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Title: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Legion on October 30, 2019, 09:48:59 PM
Who and where?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 30, 2019, 09:51:12 PM
Colchester at home, only Quarter-Finalist I haven't seen and we should win it.

Not Manure, as they are playing their first teamers and we're always dreadful against them.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Damo70 on October 30, 2019, 09:53:12 PM
I don't think we have ever played at Oxford's new ground have we? It must be an improvement on The Manor Ground. Although we will probably be drawn away to Liverpool or Manchester City.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: waynejames on October 30, 2019, 09:54:06 PM
We have played at Oxfords new gaff
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 30, 2019, 09:54:57 PM
We've played at least 1 friendly at Oxford since they moved
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on October 30, 2019, 09:54:59 PM
We'll probably get Leicester
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 30, 2019, 09:59:40 PM
When is the draw?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: purpletrousers on October 30, 2019, 10:02:40 PM
ďThe quarter-final draw will be live on Thursday at 08:45 GMT on the Zoe Ball Breakfast Show on BBC Radio Two.Ē
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Ads on October 30, 2019, 10:13:49 PM
We played in the League Cup under Taylor. Won 3-0 with a load of agro half time underneath.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 30, 2019, 10:14:28 PM
We've played at least 1 friendly at Oxford since they moved

We played in the league cup at the new ground in 2003. I liked the old Manor ground, pretty sure the last game we had there was also the league cup. (The goalies got no hair game)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: dorsetvillian on October 30, 2019, 10:16:18 PM
Oxford away please.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Axl Rose on October 30, 2019, 10:16:39 PM
It'll be Liverpool, as we're playing them Saturday, and things always work like that.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: The Moose on October 30, 2019, 10:26:18 PM
Oxford. We owe them. One of the worst nights ever. On a par with the Bradford debacles.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 30, 2019, 10:35:11 PM
We've knocked Oxford out of the LC twice since '86.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: AVH87 on October 30, 2019, 10:41:57 PM
Got a feeling we will get Everton, now that sounds like a proper League Cup QF.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 30, 2019, 10:49:35 PM
December 17th / 18th will be the ties

Sandwich between Sheffield Utd away and Southampton at Home.
I never listened to radio 2 in my life ! And plenty of avenues to hear/see draw .
Stupid BBC to think much more than their regular demographic would tune in when efl twitter and general internet ,  sky sports news , talk sport will have the news in an instant and dedicate more time and insight that some tawdry breakfast show

I imagine most listeners would complain it's interference Zoe ball . With David James.
Fuck me sounds awful. Its an insult to the teams left in.



Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Des Little on October 30, 2019, 10:50:24 PM
Anyone but Colchester away. I canít face that fcuking journey again on a weeknight. Iím only just getting my life back on track after the last one.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 30, 2019, 10:51:39 PM
I can't wait for this lot to fuck off and stop sponsoring the cup, they've mucked around so many of the draws.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 30, 2019, 11:00:15 PM
Colchester at home then please !
Manchester City are the team to beat in this so hopefully someone else does a favor
They won it 3 out of last 4 years and no one can touch them

Along with man city, the villa and Liverpool have a decent record in this so here's hoping we get at least another semi final

Teams we can face :

Colchester
Everton
Leicester
Liverpool
Manchester United
Manchester City
Oxford Utd

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: dcdavecollett on October 30, 2019, 11:05:20 PM
Colchester away would be great for those who believe in omens. We were drawn there in the quarter-final in 74/5!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 30, 2019, 11:12:26 PM
Anybody at home please.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: olaftab on October 30, 2019, 11:35:44 PM
Liverpool and a walk over to the semi final. And Klopp is a massive twat.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Brassneck on October 30, 2019, 11:54:25 PM
What's the betting Man U draw either Oxford or Colchester?

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 30, 2019, 11:56:13 PM
Man Utd at home, please.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 31, 2019, 12:09:30 AM
I was going to say Liverpool at home as they seem to be playing lots of youngsters in this competition but apparently with them playing in world club cup any tie v them wouldn't be played until January.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Kimaster1976 on October 31, 2019, 12:11:09 AM
Well unless its Colchester or Oxford then it should be the first team running out for this from now on in as we are in touching distance.

The winner of this still get a Europa league place does it? or did I miss them stopping that in the 55 rule changes to the game they make every summer.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 31, 2019, 06:04:49 AM
If we are serious about this, then Colchester or Oxford at home
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on October 31, 2019, 06:48:19 AM
Just avoid the Manchester teams, as they both played really strong sides.

We'd have a chance against Everton or Leicester and Liverpool will play the kids. Obviously Colchester or Oxford would be ideal.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 07:59:44 AM
Villa at 28/1 outright winner .
Decent enough price before draw as odds can shift depending on opposition.

Pre draw quarter final odds.
Manchester City 6/5
Liverpool 3/1
Manchester Utd 6/1
Leicester 7/1
Everton 10/1
Aston Villa 28/1
Oxford 250/1
Colchester 500/1

Draw numbers
1. Everton
2. Aston Villa
3.Manchester City
4.Leicester
5.Colchester
6.Manchester United
7.Oxford Utd
8.Liverpool

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 08:08:27 AM
Just avoid the Manchester teams, as they both played really strong sides.

We'd have a chance against Everton or Leicester and Liverpool will play the kids. Obviously Colchester or Oxford would be ideal.

As have home match against Leicester Sunday 8 Dec can see the draw bringing that up for the quarter finals on Tues 17th  Wed 18th such is the way

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: john e on October 31, 2019, 08:13:05 AM
is the draw on tv anywhere or just on the radio ?

(Iím up and super excited)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 08:24:15 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50240295

"Liverpool can't play tie"
So if we get Liverpool will be an issue on scheduling.
With the cup ties scheduled for week commencing 16th December (general matches to be decided 17th/18th) there is a problem for Liverpool fixture.

Liverpool make a 7,000-mile round trip to Qatar to play in the semi-finals of the Club World Cup on 18 December.

They are already scheduled to play 7 games in December, plus the Carabao Cup quarter-final and either a third-fourth play-off or the final of the Club World Cup on 21 December.

With no midweek slots available in 2019 other than during international breaks, the next feasible opportunity to play midweek - when they will not be competing in the Premier League - will be between fixtures on 11 January and 19 January.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 08:31:19 AM
is the draw on tv anywhere or just on the radio ?

(Iím up and super excited)

Seems only on radio
If you're a visual man then anywhere on internet will do! Updates a plenty including here of course!!
I imagine sky sports news will cover it to some extent and very surprised how they are putting it on some off beat radio station.
I would have thought BBC 5 live or Talksport would have claimed for this draw .


Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 08:36:06 AM
is the draw on tv anywhere or just on the radio ?

(Iím up and super excited)

Actually it's bizarre it's not on any tv or stream because like VAR there is no transparency.
This draw could have been made last night fir all we know !!
Or it's some pre record.
Why the heck is some presenter doing the draw ?!
Seems very odd as no one can see what's going on
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Brassneck on October 31, 2019, 08:37:00 AM
I just got on "listen on line" for those who are able to do so:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_two
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 08:40:08 AM
I would nt trust this draw as it can't be seen
It's already been done
Surely they'll pick out a few big ties for the drama !
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 08:43:17 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/50245959

From the website maybe showing it ?!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 31, 2019, 08:43:34 AM
I would nt trust this draw as it can't be seen
It's already been done
Surely they'll pick out a few big ties for the drama !


Kipper ties.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Risso on October 31, 2019, 08:44:22 AM
Liverpool will play their tie in the week commencing 6 Jan apparently.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Reuben on October 31, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
Villa at 28/1 outright winner .
Decent enough price before draw as odds can shift depending on opposition.

Pre draw quarter final odds.
Manchester City 6/5
Liverpool 3/1
Manchester Utd 6/1
Leicester 7/1
Everton 10/1
Aston Villa 28/1
Oxford 250/1
Colchester 500/1

Draw numbers
1. Everton
2. Aston Villa
3.Manchester City
4.Leicester
5.Colchester
6.Manchester United
7.Oxford Utd
8.Liverpool



Still good odds - had a punt at 33/1 before the Wolves game.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 31, 2019, 08:45:34 AM
Special rules for Liverpool, nothing new there.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Risso on October 31, 2019, 08:48:25 AM
How much longer do I have to listen to Zoe Ballís witless chuntering before she does the draw. Sheís setting my teeth on edge.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Nev on October 31, 2019, 08:48:52 AM
Have they forgotten?

Currently interviewing Jayne McDonald.

Number 6: Bingo Wings will play,

Number 1: HRT Town
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: KRS on October 31, 2019, 08:50:23 AM
The fuckin Time Warp?! FFS.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Nev on October 31, 2019, 08:50:26 AM
Now playing The Time Warp.

No idea why, Wolves lost last night.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 31, 2019, 08:50:50 AM
How much longer do I have to listen to Zoe Ballís witless chuntering before she does the draw. Sheís setting my teeth on edge.

Could be worse, it could be Sara Cox.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: The Edge on October 31, 2019, 08:51:47 AM
Draw right now on radio 2
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: AsTallAsLions on October 31, 2019, 08:53:37 AM
The fuckin Time Warp?! FFS.

Halloween, innit
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: manic-road on October 31, 2019, 08:53:47 AM
Two Manchester sides get the easy draws.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: serbentoflight on October 31, 2019, 08:54:24 AM
Liverpool at home
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Brassneck on October 31, 2019, 08:54:37 AM
What's the betting Man U draw either Oxford or Colchester?
There you go.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 31, 2019, 08:54:48 AM
Quel surprise
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: manic-road on October 31, 2019, 08:54:52 AM
Home draw against Pool
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: purpletrousers on October 31, 2019, 08:55:00 AM
Ouch home to Liverpool
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: KRS on October 31, 2019, 08:56:25 AM
Home vs 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'.

Guess weíll have to find out if they can fit the game in...or if they canít be arsed to play the game.

Predictably Man Utd drawn at home to Colchester.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Ads on October 31, 2019, 08:57:39 AM
Good news really as it stops it being inbetween two key legaue games.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 08:57:49 AM
In fairness Man U did draw Chelsea in the last round. Pretty shit draw. Guarantees that we probably have to beat at least two and probably three of the top sides to win it. You've always got a chance if you have to beat one. Two or three? Very little chance.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: themossman on October 31, 2019, 08:57:57 AM
Arenít they in Qatar for these games?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Villan For Life on October 31, 2019, 08:59:29 AM
If we play our first team against their reserves then we should compete against them.

Breaking news on BBC Sport:

Quote
EFL in Liverpool discussions
Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp said his side will not be able to play their Carabao Cup quarter-final if the fixture cannot be rearranged to avoid a clash with the Fifa Club World Cup.

An EFL spokesman said: ďThe EFL is in discussions with Liverpool FC to identify an alternative date given the clubís participation in the Fifa Club World Cup competition.Ē

He's bricking it.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: chrisw1 on October 31, 2019, 08:59:45 AM
Great.  At least we're at home I suppose.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: KRS on October 31, 2019, 09:00:20 AM
If Liverpool field their kids/reserves and Dean picks a stronger team than last night then weíll have a half decent chance of getting to the semi final.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Axl Rose on October 31, 2019, 09:00:28 AM
Quel surprise

This
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: kieron on October 31, 2019, 09:00:37 AM
Fuck sake. 🙄
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: AsTallAsLions on October 31, 2019, 09:04:06 AM
Fucking hell. Fate fucks us again.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Bren'd on October 31, 2019, 09:04:17 AM
The only positive out of that is that for Liverpool and Man City this competition is bottom of their priorities. Clipity is already bemoaning the amount of games theyíre playing.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: UK Redsox on October 31, 2019, 09:04:21 AM
Just about the worst draw to get :(

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: DrGonzo on October 31, 2019, 09:04:49 AM
If they can't meet their competition commitments do we get a walk?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Brassneck on October 31, 2019, 09:05:57 AM
Just about the worst draw to get :(

Not really - They will field a much weaker side than the one we will see from them on Saturday.  It will be an ideal opportunity for them to rest their first teamers.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 09:06:45 AM
If they can't meet their competition commitments do we get a walk?

This is Villa. That sort of thing doesn't happen to us. They'll probably rearrange the game for Doha to suit Liverpool.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: spk on October 31, 2019, 09:08:03 AM
 It could be a lot worse,we are at home.they will field a weakened side,Klopp isn't that bothered about the League cup etc.The two Mancs might meet in the Semi,leaving us and Leicester/Everton to slug it out for the final.Its far from impossible.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: UK Redsox on October 31, 2019, 09:09:19 AM
Just about the worst draw to get :(

Not really - They will field a much weaker side than the one we will see from them on Saturday.  It will be an ideal opportunity for them to rest their first teamers.

That's a level of positivity I can't dream of obtaining Brasso :)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Reuben on October 31, 2019, 09:09:22 AM
Yes, I'd have preferred Oxford or Colchester but Liverpool reserves might be better for us than Everton or Leicester.  Assuming we field a stronger team.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Des Little on October 31, 2019, 09:11:00 AM
Just about the worst draw to get :(



A home draw?  I don't think so
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: TaxDodger on October 31, 2019, 09:11:51 AM
If we play the strongest side possible I'd make us favourites against their reserves at home.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: danno on October 31, 2019, 09:14:28 AM
I'll feel better about this draw after we've beaten them on Saturday. 1-0 With an outrageous VAR decision that leaves Murphy apocoplectic btw.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Tuscans on October 31, 2019, 09:19:16 AM
Arenít they in Qatar for these games?
Yep. They had the West ham game postponed on the 21st because of it. They'll go subs, reserves and kids....we have a chance.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on October 31, 2019, 09:20:23 AM
When is the draw for the Semi Final? Iím hoping for Man City at home.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Des Little on October 31, 2019, 09:23:35 AM
I've got a semi coming on
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Jockey Randall on October 31, 2019, 09:24:54 AM
I hope we don't get pushed around and have it moved to a date just to suit them. If they can't play the week set in the calender they should have pulled out at the start.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 09:31:23 AM
Arenít they in Qatar for these games?
Yep. They had the West ham game postponed on the 21st because of it. They'll go subs, reserves and kids....we have a chance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50240295
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dazvillain on October 31, 2019, 09:32:41 AM
A few scouse supporting friends I have are genuinely believing weíll get a bye !
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 09:34:12 AM
Zero chance. We will have to beat Liverpool and two of Man City/Man Utd/Leicester to win the cup. Ffs.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brassneck on October 31, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
When Man U played in the World Club Championship 20 odd years ago, they pulled out of the FA Cup.  They argued that this was at the FA's request.

If Klopp is serious about not wanting to play it then he should withdraw from the competition (or one competition).
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: TaxDodger on October 31, 2019, 09:36:32 AM
Why don't they just stay in the competition and play a team of players not going to Qatar? Their Under 18s get a taste of playing at the world's greatest football ground in front of 40,000 people, we win 4-0, everyone is a winner. One of them might even be able to swap shirts with John McGinn.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 09:38:00 AM
I hope we don't get pushed around and have it moved to a date just to suit them. If they can't play the week set in the calender they should have pulled out at the start.


Why don't they just stay in the competition and play a team of players not going to Qatar? Their Under 18s get a taste of playing at the world's greatest football ground in front of 40,000 people, we win 4-0, everyone is a winner. One of them might even be able to swap shirts with John McGinn.

I think will be alot of 23s and under  so yeah lot of youth
I guess they'll play a lot of last night squad who don't travel to world championships.

Liverpool played with 6 first team squad members and Adrain on the bench.
The rest of them who played and the bench can make up squad v Villa

Looks promising for villa semi then !!

Kelleher
Williams
Gomez *
Van den Borg
Milner*
Oxlade-Chamberlain*
Lallana*
Keita*
Elliott
Brewster
Origi*

Substitutes
AdriŠn
Jones
Kane
Chirivella
Larouci
Clarkson
Koumetio



Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SaddVillan on October 31, 2019, 09:41:08 AM
I'll happily take a bye and £750k for lost ticket and tv revenues.
Oh, and another £25k for lost balti pie sales.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 09:43:14 AM
Our game will be played in January. Don't get your hopes up. Remember... this is Villa.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: sid1964 on October 31, 2019, 09:43:28 AM
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand

Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them

I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on October 31, 2019, 09:46:04 AM
When Man U played in the World Club Championship 20 odd years ago, they pulled out of the FA Cup.  They argued that this was at the FA's request.

If Klopp is serious about not wanting to play it then he should withdraw from the competition (or one competition).

