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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on October 30, 2019, 09:45:12 PM
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Job done.
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Wasn't a great performance but didn't need to be.
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Luiz and the 2CB were good.
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We looked the part. Shame about the defensive lapses but otherwise we looked better all over the pitch and closed the game out well which is encouraging as it suggests we’re learning and improving at game management.
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Fair bit of build up, non event. Neither Davis or Kodjia did much to put pressure on Wes for the weekend, especially with the injury. Luiz MOTM by a distance.
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Wolves offered nothing apart from keeping a good shape, we created most of their chances.
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7,000 short of capacity? Don't think so.
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That was an El of a result....
See what I've done there.....?
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Missed it, stuck on our glorious M6. At least we won and we rested a few for Saturday.
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Lovely stuff. Well done.
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Well done Villa.
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Player ratings tonight? Anyone at all putting pressure on getting in the team for Liverpool? Luiz, Hourihane, Trez and AEG had the most to gain pre-game you would think.
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Kodjia looked very good to me. Really up for up it and some good running.
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It ay fayre tho am it?
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Usual bullshit being spouted on WM. Mel Eves Villa first teamers playing only a bit better bla bla bla. We looked like we were in 2nd gear.
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AEG should have had a hat-trick.
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Usual bullshit being spouted on WM. Mel Eves Villa first teamers playing only a bit better bla bla bla. We looked like we were in 2nd gear.
A very bitter loser
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7,000 short of capacity? Don't think so.
A Doug Ellis crowd..
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looked like a pre season friendly. well in control
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I was out and have only looked at post game stats, but sounds like we dominated overall.
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A comfortable stroll. Bar a minute or two of panic itnwas the easiest game we've had all season.
Crewe offered more.
Poor delivery from the full backs, wingers worked hard, Hourihane anonymous, Lansbury too slow. Dougie was fouled I felt in the build up to their goal.
Passed them to death, bullied them off the ball, centre halves fine. Easy really.
No way was there only 35k on.
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We did what we needed to do. At no time did we look like losing that tie.
Striker situation now very concerning, though.
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Thought Lansbury was good
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We did what we needed to do. At no time did we look like losing that tie.
Striker situation now very concerning, though.
Yep, but hopefully we’ll get to January and snap one up then.
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Usual bullshit being spouted on WM. Mel Eves Villa first teamers playing only a bit better bla bla bla. We looked like we were in 2nd gear.
It was one of the most comfortable victories in recent history.
I think that's put to bed a few myths about gaps, levels and whatnot.
Our squad is ok, will be tested throughout the season, but we were ok. Konsa, Hause and Luiz played well. Trezeguet is non stop and always looking to create.
Taylor should be shipped out at some point, however. Though to be fair, he got forward ok. A liability at times when defending.
Wolves not as good as they think they are, and for their numbers, crap away support. An orange Tamworth.
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Usual bullshit being spouted on WM. Mel Eves Villa first teamers playing only a bit better bla bla bla. We looked like we were in 2nd gear.
It was one of the most comfortable victories in recent history.
I think that's put to bed a few myths about gaps, levels and whatnot.
Our squad is ok, will be tested throughout the season, but we were ok. Konsa, Hause and Luiz played well. Trezeguet is non stop and always looking to create.
Taylor should be shipped out at some point, however. Though to be fair, he got forward ok. A liability at times when defending.
Wolves not as good as they think they are, and for their numbers, crap away support. An orange Tamworth.
No need for that! ;D
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Did what we needed to do. The whole game seemed fairly flat for long portions, possibly due to our controlled dominance and Wolves lack of ambition, interspersed with a couple of moments of quality (and a couple of sloppy mistakes)
Thought Konsa looked like he has the potential to be an excellent player - looked very composed on the ball.
Can see why Smith likes Lansbury and has keep him around, it’s a shame he is made of glass.
