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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on January 08, 2020, 09:52:10 PM
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Dip your bread.
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Proud of the team and gutted at the goal we gifted them.
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I predicted 5 or 6 to them.
Delighted
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Good performance overall based on where we were last time.
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I don't think we need to bother signing a goalkeeper.
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I expected us to get heavily beaten. Will take that result. Mings and Nyland outstanding.
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Take that. Great result.
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Brilliant result all things considered.
Now it's a one off tie. At home. In a Semi-Final. Can't argue with that.
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Would have taken that before the game, but that equaliser was our usual shoddy nonsense.
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Yep. Be brave, get something.
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Happy with the result. Given ourselves a chance now.
We're carrying one or two passengers but the likes of Mings and Nyland were absolutely immense.
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Great result, but boy do we love Russian roulette
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Despite the cock up, I saw a team tonight. Add 2/3 new faces and who knows we may enjoy the second half of the season
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Nyland is a bonus
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Superb battling display. Shame about give ins away such a poor goal.
Mings MOTM but pushed very close by Nyland.
Nyland has come back a new man.
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I predicted us to win 0-1 and we should have won 0-1.
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Good result and nice to see some resilience. Need a hell of a lot more quality. Nyland well done.
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Another inexplicable mistake. What the hell was that?
Good result though.
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Not too bad. If only we could cut out the silly errors, and be a bit more switched on at times.
Defence and goalie, very good.
Midfield, poor.
Strikers?
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That’ll do donkey, that’ll do.
Madison might be average but he’s a lightweight fucking big girls blouse.
Vardy is an ugly little shit.
Nakamba is shite.
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This formation seems to suit us, especially if we can get the CM sorted.
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Would have taken that before the game, but that equaliser was our usual shoddy nonsense.
This, in essence.
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A much better result than I expected but we really need to cut out these mistakes, there’s been far too many goals conceded in that manner over the season
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Had the Liverpool plasic opposite me at work who happens to live in Leicester (so Leicester are his second team) full of it all day. 1-1 on your big day out - take that.
How decent is Nyland???
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That’ll do donkey, that’ll do.
Madison might be average but he’s a lightweight fucking big girls blouse.
Vardy is an ugly little shit.
Nakamba is shite.
That's exactly my alternative view on the game. Haha.
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The only way I could see Leicester scoring transpired. Excellent stuff Villa.
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Mings was a colossus (I can’t spell gaint).
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The trouble with these sort of games is that the better side gets dragged down to the level of the poorer team.
And that's what we did to Leicester today.
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Nyland 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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Nyland really good again, maybe we were all a bit quick to judge him the first half of last season, especially when you look at the "defence" that was in front of him.
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Looking at it philosophically, if we hadn't conceded the goal in the terrible way we did we would probably have conceded one in some other way.
And that's a good result. The last thing we needed today was something like a 3-0 defeat to have hanging over us until the second leg.
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I would have taken 1-1 before kick of, delighted with that now, the most important thing is we didn't let Leicester get away from us, in goals, performance, or any other part the game, in fact you could say we came closest to a 2-1 victory.
Mings was outstanding, big giant shout for Nyland, a couple of players there should really be dragged across the coals for there lack of effort in that game, but overall a great result, its down to the home game 2nd leg.
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Yes, I agree about the keeper, seems to have improved greatly. A very solid defensive display with our usual naivety, slow thought processes and poor ball retention. I would have snatched your hands off had I been offered 1-1 before the game. But boy do we need two or three players. I hope to God that Drinkwater rediscovers his Leicester performances and quickly. Desperately need another wide player and a forward. Trezeguet was anonymous, Luiz and Nakamba, whilst the latter improved slightly, were overall dreadful, slow and constantly gave the ball away. Mings was amazing and the other defensive players were very good. We really need to build a team around Jack.
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Horrible goal to concede, just completely unnecessary. But we look SO much more solid with three at the back. Mings was his imperious best, and Nyland could comforably be number 1 for the rest of the season looking at that. Great shot-stopping, came for and claimed couple of crosses I didn't think he would get, and his distribution seems to have improved.
Luiz... well, for a Brazilian, he has a pretty ropey first touch. I'm willing to give them a little leeway, because they were chasing shadows for much of the game, but he and Nakamba just don't look a bit off the pace.
I'd have snapped your hand off for 1-1 before the game, so have to be happy with the result, but the manner of their equaliser is going to leave a bad taste I think.
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At last, a battling performance
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Proud of the defence and keeper tonight. Disappointed to only be drawing at the start of the second leg.
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Given how thin we are right now in a number of areas that was a superb result. Mings in a back three is outstanding, and who is this keeper we now have? Brilliant from Nyland tonight. Just gutting that Luiz was so careless and all of the hard work was undone with that one piece of carelessness. It's much better than all of us possibly imagined at the start of the night. Hopefully in 3 weeks time we have a few new players to improve us and get us over the line.
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Very solid performance, could have won it if Nakamba and Luis didn't appear stoned at times.
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I'd have bitten your hand off for this result at kick-off but feel a bit let down by the equalizer.
A one-off cup tie at Villa Park to get to a Wembley final? Bring it on!
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Had the Liverpool plasic opposite me at work who happens to live in Leicester (so Leicester are his second team) full of it all day. 1-1 on your big day out - take that.
How decent is Nyland???
That sounds unbearable, mate. I'd look into changing jobs.
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Great result, Mings superb, we can do it now.
UP THE VILLA
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Great battling display, players playing for the shirt like it means something .
Nyland - got a feeling this lad is going to be a hero by the end of the year. He's a changed man and we don't need another keeper.
Mings - myself included, before he was injured we questioned if he should be dropped because of the mistakes. We were all wrong. He is the bedrock at the back, talking all the time
Luiz and Nakamba - one of them alongside Drinkwater will be fine. Needed more experience there tonight
Grealish - one of those players that in future years we will say "I saw him play you know, legend he was"
El Ghazi - inconsistent but I'll take tonights performance all day long
Bring it on at Villa Park, this is our cup after all
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Nyland looks like a different player now, deserves a shot at no.1
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That feeling of kidlington wasn't totally unfounded.
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Apart from the brain fart, really enjoyed that. Team grew into the game.