If the Carabo cup was serious they would be making a decent effort with the cup draw rather than the tawdry effort on shit radio they must be strictly shit dancing fans

Tbf with sky sports they essentially had it live and had live reaction of Colchester players
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 31, 2019, 09:52:04 AM
In fairness Man U did draw Chelsea in the last round. Pretty shit draw. Guarantees that we probably have to beat at least two and probably three of the top sides to win it. You've always got a chance if you have to beat one. Two or three? Very little chance.

Maybe it could be like 2010 when Manchester teams get drawn against each other in the semi finals? Ultimately anyone else wanting to win this needs to hope Man. City gets knocked out as they'd play their strongest team in the final which is a depressing thought.

Anyway in isolation a decent draw for us whenever it's played unless they suddenly bring VVD, Mane, Salah and Firmino out of hibernation for this tournament.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 31, 2019, 09:53:45 AM
The only positive out of that is that for Liverpool and Man City this competition is bottom of their priorities. Clipity is already bemoaning the amount of games theyíre playing.

Man. City have won this competition for last two years, their second string is as strong as pretty much all the teams left. Played a pretty team team v Southampton.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: The Edge on October 31, 2019, 09:54:14 AM
Zero chance. We will have to beat Liverpool and two of Man City/Man Utd/Leicester to win the cup. Ffs.
Zero chance? Get a grip man.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on October 31, 2019, 09:55:22 AM
Liverpool knew when the League Cup dates were before the competition started, they know when the World Club thingy is.

If they didn't think that they could play all the games, they should have not entered the League Cup.

The Villa game should not be moved to accommodate Liverpool.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 31, 2019, 10:05:45 AM
Liverpool knew when the League Cup dates were before the competition started, they know when the World Club thingy is.

If they didn't think that they could play all the games, they should have not entered the League Cup.

The Villa game should not be moved to accommodate Liverpool.
It will be though because they are everybodyís favorite team.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: DrGonzo on October 31, 2019, 10:08:13 AM
If they are in danger of defaulting on a important competition maybe they should pull out of the pointless cup they are currently committed to in Qatar?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brassneck on October 31, 2019, 10:09:44 AM
Zero chance. We will have to beat Liverpool and two of Man City/Man Utd/Leicester to win the cup. Ffs.
Zero chance? Get a grip man.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bren'd on October 31, 2019, 10:13:07 AM
The only positive out of that is that for Liverpool and Man City this competition is bottom of their priorities. Clipity is already bemoaning the amount of games theyíre playing.

Man. City have won this competition for last two years, their second string is as strong as pretty much all the teams left. Played a pretty team team v Southampton.

It being bottom of their priorities doesn't necessarily mean that they wont win it. And who knows, had Man City fielded weaker sides in this competition they may have gone even further in the European Cup.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: manic-road on October 31, 2019, 10:21:15 AM
I'm happy with the draw, having played the youth of Brighton and Wolves I hope that we play Plops youngsters.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 31, 2019, 10:22:14 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on October 31, 2019, 10:25:52 AM
Just about the worst draw to get :(
No. Possibly the best draw other than Oxford and Colchester. Man City would have been the worst draw possible as they donít have a reserve team.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 31, 2019, 10:29:35 AM
Just about the worst draw to get :(
No. Possibly the best draw other than Oxford and Colchester. Man City would have been the worst draw possible as they don’t have a reserve team.

Good point well made
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on October 31, 2019, 10:31:29 AM
If there is a request to move it to 6 Jan we should tell them to duck off. We are not indispensable pawns to be used for their world domination. Anyway thatís the weekend of FA cup third round.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on October 31, 2019, 10:40:10 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc

Quite. The one that gets me is foreign managers moaning about the crowded festive fixture schedule in England.

Yes itís a bit barmy but itís tradition here, we quite like it and youíre paid a fortune to deal with it.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Flin5tone on October 31, 2019, 10:41:54 AM
Aren't the semi finals the week of Jan 6th

We should refuse all date changes, it's simply not our problem
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 31, 2019, 10:43:00 AM
They conceded five to an Arsenal side that showed 11 changes. We'll batter them.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 10:44:13 AM
Zero chance. We will have to beat Liverpool and two of Man City/Man Utd/Leicester to win the cup. Ffs.
Zero chance? Get a grip man.

I was replying to the post before mine, chuckles. Saying there is zero chance of us getting a bye, not zero chance of us getting through.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 10:46:54 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
.

I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they?  I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: sid1964 on October 31, 2019, 10:47:31 AM
If we play on the correct date - then Jurgen and his staff wont be their!

But the game will be moved.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: luke95 on October 31, 2019, 10:48:16 AM
Aren't the semi finals the week of Jan 6th

We should refuse all date changes, it's simply not our problem
FA Cup kicks in that week aswell to add to the congestion.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bren'd on October 31, 2019, 10:50:14 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc

Quite. The one that gets me is foreign managers moaning about the crowded festive fixture schedule in England.

Yes itís a bit barmy but itís tradition here, we quite like it and youíre paid a fortune to deal with it.

Not only that.  The competitions aren't designed to enable one team to win them all.  Man City would probably give up their treble for the European Cup.   
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Reuben on October 31, 2019, 10:51:03 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc

Quite. The one that gets me is foreign managers moaning about the crowded festive fixture schedule in England.

Yes itís a bit barmy but itís tradition here, we quite like it and youíre paid a fortune to deal with it.

However did we all cope in the Simod Cup days?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 31, 2019, 10:53:50 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
.

I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they?  I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.

Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Risso on October 31, 2019, 10:56:42 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
.

I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they?  I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.

Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing

And funnily enough we were the team they should have played then as well.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 31, 2019, 10:57:59 AM
Manure pulled/dropped out before they'd kicked a ball in that season's competition. There'll be triple back flips from the administrators of this to keep Liverpool happy.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 31, 2019, 11:09:05 AM
I donít think itís that bad a draw. Klopp is already whining about it and about dropping out. Which they wonít and the team they do put out will be mainly a reserve line up. Dean will take this much more seriously. Iíd much rather this lot at VP than Man City or Man U.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 11:09:09 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
.

I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they?  I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.

Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing

Yes, they were told to drop out as a one off in an exception circumstance. Teams aren't allowed to drop out under normal circumstances.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Des Little on October 31, 2019, 11:11:56 AM
This is turning out to be the dream draw.  They'll either forfeit or play the canteen staff.  Love it
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 31, 2019, 11:13:10 AM
Weíre be told to play at 9am on a Monday morning and the game will b switched to Anfield mark my words   Ps Klopp will referee
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Villafirst on October 31, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand

Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them

I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.

The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bren'd on October 31, 2019, 11:14:24 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
.

I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they?  I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.

Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing

Yes, they were told to drop out as a one off in an exception circumstance. Teams aren't allowed to drop out under normal circumstances.

Wasn't it a ply ploy to try and curry favour with Fifa with our World Cup bid?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brassneck on October 31, 2019, 11:20:40 AM
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand

Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them

I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.

The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...

Every competition benefits financially when Man U are in it because of the global interest.  Now imagine the hype and advertising potential if it became an all Manchester final.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Risso on October 31, 2019, 11:22:07 AM

Wasn't it a ply ploy to try and curry favour with Fifa with our World Cup bid?

Yep, that went well.  Should have stuck to the tried and tested formula of expensive watches and cash in offshore accounts.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Luke8 on October 31, 2019, 11:28:07 AM
Assuming that it will be moved, is there actually any other possible date available other than at the start of January and therefore moving the semi-final date?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 11:28:31 AM
I really am sick of these clubs moaning about being in so many competitions and it not being fair - isn't that why you spend gazillions on a squad.

If you don't want to play then drop out - its that simple.
I bet when the winter break kicks in the same clubs will be dragging their squads all around the world for "warm weather training" playing a game in Dubai etc
.

I don't disagree with the gist of your post, but they're not allowed to drop out, are they?  I'm sure some already would have done if they were permitted to do so.

Err the Red filth and the FA cup - and according to some with the FA's blessing

Yes, they were told to drop out as a one off in an exception circumstance. Teams aren't allowed to drop out under normal circumstances.

Wasn't it a ply ploy to try and curry favour with Fifa with our World Cup bid?

I think so, yes. As I recall, it was more a case of the FA telling Man U to drop out than it was of Man U wanting to withdraw and getting their own way.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 11:30:03 AM
Assuming that it will be moved, is there actually any other possible date available other than at the start of January and therefore moving the semi-final date?

Only one I can see is Christmas Eve. Surely we won't be asked to play then?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dazvillain on October 31, 2019, 11:33:06 AM
Our game will be played in January. Don't get your hopes up. Remember... this is Villa.
Letís hope VAR are not deciding !
I wonder if arsenal will be reinstated if Liverpool drop out ?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 11:39:58 AM
I can't see them dropping out. As I see it there are two options: Villa play their kids team while the grown ups are in Qatar, or the game gets played in January. The latter is far more likely IMO.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Newby on October 31, 2019, 12:01:26 PM
 I donít see what the fuss is all about, Liverpool were perfectly happy to play their kids last night, so why wouldnít they do it in the quarter-final? Itís not really much of a comparison is it, be named as the best football club in the world by winning the world super cup or compete in some low-level cup competition which will only give you a Europa place.  They have a huge squad and can compete in both games, with youth coaches or assistants managing the EFL game.

The only way to stop clubs moaning about having too many games to play is for them to be less successful. They cannot have it both ways.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 31, 2019, 12:05:50 PM
I think it will be played the week when the first leg of the semi is scheduled for with the first leg getting pushed back a week and the powers that be praying that neither of us needs a replay from the 3rd round of the FA cup. Knowing how these things happen we'll probably draw each other and draw the match.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: danno on October 31, 2019, 12:09:02 PM
I think they have a point. It's bad enough that they have to play all 38 games to win the league.

If moving the fixture inconveniences us in anyway, withdraw and let them have a two legged semi final to complain about.

Set of ***ts
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Meanwood Villa on October 31, 2019, 12:10:30 PM
Also, I'm not sure why Liverpool are getting flack for this (much as I dislike them). It's not their fault they're in two competitions scheduled to play at the same time. The EFL are responsible for scheduling the league cup and should have a contingency for this eventuality. Asking Liverpool to play both at the same time is ludicrous.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: chrisw1 on October 31, 2019, 12:11:25 PM
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand

Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them

I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.

The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...

Every competition benefits financially when Man U are in it because of the global interest.  Now imagine the hype and advertising potential if it became an all Manchester final.
I like conspiracy theories as much as the next man, but do people seriously think the BBC, Zoe Ball and David James are going to get involved in a fixed draw just to benefit Manchester cluns?  Why on earth would they do that?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: AsTallAsLions on October 31, 2019, 12:13:50 PM
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand

Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them

I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.

The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...

Every competition benefits financially when Man U are in it because of the global interest.  Now imagine the hype and advertising potential if it became an all Manchester final.
I like conspiracy theories as much as the next man, but do people seriously think the BBC, Zoe Ball and David James are going to get involved in a fixed draw just to benefit Manchester cluns?  Why on earth would they do that?

Makes no sense chris, but then some people think the earth is round.

A much more appealing and provable theory is that the universe has it in for Aston Villa.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 12:31:22 PM
Also, I'm not sure why Liverpool are getting flack for this (much as I dislike them). It's not their fault they're in two competitions scheduled to play at the same time. The EFL are responsible for scheduling the league cup and should have a contingency for this eventuality. Asking Liverpool to play both at the same time is ludicrous.

Much as I dislike them, I agree. And it should at least be possible for a team to compete to win every trophy available to them. In the hugely unlikely event that Villa ever find ouselves in that position, I would be annoyed at being forced to withdraw or play a youth team in one competition, especially when you have already made it through as far as the Quarter-Finals.

The fairest thing is clearly to play the game in January.

I'm still hoping for an unfair outcome resulting in Villa getting a bye or playing Liverpool Schoolboys though, obviously.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: DrGonzo on October 31, 2019, 12:36:43 PM
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand

Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them

I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.

The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...

Yes, Zoe Ball must be a United fan... I always knew she was in the employ of the lizard people.  Check paranoia levels...
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: lovejoy on October 31, 2019, 12:40:59 PM
Why has this issue only been spotted now?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: danno on October 31, 2019, 12:50:33 PM
I assume that there lot will get all of the North Stand

Hopefully they will have to play there reserves, but knowing the FA, we will be playing on a date that suits them

I bet SKY are hoping for a City V Utd Final.

The draw looks a bit dodgy with Citeh and Yanited getting the easy ties. Surprise, surprise...

Yes, Zoe Ball must be a United fan... I always knew she was in the employ of the lizard people.  Check paranoia levels...

As a close family friend of Johnny Bobby and Michael, I am shocked and appalled at this unfounded accusation!

(https://i.ibb.co/PGRGQHL/IMG-2474.jpg)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: usav on October 31, 2019, 12:53:35 PM
Also, I'm not sure why Liverpool are getting flack for this (much as I dislike them). It's not their fault they're in two competitions scheduled to play at the same time. The EFL are responsible for scheduling the league cup and should have a contingency for this eventuality. Asking Liverpool to play both at the same time is ludicrous.

Much as I dislike them, I agree. And it should at least be possible for a team to compete to win every trophy available to them. In the hugely unlikely event that Villa ever find ouselves in that position, I would be annoyed at being forced to withdraw or play a youth team in one competition, especially when you have already made it through as far as the Quarter-Finals.

The fairest thing is clearly to play the game in January.

I'm still hoping for an unfair outcome resulting in Villa getting a bye or playing Liverpool Schoolboys though, obviously.

Sums up my feelings too.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: usav on October 31, 2019, 12:54:05 PM
Why has this issue only been spotted now?

Well, it wasn't an issue until 10pm last night.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: lovejoy on October 31, 2019, 12:59:38 PM
Why has this issue only been spotted now?

Well, it wasn't an issue until 10pm last night.

Iíd like to think clubs plan their fixtures more than one round at a time.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Chris Smith on October 31, 2019, 01:35:53 PM
Why has this issue only been spotted now?

Well, it wasn't an issue until 10pm last night.

Iíd like to think clubs plan their fixtures more than one round at a time.

I think even Liverpool would have the awareness to not talk about a future round of a competition before they had negotiated the current one.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final
Post by: Stu on October 31, 2019, 01:41:52 PM
If we play our first team against their reserves then we should compete against them.

Breaking news on BBC Sport:

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EFL in Liverpool discussions
Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp said his side will not be able to play their Carabao Cup quarter-final if the fixture cannot be rearranged to avoid a clash with the Fifa Club World Cup.

An EFL spokesman said: ďThe EFL is in discussions with Liverpool FC to identify an alternative date given the clubís participation in the Fifa Club World Cup competition.Ē

He's bricking it.

They should scratch and we'll get a bye
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 31, 2019, 01:52:05 PM
There's no way on earth that the sponsors and TV will stand for the biggest name in a competition pulling out. We'll play at a time to suit Liverpool.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 31, 2019, 01:55:20 PM
We shouldn't have to accommodate Liverpool. We tell them the game is played on the 17th/18th December and that they play a kid's team if needs be, otherwise they can't fulfill the fixture and forfeit the game. We wont do that but we'd be well within our rights to.

Now it's going to be played in January when we may have picked up injuries over Christmas and we're going to end up with a backlog with the semis being delayed if we get through.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 31, 2019, 02:06:54 PM
Just about the worst draw to get :(
No. Possibly the best draw other than Oxford and Colchester. Man City would have been the worst draw possible as they donít have a reserve team.

I agree with Aftab. Citeh, Man Ure, Leicester even Everton away would have been far worse. Last night Steve Nicol was of the opinion that Klopp would play the kids all the way to the final. I would expect Deano to play a full strength team for this assuming we get some decent points on board by then. Hopefully a repeat of Easter Monday 1979. ;)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Flin5tone on October 31, 2019, 02:22:18 PM
Stand our ground
 If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: chrisw1 on October 31, 2019, 02:30:47 PM
Stand our ground
 If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.

I suspect you not attending in Jan will be fairly low down their priorities when considering this fixture.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 31, 2019, 02:41:14 PM
Everywhere I read it's "The EFL are in talks with the Reds to identify an alternative date", not a single outlet has mentioned what date would be convenient for us as well.

The week commencing December 16th suits us perfectly, we should stand our ground and tell them to fuck off.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 31, 2019, 02:53:36 PM
After we smash their first 11 this week they'll withdraw their second/third 11 rather than face another humiliation.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on October 31, 2019, 02:56:19 PM
Stand our ground
 If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.