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Well in control throughout except the daft goal we gave away. We've got some decent back-up options for a mid-table side. Steer, Konsa, Hause, AEH, Lansbury, Davis, Kodija are all well worth a squad place.
Come January it should definitely be a case of quality over quantity in our recruitment - a striker and a winger in, ideally a young left back too to put pressure on Targett so that Taylor can go. Other than that, it's a good squad.
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No excuse for not winning that given the team Wolves put out but we made very heavy work of it.
Still in the next round with the draw at ridiculous time of 8.45am tomorrow.
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No excuse for not winning that given the team Wolves put out but we made very heavy work of it.
Still in the next round with the draw at ridiculous time of 8.45am tomorrow.
Yeh, means I have to get up at 4.45am to listen to it live FFS
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Job done, despite nearly gifting them two equalisers! Thought Konsa looked impressive and Lansbury picked good passes, would have hoped for a bit more from the widemen. Can't believe the draw is not even on TV.
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Had the misfortune to listen to WM on the way home. Fuck me it’s a wonder i didn’t slash my wrists listening to Mel Eves drone on, stuttering, hesitating and tripping up on his words to come up with another excuse to why the Wolves lost. It was like a fuckin wake. Jesus!
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After waiting over 15 minutes to actually get in because of incompetent organisation I thought we never got out of fifth gear. We could have easily scored more goals if we cranked up the gears but in the end the bare minimum effort was all that was needed.
One to forget about and fast.
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Had the misfortune to listen to WM on the way home. Fuck me it’s a wonder i didn’t slash my wrists listening to Mel Eves drone on, stuttering, hesitating and tripping up on his words to come up with another excuse to why the Wolves lost. It was like a fuckin wake. Jesus!
He really did sound like an incoherent vagrant.
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Basically we played them off the park for 90 minutes and should have thrashed them. Sadly for Wolves we have a far better squad than they do, and their second string is utter shit.
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Just seen on twitter their XI tonight actually cost over £45m as well, it's not our fault they've bought young gambles from abroad to fill their squad.
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Konsa, Hause and Elmo all played well.
Luiz had a stroll in the park kind of game with acres of space to play in, made it look very easy.
But for me, considering the quality and standard of the opposition, trezeguet and el Ghazi were piss poor.
For Saturday, I’d drop both of them and have Elmo playing in front of Freddie .
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I wouldn't say we made heavy work of it. I reckon most of our team could play another game tomorrow night they had such an easy time of it.
Luiz was class, Konsa and Hause were very good, Elmo did ok and is a good backup, Taylor was poor (other than 1 really good cross which AEG really should've buried). Further forward we didn't quite create enough because they, effectively, had a back 5 and 2 DMs, it meant we had fuck loads of possession but we got crowded out on the edge of their box a lot. Given everything their fans say about how great they are turning up and defending their box for 90 minutes and trying to catch us on the counter doesn't scream tactical masterclass by a team that are vastly above us in quality.
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we well in control for most of the match (95%) because they were so piss poor
rarely have I seen any team offer so little
I could have played in defence and done ok and still Taylor did his best to look shit
Davis did ok in the first half
Douglas MOTM
rest of the mids and forwards - championship standard not good enough
Trez in particular not dangerous enough, no idea actually
if we had of not won that it would have been a disgrace
good job we got a complete new side to play in the league games
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There seemed to be an Exclusion Zone around Douglas Luiz. He had as much time as he wanted. He used it well though. Ran the show.
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Bit of an anti-climax - bit like a training game of our reserves against theirs, no 'derby' tempo or atmosphere, but job done and that's all that matters.
Great to get the winner just as they were giving it large for their equaliser. Lansbury should have killed them off with a free header from 5 yards out, and with only 1 in it and 6 minutes injury time (God knows why) it could have cost us. But it didn't and we're in the hat for tomorrow.
Impressed with Konsa and Hause at the back - both self assured, and good to know we've got decent cover to fall back on if needs be. And we looked much more dangerous with Keinan up top - hopefully the injury won't keep him out too long - looked like hamstring twang to me but hopefully just a twinge.
