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Title: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2019, 09:33:46 PM
As long as we don't Villa it up, who would you like in the next round and home or away?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Dave P on September 25, 2019, 09:37:47 PM
Oxford at home please.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Lsvilla on September 25, 2019, 09:38:51 PM
Rochdale please
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: manic-road on September 25, 2019, 09:40:21 PM
Colchester at home.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Dave P on September 25, 2019, 09:40:45 PM
My prediction is Southampton away
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Dave P on September 25, 2019, 09:42:57 PM
Last 16 and we could play Crawley, Colchester, Oxford, Sunderland and potentially Burton or Rochdale.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2019, 09:44:27 PM
Reading or Rochdale at home would be nice.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: remy on September 25, 2019, 09:45:30 PM
Manure at home
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: FrankyH on September 25, 2019, 09:46:39 PM
If the stars align and we do miraculously get a home draw , is it free to season ticket holders ?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Legion on September 25, 2019, 09:47:28 PM
We'll probably end up with Chelsea, Liverpool or Man City. EASY!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Colhint on September 25, 2019, 09:48:17 PM
Oxford at home please.

this
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 25, 2019, 09:51:59 PM
Burton at home.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 25, 2019, 10:00:06 PM
We owe Burton, so yes them please
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: pooligan on September 25, 2019, 10:01:55 PM
Burton at home please
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 25, 2019, 10:09:10 PM
Home.

Dog heads.
Manure.
Burton.

Don’t care really.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Steve67 on September 25, 2019, 10:10:21 PM
Liverpool versus Man City would be nice!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: murfee on September 25, 2019, 10:12:25 PM
sunderland please
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 25, 2019, 10:14:17 PM
Home to Wolves!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: manic-road on September 25, 2019, 10:14:48 PM
At least we are at home.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Villa Lew on September 25, 2019, 10:15:25 PM
Just had to be!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: pooligan on September 25, 2019, 10:15:40 PM
Dogheads at home it is
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 25, 2019, 10:15:45 PM
They put a second string team out tonight. Will be bogged down with europa still aswell.

Should be a very good crowd as long as ticket prices are sensible.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Axl Rose on September 25, 2019, 10:16:11 PM
It'll be a difficult game as they'll have won the world cup and opened a megastore on Saturn by then.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2019, 10:17:26 PM
Last time we played them at home in the league cup we went on to win it. We'll twat the gimps.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 25, 2019, 10:17:47 PM
Liverpool/Arsenal

Chelsea/Man. United.

Two big hitters going out next round so we need to take this competition very seriously I'd suggest. If only to have the right to lose to Man. City in the final.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 25, 2019, 10:18:01 PM
chelsea v man utd
liverpool v aresenal


could be our year
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on September 25, 2019, 10:18:10 PM
It'll be a difficult game as they'll have won the world cup and opened a megastore on Saturn by then.

Nah, they're stranded at Malaga waiting for a bailout
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Steve67 on September 25, 2019, 10:18:19 PM
At least it's at home. Chelsea v Man Utd, nice.  Everton V Watford, Man City v Saints, Liverpool v Arsenal.  Some cracking games.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: phantom limb on September 25, 2019, 10:18:22 PM
This could be interesting
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 25, 2019, 10:18:38 PM
Two lower league teams in the Quarter-Final and at least three of Man City, Man U, Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham out. Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 25, 2019, 10:19:44 PM
Right. Time to bury a couple of years when they've suffered serious delusions as to where there are in the Midlands pecking order.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Luke8 on September 25, 2019, 10:20:09 PM
That draw has open the competition up quite nicely. Two of Crawley, Oxford, Sunderland or Colchester will be in the following round. Two of Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Man United out.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: pooligan on September 25, 2019, 10:20:38 PM
Chelsea v Man Utd.Liverpool v Arse Man City v Saints and Everton v Watford some tasty games there
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Villa Lew on September 25, 2019, 10:21:40 PM
Chelsea have drawn United and Liverpool Arsenal, so we we won't be on the box.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round
Post by: Villa Lew on September 25, 2019, 10:22:55 PM
Last time we played them at home in the league cup we went on to win it. We'll twat the gimps.
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Remember that match well, Tommy Johnson got the winner.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: john e on September 25, 2019, 10:24:46 PM
win this cup and stay up would be a nice second season for Smith before the inevitable world domination
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 25, 2019, 10:24:54 PM
Wolves are at Newcastle the previous Sunday so we will likely be a Wednesday game again. No great loss as Liverpool probably will be too and we play them the following Saturday.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Villafirst on September 25, 2019, 10:27:59 PM
Can see us winning 4-1 like last time!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: London Villan on September 25, 2019, 10:28:04 PM
They’ll have no players left fit by the time we play them.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 25, 2019, 10:40:10 PM
Perfect. Couldn't have wished for a better draw. A bit of excitement, local derby, true, not rivals but a full Villa Park. I was there when Cruyff played for Barcelona, tempted to return for this one. Another great European night under the floodlights. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 25, 2019, 10:40:23 PM
Needless to say our oh so humble neighbours are already giving it large over there.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: papa lazarou on September 25, 2019, 10:46:20 PM
Needless to say our oh so humble neighbours are already giving it large over there.
Am they saying they'm better than we?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2019, 10:49:42 PM
Needless to say our oh so humble neighbours are already giving it large over there.
Am they saying they'm better than we?

Probably saying the same kind of things we are.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on September 25, 2019, 10:50:58 PM
Needless to say our oh so humble neighbours are already giving it large over there.
Am they saying they'm better than we?

Theym probably saying that no Vile player would get into their team and that Vile always talk about 1982.  Theym like stuck records.  Theym said it enough times they probably believe it.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 25, 2019, 10:51:21 PM
I think they'll be
Thurs (A) Bratislava
Sun (A) Newcastle
Weds play us
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Villafirst on September 25, 2019, 11:00:10 PM
They'll use tiredness as an excuse when they get beaten at VP. Bunch of deluded wankers!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 25, 2019, 11:04:26 PM
I don't care what their excuse is so long as we beat them!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on September 25, 2019, 11:14:13 PM
Will it be free for season ticket holders?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on September 25, 2019, 11:14:50 PM
They’re getting their excuses in already - “4 games in 10 days. Wolves will just play the kids. Villa will beat us in the cup but we’ll twat them in the league etc”.

