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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2020, 06:23:11 PM

Title: Mbwana Samatta. Signed. Puns still banned.
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2020, 06:23:11 PM
As it seems a goer, he now has his own thread.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on January 16, 2020, 06:29:28 PM
Anyone know what type of forward he is?
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Post by: Border villan on January 16, 2020, 06:30:57 PM
Anyone know what type of forward he is?
Not sure as I have seen so few examples in a Villa shirt recently.
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Post by: walsall villain on January 16, 2020, 06:39:08 PM
Anyone know what type of forward he is?
Injured knowing our luck
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 16, 2020, 06:43:50 PM
Don't think we've ever had a Tanzanian before
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Post by: Legion on January 16, 2020, 06:44:56 PM
Who?
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Post by: django on January 16, 2020, 06:46:37 PM
Nothing? Whatísamatta with you?

*Grabs coat* Sorry.
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Post by: TonyD on January 16, 2020, 06:48:02 PM
Has a good scoring ratio.
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Post by: devilla on January 16, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
Is it right that he can't play on Saturday because his work permit won't be done by then?
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Post by: richtheholtender on January 16, 2020, 06:53:47 PM
Leaves villa in 2021 because he doesnít work hard enough and has been bombed out the squad.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 16, 2020, 06:54:48 PM
Reminds me a bit in his movement and quickness of Sane. Can score with both feet and his head. At least right now he can...
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Post by: Ads on January 16, 2020, 06:55:08 PM
Leaves villa in 2021 because he doesnít work hard enough and has been bombed out the squad.

We will have been liquidated by then anyway. Fortunately for us, nuclear war will have broken out and we'll all be dead.
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Post by: LeeB on January 16, 2020, 07:07:06 PM
Leaves villa in 2021 because he doesnít work hard enough and has been bombed out the squad.

We will have been liquidated by then anyway. Fortunately for us, nuclear war will have broken out and we'll all be dead.

Nah, the end of the world will come when we're 4-0 up in the 89th minute of the FA Cup final.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 16, 2020, 07:07:13 PM
Any way ÖÖÖ according to the BBC "Mbwana Samatta has scored 43 league goals in 98 appearances for Genk in Belgium's top flight"

Lets hope he can replicate that type of return for us in the Premier League, or if the unthinkable occurs, in the Championship

Nuclear war permitting, of course :)
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Post by: Villan For Life on January 16, 2020, 07:14:03 PM
It must be true, heís got his own thread on here and it was mentioned in the 6.30pm news bulletin on Radio 2.

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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 16, 2020, 07:25:51 PM
Be brilliant, please.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on January 16, 2020, 07:31:29 PM
Yes thatíd be nice.
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Post by: ozzjim on January 16, 2020, 07:32:30 PM
Looks quick, mobile and decent on the ball. All 3 attributes you want in a striker. Has half a chance, and by the look of him would be very decent of we went down.
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Post by: brian green on January 16, 2020, 07:34:57 PM
Jump high.  Run fast. Don't go out with Drinky to a bar or with JT to a betting shop and you will do us fine.
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Post by: Legion on January 16, 2020, 07:40:42 PM
Looks quick, mobile and decent on the ball. All 3 attributes you want in a striker. Has half a chance, and by the look of him would be very decent of we went down.

It would be eminently preferable if he kept us up.
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Post by: Legion on January 16, 2020, 07:50:18 PM
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Post by: Legion on January 16, 2020, 07:50:49 PM
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 16, 2020, 07:50:50 PM
Nothing? Whatísamatta with you?

*Grabs coat* Sorry.

I really hope you are the last person to say that.

It's probably the first thing that comes to mind.
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Post by: KevinGage on January 16, 2020, 07:54:56 PM
Couldn't finish his dinner based on most of that highlights reel.

He'll fit right in.
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Post by: Border villan on January 16, 2020, 08:10:24 PM
Dave can you change the title of this thread to ď whatís Samatta you, hey ď to save on the puns. 👍
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Post by: django on January 16, 2020, 08:29:48 PM
Nothing? Whatísamatta with you?

*Grabs coat* Sorry.

I really hope you are the last person to say that.

It's probably the first thing that comes to mind.

Of course I wonít be.
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Post by: brian green on January 16, 2020, 08:30:03 PM
He is going to be one hell of a handfull with Jack behind him.
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Post by: brian green on January 16, 2020, 08:31:37 PM
A Villa centre forward who can head the ball.  Whey Hey!
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Post by: Ads on January 16, 2020, 08:38:26 PM
He seems to play on the shoulder and occupy defenders with mobility rather than brute strength.

If he can score us 5 goals, he will have done well.
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Post by: Legion on January 16, 2020, 08:41:05 PM
On his debut.
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Post by: themossman on January 16, 2020, 08:42:39 PM
Couldn't finish his dinner based on most of that highlights reel.

He'll fit right in.

Thatís my take away! Canít recall another YouTube reel where about 10% of the chances are converted!
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Post by: garyshawsknee on January 16, 2020, 08:43:00 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 16, 2020, 08:45:01 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
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Post by: garyshawsknee on January 16, 2020, 08:47:32 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

I can't believe I've never heard of this before. Read that after Tommy Doc got fired, their Villa careers were pretty much done.
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Post by: Border villan on January 16, 2020, 08:48:25 PM
Saw them both on the pitch, but never saw them play!
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Post by: N'ZMAV on January 16, 2020, 08:50:32 PM
another gamble - bit of a sure-thing would have been ideal. But, hey-ho.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 16, 2020, 08:52:54 PM
They played in the 69/70 season

Mwila played 1 game, Blackpool (H) 0-0
Kapengwe played 3, Carlisle (H) 1-0, the Blackpool game, and Millwall (A) lost 2-0.
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Post by: Border villan on January 16, 2020, 08:53:28 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
Is that Lew Chatterley in the background?
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Post by: garyshawsknee on January 16, 2020, 08:56:29 PM
Cheers for the info and cracking picture.
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Post by: dave shelley on January 16, 2020, 09:09:53 PM
Please turn out to be a good 'un.
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Post by: Clampy on January 16, 2020, 09:11:30 PM
another gamble - bit of a sure-thing would have been ideal. But, hey-ho.

Maybe, but even signing that AC Milan bloke for £30m would have been a gamble. He might have struggled.
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Post by: Des Little on January 16, 2020, 09:13:07 PM
This other striker we are getting really does need to have Prem experience, thatís for sure.
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Post by: Legion on January 16, 2020, 09:17:47 PM
We're getting another one? Faints.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 16, 2020, 09:19:08 PM
He seems to play on the shoulder and occupy defenders with mobility rather than brute strength.

If he can score us 5 goals, he will have done well.
Yep, 5 would be very welcome.  8 would be instant hero status.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 16, 2020, 09:22:39 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)

Jackie Sewell, part of our last FA Cup-winning team, also went on to play ten games for Zambia (scoring seven goals). He had previously won six England caps (three goals).
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Post by: Villa Lew on January 16, 2020, 09:23:55 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
Is that Lew Chatterley in the background?

Yes good spot
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Post by: Legion on January 16, 2020, 09:24:33 PM
Has the one on the left wet himself?
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 16, 2020, 09:41:57 PM
Great picture - is Chatterley walking towards Andy Lochhead ? Or maybe Fred Turnbull?
Or did Lochhead join the following season
I saw Mwila and Kapengwe in their home appearances
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Post by: brian green on January 16, 2020, 09:49:43 PM
I saw them when I was home on leave.  The player behind Lew does not look big enough to be Andy Lochhead.  Looks like the build and physique of Charlie Aitken.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on January 16, 2020, 09:52:26 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
Is that Lew Chatterley in the background?

Yes good spot

My first ever Villa kit - and we were relegated. My grandad bought it for me as a Christmas present from Harry Parkes when I was 7. About the only place that sold them back then.
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Post by: brian green on January 16, 2020, 09:53:31 PM
Or maybe not.  His face looks too chubby.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 16, 2020, 09:55:07 PM
I know this probably a little sad but Iím just massively excited he can head the ball.
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Post by: TonyD on January 16, 2020, 09:57:44 PM
I know this probably a little sad but Iím just massively excited he can head the ball.
And heís not Wes.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 16, 2020, 10:00:20 PM
I know this probably a little sad but Iím just massively excited he can head the ball.

I hope I'm not damning him with faint praise, because I really like the look of him, but he seems to have something of the Lewis Grabban about him (Grabban at his best, at the level we were at, I should add).
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 16, 2020, 10:00:38 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
Is that Lew Chatterley in the background?

Yes good spot

My first ever Villa kit - and we were relegated. My grandad bought it for me as a Christmas present from Harry Parkes when I was 7. About the only place that sold them back then.
Harry Parkes shop was magnificent - my parents were friends with Harry as my mother worked for George Edwards - He always gave us a decent discount - I had the yellow away kit from that time ...used to get my boots from there - one of a few places where you could get Adidas at that time
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Post by: brian green on January 16, 2020, 10:01:45 PM
Me too TV.  Sharp intake of breath by me at that clip where he leaps and arches his back so that he can head the ball down.  Perfect technique after all the years we have watched the ball come off our strikers heads like a bar of Palmolive off a wet watermelon.
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Post by: Border villan on January 16, 2020, 10:02:29 PM
I saw them when I was home on leave.  The player behind Lew does not look big enough to be Andy Lochhead.  Looks like the build and physique of Charlie Aitken.
I would go for Aitken as he only has a left leg!
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 16, 2020, 10:05:18 PM
The other Villa players for that Blacpool game were

Phillips
Wright
Aitken
Hole
Chatterley
Bruce Rioch
Turnbull
Godfrey
Martin

And Rudge came on as a sub.

Lochhead joined a couple of months later.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 16, 2020, 10:06:03 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
Is that Lew Chatterley in the background?
Yep!
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Post by: Legion on January 16, 2020, 10:06:03 PM
No Oscar?
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Post by: brian green on January 16, 2020, 10:20:35 PM
I wonder if the right leg you can see is Jimmy Armfield's.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 16, 2020, 10:28:06 PM
What would VAR have to say about this picture ?
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 16, 2020, 10:30:26 PM
The other Villa players for that Blacpool game were

Phillips
Wright
Aitken
Hole
Chatterley
Bruce Rioch
Turnbull
Godfrey
Martin

And Rudge came on as a sub.

Lochhead joined a couple of months later.
Thanks for that PWS - good work
The "mystery player" could be any one of a few in that team - whoever it is looks quite broad around the neck
My father and I travelled home and away from our homes in firstly Hall Green and then Worcester during that season - was that the season Dave Rudge broke his leg at Preston ?
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Post by: brian green on January 16, 2020, 10:33:48 PM
Yes, thank you PWS.  Much appreciated.
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Post by: purpletrousers on January 16, 2020, 10:56:39 PM
Don't think we've ever had a Tanzanian before

As your resident occasional East African correspondent*, I think itís good to know Tanzania is a compound name of its two states of Tanganyika and Zanzibar.

*missing the Sheffield game but hoping to get to Ugandaís SC Villa Vs Bright Stars the day before, and perhaps our shock League Cuo Final victory in a bar with the Kampala Lions...
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 16, 2020, 10:59:11 PM
Iíve never heard of him, good luck to the bloke.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 16, 2020, 11:10:21 PM
I’ve never heard of him, good luck to the bloke.

Surprising, considering he's posted 910 times on here.
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Post by: Ads on January 16, 2020, 11:21:27 PM
Theres a thread on Twitter @TheEnamelWorks which had the story of those two Zambian players, with some more good photos.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 16, 2020, 11:49:42 PM
another gamble - bit of a sure-thing would have been ideal. But, hey-ho.

Maybe, but even signing that AC Milan bloke for £30m would have been a gamble. He might have struggled.

Agree, as he hasn't reproduced his Genoa form in Milan, lots of intangibles when buying players. e.g. even Harry Kane would be a gamble atm. Two major injuries iin the last 2 years where he's out for half a season aged 25-26. Wouldn't like to be splashing out close to 100m plus wages for 3-4 years on him.

OTOH I can't think another Tanzanian striker I'd rather sign than Mbwana! ;)
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 16, 2020, 11:51:52 PM
Iíve never heard of him, good luck to the bloke.

Surprising, considering he's posted 910 times on here.

;D ;D
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Post by: Damo70 on January 17, 2020, 12:09:13 AM
Anyone with a goal ratio of nearly one goal every two games in a central European league must be half decent at least.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 17, 2020, 12:47:05 AM
I know this probably a little sad but Iím just massively excited he can head the ball.

Not at all. Iím just massively excited he can run. He's going to be a handful for defenders and even if not scoring he may open up space for other players.

Good luck to him.
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Post by: andyh on January 17, 2020, 08:18:06 AM
Are both his legs the same length ?
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Post by: Clampy on January 17, 2020, 08:34:49 AM
Are both his legs the same length ?

Very good.
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Post by: sickbeggar on January 17, 2020, 08:50:10 AM
Another hopeful punt. Good be great, could be bobbins. Belgium league is pish but doesn't mean he can't step up - least he should be ready at 27.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 17, 2020, 09:15:57 AM
Tanzania sounds even better if you pronounce it the same way as you would Tasmania.
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Post by: Oscar Arce on January 17, 2020, 09:17:33 AM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
Is that Lew Chatterley in the background?

I was there at that game, it was a terrible 0-0 draw in torrential rain.
Mwila and Kapengwe only played a couple of times after that, they were signed by Doc after we played a Summer tournament in the States, and they starred against us for Atlanta Chiefs.
Kapengwe was a bull of a player, Mwila had a good touch but was easily knocked off the ball.
Freddie went on to have a good coaching career in Africa, Emment sadly died in 1988 aged 45 from a stroke.
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Post by: Drummond on January 17, 2020, 09:18:48 AM
Leaves villa in 2021 because he doesnít work hard enough and has been bombed out the squad.

We will have been liquidated by then anyway. Fortunately for us, nuclear war will have broken out and we'll all be dead.

Nah, the end of the world will come when we're 4-0 up in the 89th minute of the FA Cup final.

We'll all die really fucking deliriously happy then!
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Post by: Demitri_C on January 17, 2020, 09:28:03 AM
Another gamble - we need someone proven. Id even consider andre gray
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Post by: maidstonevillain on January 17, 2020, 09:29:24 AM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
Is that Lew Chatterley in the background?

I was there at that game, it was a terrible 0-0 draw in torrential rain.
Mwila and Kapengwe only played a couple of times after that, they were signed by Doc after we played a Summer tournament in the States, and they starred against us for Atlanta Chiefs.
Kapengwe was a bull of a player, Mwila had a good touch but was easily knocked off the ball.
Freddie went on to have a good coaching career in Africa, Emment sadly died in 1988 aged 45 from a stroke.

From a thread last year.

https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=59407.0
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 17, 2020, 09:38:52 AM
Seems a bit of a random one apart from being another from Belgium. The bloke we've got out there must be the only one that submits any scouting reports. Anyway, on the one hand he's again got no experience of the PL or English football which would have been par for the course if he was 5 years younger but he does have some experience and a half decent scoring record but i would have expected if we were going for someone more 'finished article' age it would have been someone from the PL. I suppose if he was on a shortlist of players that they think would be a good signing for us and was the only one available right now then so be it. Good luck to him anyway, it's a gamble but no reason to cast judgement on this one until he's had a good run of games.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 17, 2020, 09:50:47 AM
He is Muslim, so shouldn't be tempted to go the pub with Drinkwater.
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Post by: mallo on January 17, 2020, 10:09:50 AM
He looks mobile, quick feet and scores with both and can head it. Why at 27 he hasn't been snapped up by someone else I don't know but the main attributes are there. At the very least he'll take the pressure off us with an outlet ball to him a la Vardy. I'm not expecting miracles but if he can score 5 important goals he could keep us up. Another in and we have a chance. Can we create him enough chances is the main question.
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Post by: Hillbilly on January 17, 2020, 10:12:04 AM
Tanzania sounds even better if you pronounce it the same way as you would Tasmania.
Show us yer map of Tanzania doesn't quite work in the same way though.
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Post by: Drummond on January 17, 2020, 10:18:50 AM
*This is a tenuous link to anything else on the thread.

I met some Tanzanian people in the hospital waiting room a couple of months ago when my friend was in intensive care after a heart attack. Really nice folk who cooked a meal while they waited (well warmed up one they'd made earlier). I commented on how nice the smell was and they insisted I have some.

Maharage Beans, which is a national dish. I highly recommend it with some Mchusi Sauce.....

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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 17, 2020, 10:22:50 AM
Lets hope he is a Tanzanian Devil
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Post by: Ads on January 17, 2020, 10:28:20 AM
His work permit is expected to be granted.
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Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 17, 2020, 10:39:56 AM
Name could be shoehorned into Hacuna Matata, chant fans.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 17, 2020, 10:43:15 AM
*This is a tenuous link to anything else on the thread.

I met some Tanzanian people in the hospital waiting room a couple of months ago when my friend was in intensive care after a heart attack. Really nice folk who cooked a meal while they waited (well warmed up one they'd made earlier). I commented on how nice the smell was and they insisted I have some.

Maharage Beans, which is a national dish. I highly recommend it with some Mchusi Sauce.....

How about on toast with a light cheese topping, or with sausage and chips...?
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 17, 2020, 10:57:57 AM
Google translates his name from the Swahili as Mr Samatta.
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Post by: Drummond on January 17, 2020, 10:58:52 AM
*This is a tenuous link to anything else on the thread.

I met some Tanzanian people in the hospital waiting room a couple of months ago when my friend was in intensive care after a heart attack. Really nice folk who cooked a meal while they waited (well warmed up one they'd made earlier). I commented on how nice the smell was and they insisted I have some.

Maharage Beans, which is a national dish. I highly recommend it with some Mchusi Sauce.....

How about on toast with a light cheese topping, or with sausage and chips...?

Normally you'd have it with Pilau rice and chapatti. But I think your idea could work...
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Post by: Drummond on January 17, 2020, 10:59:40 AM
Anything on toast with cheese sprinkled on top is good though.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 17, 2020, 11:03:48 AM
Indeed.

Sounds more like an Indian type dish then (love all that). Am i correct in thinking that Tanzania is one of the African countries that had a lot of immigrants from India to work on the railways 100 years or so ago so that's where the cuisine link comes from or am i talking out of my arse / dreamed that...?
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Post by: Drummond on January 17, 2020, 11:11:58 AM
Yep they came over in the 1800s and liked Zanzibar.... Freddie Mercury was born there (Zanzibar) and he was of Indian descent..
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 17, 2020, 11:19:40 AM
No chance of him having a Belgium passport, Tanzania don't allow dual citizenship.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 17, 2020, 11:20:25 AM
Thought it was, and knew Freddie was of Indian descent but didn't realise he was born there. Lets hope this guy is the best thing to come out of Tanzania since Freddie then!
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Post by: darren woolley on January 17, 2020, 11:53:05 AM
I must admit I've never heard of him until now hopefully he does the business for us and it the ground running we are desperate for a striker who scores goals.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 17, 2020, 12:22:39 PM
He may be a complete flop and we get relegated.
On the plus side we are all a little better informed about season 1969/70 and the merits of African cuisine.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 17, 2020, 12:24:46 PM
He may be a complete flop and we get relegated.
On the plus side we are all a little better informed about season 1969/70 and the merits of African cuisine.
Thanks that's put a smile on my face ALITA :)
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Post by: walsall villain on January 17, 2020, 12:26:02 PM
He is Muslim, so shouldn't be tempted to go the pub with Drinkwater.
He might go to the pub and drinkwater
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Post by: walsall villain on January 17, 2020, 12:28:21 PM
Thought it was, and knew Freddie was of Indian descent but didn't realise he was born there. Lets hope this guy is the best thing to come out of Tanzania since Freddie then!
My son has a friend from Zambia who forwarded the picture to his dad. This is the reply.. 
Yes , Freddie was with Rhokana United and Emment with Kitwe United.  In their last days  we recruited  Freddie to coach  Ndola United while I was working for Ndola City Council.  That's how he was my work mate and  flatmate at Davis Court . He now lives in Lusaka
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 17, 2020, 12:28:24 PM
Coming to villa park

https://youtu.be/h2EQgvWfk6Q

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Post by: Hookeysmith on January 17, 2020, 12:59:33 PM
It happens to other teams that they buy a player who hits the ground running and scores goals and becomes a hero instantly

Just for once - let it be us
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Post by: LeeB on January 17, 2020, 01:05:42 PM
It happens to other teams that they buy a player who hits the ground running and scores goals and becomes a hero instantly

Just for once - let it be us

Bruce always seemed to pull some unknown rabbit out of his big fat arse when at Wigan and Hull that would just come in and start performing and keep them up.

You're right, it's about time we got one.
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Post by: brian green on January 17, 2020, 02:29:43 PM
I like the look of him.  If ever a centre forward could jump a stuck front gate he would look like Mbwana.
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 17, 2020, 03:58:51 PM
Coming to villa park

https://youtu.be/h2EQgvWfk6Q


Might have to wait a while for that.

Though the law of averages should make sure this has to be a useful striker.
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 17, 2020, 04:08:44 PM
He is Muslim, so shouldn't be tempted to go the pub with Drinkwater.

You clearly haven't met Aftab. ;)
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Post by: frank black on January 17, 2020, 06:28:36 PM
Doesnít Mbwana mean Mr/gentleman.