Bring on Colchester or Oxford at home - this competition could be a passport to Europe
edit Lansbury not Conor with the header
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They made 11 changes, we made 9.
This resulted in them fielding a team we'd never heard of compared to our fairly strong second string.
Thus highlighting our owners am considerably richer than theirs and we've got a much stronger squad depth.
Man Utd at home my prediction for the quarters
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Should have won more comfortably, but that'll do. Oxford or Colchester and no fuck ups please, Villa.
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Any post match news on poor Keinan?
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Decided to skip the last 15 minutes to have dinner without a worry in the world we'd come unstuck.
I hope the Wolves fans enjoyed their big day out but hopefully they'll have understood, you can't fake rivalry.
Overall, bitterly disappointed the game was so uncompetitive. And the reason; Wolves were embarrassingly, utter shite.
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I doubt we'll have to wash the kit. My biggest concern is that there's enough time between now and Saturday for my seat to be decontaminated.
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I doubt we'll have to wash the kit. My biggest concern is that there's enough time between now and Saturday for my seat to be decontaminated.
I am taking wet wipes with me on Saturday to clean mine and dettol spray. I could smell them from Trinity Road upper.
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I doubt we'll have to wash the kit. My biggest concern is that there's enough time between now and Saturday for my seat to be decontaminated.
I am taking wet wipes with me on Saturday to clean mine and dettol spray. I could smell them from Trinity Road upper.
Good shout pal.
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Fair bit of build up, non event. Neither Davis or Kodjia did much to put pressure on Wes for the weekend, especially with the injury. Luiz MOTM by a distance.
Ahmed ElMohammedy in my opinion was MotM.
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Any post match news on poor Keinan?
Hamstring according to Dean.
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Basically we played them off the park for 90 minutes and should have thrashed them. Sadly for Wolves we have a far better squad than they do, and their second string is utter shit.
Succinctly put, and about the only things we can really deduce from this evening.
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Player ratings tonight? Anyone at all putting pressure on getting in the team for Liverpool? Luiz, Hourihane, Trez and AEG had the most to gain pre-game you would think.
No as opposition was very weak. CB's did ok but never had any pressure.
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Konsa was very poor for their goal, should never have let the forward turn and shoot with his right foot in that position. Arguably two fouls (on Elmo and surely offside) elsewhere by Wolves in the same play, mind.
Not sure how much benefit some of our fringe players could have got from such uncompetitive fare. United at Villa Park next
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I thought it was quite amusing when they took off number 77 and replaced him with 56.
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Well, I for one thoroughly enjoyed their repertoire this evening. I loved the eighties, me. Took me right back.
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Dean Smith fucked up with the substitution with John McGinn picking up an unnecessary yellow card. There was no need for him to come on when he did.
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Don't know why some moan on El Ghazi especially as he was noticeably tracking back and saved Taylor aswell as coverage for Elmo also slipped the ball in well for a goal.
Biggest problem with Trez is he doesn't impose himself and has lacked finishing off chances as he again could have scored.
Also could do with getting to grips with physicallity of the game.
Agree both could be more apparent in attacking sense however the whoscored.com ratings system have El Ghazi highest rated.
Douglas , I found being the man most in possession of ball perhaps could've made a lot more telling contribution and seemed to stroll although pretty decent on the ball, could have been far more effective as the ratings systems suggests.
El Ghazi 7.85
Lansbury 7.83
Elmo 7.82
Trézéguet 7
Hause 6.99
Davis 6.92
Hourihane 6.85
Konsa 6.61
Taylor 6.39
Steer 6.31
Douglas 5.97
Subs:
Kodjia 6.23
McGinn 6.22
And as for that Fcukin Wesley.
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Just got back from the game, El Ghazi was not our best player, but for his name appearing on the scoresheet I wouldn't have known he was playing.
