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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Risso on October 02, 2019, 10:12:32 AM
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A much needed 2-1 win I reckon.
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They're decent at their place so can't see them not scoring. They may well have key players out and their defence isn't great so can't see us not scoring.
Our record there in recent years is not clever so going with Them 2 (Pukki 2) us 2 (SJM 2).
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Fancy us to get something. We're due a bit of good fortune/a win.
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Cannery killer Aston villa. Probably a draw at most my head says
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I'm sure I read somewhere over the week-end that Norwich had lost a key defender with a broken arm and due to injuries they were down to playing their third choice goalkeeper
Norwich 1 Aston Villa2
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They've got at least 4 key players out. Big chance that we cannot avoid to pass up to take 3 points.
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Also agree with the 1-2 scoreline, first away win. Come on VILLA
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I can see this being the hardest game we've had so far. No doubt we will have our usual period of excellent play and then the usual backs to the wall job at the end. Hopefully we can hang on through that! I'd love a win though, we have it in us.
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4-3 to us.
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I can see this being the hardest game we've had so far. No doubt we will have our usual period of excellent play and then the usual backs to the wall job at the end. Hopefully we can hang on through that! I'd love a win though, we have it in us.
Why our "hardest game"?
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We're due a win. Surely. Though very narrow margins I reckon.
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I think we gonna win this .
Id like to see Luiz and Marvelous in there in a 4 2 3 1 pushing JG further up.
1-2 Villa SJM Trez
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1-4 to the mighty Villa. Relief and respite.
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D 1-1
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1-4
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Really tough one to call. We need Moraes to start getting involved more and test their shaky defence.
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going to be close, I would take a odd goal win please Villa
UTV
The Doc
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Cannery killer Aston villa. Probably a draw at most my head says
From 1975:
Aston Villa, Canary Killa
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I think we gonna win this .
Id like to see Luiz and Marvelous in there in a 4 2 3 1 pushing JG further up.
1-2 Villa SJM Trez
This has to be the set-up, for me.
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Both sides have been scoring a few this season but also conceding a few. My head says 2-2, my gut feeling is
0-0.
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No idea what to make of this one...
Looking forward to it though, even though it’s a ballache of a trip down there and my favourite place to eat breakfast has changed its menu to no longer offer fryups. :-[
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Longest away of the season for me. In light traffic it's only 4:25. At least its Saturday 3pm, not the god awful noon or evening kick offs we've had the past 3 years.
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Norwich have 10 players on the injury list. Surely a good time to play them?
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We might scrape a draw.2 -2
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Really tough one to call. We need Moraes to start getting involved more and test their shaky defence.
Would consider starting Davis for this one and take Wesley out of the firing line. Douglas for Hourihane and Trezeguet for El Ghazi probably be the only other changes I would make.
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Sky sports are saying Mings, Kodjia and Targett all available for Saturday.
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Same starting eleven as last weekend for me. We played some good stuff, and should have created more chances than we did. Hopefully this time we'll not only make them, but put them away too. Let the ball do a bit more work and hopefully not tire as much as early.
3-0 us, Wes, Grealish, Engels.
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This is massive. A game we have to win. People will moan bigger if we don't. It'll get louder.
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Big one
Got a good feeling about this encounter 1-2
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It’s far too soon for this to be a “must win” but we need to start winning winnable games, however Norwich will be thinking the exact same when they look at their fixture list to see where their next 3pts will be coming from.
This could go either way...I hit Norwich win by mistake in the poll, and I’m going for 1-3 Villa.
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It’s not a must win, but the damage to moral a loss could bring does not bare thinking about
I think it would make Brighton a must win then.
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I want a minimum of 4 point f on the next 2 games. I'll definitely become massively concerned should that not happen.
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We need a win and I think we will beat them so I will go 2-1 Villa.
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I reckon the game will last 120 minutes. Farke time seems to go on for longer than Fergie time when Norwich are at home.
