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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 18, 2020, 02:00:42 PM
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I have no idea how we will play. I have no idea if this will work. All I want at FT is 3 points. However it arrives.
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Just get the three points Villa. Please!
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Yep. Another lol of the dice, hopefully this throws up a winning combination
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Drinkwater.
We're fucked.
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I assume Engels is injured
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Are they copying our 5-5-0 formation from last week?
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That's the strongest team I think he can pick with what we have available. Wing backs crucial as is the performance of the midfield, in particular Drinkwater.
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Exactly the side I would have picked, just need to win now! UTV
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Thats what id have gone for, other than Luiz for Drinkwater
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Drinkwater.
We're fucked.
Who would you of played instead?
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Drinkwater.
We're fucked.
Who would you of played instead?
A traffic bollard
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Drinkwater.
We're fucked.
Who would you of played instead?
Luiz?
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Connelly has pace. More attacking Brighton team than usual.
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Drinkwater.
We're fucked.
Who would you of played instead?
A traffic bollard
That’s the spirit.
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Ugh, I thought we were playing West Brom on seeing that graphic.
No side has scored more 90th+ minute goals in the Premier League than Aston Villa this season (4). However, only one of these strikes has affected the result of the match - Matt Targett's winner against Brighton in October.
Lulz.
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That's the line up I would have chosen as well. My main worry is Drinkwater.
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Drinkwater.
We're fucked.
Who would you of played instead?
A traffic bollard
That’s the spirit.
I want to be wrong. I want egg all over my face for that comment. Let it be so, please.
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Deano has to play Drinkwater otherwise what the hell is the point of bringing him in, he will sink or swim and for all our sakes I hope he swims!
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Optimistically Drinkwater maybe after an additional week of training and acclimatization and not being thrown in versus one of the best midfields on the planet might be better than he was in his debut.
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He can’t be any worse, so hopefully he’ll get up to speed quickly.
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I predict we lose, Maupay to score two and the internet goes into meltdown
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Change on the bench. Elmo out, Taylor in.
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It's more or less our strongest available eleven but that doesn't mean it's a good team. I'd take a point now, with improvement from Drinkwater, a steady game from Reina, and an overall more positive and committed performance as bonuses.
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Shame they have Mooy back, tore us apart at VP before getting sent off.
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Win the game
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Other than Luiz for Drinkwater that is about as good as it gets at the moment. Hope DD shuts me up with a decent performance.
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Total football from us.
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Targett's first game for us at wing back. Have a sneaking suspicion him and Guilbert will have good games today.
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Just win, Villa.
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Come on you Villa boys! Fucking fuck the fuckers!
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Expected Drinkwater to be starting, can't judge him on last Sunday and he needs the game time.
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Taylor on the bench instead of Elmo now.
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Thats what id have gone for, other than Luiz for Drinkwater
Drinkwater needs game time. Bit would have gone Luiz instead of Nakamba.
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Midfield will have to step up their game. Could be an absolute horror show, or maybe they'll surprise us all. Need to get to grips with Mooy.
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Any Rivers ?
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Thats what id have gone for, other than Luiz for Drinkwater
Drinkwater needs game time. Bit would have gone Luiz instead of Nakamba.
I think Nakamba benefits by not playing last week. Luiz was a disgrace so can't have any complaints about being dropped. Thought Chester might have come in for Konsa but that aside the team is along expected lines. Wing backs hopefully will have licence to get forward.
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that side is ok for me
but more importantly if we don’t go out to win games rather than be defensive we will be going down
There needs to be a big shift in mentality
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How is drinky going to get match fit if he doesn't play any matches. Ffs some people on here !
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I expect a routine 2-0 win for the home side. Go on Villa, shock me.
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Targett's first game for us at wing back. Have a sneaking suspicion him and Guilbert will have good games today.
It does suit their style better.
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I assume Engels is injured
He’s fit but there is only so many defenders Dean can play.
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It's the 11 I'd have gone with. With Guilbert and Targett back in, we've a better shape. Need the midfield two to engage unlike last week, and the front three to work their nards off, but run smarter, not necessarily harder.
Let's have these, make my decision over whether to travel down and back from York on Tuesday night a straightforward one.
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How is drinky going to get match fit if he doesn't play any matches. Ffs some people on here !
Yes but it's not just a case of 'Don't worry Danny, play yourself in, get up to speed, you've got loads of time'; we're in desperate need of wins and he has to contribute to that as well as getting match fit.
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How is drinky going to get match fit if he doesn't play any matches. Ffs some people on here !
We needed signings that could hit the ground running, given our position. But I accept he needs to be playing to get to anywhere near that level of fitness.
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How is drinky going to get match fit if he doesn't play any matches. Ffs some people on here !
By playing for the reserves?
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I do not like the lineup or the shape we’ll presumably play. It’s going to turn into a 5-2-3 with target and Guilbert in the midfield..?
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Brighton changed their formation a little, played back 3 all season but Duffy and Dan Burn injured so playing Alzate and Bernardo as full backs today.
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Maupay 6 games without a goal. Let's make it 7, Tyrone and company.
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"Some people on here!" says a poster with 269 posts to his name.
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Is anyone else looking at the, ahem, Villa sports news on hesgoal and not, ahem, seeing anything?
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Optimistically Drinkwater maybe after an additional week of training and acclimatization and not being thrown in versus one of the best midfields on the planet might be better than he was in his debut.
Like being optimistic that now Bojo has a big majority he can ignore the more fringe folk of the ERG
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Is there an alternative radio commentary to WM on FM?
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Hause has obviously been smoking something. Wake up.
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What a shitty pitch that is.
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Is anyone else looking at the, ahem, Villa sports news on hesgoal and not, ahem, seeing anything?
Yeah. Need an alternative if anyone has one.
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Is anyone else looking at the, ahem, Villa sports news on hesgoal and not, ahem, seeing anything?
Yes.
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"Drinky" having a mare so far. Surpisingly.
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Is anyone else looking at the, ahem, Villa sports news on hesgoal and not, ahem, seeing anything?
Yes.
