Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2019, 07:00:24 PM
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Super Jack is back.
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That's a sight for sore eyes.
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Did you stop halfway through posting to have a kip TV?
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scared me going down that list with Luis and Conor there . Thought Jack wasnt gonna be in
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Guessing Marvellous is jet lagged
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Nakamba dropped, surprised at that.
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Ivor's brother Joe making an appearance at VP is nice.
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Super Jack is back.
That’s such good news 💖
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Oh no 89th min winner Dwight Gayle off the bench ....please not
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Tough on Trez after his recent scoring record
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First 10 mins shows how much they are still bothered by us
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Come on you Villa boys!
Sit down Potato Head!*
*But he's a lovely man and did his best.
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Could you get away with a bag of sprouts?
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Their midfield will kick us all over the park tonight. But at least we will have a bit of quality from set pieces
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Ivor's brother Joe making an appearance at VP is nice.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
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I’ll go 2 minutes 45 seconds before Grealish is fouled.
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Turned Sky on and they talking about Arsenal. FFS.
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Win pleaded.
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Turned Sky on and they talking about Arsenal. FFS.
That's what the majority of their Monday night pre match coverage is to be fair. Going over the weekends games.
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Didnt realise we had such a poor record against them.
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Classic Sky build up to Aston Villa v Newcastle . Gary Neville and Jamie Carrrraggggher talking about Man Yanited and The Arse. The only consolation is they are slagging them off and discussing who is worse 😂
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Oops . Note to self . Check recent posts before posting :-[
Sorry guys
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Didnt realise we had such a poor record against them.
Was terrible record in the Keegan years - the first spell anyway. Beat them a few times under Gregory but not many I can think of lately. James Collins 1-0 was the last one. Forgot Shelvey plays for them, he always seemed to score against us for Swansea.
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El Ghazi must have something on Smith. Either that or Dean wants him in the shop window. Either way it's about time he showed up for more than 5 minutes. We need to work hard as a team both in attack and defensively. That Saint-Maximin is apparently a handful. Hope he's on the left rather than facing Targett.
Glad to see Conor back. Works his balls off but more importantly is great from free kicks. It may take something special if Potatohead has come for a point.
Finally, having had to wait all weekend for our game, I really hope Villa have me smiling all week rather than being a grumpy bastard until our next game. Whoever said today the older you get the worse it gets was spot on. FTF (in style, preferably).
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Jesus, already a cabbage in the pitch... oh wait, it's Bruce ...
*sorry
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Bruce got good reception by looks of it
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Ivor's brother Joe making an appearance at VP is nice.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Took a while
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Is Clarkeeeeeee still 20? He doesn't sem to have aged?!
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Decent start
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WTF Tyrone!
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I honestly think on paper man for man we are better than them. But we have to perform and prove it.
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WTF Tyrone!
Hope that’s good.
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Jack down
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That cross field ball from McGinn to AEG was worth the entry fee alone.
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Jack up
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I’ll go 2 minutes 45 seconds before Grealish is fouled.
Close. It was 8 minutes.
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Jack down
A bit later than JOn C’s prediction but not by much.
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What time is Wesley starting?
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WTF Tyrone!
Hope that’s good.
Not really. Sloppy play.
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Atmosphere sounds flat here on RMC Sport.
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Better and half chance if someone had committed
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El Ghazi should have scored. Grr!
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Good ball in from Targett.
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Good ball in from Targett.
Nicely left by Jack too.
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McGinniesta not so good atm
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When did Mings' passing become so terrible?
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So poor from mcginn there.
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Newcastle seem more than happy to concede a lot of possession, Villa playing freely in front of goal, we need to score soon.
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Is the Holte End all standing?
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Targett throwing up
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Targett throwing up
Not really what you want to see from a player returning from a concussion.
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All fart and no shit.
All sizzle and no sausage.
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All bubble and no squeak.
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Whoever this co-commentator is, he's an asshole. "Grealish knows exactly what he's doing to win the free kick there, stepping across Almiron". OR he's trying to take the ball forward, moving in a particular direction, and gets taken down - as he always does - from behind.
