Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on October 14, 2019, 08:05:46 PM
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And here we have yet another club who’ve spent most of their history in the lower divisions, then give them a few years in the Premier League and they start getting ideas above their station. Talking of which, if we treated away supporters the same way we get treated here, Brighton’s pitiful away following would be stuck on Witton station for two hours then crammed into one carriage of a train that went back to New Street via Wolverhampton. They’ve got a manager who did well in Sweden and looks like he should have been in The Office after first making his name in Grange Hill. They also have a collection of extremely obscure players.
What comes up must come down and Brighton have been up for far too long so it’s about time they remembered where they should be and accept defeat gracefully. Winning this one will help them get used to it.
Things newfooty fans don’t know – Jimmy Melia’s white shoes. And don’t pretend you don’t know about them either.
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Aston Villa vs Brighton and Hove Albion.
3-1. Off you trot FTF!
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I don't know about Jimmy Melia's white shoes. I know that they're the only league team with four words in their name. Possibly. I haven't bothered to check this fact.
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D 1-1.
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Aston Villa vs Brighton and Hove Albion.
3-1. Off you trot FTF!
We’ll definitely beat them. No idea. Really.
Nurses
No probs, BE.
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I don't know about Jimmy Melia's white shoes. I know that they're the only league team with four words in their name. Possibly. I haven't bothered to check this fact.
Manchester F*ck*ng United B*st*rds.
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Brighton created one of the best names for a fanzine ever.
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I don't know about Jimmy Melia's white shoes. I know that they're the only league team with four words in their name. Possibly. I haven't bothered to check this fact.
Manchester F*ck*ng United B*st*rds.
Is that an East is East reference? Either way I like it.
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I can see winning this we need to carry on from Norwich I reckon a 2-1 Villa win.
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Win this and it gives us a bit of grace against M city and 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'
we've come unstuck this season already against Bournmouth at home and there's no easy games in this league but we really do need to win these home games against prospective bottom half of the league teams to stay up
Villa 3-0
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I don't know about Jimmy Melia's white shoes. I know that they're the only league team with four words in their name. Possibly. I haven't bothered to check this fact.
Manchester F*ck*ng United B*st*rds.
That's the abridged version.
Their full name is Manchester F*ck*ing United B*st*rd F*ck*ing c***s.
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Dave does your apparent disdain for Brighton have anything to do with blue and white stripes and the word Albion in their name?
Agree this is the kind of game we need to win and I think we will, 2-0. Wesley and Grealish.
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On paper, you have to say that this should be Villa’s game all day long.
Aside from at Newcastle where Bruce gave them 71% possession, they’ve averaged only 6.3 shots at goal per away game this season. They’ve only scored 3 goals away, all against Watford, and even with the 71% possession at Newcastle they couldn’t score in 16 attempts on goal. Overall, including home games, they’re averaging 0.75 goals per game this season in the league.
We’ve so far averaged 1.25 goals per home game, have a goals versus expected goals rate of 103.5% at home, and have averaged 13.5 attempted per home game.
I can’t see Brighton scoring more than one goal, but they do defend well away from home. We have to take our chances and get a couple of goals.
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Dave does your apparent disdain for Brighton have anything to do with blue and white stripes and the word Albion in their name?
Agree this is the kind of game we need to win and I think we will, 2-0. Wesley and Grealish.
I have disdain for every other club.
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I have a soft spot for Brighton because of this wonderful man.
(https://i.ibb.co/7zNtv8B/819-A6-EF5-76-AE-4-C73-B49-D-175-F46-E8-E9-D2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7zNtv8B)
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Sorry to have to ask, but who is it?
I can't go to this game due to having my foot injected making me unable to push Mrs Exile's wheelchair.
2-0 Villa win
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Isn't this only Brighton's second season in the PL? Desire for their demise seems unduly harsh.
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2-0 Villa, please
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Brighton created one of the best names for a fanzine ever.
Commemorating an event that helped the Villa
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3-0 win
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Brighton created one of the best names for a fanzine ever.
Commemorating an event that helped the Villa
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Gulls Eye
And Smith Must Score
On the Up
Seaside Saga
The Tommy Cook Report
Scars & Stripes
Build a Bonfire
Gulls Eye 2000
Gulls Eye 2
Keep the Faith
Brighton Rockz
Come over the Dyke
The Seagull Love Review - Scans Coming Soon
Short-lived fanzines:
There is a Rat in the Camp
Seasons of Missed Opportunities
Pretty in Pink
One F in Falmer
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I think the fanzine is 'And Smith Must Score' which was a line of Peter Jones' radio commentary from the first game of the 1983 FA Cup Final when Brighton at striker Gordon Smith was one on one with ManUre keeper Gary Bailey in stoppage time. Bailey basically sat on Smith's shot to keep it out and that was more-or-less the last action of the game. Brighton lost the replay 4-0 which meant ManUre qualified for the Cup Winners Cup and allowed Villa a place in the UEFA Cup.
