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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: kieron on May 20, 2019, 03:02:44 PM

Title: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on May 20, 2019, 03:02:44 PM
Just announced by the Club on Instagram. Three year deal.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: kieron on May 20, 2019, 03:03:52 PM
And now on OS:

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/05/20/aston-villa-partner-with-kappa
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on May 20, 2019, 03:17:56 PM
Shame it's still not Luke 77 as I like this year's kits. Least it's not Marcon or Under Armour I guess.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: Legion on May 20, 2019, 03:22:09 PM
Luke is formal wear next season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on May 20, 2019, 03:24:51 PM
As I'm getting married later in the year, that could come in handy!!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on May 20, 2019, 03:32:48 PM


I'm sure there's some logic to this but i can't see it right now
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 20, 2019, 03:35:49 PM
hope theres none of that weird patterned shit going on like Napolis shirts
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: manic-road on May 20, 2019, 03:40:07 PM
Aston Villa is delighted to announce Kappa as the clubís Principal Partner for the 2019/20 season.

The Italian sportswear giants, who have signed a three-year agreement running until 2022, will provide kit and training wear for our first team, development and junior sides as well as the Ladiesí teams.

Kappa have been making sportswear for over 60 years and have supplied kit for numerous teams across a wide range of sports including the Italian national football team.

Aston Villa Chief Commercial Officer Nicola Ibbetson said: ďI am delighted that Aston Villa have partnered with such a recognisable and iconic brand who have a long-standing reputation for delivering quality, eye-catching performance sportswear. 

ďAt the forefront of our decision was the key requirement to find a partner that would put design at the heart of the process and do justice to our famous claret and blue colours.

ďIn addition to collaborating with some of the leading experts in the field of technical sports kit and fashion, we are currently working with Kappa and Fanatics to ensure that all Aston Villa supporters are catered for with a wide range of replica kit and merchandise.Ē

Kappaís UK Managing Director, Mark Ward said: ďAston Villa is a world-class club with a strong identity and heritage. This new partnership with Aston Villa reinforces once again our strong ambition in football connecting our brand with one of the biggest clubs in the UK. We are excited to be a key part of Aston Villaís global commercial strategy, serving players and supporters across the world thanks to a large product proposition from sports to lifestyle.Ē

Fanatics International President, Steve Davis, said: ďWe have had an incredibly successful first season working with Aston Villa and we are delighted that an innovative and world-renowned brand like Kappa has joined the partnership.  We are looking forward to working with Kappa, who have produced some of the most iconic and stylish kits throughout the years, to give Villa fans another kit that they will love next season.Ē

Doesn't say how much the deal is worth..

Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: eamonn on May 20, 2019, 03:48:44 PM


I'm sure there's some logic to this but i can't see it right now

The bottom line presumably.

If the krap fits..
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 20, 2019, 03:50:39 PM
Claret shirt, blue sleeves and they have my support. Be nice if they could get the kit out before the end of summer for the first time in our history.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: wozwebs on May 20, 2019, 04:01:52 PM
Looking at the video, the shirt has blue sleeves and shorts are blue. Interesting to see Luke were Technical partner this season and 32 Red were Principal Partner. Kappa announced as Principal Partner and sounds like Fanatics will still manufacture it but Kappa will design it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principle Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 20, 2019, 04:39:40 PM
Letís judge the kit when we see it. Claret and blue with a Premier League logo on the sleeve will do for me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OCD on May 20, 2019, 05:40:46 PM
I'm surprised it's not Adidas.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 20, 2019, 06:00:52 PM
Don't mind that it's Kappa and I have a feeling it'll either be very good or terrible rather than average. 

This year's Torino's home and away kits with light blue on them would be nice. Very simple and clean looking design ignoring the sponsor's logo. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VancouverLion on May 20, 2019, 06:01:08 PM
Wouldíve been over the moon with this 35 years ago, loved Kappa when I were a lad. Not been overly impressed with any of their kits, letís hope itís a good un.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 20, 2019, 06:10:18 PM
Stick a Villa badge on it, job done.

(https://www.prokituk.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/274x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/1/2/1220_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 20, 2019, 06:23:27 PM
Don't mind that it's Kappa and I have a feeling it'll either be very good or terrible rather than average. 



This is so true . some like superb and some look horrendous , never middle of the road
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on May 20, 2019, 08:23:09 PM
Stick a Villa badge on it, job done.

(https://www.prokituk.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/274x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/1/2/1220_1.jpg)

Blimey Mr Shin, that looks like something out of Star Trek!!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on May 20, 2019, 08:32:12 PM
Stick a Villa badge on it, job done.

(https://www.prokituk.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/274x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/1/2/1220_1.jpg)

I like it, just not the blue bit, or the claret bit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on May 20, 2019, 08:33:57 PM
Be funny and refreshing if we released a statement saying Ďwe chose to partner with Kappa because they agreed to pay us more money that anyone elseí
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 20, 2019, 08:39:31 PM
I'll go for the China kit but with the lion rather than a dragon in claret & blue, obviously.

Changed my mind, a Claret & blue version of the 1997-98 Barcelona European home kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on May 20, 2019, 09:00:35 PM
Looking at the video, the shirt has blue sleeves and shorts are blue. Interesting to see Luke were Technical partner this season and 32 Red were Principal Partner. Kappa announced as Principal Partner and sounds like Fanatics will still manufacture it but Kappa will design it.

Blue shorts?!  :o
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on May 20, 2019, 09:25:26 PM
Don't care who the manufacturer is while we still have the awful crest.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on May 20, 2019, 09:43:59 PM
Itís not the skin tight kit either
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villafirst on May 20, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Disappointing. Would have preferred Adidas. Naseef Sawiris has a 6% stake in that brand.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on May 20, 2019, 10:14:38 PM
80s crest + umbro and the shirts would fly off the shelves.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: luke95 on May 20, 2019, 10:36:19 PM
Don't care who the manufacturer is while we still have the awful crest.

This is something I'd like to see changed as well , if we do get promoted rebranding the club, new badge & all that  wouldn't be a bad move.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: somec on May 21, 2019, 08:15:35 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think Kappa have made kits for that many English clubs.

Man City in the 90s

Leeds current kit.

Maybe Wigan as well at one point?

Can't think of any more.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: in exile on May 21, 2019, 08:49:07 AM
When I think of Kappa I think of chavvy tracksuits and skin tight football shirts with ridiculous figures running down the sleeves
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ktvillan on May 21, 2019, 09:15:07 AM
I just hope they do a better job on the colours than the last Italian suppliers we had with their purple and lilac monstrosities.  At least Luke brought proper claret back.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 21, 2019, 09:18:25 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think Kappa have made kits for that many English clubs.

Man City in the 90s

Leeds current kit.

Maybe Wigan as well at one point?

Can't think of any more.

Spurs

Blackburn
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: themossman on May 21, 2019, 09:23:13 AM
If it makes commercial sense then great.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on May 21, 2019, 10:22:26 AM
I just hope they fit a larger man like me and are not skin tight fitting.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on May 21, 2019, 11:30:11 AM
I think Luke's shirt was fantastic, and clearly incredibly popular despite not as much blue on the sleeves as some would have liked.

I presume it's down to money.  Here's hoping Kappa get it right too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on May 21, 2019, 12:17:52 PM
I could be wrong but I don't think Kappa have made kits for that many English clubs.

Man City in the 90s

Leeds current kit.

Maybe Wigan as well at one point?

Can't think of any more.

Spurs

Blackburn
i was working up north in late 90ís. saw lots of those man city kappa shirts on the streets. It was terrible. Wrong shade of man city blue. The spurs one was alright, as I recall but forget about buying a replica one as they were as tight as 2 licks of paint!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 21, 2019, 12:56:28 PM
They do 2 versions for Leeds fans

(https://i.ibb.co/cvqx8tx/Screenshot-113.png)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ktvillan on May 21, 2019, 01:40:41 PM
I think Luke's shirt was fantastic, and clearly incredibly popular despite not as much blue on the sleeves as some would have liked.

I presume it's down to money.  Here's hoping Kappa get it right too.

I didn't like Luke's shirt at first because of the lack of blue sleeves, but the more I saw it in the flesh the more I liked it.  It  looks pretty stylish for a football top and the claret is a good shade good (blue is a bit wishy washy for my taste though.)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on May 21, 2019, 02:15:41 PM
The Luke shirt is great. One of the best we have ever had.

It will go down in history as our promotion shirt and we will look back on it fondly.

It will be a coveted shirt with fans trying to track it down on ebay for years to come.

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on May 21, 2019, 02:17:08 PM
Are we stuck with those gamblers on our chest next season too?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on May 21, 2019, 02:19:55 PM
They do 2 versions for Leeds fans

(https://i.ibb.co/cvqx8tx/Screenshot-113.png)
Those are horrible.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 21, 2019, 02:22:16 PM
The massive logo doesnít help. I always like something a lot more subtle and understated. Or just simple like the VW on the Wolfsburg kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on May 21, 2019, 02:24:01 PM
No one's making any of you buy it.

Do what I do: go retro in King Cotton!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on May 21, 2019, 02:49:36 PM
They do 2 versions for Leeds fans

(https://i.ibb.co/cvqx8tx/Screenshot-113.png)
Those are horrible.

That still works without the photos.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hairbandinho on May 21, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
Away Kit:


(https://i.ibb.co/0YvpGc1/IMG-20190521-125631-917.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0YvpGc1)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on May 21, 2019, 03:56:04 PM
Away Kit:


(https://i.ibb.co/0YvpGc1/IMG-20190521-125631-917.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0YvpGc1)

Third kit
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 21, 2019, 03:57:15 PM
It's just a knock up someone has done, there's loads online. Some look decent, some make your eyes bleed.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on May 21, 2019, 04:07:29 PM
No one's making any of you buy it.

Do what I do: go retro in King Cotton!

That is a good point. People can always go retro and the retro ones we have available are some of the best from any club. I have even had fans of other clubs telling me how aesthetic our Umbro 80s shirts look.

Beautiful.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hairbandinho on May 21, 2019, 04:14:26 PM
Away Kit:


(https://i.ibb.co/0YvpGc1/IMG-20190521-125631-917.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0YvpGc1)

Third kit

All I know is it's from a reliable person that is the away kit.

Time will tell if 100% accurate but I have no reason to doubt it. It's certainly not a fan made mock up
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on May 21, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
Away Kit:


(https://i.ibb.co/0YvpGc1/IMG-20190521-125631-917.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0YvpGc1)

Third kit

All I know is it's from a reliable person that is the away kit.

Time will tell if 100% accurate but I have no reason to doubt it. It's certainly not a fan made mock up

If it is then I just want to say I absolutely hated it the first time round so a rebadge is incredibly lazy and Iíll hate this one as well.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on May 21, 2019, 06:16:45 PM


I absolutely hated that green/black monstrosity the first time around (and the home kit from the same season)

Just my luck we'll have something hideous just after my Luke love in where i bought home and away and some other gear
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hairbandinho on May 21, 2019, 06:50:09 PM
It's just a knock up someone has done, there's loads online. Some look decent, some make your eyes bleed.

I believe this is the genuine thing from a club source.  Not a fan mock up
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 21, 2019, 07:02:31 PM
I saw it yesterday online with a bunch of other ones so just assumed they were all fan mock ups.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: SW9-VILLA on May 21, 2019, 07:30:29 PM
The Luke shirt was the first shirt in years I've bought. Not really fussed about Kappa, suppose it's better than Under Armour.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 21, 2019, 09:15:43 PM
I liked that green/black one in the nineties. I'd be happy if we had something similar. But, as ever, do what the fuck you want with the away kit just don't piss about with the claret shirt, blue sleeves.

Just thought I'd mention this in case anyone was unaware of my views...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on May 21, 2019, 09:23:20 PM
Have we ever had a shirt as divisive as that green and black horror show?!

How so many people can like it is beyond me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 21, 2019, 09:40:39 PM
Away Kit:


(https://i.ibb.co/0YvpGc1/IMG-20190521-125631-917.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0YvpGc1)

Third kit

All I know is it's from a reliable person that is the away kit.

Time will tell if 100% accurate but I have no reason to doubt it. It's certainly not a fan made mock up

If it is then I just want to say I absolutely hated it the first time round so a rebadge is incredibly lazy and Iíll hate this one as well.

Without wanting to become embroiled in a tedious debate, that looks like a mock-up to me. The sponsor looks like it comes from a different source than the shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: themossman on May 21, 2019, 09:54:44 PM
I loved the hideous green shirt. My first one and it reminds me of Dalian and Coca Cola cup glory (lord knows whether I have misplaced it in my mental timeline).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 21, 2019, 10:05:00 PM
Would've been great without the yoghurt advert, if it looks like that mock-up it'll be as nice as a very nice thing reading Howard Marks' autobiography while eating a Nice biscuit in Nice.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on May 22, 2019, 12:36:46 AM
I can accept a black away shirt, but never understood why it was also green and red?! Horrible kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on May 22, 2019, 03:54:10 AM
I loved the hideous green shirt. My first one and it reminds me of Dalian and Coca Cola cup glory (lord knows whether I have misplaced it in my mental timeline).

My first Villa shirt, too. I loved it and still do. Don't know if we need a nod to that kit for next season's shirt, however.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Nii Lamptey on May 22, 2019, 07:47:49 AM
I loved the hideous green shirt. My first one and it reminds me of Dalian and Coca Cola cup glory (lord knows whether I have misplaced it in my mental timeline).

My first Villa shirt, too. I loved it and still do. Don't know if we need a nod to that kit for next season's shirt, however.

And me! That shirt had a special place in my heart as I had McGrath #5 on mine. Good times.   :)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on May 22, 2019, 08:40:43 AM
The waistcoat version is an iconic Villa item.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on May 22, 2019, 08:42:23 AM
The waistcoat version is an iconic Villa item.

It was made for Partridge to pose in around Paris.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: LeeB on May 22, 2019, 10:08:32 AM
The waistcoat version is an iconic Villa item.

It was made for Partridge to pose in around Paris.

Ice white socks with double cadet stripe.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VillaSpen on May 22, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think Kappa have made kits for that many English clubs.

Man City in the 90s

Leeds current kit.

Maybe Wigan as well at one point?

Can't think of any more.

Spurs

Blackburn

Fulham when they had that mad Europa League campaign. They had a black shirt with a lovely white and gold sash that if we were to see something similar for an away kit with more relevant colours I'd be delighted.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on May 22, 2019, 11:48:46 AM
Responsible for the bunch below, according to Wiki...

Formula 1   

On 20 February 2018, it was announced Kappa began a partnership with the Alfa Romeo Sauber F1 Team, supplying the team and drivers with gear, and featuring the logo on the cars' headrests.

Football   

National teams   

 British Virgin Islands
 Fiji
 Gabon
 Namibia
 New Caledonia
 Tunisia

Associations and leagues   

Kappa is the official football supplier for the following leagues, referees and associations:

Brazil Paulist„o
Italy Serie B
Australia Football Queensland

Club teams   

Africa   

South Africa SuperSport United
South Africa Bidvest Wits F.C.
South Africa Highlands Park F.C.
Tunisia US Monastir
Egypt Pyramids FC

Asia   

Australia Adamstown Rosebud FC
Australia FC Bulleen Lions
Australia Green Gully SC
Australia South Melbourne FC
Australia Western United
Japan Hokkaido Consadole Sapporo
Japan JEF United Chiba
Malaysia Kuantan FA
Malaysia Negeri Sembilan FA
Malaysia Sime Darby F.C.
Vietnam Hŗ Nội F.C.

Europe   

Albania Flamurtari VlorŽ
Albania Teuta DurrŽs
Azerbaijan NeftÁi
Belgium Charleroi
Belgium Sint-Truiden
Belgium Waasland-Beveren
England Aston Villa (From 2019)
England Leeds United
France Angers
France Bastia (Until 2019)
France AS Monaco (From 2019)
France Lorient
France Orlťans
France Troyes (Until 2019)
Israel Bnei Yehuda
Israel Ironi Kiryat Shmona
Italy Empoli
Italy Napoli
Italy Sassuolo
Italy Torino (Until 2019)
Italy Padova
Northern Ireland Crusaders
North Macedonia Makedonija Gjorče Petrov
North Macedonia Shkupi
Spain Real Betis
Spain Cůrdoba
Spain Cultural Leonesa
Spain Extremadura
Sweden GŲteborg
Wales Bangor City
North America   

Mexico Atlante

Central America   

Costa Rica Deportivo Saprissa
Nicaragua Real EstelŪ

Oceania   

New Zealand Auckland City FC

South America   

Argentina Aldosivi
Argentina Belgrano
Argentina Cipolletti
Argentina Santamarina
Argentina Racing Club
Argentina Vťlez Sarsfield
Brazil Botafogo (From June 2019).
Brazil Remo (From 2020).
Chile Uniůn EspaŮola

Basketball   

National teams   

Argentina Argentina
United Kingdom British Basketball League all teams
Singapore Singapore

Club teams   

France Boulazac Basket Dordogne
France Hermine de Nantes Atlantique
France Le Mans Sarthe Basket
France Basket Lattes Montpellier Agglomťration
Italy Auxilium Pallacanestro Torino (Since the 2018Ė2019 season).
Poland Anwil Włocławek
Serbia KK Metalac Valjevo
South Korea Jeonju KCC Egis

Baseball   

Club teams   

South Korea Lotte Giants

Boxing   

South Africa Moruti Mthalane

Fencing   

National teams   

Italy Federazione Italiana Scherma

Golf


National teams   

Italy Federazione Italiana Golf

Ice hockey   

Czech Republic HC Kometa Brno
Czech Republic HC Energie Karlovy Vary
Czech Republic HC VŪtkovice Steel
Czech Republic HC Stadion Litoměřice
Czech Republic HC Slovan ŕstečtŪ Lvi
Italy Hockey Milano Rossoblu

Field hockey   

National teams   

Malaysia Malaysia

Rowing   

National teams   

Italy Federazione Italiana Canottaggio

Rugby League   

Club teams   

England London Broncos
England Oldham
Canada Toronto Wolfpack
England Bradford Bulls
England Salford Red Devils

Rugby Union   

Club teams   

France Brive
France Montpellier Hťrault Rugby
France Aviron Bayonnais
Italy Benetton
Italy Rovigo
Spain Valladolid RAC
Spain Barcelona Universitari Club
Wales Pontypridd RFC

Volleyball   

Club teams   

Finland Tampereen Isku-Volley

Skiing   

National teams   

Italy Federazione Italiana Sport Invernali
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 22, 2019, 11:48:57 AM
The waistcoat version is an iconic Villa item.

It was made for Partridge to pose in around Paris.

Ice white socks with double cadet stripe.

"The classic English gentleman abroad: It's David Niven. It's Stewart Grainger. It's Nigel Havers. It's a green blazer. The look? 'Imperial Leisure'"
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on May 22, 2019, 02:53:49 PM
The Green away one I loved it I hope they do bring another version out like it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on May 30, 2019, 09:29:11 PM
West Hamís new shirt is available to buy without the sponsor on it. Take note, Villa.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on May 30, 2019, 09:32:48 PM
West Hamís new shirt is available to buy without the sponsor on it. Take note, Villa.

How does that work? You'd think the sponsor wouldn't be happy about this so are the sponsorless shirts sold at a higher price?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: TopDeck113 on May 30, 2019, 09:47:54 PM
Some talk of Kappa also being Everton's kit supplier.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 30, 2019, 10:00:06 PM
West Hamís new shirt is available to buy without the sponsor on it. Take note, Villa.

How does that work? You'd think the sponsor wouldn't be happy about this so are the sponsorless shirts sold at a higher price?