Mings and Nyland most impressive. The former hasn’t put a foot wrong in the two games since his return and the switch to 3 at the back - seems to really suit his game, and Nyland has successfully auditioned for the number one shirt in my opinion..... solid performances since coming back in. Hopefully we have a non-cuptied striker in before the return leg 🤞🏼
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Mings almost looked in tears in the post-match interview. 🤔
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Mings almost looked in tears in the post-match interview. 🤔
Why,what happened?
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Good battling performance and three across the middle really works. It’s a common theme that both luiz and Nakamba get caught in possession, hence why we miss SJM and why we are after another midfielder.
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Overall very happy with that.
I thought we'd lose 3-1 or worse so to go back to VP (where we tend to do o.k in second legs) level is excellent.
Still worry Leicester will have too much nous. We just lack that mentality throughout the team to relish opportunities when we're surprisingly 1-0 up away from home.
Just retreating to our six yard box and forgetting simply how to pass isn't good enough and hasn't been for all the occasions this season. We need some more experienced players for that as too many in the side simply don't seem to relish that type of match scenario.
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He just looked mightily pissed off.
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If this presenter calls him "Eric Konsa" again the I-Pad is going through the window!
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That was a pleasant surprise.
Great to see a change in formation.
Some good performances from 9 out of 11 of the players.
Nyland was superb. No need to splash out on a keeper.
Luiz poor but special mention for Marvellous - so awful it was staggering. Need to move them on with Wes.
Anyway 90 mins from Wembley. I think we will do it.
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Mings almost looked in tears in the post-match interview. 🤔
Strange but I noticed during a close-up in the 2nd half that he almost looks ill or something? Big dark rings under his eyes. Hope he's alright and nothing personal has gone down.
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How about singing anything about Konsa apart from about the size of his nob?
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Very please with the result, the attitude but shit we must play 90 minutes like the first 45.
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Would have taken that before the game, but that equaliser was our usual shoddy nonsense.
This.
Both Marv and Luiz simply aren't good enough for this level. They either need to up their game or be moved on.
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Like a lot of people thought we would get stuffed tonight. But although they had a few chances we defended superbly for the most part. Mings a giant and was constantly organising those around him.
We got stronger as first half went on and I was pleasantly surprised that after they scored we actually got stronger instead of falling apart.
Soft goal, was going mad at Luiz at time, but Konsa shouldn’t of passed to him there.
But nevertheless really proud of the team and if we play like that with that formation with a bit more attacking threat, we will be ok this season.
Watched this on sky, they really wanted Leicester to do us, apart from Hendrie.
Leicester still favourites but looking forwards to a rocking VP on 28th
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He just looked mightily pissed off.
Kid's a winner just like Grealish. We need to sign 3-4 more of those over next 12 months otherwise they'll be more hard luck stories this season and next.
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A stupid moment of madness cost us the win and to be honest, I wasn't expecting to say that. Mings and Nyland were immense. Luiz and Nakamba showed tonight why he's bought in Drinkwater. As good as they might turn out to be be, they're still a bit raw and it showed at times. Overall, delighted with the result.
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Who needs Peepee Reina? Nyland's a baller or whatever the yoof say.
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I'm disappointed, which says a lot - but I keep telling myself we've gone away to the side second in the league, in the middle of an injury crisis, played without a centre-forward, and still come away with a draw.
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Nyland was always a good shot stopper but his all round game has improved.
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Pity we didn’t win but it’s still a good result. Hopefully we’ll have a couple of new players in by the 2nd leg. We’re 90 minutes from Wembley!!
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Well I never expected that! Fantastic defensive solidarity. Nakamba and Luiz poor but it's a massive step up, they've got to cut out the carelessness
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Good performance, plenty of fight. Mings was imperious. He's catnip to a football. It always seems attracted to him. The mark of the Laursen, God, Dunne on his day, where almost every dangerous ball in seems to gravitate to them ahead of the others. I love Tyrone. Nyland looks as if he's completely turned his career around her now. He's well worth his place. Never mind Kaspar at the other end, it was Nyland evoking memories of Peter Schmeichal. Guilbert was very good. Grealish won the battle of the 10's today some great runs and plenty of nous too. I'm worried we're gonna burn him out though. There's got to be a game coming up somewhere to rest him. After we've made 1-2 more signings that is.
Luiz worries me constantly. He's slow, he ponders and his touch is poor. Do Brazilians not get born with football magnets on their feet any more? Technically in the last 10-15 years the national side has been getting very workmanlike indeed.
Nakamba is also a worry. He looks terrified of the football and he's late to the ball and reluctant to tackle at the moment too. He started the season promisingly but he's gone right off the boil. There's a player there but he needs a break. For me Drinkwater comes straight in at the weekend. I'd play Hourihane too.
A horrible way to concede but if we have a front man in place in time for the next league and get Villa Park shaking at the rafters, I fancy us.
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I'm disappointed, which says a lot - but I keep telling myself we've gone away to the side second in the league, in the middle of an injury crisis, played without a centre-forward, and still come away with a draw.
Spot on
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Great result, but boy do we love Russian roulette
Ha! Indeed. 21 shots/6 on target, we had 3/1 on target.
Great to see some coaching going on at Bodymoor Heath, Nyland was again excellent. Delighted for him.
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If you need to understand why we bought Drinkwater, watch Nakamba this evening.
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Nyland excellent - dont need a goalie
Mings outstanding
Hause and Konsa defended well but Hause distribution was awful and Konsa and Luis gave away the goal.
Taylor - he hasnt got a final ball has he , shocking, the system will work better with Targett
Need to sort our passing out at times .
Would have been over the moon with a draw before but giving away that goal , tut tut , as I couldnt see Leicester scoring .
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Nyland looks much more confident.
Great effort from the boys, but thought Trez and Nakamba were really poor.
I'd have bit your hand off for a 1-1 before the game.
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Stupid mistakes. So annoying.
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We do NOT need another keeper. Nyland fully deserves his chance to establish himself.
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That was a very pleasant surprise indeed, I'll take that on Sunday too.