They’ve changed their tune from earlier this year when they were saying Villa would never finish above Wolves ever again and that they’ll be in the Champions League in 2 years.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: pooligan on September 26, 2019, 12:37:43 AM
The last time we played the dogheads in the cup was January 10th 1996 at Villa Park.A Tommy Johnson goal was enough to beat them and we went on to beat Leeds in the final the last time we won the cup A omen maybe
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 26, 2019, 12:49:24 AM
We've also never lost to them in the competition, winning four games and drawing one.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Kimaster1976 on September 26, 2019, 06:26:27 AM
Can someone remind me what they do about tickets for cup games, open to season tickets first, then members etc. Still only one ticket sale per member or are the rules more relaxed?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: sid1964 on September 26, 2019, 06:55:03 AM
So with their fixtures prior to playing us, we will have no excuses if we do not beat them?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: alanclare on September 26, 2019, 08:51:55 AM
As long as we don't Villa it up, who would you like in the next round and home or away?

No one chose Wolves at home or away.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Damo70 on September 26, 2019, 09:22:00 AM
As long as we don't Villa it up, who would you like in the next round and home or away?

No one chose Wolves at home or away.


The way their fans have been talking we expected them to have joined a European Super League by now.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Three Spires Villa on September 26, 2019, 09:56:37 AM
Really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on September 26, 2019, 10:13:55 AM
As long as we don't Villa it up, who would you like in the next round and home or away?

No one chose Wolves at home or away.


The way their fans have been talking we expected them to have joined a European Super League by now.

However - In the real world, there seems to be a mad scramble of tickets for their "cup final".
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: langleylions on September 26, 2019, 10:35:03 AM
dont forget we will have to give them the holte end as well with them being far bigger than us lol  seriously tho they say we are deluded ffs
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Chipsticks on September 26, 2019, 10:48:35 AM
They’re getting their excuses in already - “4 games in 10 days. Wolves will just play the kids. Villa will beat us in the cup but we’ll twat them in the league etc”.

They’ve changed their tune from earlier this year when they were saying Villa would never finish above Wolves ever again and that they’ll be in the Champions League in 2 years.

Yep realistically I'm confident about this - with their fixture congestion I can't see them playing close to a full team, whereas I'm sure Smith will see this as a chance to inject some momentum in the team, with a win at a packed VP.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on September 26, 2019, 10:53:18 AM
They think we're taking it seriously because we fielded a "strong side" last night.  Since when does making 9 changes from Sunday's game constitute fielding a strong side?  It's called having a strong squad, something Wolves failed to build during the transfer window because their owners wouldn't back the manager.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 26, 2019, 02:05:42 PM
Steve Bruce destroyed Nuno’s Galácticos 4-1. I’m looking forward to us Deano’s 2019 version doing at least the same. Can  we go get Thor back to dribble past them all and smash one in at the end?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: darren woolley on September 26, 2019, 03:36:15 PM
Bring on the dogheads I'm looking forward to this tie can't wait for it.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: CJ on September 26, 2019, 03:55:07 PM
Will it be free for season ticket holders?

Yep - one of the benefits of a ST - first home cup game free of charge
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Bad English on September 26, 2019, 04:20:20 PM
This is a great tie: not only will we swat Wulfrunian Dingleona aside on our march to Wemberley, but there will be a lot less noise on Social Media™ as the dribbling attention-seekers have to shut the fuck up a bit.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Ads on September 26, 2019, 04:47:14 PM
Is it possible to upgrade a child's season ticket to an adult ticket?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Legion on September 26, 2019, 04:49:50 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Dogtanian on September 26, 2019, 06:17:27 PM
Hope this sells out and is a good atmosphere, looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Pete3206 on September 26, 2019, 07:40:10 PM
30,000 season ticket holders getting in for no cost? Every chance of a sell out.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: AV82EC on September 26, 2019, 08:05:04 PM
Less tickets for Claret members though as Wolves will get the larger 5-6000 allocation won’t they?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: LukeJames on September 26, 2019, 08:10:09 PM
They'll be falling over themselves for tickets, still the only local 'rivals' in my time that have failed to sell an allocation out at Villa Park. Joke club.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Dogtanian on September 26, 2019, 08:11:05 PM
Less tickets for Claret members though as Wolves will get the larger 5-6000 allocation won’t they?

I believe EFL rules allow them to request 10% of the available tickets.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on September 26, 2019, 08:44:12 PM
Less tickets for Claret members though as Wolves will get the larger 5-6000 allocation won’t they?

I believe EFL rules allow them to request 10% of the available tickets.

That will mean season ticket holders having to be relocated and even less matchday tickets available.  Can't see what we can do about it though, if they ask for the extra tickets.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Ads on September 26, 2019, 08:46:17 PM
Less tickets for Claret members though as Wolves will get the larger 5-6000 allocation won’t they?

Doubt WMP will let them have more than the normal.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Ads on September 26, 2019, 09:00:20 PM
They've got Bratislava away on the 24th and Newcastle away on the 27th, a Sunday, before they play us. Arsenal away is their next game on 2nd November.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 26, 2019, 09:03:57 PM
Rules for tickets

23.1 Immediately after the draw is known the two Clubs concerned must mutually agree the prices. All questions in dispute must be immediately referred to the Management Committee for settlement.

23.2 In all Cup Competition matches, the Visiting Club shall have the right to claim 10 per cent of all tickets reserved or otherwise sold in advance (any variation to that figure shall be subject to the consent of the Management Committee) and on the following conditions:

23.2.1 the request for tickets shall be made within three days of the draw, with the exception of the First Round where such request should be made no later than 14 days before the date of the match;

23.2.2 the admission prices to be charged to supporters of a Visiting Club shall not be higher than those charged to the supporters of the Home Club for comparable accommodation and in particular concessionary rates offered to senior citizens and junior supporters shall apply equally to both sets of supporters;

23.2.3 unless otherwise mutually agreed in writing, all tickets shall be on a sale or return basis; and

23.2.4 at every home match, a minimum of 10 per cent of the total disabled spectator accommodation must be made available to disabled supporters of the Visiting Club.

23.3 A Visiting Club shall be entitled to a minimum of 50 Complimentary Stand Tickets.

23.4 A Visiting Club shall also be entitled to one third of the seats usually reserved and known as the ‘Home and Visiting Directors' Seats’ up to a maximum of 24 seats.

23.5 Complimentary tickets issued by the Home Club, other than those required pursuant to Rule 23.4 and any required to be supplied to Sponsors under any agreement entered into by The League, but including those supplied to the Visiting Club pursuant to Rule 23.3, in excess of 250 must be accounted for at the appropriate rate.

23.6 Where the Home Club issues season tickets which allow holders of such tickets:

23.6.1 free admission to a match in the Competition then each season ticket holder that attends is treated as having bought a ticket at the same price as that allocated to that seat for that match; or

23.6.2 discounted admission to a match in the Competition then in calculating the amount to be included as Gross Receipts of the match any discount from the admission price shall be excluded.

23.7 Where the Home Club admits any person to the ground as part of its hospitality arrangements or to an executive box and there is no separate charge for admission, each person is treated as having bought a ticket at the highest price payable for a general admission ticket for that match.