The media trying to subtly suggest he's a simulator, as per usual.
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Good build up play. But we don’t have a striker.
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Conor and Wes having words
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Can’t work out where El Ghazi is playing?!?
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Joelinton goes down easier than Wesley.
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Conor and Wes having words
Given that Wes is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike right now, I don't blame Conor.
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Any footballer that wears a bandana needs a good shoeing.
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Refs carrying on with their agenda against us
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Mason you complete twat
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Good effort from Luiz, saved
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Attrocious decision for that free kick
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At least the sponsored silence has ended.
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Can hear the Villa crowd. You sound brill!
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Freekick on the edge of box
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Yet another donkey of a ref, what a surprise.
PGMOL's employees are outdoing themselves this season.
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What the fuck was that?
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Conor time
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Conor and Wes having words
Given that Wes is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike right now, I don't blame Conor.
They are both playing the “who’s the best invisible man”
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Goooooooooal!
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Gooooooool
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Hologram scores
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yesss sirrr yet to see it
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Fucking Love me some Conor
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Yessssssssss
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What a goal
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Get the fook in!
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Nice
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Connorrrrr !!!!
Yessssss
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Beautifully worked.
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Conor!!
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Now lets bury these feckers
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Hasn't done much tonighy but his value is in goals like that.
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Slick
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Come on Villa lets give these a serious seeing to.
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Get a second.
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Happy for Conor...a thorough professional
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Great set-piece. No fucking around.
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He hit that one quite well didn't he? Interesting game now as Newcastle had clearly set themselves up to be defensive and nick something on the break.
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Brilliant, well done Conor. Magic stuff.
Time for a chocolate chip fudge biscuit.
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Wesley doing ok so far
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For some reason I'm reluctant to get excited just yet.
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These cheating fuckers
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Should have been a yellow card before the goal
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yesss sirrr yet to see it
Are you doing live score? Quickest update there is 😂
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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That useless AEG
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Gooooooooooooool
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Goooooooal!
Itma!
I mean, well done AEG!
Sounded like Conor again on 5 live
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
😂😂😂
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2-0! VAR permitting
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They can’t even celebrate anymore. Fucking great goal
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WHHHHAAAAATTTTTT!!!!!! Its party time
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Get in!
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Fully deserved, the shit appeared after the fart and the sausage is sizzling.
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Have we suddenly employed a set piece coach?
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Let’s keep this up Villa
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Get a third.
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Horrible one Steve.
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Steve Bruce is still halfway to the result he came for, Newcastle 0.
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We have been working those bloody set pieces eh??
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Brilliant so far. Let's not mess this up please villa
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Wonderful stuff and fully deserved.
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All teams know we concede goals in the second half. We simply to have to put these bastards away
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They can’t even celebrate anymore. Fucking great goal
My biggest bugbear with the whole bloody VAR thing. That instant eurphoria when your team scores has just been replaced with anxiety. Even poor Anwar couldn't celebrate properly...
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Oh this is great. C'mon Villa, let's bury them.
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We have been working those bloody set pieces eh??
used the break for something practical
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Horrible one Steve.
Well what can you say, you know how it is. It was always going to be a bit of a tickly one. ;)
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They can’t even celebrate anymore. Fucking great goal
VAR is a curse on the game.
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Oh this is great. C'mon Villa, let's bury them.
2-0 up, 74% possession, what could possibly go wrong
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There isn’t anything in the world worse than being 2-0 up at half time, and then losing.
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Conor with another great delivery
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Oh this is great. C'mon Villa, let's bury them.
2-0 up, 74% possession, what could possibly go wrong
Oh dear... please not
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There isn’t anything in the world worse than being 2-0 up at half time, and then losing.
Being 3-0 up?
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Say what you want about hourhaine, but as a set-piece taker he is world class.
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First goal https://twitter.com/mattlyynch/status/1199065203058651136
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Conor is our Beckham. I love him.
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There isn’t anything in the world worse than being 2-0 up at half time, and then losing.
