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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Risso on December 02, 2019, 02:39:02 PM
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No rest for the wicked, eyes down for another tricky away fixture. Be nice to see Tammy again, but hope he has a stinker.
I think it'll be another draw, 1-1.
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No rest for the wicked, eyes down for another tricky away fixture. Be nice to see Tammy again, but hope he has a stinker.
I think it'll be another draw, 1-1.
Will Tammy be fit to play?
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They’re a bit shaky right now. I like our chances. 2-1 Villa - McGinn and Wes
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Hopefully Tammy will still be injured.
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Draw I think
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Surely if Lampard repeats his play-off final 'success' we'll win? :P
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I'll settle for maintaining our run of form against teams managed by Lampard.
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Out of the tunnel the players trot,
Maybe they'll win, maybe not,
if they win I'll shout and cheer,
if they lose I'll boo and jeer.
Thank you
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1-1 might need to freshen our midfield up a bit for this one.
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Its a second game in a few days for them also and they lost to Wet Spam without even testing the keeper (although if the media was to be believed the 33 year old Rookie had a stormer ::))
Without Tammy they looked very sluggish
I actually fancy us to do ok here and take the next step to actually beating one of the sky wanked over teams.
Like Brucey before him maybe our Dean has the sign over Lampard and has outthought him already in 3 games as manager with an aggregate score of 9-1
Looking forward to it already - win this and Sundays game will be a cracker
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I think we'll be beaten unfortunately. 2-0 them.
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As those are our only 3 games against Lampard how did Bruce have the sign over him?
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tough one this , if Dean can sort out his in game management we might get something,we got lucky against a woeful Man U team.he needs to get some subs on earlier and the right ones.
1-1 again
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Again? Last time we drew 1-1 was at Leeds.
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I'd be happy with another draw. Bit of an early kick-off time - presumably because it's being shown on Amazon Prime
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Again? Last time we drew 1-1 was at Leeds.
Apparently our game on Sunday ended 1-1 according to a respectable and reliable source.
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D 1-1.
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Heaton, Elmo, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Nakamba, Lansbury, Hourihane, Trez, Wes, Jack.
In two minds re Konsa, poor yesterday but his pace is useful playing a high line. Tight call with Engels for that slot. Nakamba simply has to come back into midfield for me. Luiz is not doing enough for me and McGinn is struggling. Don't rate Lansbury much but if he could put in 60mins then a fully fired up McGinn to go at them for last 30mins plus would be great.
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Tough one this. They are better than Man Utd currently. Could of also done without them losing at home on Saturday as difficult to see them losing two at home in a week. Would take a draw all day. McGinn is looking jaded, but don’t think Lansbury the answer, agree with bringing Nakamba back though.
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Sounds like Tammy will be back. Typical for us that the only game he missed was against one of our rivals.
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3-1 defeat.
Think Chelsea's attacking players will be too much more so if Tammy returns. Gulibert certainly out and AEG probably won't make it so we won't be at full strength either.
Think we'll get a draw v Leicester though.
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We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
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Just dont lose, i cannot stand Chelsea.!
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We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
Bit early to be on the Montrachet!
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Score draw (that's as brave as I'm gonna get)
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2-2
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We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
I love the French tradition of indulging in a little brandy before breakfast.
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We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
I love the French tradition of indulging in a little brandy before breakfast.
Maybe start with Kodjia and leave Wesley on the bench. He is a liability and I dont mean his header on Sunday that "gifted" ManUtd a goal. His header could have gone anywhere. He just cant shoot, or run with the ball. At least Kodjia can shoot and run.
He reminds me of that Beatles/ Ringo quote, I'll paraphase.
"Wesley isnt the best forward in the world… Let’s face it, he wasnt even the best forward for Villa at ManUtd”
I'd rather have Hourihane upfront - Wesley is that bad
And no, I havent been drinking ;D
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Good afterble consternoon!
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2-1 Chelsea with them scoring in the fifth min of extra time after we have had two disallowed by VAR.
