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Title: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on December 02, 2019, 02:39:02 PM
No rest for the wicked, eyes down for another tricky away fixture.  Be nice to see Tammy again, but hope he has a stinker.


I think it'll be another draw, 1-1.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: AV82EC on December 02, 2019, 02:55:34 PM
No rest for the wicked, eyes down for another tricky away fixture.  Be nice to see Tammy again, but hope he has a stinker.


I think it'll be another draw, 1-1.

Will Tammy be fit to play?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 02, 2019, 02:56:39 PM
They’re a bit shaky right now. I like our chances. 2-1 Villa - McGinn and Wes
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on December 02, 2019, 02:57:23 PM
Hopefully Tammy will still be injured.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on December 02, 2019, 03:01:14 PM
Draw I think
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 02, 2019, 03:13:25 PM
Surely if Lampard repeats his play-off final 'success' we'll win?  :P
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 02, 2019, 03:15:08 PM
I'll settle for maintaining our run of form against teams managed by Lampard.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Small Rodent on December 02, 2019, 03:48:30 PM
Out of the tunnel the players trot,
Maybe they'll win, maybe not,
if they win I'll shout and cheer,
if they lose I'll boo and jeer.

Thank you
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: manic-road on December 02, 2019, 03:59:59 PM
1-1 might need to freshen our midfield up a bit for this one.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 02, 2019, 04:52:59 PM
Its a second game in a few days for them also and they lost to Wet Spam without even testing the keeper (although if the media was to be believed the 33 year old Rookie had a stormer  ::))

Without Tammy they looked very sluggish

I actually fancy us to do ok here and take the next step to actually beating one of the sky wanked over teams.

Like Brucey before him maybe our Dean has the sign over Lampard and has outthought him already in 3 games as manager with an aggregate score of 9-1

Looking forward to it already - win this and Sundays game will be a cracker
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on December 02, 2019, 04:55:46 PM
I think we'll be beaten unfortunately. 2-0 them.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 02, 2019, 04:57:58 PM
As those are our only 3 games against Lampard how did Bruce have the sign over him?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Flin5tone on December 02, 2019, 05:01:10 PM
tough one this , if Dean can sort out his in game management we might get something,we got lucky against a woeful Man U team.he needs to get some subs on earlier and the right ones.

1-1 again
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 02, 2019, 05:03:31 PM
Again? Last time we drew 1-1 was at Leeds.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: CJ on December 02, 2019, 06:17:26 PM
I'd be happy with another draw. Bit of an early kick-off time - presumably because it's being shown on Amazon Prime
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on December 02, 2019, 06:30:17 PM
Again? Last time we drew 1-1 was at Leeds.
Apparently our game on Sunday ended 1-1 according to a respectable and  reliable source.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on December 02, 2019, 06:37:25 PM
D 1-1.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 02, 2019, 10:29:50 PM
Heaton, Elmo, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Nakamba, Lansbury, Hourihane, Trez, Wes, Jack.

In two minds re Konsa, poor yesterday but his pace is useful playing a high line. Tight call with Engels for that slot. Nakamba simply has to come back into midfield for me. Luiz is not doing enough for me and McGinn is struggling. Don't rate Lansbury much but if he could put in 60mins then a fully fired up McGinn to go at them for last 30mins plus would be great.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on December 02, 2019, 11:09:59 PM
Tough one this. They are better than Man Utd currently. Could of also done without them losing at home on Saturday as difficult to see them losing two at home in a week. Would take a draw all day. McGinn is looking jaded, but don’t think Lansbury the answer, agree with bringing Nakamba back though.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 02, 2019, 11:13:35 PM
Sounds like Tammy will be back. Typical for us that the only game he missed was against one of our rivals.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 03, 2019, 12:02:42 AM
3-1 defeat.

Think Chelsea's attacking players will be too much more so if Tammy returns. Gulibert certainly out and AEG probably won't make it so we won't be at full strength either.