I'd imagine that the sponsors see the value on the shirts the players are wearing on TV, rather than the overweight fans dragging their kids around ASDA!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 30, 2019, 10:13:56 PM
Is 32Red still our sponsor next season? I havenít seen anything in the original announcement suggesting it was more than the one year.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Walmley_Villa on May 31, 2019, 08:23:14 AM
Some talk of Kappa also being Everton's kit supplier.

Signed a new multi-year deal with Umbro in March.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on May 31, 2019, 08:40:48 AM
Why have we never gone back to Umbro since the early 90s? I think they are up there with the best for football kits. That black and white Mita away one was mint!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on May 31, 2019, 09:41:08 AM
Is 32Red still our sponsor next season? I havenít seen anything in the original announcement suggesting it was more than the one year.

Original announcement below, no mention of it being more than a year.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/06/13/32red-become-new-principal-partner
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Gareth on May 31, 2019, 12:00:41 PM
Why have we never gone back to Umbro since the early 90s? I think they are up there with the best for football kits. That black and white Mita away one was mint!
Donít look at the new West Ham kits then - both Umbro and both very nice uses of the colours theyíve stolen!! Particularly the away kit that we will see when they visit Villa Park!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on May 31, 2019, 09:53:26 PM
Why have we never gone back to Umbro since the early 90s? I think they are up there with the best for football kits. That black and white Mita away one was mint!
Donít look at the new West Ham kits then - both Umbro and both very nice uses of the colours theyíve stolen!! Particularly the away kit that we will see when they visit Villa Park!

Very nice
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on May 31, 2019, 10:40:24 PM
Theyíve even got a bloody great lion on the shirt too. Have they no shame.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on May 31, 2019, 10:56:11 PM
Why have we never gone back to Umbro since the early 90s? I think they are up there with the best for football kits. That black and white Mita away one was mint!
Donít look at the new West Ham kits then - both Umbro and both very nice uses of the colours theyíve stolen!! Particularly the away kit that we will see when they visit Villa Park!

Very nice

The home kit is horrid and the away kit is a direct copy of ours from the season just ended!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on May 31, 2019, 10:59:23 PM
Agree that Wham home kit is disgusting. Away is nice but it's... White. With claret trim. Not hard.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on June 01, 2019, 01:15:48 AM
The away one is nice. Stick a
Villa badge on it and Iím guessing 95% of us would be happy with it.

The home one is gash. It looks a bit like an attempt to rip off the 80/81 admiral one, which I always thought was a good one for them.

Whatever Kappa dish up, canít say Iím too excited by the prospect. The Luke kits this season were very well done, but I guess it all comes
Down to dollars in the end. As many have said, if they have it on sale before the start of the season, it will be a bonus for a lot of people.

Bound to have the kappa logo cheaply transferred on to the arms that peels off after three washes
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 02, 2019, 12:44:20 PM
The away one is nice...
The home one is gash. It looks a bit like an attempt to rip off the 80/81 admiral one, which I always thought was a good one for them.

They are both taking inspiration from their Admiral kits of 79/80 in order to mark 40 years since they won the Cup as a Second Division club. 

Just a pity they couldn't have gone a step further and played the anniversary season in the second tier.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: FatSam on June 06, 2019, 10:51:46 PM
Original announcement below, no mention of it being more than a year.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/06/13/32red-become-new-principal-partner

This report (https://www.xxxx.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-new-kit-kappa-16389479) suggests its a three year deal.

I know it's been discussed on here many times before, but why is it that our kit is always released so late in the summer? It happens every time. The big clubs generally all release them early, but so do many other clubs as well. Surely people (although not me) would want to buy them for their summer holidays. It feels like we are missing out on sales.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 07, 2019, 08:19:45 AM
Why have we never gone back to Umbro since the early 90s? I think they are up there with the best for football kits. That black and white Mita away one was mint!
Donít look at the new West Ham kits then - both Umbro and both very nice uses of the colours theyíve stolen!! Particularly the away kit that we will see when they visit Villa Park!

Very nice

The home kit is horrid and the away kit is a direct copy of ours from the season just ended!
Agree and looks like claret shorts.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 08, 2019, 08:08:08 PM
That time of year. Some concepts doing the rounds

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itbjZW4AEkfy_.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itX-SWsAAWht7.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itlfhWwAAHsE6.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8it16GWkAARCS9.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: stussyboy on June 08, 2019, 10:01:58 PM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 08, 2019, 10:09:51 PM
That one is top drawer which means it wonít be anything like it. Maybe a bit more blue on the sleeves but very solid.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on June 08, 2019, 10:12:46 PM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)

Looks more like training gear than a Villa shirt so hope the actual shirt is nothing like that. Would love it if they surprised us and brought the old badge back.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on June 09, 2019, 10:13:43 AM
The sponsor looks fuxking awful, especially that big 'W', thought was reserved for Wanky Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: wozwebs on June 09, 2019, 09:04:17 PM
The cartoon sketches of the kit show it having a blue collar
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on June 09, 2019, 09:18:28 PM
We're not wearing blue shorts, are we?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villan For Life on June 09, 2019, 09:33:39 PM
That time of year. Some concepts doing the rounds

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itbjZW4AEkfy_.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itX-SWsAAWht7.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itlfhWwAAHsE6.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8it16GWkAARCS9.jpg:large)

I like all of those apart from the green and black stripes thing. That looks like a refereeís kit.

They will end up totally different though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on June 09, 2019, 09:37:34 PM
The home one with white shorts would be fine. We had a non traditional kit last year, please can we have the normal one this year?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on June 09, 2019, 09:45:10 PM
Top one with blue sleeves and white shorts would be good. The third with claret shorts would be nice as a modern twist to our heritage 1957 cup winning shirt
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Proposition Joe on June 09, 2019, 10:44:30 PM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)


I'll leave the commenting on this one to Adam Buxton: https://youtu.be/4CskqY3WGuI
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on June 10, 2019, 08:37:15 PM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)


I'll leave the commenting on this one to Adam Buxton: https://youtu.be/4CskqY3WGuI


Claret (not pink, not purple) body, light blue sleeves, white shorts, no daft collars. It's really not difficult.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 11, 2019, 07:16:05 AM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)


I'll leave the commenting on this one to Adam Buxton: https://youtu.be/4CskqY3WGuI


Claret (not pink, not purple) body, light blue sleeves, white shorts, no daft collars. It's really not difficult.
Based on recent attempts, it would appear to be.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on June 11, 2019, 07:27:24 AM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)


I'll leave the commenting on this one to Adam Buxton: https://youtu.be/4CskqY3WGuI

Quite like it.
I like traditional, but, not against something a bit different either. Loved last season's top.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on June 11, 2019, 07:34:01 AM
That time of year. Some concepts doing the rounds

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itbjZW4AEkfy_.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itX-SWsAAWht7.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8itlfhWwAAHsE6.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8it16GWkAARCS9.jpg:large)

Not too keen on the black & green.
Like the other two, although, I do prefer a white away top
White shorts and socks on the top shirt would look much better, too
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sid1964 on June 11, 2019, 07:58:52 AM
By the time they get released, you will be able to buy them as Christmas presents, we do seem to always be very slow releasing our kits.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on June 11, 2019, 08:38:39 AM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)


I'll leave the commenting on this one to Adam Buxton: https://youtu.be/4CskqY3WGuI


Claret (not pink, not purple) body, light blue sleeves, white shorts, no daft collars. It's really not difficult.
Whilst I'm sure most of us agree with that, I think the occaisional change is good for variety, particularly for younger fans.  Look at this years kit.  Many complained there wasn't enough blue on the sleeves, yet for me (and many others I think) it is one of the best kits we've had for years.

So yes, the guiding principal must always be claret body and blue sleeves but in this day and age there will always be some spin on that and for me that's a good thing.  With that said, I dislike the pic above enormously!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 11, 2019, 08:53:29 AM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)


I'll leave the commenting on this one to Adam Buxton: https://youtu.be/4CskqY3WGuI


Claret (not pink, not purple) body, light blue sleeves, white shorts, no daft collars. It's really not difficult.
Whilst I'm sure most of us agree with that, I think the occaisional change is good for variety, particularly for younger fans.  Look at this years kit.  Many complained there wasn't enough blue on the sleeves, yet for me (and many others I think) it is one of the best kits we've had for years.

So yes, the guiding principal must always be claret body and blue sleeves but in this day and age there will always be some spin on that and for me that's a good thing.  With that said, I dislike the pic above enormously!

Agreed, don't like anything about that except for the round badge.

It looks like West Ham's kit this season, and that is no good thing. Ever, tbh.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on June 11, 2019, 08:59:14 AM
By the time they get released, you will be able to buy them as Christmas presents, we do seem to always be very slow releasing our kits.
Mid July before the first friendly reported. Would be nice to have them ready for start of kids summer hols though to be able to wear them away
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on June 11, 2019, 09:01:01 AM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)


I'll leave the commenting on this one to Adam Buxton: https://youtu.be/4CskqY3WGuI


Claret (not pink, not purple) body, light blue sleeves, white shorts, no daft collars. It's really not difficult.
Whilst I'm sure most of us agree with that, I think the occaisional change is good for variety, particularly for younger fans.  Look at this years kit.  Many complained there wasn't enough blue on the sleeves, yet for me (and many others I think) it is one of the best kits we've had for years.

So yes, the guiding principal must always be claret body and blue sleeves but in this day and age there will always be some spin on that and for me that's a good thing.  With that said, I dislike the pic above enormously!

You had your wacky kit this year, it's my turn this year. And who says I'm not one of our younger fans? I'm definitely younger than Brian Green.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 11, 2019, 09:04:29 AM
I think the big W is quite apt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on June 11, 2019, 09:48:47 AM
You had your wacky kit this year, it's my turn this year. And who says I'm not one of our younger fans? I'm definitely younger than Brian Green.

How would you feel if we recreated this kit for a season?

(https://i.ibb.co/G277f8D/1957.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G277f8D)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on June 11, 2019, 09:52:14 AM
Although maybe they should save that for the season after we next win the FA cup.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 11, 2019, 10:43:40 AM
You had your wacky kit this year, it's my turn this year. And who says I'm not one of our younger fans? I'm definitely younger than Brian Green.

How would you feel if we recreated this kit for a season?

(https://i.ibb.co/G277f8D/1957.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G277f8D)


That's fine... as an away kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on June 11, 2019, 10:45:19 AM
You had your wacky kit this year, it's my turn this year. And who says I'm not one of our younger fans? I'm definitely younger than Brian Green.


How would you feel if we recreated this kit for a season?

(https://i.ibb.co/G277f8D/1957.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G277f8D)


That's fine... as an away kit.

Good answer... is that an original?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on June 11, 2019, 11:11:36 AM
You had your wacky kit this year, it's my turn this year. And who says I'm not one of our younger fans? I'm definitely younger than Brian Green.


How would you feel if we recreated this kit for a season?

(https://i.ibb.co/G277f8D/1957.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G277f8D)


That's fine... as an away kit.

Good answer... is that an original?
That's Peter McParland with his shirt - just got the image from google.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on June 11, 2019, 11:15:15 AM
Aah!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on June 11, 2019, 11:59:08 AM
You had your wacky kit this year, it's my turn this year. And who says I'm not one of our younger fans? I'm definitely younger than Brian Green.
Thatís why I liked the version of the modern twist on this thread earlier

How would you feel if we recreated this kit for a season?

(https://i.ibb.co/G277f8D/1957.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G277f8D)

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 11, 2019, 02:32:13 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8yHxccXoAMcvt-.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Proposition Joe on June 11, 2019, 03:04:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8yHxccXoAMcvt-.jpg:large)

Hehe, the critique of this one I will leave to Butthead: https://youtu.be/D0m-3glcmbE

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 11, 2019, 03:45:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8yHxccXoAMcvt-.jpg:large)

Hehe, the critique of this one I will leave to Butthead: https://youtu.be/D0m-3glcmbE



Oh dear no

I did not mind it first time round but nowadays it look shite
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 11, 2019, 04:44:09 PM
Thatís just a fuck up of a fucked up original.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cheltenhamlion on June 11, 2019, 06:10:43 PM
Like this concept, especially the old badge:

(https://i.ibb.co/bRWP8dy/2-B08-C6-FA-7513-43-CF-AEC6-80-AF8-DE3-D744.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bRWP8dy)


I'll leave the commenting on this one to Adam Buxton: https://youtu.be/4CskqY3WGuI


Claret (not pink, not purple) body, light blue sleeves, white shorts, no daft collars. It's really not difficult.
Whilst I'm sure most of us agree with that, I think the occaisional change is good for variety, particularly for younger fans.  Look at this years kit.  Many complained there wasn't enough blue on the sleeves, yet for me (and many others I think) it is one of the best kits we've had for years.

So yes, the guiding principal must always be claret body and blue sleeves but in this day and age there will always be some spin on that and for me that's a good thing.  With that said, I dislike the pic above enormously!

You had your wacky kit this year, it's my turn this year. And who says I'm not one of our younger fans? I'm definitely younger than Brian Green.

The blokes on the D-Day programmes last week are younger than Brian!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on June 11, 2019, 08:19:57 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8yHxccXoAMcvt-.jpg:large)

Hehe, the critique of this one I will leave to Butthead: https://youtu.be/D0m-3glcmbE



Oh dear no

I did not mind it first time round but nowadays it look shite

Dear God, no.
That is awful, didn't like it first time either.
However, the away one (pale blue and white) was quite nice
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Grande Pablo on June 11, 2019, 11:43:33 PM
(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62236584_929953394012128_8313589807695527936_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=9b7e7ba4eb24c512869837c8cab98d6b&oe=5D7F0DD9)

New Tunisia change shirt.  Anyone up for a ghosted lion obliterated with a giant W88 logo?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on June 12, 2019, 12:03:01 AM
A glimpse of the training top...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8z1lavXsAEgRJK.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: aldridgeboy on June 12, 2019, 02:21:24 AM
That looks really nice.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on June 12, 2019, 04:18:44 AM
Just been to have a look in Rebel Sport in Brisbane CBD.
Both Chelsea and Celtic 19/20 shirts are already prominently on display and well stocked.

Just sayin...

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 12, 2019, 09:05:11 AM
A glimpse of the training top...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8z1lavXsAEgRJK.jpg:large)

He looks like he's hanging.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on June 12, 2019, 12:58:05 PM
(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62236584_929953394012128_8313589807695527936_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=9b7e7ba4eb24c512869837c8cab98d6b&oe=5D7F0DD9)

New Tunisia change shirt.  Anyone up for a ghosted lion obliterated with a giant W88 logo?

Without obliteration maybe. Thinking of which what are the rules re: exactly where a sponsor logo has to go?

If there was something like a big shirt lion, Iíd have a lot more respect (and possibly interest/publicity for them) if they shifted a logo eg bottom left rather than middle middle of the front of shirt?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on June 13, 2019, 02:16:27 PM

Without obliteration maybe. Thinking of which what are the rules re: exactly where a sponsor logo has to go?

If there was something like a big shirt lion, Iíd have a lot more respect (and possibly interest/publicity for them) if they shifted a logo eg bottom left rather than middle middle of the front of shirt?

As you would probably expect, it's highly controlled as to where a logo can go, and the size etc:

A GUIDE TO THE FA KIT AND ADVERTISING REGULATIONSwww.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/.../the-fa-guide-to-kit-advertising-regulations-2017-18.as... (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwj8ta-ZxObiAhUConEKHYqwCJYQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefa.com%2F-%2Fmedia%2Fcfa%2Fderbyshirefa%2Ffiles%2Fthe-fa-guide-to-kit-advertising-regulations-2017-18.ashx&usg=AOvVaw0XBujpQVYPHnUx2iayRrcN)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on June 14, 2019, 04:28:21 PM
(https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62236584_929953394012128_8313589807695527936_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=9b7e7ba4eb24c512869837c8cab98d6b&oe=5D7F0DD9)

New Tunisia change shirt.  Anyone up for a ghosted lion obliterated with a giant W88 logo?

The top Jack was photographed in gives me cause for hope, this simply fills me with despair.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 14, 2019, 05:40:56 PM

Without obliteration maybe. Thinking of which what are the rules re: exactly where a sponsor logo has to go?

If there was something like a big shirt lion, Iíd have a lot more respect (and possibly interest/publicity for them) if they shifted a logo eg bottom left rather than middle middle of the front of shirt?

As you would probably expect, it's highly controlled as to where a logo can go, and the size etc:

A GUIDE TO THE FA KIT AND ADVERTISING REGULATIONSwww.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/.../the-fa-guide-to-kit-advertising-regulations-2017-18.as... (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwj8ta-ZxObiAhUConEKHYqwCJYQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefa.com%2F-%2Fmedia%2Fcfa%2Fderbyshirefa%2Ffiles%2Fthe-fa-guide-to-kit-advertising-regulations-2017-18.ashx&usg=AOvVaw0XBujpQVYPHnUx2iayRrcN)

Iíll pass thanks. I donít think I can take any more excitement after your post on work permit rules.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on June 15, 2019, 12:49:27 AM

Without obliteration maybe. Thinking of which what are the rules re: exactly where a sponsor logo has to go?

If there was something like a big shirt lion, Iíd have a lot more respect (and possibly interest/publicity for them) if they shifted a logo eg bottom left rather than middle middle of the front of shirt?

As you would probably expect, it's highly controlled as to where a logo can go, and the size etc:

A GUIDE TO THE FA KIT AND ADVERTISING REGULATIONSwww.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/.../the-fa-guide-to-kit-advertising-regulations-2017-18.as... (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwj8ta-ZxObiAhUConEKHYqwCJYQFjAAegQIBhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefa.com%2F-%2Fmedia%2Fcfa%2Fderbyshirefa%2Ffiles%2Fthe-fa-guide-to-kit-advertising-regulations-2017-18.ashx&usg=AOvVaw0XBujpQVYPHnUx2iayRrcN)
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Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 28, 2019, 08:17:00 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/TYHNJkD/utv-x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gmDcQ3b)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on June 28, 2019, 08:26:19 PM
Well that looks hideous
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 28, 2019, 08:26:37 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-K34w2XsAExmYf.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on June 28, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
Christ that looks like Wolverhampton kit with a Villa Badge sewn on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on June 28, 2019, 08:29:24 PM
They are just training tops, whatís wrong with that?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 28, 2019, 08:30:36 PM
I reckon someone was drunk when they designed the one JP posted. How many different colours randomly added? it looks like some weird cheap foreign knock off of a Manure top.

And the one I posted makes us look like Derby.

They may not be real ones mind.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: four fornicholl on June 28, 2019, 08:31:54 PM
Where's the fucking daddy?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 28, 2019, 08:33:29 PM
And it's been said that they are concept kits for the U21s, nothing to do with the first team.

Although that may be bollocks as well.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 28, 2019, 08:46:46 PM
Theyíre fine. Stop being so old and grumpy. They look like training kits. I just want a traditional home kit again. I donít really mind some creativity with the away.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on June 28, 2019, 08:48:00 PM
Theyíre fine. Stop being so old and grumpy. They look like training kits. I just want a traditional home kit again. I donít really mind some creativity with the away.

Yep , this is for me too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 28, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
And most importantly the first team kits will have a PL badge on it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on June 28, 2019, 09:03:44 PM
They look like jimjams.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on June 28, 2019, 09:09:32 PM
The white one reminds me of the 89/90 away shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on June 28, 2019, 09:19:02 PM
As training tops they're exactly what you'd expect, fine by me. I actually quite like the monotone badge on the white one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 28, 2019, 11:00:59 PM
I couldn't give a fuck what they wear on the training ground.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on June 29, 2019, 01:03:00 AM
I couldn't give a fuck what they wear on the training ground.
I couldn't give a fuck what they wear on the training ground.

I think that was the working title for 'I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor'.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 29, 2019, 01:20:08 AM
I couldn't give a fuck what they wear on the training ground.

