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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 12, 2020, 03:30:28 PM
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Christ almighty.
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I wonder what scoreline we are aiming for with that selection. :)
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Yikes.
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Surprised he has thrown in someone who has barely played this season. Although I suppose that accusation could be levelled at most of the others who we have put there as well.
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Elmo for defence. This is going to be 90-10 possession in their favour.
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That’s a proper Bruce line up
The blokes lost his head
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Good Lord. Elmo and Taylor up against Mahrez and Silva.
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That’s a proper Bruce line up
The blokes lost his head
To be honest, this is better than the open 4-3-3 we were playing regardless of the opponent. Teams were walking through us. A bit of pragmatism here.
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On the plus side, they have rested Sterling.
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Jesus wept. That's parking the bus, anyhow.
Forza app has it as a 3-5-1-1 formation. If we don't hold out early on and concede an early goal we're getting sautéed.
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Lambs to the slaughter. This is going to be a horrible sunday. Just no attacking output whatsover.
4-0
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I thought Guilbert would have started.
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That’s a proper Bruce line up
The blokes lost his head
To be honest, this is better than the open 4-3-3 we were playing regardless of the opponent. Teams were walking through us. A bit of pragmatism here.
It’s everything we were told Smith wasn’t
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Surprised Guilbert has been dropped. But other than that, it is probably out best available 11 at the moment.
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Daft selection . Elmo is solid enough usually but Guilbert was one of our best players during the week. No way should Drinkwater be parachuted into the team either. Not too bothered on Hourihane over Trez.
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I thought Guilbert would have started.
So would I.
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
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Oh...bloody hell
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Up against ultra fast and tricky wide men.......so we recall mid 30s Elmo.......the mind boggles!
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
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Daft selection . Elmo is solid enough usually but Guilbert was one of our best players during the week. No way should Drinkwater be parachuted into the team either. Not too bothered on Hourihane over Trez.
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Luiz and Nakamba didn't exactly play half decent in the week, so might as well give drinkwater a game.
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To add to our excitement both aguero and jesus along with mahrez start. They wont take long tk score with that team.
Dont understand the logic in playing with a 10% attacking threat. Just invite pressure for 90 minutes and watch city tear us apart.
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I thought Guilbert would have started.
So would I.
He must have a knock or slight illness, no way Elmo should be chosen ahead of him.
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Come on Villa, let’s get behind Deano and the boys and stop being a bunch of negative f***wits
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Kodjia still injured then!
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I thought Guilbert would have started.
So would I.
He must have a knock or slight illness, no way Elmo should be chosen ahead of him.
So why is he on the bench?
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Don’t understand why Guilbert has been dropped, for 3 at the back to work you need his energy on the right.
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
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I thought Guilbert would have started.
So would I.
He must have a knock or slight illness, no way Elmo should be chosen ahead of him.
So why is he on the bench?
Because I'm wrong.
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Kodjia still injured then!
press conference Thursday Dean said he went home sick from training and would be evaluated on Friday. He clearly didn't make it.
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whats Freddie done wrong ?
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
Congrats pal, when does the club issue your medal? Not that it ever matters, frankly, but I can promise you I do more miles than you to get to a Villa game.
Point-scoring aside and getting back on topic, it's always 100% valid to be anxious over a starting lineup that includes both Elmohamady and Taylor. A fortune spent on transfers and we're fielding the same poor full backs we did in the Championship
I think the people expressing concern here are entitled to do so, but enjoy your moral high ground.
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was hoping Targett was back to replace the useless Taylor , not that I rate Targett but Taylors final ball is awful .
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Pep tactics any player run at taylor
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Come on you Lions! Up the Villa! FTMF!
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To be fair I’m not sure Taylor will have an opportunity to play a final ball today!
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I think Targett has just been omitted as Taylor is better defensively. Surprised about Guilbert, and Trezeguet out for Hourihane to a lesser extent. Looks a bit ominous without a new CF signed as well. Here's hoping.
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Can't decide which team has the better strikeforce. Too close to call.
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Defensive set up against one of the best teams in Europe. I can't understand why folk would want us to be balls out go for it mode and probably get smashed to bits.
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
Congrats pal, when does the club issue your medal? Not that it ever matters, frankly, but I can promise you I do more miles than you to get to a Villa game.
Point-scoring aside and getting back on topic, it's always 100% valid to be anxious over a starting lineup that includes both Elmohamady and Taylor. A fortune spent on transfers and we're fielding the same poor full backs we did in the Championship
I think the people expressing concern here are entitled to do so, but enjoy your moral high ground.
Point scoring from the person who brought up better fan than you shite. I go, you dont. I see a postie from N. Ireland who goes every game, I'll see him next week at Brighron. He's a better fan than you as well.
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In the circumstances I think that is an okay selection, other than Gilbert for Elmo as Gilbert definitely suits 3 at the back and he did actually score our goal in midweek which Elmo wouldn't have done.
Unfortunately whoever we put out won't stop Man City from winning, as long as we put up a good show and don't capitulate! UTV
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Could we all concentrate on the forthcoming thrashing, please?
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Guillbert apart, you can't really blame him for not going balls-out against a side like Man City. A few weeks ago we were all (me included) moaning at Dean for never changing the formation - I don't think we can be too disappointed that he's now doing just that (though I think I'd prefer to see a bit more attacking threat in home games).
I guess we'll see when they line up how much actual attacking threat there will be. Hourihane certainly more forward thinking than Nakamba, so that's a little encouraging.
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Defensive set up against one of the best teams in Europe. I can't understand why folk would want us to be balls out go for it mode and probably get smashed to bits.
There is a middle ground, i.e. the more compact system with 3 CBs we've seen lately, but with more attacking personnel within it (one or both of Guilbert/Targett, plus Trez for example).
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Could we all concentrate on the forthcoming thrashing, please?
Exactly. Sod the willy waving, let's all just get back to "whinging like fuck" please.
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I really don’t understand why he keeps occasionally starting Elmo ahead of Guilbert. Guilbert is clearly about 6 times better at football. Today’s a right off anyway.
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I won't lie, I would take a point right now.
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I really worry this could be like a certain Chelsea match.
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The 2-2 with our last-minute equaliser?
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Forget the point, I fancy a pint. Dry January comes crashing to an end with that line up.
The only question... what snack to go with it??
I’m tempted by Salt and Vinegar Pringles. The more atomic, the better.
Anyway... we’ll be there or thereabouts.
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I am genuinely worried there's a very real risk we might lose this game.
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I really worry this could be like a certain Chelsea match.
Cant see it being 4-4, but I'd take that point!
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I really don’t understand why he keeps occasionally starting Elmo ahead of Guilbert. Guilbert is clearly about 6 times better at football. Today’s a right off anyway.
If it is a write off, isn't it good Guilbert isn't playing?
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Could we all concentrate on the forthcoming thrashing, please?
Exactly. Sod the willy waving, let's all just get back to "whinging like fuck" please.
Rumour has it Ads is still waving his on the Holte, hoping he'll get on Sky so that all us fickle cnuts watching from home catch a glimpse of his magnum chode
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I am genuinely worried there's a very real risk we might lose this game.
Tsk you and your drugs !!
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Could we all concentrate on the forthcoming thrashing, please?
Exactly. Sod the willy waving, let's all just get back to "whinging like fuck" please.
Rumour has it Ads is still waving his on the Holte, hoping he'll get on Sky so that all us fickle cnuts watching from home catch a glimpse of his magnum chode
Chode. The word of the day.
I do believe there’s a film called “The Da Vinci Chode”. And no, I haven’t seen it. The film, or the chode.
