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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on December 04, 2019, 06:30:49 PM
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Abraham back for them. So the only match he missed was a match we wanted them to win, great.
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Konsa deserves to retain his place and I like the Nakamba/Luiz switch.
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So our Dean did Frank 3 times last season but not tonight as Frank now has about 5x better players.
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lets hope SJM has got plenty of energy . We will need him on his game.
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Amazon dredging the barrel for studio pundits with savage being there. Who cares what he thinks the loathsome slug.
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We'll need McGinn fully at the races tonight for us to come away with anything.
Wesley needs to do more than run around with no chance of actually getting the ball, maybe scoring a goal or two?
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I would have been tempted to rest McGinn tonight. Need to get amongst them and stop the supply to Tammy. UTV
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Win please.
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I would have been tempted to rest McGinn tonight. Need to get amongst them and stop the supply to Tammy. UTV
My patience run out with SJM...dropped from my dream team....I won’t mind if he does come up with a couple of assists or goals and we win though !👍🏻 Come on villa
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Amazon dredging the barrel for studio pundits with savage being there. Who cares what he thinks the loathsome slug.
And Joe Cole. The little rat.
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And Sherwood! The banter promises to be ‘incredible’.
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Amazon dredging the barrel for studio pundits with savage being there. Who cares what he thinks the loathsome slug.
And Joe Cole. The little rat.
Harsh, Joe always seems to come across a quite a decent bloke, unless there's something I've missed?
Savage however, is an irredeemable spunk trumpet.
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Come on you Villa boys!
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Amazon dredging the barrel for studio pundits with savage being there. Who cares what he thinks the loathsome slug.
And Joe Cole. The little rat.
Harsh, Joe always seems to come across a quite a decent bloke, unless there's something I've missed?
Savage however, is an irredeemable spunk trumpet.
I'm sure he's a smashing bloke, and I know his time with us was insignificant, but I wouldn't mind a little nod in our direction inbetween the ra ra chelseaing. I certainly supported him to the hilt when he trotted out for us.
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Amazon dredging the barrel for studio pundits with savage being there. Who cares what he thinks the loathsome slug.
And Joe Cole. The little rat.
Harsh, Joe always seems to come across a quite a decent bloke, unless there's something I've missed?
Savage however, is an irredeemable spunk trumpet.
I'm sure he's a smashing bloke, and I know his time with us was insignificant, but I wouldn't mind a little nod in our direction inbetween the ra ra chelseaing. I certainly supported him to the hilt when he trotted out for us.
Ok, fair enough, I get where you're coming from now.
The shit, I never liked him.
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Father-in-law is a Chavski season ticket holder who can't keep his mouth shut, desperate for some kind of result to make Christmas tolerable.
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Amazon dredging the barrel for studio pundits with savage being there. Who cares what he thinks the loathsome slug.
And Joe Cole. The little rat.
Harsh, Joe always seems to come across a quite a decent bloke, unless there's something I've missed?
Savage however, is an irredeemable spunk trumpet.
I'm sure he's a smashing bloke, and I know his time with us was insignificant, but I wouldn't mind a little nod in our direction inbetween the ra ra chelseaing. I certainly supported him to the hilt when he trotted out for us.
Ok, fair enough, I get where you're coming from now.
The shit, I never liked him.
And I'm watching you, Gary Cahill.
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I thought he never quite got to the top speeds of a trot.
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Half and half scarf!!!!.......in the home end thank god. Abomination
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Anyone notice? Villa star player gets close to fitness fails fitness test. Opposition star player gets close to fitness passes fitness test. I honestly think Abraham will be the difference now.
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Anyone notice? Villa star player gets close to fitness fails fitness test. Opposition star player gets close to fitness passes fitness test. I honestly think Abraham will be the difference now.
Not sure he’s fit could be heart ruling his head.....I hope.
Get big Tyrone to put an initial reducer in.
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Anyone notice? Villa star player gets close to fitness fails fitness test. Opposition star player gets close to fitness passes fitness test. I honestly think Abraham will be the difference now.
I've said this before. Villa player "doubtful" = won't play. Opposition player "doubtful" = will definitely play and, most likely, score.
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Heaton with a decent save
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Tammy with an airshot thankfully
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Does Trezeguet realise the match has kicked off or...?
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Quietest match thread ever. 10 mins in and still on page 2 after 2 comments during the game. Well 3 with this one.
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Great defending elmo
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Tammy with an airshot thankfully
Rubbish defending from Elmo and Mings.
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Page 1.
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Jack fouled, there's a shock.
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Quietest match thread ever. 10 mins in and still on page 2 after 2 comments during the game. Well 3 with this one.
Wonder if people are assuming the usual 7.45pm.
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I'd take a draw.