I couldn't either.

But they look shite.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 30, 2019, 10:37:04 AM
I couldn't give a fuck what they wear on the training ground.

Well I'd like to think that what they wear at Bodymoor Heath has some resemblance to what they'll wear on the pitch. Kappa gimp masks, leather codpieces and 9" stilettos might float some people's boats, but I doubt they will help much when preparing for a season opener at Spurs. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on June 30, 2019, 11:30:34 AM
Hope the actual kit doesn't have those Kappa twins on the shoulders
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on June 30, 2019, 07:06:07 PM
I couldn't give a fuck what they wear on the training ground.

Well I'd like to think that what they wear at Bodymoor Heath has some resemblance to what they'll wear on the pitch. Kappa gimp masks, leather codpieces and 9" stilettos might float some people's boats, but I doubt they will help much when preparing for a season opener at Spurs. 

In fairness, it would probably confuse them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on June 30, 2019, 10:29:16 PM
Hope the actual kit doesn't have those Kappa twins on the shoulders

I think youíll find they will, if that teaser launch video is anything to go by.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 30, 2019, 10:34:43 PM
It could be worse. I remember seeing the Djemba twins in a Villa shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on June 30, 2019, 10:57:05 PM
Hope the actual kit doesn't have those Kappa twins on the shoulders

I think it's their logo, mate. I'd imagine it'll be there somewhere. I just hope it's a nice kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 30, 2019, 10:59:43 PM
I think he means on the sleeves like this. If we do I hope they are sturdier than the Macron men were.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1175/1708/products/12807_5bade4a20854d_0_1538122914_2048x.jpg?v=1538476514)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on June 30, 2019, 11:02:42 PM
Ah, I see. Yes, I hope we don't have them, either. Though it seems recently that Kappa are putting them down the sides of kits, rather than in the shoulders. I could well be wrong, though
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on June 30, 2019, 11:16:01 PM
Could be a single Kappa logo on the sleeves and obviously one on the chest (as per Leeds last season).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 30, 2019, 11:38:53 PM
Hope the actual kit doesn't have those Kappa twins on the shoulders

Why wouldnít they?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 01, 2019, 02:56:23 AM
It's a link to a Leeds site but Kappa seem to be keeping their branding subtle in most of their 2019-2020 kits (https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-kit-release-kappa-16448653).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 01, 2019, 07:58:03 AM
It's a link to a Leeds site but Kappa seem to be keeping their branding subtle in most of their 2019-2020 kits (https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-kit-release-kappa-16448653).

My favourite from those is the Western United Australian League one which funnily is the only one with the Kappa logo in the centre as they have the league badge on one side of the chest over there, ho hum.

But so long as they get the colours right I'll be reasonably content.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 01, 2019, 08:17:10 AM
Hope the actual kit doesn't have those Kappa twins on the shoulders

Why wouldnít they?

I've always thought they look crap
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 01, 2019, 09:31:24 AM
Looking at all the kappa ones from other clubs, maybe we canít rule out stripes?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 01, 2019, 09:59:22 AM
Hope the actual kit doesn't have those Kappa twins on the shoulders

Why wouldnít they?

I've always thought they look crap

And eighties and a bit creepy.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 01, 2019, 10:23:14 AM
How are Western Union having an inaugural season and celebrating their 100th anniversary at the same time?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 01, 2019, 10:24:09 AM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 01, 2019, 10:27:18 AM
I like that one. It's mad.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 01, 2019, 10:30:35 AM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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dear lord I am tripping
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 01, 2019, 10:37:29 AM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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dear lord I am tripping

All I see are chazwazzas.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 01, 2019, 03:06:38 PM
Our kit releases take too long. It really should be out by now. Out as in available to buy. Please sort it out Villa, its frustrating.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 01, 2019, 03:23:32 PM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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dear lord I am tripping

All I see are chazwazzas.

Is there a tech wizz out there that could replace green with claret and black with blue?
Just curious as to what it would look like  :)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 01, 2019, 03:24:05 PM
We always like to wait until summer is over. Everyone knows the best time to sell sorts and T-shirts is when it's cold and raining.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 01, 2019, 03:38:06 PM
We always like to wait until summer is over. Everyone knows the best time to sell sorts and T-shirts is when it's cold and raining.

To echo this and Smirker above, very true. We're poor in this area. Doesn't matter to me as I probably won't be buying it this year - happy with my Luke shirt last year which has stood the test of time as something I think is really smart and well-made, in spite of the lack of blue sleeves. However the club is missing a trick on revenue here and people like myself or those on the fence about needing to part with another £60/Ä70 might have been swayed by a smart kit released early in the summer.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 01, 2019, 04:00:56 PM
We always like to wait until summer is over. Everyone knows the best time to sell sorts and T-shirts is when it's cold and raining.

Better still, make sure that whatever kids stock you have is sold out and unobtainable in time for the Xmas rush.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on July 01, 2019, 04:32:05 PM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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dear lord I am tripping

All I see are chazwazzas.

Is there a tech wizz out there that could replace green with claret and black with blue?
Just curious as to what it would look like  :)

Green and white in the body with 2 shades of claret and the black and white on the sides with 2 shades of blue (a bit like the checked shirt we had a few years ago). Then a stylised lion in the bottom right (where they have a w). I'm not sure but I think it could look pretty good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 01, 2019, 04:32:36 PM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
<


dear lord I am tripping

All I see are chazwazzas.

Is there a tech wizz out there that could replace green with claret and black with blue?
Just curious as to what it would look like  :)

Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 01, 2019, 04:34:28 PM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
<


dear lord I am tripping

All I see are chazwazzas.

Is there a tech wizz out there that could replace green with claret and black with blue?
Just curious as to what it would look like  :)

Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)


I just threw up a little. In my mouth.

Nice pshop job all the same though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 01, 2019, 04:43:21 PM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
<


dear lord I am tripping

All I see are chazwazzas.

Is there a tech wizz out there that could replace green with claret and black with blue?
Just curious as to what it would look like  :)

Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)

Flippin' heck, bud, well done.

I am a little lost for words on seeing it, though  ;D
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on July 01, 2019, 04:44:23 PM
Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)


As I said, create another claret tone that's a few shades darker to replace the white in the body and then another blue tone that's a shade or 2 darker to replace the white on the arms, then replace the white shoulders with one of the blue tones.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 01, 2019, 04:51:44 PM
Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)


As I said, create another claret tone that's a few shades darker to replace the white in the body and then another blue tone that's a shade or 2 darker to replace the white on the arms, then replace the white shoulders with one of the blue tones.
I'd develop this a little further, replace the white in the body with exactly the same claret and the white on the arms and shoulders with exactly the same blue.  Then it will be much better.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on July 01, 2019, 04:55:30 PM
Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)


As I said, create another claret tone that's a few shades darker to replace the white in the body and then another blue tone that's a shade or 2 darker to replace the white on the arms, then replace the white shoulders with one of the blue tones.
I'd develop this a little further, replace the white in the body with exactly the same claret and the white on the arms and shoulders with exactly the same blue.  Then it will be much better.

Well yes, but that's really not the point here is it. That said I get tradition and the calls fo claret body and blue arms but I think there's got to be some room to add touches to that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 01, 2019, 05:14:24 PM
Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)


As I said, create another claret tone that's a few shades darker to replace the white in the body and then another blue tone that's a shade or 2 darker to replace the white on the arms, then replace the white shoulders with one of the blue tones.
I'd develop this a little further, replace the white in the body with exactly the same claret and the white on the arms and shoulders with exactly the same blue.  Then it will be much better.

Well yes, but that's really not the point here is it. That said I get tradition and the calls fo claret body and blue arms but I think there's got to be some room to add touches to that.

I agree, paul, I like the traditional with a slight twist. Have to admit, i loved last seasons top.
This design, as an away top pale blue and white, wouldn't be too bad.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 01, 2019, 05:19:14 PM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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dear lord I am tripping

All I see are chazwazzas.

Is there a tech wizz out there that could replace green with claret and black with blue?
Just curious as to what it would look like  :)

Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)

Flippin' heck, bud, well done.

I am a little lost for words on seeing it, though  ;D

nice dress for the ladies
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 01, 2019, 05:20:57 PM
That kit looks like Risso drew it on MS Paint.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on July 01, 2019, 05:26:48 PM
Well yes, but that's really not the point here is it. That said I get tradition and the calls fo claret body and blue arms but I think there's got to be some room to add touches to that.

I agree, paul, I like the traditional with a slight twist. Have to admit, i loved last seasons top.
This design, as an away top pale blue and white, wouldn't be too bad.

Using a sunday league style kit builder (because I don't have photoshop to be able to do it with the one that was linked) I got this, which is the sort of thing I'm getting at:

(https://i.ibb.co/cQSss22/kit.png) (https://ibb.co/cQSss22)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 01, 2019, 07:18:28 PM
just please nothing like this one


(https://i.ibb.co/KVhXD7b/0-Kappa-kits-Western-United-away.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
<


dear lord I am tripping

All I see are chazwazzas.

Is there a tech wizz out there that could replace green with claret and black with blue?
Just curious as to what it would look like  :)

Be very bloody careful what you wish for.


(https://i.ibb.co/xmRDVb5/av.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmRDVb5)

Flippin' heck, bud, well done.

I am a little lost for words on seeing it, though  ;D

nice dress for the ladies

At least it, sort of, has blue sleeves.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 01, 2019, 07:47:42 PM
How are Western Union having an inaugural season and celebrating their 100th anniversary at the same time?

Time is relative
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 01, 2019, 10:41:00 PM
If our new kit is anywhere close to how good the new Arsenal kit is, we will be happy.
Their new kit is perfect (for Arse)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 01, 2019, 10:54:05 PM
If our new kit is anywhere close to how good the new Arsenal kit is, we will be happy.
Their new kit is perfect (for Arse)

Almost perfect. The design is great but the colour is wrong, it's a blood orange or something? Hard to describe.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 01, 2019, 11:06:41 PM
https://twitter.com/gaygooners/status/1145759632150974464?s=21

If I were an Arsenal fan, Iíd be more than happy with the colour and design.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 01, 2019, 11:33:19 PM
The Arsenal kit is a solid design and literally a Villa kit just waiting to happen
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 01, 2019, 11:50:19 PM
That would be a thing of beauty in claret and blue.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 02, 2019, 08:54:19 AM
The new Arsenal kit is pretty much their 1988 kit with the "new"/shit adidas logo on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 02, 2019, 09:07:09 AM
The new Arsenal kit is pretty much their 1988 kit with the "new"/shit adidas logo on.

Aye, now that you say it, spot on. Hence the weird shade of blood orange.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 02, 2019, 09:53:14 AM
The new Arsenal kit is pretty much their 1988 kit with the "new"/shit adidas logo on.
I guess there's only so much you can do with the 'red body white sleeves' brief.  I'd be pretty happy with a claret & blue version of their new kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 02, 2019, 09:54:34 AM
Well yes, but that's really not the point here is it. That said I get tradition and the calls fo claret body and blue arms but I think there's got to be some room to add touches to that.

I agree, paul, I like the traditional with a slight twist. Have to admit, i loved last seasons top.
This design, as an away top pale blue and white, wouldn't be too bad.

Using a sunday league style kit builder (because I don't have photoshop to be able to do it with the one that was linked) I got this, which is the sort of thing I'm getting at:

(https://i.ibb.co/cQSss22/kit.png) (https://ibb.co/cQSss22)





that will be £75 please
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 02, 2019, 10:32:02 AM
The Arsenal kit is a solid design and literally a Villa kit just waiting to happen

That is exactly what our kit should look like but obviously in claret (not purple or pink) and light blue. With white shorts (I'm sure I read earlier there's a suggestion of blue this year.)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 02, 2019, 02:12:06 PM
If the launch is tomorrow then they have done really well to keep it a complete secret until now

Not a single leak to date
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 02, 2019, 02:25:16 PM
If the launch is tomorrow then they have done really well to keep it a complete secret until now

Not a single leak to date

Compared to photos of Wesley all over the Clickbait Mail and antisocial media but not on the official website.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 02, 2019, 02:32:56 PM
Has the release date been confirmed?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 02, 2019, 02:36:27 PM
Havenít seen a kit launch date confirmed either.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Arsey on July 02, 2019, 05:04:44 PM
training tops???

(https://i.ibb.co/xjcY7nK/D9-CB98-AF-3017-47-F9-97-F2-64945-BCD4262.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xjcY7nK)

(https://i.ibb.co/1Zqc0ZB/BEFA5066-6158-40-A3-8-C61-E87-A700-D8483.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1Zqc0ZB)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 02, 2019, 05:45:50 PM
Here goes: 😍😂🤐😤😖🤯😬😭🤪😱🥵🤬😷🤧😇🤓🧐🤭🤥🤥🤢🥴🙄

Should cover it
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 02, 2019, 06:02:18 PM
If the launch is tomorrow then they have done really well to keep it a complete secret until now

Not a single leak to date

Compared to photos of Wesley all over the Clickbait Mail and antisocial media but not on the official website.

Care to share?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 02, 2019, 06:06:35 PM
Here goes: 😍😂🤐😤😖🤯😬😭🤪😱🥵🤬😷🤧😇🤓🧐🤭🤥🤥🤢🥴🙄

Should cover it
You missed

💩🤮💥😍
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 02, 2019, 06:45:08 PM
New Braga third kit. Fucking hell immediately came to mind

(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1146089443037712384/BDJJP8gI?format=jpg&name=600x314)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 02, 2019, 06:47:14 PM
If those are genuine pics of the training kits posted by Arsey then my first impression is that the claret looks good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 02, 2019, 06:47:41 PM
training gear?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-fBYSZXsAAwepW.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-fBYSaX4AEtjqM.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 02, 2019, 06:52:08 PM
That kit looks like Risso drew it on MS Paint.

Where's the wheelchairs?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Three Spires Villa on July 02, 2019, 07:04:12 PM
Like the claret top
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 02, 2019, 07:33:07 PM
Like the claret top

If it was claret.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: tomd2103 on July 02, 2019, 08:15:19 PM
training gear?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-fBYSZXsAAwepW.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-fBYSaX4AEtjqM.jpg)

Imagine so TV, mainly because of the badge.  The track suit top Jack Grealish was pictured in the other day had the proper badge on so can only imagine the kit will (the home kit anyway).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 02, 2019, 09:58:53 PM
The navy training top Wes is wearing is lovely
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 02, 2019, 11:15:36 PM
Not the best quality picture, but this purports to be a leak of the new kits.
If it is....whereís my credit card, I need to buy that home shirt quick.

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1146179446317232128?s=21
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on July 02, 2019, 11:23:19 PM
Uruguay style away top in that concept.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 02, 2019, 11:24:50 PM
They all look good, albeit maybe the sponsor would look better if it wasn't bright red on the third kit.

Hope they turn out to be true and we have proper Villa home shirts again. That's the main thing.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on July 02, 2019, 11:41:13 PM
Away kit is nice too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 02, 2019, 11:45:34 PM
A lot depends on quality for me. This year's kit is the most solid we've had in years. Something makes me think this kappa gear won't be as good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2019, 12:09:38 AM
I was just wondering how often we would have to wear our third strip and thought of checking the other claret and blues in the top flight.

Burnley shirt seems nice enough, though I'm not sure about the collar. Or getting Ashley Westwood to model it...

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/news/2019/july/burnley-fc-umbro-home-kit-201920/

As for West Ham, oh Mother Brown that's fucking shite...

https://www.officialwesthamstore.com/kits/home-kit-201920/
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 12:43:19 AM
I'd imagine a lot of West Ham fans really like it as it's based on one of their old kits.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2019, 12:55:40 AM
Doesn't surprise me to be honest. They're the only team that consistently produces worse Villa kits that Villa do.

Burnley usually get the template right, to be fair.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 01:17:48 AM
Yeah Burnley do have some decent kits.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 03, 2019, 02:34:53 AM
Not the best quality picture, but this purports to be a leak of the new kits.
If it is....whereís my credit card, I need to buy that home shirt quick.

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1146179446317232128?s=21
Someone else further down posted another image of the away which looks to be a very pale blue with claret, and may be a nod to the 1988 away shirt...

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulkiernan16/status/1146211775215484930/photo/1
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villadelph on July 03, 2019, 03:40:50 AM
What ever happened to the long sleeve option? I always went for it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 03, 2019, 03:55:11 AM
As for West Ham, oh Mother Brown that's fucking shite...

https://www.officialwesthamstore.com/kits/home-kit-201920/

The away kit is very nice, just retro enough, and I like having the long sleeve option.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 03, 2019, 07:11:19 AM
Okay that away kit is actually very smart.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 03, 2019, 07:14:04 AM
Having a big W is an obvious reference point.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 03, 2019, 09:09:54 AM
Away one is nice to look at, if a true image. And I like how theyíve managed to change the badge, so that it has a bit of contrast. The current one looks shit in true colour, but pretty good in one colour.

Just worry a bit about the fit (Iím a fuller figure these days!) and the quality. Imagine the kappa transfers will be peeling off in the 2nd wash.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on July 03, 2019, 09:13:22 AM
If they're right the away kit is really nice and I think the 3rd kit could end up being one that's well remembered as marmite.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: tomd2103 on July 03, 2019, 09:17:15 AM
Having a big W is an obvious reference point.

It's the sponsor Wolves had last season isn't it?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 03, 2019, 09:46:48 AM
Having a big W is an obvious reference point.

It's the sponsor Wolves had last season isn't it?

Correct
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2019, 02:16:44 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/ZShf9bQ/694-BEFC1-21-CA-49-C3-8506-86-D80-BE27-C86.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZShf9bQ)


But closer look at what could be the away kit. If it is, well itís rather lovely
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on July 03, 2019, 02:20:50 PM
Yep, that's either a great kit or a truly fantastic mock-up.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 03, 2019, 02:35:26 PM
If it is that, Iíve got a semi.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2019, 05:46:55 PM
I hope that's it, so it won't be.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2019, 05:48:01 PM
Anyway. Any chance of getting the fuck on with it?

How about maybe signing kit and sponsorship deals that last more than one season for once so we can have next year's kit out at a reasonable time, for once?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 05:50:49 PM
It's decent but as soon as I look at it I can't help but think it looks like a recent Blackburn shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: SaddVillan on July 03, 2019, 05:55:23 PM
I was just wondering how often we would have to wear our third strip and thought of checking the other claret and blues in the top flight.

Burnley shirt seems nice enough, though I'm not sure about the collar. Or getting Ashley Westwood to model it...

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/news/2019/july/burnley-fc-umbro-home-kit-201920/

As for West Ham, oh Mother Brown that's fucking shite...

https://www.officialwesthamstore.com/kits/home-kit-201920/

What's the West Ham shirt doing with a Lion Rampant on the left sleeve?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 03, 2019, 06:00:09 PM
I like that new West Ham home kit.

The lion on the sleeve looks like the 'sleeve sponsor' logo.

That rumoured away kit up above looks absolutely superb. So it won't be real.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 06:00:46 PM
What's the West Ham shirt doing with a Lion Rampant on the left sleeve?

It's the logo of the West Ham sleeve sponsors.

(https://www.whufc.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/BASSETWEBSITE726.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 03, 2019, 06:01:55 PM
I like that new West Ham home kit.

The lion on the sleeve looks like the 'sleeve sponsor' logo.

That rumoured away kit up above looks absolutely superb. So it won't be real.

I'd like the "leaked" away kit more if it was just a solid colour, rather than the half and half.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 06:02:49 PM
I like that new West Ham home kit.

The lion on the sleeve looks like the 'sleeve sponsor' logo.

That rumoured away kit up above looks absolutely superb. So it won't be real.