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Could we all concentrate on the forthcoming thrashing, please?
Exactly. Sod the willy waving, let's all just get back to "whinging like fuck" please.
Rumour has it Ads is still waving his on the Holte, hoping he'll get on Sky so that all us fickle cnuts watching from home catch a glimpse of his magnum chode
Just been over took by two Dublin season ticket holders. They're fast walkers them pair. Have been for years.
You're very sensitive. I merely commented that its customary to moan like fuck after we've been shit, not before. You took it as a slight and obviously feel some sort of guilt at the multitude of Villa fans that make an effort to come from all over to watch us.
Enjoy your stream.
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Await to see how we set up, but it does look, umm, conservative. And slow.
Don’t really see the logic in taking Guilbert out. Can’t do much about Targett being injured but think playing both Elmo and Taylor could turn into a back five too often.
The lack of any real out ball is going to be pretty problematic you would imagine. However, you would hope that Drinkwater and Hourihane will at least help us keep the ball better than we did on Wednesday.
Also, I don’t mind Hourihane as one of our front three given the circumstances. He may well be our biggest goal threat.
It definitely shows how desperately we need players in currently though.
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A stream? Not even a Sky Sports Subscription?
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Dont get why Elmo is in.
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Elmo is a very weird selection. I hope I’m wrong, but I feel like there’s no chance here.
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I may be wholly wrong about this, but watching on the TV the other night the game against Leicester I couldn't help notice how pissed off Guilbert seemed to be with the goal we gave away. And I'm wondering if words may have been said. As I say, I may be wrong but leaving Guilbert out today seems a bit inexplicable, otherwise.
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I'm watching on Sky. It's warm and cosy here but not quite got the atmosphere.
For my monthly subscription I could go to one match....
Oh and my willy is definitely bigger than yours.
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Sort of glad I couldn't go today. We need two forwards in this week. Watford are on a roll and will stay up I think.
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I may be wholly wrong about this, but watching on the TV the other night the game against Leicester I couldn't help notice how pissed off Guilbert seemed to be with the goal we gave away. And I'm wondering if words may have been said. As I say, I may be wrong but leaving Guilbert out today seems a bit inexplicable, otherwise.
It's possible, but Smith was critical in his post match interview of aspects of the performance as well and the sloppiness, so it would seem a bit harsh unless Freddy has REALLY crossed the line.
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As Tony used to say " get your prayer mats out".
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Sort of glad I couldn't go today. We need two forwards in this week. Watford are on a roll and will stay up I think.
Couldn't go or wouldn't go? Inspector Ads wants to know.
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It's warm and cosy here too. I've actually still got the Christmas tree up (I like my money's worth) and there's no-one in here but me to disturb the atmosphere).
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It's warm and cosy here too. I've actually still got the Christmas tree up (I like my money's worth) and there's no-one in here but me to disturb the atmosphere).
Peroni is cold though.
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If we capitulate like we did vee Watford they'll get 10. Draw for me. ;)
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The Manchester City mascot has a man bun...boy bun.
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It appears like we are going with two false number nines in Grealish and El Ghazi.
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Decent start
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Well our possession stats will be good..
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Because of the team selection I have had to back Hause at 110/1 for the first goal.
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Because of the team selection I have had to back Hause at 110/1 for the first goal.
That's some bet!
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Aguero going for the massive calves, rolled down sock Grealish look.
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Are we going to play total football?
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Already I've reached my limit on how much giving the ball away I can stand.
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You cannot give Citeh the bloody ball.
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Luiz has picked up where he left off at Leicester :(
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Aston Villa have won only three of their 49 Premier League matches against the reigning champions (D14 L32), losing each of their last 11 in a row.
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Already I've reached my limit on how much giving the ball away I can stand.
I read on a football stats site that at Leicester, Nakamba and Luiz gave the ball away 30 times between them.
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Fantastic interception by Konsa.
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Yes which is appalling.
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Doing ok so far but there's only 1 team who can keep playing at this pace.
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Sadness goal 0-1
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VAR check for offside, goal stands
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Onto the next game. Really need a striker in.
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Nobody anywhere near offside there.
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Very predictable and no surprise, given the opposition, but at the same time, still monumentally depressing.
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That’s game over.
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Well, here we go.
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Very predictable and no surprise, given the opposition, but at the same time, still monumentally depressing.
Sums it up.
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Christ we have given so many shit goals away this season.
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Drinkwater did so well there. Shit
Game over
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The players look beaten already.
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Very predictable and no surprise, given the opposition, but at the same time, still monumentally depressing.
Yes are we the only side at the bottom who has done nothing against the top 6/7?
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Our attempts to transition possesion from the back three to the midfield three are embarrassing.
There is the first. Drinkwater dreadful
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Ah well.
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I hate these games.
We'll have even less possession than that Lambert game at Southampton today.
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Pathetic, Villa.
Negative tactics, can't keep the ball, bang average players, no fucking striker.
Wake up, Villa.
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Will we ever get that freak result against the top sides? Are we the only side who doesn’t get results against the top teams......ffs we are shit.
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The commentator described that as "the breakthrough" but a more appropriate description would be "the first".
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Depressingly shit. Fucks sake.
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Keep the score down villa.
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I would imagine these City players have more energetic training matches than this.
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How in the hell do some of these men continue to get a job at this level? Absolutely abysmal effort from drinkwater and to allow Mahrez to pass the ball to the near post.. wtf?!?
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Line up is a disgrace. We’ve actually outfulhamed Fulham in our incompetent deployment of resources.
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Jesus. Giving the ball away in our own penalty area basically.
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I think it started from a bad decision by Taylor. He decided to close down one of their defenders in their half and left Mahrez completely free out on the right. We should've done better from there but you can't give a player of that quality 20-30 yards to run into like that.
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Will we ever get that freak result against the top sides? Are we the only side who doesn’t get results against the top teams......ffs we are shit.
We will need a couple if we're going to stay up.
We need better quality in the final third, there really is no major secret. If Man. City keep someone tight on Grealish they will keep a clean sheet today.
Adama scared the life out of them in both games so that's the type of maverick ball carrier you need v the best teams to get you up the pitch quickly. When Gabby was good he could do this.
Thought Nyland could've done a little better for the goal btw.
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Sadness goal 0-2
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Fuuuucck!
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Another pathetic fuck up at the back.
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Jesus Fucking Christ.
Drinkwater absolutely on fire again there.
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Line up is a disgrace. We’ve actually outfulhamed Fulham in our incompetent deployment of resources.
Why? We did well v Burnley and Leicester with the same shape.
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This could be a real funeralling
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We’re not good enough. I’m going to switch this off now as it’s got “massacre” written all over it.
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This is going to be a turkey shoot. Fuck who we are playing there is no belief. Drink water looks shite too. We deserve to go down playing like this
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End of the Drinkwater experiment?
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Get Drinkwater the fuck off the pitch. Wtf is this clown doing
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Christ almighty, our fuckin defence might as well not have been there.
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Drinkwater great start
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Fucking hell. What the hell were Elmo and Drinkwater playing at?
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Line up is a disgrace. We’ve actually outfulhamed Fulham in our incompetent deployment of resources.
Haven't we just, mate. That midfield. It's like paint drying in human form.
Fuck, 2-0.
Awful awful players we have. Elmohamady and Drinkwater. Garbage.
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Not watching any more of this.
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Drinkwater took too long on the ball there.
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Drinkwater looks absolutely shit. Fuck off smith with thsi shit football tactics
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Drinkwater again. Disaster.