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Great display, Mings really was very good. I think Nakamba and Luis will both be good players for Villa, but they're not there yet and have lapses in concentration. Another central midfielder and a couple of strikers would do very nicely. We don't need a goalie
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Completely convinced that Suso went to Bruges and spent £30m on two average looking players when Smith wanted Maupay and Phillips. That said, proud of the lads today, terrific defensive display and one silly elementary mistake cost us. Main thing, we are in this tie and with home advantage and a full house we have a huge chance of making a final
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We’ve given ourselves a good chance of getting to Wembley. More of the same in the return leg please. But fuck me, their goal? Concentrate you clown! If you can’t, don’t be taking free kicks . If you do take one, put it in the direction of the opposition goal.
I love Mings. Nyland showed great confidence. El Ghazi, no worse than Wes before the Burnley game. Lovely cross for the goal too.
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That was a very pleasant surprise indeed, I'll take that on Sunday too.
Aye, that plus a striker would be a lovely week's business.
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Great result in the circumstances. Second half was a tough watch. Given ourselves a chance.
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Also to add to the Mings and Nyland appreciation.
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Great result in the circumstances. Second half was a tough watch. Given ourselves a chance.
It was tough, yes, but look at it this way, we've been 'practicing defending' and we're getting better at it.
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Mings almost looked in tears in the post-match interview. 🤔
I thought he looked like he had a cold.
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This formation must be used from now on. Mings and Nyland in particular stood out.
We can win this and have another day out at Wembley.
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Nyland was always a good shot stopper but his all round game has improved.
I’ll tell you what. He’s not afraid of taking a high ball in a crowded penalty area. Really, really brave at Burnley and tonight.
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Nyland was always a good shot stopper but his all round game has improved.
I’ll tell you what. He’s not afraid of taking a high ball in a crowded penalty area. Really, really brave at Burnley and tonight.
Agreed TV.
That is what he has brought into his games since coming back.
He is braver.
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Nyland was always a good shot stopper but his all round game has improved.
I’ll tell you what. He’s not afraid of taking a high ball in a crowded penalty area. Really, really brave at Burnley and tonight.
Agreed TV.
That is what he has brought into his games since coming back.
He is braver.
Thirded.
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Completely convinced that Suso went to Bruges and spent £30m on two average looking players when Smith wanted Maupay and Phillips.
Having visited Bruges last month, I now wonder if Suso sampled too many of the local 10.2% beers before beginning negotiations.
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Missed Kodjia tonight
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Missed Kodjia tonight
Like a hole in the head
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Missed Kodjia tonight
Nah...
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Great result. The mistake was particularly frustrating because although we were sitting too deep and ball retention was poor before the goal, we didn’t actually look like conceding. His imperial majesty awe-inspiring at the back!
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If we sign another keeper when we're so short elsewhere it will be something near to a scandalous misallocation of resources.
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Missed Kodjia tonight
Nope....
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The mis-match in resources was demonstrated when they brought on the £25m Iheanacho, who has 100 first team games behind him, whilst we brought on Vassilev for his second first team appearance.
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Missed Kodjia tonight
And you missed your medication !!!
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Missed Kodjia tonight
Who?
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As others have said very disappointing to lose a goal through a mistake. But will take 1-1 all day and we finished the game strong, not collapsing over the line. Rode our luck at times but big positive was Nyland, outstanding right from that first ball. We looked so physically strong defending set pieces with their corners which is a welcome change. Everyone worked hard but we have a huge problem in the centre of the park. Nakamba was miles off the pace early on and he really struggled even to complete basic passes at times. Luiz did ok in the first half I thought but lacks courage to get on the ball from the back. The one time he did, cost us the goal so a real risk of him hiding even more now. Jack was class on limited ball, other two worked hard but lacked quality. Fine assist by AEG, mind.
Thought Rodgers had a bit of a mare tactically, was pointless playing three at the back but he kept it up. Maddison was outstanding but our guys did a great job containing the likes of Chilwell, Perez, Tielemans and even Vardy.
We urgently need reinforcements into our squad, quality ones in midfield and up front. Id be willing to see out the season with Nyland and Steer.
Nyland 9, Guilbert 8, Hause 8, Mings 9, Hause 7, Taylor 6, Nakamba 5, Luiz 5, Trez 5, AEG 6, Grealish 8. Hourihane 5, Vassilev 5, Lansbury 5
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As many have said delighted and proud with the team performance but gutted with the goal we gave away
Observations
Nyland - excellent if we do get a goalie he must stay as nr 1 as he deserves it
Back three - we have to stick with it as it gives us much greater solidity and a threat from set pieces
Mings - a warrior a leader a colossus Bournemouth must be wondering wtf how can you sell such a class player. There are very few around like him
Marvellous and Douglas - they have much greater mobility than hourihane and henri but boy do they make mistakes. How badly we miss a fit McGinn
We need two forwards and get rid of kodija I’d rather have vassilev than him
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Despite the positivity of tonight’s result, I must comment on how fecking poor Taylor is going forward.
He works hard enough defensively but there were at least 3 times when he was well advanced and for the millionth time showed a complete lack of ability to put the ball in the box.
Every time he feks up it hands the advantage back to the other team and leaves so many of our players out of position.
It’s actually quite a joke now just how ineffective he is.
Nice bloke though.
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Stupid mistakes. So annoying.
At least we improved on our corners.
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How did young Eerie Indiana do in his cameo?
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How did young Eerie Indiana do in his cameo?
To be honest after he came on I can't recall his name being mentioned again.
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How did young Eerie Indiana do in his cameo?
To be honest after he came on I can't recall his name being mentioned again.
Ball never got anywhere near him.
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Despite the positivity of tonight’s result, I must comment on how fecking poor Taylor is going forward.
He works hard enough defensively but there were at least 3 times when he was well advanced and for the millionth time showed a complete lack of ability to put the ball in the box.
Every time he feks up it hands the advantage back to the other team and leaves so many of our players out of position.
It’s actually quite a joke now just how ineffective he is.
Nice bloke though.
I normally try to stay away from Westwood-style pile-ons with our players (though not, I must admit, our Geordie wax-faced former manager), but Taylor is nothing short of a disgrace when it comes to attacking. Full-backs are arguably the most important players on the pitch in the modern game and Taylor is practically in breach of contract for 50% of his role.
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How did young Eerie Indiana do in his cameo?
Not sure he had more than a couple of touches. Looked like what he was, a kid playing grown up football.