I suspect you not attending in Jan will be fairly low down their priorities when considering this fixture.
But not just Fred I can't be there in January either.....so there.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 31, 2019, 03:00:23 PM
Stand our ground
 If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.


They can expel us from the cup,  report us to the FA and have us ultimately banned from every Uefa-affiliated competition.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 31, 2019, 03:15:20 PM
Fuck Liverpool, give the spot to Arsenal or MK Dons.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on October 31, 2019, 03:19:33 PM
Stand our ground
 If we refuse what can they do? That is the week those fixtures take place. I will not attend if moved to January.


They can expel us from the cup,  report us to the FA and have us ultimately banned from every Uefa-affiliated competition.
And eat our children.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Ads on October 31, 2019, 03:24:13 PM
Or worse, bring that bloke on to sing You'll Never Walk Alone in front of the Holte again.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: john e on October 31, 2019, 03:46:08 PM
the game whenever it's played (and it will be) will depend on how much of a priority winning the cup is for us

yes Liverpool did play some kids last night but they also played Milner, Gomez, Lallana, Oxlade- Chamberline and Origi

in my view it's very simple
if we play a strong team and by that I mean a team with Grealish, McGinn and Mings in we have a very good chance of winning in fact I would say we would win

if we play a team like the one we put out last night we will lose

it's over to Dean
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 31, 2019, 04:12:39 PM
No problem for me when we play it.
We've won the League Cup five times and didn't need any byes or free passes.

Anyway delays suit us. In the first season (60/61) the two legged final with Rotherham had to be carried over to the start of the next season and we were defending it just eight days later in the 61/62 tournament ! 
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: eamonn on October 31, 2019, 04:18:03 PM
Really?  Cor.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: kieron on October 31, 2019, 06:59:02 PM
Liverpool debate fielding two different teams in two different competitions on the same day to resolve fixture jam

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/10/31/liverpool-debate-fielding-two-different-teams-two-different

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Liverpool and the English football league have discussed the possibility of Jurgen Klopp fielding two different teams, in two different competitions, in two different time zones on the same night to resolve the clubís fixture chaos.

The most likely night for Liverpool to travel to Aston Villa in the Carabao Cup quarter-final is January 8, when the first leg of the semi-finals are scheduled to be played. Liverpool are happy to use that date, recognising there is little alternative without serious compromise to the quality of the squad in the last eight.

But during talks with the competition organisers, the possibility of Liverpool playing a team of youngsters at Villa Park on either December 17 or 18 was raised. That would create history as Klopp and his senior team will be in Qatar, where they play the semi-final of the Fifa World Club championships on December 18. A Liverpool team would have to play a senior fixture either on the same day, or within 24 hours of each other, in different continents.

Klopp made eleven changes to his line-up for the round four victory over Arsenal, but he still included senior stars such as Adam Lallana, Divock Origi, James Milner, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Naby Keita in his line-up. Teenagers Rhian Brewster and Harvey Elliott have also been regular squad members this season and would most likely be part of the travelling party in Qatar.

That means it would demand even more changes to the Liverpool Carabao Cup squad to fulfil their fixture, making it less likely to go ahead in December. As well as requiring 36 players to cover both games, Liverpool would have to decide who managed the team at Villa Park.

A decision is expected soon with Klopp increasing the pressure on the EFL by threatening to withdraw Liverpool from the competition if a sensible solution is not found.

With the Football Association and Premier League also involved in the talks, January is the most likely date. The winners of the tie would then play their semi-final, first leg on the date originally pencilled in for the second leg later in January (Jan 28-29) with the subsequent second leg taking place in February. The final is scheduled to take place at Wembley on March 1. 

Klopp has often protested against the fixture scheduling, and there may be a sense of perverse pleasure at the focusing of minds and logistical nightmare Liverpoolís success has caused the organisers. The Liverpool manager has been able to raise awareness of the physical impossibility of fulfilling every domestic fixture while Uefa and Fifa continue to add games to the football calendar.

Despite Kloppís withdrawal warning, there is little prospect of the EFL failing to find a solution as they understand the situation and are seeking to protect the integrity of the competition. Liverpool could disqualify themselves by refusing to agree to a date, but talks are ongoing.

According to the cup rules, any club failing to fulfil its obligations in respect to any match on the appointed date will be deemed guilty of misconduct and liable to pay compensation to their opponent.

If it got that far, the compensation figure would be determined by a disciplinary commission at a later date.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 07:01:49 PM
Unfair as it would be, a bye to the semis and Liverpool forced to compensate us for lost earnings would be hilarious 🤣
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on October 31, 2019, 07:14:22 PM
Unfair as it would be, a bye to the semis and Liverpool forced to compensate us for lost earnings would be hilarious 🤣
I would hate that but if it helps the nations worlds favourite football club  I would accept it and live with the stigma.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 31, 2019, 07:19:35 PM
I donít see what the fuss is all about, Liverpool were perfectly happy to play their kids last night, so why wouldnít they do it in the quarter-final? Itís not really much of a comparison is it, be named as the best football club in the world by winning the world super cup or compete in some low-level cup competition which will only give you a Europa place.  They have a huge squad and can compete in both games, with youth coaches or assistants managing the EFL game.

The only way to stop clubs moaning about having too many games to play is for them to be less successful. They cannot have it both ways.

Think the problem here is for Fifa events they always insist on 23 man squads being submitted so Liverpool would have to take many of those young players to Qatar as cover for main 11.

I don't have an issue with it being in January. I remember years back our game at Blackburn got called off from snow so think the schedule got pushed back a week.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 31, 2019, 07:50:38 PM
Our first LC QF since Norwich under Lambert 7 seasons ago, and the last 6 seasons is our longest ever run in this competition without reaching at least the QF.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Nastylee on October 31, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
I donít see what the fuss is all about, Liverpool were perfectly happy to play their kids last night, so why wouldnít they do it in the quarter-final? Itís not really much of a comparison is it, be named as the best football club in the world by winning the world super cup or compete in some low-level cup competition which will only give you a Europa place.  They have a huge squad and can compete in both games, with youth coaches or assistants managing the EFL game.

The only way to stop clubs moaning about having too many games to play is for them to be less successful. They cannot have it both ways.

Think the problem here is for Fifa events they always insist on 23 man squads being submitted so Liverpool would have to take many of those young players to Qatar as cover for main 11.

I don't have an issue with it being in January. I remember years back our game at Blackburn got called off from snow so think the schedule got pushed back a week.

The real problem here is that fifa have invented a pointless competition that they insist is played in the middle of the season. Fuck it off.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: TopDeck113 on October 31, 2019, 11:01:40 PM
Whilst their fixture congestion is a drag, but I'm not displeased to have drawn Liverpool.  In fact, with the exception of season when we last beat them in a Cup competition, for much of the last decade or more I'd have snapped your hand off if you said we'd drawn a home quarter final with a decent chance of progressing.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Richard on October 31, 2019, 11:07:57 PM
FIFA are also planning to expand this world club thing to 24 teams - they really are a bunch of pricks.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on October 31, 2019, 11:34:52 PM
I don't really mind that concept. There is no reason why Europe (and to an extent South America) should have exclusive domination of world football and the FIFA Club World Cup and its proposed 24-team successor are events where African, Asian, North American and Oceanian clubs can, at least in theory, have their moment in the spotlight. In any case the 24-team competition would only take place every four years so would lead to a reduction in disruption, not an increase.

Also worth pointing out that England has sent teams before without this level of confusion. The problem this season is that they brought the League Cup Quarter-Finals forward to accommodate a (pointless) two week break for each club in February. That's the fault of the Premier League, not due to any chicanery on FIFA's part.

The future of the League Cup is far more threatened from within Europe than from outside it. France is abolishing its version after this season, meaning only England now offers the winner a European spot.

It has been speculated that Premier League clubs will be able to opt out of the League Cup, once proposals to increase the number of Champions League games by 50% are voted through some time early in the next decade. That would almost certainly see its Europa League place removed and sound the death knoll of the competition.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: mikeb1982 on October 31, 2019, 11:35:33 PM
Last time we played them in a cup we played them off the park, bring it on, whenever it is. Best outcome is to let them have their bitch and moan, get it moved to suit them and then beat them anyway.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 01, 2019, 12:12:23 AM
I donít see what the fuss is all about, Liverpool were perfectly happy to play their kids last night, so why wouldnít they do it in the quarter-final? Itís not really much of a comparison is it, be named as the best football club in the world by winning the world super cup or compete in some low-level cup competition which will only give you a Europa place.  They have a huge squad and can compete in both games, with youth coaches or assistants managing the EFL game.

The only way to stop clubs moaning about having too many games to play is for them to be less successful. They cannot have it both ways.

Think the problem here is for Fifa events they always insist on 23 man squads being submitted so Liverpool would have to take many of those young players to Qatar as cover for main 11.

I don't have an issue with it being in January. I remember years back our game at Blackburn got called off from snow so think the schedule got pushed back a week.

The real problem here is that fifa have invented a pointless competition that they insist is played in the middle of the season. Fuck it off.

Out of interest when did we play I think Penarol in the final of that in 1982, mid season or a later date? I assume we had to miss a league game or two given it was held back then in Tokyo.

It was a one off game between Champions league winner and Libertadores winner from South America then FIFA of course got greedy and it now involves the Asian and African winners.

Man. United in 1999-2000 actually had to go to Tokyo to play the one off game and then a month later they had to go to Brazil to play in that wierd club world club event so had to pull out of the FA cup.

It would be better doing it before the start of the season like the european supercup but Libertadores is ongoing.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 01, 2019, 12:16:52 AM
I don't really mind that concept. There is no reason why Europe (and to an extent South America) should have exclusive domination of world football and the FIFA Club World Cup and its proposed 24-team successor are events where African, Asian, North American and Oceanian clubs can, at least in theory, have their moment in the spotlight. In any case the 24-team competition would only take place every four years so would lead to a reduction in disruption, not an increase.

Also worth pointing out that England has sent teams before without this level of confusion. The problem this season is that they brought the League Cup Quarter-Finals forward to accommodate a (pointless) two week break for each club in February. That's the fault of the Premier League, not due to any chicanery on FIFA's part.

The future of the League Cup is far more threatened from within Europe than from outside it. France is abolishing its version after this season, meaning only England now offers the winner a European spot.

It has been speculated that Premier League clubs will be able to opt out of the League Cup, once proposals to increase the number of Champions League games by 50% are voted through some time early in the next decade. That would almost certainly see its Europa League place removed and sound the death knoll of the competition.

Surely the easiest solution is to just play the league cup a little bit later? Does the final always have to be late Feb/early March? Does the January games always have to be two legged semis, FA cup semi finals aren't.

You could go radical and end season with league cup final on one Saturday and then FA cup final the following Saturday.

There is pretty much three months of the season to run when league cup final is played so no one with a straight face can say there's no room to play the final at a later date. That way you don't get boxed in with having to fit quarter finals in around this club world cup.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 01, 2019, 12:20:29 AM
FIFA are also planning to expand this world club thing to 24 teams - they really are a bunch of pricks.

I'm just surprised, having watched the borefest that was the all English, Champions League Final, they want Liverpool involved in any FIFA game. How much shit can you digest and still claim you support the game on a global scale? Oh yeah, Qatar 2022!

Wankers!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 01, 2019, 12:55:59 AM
We played Penarol in Tokyo on the 12th December 1982.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: sid1964 on November 01, 2019, 06:42:17 AM
Did we not play Arsenal away on the Tuesday and then instead of staying in London and flying out the next day (Doug said no extra nights hotel bill), the team came back to Birmingham and then, the following morning travelled back to London to fly to Tokyo.

Remember listening to the game on the radio as it was late Saturday night.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 01, 2019, 07:00:36 AM
My dad moans that we played with a ball, "a bloody beach ball" to quote him, that they were used to and we weren't and that's why they won.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on November 01, 2019, 09:09:06 AM
The EFL will only grant a Ďbyeí into the next round if there is no other solution.
I think there is some chance for a 'bye' though they would probably just shift the tie to January .
Think it may depend on clubs as much as EFL
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: sid1964 on November 01, 2019, 09:21:01 AM
What is annoying me, is that Villa will just have to accept whatever the EFL say, personally, we should say that we will only play on the specified date that was agreed at the start of the season.

There is talk of us playing the game on 3rd round FA Cup day.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 01, 2019, 09:31:46 AM
Meh. Just tell me when the date is and I'll turn up. What a load of fuss about nothing.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 01, 2019, 09:35:56 AM
Do all the people suggesting that we just insist on the original date and refuse to switch, genuinely think thatís something we could do? Really?

Have they missed the dozens of games that get switched from their original date every season?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: darren woolley on November 01, 2019, 09:38:59 AM
I'm glad we are at home hopefully Liverpool will put out an under strength team and we can book our place in the Semi Finals.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: London Villan on November 01, 2019, 11:23:07 AM
We should give them a selection of dates we are happy with. Letís hope we arenít been dictated to.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 01, 2019, 11:37:56 AM
We should give them a selection of dates we are happy with. Let’s hope we aren’t been dictated to.

But you know that is exactly what will happen

We will not even be consulted
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: OCD on November 01, 2019, 11:42:11 AM
They've been playing a few kids anyway. Just have the senior team play the FIFA game and send a send separate group to play the cup game.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Holte132 on November 01, 2019, 11:55:28 AM
We already have seven games to play in December so I think it might suit us better to have the game played in January - or just give us a bye to the semis!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 01, 2019, 11:56:16 AM
We should give them a selection of dates we are happy with. Letís hope we arenít been dictated to.

If the dates we want aren't available because Liverpool are abroad, that's hardly their fault, is it? I don't really understand why people seem to have their backs up about this. We have had matches rearranged due to opponents' cup requirements for years. Not sure why everyone seems to have gone full Fight Them On The Beaches about it this time. Would playing a match a few days before a Third Round cup match in which we will likely rest loads of players be that much of a hardship?

Obviously, I'd prefer a bye or to play Liverpool's kids in December, but they haven't actually done anything wrong on this occasion.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Risso on November 01, 2019, 12:04:32 PM
Exactly.  It's no different to having a league game rearranged because you've got through to a later round of the cup.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 01, 2019, 12:09:08 PM
We should give them a selection of dates we are happy with. Letís hope we arenít been dictated to.

If the dates we want aren't available because Liverpool are abroad, that's hardly their fault, is it? I don't really understand why people seem to have their backs up about this. We have had matches rearranged due to opponents' cup requirements for years. Not sure why everyone seems to have gone full Fight Them On The Beaches about it this time. Would playing a match a few days before a Third Round cup match in which we will likely rest loads of players be that much of a hardship?

Obviously, I'd prefer a bye or to play Liverpool's kids in December, but they haven't actually done anything wrong on this occasion.

It really does grieve me to say it, but I agree with the feisty young lad on this occasion.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on November 01, 2019, 12:22:54 PM
What has the world come to ? H&V posters seeing things from a Liverpool FC perspective Ö.. whatever next? My Claret membership cards coming in the post ÖÖ.. oh wait a minute  :)

Seriously though I think the authorities should consider moving the fixture to Anfield so as the Liverpool players for the tie don't have to leave school early to get to Birmingham :)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on November 01, 2019, 12:50:20 PM
Who cares when we play it really? Iím really missing the quick turnover of games in the championship.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: TonyD on November 01, 2019, 12:58:18 PM
They knew there would be a clash.  So make them play the kids.  They had no problem with playing the kids the other night. 
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 01, 2019, 01:43:49 PM
They knew there would be a clash.  So make them play the kids.  They had no problem with playing the kids the other night.

James Milner's an old "kid".
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: LeeB on November 01, 2019, 01:56:32 PM
I think we should be helpful in this situation because we may need the favour back in two years time when we're playing in it.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: john e on November 01, 2019, 02:07:04 PM
I think we should be helpful in this situation because we may need the favour back in two years time when we're playing in it.

Liking the long term big picture thinking there
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 01, 2019, 02:14:10 PM

Out of interest when did we play I think Penarol in the final of that in 1982, mid season or a later date? I assume we had to miss a league game or two given it was held back then in Tokyo.


We played on Sunday 12th December 1982. There were no Division One league games that weekend as it was Euro international qualifiers. England beat Luxembourg 9-0 the following Wednesday. Our next game after getting back from Tokyo was at home in the league the following Saturday. We lost it 4-2...to Liverpool.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 02, 2019, 12:40:33 AM
I think we should be helpful in this situation because we may need the favour back in two years time when we're playing in it.