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City love to work the ball around the opposition box so we give up their half, invite them into ours and we wonder why we look shit. Groundsman will be happy, mind.
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There's our usual, hand the opposition a goal, goal.
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That's really poor from Drinkwater.
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We don’t look like we want to be here
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0-7 is my revised prediction
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We’re very good at setting the opposition up.
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Sounds like Drinkwater is really outstripping expectations.
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Playing 10 men behind the ball and we are still embarassingly to play through.
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Jesus Fucking Christ.
Drinkwater absolutely on fire again there.
Yeah terrible. Even in the first 10 minutes we were taking ages for routine clearances.
Drinkwater has started 5 premier league games in three years so I really don't get why people were heralding him as some major get, he'll be match sharp around April maybe.
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Drinkwater great start
At fault with both goals so far
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We need desperate improvement and the recruiting department is busy wasting time in January bringing in Danny Drinkwater. Fuck me, priorities. Just put Nakamba in.
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Drinkwater waste of fucking space and air
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Where the fucking hell do we go from here?? Apart from the Championship. It’s painful to watch, I thought we started brightly... but this is what we’re dealing with now. A low average squad with one or two exceptions and the inability to do anything at all.
Jesus wept. Remember when we used to give teams a game in the premier league??
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Will we get a shot? Will we get a striker? Will we get another Dean Smith dry patch? We are in relegation spots, teams around picking up points and even though it’s citeh it should be a license to actually try something as we won’t win. Just die trying!!!!
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I appreciate this is the third best team in the league, but I can't get away from the nagging feeling that we'd be this shit against pretty much anyone.
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Sadly I think we’d better start planning for the championship.
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Hopefully this likely thrashing will wake the club up to actually make some decent signings within the next 7 days.
Expect the next shot of Reina to be frantically phoning up a return flight.
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Fucking embarrassing. Our squad is by and large absolute garbage.
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Elmohamady, Taylor, Hourihane..fuck, what's the point in raving? They play like they couldn't give a shit. Woefully inept so far.
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0-3
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Blow the whistle ref.
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Cue a "Worst Villa Debuts of All-time" thread. And, no, it wasn't Ugo's debut.
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Apparently we've had one touch in their penalty area.
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This is absolutely shite, abject tactics and Drinkwater is utter cack. We should be 3-0 down.
Shot of Reina there in the crowd biting his nails, followed immediately by Heaton looking frankly relieved not to be getting zero protection out on the pitch. Summed it all up.
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We look like we've had 2 sent off already.
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Sorry, but this is absolutely unacceptable from Smith.
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Do any of our “coaches” do anything?
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Must admit i'd take a point now.
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Cracking goal. We're going down I'm afraid.
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Disgraceful.
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Fuck this. Sky were right. We’re getting massacred.
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What was he thinking
1. Signing Drinkwater
2. Actually starting him against Man City?
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FFS 3.
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Sorry, but this is absolutely unacceptable from Smith.
He's praying for a VAR howler so he has someone else to blame.
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I actually laughed out loud at Drinkwater chasing shadows for the third, for fuck sake get him off Dean. No wonder he couldn't start for feckin Burnley.
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Fans leaving already.
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At least Luiz has another tick in the work permit box
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Anyone suprised?? Shit stupid tactics invite pressure and start drinkwater who was Blues for Burnley and played two games.
Smith really is a.clown
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Drinkwater directly responsible for all 3 goals so far.
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Can see this being another Liverpool.
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What was he thinking
1. Signing Drinkwater
2. Actually starting him against Man City?
3. Playing Elmo again.
Absolute shambles.
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What was he thinking
1. Signing Drinkwater
2. Actually starting him against Man City?
Won the league once, dint he? Good enough for Deano.
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Where is the pride ?! We haven’t even fouled them !
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Imagine spending 50 odd quid to watch this.
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Bloody hell and we've got another hour of this still to go.
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It's all so fucking pathetic and embarassing
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Seriously testing my dry January resolve is this.
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Fuck off smith. Line up and performance totally unacceptable
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Oh look, the North Stand.
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Dean is really getting some great displays out of the midfield.
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Never forget, someone once paid £35M for Drinkwater!
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Before kick off I said I would take a draw and I still would ;)
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Fuck off smith. Line up and performance totally unacceptable
What 11 would you have put out?
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Before kick off I said I would take a draw and I still would ;)
I'd take 0-3 at this point.
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Taylor...terrible.
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I hate to say, but it’s been coming. We’ve ridden our luck a few times in games, but these are top opposition. And we’re still not much better than upper championship as it stands.
Gutting. Totally gutting. Gutting for the fans who pay their money to watch this shit. At £50 a ticket, it was likely to be the highlight of a week. And instead we’re watching a team chase bloody shadows all over the pitch.
Furious.
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Dean is training us back down.
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Our players are just kicking it anywhere. They look absolutely terrified.
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Man. City won't let up btw, Pep was raging at them at full time v Man. United for only scoring three goals.
We just look second rate against any decent team that has pace upfront and can press well.
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Never forget, someone once paid £35M for Drinkwater!
At least at that point he had just been part of the midfield that won the league. For two years since he’s been appalling, but no worries good enough for Villa.
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Let’s hope they take their foot off the gas
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I hate to say, but it’s been coming. We’ve ridden our luck a few times in games, but these are top opposition. And we’re still not much better than upper championship as it stands.
Gutting. Totally gutting. Gutting for the fans who pay their money to watch this shit. At £50 a ticket, it was likely to be the highlight of a week. And instead we’re watching a team chase bloody shadows all over the pitch.
Furious.
100% this.
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The only thing that’s keeping me watching is the alternative is The Masked Singer is on in the other room...
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Our players are just kicking it anywhere. They look absolutely terrified.
They don’t look like they do any training.
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I think there may be a few leaving before the end.
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Whenever Jack collects the ball in midfield, he instantly gets fouled. Every time. Just a little push in the back. It's effective, but fuck me it's cynical.
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Compare this display to recent games against better opposition by Watford, Leeds, Sheffield Utd. We’re not just shit at football we’re a bunch of bottling losers with no leadership.
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Let’s hope they take their foot off the gas
They might between now and half time but Pep smells blood here, second half could be a bloodbath frankly.
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Fuck this, I'm off to peel potatoes and carrots for a roast. keep it less than 9 eh Villa.
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There's less shit on view in 2 girls 1 cup than there is in this.
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Compare this display to recent games against better opposition by Watford, Leeds, Sheffield Utd. We’re not just shit at football we’re a bunch of bottling losers with no leadership.
Yep they’re actually coached and have a plan.
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On the bright side this should at least hasten the search for a striker.
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I reckon 7 to them by full time.
Even a dose of Viagra wouldn’t help this flaccid performance
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What the fk do we do in training?
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can we send Drinkwater back
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Bet Reina and his bird are happy they swapped Milan for this.
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Fuck this, I'm off to peel potatoes and carrots for a roast. keep it less than 9 eh Villa.
You don’t want much🤔
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No one wants the ball.
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On the bright side this should at least hasten the search for a striker.
It needs more than a striker to fix this shambles.
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The problem is, you don't even need to be anywhere near as good as Man City to do this to us.
This shit-show is going straight back down, and it won't be this abject surrender that does it, it will be all the other ones.
Pathetic.
We don't even look like we have any energy. We could at least be running about a bit.
Oh, no, but fitness, that's another massive fucking problem.
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Brighton, Watford and Bournemouth between now and Feb 1st. Three games that will save us or relegate us. Let's hope the Watford new manager bounce has worn off and that Bournemouth aren't getting a new manager bounce. Of course it is possible we might be getting a new manager bounce by then.