3-0 up at half-time and losing is worse.
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There isn’t anything in the world worse than being 2-0 up at half time, and then losing.
Being 3-0 up?
When was that?
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I reckon death is worse
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Heaton save!
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Oh this is great. C'mon Villa, let's bury them.
2-0 up, 74% possession, what could possibly go wrong
Oh dear... please not
Almost half time, Edvard
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Targett almost playing like a left winger. Links with Jack well.
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Mofo.... scare. Heaton to rescue
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Come on boys don’t concede before HT
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El Ghazi scores. Offside.
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AEG scores but well offside
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That’s poor from AEG
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second goal https://twitter.com/SolarioRacing/status/1199065530398846976
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Heaton
El gghazi off side
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So far so good. So why does it feel like this is a nervy 2-1 win with twenty minutes of shredded fingernails in the second half?
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Come on boyz
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Not even into the 45th minute and the seats empty out.
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McGinn strangely not himself
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Playing well, but what the hell has happened to Sir John McGinn?
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Not even into the 45th minute and the seats empty out.
Mercy dash to the lavs.
Exciting stuff so far!
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McGinn’s been off the boil for us for a while
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There isn’t anything in the world worse than being 2-0 up at half time, and then losing.
Being 3-0 up?
When was that?
Spurs 3-4 Manchester City (2004)
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HT
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Yeah SJM been a different player for club and country of late. Different level, mind. Has all the press got to his head?
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Mings scares me ..
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McGinn’s been off the boil for us for a while
Playing a more subdued roll to give Jack freedom
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Pretty bloody good overall. Need to finish the job. Jack and Conor excellent. Konsa great as well.
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Happy with the first half performance, just need to keep the ball now for the next 45 minutes and let Newcastle keep chasing shadows.
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No complaints here. Best 45 minutes so far this season, we're really looking like a team, no passengers.
Bruce looks like he's shitting it, fearing an absolute hammering tonight.
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Newcastle come to this with good form, we look comfortable, in control, really good first half, Mcginn gets a bit sharper I can see more goals, Jack is looking class, how he's not in the England side beggars belief.
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I think SJM has had a decent game so far. Maybe its because we are used to him being the only one of the midfielders playing well, that when the others have a decent game he just doesn't stand out?
He's still finding some excellent positions.
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Bruce will now give an "inspirational" half time bollocking to Newcastle and then throw on another defender.
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I don’t think SJM has had a bad game just not his usual brilliant game.
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It's a horrible one Sir Bobby, I mean Steve
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Typical Bruce setup. We have had 3 defeats in row and might crumble under some pressure, so what does he do.. play defensive.
This performance from Newcastle is exactly why I hated Bruce.
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Terrific first half. Jack pulling the strings, Conor really makes the difference in these games and Target and Freddie bombing on, just need to stay solid now. Typical Bruce performance first half away. St Max looks a danger though.
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Why are they focusing on someone's nan?
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Early goal second half and this one is done.
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Bruce will now give an "inspirational" half time bollocking to Newcastle and then throw on another defender.
Or do nothing and with 15 mins left take off as many midfielders as possible and stick everyone up front including centre halfs.
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Terrific first half. Jack pulling the strings, Conor really makes the difference in these games and Target and Freddie bombing on, just need to stay solid now. Typical Bruce performance first half away. St Max looks a danger though.
A danger to himself the massive bandana wearing fanny.
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McGinn Fluffed his lines when in good positions, nothing shot/cross and wasted an easy ball to Wes that should’ve put him in. Lacks a bit of composure at times.
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I don’t think SJM has had a bad game just not his usual brilliant game.
SJM has been on International duty whereas some others have had a rest.
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Mings scares me ..
Yep, not at the races today.
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That’s why Conor’s in the team, thought he did bugger all for 30 minutes, but then who cares. Up to then thought Bruce was doing his boring thang quite well, but now we SHOULD be ok.
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Starting to think Conor is actually better suited to the Premier League than the rough and tumble of the Championship.