I agree with LeeB again.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brassneck on November 02, 2019, 09:08:40 AM
I believe that Liverpool and/or the EFL should take responsibility here.  We should not have arrived at this crisis point and then begun clutching at straws to see when the game could be played.

Having 2 sides playing the semis, 1 side in limbo and 2 sides playing a quarter final is far from ideal.  It also impacts planning for the eventual winner of the quarter final and gives fans of the 1st semi final advantages in booking hotels etc.

Not life or death but in an age when fans are constantly complaining about re-arranged kick off times and dates, a contingency plan ought to have been in place for this eventuality back in August when the competition began.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Richard on November 02, 2019, 11:22:13 AM
I don't get your post Brassneck the semi finals are two legged and does it really matter who gets through first
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 02, 2019, 11:43:44 AM
Seems the club are happy to play it in early Jan so would imagine it will be sorted for then.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brassneck on November 02, 2019, 12:18:36 PM
I don't get your post Brassneck the semi finals are two legged and does it really matter who gets through first

As I said, not life or death.

It DOES matter who gets through first, especially if there's a large gap between that and the 2nd qualifying finalist.  Hotels etc tend to get booked up very quickly once a team gets to Wembley.  Furthermore, the shorter the period between qualifying and the actual game, the more difficult it becomes for fans, clubs and indeed sponsors to make arrangements.

Not sure what your point is about the semi final?  We are supposedly playing our QF when the other teams are playing their SF.  Therefore, when they play the 2nd leg, we/Liverpool will presumably be playing our 1st leg.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Risso on November 02, 2019, 12:22:05 PM
Quite why the League Cup still has the semis over two legs I will never understand.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 02, 2019, 12:59:38 PM
Clubs tend to make preparations for finals once they reach the QF. And I like that the semis are 2 legs.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 02, 2019, 02:46:42 PM
We had a fixture pile up in 1994 which resulted in us playing a League Cup semi on a Sunday. Didn't work out too badly as I recall
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: eamonn on November 02, 2019, 04:08:19 PM
And was the first leg on a Friday?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Three Spires Villa on November 02, 2019, 05:44:44 PM
And was the first leg on a Friday?

Yep
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Rudy65 on November 02, 2019, 06:01:16 PM
And was the first leg on a Friday?

Yep

Are you sure?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 02, 2019, 06:03:17 PM
First leg was Weds 16th, second leg was Sunday 27th.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on November 02, 2019, 06:51:50 PM
First leg was Weds 16th, second leg was Sunday 27th.
We were probably out of the FA cup at third round  as Saturday 26 Jan would have been the fourth round day.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 02, 2019, 06:57:26 PM
We went out in the 5th round at 2nd division Bolton on the 20th, games was live on TV IIRC.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 02, 2019, 07:28:22 PM
Quite why the League Cup still has the semis over two legs I will never understand.

and 6 extra games in the chumps league group stages ..

complete bollocks
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 02, 2019, 08:27:34 PM
Looks like the game will go ahead as planned according to Reuters:

BREAKING NEWS..FIFA officials having watched again the 2019 Champions League Final have decided that to invite Liverpool to play in the 2019 FIFA World Club Finals risks a repeat of the most boring final ever. A spokesman for the host nation, Qatar, who are also hosting the FIFA World Cup in 2022, was quoted supporting FIFA's decision; "Fuck me, we're trying to get interest in football within the region, the last thing we need are those plastic Scouse twats boring the shit out of our potential fans and sponsors. Champions of Europe? You're having a laugh, la".
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: frank black on November 05, 2019, 04:34:00 PM
Confirmed 17/12
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 05, 2019, 04:37:16 PM
Aston Villa
@AVFCOfficial
6m

Our @Carabao_Cup  Quarter-Final clash with Liverpool has been confirmed for Tuesday 17 December (7:45pm KO) as originally scheduled. 📆

This game has been selected for live coverage by Sky Sports and ticket information will be released in due course.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: frank black on November 05, 2019, 04:38:27 PM
Does this mean we will be playing their kids. When they send their first team to Qatar.

I hate Liverpool

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: kieron on November 05, 2019, 04:39:36 PM
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/372222-club-statement-carabao-cup-aston-villa

Quote
As a result, we will be utilising two playing squads simultaneously, with one squad participating in the FIFA Club World Cup in Qatar and another in the Carabao Cup.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: danno on November 05, 2019, 04:41:42 PM
So, they decided to just call Klopp's bluff then?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 05, 2019, 04:42:17 PM
Sounds good to me, they obviously won't be full strength. Though I doubt it will be actual kids on the pitch... Suspect they will have their first team in Qatar, squad players at Villa Park and lots of kids on both sets of benches.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: frank black on November 05, 2019, 04:43:20 PM
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/372222-club-statement-carabao-cup-aston-villa

Quote
As a result, we will be utilising two playing squads simultaneously, with one squad participating in the FIFA Club World Cup in Qatar and another in the Carabao Cup.

Wa@@@rs. I will be doing my hair that night ....(once I simmer down Iíll get a ticket really 😉)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 05, 2019, 04:48:07 PM
They knew their first team wouldn't fluke a second result against us so this is their way of saving face and letting the second and third string take the pasting they know they'll get.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Des Little on November 05, 2019, 04:48:23 PM
Suits me.  Hopefully they'll bring a team like the 'celebrity XI' from Porridge the movie
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Villan For Life on November 05, 2019, 04:50:43 PM
I think that this is the best outcome for all concerned, especially us!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: manic-road on November 05, 2019, 04:58:56 PM
Good news for us, hope we give em a hammering.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Des Little on November 05, 2019, 05:00:15 PM
Liverpool's Carabo Cup line up leaked

(https://i.ibb.co/sj4vJf9/image.png) (https://ibb.co/sj4vJf9)


(stolen from twitter)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: kieron on November 05, 2019, 05:07:18 PM
It would be rather embarassing to lose the tie, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: AsTallAsLions on November 05, 2019, 05:09:34 PM
Not sure it's better for us given that their subs improved them and battered us for the last 10 mins on Saturday.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: frank black on November 05, 2019, 05:14:53 PM
Iíve simmered down now, I guess all the teams with bigger fish to fry field the second string......meh  just the idea of them having two teams in two competitions simultaneously that doesnít sit well with me.

If we lose itíll be embarrassing
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Ads on November 05, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
Not sure it's better for us given that their subs improved them and battered us for the last 10 mins on Saturday.

How do you know, you said you stopped watching on 81 minutes.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 05, 2019, 05:31:36 PM
We're making history again
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Villafirst on November 05, 2019, 05:40:15 PM
Really devalues the competition. Will Deano pick a full-strength team?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: KRS on November 05, 2019, 05:46:24 PM
Hopefully Dean puts out a strong enough team to dispatch whatever team turns up wearing Liverpool shirts. Take it seriously and get to the semi final please.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 05, 2019, 06:01:29 PM
Hopefully Dean puts out a strong enough team to dispatch whatever team turns up wearing Liverpool shirts. Take it seriously and get to the semi final please.

This.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: john e on November 05, 2019, 06:05:45 PM
Sure Liverpool played some kids in the last round according to their fans and the media they would have you believe it was a full school kid team when actually the starting line up had Milner, Gomez, Ox, Origi, Keita, Lallana, that's more than half the team of multi million pound talent

What side they put out is anyone's guess but it won't be 11 kids with homework to do when they get home
it will have a few proper experienced players like last time

if Smith plays the same sort of side to last time against Wolves he will just be evening up the odds

depends where you stand on it and how much you want to get through to the semis
I would say if he plays a full strength side or near to and we will be massive favourites and go through
play a weaker team that he thinks will be good enough and we could well lose and their older players will be forgotten about and the kids will have beaten us

I know where I stand, I would be mentally writing in the names of Grealish, McGinn, Mings etc already

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: TopDeck113 on November 05, 2019, 06:17:06 PM
I do actually have a small amount of sympathy for Liverpool.  This potential scenario should have been thought about before the season started.

Ultimately, as others have said, it can only hasten demise of the League Cup, and I for one would mourn its passing.  If it wasn't for the competition they'd be very few of us alive who would be able to say that we'd seen us win a major trophy at Wembley.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: brontebilly on November 05, 2019, 06:26:15 PM
The decision makes a nonsense of a competition which is already in terminal decline.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: john e on November 05, 2019, 07:01:50 PM
The decision makes a nonsense of a competition which is already in terminal decline.

it does seem that way
Yet It can still attract sell out crowds up and down the country given the right draws
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: AV82EC on November 05, 2019, 07:16:09 PM
Iíve always loved the League Cup as weíve invariably treated it seriously. Autumnal and winter nights under the lights, just fantastic.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on November 05, 2019, 07:18:38 PM
I have to say that I am surprised by this decision. At the end of the day we just need to beat whatever team is in front of us.
It will still be a decent side and no pushover.
We should go all out to win and get to the Semi. It will be interesting to see what the ticket price is for this one. I would expect a decent crowd.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: CT on November 05, 2019, 07:26:17 PM
So instead of playing their U23s which they've used for this tournament, we'll now be playing their U23s......🙄

Big chance to reach the Semi Finals.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 05, 2019, 07:32:18 PM
The decision makes a nonsense of a competition which is already in terminal decline.

Last round
Villa Park 34k (alledgedly)
Anfield 52k
Chelsea 38k
Man city 37k
Everton 38k

Not too shabby.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 05, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
Really devalues the competition. Will Deano pick a full-strength team?

I fucking hope so.

I also think we should send another team out to Qatar just in case they fancy having a go at us there, too.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 05, 2019, 07:52:56 PM
The decision makes a nonsense of a competition which is already in terminal decline.

Last round
Villa Park 34k (alledgedly)
Anfield 52k
Chelsea 38k
Man city 37k
Everton 38k

Not too shabby.

And Burton, Crawley and Oxford all got their biggest crowds of the season.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: garyfouroaks on November 05, 2019, 07:57:43 PM
I hear that LFC U12's are a bit handy - there are no easy games...
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 05, 2019, 07:58:46 PM
No win for us potentially. Lose and we get mocked. Win and it will be "you only beat their kids". Would love us to win this tournament.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: walsall villain on November 05, 2019, 08:02:12 PM
No win for us potentially. Lose and we get mocked. Win and it will be "you only beat their kids". Would love us to win this tournament.
Iíve heard that said about us beating Brighton and Wolves so letís go for the hat trick. Itís not our doing or problem
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 05, 2019, 08:09:01 PM
No win? I don't care what lineup they put out, all I care about is getting to the next round.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: danno on November 05, 2019, 08:10:11 PM
Hammer them, they can bask in the glow of a supposed moral victory whilst we prepare for a semi final.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 05, 2019, 08:18:15 PM
It would be rather embarassing to lose the tie, wouldn't it?

Liverpool 11 will still be stronger than the youth teams Brighton and Wolves put out.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dazvillain on November 05, 2019, 08:25:20 PM
Aston Villa
@AVFCOfficial
6m

Our @Carabao_Cup  Quarter-Final clash with Liverpool has been confirmed for Tuesday 17 December (7:45pm KO) as originally scheduled. 📆

This game has been selected for live coverage by Sky Sports and ticket information will be released in due course.

Thatís 5/7 games in December on tv on 1 channel or another
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brassneck on November 05, 2019, 08:27:35 PM
Seems like Liverpool are damned if they do, damned if they don't.  Many were up in arms about the prospect of the game being played in January - Now they're committing to the original fixture date, they are being accused of devaluing the competition.

Personally, I think it is the right decision to field 2 squads for 2 different games, not least because they would have been aware of the potential clash before they kicked off in the competition.

It's noteworthy that the January alternatives were considered to be compromising the scheduling of the competition.  I agree and therefore, the only workable date was the original one.

No blame on Liverpool here whatsoever. 
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on November 05, 2019, 08:32:06 PM
They knew their first team wouldn't fluke a second result against us so this is their way of saving face and letting the second and third string take the pasting they know they'll get.
This.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: London Villan on November 05, 2019, 08:33:03 PM
Its great for us fans, 3 games in 7 days... not so much for the players...
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 05, 2019, 09:28:49 PM
Our match is going to be shown live, on CBBC.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 05, 2019, 10:37:52 PM
Its great for us fans, 3 games in 7 days... not so much for the players...

What about my liver?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: john e on November 05, 2019, 10:41:44 PM
i donít think this game will be decided on the team Liverpool put out but by the team we put out
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: eamonn on November 06, 2019, 12:12:47 AM
Hope it's not a repeat of the last time we played them at VP in December in this competition.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 06, 2019, 12:13:38 AM
i donít think this game will be decided on the team Liverpool put out but by the team we put out

We will go full strength I'm fairly sure. No messing at quarter final stage bar perhaps Steer staying in as cup keeper.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on November 06, 2019, 12:41:10 AM
Liverpool will field a strong team as they can compete in the Qatar bollocks with their reserve team.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Diablo on November 06, 2019, 01:46:52 AM
Liverpool will field a strong team as they can compete in the Qatar bollocks with their reserve team.

Looking at the wiki page the winner gets $5 mill and runner up $4 mill but I'm not sure how up to date those figures are? The prize money will no doubt be a major factor as to what team they put out.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Axl Rose on November 06, 2019, 06:42:13 AM
Hope it's not a repeat of the last time we played them at VP in December in this competition.

Yep. 2002 wasn't it, with all the late kick-off/ticket fuck up, nonsense?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: postal on November 06, 2019, 08:30:02 AM
Liverpool do have a backlog of fixtures to fullfill, and their offical comment seems to be "it is what it is", so they have learnt from Spurs moans from a couple of seasons back. :)

Also we dont have another Saturday 3pm KO until 14 December! ( one is a mid-week ) I'm not sure having fixtures all over the place helps us either. :-\
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 06, 2019, 09:17:49 AM
After all the fuss about the date and all the media attention, it would be the most Villa thing ever to lose to their U18s and we'd never hear the end of it.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: kieron on November 06, 2019, 09:43:23 AM
I do actually have a small amount of sympathy for Liverpool.

Never ever have any level of amount of sympathy for Liverpool Football Club. Ever, ever. Never. Ever.

Ever.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 06, 2019, 09:46:07 AM
Klopp seems to have hinted that they will play a similar team to the last round, which despite containing 5 kids also included a number of 1st team squad players such as Milner, Oxlade, Gomez, Keita, and Origi. These players would then fly out to Qatar and be available for the 2nd of the two matches over there. 

So the prospect of us facing a team made up entirely of U18s may actually be wishful thinking.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 06, 2019, 10:18:57 AM
I think they have to submit a squad for Qatar in advance and can only add a player within 24 hours of their first game in the case of injury or illness.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 06, 2019, 11:09:14 AM
I would think Milner and Oxlade would go Qatar . Id be pissed off if I had to stay here while the rest of the team had a nice break in Qatar and I would expect Fifa  would expect 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' to take all their top players and oxlade looks better than Salah at the moment.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 06, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
Will Salah get a visa? Haven't Qatar fallen out with all the other Arabs?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: West Derby Villan on November 06, 2019, 01:04:30 PM
I do actually have a small amount of sympathy for Liverpool.

Never ever have any level of amount of sympathy for Liverpool Football Club. Ever, ever. Never. Ever.

Ever.


Ever, ever, never, ever......
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on November 06, 2019, 01:17:46 PM
Will Salah get a visa? Haven't Qatar fallen out with all the other Arabs?
It's the other way round as most Arab countries have fallen out with Qatar so I assume they will be grateful for a famous Egyptian coming to their horrible country unless that is the Egyptian authorities threaten Salah with a fate worse than Sadat's.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on November 06, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
After all the fuss about the date and all the media attention, it would be the most Villa thing ever to lose to their U18s and we'd never hear the end of it.

They could send there U23/18 combo team to play in Qatar and play their 1st XI against Villa
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: AsTallAsLions on November 06, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
Not sure it's better for us given that their subs improved them and battered us for the last 10 mins on Saturday.

How do you know, you said you stopped watching on 81 minutes.

A little thing called highlights, the majority of which were in the latter part of the game.

You daft contrary sod.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: avfc456 on November 06, 2019, 01:52:13 PM
I wonder how the club will price this game?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 06, 2019, 06:21:18 PM
Will Salah get a visa? Haven't Qatar fallen out with all the other Arabs?
It's the other way round as most Arab countries have fallen out with Qatar so I assume they will be grateful for a famous Egyptian coming to their horrible country unless that is the Egyptian authorities threaten Salah with a fate worse than Sadat's.