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Please take Jack off, not worth an injury at this point.
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Never forget, someone once paid £35M for Drinkwater!
He was a league winner only three seasons ago. Not even pub league now.
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Great comment on the BBC website.
Smith way out of his league, just like Drinkwater.
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I will get pilloried for saying it but do we deserve to stay up playing like this? Fuck the injury crisis. Any coach worth their salt would have a squad that can cope with this. Dean might be one of us but he is out of his depth as Burnley aside have we really looked like we can win and comfortably? If our ambitions are built around this shower of shite then our ambitions are to be warming the championship......
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The goal difference is really looking shocking as well.
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Backwards, sideways, snail paced passing.
I hate the way some of our players go about their work. Nobody screaming and demanding a performance. Just a meek surrender.
Fucking twats.
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The problem is, you don't even need to be anywhere near as good as Man City to do this to us.
This shit-show is going straight back down, and it won't be this abject surrender that does it, it will be all the other ones.
Pathetic.
We don't even look like we have any energy. We could at least be running about a bit.
Yup that’s true. We clearly don’t do any sort of tactical training, but we appear to do fuck all on fitness either.
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Smiths gonna relegate us. We are playing like fucking cowards.
Totally unacceptable. Starting drinkwater against city alone wss a absolutely stupid decision. All three goals were his fault.
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can we send Drinkwater back
Getting him off the pitch at half time will be a challenge.
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And I wish Smith would play Grealish in an effective position.
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The BBC site said we had a chance in the first minute. If we'd scored then, we would have just made them angry..... oh...
And wtf do they do at training?
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Smiths gonna relegate us. We are playing like fucking cowards.
Totally unacceptable. Starting drinkwater against city alone wss a absolutely stupid decision. All three goals were his fault.
He seemed worth a gamble in place of Nakamba who gave the ball away too much at Leicester but events have proved me wrong.
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Sadness in my eyes.
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Backwards, sideways, snail paced passing.
I hate the way some of our players go about their work. Nobody screaming and demanding a performance. Just a meek surrender.
Fucking twats.
Surrender is about right.
We have no game plan, no hope, no desire, no sign of wanting to stop them, and frankly no talent out there bar Jack Grealish who... even he right now looks like he couldn't be arsed. Which is when you know it's bad.
I would say Smith out - but frankly, what's the point eh? He's still the man for many, including the CEO. If this is good enough for the money men then frankly we really are fucked.
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Danny Drinkale.
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I will get pilloried for saying it but do we deserve to stay up playing like this? Fuck the injury crisis. Any coach worth their salt would have a squad that can cope with this. Dean might be one of us but he is out of his depth as Burnley aside have we really looked like we can win and comfortably? If our ambitions are built around this shower of shite then our ambitions are to be warming the championship......
It is very simple. If you finish in the top seventeen you deserve to stay up. If you can't manage that you deserve to go down.
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Fergie, on the Dole!
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‘Fergie, Fergie on the dole.’
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Wahey a shot and some decent play
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I will get pilloried for saying it but do we deserve to stay up playing like this? Fuck the injury crisis. Any coach worth their salt would have a squad that can cope with this. Dean might be one of us but he is out of his depth as Burnley aside have we really looked like we can win and comfortably? If our ambitions are built around this shower of shite then our ambitions are to be warming the championship......
The two wins we've looked most comfortable in were Burnley and Newcastle. Don't think it's any co-incidence those two are more physical teams that don't have great movement or press a huge amount.
We were very lucky to beat Norwich who can press. Someone like Hourihane is a real passenger in this sort of game as he can be bypassed so easily.
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But will he change it at half time? Doubt it. Drink water is washed up and is absolutely out of form. It’s like joe Cole but he at least tried. They are carving us open and I cannot see where the wins are coming from. But a shot ! A shot!
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Is there a case to be made for persevering with Smith? Window is still open, the season is still salvageable.
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why in fuck did we waste a single penny on Drinkwater? That decision alone is worth fucking Smith off for. unfuckingbelievable.
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It's all so fucking pathetic and embarassing
And sadly predictable. We worry about no strikers but we're also missing a midfield.
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Oh we're the boys from Astooooon!
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Oh we're the boys from Astooooon!
And you can score when you like!
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But will he change it at half time? Doubt it. Drink water is washed up and is absolutely out of form. It’s like joe Cole but he at least tried. They are carving us open and I cannot see where the wins are coming from. But a shot ! A shot!
Yes and Joe Cole's game was always based on technique, which he always had. Drinkwater's is based on energy, which he no longer has.
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Is there a case to be made for persevering with Smith? Window is still open, the season is still salvageable.
This is the internet mate. Even if its an indefensible position, someone will fucking hold it until the death.
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There's less shit on view in 2 girls 1 cup than there is in this.
I can’t believed I just googled that...
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Is Douglas Luiz genuinely Brazilian?
He seems to struggle with 5 yard passes.
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Stat from Opta.
40 minutes in and Aston Villa haven't had a shot since the 38th second.
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Alan Smith -"Danny Drinkwater searching for his second wind". I must have blinked and missed his first wind.
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Oh we're the boys from Astooooon!
And you can score when you like!
You can see us quaking
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Is there a case to be made for persevering with Smith? Window is still open, the season is still salvageable.
The wins seem to be more luck than judgement at this point. Usually we're just shite.
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We're not very good,
We're not very good,
We're not very, we're not very,
We're not very good.
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Alan Smith -"Danny Drinkwater searching for his second wind". I must have blinked and missed his first wind.
I think most of us who had a good Sunday roast have got better wind than Drinkwater has right now.
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Is Douglas Luiz genuinely Brazilian?
He seems to struggle with 5 yard passes.
It's been coached out of him.
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‘Fack them you gerrin to them. Fack them up gerrin to them.’
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Stat from Opta.
40 minutes in and Aston Villa haven't had a shot since the 38th second.
El Ghazi had an effort from range a few mins ago. It was largely shite, but it was a shot.
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"Let's pretend we had a shot!"
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We're 1-0 up on corners, have that bed wetters!
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We're not the first and won't be the last to be on the end of this. But fucking hell I hope it stops happening so fucking often.
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We always score when I switch off. So I'm off for a bit.
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0-4
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True and I can accept getting beat but they haven’t had to work for a single one of their goals.
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We always score when I switch off. So I'm off for a bit.
Can you come back in June?
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It’s like watching Laurel and Hardy defend. People slipping everywhere and they still have the ball.
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Smiths gonna relegate us. We are playing like fucking cowards.
Totally unacceptable. Starting drinkwater against city alone wss a absolutely stupid decision. All three goals were his fault.
He seemed worth a gamble in place of Nakamba who gave the ball away too much at Leicester but events have proved me wrong.
I dont know mate. Guys played two games and you gamble him agaunst city? Madness and stupidity by smith.
Desperate measures from a desperate man. He looks out of hjs depth at this level. Sack him and try get howe in.
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Drinkwater, worst debut since Ugo!
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Has DS lost the dressing room? They don't look bothered.....
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We're not the first and won't be the last to be on the end of this. But fucking hell I hope it stops happening so fucking often.
You've got your work cut out for you today Drummond.
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HT
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It's going to be 8 or 9 isn't it.
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At least we won't concede any more for the next 15 minutes.
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They haven't even had to play that good, we have been so fucking atrocious.
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Drinkwater, worst debut since Ugo!
It wasn't Ugo's debut...
