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Title: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 25, 2019, 09:41:32 PM
Job done Villa well done. Dominated the game could have won by a lot more.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2019, 09:42:17 PM
Is it our year?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 25, 2019, 09:43:30 PM
Has it finished?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Scovilla on September 25, 2019, 09:44:30 PM
Well done. Next round at home would be nice.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 25, 2019, 09:44:36 PM
Anyone put their hand up for selection at weekend?

No idea how he did from general play but another goal and assist from Hourihane is hard to ignore.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on September 25, 2019, 09:45:32 PM
Important win for us, both players and fans.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: alanclare on September 25, 2019, 09:45:43 PM
Draw is soon this evening on TalkSport 2.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 25, 2019, 09:46:04 PM
Nice and important to get a win. Need to get another at the weekend.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 25, 2019, 09:46:17 PM
As I said in match thread

69 % possession
27 attempts at goal
3 goals
A win

Job well and truly done

Well done Deano and the team. Hope it's woke a few of the first teamers up for Saturday
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 25, 2019, 09:50:12 PM
Well done you Villa boys.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 25, 2019, 09:50:52 PM
Draw is soon this evening on TalkSport 2.
Do you have a stream for that?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: garyfouroaks on September 25, 2019, 09:51:33 PM
Dean Smith is a football genius.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 25, 2019, 09:51:45 PM
Conor for me has to come in. He scored one and set up the other. He offers something going forward.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on September 25, 2019, 09:51:52 PM
Draw is soon this evening on TalkSport 2.
Do you have a stream for that?
Would you like a pm?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: alanclare on September 25, 2019, 09:56:42 PM
Rochdale and ManUre on penalties.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on September 25, 2019, 09:58:00 PM
Hurray!  :)
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on September 25, 2019, 09:58:59 PM
Rochdale and ManUre on penalties.
0% Villa
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: serbentoflight on September 25, 2019, 10:07:25 PM
Potential next opponents?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 25, 2019, 10:09:37 PM
Pretty much a freebie passage once the Brighton team was announced. Was expecting them to make some changes like all teams but that was virtual youth team out there.

Still had to be beaten and aside from bit of a struggle after they scored was pretty comfortable. Hourihane must be really pushing for a start on Saturday now.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: alanclare on September 25, 2019, 10:10:15 PM
Potential next opponents?

ManUre are. Just beaten Rochdale.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on September 25, 2019, 10:11:40 PM
14982
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 25, 2019, 10:14:04 PM
14982


Isn't that the year Columbus discovered sumfin?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on September 25, 2019, 10:14:43 PM
Home to Wolves.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: alanclare on September 25, 2019, 10:15:03 PM
We’ve drawn to play Wolves at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: alanclare on September 25, 2019, 10:17:26 PM
Do season tickets holders get a free ticket for this one?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Luke8 on September 25, 2019, 10:24:44 PM
Think is with Hourihane, is he played tonight in the position that either McGinn or Grealish will occupy to Saturday - so for him to come in on Saturday it would require a rethink from Smith, which I just can’t see happening.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 25, 2019, 10:26:27 PM
Great result. Nice boost ahead of Saturday. Good tie next round too.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 25, 2019, 10:30:12 PM
Think is with Hourihane, is he played tonight in the position that either McGinn or Grealish will occupy to Saturday - so for him to come in on Saturday it would require a rethink from Smith, which I just can’t see happening.

If Smith was going to change formation it would have been tonight. Result aside, thats really worrying.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2019, 10:31:43 PM
Why?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on September 25, 2019, 10:32:41 PM
Conor for me has to come in. He scored one and set up the other. He offers something going forward.

On current form, aye.

Difficult to bench him after that performance.

Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on September 25, 2019, 10:33:23 PM
Think is with Hourihane, is he played tonight in the position that either McGinn or Grealish will occupy to Saturday - so for him to come in on Saturday it would require a rethink from Smith, which I just can’t see happening.

If Smith was going to change formation it would have been tonight. Result aside, thats really worrying.

That's an interesting take on a 3-1 win.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: brian green on September 25, 2019, 10:36:08 PM
A 3-1 away win.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 25, 2019, 10:42:12 PM
I want Conor to play because I like his song.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 25, 2019, 10:42:56 PM
I want Conor to play because I like his song.

Is that the one about his cock?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: algy on September 25, 2019, 10:44:39 PM
Is "Why didn't Smith change the formation?" the new "Why didn't Barry take the penalty?"
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on September 25, 2019, 10:44:54 PM
Targett and Jots were pretty good. Trez and Hause not so much. McGinn then Jack stand outs obviously.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2019, 10:46:04 PM
Stumbled across this, thought some may find it interesting

http://wearebrighton.com/albiondatabase/the-history-of-brighton-v-aston-villa/
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 25, 2019, 10:46:34 PM
I want Conor to play because I like his song.

Is that the one about his cock?