Douglas the worst.......not a chance.
Hause impressed me, but very disappointed in Hourihane, after starting a few games recently and looking damn good, he had a real chance to impress tonight and be back in the team, but this was the 'couldn't give a shit' Hourihane from the Bruceball days.
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Dean Smith fucked up with the substitution with John McGinn picking up an unnecessary yellow card. There was no need for him to come on when he did.
Maybe, but there was also absolutely no need for McGinn to make that challenge in that manner. Reminiscent of some of his dafter stuff throughout the first half of last season.
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Cão de Água, caralho!
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Konsa and Hause, cool as you like.
Lansbury, enjoyed watching him tonight especially as he's game time limited, thought he did well.
Luiz, picked out several passes and indeed did perform, but can be very sloppy at times and prone to an error or three putting us right in the shit.
Trez, end product really needs to start coming together over the coming weeks now, but feel he worked hard.
Neil Taylor - time to go, sunshine. Offers nothing. Ever. Bye. Deano has two players for everyone position.... sorry, no, he only has one left back at the moment and it's not Taylor.
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Dean Smith fucked up with the substitution with John McGinn picking up an unnecessary yellow card. There was no need for him to come on when he did.
Maybe, but there was also absolutely no need for McGinn to make that challenge in that manner. Reminiscent of some of his dafter stuff throughout the first half of last season.
Yeah, I’m not sure you can blame Dean Smith for McGinn making that unnecessary challenge.
Bookings are specific to each competition now though I believe, so not a huge issue.
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Just got back from the game, El Ghazi was not our best player, but for his name appearing on the scoresheet I wouldn't have known he was playing.
Douglas the worst.......not a chance.
Hause impressed me, but very disappointed in Hourihane, after starting a few games recently and looking damn good, he had a real chance to impress tonight and be back in the team, but this was the 'couldn't give a shit' Hourihane from the Bruceball days.
Well he could have had even more attacking threat and impose himself but give Anwar credit.
He had a talking to from Smith other week and was noticeable in his tracking .
Particular the incident where Netto (before he was just subbed) out pace and out muscles Taylor all the way to penalty area Taylor doing his best to fuck up and El Ghazi has sprinted back also and got his toe on the end of it making a perfect challenge and out for a corner after Netto went past Taylor by this time in the penalty area.
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Bit of a pre-season friendly about it. Wolves were not too bothered, we did enough to get through. You can see why Lansbury is not starting, very limited & that header towards the end was awful. Davies did well, felt sorry for him hobbling off. Luiz is quality but is prone to the odd error. Trez blew hot and cold. Looking fwd to see who next, Colchester please at home.
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We beat the champions of the world/universe. They offered literally nothing. We have the next game to look forward to.
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Just got back from the game, El Ghazi was not our best player, but for his name appearing on the scoresheet I wouldn't have known he was playing.
Douglas the worst.......not a chance.
Hause impressed me, but very disappointed in Hourihane, after starting a few games recently and looking damn good, he had a real chance to impress tonight and be back in the team, but this was the 'couldn't give a shit' Hourihane from the Bruceball days.
Well he could have had even more attacking threat and impose himself but give Anwar credit.
He had a talking to from Smith other week and was noticeable in his tracking .
Particular the incident where Netto (before he was just subbed) out pace and out muscles Taylor all the way to penalty area Taylor doing his best to fuck up and El Ghazi has sprinted back also and got his toe on the end of it making a perfect challenge and out for a corner after Netto went past Taylor by this time in the penalty area.
Maybe Deano should switch El Ghazi to be a left back. Love your thinking, Vill I An.
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See ya Real Wolverona!
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I wouldn't say we made heavy work of it. I reckon most of our team could play another game tomorrow night they had such an easy time of it.