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How did young Eerie Indiana do in his cameo?
Not sure he had more than a couple of touches. Looked like what he was, a kid playing grown up football.
Yep. Ran around a lot but was always a second or 2 behind play.
He’ll get better though.
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Great result, despite the daft goal we gave away.
Makes the home leg very tasty indeed. Bet the ticket website's crashing all the time.
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Brilliant rearguard performance by the lads. Luiz has now cost us three goals losing possession. Nakamba dreadful in the first half but I thought he improved but agree not quite good enough yet.
How embarrassing are those Fcukin clappers?! I almost prefer the SHA fans using them as weapons against us!
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The main contribution the kid made was to run around a lot, a bit like an irritating fly to Leicester’s defenders, which was probably enough to at least annoy them at that stage in the game.
Don’t think you have to be mystic meg to work out Kodja not sick and it’s highly unlikely he’ll play for Villa again, thanks for the one good season Kodj and goodnight!
Taylor defended well tonight, but cannot cross a ball to save his life. It’s a tricky one with this system as I think Targett has got a really good final ball, just not sure he can huff his way back up the field when the shape reverts to a 5 man defence.
Anyway whatever the result against Man City, two huge games after v Brighton and Watford before the next semi final, could be season defining few weeks if we get another forward in as well.
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The main contribution the kid made was to run around a lot, a bit like an irritating fly to Leicester’s defenders, which was probably enough to at least annoy them at that stage in the game.
Don’t think you have to be mystic meg to work out Kodja not sick and it’s highly unlikely he’ll play for Villa again, thanks for the one good season Kodj and goodnight!
Taylor defended well tonight, but cannot cross a ball to save his life. It’s a tricky one with this system as I think Targett has got a really good final ball, just not sure he can huff his way back up the field when the shape reverts to a 5 man defence.
Anyway whatever the result against Man City, two huge games after v Brighton and Watford before the next semi final, could be season defining few weeks if we get another forward in as well.
Perhaps we could play them both and sacrifice one of the Luiz/Nakamba or AEG/Trez combinations. We'd be adding to the defence and the attack whilst removing 25% of the guaranteed clangers that we will inevitably drop.
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dont think I've seen Emile Heskey on as a pundit before but made some good observations at half time and full time I thought. Chilwell and Konsa both caught ball watching at times (Guilbert's goal and Vardy miss in first half) their body position meant they couldnt see the attacking player. Schmeichal not being brave enough for that Konsa chance, was a fairly pathetic effort to punch it clear when you saw the replay. Also credited Villa for finishing strong after conceding the equaliser, dont think Leicester had a sniff of a chance afterwards.
Little Lee thought Nakamba had a great first half!
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Looking forward to the home match 👍
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Nyland really good again, maybe we were all a bit quick to judge him the first half of last season, especially when you look at the "defence" that was in front of him.
I think it serves as a bit of an example of what we'll (hopefully) come to say about Big Wes. It clearly has taken Nyland time to get to grips with English football, which is perfectly understandable - not everyone hits the ground running.
Drinkwater will slot very nicely indeed into this system - hopefully at the expense of Nakamba, who does NOT appear to have settled into the speed of the league yet. Ditto Luiz but I think he's got more quality and we'll see it alongside DD.
Very pleased with the new system and how we defended. If we keep Mings fit and sign a striker, we'll stay up.
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Great result, with a weakened team. This formation gives us a lot more stability at the back and makes us harder to beat.
Get a decent striker and winger in and we should see performances get better.
Second leg will be great now, a full Villa Park for one of those special nights.
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Just got back so not read the thread. Would have taken 1-1 before the game. Defended resolutely and pity to concede such a stupid goal.
Another great team build up to our goal, similar to Grealish’s at Burnley. I’ve not seen it back but feel Kinsa should have done better from the free kick brilliantly delivered from Jack.
All to play for and hopefully have a better striker option for the 2nd leg.
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Nyland was always a good shot stopper but his all round game has improved.
I’ll tell you what. He’s not afraid of taking a high ball in a crowded penalty area. Really, really brave at Burnley and tonight.
Agreed TV.
That is what he has brought into his games since coming back.
He is braver.
Agree, also think he’s muscled up whilst out injured which has helped him come back much stronger and confident , well done lad 👍
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Just home, drying out. Thought Nyland and Mings were immense, Luiz has a rick in him every game and Nakamba is a bomb scare. That said, our work rate was absolutely fantastic, and we have given ourselves a chance back at VP which is all we could have asked for. Well done one and all. Great result.
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Despite the positivity of tonight’s result, I must comment on how fecking poor Taylor is going forward.
He works hard enough defensively but there were at least 3 times when he was well advanced and for the millionth time showed a complete lack of ability to put the ball in the box.
Every time he feks up it hands the advantage back to the other team and leaves so many of our players out of position.
It’s actually quite a joke now just how ineffective he is.
Nice bloke though.
I normally try to stay away from Westwood-style pile-ons with our players (though not, I must admit, our Geordie wax-faced former manager), but Taylor is nothing short of a disgrace when it comes to attacking. Full-backs are arguably the most important players on the pitch in the modern game and Taylor is practically in breach of contract for 50% of his role.
I’m not having that, he put a great cross over in the first half, probably the best of his Villa career. A ratio of 1:150 isn’t bad!!
As soon as he gets in a promising position you just want him to play the simple ball 10 yards back to keep possession and the impetus is sometimes lost.
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Despite the positivity of tonight’s result, I must comment on how fecking poor Taylor is going forward.
He works hard enough defensively but there were at least 3 times when he was well advanced and for the millionth time showed a complete lack of ability to put the ball in the box.
Every time he feks up it hands the advantage back to the other team and leaves so many of our players out of position.
It’s actually quite a joke now just how ineffective he is.
Nice bloke though.
I normally try to stay away from Westwood-style pile-ons with our players (though not, I must admit, our Geordie wax-faced former manager), but Taylor is nothing short of a disgrace when it comes to attacking. Full-backs are arguably the most important players on the pitch in the modern game and Taylor is practically in breach of contract for 50% of his role.
I’m not having that, he put a great cross over in the first half, probably the best of his Villa career. A ratio of 1:150 isn’t bad!!
I must have missed that. Probably had my hands over my eyes!