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Quietest match thread ever. 10 mins in and still on page 2 after 2 comments during the game. Well 3 with this one.
Wonder if people are assuming the usual 7.45pm.
It caught me out.
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Jack fouled and nothing given
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How is that not a body check?
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Mickey Droy is a right dirty fcuker.
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Referee would have had to book the Chelsea player so chose to bottle it instead.
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SJM keeping his cool... should have been booked
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Playing against twelve men already.
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Ref a bit of a homer?
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Villa fans making a racket.
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Ref a bit of a homer?
I think so.
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Sloppy at the back again
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Ref a bit of a homer?
He just let SJM off with what should probably have been a yellow card.
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They're all over us at the moment.
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Defence is looking sloppy.
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I'm watching this with no commentary so at least I haven't got some French ex-pro wanking over Chelsea all game.
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Mings gives it away again
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'Sake Mings.
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Why did the Liverpool badge just appear in the corner of the screen? Subliminal gloryhunting bellends.
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Need to survive this first half. Think we'll get chances in the second but Chelsea are miles better than Man. United so going to be a tough night.
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This isn't great
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Look a bit too open in midfield. I would play Douglas and Marvellous in away games like this, with one of McGinn or Hourihane in front of them. The latter in particular just looks so slow playing against this level of opposition.
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Tammy scores
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Pretty scrappy from us at the moment. They’re gaining confidence
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Abraham the most predictable goalscorer of the night, 1-0.
Long night ahead I fear.
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Shit!
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That was coming. Dreadful defending.
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Getting overrun in midfield, and Marv looks well off the pace. Need another body in midfield.
Shit. Tammy scores. It was coming.
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Been coming. We're not in this at all
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The award for the least unpredictable goal of the season goes to...
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Free header in that position is piss poor
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Always thought Tammy was a dick.
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Utter shit defending from konsa there. It's been coming
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This formation ain’t working Dean. Get Wes off and Jack in the middle.
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Awful defending, where the fucking hell were Mings and Konsa?
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All over the place on our left
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We look dreadfully passive. No intensity.
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Knew I shouldn’t have sold him
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Defense shit
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We've offered nothing going forward so far apart from that one run from Jack
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Crap from Konsa tbh.
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Is Wesley playing?
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Let’s start playing some football!
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Poor communication between Konsa and Elmo. Konsa tried to play offside Elmo stayed back.
We need to get higher up the pitch and get some possession or this will be a long 90 minutes.
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Our press isn't very good tonight.
Whatever that means.
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Elmo looks very poor at this level.
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Two games running Konsa. Appealing rather than trying to stop the attacker.
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Our press isn't very good tonight.
Whatever that means.
We're not setting enough traps.
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Konsa having a bit of a mare so far
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Long evening at the Bridge at the moment.
Very one paced like the Wolves game.
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Awful defending, where the fucking hell were Mings and Konsa?
Mings was correctly marking Mount, Konsa was playing sleeping lions.
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Fucking careless. Wake the fuck up.
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Can’t believe Konsa just stopped to appeal and let Tammy run last him
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This is a totally inept performance so far.....could Mings be any lazier right now?
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Has Trez touched the ball yet?
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Southampton beating Norwich so they'll be on 15 points if that result holds.
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An attempt on goal!
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Is Wesley playing?
Who?
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All over the place on our left
Yup, I'd swap Taylor for Targett. The lad looks lost.
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Is Wesley playing?
He is running around out there
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Jack is probably the only outfield player you can say has played well so far.
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No movement and we’re miles off it at the moment.
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Has Trez touched the ball yet?
Answering my own question, twice. Rubbish.
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Why don't we try staying on our fucking feet?!
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Corner!
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Elmo off please, Konsa to right back, Engels in the back two, Trezeguet and Wesley off, replaced by a traffic cone and a shopping trolley fished out of a canal.
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There are a few that are just spectators
Wes Trez Hourihane
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We've bossed the last minute.
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Our press isn't very good tonight.
Whatever that means.
We're not setting enough traps.
Something something overloads.
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Corner!
And another!
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Why is my Amazon Prime 30 seconds behind? Have I only got Amazon Sub-Prime?
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Corner!
And another!
And another!
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Elmo off please, Konsa to right back, Engels in the back two, Trezeguet and Wesley off, replaced by a traffic cone and a shopping trolley fished out of a canal.
Elmo has been, arguably, our best player.
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Midfield and forwards invisible apart from Jack.
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Bit of a let off, Chelsea corner
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Why is my Amazon Prime 30 seconds behind? Have I only got Amazon Sub-Prime?
😂
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Games like this, you see why we need a striker to have to aim at and hold the ball up. He is not moving when we have the ball.
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Look at the prick behind Jack in the corner, was just mouthing off at him constantly.