So itís really Ally Samatta. 🤷‍♂️

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Post by: lovejoy on January 17, 2020, 06:37:15 PM
So has he stretched the shirt yet?
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Post by: Clampy on January 17, 2020, 06:45:53 PM
Is there anyway of fitting Ally Samatta into Alice What's the Matter by Terrorvision?
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Post by: SashasGrandad on January 17, 2020, 06:51:33 PM
Doesnít Mbwana mean Mr/gentleman.

So itís really Ally Samatta. 🤷‍♂️



Google translate says it means Sir - so maybe he has been knighted!
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Post by: Smirker on January 17, 2020, 06:53:42 PM
Coming to villa park

https://youtu.be/h2EQgvWfk6Q

Nice, let's steal it.
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Post by: TonyD on January 17, 2020, 09:13:55 PM
It means ďbossĒ.
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Post by: TonyD on January 17, 2020, 09:17:20 PM
Has he signed?
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Post by: Holy Trinity on January 17, 2020, 09:27:05 PM
Has he signed?

Medical this weekend. Its 100% happening unless he fails his medical or cant get a permit (if he even needs one)
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Post by: eamonn on January 17, 2020, 09:47:49 PM
He's staying in downtown Digbeth tonight, he might look a mean fuxker but he's far from home so keep an eye on him.
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Post by: Dazvillain on January 18, 2020, 12:17:01 AM
Most clubs seem to present their players a couple of hours after medical , not us.
Wonder if delay due to jimmy danger one being held up, a problem with his own medical or will we wait for work permit before Announcement ? He wonít be available tues either at this rate ?
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Post by: Legion on January 18, 2020, 12:18:06 AM
?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on January 18, 2020, 12:18:28 AM
Most clubs seem to present their players a couple of hours after medical , not us.
Wonder if delay due to jimmy danger one being held up, a problem with his own medical or will we wait for work permit before Announcement ? He wonít be available tues either at this rate ?

Or maybe he hasn't had his medical yet.
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Post by: Dante Lavelli on January 18, 2020, 01:48:59 AM
Got to love H&V.  Puns get banned so an old photo gets dug up so we can talk about that, African railways and random foods.  Top work.
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Post by: JJ-AV on January 18, 2020, 07:35:27 AM
Welcome aboard Samatta. A lot of people are moaning and saying his pedigree isn't great and his YouTube doesn't look brilliant... He looks like a terrier to me, someone who will chase defenders down and give them a physical battle, precisely what we've lacked.

If the ball goes forward and he's pressing defenders, it may allow Jack more space and get us up the pitch. Over the course of 90 minutes that'll make a huge difference.
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Post by: Ads on January 18, 2020, 07:57:22 AM
Micah Richards was on 5 Live before Sheffield United away. He was talking about that sliding doors game and how Vardy never stops. He is constantly on your shoulder running you here, there and everywhere and how mentally, as much as physically, that makes him hard to cope with. We had obviously had a lesson in the pointy faced git a week or two before.

That's what we're crying out for. Pace and persistent application to run in behind and turn that defence. He needs to be able to score as well, but that style of striker is what we've needed all season.
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Post by: Vill I An on January 18, 2020, 12:06:00 PM
Excellent signing of Scaramanga the 3rd nipple of our front 3 going big up top.
Top scorer last season in league a proven scorer. Will get goals.
Of course the main issue is the settling in period.
Once he is then no doubt he'll be our Mane in a front 3.
Trezeguet is equivalent of Salah.
So we are getting creative with the attack .
As Deano said risks to be taken. I don't doubt
that he won't score goals - just he'll also be missing chances - and his adaptation is the concern .
Like Abraham he'll miss a few golden ones but this man has the natural quality to get a goal or two.
Pleasing.
I would say  he'll be like Mane for villa. And within 12 months Jan 21 people will be talking like he's that too
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Post by: LukeJames on January 18, 2020, 12:27:03 PM
Excellent signing of Scaramanga the 3rd nipple of our front 3 going big up top.

Ive read this over and over, I have no idea if its a good, bad or seedy thing.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 18, 2020, 12:30:02 PM
I'm still reeling from the concept of Trezeguet being our equivalent of Salah.
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Post by: Legion on January 18, 2020, 12:31:09 PM
As well as the comparison to Mane.
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Post by: Vill I An on January 18, 2020, 12:43:06 PM
Contextually people !
Like it's well documented like how Smith wants a front 3 dynamic of Liverpool.
And wants players to replicate that playing style
Grealish once said in an interview Smith wanted him playing like Liverpool attacker.

When the manager puts me there (on the left-wing) he said to me he wants me to play likeÖIím not on their level, like the Liverpool front three,Ē said Grealish on Sky Sportsí Monday Night
(22:07, Monday, November 25th).
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Post by: brian green on January 18, 2020, 01:20:15 PM
I get Salah and Mane.  They are football players, right, but where do nipples come into the metaphor?  Perhaps it is a reference to Staevie.  Tits on a Bull.
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Post by: jwarry on January 18, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
Some bloke on AVFCForLife tweeted a pic of him and Samatta at Plough in Shenstone. Said he asked him if heís signed and he said heís waiting for his visa soon EU passport by the sound of it
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Post by: jwarry on January 18, 2020, 01:26:42 PM
Some bloke on AVFCForLife tweeted a pic of him and Samatta at Plough in Shenstone. Said he asked him if heís signed and he said heís waiting for his visa soon EU passport by the sound of it

Sorry FB not Twitter
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Post by: Allan C on January 18, 2020, 01:31:36 PM
Please stay fit and score a few early goals.

 Not sure where to post this, but as we've signed an African ill try here. One for the older heads, but I read on twitter today that in the late 60s under Tommy Doc, we signed two Zambians who only played a few times between them. I'd never heard of this before, any one have any recollections ?

Freddie Mwila and Emment Kapengwe.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/69/75/f4/6975f4b0e1bf4f731626f406211e1264.jpg)
Is that Lew Chatterley in the background?

Yes good spot

My first ever Villa kit - and we were relegated. My grandad bought it for me as a Christmas present from Harry Parkes when I was 7. About the only place that sold them back then.
Mine too  loved that kit and cos it was my first itís also my favourite. Vaguely remember the two players in a friendly  1970 I think ???
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Post by: Damo70 on January 18, 2020, 01:36:50 PM
Samatta used to play for a team called Simba.

Does that mean he will be our 'Lion King'?


You have to allow me that one because I arrived too late for the Joe Dolce punfest.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 18, 2020, 01:43:55 PM
I'm still reeling from the concept of Trezeguet being our equivalent of Salah.

He's Egyptian, what more do you want?

Like how Wesley is our version of Pele.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 18, 2020, 01:46:56 PM
I'm still reeling from the concept of Trezeguet being our equivalent of Salah.

He's Egyptian, what more do you want?

Like how Wesley is our version of Pele.

Ah, so that makes El Ghazi our Cruyff. With you now. Sorry everyone!

You'd think that we'd try Gareth Bale further up the pitch. He's wasted at left back.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 18, 2020, 02:11:00 PM
Can't believe we are wasting Raul in goal, either.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 18, 2020, 02:43:15 PM
Lots of people replying to the club's tweets in Swahili. I think Tanzania is excited about this transfer.
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Post by: JJ-AV on January 18, 2020, 05:09:18 PM
Is there any chance heís eligible for Tuesday?
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Post by: aev on January 18, 2020, 06:16:43 PM
Smith isnít sure he will be available for Tuesday.

Suso/Purslow donít come out of this lack of striker episode very well at all.
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Post by: Vill I An on January 18, 2020, 07:10:07 PM
The internet is far more costly in Tanzania than it is in UK or Belgium maybe this could be an issue for the paperwork.
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Post by: Villafirst on January 18, 2020, 07:51:45 PM
Smith isnít sure he will be available for Tuesday.

Suso/Purslow donít come out of this lack of striker episode very well at all.

Agree, they fucked up in August with striker recruitment. I felt uneasy at the time with the lack of choice in attack. If we and several pundits could forsee it, why couldn't they?
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Post by: brian green on January 18, 2020, 08:30:07 PM
Perhaps they are not on speaking terms. 
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 18, 2020, 09:15:37 PM
Smith isnít sure he will be available for Tuesday.

Suso/Purslow donít come out of this lack of striker episode very well at all.
Does Smith know his arse from his elbow?? Communication within the club seems poor at the minute .....why on earth wasn't a work permit sorted at the start of the window?
Purslow appears to have gone shy all of a sudden leaving Smith as his stool pigeon
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Post by: Clampy on January 18, 2020, 09:18:26 PM
Perhaps they are not on speaking terms. 

Perhaps Smith is the worst manager since Houllier.
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Post by: frank black on January 18, 2020, 09:19:25 PM
As the work permit is in the hands of civil servants, Iím confident he will be good to go on Tuesday.
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 18, 2020, 09:24:33 PM
Perhaps they are not on speaking terms. 

Perhaps Smith is the worst manager since Houllier.

Iím pretty sure you are the biggest shit stirrer in that period.
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Post by: frank black on January 18, 2020, 09:28:54 PM
The Smith out thread is open again? 😂
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Post by: Legion on January 18, 2020, 09:30:44 PM
Be nice. Please.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 18, 2020, 09:34:23 PM
Smith isnít sure he will be available for Tuesday.

Suso/Purslow donít come out of this lack of striker episode very well at all.
Does Smith know his arse from his elbow?? Communication within the club seems poor at the minute .....why on earth wasn't a work permit sorted at the start of the window?
Purslow appears to have gone shy all of a sudden leaving Smith as his stool pigeon

Smith sorts the work permits out?! No wonder the team looks so out of joint. Between recruitment, admin and the stitching on the badge I doubt he gets more than half an hour a week with them.
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Post by: Mister E on January 18, 2020, 09:41:11 PM
Smith isnít sure he will be available for Tuesday.

Suso/Purslow donít come out of this lack of striker episode very well at all.
Does Smith know his arse from his elbow?? Communication within the club seems poor at the minute .....why on earth wasn't a work permit sorted at the start of the window?
Purslow appears to have gone shy all of a sudden leaving Smith as his stool pigeon
come on!
These things are (i) not predictable and (ii)  nothing to do with Smith.
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 18, 2020, 09:42:16 PM
Be nice. Please.


No problem. A bit of a pattern here though?

clampy is a shit stirrer. 
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Post by: Legion on January 18, 2020, 09:44:55 PM
It was not specifically aimed at you at all. Just a follow-up to the nonsense being put on the temporarily locked Smith Out thread before this one goes the same way.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 18, 2020, 10:05:22 PM
Smith isnít sure he will be available for Tuesday.

Suso/Purslow donít come out of this lack of striker episode very well at all.
Does Smith know his arse from his elbow?? Communication within the club seems poor at the minute .....why on earth wasn't a work permit sorted at the start of the window?
Purslow appears to have gone shy all of a sudden leaving Smith as his stool pigeon

Smith sorts the work permits out?! No wonder the team looks so out of joint. Between recruitment, admin and the stitching on the badge I doubt he gets more than half an hour a week with them.
Where have I suggested Smith is responsible for work permits? I am Sure he is more than busy enough setting traps and picking up the cones and bibs ;)
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 18, 2020, 10:08:18 PM
How things have changed, DS now being mocked for mentioning modern coaching methods that he was praised to the rafters for understanding only 12 months ago.
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Post by: mike on January 18, 2020, 10:18:19 PM
How things have changed, DS now being mocked for mentioning modern coaching methods that he was praised to the rafters for understanding only 12 months ago.

I donít think heís being mocked for mentioning modern methods. I think the suggestion is that the traps seem not to be working too well. 
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Post by: maidstonevillain on January 18, 2020, 10:25:19 PM
How things have changed, DS now being mocked for mentioning modern coaching methods that he was praised to the rafters for understanding only 12 months ago.

I donít think heís being mocked for mentioning modern methods. I think the suggestion is that the traps seem not to be working too well. 

I think he was being mocked.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 18, 2020, 10:27:02 PM
Smith isnít sure he will be available for Tuesday.

Suso/Purslow donít come out of this lack of striker episode very well at all.
Does Smith know his arse from his elbow?? Communication within the club seems poor at the minute .....why on earth wasn't a work permit sorted at the start of the window?
Purslow appears to have gone shy all of a sudden leaving Smith as his stool pigeon

Smith sorts the work permits out?! No wonder the team looks so out of joint. Between recruitment, admin and the stitching on the badge I doubt he gets more than half an hour a week with them.
Where have I suggested Smith is responsible for work permits? I am Sure he is more than busy enough setting traps and picking up the cones and bibs ;)
Smith isnít sure he will be available for Tuesday.

Suso/Purslow donít come out of this lack of striker episode very well at all.
Does Smith know his arse from his elbow?? Communication within the club seems poor at the minute .....why on earth wasn't a work permit sorted at the start of the window?
Purslow appears to have gone shy all of a sudden leaving Smith as his stool pigeon

Smith sorts the work permits out?! No wonder the team looks so out of joint. Between recruitment, admin and the stitching on the badge I doubt he gets more than half an hour a week with them.

Where have I suggested Smith is responsible for work permits?

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Does Smith know his arse from his elbow?? Communication within the club seems poor at the minute .....why on earth wasn't a work permit sorted at the start of the window?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on January 18, 2020, 10:29:16 PM
Why would you be sorting a work permit for a player two weeks before you're even being linked with him?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 18, 2020, 10:38:59 PM
It's an absolute disgrace we didn't sort this work permit years ago. Smith out. Suso out. Owners out. All out.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/carryon/images/6/61/Bernie_and_Vic_outside_the_factory.png/revision/latest?cb=20160610143328)
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 18, 2020, 10:53:35 PM
Why would you be sorting a work permit for a player two weeks before you're even being linked with him?
I think it's called forward planning ......unless Suso or Smith have only just pulled Samattas` name out of a hat this last two weeks
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Post by: dave.woodhall on January 18, 2020, 10:56:50 PM
Why would you be sorting a work permit for a player two weeks before you're even being linked with him?
I think it's called forward planning ......unless Suso or Smith have only just pulled Samattas` name out of a hat this last two weeks

Or unless you can't apply for a work permit for a player, or any other employee, until you've made a firm job offer? Which happened, I understand, on Friday.
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 18, 2020, 10:57:42 PM
Can you get a work permit application in for a player you are thinking of maybe signing?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 18, 2020, 10:59:22 PM
Maybe he wasn't our first choice, or second. Maybe his club were messing us around. Maybe he was. There's a number of things that could have led to us only signing him now.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 18, 2020, 11:19:56 PM
Maybe he wasn't our first choice, or second. Maybe his club were messing us around. Maybe he was. There's a number of things that could have led to us only signing him now.
Fair comment PWS .... I accept that the January Transfer window Is notoriously a difficult time to bring in the calibre of players wanted but we have known since August/September That we were light in the strikers department and I would of thought that Suso would have been earning his salary in identifying targets ready for the opening of the window ....all very frustrating for the club and fans
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Post by: itmustbe_it is! on January 18, 2020, 11:32:08 PM
I suspect if "we" get him a work permit, then suddenly he could sign for anyone , precedent having been set?
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 18, 2020, 11:48:11 PM
January is a miserable time to get players. I donít have an issue with how this has been handled as Iím sure no club wants to sell their best players. And this lad appears to be one of their best players.
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Post by: paul_e on January 18, 2020, 11:52:53 PM
Maybe he wasn't our first choice, or second. Maybe his club were messing us around. Maybe he was. There's a number of things that could have led to us only signing him now.
Fair comment PWS .... I accept that the January Transfer window Is notoriously a difficult time to bring in the calibre of players wanted but we have known since August/September That we were light in the strikers department and I would of thought that Suso would have been earning his salary in identifying targets ready for the opening of the window ....all very frustrating for the club and fans

Until the 1st of January we had a striker who, whilst not playing as well as we might have hoped, was doing ok which meant a backup/competition for him was important but not desperate.
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Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 19, 2020, 12:21:08 AM
Maybe he wasn't our first choice, or second. Maybe his club were messing us around. Maybe he was. There's a number of things that could have led to us only signing him now.
Fair comment PWS .... I accept that the January Transfer window Is notoriously a difficult time to bring in the calibre of players wanted but we have known since August/September That we were light in the strikers department and I would of thought that Suso would have been earning his salary in identifying targets ready for the opening of the window ....all very frustrating for the club and fans

Until the 1st of January we had a striker who, whilst not playing as well as we might have hoped, was doing ok which meant a backup/competition for him was important but not desperate.

Was important but not desperate, really? I think what with Kodjia not been fancied all season and Davisí innocuous injury keeping him out for the last how many months the lack of an alternative has been to the detriment of Wesley and the team as a whole.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on January 19, 2020, 12:23:42 AM
Maybe he wasn't our first choice, or second. Maybe his club were messing us around. Maybe he was. There's a number of things that could have led to us only signing him now.
Fair comment PWS .... I accept that the January Transfer window Is notoriously a difficult time to bring in the calibre of players wanted but we have known since August/September That we were light in the strikers department and I would of thought that Suso would have been earning his salary in identifying targets ready for the opening of the window ....all very frustrating for the club and fans

Until the 1st of January we had a striker who, whilst not playing as well as we might have hoped, was doing ok which meant a backup/competition for him was important but not desperate.

Was important but not desperate, really? I think what with Kodjia not been fancied all season and Davisí innocuous injury keeping him out for the last how many months the lack of an alternative has been to the detriment of Wesley and the team as a whole.
Itís been apparent for months that Wes was struggling,, so there was every reason to treat the matter with some urgency.
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Post by: paul_e on January 19, 2020, 12:54:55 AM
I knew I'd get responses almost exactly like that but you've ignored the fact that I said it was important anyway (and therefore implied that Wesley getting injured had no impact at all on our signings, which is clearly wrong) and you need to look at it from Smith's perspective. He was quite openly happy with the performances he was getting from Wesley but had pretty obviously lost any faith in Kodjia. He therefore, on December 31st, thought he had a solid first choice and was looking to add 'plan b' by allowing Kodjia to move on and getting in someone to replace him. Hence it was important.

Losing Wes for the season as we did then changed things because we suddenly needed a 'plan a' striker as well. That made it desperate but also meant we were starting a new search for a target man/focal point striker when we'd been planning around signing someone quite different.

Samatta is, I believe, the option we've gone with for the 'plan b' role, you can see he plays on the shoulder and looks to run in behind rather than hold up the ball and let people move around him (which is the role we were using Wes in, irrespective of if people think he was doing well enough or not). This means we're still looking for the hold-up player to replace Wes, with Slimani being a pretty obvious nod in that direction (and Murray too). I also believe that Smith sees Davis as offering the same type of play and was happy with him as a backup to Wes so losing him for such a long period was a big blow as well.

Again, this isn't about whether 'we' believe Wes is good enough (I do, most on here clearly don't) but rather about the priorities Smith had going in to this window and how the Burnley game affected them, for me it threw their plans completely off and they were suddenly looking for 2 signings that were never even considered in meetings building up to the window.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on January 19, 2020, 07:16:27 AM
You are right, the difference of opinion is the belief in the suitability of Wes to be plan A.
Smith obviously did which in my and many others opinion was wrong.
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Post by: Ads on January 19, 2020, 09:31:55 AM
The Mail saying this should be done today. I'm not sure if this means his work permit too?
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Post by: andyh on January 19, 2020, 09:46:04 AM
Noel Whelan (yes, Noel fucking Whelan) has been having his Ďinvaluableí say about all things Villa and the Samatta signing.  Of course he was less than positive.

Samattaís fans are not too impressed and someone from Tanzania has tweeted this response.
Read it, its absolutely brilliant.

https://twitter.com/dailytanzania/status/1218804624737652736?s=21

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Post by: Risso on January 19, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Noel Whelan (yes, Noel fucking Whelan) has been having his Ďinvaluableí say about all things Villa and the Samatta signing.  Of course he was less than positive.

Samattaís fans are not too impressed and someone from Tanzania has tweeted this response.
Read it, its absolutely brilliant.

https://twitter.com/dailytanzania/status/1218804624737652736?s=21



Ha ha, fantastic! "We will bite you every corner of you stupid body."
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Post by: Newby on January 19, 2020, 09:49:14 AM
Amy?  Who is Amy?  She sounds dangerous and if I was Noel Whelan, I would be sweating!!

Not in a sexual way either!!
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Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2020, 09:54:54 AM
Noel Whelan...should be playing bass in a shit Leeds-based Oasis tribute band.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 19, 2020, 10:06:08 AM
The way I saw it, we went into the season with 1 new £20m + striker, a promising youngster and a player who had previously done well for us but was unlikely to step up to this level fighting for 1 place as the central striker. We had 3 players also battling for 2 positions out wide in Jota, El Ghazi and Trez and I personally have a hunch that they tried to sign one or two more for those positions but couldn't get them over the line. I had no problem with this scenario. The issues have arisen since in that all of them have been underwhelming/injured which in truth I'm not sure most of us would have bet on beforehand. People keep moaning about Wes and the lack of other options but if any of the wide players had shown any consistent quality I don't think it would have been such an issue. What you would have hoped is that player or players would have been lined up to come in straight away in Jan, a new wide player and a new central striker with PL experience. We don't know how much time and effort has gone into this from all concerned, none of us really know what goes into this and the difficulties that they may have had. As it looks, we're signing a player who looks decent but again has no PL experience, I reckon he was already on a shortlist and he's the only one they've been able to secure so far, simple as that. In order to survive, I would suggest that we sign a quality wide player with PL experience and loan a temporary cover player for Wes, (i.e Benteke if he's available as you'd imagine), and I also think that we need a proper defensive midfield player with PL experience (not Drinkwater and I'm still baffled by that one), because as I've said all along, none of the midfielders we have are that type of player except Nakamba and he's dipped alarmingly to the point of not being the player to help to get us out of this shit.
I hope that they can bring these players in, I would be extremely concerned if not.
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Post by: Ads on January 19, 2020, 12:30:44 PM
Looking likely to be done in time for Tuesday it seems.
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Post by: LukeJames on January 19, 2020, 12:32:22 PM
Looking likely to be done in time for Tuesday it seems.