23.8 All questions in dispute shall immediately be referred to The League for settlement.

23.9 All Clubs (and clubs) shall comply with the requirements of The League in respect of the sale of tickets to the final tie of the Competition. Failure to do so will constitute misconduct. Without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing, any entitlement to a share in the proceeds of such final tie may be reduced to reflect any financial penalty imposed for a breach of this Rule.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 26, 2019, 09:09:47 PM
After the next international break they have a run of

19/10 Saints H
24/10 Bratislava A
27/10 Newcastle A
30/10 Us A
2/11 Arsenal A
7/11 Bratislava H
10/11 Us H
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 26, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
As an aside it's amused me that i've seen a number of them on Twitter etc saying we fielded a strong side against Brighton. I really don't think they realise it was mainly our second string, then again they probably have no concept of squad depth.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 26, 2019, 09:22:28 PM
The looked at our side against Brighton and immediately said none of them would get into their starting XI.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Pete3206 on September 26, 2019, 09:23:58 PM
#Levels
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Damo70 on September 27, 2019, 01:55:18 PM
Less tickets for Claret members though as Wolves will get the larger 5-6000 allocation won’t they?

I believe EFL rules allow them to request 10% of the available tickets.

Back in the eighties when crowds were low Small Heath, Albion and Wolves at least used to fill the away end of the lower North stand terrace for league and cup. Coventry were the exception amongst the West Midlands clubs in that respect. They only started bringing more after winning the FA Cup in 1987 and having a couple of decent league seasons by their standards. They started 'giving it the big un' at Villa Park for a while. It didn't last.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Exeter 77 on September 27, 2019, 02:47:13 PM
The Coventry fans who tried to stage a sit in on the centre spot when Cyrille Regis scored after 12 seconds in the last game of 1991/92 were particularly funny.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Dazvillain on October 01, 2019, 10:53:03 AM
Club just announced this is free for ST holders !
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 01, 2019, 10:57:49 AM
Nice move. Will be 40k in here no problem.

Wolves get the Upper North I think aswell.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: chrisw1 on October 01, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
How will they work that with North stand season ticket holders?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on October 01, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
I’d be surprised if they put Away fans in the Upper North above our fans, bearing in mind what happened last time we tried that.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 01, 2019, 03:08:06 PM
Club just announced this is free for ST holders !
Brilliant gesture but season ticket holders don't need to do anything with their ticket, just turn up on the night, meaning their seat can't be resold. Not every season ticket holder is going to attend which means we'll end up with empty seats that could have been sold to other people.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 01, 2019, 03:31:43 PM
No real alternative so there may be empty seats to watch a reserve game
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: UK Redsox on October 01, 2019, 04:12:21 PM
Club just announced this is free for ST holders !

I thought that the first home cup game was free anyway
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: AV82EC on October 01, 2019, 04:23:13 PM
Club just announced this is free for ST holders !

I thought that the first home cup game was free anyway

It is this was just confirming it.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: UK Redsox on October 01, 2019, 04:26:21 PM
By automatically adding the game to our cards, there’s going to be empty seats scattered all over the place.

Surely it would be better if we had to opt in, especially as the club will have to relocate some ST holders from areas allocated to Wolves.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: AV82EC on October 01, 2019, 04:31:15 PM
Looks like Wolves only get their usual allocation. I’d imagine there may be a window to sell your seat if you can’t go or want to upgrade a child’s seat to an adult. 🤷🏼‍♂️
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 01, 2019, 04:36:21 PM
The club have tweeted that season ticket holders in the North Stand will need to relocate and that Wolves have taken their full allocation.

Confirmed now they've got all of the North Stand, between 6k and 7k.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on October 01, 2019, 04:46:39 PM
The club have tweeted that season ticket holders in the North Stand will need to relocate and that Wolves have taken their full allocation.

Confirmed now they've got all of the North Stand, between 6k and 7k.

That is ridiculous - They're only entitled to just over 4k.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: chrisw1 on October 01, 2019, 05:04:18 PM
Iy would make more sense to just extend block by block in the DE stand to the minimum amount, but I guess the issue is segregation?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: LeeB on October 01, 2019, 05:28:31 PM
The club have tweeted that season ticket holders in the North Stand will need to relocate and that Wolves have taken their full allocation.

Confirmed now they've got all of the North Stand, between 6k and 7k.
Oh bloody marvellous, mine and my pals seats already look on their last legs, and now we have Britain's fattest supporter base sitting in there.

Every we time I saw Wulvz fans during the summer they were morbidly obese, they'll need a 60k stadium just to get 40k of their fans.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 01, 2019, 05:29:28 PM
Iy would make more sense to just extend block by block in the DE stand to the minimum amount, but I guess the issue is segregation?
This would have made a lot more sense and would have involved only moving around 1200 of our fans whereas now they're moving 7k of us. If they've got 6k-7k when they're actually only entitled to 4.2k, a lot of people will be asking why.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: hilts_coolerking on October 01, 2019, 05:48:18 PM
Oh bloody marvellous, mine and my pals seats already look on their last legs, and now we have Britain's fattest supporter base sitting in there.

Every we time I saw Wulvz fans during the summer they were morbidly obese, they'll need a 60k stadium just to get 40k of their fans.
As an enthusiastic consumer of junk food I shouldn't laugh at this.  But I am.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2019, 05:59:18 PM
The club have tweeted that season ticket holders in the North Stand will need to relocate and that Wolves have taken their full allocation.

Confirmed now they've got all of the North Stand, between 6k and 7k.

I've no problem with this so long as we are afforded the same allocation when we get a local side in the cup by WMP.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on October 01, 2019, 06:39:54 PM
The club have tweeted that season ticket holders in the North Stand will need to relocate and that Wolves have taken their full allocation.

Confirmed now they've got all of the North Stand, between 6k and 7k.

I've no problem with this so long as we are afforded the same allocation when we get a local side in the cup by WMP.

That will never happen because the grounds are too small.

They've given them the entire stand because of the problems WBA caused throwing things down onto home fans.  I would just sheet the seats of the lower tier from the front, moving back until only 4,200 seats are available. 
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: chrisw1 on October 01, 2019, 07:40:48 PM
That's the kind of pettiness I can get on board with.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on October 01, 2019, 07:46:19 PM
That's the kind of pettiness I can get on board with.

It's not petty - Away fans spur their team on, the less away fans the better as far as we're concerned.

Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: LukeJames on October 01, 2019, 07:50:36 PM
Im all in favour of just throwing the netting over the wet rags when theyve taken there seats.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 01, 2019, 09:18:47 PM
Iy would make more sense to just extend block by block in the DE stand to the minimum amount, but I guess the issue is segregation?
This would definitely be preferable but segregation is cartainly the problem. Giving them the whole North gives them a huge boost. Thing is it's easily resolved. We know what 10% of our capacity is so why not have a system where the away section in Doug Ellis can be extended. Fitting some extra roller shutters in the upper and lower concourses would be a cheap option.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Flin5tone on October 01, 2019, 09:32:31 PM
Why on earth are we giving them more than we need to?

I undertand the incidents with WBA but this is Wolves in the early stages of the Cup, I doubt tensions will be high.

Should have gave the usual Away End plus lower North if anything
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Louzie0 on October 01, 2019, 09:44:18 PM
After the next international break they have a run of

19/10 Saints H
24/10 Bratislava A
27/10 Newcastle A
30/10 Us A
2/11 Arsenal A
7/11 Bratislava H
10/11 Us H

Do they have an especially big squad?
Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 01, 2019, 09:56:23 PM
After the next international break they have a run of

19/10 Saints H
24/10 Bratislava A
27/10 Newcastle A
30/10 Us A
2/11 Arsenal A
7/11 Bratislava H
10/11 Us H

Do they have an especially big squad?
Asking for a friend.
If not they're going to need one to fulfil their plans of world domination by next season.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on October 01, 2019, 10:20:27 PM
Why on earth are we giving them more than we need to?

I undertand the incidents with WBA but this is Wolves in the early stages of the Cup, I doubt tensions will be high.

Should have gave the usual Away End plus lower North if anything

Not sure about that tbh
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on October 01, 2019, 10:34:31 PM
From Wolves forum:

Why hell we getting 7k away tickets?

We only sold 19k home tickets in the last round
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Villafirst on October 01, 2019, 10:51:46 PM
Wolves big club mentality! They shouldn't be getting 7k tickets. Apparently they will occupy the North Stand.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: chrisw1 on October 02, 2019, 09:28:53 AM
Wolves fans have been absolutely desperate to get one over on us and prove they are the chosen ones.  I'd be surprised if they don't sell out.

My spidey senses tell me it may get a bit tastey.

(last bit is a joke btw.  Think it will be a lively atmosphere and that's all)
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: in exile on October 02, 2019, 12:08:09 PM
Wolves big club mentality! They shouldn't be getting 7k tickets. Apparently they will occupy the North Stand.

I'm sure they only get 10% of the capacity, so what's that...4,200ish?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: UK Redsox on October 02, 2019, 01:26:51 PM
Is this game definitely on Wed 30th ?

The BBC and EFL sites both have the game listed as Tue 29th and Pravda doesn't list the game at all

The only place I can see 30th listed is the Tweet from avfcsupport about Season Card access


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Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Drummond on October 02, 2019, 01:36:11 PM

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This on the EFL Carabao Cup page...
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: in exile on October 02, 2019, 01:46:20 PM
It's 100% on the Wednesday.
Villa confirmed it yesterday on Twitter after being asked
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Axl Rose on October 02, 2019, 01:48:16 PM
Have they got 7000 fans?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Richard on October 02, 2019, 02:02:53 PM
So if true we are denying more of our non season ticket holders the chance to go, as well as moving a lot of people to other parts of the ground together with the inevitable road closures and access issues on that side of the ground?

Utter madness if true but I'll wait for official confirmation rather than a bloody tweet.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: UK Redsox on October 02, 2019, 02:21:41 PM
It's 100% on the Wednesday.
Villa confirmed it yesterday on Twitter after being asked

Beeb website has just updated as well
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 02, 2019, 03:45:52 PM
So if true we are denying more of our non season ticket holders the chance to go, as well as moving a lot of people to other parts of the ground together with the inevitable road closures and access issues on that side of the ground?

Utter madness if true but I'll wait for official confirmation rather than a bloody tweet.
The club tweeted it along with information about what people  with season tickets in the North stand should do. Seems pretty official.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: luke95 on October 02, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
So if true we are denying more of our non season ticket holders the chance to go, as well as moving a lot of people to other parts of the ground together with the inevitable road closures and access issues on that side of the ground?

Utter madness if true but I'll wait for official confirmation rather than a bloody tweet.
The club tweeted it along with information about what people  with season tickets in the North stand should do. Seems pretty official.
To be fair , I too have only seen a tweet/FB update saying all season ticket holders need to is turn up on the night their cards are activated. Nothing about North stand having to relocate.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 02, 2019, 07:49:17 PM
So if true we are denying more of our non season ticket holders the chance to go, as well as moving a lot of people to other parts of the ground together with the inevitable road closures and access issues on that side of the ground?

Utter madness if true but I'll wait for official confirmation rather than a bloody tweet.
The club tweeted it along with information about what people  with season tickets in the North stand should do. Seems pretty official.
To be fair , I too have only seen a tweet/FB update saying all season ticket holders need to is turn up on the night their cards are activated. Nothing about North stand having to relocate.
It's happening 100%. Wolves have been given the whole North Stand.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Comrade Blitz on October 02, 2019, 07:56:35 PM
Have they got 7000 fans?

They seem to have 7,000 Incels on Twitter who troll the Villa hashtag on a daily basis
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on October 02, 2019, 08:14:55 PM
The tweet also states that NS season ticket holders will be notified in due course what they need to do for wolves. I guess the majority will go where the away fans normally sit.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Richard on October 03, 2019, 08:01:29 AM
Ok so it’s happening but does anyone know why ?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: St AustellAVFC on October 03, 2019, 08:08:04 AM
What’s likelihood of this being on the box? I know there’s some decent games in this round but can sky show more than one game per night- maybe red button? They showed the penalty shootout at OT live after they had already had a live game on that night.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 03, 2019, 08:51:13 AM
Not sure. They would like to show both the Chelsea/Man U and Liverpool/Arsenal games I'm sure, but with three of those clubs playing the previous Sunday it seems likely that both will have to be on the Wednesday, scuppering said plans.

I don't think they have confirmed the TV games yet, possibly they were waiting for confirmation that Liverpool weren't going to be kicked out.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Axl Rose on October 03, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
What a rubbish idea to give them the whole stand. I don't reckon they'll even fill it.

Shove the fuckers in a dark corner with a restricted view and their stupid masks.

#levels my arse
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 03, 2019, 09:56:38 AM
Seems Bananas giving that many tickets to our opponents when we don’t need to , as has been stated elsewhere on here if we had to give 4000 we could have given extra blocks in the Doug Ellis. This ranks with when we played Man Utd in the cup and gave them North Stand Lower and Doug Ellis lower . Absolutely Bananas 🍌
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 03, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Perhaps, for segregation purposes, it is too problematic to divide other stands in such a way.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: UK Redsox on October 03, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Perhaps, for segregation purposes, it is too problematic to divide other stands in such a way.