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Really need a win. So let's get there, win the game and come back happy.
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1-3
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2 - 3 to us, SJM to score first.
A scorecast that has been very close in the last 2 league games.
That bet will come about one day.
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This lot have already beaten in teams in the top 6, so a very cautious 1:1.
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I never thought I would ever say this but can we get Lambert back for just this one game. Norwich were about the only team we could beat when he was in charge. We were always "excellent" against them.
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I never thought I would ever say this but can we get Lambert back for just this one game. Norwich were about the only team we could beat when he was in charge. We were always "excellent" against them.
Yep, won all three of our games when he went back, two in league and the other 4-1 in league cup in his first season (in hindsight we should've just lost that as it would've spared us the horror of Bradford).
Since then played four, lost four and two of those performances under Steve Bruce were an embarrassment.
Can see this being an entertaining 2-2. They won't sit back and have some technically good midfielders who'll push up to support Pukki. Buendia is a good player and he scored good goal against us at VP on the last day.
We should get more space to counter attack but also could be a game where we struggle physically after 70 minutes.
Important we don't lose and keep Norwich within range. Then it's all on Brighton.
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This going to be a crazy game.
Norwich 3 Villa 4
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This is the time now. No more excuses about players needed to gel, playing against PL hardened teams or Deano being naive. If we lose i’ll be firmly in the worried camp. So let’s win. 2-0 Villa. Wes and SJM.
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Norwich 0-3 Villa.
All us.
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From memory our record there is rubbish isn’t it? A win under MON and a late winner under Lambert is all I can remember.
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From memory our record there is rubbish isn’t it? A win under MON and a late winner under Lambert is all I can remember.
Can't remember us playing there in MON period.
We won there in 12/13 and 13/14 and also league cup in 12/13. All losses since.
They do have lots of defenders injured and also maybe Krul and second choice keeper....trouble is they had loads of injuries for Man. City game.
If Pukki and Buendia are out there they have good chance of beating us.
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I remember Gabby scoring a winner there and earning me a shit load of money when I had a bet on games.
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I remember going there when SGT was manager and we drew 2-2 - from what I remember McInally scored at least 1?
Tomorrow going for another score draw 1-1
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We have played three lost three away, they have played and beat Man City at home. Not sure why all the optimism.
2-0 defeat for me
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We have played three lost three away, they have played and beat Man City at home. Not sure why all the optimism.
2-0 defeat for me
That City win came amongst three consecutive 2-0 losses for them though. Those losses were all away, but it shows that they're not in great form.
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We have played three lost three away, they have played and beat Man City at home. Not sure why all the optimism.
2-0 defeat for me
Norwich have up to 10 (TEN) players unavailable due to injury. As I said earlier in the week, if we can't beat them on Saturday we may as well give up.
3-0 Villa
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We have played three lost three away, they have played and beat Man City at home. Not sure why all the optimism.
2-0 defeat for me
Norwich have up to 10 (TEN) players unavailable due to injury. As I said earlier in the week, if we can't beat them on Saturday we may as well give up.
3-0 Villa
They had a rake of injuries for the game in which they beat City.
It would appear their strength in depth is of a higher quality than ours.
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We will only lose if we make the sort of errors we have been. Play like we did V Burnley but tighten up at the back and we'll win.
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People keep going on about Norwich's Man City win, as if they played them off the park - City had 70% of the possession and 25 shots. Norwich had 3 shots on target and scored all of them. 19 times out of 20 they lose that game. It's still a brilliant result for a newly promoted side, obviously, and I'd love us to do something similar when we play them, but let's not pretend it means Norwich are some sort of unbeatable force when playing at Carrow road.
2-1 win.
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they might be down to their 3rd keeper, among other injuries. Even if Pukki was out ( and he's not), they do have other goals in them and Farke will line them up to still be effective
The downside of having to bring in players to cover, they might not be match fit.
We need to win, and its a game that we can win, if the Management apply some sensible game management
Oh and dont start with Wesley.