The signing and work permit?
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Post by: Legion on January 19, 2020, 12:33:14 PM
ITSOTP, hopefully.
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Post by: Border villan on January 19, 2020, 12:37:02 PM
ITSOTP, hopefully.
?
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Post by: Ads on January 19, 2020, 12:38:04 PM
Looking likely to be done in time for Tuesday it seems.

The signing and work permit?

Yes, appears that way.
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Post by: LukeJames on January 19, 2020, 12:41:41 PM
Good stuff, this will be a huge boost hopefully.
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Post by: Legion on January 19, 2020, 12:43:46 PM
In The Shirt On The Pitch (ITSOTP).
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Post by: Border villan on January 19, 2020, 12:49:27 PM
In The Shirt On The Pitch (ITSOTP).
👍
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Post by: Jon Crofts on January 19, 2020, 12:49:56 PM
An actual striker for Tuesday.


(https://i.ibb.co/LSQS7vF/49-DADC95-E076-4449-A21-E-31-BA7440-E1-C0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LSQS7vF)
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 19, 2020, 12:53:15 PM
I was underwhelmed with the signing at first, but I can't wait to see how he gets on.
He certainly has a plenty of fans, home and in Belgium.

There must be something about him.
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Post by: Big Ming on January 19, 2020, 12:58:29 PM
Be nice if he can play without fear, unlike most of the rest of them.It's been going on a bit too long now.
Perhaps we can actually try and string a 90 minute performance together against Watford..... say Burnley first half with Brighton second half.
Anyway, it would be nice to see a determined effort to win, as opposed to trying to avoid defeat.
Welcome, Mbwana. Please try to hit the ground running. Know it's a big ask.
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Post by: Ads on January 19, 2020, 01:14:17 PM
He's not played in 3 weeks, so he might not be the sharpest.
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 19, 2020, 02:13:56 PM
Does anybody subscribe to The Athletic?

Supposed to be a good article on there about Samatta.
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Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2020, 03:09:43 PM
He's not played in 3 weeks, so he might not be the sharpest.

Him and Drinky can try and outsharpen each other then.
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Post by: Border villan on January 19, 2020, 05:13:23 PM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.
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Post by: Legion on January 19, 2020, 05:16:21 PM
https://theathletic.com/1541652/2020/01/19/villa-mbwana-ally-samatta-transfer-profile/
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Post by: Damo70 on January 19, 2020, 05:25:32 PM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.


If we don't play Joe Dolce over the PA prior to his debut I will be gutted. It would be pure 'music theatre'.
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Post by: Damo70 on January 19, 2020, 05:28:30 PM
He's not played in 3 weeks, so he might not be the sharpest.



To be fair the most recent footage of Drinkwater and Reina playing prior to joining us is on Pathe Newsreel.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 19, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.


If we don't play Joe Dolce over the PA prior to his debut I will be gutted. It would be pure 'music theatre'.
Wasn't Joe Dolce from Sutton Coldfield? Is he still around ? If so he could sing the song in front of the Holte like that bloke singing Ynwa on the last day of the Holte terracing - against Liverpool
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 19, 2020, 05:39:57 PM
He's not played in 3 weeks, so he might not be the sharpest.

Is this supposed to be ironic? 3 weeks is nothing.
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Post by: frank black on January 19, 2020, 05:44:20 PM
Amazed we got the work permit sorted that quickly.
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Post by: Damo70 on January 19, 2020, 05:52:00 PM
He's not played in 3 weeks, so he might not be the sharpest.

That was exactly what Banik Ostrava told us when we signed Ivo Stas  ;)
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Post by: andyh on January 19, 2020, 06:29:38 PM
Amazed we got the work permit sorted that quickly.
Who said we have?
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 19, 2020, 06:32:38 PM
I presume he  will not have trained with the squad as he had no work permit and I think the Belgian League has been on  a winter break for a few weeks, so expecting him to make an impact from the start is putting a lot of pressure on the guy -does anyone know  is he multi lingual?
I wish him well but fear the level of expectation will be burdensome
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 19, 2020, 06:32:54 PM
Amazed we got the work permit sorted that quickly.
Who said we have?

Ads
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 19, 2020, 06:34:11 PM
I think most Tanzanians can speak English.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 19, 2020, 06:36:53 PM
I think most Tanzanians can speak English.
I thought that might be the case :)
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Post by: eric woolban woolban on January 19, 2020, 06:44:29 PM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.


If we don't play Joe Dolce over the PA prior to his debut I will be gutted. It would be pure 'music theatre'.
Wasn't Joe Dolce from Sutton Coldfield? Is he still around ? If so he could sing the song in front of the Holte like that bloke singing Ynwa on the last day of the Holte terracing - against Liverpool
Born in America.
You're thinking of Rene of Rene and Renata fame!
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Post by: Ads on January 19, 2020, 06:46:34 PM
Amazed we got the work permit sorted that quickly.
Who said we have?

It's not clear whether we have, but the Mail and a few other journalists believe he'll be signed in time for Watford, so the presumption is yes.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 19, 2020, 06:47:44 PM
I bet he won't be. I remember Ron Vlaar missing about ninety-seven successive games and he was going to be available for ninety-four of them. It's best to just assume the worst where we are concerned.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 19, 2020, 06:53:28 PM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.


If we don't play Joe Dolce over the PA prior to his debut I will be gutted. It would be pure 'music theatre'.
Wasn't Joe Dolce from Sutton Coldfield? Is he still around ? If so he could sing the song in front of the Holte like that bloke singing Ynwa on the last day of the Holte terracing - against Liverpool
Born in America.
You're thinking of Rene of Rene and Renata fame!
That's the one !!!   I'm now trying to remember what their one hit wonder was :)
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 19, 2020, 06:54:23 PM
Save Your Love
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Post by: Legion on January 19, 2020, 06:55:07 PM
...my darling...
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 19, 2020, 06:55:58 PM
Save Your Love
Cheers PWS ......that's now my " ear worm" for the rest of the evening 
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Post by: Louzie0 on January 19, 2020, 07:11:28 PM
1. Very pleased to hear Samatta is ours in time for Tuesday 👍


2. So. Joe Dolce. If not Sutton Coldfield, is there at least a WM referent?
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Post by: ktvillan on January 19, 2020, 07:15:21 PM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.


If we don't play Joe Dolce over the PA prior to his debut I will be gutted. It would be pure 'music theatre'.
Wasn't Joe Dolce from Sutton Coldfield? Is he still around ? If so he could sing the song in front of the Holte like that bloke singing Ynwa on the last day of the Holte terracing - against Liverpool
Born in America.
You're thinking of Rene of Rene and Renata fame!
That's the one !!!   I'm now trying to remember what their one hit wonder was :)

Renee was the woman, the geezer was Renato.  Sad that I know that I know, but there is a cafe/bar in Mere Green called Renato's with a big mural of the two of them and apparently owned by said crooner.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 19, 2020, 07:25:50 PM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.


If we don't play Joe Dolce over the PA prior to his debut I will be gutted. It would be pure 'music theatre'.
Wasn't Joe Dolce from Sutton Coldfield? Is he still around ? If so he could sing the song in front of the Holte like that bloke singing Ynwa on the last day of the Holte terracing - against Liverpool
Born in America.
You're thinking of Rene of Rene and Renata fame!
That's the one !!!   I'm now trying to remember what their one hit wonder was :)

Renee was the woman, the geezer was Renato.  Sad that I know that I know, but there is a cafe/bar in Mere Green called Renato's with a big mural of the two of them and apparently owned by said crooner.

BFR was a regular, wasn't he?

Speaking of whom, my sister made my nephew get his photo taken with BFR a few months back when they ran in to him in their village's Tesco, despite him (my nephew) not having a clue who he was.

Also, Jack Grealish has bought a house across the road.

That's been your Barnt Green update. I'm Sexual Ealing, back to the studio.
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Post by: frank black on January 19, 2020, 07:34:28 PM
Amazed we got the work permit sorted that quickly.
Who said we have?

It's not clear whether we have, but the Mail and a few other journalists believe he'll be signed in time for Watford, so the presumption is yes.

As a former civil servant, I will be very surprised if all is done for Tuesday and no one has hinted/said that it will be. Just that things are progressing well. I wonít expect him to be playing, but hope Iím wrong.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 19, 2020, 07:35:52 PM
I suppose it's still possible we might get also another loan in on Monday or Tuesday.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on January 19, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
So is it confirmed he has passed medical, has all the completed paperwork necessary for him to play Tuesday?

I've not even seen confirmation we have actually signed him yet ???
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Post by: frank black on January 19, 2020, 07:41:28 PM
So is it confirmed he has passed medical, has all the completed paperwork necessary for him to play Tuesday?

I've not even seen confirmation we have actually signed him yet ???
Nope itís not confirmed
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Post by: Risso on January 19, 2020, 07:55:21 PM
My nan who lived in Mere Green was friends with Renato and his family.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 19, 2020, 08:26:11 PM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.


If we don't play Joe Dolce over the PA prior to his debut I will be gutted. It would be pure 'music theatre'.
Wasn't Joe Dolce from Sutton Coldfield? Is he still around ? If so he could sing the song in front of the Holte like that bloke singing Ynwa on the last day of the Holte terracing - against Liverpool
Born in America.
You're thinking of Rene of Rene and Renata fame!
That's the one !!!   I'm now trying to remember what their one hit wonder was :)

Renee was the woman, the geezer was Renato.  Sad that I know that I know, but there is a cafe/bar in Mere Green called Renato's with a big mural of the two of them and apparently owned by said crooner.

Renato died in 2009.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renato_Pagliari

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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 19, 2020, 08:35:15 PM
That scuppers my suggestion then
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 19, 2020, 08:48:42 PM
He may be a complete flop and we get relegated.
On the plus side we are all a little better informed about season 1969/70 and the merits of African cuisine.

Please add locally based one hit wonders from the early 1980s and a guide to eating establishments in Mere Green.

One of the most informative threads in a long while.

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Post by: brian green on January 19, 2020, 08:59:46 PM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 19, 2020, 09:15:42 PM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

Brent?! How very dare you, Mr Green! I live in Ealing, London's greenest borough, on a lifelong loan from from Salop. Brent is a terrible borough, London's greyest. I nearly moved to Brentford, but that's in Hounslow, where the planes go.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 19, 2020, 10:13:02 PM
I don't like how folk from That London pronounce the first syllable of Hounslow like it rhymes with "town" when I always think it should be said as if it rhymes with "bun".
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 19, 2020, 10:22:33 PM
I don't like how folk from That London pronounce the first syllable of Hounslow like it rhymes with "town" when I always think it should be said as if it rhymes with "bun".

You're bang wrong there, cd.

House and mouse called. They miss you.
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Post by: Louzie0 on January 19, 2020, 10:32:21 PM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

Wylde Greenís where itís at, brian.
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Post by: thick_mike on January 19, 2020, 11:30:24 PM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

Wylde Greenís where itís at, brian.

You make my heart sing.
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Post by: Damo70 on January 19, 2020, 11:36:37 PM
Amazed we got the work permit sorted that quickly.
Who said we have?

It's not clear whether we have, but the Mail and a few other journalists believe he'll be signed in time for Watford, so the presumption is yes.

As a former civil servant, I will be very surprised if all is done for Tuesday and no one has hinted/said that it will be. Just that things are progressing well. I wonít expect him to be playing, but hope Iím wrong.


Maybe the civil servants process things quicker these days than in your days Frank  ;)
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Post by: Vill I An on January 19, 2020, 11:42:39 PM
For the premier league Ally Samatta can score at least 5  goals this season.
And I see capabilities of him scoring 8+ goals by end of season especially if he's given penalty taking responsibilities.
Looking forward to having a goal getter up front once again in the Villa team and a real difference to making chance to win games .


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Post by: purpletrousers on January 20, 2020, 12:11:29 AM
When he is announced, with the shirt stretch, can we have a 24/48 punfest window to allow us all to get it out of our systems.


If we don't play Joe Dolce over the PA prior to his debut I will be gutted. It would be pure 'music theatre'.
Wasn't Joe Dolce from Sutton Coldfield? Is he still around ? If so he could sing the song in front of the Holte like that bloke singing Ynwa on the last day of the Holte terracing - against Liverpool
Born in America.
You're thinking of Rene of Rene and Renata fame!
That's the one !!!   I'm now trying to remember what their one hit wonder was :)

Renee was the woman, the geezer was Renato.  Sad that I know that I know, but there is a cafe/bar in Mere Green called Renato's with a big mural of the two of them and apparently owned by said crooner.

My Dad (who I think joined here recently) worked at Barclays in Mere Green.
Being the magnanimous West Mids footy fan, as well as (praise be, forever indebted..) taking tiny me to Highbury/Rotterdam etc, we used to borrow a mateís ST at the baggies if he was on holls & Villa were away.

We also got hosted in a box @ West Brom once or twice by one of his restaurant owning customers, I think I need to check it wasnít said Renato.
Most impressively we had plenty of scratch cards in the box, I was given them all to scratch and amazingly allowed to keep the winnings.

Nope just checked

Courtesy of the Meaing Evil

Quote
Renato supported Aston Villa and became good friends with ex-boss Ron Atkinson.

Paying tribute, Atkinson said: ďI loved the fella, he was brilliant. He was one of the nicest guys I have met in my life. He was good natured, great to be with and we had some great wind-ups with each other on the golf course.Ē

<<<Also of interest>>>

He entered TV talent show New Faces in 1975 and caught the attention of songwriter Johnny Edward, who wrote Save Your Love.

* Songwriter Johnny Edward Ė real name John Flex Ė was the voice and creator of Metal Mickey.

* During his early career, writer Johnny Edward was guitarist in The Manish Boys, whose lead singer David Jones later became known as... David Bowie.

* Christmas top 10 1982:

1. Renee and Renato: Save Your Love

2. Shakiní Stevens: Blue Christmas

3. David Bowie and Bing Crosbie: Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy

4. Culture Club: Time (Clock of the Heart)

5. Madness: Our House

6. Phil Collins: You Canít Hurry Love

7. David Essex: A Winterís Tale

8. Modern Romance: Best Years of our Lives

9. Lionel Richie: Truly

10. The Jam: Beat Surrender

So from Joe Dolce to Metal Mickey/Bowie via BFR. Only @H&V
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Post by: purpletrousers on January 20, 2020, 12:12:58 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

Wylde Greenís where itís at, brian.

You make my heart sing.

This brought a smile.
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Post by: ktvillan on January 20, 2020, 12:52:03 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     
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Post by: purpletrousers on January 20, 2020, 12:57:07 AM
He may be a complete flop and we get relegated.
On the plus side we are all a little better informed about season 1969/70 and the merits of African cuisine.

Please add locally based one hit wonders from the early 1980s and a guide to eating establishments in Mere Green.

One of the most informative threads in a long while.


1980s Mere Green eating:
Is the chippy still there? We went every Monday night without fail after swimming at Wyndley Leisure Centre for years and years, another of my Dadís customers over the road at Barclays, the owner was always very friendly.
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Post by: Small Rodent on January 20, 2020, 07:15:57 AM
Amazed we got the work permit sorted that quickly.
Who said we have?

It's not clear whether we have, but the Mail and a few other journalists believe he'll be signed in time for Watford, so the presumption is yes.

As a former civil servant, I will be very surprised if all is done for Tuesday and no one has hinted/said that it will be. Just that things are progressing well. I wonít expect him to be playing, but hope Iím wrong.


Maybe the civil servants process things quicker these days than in your days Frank  ;)

This government is more likely to deport him before heís got a visa.
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Post by: Louzie0 on January 20, 2020, 07:24:28 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

Wylde Greenís where itís at, brian.

You make my heart sing.

This brought a smile.
Same here, great on a frosty Monday morning.
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 20, 2020, 07:43:39 AM
Renatoís restaurant, which I think was called something else, was in Lichfield.
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Post by: Ugo on January 20, 2020, 08:19:26 AM
Renatos son, Remo, owned the restaurant in Lichfield. He now works as a chef on Virgin trains. Renatos cafe/restaurant/bar is nothing to do with the family. It is owned by the following company:

https://thelounges.co.uk

Remo is a big Villa fan and his Dad was a top fella but passed some years back. He lived very close to the Bartonís, who still frequent the Mere Green bars.
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Post by: maidstonevillain on January 20, 2020, 08:35:04 AM
Renatoís restaurant, which I think was called something else, was in Lichfield.

Used to visit the Mere Green restaurant frequently with my parents when Renato was the "singing waiter". Sometime after he left the Mere Green restaurant, which he didn't own, he opened a restaurant somewhere in Moseley area.
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Post by: postal on January 20, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Well, I cant see Samatta being signed in time for Watford, hopefully for 28 Jan for the EFL Cup Semi-Final, but you would hope even our recruitment could get it done by 1 Feb when we go to Bournemouth. Cant they?  ::)
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Post by: frank black on January 20, 2020, 09:41:47 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

Wylde Greenís where itís at, brian.

You make my heart sing.

This brought a smile.
Same here, great on a frosty Monday morning.
Amazed we got the work permit sorted that quickly.
Who said we have?

It's not clear whether we have, but the Mail and a few other journalists believe he'll be signed in time for Watford, so the presumption is yes.

As a former civil servant, I will be very surprised if all is done for Tuesday and no one has hinted/said that it will be. Just that things are progressing well. I wonít expect him to be playing, but hope Iím wrong.


Maybe the civil servants process things quicker these days than in your days Frank  ;)

A lot less of em now thatís for sure. Maybe a computer will do it, probably called a VISATRON and been in use since 1972.
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Post by: Risso on January 20, 2020, 09:44:10 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".
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Post by: kieron on January 20, 2020, 09:50:23 AM
Could someone with a bigger brain than I help to confirm whether we'd have to have him signed / registered by noon today or we can't play him tomorrow?
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Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2020, 10:04:43 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.
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Post by: Breezeblock on January 20, 2020, 10:06:31 AM
Renatos son, Remo, owned the restaurant in Lichfield. He now works as a chef on Virgin trains. Renatos cafe/restaurant/bar is nothing to do with the family. It is owned by the following company:

https://thelounges.co.uk

Remo is a big Villa fan and his Dad was a top fella but passed some years back. He lived very close to the Bartonís, who still frequent the Mere Green bars.
There was also one in Little Church Lane, Tamworth.  Did nice calzone but not been there for yonks. Not even sure if it's still there
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Post by: Risso on January 20, 2020, 10:07:07 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

I can tell you roughly where it is.
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Post by: WarszaVillan82 on January 20, 2020, 10:22:55 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

I can tell you roughly where it is.

The Birmingham Yoker
 


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Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2020, 10:34:38 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

I can tell you roughly where it is.

The Birmingham Yoker
 




Ha ha, I love Limmy. He pure channels 'stoned Paul Lambert' for Dee Dee.
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Post by: oldtimernow on January 20, 2020, 10:59:40 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

Slade Road?

More Aston and Stockland Green.

Roughly can be nearly anywhere you want it to be on that basis.
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Post by: ktvillan on January 20, 2020, 11:01:21 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

Slade Road is Roughley I'd say.  One of the things I like about living round there, having grown up in Smethwick,  is that almost everyone is Villa.   
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Post by: ktvillan on January 20, 2020, 11:02:49 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

Slade Road?

More Aston and Stockland Green.

Roughly can be nearly anywhere you want it to be on that basis.

That's a different Slade Road.
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 20, 2020, 11:03:04 AM
I can only imagine the hold up on the transfer is that we are awaiting final approval from Noel Whelan and Danny Mills.
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Post by: Des Little on January 20, 2020, 11:27:54 AM
There's only so much you can do to kill time in Shenstone
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Post by: frank black on January 20, 2020, 11:29:05 AM
Need to be done by 12 today doesnít it? (To play tomorrow)
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Post by: tony scott on January 20, 2020, 11:35:22 AM
Is it possible we could capture another striker before this lad signs ?
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Post by: postal on January 20, 2020, 11:38:00 AM
Is it possible we could capture another striker before this lad signs ?

Thats a bit greedy... you'd obviously dont agree with the club policy of having a one (fit) forward  ::)
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Post by: oldtimernow on January 20, 2020, 11:46:19 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

Slade Road?

More Aston and Stockland Green.

Roughly can be nearly anywhere you want it to be on that basis.

That's a different Slade Road.

The Original Slade I might suggest 

Not some posher out of town version ;)

My Slade is better than yours cos it's nearer to "home"  and I bet I'm older than you too
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Post by: Villafirst on January 20, 2020, 11:49:16 AM
Is it possible we could capture another striker before this lad signs ?

Thats a bit greedy... you'd obviously dont agree with the club policy of having a one (fit) forward  ::)

Who's that?
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Post by: Border villan on January 20, 2020, 11:51:43 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

Slade Road?

More Aston and Stockland Green.

Roughly can be nearly anywhere you want it to be on that basis.

That's a different Slade Road.

This is all crazy now.
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Post by: Des Little on January 20, 2020, 11:51:45 AM
Is it possible we could capture another striker before this lad signs ?