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One way event like Norwich- yes I am that confident
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Thanks!
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One way event like Norwich- yes I am that confident
On the Brighton forum they’re hoping we will be over-confident after the league cup tie!
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Surrounded by the buggers down here, you see so many Brighton shirts now compared to 2-3 years ago. You even see coaches and mini buses picking up fans from particular stops in the town I live in. Never saw that happening 2-3 years ago.
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One way event like Norwich- yes I am that confident
On the Brighton forum they’re hoping we will be over-confident after the league cup tie!
It was our second string against theirs (with some of their thirds thrown in), our seniors will still pwn their first choices. Maupay to be sent off for grappling Mings.
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Dave does your apparent disdain for Brighton have anything to do with blue and white stripes and the word Albion in their name?
Agree this is the kind of game we need to win and I think we will, 2-0. Wesley and Grealish.
I have disdain for every other club.
It’s quite funny them being in stripes and being called Albion, makes our near neighbours not even unique in name . A bit like when you see BCFC I always assume Bristol City Football Club.
We know they’re irrelevant for most other football related things.
3-0 Villa. Another attack minded display with a solid defence.
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Surrounded by the buggers down here, you see so many Brighton shirts now compared to 2-3 years ago. You even see coaches and mini buses picking up fans from particular stops in the town I live in. Never saw that happening 2-3 years ago.
It's hardly a shock that a club gets bigger crowds in the top flight, ours are up 9k compared to 3 years ago.
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Brighton created one of the best names for a fanzine ever.
Commemorating an event that helped the Villa
??
Gulls Eye
And Smith Must Score
On the Up
Seaside Saga
The Tommy Cook Report
Scars & Stripes
Build a Bonfire
Gulls Eye 2000
Gulls Eye 2
Keep the Faith
Brighton Rockz
Come over the Dyke
The Seagull Love Review - Scans Coming Soon
Short-lived fanzines:
There is a Rat in the Camp
Seasons of Missed Opportunities
Pretty in Pink
One F in Falmer
I was talking about 'Smith must Score'. If he had, and Man Utd had lost that final, we wouldn't have qualified for the UEFA Cup.
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Another great Fanzine name is Worse than East Fife.
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Always enjoyed those little match previews from DW in the fanzine.
Nothing against Brighton personally, always like to see clubs rise through the leagues to give others hope. Dick Knight played a huge part in their recent history, wonder if he's forgiven us yet for signing Gareth Barry?
Anyway will go for a 2-1 win. Similar to Burnley game but we'll hang onto the lead this time.
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Yeah, life's too short to be hating Brighton.
It's already pretty much a full-time job finding the time to hate Blose, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal, Millwall, Luton, Leeds, Liverpool, Man United, "Rangers", Queen's Park, Real Madrid, Lazio, Zenit St Petersburg and Beitar Jerusalem.
And that's only the teams I really hate, not the ones I dislike quite a lot.
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I am always worried after a great win and an extended break the optimism increases so much that an impending loss is all I think about
This time I think the Villa will use Norwich as a spring board and play with a confidence we always knew this team had
2-0
Grealish
Wesley
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1-1
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I have a soft spot for Brighton because of this wonderful man.
(https://i.ibb.co/7zNtv8B/819-A6-EF5-76-AE-4-C73-B49-D-175-F46-E8-E9-D2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7zNtv8B)
Sorry to have to ask, but who is it please?
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3-1 Villa
Big Wes, Conor, Jack
Connolly for them who looks really good and will be a constant threat.
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Don't forget, you're starting the Match thread, TV.
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Looking forward to this one, first game at VP for me this season, just a shame I have to sit next to that mardy arse DB of this parish.
A proper thumping would do wonders, I'm going 4-1 Villa obviously.
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I have a soft spot for Brighton because of this wonderful man.
(https://i.ibb.co/7zNtv8B/819-A6-EF5-76-AE-4-C73-B49-D-175-F46-E8-E9-D2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7zNtv8B)
Sorry to have to ask, but who is it please?
Atilla the Stockbroker, punk poet.
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My father in law hates them with a passion . Palace supporter so not sure of the history.
Villa 2 Brighton 0
Mings
SJM
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I don't know about Jimmy Melia's white shoes. I know that they're the only league team with four words in their name. Possibly. I haven't bothered to check this fact.
Aston Villa Football Club
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Jota definitely out. He's had surgery on a hernia he's had for a year.