That left peg of his is like a fine wine and fits well into this league 😉👌🏼
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Terrific first half. Jack pulling the strings, Conor really makes the difference in these games and Target and Freddie bombing on, just need to stay solid now. Typical Bruce performance first half away. St Max looks a danger though.
A danger to himself the massive bandana wearing fanny.
Reminds me of Traore, quick but shit final ball.
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I think SJM has had a decent game so far. Maybe its because we are used to him being the only one of the midfielders playing well, that when the others have a decent game he just doesn't stand out?
He's still finding some excellent positions.
messed up two counter attacks for AEG at the end, delayed pass too long for the first and overhit the pass for the second. Has been very busy though but they werent difficult passes to send AEG clear on goal.
Luiz for Nakamba aside, it was the team selection I wanted. Konsa justifying his inclusion as has Hourihane. AEG very dangerous and playing as a second striker at times, well our nominal striker might aswell not be there...
Grealish, a class above. Reminds me of last season, the difference in quality between him and everyone else out there.
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I don’t think SJM has had a bad game just not his usual brilliant game.
SJM has been on International duty whereas some others have had a rest.
Yep, probably right and the fact that we get rather spoiled by his brilliance at times.
Conor playing well, not just his goal threat. Looks good today in that midfield.
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second goal https://twitter.com/SolarioRacing/status/1199065530398846976
kin' awful defending.
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0 subs for Newcastle, Bruce showing his tactical genius.
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They've had fuck all, Bruce is playing them even deeper than I was expecting. As comfortable as we have been since Norwich.
Why the fuck do I still expect us to blow it?
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And we're off
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Sloppy start by Freddy
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0 subs for Newcastle, Bruce showing his tactical genius.
Good old Brucie, lets hope he keeps it up.
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Fucking wake up Villa
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Heaton with a good save
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Can someone let villa know we’ve started. Ta.
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We are doing an Aston Villa to start the second half
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Not happy with the start of the second half, we are sloppy and Newcastle have started to push forward in numbers.
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Mings very shaky
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Jack Max Sparrow came close then
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Please don’t make this our bad half
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They start pressing
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Fucking hell we haven’t come out of the changing room here.
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Wesley needs to stop fucking whining at everything
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Weather the storm.
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Piss poor start
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Mings again fucking hell
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What the fuck is going on here?
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Wake the fuck up.
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Unusually for Bruce he’s gone all out attack. Come in Dean figure it out
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Now Luiz loses possession
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Mings for fucks sake.
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Please Villa. Don’t fuck this up.
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Truly dreadful start to the half
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I love Mings but as has been said before he is prone to some really sloppy play.
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They’ve rolled their socks and sleeves up have Newcastle.
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What on earth are we doing
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Sort it the fuck out Villa!
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It’s hard when you’re playing with ten men. Wesley is atrocious.
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I love Mings but as has been said before he is prone to some really sloppy play.
Yeah... Worrying.
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It’s hard when you’re playing with ten men. Wesley is atrocious.
Wesley is always atrocious.
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Oooooh close, good save
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Come on Villa
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Should have been three there.
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I love Mings but as has been said before he is prone to some really sloppy play.
A player of his ability can be casual in the Championship and still look brilliant. In the PL he’s not good enough to do that. He’s going to drop a bollock if he’s not careful.
Ooooooh Konsa close
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Sounds as if Jack is doing well
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Clever from hot lips.
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Need a third to dampen their pecker
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This is better
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It’s hard when you’re playing with ten men. Wesley is atrocious.
Wesley is always atrocious.
No no, he's a great 'focal point' for us..........
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Jack should have scored
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Hourihane's dead ball delivery is some of the best in this league.
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We have settled down now, come on Villa.
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All over them now, need to careful though.
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You'll never beat the Villa!
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Good defensive work from Douglas
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Sounds like Luiz is playing well.
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Much better Villa. Just get the third now.
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Sounds like Luiz is playing well.
He is. So far. Knock on wood. Don't want to jinx anything defensively today...
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Get the third Villa.
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Sounds like Luiz is playing well.
He is. So far. Knock on wood. Don't want to jinx anything defensively today...