There's more chance of me capturing Kylie Minogue and Bella Hadid for a night in.
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Post by: oldtimernow on January 20, 2020, 11:54:50 AM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

Slade Road?

More Aston and Stockland Green.

Roughly can be nearly anywhere you want it to be on that basis.

That's a different Slade Road.

This is all crazy now.

Any better ideas for filling in the waiting time will be accepted!
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Post by: olaftab on January 20, 2020, 11:56:14 AM
There's more chance of me capturing Kylie Minogue and Bella Hadid for a night in.
I am their agent Des so do you want me to quote rates as they are both available tonight?😉
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Post by: Breezeblock on January 20, 2020, 12:14:40 PM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

Slade Road?

More Aston and Stockland Green.

Roughly can be nearly anywhere you want it to be on that basis.

That's a different Slade Road.

This is all crazy now.

Any better ideas for fillin
g in the waiting time will be accepted!
Still waiting for a striker. In the meantime Merry Christmas, Everybody!

Sorry, I Won't Let It 'Appen Agen!
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Post by: Holy Trinity on January 20, 2020, 12:14:55 PM
Here's hoping the paperwork has been filed
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Post by: Big Ming on January 20, 2020, 12:28:41 PM
Nothing on the OS yet.
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Post by: Big Ming on January 20, 2020, 12:32:45 PM
Nothing on the OS yet.

Must be some Watford fans handling registrations at the Premier League.
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Post by: Holy Trinity on January 20, 2020, 12:34:32 PM
Well we only have to file the paperwork by 12. We can announce him wherever we want after its filed I guess
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Post by: Holy Trinity on January 20, 2020, 12:37:25 PM
Oops double post
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Post by: Jon Crofts on January 20, 2020, 12:40:00 PM
Is it 12 or 5:30? I dunno. Just sign a fucking striker you bastards.
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Post by: Des Little on January 20, 2020, 12:41:01 PM
There's more chance of me capturing Kylie Minogue and Bella Hadid for a night in.
I am their agent Des so do you want me to quote rates as they are both available tonight?😉

Yes please!  I won't need all night.  20  mins should do it
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Post by: oldtimernow on January 20, 2020, 12:48:17 PM
There's more chance of me capturing Kylie Minogue and Bella Hadid for a night in.
I am their agent Des so do you want me to quote rates as they are both available tonight?😉

Yes please!  I won't need all night.  20  mins should do it

BOGOF?
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 20, 2020, 12:51:40 PM
He'll surely not be available for the game tomorrow, at this point. Would be very (pleasantly) surprised.
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Post by: postal on January 20, 2020, 12:54:51 PM
Is it possible we could capture another striker before this lad signs ?

Thats a bit greedy... you'd obviously dont agree with the club policy of having a one (fit) forward  ::)

Who's that?

The fit forward will be Samatta if he ever signs and is announced
The other one,will be the "capture another striker before this lad signs". No idea who.

I'm hopeful for Vassilev might be a a bit of gem, even if he runs around confusing the opposition that we have a "striker"

UTV
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Post by: Ugo on January 20, 2020, 01:00:18 PM
Renatoís restaurant, which I think was called something else, was in Lichfield.

Used to visit the Mere Green restaurant frequently with my parents when Renato was the "singing waiter". Sometime after he left the Mere Green restaurant, which he didn't own, he opened a restaurant somewhere in Moseley area.
The Gondola? Was above the music shop. Emma Willis, her of TV presenting fame, was also a waitress there.
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Post by: maidstonevillain on January 20, 2020, 01:00:41 PM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.     

I've just checked where my nan lived, and it was the bottom end of Slade Road which by my reckoning puts it more in Roughley than Mere Green.  Anyway it was there that my Villa journey began, as both grandparents were Villa fans.  My nan used to get her hair done by one of her friends, 'Aunty' Pauline, who had a parrot that used to say "Up the Villa".

I used to see 'Roughley' on the bus in town, and still to this day I haven't got a fucking clue where it is supposed to be.

Slade Road?

More Aston and Stockland Green.

Roughly can be nearly anywhere you want it to be on that basis.

That's a different Slade Road.

This is all crazy now.

And to send the thread even further off subject, Noddy Holder lived in Pilkington Avenue.
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Post by: maidstonevillain on January 20, 2020, 01:04:52 PM
Renatoís restaurant, which I think was called something else, was in Lichfield.

Used to visit the Mere Green restaurant frequently with my parents when Renato was the "singing waiter". Sometime after he left the Mere Green restaurant, which he didn't own, he opened a restaurant somewhere in Moseley area.
The Gondola? Was above the music shop. Emma Willis, her of TV presenting fame, was also a waitress there.

Thanks for that. I've been wracking my brain to remember the original name of the restaurant.
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 20, 2020, 01:14:34 PM
For the premier league Ally Samatta can score at least 5  goals this season.
And I see capabilities of him scoring 8+ goals by end of season especially if he's given penalty taking responsibilities.
Looking forward to having a goal getter up front once again in the Villa team and a real difference to making chance to win games .



Do you know in which games, and who will assist? also which minute?
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Post by: Scratchins on January 20, 2020, 01:28:01 PM


And to send the thread even further off subject, Noddy Holder lived in Pilkington Avenue.
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John Gidman lived in Pilkington Avenue
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Post by: Villafirst on January 20, 2020, 01:47:43 PM
I wonder if the deal has hit a snag? No forward again for a massive game tomorrow night. Unbelievable that we're at the 20th January with no new striker.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 20, 2020, 01:50:12 PM
Shambolic not to have a forward for four successive matches. Probably be at least five, too.
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Post by: Big Ming on January 20, 2020, 01:51:06 PM
For the premier league Ally Samatta can score at least 5  goals this season.
And I see capabilities of him scoring 8+ goals by end of season especially if he's given penalty taking responsibilities.
Looking forward to having a goal getter up front once again in the Villa team and a real difference to making chance to win games .
Very optimistic to assume that we will be spending enough time in the opposition box to win penalties.



Do you know in which games, and who will assist? also which minute?
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Post by: frank black on January 20, 2020, 01:58:49 PM
I wonder if the deal has hit a snag? No forward again for a massive game tomorrow night. Unbelievable that we're at the 20th January with no new striker.

Work permit application will be sat with relevant department and I assume we have no influence over the timescale here.
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Post by: postal on January 20, 2020, 02:00:39 PM
Shambolic not to have a forward for four successive matches. Probably be at least five, too.

Shambolic doesnt begin to describe the situation
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Post by: chrisw1 on January 20, 2020, 02:02:34 PM
Imagining some Watford or West Ham fan dealing with the workpermit, oops that accidentally slipped to the bottom of my in-tray...
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Post by: Rudy65 on January 20, 2020, 02:06:09 PM
How does Sexual Ealing from Brent know all about Barnt Green and I a mere Green have never heard of Mere Green.  Bordesley, yes, Acocks, yes, Soylent, yes.  Mere?  Uh uh.

It's basically a bit of Four Oaks in Sutton Coldfield Brian.  A roundabout, some shops, a pub, a petrol station, a few restaurants  and a primary school.  The Renato's that's there now is in a fairly new precinct, Mulberry Walk,  so couldn't be the one frequented by BFR.  And I guess owned by Renato's family, since the big man has shuffled off the mortal coil.  It's dog and kid friendly and the mural is quite something.   

When BFR managed us he lived in Barnt Green - south Birmingham by Longbridge. However, when he managed the Baggies, he lived in Four Oaks of which Mere Green is part and was partial to a bit of singing at Renato's in Mere Green. His daughter went to the same school as me and we sat next to each other in English. It was a bog standard comprehensive, so no idea why she went there with the likes of me.
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Post by: frank black on January 20, 2020, 02:07:31 PM
Imagining some Watford or West Ham fan dealing with the workpermit, oops that accidentally slipped to the bottom of my in-tray...

Sending it back because itís not in black ink and the signature is not totally within the allocated box!
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Post by: LukeJames on January 20, 2020, 02:09:19 PM
Not sure why this one wasnt done earlier tbh, with it being a release clause met for the transfer and not having to go through the process of having bids turned down etc then surely the meeting of the release clause part of the transfer should of been done as soon as the window opened. I can only presume that he wasnt our 1st choice.

I feel its bad planning to leave us so short in such an important area of the pitch going into such a critical period of fixtures .
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Post by: Ads on January 20, 2020, 02:10:15 PM
Smith saying deal done, bar the waiting on the work permit.

Damn those pencil pushers at City hall!

He is also confident we will get another striker in.

This is from the Mail.
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Post by: LukeJames on January 20, 2020, 02:12:09 PM
Deal done but not playing tomorrow as the work permit not ready according to Smith on SSN.
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Post by: aev on January 20, 2020, 02:14:58 PM
Madness we are going into another game (against a team around us in the league) without a striker.
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Post by: Rudy65 on January 20, 2020, 02:20:30 PM


And to send the thread even further off subject, Noddy Holder lived in Pilkington Avenue.

John Gidman lived in Pilkington Avenue
[/quote]

Noddy lived in Hartopp Rd on the Four Oak estate as I remembering visiting with my sister from the outside in the mid 70's as she was a massive Slade fan
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 20, 2020, 02:23:52 PM
Surprise surprise, not available for tomorrow. Fuck.
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Post by: Ads on January 20, 2020, 02:27:16 PM
That's annoying. Hopefully he and another will be like the number 9 bus ready for Leicester.
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Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2020, 03:11:40 PM
Madness we are going into another game (against a team around us in the league) without a striker.

Yes, it really suggs.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on January 20, 2020, 03:13:28 PM
When did Tom Fox come back and start running things? Ridiculous state of affairs, laughable.
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Post by: aev on January 20, 2020, 03:17:18 PM
Madness we are going into another game (against a team around us in the league) without a striker.

Yes, it really suggs.

Bravo
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Post by: olaftab on January 20, 2020, 03:20:01 PM
There's more chance of me capturing Kylie Minogue and Bella Hadid for a night in.
I am their agent Des so do you want me to quote rates as they are both available tonight?😉

Yes please!  I won't need all night.  20  mins should do it
The girls donít get out of the bed for less than 10K so if you pay 9 grand they are yours all night😆
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Post by: Villafirst on January 20, 2020, 03:23:48 PM
When did Tom Fox come back and start running things? Ridiculous state of affairs, laughable.

And is Lerner back in town? Agree, a simply ridiculous scenario. You could see this situation arising on 31st August last year.
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Post by: AV82EC on January 20, 2020, 03:38:33 PM
When did Tom Fox come back and start running things? Ridiculous state of affairs, laughable.

And is Lerner back in town? Agree, a simply ridiculous scenario. You could see this situation arising on 31st August last year.

Oh hark at Nostradamus....
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Post by: Hookeysmith on January 20, 2020, 03:39:19 PM
Annoying definitely

But I doubt its due to us sitting around doing bugger all. There must be so many elements in buying a player that ultimately depends on the selling club agreeing to the deal in the first place.
You hear of so many deals (not just with us) where almost everything is signed off only to fail at the final hurdle as there is either a problem with agent fees, players family or the buying club is gazumped on asking price.

Considering all that...ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ. Fecking hurry up Villa ;D
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Post by: chrisw1 on January 20, 2020, 03:39:29 PM
Not sure why this one wasnt done earlier tbh, with it being a release clause met for the transfer and not having to go through the process of having bids turned down etc then surely the meeting of the release clause part of the transfer should of been done as soon as the window opened. I can only presume that he wasnt our 1st choice.

I feel its bad planning to leave us so short in such an important area of the pitch going into such a critical period of fixtures .
Maybe he wasn't our first choice?

I agree it's been bad planning to be in this position, but in Jan you sometimes have to play a fine line between getting things done and compromising on your targets.
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Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 20, 2020, 03:43:33 PM
4 games without a striker in the prem  ..unbelievable
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 20, 2020, 03:43:34 PM
Noddy lived in Hartopp Rd on the Four Oak estate as I remembering visiting with my sister from the outside in the mid 70's as she was a massive Slade fan

Didn't Slade all live together in a big house?
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Post by: old man villa fan on January 20, 2020, 03:47:33 PM
4 games without a striker in the prem  ..unbelievable

Less than 3 weeks since our main forward was injured. Perhaps this altered our strategy for this transfer window.
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Post by: aev on January 20, 2020, 03:56:26 PM
Noddy lived in Hartopp Rd on the Four Oak estate as I remembering visiting with my sister from the outside in the mid 70's as she was a massive Slade fan

Didn't Slade all live together in a big house?

Was that Viz or Vic and Bob?
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Post by: cumbriavilla on January 20, 2020, 04:34:04 PM
Vic and Bob...

Next Door to Duran Duran.
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on January 20, 2020, 04:43:42 PM
4 games without a striker in the prem  ..unbelievable

Less than 3 weeks since our main forward was injured. Perhaps this altered our strategy for this transfer window.

We needed at least 1 striker urgently before Wesley got injured.
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Post by: old man villa fan on January 20, 2020, 05:02:20 PM
4 games without a striker in the prem  ..unbelievable

Less than 3 weeks since our main forward was injured. Perhaps this altered our strategy for this transfer window.

We needed at least 1 striker urgently before Wesley got injured.

What I meant was a change from somebody supplementing Wesley to somebody replacing him.
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Post by: villabear on January 20, 2020, 05:02:32 PM
Vic and Bob...

Next Door to Duran Duran.

Cup a soup!


(https://i.ibb.co/7SHqw1r/132-AEAA2-817-B-44-CD-8962-97-E5-BB5-EFCBE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7SHqw1r)
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Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2020, 05:28:26 PM
Vic and Bob...

Next Door to Duran Duran.

Cup a soup!


(https://i.ibb.co/7SHqw1r/132-AEAA2-817-B-44-CD-8962-97-E5-BB5-EFCBE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7SHqw1r)


UB40 mekkin that racket next door
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Post by: Big Ming on January 20, 2020, 06:09:37 PM
Noddy lived in Hartopp Rd on the Four Oak estate as I remembering visiting with my sister from the outside in the mid 70's as she was a massive Slade fan

Didn't Slade all live together in a big house?
Wasn't that The Beatles in "Help"?
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Post by: Louzie0 on January 20, 2020, 08:05:56 PM


And to send the thread even further off subject, Noddy Holder lived in Pilkington Avenue.

John Gidman lived in Pilkington Avenue

Noddy lived in Hartopp Rd on the Four Oak estate as I remembering visiting with my sister from the outside in the mid 70's as she was a massive Slade fan
[/quote]
Auntie Jean Morton from Tingha and Tucker lived in Pilkington Avenue.

Must have been a real Party house with the other two.
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Post by: Ger Regan on January 20, 2020, 08:14:04 PM
Official twitter account just posted a not-very-cryptic post about Samatta, must be done.
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Post by: andyh on January 20, 2020, 08:14:12 PM
Itís done I reckon.


Avfcofficial tweeting some cryptic stuff

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1219351939441471488?s=21
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Post by: LukeJames on January 20, 2020, 08:15:56 PM
Done then, good stuff.
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Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 20, 2020, 08:16:37 PM
Good news. He can tear Bournemouth a new one now.
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Post by: themossman on January 20, 2020, 08:17:45 PM
So too late for Watford then? (With apologies Iím sure itís been covered to death above but Iím late to this).
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Post by: dalians umbrella on January 20, 2020, 08:18:26 PM
Coming in with the biro now Dave!
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2020, 08:19:26 PM
Judging by the lack of crowd noise when it hits the net I assume we're signing someone from small heath.
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Post by: andyh on January 20, 2020, 08:20:03 PM
Confirmed by avfc.co.uk

https://twitter.com/garinwilliams/status/1219353932054568963?s=21
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Post by: berneboy on January 20, 2020, 08:21:00 PM
Official done 4.5 year contract
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2020, 08:21:58 PM
Quote
Aston Villa is delighted to announce the signing of Mbwana Samatta from KRC Genk.

The striker has put pen to paper on a four-and-half year deal subject to a work permit and international clearance being granted.

Samatta, 27, has scored ten goals for Genk in all competitions this season including a goal at Anfield against Liverpool in the Champions League.

Dean Smith said: "I'm really pleased we have managed to bring Mbwana to the club.

"He has scored goals throughout his career and I'm looking forward to working with him."

(https://www.avfc.co.uk/-/media/SamattaSigns2.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&hash=8ED9C549DFC83A3AD1AE47F1DB0C09D69CD9ECF6)
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Post by: andyh on January 20, 2020, 08:23:52 PM
https://twitter.com/tybracey/status/1219353653015982080?s=21
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Post by: Villan82 on January 20, 2020, 08:25:11 PM
Itís done I reckon.


Avfcofficial tweeting some cryptic stuff

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1219351939441471488?s=21

About time!!! Welcome! Please be good!
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Post by: PaulWinch again on January 20, 2020, 08:26:16 PM
Welcome Mbwana score loads of goals.
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 20, 2020, 08:30:43 PM
Subject work permit,  which can take time
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Post by: Vill I An on January 20, 2020, 08:31:06 PM
My prediction is he'll score at least5 goals and he can score  8+ goals and keep us up !
Hopefully gives us what we missing a natural scorer and with that pace and striker know how.
However we have to replace Kodjia and cover Wesley so need another please.
Get on board Samatta! Woo
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 20, 2020, 08:31:12 PM
Score another at Anfield and you will be on the way to cult status (as long as the Red Shite don't score 6)
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2020, 08:32:53 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/82541258_2980282038682512_1580237082310213632_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_eui2=AeGQ11bc1IPqPT-gHTVIRdLImSWHQDCE-e8RyCm8A3FDyIyNLWjwgFJaxNVVK-6RSFzjlcly0S9wBiRUR5kdWNpN8Yg-mQSfW1_RuV-L-0RxmQ&_nc_oc=AQnSG-4FbqPwM62H-WYAfQnxHj-8Y681lcffmDEwcOrZ0Dqib78qv9K65jIQqBONgrI&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&_nc_tp=1002&oh=11dfd8e38c8bf9c4eb990795fbe10a92&oe=5ED8CCEB)
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Post by: maidstonevillain on January 20, 2020, 08:34:52 PM


And to send the thread even further off subject, Noddy Holder lived in Pilkington Avenue.

John Gidman lived in Pilkington Avenue

Noddy lived in Hartopp Rd on the Four Oak estate as I remembering visiting with my sister from the outside in the mid 70's as she was a massive Slade fan
Auntie Jean Morton from Tingha and Tucker lived in Pilkington Avenue.

Must have been a real Party house with the other two.
[/quote]

Crikey. I forgot Auntie Jean lived there. Unforgivable for an ex-member of the Tingha and Tucker Club. Roy Wood I think used to live close by for a bit, because he used to drink in the Boldmere.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2020, 08:34:57 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/82541258_2980282038682512_1580237082310213632_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_eui2=AeGQ11bc1IPqPT-gHTVIRdLImSWHQDCE-e8RyCm8A3FDyIyNLWjwgFJaxNVVK-6RSFzjlcly0S9wBiRUR5kdWNpN8Yg-mQSfW1_RuV-L-0RxmQ&_nc_oc=AQnSG-4FbqPwM62H-WYAfQnxHj-8Y681lcffmDEwcOrZ0Dqib78qv9K65jIQqBONgrI&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&_nc_tp=1002&oh=11dfd8e38c8bf9c4eb990795fbe10a92&oe=5ED8CCEB)

Overall a solid stretch. Could be better on the left sleeve. 7/10 for me
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 20, 2020, 08:35:30 PM
Can't we stick "Dr" in front of his name to speed up the work permit process
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Post by: KRS on January 20, 2020, 08:36:34 PM
Is the work permit still outstanding? If not, can he play against Watford tomorrow?
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 20, 2020, 08:38:20 PM
Work permit and international clearance still outstanding, they are obviously confident of getting both, though.

Welcome Mbwana
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2020, 08:38:28 PM
Is the work permit still outstanding? If not, can he play against Watford tomorrow?

This should be a clue :P

Quote
The striker has put pen to paper on a four-and-half year deal subject to a work permit and international clearance being granted.
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Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2020, 08:47:41 PM
How do we pronounce his forename, is it Emwawna?
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 20, 2020, 08:48:58 PM
How do we pronounce his forename, is it Emwawna?

Frank.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2020, 08:50:20 PM
On match thread I shall mainly be calling him Scorchio.
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Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2020, 08:50:58 PM
How do we pronounce his forename, is it Emwawna?

Frank.

What.
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Post by: Newby on January 20, 2020, 08:51:09 PM
How do we pronounce his forename, is it Emwawna?

Frank.

brilliant.
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Post by: Villafirst on January 20, 2020, 08:52:59 PM
Hopefully not a problem with the Work Permit like Wesley? This could still take some time.
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Post by: Louzie0 on January 20, 2020, 08:57:26 PM


And to send the thread even further off subject, Noddy Holder lived in Pilkington Avenue.

John Gidman lived in Pilkington Avenue

Noddy lived in Hartopp Rd on the Four Oak estate as I remembering visiting with my sister from the outside in the mid 70's as she was a massive Slade fan
Auntie Jean Morton from Tingha and Tucker lived in Pilkington Avenue.

Must have been a real Party house with the other two.

Crikey. I forgot Auntie Jean lived there. Unforgivable for an ex-member of the Tingha and Tucker Club. Roy Wood I think used to live close by for a bit, because he used to drink in the Boldmere.
[/quote]

Do you still use the secret T&T sign, maidstonevillan?
*signs to another member of the Club*
Tricky when carrying a mug of coffee and the iPad.

