Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: SW9-VILLA on November 26, 2019, 10:22:44 AM
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On shortly
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Simon Jordan is talking about Villa at the moment.
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Love listening to Purslow he sounds genuinely smitten with our club. Fans, stadium, history, he just sounds proud as punch which is fantastic to hear. Simon Jordan is another one who seems to genuinely admire all things AVFC. Good time to be a Villa fan.
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Always like hearing Simon Jordan's opinion. I can see why he's not everyone's cup of tea but I think he gives a good insight into how people think at boardroom level.
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Always like hearing Simon Jordan's opinion. I can see why he's not everyone's cup of tea but I think he gives a good insight into how people think at boardroom level.
He likes us and despises the great unwashed so he’s always good by me 👍
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Always like hearing Simon Jordan's opinion. I can see why he's not everyone's cup of tea but I think he gives a good insight into how people think at boardroom level.
He likes us and despises the great unwashed so he’s always good by me 👍
that does help things along
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Anything interesting from the interview?
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Click me (https://talksport.com/football/634895/aston-villa-john-mcginn-jack-grealish-christian-purslow/)
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Always like hearing Simon Jordan's opinion. I can see why he's not everyone's cup of tea but I think he gives a good insight into how people think at boardroom level.
He likes us and despises the great unwashed so he’s always good by me 👍
He dislikes Sullivan, Gold, Brady and Bruce after Bruce was poached from Palace. During our summer of turmoil last year he spoke very well about Villa and does seem to have a soft spot for us. Listening to him talking about us on Talksport a couple of times around the time of our financial problems and rumoured takeover he appeared to have some insider knowledge of what was going on. At one point I strongly suspected he might even be involved.
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Click me (https://talksport.com/football/634895/aston-villa-john-mcginn-jack-grealish-christian-purslow/)
Thanks for the that. Nothing we haven't heard already but still positive. He's bang on about Jack.
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He's too smooth for my liking but good to hear him confirm NFS strategy.
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Good interview.
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Click me (https://talksport.com/football/634895/aston-villa-john-mcginn-jack-grealish-christian-purslow/)
Thanks for the link :)
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He's too smooth for my liking but good to hear him confirm NFS strategy.
Smooth or not he comes across as far more competent than some of the characters we have had in high places at the club in recent times.
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He's too smooth for my liking but good to hear him confirm NFS strategy.
Smooth is different than smooth with substance. Purslow has the latter.
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He's too smooth for my liking but good to hear him confirm NFS strategy.
Smooth is different than smooth with substance. Purslow has the latter.
A bit like Peanut Butter.
Though I much prefer crunchy.
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Has anyone tried the Marmite Peanut Butter. Yes, its as amazing as it sounds. No need to out two bits of toast together now. Genius.
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Dont care what anyone says purslow is fucking awesome.
His statement was excellent. Strong explained situation and basically saying we in goid hands. True leadership and a proper ceo
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Dont care what anyone says purslow is fucking awesome.
His statement was excellent. Strong explained situation and basically saying we in goid hands. True leadership and a proper ceo
I agree. Very impressive.
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Another stonking transfer window, and then their handling of losing our best player with this. We truly have some class acts running this club now.
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I still have to pinch myself that it's us, Villa, acting so fucking professionally, with class, dignity, resolve and ambition.
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I still have to pinch myself that it's us, Villa, acting so fucking professionally, with class, dignity, resolve and ambition.
100% agreed.
A new chapter dawns and we are in extremely capable hands.
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It's good of him to explain it to us.
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Dont care what anyone says purslow is fucking awesome.
His statement was excellent. Strong explained situation and basically saying we in goid hands. True leadership and a proper ceo
Echo this. Very classy and dignified from our CEO. Clear they did all they could to sway him, but not to be.
We move on. Aston Villa FC. Not Jack Grealish FC.
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What i found interesting was how he didnt wish jack well at the end.