Almost
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"Such grace and poise" - Chris Sutton on Grealish.
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Living dangerously at times
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Sounds like Luiz is playing well.
He is. So far. Knock on wood. Don't want to jinx anything defensively today...
Almost
I know, FFS......
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Fucking hell!
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They’re going to score eventually.
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Looks like wor donkeys coming on.
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Konsa was playing with a lot of composure until that...
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"Such grace and poise" - Chris Sutton on Grealish.
Jack needs to go straight home after the game...
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Fucking Carroll and Gayle, stuff of nightmares.
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Bollocks. Gayle on the bench. Please no, not again.
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It’s no surprise we have given more shots away than any other team in the PL this season is it
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The game needs a goal. Another Villa goal.
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Lovely move Jack close
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Carroll on
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Bruce brings on an aging donkey. How inspirational
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It’s no surprise we have given more shots away than any other team in the PL this season is it
We're just so fragile in the second half of games, both home and away. It's baffling tbh. Countless different squads over the years, multiple managers, and we are still a nerve-wracked team.
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I’d get Nak on soon and tell him to just run his bollocks off for the remainder
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Jack wants to get in the goals tonight, that's for sure.
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Bruce is an aging donkey. How inspirational
FTFY
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Carroll on
Bruce going for it taking a defender off
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Luiz getting caught out a bit too often now, time for Marvellous?
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Can we score a goal from open play?
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Two nil up at home against the Toon and I'm nervous as fuck.
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Two nil up at home against the Toon and I'm nervous as fuck.
Me too.
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That says it all. We need more composure than this. Away from home I could understand it.
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I'm always nervous when we are playing. It's in the blood.
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"Such grace and poise" - Chris Sutton on Grealish.
High praise from a miserable git who doesn't often dish out praise.
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I'm always nervous when we are playing. It's in the blood.
Me too. Don’t know why I love this game as it’s not good for my health!
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Need another one.
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Jack is annoying me. Just fucking put it away!
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Newcastle still having chances
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"Such grace and poise" - Chris Sutton on Grealish.
High praise from a miserable git who doesn't often dish out praise.
He is miserable but I for one like him as a 'pundit'. He doesn't talk half the shite that some of them do.
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Jack is annoying me. Just fucking put it away!
Agreed, needs more of a killer instinct when he sniffs a chance. Always tries to finesse it in, which is great if you haven't got 2 men on you every time you're anywhere near the area.
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Time is slowing down. Every minute seems to take 5.
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We are opening up in midfield for them now.
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Not that ******!
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How much was Joelinton again?
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Poor finishing will cost us here I reckon. We should be out of sight now.
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"Such grace and poise" - Chris Sutton on Grealish.
High praise from a miserable git who doesn't often dish out praise.
He is miserable but I for one like him as a 'pundit'. He doesn't talk half the shite that some of them do.
I agree, I like him as a pundit.
I am not happy that Carroll is on. I have taken the piss out of him so much over the years it might come back to bite me tonight.
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Get some energy in. We’re dropping off here.
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Oh fuck... we know what that means
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Our left midfield has disappeared. Not sure where Conor is now playing but Targett is exposed. Come on Dean make a change
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Newcastle getting to much time on the ball, we are sitting back, we need to get in there faces again and get the third.
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How much was Joelinton again?
He cost two Wesley’s or one Iwobi.
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We need a change Nakamba for McGinn.
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Need to change it now Smith looking abit tired. Get marvellous on and maybe trez
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Here is where Dean Smith needs to fucking shore things up. Add some energy to the middle of the park. And he will continue with the same team until we get knackered and concede.
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Need to get Doug Luiz off for marvellous . Liability in possession
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Luiz getting caught out in possession a lot now. We definitely cursed him.
Time for a change please Dean
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The Newcastle defender scuffs the ball a few yards away straight into the path of Grealish and the commentator diplomatically suggests "He didn't quite clear that as well as he wanted to".
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Here is where Dean Smith needs to fucking shore things up. Add some energy to the middle of the park. And he will continue with the same team until we get knackered and concede.