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Trez anonymous.
Dreadful ball retention by the team generally.
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Klopp resting half his team v Everton, Salah, Firmino and Henderson on the bench. Got a feeling Everton will pick up a point.
Even when we start pick up points we can't escape the bottom end of the league or even put much daylight, frustrating aspect of the season for me.
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Fucking hell Villa.
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Crying out loud Hourihane.
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Why is my Amazon Prime 30 seconds behind? Have I only got Amazon Sub-Prime?
You're the lucky one, it's a good minute for pretty much everyone else!
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You scamp, Jack.
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We're getting a bit annoyed and narky, see it it works as trying to football hasn't so far
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Wheels coming off
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Silky stuff from trezeguet with his first touch of the game.
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We did some mad skills so the referee found a free kick to give them. It was dead good for a bit.
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Would put Luiz on at HT. Not sure who to take off but we need to be far harder to be played through than we have been so far.
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Too many players not giving 100% tonight. Conor and Marv need a kick up the arse or hooked.
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Just me or is this referee fucking useless?
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Some shocking performances out there Dean needs to change this
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Sheer muck from Hourihane
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Not in this at a wolves level.
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Just me or is this referee fucking useless?
It's not just you, mate.
(Though the odd replay to check would be nice).
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There's a few of them that could have no complaints if they get the hook.
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Amazon through my TV is 50 seconds behind Amazon on my laptop.
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Send him off.
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This is going to be a sobering evening.
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I bet there are no changes at halftime.
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Just me or is this referee fucking useless?
Yes bottle ING it
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I bet there are no changes at halftime.
Incorrect, I'm switching to Netflix.
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I bet there are no changes at halftime.
Yup, he's a little shy in that department.
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Just me or is this referee fucking useless?
No he’s a referee.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Too many players not giving 100% tonight. Conor and Marv need a kick up the arse or hooked.
Bit harsh. They are trying but Chelsea are just moving the ball around so well, it happens.
West Ham were lucky buggers at the weekend, faced a Chelsea team that had Tammy out and for some reason Kante was only a sub.
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1-1! Trez.
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Brilliant goal!!!!!
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YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS
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ÝYYYYYÈEEEEREESSSSSSSDDDSSSSSSSS
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Get the fuci in!
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Goooaaaaaallll
(Possibly)
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Great goal, lovely build up and a superb cross.
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Yessssss
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Brilliant goal!!!!!
I had faith in you Risso. You played a blinder.
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Nothing wrong with that. Better count.
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Blimey.
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Southampton 2-0.
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Foot like a traction engine after he'd been denied with a header Gray in his prime would have been proud of.
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Grealish involved and great cross
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Lovely goal that
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I'll take that you jammy bastard!
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Great one-two from Trez's head to his shin!
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Really excellent build up play then.
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Fantastic build up to that goal.
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After being anonymous
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Get the fuck.
Still spoiled by VAR.
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Goal or not?
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Shocking hourihane
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Fucking get in
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Goal or not?
Goal
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Lovely football in the build up to our goal
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I've lost my stream
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Well we pressed them and they kicked the ball into touch.
Strung 4 passes together and scored. Need to stop showing them too much respect.
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Really excellent build up play then.
Yep, we kept it in the final third, were patient, a couple of nice one-touch passes, some great movement and a great cross. If Wes had nodded into the top corner it'd be goal of the month contender...
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Finally a yellow
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2 mins added time
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We done a goal!!!
We’re still very much in this...yet 10 minutes ago I would have said we’d be lucky to be only 1-0 down at half time.
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Been a better few minutes. Hourihane for Douglas needs to happen at half-time.
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Goal or not?
Goal
Great. I was using H&V as teletext.
Flash scores app knocked the goal off.
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The passes from Grealish and Mcginn before the cross were superb, moved the ball really quickly and opened them up.
I think the bit of niggle has helped us, woke us up somewhat.
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SJM’s hackles are up
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God Wesley is so painful to watch. A two yard pass he messes up
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We did not deserve that goal even a little bit, but fuck it, good to get some luck for a change.
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HT.
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That'll do, not a great half, but level, so hopefully we do more second half.
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HT.
Not on Prime it isnt
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Great cross by Elmo for the goal
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Dean Smith having a word with the useless referee at HT.
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God Wesley is so painful to watch. A two yard pass he messes up
He is worse than paying with 10 men. A total liability. Give him off HT Dean.
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1-1 is a bit of daylight robbery tbh but we'll take it.
I just hope that goal dosen't give DS false security. If we change nothing Chelsea will just come out and put us on the edge of our own box again. I'd get Luiz on.
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Wesley is fucking shit.
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Way to much space for rhem on our wings, thought we were poor but our goal was well worked, ref is a massive homer.