Clearly they are abit annoyed he did not believe in the project
Purslow is the best ceo i think we have had
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Pretty good from Purslow, clear explanation of the circumstances.
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Speaks well but he makes my skin crawl a bit. Very telling didn’t wish him well.
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Ultra professional from the club.
We're in great shape and being run by superb owners.
These are exciting times and I for one cannot wait for the new season to start.
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It looks like a hostage video. I think he blinked SOTV in Morse Code.
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Speaks well but he makes my skin crawl a bit. Very telling didn’t wish him well.
why does Purslow make your skin crawl?
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What i found interesting was how he didnt wish jack well at the end.
Clearly they are abit annoyed he did not believe in the project
Purslow is the best ceo i think we have had
Very impressed with Purslow's communication on this. After seeing JG's comments upon signing for City, I just think fuck him now. Loved him as a player at Villa, but his off the field stuff was embarrassing, and now he's away from his family will probably get worse.
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Purslow is the type of executive you want on your side of the table when negotiating.
Nothing skin crawling here just oozes professionalism.
I know it’s a bit strange for us to get used to!
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As Mr Shin just said to me on the phone, Purslow had a touch of the Billy Beane about him.
You don’t replace the player, you replace what the player does.
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He was quite obviously reading a script so sounded a bit more stilted than usual but clear concise and to the point explaining the circumstances. On we go…..
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Speaks well but he makes my skin crawl a bit. Very telling didn’t wish him well.
why does Purslow make your skin crawl?
Just find him w bit creepy but sure why. Seems good at his job though
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I liked the bit when he said that Jack wanted CL football “now”. Rather than in the future.
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He says the right things. So has a lot of them over the last 12 years or so.
After today not sure if I trust anyone in football.
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He is exactly the type of high quality, not to mention media savvy CEO we needed under Doug and Lerner and as a result would never have been hired by either.
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Speaks well but he makes my skin crawl a bit. Very telling didn’t wish him well.
why does Purslow make your skin crawl?
Just find him w bit creepy but sure why. Seems good at his job though
I really don't understand your opinion of Purslow. He's fantastic at his job and presents such a professional no nonsense portrayal of our club. That's all I'm interested in tbh.
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He delivered unfortunate news with honesty and clarity. The club have handled this whole circus with dignity throughout.
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He says the right things. So has a lot of them over the last 12 years or so.
After today not sure if I trust anyone in football.
Come on now. In Deano we trust!
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He says the right things. So has a lot of them over the last 12 years or so.
After today not sure if I trust anyone in football.
Come on now. In Deano we trust!
I trust Dean. Not sure if he is good enough TBH. I want him to prove me wrong.
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He is exactly the type of high quality, not to mention media savvy CEO we needed under Doug and Lerner and as a result would never have been hired by either.
Can you imagine Tom Fox delivering that statement? He probably would’ve accompanied with an update on Grealish’s shirt sale statistics and how they’re still available at knockdown prices.
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Speaks well but he makes my skin crawl a bit. Very telling didn’t wish him well.
Do you think he should have?
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As always very professional from him, comes across as a very astute man and he has a real class about him.
Guy at work reckons his mate is friends with Christians driver - possibly bullshit, but he said this is his last year and will probably retire at the end of the season.
Signing wise he said backup GK, Axel and then a central midfielder are next and that will be us done.
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Stride fox wyness hollis
We have had some right useless clowns
Purslow been better than the lot of them
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Stride fox wyness hollis
We have had some right useless clowns
Purslow been better than the lot of them
You can’t put Steve Stride in the clown list. He was a loyal servant to the club for years.
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Stride fox wyness hollis
We have had some right useless clowns
Purslow been better than the lot of them
It’s very harsh to include Steve Stride in that list, he was a Villa man to the core and was respected throughout the game.
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Stride fox wyness hollis
We have had some right useless clowns
Purslow been better than the lot of them
You can’t put Steve Stride in the clown list. He was a loyal servant to the club for years.