Ah, thanks.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 06, 2019, 08:07:09 PM
Boo hoo Klopp.

The price of success is having to play a lot of games and participate in meaningless, but lucrative competitions.

I don't recall him moaning about the money spinning USA tour they had in the summer. Or the Community Shield. Or travelling to Instanbul for the Super Cup.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: brentastonb6 on November 06, 2019, 09:39:25 PM
Itís just nice that the mighty Villa are back in Vogue, entertaining , have a stadium that is rocking most weeks and therefore wanted on the box 👍
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 06, 2019, 10:41:41 PM
I don't think Deano will play the first team in this match. He hasn't in the cup yet and busy Xmas period will be cited as a reason not to. If the Liverpool team is as decimated as we think this won't be a problem but I'm now far more worried about this match given we're expected to win in the circumstances.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on November 07, 2019, 08:01:16 PM
I'm hoping to get tickets to this. Do you think they'll go on general release?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: purpletrousers on November 07, 2019, 10:49:05 PM
I'm hoping to get tickets to this. Do you think they'll go on general release?

There should be more than the last tie, ST holders wonít be getting theirs automatically/as a freebie, but no idea if itíll go beyond claret/STs. It is on TV too, so eg that does play into the balance of how much itís worth being in the dog house for schlepping off again and getting home gone midnight when I could be changing nappies..
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 07, 2019, 11:07:28 PM
Wonder what allocation we'll give Liverpool. We better not hand them 7000 tickets when they're only entitled to 4200. We should just extend the normal league allocation somehow by 1200 and keep them out of the North Stand.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Flin5tone on November 07, 2019, 11:44:00 PM
There's a few thousand tickets available for the Newcastle Home match and they go on General Sale tomorrow.
suggests the excitement is wearing off , might be our first non sell-out so I think anyone wanting tickets for this will be absolutely fine
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on November 08, 2019, 05:45:41 PM
I've booked the hotel on your say so. You're all dead if I can't get tickets! 😉
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on November 09, 2019, 11:15:51 AM
Can't see any ticket info on Pravda and the fixture list still doesn't show the cup game.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: lennythekad on November 09, 2019, 02:29:51 PM
There's a few thousand tickets available for the Newcastle Home match and they go on General Sale tomorrow.
suggests the excitement is wearing off , might be our first non sell-out so I think anyone wanting tickets for this will be absolutely fine


Think being on TV on a Monday night is the likely reason, mate. If this was Saturday at 3, itíd be sold out by now. What makes you think the excitement is wearing off?

Edit- thereís currently 813 left, and the match is still 16 days away.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: KRS on November 09, 2019, 03:55:09 PM
I looked the other night for tickets for Newcastle game but the Holte was completely sold out and only a few dotted around the ground so got tickets for Leicester instead (no pairs or seats close together in the Holte so ended up getting upper Trinity).
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Ads on November 09, 2019, 03:56:25 PM
There's a few thousand tickets available for the Newcastle Home match and they go on General Sale tomorrow.
suggests the excitement is wearing off , might be our first non sell-out so I think anyone wanting tickets for this will be absolutely fine


Think being on TV on a Monday night is the likely reason, mate. If this was Saturday at 3, itíd be sold out by now. What makes you think the excitement is wearing off?

Edit- thereís currently 813 left, and the match is still 16 days away.

West Ham was the only other one to reach general sale, which was also a Monday night against meh opposition.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 09, 2019, 06:38:40 PM
I looked the other night for tickets for Newcastle game but the Holte was completely sold out and only a few dotted around the ground so got tickets for Leicester instead (no pairs or seats close together in the Holte so ended up getting upper Trinity).

It will sell out no problem.

Think Watford at home in midweek in January is only league game we might not get 40k for in the league and that will mainly due to them not bringing 2k.

Incredible demand to watch us at the moment.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Ads on November 09, 2019, 06:48:46 PM
Just under 500 left now.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 12, 2019, 10:48:56 AM
Eh? How do you buy?

Edit: you're on about Newcastle, I thought we were discussing Liverpool. Anyone know when Liverpool tickets are going on sale?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on November 12, 2019, 12:33:56 PM
I asked AVFCsupport on Twitter and was just told it was TBA.

They also suggested that I sign in and sign up for the Cup Scheme. I signed in and there's no sign of a link to sign up for the Cup Scheme.

The scheme is mentioned in the FAQ but there's no instructions as to how to register
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Scratchins on November 14, 2019, 02:22:12 PM
I asked AVFCsupport on Twitter and was just told it was TBA.

They also suggested that I sign in and sign up for the Cup Scheme. I signed in and there's no sign of a link to sign up for the Cup Scheme.

The scheme is mentioned in the FAQ but there's no instructions as to how to register

Do you have a season ticket? When I open my account, under 'Alerts' there is a link to enrol your season ticket into the cup scheme.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on November 15, 2019, 11:00:12 AM
That's what I finally found out after a back and forth with AVFCSupport

Very poor website layout.

Even after registering, the site is still asking me to register again.

I've DM'd AVFCSupport to check things

EDIT - finally got this sorted
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 11:34:29 AM
I can't get it to work.

Under Liverpool tickets there is a large "COMING SOON", but just above that, in much smaller print, is "Season ticket holders click here to purchase your seat". I click that and it just takes me back to the initial ticketing home page.

I notice that we seem to have given Liverpool the Lower North (presumably in addition to the usual away bit). But the site also says that those in the front three rows of the North Upper will have to move, too.

What's this bollocks? For years people sat above the away fans without the slightest problem, why has this suddenly been deemed an issue?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on November 15, 2019, 12:11:24 PM
Because of the 2015 Baggies debacle ?

Admittedly that was Away fans sitting above Home fans
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 12:26:57 PM
Aaaaaand... No fucker wants to answer the phone. Why have they got rid of the perfectly good phone system that tells you what number you are in the queue and replaced it with one that just rings out for ever? Pathetic customer service. Could our attendee at the next meeting raise this please? Bring back the old phone system!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 12:28:24 PM
Because of the 2015 Baggies debacle ?

Admittedly that was Away fans sitting above Home fans

Yeah, shouldn't be any problem this way round. It was like this every game for nearly thirty years. And it's like it at loads of away grounds.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: FailsworthVillan on November 15, 2019, 12:36:29 PM
I can't get it to work.

Under Liverpool tickets there is a large "COMING SOON", but just above that, in much smaller print, is "Season ticket holders click here to purchase your seat". I click that and it just takes me back to the initial ticketing home page.

I notice that we seem to have given Liverpool the Lower North (presumably in addition to the usual away bit). But the site also says that those in the front three rows of the North Upper will have to move, too.

What's this bollocks? For years people sat above the away fans without the slightest problem, why has this suddenly been deemed an issue?
They donít go on sale until 5 oíclock this evening.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 01:06:47 PM
Ah, cheers.

The phone system is still shite, mind.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 15, 2019, 04:59:01 PM
£33 against Liverpool youth team a week before Christmas is a disgrace and the club have got this massively wrong. The reaction from people on Twitter speaks volumes, the general consensus is that of anger and a lot of people saying they won't be attending now. Makes it worse that Liverpool fans are only paying £20. They should have made it £20 across the ground and it would have sold out, now we'll be looking at a crowd of around 32k-33k and 10k empty seats I reckon.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 15, 2019, 05:26:19 PM
Thirty three sheets? Unbelievable.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 15, 2019, 05:32:20 PM
Wait, Liverpool are being charged £20?? How is that fair on us?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on November 15, 2019, 05:38:55 PM
Got my £20 ticket in the upper holte no problem.
All parts of the ground should be £20 max especially if lobscouse are getting theirs for £20.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on November 15, 2019, 05:59:36 PM
Because of the 2015 Baggies debacle ?

Admittedly that was Away fans sitting above Home fans
Wolves had upper and lower north however the first 3 rows in the upper section were still blocked off. Doesnít make sense.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on November 15, 2019, 06:09:19 PM
Am I missing something daft? When I click on the 'season ticket holders, get your seat' link, I can see all my mates' seats, but not my own.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Goldie.7 on November 15, 2019, 06:09:45 PM
Disgraceful prices.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: chrisw1 on November 15, 2019, 06:12:33 PM
Thirty three sheets? Unbelievable.
That's only the top price tickets.  Majority are £20-£30 which I don't think is too bad for a QF.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: lennythekad on November 15, 2019, 06:30:00 PM
The biggest piss take is them only paying £20 across the board, £10 for kids!.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Mister E on November 15, 2019, 06:35:48 PM
Got my £20 ticket in the upper holte no problem.
All parts of the ground should be £20 max especially if lobscouse are getting theirs for £20.
Well, my Upper Holte ST was £30, so how is it that you have one for £20?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Richard on November 15, 2019, 07:06:49 PM
I'm guessing Abbeyf is in one of the the £20 categories price wise ?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: purpletrousers on November 15, 2019, 07:14:00 PM
Got my £20 ticket in the upper holte no problem.
All parts of the ground should be £20 max especially if lobscouse are getting theirs for £20.
Well, my Upper Holte ST was £30, so how is it that you have one for £20?

A concession?

Theyíve basically gone for Cat C (the cheapest League) pricing, apart from the Lower North away seating which given its our only zone 5 section, theyíve presumably been forced to price match it to the next zone down, 6, hence the £20 adult price.

Iím also not so sure itís a surprisingly high amount, given itís a QF etc
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 15, 2019, 07:33:58 PM
Got my £20 ticket in the upper holte no problem.
All parts of the ground should be £20 max especially if lobscouse are getting theirs for £20.
Well, my Upper Holte ST was £30, so how is it that you have one for £20?

A concession?

Theyíve basically gone for Cat C (the cheapest League) pricing, apart from the Lower North away seating which given its our only zone 5 section, theyíve presumably been forced to price match it to the next zone down, 6, hence the £20 adult price.

Iím also not so sure itís a surprisingly high amount, given itís a QF etc
Against Liverpool reserves, on TV and a week before Christmas. Should have been £20 all round the ground, simple as that.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: FrankyH on November 15, 2019, 07:42:31 PM
£20 a ticket would have probably seen the ground pretty much full. It now gives the half and half daytripping twonks a better chance getting a ticket in the home ends.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 07:47:20 PM
It would be nice if you could check how much a ticket was before clicking on it. The only way back afterwards was to go all the way back to the start. I've bitten the bullet and paid £27 in the upper echelons of the Lower Holte. Just like Rockefeller, me.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2019, 07:55:41 PM
(https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/weblink/1/get.resource/images/1033/1000562.jpg?etag=CA7E5FD802E4473C9DB1931F2F1FF3E8)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJaf9GWXkAA0UQZ?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 15, 2019, 07:56:10 PM
The stadium map is for our league games but it shows where the price zones are.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on November 15, 2019, 08:25:48 PM
Thanks Richard for clarifying that to Mister E.
Prices are dependent on zones.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: frank black on November 15, 2019, 08:56:57 PM
Never thought Iíd ever say this for a QF. Iím gonna give this a miss at £70 for the family so close to Xmas and with Liverpool not really giving a toss.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 09:51:10 PM
The stadium map is for our league games but it shows where the price zones are.

There are different prices within each block in this game. You can't tell how much a given seat is until it is in your basket. If you remove it from your basket you get kicked out back to the ticketing home page. I couldn't be arsed to keep clicking on every seat in the ground to find a cheap one with a good view.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brassneck on November 15, 2019, 10:00:31 PM
The stadium map is for our league games but it shows where the price zones are.

There are different prices within each block in this game. You can't tell how much a given seat is until it is in your basket. If you remove it from your basket you get kicked out back to the ticketing home page. I couldn't be arsed to keep clicking on every seat in the ground to find a cheap one with a good view.

The different prices are adult/pensioner/child.  You can see quite clearly what the price is for any given area (top left hand corner)  The Lower Holte is £27 for an adult across the board with the exception of the corner sections (as shown in PWS link)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 15, 2019, 10:23:58 PM
Nah, I tried different seats in the same block and got different prices.

Edit: sorry, you're probably right it was likely the corner sections I was looking at that were cheaper. Be better if they had colour coded the seats or something when you're looking at a picture of the individual blocks.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brassneck on November 16, 2019, 12:40:06 AM
Before getting as far as individual blocks, you arrive at a stadium seating plan identical to the one PWS posted.  You can then hover over any block anywhere in the ground and it will tell you how many seats are available in that section and the price of the seats.  I really don't see how it could be simpler or clearer.  The club can't be criticised for this set up.

On a side note, there are hardly any seats available currently due to season ticket holders having their seats reserved.  When this deadline passes, there will be thousands more seats available and of course far greater choice.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 16, 2019, 01:25:45 AM
Before getting as far as individual blocks, you arrive at a stadium seating plan identical to the one PWS posted.  You can then hover over any block anywhere in the ground and it will tell you how many seats are available in that section and the price of the seats.  I really don't see how it could be simpler or clearer.  The club can't be criticised for this set up.

On a side note, there are hardly any seats available currently due to season ticket holders having their seats reserved.  When this deadline passes, there will be thousands more seats available and of course far greater choice.

It tells you a range of the price of seats in a given block. So it might say "K6 - 237 seats available £20-£29".

You don't know which are which price until you click on the individual seats.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on November 16, 2019, 10:36:15 AM
So it turns out I enrolled in the cup scheme back in February. Ticket was processed automatically.
Nothing showing on my credit card, and no email to confirm it had gone through. Just the 20 minutes waiting to get through to the ticket office to confirm it this morning.
Seeing as how all away game tickets trigger a confirmation email, and now a dispatch email, seems odd not to do it for this.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Clampy on November 16, 2019, 11:25:43 AM
Regarding the price of the Liverpool tickets, I wonder if Liverpool have subsidised their fans and knocked money off for them like we have done in the past?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 16, 2019, 11:40:51 AM
This will end up being a free for all for 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans. I've already been asked by 2 plastic 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans if I can get them tickets.

Pity. £20 across the board and it would have been a sell out easy.



Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 16, 2019, 11:52:12 AM
Only way it will be is if Villa fans buy their tickets.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 16, 2019, 12:04:20 PM
It tells you a range of the price of seats in a given block. So it might say "K6 - 237 seats available £20-£29".

You don't know which are which price until you click on the individual seats.

K1 is the confusing one as half is zone 4 and the other is zone 6. Back few rows of the North (T1, T2, T4 and T5) and front of the lower Holte (L3-6) are also different zones but you know it's only a few rows. When it says for say K4 "Price Zone 2 £33 to £10" that is covering the concessions prices. So for an adult it's £33 for an U14 it's £10.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 16, 2019, 01:38:16 PM
This will end up being a free for all for 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans. I've already been asked by 2 plastic 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans if I can get them tickets.

Pity. £20 across the board and it would have been a sell out easy.
I agree. It will go to general sale and there will be plastic Liverpool fans all over the ground.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Clampy on November 16, 2019, 01:43:01 PM
This will end up being a free for all for 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans. I've already been asked by 2 plastic 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans if I can get them tickets.

Pity. £20 across the board and it would have been a sell out easy.
I agree. It will go to general sale and there will be plastic Liverpool fans all over the ground.

I don't know about all over the ground, a slight exaggeration. Not for a Tuesday night Carabou Cup game which is on Sky and with half their squad in the middle east.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on November 16, 2019, 01:47:50 PM
If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 16, 2019, 01:58:54 PM
Well, at least there's finally an online option for STHs to buy their own seat.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 16, 2019, 01:59:45 PM
It won't go to general sale. The lowest criteria is 1 home league game since 2016/17. There won't be Liverpool fans "all over the ground" at all.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Clampy on November 16, 2019, 02:00:48 PM
If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!

Liverpool only have downstairs. They have just blocked the first three rows of upstairs. I thought the same as you at first.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Clampy on November 16, 2019, 02:37:34 PM
It won't go to general sale. The lowest criteria is 1 home league game since 2016/17. There won't be Liverpool fans "all over the ground" at all.

Besides, don't you need a booking history even if it went to general sale anyway?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 16, 2019, 02:40:28 PM
I thought that only Krulak could buy one if it went to General Sale?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on November 16, 2019, 02:57:12 PM
If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!

Liverpool only have downstairs. They have just blocked the first three rows of upstairs. I thought the same as you at first.
Ah ha. Thank you.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 16, 2019, 06:31:44 PM
If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!