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Shout out to the ref who I thought was excellent and nice to have a VAR free game too.
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The amount of Leicester fans moaning about us parking the bus, they obviously weren't at VP 25/01/2000.
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The amount of Leicester fans moaning about us parking the bus, they obviously weren't at VP 25/01/2000.
What do they expect? They're a better team than us, they've got better players than us and if we'd attacked from the off we'd have got battered.
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Anyone who thought Taylor defended well perhaps only saw live at the match without replays and the big picture.
Clear to see he was out of position several times and their was a notable attack by Ricardo Pereira where he went round him and was able to put it into the penalty box very easily.
Also several times was exposed and allowed for Leicester players to have attacks down that left side.
Vardy , Madison both had chances first half all with Taylor poor positions
Similarly there was some space on right side where Guilbert defending but no one as bad as Taylor .
Definitely some work needs to be done by Villa for the full back positions and understanding that role.
I can only see Mahrez or Bernardo enjoying all day long playing against Taylor on Sunday and being allowed to cut in to have shots a plenty.
For me Taylor isn't suited to a wing back role as he's a passenger going forward and has no sense of how to be attacking .
Good luck to him and nice chap but he's really weak player all round and I find it ever so concerning.
Funnily enough found Taylor bearable and adept as a general left back in the main this season however he struggles so much in this 3-5-2 and offers nothing as an option .
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Even ignoring that and our injuries, their performance in the 1st leg at VP is one of the most negative i've ever seen.
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'Fun' fact.
This is the 15th time we've been in the LC semi finals.
By my reckoning we've only won the first leg twice.
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Mings almost looked in tears in the post-match interview. 🤔
I noticed that, too. I wonder why? I think he was fuming at the goal we gave away. I love that he demands perfection.
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I'm not as anti-Taylor as some, but am looking forward to Targett's return. Simply because he's so obviously a wing back in a back 5. Should do well.
On tonight. Credit to Nyland...again. Superb. No need for Reina
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Completely convinced that Suso went to Bruges and spent £30m on two average looking players when Smith wanted Maupay and Phillips.
On that, it would have cost us £70m rather than £30m. Given FFP, it's not bad money.
Nakamba started really well, but perhaps needs a break.
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Completely convinced that Suso went to Bruges and spent £30m on two average looking players when Smith wanted Maupay and Phillips.
On that, it would have cost us £70m rather than £30m. Given FFP, it's not bad money.
Nakamba started really well, but perhaps needs a break.
£70m?
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A stupid moment of madness cost us the win and to be honest, I wasn't expecting to say that. Mings and Nyland were immense. Luiz and Nakamba showed tonight why he's bought in Drinkwater. As good as they might turn out to be be, they're still a bit raw and it showed at times. Overall, delighted with the result.
It was a bit dopey from Luiz for their goal but Konza has to shoulder some of the blame. He could see the Leicester player behind Luiz and he should either hit it long or shout "man on" when he gave him the ball.
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Anyone who thought Taylor defended well perhaps only saw live at the match without replays and the big picture.
Clear to see he was out of position several times and their was a notable attack by Ricardo Pereira where he went round him and was able to put it into the penalty box very easily.
Also several times was exposed and allowed for Leicester players to have attacks down that left side.
Vardy , Madison both had chances first half all with Taylor poor positions
Similarly there was some space on right side where Guilbert defending but no one as bad as Taylor .
Definitely some work needs to be done by Villa for the full back positions and understanding that role.
I can only see Mahrez or Bernardo enjoying all day long playing against Taylor on Sunday and being allowed to cut in to have shots a plenty.
For me Taylor isn't suited to a wing back role as he's a passenger going forward and has no sense of how to be attacking .
Good luck to him and nice chap but he's really weak player all round and I find it ever so concerning.
Funnily enough found Taylor bearable and adept as a general left back in the main this season however he struggles so much in this 3-5-2 and offers nothing as an option .
Taylor was not good enough in the championship so it was always going to be concerning playing him in the premiership, particularly against potential world class players.
Perhaps even more concerning for me is that Matt Targett is our first choice alternative. Lightweight.
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Completely convinced that Suso went to Bruges and spent £30m on two average looking players when Smith wanted Maupay and Phillips.
On that, it would have cost us £70m rather than £30m. Given FFP, it's not bad money.
Nakamba started really well, but perhaps needs a break.
£70 million? Mapauy was bought for £20 million. We could’ve gottten Phillips for less that £50 million surely.
Nakamba and Luiz both are so slow on the ball. I’d be interested to see the stats how often they gave the ball away. I lost count at the amount of times they were robbed off the ball as they causally fannyed about with there back to the opposition.
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That formation and application certainly first half, plus new additions, will make me feel less nervous in the second half of the season.
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It was never going to be pretty from us but if it had been we'd probably have got battered. It would have been the perfect away performance if we hadn't taken that ridiculous free kick and if we'd just played it long or down the line. We hadn't been in their half for a while so why not just get that ball forward? Why we passed it short I have no idea.
Mings had his best game for a while. Grealish continues to carry the midfield single-handedly. Nakamba is shit.
We need to learn to retain the ball better and how to break better. Our attacks break down in midfield unless Grealish has got it.
Leicester are still favourites but anything can happen at a packed and rocking VP. The atmosphere will be bouncing.
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We do give the ball away too easily and all of our problems stem from this.
I blame Konsa for the goal, it was a stupid pass to Luiz.
Nyland is a very decent goalkeeper, lets hope Danny Drinkdriver improves our midfield.
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The main contribution the kid made was to run around a lot, a bit like an irritating fly to Leicester’s defenders, which was probably enough to at least annoy them at that stage in the game.
Don’t think you have to be mystic meg to work out Kodja not sick and it’s highly unlikely he’ll play for Villa again, thanks for the one good season Kodj and goodnight!
Taylor defended well tonight, but cannot cross a ball to save his life. It’s a tricky one with this system as I think Targett has got a really good final ball, just not sure he can huff his way back up the field when the shape reverts to a 5 man defence.
Anyway whatever the result against Man City, two huge games after v Brighton and Watford before the next semi final, could be season defining few weeks if we get another forward in as well.
