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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on August 27, 2019, 09:38:52 PM
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Job done
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Hopefully Targett isn’t badly hurt but yes job done. Not perfect despite the scoreline but with essentially a completely different back 5 and midfield it was to be expected I suppose.
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Compare this to the years of dirge under Lambert and Bruce. Such a relief.
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https://twitter.com/AV_The_Informer/status/1166448339245850625?s=09
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Marvelous
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Routine day at the office these days. As someone mentioned on the match thread, if Lambert was in charge we'd probably have blown it and he'd be mumbling something about excellent and we go again. Happy days
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Seems like a professional job done. Good that a few got a run out. So happy that Davis got his goal, could be an important player for us this season.
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Compare this to the years of dirge under Lambert and Bruce. Such a relief.
On a night where Norwich are going out to Crawley, quite.
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Why was Jack wearing a concealed shoulder holster?
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Decent performance without anyone standing out as needing to come into the team in the league.
Davis motm for me, thought he held play up brilliantly, took his goal well and deserved an assist for a lovely bit of play to put AEG one-on-one.
Marv looks good but a bit short of fitness, Konsa and Hause played ok but clearly need to get used to each other, Guilbert was class and Jack was miles above anyone else on the pitch in terms of quality.
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Nice to rack up the goals. Performances are difficult to judge bearing in mind the quality of opposition but Guilbert stood out, Davis did well and that'll hopefully give Jack a bit of confidence. I think for Marvellous it was more of a fitness excercise so I'll reserve judgement.
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Why was Jack wearing a concealed shoulder holster?
Probably one of those GPS tracker thingies
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We have a squad.
Finally a squad of players who are capable of stepping up and being professional and able.
I’m calling it now. I am going to fall in love with marvelous.
He was superb and I am completely convinced he had a 100% pass completion rate...I didn’t see he give the ball away once.
Well done lads.
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Great job, well done, My wife was saying it was only Crewe but there was a time when we could have lost this game.
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Needed Jack to come on to be really sure of victory.
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To win 6-1 away with a load of players that haven't played together competitively is decent going.
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A 6-1 win away from home with half of our first choice players rested.
Fucking great stuff.
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Haven’t seen or heard any of the game but just read all the match thread. Sounds like a professional performance despite Crewe having a bit of possession and a few chances. A good blend of squad, first team and youth players. Looking forward to watching the highlights.
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Played very well going forward but not so down our left as they created a number of chances but couldn’t hit a barn door.
Marvelous looked composed on the ball as did Fred. I was surprised that Jack came on when we were so far ahead, maybe DS thinks he’s not up to speed yet and needs minutes in his legs. Some decent goals also.
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don’t think this result is because we have started to take the cup seriously
I think we did under previous managers just that this team and the way we now play is far better we don’t get bogged down in a dog fight just let our superior class tell
good result,
really happy with that hope we can put a Wembley bound run together
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Well done lads, pleased for Keinan first goal for 19 months according to Sky.
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I can't remember the last time I felt so confident before a cup game against a lower league side. They had a few chances which could have made it look less convincing than it was by the sound of it but good win all the same.
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It was a 10 min spell...
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Great result. Well done Villa.
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Compare this to the years of dirge under Lambert and Bruce. Such a relief.
On a night where Norwich are going out to Crawley, quite.
Palace out to Colchester as well. Looked like most of their first team played as well.
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What happened to Targett?
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I can't remember the last time I felt so confident before a cup game against a lower league side. They had a few chances which could have made it look less convincing than it was by the sound of it but good win all the same.
Yeah have to say I felt the same
it’s a good feeling nowadays
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Lovely stuff well done.
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Marvellous was my motm. Very composed performance. Crewe never stopped playing to be fair. Great result
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What is this comfortably putting lower league sides away in the early rounds of cups malarkey all about? Forgotten what it feels like to be honest. Through to the next round and the squad got a good run out. Job done.
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Compare this to the years of dirge under Lambert and Bruce. Such a relief.
On a night where Norwich are going out to Crawley, quite.
Palace out to Colchester as well. Looked like most of their first team played as well.
Crewe, Norwich, Colchester. What's the connection ?
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We’re a proper team now.
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We finally have a properly run club where we play a certain way and even though we made 10 changes all the players know what is expected and how Dean wants us to play. Having players desperate to get in the first team creates competition and hopefully gone are the days when players don't give a shit about playing in the Carabao Cup.
Some of the football was superb and yes it was only Crewe but lets remember Luton, Burton and the like over the last few years.
Loving it.
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We have a squad.
Finally a squad of players who are capable of stepping up and being professional and able.
I’m calling it now. I am going to fall in love with marvelous.
He was superb and I am completely convinced he had a 100% pass completion rate...I didn’t see he give the ball away once.
Well done lads.
Loved the marvellous backheeled nutmeg
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Granted it's against very poor opposition but Konsa and Hause both seemed very comfortable with the ball at their feet. Really helped us play out from the back with ease. Davis movement and hold up play was excellent too.