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I don't know about Jimmy Melia's white shoes. I know that they're the only league team with four words in their name. Possibly. I haven't bothered to check this fact.
Queen of the South?
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If we want to get anywhere in this division, this is the sort of game..................
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I don't know about Jimmy Melia's white shoes. I know that they're the only league team with four words in their name. Possibly. I haven't bothered to check this fact.
Queen of the South?
Bugger. I'm revising my criteria to English League!
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Jota definitely out. He's had surgery on a hernia he's had for a year.
Any indication how long he's out for?
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Yeah, life's too short to be hating Brighton.
It's already pretty much a full-time job finding the time to hate Blose, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal, Millwall, Luton, Leeds, Liverpool, Man United, "Rangers", Queen's Park, Real Madrid, Lazio, Zenit St Petersburg and Beitar Jerusalem.
And that's only the teams I really hate, not the ones I dislike quite a lot.
I did chuckle knowing your posts on here when I was reading a season preview for Scotland and one of the league one clubs fans put Clyde as their most disliked club due to signing David Goodwillie and also having some other player in their squad who had a brush with the law....
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Everybody hates Clyde! To be honest I wasn't keen on us signing Goodwillie. I suppose everybody deserves a second chance but it still doesn't sit right. On the other hand we could be in the Lowland League rather than League One if not for his goals. I didn't want Villa to sign Terry either, nobody every listens to my views, it's like Brexit all over again!
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Looking forward to this game, we are a team that should be full of confidence at the moment following the stuffing of the canaries and the likes of wee John and Tyrone having exceptional international performances.
After beating Spurs 3-0, they will be full of confidence too so I hope we get on the front foot from the off and dominate them.
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Jota definitely out. He's had surgery on a hernia he's had for a year.
The rags health insurance policy wouldn't cover it.
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Jota definitely out. He's had surgery on a hernia he's had for a year.
Any indication how long he's out for?
Smith said he would be out for a couple of weeks in his pre match press conference.
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Ta.
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Jota definitely out. He's had surgery on a hernia he's had for a year.
Any indication how long he's out for?
Smith said he would be out for a couple of weeks in his pre match press conference.
I had a hernia op a few years ago bloody painful
when convalescing i got cream cakes in bed but no sex
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Everybody hates Clyde! To be honest I wasn't keen on us signing Goodwillie. I suppose everybody deserves a second chance but it still doesn't sit right. On the other hand we could be in the Lowland League rather than League One if not for his goals. I didn't want Villa to sign Terry either, nobody every listens to my views, it's like Brexit all over again!
Despite the Goodwille factor, your maniacal support of Clyde is swaying me from Cowdenbeath. On the other hand I may be just a glory hunter.
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Jota definitely out. He's had surgery on a hernia he's had for a year.
Any indication how long he's out for?
Smith said he would be out for a couple of weeks in his pre match press conference.
I had a hernia op a few years ago bloody painful
when convalescing i got cream cakes in bed but no sex
No sex? NHS definately going down hill mate.
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I see a 3-0 Villa win here
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I see a 3-0 Villa win here
Against a team that has just beaten Spurs 3-0?
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I see a 3-0 Villa win here
Against a team that has just beaten Spurs 3-0?
You do have to take that into consideration. 6-0 Villa.
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I see a 3-0 Villa win here
Against a team that has just beaten Spurs 3-0?
Alan, Norwich beat Man City 3-2...
UTV
The Doc
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We need to follow up the Norwich result with a win though, badly. We dropped points in my mind against Bournemouth and Burnley so can't afford to do it again.
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I'm going for 2-1 us. If we press them high I think we'll win. The North East Villa contingent (2 of us) are coming to this one.
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From some Brighton forum.
Just seen the interview with Dean Smith on their website. Astonishingly (but not surprisingly given what a bunch of arrogant ***** they are) there's barely a mention of us and they focus almost entirely on themselves and the wonderful Mings.
Astonishingly, arrogantly, our manager talks about us.
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From some Brighton forum.
Just seen the interview with Dean Smith on their website. Astonishingly (but not surprisingly given what a bunch of arrogant ***** they are) there's barely a mention of us and they focus almost entirely on themselves and the wonderful Mings.
Astonishingly, arrogantly, our manager talks about us.
What a radish.
Such a bunch of *****s we are, always focusing on our own club. Imagine.
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Brighton created one of the best names for a fanzine ever.
I miss proper paper fanzines and the pages in the back of When Saturday Comes that listed them. And the annual box of fanzines that Dave Wangerin would send to me which he received in exchange for the free copies he sent to other fanzine writers.
Ahhh memories.....
Come on you Villa boys! FTF!