I don't mind the West Ham kit as it's retro style and most of their fans probably love it

(https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_912,h_516,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/shape/cover/sport/trevor-brooking-west-ham-united-1979-5cee7f795f2984d21a000001.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 06:19:44 PM
A better look at the training tops

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-i0BwNWsAAeVoT.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-iz3zSX4AAbp5A.jpg)

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on July 03, 2019, 06:20:52 PM
Are we back for pre-season then?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 06:21:37 PM
Are we back for pre-season then?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-jBEGdXYAE7nQB.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on July 03, 2019, 06:24:18 PM
Not many there! Elmo and Jimmy missing too. We need more players!

Smithy is asking them which one of them brought their dad along!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 03, 2019, 06:25:43 PM
I like that new West Ham home kit.

The lion on the sleeve looks like the 'sleeve sponsor' logo.

That rumoured away kit up above looks absolutely superb. So it won't be real.

I don't mind the West Ham kit as it's retro style and most of their fans probably love it

(https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_912,h_516,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/shape/cover/sport/trevor-brooking-west-ham-united-1979-5cee7f795f2984d21a000001.jpg)

It was my brothers first kit as a kid, I'm sure they'll all love it
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 03, 2019, 06:26:40 PM
Not many there! Elmo and Jimmy missing too. We need more players!

Anything beats that image of Steve Bruce from last summer. "Now as you all know, we're selling anyone with talent. Hands up if you're shit and you know it - we'll run a few drills on how to play football with absolutely no direction whatsoever."
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 03, 2019, 07:55:44 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/ZShf9bQ/694-BEFC1-21-CA-49-C3-8506-86-D80-BE27-C86.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZShf9bQ)


But closer look at what could be the away kit. If it is, well itís rather lovely
Looks very nice if it is genuinely the away kit particularly with the single colour badge.

The training kits are looking very good too, so fingers crossed the home kit also delivers (even though it will still have the current crap badge on it).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 08:19:11 PM
(even though it will still have the current crap badge on it).

5th best badge in the league.

Quote
Basic? Yes. A modern reinvention of an older, more iconic badge that didn't need changing? Also yes. But the key thing with Aston Villa's badge (a sincere welcome back to the Premier League, by the way, to one of the biggest clubs in the world) is that they have the perfect lion. The heraldic lion is massively overused in football badges and there are a couple of shameful interpretations of it on this very list (cough, Burnley, cough, Chelsea).

The Villa lion is everything the heraldic lion should be, however. For a start, it's a golden yellow. You know. The colour of lions. Second of all, it's actually rampant, and fierce, like a lion, rather than resembling a kind of drowzy, confused badger stood up on its hind legs scavaging through some rubbish bags in a skip. It has its claws out. It has its teeth and massive jaw showing. In a fight between all the animals that appear on all the Premier League club badges the Villa lion would tear everything else to shreds. Just look at it. Do you think Watford's sadboi moose and Leicester City's existential angst fox are standing a chance against that fucker? Think again.

The lone star - representing Villa's European Cup win in 1982 - and using the abbreviation of 'AVFC' rather than the full name of the team are also underrated touches.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 03, 2019, 08:38:07 PM
I don't have an issue with our rampant lion...it's the best we've had for a long time in terms of design. It's the shield, type font and weak colour scheme that I have a problem with. Put the current rampant lion in the old circle badge and it would be perfect.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 03, 2019, 08:50:14 PM
I don't have an issue with our rampant lion...it's the best we've had for a long time in terms of design. It's the shield, type font and weak colour scheme that I have a problem with. Put the current rampant lion in the old circle badge and it would be perfect.

Just the rampant lion, as late 60's early 70's, would be my choice, or similar to '57.

Have to admit I do like the mono version of our current badge
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 03, 2019, 08:56:24 PM
For anyone interested Badges ranked (https://www.joe.co.uk/football/the-definitive-ranking-of-premier-league-badges-235607)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 03, 2019, 09:06:24 PM
For anyone interested Badges ranked (https://www.joe.co.uk/football/the-definitive-ranking-of-premier-league-badges-235607)

Ooh, just missed out on a Champions League place!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 03, 2019, 09:15:49 PM
Not bloody Thursday night matches.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 03, 2019, 10:02:41 PM
The fact that the font in our badge is a recut of a typeface called Chelsea Studio should tell you what a half-arsed job we made of it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: brentastonb6 on July 04, 2019, 12:23:37 AM
What's the West Ham shirt doing with a Lion Rampant on the left sleeve?

It's the logo of the West Ham sleeve sponsors.

(https://www.whufc.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/BASSETWEBSITE726.jpg)

Thatís funny Arnoutavic promoting it .
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 04, 2019, 01:22:45 AM
Thatís their kit from last season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2019, 02:10:07 AM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 04, 2019, 12:05:48 PM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.

That shirt sleeve sponsor basically sell extremely dodgy looking bonds.  It looks very, very, very dodgy indeed.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 04, 2019, 12:28:41 PM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.

That shirt sleeve sponsor basically sell extremely dodgy looking bonds.  It looks very, very, very dodgy indeed.

Yes but it's a rampant lion.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 04, 2019, 12:44:37 PM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.

That shirt sleeve sponsor basically sell extremely dodgy looking bonds.  It looks very, very, very dodgy indeed.

Yes but it's a rampant lion.

Heraldry Pedant Alert

I think youíll find itís a Lion Rampant


Iíll get my coat.....
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 04, 2019, 12:45:17 PM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.

That shirt sleeve sponsor basically sell extremely dodgy looking bonds.  It looks very, very, very dodgy indeed.

Dodgy?  West Ham? 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 04, 2019, 12:45:49 PM
Hard to believe, I know.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 04, 2019, 12:46:52 PM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.

That shirt sleeve sponsor basically sell extremely dodgy looking bonds.  It looks very, very, very dodgy indeed.

I'll take ONE THOUSAND of them!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 04, 2019, 01:56:22 PM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.

That shirt sleeve sponsor basically sell extremely dodgy looking bonds.  It looks very, very, very dodgy indeed.

Yes but it's a rampant lion.

Heraldry Pedant Alert

I think youíll find itís a Lion Rampant


Iíll get my coat.....

No need, I am an enthusiastic pedant myself.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 04, 2019, 08:33:33 PM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.

That shirt sleeve sponsor basically sell extremely dodgy looking bonds.  It looks very, very, very dodgy indeed.

Yes but it's a rampant lion.

Heraldry Pedant Alert

I think youíll find itís a Lion Rampant


Iíll get my coat.....

No need, I am an enthusiastic pedant myself.

Are you sure you aren't a pedant enthusiast?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 04, 2019, 09:01:59 PM
Yep, I just used a pic of last season's as it showed the sleeve sponsor logo.

That shirt sleeve sponsor basically sell extremely dodgy looking bonds.  It looks very, very, very dodgy indeed.

Yes but it's a rampant lion.

Heraldry Pedant Alert

I think youíll find itís a Lion Rampant


Iíll get my coat.....

No need, I am an enthusiastic pedant myself.

Are you sure you aren't a pedant enthusiast?

I think that would make me an enthusiast for pedants. Possibly a pedantry enthusiast.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 04, 2019, 09:26:56 PM
Ludicrous that this still hasn't been announced yet.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 04, 2019, 09:52:05 PM
I think the club are waiting for one or more signings (Mings, Butland for example) before going live with the big launch
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 04, 2019, 09:54:04 PM
I think the club are waiting for one or more signings (Mings, Butland for example) before going live with the big launch

If it's Mings they're waiting for, looks like the kit launch is penciled in for August 8th!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 04, 2019, 09:58:52 PM
Iím sure we will play our friendlies in our new kit so I imagine the kit will be launched in line with that. First game is Minnesota on the 17th.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 04, 2019, 10:21:03 PM
That kit looks like Risso drew it on MS Paint.

Where's the wheelchairs?
Maybe he doesn't know how to draw them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 04, 2019, 10:39:07 PM
I think the club are waiting for one or more signings (Mings, Butland for example) before going live with the big launch
Or maybe they have a date set for release, thatís just a date for release, like all other clubs.
Ours just happens to be July 9th (reportedly).


Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 04, 2019, 10:42:55 PM
Kappa logo looks like a 2 headed woman- legs a-kimbo, as Alan Partridge might say
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 05, 2019, 09:36:57 AM
I think the club are waiting for one or more signings (Mings, Butland for example) before going live with the big launch
Or maybe they have a date set for release, thatís just a date for release, like all other clubs.
Ours just happens to be July 9th (reportedly).

Exactly.  I think we hear every year that maybe they're waiting to announce two signing together, kit launch is waiting for a signing etc but I can't recall that ever happening.  If the kit was ready to be launched they would launch it.  If Mings was ready to be announced, they'd announce him.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 05, 2019, 09:56:35 AM
I dream of the day it's unveiled in May.
And upon the shirt's chest, is the only old 80s crest.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 05, 2019, 12:34:53 PM
I dream of the day it's unveiled in May.
And upon the shirt's chest, is the only old 80s crest.
With a body of claret and sleeves of light blue.

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 05, 2019, 03:33:10 PM
This is it apparently. The blue one, meh.
(https://i.ibb.co/hsBBQvw/5051-CAE9-3-F12-44-C1-ABCC-C038-FDAB6536.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsBBQvw)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 05, 2019, 03:38:24 PM
The blue one is the one on that mock up a couple of pages back and looks good in my opinion.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: DB on July 05, 2019, 03:41:48 PM
This is it apparently. The blue one, meh.
(https://i.ibb.co/hsBBQvw/5051-CAE9-3-F12-44-C1-ABCC-C038-FDAB6536.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsBBQvw)


Agree. Away kit  should be white not sky blue or whatever that is.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 05, 2019, 03:45:43 PM
This is it apparently. The blue one, meh.
(https://i.ibb.co/hsBBQvw/5051-CAE9-3-F12-44-C1-ABCC-C038-FDAB6536.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsBBQvw)


Home one looks fine, design as expected, will reserve judgement until the shades are clearer. To me the blue still looks too pale, when did we go so muted? Used to be a beautiful shade of sky blue, now it's a kind of milky diluted blue-white. Just an observation of course

Away looks nice but strangely not as nice as in the mock-ups? Again, could be related to the shade/tone...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: SaddVillan on July 05, 2019, 04:15:15 PM
The light blue away shirt is fine by me, but needs to be matched with claret shorts to really impress - the claret shorts reflect the claret detailing in the shirt.

In the photo it's matched with white shorts and as a result it looks really insipid.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on July 05, 2019, 04:29:31 PM
I like them just hope I can fit into them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Gary Penrice on July 05, 2019, 04:58:49 PM
What is wrong with just having a couple of players modelling the strips ffs? Don't know what this photo shoot is all about but it looks ridiculous......and so do the people in it!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 05, 2019, 05:16:28 PM
Phew !
Itís claret and blue with a hole for your head and two for your arms.

We can all relax.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 05, 2019, 05:18:38 PM
Our away shirts should not be sky bloody blue.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 05, 2019, 05:23:00 PM
Why?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 05, 2019, 05:24:28 PM
Our away shirts should not be sky bloody blue.
I dunno, take a look at these.  Plenty of light blue kits over the years, but yes probably not as light as this one.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JUAN PABLO on July 05, 2019, 05:25:21 PM
Our away shirts should not be sky bloody blue.

maybe we will play as good as manchester city and not Coventry
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 05, 2019, 05:30:10 PM
Because I don't like it, is the long and short of it. 😊
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 05, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
Based on the mock up the away kits look nice. They don't look quite so good on those pictures but it's hard to tell and will probably depend on what shorts and socks combination they go with.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Rotterdam on July 05, 2019, 07:29:52 PM
Does anyone know, will the kits be available from the club shop from the 9th onward? Our eldest has a a football party arranged for his eighth birthday on the 13th. He would love to wear a new Grealish top...it costs me twice as much as his little brother (3) will have to have a SJM kit.
I could order from Kitbag etc, but I doubt they would arrive in time.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 05, 2019, 08:52:45 PM
Based on the pics on previous page both kits look decent...the away kit doesnít look as good as the mock up because of the white shorts and doesnít have the single colour claret badge. Donít like the look of the shorts and some of the training wear if theyíve got the Kappa logos splattered all over them.

Also, the W88 sponsors logo are fcukin huuuuuge...ridiculously oversized and could possibly spoil the kit design. I doubt Iíd buy either but definitely wonít unless they are able to sell a version without the sponsor logo.

Be interesting to see what casual wear is available this season, but if nothing decent then Iíll stick with my claret hoody, claret Fred Perry polos and retro kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 05, 2019, 09:27:37 PM
The massive 'W' looks hideous on the sponsor.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 05, 2019, 09:39:55 PM
I agree eamonn,  don't want to sound like some old timer, but it's too over bearing. I guess that's what they pay for and why I never buy modern shirts.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 05, 2019, 09:43:54 PM
Everyone in football seems to have a massive horrible sponsor ruining their kit this season. Some clubs at least allow you to buy it without the sponsor adorning it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ColinMac on July 05, 2019, 09:52:01 PM
Having just seen the new Coventry City kits, i have severe Hummel envy.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 05, 2019, 09:59:30 PM
Having just seen the new Coventry City kits, i have severe Hummel envy.

Do you envy them having to play their games at the sty?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 05, 2019, 10:03:00 PM
Least they can boast they'll have the highest attendance at the Sty.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on July 05, 2019, 10:09:03 PM
Given Hummel are responsible for the fucking abomination that Braga have as their 3rd choice I can live with missing out on them. I quite like the 2 from the photo above, will be better to see a proper preview and/or see it in person though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ColinMac on July 05, 2019, 10:15:38 PM
Having just seen the new Coventry City kits, i have severe Hummel envy.

Do you envy them having to play their games at the sty?

Dont give a flying fuck about Coventry City or where they will play next season to be honest, just like that Hummel kit template and would like to see it at the Villa again.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 05, 2019, 10:15:53 PM
Everyone in football seems to have a massive horrible sponsor ruining their kit this season. Some clubs at least allow you to buy it without the sponsor adorning it.

I wish we would. I'd pay extra not to have it on
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 05, 2019, 10:21:24 PM
Having just seen the new Coventry City kits, i have severe Hummel envy.

yes, very nice.
The home one is not a million miles from our 87-89 away top
I'd accept any of those two as our away top.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 05, 2019, 10:43:25 PM
Everyone in football seems to have a massive horrible sponsor ruining their kit this season. Some clubs at least allow you to buy it without the sponsor adorning it.

I wish we would. I'd pay extra not to have it on

And the sponsors would be paying us considerably less if that was an option.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 05, 2019, 10:45:42 PM
What is wrong with just having a couple of players modelling the strips ffs? Don't know what this photo shoot is all about but it looks ridiculous......and so do the people in it!
the 3 ladies are quite hot. One has a nice fanny pack (US jargon) too- adidas  I think.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 05, 2019, 11:00:22 PM
What is wrong with just having a couple of players modelling the strips ffs? Don't know what this photo shoot is all about but it looks ridiculous......and so do the people in it!
Hmmmm, Not sure if you are just being flippant or a miserable ******?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 05, 2019, 11:10:06 PM
I know I said it during the World Cup but the Mexico away kit is a thing of beauty.

https://www.adidas.com/us/mexico-away-jersey/BQ4689.html

Looks better in the flesh. Imagine that for Villa with the green replaced by light blue.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 06, 2019, 08:43:55 AM
Everyone in football seems to have a massive horrible sponsor ruining their kit this season. Some clubs at least allow you to buy it without the sponsor adorning it.

I wish we would. I'd pay extra not to have it on

And the sponsors would be paying us considerably less if that was an option.

I totally accept that, mate.
I just prefer tops without the sponsor
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on July 06, 2019, 09:13:38 AM
What is wrong with just having a couple of players modelling the strips ffs? Don't know what this photo shoot is all about but it looks ridiculous......and so do the people in it!

Haha. I thought the same thing, but that's life I guess. As long as we win in what we're wearing, I'm not too bothered. It's aimed at the youth I suppose.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 06, 2019, 09:24:49 AM
The youth is starting to change, are you starting to change...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 06, 2019, 09:31:51 AM
The kappa photo shoot using VP could be purely for kappa. Iíve seen a few people slagging these shirts already vs Luke Roper. Both were designed by fanatics and merely have a Kappa or Luke Roper logo on
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: luke95 on July 06, 2019, 09:32:36 AM
Everyone in football seems to have a massive horrible sponsor ruining their kit this season. Some clubs at least allow you to buy it without the sponsor adorning it.

I wish we would. I'd pay extra not to have it on

And the sponsors would be paying us considerably less if that was an option.
To be fair shirt sponsors pay for the TV coverage rather than advertising through shirt sales .
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on July 06, 2019, 09:34:48 AM
The youth is starting to change, are you starting to change...

A little. In all the wrong places, and in all the wrong ways!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 06, 2019, 09:36:05 AM
They pay for both, plus the exposure they get from the kit launch, advertising plastered all over the club website and social media and so on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 06, 2019, 09:42:53 AM
I know I said it during the World Cup but the Mexico away kit is a thing of beauty.

https://www.adidas.com/us/mexico-away-jersey/BQ4689.html

Looks better in the flesh. Imagine that for Villa with the green replaced by light blue.

I've got that kit, it's my main Tuesday night five-a-side kit, if I'm not wearing a Villa one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 06, 2019, 09:47:04 AM
The Kappa logo look horrendous repeated over and over again on those jogging bottoms and shorts, it really does look like they've come from the sale rack at Sports Direct, along with some Lonsdale trainers. Awful.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on July 06, 2019, 10:06:08 AM
I really like these kits. For a start they actually look like a Villa kit which always helps.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: themossman on July 06, 2019, 10:12:21 AM
The massive 'W' looks hideous on the sponsor.

Sponsors ruin most shirts these days. Some shitty, never heard of gambling company with a logo that looks like someoneís GCSE design and technology coursework. No thanks.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 06, 2019, 10:20:30 AM
Club seriously missing a trick not selling versions minus the sponsor. Iíd pay £5 more for an option without
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on July 06, 2019, 10:22:14 AM
Club seriously missing a trick not selling versions minus the sponsor. Iíd pay £5 more for an option without

Why would they sponsor our kit if we did that?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on July 06, 2019, 10:49:40 AM
I believe West Ham do it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 06, 2019, 10:50:53 AM
I believe West Ham do it.

They do - they offer the option to have the sponsor's logo on or not
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 06, 2019, 10:57:02 AM
Club seriously missing a trick not selling versions minus the sponsor. Iíd pay £5 more for an option without

Why would they sponsor our kit if we did that?

Pretty sure itís so they get their brand shown across premier league, sky, worn by players etc. Donít think having Barry from Shirley wearing their logo is exactly why they part with their sponsorship money
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villa75 on July 06, 2019, 10:59:21 AM
Club seriously missing a trick not selling versions minus the sponsor. Iíd pay £5 more for an option without

Why would they sponsor our kit if we did that?


Oh, I think I know! 👍

Is it, because Aston Villa are back I the Premier League and their games will be shown to millions on TV all over the world every week?

The revenue lost, from a few thousand middle age men, and women, walking around Asda without a sponsor on their shirt, should be minimal, I would think.

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on July 06, 2019, 10:59:43 AM
Club seriously missing a trick not selling versions minus the sponsor. Iíd pay £5 more for an option without

Why would they sponsor our kit if we did that?