Welcome Samatta!
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 20, 2020, 09:11:12 PM
Glad we've signed a striker. Whatever happened to 3 year contracts though?
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Post by: exigo on January 20, 2020, 09:24:30 PM
Glad we've signed a striker. Whatever happened to 3 year contracts though?

Helps FFP. Amortised over 4.5 years, means we've actually made a £1m profit for this season's books when compared against Kodjia's sale.
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Post by: paul_e on January 20, 2020, 09:26:39 PM
I'm pretty happy with this one, he's a very different type of striker to Wes and Davis so even if both get fit and are in form he'll have a part to play (so long as he settles, etc). Him with Jack and AEG behind in a 343 of sorts looks like the best idea for now. I still have issues with playing 3 centre backs but, Man City excluded, we look more stable in midfield with the extra defender able to step out and help them.
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Post by: richtheholtender on January 20, 2020, 09:29:25 PM
Why canít he play against Leicester in the cup?
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Post by: TonyD on January 20, 2020, 09:31:05 PM
Itís pronounced Bwana - you drop the M.

Please kick or head the ball into the goal.
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Post by: Legion on January 20, 2020, 09:31:11 PM
Why canít he play against Leicester in the cup?

I THINK he needed to be registered before the first leg.
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Post by: Legion on January 20, 2020, 09:31:40 PM
Is he potentially available tomorrow?
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Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2020, 09:35:31 PM
Is he potentially available tomorrow?

No, but I am. I finish at half four as well, could help put the nets up.
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Post by: LukeJames on January 20, 2020, 09:36:05 PM
Speaks good English.
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Post by: brontebilly on January 20, 2020, 09:37:48 PM
Great to get a striker in finally. Goes without saying but we definitely need another more experienced one at this level to follow.
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Post by: john2710 on January 20, 2020, 09:39:30 PM
I believe both him & Pepe will be able to play against Leicester, as long as the Work Permit etc.. is done by then.
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Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2020, 09:47:03 PM
Speaks good English.

Thank you, it's one of my bestest skillz.
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Post by: FrankyH on January 20, 2020, 09:48:26 PM
Why canít he play against Leicester in the cup?

I THINK he needed to be registered before the first leg.

Shite Arse Damn.
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Post by: Legion on January 20, 2020, 09:48:48 PM
I believe both him & Pepe will be able to play against Leicester, as long as the Work Permit etc.. is done by then.

I hope you are right and I am wrong.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 20, 2020, 09:55:42 PM


And to send the thread even further off subject, Noddy Holder lived in Pilkington Avenue.

John Gidman lived in Pilkington Avenue

Noddy lived in Hartopp Rd on the Four Oak estate as I remembering visiting with my sister from the outside in the mid 70's as she was a massive Slade fan
Auntie Jean Morton from Tingha and Tucker lived in Pilkington Avenue.

Must have been a real Party house with the other two.

Crikey. I forgot Auntie Jean lived there. Unforgivable for an ex-member of the Tingha and Tucker Club. Roy Wood I think used to live close by for a bit, because he used to drink in the Boldmere.
[/quote]

I was a member of the Tingha and Tucker Club too and knew where Aunie Jean Morton lived.

Dennis  Waterman and Rula Lenska used to live on Moor Hall Drive.

American born Joe Dolce has as far as I know never even visited Sutton Coldfield and now resides in Australia.

Oh, nearly forgot. Welcome Mbwana, please help us avoid relegation.
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Post by: frank black on January 20, 2020, 10:06:14 PM
Love looking at the official announcement comments on Facebook via translate..weíve added Tanzania as a fan base

ĎThat has been talk of everywhere,  even in such remote area I am people are  asking on the possibility of getting AV jersey just because of Samatta . Bring them you  will sell like nuts.Ď
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on January 20, 2020, 10:11:12 PM
Welcome Samatta! Please score some goals when you're allowed to play.
When is our next striker signing expected to be announced? Please don't say the Summer
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Post by: john2710 on January 20, 2020, 10:15:14 PM
I believe both him & Pepe will be able to play against Leicester, as long as the Work Permit etc.. is done by then.

I hope you are right and I am wrong.

A player is registered to play
6.2.2 in the case of a Premier League Club, one who would be registered and eligible to participate in a Premier League match commencing at the same time and on the same date as the Competition match in accordance with the Premier League Rules, or would have been but for the operation of Premier League Rule U.1.1 (Squad List).
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Post by: Legion on January 20, 2020, 10:16:17 PM
As clear as mud to me.
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Post by: dalians umbrella on January 20, 2020, 10:17:14 PM
What SAMATTA you, HEY! You gotta no defence!
He's gonna score again, HEY! Maybe with his head
Or maybe with his feet or Maybe with his chest
It doe-SAMATTA mate!


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Post by: Legion on January 20, 2020, 10:17:29 PM
Welcome Samatta! Please score some goals when you're allowed to play.
When is our next striker signing expected to be announced? Please don't say the Summer

Agreed. We still need at least one more unless Archer or Vassilev are going to be given an opportunity.
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Post by: mallo on January 20, 2020, 10:36:30 PM
Pleased we got a striker at last. He should bring some confidence and we might be dangerous at corners. Lets hope he gets a few early on and fires us to safety. I reckon heíll do ok - 15 games to go, Iíll take 5 goals if he plays regularly.
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Post by: sid1964 on January 21, 2020, 06:58:14 AM
Welcome, I hope that you are a great success and score lots of goals. Don't let us down and be shit!

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Post by: Risso on January 21, 2020, 07:06:00 AM
Welcome! Score goals!
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Post by: Clampy on January 21, 2020, 07:08:03 AM
Don't know a thing about him but let's hope he makes a difference. Welcome.
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Post by: frank black on January 21, 2020, 08:03:23 AM
Google translate at its best

ďThere is no word can express how I feel because of great pressure to see Samatta wearing a Villa I feel like he's inside of meď
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Post by: Bad English on January 21, 2020, 08:31:24 AM
What SAMATTA you, HEY! You gotta no defence!
He's gonna score again, HEY! Maybe with his head
Or maybe with his feet or Maybe with his chest
It doe-SAMATTA mate!
Please don't!
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Post by: SamTheMouse on January 21, 2020, 08:48:18 AM
Welcome to Villa, Mbwana.

Just put the round thing between the sticks on a regular basis, and we'll all get along famously.
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Post by: Villan For Life on January 21, 2020, 09:00:43 AM
Welcome to the Villa Mbwana, we are all desperate for you to be good!
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 21, 2020, 09:32:54 AM
Welcome Mbwana, score lots and keep us up. No pressure !
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Post by: Border villan on January 21, 2020, 10:16:44 AM
What SAMATTA you, HEY! You gotta no defence!
He's gonna score again, HEY! Maybe with his head
Or maybe with his feet or Maybe with his chest
It doe-SAMATTA mate!
Please don't!

Donít you mean ................

Shatuppa your face!
🤓🤓🤓
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 21, 2020, 10:22:55 AM
Welcome to the best club in the World Mbwana!
Score lots of goals, be successful and be very happy here!
UTV!
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Post by: Border villan on January 21, 2020, 10:28:07 AM
Mbwana, you are lucky enough to have been signed by the greatest club in the world, an honour most can only dream of. Go out and do yourself and us proud.
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Post by: sonyhill on January 21, 2020, 10:29:17 AM
Love the fact he's come in with his own song ready to go!  Don't get that often!  haha!
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Post by: LeeB on January 21, 2020, 10:45:19 AM
Love the fact he's come in with his own song ready to go!  Don't get that often!  haha!

It's awful, and I hope to be belting it out with relish many times before the end of the season after a truckload of goals.
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Post by: Brassneck on January 21, 2020, 10:56:00 AM
Sky reporting that he won't even be able to play against Leicester because he was registered too late for that as well.  Very disappointing.

Oh well, here's to a Rudy Gestede style of debut at Bournemouth.
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Post by: in exile on January 21, 2020, 10:58:45 AM
Welcome and good luck Ally. Do your nation and Villa proud
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 21, 2020, 11:05:49 AM
A couple of posters on this thread must be looking at lengthy bans. Some disgusting behaviour.
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 21, 2020, 11:22:31 AM
A couple of posters on this thread must be looking at lengthy bans. Some disgusting behaviour.

I'll fall on my sword.
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Post by: purpletrousers on January 21, 2020, 11:28:45 AM
Sky reporting that he won't even be able to play against Leicester because he was registered too late for that as well.  Very disappointing.

Oh well, here's to a Rudy Gestede style of debut at Bournemouth.

The Evil

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Sky Sports initially reported that Samatta cannot play in the match against Leicester - but will be available for the final if Villa progress.

The rules in the EFL's Carabao Cup handbook are not particularly clear - but it seems from a read-through that Samatta should be available for the second leg - should his work permit pass and his international clearance succeed.


It may be that the EFL have to make a ruling on the matter - and it would depend on whether the 'legs' of the semi final count as one match, or two.

If they count as two matches, Samatta should be cleared and ready to play as he was registered and ready before the second leg.

If the matches count as 'one' match - as they do in the FA Cup when there is a replay - Samatta would be unavailable to play as he was registered after the start of the first leg.

There is precedent though - according to Twitter, Oumar Niasse played for Hull in their second leg after signing after the first leg had finished.

The rules do not clear that up, and as it stands based on a reading of the rulebook, Samatta should line up against Leicester City - until the EFL state otherwise.
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Post by: Drummond on January 21, 2020, 11:31:27 AM
A colleague has just told me he was Sky Sports earlier and it was their Transfer Centre thingy. Apparently there was a pundit on their, when asked, who'd said she had never heard of him so had gone to do some research. 'I typed his name into Instagram and he has 300,000 followers'.

fuck me. *  **



*she didn't say that.

**it wasn't a request from me (unless you're Jennifer..... with a surname of Love Hewitt, Garner, Lawrence or Aniston)
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Post by: Brassneck on January 21, 2020, 11:35:20 AM
Sky reporting that he won't even be able to play against Leicester because he was registered too late for that as well.  Very disappointing.

Oh well, here's to a Rudy Gestede style of debut at Bournemouth.

The Evil

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Sky Sports initially reported that Samatta cannot play in the match against Leicester - but will be available for the final if Villa progress.

The rules in the EFL's Carabao Cup handbook are not particularly clear - but it seems from a read-through that Samatta should be available for the second leg - should his work permit pass and his international clearance succeed.


It may be that the EFL have to make a ruling on the matter - and it would depend on whether the 'legs' of the semi final count as one match, or two.

If they count as two matches, Samatta should be cleared and ready to play as he was registered and ready before the second leg.

If the matches count as 'one' match - as they do in the FA Cup when there is a replay - Samatta would be unavailable to play as he was registered after the start of the first leg.

There is precedent though - according to Twitter, Oumar Niasse played for Hull in their second leg after signing after the first leg had finished.

The rules do not clear that up, and as it stands based on a reading of the rulebook, Samatta should line up against Leicester City - until the EFL state otherwise.

Fingers crossed.

That game is a free hit to get him ready for the league run in.
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Post by: Border villan on January 21, 2020, 11:38:59 AM
A couple of posters on this thread must be looking at lengthy bans. Some disgusting behaviour.
I thought Iíd got away with that one.
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Post by: darren woolley on January 21, 2020, 11:50:41 AM
Welcome to Aston Villa Mbwana.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 21, 2020, 11:51:50 AM
A colleague has just told me he was Sky Sports earlier and it was their Transfer Centre thingy. Apparently there was a pundit on their, when asked, who'd said she had never heard of him so had gone to do some research. 'I typed his name into Instagram and he has 300,000 followers'.

fuck me. *  **



*she didn't say that.

**it wasn't a request from me (unless you're Jennifer..... with a surname of Love Hewitt, Garner, Lawrence or Aniston)

A trifle. Trez has over 4 million.
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Post by: LukeJames on January 21, 2020, 11:51:57 AM
I cant be the only one thats been humming his tune in their head all morning?
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 21, 2020, 12:03:20 PM
Welcome to Aston Villa, Mbwana. Score lots of goals. No pressure.
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Post by: West Derby Villan on January 21, 2020, 12:21:59 PM
Welcome Mbwana become the goal scoring hero we desperately need, please
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Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on January 21, 2020, 12:55:38 PM
Welcome Ally.  I trust you've seen the League table, so you know what you have to do!

Never mind Joe Dolce, calming dolphin sounds is what we all need to listen to until kick-off.
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Post by: BoVillan esq on January 21, 2020, 01:02:48 PM
Don't know a huge amount about him but goodness me I hope he can give us a leg up.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on January 21, 2020, 01:14:12 PM
A colleague has just told me he was Sky Sports earlier and it was their Transfer Centre thingy. Apparently there was a pundit on their, when asked, who'd said she had never heard of him so had gone to do some research. 'I typed his name into Instagram and he has 300,000 followers'.

fuck me. *  **



*she didn't say that.

**it wasn't a request from me (unless you're Jennifer..... with a surname of Love Hewitt, Garner, Lawrence or Aniston)

A trifle. Trez has over 4 million.

That is a huge amount for someone who has Nans hair - anyone know why he has so many?
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Post by: frank black on January 21, 2020, 01:27:02 PM
A colleague has just told me he was Sky Sports earlier and it was their Transfer Centre thingy. Apparently there was a pundit on their, when asked, who'd said she had never heard of him so had gone to do some research. 'I typed his name into Instagram and he has 300,000 followers'.

fuck me. *  **



*she didn't say that.

**it wasn't a request from me (unless you're Jennifer..... with a surname of Love Hewitt, Garner, Lawrence or Aniston)

A trifle. Trez has over 4 million.

That is a huge amount for someone who has Nans hair - anyone know why he has so many?

Guess itís genetic, my lads got really thick hair too.
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Post by: Des Little on January 21, 2020, 02:00:57 PM
And everyone applauded!
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Post by: simon ward 50 on January 21, 2020, 02:21:28 PM
Welcome Ally.  I trust you've seen the League table, so you know what you have to do!

Never mind Joe Dolce, calming dolphin sounds is what we all need to listen to until kick-off.

Why do we need to calm the dolphins?
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 21, 2020, 02:23:23 PM
Welcome Ally.  I trust you've seen the League table, so you know what you have to do!

Never mind Joe Dolce, calming dolphin sounds is what we all need to listen to until kick-off.

Why do we need to calm the dolphins?

They fucking hate puns.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 21, 2020, 02:26:07 PM
Welcome Ally.  I trust you've seen the League table, so you know what you have to do!

Never mind Joe Dolce, calming dolphin sounds is what we all need to listen to until kick-off.

Why do we need to calm the dolphins?

They fucking hate puns.
Only if you aim the puns at them on porpoise
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 21, 2020, 02:28:57 PM
Hopefully Dean will be able to get a tuna out of Samatta.
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Post by: LeeB on January 21, 2020, 02:51:43 PM
Hopefully Dean will be able to get a tuna out of Samatta.

As long as he finds the net he'll be ok. Otherwise we'll be trawling for another striker.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 21, 2020, 03:00:18 PM
We may be able to expedite the work permit process if it is established that his grand grandmother was from Cardiff ÖÖÖ.. in which case he may be eligible to play for ....Whales
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 21, 2020, 03:07:24 PM
It seems to me you're all floundering.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 21, 2020, 03:16:45 PM
I can just picture it now:
Mbwana enjoying the hospitality pre match and chatting with Purslow who asks:
"Mbwana, would you like another sandwich ?"
" Yes please, a prawn again, Christian"

From Cetacean to Crustacean in two posts eh ?
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Post by: Border villan on January 21, 2020, 03:28:05 PM
I sea a change in our fortunes, but canít fathom out why.
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Post by: Ads on January 21, 2020, 03:29:31 PM
May your carpets be always littered with lego. May your plugs always be upturned and your toes always stubbed.
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Post by: Drummond on January 21, 2020, 03:32:15 PM
There could be 20,000 leagues but we're in the best one. He'll either sink or swim, and I'm crossing my fin-gers for the latter.
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Post by: Border villan on January 21, 2020, 03:32:39 PM
I meant our for-tuna
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Post by: wince on January 21, 2020, 05:43:32 PM
May your carpets be always littered with lego. May your plugs always be upturned and your toes always stubbed.
Sounds like the sea anyway with all that plastic. Mullet over. (Apologies for the puns). The pun fears on here remind me of the bald headed brummies from Alan partridge. Any hope of seriousness and we are off
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Post by: CT Villan on January 21, 2020, 05:47:27 PM
You guys must really be piscing Dave off with these awful puns.
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Post by: Smirker on January 21, 2020, 05:49:17 PM
I've got a good feeling about this player.

He's going to be a resounding success and hit the ground running.

His goals will fire us to a safe midtable finish.

Welcome Samagoal.
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Post by: four fornicholl on January 21, 2020, 06:01:40 PM
You guys must really be piscing Dave off with these awful puns.
Shaddup you plaice.
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Post by: Pete3206 on January 21, 2020, 07:14:37 PM
Cod we please stop this crabby behaviour
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Post by: Holy Trinity on January 21, 2020, 10:09:31 PM
Smith confident he will face Leicester in the 2nd leg
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Post by: Rodders on January 21, 2020, 10:36:43 PM
Smith confident he will face Leicester in the 2nd leg

I don't get it?
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Post by: Holy Trinity on January 21, 2020, 10:44:29 PM
Smith confident he will face Leicester in the 2nd leg

I don't get it?

Smith said in the post match interview that he expects him to play in the 2nd leg. So this must mean his Visa and work permit are a formality
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Post by: Risso on January 21, 2020, 11:14:07 PM
He said this, which suggests he doesn't know when it will be:

"We want another [striker], and we're looking for another. Keinan Davis has just started back in training. Hopefully Samatta will start training for us as soon as possible once he gets his visa sorted."
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 21, 2020, 11:17:11 PM
Smith confident he will face Leicester in the 2nd leg

I don't get it?
That went over someone's head didn't it? :)
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Post by: Vill I An on January 21, 2020, 11:28:36 PM
Smith confident he will face Leicester in the 2nd leg

I don't get it?
That went over someone's head didn't it? :)

Yes Weselys , again.
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Post by: Holy Trinity on January 21, 2020, 11:30:05 PM
He said this, which suggests he doesn't know when it will be:

"We want another [striker], and we're looking for another. Keinan Davis has just started back in training. Hopefully Samatta will start training for us as soon as possible once he gets his visa sorted."


Your missing the end of the interview off their mate. He says he is confident he will play tuesday. I watched it on the sky sports app and I dont know if there version is longer than the one you saw.
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Post by: in exile on January 22, 2020, 01:19:58 PM

Yes Weselys , again.
FFS, will you never stop?
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Post by: Risso on January 22, 2020, 02:34:03 PM
He said this, which suggests he doesn't know when it will be:

"We want another [striker], and we're looking for another. Keinan Davis has just started back in training. Hopefully Samatta will start training for us as soon as possible once he gets his visa sorted."


Your missing the end of the interview off their mate. He says he is confident he will play tuesday. I watched it on the sky sports app and I dont know if there version is longer than the one you saw.


Fair enough, you're right that wasn't on the bit I saw.  Hopefully it gets sorted quickly anyway.
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Post by: Mister E on January 22, 2020, 04:45:45 PM
Yes Weselys , again.
Grammatically, it's inaccurate. Sentiment-wise, it's fucking tedious.
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Post by: frank black on January 22, 2020, 07:42:04 PM
https://twitter.com/salym/status/1220042931152789504?s=21

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Post by: TheMalandro on January 23, 2020, 11:40:18 AM
He's training, so must have work permit?
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Post by: mallo on January 23, 2020, 12:46:04 PM
Great news if he can play against Leicester. Will give him a game to get up to speed to play Bournemouth - what a game that will be.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 23, 2020, 02:37:13 PM
He's training, so must have work permit?

Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 23, 2020, 03:50:34 PM
He's training, so must have work permit?

Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.
Interesting question  ÖÖÖ. I suppose it is what is considered to be  "work" and if Bodymoor Health is a "workplace"  - I guess if he isn't being paid he isn't working.
My big concern is that we may be pinning all our hopes on the fella - we need someone else (more experienced in the Premier League ) to help him - it would be incredible if, in his first game, he helps get us to a Wembley final   
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Post by: Dave P on January 23, 2020, 06:00:55 PM
Isnít it international clearance weíre waiting for which is just a formality?
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 23, 2020, 06:08:24 PM
He's training, so must have work permit?

Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.

Thought it was the opposite. Didn't Luiz have to wait to train with us until we sorted out his work permit? I recall his personal trainer posting photos during the wait.
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Post by: Legion on January 23, 2020, 06:37:27 PM
Is he definitely eligible for the Leicester cup game?
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 23, 2020, 06:55:49 PM
He's training, so must have work permit?

Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.

Thought it was the opposite. Didn't Luiz have to wait to train with us until we sorted out his work permit? I recall his personal trainer posting photos during the wait.

Why would he? He trained in Manchester with City when he wasn't out on loan. Perhaps he just preferred a spell at home before his paperwork was processed for us. I can't think of any reason a player can't visit a training ground and take part in a session.
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Post by: john e on January 23, 2020, 11:42:07 PM

just score the goals to keep us up this season from a standing start in a different league with new teams mates

do well, no pressure
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Post by: robbo1874 on January 24, 2020, 07:42:20 AM
Heís got to have that song! Whatís a matter you, hey?
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 24, 2020, 10:13:00 AM
He's training, so must have work permit?


Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.


I was just considering that and came to the conclusion that the insurers would probably prohibit it.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 24, 2020, 10:27:41 AM
He's training, so must have work permit?

Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.

I'd be surprised, tbh. It's not like he's using the gym at the hotel he's visiting, he's carrying on his line of work at a place of work. It's work.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 24, 2020, 10:34:04 AM
He's training, so must have work permit?

Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.

I'd be surprised, tbh. It's not like he's using the gym at the hotel he's visiting, he's carrying on his line of work at a place of work. It's work.

Right, but by the same line of argument surely you can't register a player on payroll if he hasn't secured a work permit as he's not legally allowed to work in the country and he can't pay tax - and yet, are you going to tell me that Douglas Luiz (for instance) wasn't earning a wage while he was at Man City? There are ways around these things, I'd have thought you can declare individuals as "visitors" at a training ground without any legal or insurance wrangle.
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Post by: Risso on January 24, 2020, 10:36:29 AM
He's training, so must have work permit?

Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.

I'd be surprised, tbh. It's not like he's using the gym at the hotel he's visiting, he's carrying on his line of work at a place of work. It's work.

Right, but by the same line of argument surely you can't register a player on payroll if he hasn't secured a work permit as he's not legally allowed to work in the country and he can't pay tax - and yet, are you going to tell me that Douglas Luiz (for instance) wasn't earning a wage while he was at Man City? There are ways around these things, I'd have thought you can declare individuals as "visitors" at a training ground without any legal or insurance wrangle.

Trying to take the piss like that is the surest way of having the paperwork dragged out, or even refused.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 24, 2020, 10:40:14 AM
He's training, so must have work permit?

Pretty sure a player can train without a work permit.

I'd be surprised, tbh. It's not like he's using the gym at the hotel he's visiting, he's carrying on his line of work at a place of work. It's work.

Right, but by the same line of argument surely you can't register a player on payroll if he hasn't secured a work permit as he's not legally allowed to work in the country and he can't pay tax - and yet, are you going to tell me that Douglas Luiz (for instance) wasn't earning a wage while he was at Man City? There are ways around these things, I'd have thought you can declare individuals as "visitors" at a training ground without any legal or insurance wrangle.

How could they pay him? He wasn't allowed to work in this country.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 24, 2020, 10:40:53 AM
But if he's had his work permit stamped then you'd hope the club would have said something by now.

Didn't we get formal confirmation via OS (etc) when Wesley & Luiz both had their permits approved, after a period of waiting?

I'm happy to be wrong on this but as we've heard nothing from the club then you'd have to assume his work permit is still being processed.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 24, 2020, 10:57:40 AM
Maybe they're waiting on clarification from the Football League as to whether he's eligible for Tuesday before breaking the good/bad news.
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Post by: TelfordVilla on January 24, 2020, 10:58:58 AM
Just suppose a player we intend to sign popped into training and had a little kick about with the lads while his paperwork was 'catching up'. And then imagine the problems if said player broke his ankle. No insurance as he was not fully registered etc etc
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Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on January 24, 2020, 11:09:46 AM
Surely a player has an obligation to keep fit, even if a transfer is going through he should be covered by the selling club till that's taken over by the buying club!
How many times do you see that a foreign player, say, is injured and returns "home" for a while to recuperate and is seen training at a previous or local club? He must be covered by his parent club.
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Post by: LeeB on January 24, 2020, 11:18:47 AM
He was at the training ground about a week before his signing was announced from what my new inside source tells me, and was a very affable fellow.

Also, apparently Richard O'Kelly and John Terry don't like coriander.
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Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 24, 2020, 11:31:24 AM
He was at the training ground about a week before his signing was announced from what my new inside source tells me, and was a very affable fellow.

Also, apparently Richard O'Kelly and John Terry don't like coriander.
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what is the matter with them ?? :-\
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Post by: LeeB on January 24, 2020, 11:34:49 AM
God only knows mate, I blame the parents.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 24, 2020, 11:37:11 AM
He was at the training ground about a week before his signing was announced from what my new inside source tells me, and was a very affable fellow.

Also, apparently Richard O'Kelly and John Terry don't like coriander.

ITK!

Fully expect some clickbait articles to start appearing online about our management team's arguments over whether to sign a striker named Cory Anders
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 24, 2020, 11:40:57 AM
He was at the training ground about a week before his signing was announced from what my new inside source tells me, and was a very affable fellow.

Also, apparently Richard O'Kelly and John Terry don't like coriander.

ITK!

Fully expect some clickbait articles to start appearing online about our management team's arguments over whether to sign a striker named Cory Anders
Not another overseas signing Ö. we must be scouring the condiment
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Post by: Drummond on January 24, 2020, 11:42:56 AM
He was at the training ground about a week before his signing was announced from what my new inside source tells me, and was a very affable fellow.

Also, apparently Richard O'Kelly and John Terry don't like coriander.

I'm allergic to the stuff, but only if I touch it. I can eat it in food without a reaction. Quite odd.

Anyway, back on topic, if he hasn't got a work permit, he's not allowed to work, unless he has a temporary waiver whilst the permit is being processed, or, he is working for his other club. Training is working as far as a footballer is concerned.

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Post by: LeeB on January 24, 2020, 11:43:26 AM
He was at the training ground about a week before his signing was announced from what my new inside source tells me, and was a very affable fellow.

Also, apparently Richard O'Kelly and John Terry don't like coriander.

ITK!

Fully expect some clickbait articles to start appearing online about our management team's arguments over whether to sign a striker named Cory Anders

It's top drawer ITK, none of that transfer rumour horseshit.
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Post by: paul_e on January 24, 2020, 11:44:18 AM
Unattached players train with professional clubs all the time, in just the last couple of years we have had, that has been public knowledge, Collins and Samba doing that. That this is during a transfer makes it slightly different but I doubt there are any insurance related issues.
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Post by: Legion on January 24, 2020, 11:44:20 AM
Best ITK on here.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 24, 2020, 11:47:19 AM
Unattached players train with professional clubs all the time, in just the last couple of years we have had, that has been public knowledge, Collins and Samba doing that. That this is during a transfer makes it slightly different but I doubt there are any insurance related issues.

Neither of them required a work permit, though.
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Post by: paul_e on January 24, 2020, 12:40:08 PM
Unattached players train with professional clubs all the time, in just the last couple of years we have had, that has been public knowledge, Collins and Samba doing that. That this is during a transfer makes it slightly different but I doubt there are any insurance related issues.

Neither of them required a work permit, though.

Which would be a bigger issue than insurance, that's the thing I was dismissing.
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Post by: TelfordVilla on January 24, 2020, 12:59:19 PM
Now I'm more confused. So just before the paperwork is completed for your new 15million pound striker, he brakes a leg in one of your training sessions. Are you still going to pay 15m or send him back to his contracted club ? I know this is an extreme example, but this is why a player will not be training with his new club until all the paperwork is completed.
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Post by: andyh on January 24, 2020, 01:05:44 PM
I think Emiliano Sala is most extreme example of 'meeting up' with a new club before the paperwork is completed.   
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 24, 2020, 01:14:31 PM
I somehow can't imagine us - having finally signed a striker in the middle of striking crisis and a busy period of crucial games - saying "no sorry you can't go for a jog around Bodymoor with your new teammates, your work permit hasn't come through. Best head back to the hotel and sit there for a few days, we'll be in touch."
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Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on January 24, 2020, 01:20:37 PM
I somehow can't imagine us - having finally signed a striker in the middle of striking crisis and a busy period of crucial games - saying "no sorry you can't go for a jog around Bodymoor with your new teammates, your work permit hasn't come through. Best head back to the hotel and sit there for a few days, we'll be in touch."

Why canít you imagine that?

These are multi million pound businesses, not the kind of Sunday league kick abouts you or I might get involved in. I would think they are doing it all exactly as they should be and wouldnít risk even an ankle twist on a Ďjogí before all the iís are dotted and tís crossed.
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Post by: Risso on January 24, 2020, 01:54:51 PM
I somehow can't imagine us - having finally signed a striker in the middle of striking crisis and a busy period of crucial games - saying "no sorry you can't go for a jog around Bodymoor with your new teammates, your work permit hasn't come through. Best head back to the hotel and sit there for a few days, we'll be in touch."

Youíre just plain wrong on this. Best let it go.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 24, 2020, 02:15:56 PM
I somehow can't imagine us - having finally signed a striker in the middle of striking crisis and a busy period of crucial games - saying "no sorry you can't go for a jog around Bodymoor with your new teammates, your work permit hasn't come through. Best head back to the hotel and sit there for a few days, we'll be in touch."

Youíre just plain wrong on this. Best let it go.

Here's an image of Douglas Luiz - who could never get a work permit for Manchester City - playing football for Manchester City:

(https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/GOAL/e5/c0/douglas-luiz-manchester-city_1a5ny4olpvrsj1wnusjb42upjf.jpg?t=81813966&quality=60&w=1600)

But a lad can't have a run around Bodymoor unless he's got a work permit.
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Post by: LeeB on January 24, 2020, 02:31:52 PM
I somehow can't imagine us - having finally signed a striker in the middle of striking crisis and a busy period of crucial games - saying "no sorry you can't go for a jog around Bodymoor with your new teammates, your work permit hasn't come through. Best head back to the hotel and sit there for a few days, we'll be in touch."

Youíre just plain wrong on this. Best let it go.

Here's an image of Douglas Luiz - who could never get a work permit for Manchester City - playing football for Manchester City:

(https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/GOAL/e5/c0/douglas-luiz-manchester-city_1a5ny4olpvrsj1wnusjb42upjf.jpg?t=81813966&quality=60&w=1600)

But a lad can't have a run around Bodymoor unless he's got a work permit.

That game took place in the U.S.A.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 24, 2020, 02:37:38 PM
Dougy looks like he's trying to use Ribery's arm as a guitar.
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Post by: brian green on January 24, 2020, 03:00:23 PM
In recent times we have had the transfer of a goalkeeper blocked by a woman abusing her power to advantage her own club, we have been denied the services of a player because his front gates jammed and we lost a legally signed player because his tea was on the table.  Nothing about player movements surprises me any more.
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Post by: Risso on January 24, 2020, 10:48:46 PM

I somehow can't imagine us - having finally signed a striker in the middle of striking crisis and a busy period of crucial games - saying "no sorry you can't go for a jog around Bodymoor with your new teammates, your work permit hasn't come through. Best head back to the hotel and sit there for a few days, we'll be in touch."


Youíre just plain wrong on this. Best let it go.


Here's an image of Douglas Luiz - who could never get a work permit for Manchester City - playing football for Manchester City:


(https://images.daznservices.com/di/library/GOAL/e5/c0/douglas-luiz-manchester-city_1a5ny4olpvrsj1wnusjb42upjf.jpg?t=81813966&quality=60&w=1600)


But a lad can't have a run around Bodymoor unless he's got a work permit.


That game took place in the U.S.A.


Beat me to it.


"Sources say that Luiz was hugely impressive in training and friendlies against Borussia Dortmund and Bayern Munich on the preseason tour to the United States.
Guardiola had earmarked him to be part of his squad as he was short of options in the holding midfield role after top summer target Jorginho opted to join Chelsea.
But rules on work permits were changed in 2015 to ensure that only the most talented non-European Union players met strict criteria and he was not a full international, which did not help his case.
Guardiola and Brazil coach Tite even sent detailed videos to the UK Home Office explaining why Luiz would be important to his side but the application was turned down.
The City boss feels it was particularly tough for Luiz to not have the opportunity to train with his team-mates in Manchester and to have the chance to show whether he was good enough."
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 25, 2020, 01:12:33 PM
When a whole nation loves a player.

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1221056515336962053?s=21
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Post by: eamonn on January 25, 2020, 01:27:25 PM
The character Coriander in Coe's Brexit novel is a spoilt little bitch so I don't blame Terry nor O'Kelly for disliking her.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 25, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
The character Coriander in Coe's Brexit novel is a spoilt little bitch so I don't blame Terry nor O'Kelly for disliking her.

I've just finished that. Is Samatta anti-coriander? It can overpower other ingredients. He has a point.
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Post by: andyh on January 25, 2020, 04:41:40 PM
When a whole nation loves a player.

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1221056515336962053?s=21

I was just going to post the same thing TV.
I think they like him back home.

Looks like Traore might be a fan too, with him cheerleading !
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 25, 2020, 06:01:42 PM
The character Coriander in Coe's Brexit novel is a spoilt little bitch so I don't blame Terry nor O'Kelly for disliking her.

I've just finished that. Is Samatta anti-coriander? It can overpower other ingredients. He has a point.
I just hope he is a seasoned pro
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 25, 2020, 09:59:13 PM
All this stuff about work permits, coriander, Douglas Luiz is really getting off topic.
Can we get to Renee and Renata ?
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Post by: Damo70 on January 25, 2020, 10:17:45 PM
He seems very popular amongst his people. I hope we have signed a messiah and not just a very naughty boy.
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Post by: algy on January 26, 2020, 08:44:24 AM
When a whole nation loves a player.

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1221056515336962053?s=21

I was just going to post the same thing TV.
I think they like him back home.

Looks like Traore might be a fan too, with him cheerleading !
The club should really try to make the most of this. Have a wee pre-season tour of East Africa, force our way in to the collective subconscious of half a continent, come back with photos of Villa playing friendlies in front of 60,000 Villa-mad Tanzanians, at their national stadium. It'd look crazy-good - "the claret & blue continent" :)
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Post by: Mister E on January 26, 2020, 08:55:09 AM
When a whole nation loves a player.

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1221056515336962053?s=21

I was just going to post the same thing TV.
I think they like him back home.

Looks like Traore might be a fan too, with him cheerleading !
The club should really try to make the most of this. Have a wee pre-season tour of East Africa, force our way in to the collective subconscious of half a continent, come back with photos of Villa playing friendlies in front of 60,000 Villa-mad Tanzanians, at their national stadium. It'd look crazy-good - "the claret & blue continent" :)
... before going on to Zimbabwe for Nak's Horne crowd.
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on January 26, 2020, 09:22:08 AM
Looking forward to seeing him play.
His enthusiasm is only going to be a positive force on the side.
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 26, 2020, 10:17:33 AM
Also, apparently Richard O'Kelly and John Terry don't like coriander.

My mates lad has started working for the club. I asked him for some inside information and he said heíd ask and let me know. I had a text a few days later ĎThe really famous one who helps the manager, he doesnít like spicy foodí

Heís not w big football fan.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 26, 2020, 10:46:47 AM
Also, apparently Richard O'Kelly and John Terry don't like coriander.

My mates lad has started working for the club. I asked him for some inside information and he said heíd ask and let me know. I had a text a few days later ĎThe really famous one who helps the manager, he doesnít like spicy foodí

Heís not w big football fan.
No fear of a "Terry Delhi Belly" then
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Post by: Bad English on January 26, 2020, 11:03:45 AM
The club should really try to make the most of this. Have a wee pre-season tour of East Africa, force our way in to the collective subconscious of half a continent, come back with photos of Villa playing friendlies in front of 60,000 Villa-mad Tanzanians, at their national stadium. It'd look crazy-good - "the claret & blue continent" :)
If a load of Villa fans went along we could call it the 'Grumble in the Jungle'.
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Post by: Legion on January 26, 2020, 11:08:10 AM
Stands. Applauds. Sits back down.
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Post by: purpletrousers on January 26, 2020, 01:05:21 PM
The club should really try to make the most of this. Have a wee pre-season tour of East Africa, force our way in to the collective subconscious of half a continent, come back with photos of Villa playing friendlies in front of 60,000 Villa-mad Tanzanians, at their national stadium. It'd look crazy-good - "the claret & blue continent" :)
If a load of Villa fans went along we could call it the 'Grumble in the Jungle'.

We need to develop the links with SC Villa in Uganda next door too.
I did suggest some project work a few years back but then the Villa in the community stuff was limited to UK only.
Iím meeting their general manager at a match next month if I have my way on our trip itinerary - anyone got any Villa in the community links? (I know supporter Liasoon Lee Preece will pass on but just in case any more ITK)
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Post by: Bren'd on January 26, 2020, 02:43:44 PM
Over 10 years ago we sent over 100 H&V donated old Villa shirts out to Tanzania.  Thereís the seed right there.
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Post by: brian green on January 26, 2020, 03:07:25 PM
My younger son regularly takes suitcases full of donated Villa shirts to Havana.  Nothing come though the Cuban connection yet.  Perhaps we should start a Villa Boxing Club.  Or baseball.
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Post by: purpletrousers on January 26, 2020, 04:45:10 PM
Over 10 years ago we sent over 100 H&V donated old Villa shirts out to Tanzania.  Thereís the seed right there.

Aha! Thanks to the generosity of the parishioners here I took out about 30 odd to Uganda in 2008 . There was a televised - well we paid to get it onto the news - game at the National Mental Health Hospital resplendent in a wondrous mix of Villa all ages Home Vs Villa all ages away, with a heck of a lot of Taylors on the pitch.
My trip next month is a big family one but another work one and I'd be tempted to do it again. Also fantasising of a SCV/AVFC link up, The Emperor has struck me as someone you could imagine supporting positive mental health promotion through footy stuff.
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Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 26, 2020, 04:58:27 PM


Can anyone confirm he's actually received his work permit ?
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Post by: LeeB on January 26, 2020, 05:40:11 PM


Can anyone confirm he's actually received his work permit ?

The Home Office?
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Post by: Brassneck on January 26, 2020, 06:01:07 PM


Can anyone confirm he's actually received his work permit ?

Deano stated that heís available for Tuesday so whilst not confirmation, itís the next best thing.
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Post by: john e on January 26, 2020, 07:39:53 PM
my lad tells me heís alright because heís got a 83 finishing rating on Fifa which is all that matters to him when evaluating players

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Post by: Ads on January 26, 2020, 07:43:44 PM
my lad tells me heís alright because heís got a 83 finishing rating on Fifa which is all that matters to him when evaluating players



What's his pace and acceleration stats like though.
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Post by: Legion on January 26, 2020, 07:46:29 PM
Depends on how mad his Dad is.
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Post by: Newby on January 26, 2020, 08:03:06 PM
Dad holds the advantage as he can clear three stairs at a time!
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Post by: john e on January 26, 2020, 08:29:51 PM
my lad tells me heís alright because heís got a 83 finishing rating on Fifa which is all that matters to him when evaluating players



What's his pace and acceleration stats like though.

Overal 85 apparently not bad

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Post by: edgysatsuma89 on January 26, 2020, 11:05:17 PM
my lad tells me heís alright because heís got a 83 finishing rating on Fifa which is all that matters to him when evaluating players



What's his pace and acceleration stats like though.

Overal 85 apparently not bad

His overall stats are 79. Someone whose stats are 85 would have cost a lot of dough. His best stats are definitely in pace and acceleration though (acceleration 83, sprint speed 86).

I am not a virgin.
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Post by: john e on January 27, 2020, 07:31:25 AM
my lad tells me heís alright because heís got a 83 finishing rating on Fifa which is all that matters to him when evaluating players



What's his pace and acceleration stats like though.

Overal 85 apparently not bad

His overall stats are 79. Someone whose stats are 85 would have cost a lot of dough. His best stats are definitely in pace and acceleration though (acceleration 83, sprint speed 86).

I am not a virgin.

He asked about pace which is 85 overall so Iíve been told
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 27, 2020, 08:19:02 AM
Finishing 83, acceleration 83, sprint speed 86. What's dragging him down to 79?
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Post by: aj2k77 on January 27, 2020, 10:07:34 AM
Finishing 83, acceleration 83, sprint speed 86. What's dragging him down to 79?

First touch 1
Passing 1
Heading 1

Knowing our luck.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 27, 2020, 10:23:19 AM
Injury proneness 385.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 27, 2020, 10:25:35 AM
Spouse doesn't like Birmingham 466.
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Post by: Drummond on January 27, 2020, 10:25:56 AM
Scapegoatability - 79
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Post by: Risso on January 27, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
Needsafullpreseason - 76
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Post by: Bren'd on January 27, 2020, 11:44:19 AM
A cold Tuesday, night in February in Rotherham  40
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Post by: Axl Rose on January 27, 2020, 11:47:36 AM
Theresaplayerintheresomewhere 58
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Post by: aj2k77 on January 27, 2020, 12:12:08 PM
Barndooravoidance 89
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Post by: ChicagoLion on January 27, 2020, 12:19:30 PM
Whadyaexpectwithnoservice 102
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Post by: Tuscans on January 27, 2020, 12:46:05 PM
Toothness 32
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Post by: Pat Mustard on January 27, 2020, 01:06:11 PM
Car Reversing -500
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Post by: DrGonzo on January 27, 2020, 01:50:23 PM
Best mates with a Bosko 6mill
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Post by: big rons jeweller on January 27, 2020, 02:02:53 PM
Abilitytoopendrivegates 0
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Post by: baddowvillans on January 27, 2020, 02:16:19 PM
According to Avfc.com he IS available tomorrow which presumably means he will definitely take part at some point
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Post by: brian green on January 27, 2020, 02:50:01 PM
Hitting cow's arse with banjo 66.6 recurring.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 27, 2020, 02:52:34 PM
Good with his head 69
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Post by: spartacuss on January 27, 2020, 03:23:22 PM
LifetheUniverseandEverything:42
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Post by: Des Little on January 27, 2020, 10:40:03 PM
Great in training - 90
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Post by: edgysatsuma89 on January 27, 2020, 11:28:57 PM
Finishing 83, acceleration 83, sprint speed 86. What's dragging him down to 79?