Yes also. Their news is usually reliable. Even when it is in Chinese.
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Nyland doesn’t deserve dropping.
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Chester warming up, hopefully no one is injured already
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Is anyone else looking at the, ahem, Villa sports news on hesgoal and not, ahem, seeing anything?
Can anyone PM me a link to another *cough* Villa sports news? Thanks
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"Drinky" having a mare so far. Surpisingly.
I wouldn't say a mare but the game does seem to passing The Drinkster by.
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Guilbert just seemed to give up then when chasing their speed merchant. Not an encouraging sign.
We've been crap so far. I know it's asked regularly, but what on earth do these players do all week?
I don't like them very much. 'Drinky'. Fuck me. Hause is already having a mare.
Come on Villa!!!!
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Hause has his boots on the wrong feet again.
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Nyland doesn’t deserve dropping.
He should have stopped two of the Man City goals last week.
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FFS Drinkwater. Useless.
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Wake up Drinkwater that’s basics!
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We're here for a draw aren't we.
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Guilbert possibly injured now
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Wm coverage is poor today. How are we playing?
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Very very silly not to be playing with a striker, and deciding El Ghazi a good choice to be playing in that kind of role.
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And we have no right back on the bench
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Hesgoal working now.
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Wm coverage is poor today. How are we playing?
Not particularly well, mate. Neil Taylor is warming up.
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Very very silly not to be playing with a striker, and deciding El Ghazi a good choice to be playing in that kind of role.
It’s pure negligence. A fireable offense if you ask me.
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Wm coverage is poor today. How are we playing?
A shite game so far between two poor sides.
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Drinky booked
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Drinkwater booked. This idiot get sent off now....
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Wm coverage is poor today. How are we playing?
Not particularly well, mate. Neil Taylor is warming up.
Cheers. Coverage is back now. We need a win today. Bit worried today
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No way was that yellow, the crowd did that
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Drinkwater is crap isn't he.
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Drinkwater has given the ball away every time he's touched the ball, and now he's booked for a rubbish tackle. Still, good that he's "getting up to speed". He's fucking wank.
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Looked a yellow on the replay to be fair.
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Drinkwater has given the ball away every time he's touched the ball, and now he's booked for a rubbish tackle. Still, good that he's "getting up to speed". He's fucking wank.
A terrible buy. Nakamba, too. Dreadful players. They both look so so uncomfortable on the ball.
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Superb shot by Drinkwater. Oh...
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Tackle was an hour later. He is well off the pace again.
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How is drinky going to get match fit if he doesn't play any matches. Ffs some people on here !
U23s
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How is drinky going to get match fit if he doesn't play any matches. Ffs some people on here !
U23s
Someone else’s side.
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Great effort by Drinkwater. Not. Geoff Thomas would have been embarrassed by that.
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Drinkwater has given the ball away every time he's touched the ball, and now he's booked for a rubbish tackle. Still, good that he's "getting up to speed". He's fucking wank.
A terrible buy. Nakamba, too. Dreadful players. They both look so so uncomfortable on the ball.
Strange, Nakamba’s best game so far was Brighton at home, since then he’s been gash.
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How is drinky going to get match fit if he doesn't play any matches. Ffs some people on here !
U23s
Someone else’s side.
ha ha ha good point.
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Great effort by Drinkwater. Not. Geoff Thomas would have been embarrassed by that.
Poor guy, that one shot ruined him 😂
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Drinkwater has given the ball away every time he's touched the ball, and now he's booked for a rubbish tackle. Still, good that he's "getting up to speed". He's fucking wank.
A terrible buy. Nakamba, too. Dreadful players. They both look so so uncomfortable on the ball.
Strange, Nakamba’s best game so far was Brighton at home, since then he’s been gash.
turbogash
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Somehow we're not 1-0 down
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Konsa having a mare at the moment
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Drinkwater has given the ball away every time he's touched the ball, and now he's booked for a rubbish tackle. Still, good that he's "getting up to speed". He's fucking wank.
A terrible buy. Nakamba, too. Dreadful players. They both look so so uncomfortable on the ball.
Strange, Nakamba’s best game so far was Brighton at home, since then he’s been gash.
turbogash
Twin turbo fuel injected gash
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Holy shit that was close.
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Like the look of Reina, he seems very assured
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How the fuck did they not score then?
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Drinkwater has given the ball away every time he's touched the ball, and now he's booked for a rubbish tackle. Still, good that he's "getting up to speed". He's fucking wank.
A terrible buy. Nakamba, too. Dreadful players. They both look so so uncomfortable on the ball.
Strange, Nakamba’s best game so far was Brighton at home, since then he’s been gash.
turbogash
Twin turbo fuel injected gash
Ubergash.
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Konsa having a mare at the moment
He's having a nightmare winter!
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Only a matter of time before Brighton score here.
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We are bad.
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Can we have a striker for Tuesday please Villa?
I’m not driving 200 odd miles to watch otherwise.
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I know it sounds like we're going on about him but fucking hell, Drinkwater is miles off the pace.
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Utter gash from Drinkwater and Hause there.
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How is Hause starting ahead of Engels
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We look like we're there for the taking today I'm afraid.
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Drinkwater has given the ball away every time he's touched the ball, and now he's booked for a rubbish tackle. Still, good that he's "getting up to speed". He's fucking wank.
A terrible buy. Nakamba, too. Dreadful players. They both look so so uncomfortable on the ball.
Strange, Nakamba’s best game so far was Brighton at home, since then he’s been gash.
turbogash
Twin turbo fuel injected gash
Ubergash.
Omnigash.
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Can we have a striker for Tuesday please Villa?
I’m not driving 200 odd miles to watch otherwise.
Bribe someone in the home office to speed up the work permit and you might get one!
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I know it sounds like we're going on about him but fucking hell, Drinkwater is miles off the pace.
Even by our own very low standards of recent years, he's absolutely dreadful. Worst debut I can recall last week, and if anything he's been worse today. Woefully inept.
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So lethargic in defense - No way we're not going to concede here. Mings needs to send a rocket up the other two, quick sharp!
