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Title: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 26, 2019, 03:03:45 PM
Would say a couple of trips to West ham, Chelsea 78 and fa Cup cup Everton away 3Rd round with a train strike

Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: JD on September 27, 2019, 04:25:19 AM
Chelsea away New Years Day 1990 was a small following. I think the support was in the 100's rather than 1000"s. A bitter freezing day, made better by  3-0 win.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 27, 2019, 05:26:10 AM
There was plenty of time in the mid-80s when the away terrace would have at best a few hundred on it. I remember being at Roker Park for the penultimate away game of the 84/85 season and I doubt there were 200 other Villa fans there.
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Post by: GXVilla on September 27, 2019, 11:07:26 AM
Feeling good that I was at Everton for the 3rd round match and Chelsea 1990, but both were relatively decent turn outs I thought. Nadir must have been mid 80's as you can't really count the pre-division 3 days. My guess would be a few trips to Newcastle. Certainly never ventured there myself! Weren't many at Boro in the championship season and it was bloody freezing in the snow.
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Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2019, 01:45:32 PM
If my memory is correct I think there were very sparse away ends at Selhurst Park for Charlton away Easter Monday 1987 (I think the attendance in the ground that day was under 6,000) and for Huddersfield away in the pissing rain early on the following season. They are the two occasions I recall being in the away end and it being mostly empty.

Just checked the attendances and Charlton was 5,595 and Huddersfield was 6,884. David Hunt is credited with the only goal of the game at Huddersfield. My memory of it is that Steve Hunt scored the goal 'early doors' at the away end.

I think the lowest crowd I have been part of for a competitive game at Villa Park was Bradfrord in the Simod Cup in 1987 when they beat us 5-0 and we couldn't handle the problems Ian Ormondroyd caused us. I am guessing SGT later signed him mainly based on that game. Apparently 4,217 was the attendance that night.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on September 27, 2019, 01:54:43 PM
Chelsea away New Years Day 1990 was a small following. I think the support was in the 100's rather than 1000"s. A bitter freezing day, made better by  3-0 win.
Nah, we took loads that day
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2019, 02:03:27 PM
Chelsea away New Years Day 1990 was a small following. I think the support was in the 100's rather than 1000"s. A bitter freezing day, made better by  3-0 win.
Nah, we took loads that day


Maybe he was thinking of a midweek game we played there when BFR was in charge. I think we lost 2-0 and Townsend and Vinnie Jones scored for them. I don't think we took that many that night. In fact I think the total attendance might have only been about 14,000-15,000.

Just looked it up. I was right about the score and the scorers but the attendance was 17,182.
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Post by: Richard E on September 27, 2019, 08:08:20 PM
I seem to remember going to that game and getting completely hammered with a Chelsea supporting mate, forgetting I was supposed to be driving home when I got back to Wolverhampton.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 27, 2019, 08:20:17 PM
Nadir must have been mid 80's as you can't really count the pre-division 3 days. My guess would be a few trips to Newcastle.

I was at St James's in the 86/87 relegation season and it was bloody freezing!   I've just found this on YouTube and there was more there than I remember (I think I can spot my brother when we equalize, but not me or my mate - and we were were standing together.)   At the end, we were kept in for ages and then asked how we were getting home.   A number of us said by train and we were given a lift back to Newcastle Central Station in the back of a police transit.

Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 27, 2019, 08:22:03 PM
My memory of Palace away in the early 90s were that there was plenty of standing space, think it was a 0-0 too.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 27, 2019, 10:04:02 PM
Chelsea, 1985 I think. Rearranged game. Bumped into a kid at Euston who I vaguely remembered being in the year below me at my school. Me and him made up about a quarter of our following that night, so my memory tells me anyway. 
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2019, 10:22:14 PM
Chelsea away New Years Day 1990 was a small following. I think the support was in the 100's rather than 1000"s. A bitter freezing day, made better by  3-0 win.
Nah, we took loads that day


We had some really big crowds around the turn of the year in 1989-1990.  We beat Manure 3-0 on Boxing Day in front of 41,247 and even got 36,532 against Port Vale in the FA Cup fourth round.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2019, 10:32:07 PM
I wonder how many fans we took to Reykjavik, Berlin and Kiev, the last of which was moved to Simferopol in the Crimea.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 27, 2019, 11:01:28 PM
How many went to Tokyo for the intercontinental cup?