Luiz was class, Konsa and Hause were very good, Elmo did ok and is a good backup, Taylor was poor (other than 1 really good cross which AEG really should've buried). Further forward we didn't quite create enough because they, effectively, had a back 5 and 2 DMs, it meant we had fuck loads of possession but we got crowded out on the edge of their box a lot. Given everything their fans say about how great they are turning up and defending their box for 90 minutes and trying to catch us on the counter doesn't scream tactical masterclass by a team that are vastly above us in quality.
Well we were 1 nil up and weren't really creating much and then of course 1-1 happened. Quickly back in front but even then Steer did well one on one.
Surprised at everyone saying this was our easiest win of the season, we had just 5 shots on target. Norwich was much more convincing.
Not our fault Wolves put a virtual youth team of course (don't think any of that 11 will play us in 11 days time) but thought we were much more comfortable down at Brighton.
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Bit of a strange game really that definitely had the feel of a reserve fixture at times. Thought Wolves hardly threatened and on the couple of occasions they did, it was through chances WC gifted them (Douglas losing possession and then Taylor's under hit back pass).
Thought Hause and Konsa were solid, but the rest were a bit too sloppy at times. With Douglas being the prime example. He is clearly a talented player and to be fair to him he didn't have much of a pre-season, but he looks far too casual at times.
On another note, did they not count the away fans in the attendance figure tonight, as I'm not sure how you would have fitted another six to seven thousand in there tonight.
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Dean Smith fucked up with the substitution with John McGinn picking up an unnecessary yellow card. There was no need for him to come on when he did.
Maybe, but there was also absolutely no need for McGinn to make that challenge in that manner. Reminiscent of some of his dafter stuff throughout the first half of last season.
Did a quick check and McGinn is only on 2 yellows so no bother, should stay clear of suspension given they wipe 5 yellows in I think mid December.
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Just got back, fuck the fucking M6 and the fucking A14. 2 hours to do 45 miles at 10 o'clock at night, absolute madness.
Anyway, the game obviously had a distinctly second string feel to it, but was still enjoyable despite that. The good thing was that it showed we have good depth to the squad. Hause and Konsa both did very well and I'd have no worries about either of them slotting in for Mings or Engels should the need arise.
Taylor really is hopeless though, all he ever does is receive the ball, look up, then pass it to whoever is stood furthest away behind him. I'd rather we ditched him altogether and used Hause as back up left back. Luiz was a weird one, at times looked a class apart with his passing and ability on the ball, but at others looked a liability with Wolves going straight through him on more than one occasion. Lansbury looked decent, and has an eye for a pass, but lacks Jack's ability to run with the ball and take people on.
Elmo looked OK, Hourihane was anonymous, and El Ghazi and Trezeguet were their usual selves. Davis looked his usual busy, but ultimately non-threatening self. He isn't the answer and looks like he might be out for a while now anyway.
Should have buried them by far more, but I don't think they'll be too upset about going out.
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pleased with the win
but couldn't help wondering that if we played that same team on Saturday and Liverpool went for it we Could be looking at another Liecester Southampton reverse against us
so I'm not all that convinced that we really have the cover and strength in depth people think we have
but maybe I'm being overly negative
someone on the earlier thread said they loved the League cup and had seen all the finals from the early 60's
I don't go back quite that far but I'm also in the camp of love for this competition and was really looking forward to tonight
But the whole thing felt was a bit flat from both the players and crowd considering it was a local ish Derby
we are through to the quarters, if we get a favourable draw I hope we don't bollocks it all up with a none performance
even Oxford or Colchester will offer far more than Woves did tonight
and the others will kill us if we play that team
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Pretty much every side in Europe would get battered if they fielded their second 11 against Liverpool's first.
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I get the feeling the the Wolves manager took the easy option and the excuse tonight by fielding the team he did. He knew that he would have had to throw in a fair few first teamers to get a result against our lot tonight and then it still would have been up in the air. Instead he excused himself and the club by fielding reserves. He and Wolves weren't up for the fight tonight and rightfully got dispatched with minimum fuss by our reserve team. Whatever excuse is ready made for them, it was our reserve team that beat them without breaking a sweat. They might aswell hadn't bothered and stayed in Wolverhampton drinking Bovril for the night to keep warm.