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Oooooo my vote for draw made the scores level at 14... I think a lot depends on Tammy's fitness, do you think he'll throw a sickie for us? They don't look as mobile without him, I'd rather they play Batshuyai any day of the week.
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I think we are a few days too late and they had their slip against Wet Spam. Can't see them losing two at home in a row.
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As those are our only 3 games against Lampard how did Bruce have the sign over him?
Apologies
poorly written
Like Dean has had the tactical advantage over the likes of Bruce previously I wonder if he has the same over lampard due to previous 3 games
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As those are our only 3 games against Lampard how did Bruce have the sign over him?
Apologies
poorly written
Like Dean has had the tactical advantage over the likes of Bruce previously I wonder if he has the same over lampard due to previous 3 games
Not as badly written as the poll Question. Only Dean (or not Dean)can repeat the managerial success of the play off final. Fwank and "neither" have no success to repeat.
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Looking forward to going to this I said a draw against Man Utd so I will say the same against Chelsea we will get a 1-1 draw.
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We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
Bit early to be on the Montrachet!
A win would make it a nice birthday for you Risso
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If Tammy plays he deserves a superb reception from our fans.
Tammy was superb for us. We owe him one.
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This game is live on Amazon Prime, if you don't have Prime but have an Amazon account it's worth checking if you have the option to do a free 30 day trial.
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As those are our only 3 games against Lampard how did Bruce have the sign over him?
Apologies
poorly written
Like Dean has had the tactical advantage over the likes of Bruce previously I wonder if he has the same over lampard due to previous 3 games
Ah got you. Let's hope so.
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a draw from me too, but if we can (and that is a big IF) keep a clean sheet I can see us winning this as we certainly have a goal threat.
UTV
The Doc
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The BBC LIve Update page basically has that press conference as,
'Dean how wonderful it is that Terry is going back to the Bridge',
'Yes he's great for us, will be top manager'
And three pages on fucking Liverpool. I hate the BBC more and more.
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This game is live on Amazon Prime, if you don't have Prime but have an Amazon account it's worth checking if you have the option to do a free 30 day trial.
And the Boxing Day game.
Just remember to cancel at 30 days!
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When I did the trial in the past you could cancel it as soon as you had started it which was a good way not to forget!
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I don't think the trial period is free any more.
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I don't think the trial period is free any more.
99P and only for a week.
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I think we are a few days too late and they had their slip against Wet Spam. Can't see them losing two at home in a row.
This is where I am as well.
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I'm going this one and just to let you all know I've not seen Villa lose away from home in 5 years. Yep, 5 years and 2 matches. A pretty impressive record, I'm sure you'll agree.
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The BBC LIve Update page basically has that press conference as,
'Dean how wonderful it is that Terry is going back to the Bridge',
'Yes he's great for us, will be top manager'
And three pages on fucking Liverpool. I hate the BBC more and more.
I had to switch that off. You have to admire Smith not saying something about it.
It must be very frustrating.
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The BBC LIve Update page basically has that press conference as,
'Dean how wonderful it is that Terry is going back to the Bridge',
'Yes he's great for us, will be top manager'
And three pages on fucking Liverpool. I hate the BBC more and more.
Surprised they didn't get in a dig at Corbyn...
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Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?
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Enjoyed the ballsy answer to the 'Grealish to XYZ?' question. Essentially he said 'our owners are minted. He loves the Villa. You can all fuck off.'
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Haven't Chelsea been better away from home this season? Their defence looks like they can be got at, I don't think a point is out of the question.
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Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?
I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥
Sorry.
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Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?
I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥
Sorry.
It’s not irrelevant as it’s talking about BBC bias, citing another (correctly IMO) perceived example of it.
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Chelsea probably slight favourites, but if we can hit the same form as last weekend then we have nothing to fear. Should be another entertaining game to watch. Tough one to predict- I’m going 2-2 again.