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He might be hard to get hold off because he has homes in Lancashire, London, Portugal and Dubai but I really think we need to give Big Sam a call. I am convince he would keep us up.
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Is there a case to be made for persevering with Smith? Window is still open, the season is still salvageable.
Before today we'd actually won 2 of our last 4 in the league so run is nowhere near as bad as what Bournemouth are on.
I wanted him out v Watford but at least changing the formation v Burnley showed he could change from his default setting.
Today has been embarrasing but since the day O'Neill worked out our record and performances v the top level teams has been damaged limitation.
I just wish for once the club could wake up and sign some decent players. If Wolves can do we should aswell. Three years ago they were managed by Paul Lambert and Weimann was their star striker.
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Is Douglas Luiz genuinely Brazilian?
He seems to struggle with 5 yard passes.
A complete charlatan is what he is.
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0-4
Jesus!
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Conceding right on half time has fucked us.
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5-4, we're gonna win 5-4...
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Some boos at HT. Not everyone.
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They gave up before a ball was kicked. Basic errors and poor players
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Just a fucking calamity in every single sense of the word
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The most worrying things for me are that we don't look like we care, we look incredibly unfit, and that it doesn't really need to be Man City levels we're up against, we are woeful most of the time, regardless of the opposition.
I can handle losing heavily, but at least look like we are trying.
Finding ourselves without a striker at this point of the season is also gross fucking negligence.
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Loads of kick off practice though, I bet we don't practice that in training.
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Pretty sure Jesus was saying to Fernandinho "this is so easy bruv."
Remember we beat Leicester and this is the opposition in the cup final. People thought the Arsenal final was as bad as it gets, think again.
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We're not the first and won't be the last to be on the end of this. But fucking hell I hope it stops happening so fucking often.
You've got your work cut out for you today Drummond.
Meaning what exactly?
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Bad time to concede, that.
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We aren’t ever going to consistently play well in football matches with Taylor and a Luiz in the team.
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He might be hard to get hold off because he has homes in Lancashire, London, Portugal and Dubai but I really think we need to give Big Sam a call. I am convince he would keep us up.
No-one would keep up that group of players I'm afraid. Lightweight, gutless and snail paced. Our midfield three in particular are a disgrace.
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It's going to be 8 or 9 isn't it.
Maybe it needs to be to get something done about our situation.
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Smith has to go after this. The setup the team the performance is just totally unacceptable
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I hope that wasn't our 'good' half.
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The most worrying things for me are that we don't look like we care, we look incredibly unfit, and that it doesn't really need to be Man City levels we're up against, we are woeful most of the time, regardless of the opposition.
I can handle losing heavily, but at least look like we are trying.
Finding ourselves without a striker at this point of the season is also gross fucking negligence.
100% agree, last time I saw a Villa side look this bad was the year we last got relegated.
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The most worrying things for me are that we don't look like we care, we look incredibly unfit, and that it doesn't really need to be Man City levels we're up against, we are woeful most of the time, regardless of the opposition.
I can handle losing heavily, but at least look like we are trying.
Finding ourselves without a striker at this point of the season is also gross fucking negligence.
Agree completely.
What a mess.
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The most worrying things for me are that we don't look like we care, we look incredibly unfit, and that it doesn't really need to be Man City levels we're up against, we are woeful most of the time, regardless of the opposition.
I can handle losing heavily, but at least look like we are trying.
Finding ourselves without a striker at this point of the season is also gross fucking negligence.
Yes, Smith's defenders will say 'Yes but it's City - they're much better than us' but it's not so much the thrashing as the manner in which we're getting thrashed. We have been a total embarrassment so far, it's borderline unprofessional.
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That's gotta be the slowest midfield we've ever put out and I've seen Mark Lillis play.
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They are relentless.
De Bruyne is obviously a class player, but oh dear Drinkwater chasing shadow after shadow.
Fuck off, Villa.
Do not like this team, manager or tactics at all. Apart from Jack, Mings and Guilbert, but even those two have been shit today, and poor old Guilbert can't get in ahead of that waste of space, Elmohamady.
Thank god for half time. My favourite part of the match, so far.
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Disgusting.
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Look at Watford they are getting out of trouble as they have some nasty big physically players who can fight , we have a bunch of light weight players who get out muscled constantly.
Drinkwater no help as he is miles off the pace which hasnt helped but again Houriane in games like this is hopeless he cant get near anyone to put a foot in.
Just have to keep score down now , regroup for the massive next game and ffs get a striker in
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Liverpool were only 2 up at HT in 2016...
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In a team of utter shite, Hourihane shines as the shittest by a mile
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Think today has also shown McGinn is a miss in these sort of games.
Has drive and mobility and played well in our good away games against the better teams.
We simply don't have enough players who are an out ball and can get us up the pitch which you need in these type of games as space will be left.
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If we do go down then we're proper fucked.
This season is still salvageable but I doubt it with Smith in charge.
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That was a FUCKIN DISGRACE...Do these arseholes have no pride in the shirt...FUCKIN DISGRACE.. So many players have given 100% but we struggle to find one these days that gives 10%..FUCKIN DISGRACE
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Is this some kind of wind up? Having Lescott giving his opinion on how bad our defending is!!
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I got asked earlier, ‘What time do Villa kick off?’
I don’t think, ‘Every ten minutes,’ was the answer they wanted.
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Dean Smith isn’t getting fired. This is it. We will either find a way out of this or get relegated with him in charge. And I doubt he will ever admit it’s anything to do with him or his fault.
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Is this some kind of wind up? Having Lescott giving his opinion on how bad our defending is!!
Like asking the McCanns for childcare guidance.
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Think today has also shown McGinn is a miss in these sort of games.
Has drive and mobility and played well in our good away games against the better teams.
We simply don't have enough players who are an out ball and can get us up the pitch which you need in these type of games as space will be left.
The few times we got upfield with AEG or Jack there is no one else there they are all too slow. In this formation against this quality of opposition the 2 wing backs are useless a well
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Anybody got a schematic of the electrics at Villa Park?
Pull a fuse for fuck sake.
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Changes at half time to stop it getting worse? Bench is woeful too. Nakamba and Guilbert on. Drinkwater and Hourihane off. Maybe Konsa in midfield .
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The team selection just leaves me shaking my head.
We play two defensive full backs rather than attacking players. The midfield is full of average and not fit for purpose players. Drinkwater has played 2 games in two years is it, why put him in against a team where you have to play with controlled aggression. Hourihane has proved time and time again he is not a man to close down and get a tackle in and against the better teams he goes missing, Douglas Luiz well enough said about that first half. The statistic they flashed up about most shots conceded just shows how bad our midfield is.
The amount of misplaced passes and giving the ball away and basic errors we continue to make is mind boggling.
We need to at the very least come out and show some fight.
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I don't see the point in slagging off the manager at this stage. What can he do with this group of spineless players. No forwards, lightweight midfielders and taylor and Elmo. And this team is an improvement on last years dress.
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Can only hope City take their foot off the gas like they did last Tuesday against United.
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No changes
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Too many Championship players, and a Championship manager. That's where we are heading, so may as well sort our transfer business out for a crack at winning the division next season. This has been beyond shite.
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I find it incredible that no changes have been made by the look of it.
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Personally I'd try and improve the press second half, give Trez the ball.
Can he play the false number nine?
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Pretty incredible to see Drinkwater come out for the second half.
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Personally I'd try and improve the press second half, give Trez the ball.
Can he play the false number nine?
We got a fair few playing false 1-11.