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Starting to resemble the feeble relegation team. Why are they so weak?
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We really do have some very poor footballers at this level. Good fucking grief
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Drinkwater has given the ball away every time he's touched the ball, and now he's booked for a rubbish tackle. Still, good that he's "getting up to speed". He's fucking wank.
A terrible buy. Nakamba, too. Dreadful players. They both look so so uncomfortable on the ball.
Strange, Nakamba’s best game so far was Brighton at home, since then he’s been gash.
turbogash
Twin turbo fuel injected gash
Ubergash.
Omnigash.
Gash-tastic.
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Grealish looks fed up.
Though fuck knows why he's stuck up front. Just drop deeper, Jack.
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Jesus Trez.
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Here we're seeing the problems with no actual striker, AEG simply dosen't know the angles to run or when to come in short to pick up the ball. Mind you Wesley didn't really have an idea of what to do either regarding that.
We've really messed up the window so far.
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Only a matter of time before Brighton score here.
My money is on a penalty.
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JACK GREALISH ISN'T A FUCKING WINGER
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Starting to resemble the feeble relegation team. Why are they so weak?
If, erm, when we get relegated, this team, minus Jack and Tyrone, will struggle to bother the play-off's. One crumb of comfort though is that Drinky Pinky won't be there!
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Another let off
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Drinkwater, fucking hell, get him off, bloody hell!!!11111
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Hause so poor there.
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Another let off
You had baked beans for lunch?
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Hause is another atrocious player. Fucking dreadful.
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We are a calamity away from the next calamity
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JACK GREALISH ISN'T A FUCKING WINGER
Drinkwater ain’t a premier league footballer. El Ghazi ain’t a forward.
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This match is League 2 quality.
Might be even doing that League a disservice.
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Hause, blimey.
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Jesus Trez.
We should get rid now.
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Drinkwater is a disaster. Must be brought off ASAP.
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Sounds blinding.
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I don't subscribe to the notion that Smith has lost the dressing room.
But he will lose it if he persists with Drinkwater.
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JACK GREALISH ISN'T A FUCKING WINGER
Drinkwater ain’t a premier league footballer. El Ghazi ain’t a forward.
Can I throw in Konsa, Trezeguet, Hause, Nakamba too please?
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Drinkwater is a disaster. Must be brought off ASAP.
Blame Dean not Drinkwater. It’s not Danny’s fault he’s past it and gets picked.
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Still, at least Drinky is a character in the dressing room.
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Sounds blinding.
Two shit teams with us being marginally shitter
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The red card in the Norwich game is hilarious!
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Really can’t see this defence not conceding today. All three of them are making mistakes
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Bournemouth down to 10 men.
Norwich penalty although dreaded VAR review is on.
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Penalty Norwich
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Does everyone realise that at one point in time Chelsea paid 35 FUCKING MILLION FOR Danny Wankwater
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El Ghazi? What has he done today? Garbage.
No energy, no pressing, nothing. I don't like him.
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Starting to resemble the feeble relegation team. Why are they so weak?
Nobody knows anything. Playground tactics.
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Out of the 23 games we've played this season, I can count on one hand the number of games we've looked okay - 2 of which were Norwich and Burnley where the opposition were dreadful.
This performance today isn't a one off... It's our usual affair. Only 2 or 3 of them appear switched on week after week. No urgency, no effort and very little ability. Smith just cannot get a song out of them. We're going down, and if anyone thinks any differently, can I have some of what you're having please.
This is abysmal. :(
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Does everyone realise that at one point in time Chelsea paid 35 FUCKING MILLION FOR Danny Wankwater
I think they bought a partnership to be fair, with Kante being the better of the two.
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How sad it is to see Grealish stuck out on the wing.
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If you want someone to be second to the ball or to make a late tackle or to be pissed past by the opposition, Danny Bongwater's your man.
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Out of the 23 games we've played this season, I can count on one hand the number of games we've looked okay - 2 of which were Norwich and Burnley where the opposition were dreadful.
This performance today isn't a one off... It's our usual affair. Only 2 or 3 of them appear switched on week after week. No urgency, no effort and very little ability. Smith just cannot get a song out of them. We're going down, and if anyone thinks any differently, can I have some of what you're having please.
This is abysmal. :(
See you in the Smith Out thread afterwards?
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Does everyone realise that at one point in time Chelsea paid 35 FUCKING MILLION FOR Danny Wankwater
I think they bought a partnership to be fair, with Kante being the better of the two.
Kante must be a helluva player
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How sad it is to see Grealish stuck out on the wing.
At least he’s still in a Villa shirt for the time being..
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Out of the 23 games we've played this season, I can count on one hand the number of games we've looked okay - 2 of which were Norwich and Burnley where the opposition were dreadful.
This performance today isn't a one off... It's our usual affair. Only 2 or 3 of them appear switched on week after week. No urgency, no effort and very little ability. Smith just cannot get a song out of them. We're going down, and if anyone thinks any differently, can I have some of what you're having please.
This is abysmal. :(
See you in the Smith Out thread afterwards?
Sharpening the pencil now! ;)
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How sad it is to see Grealish stuck out on the wing.
It's a fucking crime. What a colossal waste of talent
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I actually think Drinkwater is starting to get into this game 🤞
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Does everyone realise that at one point in time Chelsea paid 35 FUCKING MILLION FOR Danny Wankwater
I think they bought a partnership to be fair, with Kante being the better of the two.
Kante must be a helluva player
He really is to be fair mate. I wish we had him and nor the other half of the partnership!
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Smith should have been potted ages ago. Clueless.
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Southampton joint 7th in the table.
They were below us a month ago.
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Out of the 23 games we've played this season, I can count on one hand the number of games we've looked okay - 2 of which were Norwich and Burnley where the opposition were dreadful.
This performance today isn't a one off... It's our usual affair. Only 2 or 3 of them appear switched on week after week. No urgency, no effort and very little ability. Smith just cannot get a song out of them. We're going down, and if anyone thinks any differently, can I have some of what you're having please.
This is abysmal. :(
See you in the Smith Out thread afterwards?