Think we'll get a draw v Leicester though.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on December 03, 2019, 05:53:49 AM
We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: sid1964 on December 03, 2019, 06:50:06 AM
Just dont lose, i cannot stand Chelsea.!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on December 03, 2019, 09:22:00 AM
We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.

Bit early to be on the Montrachet!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: in exile on December 03, 2019, 10:01:13 AM
Score draw (that's as brave as I'm gonna get)
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on December 03, 2019, 10:08:20 AM
2-2
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on December 03, 2019, 10:30:32 AM
We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
I love the French tradition of indulging in a little brandy before breakfast.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: postal on December 03, 2019, 10:56:34 AM
We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
I love the French tradition of indulging in a little brandy before breakfast.

Maybe start with Kodjia and leave Wesley on the bench. He is a liability and I dont mean his header on Sunday that "gifted" ManUtd a goal. His header could have gone anywhere. He just cant shoot, or run with the ball. At least Kodjia can shoot and run.

He reminds me of that Beatles/ Ringo quote, I'll paraphase.
"Wesley isnt the best forward in the world… Let’s face it, he wasnt even the best forward for Villa at ManUtd”

I'd rather have Hourihane upfront - Wesley is that bad
And no, I havent been drinking  ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Bad English on December 03, 2019, 11:11:07 AM
Good afterble consternoon!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on December 03, 2019, 11:14:00 AM
2-1 Chelsea with them scoring in the fifth min of extra time after we have had two disallowed by VAR.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: DrGonzo on December 03, 2019, 11:19:41 AM
Oooooo my vote for draw made the scores level at 14...  I think a lot depends on Tammy's fitness, do you think he'll throw a sickie for us?  They don't look as mobile without him, I'd rather they play Batshuyai any day of the week.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: usav on December 03, 2019, 01:07:12 PM
I think we are a few days too late and they had their slip against Wet Spam.  Can't see them losing two at home in a row.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 03, 2019, 01:13:07 PM
As those are our only 3 games against Lampard how did Bruce have the sign over him?

Apologies

poorly written

Like Dean has had the tactical advantage over the likes of Bruce previously I wonder if he has the same over lampard due to previous 3 games
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on December 03, 2019, 01:21:45 PM
As those are our only 3 games against Lampard how did Bruce have the sign over him?

Apologies

poorly written

Like Dean has had the tactical advantage over the likes of Bruce previously I wonder if he has the same over lampard due to previous 3 games
Not as badly written as the poll Question. Only Dean (or not Dean)can repeat the managerial success of the play off final. Fwank and "neither" have no success to repeat.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: darren woolley on December 03, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
Looking forward to going to this I said a draw against Man Utd so I will say the same against Chelsea we will get a 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 03, 2019, 01:40:38 PM
We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.

Bit early to be on the Montrachet!

A win would make it a nice birthday for you Risso
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Demitri_C on December 03, 2019, 02:22:21 PM
If Tammy plays he deserves a superb reception from our fans.

Tammy was superb for us. We owe him one.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 03, 2019, 02:35:08 PM
This game is live on Amazon Prime, if you don't have Prime but have an Amazon account it's worth checking if you have the option to do a free 30 day trial.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 03, 2019, 02:35:39 PM
As those are our only 3 games against Lampard how did Bruce have the sign over him?

Apologies

poorly written

Like Dean has had the tactical advantage over the likes of Bruce previously I wonder if he has the same over lampard due to previous 3 games

Ah got you. Let's hope so.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Dr Butler on December 03, 2019, 03:13:37 PM
a draw from me too, but if we can (and that is a big IF) keep a clean sheet I can see us winning this as we certainly have a goal threat.


UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 03, 2019, 03:27:26 PM
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Drummond on December 03, 2019, 04:57:58 PM
The BBC LIve Update page basically has that press conference as,

'Dean how wonderful it is that Terry is going back to the Bridge',
'Yes he's great for us, will be  top manager'

And three pages on fucking Liverpool. I hate the BBC more and more.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Small Rodent on December 03, 2019, 06:09:31 PM
This game is live on Amazon Prime, if you don't have Prime but have an Amazon account it's worth checking if you have the option to do a free 30 day trial.

And the Boxing Day game.

Just remember to cancel at 30 days!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 03, 2019, 06:40:32 PM
When I did the trial in the past you could cancel it as soon as you had started it which was a good way not to forget!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on December 03, 2019, 06:43:57 PM
I don't think the trial period is free any more.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on December 03, 2019, 08:07:28 PM
I don't think the trial period is free any more.
99P and only for a week.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: olaftab on December 03, 2019, 08:08:23 PM
I think we are a few days too late and they had their slip against Wet Spam.  Can't see them losing two at home in a row.
This is where I am as well.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 03, 2019, 08:28:19 PM
I'm going this one and just to let you all know  I've not seen Villa lose away from home in 5 years. Yep, 5 years and 2 matches. A pretty impressive record, I'm sure you'll agree.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TheMalandro on December 03, 2019, 08:32:59 PM
The BBC LIve Update page basically has that press conference as,

'Dean how wonderful it is that Terry is going back to the Bridge',
'Yes he's great for us, will be  top manager'

And three pages on fucking Liverpool. I hate the BBC more and more.

I had to switch that off. You have to admire Smith not saying something about it.
It must be very frustrating.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 03, 2019, 11:38:25 PM
The BBC LIve Update page basically has that press conference as,

'Dean how wonderful it is that Terry is going back to the Bridge',
'Yes he's great for us, will be  top manager'

And three pages on fucking Liverpool. I hate the BBC more and more.

Surprised they didn't get in a dig at Corbyn...
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on December 03, 2019, 11:44:14 PM
Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 03, 2019, 11:54:43 PM


Enjoyed the ballsy answer to the 'Grealish to XYZ?' question. Essentially he said 'our owners are minted. He loves the Villa. You can all fuck off.'
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on December 03, 2019, 11:58:53 PM
Haven't Chelsea been better away from home this season?  Their defence looks like they can be got at, I don't think a point is out of the question.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 04, 2019, 12:31:28 AM
Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?

I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥

Sorry.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: purpletrousers on December 04, 2019, 02:19:10 AM
Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?

I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥

Sorry.

It’s not irrelevant as it’s talking about BBC bias, citing another (correctly IMO) perceived example of it.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on December 04, 2019, 02:48:41 AM
Chelsea probably slight favourites, but if we can hit the same form as last weekend then we have nothing to fear. Should be another entertaining game to watch. Tough one to predict- I’m going 2-2 again.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on December 04, 2019, 07:04:10 AM
I haven't really seen that much of Chelsea this season but I don't think a big win against one of the top few sides is too far away. If we go their with the same belief we did on Sunday, then who knows.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on December 04, 2019, 07:18:30 AM
Come on Villa boys. A quick start and an early goal (or two?) And they will lose confidence very quickly especially having lost to west spam at the weekend. Thanks Tammy for everything, but if you play no goals against the Villa please! UTV!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Mouse Potato on December 04, 2019, 08:13:25 AM
Chelsea probably slight favourites, but if we can hit the same form as last weekend then we have nothing to fear. Should be another entertaining game to watch. Tough one to predict- I’m going 2-2 again.

Get your money on then, Chelsea are not slight favourites, they are massive favourites.  You can get 10-1 on Villa to win and 5-1 the draw.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on December 04, 2019, 08:56:00 AM
Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?

I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥

Sorry.