No I’m not on about Konsa.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: themossman on September 25, 2019, 10:47:07 PM
Jota always looks good in these games. Possible flat track bully?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 25, 2019, 11:00:40 PM
I want Conor to play because I like his song.

Is that the one about his cock?

No I’m not on about Konsa.

Perv.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Flin5tone on September 25, 2019, 11:02:52 PM
Hourihane needs to Start on Saturday!

Bring on the Wolves
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on September 25, 2019, 11:18:05 PM
5/2 was the price for Villa tonight before the teams were announced.

Gutted.

Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on September 25, 2019, 11:19:17 PM
Think is with Hourihane, is he played tonight in the position that either McGinn or Grealish will occupy to Saturday - so for him to come in on Saturday it would require a rethink from Smith, which I just can’t see happening.

If we were to go to two defensive midfielders, then I would like to McGinn potentially playing in front of them and given somewhat of a free role with Grealish pushed further up.  I think that role would probably suit Hourihane as well, but a I only really see him as an impact sub at the moment.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on September 25, 2019, 11:21:15 PM
I want Conor to play because I like his song.

Is that the one about his cock?

No I’m not on about Konsa.

Perv.

That's made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on September 25, 2019, 11:24:05 PM
From the brief highlights, Keinan looked full of intent. I'd like to see him up front with Wesley at some point as I think he'd create alot of goals for Wes. But what do I know.

Good win tonight.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 25, 2019, 11:27:07 PM
Stumbled across this, thought some may find it interesting

http://wearebrighton.com/albiondatabase/the-history-of-brighton-v-aston-villa/

I couldn't make it past the implicit claim that the Charity Shield was more significant than the League. Daft sausages.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 25, 2019, 11:28:18 PM
However much you might care or not care about this competition I think a win tonight was very important to boost our confidence, especially as the win came against another Premier League club.

Do we get a bye if Wolves go bust before the next round?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2019, 11:29:32 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/carabao-cup/11819534/brighton-1-3-aston-villa)
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Vegas on September 25, 2019, 11:30:03 PM
Just heading out ofBrighton now. Quite literally men against boys. We totally dominated midfield in a way I can’t quite remember seeing in 35 yrs of watching Villa. Thought Luiz, Hourihane, McGinn (fist half) and Jack (2nd) were in complete control - which you’d hope they’d be.

Konsa was good, Hause pretty good I thought although didn’t have a good view of their goal.

Davis was the worry - against a youth team he got loads of ball to feet, and was kind of in the game,  but just didn’t have much end product. Also Trez slightly flattered to deceive.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on September 25, 2019, 11:34:20 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/carabao-cup/11819534/brighton-1-3-aston-villa)
Thank you
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on September 25, 2019, 11:39:39 PM
Is it our year?

Yes! :)
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on September 25, 2019, 11:42:13 PM
Nice to go to an evening match and be home by 1015. Shame we couldn’t draw Crawley next.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on September 25, 2019, 11:49:19 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/carabao-cup/11819534/brighton-1-3-aston-villa)
Thank you
And from me
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on September 25, 2019, 11:53:15 PM
Targett and Jots were pretty good. Trez and Hause not so much. McGinn then Jack stand outs obviously.
Targett was pants I thought in the first half. Redeemed himself in the second half, albeit more for his getting down the line rather than defending. Trez was OK, but end product lacking. Elmo was my MoM.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 26, 2019, 12:06:26 AM
Why?

4 points from 6 league games using that formation.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 26, 2019, 01:45:32 AM
Davis looked sharp on that clip.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on September 26, 2019, 06:52:46 AM
I would have been disappointed if we could not beat a side containing half their youth team

Onwards and upwards, looking forward to see how we go against a tough Burnley team.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on September 26, 2019, 07:03:49 AM
Listened to the WM commentary for the first time in god knows how long and saw the goals on SKy as they went in. It all sounded easy enough apart from the brief scare for their goal.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on September 26, 2019, 07:21:50 AM
Well done Villa boys! Some of our great managers (Saunders, Atkinson, Little) never minded a cup run in this competition. Looking forward to seeing how far Deano can go. UTV!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on September 26, 2019, 08:37:48 AM
Stumbled across this, thought some may find it interesting

http://wearebrighton.com/albiondatabase/the-history-of-brighton-v-aston-villa/
I found it interesting. I only like hearing that Champions of whatever song when it’s sung to so-called ‘bigger’ clubs. Not very classy to the likes of Brighton.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 26, 2019, 09:22:54 AM
Davis looked sharp on that clip.

Did brilliantly for Hourihanes goal, that was Shane Duffy he turned too not some inexperienced kid. I'd like to see Davis being given more of a chance in the league, can bring our midfielders into the play.

Is Targett sufficiently up to speed yet to take Taylor's spot?
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 26, 2019, 09:32:26 AM
Stumbled across this, thought some may find it interesting

http://wearebrighton.com/albiondatabase/the-history-of-brighton-v-aston-villa/

I couldn't make it past the implicit claim that the Charity Shield was more significant than the League. Daft sausages.