When I first started going to away games in 2000 there was never any doubt you'd get a ticket and very few I was at were sold out. Smallest gathering I recall was winning at Elland Road a couple of days before Christmas 2000. We were in the corner bit and definitely not full.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: olaftab on September 28, 2019, 12:35:54 AM
225 at the Luiznik stadium Moscow on a -12c night to watch our youth team take on CSKA.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: wittonwarrior on September 28, 2019, 12:37:17 AM
To be honest up to 80/81 our away support back in Div 1 was dire outside of the midlands games.

Even earlier for example v orient last game of season if 100 were there I would be exaggerating






Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 28, 2019, 07:42:14 AM
225 at the Luiznik stadium Moscow on a -12c night to watch our youth team take on CSKA.

At least you got a meal out of it
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: JD on September 28, 2019, 08:30:35 AM
Chelsea away New Years Day 1990 was a small following. I think the support was in the 100's rather than 1000"s. A bitter freezing day, made better by  3-0 win.
Nah, we took loads that day

I didn't think we did. Maybe I'm just getting old and just remember how cold it was. 
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on September 28, 2019, 12:26:08 PM
My memory of Palace away in the early 90s were that there was plenty of standing space, think it was a 0-0 too.


My memories of Selhurst Park are of us having a terrace behind the goal if we were playing Charlton or Wimbledon but having seats in the lower tier of one side if we were playing Palace. I know I was standing behind the goal when we lost to Charlton to pretty much send us down in 1987 and also for the Dalian umbrella game and the FA Cup penalty shoot out game against Wimbledon. When we lost 1-0 to a Gary Thompson goal against Palace in the 1990 title run in we were in seats at the side near one corner and very close to the pitch.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Charlie8182 on September 28, 2019, 07:13:44 PM
I was at that 3-0 win at Chelsea on 1/1/90, I like many others was hungover and as a result a bit quieter than normal but Iím sure there were still quite a few of us, especially after beating Man Utd & Arsenal over Christmas.

Im not quite sure why I ended up going to a 2-1 Simod Cup defeat at Derby in November 1988 but you could quickly count our sparse following for that one.

Big Rons 1st season in 1991/92 I went to all but one of our away games, our big following at Anfield in March for the FA cup game was sandwiched by night games at Leeds & Notts County (both 0-0), I remember us only having very small gatherings for both of those.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Bernie on September 28, 2019, 08:01:29 PM
Nadir must have been mid 80's as you can't really count the pre-division 3 days. My guess would be a few trips to Newcastle.

I was at St James's in the 86/87 relegation season and it was bloody freezing!   I've just found this on YouTube and there was more there than I remember (I think I can spot my brother when we equalize, but not me or my mate - and we were were standing together.)   At the end, we were kept in for ages and then asked how we were getting home.   A number of us said by train and we were given a lift back to Newcastle Central Station in the back of a police transit.


That sounds spookily similar to a trip there at the end of the 1976/77 season when it felt like there were maybe a few dozen, if even that, of Villa fans there, and a handful of us were given a lift back to the station in the back of a police van. In contrast it was warm May day, and from memory we lost, 2-1(?).
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Richard E on September 29, 2019, 06:41:23 AM
I was at that 3-0 win at Chelsea on 1/1/90, I like many others was hungover and as a result a bit quieter than normal but Iím sure there were still quite a few of us, especially after beating Man Utd & Arsenal over Christmas.

Im not quite sure why I ended up going to a 2-1 Simod Cup defeat at Derby in November 1988 but you could quickly count our sparse following for that one.

Big Rons 1st season in 1991/92 I went to all but one of our away games, our big following at Anfield in March for the FA cup game was sandwiched by night games at Leeds & Notts County (both 0-0), I remember us only having very small gatherings for both of those.

It was absolutely freezing at Notts County that night.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on September 29, 2019, 01:36:23 PM
I was at that 3-0 win at Chelsea on 1/1/90, I like many others was hungover and as a result a bit quieter than normal but Iím sure there were still quite a few of us, especially after beating Man Utd & Arsenal over Christmas.

Im not quite sure why I ended up going to a 2-1 Simod Cup defeat at Derby in November 1988 but you could quickly count our sparse following for that one.

Big Rons 1st season in 1991/92 I went to all but one of our away games, our big following at Anfield in March for the FA cup game was sandwiched by night games at Leeds & Notts County (both 0-0), I remember us only having very small gatherings for both of those.