I'm sure that this is the logical answer but Villa do seem to have a way of over-complicating things when dealing with ticketing
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: artvandelay on October 03, 2019, 10:52:18 AM
If you look at Stu Bladen (Villa WMP or some such) on twitter, he states that Wolves aren't getting 7k. Seems like the stand is being given to them but not 7k seats in it...
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: AV82EC on October 03, 2019, 11:35:48 AM
How many seats in the Upper? Maybe they’ll get that and they’ll close the lower?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 03, 2019, 10:17:29 PM
How many seats in the Upper? Maybe they’ll get that and they’ll close the lower?
I could live with that. At least that would reduce the impact they can have on the game. They should at least be made to sell out the upper before they get any tickets in the lower.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Pete3206 on October 03, 2019, 11:02:23 PM
Not sure. They would like to show both the Chelsea/Man U and Liverpool/Arsenal games I'm sure, but with three of those clubs playing the previous Sunday it seems likely that both will have to be on the Wednesday, scuppering said plans.

I don't think they have confirmed the TV games yet, possibly they were waiting for confirmation that Liverpool weren't going to be kicked out.

Liverpool stiffs vs Arsenal stiffs is the predictable Sky pick for the Wednesday.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on October 03, 2019, 11:12:15 PM
At £10 a ticket, it seems such a waste to have 3000 empty seats.  It's a game that would clearly sell out full capacity.

Somehow Villa need to come up with a flexible system that has minimum impact in order to accommodate away cup allocations and also to utilise seats on occasions when normal away allocations are not sold out.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 03, 2019, 11:19:07 PM
Not sure. They would like to show both the Chelsea/Man U and Liverpool/Arsenal games I'm sure, but with three of those clubs playing the previous Sunday it seems likely that both will have to be on the Wednesday, scuppering said plans.

I don't think they have confirmed the TV games yet, possibly they were waiting for confirmation that Liverpool weren't going to be kicked out.

Liverpool stiffs vs Arsenal stiffs is the predictable Sky pick for the Wednesday.

Seems like they are showing that AND Man U v Chelsea on the Wednesday, with no game Tuesday. The fanboy twats. Burton v Leicester is a much better cup tie.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: sid1964 on October 04, 2019, 07:03:28 AM
The TV will generally show the teams that get the higher viewing figures, that is why every FA cup game featuring Man Utd is shown on the telly.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 04, 2019, 07:11:49 AM
At £10 a ticket, it seems such a waste to have 3000 empty seats.  It's a game that would clearly sell out full capacity.

Somehow Villa need to come up with a flexible system that has minimum impact in order to accommodate away cup allocations and also to utilise seats on occasions when normal away allocations are not sold out.
I posted earlier about this. Theres a simple solution used in plenty of grounds. We know what 10% of our stadium is. All they need to do is install roller shutters further along the concourses in the DE stand to accomodate an extra 1000 seats. Inside the ground a few empty rows of seats with netting on as a buffer zone. Add a few more stewards to control it. It really is that simple. As for the upcoming Wolves  game i'm hearing a lot of those who normally create a great atmosphere next to the away section in the lower north kicking off about it. Another simple solution here. Why don't all those affected just get their seats in the lower Doug?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 04, 2019, 08:15:45 AM
At £10 a ticket, it seems such a waste to have 3000 empty seats.  It's a game that would clearly sell out full capacity.

Somehow Villa need to come up with a flexible system that has minimum impact in order to accommodate away cup allocations and also to utilise seats on occasions when normal away allocations are not sold out.
I posted earlier about this. Theres a simple solution used in plenty of grounds. We know what 10% of our stadium is. All they need to do is install roller shutters further along the concourses in the DE stand to accomodate an extra 1000 seats. Inside the ground a few empty rows of seats with netting on as a buffer zone. Add a few more stewards to control it. It really is that simple. As for the upcoming Wolves  game i'm hearing a lot of those who normally create a great atmosphere next to the away section in the lower north kicking off about it. Another simple solution here. Why don't all those affected just get their seats in the lower Doug?

It isn't that simple because of access to seats, segregation of concourses and emergency exits.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 04, 2019, 08:47:01 AM
At £10 a ticket, it seems such a waste to have 3000 empty seats.  It's a game that would clearly sell out full capacity.

Somehow Villa need to come up with a flexible system that has minimum impact in order to accommodate away cup allocations and also to utilise seats on occasions when normal away allocations are not sold out.
I posted earlier about this. Theres a simple solution used in plenty of grounds. We know what 10% of our stadium is. All they need to do is install roller shutters further along the concourses in the DE stand to accomodate an extra 1000 seats. Inside the ground a few empty rows of seats with netting on as a buffer zone. Add a few more stewards to control it. It really is that simple. As for the upcoming Wolves  game i'm hearing a lot of those who normally create a great atmosphere next to the away section in the lower north kicking off about it. Another simple solution here. Why don't all those affected just get their seats in the lower Doug?

It isn't that simple because of access to seats, segregation of concourses and emergency exits.
Segregation of concourses is simple. A set of roller shutters further along the concourse used only for such occasions. Some rejigging of catering amenities and toilet facilities might also be needed but again that would be straight forward. Access to seating wouldn't be affected. You come up at the nearest staircase and walk along until you get to the right block. That's the same as now. It really isn't a big deal to do it. Even the baggies can do it in the poxy Smethwick end. Numerous clubs have stands that can be altered on a match to match basis.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Drummond on October 04, 2019, 12:23:20 PM
The TV will generally show the teams that get the higher viewing figures, that is why every FA cup game featuring Man Utd is shown on the telly.

I understand (not necessarily accepting that I like it) that for broadcasters with ad ertising revenue to protect. The BBC though, choose ManUtd for cup games whenever they get a chance. The arseholes.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 04, 2019, 12:36:51 PM
I doubt they'll get better viewing figures in this case, anyway. Separate games on Tuesday and Wednesday would have been better in terms of total viewing figures, rather than splitting your audience on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 04, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
At £10 a ticket, it seems such a waste to have 3000 empty seats.  It's a game that would clearly sell out full capacity.

Somehow Villa need to come up with a flexible system that has minimum impact in order to accommodate away cup allocations and also to utilise seats on occasions when normal away allocations are not sold out.
I posted earlier about this. Theres a simple solution used in plenty of grounds. We know what 10% of our stadium is. All they need to do is install roller shutters further along the concourses in the DE stand to accomodate an extra 1000 seats. Inside the ground a few empty rows of seats with netting on as a buffer zone. Add a few more stewards to control it. It really is that simple. As for the upcoming Wolves  game i'm hearing a lot of those who normally create a great atmosphere next to the away section in the lower north kicking off about it. Another simple solution here. Why don't all those affected just get their seats in the lower Doug?