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In a team of utter shite, Hourihane shines as the shittest by a mile
Conor is vital to our team because of his deadball threat. It's pointless playing him today as we've shown no desire to play in the opposition half, nevermind getting close to the edge of their box.
Today just confirms for me that sadly Dean is so out of his league. The gulf between the Championship and the PL is massive and unfortunately, even with all the money we've spent, does hide the fact.
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Having some trouble with accessing this thread now!
The first half highlight; this thread. Thank you to everyone for the gallows humour. I think we need it on a bleak night such as this.
The first half low point: missing the 4th goal as our toddler had left a potty full of steaming shit in the hallway. And realising whilst dealing with it that actually it was better than watching the first half. Only to come back and realise they’d scored again.
Only 45 minutes of this left. What’s the worst that could happen?
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Smith is a disgrace for making such a diabolical team selection. How can you make such a decision on playing Drinkwater who has not played many games in the last three years and expect him to be up to match speed?
No excuses.
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If our play started to look pedestrian this would represent an increase in energy levels. Pathetic .
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I find it incredible that no changes have been made by the look of it.
It's unbelievable. Embarrassing management.
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Dean Smith isn’t getting fired. This is it. We will either find a way out of this or get relegated with him in charge. And I doubt he will ever admit it’s anything to do with him or his fault.
Yes it's too late now. The owners took a massive gamble after Watford.
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Beware the 47-55 minutes of doom
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Fenandinho booked, we've got them worried!
Maybe he wasn't booked, they're still worried though.
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Maybe the players will have another meeting where home truths will be told.
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No changes
Which is what we expect. Smith puts his head in the sand and hopes for the best. The only good thing to come out of this is for them all to shout each other at the next training, and see if they can find some balls, and maybe other leaders out there. But I doubt it.
Smith said that Drinkwater told him that he was up for a fight. Words are cheap.
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To anybody who who might know the answer... have we set any traps today??
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sack this tit tonight and get someone in whilst there is still time in the window
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We're not the first and won't be the last to be on the end of this. But fucking hell I hope it stops happening so fucking often.
You've got your work cut out for you today Drummond.
Meaning what exactly?
Real your neck in and quit trying to wind me up.
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No changes
Which is what we expect. Smith puts his head in the sand and hopes for the best. The only good thing to come out of this is for them all to shout each other at the next training, and see if they can find some balls, and maybe other leaders out there. But I doubt it.
Smith said that Drinkwater told him that he was up for a fight. Words are cheap.
In a club over a lass maybe.
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Aguero not getting a card of some sort there? Little twat.
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No changes
Which is what we expect. Smith puts his head in the sand and hopes for the best. The only good thing to come out of this is for them all to shout each other at the next training, and see if they can find some balls, and maybe other leaders out there. But I doubt it.
Smith said that Drinkwater told him that he was up for a fight. Words are cheap.
Maybe said he was up for a pint?
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When is Mcginn back?
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To anybody who who might know the answer... have we set any traps today??
Yes Chris, the potty of shit in the hallway.
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Wondering how Drinkwater couldn't get in a shit Burnley team? Look no further.
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To anybody who who might know the answer... have we set any traps today??
Loads mate. Mostly for our own players.
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The bigger picture thinking really in interests me in times like this on how new wealthy owners with ambition, having just given a new 4 yr contract to DS. How much will they spend in next 2 weeks to back him, or cautious wages approach with more championship football in mind, how/why will they continue to back DS given some of his recent selections, coaching decisions and game plans ?
I’ll post in DS thread too to discuss
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To anybody who who might know the answer... have we set any traps today??
Yes Chris, the potty of shit in the hallway.
It’s still better than watching Drinkwater et. al. Strolling around as if it’s a fun run.
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If Dean wasn’t too bothered with this game he should have played the reserves and not risked the likes of Grealish n Mings etc.
Complete pig’s dinner of a selection.
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to think we might get these in the final
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Another team meeting without the manager coming up in midweek. The last one worked for about 5 min. The Villa midfield; Jack aside is just horrific. And we have the worst full backs in the league by a million miles. That we have two 30+ players in that position at this level is borderline scandalous. Add to that no striker at all at the club. How the fuck did we get here?
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Embarrassing comment. He might be struggling but not sure name calling is required.
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Wondering how Drinkwater couldn't get in a shit Burnley team? Look no further.
Pretty fucking incredible he didn't get taken off at half time, that's the worst debut I've ever seen.
I just don't see how it's possible to not make any changes at half time after that, either, even if it was to take Grealish off and not risk him any further.
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Getting niggly now. No sign of Man City easing off.
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The yellow card for El Ghazi was a shit decision, if Fernandinho hadn't gone down like it was an elbow the ref wouldn't even have given a foul.
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Just show some fight this half please.
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If Dean wasn’t too bothered with this game he should have played the reserves and not risked the likes of Grealish n Mings etc.
Complete pig’s dinner of a selection.
It's completely fucked our goal difference too. not sure it would have made any difference, but why the fuck is Freddie on the bench and Elmo in instead of him?
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£125m pissed down the drain.
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0-5
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Will Barthez still sign after watching this?
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SO easy, just so so fucking easy
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Will Barthez still sign after watching this?
I hope not, he's 48!
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If Dean wasn’t too bothered with this game he should have played the reserves and not risked the likes of Grealish n Mings etc.
Complete pig’s dinner of a selection.
Aye, he got things right at Leicester but frankly ballsed things up disgracefully today. Playing Elmo was daft, playing Drinkwater even dafter, not having a striker is as much his fault as anyone's, and he set us out in a formation that was destined to fail.
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De Bruyne just passed that into a huge space ahead of the defence, shambolic.
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oh dear 0 5
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That is fucking terrible. massive, wide open spaces, right through the side. We may as well defend our six yard line. Shambles.
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I really, really, really, really, really don't like football at the moment.
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Right. No more Mr Nice Guy. Fuck Smith off. Buy Batshuayi.
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Drinkwater has been drinking anything but water. Skmeone told him not to drink during gamedays he hss been a asbolute disgrace
5-0 smith out
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Going for Southamptons record now.
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This will be 8 or 9. Regardless who they are this is unacceptable
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Drinkwater still on the pitch.
He looks like some old bloke who plays that 'walking football' where you're not allowed to run.
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I really, really, really, really, really don't like football at the moment.
Yes this is one of those times I really envy people who hate sport.
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Silva jogging into acres of space there, nobody paying any attention to him.
This isn't acceptable, sack this fucking muppet.
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This could be 10 or 11.
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Thing is there’s the possibility that this side would struggle in the championship too. Do they actually care enough about anything? Plus who is likely to come in to play or manage this lot.
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Drinkwater is just running in areas where he will not get the ball. Yet still on the pitch
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I am truly astounded that after an hour Drinkwater is still on the pitch, he should have been taken off after 30 minutes.
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Konsa is a really poor defender. Gets caught every game by balls down the side of him. I'm not sure many coaches would survive a result like this either.
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Silva jogging into acres of space there, nobody paying any attention to him.
This isn't acceptable, sack this fucking muppet.
Should have happened weeks ago.
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Paul Lambert is back
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Players looking at Smith for some guidance.
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Can't wait to twat these at Wembley.
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Does everyone remember when Dean was saying that even when you are winning comfortably, you should just keep on going and absolutely pummel the opposition to put down a marker. I think someone’s been listening to him.
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Well done Smith what an effort.
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‘Fucking muppet’ everyone is angry but fuck me don’t embarrass yourself with a comment like that
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Sacking Smith won't help. It's not him playing like this. A players meeting wound be hilarious - they're the ones who are crap. Formation changed but they keep giving the ball away. It isn't rocket science - give the ball to the ones in claret and blue and try to head towards the holte end. The ones in black are the enemy.