Sharpening the pencil now! ;)
He won us a goal kick. Ace
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Smith should have been potted ages ago. Clueless.
yep
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How sad it is to see Grealish stuck out on the wing.
It's a fucking crime. What a colossal waste of talent
God, mate, isn't it just. Terrible tactics.
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And another one
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Drinkwater is so going to get sent off - just had a fiver on it happening at 10/1
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How sad it is to see Grealish stuck out on the wing.
It's a fucking crime. What a colossal waste of talent
God, mate, isn't it just. Terrible tactics.
You have spotted tactics?
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We really could do with a Mooy type player in our midfield, moves the ball so quickly out wide and forward.
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Norwich 1 - 0
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Sunday league stuff here
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Comedy defending.
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We've got great support, though. Fair play.
Our players don't deserve such dedication.
Come on Villa!
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Jack with a solo effort just wide
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Southampton joint 7th in the table.
They were below us a month ago.
It might just be down to coaching.
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1-0 Brighton
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1-0. Trossard.
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We really could do with a Mooy type player in our midfield, moves the ball so quickly out wide and forward.
We’ve got one he’s called Grealish but for some reason he plays on the wing.
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Jack is fucking brilliant. What a shame it will be to see him in another kit. We are just shit.
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Unlucky Jack. Has to hit the target, though.
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Fuck off
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There we go. Game over.
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Oh unlucky Jack, brilliant. He's wasted on Smith.
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That's it then. Goodnight Vienna.
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Guilbert ball watching. Game over.
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Fuck off Smith.
This whole thing is so inevitable
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We really could do with a Mooy type player in our midfield, moves the ball so quickly out wide and forward.
We’ve got one he’s called Grealish but for some reason he plays on the wing.
Mooy isn't quite a number 10, he plays deeper. We need one of the central two with those qualities.
West Ham 1 up aswell, awful few minutes. Can't have them winning today.
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Fuck me.
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The fat lady is about to come on stage.
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Fuck off Smith, you useless twat.
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They are so much better than us, it is embarassing.
We are an anti-football mess.
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Gifted from Hause. So inevitable.
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Drinkwater is so going to get sent off - just had a fiver on it happening at 10/1
Thanks for the tip. 33/1 on Bet365
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Watch the collapse now.
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We are sunk. Just case now of at least trying to prepare for future
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Oh shit. We've been so inept today, defensively, tactically, you name it.
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Aston Villa team photo
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Game over. Fucking pathetic.
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This is pathetic.
Are we just going to spend entire games defending and running around after the ball, with out star playmaker on the wing and fucking AEG pretending to be a forward?
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Smith picks Drinkwater, who is blowing out of his arse after 20 minutes. Great job.
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Time's up Dean.
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It’s all falling apart today. Other results starting to go against us too.
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Drinkwater looks like an arthritic Mark Kinsella jogging around in the centre circle. Hause looks like Titus Bramble's comedy cousin who isn't actually a footballer. Shit team, shit tactics, shit manager.
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Palace winning at city, Southampton winning and we’re losing. We going down on the fact of to many teams have picked up bonus results alone.
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Drinkwater just standing there watching their midfielder amble past him into the box?!
I'm all for giving a guy a chance, but what the hell were they expecting - He couldn't get in a piss poor Burnley team. We were all thinking it.....
Same in the summer.... it was crystal clear that signing 1 unproven striker was going to come back and bite us. It's fucking common sense. *and we should have got Maupay in anyway.
Oh... .and now they've finally scored! FFS - Smith OUT (and take Pitarch with you)!
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West Ham 1-1 now.
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Who's commentating on AVTV radio?
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Luiz on at half time, surely?
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Thing is about poor run last year we never were in danger of being relegated. I just hope our owners do something to fix this shambles as we are the worst team in this league and smacks of 15/16 season.
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Guilbert ball watching. Game over.
Guilbert ball watching. Game over.
He's unbelievably slow as well.
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Time's up Dean.
It was up weeks ago. Instead, we wanted to waste more time by giving him and Pitarch time to REALLY fuck things up in the January transfer market.
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Pathetic. Smith ha sto go. If you cant get your team responding after a fucking 6-1 humilation. Needs to go
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Do we practice standing off, not pressing and letting the opponent have the ball?
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I am really trying to contain my growing resentment for the mess this club is becoming again.
Terrible recruiting, terrible “tactics”, terrible effort and urgency.
This is just abject crap. Relying on drinkwater, el Ghazi and nakamba to control the spine of the park.
We’re going backwards.
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Hause??? Wtf
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Hause is bloody hopeless
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Unpopular but do we recall hogan who at least is a striker.
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I'd like to apply for the job of whoever thought it was acceptable to go into this season with just three crap strikers.
Because I could genuinely do a better job, but dint of not being a thick twat.
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This team is so much inferior than the one last season and we've spunked 150 million on it.
Remarkable.
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We are atrocious to watch.
Hause, Targett, Nakamba, Drinkwater, El Ghazi...the mind boggles. Professional footballers? Wankers.
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You know what... balls to it. Might as well let Jack go now.
We're going down regardless, so we may as well let him shine elsewhere so he can cement his place in the England squad for the Euros. We may get 'some' enjoyment out of football at least.
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Need to sub Hause and Drinkwater at half time. You will not see two more piss poor performances in the entire football league today.
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The lack of fitness, energy and application reminds me very much of 2015.
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AEG what a fucking miss. Fuck me
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This is what it looks like when nobody is leading the line.
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My god, AEG, that was pathetic.
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Should be level, that's a sitter.
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Drinkwater clearly not match fit. Hause passing accuracy not improved. Need Vassilev on and push El Ghazi wide. Bring Jack into the centre.
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Wanted.
Professional footballer who can head a football properly.
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The good news is Dean has shown he can positively use half time to improve us. Oh wait....
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That side is going down.
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Setting traps all over the pitch, and then overloading ourselves right into them.
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Grealish/Mings aside.... not one of them is capable of even passing to a teammate. It's unforgiveable.
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I am really trying to contain my growing resentment for the mess this club is becoming again.