Liverpool only have downstairs. They have just blocked the first three rows of upstairs. I thought the same as you at first.
Ah ha. Thank you.
They've got 3000 in Lower North and 1500 in the lower tier of the league away end. I thought they had all of the North to begin with aswell.

Just for some context, Everton are charging £20 all across the ground for their quarter v Leicester. Good to see they're sensible.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: purpletrousers on November 16, 2019, 06:43:40 PM
Regarding the price of the Liverpool tickets, I wonder if Liverpool have subsidised their fans and knocked money off for them like we have done in the past?

Donít we have to price match to similar home seats?
As we donít have any other Zone 5 seats (usually £23 at the Cat C they are using), I wondered if they are forced to match to the £20 zone 6. Or yes Liverpool are subsidising the £3...
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: wittonwarrior on November 17, 2019, 10:26:59 AM
Its definitely overpriced for Villa fans, its as if its assumed we are on a  roll to Wembley - I'm not so sure even taking this match into contention.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on November 18, 2019, 03:19:23 PM
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Scratchins on November 18, 2019, 03:40:41 PM
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?

My payment is in credit card 'pending' and my Villa account shows as not yet printed.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on November 18, 2019, 04:00:52 PM
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?

Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine Ė and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dazvillain on November 18, 2019, 05:17:26 PM
If Upper North is given over to away fans why is the official site letting me purchase my own seat there? I have tested it all the way through to payment details!

Liverpool only have downstairs. They have just blocked the first three rows of upstairs. I thought the same as you at first.
Ah ha. Thank you.
They've got 3000 in Lower North and 1500 in the lower tier of the league away end. I thought they had all of the North to begin with aswell.

Just for some context, Everton are charging £20 all across the ground for their quarter v Leicester. Good to see they're sensible.

Bizarre set up of ground allocation, I take it you mean lower north wrapped around to lower DOUG Ellis ?
I wonder if the club has done that to avoid relocating so many as before from upper north ?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Charlie8182 on November 18, 2019, 08:34:22 PM
Iím surprised there hasnít been more made of the ridiculous prices for this game, especially with the away support been fixed at £20 but the home support expected to pay through the nose, so in 40 years of going to Villa for the first ever Iím going to give up my seat for this one. I cannot justify that for what is likely to be like a youth team match, especially at that time of year, my loyalty has been tested a step too far, very disappointing Villa!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 18, 2019, 08:51:08 PM
I just cant be arsed to fork out £33.

You'd have had me at £20, but the price for this game is just not attractive enough given the circumstances of the opposition, so close to Christmas and on the box.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 18, 2019, 08:56:58 PM
I think the club have got the pricing wrong but I don't get why the side Liverpool put out makes any difference. I've seen loads on social media going about playing £30+ to watch us playing Liverpool youth team. Surely people are paying it to watch Villa in a QF and hopefully progressing to a SF rather than paying to watch the opposition? It's not even like we're playing the kids, the only youth players to play in any of the previous 3 rounds were Cam for 10 mins as we had no other strikers, and Ramsey for 10 mins.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 18, 2019, 09:35:38 PM
Too right, PWS. I smell Wembley. The shitter the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' side, the better.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: CT on November 18, 2019, 09:41:58 PM
Too right, PWS. I smell Wembley. The shitter the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' side, the better.

Exactly. I hope they play the U13s, four of which can't play because of school, two who've forgotten their boots and one more who hasn't turned up because he thought he was getting a lift off someone else.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on November 18, 2019, 10:01:17 PM
Quite. I want to watch Villa. Bollocks to the opposition.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 18, 2019, 10:05:08 PM
Too right, PWS. I smell Wembley. The shitter the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' side, the better.

Exactly. I hope they play the U13s, four of which can't play because of school, two who've forgotten their boots and one more who hasn't turned up because he thought he was getting a lift off someone else.
And he is the one with the kit.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Des Little on November 18, 2019, 11:12:19 PM
Too right, PWS. I smell Wembley. The shitter the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' side, the better.

Correct. The shitter the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', the stronger the smell.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: CJ on November 19, 2019, 09:22:19 AM
On the stadium plan if I hover over my seat near the front of K4 for the Liverpool game the cost shows as £30, but this morning my credit card has only been debited for £20.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on November 19, 2019, 10:23:49 AM
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?

Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine Ė and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.

Similar for me.

I checked my credit card this morning and there's no payment or pending payment.

I spoke to a very helpful person in the TO this morning who said that my ticket was showing as processed OK through the Cup Scheme. She confirmed that the payment looked OK as well.

I was a bit puzzled because, even though I'd signed up for the Cup Scheme, I received an email saying that I needed to sign in to buy my ticket.
When I sign in, there's no ticket available to purchase. I assume this is because it's being processed via the CS.

First World Problems and all that.....
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Towser on November 19, 2019, 11:08:20 AM
I am upper Trinity and when I went to the site my tickets were showing as £33 each, I uploaded the cash to my Season Card to use that to purchase my tickets (my Grandson wanted something with my points and I was just under the amount I needed, with the purchase I had enough points) anyway, I have been charged £33 each plus £1 postage.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: CJ on November 19, 2019, 11:40:14 AM
On the stadium plan if I hover over my seat near the front of K4 for the Liverpool game the cost shows as £30, but this morning my credit card has only been debited for £20.

Edit: Just realised my ticket's only £20 because I'm an old fogey. Normal adult price is £30
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on November 19, 2019, 11:54:40 AM
On the stadium plan if I hover over my seat near the front of K4 for the Liverpool game the cost shows as £30, but this morning my credit card has only been debited for £20.

Edit: Just realised my ticket's only £20 because I'm an old fogey. Normal adult price is £30

That must make you happy/sad?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: CJ on November 19, 2019, 12:28:12 PM
Ha! Bit of both - but I'd happily trade a tenner to be a bit younger!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on November 19, 2019, 01:35:25 PM
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?

Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine Ė and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.

Similar for me.

I checked my credit card this morning and there's no payment or pending payment.

I spoke to a very helpful person in the TO this morning who said that my ticket was showing as processed OK through the Cup Scheme. She confirmed that the payment looked OK as well.

I was a bit puzzled because, even though I'd signed up for the Cup Scheme, I received an email saying that I needed to sign in to buy my ticket.
When I sign in, there's no ticket available to purchase. I assume this is because it's being processed via the CS.

First World Problems and all that.....

Payment popped up this morning on my credit card, so I'd say keep checking.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 19, 2019, 04:31:52 PM
I opted to have tickets emailed to me but have received nothing, 24 hours later. Itís usually pretty quick. Anyone else had this?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Skerra on November 19, 2019, 04:52:42 PM
Marlon, I was only given option to have it posted or print myself out an e-ticket, for free, so chose the latter.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 19, 2019, 04:55:29 PM
I opted to have tickets emailed to me but have received nothing, 24 hours later. Itís usually pretty quick. Anyone else had this?
Check your spam, I've had them end up there before.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Drummond on November 21, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
Quite. I want to watch Villa. Bollocks to the opposition.

It's always been the same. There are different category matches depending on the opposition
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on November 21, 2019, 02:25:37 PM
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?

Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine Ė and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.

Similar for me.

I checked my credit card this morning and there's no payment or pending payment.

I spoke to a very helpful person in the TO this morning who said that my ticket was showing as processed OK through the Cup Scheme. She confirmed that the payment looked OK as well.

<snip>

Payment popped up this morning on my credit card, so I'd say keep checking.

Ticket now showing as printed as well, so should be on its way soon.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Towser on November 21, 2019, 02:41:47 PM
I received my tickets yesterday morning in the post.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on November 21, 2019, 10:51:45 PM
Mine arrived today.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 22, 2019, 09:09:03 AM
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Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Scratchins on November 22, 2019, 09:15:29 AM
How do you claim your own seat online? I'm buggered if I can work it out

If you sign in to your online account and go to account details there should be a red alert telling you that there is a seat waiting to be paid for.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 22, 2019, 02:24:39 PM
Ta
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: spartacuss on November 22, 2019, 05:35:51 PM
(Sorry if this has been covered before?)  I'm a Season Ticket holder in the Cup Scheme and when I rang the ticket office on Monday, they assured me that the ticket would be loaded on to my card.  When I scanned the AVFC web site a bit later, it states that issued tickets would be either posted or made available as an e-ticket rather than loaded on to cards.  (At no point was I given the options of post or e-ticket.)  Of course, I can't get through to the TO now.

I still have bad memories of the last league cup quarter final against Liverpool just before Christmas years ago - I've only just thawed out after that ticketing apocalypse!

Anyone wiser on the actual situation?

(Sorry, can't turn the bleedin' italics off!!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Karlos96 on November 22, 2019, 05:41:54 PM
Iím in the cup scheme it says on the app that the amount for the game will be taken from your account on the 15/11/2019 (mine was) and the ticket will be posted w/c 25th.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on November 22, 2019, 06:14:24 PM
Doesn't look like they are selling well!!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: purpletrousers on November 22, 2019, 06:15:19 PM
5pm all the ST seats became available I think.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: CJ on November 22, 2019, 06:43:52 PM
(Sorry if this has been covered before?)  I'm a Season Ticket holder in the Cup Scheme and when I rang the ticket office on Monday, they assured me that the ticket would be loaded on to my card.  When I scanned the AVFC web site a bit later, it states that issued tickets would be either posted or made available as an e-ticket rather than loaded on to cards.  (At no point was I given the options of post or e-ticket.)  Of course, I can't get through to the TO now.

I still have bad memories of the last league cup quarter final against Liverpool just before Christmas years ago - I've only just thawed out after that ticketing apocalypse!

Anyone wiser on the actual situation?

(Sorry, can't turn the bleedin' italics off!!

I rang the ticket office last week just to confirm I was in the cup scheme as I couldn't remember whether I'd done it earlier this season (it's an age thing!). They confirmed I was in the scheme and would get a paper ticket rather than it being loaded onto my ST card. Charge hit my credit card last week but haven't had the ticket yet.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dazvillain on November 22, 2019, 09:26:06 PM
Doesn't look like they are selling well!!

I know there will be a bit of a surge when available to claret members but even so the club have got this completely wrong i think. Bear in mind there are a couple of other home matches around xmas too this year, prices for this are a step too far for many i feel...........

Unless they will be having a BLACK FRIDAY ticket sale !!??
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on November 23, 2019, 10:13:48 AM
About 500 seats free in every block on the Holte. Considering that's pretty much entirely season ticket holders, that's a big message to the club.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 23, 2019, 10:52:23 AM
Can't see this going much over 30,000.

Big bollock dropped by AVFC.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Flin5tone on November 23, 2019, 12:18:21 PM
Season Ticket holder, very rarely miss cup games as they are priced fairly. The price for this so close to Christmas with other Home games over the festive period is shocking. We're playing liverpool reserves,it's on Sky and to add insult the Away fans are paying Twenty Quid. 

Won't even be tempted closer to the date
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on November 23, 2019, 12:52:36 PM
Has anyone in the Cup Scheme had their credit card charged yet ?

Nope, and there's nothing showing as pending. Spoke with the Ticket Office on Saturday and they assured me it had been processed fine Ė and @avfcsupport got back to me today to say the same.
It's showing as not yet printed in my Villa ticket history.

Similar for me.

I checked my credit card this morning and there's no payment or pending payment.

I spoke to a very helpful person in the TO this morning who said that my ticket was showing as processed OK through the Cup Scheme. She confirmed that the payment looked OK as well.

I was a bit puzzled because, even though I'd signed up for the Cup Scheme, I received an email saying that I needed to sign in to buy my ticket.
When I sign in, there's no ticket available to purchase. I assume this is because it's being processed via the CS.

First World Problems and all that.....

Payment popped up this morning on my credit card, so I'd say keep checking.

Payment finally showed up on online Credit Card account on 20th but had a processing date of 18th and an originating date of 15th.

Therefore, I think the problem with Mastercard rather than the Villa TO
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Charlie8182 on November 23, 2019, 04:30:51 PM
Season Ticket holder, very rarely miss cup games as they are priced fairly. The price for this so close to Christmas with other Home games over the festive period is shocking. We're playing liverpool reserves,it's on Sky and to add insult the Away fans are paying Twenty Quid. 

Won't even be tempted closer to the date

The first time in 40 years Iíll choose to miss a game and not retain my seat other than holidays/weddings etc, just canít justify the cost for this one for what will be like a reserve game.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: spangley1812 on November 23, 2019, 05:28:26 PM
Just a thought

When we get to Wembley we will get approx. 23,000 tickets and we have 30,000 season ticket holders

Vast majority of those 30.000 will go to the home semi-final

So I am presuming the club will say that season ticket holders who went to the quarter final get priority ?

Am I wrong ?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: FrankyH on November 23, 2019, 05:32:23 PM
You'd get more than 23,000 for the League Cup .
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 23, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
It's about 34k for the LC final.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 24, 2019, 07:23:39 AM
Looks like only around 20k tickets sold after season ticket holders have had their window and members have had a couple of days aswell. As predicted, the club have royally messed up with the prices and it looks like it will be a sub 30k crowd. Three home games at the most expensive time of year and they make the prices £33 in some areas for a reserve game, baffling.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Clampy on November 24, 2019, 09:26:41 AM
Looks like only around 20k tickets sold after season ticket holders have had their window and members have had a couple of days aswell. As predicted, the club have royally messed up with the prices and it looks like it will be a sub 30k crowd. Three home games at the most expensive time of year and they make the prices £33 in some areas for a reserve game, baffling.

It's not a reserve game but the prices should be lower.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: The Edge on November 24, 2019, 11:13:41 AM
Looks like only around 20k tickets sold after season ticket holders have had their window and members have had a couple of days aswell. As predicted, the club have royally messed up with the prices and it looks like it will be a sub 30k crowd. Three home games at the most expensive time of year and they make the prices £33 in some areas for a reserve game, baffling.

It's not a reserve game but the prices should be lower.
Should be 20 quid a ticket to make sure the ground is full. And if you look at the other thread about customer services it's quite a worrying trend.Someone needs to get a grip of things at VP pronto before we lose the momentum that's bult up over the last few months.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on November 24, 2019, 11:18:17 AM
Liverpool may be playing stiffs, but that doesn't mean Villa will be. I hope we go with a strong line up to bag the semi place.

The prices are another matter. The club have simply got it wrong on this occasion.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 24, 2019, 11:56:40 AM
Would people prefer to pay the £30 if they were almost guaranteed to see us getting our pants pulled down by their first choice eleven?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Demitri_C on November 24, 2019, 11:59:07 AM
Would people prefer to pay the £30 if they were almost guaranteed to see us getting our pants pulled down by their first choice eleven?

Good point. I think it would still sell out however.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Flin5tone on November 30, 2019, 10:44:20 AM
Still looks like nobody's buying tickets for this one, was expecting a flash sale yesterday, but nothing. I think wr may struggle to get 25k, 500 seats + in most blocks of the Holte End
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: manic-road on November 30, 2019, 11:06:11 AM
The club have definitely overpriced this game, I'm still going but £10 for a fairly local derby followed by a £30 ticket for the next round against Plops youth team is ridiculous.

A full house would help the team more.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Davkaus on November 30, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Still looks like nobody's buying tickets for this one, was expecting a flash sale yesterday, but nothing. I think wr may struggle to get 25k, 500 seats + in most blocks of the Holte End

Given how hard it's been to get tickets this season, I thought it'd still get close to a sell out, and I suspect the club did as well. It's going to be by far the flattest atmosphere of the season, which is a bit depressing for a QF.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: AVH87 on November 30, 2019, 08:39:18 PM
Would people prefer to pay the £30 if they were almost guaranteed to see us getting our pants pulled down by their first choice eleven?

Good point. I think it would still sell out however.

In fairness though £30 for world class players like Salah and Mane on display is a bit different to £30 for Brewster and whoever else normally plays for their U-23s.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bobby Boy on November 30, 2019, 09:45:53 PM
Would people prefer to pay the £30 if they were almost guaranteed to see us getting our pants pulled down by their first choice eleven?

Good point. I think it would still sell out however.

In fairness though £30 for world class players like Salah and Mane on display is a bit different to £30 for Brewster and whoever else normally plays for their U-23s.

I understand your point but did you see Salah in the league game at our place?Shockingly poor. Hauled off after an hour. Thought they were playing his doppelganger.... Liverpool can play who they want. I just want us to get through and be 180 minutes from a final.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 30, 2019, 11:11:33 PM
£33 is a pricing error for this one, I'm afraid.