Correct - Steve Stride does not belong in that list
He was acknowledged as one of the best administrators in football
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Stride fox wyness hollis
We have had some right useless clowns
Purslow been better than the lot of them
You can’t put Steve Stride in the clown list. He was a loyal servant to the club for years.
Correct - Steve Stride does not belong in that list
He was acknowledged as one of the best administrators in football
Stride doesn’t belong on that list, agree with the rest tho
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And Hollis found us a buyer. Okay he wasn’t a very good buyer but his subsequent near bankruptcy lead to our current owners so respect’.
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Steve Stride was a very good administrator. He’d certainly warrant inclusion in our current set up, no doubt about it.
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Wasn't Mark Ansell the CEO in those times when Stride was here? Or was that even Ellis himself? Stride had good contacts in the game, only disappointment was he voted for Wimbledon to move to Milton Keynes, think that was after he left us.
In recent times Paul Faulkner was someone way overpromoted and think that's seen by what Purslow acts. Hopefully he's in CEO role for a few more years yet.
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I liked the bit when he said that Jack wanted CL football “now”. Rather than in the future.
Yes I thought that too, our owners are definitely up for this aren’t they. We do seem to have a plan, now we need Smith to make it work.
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Wasn't Mark Ansell the CEO in those times when Stride was here? Or was that even Ellis himself? Stride had good contacts in the game, only disappointment was he voted for Wimbledon to move to Milton Keynes, think that was after he left us.
In recent times Paul Faulkner was someone way overpromoted and think that's seen by what Purslow acts. Hopefully he's in CEO role for a few more years yet.
Ansell was finance director and probably on his way to becoming CEO until he resigned when Bruce Langham got the job (briefly). Stride was generally regarded as the best admin man in football, although he would admit himself that the public-facing aspect of the CEO's job wasn't for him. He was here when the Wimbledon decision was made, although he said later that they hadn't been given anything like the full facts and was just told that it was Milton Keynes or extinction. Faulkner was inexperienced and not helped by the fact that he looked about fourteen and had no other football experience around him.
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Wasn't Mark Ansell the CEO in those times when Stride was here? Or was that even Ellis himself? Stride had good contacts in the game, only disappointment was he voted for Wimbledon to move to Milton Keynes, think that was after he left us.
In recent times Paul Faulkner was someone way overpromoted and think that's seen by what Purslow acts. Hopefully he's in CEO role for a few more years yet.
Ansell was finance director and probably on his way to becoming CEO until he resigned when Bruce Langham got the job (briefly). Stride was generally regarded as the best admin man in football, although he would admit himself that the public-facing aspect of the CEO's job wasn't for him. He was here when the Wimbledon decision was made, although he said later that they hadn't been given anything like the full facts and was just told that it was Milton Keynes or extinction. Faulkner was inexperienced and not helped by the fact that he looked about fourteen and had no other football experience around him.
Faulkner also nicked my taxi that I’d booked after one game. The arse.
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What i found interesting was how he didnt wish jack well at the end.
I thought that was well judged. Not all Villa supporters do wish him well, and whilst Purslow indicated that Grealish had in fact behaved honourably, to wish him well would have unnecessarily antagonised those that don’t.
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Is it me or does the video by Purslow have a single remarkably coincidental glitch in the middle of Grea-lish which makes it 100% sound like Greed-lish? I can’t help but think a Villa fan in VillaTV has deliberately done that. I presume this has been discussed somewhere?
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Is it me or does the video by Purslow have a single remarkably coincidental glitch in the middle of Grea-lish which makes it 100% sound like Greed-lish? I can’t help but think a Villa fan in VillaTV has deliberately done that. I presume this has been discussed somewhere?
More likely the subtitles are added automatically, but it's not infallible and makes mistakes. Subtitling a video is a time-consuming job and so I suspect it was automated.