3-1
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Brighton created one of the best names for a fanzine ever.
I miss proper paper fanzines and the pages in the back of When Saturday Comes that listed them. And the annual box of fanzines that Dave Wangerin would send to me which he received in exchange for the free copies he sent to other fanzine writers.
Ahhh memories.....
Come on you Villa boys! FTF!
3-1
Have a look above for the next-best thing.
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From some Brighton forum.
Just seen the interview with Dean Smith on their website. Astonishingly (but not surprisingly given what a bunch of arrogant ***** they are) there's barely a mention of us and they focus almost entirely on themselves and the wonderful Mings.
Astonishingly, arrogantly, our manager talks about us.
Also, I remember him discussing at length O'Connelly?
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From some Brighton forum.
Just seen the interview with Dean Smith on their website. Astonishingly (but not surprisingly given what a bunch of arrogant ***** they are) there's barely a mention of us and they focus almost entirely on themselves and the wonderful Mings.
Astonishingly, arrogantly, our manager talks about us.
What a radish.
Such a bunch of *****s we are, always focusing on our own club. Imagine.
Absolutely no idea what they're on about. The press asked him about Maupay, Connolly and Brighton as a team, which he answered fully, praising them for their win over Spurs.
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I assume the Brighton manager only talks about us and never mentions his own team in his pre-match interview.
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a clean sheet please Villa...we need to win this one to compliment the drubbing of Norwich
UTV
The Doc
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We should have enough to beat these at home. Maupay is the danger man for them. I think they have quite a high average age in their team and may tire later on.
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3 points please villa that's all I ask.
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From some Brighton forum.
Just seen the interview with Dean Smith on their website. Astonishingly (but not surprisingly given what a bunch of arrogant ***** they are) there's barely a mention of us and they focus almost entirely on themselves and the wonderful Mings.
Astonishingly, arrogantly, our manager talks about us.
Firstly, Mings is class, as shown in the England game, almost single handedly organising the defence and defensive midfield areas at every turn, we have a serious defender in Mings and England have a future Captain in the making, going for a 2-0 Villa win on this one, must keep the points coming in.
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After Monday's events, I expect Tyrone will have a particularly massive cheer when the team is announced.
2-0 Villa will do nicely. Keeping us further away from trouble!
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An anticlimactic 1-1.
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Come on Villa boys!! Back to back wins would be great! Use the confidence gained from thrashing norwich to win another 3 points. UTV!
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3 points please Villa. Clean sheet as a bonus.
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Can't see manny if any changes from the Norwich game unless there are some injuries.
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I cant see him changing a team that scored five last time out. I think he'll keep a winger on the bench to try and change it if need be. I'll go for a 2-2 draw. Hourihane and Big Wes with ours.
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5-2 Villa
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My elder son's Godfather is a self-described "Hove Nancy" (he's so straight he's comfortable with this apparently 🤐) and he reckons they're on the verge of playing a 3-5-2, the premise being that crowding the midfield will be their only chance of stifling our creativity.
I'd humbly suggest that they could play a midfield 8 and still wouldn't be able to dispossess SJMcG's arse.
Us Some
Them None
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Will be tough for big Wes today, up against Dunk and Duffy, who form a good centre back partnership. Going 2-1 Villa, Tyrone to get the winner.
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My elder son's Godfather is a self-described "Hove Nancy" (he's so straight he's comfortable with this apparently 🤐) and he reckons they're on the verge of playing a 3-5-2, the premise being that crowding the midfield will be their only chance of stifling our creativity.
I'd humbly suggest that they could play a midfield 8 and still wouldn't be able to dispossess SJMcG's arse.
Us Some
Them None
I was informed several years back that Blackpool had replaced Brighton as the 'Gay Capital Of England'. Maybe it is the big phallic symbol of the Blackpool Tower and the sticks of rock that clinched it.
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What’s the craic with the Dean Smith anniversary applause today?
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Lots of Brighton on my train up. They're impeccably behaved, the absolute monsters.
And just as I write that a tiny chorus of Que Sera/Shoot the Palace scum from the pre-pubescents in the vestibule. They were too embarrassed to get to the end.
More as it doesn't happen.
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We've never lost at home to Brighton, that won't be changing today. 4-1.
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I can see us beating Brighton but losing or drawing against Hove Albion. I don’t really understand why we’re expected to play them both at the same time anyway.
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I have a soft spot for Brighton because of this wonderful man.
(https://i.ibb.co/7zNtv8B/819-A6-EF5-76-AE-4-C73-B49-D-175-F46-E8-E9-D2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7zNtv8B)
Sorry to have to ask, but who is it please?
Atilla the Stockbroker, punk poet.
Thank you :)