Well it takes in to account lots of stats, those ones you mentioned are his higher ones. For instance long shots if I remember correctly are 69 so he's less likely to be whacking them in from distance.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 27, 2020, 11:49:09 PM
Is that, doesn't like to have a pop from distance, or, when he does it's likely to trouble anyone but the goalkeeper?
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Post by: Ads on January 27, 2020, 11:50:49 PM
The latter likely influences the former.
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Post by: edgysatsuma89 on January 27, 2020, 11:57:48 PM
Is that, doesn't like to have a pop from distance, or, when he does it's likely to trouble anyone but the goalkeeper?

What Ads said, I imagine. For a striker though that stat isn't that relevant, it's more for your midfielders.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 28, 2020, 12:00:53 AM
Didn't put Tonev off.
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Post by: adrenachrome on January 28, 2020, 12:17:37 AM
Long Shot Kick de Bucket.

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Post by: edgysatsuma89 on January 28, 2020, 01:30:22 PM
Didn't put Tonev off.

I did enjoy laughing knowing what was about to happen. I did the same when Cuellar was about to pass and he'd put about 300% too much power on a 5 yard pass.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on January 28, 2020, 02:20:18 PM
What's the betting he won't start tonight, cue a meltdown.
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Post by: olaftab on January 28, 2020, 03:20:17 PM
Apparently 4 million fans in Dar Es Salaam and other Towns in Tanzania watching  us tonight.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on January 28, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Apparently 4 million fans in Dar Es Salaam and other Towns in Tanzania watching  us tonight.

How many won't be bothering because we'll only lose in the final?
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 28, 2020, 03:40:44 PM
What's the betting he won't start tonight, cue a meltdown.
or , ÖÖ.he plays and is shit :) , cue even bigger meltdown    (only joking kids ;))
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Post by: Drummond on January 28, 2020, 04:20:42 PM
Well I'm hoping for at least a brace or he can go back to Genk.
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Post by: manic-road on January 28, 2020, 04:37:04 PM
Apparently 4 million fans in Dar Es Salaam and other Towns in Tanzania watching  us tonight.

That's right, we might not know much about Samatta but in his homeland this is absolutely huge. I was listening to a reporter from Cloud FM in Tanzania who has flown over to watch the game and approx. 4 million are out on the streets watching this game tonight, he also said that fans in Tanzania normally support 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Man U Arsenal or Chelsea but now they are all Villa fans.

He is by far the biggest name ever in Tanzanian football, hope I can say later that I was there when he opened his goal tally at Villa Park tonight.



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Post by: manic-road on January 28, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
Samatta in the Tanzanian national press, a nation rejoices at his move to Villa.

https://www.dailynews.co.tz/news/2020-01-215e273c20ca497.aspx even the Tanzanian government are pleased with his move.
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Post by: QuintonVilla on January 28, 2020, 05:10:31 PM
Sama Samagoal Samagoal!

He's going to score tonight and become an instant hero
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 28, 2020, 05:21:44 PM
Haina kufeli!!!
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Post by: Risso on January 28, 2020, 07:27:59 PM
Well I'm hoping for at least a brace or he can go back to Genk.

A hattrick or he can join Hogan at Blues!
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Post by: Risso on January 28, 2020, 07:29:48 PM
He's just blasted one past Sarkic in the warm up, go on son!
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 28, 2020, 07:37:23 PM
Haina kufeli!!!
What a wonderful phrase ..........;)
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Post by: OzVilla on January 28, 2020, 09:12:49 PM
Samatta  looked every inch what he is, a young, raw, willing striker who has never played at this level before. It wonít happen overnight. Had 2 chances and didnít connect with either. Heís not going to be our new Darren Bent yet.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 28, 2020, 09:13:38 PM
Samatta  looked every inch what he is, a young, raw, willing striker who has never played at this level before. It wonít happen overnight. Had 2 chances and didnít connect with either. Heís not going to be our new Darren Bent yet.

He's 27.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on January 28, 2020, 09:40:17 PM
Looks promising. Good movement.
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Post by: Risso on January 28, 2020, 09:49:30 PM
I've seen worse debuts.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 28, 2020, 09:57:26 PM
Got in the right position twice but didnít make the right connection, a few decent touches here and there and pretty quiet on the whole so hard to judge even though you shouldnít really anyway for a players first game in a new league.
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Post by: paul_e on January 28, 2020, 10:03:43 PM
Those 2 chances were, for me, the sort that a player who's playing regularly puts away but a guy who's playing for the first time in a month misses. What they did show that was good movement and awareness, whatever else happens I think he'll get plenty of chances to score, hopefully he starts taking them soon, a couple in a big win over Bournemouth would be huge and get us looking up instead of down.
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Post by: Ian J on January 28, 2020, 10:09:06 PM
Definitely Paul, heís got himself into position, a bit more sharpness and heíll hopefully bury them.
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Post by: old man villa fan on January 28, 2020, 10:13:10 PM
Thought he defended well from the front.  When the ball was played forward to him, he made challenges when he wasn't going to win the ball but put the defender off so that we were able to pick up the second ball.
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Post by: SaddVillan on January 28, 2020, 10:19:19 PM
Good debut by a player who hasn't played for a few weeks.
Didn't convert his 2 opportunities, but that will come with time. Gave the impression that he knows how to play up front - good control and lay offs, match aware and took up good positions and made some strong runs off the ball creating space for others.

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Post by: Villafirst on January 28, 2020, 10:36:56 PM
It'll take a few games to get match fit. Pity the Belgian League has had a break recently.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 28, 2020, 10:40:06 PM
It does have to be said though that it was a dreadful miss.  He didn't get anything on it at all.
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Post by: themossman on January 28, 2020, 10:40:28 PM
He looked like heíd just got off the plane, but he slap mugged like a proper striker. Settled down and got into decent positions. Unlucky not to score on his debut
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 28, 2020, 10:42:26 PM
It'll take a few games to get match fit. Pity the Belgian League has had a break recently.

He's fucked then as we go on our break after Saturday.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 28, 2020, 10:46:05 PM
Samatta effect https://twitter.com/phd_manara/status/1222283707123490818
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Post by: SoccerHQ on January 28, 2020, 10:47:45 PM
Hopefully he's o.k for Saturday.

I was happy with what I saw. Much more experienced and idea of how to play the lone striker role compared to Wes who was very much a work in progress.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 28, 2020, 10:51:35 PM
Samatta fans watching the game

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPZylTtX0AkEBCf?format=jpg&name=900x900)

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Post by: Risso on January 28, 2020, 11:14:52 PM
Samatta's head is the same shape as The Terminator's in the first film when Arnie's face is stripped away.

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Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 28, 2020, 11:42:58 PM
Samatta fans watching the game

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPZylTtX0AkEBCf?format=jpg&name=900x900)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPZxYKkXkAQtkAd?format=jpg&name=medium)

That is absolutely fucking insane. Genuinely can't wait to see the scenes there when he scores his first goal hat-trick for us on Saturday. I hope all our games are televised in Tanzania!
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Post by: Somniloquism on January 29, 2020, 12:56:21 AM
It does have to be said though that it was a dreadful miss.  He didn't get anything on it at all.

Looks like he hadn't expected the specific bounce plus defender being in the way meant he lost track. His boot was going for a different flight on the highlights.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 29, 2020, 04:52:58 AM
He lacked sharpness. He could and maybe even should have scored twice. Once for sure. But his movement was good for being his first game for the club in what was a massive event. Heíll be on the end of our crosses as he gets up to speed.
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Post by: mr underhill on January 29, 2020, 07:44:30 AM
Agreed - thought he did well and got into some good positions - match fit and the through ball from Jack would have been converted.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on January 29, 2020, 08:08:59 AM
Decent enough debut, no absolute howlers and we didn't resort to hoofing it up front to him. Could have easily been a scoring debut but I'm sure based on what we saw last night the chances will come. He must have been absolutely overwhelmed and thinking we're all crazy!
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Post by: manic-road on January 29, 2020, 08:35:59 AM
I thought he was OK last night, it was good to have a forward as an outlet for the defence/midfielders.
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Post by: UK Redsox on January 29, 2020, 08:39:46 AM
Samatta fans watching the game

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Isn't that Trump's inauguration ?
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Post by: chrisw1 on January 29, 2020, 08:47:28 AM
The odd nice touch in the first half, but most promisingly he was making clever runs and getting into good positions all night.

The miss was horrendous though and I hope it doesn't knock his confidence.  He looked deflated after that.
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Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on January 29, 2020, 08:52:44 AM
People saying he had 2 opportunities to score, obviously the one in the second half from Jacks right wing cross but cannot remember another?
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 29, 2020, 08:54:09 AM
The odd nice touch in the first half, but most promisingly he was making clever runs and getting into good positions all night.

The miss was horrendous though and I hope it doesn't knock his confidence.  He looked deflated after that.

I think he'll be fine.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on January 29, 2020, 09:11:29 AM
People saying he had 2 opportunities to score, obviously the one in the second half from Jacks right wing cross but cannot remember another?

One in the first half the ball looked like it just got stuck under his boot, mis-timed/mis-judged the bounce. A half chance at best.
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Post by: itmustbe_it is! on January 29, 2020, 09:34:57 AM
Samatta fans watching the game

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPZylTtX0AkEBCf?format=jpg&name=900x900)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPZxYKkXkAQtkAd?format=jpg&name=medium)

That is absolutely fucking insane. Genuinely can't wait to see the scenes there when he scores his first goal hat-trick for us on Saturday. I hope all our games are televised in Tanzania!

Especially considering the game kicked off at 10.45 pm for them
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Post by: Hookeysmith on January 29, 2020, 09:43:08 AM
I thought he gave Soyunchu (sp) a torrid time and never let him have time on the ball.

He made some clever runs, including into the positions to make the misses

I think he is going to be decent for us
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Post by: Ger Regan on January 29, 2020, 09:49:09 AM
My only issue with him last night was that I thought he was dropping too deep when we were out of possession, which could well have been under instruction. Would have liked to have seen him put the keeper under more pressure as the odd time we did it seemed to work
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Post by: AV82EC on January 29, 2020, 09:49:48 AM
Always difficult to tell on TV whatís going on with the striker but you sensed the Leicester centre backs werenít comfortable at all, it bought a different dimension to our play.
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Post by: sonyhill on January 29, 2020, 09:55:10 AM
Thought he had a pretty solid debut tbf.  With a bit of fitness under his belt I think he'll do well and score a few goals.
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Post by: Villan For Life on January 29, 2020, 09:57:58 AM
I thought as debuts go he did OK particularly given the high profile nature of the match. With a bit more match fitness I think we may well have uncovered a good one.
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Post by: frank black on January 29, 2020, 10:00:26 AM
My only issue with him last night was that I thought he was dropping too deep when we were out of possession, which could well have been under instruction. Would have liked to have seen him put the keeper under more pressure as the odd time we did it seemed to work

That was the tactics, to allow their center backs the ball and the time. Fill the midfield and stop them coming through the middle.
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Post by: walsall villain on January 29, 2020, 10:02:21 AM
People saying he had 2 opportunities to score, obviously the one in the second half from Jacks right wing cross but cannot remember another?
First half. Pass towards near post, it was perhaps slightly behind him and it sort of got stuck under his feet.
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Post by: Mossie Hennebry on January 29, 2020, 10:07:25 AM
I'd love to know what he made of it all. The atmosphere, the noise, the last minute goal, the pitch invasion. It must have been an incredible night for him.
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Post by: Big Ming on January 29, 2020, 11:56:17 AM
Gave him the benefit of the doubt on the miss from Jack's peach of a pass.

Think he has temporarily unsighted by the defender just as the ball arrived.

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Post by: Hookeysmith on January 29, 2020, 11:59:59 AM
Mate sent me a picture that is doing the rounds of him having a meal in the Kabbabish in Sutton last night

Fair play to him
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Post by: Bren'd on January 29, 2020, 12:08:38 PM
Gave him the benefit of the doubt on the miss from Jack's peach of a pass.

Think he has temporarily unsighted by the defender just as the ball arrived.


I thought that too.  It's a shame as the faintest of contacts would have resulted in a goal.  Overall I thought it was a decent debut. 
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Post by: Proposition Joe on January 29, 2020, 12:33:00 PM
Gave him the benefit of the doubt on the miss from Jack's peach of a pass.

Think he has temporarily unsighted by the defender just as the ball arrived.

I think so too, I think he was surprised by the ball.

Also, I think one of their players gave him a kick just before he went off, and he looked to be moving a bit more gingerly after that. I think that coupled with his obvious disappointment at missing the sitter meant that it was the right decision of Smith to bring Davis on.

Davis also played well. I'd also love to see him be fit enough to start a few consecutive games.
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Post by: darren woolley on January 29, 2020, 12:42:34 PM
He had a good debut in my opinion I like the look of him.
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Post by: Drummond on January 29, 2020, 12:53:18 PM
I don't think the chance was a sitter. I do think it was an opportunity but not that easy.
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Post by: boozey182 on January 29, 2020, 01:40:18 PM
It might be my memory playing tricks, but didn't he do really well in the build up to the first goal?  I seem to remember him battling for a long ball and getting it to Douglas, who then released Jack. Might be getting confused though.

But that's the sort of thing I want to see from our strikers; if you're not scoring, at least be a nuisance, don't let the defence relax. We have players that can take advantage of loose balls, so just force the mistakes.

I think he's going to be absolutely fine, and with Keinan back as well and looking dangerous, we all of a sudden have a proper strike force!
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Post by: West Derby Villan on January 29, 2020, 01:52:53 PM
Thought he had a decent debut and fitted well into the team and setup, especially with the amount of time he's been here. Will get fitter and better, match by match, and looks like he will suit us just fine.
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Post by: paul_e on January 29, 2020, 03:04:40 PM
My only issue with him last night was that I thought he was dropping too deep when we were out of possession, which could well have been under instruction. Would have liked to have seen him put the keeper under more pressure as the odd time we did it seemed to work

That was the tactics, to allow their center backs the ball and the time. Fill the midfield and stop them coming through the middle.

and then if they turned back or passed sideways Jack, Ally and AEG all closed as a unit and took  away all the space, which led to a few chances. I suspect it's the sort of thing Smith means when he spoke of setting traps.
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Post by: mr underhill on January 29, 2020, 03:32:45 PM
From my seat it looked easier to score, but watching the footage from a different angle, he was further from the ball than i originally thought. On the whole I think he looked good.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on January 29, 2020, 05:39:54 PM
I thought he looked ok, has a bit of pace aswell, he tired and I was glad to see Smith replace him with Davis.
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Post by: themossman on January 29, 2020, 05:42:44 PM
Mainly, he just looked like a proper striker. The 'miss' as said above wasn't as clear cut as it initially  looked and it was good to see him attacking the space. I don't think we've had that nearly enough off any of our strikers, or stand in strikers, this season.
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Post by: darren woolley on January 30, 2020, 03:52:06 PM
I also thought he looked good I think he will do well for us.
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Post by: Bad English on January 30, 2020, 06:46:06 PM
Haina kufeli!!!
I think Percy reviewed her on the Birmingham Press website.
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Post by: Demitri_C on February 01, 2020, 05:12:49 PM
Great goal by hkm. Suffered by a lack of quality. Had ti drop deep because we didnt have anyone creating anything
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Post by: PaulWinch again on February 01, 2020, 05:13:36 PM
Well done Sama, only positive.
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Post by: Risso on February 01, 2020, 05:14:02 PM
Pleased for him, hopefully the first of lots.
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Post by: Ads on February 01, 2020, 05:29:06 PM
I think we need to learn the right ball for him, as we were too keen in the first half to pump the ball high rather than into the channel.

Good reactions in the box. First of many I hope.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 01, 2020, 05:30:35 PM
He is much better than Wesley imo even if that isn't a particularly high bar. Knows how to play the lone striker role anyway.

We really needed this signing in August. Poor from the recruitment side.
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Post by: aj2k77 on February 01, 2020, 07:28:50 PM
Extremely poor from recruitment if as is suggested he was on the radar in the summer but they decided Wesley was the better bet as a lone striker....  it beggars belief.
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Post by: Villafirst on February 01, 2020, 07:38:13 PM
Extremely poor from recruitment if as is suggested he was on the radar in the summer but they decided Wesley was the better bet as a lone striker....  it beggars belief.

Stupid recruitment in the summer with the striker options. Same can be said for sending Chessie to Stoke and reducing the defensive cover options in case of injuries.
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Post by: Clampy on February 02, 2020, 09:29:19 AM
That's two he could have had already. Fingers crossed that we've found a good un.
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Post by: Clampy on February 02, 2020, 09:33:54 AM
Extremely poor from recruitment if as is suggested he was on the radar in the summer but they decided Wesley was the better bet as a lone striker....  it beggars belief.

Stupid recruitment in the summer with the striker options. Same can be said for sending Chessie to Stoke and reducing the defensive cover options in case of injuries.

The only thing id say to that is at least he was on our radar and no-one else has gone in for him so its good scouting if it comes off. As for Chester, I was sorry to see him go because players like that round the dressing room are valuable. We've got Engels back now so Chester would have not made the bench and he needed game time. He may have wanted to go out on loan with the Euro's coming up. I think we owed him that.
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Post by: aj2k77 on February 02, 2020, 11:41:34 AM
What I liked was when Grealish picked the ball up for the chance that went through the keepers legs, as soon as Jack got the ball Samatta absolutely bust a gut to pull away and find a position in the penalty area for a cross. Wesley would have stood there staring or limbered casually to the edge of the box.

He is hungry for goals and picks up the right positions to find them.
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Post by: Ads on February 02, 2020, 12:12:29 PM
He does have good movement. He also has tiny shorts. It was like Gary Shaw had picked his and Jack's sizes.

But as he gets sharper, he could prove to be the difference between us getting 12-15 points to stay up.
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Post by: RamboandBruno on February 02, 2020, 01:16:11 PM
Thought that whilst he missed a couple of sitters vrs Leicester midweek, he made some great runs across the box, the sort of runs big wes didnít seem to understand how to make. Hopefully the goal yesterday will give him confidence and we can get 6 or 7 goals out of him, could make all the difference
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Post by: darren woolley on February 02, 2020, 06:53:59 PM
I'm really pleased he's got his first goal for us I like the look of him.
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Post by: Luke8 on February 02, 2020, 07:45:24 PM
Thought that whilst he missed a couple of sitters vrs Leicester midweek, he made some great runs across the box, the sort of runs big wes didnít seem to understand how to make. Hopefully the goal yesterday will give him confidence and we can get 6 or 7 goals out of him, could make all the difference

I get what youíre saying, and donít disagree with the general point, but 6/7 goals would be a very impressive return given it means basically a goal every other game.
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Post by: Somniloquism on February 03, 2020, 01:10:07 AM
Thought that whilst he missed a couple of sitters vrs Leicester midweek, he made some great runs across the box, the sort of runs big wes didnít seem to understand how to make. Hopefully the goal yesterday will give him confidence and we can get 6 or 7 goals out of him, could make all the difference

I get what youíre saying, and donít disagree with the general point, but 6/7 goals would be a very impressive return given it means basically a goal every other game.

As long as they aren't all consolations like Saturday's one.
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Post by: kieron on February 03, 2020, 08:55:26 AM
https://twitter.com/Samagoal77_/status/1224215281519775745

Google Translate:

"Football fans in Tanzania know that you love your boy and that I want to make my new team vzr ktk, but I beg you to stop making derogatory or negative comments on ac / teams or players, personally I am not happy."
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Post by: chrisw1 on February 03, 2020, 09:11:57 AM
What I liked was when Grealish picked the ball up for the chance that went through the keepers legs, as soon as Jack got the ball Samatta absolutely bust a gut to pull away and find a position in the penalty area for a cross. Wesley would have stood there staring or limbered casually to the edge of the box.

He is hungry for goals and picks up the right positions to find them.
I'm not a fan of Wesley, but it's a bit unfair predicting what he 'may' have done when he's hobbling about on crutches and not able to do anything to prove you wrong.
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Post by: Risso on February 03, 2020, 10:31:53 AM
He just looks a lot more mobile and hungry to get into good positions than Wesley did.
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Post by: Drummond on February 03, 2020, 11:15:38 AM
Extremely poor from recruitment if as is suggested he was on the radar in the summer but they decided Wesley was the better bet as a lone striker....  it beggars belief.

We've signed him.

We don't know what the position was in the summer. Maybe he wasn't available but is now, maybe he was too expensive but now we're forced to cover for Wesley. Maybe lots of different things. Maybe he was on the radar, maybe he wasn't.

But criticising the club for not signing a player, that none of us had heard of, earlier is daft.
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 03, 2020, 11:21:53 AM
He's got pace, he's instinctive, he seems to find the right space to play in and he's got a good football brain. I hope the rest of the team (esp. Jack, Anwar and perhaps Doug)can develop good on-field relationships with him quickly because if they play the right through balls, he will find them and hurt the opposition.
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Post by: Demitri_C on February 03, 2020, 11:31:04 AM
He seems like a utter pest. I really like the look of him. He looks great in the air with his head as well something we have lacked from a striker for years. Also like that he has a exceptional first touch.

I must admit he looks a lot better than wesley. But i think play wes behind samatta and we have a good partnership in the making next ywar
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Post by: aj2k77 on February 03, 2020, 12:08:44 PM
What I liked was when Grealish picked the ball up for the chance that went through the keepers legs, as soon as Jack got the ball Samatta absolutely bust a gut to pull away and find a position in the penalty area for a cross. Wesley would have stood there staring or limbered casually to the edge of the box.