For all the 'we're playing a full side, I'm going to watch us' argument (which is a fair shout), ultimately people know Liverpool don't really care about it, and close to xmas, I understand why there's not much interest in a moribund competition.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: TheMalandro on December 01, 2019, 10:45:59 AM
Has this gone to general sale now? I thought it was about a weeks time.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: tomd2103 on December 01, 2019, 11:46:15 AM
£33 is a pricing error for this one, I'm afraid.

For all the 'we're playing a full side, I'm going to watch us' argument (which is a fair shout), ultimately people know Liverpool don't really care about it, and close to xmas, I understand why there's not much interest in a moribund competition.

Think Liverpool do care about it, but have been handed a bit of a scheduling nightmare. 
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 03, 2019, 10:38:19 AM
Still under 25k tickets sold. What a cock up.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: darren woolley on December 03, 2019, 02:06:24 PM
Got mine yesterday still plenty left.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 03, 2019, 09:44:14 PM
It'll be pay on the door at this rate.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Des Little on December 04, 2019, 12:05:40 AM
Theyíve definitely dropped a clanger with this pricing.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: spangley1812 on December 04, 2019, 04:59:56 AM
It'll be pay on the door at this rate.

I cant see that happening or they would run the risk of hundreds of Liverpool fans being in the home stands 
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 04, 2019, 07:56:51 AM
It'll be pay on the door at this rate.

I cant see that happening or they would run the risk of hundreds of Liverpool fans being in the home stands
nothing new there then.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 04, 2019, 08:08:58 AM
It'll be pay on the door at this rate.

I cant see that happening or they would run the risk of hundreds of Liverpool fans being in the home stands 

I was being facetious to be honest, but taking your point, I think there will be pockets of local 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans in home areas with Villa fans handing over booking history
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: bilsim on December 05, 2019, 10:57:12 AM
Liddypool have just announced the squad they're taking to the CWC and it's completely full strength, so it'll be their u23's that we play against. I'd heard some rumblings that one or two may have been kept back for the game at VP but clearly not.

It's been said a few times but this really is a huge error from Villa to make tickets so pricey, still thousands of seats available and the game is a fortnight away. Quite embarrassing really.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: DB on December 05, 2019, 11:16:22 AM
Their 1st match is on Dec 18th. Letís face it, the League Cup is a reserve competition nowadays anyway, but still a bit pricey.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bad English on December 05, 2019, 11:26:15 AM
It'll be pay on the door at this rate.

I cant see that happening or they would run the risk of hundreds of Liverpool fans being in the home stands 

I was being facetious to be honest, but taking your point, I think there will be pockets of local 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fans in home areas with Villa fans handing over booking history
None of the Brummie 'Reds' I know have ever asked me to get them a ticket. If they did it would be 'No chance!'.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: danno on December 05, 2019, 11:28:43 AM
Are all the quarter finals televised?  Not complaining, it just seems an odd game to broadcast if Sky know it's going to be Liverpool's reserves.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 05, 2019, 11:36:49 AM
It's televised.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dave P on December 05, 2019, 11:49:45 AM
Wow https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/liverpool-announce-squad-for-qatar-revealing-who-wont-play-vs-aston-villa/

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Possible XI vs. Villa: Kelleher; Hoever, Koumetio, Van den Berg, Larouci; Dixon-Bonner, Chirivella, Kane, Lewis; Longstaff, Stewart.

What an opportunity for us to progress!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: danno on December 05, 2019, 11:53:06 AM
It's televised.

Ta, looked it up and the other three ties are played the next day. I thought Everton Leicester might have been shown.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 05, 2019, 11:56:15 AM
Everton Leicester would have been a much more sensible choice!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Reuben on December 05, 2019, 12:25:39 PM
Their youngsters couldn't beat Fleetwood, Accrington or Oldham in the Leyland Daf Cup
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on December 05, 2019, 12:38:03 PM
Anyone else not received their ticket yet? Few of us in L3, and the cup scheme, haven't got ours.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dave P on December 05, 2019, 01:04:52 PM
Anyone else not received their ticket yet? Few of us in L3, and the cup scheme, haven't got ours.

Only got mine this week and Iím cup scheme too.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: olaftab on December 05, 2019, 01:13:51 PM
Wow https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/liverpool-announce-squad-for-qatar-revealing-who-wont-play-vs-aston-villa/

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Possible XI vs. Villa: Kelleher; Hoever, Koumetio, Van den Berg, Larouci; Dixon-Bonner, Chirivella, Kane, Lewis; Longstaff, Stewart.

What an opportunity for us to progress!
These boys are highly rated and will present a tough challenge. So Dean MUST select the strongest possible XI to ensure we stand a chance of progressing.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Davkaus on December 05, 2019, 07:00:23 PM
Theyíve definitely dropped a clanger with this pricing.

Yup. Really a shame.

From the previous round being an absolutely packed out VP, to a QF that's going to have thousands of empty seats. It was always going to be a bit flat with Liverpool playing the kids, but the club have really done their bit to ensure it'll be the least atmospheric game of the season.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on December 06, 2019, 01:39:57 PM
Anyone else not received their ticket yet? Few of us in L3, and the cup scheme, haven't got ours.

Only got mine this week and Iím cup scheme too.

Cheers. Mine finally arrived today.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bad English on December 06, 2019, 04:03:34 PM
Wow https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/liverpool-announce-squad-for-qatar-revealing-who-wont-play-vs-aston-villa/

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Possible XI vs. Villa: Kelleher; Hoever, Koumetio, Van den Berg, Larouci; Dixon-Bonner, Chirivella, Kane, Lewis; Longstaff, Stewart.

What an opportunity for us to progress!
A Brummie 'Red' mate of mine reckons that this should be good for Villa but it is 'unfair to other clubs'.

Well, the draw is the draw, and tough shit for choosing the money over the Carabao Egg Cup!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pat McMahon on December 06, 2019, 05:58:33 PM
Theyíve definitely dropped a clanger with this pricing.

Yup. Really a shame.

From the previous round being an absolutely packed out VP, to a QF that's going to have thousands of empty seats. It was always going to be a bit flat with Liverpool playing the kids, but the club have really done their bit to ensure it'll be the least atmospheric game of the season.

I had a look earlier after receiving an email from the club and there must be 10k seats left. There are even seats left in the centre of the Holte. No way will it be a sell out.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dave P on December 06, 2019, 07:30:39 PM
Just hope they remember the fans who did go when tickets for the final are being dished out 😉
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on December 06, 2019, 09:18:57 PM
None of these players will be playing at Villa park.

Alisson, Adrian Lonergan,

Van Dijk, Lovren,Gomez Robertson, Alexander-Arnold

Milner, Keita, Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Shaqiri,

Salah, Mane, Firmino, Origi

No one single one of them.

Villa win whatever team we put out!!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 06, 2019, 09:33:21 PM
They're probably still better than Bradford, Leyton Orient, Peterborough, Doncaster or Small Heath, among other minnows we have somehow managed to get knocked out by in the last few years. We should get through but I wouldn't want to take too many liberties. Pick a strongish side and don't give them any encouragement whatsoever please, Villa.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 06, 2019, 10:18:20 PM
Dean Smith, 90 minutes from a semifinal in his first full season as Aston Villa head coach. I think we'll be putting out a pretty strong side.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on December 06, 2019, 11:05:32 PM
Nyland in goal.
Hause and Konsa centre defence
Elmo and Taylor full backs
Lansbury Luiz Hourihane
Grealish Kodjia Jota up front
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 06, 2019, 11:11:30 PM
Nyland

Elmo
Chester
Hauser
Taylor

Jota
Lansbury
Hourihane
Nakamba
Ramsey

Kodjia

Subs: Kalinic, Guilbert, Engels, McGinn, Grealish, Trezeguet, Wesley
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: purpletrousers on December 07, 2019, 12:57:22 AM
Wow https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/liverpool-announce-squad-for-qatar-revealing-who-wont-play-vs-aston-villa/

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Possible XI vs. Villa: Kelleher; Hoever, Koumetio, Van den Berg, Larouci; Dixon-Bonner, Chirivella, Kane, Lewis; Longstaff, Stewart.

What an opportunity for us to progress!

That link has an update

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Edit: Further plans were revealed afterwards suggesting Liverpool hope to play four players against Villa before flying them out to Qatar Ė see here for more details.
https://www.thisisanfield.com/2019/12/journalist-reveals-young-reds-quartet-will-face-aston-villa-then-fly-to-qatar/

Which says
quartet of Curtis Jones, Rhian Brewster, Harvey Elliott and Neco Williams./
 quartet can play against Villa, then be flown out to Qatar as part of the senior squad.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 07, 2019, 01:11:17 AM
Play the side that won at Crewe or anything resembling it and we will win. Zero fucking around and complacency please. Weíve been handed a very lucky draw. Be professional and get to the semi final.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Meanwood Villa on December 07, 2019, 08:39:42 AM
Was talking to a Liverpool fan the other day and he said if they beat us in the quarters it will be one of the best results in their history. Not sure what to make of that other than it will be very embarrassing to lose.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Richard on December 08, 2019, 10:56:47 AM
It will be like the Wolves cup game so as long as we are professional and Dean plays a fairly strong side we will win. The league game against Southampton is more important whether we like it or not.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 08, 2019, 01:44:13 PM
I'm sure the club have looked at the numbers and concluded 'crikey, we've cocked up here'.

Disappointed that they've not addressed it with the fans. A couple of weeks ago they could have amended the prices and refunded those who had bought tickets via their season cards.

They're now stuck with a sub 30k crowd. Pity.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dazvillain on December 10, 2019, 01:25:06 PM
Circa 11,800 tickets on general sale. Canít believe the club has got this so wrong for a day of a quarter final cup tie when the boys will need a great support against an athletic 11 who have nothing to lose .
Real real shame , a Unusual marketing  in the current climate
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Diablo on December 10, 2019, 02:12:54 PM
Following the sad news on Saturday, for me, the League Cup takes on even greater significance. I wish the club would sort out their pricing gaff and pull something out the bag so that there's a full house cheering us on to victory.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Risso on December 10, 2019, 02:16:27 PM
I'm sure the club have looked at the numbers and concluded 'crikey, we've cocked up here'.

Disappointed that they've not addressed it with the fans. A couple of weeks ago they could have amended the prices and refunded those who had bought tickets via their season cards.

They're now stuck with a sub 30k crowd. Pity.

I think the atmosphere will be like a library.  Small crowd watching Liverpool's youth team.  Might not bother with this one.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: danno on December 10, 2019, 02:20:15 PM
It won't happen, but I'd love it (love it!) if we just played our strongest side and put as many past them as we could.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Chris Smith on December 10, 2019, 03:13:27 PM
I'm sure the club have looked at the numbers and concluded 'crikey, we've cocked up here'.

Disappointed that they've not addressed it with the fans. A couple of weeks ago they could have amended the prices and refunded those who had bought tickets via their season cards.

They're now stuck with a sub 30k crowd. Pity.

Particularly in the week before Christmas when crowds will often dip anyway.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Des Little on December 10, 2019, 11:06:27 PM
I know of 8 ST holders (from different friendship groups) who arenít going to a quarter final game at home. Tells you everything.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: castlefields_villan on December 11, 2019, 11:53:05 AM
It won't happen, but I'd love it (love it!) if we just played our strongest side and put as many past them as we could.

5-1 would be nice, seeing as the date of the game is close to the anniversary of another one against them.  (or better still 7-1 or 8-1, as I remember we should have added at least a couple to our first half total after the break).
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 11, 2019, 07:08:35 PM
29k sold. Southampton and Norwich games both sold out. Just shows how wrong the club have got this game.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: dcdavecollett on December 11, 2019, 11:51:02 PM
I'm sure the two other games being so close has affected the attendance for the LC game, but the pricing is just wrong.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 11, 2019, 11:56:26 PM
I'm not going.

Mixture of price, having lots of other nights out this time of year, uninspiring opposition of the Liverpool Paper Boys XI, general apathy around it.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 12, 2019, 12:11:30 AM
They're probably still better than Bradford, Leyton Orient, Peterborough, Doncaster or Small Heath, among other minnows we have somehow managed to get knocked out by in the last few years. We should get through but I wouldn't want to take too many liberties. Pick a strongish side and don't give them any encouragement whatsoever please, Villa.

In terms of quality relative to their absolute first choice 11, it will be very similar to what Wolves put out v us. We maybe made harder work of that than we should but once we got to 2-1 Wolves barely created anything as their 16 and 17 year olds tired after an hour which is always a problem for young sides when they play an experienced team in a cup competition.

We should be winning this no excuses even if we don't go totally full strength.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Brazilian Villain on December 12, 2019, 01:33:46 AM
We should be winning this no excuses even if we don't go totally full strength.

Agree 100%, got some woolly backs at work so the thought of losing to the Red Scouse kids is unbearable.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: London Villan on December 12, 2019, 03:08:51 AM
Have Liverpool sold their allocation?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: lennythekad on December 12, 2019, 05:28:09 PM
Just had a look. They were selling a limited number of tickets, today. Limited to four per qualifying person, which suggests thereís no great clamour for them. It also doesnít count on their fans away histories.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 12, 2019, 09:33:15 PM
This has Banana skin written all over it.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 13, 2019, 12:03:01 AM
Yeah. Losing to Liverpool's under-12's would be peak 2010s Villa.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 13, 2019, 08:05:51 AM
This has Banana skin written all over it.

It does make me kind of nervous. Lads with no fear and bags of energy, plus the chance to impress the manager, who'll no doubt be watching on the box
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Dave P on December 13, 2019, 05:12:41 PM
Hmm so I think they have realised that the pricing was wrong and season ticket holders can buy a ticket for £20.  Those who have already brought a ticket at a higher price will get a £10 refreshment voucher in the post.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 13, 2019, 05:23:05 PM
Good.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Towser on December 13, 2019, 05:59:05 PM
Hmm so I think they have realised that the pricing was wrong and season ticket holders can buy a ticket for £20.  Those who have already brought a ticket at a higher price will get a £10 refreshment voucher in the post.
Ha, I just had that email as well.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Chris Stares on December 13, 2019, 06:28:01 PM
Hmm so I think they have realised that the pricing was wrong and season ticket holders can buy a ticket for £20.  Those who have already brought a ticket at a higher price will get a £10 refreshment voucher in the post.
Ha, I just had that email as well.
Yep - me too.  They obviously thought they would easily sell the seats unclaimed by ST holders and any other seats too.  Clearly this uptake has failed to materialise so their petty money-grab by charging us more than the away fans has backfired on them and they're now desperately trying to reclaim the situation.  It was also interesting to see them, in the text of the email, not-so-subtley trying to lay the blame at Liverpool's door rather than acknowledging their own petty plan had backfired on them:
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The decision to modify prices for Season Ticket Holders comes after Liverpool FC have made clear their intentions in the competition.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: KKAVFC on December 13, 2019, 06:52:18 PM
I wonder if Claret Club members who paid the £30 will get a refund as I've had no such e-mail ?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 13, 2019, 06:56:17 PM
I wonder if Claret Club members who paid the £30 will get a refund as I've had no such e-mail ?

ST holders only. It's a 72 hour window to buy a ticket for £20 if they haven't already, if they already have they get a £10 concourse voucher to be used at any home game this season.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on December 13, 2019, 06:58:06 PM
To be honest I would rather have the £10 refunded as I don't really want to spend it at the ground. As far as I can see I have lost out for getting my ticket early and paying up front. Those who decided not to go for whatever reason have a better deal!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 13, 2019, 07:04:16 PM
Yeah, a refund would have been better. Or at least the option to use it against the ticket price for the home leg if we get through. Ah well.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 13, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Good gesture but a week or two too late and I can't see it having a big impact on the crowd size. They should have done this when they realised hardly any season ticket holders bought their seat.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Skerra on December 13, 2019, 08:16:33 PM
Problem is I paid £33 as a season ticket holder, for my seat. So still £3 worse off than if I had not claimed my seat too early. Hopefully, they will learn from their mistake but wonít hold my breath!!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on December 13, 2019, 11:04:45 PM
Problem is I paid £33 as a season ticket holder, for my seat. So still £3 worse off than if I had not claimed my seat too early. Hopefully, they will learn from their mistake but wonít hold my breath!!
Exactly. The club have made a huge mistake with the pricing of this match and even with this "gesture" I am still out of pocket. Even the £10 I am getting back still has to be spent at the ground so they are not really giving me anything.
In the 30+ years I have had a season ticket I have not missed a home cup tie and I feel a bit cheated!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: andyh on December 14, 2019, 10:07:58 AM
If I  buy something for £4 with my £10 voucher, I doubt I  will get any change in either cash or vouchers.
Itíll be use £10 or lose the difference.