Perhaps we could play them both and sacrifice one of the Luiz/Nakamba or AEG/Trez combinations. We'd be adding to the defence and the attack whilst removing 25% of the guaranteed clangers that we will inevitably drop.
Not a bad shout actually, Trez not offering that much at the moment.
In cold light of day this morning, we have just got a very credible draw at what is currently the 2nd best team in the country, a team that won’t the league 3 and a bit years ago, got to the champions league QF 2 and a bit years ago and has a couple of comfortable top ten finishes since. If we’d drawn with Man City away last night we’d all be raving.
Given all that I think it’ll still be backs to the wall on the 28th and we may have to play like the away side again, but we’ve given ourselves a chance.
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Completely convinced that Suso went to Bruges and spent £30m on two average looking players when Smith wanted Maupay and Phillips.
On that, it would have cost us £70m rather than £30m. Given FFP, it's not bad money.
Nakamba started really well, but perhaps needs a break.
£70m?
I'm sure that £50m was the sort of number being quoted. Even if it was £30m it would still be an expensive upgrade.
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Great post Quinton, especially your last paragraph (not sure about the Nakamba comment though)
Great result last night. Would have taken 1-1 before the game and would take the same result in the league game to come.
Talking about the problem with Taylor as a wingback is just stating the obvious. There's no sense piling into the guy because I'm sure he and Deano realise it themselves. What is relevant is that he's doing it for the team and that team came away with a great result.
Luiz at the moment has too many mistakes in him, which has cost us especially in the league. I still feel he may be better coming off the bench. I'm hoping he will come good but that may be next season. Monopoly City won't be buying him back any time soon on current form.
Really pleased for Nyland and Mings is a colossus and is rightly being talked about as a great Villa centre half in the same breath as Mellberg, Laursen, Evans, McNaught etc.
Keep up the good work Villa!
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To quote Lambo, I thought we were excellent! Leicester are a really good team and we managed to set up and defend in a manner that nullified their most potent threats for most of the game. Considering a lot of our players are new to this league, or that we didn't have a striker or our first choice keeper and are generally patched up and limping a bit, we did a fantastic job.
The other thing was that after the league game with Leicester, apparently some of our players were a bit shellshocked and you can sort of see that in the results that followed. Hopefully this gives us a bit of pride and swagger back.
One big effort at Villa Park and who knows. Up the Villa.
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We do give the ball away too easily and all of our problems stem from this.
I blame Konsa for the goal, it was a stupid pass to Luiz.
Nyland is a very decent goalkeeper, lets hope Danny Drinkdriver improves our midfield.
I don't blame Konsa too much for the goal. Clearly at the point he got booked he's gesturing to the players that no-one made the run he was expecting (which I assume is the instruction he has from the manager for free-kicks in that area). Then, after being booked Luiz shows for a short pass to get us moving again. He's in about 10 yards of space when he calls for the ball, and still has 5 yards when he takes his first touch (which is terrible), all while slowing down and letting Choudary get close. A first-time pass back to Konsa to recycle possession and it never happens. A better first-touch and it never happens.
Yes, Konsa could have just thrown the free-kick up front, or put it in the channel where no-one had run, but for a team that's supposed to be comfortable on the ball, a fifteen-yard pass to a midfielder under no pressure when the pass is made should NOT lead to a goal.
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We do give the ball away too easily and all of our problems stem from this.
I blame Konsa for the goal, it was a stupid pass to Luiz.
Nyland is a very decent goalkeeper, lets hope Danny Drinkdriver improves our midfield.
I don't blame Konsa too much for the goal. Clearly at the point he got booked he's gesturing to the players that no-one made the run he was expecting (which I assume is the instruction he has from the manager for free-kicks in that area). Then, after being booked Luiz shows for a short pass to get us moving again. He's in about 10 yards of space when he calls for the ball, and still has 5 yards when he takes his first touch (which is terrible), all while slowing down and letting Choudary get close. A first-time pass back to Konsa to recycle possession and it never happens. A better first-touch and it never happens.
Yes, Konsa could have just thrown the free-kick up front, or put it in the channel where no-one had run, but for a team that's supposed to be comfortable on the ball, a fifteen-yard pass to a midfielder under no pressure when the pass is made should NOT lead to a goal.
I get what you're saying but if Luiz had passed it back to Konsa then the chances are that he would have just hit it forward anyway as he'd have been put under pressure. So to me he may aswell have just played it forward in the first place. We hadn't been near their area for ages either so play it right up to the edge of the box and hope for a flick on and who knows or even just try and win a throw high up the pitch and break their attacking up.
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We do give the ball away too easily and all of our problems stem from this.
I blame Konsa for the goal, it was a stupid pass to Luiz.
Nyland is a very decent goalkeeper, lets hope Danny Drinkdriver improves our midfield.
I don't blame Konsa too much for the goal. Clearly at the point he got booked he's gesturing to the players that no-one made the run he was expecting (which I assume is the instruction he has from the manager for free-kicks in that area). Then, after being booked Luiz shows for a short pass to get us moving again. He's in about 10 yards of space when he calls for the ball, and still has 5 yards when he takes his first touch (which is terrible), all while slowing down and letting Choudary get close. A first-time pass back to Konsa to recycle possession and it never happens. A better first-touch and it never happens.
Yes, Konsa could have just thrown the free-kick up front, or put it in the channel where no-one had run, but for a team that's supposed to be comfortable on the ball, a fifteen-yard pass to a midfielder under no pressure when the pass is made should NOT lead to a goal.
I get what you're saying but if Luiz had passed it back to Konsa then the chances are that he would have just hit it forward anyway as he'd have been put under pressure. So to me he may aswell have just played it forward in the first place. We hadn't been near their area for ages either so play it right up to the edge of the box and hope for a flick on and who knows or even just try and win a throw high up the pitch and break their attacking up.
My understanding is that's not the way Dean wants us to play. And we didn't have a recognised forward to aim for, either. Look at the number of seemingly pointless short passes Man City make, back and forth, going nowhere. The point of doing that is that everyone else is moving around, and in the second or two Konsa got between passing and getting it back, who knows what would have developed in front of him. Maybe nothing, and it ends up a long ball anyway. Maybe something else. But we recycle that possession in the hope something better turns up.