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Player ratings tonight? Anyone at all putting pressure on getting in the team for Liverpool? Luiz, Hourihane, Trez and AEG had the most to gain pre-game you would think.
No as opposition was very weak. CB's did ok but never had any pressure.
It was the most pleasant early morning Villa experience in many a long year.
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I get the feeling the the Wolves manager took the easy option and the excuse tonight by fielding the team he did. He knew that he would have had to throw in a fair few first teamers to get a result against our lot tonight and then it still would have been up in the air. Instead he excused himself and the club by fielding reserves. He and Wolves weren't up for the fight tonight and rightfully got dispatched with minimum fuss by our reserve team. Whatever excuse is ready made for them, it was our reserve team that beat them without breaking a sweat. They might aswell hadn't bothered and stayed in Wolverhampton drinking Bovril for the night to keep warm.
They won't like losing to a team full of (their words) championship level players. That's what makes it funnier.
They'll be banging on about beating us in the league in a few weeks, etc. Good luck to them. They're going to fucking well need it in their quest to be bigger than West Brom.
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Usual bullshit being spouted on WM. Mel Eves Villa first teamers playing only a bit better bla bla bla. We looked like we were in 2nd gear.
It was one of the most comfortable victories in recent history.
I think that's put to bed a few myths about gaps, levels and whatnot.
Our squad is ok, will be tested throughout the season, but we were ok. Konsa, Hause and Luiz played well. Trezeguet is non stop and always looking to create.
Taylor should be shipped out at some point, however. Though to be fair, he got forward ok. A liability at times when defending.
Wolves not as good as they think they are, and for their numbers, crap away support. An orange Tamworth.
No need for that! ;D
Haha. Apologies!
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If i was a wolves fan would be well pissed off with the meek attempt to get through the round. As for the Villa made heavy weather of beating a team of kids plus an old head in goal. Onwards and upwards.
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Player ratings tonight? Anyone at all putting pressure on getting in the team for Liverpool? Luiz, Hourihane, Trez and AEG had the most to gain pre-game you would think.
No as opposition was very weak. CB's did ok but never had any pressure.
Don't know why some moan on El Ghazi especially as he was noticeably tracking back and saved Taylor aswell as coverage for Elmo also slipped the ball in well for a goal.
Biggest problem with Trez is he doesn't impose himself and has lacked finishing off chances as he again could have scored.
Also could do with getting to grips with physicallity of the game.
Agree both could be more apparent in attacking sense however the whoscored.com ratings system have El Ghazi highest rated.
Douglas , I found being the man most in possession of ball perhaps could've made a lot more telling contribution and seemed to stroll although pretty decent on the ball, could have been far more effective as the ratings systems suggests.
El Ghazi 7.85
Lansbury 7.83
Elmo 7.82
Trézéguet 7
Hause 6.99
Davis 6.92
Hourihane 6.85
Konsa 6.61
Taylor 6.39
Steer 6.31
Douglas 5.97
Subs:
Kodjia 6.23
McGinn 6.22
I don’t even want to think how much you’ve analysed this game to give players marks out of 10 to 2 decimal places.
But whatever system it’s clearly horrific if you have Douglas as the worst.
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No, Wolves didn't seem that bothered did they? We should have made it more convincing than it was but it was fairly comfortable. Tresequet looked like he's slowly starting to get to grips with things and I don't think is first goal his too far away. Oh and the ref's added 6 minutes was laughable.
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35k my arse. Why do they underestimate like that?
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Player ratings tonight? Anyone at all putting pressure on getting in the team for Liverpool? Luiz, Hourihane, Trez and AEG had the most to gain pre-game you would think.
No as opposition was very weak. CB's did ok but never had any pressure.