Times like this is where we need experience, kill a game dead if we have to.
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Unbelievable. Fannying about again.
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Fucking hell put this thing away. We should have scored there
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Wesley FFS!
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Wesley. I fucking despair.
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The third goal is there for the taking. Fuck me
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Here is where Dean Smith needs to fucking shore things up. Add some energy to the middle of the park. And he will continue with the same team until we get knackered and concede.
Times like this is where we need experience, kill a game dead if we have to.
This is what I don't understand. Last season this is where Dean would have brought on Jedinak to tighten things up between midfield and defense. Here, nothing. Which tells me either he's had some weird tactical epiphany (which doesn't work), or he doesn't trust his bench so much.......
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Change it up! Give them something to worry about. Come on Deano!
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Wesley what the fuck pal.
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To be fair that’s a food save
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How have we not finished this fucking game.
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Have we signed the only Brazilian that can't play football? Please prove me wrong, Wes.
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Shocking technique from Wes ....angled his foot straight at centre of goal and keeper....not prem quality that
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Fuck me. Wes'd have deserved that too, his build-up play has been excellent.
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Wesley FFS!
Yep should have buried that.
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Wes should have scored there, but has been quite involved tonight. Goals will come.
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Hesgoals down.
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To be fair that’s a food save
Was it a Lidl chance?
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I watch Klopp or Pep. They make subs for all kinds of reasons. Dean Smith is constantly reluctant to do it. What’s he waiting for?
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To be fair that’s a food save
It's a snap save but ball was more or less hit straight at him.
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COULD EVERYONE AT VILLA PARK START SINGING 'DEANO, GIVE US A SUB!'?
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I know it was never going to happen but keep Tammy and we’d have been top 4. He would have filled his boots tonight, especially the one Wes just ballsed up.
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To be fair that’s a food save
Was it a Lidl chance?
It's his meat and potatoes.
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A better team would've scored against us by now.
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Bring Nakamba on for Conor. Bring Kodjia on for Wes.
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Shocking technique from Wes ....angled his foot straight at centre of goal and keeper....not prem quality that
This. Got to put those away.
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Come on Dean change it!
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A better team would've scored against us by now.
They have. Consistently late in games all season.
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A better team would've scored against us by now.
They have. Consistently late in games all season.
I know, that's why... Nevermind.
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Amazed DS hasn't made a sub yet. Bit odd.
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Make a change deano
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Honestly thank fuck Newcastle are shit
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Has DS made a sub yet?
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Honestly thank fuck Newcastle are shit
That's what I was going for TV!
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2-0 up at home and 3 pages of moaning is quite impressive.
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2-0 up at home and 3 pages of moaning is quite impressive.
This
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2-0 up at home and 3 pages of moaning is quite impressive.
You know why. Come on!
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2-0 up at home and 3 pages of moaning is quite impressive.
The scoreline is great. The performance over the last 25-30 mins or so has been less than wonderful. We're Villa fans, we fear the worst. As noted, a better team would have punished this kind of midfield play.
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Oh alright then. 'Easy! Easy! You'll neeeever beat the Villa!'
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We should have put this one to bed and we are all nervous. A third would make us all feel better.
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A clean sheet would be lovely.
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It's the idea that the pain will be less by expecting it
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Surely it can’t happen
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3 mins added time
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Angela on for Conor
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Why the fuck not var for that stamp??
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2-0 up at home and 3 pages of moaning is quite impressive.
This
This x2!
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3 mins added. I'll take that.
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Yay, a sub.
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We should have scored so many more. But will take it
A win and a clean sheet
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Full time. Get the fuck in.
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Wins v the bottom 10, lose or draw the rest....first season back. I'd be ok with that.
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We should have scored so many more. But will take it
A win and a clean sheet
Wesley should have scored. Needs a rest on the bench.
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Brilliant stuff. A clean sheet as well.
Have a great night everyone, I best get on with some work.
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Carragher and Gary Neville saying we had more class than Newcastle and that Jack and Hotlips showed their individual class.
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Good win.