Pretty sure itís so they get their brand shown across premier league, sky, worn by players etc. Donít think having Barry from Shirley wearing their logo is exactly why they part with their sponsorship money

But they also pay money for it to be on the replica kit. It's still advertising their company if Barry from Shirley is wearing it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: stubbsyandy on July 06, 2019, 11:14:26 AM
Or Shirley from Barry..
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ktvillan on July 06, 2019, 12:12:20 PM
The kappa badge all down the shorts is very admiral 1980 - not a good look.  Not sure why people are against a light blue away strip.  At least it's one of our main colours.  I've always liked them because of the 57 FA Cup top and the fact I started following Villa around the mid 60s when our away strip was light blue (Sir Brian Godfrey at Southampton in the FA Cup).  Both shirts look ok to me. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 06, 2019, 01:01:28 PM
Never had an issue with light blue, the Stanley Victor one of 1997/98 when he was unveiled in it and we were going to win the league, is still a fave of mine. Think we wore it a couple of times on our European odyssey that season (Bordeaux and Bilbao?).I wish I had bought it that year. Looked lush with the light blue shorts and white socks.

Even the more turquoise/black efforts (98/99 LDV Vans and 2009/10 Acorn) were quite lovely, perhaps time for their once a decade return.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 06, 2019, 09:43:41 PM
I know I said it during the World Cup but the Mexico away kit is a thing of beauty.

https://www.adidas.com/us/mexico-away-jersey/BQ4689.html

Looks better in the flesh. Imagine that for Villa with the green replaced by light blue.

Done it already in 1930/31  :)
(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1930-1931-change.gif)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 08, 2019, 11:01:39 AM
Can't believe we still don't have a date for this.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 08, 2019, 11:11:36 AM
Anyone know how much we got for the Kappa deal? Canít seem to find even a guesstimate on the inter web.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 08, 2019, 11:17:26 AM
I know I said it during the World Cup but the Mexico away kit is a thing of beauty.

https://www.adidas.com/us/mexico-away-jersey/BQ4689.html

Looks better in the flesh. Imagine that for Villa with the green replaced by light blue.

I remember when Mexico used to wear a kit made by Levi Strauss. There must be a photo of it somewhere on the internet

Here it is - fantastic!

https://twitter.com/thecolorfulkit/status/735936977556639744

 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Small Rodent on July 08, 2019, 12:02:48 PM
It's that time of year when men suddenly become experts in colour matching and fashion design.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Walmley_Villa on July 08, 2019, 12:17:56 PM
Can't believe we still don't have a date for this.

The rumour for a while  has been tomorrow (9th)..
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 08, 2019, 12:20:06 PM
May even be next week ahead of the first pre season game in the US
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: LukeJames on July 08, 2019, 05:46:58 PM
I like it..... sleeve ends are weird though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: spangley1812 on July 08, 2019, 05:52:49 PM
Can't believe we still don't have a date for this.

The rumour for a while  has been tomorrow (9th)..

Pre-Order later this Week and on sale from Weds 17/07/19
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on July 08, 2019, 05:54:39 PM
It's fine, as expected....suppose its all about the quality.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 08, 2019, 06:09:16 PM
It's nice. Last season's was better but last season's is an all time classic.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 08, 2019, 06:11:19 PM
Not a patch on last season's.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on July 08, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
It's bang on
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on July 08, 2019, 06:24:46 PM
It's alright. Tyrone makes it look good!

Just personal preference, but I still like Luke's designs much more.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 08, 2019, 06:24:58 PM
Yaaaaaaas claret shirt and blue sleeves!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 08, 2019, 06:39:41 PM
Claret and blue. Nice and simple design. Looks bang on the money to me. 😎👍
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 08, 2019, 06:49:41 PM
Just realised no one else has even mentioned and I didnít even raise an eyebrow at the shades of claret and blue, so that is definitely a good sign! 😊
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Deano's Mullet on July 08, 2019, 07:20:58 PM
Claret shirt and blue sleeves, blue socks - excellent. Design could do with  bit of blue  trim around the  neck. Seen better but seen far worse.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on July 08, 2019, 07:25:59 PM
Hope after many years of not releasing one, they do a long sleeve version.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 08, 2019, 07:45:05 PM
Just realised no one else has even mentioned and I didnít even raise an eyebrow at the shades of claret and blue, so that is definitely a good sign! 😊

Difficult to be sure from internet shots, but the claret looks to have had more blue added to it compared to Luke's version, which he had taken more to the red end of that spectrum. And the sky blue sure looks considerably lighter.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 08, 2019, 07:58:30 PM
Once you get past the various logos on the shirt,  the colours look spot on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 08, 2019, 08:06:39 PM
Liking the lighter powder blue but not so sure about the "claret"
I prefer a deeper burgundy claret  -  but that's enough about  my drinking habits :)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 08, 2019, 08:17:02 PM
On the mings video the seam on the shoulder between the sleeves and shoulders and main body of the shirt looks raised.  Maybe it's just a crease from a hanger, but first impression to me is that it just doesn't look well made.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 08, 2019, 08:23:51 PM
On the mings video the seam on the shoulder between the sleeves and shoulders and main body of the shirt looks raised.  Maybe it's just a crease from a hanger, but first impression to me is that it just doesn't look well made.

I thought the exact same, doesn't look well made at all. If it looks like that on an athlete, how will it look on the majority of dad-bods?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 08, 2019, 08:27:02 PM
Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 08, 2019, 08:27:34 PM
Looks bloody lovely to me. Unfussy. Claret. And Blue. In some lights it seems a tad lighter but then in others it's perfect.

Let's hope they do the replicas in sizes that suit real people!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 08, 2019, 08:34:18 PM
On the mings video the seam on the shoulder between the sleeves and shoulders and main body of the shirt looks raised.  Maybe it's just a crease from a hanger, but first impression to me is that it just doesn't look well made.

I thought the exact same, doesn't look well made at all. If it looks like that on an athlete, how will it look on the majority of dad-bods?
Am I on momsnet?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 08, 2019, 08:35:45 PM
On the mings video the seam on the shoulder between the sleeves and shoulders and main body of the shirt looks raised.  Maybe it's just a crease from a hanger, but first impression to me is that it just doesn't look well made.

I thought the exact same, doesn't look well made at all. If it looks like that on an athlete, how will it look on the majority of dad-bods?
Am I on momsnet?
What, people commenting on the quality of replica shirts offends you? 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 08, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
On the mings video the seam on the shoulder between the sleeves and shoulders and main body of the shirt looks raised.  Maybe it's just a crease from a hanger, but first impression to me is that it just doesn't look well made.

I thought the exact same, doesn't look well made at all. If it looks like that on an athlete, how will it look on the majority of dad-bods?
Am I on momsnet?

I'm going to get one each for my DD and DS. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 08, 2019, 08:40:24 PM
No it doesn't 'offend' me. You just sound really picky basing your comment on a low-definition photograph from a seemingly hastily-organised photoshoot in Witton.

But you are welcome to your view, obviously.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 08, 2019, 08:47:40 PM
Sponsor being so prominent ruins it for me.

Mind you think last kit I actually got was in 2003. Very much happy with whatever shade of claret and blue and more concerned with who we have playing in it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 08, 2019, 08:49:55 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/GtYGg15/Screenshot-20190708-214759-com-google-android-youtube.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yYvKLMQ)

Screenshot from his interview. What do we think of the cut of his cloth?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 08, 2019, 09:09:25 PM
No it doesn't 'offend' me. You just sound really picky basing your comment on a low-definition photograph from a seemingly hastily-organised photoshoot in Witton.

But you are welcome to your view, obviously.
It was from a 7 minute video interview of him, but whatever.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 08, 2019, 09:23:58 PM
No it doesn't 'offend' me. You just sound really picky basing your comment on a low-definition photograph from a seemingly hastily-organised photoshoot in Witton.

But you are welcome to your view, obviously.
It was from a 7 minute video interview of him, but whatever.
OK. Sorry for upsetting you. Momsnet was just a light-hearted comment. Please forgive me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 08, 2019, 09:25:33 PM
Maybe the shirts are sound but Mings has got a couple of chips on his shoulders. That could explain things.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on July 08, 2019, 09:40:47 PM
Claret shirt, blue sleeves.  You can't really go wrong.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Pat McMahon on July 08, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
Claret shirt and blue sleeves, blue socks - excellent. Design could do with  bit of blue  trim around the  neck. Seen better but seen far worse.

I made the comment to Chico earlier that I would have liked a blue neck too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 08, 2019, 10:33:21 PM
I am looking forward to seeing the away one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on July 08, 2019, 11:04:21 PM
I am looking forward to seeing the away one.
To announce PHILLIPS
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 08, 2019, 11:10:48 PM
Third kit to announce Daniel Sturridge 😏
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: myf on July 08, 2019, 11:19:05 PM
horrible logo but silvr lining is it's missing from the kids version
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on July 09, 2019, 12:15:49 AM
Third kit to announce Daniel Sturridge 😏

It's a hospital gown?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on July 09, 2019, 02:16:44 AM
Hallelujah a Villa kit again.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 09, 2019, 04:04:36 AM
Bit underwhelming really. Much preferred last seasons. But youíve got to hand it to Kappa- theyíve obviously done their research trawling all the fan sites and taking note of all the ĎI just want a claret body and blue sleevesí comments. And then theyíve produced a shirt with a Claret body and blue sleeves!

I donít want to be too critical- itís certainly not bad, just wonít ever be a classic.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2019, 05:51:01 AM
No it doesn't 'offend' me. You just sound really picky basing your comment on a low-definition photograph from a seemingly hastily-organised photoshoot in Witton.

But you are welcome to your view, obviously.
It was from a 7 minute video interview of him, but whatever.
OK. Sorry for upsetting you. Momsnet was just a light-hearted comment. Please forgive me.

You monster.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on July 09, 2019, 06:09:47 AM
Bit underwhelming really. Much preferred last seasons. But youíve got to hand it to Kappa- theyíve obviously done their research trawling all the fan sites and taking note of all the ĎI just want a claret body and blue sleevesí comments. And then theyíve produced a shirt with a Claret body and blue sleeves!

I donít want to be too critical- itís certainly not bad, just wonít ever be a classic.

It will if we win something wearing it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brassneck on July 09, 2019, 06:40:32 AM
I am looking forward to seeing the away one.

It has to be that light blue one surely?  The home one is identical to the one posted a few pages back so I'm guessing the light blue one is the away top.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 09, 2019, 06:45:46 AM
I like the fact that the sleeves are blue again, so at least it's a proper Villa kit, but everything else about it looks a bit shite.  From the Kappa logo on the sleeves to the weird cut out bits on the sleeves themselves.  It just looks cheap in my opinion.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on July 09, 2019, 07:02:35 AM
Last season's was better but I don't think there's not too much wrong with this one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: tim on July 09, 2019, 08:00:53 AM
It's alright, but just a shirt. Pretty unremarkable and ordinary, and agree with Risso, looks a little cheap.

Right colours though!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 09, 2019, 08:08:19 AM
I quite like it and if the away is as per the leaked photos i may even buy one assuming they do a fit for big lads.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 09, 2019, 08:13:24 AM
I like the fact that the sleeves are blue again, so at least it's a proper Villa kit, but everything else about it looks a bit shite.  From the Kappa logo on the sleeves to the weird cut out bits on the sleeves themselves.  It just looks cheap in my opinion.

So last season's wasn't right because of the colour of the sleeves, this season's isn't right because although they're the right colour they have logos and a cut-out trim. Bit preoccupied with sleeves there Riss?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 09, 2019, 08:15:07 AM
I like the fact that the sleeves are blue again, so at least it's a proper Villa kit, but everything else about it looks a bit shite.  From the Kappa logo on the sleeves to the weird cut out bits on the sleeves themselves.  It just looks cheap in my opinion.

So last season's wasn't right because of the colour of the sleeves, this season's isn't right because although they're the right colour they have logos and a cut-out trim. Bit preoccupied with sleeves there Riss?

Christ you're an arse at times.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 09, 2019, 08:20:17 AM
It's better than I expected. The sponsor is less obtrusive than in the mock-ups and the yellow/gold on the W kind of blends with the lion rampant on the crest.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 09, 2019, 08:22:38 AM
Last season's was better but I don't think there's not too much wrong with this one.

A double negative and you were once often called a happy clapper. Heh.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on July 09, 2019, 08:24:15 AM
Last season's was better but I don't think there's not too much wrong with this one.

A double negative and you were once often called a happy clapper. Heh.

Haha. Half asleep when I posted that earlier.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 09, 2019, 08:31:19 AM
I like the fact that the sleeves are blue again, so at least it's a proper Villa kit, but everything else about it looks a bit shite.  From the Kappa logo on the sleeves to the weird cut out bits on the sleeves themselves.  It just looks cheap in my opinion.

So last season's wasn't right because of the colour of the sleeves, this season's isn't right because although they're the right colour they have logos and a cut-out trim. Bit preoccupied with sleeves there Riss?

Christ you're an arse at times.

Bloody hell mate it was meant light-heartedly, you don't half take things personally do you.......
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on July 09, 2019, 10:04:10 AM
I like it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on July 09, 2019, 11:09:51 AM
Well I think itís bloody lovely.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 09, 2019, 12:35:36 PM
I like it.

Me too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 09, 2019, 01:12:26 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/QnbQ5L2/Screenshot-20190709-140715.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bLWmfTS)
I wonder what my barrel-shaped torso would look like in that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 09, 2019, 01:22:23 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/QY50Q3Z/Screen-Shot-2019-07-09-at-13-15-10.png) (https://ibb.co/QY50Q3Z)


Still looks a bit washed out compared to the colourways in Villa's guidelines.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villa75 on July 09, 2019, 02:03:01 PM
Have they changed the rules on the maximum space taken up by sponsorship logos? I swear they never used to take up that amount of shirt!

If it gets any bigger it won't matter what shade the claret is, as it will hardly be visible! 😂
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 09, 2019, 03:27:25 PM
Had to admit, I didn't realise we were being sponsored by a thermonuclear warhead.

Clicky. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W88)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 09, 2019, 03:56:43 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/QY50Q3Z/Screen-Shot-2019-07-09-at-13-15-10.png) (https://ibb.co/QY50Q3Z)


Still looks a bit washed out compared to the colourways in Villa's guidelines.
Thems the proper claret and blue !!!   
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 09, 2019, 04:19:37 PM
Those are inks from a Pantone deck. They donít automatically translate to paint or fabrics. I agree though the blue looks too faded out to me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 09, 2019, 04:19:50 PM
Just thinking .......if Scunthorpe fans complained about their new kit having creases on the sleeves would they be tempted to demonstrate at matches by singing
"Come on you Irons"?
I'll get me coat :)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2019, 05:05:04 PM
When is the actual kit launch?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 09, 2019, 05:16:18 PM
When is the actual kit launch?

17th to coincide with the game vs Minnesota
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 09, 2019, 05:17:30 PM
When is the actual kit launch?

17th to coincide with the game vs Minnesota

Are you going?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 09, 2019, 05:35:38 PM
When is the actual kit launch?

17th to coincide with the game vs Minnesota

That's when it's on sale - pre-sale starts later this week so I'd expect it will launch Thurs or Fri
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 09, 2019, 05:36:24 PM
Those are inks from a Pantone deck. They donít automatically translate to paint or fabrics. I agree though the blue looks too faded out to me.

They're not Ė that image is a direct lift from the Villa brand guidelines, which I have.
Both colours are broken down into their CMYK, RGB, Pantone and Hex equivalents. Click the image to see them all.

Matching it in fabric is a challenge, but it's one that any decent Creative Director should be able to sign off. I should know, I am one (well, whether I'm decent is not really my call).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 09, 2019, 05:47:00 PM
Those are inks from a Pantone deck. They donít automatically translate to paint or fabrics. I agree though the blue looks too faded out to me.

They're not Ė that image is a direct lift from the Villa brand guidelines, which I have.
Both colours are broken down into their CMYK, RGB, Pantone and Hex equivalents. Click the image to see them all.

Matching it in fabric is a challenge, but it's one that any decent Creative Director should be able to sign off. I should know, I am one (well, whether I'm decent is not really my call).

My point is the Pantone number reference is still an ink. And I imagine they created a fabric standard from the brand guideline for approval.

Like I said for me the blue is too muted. I liked the Acorns Nike kit (year we had the white and blue away) where I felt the colours were bang on. The material that year was different too which would have reflected indoor and outdoor light differently affecting how we see the colour.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 09, 2019, 06:16:34 PM
It isn't an ink, it is a scientific representation of a colour.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ktvillan on July 09, 2019, 06:18:23 PM
I don't think we've had claret and blue as I always knew it since the Nike days, although last year was pretty close, and this one isn't too far off.  Nike seemed to have it nailed and things went astray with Macron.  Agree the blue should be a bit deeper but I like the fact it's claret body with blue sleeves and I think it looks very stylish. Only bit I'm not keen on is the Kappa logo all down each side of the shorts.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 09, 2019, 07:10:47 PM
To be fair, we all see colours differently anyway.

I prefer a claret that has a bit more 'brown' than 'purple' in it if that makes any sense. But of course that could look completely different to someone else.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: DB on July 09, 2019, 07:19:48 PM
To be fair, we all see colours differently anyway.

I prefer a claret that has a bit more 'brown' than 'purple' in it if that makes any sense. But of course that could look completely different to someone else.

Shit joke deleted.

I'll have a look in the store first, but will probably get the home top
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 09, 2019, 08:42:07 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/QY50Q3Z/Screen-Shot-2019-07-09-at-13-15-10.png) (https://ibb.co/QY50Q3Z)


Still looks a bit washed out compared to the colourways in Villa's guidelines.
And the claret is too pink, magenta.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 09, 2019, 09:00:41 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/Bq4L3fB/fullsizeoutput-1dd4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bq4L3fB)


This is the cycling top I made using basic options on a website. I think this is about right, so I don't see what's so difficult. I do like the new top except for the massive betting sponsor and the dodgy cut out sleeves.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 09, 2019, 09:24:44 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/Bq4L3fB/fullsizeoutput-1dd4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bq4L3fB)


This is the cycling top I made using basic options on a website. I think this is about right, so I don't see what's so difficult. I do like the new top except for the massive betting sponsor and the dodgy cut out sleeves.

Claret is pretty spot on. Blue not quite right.

But if anything this just proves none of us can ever be happy!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2019, 09:51:12 PM
Both colours look perfect to me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 09, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
cd, have you bought the season's last shirt?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 09, 2019, 10:09:42 PM
The design, colour, sleeves and sponsor will always devide opinion. Itís an annual tradition!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 09, 2019, 10:10:38 PM
The design, colour, sleeves and sponsor will always devide opinion. Itís an annual event!

Cut and paste from previous season's.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 09, 2019, 10:26:09 PM
cd, have you bought the season's last shirt?

I have bought seventeen thousand and burned the sleeves.

Not the best plan, in hindsight, as now the club thinks claret sleeves are really popular. 🤔
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on July 09, 2019, 10:35:18 PM
Villa should have an old 1978 home shirt lying around somewhere. If any prospective kit manufacturer can't match the claret or the blue kindly ask them to leave the building immediately.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ktvillan on July 10, 2019, 10:44:10 AM
Villa should have an old 1978 home shirt lying around somewhere. If any prospective kit manufacturer can't match the claret or the blue kindly ask them to leave the building immediately.

Indeed, I suggested this to the shop when complaining about the 'orrible purple and lilac Macron monstrosities.  It's not rocket surgery.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 10, 2019, 10:52:26 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/8bknJf8/IMG-20190710-105022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8bknJf8)


This is my first shirt, my daughter now wears it.....

Do we like the colours?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 10, 2019, 11:10:25 AM
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 10, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
That blue is the blue. Would like to go back to that instead of the washed-out pale milk hue we have now, but ho hum, not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: stuart r on July 10, 2019, 11:28:34 AM
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.

Don't like the colour of the umbro badge. Should be white.  8)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 10, 2019, 11:30:42 AM
The pitch is too green.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 10, 2019, 11:40:58 AM
He needs a few hours in the sun.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ktvillan on July 10, 2019, 12:31:25 PM
His hair is not ginger enough
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: FailsworthVillan on July 10, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.