Don't know why some moan on El Ghazi especially as he was noticeably tracking back and saved Taylor aswell as coverage for Elmo also slipped the ball in well for a goal.
Biggest problem with Trez is he doesn't impose himself and has lacked finishing off chances as he again could have scored.
Also could do with getting to grips with physicallity of the game.
Agree both could be more apparent in attacking sense however the whoscored.com ratings system have El Ghazi highest rated.
Douglas , I found being the man most in possession of ball perhaps could've made a lot more telling contribution and seemed to stroll although pretty decent on the ball, could have been far more effective as the ratings systems suggests.
El Ghazi 7.85
Lansbury 7.83
Elmo 7.82
Trézéguet 7
Hause 6.99
Davis 6.92
Hourihane 6.85
Konsa 6.61
Taylor 6.39
Steer 6.31
Douglas 5.97
Subs:
Kodjia 6.23
McGinn 6.22
I don’t even want to think how much you’ve analysed this game to give players marks out of 10 to 2 decimal places.
But whatever system it’s clearly horrific if you have Douglas as the worst.
What a rubbish ratings system. Is that taken from a website, Footy?
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I believe he has taken the numbers from whoscored.com
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In a very rare occurrence for me, I shouted out when the 4th Official put up the 6 minutes. Specifically........ "Show us your workings"
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Those stats are mental, as they were for the Brighton game.
They seem to be incredibly skewed by goals and assists which would explain the low points for defenders and excessive scores for payers who had relatively poor games but scored (Targett).
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35k my arse. Why do they underestimate like that?
Looked plenty of empty seats in the Doug Ellis Stand to me.
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Comfortable evening, won it without getting out of 2nd gear. I was surprised how young, weak and inexperienced their second string was.
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Dean Smith fucked up with the substitution with John McGinn picking up an unnecessary yellow card. There was no need for him to come on when he did.
Maybe, but there was also absolutely no need for McGinn to make that challenge in that manner. Reminiscent of some of his dafter stuff throughout the first half of last season.
That tackle was the highlight of the night for me.
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Yep it was ace. Met by a collective wince then massive cheers.
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In a very rare occurrence for me, I shouted out when the 4th Official put up the 6 minutes. Specifically........ "Show us your workings"
Like it.
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Can't see why so much negative comment on here.
We put out a reserve team but still had 6 internationals starting and 2 came off the bench. Apart from 2 errors they never created a chance.
Their fans moaning their team was full go kids - but they have very few reserves to call on. If they get a few injuries some these kids will have to fill in. Their squad is not as deep as ours. That is what is upsetting them the most.
That team we had last night would be very good in the championship. As a team they would not survive in the premiership but they are good enough individually to fill in when our first teamers get injured. It is a strong back up squad, which Wolves don't have.
I'm sure last night's game will have sown a few seeds of doubt in their minds. They can see what Dean Smith is building and know that in the long run we will make progress while their bubble bursts.
Onwards and Upwards.
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When are we looking at having the official pre match thread for Liverpool will I be sometime this afternoon?
It's the biggest home match since being back in premier league against unbeaten league leaders
I also think it's another great test and it's what being in premier league is all about !
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Fair bit of build up, non event. Neither Davis or Kodjia did much to put pressure on Wes for the weekend, especially with the injury. Luiz MOTM by a distance.
Ahmed ElMohammedy in my opinion was MotM.
I had him as my MotM as well, Ruddy ran him close as he helped Villa during the tie.
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Anyway, the game obviously had a distinctly second string feel to it, but was still enjoyable despite that. The good thing was that it showed we have good depth to the squad. Hause and Konsa both did very well and I'd have no worries about either of them slotting in for Mings or Engels should the need arise.
Taylor really is hopeless though, all he ever does is receive the ball, look up, then pass it to whoever is stood furthest away behind him. I'd rather we ditched him altogether and used Hause as back up left back. Luiz was a weird one, at times looked a class apart with his passing and ability on the ball, but at others looked a liability with Wolves going straight through him on more than one occasion. Lansbury looked decent, and has an eye for a pass, but lacks Jack's ability to run with the ball and take people on.