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Is it me or does the video by Purslow have a single remarkably coincidental glitch in the middle of Grea-lish which makes it 100% sound like Greed-lish? I can’t help but think a Villa fan in VillaTV has deliberately done that. I presume this has been discussed somewhere?
More likely the subtitles are added automatically, but it's not infallible and makes mistakes. Subtitling a video is a time-consuming job and so I suspect it was automated.
It’s not subtitles, it’s the audio. Right at the v start, 10 seconds in. Listen to it! (It might be one of those things that you hear what you are looking for, though I’m less the type for name calling / not sure I’d even come across that nick name. Don’t think this was £greed btw, drive/greed for success>loyalty sure)
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Is it me or does the video by Purslow have a single remarkably coincidental glitch in the middle of Grea-lish which makes it 100% sound like Greed-lish? I can’t help but think a Villa fan in VillaTV has deliberately done that. I presume this has been discussed somewhere?
More likely the subtitles are added automatically, but it's not infallible and makes mistakes. Subtitling a video is a time-consuming job and so I suspect it was automated.
It’s not subtitles, it’s the audio. Right at the v start, 10 seconds in. Listen to it! (It might be one of those things that you hear what you are looking for, though I’m less the type for name calling / not sure I’d even come across that nick name. Don’t think this was £greed btw, drive/greed for success>loyalty sure)
Ah, my mistake. I saw a still of the video earlier with subtitles and it read "Greed....." something. I had this on the mind. You did say it was a sound.
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As Mr Shin just said to me on the phone, Purslow had a touch of the Billy Beane about him.
You don’t replace the player, you replace what the player does.
There is a bit in the Moneyball movie where Beane and his team are discussing replacing Jason Giambi, who had recently departed to the New York Yankees if I recall correctly. I accept that it is a movie so is open to artistic interpretation, but during that part Beane reasons that the Oakland Athletics can't go out and buy a direct replacement as good as Giambi, so they have to "recreate him in the aggregate".
Think baseball lends itself more to stats and data than football does, but I did think about that scene when it looked like Grealish was on his way. We might not be in a position to replace Grealish with a player as good, but with wise investment of the money we get for him, we could well become a more effective side.
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Thought Purslow came across very well, everything he said about the Grealish transfer strategy was completely rational, and clearly they did want to keep him. It's tremendous to know that the club's hierarchy are so clearly of one mind with us, and they have a great knack of when to be private to the point of secrecy, and when to communicate more directly and openly than most boards would even contemplate. Good stuff all round.
My only concern is him saying they've already achieved the replacing-Jack objective with Emi, Bailey and Ings. We're still an attacking midfielder short in my view.
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My only concern is him saying they've already achieved the replacing-Jack objective with Emi, Bailey and Ings. We're still an attacking midfielder short in my view.
I'm not reading too much into that. I'd expect that business isn't complete for the summer yet. If he tells us, he tells everyone.
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My only concern is him saying they've already achieved the replacing-Jack objective with Emi, Bailey and Ings. We're still an attacking midfielder short in my view.
I'm not reading too much into that. I'd expect that business isn't complete for the summer yet. If he tells us, he tells everyone.
We’ve not shown our hand all summer, he’s not going to be declaring we’ve got 100m burning a hole in our pocket now.
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My only concern is him saying they've already achieved the replacing-Jack objective with Emi, Bailey and Ings. We're still an attacking midfielder short in my view.
I'm not reading too much into that. I'd expect that business isn't complete for the summer yet. If he tells us, he tells everyone.
We’ve not shown our hand all summer, he’s not going to be declaring we’ve got 100m burning a hole in our pocket now.
Sure, of course, and in any case everything he says makes it clear we wanted those three to play with Grealish in the event of him staying so of course there'll be more. It just all seemed so frank and up front that it gave slight concern.
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A lot of positive feedback from media and other clubs' supporters for Purslow following that.
We are looking good to everyone now.
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I'm glad Purslow spoke well but what did he actually say? Is there a summary or link somewhere?