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1-1 is a bit of daylight robbery tbh but we'll take it.
I just hope that goal dosen't give DS false security. If we change nothing Chelsea will just come out and put us on the edge of our own box again. I'd get Luiz on.
Luiz for Hourihane makes a lot of sense.
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Hourihane has been poor.
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Prime is about 40 seconds behind live
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Maybe you should be using spoilers because of the Amazon crowd.
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Luis for Wes and get Jack in the middle.
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Chelsea dominating but we're helping them by giving the ball away too much. Our one quality bit of interplay resulted in a goal. Conor's not been on it tonight so far. Wesley a total passenger again.
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HT
Chelsea started strong and look decent on the break, not surprised Tammy scored but we looked more of a threat as the half went on.
Great build up play for our goal and a lucky finish from Trez.
Ref is gash.
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Hourihane has been poor.
Agreed. I'd hook him and bring Luiz on
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HT.
Not on Prime it isnt
Don't you have Platinum Prime?
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Right now we are up to 12th but only one point above the relegation zone! Bizarre
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That's absolutely fucking woeful defending by Everton.
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After 15 league games we've only gone in at HT behind twice.
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Playing with Wesley isn't like playing with 10 men IT IS playing with 10 men. The guy has no redeemable skills whatsoever.
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Right now we are up to 12th but only one point above the relegation zone! Bizarre
Until Liverpool just scored of course...
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I've switched from watching it on TV to laptop.
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Luis for Wes and get Jack in the middle.
Or put Kodjia on. Main thing get Wes off.
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Goal aside that was as bad as the Wolves first half. No-one's come out of that half with credit other than Elmo and Heaton. Big let off being level. Step it up second half and let's win it.
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Foul count 11-4 to Chelsea and Mount's been booked too.
Ref needs to get a grip 2nd half.
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Right now we are up to 12th but only one point above the relegation zone! Bizarre
Looking at the table or even acknowledging it at HT has to be the most pointless, waste of time ever.
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That pass from Jack to McGinn in the lead up the goal....
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Taking wesley off at HT wont help his confidence, but... we cant be sentimental and he is offering nothing again. Bring kodj on.
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Well done Trez.
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Mings got back like Usain Bolt after that Conor fuck up.
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Don't know how we are level as we have been dreadful. Elmo has been motm so far.
Wesley and hourihane have been really garbage.
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Christ almighty, these pundits at half time are appalling.
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Kodjia can just be as in and out. Can get hold of the ball then lose it when not passing.
Tough half for Wes very little quality service to his feet.
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Smith needs to take Wesley off. He's offering nothing. His confidence is shot. Surely Kodjia can offer more ??
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Mings got back like Usain Bolt after that Conor fuck up.
Ha, I thought the same, I didn't realise he was so quick.
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Smith needs to take Wesley off. He's offering nothing. His confidence is shot. Surely Kodjia can offer more ??
As crushingly mediocre as Kodjia is, yes he can offer more.
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Great cross by Elmo for the goal
Has been very good in first half . Our best along with Mings.
We gave them far too much respect early on and only started playing after they scored. Great team goal, Grealish key really , has got us back in the game. McGinn and Nakamba have picked up a lot last 15 mins turning midfield into a battle.
Konsa was dreadful for their goal. Hourihane has been average, almost a very costly possession on edge of their box before half time. Before Trez goal, I would have said we were playing with nine men but he gets into the box and has scored again. Wes really offers nothing at all.
Great chance for us here, they are quite nervy and inexperienced. Luiz is an option now that the game is opening up.
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Dean won’t make a change at half time. He should but I’d be amazed if he did.
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After 15 league games we've only gone in at HT behind twice.
Someone did a league table in which it showed positions based on halftime results we were 2nd.
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Conor has been poor. Perhaps Luiz on instead? Ref is so weak. How is the twat allowing all these fouls? Several from behind that deserve a yellow card. Tammy made a bad tackle on Conor - not even a yellow!
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Conor has been poor. Perhaps Luiz on instead? Ref is so weak. How is the twat allowing all these fouls? Several from behind that deserve a yellow card. Tammy made a bad tackle on Conor - not even a yellow!
He could easily have booked Jack and SJM too.
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Liverpool reserves destroying Everton.
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2-1 Mount
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fucking hell
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Another cheap goal to give away.
2-1. Mount.
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Do fuck off
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That was in fairness an excellent goal. Tammy playing the role of a proper centre forward
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Bollocks. Somebody should have tackled Willian.
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Feck
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Fuck. Shit. Bolx.
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Not such a shit Jack Grealish, while we play defensive statues
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See that lay off from Abraham Dean? That’s not happening with Wesley.
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Awful defending. I like Hotlips but he has been total gash today so far.