Not so convinced by our midfield without the ball including our two wide men. Crewe played through us very easily at times and against better opposition that would be punished. Pity about Targetts injury, hopefully not serious .
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Yes may be poor opposition but we have messed up against very poor lower tier teams regularly is the past seasons so well done Villa boys. A thoroughly professional performance.
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Tip of the hat to Lansbury for a superb assist for Jacks goal.
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Tip of the hat to Lansbury for a superb assist for Jacks goal.
Think he got three assists? Jack, AEG and bit of a scramble off a Hourihane delivery for the first.
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Knackered after watching that, but it was thoroughly professional, and we scored some good goals. Work now..
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We have a squad.
Finally a squad of players who are capable of stepping up and being professional and able.
I’m calling it now. I am going to fall in love with marvelous.
He was superb and I am completely convinced he had a 100% pass completion rate...I didn’t see he give the ball away once.
Well done lads.
Loved the marvellous backheeled nutmeg
That's got to be on Saturday's Soccer AM, surely? That's if it's still on, and anyone still watches. 😂
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Goals/Highlights
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11795760/crewe-1-6-aston-villa
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DS post match interview https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1166466804727857155
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Fucking ace.
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Looked good going forward. Sometimes I wish Davies didn't over try. He was chasing down balls which in reality he had no chance whatsoever of getting. He would be better slowing down and waiting for the right opportunity.
Defence and in particular Hause had their moments. Not overly impressed. Steer had a good game but you have to wonder if Crewe had a striker of even championship quality what would have happened.
All in all a decent date night now its onwards and upwards.
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Comfortably dispatching lower league opposition in a cup game? Well planned squad rotation? A consistent way of playing regardless of who is in the starting XI? Six goals?
What is this witchcraft?!
Dean Smith’s Villa. Times they are a’changing.
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What is the update on Targett's injury? Also is Chester still injured? I'm fearful he won't play again !
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AVFC extended highlights.
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Loved Smith's post-matched interview, especially where he said he wasn't happy with the "distances" in the team, and how that allowed Crewe to make so many chances. I think a lot of that was down to playing 2 attacking midfielders in Lansbury and Hourihane and then one naturally holding midfielder in Marvelous. Against a better side you'd want the 3 of them playing much closer together.
I also thought the attitude of the whole team was excellent. They harried and hustled Crewe when out of possession and everyone put a shift-in, on and off the ball. Again, Smith has to take credit for this.
Was delighted for Davis to get a goal too. His ability with his back to goal is nothing short of excellent, so if he can start chipping-in with a few goals too we could have a real player on our hands. The great thing with him too, is that he's very similar to Wesley in that regard, so makes an ideal understudy that we can bring-in without having to change the whole system.
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Lansbury was great again today. I think he can count himself really unlucky to be behind the most naturally gifted player we have produced for a generation and also the most complete midfielder we have bought for a generation.
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I enjoyed last night, Crewe had some really good chances and played well, they could have scored a couple more if they had taken their chances. To be honest, it is easy to think that over many seasons in the last few years we could easily have lost this fixture.
I like how seriously we are taking the cups and I like how we can field a strong team due to our strength in depth. It was obvious Smith wants to progress in this competition and I'm all for that. I think that if a club has ambitions of being in the top half of the Premier league then they should also be aiming to be regular quarter-finalists at least in the cup competitions.
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Not done that in a cup for so many years. We'd have been televised as potential shock material under previous managers.
It was still a decent strength side unde the circumstances, which is nice. Thought it took a while to settle but we were calm and composed.
They had a couple of decent players I thought. The left back was handy.
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Loved Smith's post-matched interview, especially where he said he wasn't happy with the "distances" in the team, and how that allowed Crewe to make so many chances. I think a lot of that was down to playing 2 attacking midfielders in Lansbury and Hourihane and then one naturally holding midfielder in Marvelous. Against a better side you'd want the 3 of them playing much closer together.
I think we had a different problem playing with "2 x No.8s" as Smith calls it v Everton too. When Sigurdsson pushed onto Luiz we couldnt get the ball into McGinn and Grealish from the back as they were too far forward. Not that it mattered v Crewe but my preference would be to drop one of the midfielders back next to the holding player. A bit more tactical fluidity is required from our midfield three both with and without the ball.
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Lansbury was great again today. I think he can count himself really unlucky to be behind the most naturally gifted player we have produced for a generation and also the most complete midfielder we have bought for a generation.
It was the hardest I've seen Lansbury work, since he signed. Hopefully the penny's dropped that if he wants to establish himself in this squad, and have any chance of getting another contract, he need to earn it. In terms of ability he's up there with the best in our squad - showed by a couple of fantastic touches; the assist for Hourihane for one, and also a 'flicked' headed pass in the second-half, and was also unlucky not to score when closing their keeper down.
He's been in every squad so far this season, so Smith obviously likes him as a player. Lets hope he keeps it up.
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Loved Smith's post-matched interview, especially where he said he wasn't happy with the "distances" in the team, and how that allowed Crewe to make so many chances. I think a lot of that was down to playing 2 attacking midfielders in Lansbury and Hourihane and then one naturally holding midfielder in Marvelous. Against a better side you'd want the 3 of them playing much closer together.