Also, the beeb have given a factually correct, but nonsense stat: Norwich have lost 19 of the last 20 PL games in which they conceded first.
How is that relevent? :o
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We will only lose if we make the sort of errors we have been. Play like we did V Burnley but tighten up at the back and we'll win.
These type of predictions are meaningless.
We will win if we “don’t make mistakes/play to our potential etc” just mean the caveat kicks in if we don’t win.
Bottom line is we have been regularly making mistakes giving goals away and also defending too deep if ahead. Our record there is crap and they are a strong home team. How people think a win is the logical result I have no idea.
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It's football. What's logic got to do with it?
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Who is going to start tomorrow?
I'm guessing:
Heaton
Guilbert
Targett
Engels
Mings
Nakamba
McGinn
Grealish
Hourihane
Trezeguet
Wesley
Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Taylor at left-back and El Ghazi in for Trez.
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It's football. What's logic got to do with it?
True, its all down to luck.
And you make your own luck, by working hard. You know, like John McGinn does.
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It's football. What's logic got to do with it?
True, its all down to luck.
And you make your own luck, by working hard. You know, like John McGinn does.
Too right. And I've seen enough of us already to be able to think we're on the cusp of being luckier, as it were. Starting tomorrow.
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Luck. Hm. Well, history would suggest that luck has been very much against us for a long long time now.
So for those implying that all we're missing right now is a bit of luck... what makes you think that's about to suddenly change in our favour?
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Luck. Hm. Well, history would suggest that luck has been very much against us for a long long time now.
So for those implying that all we're missing right now is a bit of luck... what makes you think that's about to suddenly change in our favour?
Luck.
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Who is going to start tomorrow?
I'm guessing:
Heaton
Guilbert
Targett
Engels
Mings
Nakamba
McGinn
Grealish
Hourihane
Trezeguet
Wesley
Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Taylor at left-back and El Ghazi in for Trez.
I think El Ghazi will be back in, either for Hourihane or Trezeguet. I reckon Targett will start. If Taylor starts after his woeful display against Burnley, then I'll really start to have some doubts about Smith.
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There is a lot of talk about luck. I think if you believe you have been unlucky you are entitled to be unhappy but you also have to quickly get over it. Feeling sorry for yourself doesn't get you very far. I recall something SGT once said. If you win on a Saturday feel free to pat yourself on the back all weekend and if you lose feel free to feel sorry for yourself all weekend. But either way once Monday comes around put it in the past get back to work and move on.
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Who is going to start tomorrow?
I'm guessing:
Heaton
Guilbert
Targett
Engels
Mings
Nakamba
McGinn
Grealish
Hourihane
Trezeguet
Wesley
Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Taylor at left-back and El Ghazi in for Trez.
I think El Ghazi will be back in, either for Hourihane or Trezeguet. I reckon Targett will start. If Taylor starts after his woeful display against Burnley, then I'll really start to have some doubts about Smith.
Were you there for the Burnley game, Riss? How did they line-up in the end? 4-2-3-1 or 4-1-3-2 or something like that?
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From memory our record there is rubbish isn’t it? A win under MON and a late winner under Lambert is all I can remember.
I went there one New Year's day, got on the plane with the players, got my shirt signed, it was a perfect way to start the year ignoring the fact that we lost. Still a great memory though.
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The team that started vs burnley would do me.
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Both Aston Villa and Norwich City have conceded 121 shots at goal this season . Only arsenal more .
Perhaps this won't be a 0-0
How can you 'concede' shots??
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We have to keep racking up the points, settle for a draw, would love the win.
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Who is going to start tomorrow?
I'm guessing:
Heaton
Guilbert
Targett
Engels
Mings
Nakamba
McGinn
Grealish
Hourihane
Trezeguet
Wesley
Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Taylor at left-back and El Ghazi in for Trez.