Terrible recruiting, terrible “tactics”, terrible effort and urgency.
This is just abject crap. Relying on drinkwater, el Ghazi and nakamba to control the spine of the park.
We’re going backwards.
Resentment..you've got a point there, mate.
It's like 2015/16 all over again where I started loathing some of our players. It's not fully formed loathing just yet, but there are some hints of déjà vu.
Smith really needs to sort himself out.
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If Jack has got half brain about him he will have his agent find a new club asap. Who could blame him fucking off having to play with this bunch of bollocks and a manager who is absolutely clueless?
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We are atrocious to watch.
Hause, Targett, Nakamba, Drinkwater, El Ghazi...the mind boggles. Professional footballers? Wankers.
Don’t blame them.
Blame the recruitment team and coaches for thinking these players were capable enough to perform in this league. Blame the manager for a crap system that makes NO ONE better.
Ignorant and stubborn approach.
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Half time summary.
Dog shit
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As bad as anything we've seen so far this season.
We are getting worse.
I now find myself hoping we don't beat Leicester for concern at what Man City would do to us at Wembley.
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Drinkwater has reached David Hunt levels of shiteness
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Pile of shit.
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Should be level, that's a sitter.
Should be level, that's a sitter.
Likely VAR would have ruled it out
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Sky writing us off already. Not often I agree with them.
Getting the impression that not only are we going down but we’ll assume our usual PL position - bottom.
Management team is a shambles.
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To think Glenn Whelan was released as we thought he couldn't cope with a PL midfield.
Now we have an asthmatic pit pony in there.
We're not showing anything that resembles form, fight or tactics that will keep us up.
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Losing the game in midfield. 451. Luiz on for Drinkwater, before he gets sent off. Vassilev on for Hause. Grealish into the middle. Ghazi and Trez out wide. It's still shit, bit it's all we have.
Instead we'll do fuck all.
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Drinkwater has reached David Hunt levels of shiteness
the scary thing he's not been the worst player for us out there
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Lets start preparing for the championship if smith stays. Absolutely woeful eprformance. Throws drinkwater in who looks nowhere near fit eniygh. By time he is fut we would have been relegated.
We cant press, we cant create chances, we cant score from set pieces we cant defend. Thats the manager. He has 45 minutes to aavw his job for me.
6 losses in 8 not good enough
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Grasping for positives, we look a lot better with Targett than we do with Taylor.
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Surely even Smith isn't stupid enough to send us out for the second half with no changes?
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Utter garbage first half. Targett booted it straight out of play unopposed twice, Hause awful and Drinkwater running in treacle.
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Silver lining though chaps. We generally do well right after HT. Right?
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We'll be 3-0 down before Smith makes any subs.
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The worst, most worrying, most depressing thing about this isn't the general ineptitude, it is the near total lack of spirit.
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Completely devoid of ideas. With 3 strikers added to this squad looking at fixtures to come I can’t see another 18/20 pts
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A first half of absolute, utter cack.
Not a singe positive to be taken from that fucking drivel.
I know we have striker problems, but this is now compounded by a midfield that is absolute pish, and a defence occupied by Konsa and Hause who age fucking liabilities every time the ball goes near them.
But worse than all of that.
Where is the fight, the reaction to being fucking shit last week?
The manager certainly doesn’t seem to be able to instill it.
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Surely even Smith isn't stupid enough to send us out for the second half with no changes?
(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/belly-laugh-17777637.jpg)
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Watching Ausburg-Dortmund during the break, 3-3. Haaland scored within 3 minutes of coming on.
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3 at the back ain’t working. You need players who can bring the ball out and fill in in midfield but our lot just keep running backwards leaving a huge gap with our non existent midfield. Dean needs to get Luiz on and flood the midfield with players even if they are all crap
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The worst, most worrying, most depressing thing about this isn't the general ineptitude, it is the near total lack of spirit.
I was just thinking that. There's been no reaction to the Man City result at all.
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Fuck off smith. Fuck off ‘suso’. Fuck off ‘Drinky’.
We’re going down with a whimper, we’re cashing in on a once in a generation genius and good luck to him, and we’re staying down. Fucking incompetence of the highest order top and bottom.
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Truly dire stuff. No discernible way of playing, no threat in the final third, Keystone Cops in our own box, enough space in our midfield to drive a bus through, players looking disinterested, one player in particular looking so slow and knackered (understandably so).
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Can we sack Smith at half-time...we are so far beyond inept its negligent not to get rid of him (and Suso).
Playing 3 at the back is supposed to allow the wing-backs to push on, instead we are playing 5 at the back (very poorly mind) and the midfield is awol.
We are in deep, deep trouble as-is.
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Surely even Smith isn't stupid enough to send us out for the second half with no changes?
Hourihane is the only obvious one given we've had some corners today. We bring on Luiz, he's been as bad as the starting two in last few games.
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Half time summary.
Dog shit
This. With fecking huge bells on. >:(
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Drinkwater off, Vassilev on. El Ghazi and Trez out wide and jack into the middle.
It can’t get any worse.. might as well put someone who claims to be a striker up there.
This 3-4-3 has been terrible all year and turns into a 5-2-3 when we defend. It’s not front foot attacking football.
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Fucking dreadful
But we say this every week.
No Balls or bottle. C.Palace beating Man city !!!!!
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Please do not bring Hourihane on.
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Swap AEG and jack around. At least give something for the centre halfs to think about.
Do something Smith
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We are atrocious to watch.
Hause, Targett, Nakamba, Drinkwater, El Ghazi...the mind boggles. Professional footballers? Wankers.
Something I've been thinking for a few months now but we are unquestionably the worst footballing side in the league. I honestly believe the players aren't as poor as they pretend to be and that responsibility lies at the door of Dean Smith.
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Losing the game in midfield. 451. Luiz on for Drinkwater, before he gets sent off. Vassilev on for Hause. Grealish into the middle. Ghazi and Trez out wide. It's still shit, bit it's all we have.
Instead we'll do fuck all.
Do ya wanna a job?
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Very scrappy game, almost as bad as the cabbage patch of a pitch.