Don't like the colour of the umbro badge. Should be white.  8)
I had one of those shirts and I think the Umbro badge was white. I can recall being a tad miffed when I noticed it was blue on on the players.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 10, 2019, 01:06:08 PM
I must admit the colours seem ok but the true test is the time I see one in real life.

As for the design - I am happy its traditional but also don't mind when we go a little "off piste" like we do with away shirts - I tend to buy the away shirt more often than home

Quality - again pictures are deceiving but the one that Mings is wearing on the OS looks like I sewn it together - again maybe its a mock up rather than as real one but the mock up does look a bit naff
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 10, 2019, 01:27:28 PM
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.

Don't like the colour of the umbro badge. Should be white.  8)
I had one of those shirts and I think the Umbro badge was white. I can recall being a tad miffed when I noticed it was blue on on the players.

the Umbro badge was white on the "official" kit as well. There were variations though - some white, some blue, some white with "Umbro" writtren underneath. And the earlier Umbro logo was weird - a sort of white and black/dark blue effort

Sorry for being such a nerd.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: FailsworthVillan on July 10, 2019, 01:27:57 PM
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.

Don't like the colour of the umbro badge. Should be white.  8)
I had one of those shirts and I think the Umbro badge was white. I can recall being a tad miffed when I noticed it was blue on on the players.
Looks white on Drummondís daughter aswell.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 10, 2019, 02:45:58 PM
(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.
Exactly, it should not be difficult.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 10, 2019, 03:18:10 PM
Does anyone know if the Villa Village is open on a Sunday?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hopadop on July 10, 2019, 07:03:28 PM

(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.
Exactly, it should not be difficult.

That's bang on.

I don't mind different collars and a bit of detail here and there. And they can go as off piste as they like with the away kit. But I'd like them to stick to that claret on the body and that blue on the arms.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 10, 2019, 09:04:56 PM
Blimey - for one moment I thought we had resigned Tommy Craig
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: olaftab on July 10, 2019, 09:12:56 PM
When do we expect new kit in Villastore? Nothing there today and staff had no clue.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dave P on July 10, 2019, 09:15:46 PM
When do we expect new kit in Villastore? Nothing there today and staff had no clue.

Apparently it available to pre order later this week and it goes on sale Wednesday 17th July.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 10, 2019, 09:31:03 PM
For anyone going to the Minnesota game apparently kits will be available to buy on the day. Not sure if itís home only or all of them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Pat McMahon on July 10, 2019, 09:49:25 PM

(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.
Exactly, it should not be difficult.

That's bang on.

I don't mind different collars and a bit of detail here and there. And they can go as off piste as they like with the away kit. But I'd like them to stick to that claret on the body and that blue on the arms.

I completely agree. For me, they are our colours and anything else is a cheap imitation.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 11, 2019, 08:49:40 AM
That blue is the blue. Would like to go back to that instead of the washed-out pale milk hue we have now, but ho hum, not the end of the world.
agree with that mate- thatís the blue right there. Makes a lighter claret look a bit darker to my eyes. I think the lighter washed out blue sleeves of recent years have fkd up how the claret appears. Someone else said Nike had the blue right last and I agree. Also agree that itís probably a bit different for each personís eyes. Apologies if this is my most boring post ever.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on July 11, 2019, 12:28:42 PM

(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/CraigMAIN.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20180517T105832Z&hash=8497292EFBC146547B35410FBD3E3EC1B7B9F974)

Tommy Craig pic from the OS, he moved to Swansea on this day in 1979.

That kit is perfect.
Exactly, it should not be difficult.

That's bang on.

I don't mind different collars and a bit of detail here and there. And they can go as off piste as they like with the away kit. But I'd like them to stick to that claret on the body and that blue on the arms and that badge.

FTFY
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 11, 2019, 12:32:21 PM
Does anyone know what's going on with the badge? When Xia came in it was said that he was going to change the Lerner badge and here we are over three years later and no sign of a change. And I know it might not be a priority at the moment but it's not as if it'd be that difficult to do, and we are pretty much all in agreement as fans that we want the 80s one back so it'd be a popular move. Would have been great once promotion had been confirmed, new era, new badge.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: luke95 on July 11, 2019, 01:23:53 PM
I thought they mayve changed the badge/rebranded this close season now we are back in the Prem.
The current  badge marks 10 yrs of decline.

Wouldn't go back to the 80s badge tho .
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 11, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
Current badge is great- monotone or whatever itís called
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 11, 2019, 02:38:25 PM
Itís also the badge that we had when the new owners arrived, when Dean Smith was appointed, when we got promoted back to the PL. So itís redeemed itself in that regard and to be honest itís not really a big deal.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 11, 2019, 02:52:39 PM
Well, as this is the new kit thread, the badge is a relatively big deal. I don't mind the current one except for the way it looks like the lion is burping the star, the fact that the lion is too fat and the lack of "Aston Villa Football Club".

Actually, that's quite a few complaints.

Get the bloody round badge back!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on July 11, 2019, 02:55:38 PM
I associate the "new" badge with Lerner. That's why I hate it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 11, 2019, 02:59:22 PM
I associate the "new" badge with Lerner. That's why I hate it.

Same. I could tolerate it if the star was removed and Aston Villa was written on it but not as it is, I think it's awful.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 11, 2019, 03:16:21 PM
The lion and star are fine for me, but it's past time for 'AVFC' to go. It needs to say Aston Villa again.

Wouldn't mind it being round but I can take or leave shape if it sends out the right message.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: glinch on July 11, 2019, 04:00:35 PM
If you join the claret membership you get a pin badge that is round using the current Lion, something along those lines would be great, and ditch the star.

The Lion emblem looks good in my opinion, and now that it's plastered everywhere Villa related I'd say it's here to stay.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 11, 2019, 04:02:16 PM
If you join the claret membership you get a pin badge that is round using the current Lion, something along those lines would be great, and ditch the star.

The Lion emblem looks good in my opinion, and now that it's plastered everywhere Villa related I'd say it's here to stay.
(https://i.ibb.co/gyMm5YP/image.png) (https://ibb.co/gyMm5YP)

Agree with you that would look good. I'd move the star to the bottom and put the wording ASTON VILLA FC in the top of the circle border.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Concrete Tom on July 11, 2019, 05:09:49 PM
Does anyone know what's going on with the badge? When Xia came in it was said that he was going to change the Lerner badge and here we are over three years later and no sign of a change. And I know it might not be a priority at the moment but it's not as if it'd be that difficult to do, and we are pretty much all in agreement as fans that we want the 80s one back so it'd be a popular move. Would have been great once promotion had been confirmed, new era, new badge.

Didnít the lion get amended a few years ago to make it a bit more ďfierceĒ?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 11, 2019, 05:18:49 PM
If you join the claret membership you get a pin badge that is round using the current Lion, something along those lines would be great, and ditch the star.

The Lion emblem looks good in my opinion, and now that it's plastered everywhere Villa related I'd say it's here to stay.

The star is there for a reason, though.
Ditch the star and you're just doing what Deadly did by removing part of our history.

I agree with robbo with the mono version, only with Aston Villa instead of AVFC.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villadelph on July 11, 2019, 05:36:10 PM
Why are we scrapping the star?  ???
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 11, 2019, 05:38:52 PM
We shouldn't be. It should be above the badge though, not looking like it has just been belched by the lion.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: john e on July 11, 2019, 05:46:38 PM
Dropping the Aston Villa name from our official crest was one of the most rediculous decisions ever

we have the greatest most unique name in world football, it sounds fantastic

one of the worlds greatest actors was recently saying that he supports the Villa because he fell in love with the name first
it has that kind of power
so what do we do....remove it

I think it will return one day hopefully not to long

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: glinch on July 11, 2019, 06:18:38 PM
Why are we scrapping the star?  ???

It feels like it has been forced into the current badge.

I'm all for having it above the badge though, maybe even saving it for our return to entering the European Cup after we win the league
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: glinch on July 11, 2019, 06:20:14 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/jJcdj40/IMG-20190711-181543-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jJcdj40)


Heres the pin badge you get with the Claret membership
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hopadop on July 11, 2019, 09:50:51 PM
I'm sure I read that we couldn't have the star above the badge unless playing in the EC. So they incorporated it into the badge to get around this.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 11, 2019, 10:28:45 PM
The Tunisia Kappa shirt has the same rucked look around the join at the shoulder and sleeve that looks badly made but seems to be a design feature. Hey ho.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 11, 2019, 10:36:32 PM
If you join the claret membership you get a pin badge that is round using the current Lion, something along those lines would be great, and ditch the star.

The Lion emblem looks good in my opinion, and now that it's plastered everywhere Villa related I'd say it's here to stay.
funny you mention pin badges- Iíve got one which I wear on my jacket (itís winter in aus) itís the round one, but reverse colours to the 80ís one. Bought it the last season we were in D2 from the badge man in Trinity Rd. Itís my lucky talisman.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 11, 2019, 11:18:58 PM
I'm sure I read that we couldn't have the star above the badge unless playing in the EC. So they incorporated it into the badge to get around this.

That is correct. It's a Premier League rule.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on July 12, 2019, 12:32:38 AM
I'm sure I read that we couldn't have the star above the badge unless playing in the EC. So they incorporated it into the badge to get around this.

That is correct. It's a Premier League rule.

Forest are fucked then if they ever get promoted - they've got two above their badge!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 12, 2019, 12:55:30 AM
I'm sure I read that we couldn't have the star above the badge unless playing in the EC. So they incorporated it into the badge to get around this.

That is correct. It's a Premier League rule.

Forest are fucked then if they ever get promoted - they've got two above their badge!

Haven't Man. City got them too? Not that they've ever won anything in Europe, obvs.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 12, 2019, 01:08:35 AM
Not any more, and their stars didn't represent any trophy wins.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2019, 01:27:48 AM
Yeovil have 3 stars, without looking it up, what are they for?

(https://images2.minutemediacdn.com/image/upload/c_fill,w_912,h_516,f_auto,q_auto,g_auto/shape/cover/sport/yeovil-town-v-chesterfield-sky-bet-league-two-5cb86cde99733e8864000004.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 12, 2019, 01:35:12 AM
Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and The Big Bopper.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2019, 01:40:11 AM
Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and The Big Bopper.

You must have looked it up to know that!!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 12, 2019, 01:48:56 AM
I've looked it up now, it's pretty lame. I won't say in case others want to guess.

I read the other day that Forest Green have three stars, two of which are greyed out. They are for their promotion to League Two and the promotions to League One and The Championship that they hope to achieve one day.

I think we should have a thousand stars above our badge for all the European Cups we might win.😏

All those vegetables have clearly sent them mad.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 12, 2019, 04:00:24 AM
Huddersfield have three stars above their badge on the kit but itís incorporated in the middle of their official club crest.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 12, 2019, 07:05:33 AM
Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and The Big Bopper.

You must have looked it up to know that!!

Was listening to his greatest hits album in the car.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 12, 2019, 07:08:24 AM
Huddersfield have three stars above their badge on the kit but itís incorporated in the middle of their official club crest.

For their three European Cup wins, obviously
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on July 12, 2019, 11:38:15 AM
We can all relax now given Kappaís reputation for snug fit shirts !
Now for pre order, you can choose normal kit or kappa elite fit on club website shop. Choice in shirts and shorts for bodyfit

https://tinyurl.com/y2yltvmf
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 12, 2019, 11:42:53 AM
We can all relax now given Kappaís reputation for snug fit shirts !
Now for pre order, you can choose normal kit or kappa elite fit on club website shop. Choice in shirts and shorts for bodyfit

https://tinyurl.com/y2yltvmf

Frustratingly the images for both are identical so it's impossible to tell what the difference in cut will actually be...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2019, 11:44:33 AM
I assume ours will be similar

They do 2 versions for Leeds fans

(https://i.ibb.co/cvqx8tx/Screenshot-113.png)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 12, 2019, 11:45:21 AM
Some training wear also available...the pre-match shirt fucks your eyes up though! 😵
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on July 12, 2019, 11:57:19 AM
Some training wear also available...the pre-match shirt fucks your eyes up though! 😵

It's like the monitor's gone a bit fuzzy!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on July 12, 2019, 12:58:39 PM
Pre match training top...


(https://i.ibb.co/HT7vZRW/D-Rer-FBU4-AEut-Oe.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HT7vZRW)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 12, 2019, 01:00:52 PM
My eyes! My eyes! 🙈
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2019, 01:06:54 PM
Pre match training top...


(https://i.ibb.co/HT7vZRW/D-Rer-FBU4-AEut-Oe.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HT7vZRW)


Prefer that to the main shirt!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 12, 2019, 01:07:01 PM
We can all relax now given Kappa’s reputation for snug fit shirts !
Now for pre order, you can choose normal kit or kappa elite fit on club website shop. Choice in shirts and shorts for bodyfit

https://tinyurl.com/y2yltvmf

Extra 25 quid for a tight shirt too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2019, 01:08:18 PM
We can all relax now given Kappa’s reputation for snug fit shirts !
Now for pre order, you can choose normal kit or kappa elite fit on club website shop. Choice in shirts and shorts for bodyfit

https://tinyurl.com/y2yltvmf

Extra 25 quid for a tight shirt too.


I'll just the buy the normal one for the same effect.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 12, 2019, 02:41:02 PM
We can all relax now given Kappaís reputation for snug fit shirts !
Now for pre order, you can choose normal kit or kappa elite fit on club website shop. Choice in shirts and shorts for bodyfit

https://tinyurl.com/y2yltvmf

Extra 25 quid for a tight shirt too.


I'll just the buy the normal one for the same effect.

Like.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 12, 2019, 02:50:10 PM
First time ever, I have bought 2 shirts on pre-order, as I feel this is a new beginning, and I must subscribe to that mentally.

Went for the Elite Fit, as it says it is exactly as the first team uses - so I hope it is not just the "slim" bit, but also a better fabric etc. (bloody expensive though!)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Mister E on July 12, 2019, 03:07:43 PM
Why is the blue so washed out?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2019, 03:11:13 PM
I wonder if this is the same sort of thing they do with replica shirts in the US.  I noticed over there in NFL shops that the "match day" shirts  are a lot more expensive than the standard ones.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 12, 2019, 03:12:43 PM
Anyway, for anyone interested, Yeovil have/had 3 stars to celebrate 15 years in the football league, each star was for 5 years. I assume the stars are gone now.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on July 12, 2019, 03:15:13 PM
I wonder if this is the same sort of thing they do with replica shirts in the US.  I noticed over there in NFL shops that the "match day" shirts  are a lot more expensive than the standard ones.

It's quite clever in a thieving-bastard kind of way.

When replica shirts were introduced they were expensive because it gave you the chance to dress like the professionals. Over time the quality of them got pushed down whilst the retail price crept up to drive extra profit.

Now they introduce a new version so you can dress like the professionals again and charge you £25 more for it.

Incredible. But as Edvard demonstrates, they can get away with it!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 12, 2019, 03:22:41 PM
I wonder if this is the same sort of thing they do with replica shirts in the US.  I noticed over there in NFL shops that the "match day" shirts  are a lot more expensive than the standard ones.

It's quite clever in a thieving-bastard kind of way.

When replica shirts were introduced they were expensive because it gave you the chance to dress like the professionals. Over time the quality of them got pushed down whilst the retail price crept up to drive extra profit.

Now they introduce a new version so you can dress like the professionals again and charge you £25 more for it.

Incredible. But as Edvard demonstrates, they can get away with it!
That's only because I am daft.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on July 12, 2019, 03:49:16 PM
I wonder if this is the same sort of thing they do with replica shirts in the US.  I noticed over there in NFL shops that the "match day" shirts  are a lot more expensive than the standard ones.

It's quite clever in a thieving-bastard kind of way.

When replica shirts were introduced they were expensive because it gave you the chance to dress like the professionals. Over time the quality of them got pushed down whilst the retail price crept up to drive extra profit.

Now they introduce a new version so you can dress like the professionals again and charge you £25 more for it.

Incredible. But as Edvard demonstrates, they can get away with it!
That's only because I am daft.


I'm sure you're not.  But the clubs take advantage of people getting carried away in the momentum.

£80 for a t-shirt is eye-wateringly expensive (or maybe it isn't and I'm just tight!).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 12, 2019, 04:13:34 PM
I wonder if this is the same sort of thing they do with replica shirts in the US.  I noticed over there in NFL shops that the "match day" shirts  are a lot more expensive than the standard ones.

It's quite clever in a thieving-bastard kind of way.

When replica shirts were introduced they were expensive because it gave you the chance to dress like the professionals. Over time the quality of them got pushed down whilst the retail price crept up to drive extra profit.

Now they introduce a new version so you can dress like the professionals again and charge you £25 more for it.

Incredible. But as Edvard demonstrates, they can get away with it!
That's only because I am daft.


I'm sure you're not.  But the clubs take advantage of people getting carried away in the momentum.

£80 for a t-shirt is eye-wateringly expensive (or maybe it isn't and I'm just tight!).
It is - and why I rarely buy any shirt until they are on end-of-season sale - but in this case - I am doing a one-off, hoping this is a start of a new era of success :)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 12, 2019, 04:14:14 PM
I wonder if this is the same sort of thing they do with replica shirts in the US.  I noticed over there in NFL shops that the "match day" shirts  are a lot more expensive than the standard ones.

It's quite clever in a thieving-bastard kind of way.

When replica shirts were introduced they were expensive because it gave you the chance to dress like the professionals. Over time the quality of them got pushed down whilst the retail price crept up to drive extra profit.

Now they introduce a new version so you can dress like the professionals again and charge you £25 more for it.

Incredible. But as Edvard demonstrates, they can get away with it!
That's only because I am daft.


I'm sure you're not.  But the clubs take advantage of people getting carried away in the momentum.

£80 for a t-shirt is eye-wateringly expensive (or maybe it isn't and I'm just tight!).


not as tight as those £80 shirts eeeek !!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 12, 2019, 04:36:08 PM
The new Luton home top by Puma is lovely. Simple design.


(https://i.ibb.co/3MKVFDM/C9-E46-C08-E6-AF-43-AA-8-B99-4838-BB479-A78.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3MKVFDM)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 12, 2019, 04:37:35 PM
The new Luton home top by Puma is lovely. Simple design.


(https://i.ibb.co/3MKVFDM/C9-E46-C08-E6-AF-43-AA-8-B99-4838-BB479-A78.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3MKVFDM)


Nice.  Shame we won't be seeing much of it this season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 12, 2019, 04:46:30 PM
That's horrible! Can you imagine what ours would look like with that template? Shudder.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 12, 2019, 04:57:42 PM
I wonder if this is the same sort of thing they do with replica shirts in the US.  I noticed over there in NFL shops that the "match day" shirts  are a lot more expensive than the standard ones.

It's quite clever in a thieving-bastard kind of way.

When replica shirts were introduced they were expensive because it gave you the chance to dress like the professionals. Over time the quality of them got pushed down whilst the retail price crept up to drive extra profit.

Now they introduce a new version so you can dress like the professionals again and charge you £25 more for it.

Incredible. But as Edvard demonstrates, they can get away with it!

Were they actually the same as the ones the players wore when they were first on sale to the public? Because my first shirts were in the mid/late 90s and those ones definitely weren't.

It does make sense for the price to go up as technology has advanced imo, its not just football shirts you see this with. Whether its worth the price is down to the individual I think.


Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 12, 2019, 05:00:57 PM
The new Luton home top by Puma is lovely. Simple design.