It was absolutely freezing at Notts County that night.


Absolutely. The coldest I have ever been at an away game was that night at Notts County. I think Staunton missed a penalty. The wettest I have ever been at an away game was Huddersfield in 1987. The coldest I have ever been at Villa Park was a ZDS cup tie against Forest. Not the one that was on a Friday night shortly before Christmas 1989, another one a couple of years later. On the other side of the coin I can't remember when I was at the hottest game I can recall. I do remember it was very hot and humid in Rotterdam in 1982.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 29, 2019, 03:57:42 PM
Did we ever have to play at Luton during their away fans ban ?
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 29, 2019, 04:32:28 PM
Did we ever have to play at Luton during their away fans ban ?

3 times I think, only season we didn't was when we were in division 2.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: OzVilla on September 30, 2019, 05:02:29 AM
Did we ever have to play at Luton during their away fans ban ?

I went to that game in around October 1990 under Venglos, think we lost 2-0 and IIRC it was the day I realised the small amount of hype around Mark Blake (?) was exactly that, he was utter gash.   Remember being surprised at how many Villa had managed to get in though.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: sid1964 on September 30, 2019, 07:13:43 AM
Huddersfield away under SGT, I thought was a decent following, I stood on the terraces in the rain, but we had a good following in the seats.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Clampy on September 30, 2019, 07:29:14 AM
One that sticks in my mind was Boro away in the Simod Cup of Zenith Data Systems Cup (I forget which) under SGT. It was the second leg of the semi final which we lost. From memory, there wasn't many of us there at all.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: TheTimVilla on September 30, 2019, 10:49:11 AM
Did we ever have to play at Luton during their away fans ban ?

My Dad enrolled us as Luton fans, via my Grandfather's Milton Keynes address, to ensure we got tickets!

There was a bit in the programme on Saturday that our record low following is one! Plymouth away in December 1960, in a 4th round replay of the League Cup!
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Pat McMahon on September 30, 2019, 02:42:34 PM
225 at the Luiznik stadium Moscow on a -12c night to watch our youth team take on CSKA.

At least you got a meal out of it

Ironically Aftab was turned away from a restaurant in Moscow. And it wasn't because  of his behaviour....
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Pat McMahon on September 30, 2019, 02:52:18 PM
Nadir must have been mid 80's as you can't really count the pre-division 3 days. My guess would be a few trips to Newcastle.

I was at St James's in the 86/87 relegation season and it was bloody freezing!   I've just found this on YouTube and there was more there than I remember (I think I can spot my brother when we equalize, but not me or my mate - and we were were standing together.)   At the end, we were kept in for ages and then asked how we were getting home.   A number of us said by train and we were given a lift back to Newcastle Central Station in the back of a police transit.


That sounds spookily similar to a trip there at the end of the 1976/77 season when it felt like there were maybe a few dozen, if even that, of Villa fans there, and a handful of us were given a lift back to the station in the back of a police van. In contrast it was warm May day, and from memory we lost, 2-1(?).

It wasn't just us. I remember us relegating Newcastle at a midweek home game around 1978-79. We won 2-0 IIRC.

They had a transit van of fans come down for the game and the following day the Evening Mail ran a story on how the dozen or so blokes had their petrol money covered by their players as a gesture of thanks.

When the Trinity enclosure became seating around 1972 my dad switched us to the Witton end, to the left of the goal. Many teams brought very small turnouts. With no roof, you usually couldn't hear them either, even stood in the same end. The only time we would switch to the Holte was for Blues and Man U. Liverpool never filled the Witton End - I was there for the 1975-76 0-0 and the 1976-77 5-1 and i reckon the Witton End was probably 50% Villa
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on September 30, 2019, 03:18:21 PM
I went to Luton when the away fans ban was in force (1992?). There seemed to be a few of us dotted around the ground that day.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on September 30, 2019, 03:37:27 PM
Did we ever have to play at Luton during their away fans ban ?

I think it was in our relegation season in 1986/1987 when they put a big screen up in the Villa Leisure centre and charged us something like a fiver to watch the away game at Luton. I think we lost 2-1. Andy Blair was out injured and provided a half time and full time summary over a microphone. I can't remember who the other guy working with him was. I have no idea how many people were in there that day.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on September 30, 2019, 03:41:14 PM
I went to Luton when the away fans ban was in force (1992?). There seemed to be a few of us dotted around the ground that day.


