinky to start. Rumour.
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Drinky to start. Rumour.
Do you post shit like this on purpose? Cup-tied.
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Nerves are kicking in here. Don't know what to do with myself until 3.30 when the teams are announced. I hope everybody is prepared for this to go to penalties?
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Drinky to start. Rumour.
Do you post shit like this on purpose? Cup-tied.
Some 'wag' obviously winding me up as well. I think you know me well enough by now.
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Drinky to start. Rumour.
Naughty boy! You're not helping.
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I'd like to see Conor get a start in a more compact 5 man midfield.
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Twatter is best avoided until 3.30 when we find out for real.
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if he is true to his word then Conor would seem a cert to get a start.
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I hope he does.
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Ye Olde Swiss Cottage is full of the usual suspects, I'm told. Have fun, everyone.
We are.
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Re-watched 1994 and 1996 highlights. How is it so long ago? Feels much more recent.
Come on villa, write yourselves into the history books.
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We have nothing to lose and all to gain. Nobody expects us to win. But we've seen teams pull off upsets in cup finals, and we've seen pull off upsets as recently as yesterday. It's about desire, and a willingness to want it so much more than your opponent. And that starts with the manager and how he sends the team out. Go out to defend and stand off and we will be taken apart quickly. We have to bite into every single challenge and as Watford did to Liverpool not let them have a moment on the ball. Win this and the energy it will create will be astronomical. It will be something that can help us stay up.
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Still be in with a chance at 75 minutes. Don't head in at half time with no reason to come out for the second half.
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Still be in with a chance at 75 minutes. Don't head in at half time with no reason to come out for the second half.
This is the key.
My prediction, for what it's worth, is that City will come out all guns blazing and snatch an early goal, but we'll hold them at that til HT.
If we come out second half at 0-0 or 1-0 to them I think we'll have a chance to pick things up second half and have a proper go.
My concern is that Smith won't have plans B and C ready. If ever there was a time to change our habit of having little or no game plan, it's today.
But, what will be will be. UTV
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Genius to close the Green to avoid litter and congestion...only to have the same amount of people turn up but block the road instead.
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Re-watched 1994 and 1996 highlights. How is it so long ago? Feels much more recent.
Come on villa, write yourselves into the history books.
Was funny watching the Pravda interview between Grealish and Andy Townsend with Andy asking Jack whether he remembered either final. I think Jack didn't have the heart to tell him that he hadn't been born for the first one and was a few months old for the '96 final!
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Haha eamonn, Townsend and I both seem to think the 90s aren't as long ago as they are....
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3 minutes to go..
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Just had a fiver on Man City first half, Villa the second 90/1. Had to be worth a punt at them odds
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I’m going to invoke the powers of the 81 shirt...only worn once to a game at the playoff final last year. May the force be with us!
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I was feeling optimistic. Until about 5 mins ago. Now I just don’t want us to another “one of those performances”. Just make us proud today..
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Engels starting.
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Look at the Man Citeh bench!
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De Bruyne on the bench. Back 4 is the one I would have picked. Worried by lack of pace of Elmo on right, but his delivery against the Foxes got us here I guess.
Come on Villa - Effort first, and hopefully the performance will follow! UTV!