(https://i.ibb.co/3MKVFDM/C9-E46-C08-E6-AF-43-AA-8-B99-4838-BB479-A78.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3MKVFDM)


As a Lutonian it could do with dropping the black dressing on the sleeves, then it would be like the early 80s one, but otherwise you're right TV, very nice.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 12, 2019, 05:48:33 PM
It looks quite red, assume it is orangeyer in real life.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 12, 2019, 06:29:13 PM
First home shirt I've bought since Nike/Acorns. And I had to add the Premier League patch, partly to balance out the sleeve sponsor on the other side. But mostly because WE'RE BLOODY BACK!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on July 12, 2019, 10:41:52 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 12, 2019, 10:57:56 PM
I donít particularly like it.  After last years beauty it always had a lot to live up to.  It ticks the blue sleeve box but frankly it just seems a bit dull.  But if we have a great season Iím pretty sure it will grow on me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 12, 2019, 11:35:40 PM
"If youíre unable to make it to either the US or UK launch..."
Qu'est-ce que that when it's at home, then?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on July 13, 2019, 07:34:47 PM
Pre match training top...


(https://i.ibb.co/HT7vZRW/D-Rer-FBU4-AEut-Oe.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HT7vZRW)


Prefer that to the main shirt!


That's a beautiful top Risso I really like it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Rich6by7 on July 13, 2019, 08:09:17 PM
I love the black goalkeeper kit (https://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/c/football-kits/goalkeeper-kit/mens-kit). I'm not prepared to be an advert for a betting company though; I'll spend my £55 on match tickets instead.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 13, 2019, 08:24:50 PM
The navy training shorts (https://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-training-shorts---navy/267163?categories=training%2Cmens-training) and light grey training top (https://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/product/aston-villa-training-top---light-grey/267138?categories=training%2Cmens-training) are nice too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 13, 2019, 08:26:53 PM
I'm actually really impressed by all of them. Nice designs across the board
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 13, 2019, 08:28:54 PM
Not bad prices either. Training shirts are £33-40.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on July 14, 2019, 10:25:17 PM
Kitbag have 10% off your first order and I think have the full range, itís probably them that run the villa shop online. Was a bit disappointed no ST discount these days but all shop outsourced I understand.
Probably some bigger kitbag discounts if anybody finds any?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 15, 2019, 07:58:28 AM
When do we see the away kit/s?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on July 15, 2019, 09:25:37 AM
I love the black goalkeeper kit (https://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/c/football-kits/goalkeeper-kit/mens-kit). I'm not prepared to be an advert for a betting company though; I'll spend my £55 on match tickets instead.


The Black Goalkeeper kit is nice I must admit a bit Lev Yashin I like it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 15, 2019, 09:35:18 AM
I love the black goalkeeper kit (https://shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/en/c/football-kits/goalkeeper-kit/mens-kit). I'm not prepared to be an advert for a betting company though; I'll spend my £55 on match tickets instead.

Each to their own but I've never in my life known anyone so shallow that a sponsor on a football kit inspired them to do something they would not otherwise have done. Well......... not since I suffered through a pot of Muller Rice aged 12......
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KevinEaton on July 15, 2019, 09:57:52 AM
Does anyone know if you can buy the sleeveless training tops? I cant see them on the shop page so assuming they dont sell them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on July 15, 2019, 10:27:31 AM
Club announced villa shop closed tomorrow, in readiness for kit launch Wednesday
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 15, 2019, 10:44:39 AM
 I wish theyíd just get on with it and launch it all at the same time, preferably 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 15, 2019, 11:01:05 AM
I wish theyíd just get on with it and launch it all at the same time, preferably 3 weeks ago.

Agreed, why does it seem like the launches get more and more arduous every year? It's a range of 3-4 jerseys (including the GK kit), just launch them and get it over with. I've ordered the home kit now as I can't be arsed waiting until the season starts and the summer is ostensibly over to get my hands on the away, and I've never bought both so that won't be changing now just because they've staggered the releases in an unnecessarily awkward fashion.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 16, 2019, 12:46:11 PM
I'm pretty confident that this won't happen next year. We're getting far better in virtually all other aspects and there's no reason to believe this won't improve.

The short-term deals we've had are no doubt complicated and previously we've had people who don't know what they're doing. The delays have stopped people buying the kits, though the poor ordering hasn't helped either.

I reckon this will be a popular kit and as such let's hope we've ordered enough for demand.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 16, 2019, 12:55:17 PM
I'm having problems with adult sizes at the, ahem, more fully developed end of the scale.
(https://i.ibb.co/qWKhx20/Screenshot-20190716-134542.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tb6JrNK)
Am I thick or is something wrong with the measurements given for Chest 2XL-4XL?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 16, 2019, 12:57:14 PM
Pre match training top...


(https://i.ibb.co/HT7vZRW/D-Rer-FBU4-AEut-Oe.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HT7vZRW)


Prefer that to the main shirt!


That's a beautiful top Risso I really like it.

that should be the home shirt
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 16, 2019, 02:42:09 PM
I don't get the love-in for that shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 16, 2019, 02:43:20 PM
Reminds me of those pointless shuttered Kanye 'glasses' all the kids were wearing a decade ago...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Duncan Shaw on July 16, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
I think it's a lovely shirt, but imagine the meltdown if it was the home shirt!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 16, 2019, 03:29:44 PM
Hurry up and unveil the away one Villa.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 16, 2019, 09:29:51 PM
Away kit will be unveiled in Minnesota tomorrow morning. Not sure of the time.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 17, 2019, 07:17:08 AM
15:30 today our time.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 17, 2019, 09:19:58 AM
Given this effort by Huddersfield, I donít think there should many complaints from now on about the size of our sponsor logo!

https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 17, 2019, 09:23:46 AM
Wow! Is that for real?! 😳
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 17, 2019, 09:25:24 AM
Given this effort by Huddersfield, I donít think there should many complaints from now on about the size of our sponsor logo!

https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/
Fucking hell, that is horrific.  How on earth did the marketing guys / designers get that through?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 17, 2019, 09:28:35 AM
That's gotta be a publicity stunt, can't be real.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 17, 2019, 09:28:36 AM
Given this effort by Huddersfield, I donít think there should many complaints from now on about the size of our sponsor logo!

https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/
Fucking hell, that is horrific.  How on earth did the marketing guys / designers get that through?
The first 5 words are probably everybodyís reaction on seeing that monstrosity.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Walmley_Villa on July 17, 2019, 09:35:02 AM
Be thankful...we don't have the beauty pageant look...

(https://i.ibb.co/Lpfccs4/HTAFC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lpfccs4)


Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 17, 2019, 09:35:25 AM
I think that exceeds the maximum size allowed in England. If you were allowed sponsors that size, everyone would be plastered in them and look like Formula One teams like they do in France.

Reckon it's a wacky, "hilarious", Paddy Power wind up and the new shirt will be revealed soon.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on July 17, 2019, 09:36:46 AM
That must be a wind up. It is on their official site as well though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Walmley_Villa on July 17, 2019, 09:37:57 AM
Not sure it is a joke...

https://www.htafc.com/HomeKit (https://www.htafc.com/HomeKit)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 17, 2019, 09:38:46 AM
I think that exceeds the maximum size allowed in England. If you were allowed sponsors that size, everyone would be plastered in them and look like Formula One teams like they do in France.

Reckon it's a wacky, "hilarious", Paddy Power wind up and the new shirt will be revealed soon.

Yes, you are probably right.
That is so bad that the HT fans will be overjoyed with anything but that, regardless of how shit it is.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: themossman on July 17, 2019, 09:40:18 AM
Yeah it looks like lad bible bait.

As an aside, does anyone find all this lads, lads, lads *prank* stuff that ALL betting companies now engage in very unfunny and a bit sad?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 17, 2019, 09:46:17 AM
Not sure it is a joke...

https://www.htafc.com/HomeKit (https://www.htafc.com/HomeKit)

If that truly is their new kit, I despair for what football has become.

Has to be a joke though, surely.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 17, 2019, 09:47:46 AM
Must be a prank to generate more publicity...and it seems to be working.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 17, 2019, 10:24:07 AM
Yeah, if its a joke then it's pretty well played.

Their announcement video is pretty funny too.  Not sure I'd be happy if I was a Huddersfield fan though..

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1150691396464054276
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 17, 2019, 10:29:36 AM
Yeah, if its a joke then it's pretty well played.

Their announcement video is pretty funny too.  Not sure I'd be happy if I was a Huddersfield fan though..

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1150691396464054276


it is funny and pretty honest,  quite refreshing from the usual marketing speak on synergies and bollocks like that 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 17, 2019, 10:46:54 AM
Of course it's not legit! For one the rules prohibit it, 2. It's Paddy Power, 3. Huddersfield Town have more class than that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 17, 2019, 02:43:48 PM
15:30 today our time.

Has this been confirmed? I am looking forward to it and I think it will be far superior to the home shirt. Are we getting the third kit today as well?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 17, 2019, 02:47:54 PM
Yeah it looks like lad bible bait.

As an aside, does anyone find all this lads, lads, lads *prank* stuff that ALL betting companies now engage in very unfunny and a bit sad?

Yes, I wish women were in charge of the world.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 17, 2019, 03:04:46 PM
15:30 today our time.

Has this been confirmed? I am looking forward to it and I think it will be far superior to the home shirt. Are we getting the third kit today as well?

This via Pravda:

"In other news, our away kit will also be revealed at 4pm today across our social channels and simultaneously at our Lions Club Fan Zone in Minnesota!

Also available now is our goalkeeper kit and training range, which have both proved very popular with supporters.

Our third kit will be available next month."
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 17, 2019, 03:16:53 PM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Walmley_Villa on July 17, 2019, 03:36:29 PM
Son's have just called heading back from the club shop. Pretty busy but limited training wear available. Player version of the shirt has the rubber badge but fan version is sown on version. Sizes on the small size apparently so be generous...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 17, 2019, 03:37:14 PM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?

For me it harkens back to the Deadly Doug era and should be filed next to "ITSOTP" as a relic from a time before camera phones and real-time news updates which was inevitably ruled by misinformation (the irony). Back when most people's best guess regarding acquisitions in any given transfer window was the endless speculation about Benni McCarthy (who is definitely down the Belfry meeting with any of several Villa managers as we speak).

But, I could be wrong. It could be much older and the reasons much smarter than I'm giving us credit for...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 17, 2019, 04:04:40 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/DtwymQF/image.png) (https://ibb.co/DtwymQF)

Via the aforementioned Pravda. For anyone who's concerned the blue is too pale, I have been reassured by the Official Site's description of the shirt as "vista blue"...............
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 17, 2019, 04:07:42 PM
Any decent full size pictures of both kits? And are we not bothering with socks this season? Grealish's "shinpads" were bad enough.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 17, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
The video is clearly aimed at a much, much younger audience but I couldnít catch what it looked like and it was all a bit scruffy. My abiding memory is of the totally stunning black lady. Which made it OK.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 17, 2019, 04:12:35 PM
I think I like the kits, but they are being presented in such a naff, Chavvy, way that it's hard to be sure.

Just get some players to wear a kit and take some photos of them. Is it really that difficult?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 17, 2019, 04:13:44 PM
I think I like the kits, but they are being presented in such a naff, Chavvy, way that it's hard to be sure.

Just get some players to wear a kit and take some photos of them. Is it really that difficult?

I wanted to straighten out the creases 😀
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 17, 2019, 04:15:53 PM
I think I like the kits, but they are being presented in such a naff, Chavvy, way that it's hard to be sure.

Just get some players to wear a kit and take some photos of them. Is it really that difficult?

Yeah. I do find it ironic that the 'regular' replica kit (as distinct from the Elite version) is not what the models are wearing. Despite the try-hard urban/street tone of the photo shoots, they're wearing the more expensive/exclusive version of the shirt, which is being marketed as the players' version..........
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 17, 2019, 04:17:10 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/DtwymQF/image.png) (https://ibb.co/DtwymQF)

Via the aforementioned Pravda. For anyone who's concerned the blue is too pale, I have been reassured by the Official Site's description of the shirt as "vista blue"...............


I like the overall design, but those shoulders and sleeves are terrible.  Looks like it's been stitched together in the dark.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 17, 2019, 04:22:33 PM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?

I believe it means 'truth'.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 17, 2019, 04:23:38 PM
Both home and away look very, very cheap.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 17, 2019, 04:23:40 PM
Whoever came up with the idea to launch these kits needs be fired. Crap and tacky. The kits themselves and the training gear looks good but they missed the mark by a long way in how they have been presented.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on July 17, 2019, 04:27:33 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/ZGs8VHm/D-r9-T6d-X4-AEuvl-N.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZGs8VHm)




 (https://freeonlinedice.com/)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 17, 2019, 04:28:10 PM
Whoever came up with the idea to launch these kits needs be fired. Crap and tacky. The kits themselves and the training gear looks good but they missed the mark by a long way in how they have been presented.

Yep. The kits look like they should be a tenner each at Sports Direct and have been presented as such. Pretty much what I expected from a brand like Kappa to be honest, nasty chav shite.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on July 17, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?

I believe it means 'truth'.
Да, конечно.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on July 17, 2019, 04:29:40 PM
I think both are pretty shit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 17, 2019, 04:32:05 PM
Whoever came up with the idea to launch these kits needs be fired. Crap and tacky. The kits themselves and the training gear looks good but they missed the mark by a long way in how they have been presented.
I agree TV - bloody awful marketing - all very amateurish  - we seem to constantly screw up our kit launch  - oh well let's hope the players wearing the kit show a bit more class on the pitch
Incidentally what was the "surprise at  the kit launch?
No further player announcements by Tom Hanks I guess:)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 17, 2019, 04:33:41 PM
It's all very street innit bruv
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 17, 2019, 04:34:03 PM
Whoever came up with the idea to launch these kits needs be fired. Crap and tacky. The kits themselves and the training gear looks good but they missed the mark by a long way in how they have been presented.

Yep. The kits look like they should be a tenner each at Sports Direct and have been presented as such. Pretty much what I expected from a brand like Kappa to be honest, nasty chav shite.

I think that's a bit harsh though I did prefer the Luke kits overall. The club really botched the launch, if not the shirts themselves.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 17, 2019, 04:37:19 PM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?
It's the sort of topical, witty humour that gets us all invited to loads of parties.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villafirst on July 17, 2019, 04:44:27 PM
What a complete mess the unveiling of these kits has been! A bunch of scrawny chavs who look a complete shambles and in no way represent footballers!
 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on July 17, 2019, 04:51:41 PM
The girl is pretty cute. Freckles and all that.

I'm going to buy one I think. I quite like fitted stuff, so I can prance around looking like a ponce on Mondays at the back.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 17, 2019, 04:57:00 PM
I'm sure they'll be fine.  The Luke one's were a hard act to follow though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villafirst on July 17, 2019, 05:01:34 PM
Why don't they do six mock-up kit designs and let the fans choose via a poll? Not let some design marketing geek who hasn't got a clue have the final say.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ktvillan on July 17, 2019, 05:03:46 PM
A far cry from a wobbly bellied Stuart Downing marching up and down a catwalk in centenary square innit.   Them were the days.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on July 17, 2019, 05:06:53 PM
The girl is pretty cute. Freckles and all that.

I'm going to buy one I think. I quite like fitted stuff, so I can prance around looking like a ponce on Mondays at the back.

Zumba on Mondays Ads?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on July 17, 2019, 05:13:16 PM
Ha! Football.

Universally all the other players are Scousers, Man United or Man City fans. I feel duty bound now to get a shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villafirst on July 17, 2019, 05:33:46 PM
The launch video is totally awful! Loads of negative comments on Villa's twitter page. Get professionals next time, not a load of amateurs!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on July 17, 2019, 05:37:07 PM
Will the gold plated jewellery be available in the shop?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on July 17, 2019, 05:37:52 PM
Mint away kit
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 17, 2019, 05:47:51 PM
The launch video is totally awful! Loads of negative comments on Villa's twitter page. Get professionals next time, not a load of amateurs!

To make yourself feel a bit better, have a look at the West Ham one.  😱
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 17, 2019, 05:58:20 PM
They're OK I think. No problem in terms of the design other than the sleeves. The way they were launched was the problem. LAUNCH THEM IN MAY NEXT SEASON PLEASE VILLA.

As for the Luke shirts, is the away one available anywhere or is that gone forever now?



Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villadelph on July 17, 2019, 06:02:06 PM
Has anyone seen anything about a longsleeve option? I've always for a LS in the past. The fact that the URL on the OS designates Short Sleeve gives me hope.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 17, 2019, 06:03:00 PM
Are you in shape, Ads?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 17, 2019, 06:06:55 PM
Does it really matter what the launch was like? I mean, really matter?

Personally I couldn't care less if they'd just put it in the shop. It's a Villa top, we Villa fans are the only ones remotely interested. I just wish they'd release it earlier.

I agree, we were spoilt with the Luke top, best one for years, Imo, both in look and quality.

Whatever make, design or colours there will always be someone who's not happy
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villadelph on July 17, 2019, 06:22:28 PM
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Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 17, 2019, 06:31:45 PM
Does it really matter what the launch was like? I mean, really matter?

Personally I couldn't care less if they'd just put it in the shop. It's a Villa top, we Villa fans are the only ones remotely interested. I just wish they'd release it earlier.

I agree, we were spoilt with the Luke top, best one for years, Imo, both in look and quality.

Whatever make, design or colours there will always be someone who's not happy

The timing matters, the longer they leave it I'd imagine the less they sell. Also it's frustrating.

The Luke ones weren't that well received last year if I remember correctly, mainly because of the lack of blue sleeves. But the quality and fit is second to none. Wouldn't have minded him staying tbf.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on July 17, 2019, 06:48:49 PM
Are you in shape, Ads?

Hench me brah.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 17, 2019, 07:02:18 PM
People are asking for over £100 on ebay for last seasons shirt.  There's an away with tags for £195 and a second hand home one for £120!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 17, 2019, 07:17:11 PM
The launch looks like something straight out of the JD Sports urban catalogue...but both kits look very smart. Donít really understand the negative comments tbh but everyone has their own tastes and you canít please everyone.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 17, 2019, 07:28:36 PM
Does it really matter what the launch was like? I mean, really matter?

Personally I couldn't care less if they'd just put it in the shop. It's a Villa top, we Villa fans are the only ones remotely interested. I just wish they'd release it earlier.

I agree, we were spoilt with the Luke top, best one for years, Imo, both in look and quality.

Whatever make, design or colours there will always be someone who's not happy

The timing matters, the longer they leave it I'd imagine the less they sell. Also it's frustrating.

The Luke ones weren't that well received last year if I remember correctly, mainly because of the lack of blue sleeves. But the quality and fit is second to none. Wouldn't have minded him staying tbf.

Release both at the end of June, surely not much to ask, and don't bother with a fancy launch. Just stock the shop and sell.

I don't mind lack of blue sleeves, as long as there is some light blue on it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 17, 2019, 08:46:57 PM
People are asking for over £100 on ebay for last seasons shirt.  There's an away with tags for £195 and a second hand home one for £120!

That's absolutely mad. I had a feeling they would be sought after and hard to get which is why I did end up getting the home one in April I think it was. But that's crazy tbh. I'm keeping my eyes open for an away shirt as I expect there will be a few that pop up online if only for a short while.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 18, 2019, 12:00:22 AM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?
It's the sort of topical, witty humour that gets us all invited to loads of parties.

I like both kits. AND I was at a party earlier where I met Jacob Ree-Smog (who doesn't even support Middlesbrough, but was polite enough) and the dumpy, bumptious, odious, sweaty, short-arsed ******, Mark Francois, who was really nice. He was a bit of a dumpy, bumptious, odious, sweaty, short-arsed ****** for my tastes though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 18, 2019, 09:33:39 AM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?