I think 1992 was when Bosnich made his debut at Luton and we lost 2-0 in what I think was our last away game of the season. Due to the away ban it was the first time I had visited Kenilworth Road so 1991-1992 was possibly the first year after the away fan ban ended.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 30, 2019, 04:04:48 PM
One that sticks in my mind was Boro away in the Simod Cup of Zenith Data Systems Cup (I forget which) under SGT. It was the second leg of the semi final which we lost. From memory, there wasn't many of us there at all.

Another vote for Boro away but this one in the league with a televised game. Two of us traveled over from Leeds to be met at the train stations by loads of very confused police. They put us in the back of their Transit and dropped us off at the ground. They also picked us up after the game and taxied us back. Probably just as well as I recall hearing the few Villa fans that traveled got picked off by Boro fans after the game.

Non-competitive game has to be the July 2000 friendly against Benfica. I was literally the only Villa fan there though I did hear later the few that traveled were rounded up and put in the Press Box.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on September 30, 2019, 04:12:16 PM
I think that televised Boro league game was Valentine's Day 1988.
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Post by: Des Little on September 30, 2019, 10:31:08 PM
I went to Luton when the away fans ban was in force (1992?). There seemed to be a few of us dotted around the ground that day.

I was there too. Seem to recall Cascarino playing for us, and Lars Elstrup scoring for them?

Was also at Boro in the Simod/ZDS cup, and amazed that their fans took time out of celebrating getting to Wembley to smash our coach windows.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 30, 2019, 11:37:25 PM
There was a bit in the programme on Saturday that our record low following is one! Plymouth away in December 1960, in a 4th round replay of the League Cup!


How can they be so sure ?

1) Nearly all games then were cash at the gate with no away section turnstiles or segregation.

2) Were the other 11,005 people in the ground really all Plymouth or neutrals ?

3) The game finished 0-0. How can they be sure more away fans went to the second replay a few weeks later ? Maybe it was the same person but this time he got a friend to come along as well ?
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Post by: dave.woodhall on October 01, 2019, 12:04:33 AM
There was a bit in the programme on Saturday that our record low following is one! Plymouth away in December 1960, in a 4th round replay of the League Cup!


How can they be so sure ?

1) Nearly all games then were cash at the gate with no away section turnstiles or segregation.

2) Were the other 11,005 people in the ground really all Plymouth or neutrals ?

3) The game finished 0-0. How can they be sure more away fans went to the second replay a few weeks later ? Maybe it was the same person but this time he got a friend to come along as well ?

It was John Russell and the story has been mentioned a couple of times in H&Vs passim. In those days when there wasn't much of an away following (ie if there wasn't a train or coach laid on) everyone who went to the game would meet up at the players entrance. John says he didn't see anyone on the train there or back, there were no other Villa supporters at the players entrance and nobody has ever contradicted his claim and said they were there.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: steamer on October 01, 2019, 07:34:54 PM
York away in the league cup
Night game, 73
only 7000 at the  game, me and a couple of others is all I remember being there. One of them ( Haddon ) is now a Holte ender in the sky.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: 144 Hard Boiled Eggs on October 09, 2019, 01:08:11 PM
Nadir must have been mid 80's as you can't really count the pre-division 3 days. My guess would be a few trips to Newcastle.

I was at St James's in the 86/87 relegation season and it was bloody freezing!   I've just found this on YouTube and there was more there than I remember (I think I can spot my brother when we equalize, but not me or my mate - and we were were standing together.)   At the end, we were kept in for ages and then asked how we were getting home.   A number of us said by train and we were given a lift back to Newcastle Central Station in the back of a police transit.


That sounds spookily similar to a trip there at the end of the 1976/77 season when it felt like there were maybe a few dozen, if even that, of Villa fans there, and a handful of us were given a lift back to the station in the back of a police van. In contrast it was warm May day, and from memory we lost, 2-1(?).

It wasn't just us. I remember us relegating Newcastle at a midweek home game around 1978-79. We won 2-0 IIRC.

They had a transit van of fans come down for the game and the following day the Evening Mail ran a story on how the dozen or so blokes had their petrol money covered by their players as a gesture of thanks.