It’s not irrelevant as it’s talking about BBC bias, citing another (correctly IMO) perceived example of it.
FFS, people see what they want to see.  Just leave politics out of it.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: themossman on December 04, 2019, 09:05:47 AM
Can we have the other interview where John Terry gets asked about Dean’s career prospects for 4 minutes?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on December 04, 2019, 09:07:35 AM
I’m shit at betting, which is why I don’t usually do it. Surprised at the draw being 5-1. Might be worth a look? It must be difficult for the bookies this season with so many changes in managers and squads. I’ll admit I haven’t paid much attention to the premiership in the time we were down, but seems a few more topsy turvy results than I remember used to happen. Just my perception (as usual) and not based on any kind of stat research. Take Man City and Liverpool out of the reckoning and its as if any side can beat any of the other sides in the league if they are on it that day. The league seems more competitive than a few years back.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on December 04, 2019, 09:52:37 AM
I haven't really seen that much of Chelsea this season but I don't think a big win against one of the top few sides is too far away. If we go their with the same belief we did on Sunday, then who knows.
And we tend to be better under flood-lights.

#graspingatstraws
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 04, 2019, 10:35:51 AM
I’m shit at betting, which is why I don’t usually do it. Surprised at the draw being 5-1. Might be worth a look? It must be difficult for the bookies this season with so many changes in managers and squads. I’ll admit I haven’t paid much attention to the premiership in the time we were down, but seems a few more topsy turvy results than I remember used to happen. Just my perception (as usual) and not based on any kind of stat research. Take Man City and Liverpool out of the reckoning and its as if any side can beat any of the other sides in the league if they are on it that day. The league seems more competitive than a few years back.

Competitive definitely as United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea have fallen back to the pack. A long way in the case of the first two. The quality of the division as a whole is poor though. Norwich without investing are still competitive which really shouldn't be the case. Leeds and West Brom, from what I've seen would easily hold their own this season in the top division. Little difference between bottom 6 of the premier and top 6 of championship.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 04, 2019, 11:14:15 AM
I don't think the trial period is free any more.

Ive just got it - the picture is a bit red button but you get replays :)
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: chrisw1 on December 04, 2019, 11:17:29 AM
I'm sure the usual streams will be available.  Look up Footystreams on twitter.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: mallo on December 04, 2019, 11:19:41 AM
If Tammy is out I fancy a draw, otherwise I think they'll win.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on December 04, 2019, 11:19:45 AM
Palace are fifth after two wins. Two games before this they were all moaning. Just shows how crazy this  league is.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on December 04, 2019, 11:20:51 AM
Chelsea have impressed me this season but I still think we can get something out of this game.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 04, 2019, 11:24:21 AM
Well it shows how crazy Palace fans are if they were moaning about not picking up much from the 5 game run of Man City, Arsenal, Leicester, Chelsea and Liverpool.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on December 04, 2019, 11:38:44 AM
I’m shit at betting, which is why I don’t usually do it. Surprised at the draw being 5-1. Might be worth a look? It must be difficult for the bookies this season with so many changes in managers and squads. I’ll admit I haven’t paid much attention to the premiership in the time we were down, but seems a few more topsy turvy results than I remember used to happen. Just my perception (as usual) and not based on any kind of stat research. Take Man City and Liverpool out of the reckoning and its as if any side can beat any of the other sides in the league if they are on it that day. The league seems more competitive than a few years back.

Competitive definitely as United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea have fallen back to the pack. A long way in the case of the first two. The quality of the division as a whole is poor though. Norwich without investing are still competitive which really shouldn't be the case. Leeds and West Brom, from what I've seen would easily hold their own this season in the top division. Little difference between bottom 6 of the premier and top 6 of championship.
as I recall, the majority of moaning about the PL used to be about the lack of competition and the stitch up by the ‘sky 4’. To me it seems the 4 have become 2 and I wouldn’t necessarily agree that the overall quality has deteriorated that much. But you may have a point. I’m just enjoying being back in this league again. VAR aside, it’s a good time to be back and mixing it with the best sides. I reckon the owners are fairly happy with how things are going also, with Deano getting his new deal. Don’t know the details of it, but think he’s probably earned it.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TheMalandro on December 04, 2019, 12:05:41 PM
How much does it cost to park your car behind the goal at Stamford Bridge  and are you allowed to stay in the car?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: TheMalandro on December 04, 2019, 12:17:44 PM
Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?