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Fucking hell, we have been utter shit.
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Shite defending again. Far far too easy.
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Oh dear Villa. Oh dear.
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Fucking hell, we have been utter shit.
Give your head a wobble
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Mings up to his antics.
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Great goal. I think we’ve had our chips tonight as Dean doesn’t have the nouse to change things.
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Mings playing drunk again. Please tell him he's only a good ball playing CB in the championship.
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Fuck me we are sloppy at times
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Gone to absolute shit.
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Jesus fucking Christ Mings.
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McGinn not doing marking there
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Why the fuck do we play so scared so frequently?
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Another Mings brain fart
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A really poor performance all round so far
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Hourihane and Target have been absolutely shit, again Smith has watched the first half and done fuck all about it.
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Targett poor tonight too. Afraid to put a tackle in.
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Think konsa will get Christmas off after this showing.
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Good fucking grief Elmo. What in fucks name was that?
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Jack’s been OK, Heaton pretty good, no one else has covered themselves in glory
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What has Kodija got to do to get a nudge? We need something different. This is dreadful.
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The commentator barely managing to contain his glee.
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Happens to often, starting the second half shit.
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Why the fuck do we play so scared so frequently?
We've played very well in the last two games. Chelsea are just better, it tends to happen at this level.
We need to have our first 11 out all the time in this league to look really good, blow to lose Gullibert and AEG but that's what happens at this time of the year.
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Fucks sake SJM
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Nearly 3-1
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3-1 and will certainly be game over. Need to be switched on for next ten minutes as Chelsea will go for the knock out blow.
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Hourihane powder puff resistance on cross, Konsa owned by Abraham again
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This is utter shit. Should have been 3.
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We are a one man team.
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Hourihane walking around ‘defending’
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Willian is destroying us
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Change it Smith.
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I think we should try to play down the other end
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We are third best in a game with two teams.
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Make a sub Dean, this is fucking awful.
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Hourihane walking around ‘defending’
Yeah needs fucking off asap .
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Obviously Wes and Trez (goal aside) have been v quiet so far, but SJM, Conor and Nakamba have been shit too
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Wesley off, Hourihane off please.
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Ok corral time.
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Make a god damn fidgeting mofoing change. And shut these fidgeting commentators up. It’s like they are spunking in their pants every time Chelsea get the ball.
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Luiz coming on now.
Should've happened at HT but no way of knowing if it would've prevented the goal. Would've likely stopped the siege on our goal that has happened since their second.
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My fucking stream is shit.
Could it be because I'm on Sky fibre....
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Why isn’t he changing anything?
How does he think this is working?
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Luiz on for Hotlips
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Jesus Dean you are really taking the piss. No good a sub at 3.1
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Get up Wesley.
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Make a sub Dean, this is fucking awful.
He won’t unless he absolutely has to. Which I just don’t get.
Happy birthday by the way Risso
Edit: as I say that Hourihane off for Luiz which was needed.
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Hourihane off. Not his game with lack of set pieces.
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We’re effectively playing with 10 men, Wesley offers absolutely nothing at all.
And now he’s injured.
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Wesley diving now.
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Chelsea all over us. We could get a proper dicking if we're not careful. FFS change it Deano
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Tammy instrumental in both goals. We have Wesley instead
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Hourihane has had a shocker.
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Being beasted here by a better side. Grealish currently insignificant - Smith needs to look away changes.
Wesley is not making an impact at all.
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Luiz for Hourihane. Should have happened at HT
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I love Dean Smith but I genuinely wonder why he waited till minute 58 to change it round. Could have been a lot worse than 2-1
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Half time subs might have stopped their second.
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Don't know how we are level as we have been dreadful. Elmo has been motm so far.
Wesley and hourihane have been really garbage.
I don't know why people are having a go at Wesley. The only time he's seeing the ball is when it gets lumped up to him with 3 defenders all over him.
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We’re effectively playing with 10 men, Wesley offers absolutely nothing at all.
Agree, but he is totally isolated.
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Can you imagine Wesley and Joelinton up front for Brazil in a world cup?
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Chelsea finding so much time and space making the pitch look large compared to it being so small when we have the ball.
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Don't know how we are level as we have been dreadful. Elmo has been motm so far.
Wesley and hourihane have been really garbage.
I don't know why people are having a go at Wesley. The only time he's seeing the ball is when it gets lumped up to him with 3 defenders all over him.
Agreed. Not sure anyone could do much with that.
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We’ve been dreadful this half.
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Somehow holding on to 2-1
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Great save Heaton.
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Our entire midfield has had a fucking mare. It’s like they have many extra bodies in there
Great save by Heaton. They are going to score at least one more tonight. At least
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Miracle we aren't 3-1 down.
It is coming.