I think we had a different problem playing with "2 x No.8s" as Smith calls it v Everton too. When Sigurdsson pushed onto Luiz we couldnt get the ball into McGinn and Grealish from the back as they were too far forward. Not that it mattered v Crewe but my preference would be to drop one of the midfielders back next to the holding player. A bit more tactical fluidity is required from our midfield three both with and without the ball.
Agree with that. As much as we all love both Grealish and McGinn they are both naturally attacking midfielders. McGinn's work-rate often covers for the fact that he's caught-out up-field quite often, and obviously Smith has recognised the need to play a more defensive holding midfielder than Hourihane in the majority of matches. I always thin back to Townsed, Taylor and Draper as being the perfect mix for a midfield 3. They could all do a bit of everything, but had very defined roles within the team. Both Luiz and Marvelous (albeit in briefly) have shown that they're capable of doing more than just anchoring the midfield, so hopefully we'll see that midfield dynamic evolve as the season goes on.
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Lansbury was great again today. I think he can count himself really unlucky to be behind the most naturally gifted player we have produced for a generation and also the most complete midfielder we have bought for a generation.
It was the hardest I've seen Lansbury work, since he signed. Hopefully the penny's dropped that if he wants to establish himself in this squad, and have any chance of getting another contract, he need to earn it. In terms of ability he's up there with the best in our squad - showed by a couple of fantastic touches; the assist for Hourihane for one, and also a 'flicked' headed pass in the second-half, and was also unlucky not to score when closing their keeper down.
He's been in every squad so far this season, so Smith obviously likes him as a player. Lets hope he keeps it up.
His back heal for Jack's goal was great too. As you say hopefully he can keep it up.
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What is the update on Targett's injury? Also is Chester still injured? I'm fearful he won't play again !
Not sure about Targett but Chester is recovering from a hamstring injury.
As for the game, I was pleased with the performance but Jota was poor, especially given the quality of the opposition. Just my opinion of course
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What last night also did was send a clear message out to the other players that the back ups aren’t just there to make up the numbers. And that’s how it should be. I didn’t think he would make 10 changes so I was a bit concerned. And at times early on it showed as the chemistry wasn’t quite right. But once we settled down a bit and scored you could see it coming together. Crewe had a very good 15 min spell in the first but once we decided to step up a gear there was only we’ve going to be one winner. The goal we conceded was disappointing so I’m sure that will be reviewed internally but all in all a thoroughly solid display.
Ratings
Steer - 7
Elmo - 6
Targett - 6
Konsa - 7
Hause - 7
Marvelous - 8
Lansbury - 8
Hourihane - 8
Davis - 8
AEG - 6
Jota - 6
Jack - 7
Freddie - 7
Cam - a well deserved 10 :)
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Yeah Lansbury looked like motm in the highlights judging by his involvement in the goals, although hard to tell without being there.
It's another great sign that the fringe players are being kept sharp and interested meaning we have a functioning squad. One of our biggest problems of recent years and under various managers including MON has been a clique/bomb squad mentality with in and out players leading to a total lack of options beyond the first team. We're being run by grown ups now and the players appear to be responding accordingly.
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I’m hoping for Bury in the next round.
Sorry, too soon?
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I’m hoping for Bury in the next round.
Sorry, too soon?
No, just poor taste.
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Well done Villa boys! A potential banana skin avoided, but that in itself ahows how far we've come under Smith; we have a motivated squad 0f 20+ players. Great news UTV!
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I thought Lansbury was having a poor game for about 20minutes with a couple of mishit passes that he did little to try to win back and at least once their got round him far too easily and, again he didn't seem all the fussed. I'm not sure what changed but a minute or 2 before our 2nd he seemed to switch on and press onto one of their midfielders and he just built from there and, as above, in the end he played really well.
In terms of ratings I think TV is about right but I'd be looking at 8s for Jack and Guilbert as well, they came on and had an aura of being a level above everyone else, Jack in particular.
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To win 6-1 away with a load of players that haven't played together competitively is decent going.
careful not to read too much into these pre season friendlies ;)
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Good move to bring on Jack to I assume play as part of the front 3 as I can see him there more often as the season progresses, especially with the strength of central midfielders we currently have.
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Good move to bring on Jack to I assume play as part of the front 3 as I can see him there more often as the season progresses, especially with the strength of central midfielders we currently have.
I agree, I can see Luiz, Marv/Lansbury, McGinn - Jack, Wesley, Jota/Trez as the midfield and attack a few times through the season but it requires us to play the fullbacks very high to give us width.
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Good move to bring on Jack to I assume play as part of the front 3 as I can see him there more often as the season progresses, especially with the strength of central midfielders we currently have.
I could definitely see him playing on the left of a front three, but the only problem with that is we would need an attacking left back playing to take up the space left when Jack would drift inside. Targett would fit that bill, but obviously hasn't done quite enough just yet.
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Clinical and professional performance by us.
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Looks a decent player, that Charlie Kirk -always been impressed when I've seen him.