When the Trinity enclosure became seating around 1972 my dad switched us to the Witton end, to the left of the goal. Many teams brought very small turnouts. With no roof, you usually couldn't hear them either, even stood in the same end. The only time we would switch to the Holte was for Blues and Man U. Liverpool never filled the Witton End - I was there for the 1975-76 0-0 and the 1976-77 5-1 and i reckon the Witton End was probably 50% Villa
1984 at Newcastle (their first game back in Division 1, I think) was lively and we were also taken back to the station in a police van.
I remember just getting in the ground at West Ham in the mid 70's as Andy Gray scored in the first minute and not seeing any celebrations in the ground (I kept quiet the whole game).
Leeds away, League Cup replay 1972 didn't seem to have many Villa there (although I sat with the Leeds fans in the seats as a very silent 10 year old).
As others have said, plenty of small followings around 1984.Percy and Dave W probably remember details/matches.
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Post by: SashasGrandad on October 09, 2019, 07:19:01 PM
I wonder how many fans we took to Reykjavik, Berlin and Kiev, the last of which was moved to Simferopol in the Crimea.

I think was 57 of us who went to the Inter Tonto cup game in Reykjavik some of us went on the official club plane.

I remember going on a boat trip during the day - didn't wear a coat and found out how cold it was at sea in an open boat so close to the arctic circle. It was August and I thought a Villa shirt would be warm enough! Didn't see any whales, just a load of ducks on a rocky island just offshore.

Match was a comfortable 4-1 win - a band played most of the game which gave it a bit of atmosphere. But otherwise not the most exciting trip.

First day I went to the hot springs lagoon which was a lot warmer, along with a lot of the other 57 villa fans, quite a few villa towels on the railings!
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 09, 2019, 09:58:07 PM

As others have said, plenty of small followings around 1984.Percy and Dave W probably remember details/matches.

From 1983-87 our away support was often downright embarrassing. At the start of 1985-86 a midweek game at Southampton (Steve Hodge's debut) had about 200 or so of us there but the lowest was probably a night match at Newcastle in April 1986.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on October 09, 2019, 10:25:15 PM
It wasn't a competitive game but I was at Witney Town when BFR gave a load of debuts to his summer signings in 1991. There were no stands so everyone (and there weren't many of us) were just stood around the touchline. I think BFR had started his coaching experience at Witney whilst still playing at nearby Oxford. I can't remember the score but we won by a fair number of goals, one of them scored by Ivo Stas which was allowed despite going through the unstable side netting and creeping into the goal. The subs were just standing around the touchline and I ended up having a chat with Kevin Richardson during the game.
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Post by: spineynorman on October 16, 2019, 05:02:15 PM
I went to Boro on the football special in I think 79 (looking at the records I thought it was 0-0 and that fits) when there were 12 of us I think on the train. Some BR guy tried to persuade us we didn't really want to go but accepted it and the train had about 8 carriages as I recall. No wonder BR didn't make any money. The Transport Police cut down on the numbers and I think a couple of them made the trip. No-one had obviously told the police in Boro because when we arrived they were there on the platform with police dogs. The BTP from the train said they would meet us back after the game and one guy asked if it was ok to bring some beer back (which was probably banned by then) and they agreed it was ok. I don't recall seeing any other Villa fans there but I'm sure the old Travellers Club must have taken a coach like they always did. So maybe 100 at most assuming a few went by car ?

I also went to Luton during the ban with my mate and his Dad. I think he had a contact who was a teacher in Luton who got us in. I do recall seeing a few other Vila fans that day.
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Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on October 18, 2019, 08:44:04 AM
It wasn't a competitive game but I was at Witney Town when BFR gave a load of debuts to his summer signings in 1991. There were no stands so everyone (and there weren't many of us) were just stood around the touchline. I think BFR had started his coaching experience at Witney whilst still playing at nearby Oxford. I can't remember the score but we won by a fair number of goals, one of them scored by Ivo Stas which was allowed despite going through the unstable side netting and creeping into the goal. The subs were just standing around the touchline and I ended up having a chat with Kevin Richardson during the game.

I was there. I remember the side netting goal but couldn't remember the game. I can die happy now!
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Post by: AV82EC on October 18, 2019, 11:25:15 AM
Leeds away in I think 91-92, a terrible 0-0 draw from recollection and a following of about 400-500.