It is funny the things you remember that are associated with Villa games. Our 1980 1-0 defeat to Brighton mentioned in that article was on the day I was first told I had to wear glasses as a kid. I remember being far from chuffed all round.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on September 26, 2019, 09:44:11 AM
Stumbled across this, thought some may find it interesting

http://wearebrighton.com/albiondatabase/the-history-of-brighton-v-aston-villa/

I couldn't make it past the implicit claim that the Charity Shield was more significant than the League. Daft sausages.


It is funny the things you remember that are associated with Villa games. Our 1980 1-0 defeat to Brighton mentioned in that article was on the day I was first told I had to wear glasses as a kid. I remember being far from chuffed all round.

We played them at VP a couple of months before, in October, beat them 4-1 and went top of the table for the first time in years
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 26, 2019, 09:59:24 AM
Extended highlights - plenty of chances. Davies looked wasteful
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 26, 2019, 10:34:05 AM
Davis looked far more lively and useful than Wesley.  Also Targett probably had more attempts on goal in that game than Taylor has had in his entire career.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: russon on September 26, 2019, 11:05:51 AM
My take for what it’s worth https://villa398.blogspot.com/

They don’t serve large enough portions of humble pie up here!
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 26, 2019, 11:35:33 AM
Targett was pants I thought in the first half. Redeemed himself in the second half, albeit more for his getting down the line rather than defending.

From the highlights he did swing in a lovely ball into the box but your comments about his defending are a concern.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on September 26, 2019, 01:10:36 PM
Targett was pants I thought in the first half. Redeemed himself in the second half, albeit more for his getting down the line rather than defending.

From the highlights he did swing in a lovely ball into the box but your comments about his defending are a concern.

He got done once in the first half but was generally ok and a good attacking thread. It's difficult to go overboard due to the strength of the oppo.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 26, 2019, 01:20:26 PM
From the extended highlights we really should have scored more goals and we looked really wasteful.

Really cannot make up my mind about Trez - gets into decent positions but then either piss weak attempt at goal or a poor cross - maybe a goal will settle him down but at present I cannot see justification for being a starter.

Jota is a must against the static 442 from Burnley
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: mallo on September 26, 2019, 01:26:17 PM
I'd be tempted to put Davis on against Burnley if we're chasing the game - he causes players to come out of position and passes well. Deserved a goal - they will come.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on September 26, 2019, 02:40:06 PM
Good win for the boy's great day out by the seaside this could be our year still knackered from yesterday's exertions but in the words of a certain someone we go again Saturday bring on Burnley.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 26, 2019, 03:04:54 PM
Just heading out ofBrighton now. Quite literally men against boys. We totally dominated midfield in a way I can’t quite remember seeing in 35 yrs of watching Villa. Thought Luiz, Hourihane, McGinn (fist half) and Jack (2nd) were in complete control - which you’d hope they’d be.

Konsa was good, Hause pretty good I thought although didn’t have a good view of their goal.

Davis was the worry - against a youth team he got loads of ball to feet, and was kind of in the game,  but just didn’t have much end product. Also Trez slightly flattered to deceive.

Wasn't at the game, but David did outmuscle their full band and complete the run and pass into the box that led to our second goal.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: King Cropley on September 26, 2019, 07:00:32 PM
Just heading out ofBrighton now. Quite literally men against boys. We totally dominated midfield in a way I can’t quite remember seeing in 35 yrs of watching Villa. Thought Luiz, Hourihane, McGinn (fist half) and Jack (2nd) were in complete control - which you’d hope they’d be.

Konsa was good, Hause pretty good I thought although didn’t have a good view of their goal.

Davis was the worry - against a youth team he got loads of ball to feet, and was kind of in the game,  but just didn’t have much end product. Also Trez slightly flattered to deceive.
                                                                      Pretty much how I saw it.....bit bemused about the Hourihane love-in....as much as I like him, he did as much as I'd expect against poor opposition. SJM was outstanding, ran the show, but again, as you'd expect.....
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on September 26, 2019, 07:59:11 PM
I went last night it was quite frankly all a bit meh as Brighton quite frankly couldn’t wait to get it out of the way. We did what we needed to, job done and onto Wolves.
Title: Re: Brighton 1-3 Aston Villa Post Match Thread
Post by: Dogtanian on September 27, 2019, 05:29:42 AM
I'd be tempted to put Davis on against Burnley if we're chasing the game - he causes players to come out of position and passes well. Deserved a goal - they will come.

I thought Davis did well.  I remember thinking mid-game that we don’t really seem to provide him with many clear-cut opportunities, similar to how we are with Wesley, and so both suffer.  They both spend a lot of time coming deep or to the wings to pick up the ball and get involved in play rather than having it delivered into them.  They then get criticised for not being in the box when they’re our only striker.
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