I might be wrong, obviously, and Konsa's instructions were to play it longer regardless of options in front of him, but it doesn't feel like that's the way the team is sent out to play these days.
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We do give the ball away too easily and all of our problems stem from this.
I blame Konsa for the goal, it was a stupid pass to Luiz.
Nyland is a very decent goalkeeper, lets hope Danny Drinkdriver improves our midfield.
I don't blame Konsa too much for the goal. Clearly at the point he got booked he's gesturing to the players that no-one made the run he was expecting (which I assume is the instruction he has from the manager for free-kicks in that area). Then, after being booked Luiz shows for a short pass to get us moving again. He's in about 10 yards of space when he calls for the ball, and still has 5 yards when he takes his first touch (which is terrible), all while slowing down and letting Choudary get close. A first-time pass back to Konsa to recycle possession and it never happens. A better first-touch and it never happens.
Yes, Konsa could have just thrown the free-kick up front, or put it in the channel where no-one had run, but for a team that's supposed to be comfortable on the ball, a fifteen-yard pass to a midfielder under no pressure when the pass is made should NOT lead to a goal.
I get what you're saying but if Luiz had passed it back to Konsa then the chances are that he would have just hit it forward anyway as he'd have been put under pressure. So to me he may aswell have just played it forward in the first place. We hadn't been near their area for ages either so play it right up to the edge of the box and hope for a flick on and who knows or even just try and win a throw high up the pitch and break their attacking up.
There's fault on both players, but for me Luiz is the main culprit. The slackness in the touch and awareness is something he's making a bad habit of too.
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Great all round team performance, most of Leicester's best opportunities came form slack play on our part. We've given ourselves a chance.
Marvellous just doesn't have the composure for the pace of game here. I'm convinced, other than having little of no attack, most of problems are in that central midfield area.
Mings was immense & dishing out bollockings left right & centre, including Jack.
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I've not been to bed yet after getting back from the game last night so proud of the lad's but the fact we are still in with a chance makes me proud of them they were great one loss of concentration cost us a goal but I will forgive that after the way we played and a big shout out to my fellow Villa Fans we were tremendous last night I just want us to beat them at Villa Park in the return leg.
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Brilliant away day. But, by god, do Leicester plod turn up for every game like they're expecting full-scale nuclear war?
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Brilliant away day. But, by god, do Leicester plod turn up for every game like they're expecting full-scale nuclear war?
They do when we're there, always been a history of trouble between us and Leicester. I remember a lot of aggro before the last cup game we played there including a pub being smashed up. I expect the police presence to be massive for the 2nd leg aswell with 4200 of their fans and a lot at stake on the pitch.
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Brilliant away day. But, by god, do Leicester plod turn up for every game like they're expecting full-scale nuclear war?
I met our kid at the Hinkley Knight at the end of the A5 before the game. When I pulled up a coach was parked, and it was a group of ours, about 30 lads. There was no noise or singing, a few lads playing pool, and then after about 15 minutes a police wagon turned up and they stayed the whole time we were there.
It was very odd.
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Brilliant away day. But, by god, do Leicester plod turn up for every game like they're expecting full-scale nuclear war?
They do when we're there, always been a history of trouble between us and Leicester. I remember a lot of aggro before the last cup game we played there including a pub being smashed up. I expect the police presence to be massive for the 2nd leg aswell with 4200 of their fans and a lot at stake on the pitch.
The Football Ground Guide made for interesting reading. Seems they're a bit heavy-handed whoever's in town: clicky (https://www.footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/premier-league/king-power-stadium-leicester-city.html#awhat-is-it-like-for-visiting-supporters)
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I can accept the backs against the walls defending - Leicester ripped us one when we tried to play openly against them. If you'd offered me 1-1 at Leicester beforehand I'd have taken it faster than a tramp on chips. Great result and should boost belief in the squad after the dust of a lack of focus leading to the goal settles.
I think with 2 systems now (and a striker or 2) I'm pretty hopeful for the rest of the season. Play a bit more defensively against the top sides and we will probably stop leaking goals through protecting the defense more. A quick striker would give us a real outlet when defending deep.
I think I'd put as much blame on Luiz as Konza - he was really dawdling.
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I mean WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
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I mean WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
Oh my fucking lord. That's disgraceful
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Anyone who thought Taylor defended well perhaps only saw live at the match without replays and the big picture.
Clear to see he was out of position several times and their was a notable attack by Ricardo Pereira where he went round him and was able to put it into the penalty box very easily.
Also several times was exposed and allowed for Leicester players to have attacks down that left side.
Vardy , Madison both had chances first half all with Taylor poor positions
Similarly there was some space on right side where Guilbert defending but no one as bad as Taylor .
Definitely some work needs to be done by Villa for the full back positions and understanding that role.
I can only see Mahrez or Bernardo enjoying all day long playing against Taylor on Sunday and being allowed to cut in to have shots a plenty.
For me Taylor isn't suited to a wing back role as he's a passenger going forward and has no sense of how to be attacking .
Good luck to him and nice chap but he's really weak player all round and I find it ever so concerning.
Funnily enough found Taylor bearable and adept as a general left back in the main this season however he struggles so much in this 3-5-2 and offers nothing as an option .
Taylor played well END OF. Try supporting your own players - we drew against 2nd best team in the country no one deserves any negative comments from last night's performance . All players (Like Luiz) make mistakes - its a massive learning curve for all the young inexperienced players at this level. Get behind the team and bin your negativity. Now Wesley is out back to Taylor for the main scapegoat! I suppose you want Taylor out and Targett back in because he is so much better at defending than Taylor lol
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that ricardo is a hell of a player
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I mean WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
Oh order me one !!!!
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(https://i.ibb.co/FhSThWF/FB-IMG-1578576016718.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FhSThWF)
I mean WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
Oh order me one !!!!
That's what I call a proper half scarf!
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outside of Grealish none of our midfield or forward players can keep possession or pass a ball under even small amounts of pressure
that's why you got the goal mistake thing but it was happening all over the pitch in every area by most of the players
defence were fantastic that's why we got the result,
but we really have to get better in the midfield and forward area's hopefully a few new signings will help because most of the sqaud really aren't up to it or good enough
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I've just seen the goals. Fucking hell! What the fuck?