We're the masters of our own downfall in giving the ball away; Hause for the goal and the three scrambles in the box all through careless balls out the back.
El Ghazi has to occupy their defenders more and offer an out ball through the channel.
Drinkwater started slowly, but since he lamped somebody he has picked up. Him and Nakamba though lack dynamism. I'd bring Luiz on for Hause and give him more licence to break forwards.
Should have scored with that header just before the break.
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Not just reacting to this match but smith simply will not get us out of the mire. Stick with him this win or lose will be our championship next year. Thanks for promoting us but we were unready to be here and have not looked convincing all season to be honest.
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Just have a fucking go. Vassilev on, Jack just off him. Die trying
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There was nothing in that first half to make me think we will get back into the game. Brighton haven't been great but they don't need to be.
I can't remember a Villa away crowd as quiet as it is here today, despite the big following..well, I can, but that was 4 years ago when we got relegated.
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These clear the air meetings don't really work for long do they?
That's two they've had in the last few weeks and we're still service up utter, limp garbage.
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Hause is a liability and AEG doing nothing. But, unpopular view, Drinkwater is at least trying.
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Dire. Sick of hearing after the latest debacle how they have a debrief, do well in training, then are utterly shit once again when matchday arrives.
Smith is shit, fuck him off immediately. Two late for a new bloke now to make much difference, but at least I won’t have to listen to dismal Mr Yes No.
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I've got a Gene Pitney song in my head - Yesterdays hero.
That's who we always sign when we are in the shit.
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No changes. Remarkable.
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No changes unsurprisingly
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No changes, what a fucking surprise.
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No changes, what a fucking surprise.
We need to wait until we’re 2 down.
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Fucking hell Drinkwater.
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Come in number 4 - Time's up!
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drinkwater oh dear
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Hause is a liability and AEG doing nothing. But, unpopular view, Drinkwater is at least trying.
Absolutely this.
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Fucking hell Drinkwater.
Can somebody put a tenner on his sending off for me?
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This site is comedy gold. Three at the back isn't working so change to 4. A couple of weeks ago it was why stick with 4 at the back when it clearly isn't working.
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Losing the game in midfield. 451. Luiz on for Drinkwater, before he gets sent off. Vassilev on for Hause. Grealish into the middle. Ghazi and Trez out wide. It's still shit, bit it's all we have.
Instead we'll do fuck all.
This.
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Stream not working which based on your comments seems to be quite fortunate
Saw the first 15 and we were awful
No effort, desire or spirit. Right now we are going down. There, I’ve said it
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Targett failing the tricky five yard pass test there.
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Drinkwater is bloody woeful
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the whole lot is a combination of Lambert, Garde and McLeish - we're going down from the looks of this shite served up today.
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
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Drinkwater skies over a decent chance.
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No effort, desire or spirit. Right now we are going down. There, I’ve said it
Smith, if he cannot instill the basics -desire, effort and spirit, what is the point in keeping him?
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we have no appetite to fight for this.
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This site is comedy gold. Three at the back isn't working so change to 4. A couple of weeks ago it was why stick with 4 at the back when it clearly isn't working.
Thing is mate it’s like saying where you want your food served on the titanic after its hit the iceberg. You are still sinking
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YOU ARE FUCKING SHIT DRINKWATER
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I'm struggling to remember a more inept, shambolic & gutless Villa display tbh. absolutely bloody shameful.
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For fucks sake, get that donkey off!
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Drinkwater skies over a decent chance.
I suspect that landed in the sea.
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
That's a little harsh
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This site is comedy gold. Three at the back isn't working so change to 4. A couple of weeks ago it was why stick with 4 at the back when it clearly isn't working.
Different formations work against different teams. 3 at the back worked against Burnley. It's obviously not today. We just don't have the bollocks to change it.
Although you could argue no formation would work with these players at this moment.
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drinkwater again oh dearr
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They are scrapping for every ball and we are powder puff. We desperately need some hard players
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
What a ridiculous thing to say.
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
McLeish wins that all day long.
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Drinkwater with the conversion.
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Targett failing the tricky five yard pass test there.
Targett's only playing to make Drinkwater look good.
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We’re not the fucking Danny Drinkwater reclamation project.
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They are scrapping for every ball and we are powder puff. We desperately need some hard players
Nzonzi? We can all see it, Smith can't.
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Drinkwater rolling with a 67% pass accuracy so far.
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Any chance of a couple of scorchios please PWS?
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The worst, most worrying, most depressing thing about this isn't the general ineptitude, it is the near total lack of spirit.
I was just thinking that. There's been no reaction to the Man City result at all.
Certainly does look like the towel has been thrown in.
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
McLeish wins that all day long.
Sherwood without trying, which incidentally he didn't.
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Co-commentator asking why we aren't playing two strikers. Jesus Christ.
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
McLeish wins that all day long.
Remi Garde for me.
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Listened to 1st half on AVTV. They make it sound like we have played well. Doesn’t correlate with comments on here?
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Who have we had with £140 million to spend? Poor Smith. Brummie through and through. Never given a chance. He is rubbish.
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Basically, we've become Newcastle.
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Co-commentator asking why we aren't playing two strikers. Jesus Christ.
You don’t want to know what I called him when he said that! Prick
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
McLeish wins that all day long.
Remi Garde for me.
It's been a poisoned chalice for them all really.
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Controversial, but I’ll say it. Last season’s team would beat this year’s.
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
The Houllier that no manager since has finished as high as in the table?
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Co-commentator asking why we aren't playing two strikers. Jesus Christ.
Sign up Jesus as a striker!
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Palace 1 up at Man. City after an hour really does sum up how pathetic we are against any decent technical team in this league.
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FFS - everything is just FFS.
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
McLeish wins that all day long.
Remi Garde for me.
It's been a poisoned chalice for them all really.
It's still Sherwood though.
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McGrath this has been wank so far. I wonder if I can sell my scorchios on ebay as don't think i'll be needing them for a while.
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Plenty of homophobia in the away end
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Agreed Des. We’ve gone up a division and not added a single player that’s better than what we had. Diabolical mismanagement.