It isn't that simple because of access to seats, segregation of concourses and emergency exits.
Segregation of concourses is simple. A set of roller shutters further along the concourse used only for such occasions. Some rejigging of catering amenities and toilet facilities might also be needed but again that would be straight forward. Access to seating wouldn't be affected. You come up at the nearest staircase and walk along until you get to the right block. That's the same as now. It really isn't a big deal to do it. Even the baggies can do it in the poxy Smethwick end. Numerous clubs have stands that can be altered on a match to match basis.

Other stands may well have been built for such eventualities; that one wasn't. To give one example, it's not going to be very  straightforward to alter toilet facilities for seats that are in the home section when the toilets (other facilities/emergency exits) are behind the rollershutters that can apparently be installed so easily.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 04, 2019, 03:21:09 PM
At £10 a ticket, it seems such a waste to have 3000 empty seats.  It's a game that would clearly sell out full capacity.

Somehow Villa need to come up with a flexible system that has minimum impact in order to accommodate away cup allocations and also to utilise seats on occasions when normal away allocations are not sold out.
I posted earlier about this. Theres a simple solution used in plenty of grounds. We know what 10% of our stadium is. All they need to do is install roller shutters further along the concourses in the DE stand to accomodate an extra 1000 seats. Inside the ground a few empty rows of seats with netting on as a buffer zone. Add a few more stewards to control it. It really is that simple. As for the upcoming Wolves  game i'm hearing a lot of those who normally create a great atmosphere next to the away section in the lower north kicking off about it. Another simple solution here. Why don't all those affected just get their seats in the lower Doug?

It isn't that simple because of access to seats, segregation of concourses and emergency exits.
Segregation of concourses is simple. A set of roller shutters further along the concourse used only for such occasions. Some rejigging of catering amenities and toilet facilities might also be needed but again that would be straight forward. Access to seating wouldn't be affected. You come up at the nearest staircase and walk along until you get to the right block. That's the same as now. It really isn't a big deal to do it. Even the baggies can do it in the poxy Smethwick end. Numerous clubs have stands that can be altered on a match to match basis.

Other stands may well have been built for such eventualities; that one wasn't. To give one example, it's not going to be very  straightforward to alter toilet facilities for seats that are in the home section when the toilets (other facilities/emergency exits) are behind the rollershutters that can apparently be installed so easily.
Ive worked in construction for over 25 years.  I know this can be done relatively easy. Costs may be a stumbling block or perhaps future development of the ground would make it a waste of money, time and effort. It's got to be better than giving them a whole stand behind the goals.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 04, 2019, 03:24:54 PM

Ive worked in construction for over 25 years.  I know this can be done relatively easy. Costs may be a stumbling block or perhaps future development of the ground would make it a waste of money, time and effort. It's got to be better than giving them a whole stand behind the goals.

And are you also experienced in the licensing of football grounds? The stand's been like this since 1994 so I doubt it's something that hasn't been looked at previously.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 04, 2019, 04:22:56 PM
If it was straightforward, do you not think we'd just do it?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on October 04, 2019, 09:56:07 PM
Wolves have been allocated 5,300 tickets. 

Not sure if that's just the upper tier or perhaps the upper tier and part of the normal away section?

1000 more than they're entitled to but hey ho.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Richard on October 05, 2019, 08:17:25 AM
The whole North Stand holds 7086 not sure on the Upper to Lower split
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: London Villan on October 05, 2019, 08:44:49 AM
Roughly 4000 upper 3000 lower.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 05, 2019, 11:37:48 AM

Ive worked in construction for over 25 years.  I know this can be done relatively easy. Costs may be a stumbling block or perhaps future development of the ground would make it a waste of money, time and effort. It's got to be better than giving them a whole stand behind the goals.

And are you also experienced in the licensing of football grounds? The stand's been like this since 1994 so I doubt it's something that hasn't been looked at previously.
No i'm not. But i'm pretty sure the club will have some experience in these matters.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 05, 2019, 11:39:37 AM

Ive worked in construction for over 25 years.  I know this can be done relatively easy. Costs may be a stumbling block or perhaps future development of the ground would make it a waste of money, time and effort. It's got to be better than giving them a whole stand behind the goals.

And are you also experienced in the licensing of football grounds? The stand's been like this since 1994 so I doubt it's something that hasn't been looked at previously.
No i'm not. But i'm pretty sure the club will have some experience in these matters.

Exactly. As Lastfootstamper said, if it was that straightforward they'd have done it.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 05, 2019, 02:06:55 PM

Ive worked in construction for over 25 years.  I know this can be done relatively easy. Costs may be a stumbling block or perhaps future development of the ground would make it a waste of money, time and effort. It's got to be better than giving them a whole stand behind the goals.

And are you also experienced in the licensing of football grounds? The stand's been like this since 1994 so I doubt it's something that hasn't been looked at previously.
No i'm not. But i'm pretty sure the club will have some experience in these matters.

Exactly. As Lastfootstamper said, if it was that straightforward they'd have done it.
I was only offering my opinion on the actual structural alterations that are possible if we're to avoid this situation in future. The regulations around emergency exits etc are not my forte. Perhaps we have architects or council officials amongst us who could enlighten us.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: john e on October 05, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
I can remember when we didn’t think we could put the away fans in the Doug

every time it came up so we could have both ends the same people said ‘if it could be done we’d have done it’  and ‘it’s not l as easy as it seems’

then they just did it
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: TonyD on October 05, 2019, 03:37:51 PM
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Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 06, 2019, 08:45:44 AM
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Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: TelfordVilla on October 06, 2019, 09:01:56 AM
It  does seem that we are going to be 're-learning' lessons from this. It is a mistake to give the visiting fans a whole end of the ground. That is why they were shunted up to the top corner of the Witten Lane Stand. Has there been any explanation from the club for this change in thinking ?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 06, 2019, 09:36:45 AM
The club have tweeted that season ticket holders in the North Stand will need to relocate and that Wolves have taken their full allocation.

Confirmed now they've got all of the North Stand, between 6k and 7k.


Have you got a link for this? There's still not a peep about the game on the website, no emails regarding the game, nothing that I can see anyway.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Risso on October 06, 2019, 09:45:50 AM
The club have tweeted that season ticket holders in the North Stand will need to relocate and that Wolves have taken their full allocation.

Confirmed now they've got all of the North Stand, between 6k and 7k.


Have you got a link for this? There's still not a peep about the game on the website, no emails regarding the game, nothing that I can see anyway.

Here:

https://twitter.com/AVFCSupport/status/1180141947958243334
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 06, 2019, 09:59:51 AM
Ta. The wolves website was more helpful
Quote
4th October 2019
Tickets for Wolves’ Carabao Cup fourth round tie with Aston Villa are due to go on sale this Saturday.