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Andy Townsend has been pretty fair in his assessment
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This is like The Alamo.
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Someone needs to put one on Willian soon.
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I’m watching this with mute on now. Those commentators actually are in love with Chelsea.
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Willian is just ripping us apart
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We have absolutely no out ball to any player when we’re under the cosh. Constant pressure.
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they look they have 3 extra men
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If we can rescue a point out of this I’d be delighted.
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Willian looking class tonight
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Willian has given us nightmares all night. Best player on the park by a mile.
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Half decent move
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Great save Heaton. Keeps us in with a chance.
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Lovely ball in from Jack.
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This is just utter shite. Sorry Dean.
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I’m watching this with mute on now. Those commentators actually are in love with Chelsea.
You know you can turn the commentary off and just get crowd noise
I am watching Liverpool Everton. I can’t watch us when we’re like this.
Everton are getting dicked
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Targett booked
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Yes Willian is running the show. Worryingly McGinn has been very quiet again and has been for a few games now
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It’s a dreadful performance from us tonight. An “anus horribilis”
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Great ball in from Jack, Wesley missed his flick header. That’s the type of half chance he never seems to get on the end of.
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Targett booked
daft booking
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Dean please do us all a fucking favour and take that waste of space Wesley off. For all his faults there is no way in hell Kodjia could be this poor for the remaining 25 mins.
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63 mins and Wes still on. Bonkers.
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Shit cross
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This has to be close to worst display this season
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Dean please do us all a fucking favour and take that waste of space Wesley off. For all his faults there is no way in hell Kodjia could be this poor for the remaining 25 mins.
At least Kodjia can play football.
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Jota getting ready
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We're not completely out of this yet.
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Cannot believe we took the risk of going into the season with this bloke as our only viable striker.
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Wesley is so slow to react..... his awareness is crap
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Targett booked
daft booking
Daft player.
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We've got McGinn, ordinary John McGinn.
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Bad day at the office.
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Too many Villa players getting muscled out of it.
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Set some traps villa
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Bad day at the office.
really basic stuff though
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We've got McGinn, ordinary John McGinn.
I’m starting to think you understand
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wasted opportunity
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It’s a dreadful performance from us tonight. An “anus horribilis”
I think you will find the correct word is “temporis horribilis”
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Better last 10 minutes.
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Better.
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Better. We can still get something from this because at the back Chelsea aren’t great. But you have to think they will score again.
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Why didn't Jack make a run then?
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Pac-Man scores for Norwich.
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Fuck sake Luiz.
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Chelsea are going to miss a shedload of chances and we'll get a late equaliser.
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Come on Villa
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This has to be close to worst display this season
That was Wolves so far.
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Lucky Tyrone
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Nice little shove from Mings.
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This has to be close to worst display this season
The way Chelsea are playing, I think it would be for almost all teams.
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We've got McGinn, ordinary John McGinn.
I’m starting to think you understand
Playing well and scoring for Scotland vs Cyprus and for Villa vs Chelsea or PL games in general. He is a very good player but with lots to learn, and he needs a break from the manager. You can’t play like he does and maintain that energy level all season,
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Take.Wesley.OFF!!!!!!11111111111111
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Luiz has looked good so far.
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This has to be close to worst display this season
The way Chelsea are playing, I think it would be for almost all teams.
Yep, as infuriating as it is to have to admit, they have been very good.
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Is McGinn close to 5 yellows. Think he does need a rest but only way it will happen is when he's suspended. Certainly dipped from his very impressive early season form.
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Fucking hell. Tammy should have made that 3-1
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This has to be close to worst display this season
That was Wolves so far.
Wolves was easily worst than this
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Just slow. One of those nights where nothing works at all.
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Should have been 3.
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Liverpool 4-1.
Marco Silva to Bootle job centre in the morning.
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We will win fuck all under Dean unless he can do the basic use of subs. Shame as I like the guy.
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Chelsea are going to miss a shedload of chances and we'll get a late equaliser.
Great!!
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Chelsea’s movement especially through Willian is just frightening at times.
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Oh for a centre forward.
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Why is Wesley still on the pitch?
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Could be worse we could be Everton
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Corner
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Pretty sure they said on WM Jota was coming on ten minutes ago, still getting instructions!
We're not even quick with subs when we actually decide to make them.
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They should be 3 or 4 ahead.
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Jota on Trez off
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Luiz has looked good so far.
He’s a good looking lad.
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Would've kept Trez on, he can score. Jota on anyway.
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Grealish still insignificant
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Jota coming on in these positions doesn't tend to work out very well.
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Been unable to watch the stream... buffer buffer
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Konsa. Another who can have the day off Sunday I’d have thought.
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Konsa’s been poor. I’d shuffle Engels back in next game
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Konsa resembling a lump in this game overall.