Away at Boro in 04-05 lost 3-0 Iíd say there were less than 700-800 there.
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Post by: olaftab on October 18, 2019, 11:34:55 AM

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Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on October 18, 2019, 04:47:22 PM
It wasn't a competitive game but I was at Witney Town when BFR gave a load of debuts to his summer signings in 1991. There were no stands so everyone (and there weren't many of us) were just stood around the touchline. I think BFR had started his coaching experience at Witney whilst still playing at nearby Oxford. I can't remember the score but we won by a fair number of goals, one of them scored by Ivo Stas which was allowed despite going through the unstable side netting and creeping into the goal. The subs were just standing around the touchline and I ended up having a chat with Kevin Richardson during the game.





I was there. I remember the side netting goal but couldn't remember the game. I can die happy now!



I think we won 6-0.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on October 18, 2019, 04:50:43 PM
Leeds away in I think 91-92, a terrible 0-0 draw from recollection and a following of about 400-500.

Away at Boro in 04-05 lost 3-0 Iíd say there were less than 700-800 there.


I remember us losing heavily away to Leeds in the early nineties (in the League Cup I think) and later that night the Gulf War kicked off.
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Post by: Charlie8182 on October 18, 2019, 07:56:18 PM
Leeds away in I think 91-92, a terrible 0-0 draw from recollection and a following of about 400-500.

Away at Boro in 04-05 lost 3-0 Iíd say there were less than 700-800 there.


I remember us losing heavily away to Leeds in the early nineties (in the League Cup I think) and later that night the Gulf War kicked off.

I went to that game at Leeds, 4-1 and yes the gulf war started when our coach arrived back in Brum at about midnight, our following wasnít bad though as it was the League Cup quarter final.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: TopDeck113 on October 18, 2019, 08:27:25 PM
Leeds away in I think 91-92, a terrible 0-0 draw from recollection and a following of about 400-500.

I can recall going to that. Is that when the away fans were still on the Lowfields Road side of the ground with the East Stand being built above them?  I can remember a dire game but I don't remember the away following being particularly low.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on October 19, 2019, 11:22:59 AM
Leeds away in I think 91-92, a terrible 0-0 draw from recollection and a following of about 400-500.

I can recall going to that. Is that when the away fans were still on the Lowfields Road side of the ground with the East Stand being built above them?  I can remember a dire game but I don't remember the away following being particularly low.

That was Dean Saundersí debut a year or 2 later? I went up for that, nil-nil, Sunday afternoon. Thought we had a decent following
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: garyshawsknee on October 19, 2019, 12:00:51 PM
I went to Luton when the away fans ban was in force (1992?). There seemed to be a few of us dotted around the ground that day.


I think 1992 was when Bosnich made his debut at Luton and we lost 2-0 in what I think was our last away game of the season. Due to the away ban it was the first time I had visited Kenilworth Road so 1991-1992 was possibly the first year after the away fan ban ended.

I was at that game in the home end. My brother and I asked if we could be moved to the away end and they allowed us. Terrible, meaningless game.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on October 19, 2019, 12:37:43 PM
Leeds away in I think 91-92, a terrible 0-0 draw from recollection and a following of about 400-500.

I can recall going to that. Is that when the away fans were still on the Lowfields Road side of the ground with the East Stand being built above them?  I can remember a dire game but I don't remember the away following being particularly low.


That was Dean Saundersí debut a year or 2 later? I went up for that, nil-nil, Sunday afternoon. Thought we had a decent following



We were in the Lowfields stand for Deano's debut early in the 1992-1993 season. Garry Parker scored for us in the first half, Deano put the ball in the net at some point but it was disallowed and Steve Hodge got a late equaliser for Leeds.

Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: clash city rocker on October 19, 2019, 11:57:42 PM
Remember going to a league cup game away to cambridge on a Wednesday night with about 400/500 villa fans.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Damo70 on October 20, 2019, 12:03:52 AM
Remember going to a league cup game away to cambridge on a Wednesday night with about 400/500 villa fans.

Was that the year we won the league and avoided having to play too many fixtures by failing to qualify for Europe the previous season and going out of both domestic cups early doors to Cambridge and Ipswich?
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 20, 2019, 09:06:25 PM
Remember going to a league cup game away to cambridge on a Wednesday night with about 400/500 villa fans.

Was that the year we won the league and avoided having to play too many fixtures by failing to qualify for Europe the previous season and going out of both domestic cups early doors to Cambridge and Ipswich?

Hate to say it but compared to the likes of West Ham /Chelsea/Middlesborough/Newcastle and Leeds in the day 400/500 was a massive turnout.