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Reina and Drinkwater. What the fuck were you thinking?
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Positive: we won't play Man City every week
Negative: we may well not play them next season
Added positive: means we won't get a twatting off them next season
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Pep subs
Smith doesnt
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Let’s just hope City don’t get a man sent off, then we’ll really be in trouble
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Reina and Drinkwater. What the fuck were you thinking?
Well it wasn't the future.
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Positive: we won't play Man City every week
Negative: we may well not play them next season
Added positive: means we won't get a twatting off them next season
Instead, it will be Sheffield Wednesday.
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It's nothing new, we were last competitive against the better teams in the league in the MON era. Add in all the surrenders under Houllier, Garde, Lambert, McLeish etc.
Indeed this season we've done o.k in some of the away games if not points.
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Luiz off for Nakamba
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Wow, Nakamba coming on for Luiz,
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
Ads mate, you back on the return leg yet?
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nearly 6
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Luiz of for Nakamba
That should improve their possession stats
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Thing is, players like Taylor, Elmohamady and Hourihane are international footballers. Not an ounce of leadership, offering guidance to others around them, setting an example etc etc.
Three players that I'd love to never see in a Villa shirt ever again.
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drinkvodka stays on ?
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Makes a substitution but leaves Drinkwater on. FFS
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This is one of those games that has a real 'end of days' feel to it. Something's got to give afterwards.
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I love this shite of the coaches showing our oncoming subs some tactical work-ups in a folder. You have to laugh and wonder what the fuck is in there.
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Charlie Nicholas predicted we’d lose 5-0. He’s going to be wrong.
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VAR checking to see if Drinkwater is actually a footballer............
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This is one of those games that has a real 'end of days' feel to it. Something's got to give afterwards.
It’s the same feeling I had in that Preston game where Whelan missed that penalty.
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Makes a substitution but leaves Drinkwater on. FFS
The sign of a manager who “knows best”. He’ll start the next game too, to prove it.
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Charlie Nicholas predicted we’d lose 5-0. He’s going to be wrong.
Come on lads, let's hold out for a 0-5
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Take Grealish off. Let him rest up before the next game.
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Almost had possession of the ball in their half then. The comeback starts here.
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I love this shite of the coaches showing our oncoming subs some tactical shite in a folder. You have to laugh and wonder what the fuck is in there.
Hopefully something simple like only give the ball to your own players. Have switched it off now - was considering changing to West Indies v Ireland cricket tbh.
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Hugh Grant predicted 0-6. He's going to be wrong, too.
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Aguero is now the 5th all time highest PL scorer, 84 behind leader Shearer. He could overtake him by full time.
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And most of us thought the purge at the end of last season was going to rid us of shite! How wrong we were, we just bought even worse shite.
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
Ads mate, you back on the return leg yet?
Why are you being a dick?
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VAR checking to see if Drinkwater is actually a footballer............
Excellent.
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Luiz of for Nakamba
That should improve their possession stats
Luiz replaced by the one option we have who gives the ball away even more.
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I can accept they're way better than us, I can't accept professional players like Elmohamady, Konsa, Hause, Nakamba, Taylor, Hourihane and Luiz making such poor decisions on the pitch.
Haven't even seen a player put in a tackle in out of fucking frustration.
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
Ads mate, you back on the return leg yet?
Why are you being a dick?
Agreed. ATAL you are coming across as a twat. Stop it. Ads is going to be every bit as fucked off as everyone else.
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It is a good job that Sterling is still on the bench.
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Another Championship player comes on. Hologram goes off. Probably broke an eyelash making that slide tackle a bit earlier.
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Smith makes another sub and Drinkwater stays on, as Graham Souess said Drinkwater wouldn't last 45 minutes.
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Don't we have any players that tackle?
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At least we’re only losing 1-nil this half. Great job Smith
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Have we had a shot since the 38th second??
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Don't we have any players that tackle?
We don’t appear to have many players who can do anything.
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41,823. You really don't deserve them.
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Southampton lost 9-0 at home to Leicester but have turned it around and are playing some really good stuff now.
But can anybody at all see this bunch of ****** doing the same?
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28% possession and 2 shots, both off target.
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England's great white hope, Phil Foden, putting a shot out for a throw in.
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Southampton lost 9-0 at home to Leicester but have turned it around and are playing some really good stuff now.
But can anybody at all see this bunch of c***s doing the same?
Not under Smith & Terry.
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Jesus, what a humiliation. There's about three or four players I'd keep in this gaggle of misfits
What makes the noise "beep, beep, beep"? Its the sound of a crane lowering that picture of Dean Smith from the facade of the North Stand :-[
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Only 15 minutes to go.
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England's great white hope, Phil Foden, putting a shot out for a throw in.
Makes a change from a Villa player doing the same with a pass.
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41,823. You really don't deserve them.
And being in great voice considering the shit served up before them.
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Southampton lost 9-0 at home to Leicester but have turned it around and are playing some really good stuff now.
But can anybody at all see this bunch of c***s doing the same?
Definitely not.
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Southampton lost 9-0 at home to Leicester but have turned it around and are playing some really good stuff now.
But can anybody at all see this bunch of c***s doing the same?
No. Southampton have a bit of nouse, whereas we have pretty much nothing.
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
Ads mate, you back on the return leg yet?
Why are you being a dick?
Agreed. ATAL you are coming across as a twat. Stop it. Ads is going to be every bit as fucked off as everyone else.
He had a go at people for questioning the team selection and then gave it large to those of us not attending the game today. Just wondering if he's sticking around until the bitter end. I'm sure he is.
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Don't we have any players that tackle?
Supposedly we bought Marvellous and Luiz for that role.
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The fans inside Villa Park have been fantastic in the circumstances.
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I wish i could go to sleep for 3 or 4 days non stop and wake up pretending this game never took place.
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41,823. You really don't deserve them.
And being in great voice considering the shit served up before them.
Indeed.
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Southampton lost 9-0 at home to Leicester but have turned it around and are playing some really good stuff now.
But can anybody at all see this bunch of c***s doing the same?
No. Southampton have a bit of nouse, whereas we have pretty much nothing.
Southampton have forwards. It helps if the opposition have any fear that you might score.
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Southampton lost 9-0 at home to Leicester but have turned it around and are playing some really good stuff now.
But can anybody at all see this bunch of c***s doing the same?
Not under Smith & Terry.
West Ham actually lost 5-0 at home to Man. City on the first day. They actually followed that up with their best run of the season, went six unbeaten in the league although they've reverted back to awful since.
We do seem to wallow in heavy defeats for weeks on end, has been like that since the Lambert era.
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No longer unbeaten in 2020.
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Southampton lost 9-0 at home to Leicester but have turned it around and are playing some really good stuff now.
But can anybody at all see this bunch of c***s doing the same?
No. Southampton have a bit of nouse, whereas we have pretty much nothing.
Southampton have forwards. It helps if the opposition have any fear that you might score.
They also have a plan and a midfield.
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Don't we have any players that tackle?
Supposedly we bought Marvellous and Luiz for that role.
They do both tackle. Just not very well.
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Southampton lost 9-0 at home to Leicester but have turned it around and are playing some really good stuff now.
But can anybody at all see this bunch of c***s doing the same?
No. Southampton have a bit of nouse, whereas we have pretty much nothing.
They have nouse, we have mice.
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Drink water for Angela. Murder she scrote?
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Drinkwater off, for Angela
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No longer unbeaten in 2020.