Wolves have been allocated 5,326 tickets for the cup fixture
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Ads on October 06, 2019, 10:37:06 AM
It's because the Witton Lane stand has an incredible amount of steel in it. Be foolish to let 5300 tatters inside it, there would be nowt left but the asbestos.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Risso on October 06, 2019, 10:37:53 AM
I'd be a bit pissed off if I was a season ticket holder in there.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Ads on October 06, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
Me too to be fair. The rules should be "10% or 3,000, which ever is more, subject to section (b)".

Section (b) being you cant have more than your average home gate of the mid-80s if you happened to be so shite you were in the 4th division.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 06, 2019, 10:45:43 AM
Me too to be fair. The rules should be "10% or 3,000, which ever is more, subject to section (b)".

Section (b) being you cant have more than your average home gate of the mid-80s if you happened to be so shite you were in the 4th division.

Which in their case is 30,000.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Damo70 on October 06, 2019, 10:49:08 AM
I can't wait to play a giant of European football like Wolves at Villa Park. It will be like 1983 and Barcelona and Juventus all over again.  I think we could all be forgiven for buying half and half scarves on this occasion.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Ads on October 06, 2019, 10:56:33 AM
Me too to be fair. The rules should be "10% or 3,000, which ever is more, subject to section (b)".

Section (b) being you cant have more than your average home gate of the mid-80s if you happened to be so shite you were in the 4th division.

Which in their case is 30,000.

They took 50,000 to their last final too.

#levels
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: The Edge on October 06, 2019, 01:25:11 PM
Ta. The wolves website was more helpful
Quote
4th October 2019
Tickets for Wolves’ Carabao Cup fourth round tie with Aston Villa are due to go on sale this Saturday.

Wolves have been allocated 5,326 tickets for the cup fixture
That sounds an odd figure. I think the lower holds around 2900. That means just over 4100 in the upper. So theyre not giving them just the upper and 5326 is around 1800 less than the full capacity. Wtf?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: LukeJames on October 06, 2019, 01:28:10 PM
I suspect there'll be a fair bit of netting in the upper and lower.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 06, 2019, 01:39:02 PM
Yep, I reckon we'll see empty rows on each side of the lower, similar to the space currently left next to the away fans in the Doug.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Richard on October 06, 2019, 02:16:49 PM
Cant see the need for netting in the upper and guess they'll have a small section of the lower middle. Hope we let non attending season ticket holders release their seats easily as not much left for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: luke95 on October 09, 2019, 04:46:41 PM
Still no details of when tickets go on sale for this or have I missed something?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Flin5tone on October 09, 2019, 05:00:44 PM
Wolves have just over 5,300

3 middle blocks of the upper / lower north with the others kept empty
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 11, 2019, 03:43:45 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/kg3Qjjm/wolves.jpg)
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: AVH87 on October 11, 2019, 07:30:15 PM
A scramble on Thursday for me to get one along with around 5-6k others I imagine!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Ads on October 11, 2019, 07:42:45 PM
Can't see this making general sale.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Dogtanian on October 11, 2019, 07:49:40 PM
My nephew’s asked me to get him three tickets.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 17, 2019, 05:13:33 PM
Got mine.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: lennythekad on October 17, 2019, 05:43:21 PM
Three in the old onion bag....eventually!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: darren woolley on October 18, 2019, 10:21:22 AM
Got mine.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: lennythekad on October 18, 2019, 11:29:35 AM
Just over 500 left. Over 400 of them in the ‘normal’ away section.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 18, 2019, 01:47:32 PM
I still think they should have done it so that season ticket holders had until a certain date to claim their seat and then they were sold after that. A lot of people are going to miss out on tickets yet there will be empty seats in the ground where season ticket holders couldn't make it.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 18, 2019, 01:51:21 PM
I still think they should have done it so that season ticket holders had until a certain date to claim their seat and then they were sold after that. A lot of people are going to miss out on tickets yet there will be empty seats in the ground where season ticket holders couldn't make it.

That would have been the sensible option.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Dazvillain on October 21, 2019, 08:52:02 AM
1 ticket left this am in c1 ! Have all of upper trinity been on sale too and sold out ?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on October 21, 2019, 10:41:49 AM
Does anyone know roughly how many are left for this? I need to get a couple when they go on sale to ST holders at 5pm today.

I also need to try and get an extra Wolves away ticket and guess when they go on sale to ST holders? 5pm today also!

This is really amateurish from the ticket office putting them both on sale at exactly the same time. It almost certainly means that if I’m able to get tickets for the home cup game, by the time I try for the away game, there will be none left.

You’d think that they would plan these things better for the supporters.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Towser on October 21, 2019, 10:46:52 AM
1 left in C9 when I looked about an hour ago.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on October 21, 2019, 11:34:47 AM
FFS yes it’s sold out. Just checked. Very annoying that there’s Villa fans who can’t get tickets when we’ve allocated Wolves far more than they’re entitled to.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: UK Redsox on October 21, 2019, 11:48:34 AM
FFS yes it’s sold out. Just checked. Very annoying that there’s Villa fans who can’t get tickets when we’ve allocated Wolves far more than they’re entitled to.

There's also probably going to be plenty of empty seats dotted around due to ST holders not going.

Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 21, 2019, 11:55:57 AM
Why? I struggle to see why season ticket holders are going to be boycotting a non-televised local derby when they all attended a televised Monday night game against West Ham.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 21, 2019, 12:03:41 PM
Why? I struggle to see why season ticket holders are going to be boycotting a non-televised local derby when they all attended a televised Monday night game against West Ham.

Because to many people the Premier League is all that matters.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 21, 2019, 12:07:41 PM
To pointless clubs like Watford, maybe. Not to us. We sold out all our tickets for about our last half dozen Championship games. We also had 40,000 in for West Brom, the last time we played a home cup game with similar levels of hype.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: LeeB on October 21, 2019, 12:15:48 PM
Plus, we have a team that's bloody enjoyable to watch.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 21, 2019, 12:16:17 PM
Because our first FA Cup quarter final at home for more than half a century, against our oldest rivals, is exactly the same as a fourth round League Cup match between two reserve teams against opponents we fall over ourselves to say don't matter to us. 
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Risso on October 21, 2019, 12:20:02 PM
Well I suppose we'll find out in due course.  I reckon it will be rammed though.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Pat Mustard on October 21, 2019, 12:20:35 PM
Why? I struggle to see why season ticket holders are going to be boycotting a non-televised local derby when they all attended a televised Monday night game against West Ham.

I suspect the fact that it's half-term week might also have an impact on some season-ticket holders - many will already be going away, or have other plans for the week.  I can't imagine there being too many empty seats on the night however.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 21, 2019, 12:21:22 PM
Well I suppose we'll find out in due course.  I reckon it will be rammed though.