Would say 1st replay v Palace in the league cup smallest turnout for a proper cup tie.  Not that many more at Goodison in 78 either.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on October 22, 2019, 03:26:39 PM
Highbury Feb 78.Must have been all of 50 of us on the Clock End. Had to buy a Malcolm Macdonald badge to put on my crombie to blend in on the side terrace! Compounded by us winning.When the goal went in I had to feign annoyance.Went nuts after.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 22, 2019, 05:52:20 PM
Highbury Feb 78.Must have been all of 50 of us on the Clock End. Had to buy a Malcolm Macdonald badge to put on my crombie to blend in on the side terrace! Compounded by us winning.When the goal went in I had to feign annoyance.Went nuts after.

Even as a  17 year old I was there bladdered after a day on the Guinness with Cockney Nick in his manor at Barnet - the scruffy little greezer . (of Dave/Nick/Clive fame)   They were supposed to be looking out for me as well.  Think there would  have been more than 50.  A lot would have bought seat tickets after the aggravation at the 0-0 game the season before.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: sid1964 on October 23, 2019, 08:23:40 AM
Southampton away - start of the 82-83 season we lost 1-0 (I think) about 300 - 400 Villa there.

Remember after the game being escorted by the police to the coach park, and the police telling the Southampton fans to wind up their windows, as we may spit into their cars!
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Pat McMahon on October 23, 2019, 02:04:17 PM
Southampton away - start of the 82-83 season we lost 1-0 (I think) about 300 - 400 Villa there.

Remember after the game being escorted by the police to the coach park, and the police telling the Southampton fans to wind up their windows, as we may spit into their cars!

I  remember being on holiday in Paris for that and learning the score up the Eiffel tower.

IIRC a kid from our estate was in the C Crew and that day Man U played at the Albion. A number of the C Crew had got on well with some Man U fans during that summer's world cup so they went to join them at their game instead of going to Southampton.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: SO Villa on October 28, 2019, 10:57:56 PM
Chelsea away New Years Day 1990 was a small following. I think the support was in the 100's rather than 1000"s. A bitter freezing day, made better by  3-0 win.

You're mistaken about Chelsea in 1990. I was there and we filled about 2/3 of the large curved away terrace which would mean about 5000 I reckon. There must be some footage on YouTube.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: AV82EC on October 29, 2019, 01:20:55 PM
Leeds away in I think 91-92, a terrible 0-0 draw from recollection and a following of about 400-500.

I can recall going to that. Is that when the away fans were still on the Lowfields Road side of the ground with the East Stand being built above them?  I can remember a dire game but I don't remember the away following being particularly low.


That was Dean Saundersí debut a year or 2 later? I went up for that, nil-nil, Sunday afternoon. Thought we had a decent following



We were in the Lowfields stand for Deano's debut early in the 1992-1993 season. Garry Parker scored for us in the first half, Deano put the ball in the net at some point but it was disallowed and Steve Hodge got a late equaliser for Leeds.

Damo is right Deanos debut was the 92/93 season and we were robbed. I think the 91/92 game may also have been a rearranged fixture hence the low turnout, from recollection we only had one pen and it was half empty.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: lennythekad on December 09, 2019, 12:26:28 AM
Fenerbache and Gornik Zabrze in UEFA cup 77-78. There were about forty at each game, mainly the same people.
Newcastle in 76-7 ( I think), there were 110 on the special (I counted them) and some of those were women from the Rugeley area, taking advantage of a cheap day trip back to the North East to see relatives ( husbands were Geordies who worked at Lea Hall pit.
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 25, 2019, 09:55:14 PM
A lost more went turkey than Poland   I was on the official trip when Alan cox ex semi pro and travel organiser of the London lions took me along promising my mum that he would look after me. I remember he was staggering back to the hotel first night.

The gormik game perhaps only 40 or 50.   Some domestic games such as boro, Leeds , West Ham etc not many more
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: Rudy65 on December 25, 2019, 10:40:42 PM
Southampton away - start of the 82-83 season we lost 1-0 (I think) about 300 - 400 Villa there.

Remember after the game being escorted by the police to the coach park, and the police telling the Southampton fans to wind up their windows, as we may spit into their cars!

Boiling hot day as I recall. Justin Fashanu taking lots of stick. I hate to think what was being said  Donít recall a low following but the Dell was small particularly in the away end
Title: Re: Smallest away following with the villa - competitive first team game
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 25, 2019, 11:54:44 PM
My dad and sister went to Gornik. I've still got a pennant somewhere that they bought over there.
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