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I’m watching Willian and thinking why couldn’t we have got a Brazilian that actually played like a Brazilian? Like when we got Cuellar who was the least technical player to come from Spain ever at a time when Spain were rolling great ones off a conveyor belt dominating world football.
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Another let off
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Jota coming on in these positions doesn't tend to work out very well.
He's just too slow. Chelsea have outdone us for pace all game.
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It's a learning experience
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We should be about 6 down.
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In Wesley we’ve acquired the only twenty something Brazilian male on the planet with no discernible football ability.
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Smith took off our best player on the pitch by a mile, excellent sub dum dum.
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In Wesley we’ve acquired the only twenty something Brazilian male on the planet with no discernible football ability.
He is utter, utter, utter shite.
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Konsa having a tough game tonight
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We should be about 6 down.
They've had 7 shots on target.
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And they go close again, Heaton saves
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Good fucking lord. How is still 2-1?
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How has our defence turned to trifle? We've been error-prone at the back this season but not generally this bloody porous and frantic
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Jesus
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Willian off the bar.
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Smith took off our best player on the pitch by a mile, excellent sub dum dum.
Dum dum? Really?
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In Wesley we’ve acquired the only twenty something Brazilian male on the planet with no discernible football ability.
He is utter, utter, utter shite.
Come on Wes, if you can't score after that....
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I’m watching Willian and thinking why couldn’t we have got a Brazilian that actually played like a Brazilian? Like when we got Cuellar who was the least technical player to come from Spain ever at a time when Spain were rolling great ones off a conveyor belt dominating world football.
Willian was playing in CL for years for Shakthar Donestk and had Brazil caps when Chelsea signed him in 2013. Been a great player for them.
As much as our young player signing policy is admirable and working eventually we'll have to sign an experienced international or two if we want to make a bigger leap up the lead.
Anyway Heaton been MOTM by a mile, great save onto the post from Willian FK.
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Targett you clogger.
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What a save Heaton.
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Fuck me this could have been double figures
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We haven't had a shot in the second half.
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We should be about 6 down.
But were not.
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Great save from Heaton
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Mings ffs
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Kinell
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Mings....*shakes head*
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Fucking hell Mings. You are not Baresi. Stop acting the massive big bollocks twat.
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Was it Elmo nodded it back to heaton? Fair play for anticipating that and staying calm.
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Targett is absolute bollocks. Couldn’t get a look in at Southampton, and it shows.
Where the feck is Hause?!
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In Wesley we’ve acquired the only twenty something Brazilian male on the planet with no discernible football ability.
I posted similar in the last match thread. How is he still on the pitch?
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The best news all night is Tammy coming off
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Dum dum is quite correct in relation to substitutes.
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Bloody hell, we've been more rubbish tonight than I thought we would be.
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Tyrone you donkey!
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Just looking at Man. United-Spurs stats btw. Man. United had 7 shots on target, Spurs just the one.
It's a pretty mind boggling premier league this season, nothing much about it making sense.
Batsuhayi on for Tammy.
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Watch Batshuayi run rings around us now.
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Sounds like I’m in the minority but I don’t think Targett’s been too bad. I’d say Mings, konsa, midfield worse
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Targett is absolute bollocks. Couldn’t get a look in at Southampton, and it shows.
Where the feck is Hause?!
Fucked out of the squad for Neil Taylor.
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Great save Heaton. We've been utterly shambolic at times tonight. Fancy us to rob a point!
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Sounds like I’m in the minority but I don’t think Targett’s been too bad. I’d say Mings, konsa, midfield worse
Agreed
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Fucking hell Mings. You are not Baresi. Stop acting the massive big bollocks twat.
Think England call up has got to his head. Or Southgate told him he got in the squad because he could play out from the back so he's using every chance to do it now instead of just whacking it clear.
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Jota = Meh
Not the player you need chasing a game
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Rode our luck this half big time.
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Corner
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Wesley has absolutely no predatory instinct in the box at all:
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A couple of half chances
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Konsa has been poor
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Mings is having a shocker.
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To be fair, I’d have taken 2-1. I wasn’t expecting us to win here tonight. But the lack of bollocks is so frustrating.
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Hudson Odoi on for Pulisic.
Surely we've got to throw Kodj on?
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Sounds like I’m in the minority but I don’t think Targett’s been too bad. I’d say Mings, konsa, midfield worse
Yeah I'd agree with that
Come on Villa
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Targett is absolute bollocks. Couldn’t get a look in at Southampton, and it shows.
Where the feck is Hause?!
Fucked out of the squad for Neil Taylor.
A future episode ready made for Arthur C Clarke
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The one player you didn't want it to fall to there. I'd have Heaton under half volleys before Elmo.