He is hungry for goals and picks up the right positions to find them.
I'm not a fan of Wesley, but it's a bit unfair predicting what he 'may' have done when he's hobbling about on crutches and not able to do anything to prove you wrong.

He had the previous 20+ games to prove me wrong, he's looked shite.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 03, 2020, 12:11:45 PM
Wesley will rip the championship up next season.
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Post by: mallo on February 03, 2020, 01:00:01 PM
Wesley will rip the championship up next season.
Who we selling him to? Winky thing.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 03, 2020, 01:50:47 PM
What's this about Mbwana posting on social media that he's not happy with his Tanzanian fans abusing the players and the club and imploring them to stop?
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Post by: PeterWithe on February 03, 2020, 01:55:28 PM
Some of the new Tanzanian supporters on the FB pages are idiots, criticising Jack for not passing to him enough.

My Tanzanian is a little rusty so I can t say if he has asked them to stop.
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Post by: Legion on February 03, 2020, 01:57:44 PM
Here: https://twitter.com/Samagoal77_/status/1224215281519775745
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 03, 2020, 02:05:08 PM
And if it won't translate for you, or your Swahili isn't what it was, goal.com (https://www.goal.com/en-kw/news/please-stop-abusing-aston-villa-my-teammates-samatta/exumasyckmku1aj4iuso1sdjf) have it.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 03, 2020, 02:11:14 PM
They should sign up here, they would fit right in.
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Post by: LukeJames on February 03, 2020, 08:35:34 PM
They think they have a god given right to criticise players from less skilled vehicle reversing continents, really pisses me off!

Any Samatta gets himself in good positions, could easily have 3 in 2 games, thats very encouraging.

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Post by: brian green on February 03, 2020, 08:54:40 PM
If you have not seen the ACR or know somebody who has seen the ACR or nearly saw the ACR or thought you nearly saw the ACR the rules of this forum are very clear. You cannot refer to the ACR.
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Post by: Bad English on February 04, 2020, 08:00:26 AM
I just hope Samatta is an African Au Revoir Reverser.
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Post by: eamonn on February 04, 2020, 09:37:17 PM
Just watched his post-match interview on Pravda. Very calm, considered responses. Him and Marvelous have such dreamy voices. If Dave ever does audiobooks of his catalogue of Villa books, could he get these two to narrate them rather than some Brummie (no offence)?
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Post by: Dr_Pangloss on February 09, 2020, 11:55:47 AM
Jury's out but I'm fairly impressed by what I've seen so far. His work outside of the box is pretty sharp/ no nonsense, appears to have decent pace and the best thing is that he makes good runs/ gets into good positions pretty consistently. Even against Leicester where he missed two very good chances he demonstrated a good understanding of how to get into space in the box, something that Wesley was comically bad at at times.
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Post by: Goldie.7 on February 16, 2020, 05:01:41 PM
Man of the Match today. Excellent hold-up play, vision, strength and distribution. If only our team didn't revolve around one player hogging the ball, he probably would have got on the scoresheet again.

It's going to be a real sickener when we lose him in the summer.
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Post by: KRS on February 16, 2020, 05:06:01 PM
Why would we lose Samatta in the summer regardless of whether we stay up or get relegated?
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on February 16, 2020, 06:54:32 PM
He's had a good start, quite pleased so far.
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Post by: baddowvillans on February 16, 2020, 07:17:39 PM
I thought he was very impressive today.  Always made the defenders work and earned the goal through that.  He makes runs and attacks the ball in a way Wesley just never did as well as holding the ball up well.  You feel as though if he keeps doing that he will get goals in this league.
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Post by: Demitri_C on February 16, 2020, 08:23:38 PM
Samatta looks bloody good. No matter qhat division we are in next year keep him and get rid of wesley.

I think he will score shed loads in the championship he looks like a menacing pest
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Post by: Smirker on February 16, 2020, 08:26:15 PM
Looks very good. Intelligent player and great work ethic. Provide the chances and he will score.
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Post by: BoVillan esq on February 16, 2020, 08:28:41 PM
We have a good player here, seems to have good moves, awareness, looks like a very tidy signing to me.
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Post by: Ads on February 16, 2020, 09:55:55 PM
Samatta looks bloody good. No matter qhat division we are in next year keep him and get rid of wesley.

I think he will score shed loads in the championship he looks like a menacing pest

I'm more concerned with how many goals he will score in the Premier League.
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Post by: Demitri_C on February 16, 2020, 10:37:36 PM
Samatta looks bloody good. No matter qhat division we are in next year keep him and get rid of wesley.

I think he will score shed loads in the championship he looks like a menacing pest

I'm more concerned with how many goals he will score in the Premier League.

My point being if we do go down he should be kept at all costs
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Post by: Proposition Joe on February 17, 2020, 08:42:13 AM
We have a good player here, seems to have good moves, awareness, looks like a very tidy signing to me.

Indeed, his decision making seems good, it looks like he has good "football brain".
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Post by: fbriai on February 17, 2020, 08:56:23 AM
Thought he played really well yesterday. Quick and sharp, he gets about and gets into good positions too, was right on Alderweireld's shoulder for the first goal. He also held the ball up well and was no pushover in the air. I can't remember him giving the ball away and we looked less effective once he was off the pitch. Think he is more suited to the way we play than Wesley.
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Post by: chrisw1 on February 17, 2020, 09:01:53 AM
He's looked pretty promising in all his games so far and was very busy yesterday.  I'm looking forward to seeing what his finishing is like once he actually gets a few decent chances.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 17, 2020, 09:04:12 AM
He's a good player, no doubt. If we do go down i would hope there will be something in place to say that he stays here next season and if so, and as long as he doesn't get a Kodjia type injury he would probably be the best centre forward in that league next season. If we stay up, he looks easily good enough for this league. We need to play the same formation as we have been but with the front three being a player in behind and a front 2. He'll look even better then and i still think Wes could be a good partner for him in that situation if he fully gets over the injury.

At the moment, i'd love to see Grealish get a proper 'free role' to play in behind 2 strikers and drift wide when appropriate.
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Post by: Rigadon on February 17, 2020, 06:33:39 PM
He has a good first touch so holds play up well and picks a pass.  Also gets into good goal scoring positions.   Needs service, but will get a handful of goals before the end of the season I think. 
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Post by: ChicagoLion on February 17, 2020, 08:52:25 PM
Massive improvement on Wes
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Post by: themossman on February 17, 2020, 09:08:18 PM
Really liked the look of him yesterday. Lively, can do the hold up play but also much more instinct for getting into dangerous positions than wes. I think they could actually be a decent front 2.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on February 18, 2020, 08:59:45 AM
Did well Sunday, still getting to terms with the PL, Saturday will be a massive game for him.
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Post by: Drummond on February 18, 2020, 09:27:51 AM
Looks good so far.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 18, 2020, 12:20:30 PM
He's a good player, no doubt. If we do go down i would hope there will be something in place to say that he stays here next season and if so, and as long as he doesn't get a Kodjia type injury he would probably be the best centre forward in that league next season. If we stay up, he looks easily good enough for this league. We need to play the same formation as we have been but with the front three being a player in behind and a front 2. He'll look even better then and i still think Wes could be a good partner for him in that situation if he fully gets over the injury.

At the moment, i'd love to see Grealish get a proper 'free role' to play in behind 2 strikers and drift wide when appropriate.

I would expect him to stay if the worst happened.

If Fulham can get Mitrovic to stay down there which I didn't expect then we can tempt someone who is still largely unknown in this country.

Also on a bigger wage now than if he just moved back to Belgium or similar leagues so have to factor that in aswell.

Not worried about losing him at all compared to Grealish obviously and also Mings.
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Post by: Villa Lew on February 29, 2020, 02:38:04 PM
Good article on him in today's Mail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8057521/Meet-Titan-Tanzania-Ally-Samatta-wants-thrill-Aston-Villa-faithful-Wembley.html
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 29, 2020, 02:53:26 PM
Seems a great man. All the comments below are from Tanzania, they love him. One comment rang true:

"A very hard-working player. Fancy him to succeed at Villa. Smith gotta find a way to get him more involved . he's been isolated upfront most of the time."
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Post by: Toronto Villa on February 29, 2020, 03:14:24 PM
I find way too often as a team opponents find a way to spread us way too easily. It leaves huge gaps between all three phases too often and we are exposed in attack and defence. Smith has to find a way to keep our shape much more compact and disciplined. It will provide us with more rigidity when defending and as the comment above suggests, not leave our lone striker isolated when we attack. And when as a team we do get spread out we then end up chasing the ball and become exhausted and exposed late on in games.
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Post by: CT on February 29, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
I find way too often as a team opponents find a way to spread us way too easily. It leaves huge gaps between all three phases too often and we are exposed in attack and defence. Smith has to find a way to keep our shape much more compact and disciplined. It will provide us with more rigidity when defending and as the comment above suggests, not leave our lone striker isolated when we attack. And when as a team we do get spread out we then end up chasing the ball and become exhausted and exposed late on in games.


I wouldn't have Trez or AEG timorrow, but I would have Jack playing close behind Samatta.
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Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 29, 2020, 09:00:58 PM
I find way too often as a team opponents find a way to spread us way too easily. It leaves huge gaps between all three phases too often and we are exposed in attack and defence. Smith has to find a way to keep our shape much more compact and disciplined. It will provide us with more rigidity when defending and as the comment above suggests, not leave our lone striker isolated when we attack. And when as a team we do get spread out we then end up chasing the ball and become exhausted and exposed late on in games.


I wouldn't have Trez or AEG timorrow, but I would have Jack playing close behind Samatta.

Pack the midfield, Jack behind Samatta.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 01, 2020, 02:02:43 AM
I find way too often as a team opponents find a way to spread us way too easily. It leaves huge gaps between all three phases too often and we are exposed in attack and defence. Smith has to find a way to keep our shape much more compact and disciplined. It will provide us with more rigidity when defending and as the comment above suggests, not leave our lone striker isolated when we attack. And when as a team we do get spread out we then end up chasing the ball and become exhausted and exposed late on in games.


I wouldn't have Trez or AEG timorrow, but I would have Jack playing close behind Samatta.

Let's be honest, we signed Trez because he came from Nassef Sawiris' Egypt and A&E because he was a cheap squad filler. I've no problem with that providing we'd have signed a proper winger; we didn't, thus two deadbeats in the team. Playing every game with ten men and people question why we're so shit and about to be relegated..
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Post by: in exile on March 01, 2020, 12:56:14 PM
What a little ray of sunshine you are
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 01, 2020, 02:46:57 PM
Thanks. Samatta is our secret weapon today. I can feel it in my water.
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Post by: purpletrousers on March 01, 2020, 03:10:03 PM
Thanks. Samatta is our secret weapon today. I can feel it in my water.

As heís our main striker Iím not sure heís much of a secret, but maybe Barry will selected and be that exactly...
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Post by: purpletrousers on March 01, 2020, 03:11:42 PM
I did try and accost a guy in a Tanzania short the other day by shouting Samagoal but he didnít hear me in the crowd. I do hope your water is bang on btw.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 01, 2020, 03:27:30 PM
Thanks. Samatta is our secret weapon today. I can feel it in my water.

As heís our main striker Iím not sure heís much of a secret, but maybe Barry will selected and be that exactly...

What I mean is nobody knows much about him, even us. It's a bit hard to plan your defence against an unknown striker. He will score today!
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 01, 2020, 06:39:53 PM
A superb goal today but the issue continues to be chance creation. He can clearly score goals and will be an asset to us if we stay up or go down. But we simply have to find ways to put him in good positions to score. And we just donít do that nearly enough right now.
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Post by: themossman on March 01, 2020, 06:50:17 PM
Love this player heís gonna be a legend.

Agree about delivery. Now we have a proper CF who can get into attacking positions and score headers and all sorts of crazy things like that, we can probably go back the tactics that were unsuccessful with Wesley up front. Iíd like to see Elmo start there in the league as his delivery is so good, plus he has the balls for a regelation fight.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on March 01, 2020, 06:51:50 PM
He'll score 20 + if the worst happens next season. Think back to the easy goals Tammy would tap in from crosses last year, championship teams aren't good defending crosses.

If we'd signed him in August we'd be over 30 points so that will be one of the frustrations of the season.
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Post by: VillaAlways on March 01, 2020, 07:42:18 PM
What a steal. Heís great and will only get better
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Post by: SoccerHQ on March 01, 2020, 07:53:26 PM
Makes you wonder if he was even a target last summer or only came onto our radar with his contract running down in January?

Bet Brugge couldn't believe their luck when they saw 20m + coming their way for Wesley so guess Genk didn't want to sell him last summer but really our season would've been much more comfortable as you can just tell he knows how to play the lone forward role with the runs he makes and holding the ball up pretty well.
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Post by: brontebilly on March 01, 2020, 07:57:20 PM
What a steal. Heís great and will only get better

Simply miles better than Wesley. As soon as that cross came in from AEG you just knew he wouldn't miss. Good touch and speed. I do think we will need to try Davis and him up top at times for the rest of the season. Davis hold up play is immense.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 01, 2020, 08:00:56 PM
You do wonder if we'd be doing a fair bit better if we'd bought him in the summer.
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Post by: Villan82 on March 01, 2020, 08:02:40 PM
It's a pity he took him off. Might have been useful for that corner we won.
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Post by: supertom on March 01, 2020, 08:03:04 PM
He's facing many of the same problems as Wes. Being isolated. Constantly being played the wrong sort of ball when we're starting attacks and getting very limited service. I think the big difference though, is how much sharper he looks, when we do get into useful positions, he looks like he wants to attack good areas, whereas Wes had a habit of not being in the right place. Plus as far as finishing, his two goals were very clinically taken (and Wesley fluffed his lines a lot). He's been unlucky too. An inch away from a goal against Leicester, and the Spurs Own goal he'd have tucked away if it had got past the defender.

I'd like to see him playing with Davis.
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Post by: themossman on March 01, 2020, 08:05:13 PM
No question in my mind be much higher up the table if weíd had him from the off instead of wes. Heís just much more natural in attacking positions and he can actually score with his head, plus he can do all the other stuff Wes can.
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Post by: PaulTheVillan on March 01, 2020, 08:19:33 PM
No question in my mind be much higher up the table if weíd had him from the off instead of wes. Heís just much more natural in attacking positions and he can actually score with his head, plus he can do all the other stuff Wes can.
He's way more mobile and attacks the ball/near post. Wes tends to hand back and wait for it on a plate
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on March 01, 2020, 08:25:35 PM
He just looks like someone who will score goals more regularly than Wesley.
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Post by: LeeB on March 01, 2020, 09:04:16 PM
Bang. One chance, no qualms.

Get him and Davis together, smash our way to safety.
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Post by: aj2k77 on March 01, 2020, 09:06:31 PM
He plays like a center forward. Wesley doesn't.

I like him, I think he's got the scorers instinct and will score goals in the Championship next season, should it come to that. If not he's not a bad option in the Premier League.
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Post by: David_Nab on March 01, 2020, 09:07:02 PM
Wes is more of a hold up player likely to be facing towards his own goal and bringing others into play where as Samatta more forward facing.However they both have same issue of lack of support around them
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Post by: PaulWinch again on March 01, 2020, 09:12:09 PM
Letís get some crosses onto Samattaís head in the remainder of the season.
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Post by: Villan82 on March 01, 2020, 09:25:49 PM
Letís get some crosses onto Samattaís head in the remainder of the season.

This. AEG did get a nice cross in.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on March 01, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
He did and it was a belter.
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Post by: Demitri_C on March 01, 2020, 09:35:15 PM
Keep him at all costs no matter what league we are in
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Post by: Fred Crump on March 01, 2020, 09:38:55 PM
Again he was top notch today. Keep for sure. I know old school 442 is out of fashion but I canít help feeling that him and one of Wes or Davis would bag a hatful together.
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Post by: phantom limb on March 01, 2020, 10:18:03 PM
Iíd like to see him and Wes up front next season, I think theyíd work together very well
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Post by: Demitri_C on March 02, 2020, 07:12:54 AM
Iíd like to see him and Wes up front next season, I think theyíd work together very well

I think wes behind samatta has the potential to be a great partnership.
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Post by: Richard on March 02, 2020, 08:12:33 AM
Ally will score goals but so frustrating how little we create for him. Did he have any chances yesterday other than the header ?
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Post by: Mister E on March 02, 2020, 08:16:41 AM
Iíd like to see him and Wes up front next season, I think theyíd work together very well
Yep; definitely agree with you.
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Post by: Luke8 on March 02, 2020, 08:26:48 AM
Ally will score goals but so frustrating how little we create for him. Did he have any chances yesterday other than the header ?

Donít think so. Wouldnít judge him, or the team, to harshly on that given the opposition though - I reckon they average very few shots conceded per game.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on March 02, 2020, 02:28:34 PM
I really like him, great attitude, runs off the ball Happy to put his body between defender and ball.
Great finish yesterday.
I think our crossing is not making the most out of his ability.
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Post by: Vill I An on March 02, 2020, 03:19:19 PM
I really like him .
I wish he was signed in the summer.
Annoying
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Post by: john e on March 02, 2020, 04:04:42 PM
unfortunately for him both his goals have been scored in losing games but he does look useful and a definite goal threat when given the service which has not been great up till now

the other thing I noticed about both his goals was his eagerness to get the ball out of the net and get going again
No showboating around milking the applause just a determination to kick off and get back to business

good team ethic I thought

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Post by: KRS on March 02, 2020, 04:09:56 PM
He will be great for us, and has already shown a lot more in his few games then Wesley did before his unfortunate injury.
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Post by: manic-road on March 02, 2020, 06:18:40 PM
Looks good in front of goal, hasn't been given many chances but looks like he knows where the net is. Could be a real star next season.
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Post by: LukeJames on March 02, 2020, 06:23:38 PM
I really like what I have seen so far, we need to make sure he's not isolated.

Diving headers are football porn.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 02, 2020, 09:42:29 PM
Heís much better than Wesley.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 03, 2020, 01:34:38 AM
well he can head a ball for starters. How did we sign a big CF that couldn't head a ball? Isn't that on page one of the job description?
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Post by: Kimaster1976 on March 03, 2020, 07:07:58 AM
It does make you wonder how exactly we scouted forwards from Belgium in the summer and somebody thought spending triple the price on Wesley was the better option!

Even more worrying is that thought was then agreed with by the powers that be.
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Post by: paul_e on March 03, 2020, 07:47:22 AM
Wesley was 22 when he signed, Samatta was 27. The strategy in the summer was 'good now, better later' so Samatta, 26 at the time, was probably slightly outside our range.

Alternatively we may have been trying to sign him but just couldn't get it done, or someone else similar.
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Post by: robbo1874 on March 03, 2020, 07:51:47 AM
Cracking header. Canít remember a better one in recent years for us. I thought he was well involved in the game too and did well overall. Definitely rate him. Imagine the scenes in Tanzania when that hit the back of the net!
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Post by: Mister E on March 03, 2020, 08:43:14 AM
Wesley was 22 when he signed, Samatta was 27. The strategy in the summer was 'good now, better later' so Samatta, 26 at the time, was probably slightly outside our range.

Alternatively we may have been trying to sign him but just couldn't get it done, or someone else similar.
Probably should have bought both at the same time!
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 03, 2020, 09:16:21 AM
Whatever else happens in our final 11 games this season, Samatta (2 goals in 5 appearances) has to play the full 90+ minutes in each game. It is no good substituting a proven goalscorer with an unproven goalscorer. If Davis or Borja have to come on then it must not be at the expence of Samatta, but alongside him in a 2 up front formation.
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Post by: paul_e on March 03, 2020, 10:45:59 AM
Wesley was 22 when he signed, Samatta was 27. The strategy in the summer was 'good now, better later' so Samatta, 26 at the time, was probably slightly outside our range.

Alternatively we may have been trying to sign him but just couldn't get it done, or someone else similar.
Probably should have bought both at the same time!

As my 2nd line says I suspect that's what they wanted to do, either they couldn't get an agreement at the time or they had someone else in mind and when that fell through they didn't have time to anything else.
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Post by: Pete3206 on March 03, 2020, 10:50:34 AM
Whatever else happens in our final 11 games this season, Samatta (2 goals in 5 appearances) has to play the full 90+ minutes in each game. It is no good substituting a proven goalscorer with an unproven goalscorer. If Davis or Borja have to come on then it must not be at the expence of Samatta, but alongside him in a 2 up front formation.

Nail on the head. He's a goalscorer, so there's always a chance for goal while he's on the pitch.
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Post by: Duncan Shaw on March 03, 2020, 11:19:28 AM
Whatever else happens in our final 11 games this season, Samatta (2 goals in 5 appearances) has to play the full 90+ minutes in each game. It is no good substituting a proven goalscorer with an unproven goalscorer. If Davis or Borja have to come on then it must not be at the expence of Samatta, but alongside him in a 2 up front formation.

Nail on the head. He's a goalscorer, so there's always a chance for goal while he's on the pitch.
Exactly what I was screaming on Sunday.  I still don't get it now!
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Post by: Demitri_C on March 03, 2020, 01:17:47 PM
It does make you wonder how exactly we scouted forwards from Belgium in the summer and somebody thought spending triple the price on Wesley was the better option!

Even more worrying is that thought was then agreed with by the powers that be.

Like an above poster has aaid i think its age and the potentail he could become a  brazil international
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Post by: Ditton33 on March 03, 2020, 03:44:02 PM
Guaranteed legendary status if his goals secure our PL status this season.