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Here you go.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1423359692475142146
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Cheers, mate.
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If he had sat on the desk to deliver his speech, it could have been a party political broadcast on behalf of the Aston Villa party
He comes across well, lets hope that we have a couple more players coming into the club in the next week?
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My only concern is him saying they've already achieved the replacing-Jack objective with Emi, Bailey and Ings. We're still an attacking midfielder short in my view.
I'm not reading too much into that. I'd expect that business isn't complete for the summer yet. If he tells us, he tells everyone.
We’ve not shown our hand all summer, he’s not going to be declaring we’ve got 100m burning a hole in our pocket now.
Exactly this
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Purslow isnt a big bag of puff that is clear. Some people talk the talk (fox wyness) while others deliver just like purslow has.
I also like how they gave us a detailed explanation on the whole process. They didnt have to but they did. Respectful owners and ceo we have. Wouldnt trade them for anyone
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Extremely well-handled. I was particularly pleased with the way any mention off that footballer was delivered in factual terms with no hand-wringing or sentimentality. Minimal fuss on Pravda too with a banal reference to the transfer of [that footballer].
The only false note was the excitable div who does the Villa social media posting farewell 'memories' on Facebook and Twitter. WTF? The bloke has just kicked us in the goodies FFS!
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One thing I don't get is if they knew he was off from the end of the season, why was he the main person featured in the marketing of season tickets, etc.? This seems out of order.
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I imagine that not including him would have sent the signal to the rest of football that we were expecting big money for him and their prices would have increased accordingly. It looks like we refused to sanction the deal until we had Danny Ings safely in the fold.
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Yes there probably was a concern about season ticket sales if he had gone earlier so there was a certain amount of cynicism in that move but equally they couldn't use Ings and Bailey so I am prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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One thing I don't get is if they knew he was off from the end of the season, why was he the main person featured in the marketing of season tickets, etc.? This seems out of order.
We didn't know he was off. Purslow expressly mentions interest from clubs earlier in the summer who did not match the valuation in the release clause, and were therefore rejected. Until Man City offered £100m just over a week ago, he was staying. That's not to say that Jack hadn't decided to leave if he could, or still wanted to go, but that doesn't happen without a £100m offer, which hadn't materialised at that point.
I thought it was a great video - and regardless of how many fans on here want to call him Ratboy from here on in, I think we did well with the 'thanks for the memories' videos, not least because there are plenty of fans who ARE grateful for those memories. Also, as tribal an issue as it is, pretending the last five years of Grealish at Villa didn't happen doesn't do us ANY favours except make us feel better for a little while.
Imagine the youth players who are Villa fans seeing Grealish ignored or denigrated by the club? I want them all 100% committed to the club, and safe in the belief THIS is where they want to be long term - not thinking "Well, if they can turn on Jack, they'll turn on me in a heartbeat".
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I suppose the question is if we had known in May that Jack wanted to leave if right club / offer came in for him , how many would not have renewed their season tickets?
Personally I love this club and would have renewed my season ticket
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I dont think we knew in may. I think we knew most clubs couldnt afford 100m only city.
I know alot of people wanted more than 100m but for me 100m with his injury record is a excellent deal for us. Also lets not forget thats 125k week wages off the wage bill so we have more money to save and burn if needed
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Replacing Jack with three players is a master stroke from Purslow
How he managed to persuade the Premier League chiefs for us to field 13 men next season is just sheer genius
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One thing I don't get is if they knew he was off from the end of the season, why was he the main person featured in the marketing of season tickets, etc.? This seems out of order.
We didn't know he was off. Purslow expressly mentions interest from clubs earlier in the summer who did not match the valuation in the release clause, and were therefore rejected. Until Man City offered £100m just over a week ago, he was staying. That's not to say that Jack hadn't decided to leave if he could, or still wanted to go, but that doesn't happen without a £100m offer, which hadn't materialised at that point.