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Unlucky Elmo
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Engels must come back in for Konsa on Sunday. Saying that, Tyrone better up his game as well because Vardy will rip us a new one.
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They’re going to fuck us over on the break
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West Ham, Wolves and Everton all losing so not the worst night elsewhere. Finishing 2-2 in Southampton game would be ideal aswell.
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Wesley is fucking passenger
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Wes. What a fuckin joke.
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Imagine being as fortunate as Wesley in gainful employment. If I was as bad at a job which really, let's be honest, has an incredibly narrow spec and set of criteria, I'd expect to be pulled into a meeting and handed my marching orders.
Wesley, however, doesn't even get subbed. Ever. Baffling.
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Struggling to think of anyone who’s had a good game. Heaton?
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A lot of harsh comments on Villa players tonight. Okay we've had a bad night but Chelsea have been decent and its still only 2-1.
Wesley is the only player that would get stick from me.
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Bring on a sub Dean. Do something!
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Wesley, what a waste of a shirt.
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How Kodjia hasn’t had time on the pitch is unbelievable.
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Kante showing us that while Nakamba is one of our better players, he's still got a long way to go.
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I still think we can level this match Chelsea are looking spent (hopefully)
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Luiz played well since he came on. Interested what we do in that area v Leicester given how strong they are atm.
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Not been Jack's night at all tonight.
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Amazing we are still in this
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Close!
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Nearly 2-2 there. Kepa with his first save of the half.
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Kante showing us that while Nakamba is one of our better players, he's still got a long way to go.
To be fair Kante is probably the best player in the world in that position. Plus he's had plenty of Premier league experience.
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Luiz is a great player.
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West Ham, Wolves and Everton all losing so not the worst night elsewhere. Finishing 2-2 in Southampton game would be ideal aswell.
A Southampton goal would certainly do my both teams to score acca the power of good.
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Holy fuck how did Kepa keep that out?
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So close!
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And all pressure lost
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Targett you wanker.
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Times up on Wesley, time for Kodjia to start on Sunday.
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Struggling to think of anyone who’s had a good game. Heaton?
Elmo probably comes out with more credit than most.
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4 mins added time
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West Ham, Wolves and Everton all losing so not the worst night elsewhere. Finishing 2-2 in Southampton game would be ideal aswell.
A Southampton goal would certainly do my both teams to score acca the power of good.
It's 2-1 so you're fine in that match...?
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I really want Wesley to be our star man but he's awful, I can't remember him having one good touch all game. We definitely need to buy a striker in January.
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Can we have a SCORCHIO then the FT whistle please?
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Even if Kodjia’s a spent force after his injuries, why not try him for 10 mins?
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4 minutes added on.
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Kante showing us that while Nakamba is one of our better players, he's still got a long way to go.
To be fair Kante is probably the best player in the world in that position. Plus hes had plenty of Premier league experience.
Yeah, I didn't mean to slag. But Kante has been brilliant tonight.
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Dean Smith absolutely infuriates me on nights like this.
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I've tried to steer clear of the Wesley criticism, but, really, he offers absolutely nothing. To describe him as a passenger is generous
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I've tried to steer clear of the Wesley criticism, but, really, he offers absolutely nothing. To describe him as a passenger is generous
It’s taken until December, but this is where I am too!
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How has Wesley stayed on? Kodjia has some faults but surely he had to come on at least to try something different
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Stupid fouls to give away with time running out.
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Villa support still loud and proud
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West Ham, Wolves and Everton all losing so not the worst night elsewhere. Finishing 2-2 in Southampton game would be ideal aswell.
A Southampton goal would certainly do my both teams to score acca the power of good.
It's 2-1 so you're fine in that match...?
Sorry, I'm confusing myself. I also have a draws trixie. Need Watford & West Ham for the BTTS!
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All 6 games tonight are home wins as it stands.
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Smith won't, but God, Wesley's crying out for the bench. Kodjia would be as much of a threat, and we've all seen him score at least once even if it's a lower league.
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Kante showing us that while Nakamba is one of our better players, he's still got a long way to go.
To be fair Kante is probably the best player in the world in that position. Plus hes had plenty of Premier league experience.
Yeah, I didn't mean to slag. But Kante has been brilliant tonight.
One one of my none Villa favourite players.
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Bring Taylor on. I don't fucking know. Something. Dean!
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We've been so crap at keeping the ball.
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We’ve deceptively looked good the last few minutes to mask our overall shitness
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how many of our players would get in their team. One I suspect, JG
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Get Wes off.
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Full time.
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Amazon commentary team bricking it over the thought of an equaliser.
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And that is that
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Full time. Wank.
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Get Wes off.
That will still be applicable in the post match thread
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What a shit freekick