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I haven't really seen that much of Chelsea this season but I don't think a big win against one of the top few sides is too far away. If we go their with the same belief we did on Sunday, then who knows.
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Come on Villa boys. A quick start and an early goal (or two?) And they will lose confidence very quickly especially having lost to west spam at the weekend. Thanks Tammy for everything, but if you play no goals against the Villa please! UTV!
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Chelsea probably slight favourites, but if we can hit the same form as last weekend then we have nothing to fear. Should be another entertaining game to watch. Tough one to predict- I’m going 2-2 again.
Get your money on then, Chelsea are not slight favourites, they are massive favourites. You can get 10-1 on Villa to win and 5-1 the draw.
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Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?
I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥
Sorry.
It’s not irrelevant as it’s talking about BBC bias, citing another (correctly IMO) perceived example of it.
FFS, people see what they want to see. Just leave politics out of it.
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Can we have the other interview where John Terry gets asked about Dean’s career prospects for 4 minutes?
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I’m shit at betting, which is why I don’t usually do it. Surprised at the draw being 5-1. Might be worth a look? It must be difficult for the bookies this season with so many changes in managers and squads. I’ll admit I haven’t paid much attention to the premiership in the time we were down, but seems a few more topsy turvy results than I remember used to happen. Just my perception (as usual) and not based on any kind of stat research. Take Man City and Liverpool out of the reckoning and its as if any side can beat any of the other sides in the league if they are on it that day. The league seems more competitive than a few years back.
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I haven't really seen that much of Chelsea this season but I don't think a big win against one of the top few sides is too far away. If we go their with the same belief we did on Sunday, then who knows.
And we tend to be better under flood-lights.
#graspingatstraws
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I’m shit at betting, which is why I don’t usually do it. Surprised at the draw being 5-1. Might be worth a look? It must be difficult for the bookies this season with so many changes in managers and squads. I’ll admit I haven’t paid much attention to the premiership in the time we were down, but seems a few more topsy turvy results than I remember used to happen. Just my perception (as usual) and not based on any kind of stat research. Take Man City and Liverpool out of the reckoning and its as if any side can beat any of the other sides in the league if they are on it that day. The league seems more competitive than a few years back.
Competitive definitely as United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea have fallen back to the pack. A long way in the case of the first two. The quality of the division as a whole is poor though. Norwich without investing are still competitive which really shouldn't be the case. Leeds and West Brom, from what I've seen would easily hold their own this season in the top division. Little difference between bottom 6 of the premier and top 6 of championship.
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I don't think the trial period is free any more.
Ive just got it - the picture is a bit red button but you get replays :)
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I'm sure the usual streams will be available. Look up Footystreams on twitter.
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If Tammy is out I fancy a draw, otherwise I think they'll win.
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Palace are fifth after two wins. Two games before this they were all moaning. Just shows how crazy this league is.
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Chelsea have impressed me this season but I still think we can get something out of this game.
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Well it shows how crazy Palace fans are if they were moaning about not picking up much from the 5 game run of Man City, Arsenal, Leicester, Chelsea and Liverpool.
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I’m shit at betting, which is why I don’t usually do it. Surprised at the draw being 5-1. Might be worth a look? It must be difficult for the bookies this season with so many changes in managers and squads. I’ll admit I haven’t paid much attention to the premiership in the time we were down, but seems a few more topsy turvy results than I remember used to happen. Just my perception (as usual) and not based on any kind of stat research. Take Man City and Liverpool out of the reckoning and its as if any side can beat any of the other sides in the league if they are on it that day. The league seems more competitive than a few years back.
Competitive definitely as United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea have fallen back to the pack. A long way in the case of the first two. The quality of the division as a whole is poor though. Norwich without investing are still competitive which really shouldn't be the case. Leeds and West Brom, from what I've seen would easily hold their own this season in the top division. Little difference between bottom 6 of the premier and top 6 of championship.
as I recall, the majority of moaning about the PL used to be about the lack of competition and the stitch up by the ‘sky 4’. To me it seems the 4 have become 2 and I wouldn’t necessarily agree that the overall quality has deteriorated that much. But you may have a point. I’m just enjoying being back in this league again. VAR aside, it’s a good time to be back and mixing it with the best sides. I reckon the owners are fairly happy with how things are going also, with Deano getting his new deal. Don’t know the details of it, but think he’s probably earned it.