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I've said it before, Smith's management didn't get us promoted. We were going one way under his stewardship last season until Grealish came back in and pretty much single-handedly dragged us back into the Premier League.
Smith is a chancer. We're suffering the same symptoms as Brentford before us. Everything about this season stinks.
Poor tactics, no ability to change the game. Team don't look fit and lack any effort/ability in games.. .and we've spunked over 100 million quid on pretty much garbage.
Tom Hanks is a Villa fan, but I doubt we'd give him the benefit of the doubt and let him steer us back to the Championship. Smith is employed to do a job, no matter his allegiance, and he's not bloody doing it.
Get rid.
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Who have we had with £140 million to spend? Poor Smith. Brummie through and through. Never given a chance. He is rubbish.
If he wasn’t a Villa fan he would be hounded out of existence by now.
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Haaland already his first hat trick...
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No changes smith great tactician
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Smith is going the right way to become the worst manager we have had since Gerard Houllier.
McLeish wins that all day long.
Remi Garde for me.
Yes Clouseau was a low point in a series of lower lows
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I meant that Houllier is the last competent manager we had.
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I would happily take Sam Allardyce tomorrow if offered. He would do for us what Pearson has done at Watford. I'm not a fan of his. But right now he's a million times better and million times less naive than Dean Smith is.
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Plenty of homophobia in the away end
Quelle surprise. A fair chunk of our away fans are fucking morons.
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Maupay is a little ******.
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This site is comedy gold. Three at the back isn't working so change to 4. A couple of weeks ago it was why stick with 4 at the back when it clearly isn't working.
Mate, you are by far a better fan than anyone else on here. Thanks for posting so often, I really love hearing from you.
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Haaland already his first hat trick...
£10mil cheaper than Wesley.
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Maupay is a little c***.
I wish he was our little ****** though.
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Plenty of homophobia in the away end
Quelle surprise. A fair chunk of our away fans are fucking morons.
Pick them out and ban them for life.
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Maupay is a little c***.
I wish he was our little c*** 😉
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Smith is paralysed by confusion or fear or ineptitude; absolutely nothing is happening on the pitch.
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I meant that Houllier is the last competent manager we had.
That makes more sense!
Sky seem to think we’re playing well this half.
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Haaland already his first hat trick...
£10mil cheaper than Wesley.
He isn't. Not by a long way. It's all in the fine print.
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Controversial, but I’ll say it. Last season’s team would beat this year’s.
Hands down. Luiz, Wes, Marvelous and Targett have been shit.
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Applying a bit of pressure now. Wouldn't it be nice to bring on a new striker off the bench at this point?
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Plenty of homophobia in the away end
Quelle surprise. A fair chunk of our away fans are fucking morons.
Pick them out and ban them for life.
Tbf the police have just thrown a couple of them out
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Maupay is a little c***.
I wish he was our little c*** though.
Haha. Me too.
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Smith a walking Peter principle Case study right now.
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Wouldn't it be nice to bring on a new striker off the bench at this point?
Crazy idea.
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12m for trezuget and he cant even control a ball
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Stop teasing now Villa and blow them away with our firepower.
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Luiz and Indy getting ready to come on
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Targett is a crap player. How on earth he hasn't been booked I dont know.
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Bloody Targett is doing well not to be booked today.
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Luiz getting ready to on
And Vassilev by the sound of it.
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What does it take for Smith to put Vassilev up front, put el ghazi wide & put jack back in the middle?!! No shape, constantly cough up the ball, no semblance of tactics, no heart, it’s like a dark comedy, Smith has been found out big time, so out of his depth, He needs to resign tonight!
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Luiz getting ready to on
And Vassilev by the sound of it.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a new hero...
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Targett is a crap player. How on earth he hasn't been booked I dont know.
He is so average. Can't believe the scouts/suso were looking at left backs for 15m and came up with him.
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Fucking do something.
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Pretty amazing that he has to watch 65 minutes of this dog shit to realise it isn't working.
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65th minute... must be Smith sub time any second now?
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Targett is a crap player. How on earth he hasn't been booked I dont know.
He is so average. Can't believe the scouts/suso were looking at left backs for 15m and came up with him.
I can, they're scouting has been appalling.
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Got to go for this, even at the risk of conceding further goals.
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Can see Brighton coming down with us. They're shite.
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Brighton bringing on another Full back.
Graham Potter realised they don't do anything stupid at the back they win this game.
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I hope that's the last we ever see of Drinkwater. And Smith, to be fair.
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Boos from the villa fans. Don't think they're happy about Trezeguet being taken off.
He hasn't played well, but he's been a lot fucking better than El Ghazi and, well, take your pick.
Mings has been our only bright point today.
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Taken 10 mins to get them on for fuck sake
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Got to go for this, even at the risk of conceding further goals.
This - Losing it 2-0 doesn't make that much difference. Drawing it could be massive.
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Trez is unlucky to be subbed because he was far from being our worst midfielder today.
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Jack's body language shows an unhappy player who is playing crap today
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"it's never over at 1-0" says the co-commentator.
I beg to differ.
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Unfortunately, we are the worst team I've seen this year.
At least Norwich look like a team, can play good football. We are awful.
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It's smacks of just rotating the same players in midfield with no impact or improvement and we've added Drinkwater to it with no impact or improvement....
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Fucking hell El Ghazi
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Look at Nakamba jogging back..no urgency to get to Mooy at all.
Get that fucker off. Useless.
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Just after turning it on gents, presume we are laying siege to their goal?
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Trez is unlucky to be subbed because he was far from being our worst midfielder today.
Should have been for Hause. Go for it - Don't need 5 at the back when you'd kill for a goal! Shambles of a management team.
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Look at Nakamba jogging back..no urgency to get to Mooy at all.
Get that fucker off. Useless.
Extremely lazy. Get off
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Fucking hell El Ghazi
Lucky not to have been subbed, awful again today.
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Only thing I'm hoping now is West Ham don't win. We need them close given the fixtures they have.
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Just after turning it on gents, presume we are laying siege to their goal?