Massive mistake by the club.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: GarTomas on December 14, 2019, 10:16:26 AM
Iíd expect them to load the £10 onto my card as Villa Cash to spend as I see fit.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: FrankyH on December 14, 2019, 10:44:33 AM
Is every season ticket holder getting £10 voucher. I got a £30 ticket as soon as the window opened.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 14, 2019, 11:41:23 AM
Good gesture but a week or two too late and I can't see it having a big impact on the crowd size. They should have done this when they realised hardly any season ticket holders bought their seat.

Agree with this. Also, the admin cost for printing vouchers and posting. Wouldn't it have been easier to put the £10 cash on everyone's season card?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: CJ on December 14, 2019, 12:53:44 PM
Iíd expect them to load the £10 onto my card as Villa Cash to spend as I see fit.

That would have been the sensible thing to do, but it definitely states a concourse catering refreshment voucher. Like others, I never buy any refreshments on the concourse and don't plan to. The club really dropped a bollock with this.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: CJ on December 14, 2019, 01:40:52 PM
Just to round off the evening looks like the M5 link from the M6 will be closed at 10:00
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 14, 2019, 02:03:42 PM
Anyone getting a voucher is getting something free, just enjoy a couple of free drinks or some food on the club that you weren't expecting to get when you bought the ticket.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on December 14, 2019, 02:09:00 PM
Except that they aren't free drinks or food because I have paid up front for them.
If I am getting a partial refund it should be up to me how and where I spend it!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 14, 2019, 02:11:13 PM
Except that they aren't free drinks or food because I have paid up front for them.
If I am getting a partial refund it should be up to me how and where I spend it!

Were you execting that refund/voucher when you bought the ticket? No you weren't so it is free.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 14, 2019, 02:27:19 PM
Except it's not. Punters have already shelled out the ticket money and might not want the dodgy pies on offer.

Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 14, 2019, 02:29:29 PM
Except it's not. Punters have already shelled out the ticket money and might not want the dodgy pies on offer.



Whether they want it ot not, they're not paying for it so it's free. The ticket prices were a mistake; the vouchers are a partial recompense.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 14, 2019, 02:30:53 PM
Good grief, it is free. You may not like what has been offered but it is still free as no one that had bought a ticket was expecting it.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on December 14, 2019, 02:31:19 PM
I wasn't expecting to be overcharged. People who didn't want / couldn't be bothered to go now have a better deal than me.

I have paid £33 for a £20 ticket. I have been overcharged and should get my money back.
I am getting a voucher for drinks / food I don't want.

Those drinks are not free!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 14, 2019, 02:34:11 PM
I wasn't expecting to be overcharged. People who didn't want / couldn't be bothered to go now have a better deal than me.

I have paid £33 for a £20 ticket. I have been overcharged and should get my money back.
I am getting a voucher for drinks / food I don't want.

Those drinks are not free!

So you weren't expecting to pay the price you did when you ordered your ticket?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 14, 2019, 02:41:41 PM
I wasn't expecting to be overcharged. People who didn't want / couldn't be bothered to go now have a better deal than me.

I have paid £33 for a £20 ticket. I have been overcharged and should get my money back.
I am getting a voucher for drinks / food I don't want.

Those drinks are not free!

Good things come to those who wait. ;)

Too soon?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 14, 2019, 02:58:51 PM
The issue is that fans that were put off by the higher price and now being offered a lower price to attend, while those who have already stumped up in full are being fobbed off with a voucher, which is not the cash equivalent of a refund as the chances are that it will not be spent to the exact cash value. The fare on offer by way of catering is average at best and a lot of fans don't even use the facility.

It's not the end of the world by any means, but a refund to bank accounts or, even to the season cards shouldn't have been too much of a stretch for the club.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on December 14, 2019, 05:01:14 PM
I wasn't expecting to be overcharged. People who didn't want / couldn't be bothered to go now have a better deal than me.

I have paid £33 for a £20 ticket. I have been overcharged and should get my money back.
I am getting a voucher for drinks / food I don't want.

Those drinks are not free!

So you weren't expecting to pay the price you did when you ordered your ticket?

Now back to this. I expect to pay the same price as any other season ticket holder. If anything I should get a better deal for buying early / reserving my seat.
This hasn't happened and I feel cheated. Not a massive deal but the facts are that I have been overcharged and not refunded correctly.
Out of interest - Did you buy a ticket early and pay the full price?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on December 14, 2019, 05:02:13 PM
The issue is that fans that were put off by the higher price and now being offered a lower price to attend, while those who have already stumped up in full are being fobbed off with a voucher, which is not the cash equivalent of a refund as the chances are that it will not be spent to the exact cash value. The fare on offer by way of catering is average at best and a lot of fans don't even use the facility.

It's not the end of the world by any means, but a refund to bank accounts or, even to the season cards shouldn't have been too much of a stretch for the club.

Exactly.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 14, 2019, 05:04:08 PM
For all those wanting to put a scratch team out it's really important we win this now and by a few goals just to give everyone a lift ahead of Southampton-Norwich-Watford which is going to be a defining point of the season.

Losing to Liverpool kids will just ramp the pressure up even more, we don't want that obviously.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 14, 2019, 06:17:50 PM
We're going to lose this against a bunch of kids aren't we?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 14, 2019, 06:38:08 PM
We're going to lose this against a bunch of kids aren't we?

Think it will be similar game to Wolves.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 14, 2019, 07:46:07 PM
Smith has to use this game to get some confidence but also to prepare for Saturday which is much more important.
He could rest the key players for fear of injury and to play down itís relevance, or pick his strongest team for a confidence building win.
I think he will play 4 3 3 with Wesley up front for a change.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: levico on December 15, 2019, 10:58:12 AM
All my enthusiasm for this game has been drained by our lamentable league form.

Maybe something extraordinary will happen on the night.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bobby Boy on December 15, 2019, 11:21:53 AM
All my enthusiasm for this game has been drained by our lamentable league form.

Maybe something extraordinary will happen on the night.

We have more to lose than to gain here. Even an 8-0 win will be explained away by the callow nature of the opposition. Let's just get through and forget about it.

I'm actually looking forward to it as respite from the emotional hailstorm that is the league right now.

A semi-final would be something to feel good about too.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Axl Rose on December 15, 2019, 11:23:59 AM
Let's just smash Liverpool.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Risso on December 15, 2019, 11:24:55 AM
I think the atmosphere on Tuesday will be flatter than a glass of week old lemonade. 
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: BoVillan esq on December 15, 2019, 12:06:24 PM
I think the atmosphere on Tuesday will be flatter than a glass of week old lemonade.

You obviously don't buy lemonade from Aldi......wowser!!!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: darren woolley on December 16, 2019, 09:24:49 AM
I'm looking forward to it we could be in a Semi Final if we win then who knows what will happen.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Meanwood Villa on December 16, 2019, 10:13:14 AM
No doubt the league form has dampened people's enthusiasm, mine included, but this is a golden opportunity to get to a semi final and I fully expect us to take it. Win a few over Xmas as well and everyone will be bang up for getting to Wembley.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on December 16, 2019, 10:17:54 AM
I'm looking forward to it we could be in a Semi Final if we win then who knows what will happen.

Man Utd
Man City
Or Everton /Leicester

I like Everton to beat Leicester !
If they don't would have Man utd as choice over 2 legs

Having to play Leicester or Man city over 2 legs be defensively painful but maybe some sort of fun for goal laden scorelines.

Everton I don't mind to take on.
Wesley favourite team to play against !
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on December 16, 2019, 10:20:10 AM
We know Villa name is on the cup if we Oxford and Colchester get through and have one of them in the semis

And then Everton in final.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: LukeJames on December 16, 2019, 10:22:09 AM
Playing a lower league team over 2 legs in a Semi final of the League Cup? what could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 16, 2019, 10:23:34 AM
We didn't too well last time we played Oxford in the semis! I won't believe our name is on the cup till I see Chester whacking Grealish on the head with the trophy!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on December 16, 2019, 10:31:46 AM
Playing a lower league team over 2 legs in a Semi final of the League Cup? what could possibly go wrong?

And doesn't Dean Smith know it.
He certainly will be reminding the players if that becomes the situation.
That's the positive of having one of our own in charge he won't allow for such a circumstance.
The front foot attacking football means our better players will go out to win the games.
Up the villa ,!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: UK Redsox on December 16, 2019, 03:01:57 PM
Prices have been reduced for ST holders and those of us that have already purchased will get a food/drink voucher

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Aston Villa is delighted to announce an exclusive offer to Season Ticket Holders for our Carabao Cup quarter final tie with Liverpool at Villa Park on Tuesday December 17th.

For a 72-hour period, Season Ticket Holders who have not secured a seat for the game can purchase a ticket for any part of the stadium for just £20 per adult, subject to availability.

As a gesture of goodwill to those Season Ticket Holders who have already bought at the previously arranged prices, they will receive a £10 concourse catering refreshment voucher to be redeemed at any of the remaining matches at Villa Park this season.

The decision to modify prices for Season Ticket Holders comes after Liverpool FC have made clear their intentions in the competition.

Our twin priorities are to fill Villa Park for this game and offer our most loyal supporters Ė our Season Ticket Holders - the best possible value. We hope Season Ticket Holders who have already bought their match tickets for the game understand that the decision to modify prices is not taken lightly and has been made due to the unique nature of this fixture.

Season Ticket Holders who have not yet bought a seat for the game should contact the club in the normal manner. Those Season Ticket Holders who have already purchased their ticket for the game will receive their refreshment voucher, which can be used to buy any food or drink within the stadium, by post this month.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Chipsticks on December 16, 2019, 03:07:52 PM
Prices have been reduced for ST holders and those of us that have already purchased will get a food/drink voucher

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Aston Villa is delighted to announce an exclusive offer to Season Ticket Holders for our Carabao Cup quarter final tie with Liverpool at Villa Park on Tuesday December 17th.

For a 72-hour period, Season Ticket Holders who have not secured a seat for the game can purchase a ticket for any part of the stadium for just £20 per adult, subject to availability.

As a gesture of goodwill to those Season Ticket Holders who have already bought at the previously arranged prices, they will receive a £10 concourse catering refreshment voucher to be redeemed at any of the remaining matches at Villa Park this season.

The decision to modify prices for Season Ticket Holders comes after Liverpool FC have made clear their intentions in the competition.

Our twin priorities are to fill Villa Park for this game and offer our most loyal supporters Ė our Season Ticket Holders - the best possible value. We hope Season Ticket Holders who have already bought their match tickets for the game understand that the decision to modify prices is not taken lightly and has been made due to the unique nature of this fixture.

Season Ticket Holders who have not yet bought a seat for the game should contact the club in the normal manner. Those Season Ticket Holders who have already purchased their ticket for the game will receive their refreshment voucher, which can be used to buy any food or drink within the stadium, by post this month.

Obviously they're starting to panic about having an empty ground then.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 16, 2019, 03:51:19 PM
So they're blaming the Liverpool line up for the poor uptake in sales?

Why not just admit, we got it wrong?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on December 16, 2019, 04:51:19 PM
It seems a shame that some Villa fans are further belittling the game tomorrow night, besides what the lobscouse may or may not be doing. For example some kids maybe attending Villa Park for the first time under the lights with their parents and grandparents and for them it will be a huge event in their lives, where the bond between club, parents and offspring will be fostered.
My first game was with my dad all those years ago when Little and Gidman were involved in the youth cup vs scum. I didn't spend the match counting the numbers in the crowd, but enjoying something that was to become routine with my dad that was to see us through to my adulthood.
Needless to say enjoy the game and as always UTV!
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Damo70 on December 16, 2019, 07:25:11 PM
We didn't too well last time we played Oxford in the semis! I won't believe our name is on the cup till I see Chester whacking Grealish on the head with the trophy!


As well as Oxford and Bradford doing us in League Cup semi finals we didn't exactly have a picnic against Colchester when they took us to penalties in the second round in 1979.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Pete3206 on December 16, 2019, 07:44:08 PM
Can we please get to semis first?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: john e on December 16, 2019, 09:14:31 PM
Iím dreading this game

I so want to win it but havenít got much confidence in the likes of Taylor, Elmo, Lansbury etc being able to boss anything
I decided not to go because I just didnít want to risk my kids having to endure Liverpool pre school kids giving us the run around on our own pitch

hope Iím wrong obvs

if we do get through to Wembley  Iíll be there glory hunting like a good un though
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on December 17, 2019, 09:49:09 AM
The Liverpool under 23 team villa play
No form no win in last 3 matches for them
December form:
1-1 away at Huddersfield Dec 2
1-1 failing to beat Chelsea under 23 playing against 10 men for last 20 mins Dec 14

11 days ago their last away match hammered 4-0 to spurs.

Basically Villa quite easily get 5 - 10 goals.
The opposition tonight will make errors , give away possession and penalities as they are not yet fully at developed stage compared to premier league player.

One or two may show something of merit but realistically Villa will play them off the park , have a high amount of shots therefore goals and have far higher fitness , strength and ability.

-8 goal difference in their under 23 league 7 position from 12 not near the top so not one thing to fear.

9-0 win Sweet Caroline played at full time
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: exigo on December 17, 2019, 10:27:54 AM
If we win 9-0, I'll bare my arse in the window of Harry Parkes' sports shop.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 17, 2019, 10:55:22 AM
I admire your confidence Vill I An.

I on the other hand don't trust us to win a corner at the moment.

2-1 nervy.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: spk on December 17, 2019, 11:11:43 AM
Anyone got 2 spare tickets for this please ?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: sid1964 on December 17, 2019, 11:13:35 AM
If we play a similar team that we put out against the Wolves,we should win comfortably against their Under 23 team, if we don't win then the players should hang their heads in shame

There will be and can be NO excuse for not getting through to the semi final.

If we lose then Smith and Co, will be under real pressure.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bobby Boy on December 17, 2019, 11:16:07 AM
If we play a similar team that we put out against the Wolves,we should win comfortably against their Under 23 team, if we don't win then the players should hang their heads in shame

There will be and can be NO excuse for not getting through to the semi final.

If we lose then Smith and Co, will be under real pressure.

We won't lose tonight. Now if you're talking about losing against Southampton.....
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: spk on December 17, 2019, 11:31:55 AM
would be grateful for one or two IDs if anyone can help
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: purpletrousers on December 17, 2019, 11:34:15 AM
would be grateful for one or two IDs if anyone can help
Have PMíd you.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 17, 2019, 11:42:27 AM
would be grateful for one or two IDs if anyone can help

I've an ID you can use if needed
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on December 17, 2019, 01:20:31 PM
would be grateful for one or two IDs if anyone can help

Some of those Liverpool players will need ID to prove they are over child age

(Good luck and enjoy hope you get some tickets ! Merry Xmas)
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Vill I An on December 17, 2019, 01:22:48 PM
I admire your confidence Vill I An.

I on the other hand don't trust us to win a corner at the moment.

2-1 nervy.

Actually it's rather ambitious in some ways as
Record League Cup win is 8-1 v. Exeter 2nd round '85.

Let's go between 6-8
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 17, 2019, 03:16:16 PM
Just leaving York. It better be worth it.
Do not. Fuck. This up. Villa.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 17, 2019, 06:12:57 PM
Just leaving York. It better be worth it.
Do not. Fuck. This up. Villa.
foggy down here now
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 17, 2019, 06:23:36 PM
6/1 Liverpool win looks value
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: cdbullyweefan on December 17, 2019, 06:43:29 PM
I got 6/1 on them to qualify a few days ago.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on December 17, 2019, 07:20:16 PM
Just leaving York. It better be worth it.
Do not. Fuck. This up. Villa.
foggy down here now
Waiting for a train: they keep being cancelled. ..
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Des Little on December 20, 2019, 09:00:52 AM
Anyone had their beer vouchers yet?
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: Bad English on December 20, 2019, 05:06:55 PM
Anyone had their beer vouchers yet?
Yes.Got paid today. We always get paid on the 20th in December. The rest of the year it's the 27th or thereabouts.
Title: Re: League Cup Quarter-Final - Liverpool at home
Post by: purpletrousers on December 20, 2019, 11:32:57 PM
If we win 9-0, I'll bare my arse in the window of Harry Parkes' sports shop.

5-0 worth slightly more than one buttock?