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Perhaps Nakamba and Loiz playing along side each other puts the wind up both of them. Each lacking confidence in the other. Alongside a solid experienced player each of them would almost certainly improve and re-gain confidence more quickly. They played ok together at the beginning of the season but have perhaps each lost confidence in the other since.
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Anyone who thought Taylor defended well perhaps only saw live at the match without replays and the big picture.
Clear to see he was out of position several times and their was a notable attack by Ricardo Pereira where he went round him and was able to put it into the penalty box very easily.
Also several times was exposed and allowed for Leicester players to have attacks down that left side.
Vardy , Madison both had chances first half all with Taylor poor positions
Similarly there was some space on right side where Guilbert defending but no one as bad as Taylor .
Definitely some work needs to be done by Villa for the full back positions and understanding that role.
I can only see Mahrez or Bernardo enjoying all day long playing against Taylor on Sunday and being allowed to cut in to have shots a plenty.
For me Taylor isn't suited to a wing back role as he's a passenger going forward and has no sense of how to be attacking .
Good luck to him and nice chap but he's really weak player all round and I find it ever so concerning.
Funnily enough found Taylor bearable and adept as a general left back in the main this season however he struggles so much in this 3-5-2 and offers nothing as an option .
Taylor played well END OF. Try supporting your own players - we drew against 2nd best team in the country no one deserves any negative comments from last night's performance . All players (Like Luiz) make mistakes - its a massive learning curve for all the young inexperienced players at this level. Get behind the team and bin your negativity. Now Wesley is out back to Taylor for the main scapegoat! I suppose you want Taylor out and Targett back in because he is so much better at defending than Taylor lol
Taylor did ok at best. A very limited ok at that. I think 'played well' is stretching it, but ok, that's your opinion.
Try understanding that others may have a different view to your own.
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And not being such a dick at the same time.
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Taylor did ok last night. But if we're playing 5 at the back we need a fullbacks to be much better going forward than he is.
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Perhaps Nakamba and Loiz playing along side each other puts the wind up both of them. Each lacking confidence in the other. Alongside a solid experienced player each of them would almost certainly improve and re-gain confidence more quickly. They played ok together at the beginning of the season but have perhaps each lost confidence in the other since.
I do think we have good players in Nakamba, Loiz and Wes, however they have all struggled with life here, probably due to lots of reasons, lifestyle, they are young but especially the pace and the strength of the game here. Jack struggled at times before we were relegated, but he's a beast now. He is so powerful as well as gifted with that balance and poise.
I just think we need to be a bit patient with these players. I was really really impressed with Nakamba at the start of the season and Loiz looked very composed too. For us to playing these two as the heart of the midfield is a risky strategy, but these two are better than anyone else we have at the moment. I like Conor but again he struggles when we are under pressure. The least said about Lansbury the better.
We have just been week in the squad in areas which are far too important at this level, centre of midfield up front. Hopefully with a little tinkering in the transfer market we'll just have enough to survive this season.
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Some heroic defending last night; Tyrone and Nyland magnificent. Jack showing great control and "nous" when bringing the ball out of defence. So pleased we did not capitulate after the equaliser.
Am looking forward to being in the pub with some Leicester season ticket holders tomorrow. I'll have to explain that if they come to VP they will be entering a proper football ground; not a identikit stadium from IKEA. I'll warn them to leave those bloody clappers at home; we'll be at a semi-final not a kids' party.
Let's get the place rocking.
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I mean WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
My eyes!
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Hi Ian. Cheers. That's my point really. They're young. I'm sure they'll improve and may be great Villa players in due course like Jack, but they need someone with more nous to give them more direction and confidence on the pitch and game time with that player at this stage.
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Perhaps Nakamba and Loiz playing along side each other puts the wind up both of them. Each lacking confidence in the other. Alongside a solid experienced player each of them would almost certainly improve and re-gain confidence more quickly. They played ok together at the beginning of the season but have perhaps each lost confidence in the other since.
I do think we have good players in Nakamba, Loiz and Wes, however they have all struggled with life here, probably due to lots of reasons, lifestyle, they are young but especially the pace and the strength of the game here. Jack struggled at times before we were relegated, but he's a beast now. He is so powerful as well as gifted with that balance and poise.
I just think we need to be a bit patient with these players. I was really really impressed with Nakamba at the start of the season and Loiz looked very composed too. For us to playing these two as the heart of the midfield is a risky strategy, but these two are better than anyone else we have at the moment. I like Conor but again he struggles when we are under pressure. The least said about Lansbury the better.
We have just been week in the squad in areas which are far too important at this level, centre of midfield up front. Hopefully with a little tinkering in the transfer market we'll just have enough to survive this season.
This.
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Hi Ian. Cheers. That's my point really. They're young. I'm sure they'll improve and may be great Villa players in due course like Jack, but they need someone with more nous to give them more direction and confidence on the pitch and game time with that player at this stage.
Hello HL, I just hope Drinkwater is fit enough and can capture that form from a few years ago. If he can that might just do the trick.
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I mean WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
My eyes!
I’d like one, as long as says Aston V. somewhere?
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I mean WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.
My eyes!
I’d like one, as long as says Aston V. somewhere?
I love Aston V. They’re my favourite T.
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On the few occasions we had the ball, it looked more like Smith's Brentford side. The play was more crisp than I've seen before.
I hope we see more of that.
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Just bought my tickets for the second leg...£25 in the Upper Holte is a bargain. I’m pretty sure etickets always come straight through but haven’t received anything. Anyone else had problems?
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Just bought my tickets for the second leg...£25 in the Upper Holte is a bargain. I’m pretty sure etickets always come straight through but haven’t received anything. Anyone else had problems?
Check your spam...
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Anyone any idea when we're likely to get the extended highlights?
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Anyone any idea when we're likely to get the extended highlights?
Toni and Guy?
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Anyone any idea when we're likely to get the extended highlights?
Toni and Guy?
I fucking wish, mate!
Anyway, found them.
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Missed Kodjia tonight
And you missed your medication !!!
Whoosh!
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Heroic defensive performance; I hope Nyland won't be frozen out by any loan 'keeper moves -he's earned his chance, and Jed will be back soon, anyway.
I hope DD settles quickly! Oh, and being able to start one of those striker-thingies would be good.