It may well be, but I think there'll still be a lot who won't bother and as has been suggested, it would have been far better if season ticket holders had opt in to get their tickets.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 21, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
There will be 40,000+ there. It's a Villa game. There are always 40,000+ there.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 21, 2019, 12:27:19 PM
Sudden thought - maybe the extra tickets for Wolves fans is a quid pro quo for them agreeing to allow season tickets in for free and £10 for the rest?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 21, 2019, 12:32:17 PM
Sounds plausible. I thought it was more due to the difficulty of segregating them when you have to allow a minimum number which is greater than our usual allocation? So you may as well give them the extra seats as they'll be empty otherwise.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 21, 2019, 12:33:50 PM
Sounds plausible. I thought it was more due to the difficulty of segregating them when you have to allow a minimum number which is greater than our usual allocation? So you may as well give them the extra seats as they'll be empty otherwise.

I've no idea, but either is possible.   
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on October 21, 2019, 12:50:18 PM
Sounds plausible. I thought it was more due to the difficulty of segregating them when you have to allow a minimum number which is greater than our usual allocation? So you may as well give them the extra seats as they'll be empty otherwise.

I've no idea, but either is possible.

As I understand it, even though Villa are allowing ST holders in for free, the league still require Villa to declare these seats as paid for, as per equivalent prices elsewhere in the ground.  Furthermore, away fans must be charged the same as home fans for similar areas.  By allowing ST holders in for free, there is no incentive for Villa to charge paying home or away fans a great deal.  This is because the more that is charged, the more we have to cough up for the free spaces.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: amfy on October 21, 2019, 01:00:43 PM
Since moving up north I haven’t made it to weekday games at Villa Park, despite having a season ticket, but have made an exception for this Wolves Cup game.

It has entailed booking a city centre hotel & having to be on a 6.15am train the following morning to get into work in time - but the fixture is exciting for me so I’m on my way!

So if I’m anything to go by maybe more season ticket holders than usual will turn up!
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 21, 2019, 01:02:10 PM
I do wonder if we might get another Swansea style fudge with a virtually full house and a declaration that the crowd was actually only thirty thousand...
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: UK Redsox on October 21, 2019, 01:41:04 PM
Why? I struggle to see why season ticket holders are going to be boycotting a non-televised local derby when they all attended a televised Monday night game against West Ham.

'Boycotting' is a bit of a strong word cd. It'll be a game in a secondary cup competition with plenty of reserves playing.

ST holders should have had to opt-in by a given date and the spare tickets put on sale.


EDIT - as the Head Dave has already said
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 21, 2019, 02:00:52 PM
Seems unnecessary. And it's inevitable that the system would have crashed and people would have moaned that they couldn't get a ticket. It'll be near a full house. I see no reason why any more will be unable to attend this game than were unable to make a televised Monday night game against West Ham near peak holiday season. You always get a few missing who have made other plans, but I doubt it will be any more than for our league games. And I don't think we will see too many reserves, either.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 21, 2019, 02:36:54 PM
Given how many season ticket holders and members we have now, I'd speculate that to be in with a shout of Wembley tickets you're going to have to at the very least turn up for home ties.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: shirley_villan on October 21, 2019, 02:43:08 PM
I think there will be loads of empty seats. Some people just don't care about cup matches and some people won't be able to make it with it being a week game and won't bother to give their ticket to somebody else. Look at the FA Cup match against Swansea in January- that was free for ST holders and sold out but there were was nowhere near 40k there. Very frustrating that the club couldn't come up with a system but where you had to claim your seat, as we'd have easily sold out still.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 21, 2019, 03:06:10 PM
I think there will be loads of empty seats. Some people just don't care about cup matches and some people won't be able to make it with it being a week game and won't bother to give their ticket to somebody else. Look at the FA Cup match against Swansea in January- that was free for ST holders and sold out but there were was nowhere near 40k there. Very frustrating that the club couldn't come up with a system but where you had to claim your seat, as we'd have easily sold out still.
It usually happens for cup games, you have until a certain date to claim your seat and if you don't it's then put on sale. It's not rocket science and as you say would have seen a complete sell out still as I've seen lots of fans asking for spare tickets and saying they couldn't get one. Now there will be 3k-4k unnecessary empty seats in the ground I reckon.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Brassneck on October 21, 2019, 03:41:23 PM
What is to stop people claiming their seat in advance, not knowing at that point whether they would actually be going or not?  I would certainly claim my seat if it was free and then cross the bridge of deciding whether to go nearer the time.

As a side issue, I think this game is a bit different.  It's got a bit of needle given the mouthing off that Wolves have been doing over the past 2 years.  Our reserves are better than last seasons first team.  The football we are playing is exciting and there are a few players that people will want to have the opportunity of watching for the first time.  I don't think there will be that many empty seats.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: in exile on October 22, 2019, 09:05:19 AM
Another sold out game
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: wittonwarrior on October 22, 2019, 09:14:00 AM
I see it as a free hit , yes I do want us to give it large to their fat gobs but as long as we get something a week and a half later at the custard bowl all good
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Axl Rose on October 22, 2019, 09:49:41 AM
I'd love to beat those gobby twats, twice.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 22, 2019, 02:47:49 PM
I'd love to beat those gobby twats, twice.

Thrice.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: darren woolley on October 22, 2019, 04:06:57 PM
Just seen the sold out sign on the Official website I'm looking forward it.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 24, 2019, 11:29:01 AM
ESPN+ USA are now listed as broadcasting the game. Excellent news for those struggling to get tickets, long-distance supporters etc.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: youvandal on October 24, 2019, 08:26:58 PM
Can't make this now so I have 2 tickets for sale in Doug Ellis, Area P2, Row MM - £20 the pair.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: QuintonVilla on October 24, 2019, 08:57:17 PM
I see they were singing about us again tonight. I can't wait until we get back into Europe so we can sing about Wolves.
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: brentastonb6 on October 24, 2019, 10:59:17 PM
I see they were singing about us again tonight. I can't wait until we get back into Europe so we can sing about Wolves.
What were they singing? They haven’t stooped to the level of the Stripey’s & B-lose singing SOTV have they ?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: avfc456 on October 25, 2019, 02:57:57 PM
Can't make this now so I have 2 tickets for sale in Doug Ellis, Area P2, Row MM - £20 the pair.

Have you sold these?  I am after 2 after missing out on membership sales...
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: youvandal on October 25, 2019, 05:00:49 PM
Can't make this now so I have 2 tickets for sale in Doug Ellis, Area P2, Row MM - £20 the pair.

Now sold
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 25, 2019, 07:14:53 PM
Is it on TV in the UK?
Title: Re: Carabao (League) Cup 4th Round - Wolves (h)
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 25, 2019, 07:47:18 PM
Nah.
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