This isn’t just a beating. This is getting a lesson of a huge gulf in class, whilst having poo dumplings served to you on a pewter plate by Robbie Savage.
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How that wasn't 6 I'll never know. A poor finish from Jesus
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I bet Lansbury is well chuffed to be coming on for the last 12 minutes.
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
Ads mate, you back on the return leg yet?
Why are you being a dick?
Agreed. ATAL you are coming across as a twat. Stop it. Ads is going to be every bit as fucked off as everyone else.
He had a go at people for questioning the team selection and then gave it large to those of us not attending the game today. Just wondering if he's sticking around until the bitter end. I'm sure he is.
Stop this shit now, please.
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Well we got 78 minutes out of Danny Drinkwater. That must be some sort of record.
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What is the point of putting on Lansbury. Give Vassilev some minutes. Despite the scoreline I'm sure he'd enjoy it and at least be enthusiastic.
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Might as well have left him on and given him minutes. Could have took Jack and Tyrone off.
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Jack booked for dissent
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Drinkwater for Lansbury.
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Drinkpiss lasts 78 minutes somehow, eventually being replaced by Lansbury.
How depressing.
And that's also not how you spell Henry, you shit-haired ******.
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Doesn't look like Lansbury brought any instructions on with him.
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0-6
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Don't mess up your hair?
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Another gift wrapped goal
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Brilliant, just brilliant stuff from Hause there.
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Yessss. We are still shit’
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West Ham actually lost 5-0 at home to Man. City on the first day. They actually followed that up with their best run of the season, went six unbeaten in the league although they've reverted back to awful since.
We do seem to wallow in heavy defeats for weeks on end, has been like that since the Lambert era.
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It’s a shit day but let’s not get miserable about how we will react to it
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Lansbury on for Drinkwater. Both pantomine horses. 0-6. Complete omnishambles.
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And we give them another.
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Hause you brainless bell end.
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Hause, Taylor and a Luiz know it’s not illegal to pass to a fellow villa player don’t they?
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One of the best finishers the PL has ever seen. Hats off, they are different gravy. And we're shite, but we've established that.
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I miss the days of our goal difference being "worth a point".
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Hause, Taylor and a Luiz know it’s not illegal to pass to a fellow villa player don’t they?
Claret and black are just too similar in colour you know.
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The worst thing is, City have been nowhere near at their best today, they haven't had to be.
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Doesn't look like Lansbury brought any instructions on with him.
Says it all for the lack of quality in our squad that we are giving him minutes at this level.
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Grealish won’t stay here if we drop again. I’m not fickle but if it ain’t the manager do we look at the training staff? What do they do at Bodymoor to train?
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The worst thing is, City have been nowhere near at their best today, they haven't had to be.
Arguably they didn’t even play their best player in Sterling. Probably a mercy rule move given he’s have been up against Taylor.
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Smith will come out and say ''there is a gulf in class'' blah, blah, blah. Yes, we know that, but what about pride? What about the fitness of these fuckwits, what about you being out of your league?
He needs to go.
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West Ham actually lost 5-0 at home to Man. City on the first day. They actually followed that up with their best run of the season, went six unbeaten in the league although they've reverted back to awful since.
We do seem to wallow in heavy defeats for weeks on end, has been like that since the Lambert era.
It’s a shit day but let’s not get miserable about how we will react to it
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To be fair I can move on from today provided we do the business against Brighton, Watford and Bournemouth. The players and coaching staff owe us that after today.
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Yes. This will make him go back to 4 3 3 and he'll feel he has to play drinkwater to prove a point. Booo.
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Honestly think the f word needs a filter.
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And another shot, we're battering them now.
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There is a gulf in class between Southampton and Leicester. It showed in the 9-0. And yet somehow with no new players they went to Leicester and won yesterday. That is top fucking quality coaching.
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Disgraceful im lost for words
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West Ham actually lost 5-0 at home to Man. City on the first day. They actually followed that up with their best run of the season, went six unbeaten in the league although they've reverted back to awful since.
We do seem to wallow in heavy defeats for weeks on end, has been like that since the Lambert era.
It’s a shit day but let’s not get miserable about how we will react to it
To be fair I can move on from today provided we do the business against Brighton, Watford and Bournemouth. The players and coaching staff owe us that after today.
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Let us know how that works out for you Damo.
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A tackle!
That was shit, Jack.
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There is a gulf in class between Southampton and Leicester. It showed in the 9-0. And yet somehow with no new players they went to Leicester and won yesterday. That is top fucking quality coaching.
Yup.
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Smith will come out and say ''there is a gulf in class'' blah, blah, blah. Yes, we know that, but what about pride? What about the fitness of these fuckwits, what about you being out of your league?
He needs to go.
Pitcarch needs to follow, if there are any sackings, and there won't be.
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Grealish won’t stay here if we drop again. I’m not fickle but if it ain’t the manager do we look at the training staff? What do they do at Bodymoor to train?
Of course not and we shouldn't expect him to. Heaton will also be gone as will McGinn, it will be the next rebuilding exercise. Something needs to be done , and done quickly before we end up with a load more poor signings.
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Hause you brainless bell end.
his distribution was shocking against Leicester and there it is again
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The worst thing is, City have been nowhere near at their best today, they haven't had to be.
Likes of Sterling and Walker unused subs aswell.
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The worst thing is, City have been nowhere near at their best today, they haven't had to be.
Likes of Sterling and Walker unused subs aswell.
Third gear at best.
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Penalty Villa!
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Are villa fans singing we’re going down and will win the cup
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Score this and it's game on!
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Ha, who's going to miss this.
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AEG.
1 minute added on btw.
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Oooh pen. We might still get something out of this..,
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Thanks for your company in here today everyone. But I’ve had enough of this match now. I’m going to go and flambeé myself in cheap, nasty French brandy and pretend that it never happened.
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Smith will come out and say ''there is a gulf in class'' blah, blah, blah. Yes, we know that, but what about pride? What about the fitness of these fuckwits, what about you being out of your league?
He needs to go.
Pitcarch needs to follow, if there are any sackings, and there won't be.
Absolutely - he should be the first to go - most of these are his signings after all. Douglas Luiz, "Marvellous" Nakamba, Wesley etc were all his
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1 min added time after all the subs and goals? Officials know it's game on, bastards.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Good penalty.
Well if we stay up on GD by a goal....
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Gooooooooal!
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In the game played in injury time we won 1-0
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We’re not going to lose 6-0!
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Yes. We got a goal. Shame 6 opposition ones went in. I’m off to the pub
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We did a goal.
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FT.
Done by the officials.
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Next goal wins it then ? X
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Comeback's on!
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You’ve got to admire the stadium announcers attempt at enthusiasm announcing the goal.
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That spoils it for them.
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That spoils it for them.
It will feel like a defeat for them now.
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Time is against us. Can't see us turning this around.
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we're going to win 7-6 :-)
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Well that was dreadful. These next three are seriously important!
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3511.
I'm not sure what system people expect or is it just customary to whinge like fuck every time a team is announced.
Best fan alert
I wouldn't say I'm the best, far from it. Just parked up though after another 90 mile journey. Hopefully your journey to your living room past all your NRC posters was as smooth as the M6 south was today.
Ads mate, you back on the return leg yet?
Why are you being a dick?
Agreed. ATAL you are coming across as a twat. Stop it. Ads is going to be every bit as fucked off as everyone else.
He had a go at people for questioning the team selection and then gave it large to those of us not attending the game today. Just wondering if he's sticking around until the bitter end. I'm sure he is.
You're a strange individual.