It's a veritable cornucopia of beautiful football, evoking memories of Pele, Cruyff, Maradonna and Best.
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As the great SGT would say - We are a shambles.....
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"it's never over at 1-0" says the co-commentator.
I beg to differ.
Yep obviously hasn’t watched us. Fuck me all the promise of attacking football when Dean took over has disappeared to dust.
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Brighton's goal was their only shot on target.
They're not even any good but they're gliding past us.
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Only thing I'm hoping now is West Ham don't win. We need them close given the fixtures they have.
It’ll be irrelevant if we continue like we are.
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Guilbert showing glimpses of good play
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Look at Nakamba jogging back..no urgency to get to Mooy at all.
Get that fucker off. Useless.
Extremely lazy. Get off
He's an atrocious player. 11 million? Embarrassingly bad.
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we can’t take all the useless non performers off because we’re only allowed 3 subs
plus the bench is fully stocked with other useless non performers
so we’re fucked basically
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Jack's body language shows an unhappy player who is playing crap today
Did you watch him during the Man City game. When they had that penalty to make it 6, he went down on his haunches and put his hands up to cover his eyes.
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Guilbert showing glimpses of good play
He’ll be dropped soon then.
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we can’t take all the useless non performers off because we’re only allowed 3 subs
plus the bench is fully stocked with other useless non performers
so we’re fucked basically
And the biggest duffer of all is in the dugout.
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Get Nzonzi and Benteke in ffs. At least it'd give the fans a lift!
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JACK!!!!!!!!
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Have we scored?
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...and now he scores.
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Gooaaaaaallllll!!!! Jack!
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Definitely counts, yeah?
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Have we scored?
JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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At last.
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Fucking hell!
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Tfft
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Yesssss happier now
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Where in fucks name would we be without Jack Fucking Grealish?
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/cancels ebay listing
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Jack you iucking beauty.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Take them down from eBay!!!!! Jackkkkkkkkkk
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Don’t you just love our Jack!!!
He is a fuckin living legend.
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Brilliant finish but the pass is why I think there's a very good player in Luiz, brilliant ball to him.
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Score another and don’t concede Villa.
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Where in fucks name would we be without Jack Fucking Grealish?
Playing the likes of Exeter City down here in Devon my boot.
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Yesssss
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I love that man, love him.
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Mings done his hamstring again?
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And Mings injured?
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what a goal
100 million easy now
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Mings hamstring gone again ffs.
Just when we need to be nice and solid last ten minutes to claim a very good point.
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Super Super Jack, what a player
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What a finish. He's so far ahead of the rest of them it's embarrassing.
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Jack's body language shows an unhappy player who is playing crap today
Absolutely brilliant goal 🙌
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Fantastic finish from Jack
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If we stay up it's entirely down to him. Absolutely fookin brilliant.
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Stop celebrating and get the bloody ball
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Jack saving Dean Smith again!!
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Douglas Luiz really made a difference in fairness.
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Villa have woken up!
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Yes Jack! WHAT a finish... left foot too. Got Smith out of jail there.
He's leagues better than the fucktards he's playing with. Feel sorry for him, and would not begrudge him a move tomorrow.
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Glenn Murray coming on.
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Magnificent finish 🥳
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I love that man, love him.
He really is a special player.
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Hourihane coming on.
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Hourihane coming on.
Good. Beefing up the midfield.
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Indiana running around but I don’t think he’s touched the ball yet as he?
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Foul my arse.
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Reina saves us
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Phew, Reina saves well from Maupay.
Dozy defending.
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Has the site crashed? How we doing?
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Indiana running around but I don’t think he’s touched the ball yet as he?
Twice according to whoscored.com
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Fabulous save from Pepe
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Indiana running around but I don’t think he’s touched the ball yet as he?
Yeah, he's had a couple, nipped in and stole the ball of their defender before our goal.
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What a save
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4 mins added time
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4 minutes added on.
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City score 3 in the end, 1 OG
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Mings (on one leg) knows what's needed, whacks it miles up the pitch.
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Hate these minutes. Started notifications on livescore as it is ahead of the stream
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you twat Targett
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I hate Maupay. Small man syndrome. Non stop angry. Fuck off.
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FT
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malpay is a ******
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Hate these minutes. Started notifications on livescore as it is ahead of the stream
Same here, I keep refreshing this page as it’s always ahead of my stream so numbs the pain
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Great point, all things considered.
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Good good point that considering the shower of s*** we served up in the first hour.
West Ham not winning today was big in the long term I suspect aswell.
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Fight!
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FT
Livescore ahead of stream, and PWS ahead if livescore 💪😁
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you twat Targett
?
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Maupay is such a wanker. The skirmish at the end is the most fight I've seen out of our lot in ages
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Fight!
Great we need to in more ways than one
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Fuck Maupay.
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Maupay you little cock. Sore loser
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you twat Targett
?
Stupid yellow, pulling a player down by the neck. No need to concede the foul given where the play was. No real danger
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Why didn't Maupay get a second booking after the final whistle? Little gobshite.
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Take that point all day long. Got to get 3 on Tuesday!
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Thank the Lord for Jack Grealish
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Our players seemed to stick together when Maupay was kicking off yet his teammates were nowhere to be seen.
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you twat Targett
?
Stupid yellow, pulling a player down by the neck. No need to concede the foul given where the play was. No real danger
Not mixing with Houls?
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you twat Targett
?
Stupid yellow, pulling a player down by the neck. No need to concede the foul given where the play was. No real danger
If you mean the one where he and Maupay got booked, it was Hourihane. And stopped a promising attack.
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Oh dear. Maupay throwing his toys out of the pram (again) at the end. What a prize nobber. 😁
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Maupay you little cock. Sore loser
Nothing wrong with being a sore loser.
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Maupay should be red carded for that outbust
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you twat Targett
?
Stupid yellow, pulling a player down by the neck. No need to concede the foul given where the play was. No real danger
Not mixing with Houls?
yeh my bad. Given where it was I assumed Targett.
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Maupay should be red carded for that outbust
I think a smacked bottom would be more appropriate tbh!