Elmo looked OK, Hourihane was anonymous, and El Ghazi and Trezeguet were their usual selves. Davis looked his usual busy, but ultimately non-threatening self. He isn't the answer and looks like he might be out for a while now anyway.
Should have buried them by far more, but I don't think they'll be too upset about going out.
Spot on other than I would add that I am really not seeing anything in Trezeguet to excite or inspire me. Too many times runs into blind alleys and decision making is very poor.
El Ghazi flatters to deceive at times but does have some goals and assists to his name this year - Trez has provided neither for around the same amount of game time.
I will not write him off but just not feeling he will come good at the moment.
Davis has some decent attributes but I bet if you looked at the "hot spot" gadget the analysts sometimes use then I would imagine single figures would be the amount of touches inside the box at best.
Lansbury - assists for both goal, the 1st a class bit of vision and the 2nd something obviously worked out on the training pitch.
Other than that all our dead ball deliveries were woeful again.
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Dean Smith fucked up with the substitution with John McGinn picking up an unnecessary yellow card. There was no need for him to come on when he did.
Maybe, but there was also absolutely no need for McGinn to make that challenge in that manner. Reminiscent of some of his dafter stuff throughout the first half of last season.
That tackle was the highlight of the night for me.
Lee I would have liked you to have worded that as: His tackle was the highlight of the night for me. 😊
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Risso and Hooky have summed up the game I watched last night.
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We exerted ourselves as much as we needed to and no more. I thought Taylor was ok apart form almost gifting them a goal, which is no worse than Luiz did. Still struggling to see what Trezeguet offers, still zero goals and zero assists - although to be fair it was his cross that Lansbury should have buried. He was fortunate not to be yellow carded for a rather pathetic dive as well.
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Trez has no bottle, no appetite for physical contact, thought that wa Taylor’s best game in ages. Still concerned. How difficult we made last night for ourselves
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Pretty standard win for the team without needing to get out if 2nd gear. Wolves came to park the bus in a Mourinhoesque masterclass and utterly failed. That said we weren't perfect but did enough.
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I am not Lansbury's biggest fan but I though he played well last night along with his other appearances in the the cup this season. I had a music teacher at school called Lansbury and he was an absolute mentallist.
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Trez needs some bloody power in his feet.. such a weak shot on him
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Aaand the first i hear Jack say is "Louise", as mentioned on the thread last night.
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Dominant from us against a poor Wolves second/third string. Grateful we won.
I was disappointed in Davis, but I admit he had no service all game really. We had a lot of possession but didn't really create too much. But that's to be expected when they have everyone behind the ball. Taylor teases by getting forwards but inevitably his passes seem unconvincing and not quite forward-thinking enough. For me it was frustrating to watch - against a team he could have potentially done some damage against.
Luiz, Konza and Hause were excellent and it was a joy to watch them pass it around and build for another move forwards. Great one-on-one save from Steer at one point when it was 2-1 too.
We won, can't ask for more than that really! Up the Villa!
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Dominant from us against a poor Wolves second/third string. Grateful we won.
I was disappointed in Davis, but I admit he had no service all game really. We had a lot of possession but didn't really create too much. But that's to be expected when they have everyone behind the ball. Taylor teases by getting forwards but inevitably his passes seem unconvincing and not quite forward-thinking enough. For me it was frustrating to watch - against a team he could have potentially done some damage against.
Luiz, Konza and Hause were excellent and it was a joy to watch them pass it around and build for another move forwards. Great one-on-one save from Steer at one point when it was 2-1 too.
We won, can't ask for more than that really! Up the Villa!
I agree with this, Villa cubs beat Wolves pups without getting out of second gear
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Nice to win a game so easily and being able to step up a gear when they equalised.