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How much does it cost to park your car behind the goal at Stamford Bridge and are you allowed to stay in the car?
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Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?
I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥
Sorry.
Corbyn deserves to be in a irrelevant politics thread.
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How much does it cost to park your car behind the goal at Stamford Bridge and are you allowed to stay in the car?
first time I went to SB was as a student around ‘92. My mate had got us stewarding jobs (we thought). We thought they were playing Liverpool in the league cup (turned out be fkn Swindon). Anyway we rang the guy from a pay phone as instructed, but couldn’t get hold of him. As we we were there early and the gates were open, we thought fk it, let’s go in and watch the match. Remember being amazed at all the little blue cars parked behind the goal opposite the shed, in front of a crumbling, terrace overgrown with weeds.
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We go 1 up in the first half. Chelsea pull one back and it's all equal at the break. Two inspired substitutions from Dean at the ¾ mark and Wesley puts us ahead on 84 minutes. Dean brings on Kodjia and we see the game out. 3 points.
I love the French tradition of indulging in a little brandy before breakfast.
I'd rather have Hourihane upfront - Wesley is that bad
And no, I havent been drinking ;D
NO HE ISN'T
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Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?
I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥
Sorry.
It’s not irrelevant as it’s talking about BBC bias, citing another (correctly IMO) perceived example of it.
Agreed. The BBC is biased doo doo.
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Take a point now
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Do you really have to bring irrelevant politics into this thread?
I just wanted to join in the dig at the BBC. 😥
Sorry.
It’s not irrelevant as it’s talking about BBC bias, citing another (correctly IMO) perceived example of it.
FFS, people see what they want to see. Just leave politics out of it.
It's normally people with dodgy politics who say stuff like this.
I'm not suggesting that you personally hold similar views, but it got trotted out a lot by cricketers on rebel tours to apartheid South Africa.
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It's a strange feeling to be going to places like Old Trafford and Stamford Bridge and not expecting a total battering. It could still happen of course, that's football at this level. Heart ruling head i'm going for another 2-2.
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I’m shit at betting, which is why I don’t usually do it. Surprised at the draw being 5-1. Might be worth a look? It must be difficult for the bookies this season with so many changes in managers and squads. I’ll admit I haven’t paid much attention to the premiership in the time we were down, but seems a few more topsy turvy results than I remember used to happen. Just my perception (as usual) and not based on any kind of stat research. Take Man City and Liverpool out of the reckoning and its as if any side can beat any of the other sides in the league if they are on it that day. The league seems more competitive than a few years back.
Competitive definitely as United, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea have fallen back to the pack. A long way in the case of the first two. The quality of the division as a whole is poor though. Norwich without investing are still competitive which really shouldn't be the case. Leeds and West Brom, from what I've seen would easily hold their own this season in the top division. Little difference between bottom 6 of the premier and top 6 of championship.
We were certainly competitive against Liverpool on the day.
My main concern this evening is fitness levels ... however, Chelsea are definitely weak at CB and certainly weakened if Tammy is absent.
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It's normally people with dodgy politics who say stuff like this.
I'm not suggesting that you personally hold similar views, but it got trotted out a lot by cricketers on rebel tours to apartheid South Africa.
Mike Gatting described an anti-apartheid protest outside the team hotel as "just a bit of singing and dancing".
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It's normally people with dodgy politics who say stuff like this.
I'm not suggesting that you personally hold similar views, but it got trotted out a lot by cricketers on rebel tours to apartheid South Africa.
Mike Gatting described an anti-apartheid protest outside the team hotel as "just a bit of singing and dancing".
These days Gatting et al would be calling it "bants"