I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥

Sorry.

Corbyn deserves to be in a irrelevant politics thread.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on December 04, 2019, 12:44:31 PM
How much does it cost to park your car behind the goal at Stamford Bridge  and are you allowed to stay in the car?
first time I went to SB was as a student around ‘92. My mate had got us stewarding jobs (we thought). We thought they were playing Liverpool in the league cup (turned out be fkn Swindon). Anyway we rang the guy from a pay phone as instructed, but couldn’t get hold of him. As we we were there early and the gates were open, we thought fk it, let’s go in and watch the match. Remember being amazed at all the little blue cars parked behind the goal opposite the shed, in front of a crumbling, terrace overgrown with weeds.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: MalcolmP on December 04, 2019, 12:53:07 PM
We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
I love the French tradition of indulging in a little brandy before breakfast.

I'd rather have Hourihane upfront - Wesley is that bad
And no, I havent been drinking  ;D
NO HE ISN'T
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Diablo on December 04, 2019, 01:11:02 PM
Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?

I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥

Sorry.

It’s not irrelevant as it’s talking about BBC bias, citing another (correctly IMO) perceived example of it.
Agreed. The BBC is biased doo doo.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 04, 2019, 03:12:03 PM
Take a point now
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 04, 2019, 03:22:53 PM
Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?

I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥

Sorry.

It’s not irrelevant as it’s talking about BBC bias, citing another (correctly IMO) perceived example of it.
FFS, people see what they want to see.  Just leave politics out of it.

It's normally people with dodgy politics who say stuff like this.

I'm not suggesting that you personally hold similar views, but it got trotted out a lot by cricketers on rebel tours to apartheid South Africa.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on December 04, 2019, 04:32:56 PM
It's a strange feeling to be going to places like Old Trafford and Stamford Bridge and not expecting a total battering. It could still happen of course, that's football at this level. Heart ruling head i'm going for another 2-2.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: Mister E on December 04, 2019, 04:45:47 PM
I’m shit at betting, which is why I don’t usually do it. Surprised at the draw being 5-1. Might be worth a look? It must be difficult for the bookies this season with so many changes in managers and squads. I’ll admit I haven’t paid much attention to the premiership in the time we were down, but seems a few more topsy turvy results than I remember used to happen. Just my perception (as usual) and not based on any kind of stat research. Take Man City and Liverpool out of the reckoning and its as if any side can beat any of the other sides in the league if they are on it that day. The league seems more competitive than a few years back.

Competitive definitely as United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea have fallen back to the pack. A long way in the case of the first two. The quality of the division as a whole is poor though. Norwich without investing are still competitive which really shouldn't be the case. Leeds and West Brom, from what I've seen would easily hold their own this season in the top division. Little difference between bottom 6 of the premier and top 6 of championship.
We were certainly competitive against Liverpool on the day.

My main concern this evening is fitness levels ... however, Chelsea are definitely weak at CB and certainly weakened if Tammy is absent.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on December 04, 2019, 06:14:07 PM
It's normally people with dodgy politics who say stuff like this.

I'm not suggesting that you personally hold similar views, but it got trotted out a lot by cricketers on rebel tours to apartheid South Africa.

Mike Gatting described an anti-apartheid protest outside the team hotel as "just a bit of singing and dancing".
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa pre-match thread
Post by: The Edge on December 04, 2019, 06:32:24 PM
It's normally people with dodgy politics who say stuff like this.

I'm not suggesting that you personally hold similar views, but it got trotted out a lot by cricketers on rebel tours to apartheid South Africa.

Mike Gatting described an anti-apartheid protest outside the team hotel as "just a bit of singing and dancing".
These days Gatting et al would be calling it "bants"
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