I think El Ghazi will be back in, either for Hourihane or Trezeguet. I reckon Targett will start. If Taylor starts after his woeful display against Burnley, then I'll really start to have some doubts about Smith.
When you look at it written down, that looks a very good side. Why can we not defend a lead?
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Heaton
Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert
Nkamba
McGinn
Luiz
Grealish
Wesley
Trezuguet
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Lawro and Charlie have been so supportive of us this season. Such lovely men.
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I'd go wild and start Kodj in the front three. Had a good scoring record v Norwich in championship although seems he's not fit despite being back in full training.
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The team that started vs burnley would do me.
I certainly want Trezuguet back in, for Hourihane who didn't impress for me last week. Norwich have loads of injuries, lets go for it
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I think El Ghazi will be back in, either for Hourihane or Trezeguet. I reckon Targett will start. If Taylor starts after his woeful display against Burnley, then I'll really start to have some doubts about Smith.
Ha! And you have no doubts about CR7's eyebrows starting?
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I think El Ghazi will be back in, either for Hourihane or Trezeguet. I reckon Targett will start. If Taylor starts after his woeful display against Burnley, then I'll really start to have some doubts about Smith.
Ha! And you have no doubts about CR7's eyebrows starting?
Well, he's more of a goal threat than Trezeguet, and Hourihane looked a bit out of place shoehorned into that system.
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Davis should start, but he won’t.
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Heaton
Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert
Nkamba
McGinn
Luiz
Grealish
Wesley
Trezuguet
That's my starting team as well Ads. With El Ghazi & Hourinane to come on.
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Davis should start, but he won’t.
Agreed, or at least bring h8m on earlier if Wesley is struggling
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Come on Villa boys, let's win this! We need to finish games as strongly as we generally appear to be starting them. We've been competitive away from home, Palace being the poorer of our games, but I expect us to be competitive today. Starting with the extra midfielder at the expence of a winger is the way forward. I suspect that may be Luiz today, though Conor loves playing Norwich and when he's out of the team, no-one has stepped up to be the dead ball specialist that we need (against a shaky Norwich defence, that could be crucial). 3 points ahead of the international break would be great and would set us up nicely for our next home game. UTV!
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Has anyone a link to a proper video of the players entering the pitch, with the music, flags, fireworks etc. Trying to impress my 3 year old so he nags mum to let him come with me. Cheers x
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3-1 to Villa. Grealish first goal.
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Heaton
Freddy Engles Mings Targett
Luiz Nakamba
SJM Connor Jack
Wes
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The right side of insightful effervescence from vill I an, (weren't he in the Black Eyed Peas?), got me pumped for the game now. Cheers our kid.
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Currently in the most horrendous traffic jam en route to Norwich!
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Heaton
Freddy Engles Mings Targett
Luiz Nakamba
SJM Connor Jack
Wes
I'd go with this too. What's the point of wingers when we don't have a Dion Dublin type forward up front. Give Jack, SJM and Conor license to roam in and around Wesley, and I think we could be much more fruitful.
And based on recent showings, if Wesley is his usual lacklustre self, hook him at HT. Hopefully, he'll start rewarding the faith the gaffer has in him - Starting today!
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BBC are saying that, due to a goalkeeping crisis Norwich are going to have to play their third choice keeper, Michael McGovern. He joined them in 2016-17 season, making 20 appearances, then hasn't played for them again until last weekend, when he came on as sub. So we've gotta put him under a lot of pressure.
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He had an amazing game against Germany in Euro 2016.
One of his last games for Norwich before last weekend was playing at VP in 2-0 defeat in April 2017. Kodj was amazing in that period, scored twice that day.
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Heaton
Targett
Mings
Engels
Guilbert
Nkamba
McGinn
Luiz
Grealish
Wesley
Trezuguet
That's my starting team as well Ads. With El Ghazi & Hourinane to come on.
I'll have some of that too.
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Not saying I'm superstitious but can anybody other than Toronto start the Match thread?
That boy is jinxed.