I thought it was a great video - and regardless of how many fans on here want to call him Ratboy from here on in, I think we did well with the 'thanks for the memories' videos, not least because there are plenty of fans who ARE grateful for those memories. Also, as tribal an issue as it is, pretending the last five years of Grealish at Villa didn't happen doesn't do us ANY favours except make us feel better for a little while.
Imagine the youth players who are Villa fans seeing Grealish ignored or denigrated by the club? I want them all 100% committed to the club, and safe in the belief THIS is where they want to be long term - not thinking "Well, if they can turn on Jack, they'll turn on me in a heartbeat".
I think the youth players should concentrate on being half as good as Jack. I doubt they will be worried about the repercussions of moving on in the future
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Mr Woodhall on the Beeb:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58012987
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One thing I don't get is if they knew he was off from the end of the season, why was he the main person featured in the marketing of season tickets, etc.? This seems out of order.
We didn't know he was off. Purslow expressly mentions interest from clubs earlier in the summer who did not match the valuation in the release clause, and were therefore rejected. Until Man City offered £100m just over a week ago, he was staying. That's not to say that Jack hadn't decided to leave if he could, or still wanted to go, but that doesn't happen without a £100m offer, which hadn't materialised at that point.
I thought it was a great video - and regardless of how many fans on here want to call him Ratboy from here on in, I think we did well with the 'thanks for the memories' videos, not least because there are plenty of fans who ARE grateful for those memories. Also, as tribal an issue as it is, pretending the last five years of Grealish at Villa didn't happen doesn't do us ANY favours except make us feel better for a little while.
Imagine the youth players who are Villa fans seeing Grealish ignored or denigrated by the club? I want them all 100% committed to the club, and safe in the belief THIS is where they want to be long term - not thinking "Well, if they can turn on Jack, they'll turn on me in a heartbeat".
I think the youth players should concentrate on being half as good as Jack. I doubt they will be worried about the repercussions of moving on in the future
I disagree, in the world of professional sport, where a 1% improvement in performance can be the difference between trophies or not, I think it's vitally important that we consider the players who remain here when decided how we publicly handle Jack leaving. We want them feeling like Jack made the wrong long-term decision to leave this club, this family, not thinking of the club like an emotionless corporate entity that couldn't wash its hands quick enough of someone once they were no longer useful to them.
It's not about the "repercussions of leaving" in the future, it's about getting them to buy into Villa as a club that values them and their efforts when wearing the shirt.
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It's not about the "repercussions of leaving" in the future, it's about getting them to buy into Villa as a club that values them and their efforts when wearing the shirt.
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That and being in Europe, paying them the going rate, winning stuff.
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So many false dawns but I am beginning to wonder if the villa lion is awaking from its slumber.
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we're being ran properly - I love the owners, the manager and the CEO - Purslow knows what he is doing.
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You are right the lion is starting to waken up and is ready to take on anyone who wishes to have ago
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You are right the lion is starting to waken up and is ready to take on anyone who wishes to have ago
Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number–
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you–
Ye are many — they are few.
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You are right the lion is starting to waken up and is ready to take on anyone who wishes to have ago
Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number–
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you–
Ye are many — they are few.
Thats a great twist (context wise) on an emotive poem. There’s something in the way we as a club have been run this last 3 years that I feel makes us different to the scab 6 and with the potential to challenge the status quo. UTV
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Maybe this thread title could be tweaked to a general (not The General) Purslow thread?
Worth a 20min listen (had it on Spotify while driving today) some more insights into the fact we tried hard to keep him, had to been done that week or he signed a new contract for us, maybe someone with more time might pull out some quotes etc
For The Love of Paul McGrath Podcast
🚨 EXCLUSIVE: FABRIZIO ROMANO, JACK GREALISH INTERVIEW🚨
https://youtu.be/IBJFOF2dXxI
(Edit, Sorry could prob go on owners thread too)