Pravda was the official newspaper of the Soviet Union. It was basically a propaganda rag telling stirring tales of heroism to try to appease the disgruntled masses. There were no bad news stories.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on July 18, 2019, 10:23:37 AM
I ve seen mentioned re home and away kits reference to Holte and VP gates but canít see it in the shirts images Iíve seen.
Can anyone enlighten me please ?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 18, 2019, 10:50:38 AM
I ve seen mentioned re home and away kits reference to Holte and VP gates but canít see it in the shirts images Iíve seen.
Can anyone enlighten me please ?

On the children's one, there is a small picture of the Hole End on the inside underneath the size label.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 18, 2019, 11:23:01 AM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?
It's the sort of topical, witty humour that gets us all invited to loads of parties.

I like both kits. AND I was at a party earlier where I met Jacob Ree-Smog (who doesn't even support Middlesbrough, but was polite enough) and the dumpy, bumptious, odious, sweaty, short-arsed c***, Mark Francois, who was really nice. He was a bit of a dumpy, bumptious, odious, sweaty, short-arsed c*** for my tastes though.

I'm hoping you took the opportunity to spike the punch with some Purple Haze or Sunshine and opened their minds to Peace, Love and Understanding?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 18, 2019, 11:34:54 AM
I ve seen mentioned re home and away kits reference to Holte and VP gates but canít see it in the shirts images Iíve seen.
Can anyone enlighten me please ?

On the children's one, there is a small picture of the Hole End on the inside underneath the size label.

Game changer, that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 18, 2019, 12:05:12 PM
Why do we call the website Pravda.  Yes I'm aware of the Russian news agency.  Is that it, is that the joke?

Pravda was the official newspaper of the Soviet Union. It was basically a propaganda rag telling stirring tales of heroism to try to appease the disgruntled masses. There were no bad news stories.
So that IS the joke.  Crumbs.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 18, 2019, 12:09:18 PM
In almost every picture of this kit I've seen the shirt looks really creased and crumpled round the shoulders, particularly at the join of the sleeves to the body.  I know it sounds picky, but it just seems to be a really of odd fit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on July 18, 2019, 12:15:52 PM
I ve seen mentioned re home and away kits reference to Holte and VP gates but canít see it in the shirts images Iíve seen.
Can anyone enlighten me please ?

On the children's one, there is a small picture of the Hole End on the inside underneath the size label.

Game changer, that.

Iconic apparently
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 18, 2019, 12:58:01 PM
I ve seen mentioned re home and away kits reference to Holte and VP gates but canít see it in the shirts images Iíve seen.
Can anyone enlighten me please ?

On the children's one, there is a small picture of the Hole End on the inside underneath the size label.

Game changer, that.

Yup.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: hilts_coolerking on July 18, 2019, 01:10:05 PM
For an Aston Villa shirt, the least noticeable thing on it is the Aston Villa badge.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on July 18, 2019, 04:58:29 PM
Just had a fresh look at the promo photos of the new kit - home and away
Whatever were the marketing team thinking ? The "models"
Look as high as a kite and  could easily have had their images taken on a "Travellers site"
Likewise why on earth are they wearing different coloured clothing under the shirts .....as for the Kappa bum bag -wtf?
If any of our nearest rivals had put out such a dreadful kit release we would be ripping into them - for a club so seemingly well run the kit launch has been " a dog's dinner"
I tried to buy one of the new "pre match " tops  today, online
They are out  of stock !
Come on Villa sort it out ......
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 18, 2019, 05:01:59 PM
I recall someone saying they'd pay 20 quid extra for a no sponsor shirt.  Fill yer boots...
.
https://www.kappastore.eu/sports/clubs-football/aston-villa-fc.html
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 18, 2019, 05:03:19 PM
I recall someone saying they'd pay 20 quid extra for a no sponsor shirt.  Fill yer boots...
.
https://www.kappastore.eu/sports/clubs-football/aston-villa-fc.html


"Size and fit: No"
Had me laughing out loud. No indeed.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villafirst on July 18, 2019, 05:07:23 PM
The home shirt would look better with a light blue trim on the collar and a claret trim on the sleeves - it looks unfinished at present....
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Stu on July 18, 2019, 05:11:56 PM
The goalie shirt is absolutely mint. Having one of those.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 18, 2019, 05:13:41 PM
The goalie shirt is absolutely mint. Having one of those.

It's quite literally plain black with the badges on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Stu on July 18, 2019, 05:16:47 PM
The goalie shirt is absolutely mint. Having one of those.

It's quite literally plain black with the badges on.

Is it? Oh fuck. I don't like it any more then.


(https://i.ibb.co/LRmJFFr/emot-jerkbag.gif) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 18, 2019, 05:17:45 PM
I recall someone saying they'd pay 20 quid extra for a no sponsor shirt.  Fill yer boots...
.
https://www.kappastore.eu/sports/clubs-football/aston-villa-fc.html

So that would be the shirt the team wore last night.
ďKombat ProĒ...is that the ultra mega slim fit?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Small Rodent on July 18, 2019, 05:17:49 PM
The goalie shirt is absolutely mint. Having one of those.

It's quite literally plain black with the badges on.

Lev Yashin
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villabear on July 18, 2019, 05:22:50 PM
I'm not keen on either. The away looks especially cheap but then its not aimed at me I suppose.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 18, 2019, 05:30:43 PM
The goalie shirt is absolutely mint. Having one of those.

It's quite literally plain black with the badges on.

Yea, that's what's good about it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 18, 2019, 05:44:36 PM
The home shirt would look better with a light blue trim on the collar and a claret trim on the sleeves - it looks unfinished at present....

The home shirt would look better if it was made by another company.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 18, 2019, 05:50:27 PM
The home shirt would look better with a light blue trim on the collar and a claret trim on the sleeves - it looks unfinished at present....

Thought that at first,  but, I have to say I really like itas it its.
Tempted on the sponsor less shirt. Might see if they do it with the away one
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 18, 2019, 05:53:43 PM
In almost every picture of this kit I've seen the shirt looks really creased and crumpled round the shoulders, particularly at the join of the sleeves to the body.  I know it sounds picky, but it just seems to be a really of odd fit.

The Tunisia Kappa shirts have the same slightly rucked join between shoulder and sleeve, so maybe a fashion thing. Search me why though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 18, 2019, 06:04:52 PM
Up close the kits looked quite decent. Still not as good as the Luke kits for quality or the Acorns Nike ones.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 18, 2019, 06:13:55 PM
I recall someone saying they'd pay 20 quid extra for a no sponsor shirt.  Fill yer boots...
.
https://www.kappastore.eu/sports/clubs-football/aston-villa-fc.html


"Size and fit: No"
Had me laughing out loud. No indeed.
"Colour: Dark Red" is less amusing.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 18, 2019, 06:50:38 PM
Home shirt arrived today. The claret's less reddish than previous years, and the blue is a whole lot lighter.
The sleeves are a bit weird Ė even on the players, the top goes a bit puffy at the top of the shoulder which just seems like a basic thing to get wrong in the cut.

Overall, not hideous. Don't think it'll become a cult classic though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 18, 2019, 06:58:41 PM
In almost every picture of this kit I've seen the shirt looks really creased and crumpled round the shoulders, particularly at the join of the sleeves to the body.  I know it sounds picky, but it just seems to be a really of odd fit.

The Tunisia Kappa shirts have the same slightly rucked join between shoulder and sleeve, so maybe a fashion thing. Search me why though.
Maybe they're just shit at making sports garments.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Rich6by7 on July 18, 2019, 07:23:24 PM
This image of the third kit has appeared on Historical Kits (http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/English_Football_League/season/2019-2020/premier-league.html):

(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-2019-2020-3rd.gif)

It does state it's unconfirmed; any idea if there's any truth behind it?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 18, 2019, 07:55:25 PM
The goalie shirt is absolutely mint. Having one of those.

It's quite literally plain black with the badges on.

Is it? Oh fuck. I don't like it any more then.


(https://i.ibb.co/LRmJFFr/emot-jerkbag.gif) (https://imgbb.com/)


Oh no, not an emoji! Sap.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 19, 2019, 09:20:35 AM
https://twitter.com/UmbroUK/status/1152127164231356416?s=09 (https://twitter.com/UmbroUK/status/1152127164231356416?s=09)

So it was a hoax after all.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 19, 2019, 09:25:46 AM
https://twitter.com/UmbroUK/status/1152127164231356416?s=09 (https://twitter.com/UmbroUK/status/1152127164231356416?s=09)

So it was a hoax after all.

Oh that's nice. That's top notch. Well done Unbro, please make our kits after Kappa, please and thank you.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 19, 2019, 09:28:27 AM
https://twitter.com/UmbroUK/status/1152127164231356416?s=09 (https://twitter.com/UmbroUK/status/1152127164231356416?s=09)

So it was a hoax after all.

Oh that's nice. That's top notch. Well done Unbro, please make our kits after Kappa, please and thank you.
It is.

No surprise it's a hoax, but interesting they're prepared to pay for shirt sponsorship and not have their name on the shirts at all.  Guess they think the initial publicity was worth it.

Very nice shirt though.  Probably one of my favourites after ours.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 19, 2019, 09:29:00 AM
I've just seen the Hearts 3rd kit on the Umbro Twitter feed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/UmbroUK/status/1151906094379347973

Just beautiful.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on July 19, 2019, 09:31:41 AM
https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html (https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html)

You can get ours directly from Kappa without the sponsor, but it'll set you back about £100.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 19, 2019, 09:51:00 AM
https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html (https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html)

You can get ours directly from Kappa without the sponsor, but it'll set you back about £100.


Sounds reasonable. 🤔
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: UK Redsox on July 19, 2019, 10:17:19 AM
How on earth can they justify that price  :o
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on July 19, 2019, 10:20:35 AM
Greedy fuckers.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 19, 2019, 10:53:46 AM
I must say, my kids' ones with no sponsor on look great. It's not just that I don't like the fact it's a betting company, it just looks better.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 19, 2019, 10:57:13 AM
https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html (https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html)

You can get ours directly from Kappa without the sponsor, but it'll set you back about £100.


Sounds reasonable. 🤔
F... - I ordered the Kombat Fit from our site - with sponsor, if I knew it was possible without, I would have gone for this - looks great without.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on July 19, 2019, 11:05:36 AM
https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html (https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html)

You can get ours directly from Kappa without the sponsor, but it'll set you back about £100.


Sounds reasonable. 🤔
F... - I ordered the Kombat Fit from our site - with sponsor, if I knew it was possible without, I would have gone for this - looks great without.

Return it!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on July 19, 2019, 11:08:38 AM
Just been to the shop for gear for my holders, got a pair of shorts .Kids training gear is in but hardly any of the adults. Lost a sale to me.
And the away shirt is nice but the claret shorts are the wrong colour
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 19, 2019, 11:51:31 AM
How on earth can they justify that price  :o

Not that I'm saying this justifies it but the one on sale there is the one the players wear, not a replica that is meant for supporters. The player issued stuff is always more expensive. Nike, Puma, Adidas and the like do the same.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on July 19, 2019, 06:30:40 PM
Been up there today to get the lad a new shirt. He's 13, fairly tall for his age, and doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. Looked in the kids section to get him a shirt, Age 14 shirt tried on despite it looking a bit small - and it was, it would have probably fitted my 9 year old daughter. No bigger kids sizes are made than the 14 years so I then had to have the moral dilemma of getting him an 'adult' shirt with that fucking monstrosity of a gambling site on the shirt. He tried on the small mens shirt and that wasn't great, he ended up with a Mens Medium size shirt. I couldn't help but rant at the staff, it is so, so wrong that I've got a Villa mad 13 year old kid wanting a shirt and I can't purchase him a blank one. I ranted at the staff about it who acknowledge they "come up small". I know it isn't the staff on duty at fault of course but it isn't right. I was told that they're not meant to knowingly sell a shirt with gambling sites on them to a 13 year old.


A fella next to me was trying on a shirt, of medium physique he ended up having to buy an XL shirt. This Kappa deal may well be a great deal for the club financially, and the sponsors may well be chucking us a load of money but the shirts (and Kappa) are absolute shit with the sizing. They come up so small. 

Really, really disappointed with this as there clearly is no intention of having a 'youth' 13-17 year old option of plain replica shirt. Last year the lad had all 3 Luke kits and they were superb. This won't happen this year.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 19, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
I guess combatis the figure hugging version
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 19, 2019, 06:53:32 PM
Been up there today to get the lad a new shirt. He's 13, fairly tall for his age, and doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. Looked in the kids section to get him a shirt, Age 14 shirt tried on despite it looking a bit small - and it was, it would have probably fitted my 9 year old daughter. No bigger kids sizes are made than the 14 years that so I then had to have the moral dilemma of getting him an 'adult' shirt with that fucking monstrosity of a gambling site on the shirt. He tried on the small mens shirt and that wasn't great, he ended up with a Mens Medium size shirt. I couldn't help but rant at the staff, it is so, so wrong that I've got a Villa mad 13 year old kid wanting a shirt and I can't purchase him a blank one. I ranted at the staff about it who acknowledge they "come up small". I know it isn't the staff on duty at fault of course but it isn't right. I was told that they're not meant to knowingly sell a shirt with gambling sites on them to a 13 year old.


A fella next to me was trying on a shirt, of medium physique he ended up having to buy an XL shirt. This Kappa deal may well be a great deal for the club financially, and the sponsors may well be chucking us a load of money but the shirts (and Kappa) are absolute shit with the sizing. They come up so small. 

Really, really disappointed with this as there clearly is no intention of having a 'youth' 13-17 year old option of plain replica shirt. Last year the lad had all 3 Luke kits and they were superb. This won't happen this year.

I agree it needs sorting. Hopefully we won't be with Kappa for long and we can switch to a decent manufacturer such as Adidas or Umbro.

I know it isn't ideal but retro is always an option and the club do have some beautiful Umbro 80s shirts.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on July 19, 2019, 06:57:58 PM
Been up there today to get the lad a new shirt. He's 13, fairly tall for his age, and doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. Looked in the kids section to get him a shirt, Age 14 shirt tried on despite it looking a bit small - and it was, it would have probably fitted my 9 year old daughter. No bigger kids sizes are made than the 14 years that so I then had to have the moral dilemma of getting him an 'adult' shirt with that fucking monstrosity of a gambling site on the shirt. He tried on the small mens shirt and that wasn't great, he ended up with a Mens Medium size shirt. I couldn't help but rant at the staff, it is so, so wrong that I've got a Villa mad 13 year old kid wanting a shirt and I can't purchase him a blank one. I ranted at the staff about it who acknowledge they "come up small". I know it isn't the staff on duty at fault of course but it isn't right. I was told that they're not meant to knowingly sell a shirt with gambling sites on them to a 13 year old.


A fella next to me was trying on a shirt, of medium physique he ended up having to buy an XL shirt. This Kappa deal may well be a great deal for the club financially, and the sponsors may well be chucking us a load of money but the shirts (and Kappa) are absolute shit with the sizing. They come up so small. 

Really, really disappointed with this as there clearly is no intention of having a 'youth' 13-17 year old option of plain replica shirt. Last year the lad had all 3 Luke kits and they were superb. This won't happen this year.

I agree it needs sorting. Hopefully we won't be with Kappa for long and we can switch to a decent manufacturer such as Adidas or Umbro.

I know it isn't ideal but retro is always an option and the club do have some beautiful Umbro 80s shirts.

I hear you, and I have only purchased retro in the last few years, however 13 year old kids want the latest stuff. I even tried to coax him into having the advert free training clobber instead, but once again the sizing was an issue as he needed mens sizes in the Krapper stuff.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 19, 2019, 06:58:49 PM
The Paddy Power stunt is part of a campaign they are trying to encourage the end of shirt sponsorship apparently.

Article and pictures of all the PL home kits without sponsorship - https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/how-all-20-premier-league-home-shirts-would-look-without-sponsors-236943
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Mister E on July 19, 2019, 06:58:55 PM
I hardly ever buy Villa kit from Villa and never with a sponsor on the shirt (other than the Acorns shirt).
The experiences above from Edvard, PM#5S and others are just not acceptable. As someone who used to be in consumer marketing, it brings the tears to my eyes to read about such inattention to consumer needs ... like, basic sizing and correct order-fulfilment!
After all this time in the consumption era of football gazillions, you'd expect the basics of customer satisfaction to be right.

When's the next fans-forum with the club?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: wombat on July 19, 2019, 07:28:35 PM
The Paddy Power stunt is part of a campaign they are trying to encourage the end of shirt sponsorship apparently.

Article and pictures of all the PL home kits without sponsorship - https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/how-all-20-premier-league-home-shirts-would-look-without-sponsors-236943

Looking at those... Watford.... good grief what were they thinking!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: themossman on July 19, 2019, 08:34:51 PM
Fair dos, actually a pretty decent campaign from paddy power. Get all their bang for buck at the start with all the news coverage, so can afford not to stick their name on the shirts. I didnít realise they had spoken against intrusive shirt sponsors.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 19, 2019, 08:42:59 PM
I hardly ever buy Villa kit from Villa and never with a sponsor on the shirt (other than the Acorns shirt).
The experiences above from Edvard, PM#5S and others are just not acceptable. As someone who used to be in consumer marketing, it brings the tears to my eyes to read about such inattention to consumer needs ... like, basic sizing and correct order-fulfilment!
After all this time in the consumption era of football gazillions, you'd expect the basics of customer satisfaction to be right.

When's the next fans-forum with the club?

Where do you get them without sponsor?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on July 19, 2019, 08:54:27 PM
https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html (https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html)

You can get ours directly from Kappa without the sponsor, but it'll set you back about £100.


Sounds reasonable. 🤔


Last night it was available on www.kappastore.co.uk

£80, free delivery over £70, 10% off first order so the expensive version without sponsor £72 delivered.

I was going to call kitbag today to ask to cancel my regular shirt, thought worth the extra for no sponsor, but theyíve been frustratingly efficient and despatched.

Now itís been taken off the  UK site, so on
https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html
 itís Ä110 -10% (code KAPPA4YOU) & free DHL= Ä99 =£89

Small print does say something about duty charges being recipientís responsibility, Iím not clear where this would be dispatched from, but could be 20% plus admin fee if got hit for that I guess. Has anybody ordered?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cheltenhamlion on July 19, 2019, 09:11:39 PM
How much? For a shirt? Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: wozwebs on July 19, 2019, 09:13:53 PM
With that one does it actually confirm that there will be no sponsor on it? I just thought they had the photo prepared before the sponsorship announcement but when you receive it then it will have the sponsor on it? Any way of peeling it off anyway from the standard one purchased at the shop?

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Mister E on July 19, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
I hardly ever buy Villa kit from Villa and never with a sponsor on the shirt (other than the Acorns shirt).
The experiences above from Edvard, PM#5S and others are just not acceptable. As someone who used to be in consumer marketing, it brings the tears to my eyes to read about such inattention to consumer needs ... like, basic sizing and correct order-fulfilment!
After all this time in the consumption era of football gazillions, you'd expect the basics of customer satisfaction to be right.

When's the next fans-forum with the club?

Where do you get them without sponsor?
Classic shirts before the age of sponsorship.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on July 19, 2019, 09:27:54 PM
How much? For a shirt? Fucking hell.

I agree, this is my version of a midlife crisis, and having gone in for £50, somehow decided it might be justifiable to pay yet more not to be a walking billboard. Iím preferring the idea of getting shot of some coconut oil thatís been in the cupboard for a while though.

Slightly more concerned if my shirt will be too small from the above descriptions...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: themossman on July 19, 2019, 09:48:43 PM
People are asking for over £100 on ebay for last seasons shirt.  There's an away with tags for £195 and a second hand home one for £120!

My little girlís first games last season and her first shirt, complete with McGinn 7. Think thatíll be a v special shirt in years to come.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KevinGage on July 20, 2019, 12:16:29 AM
The home kit looks absolutely fine, judging from the pics from the Minnesota game.

(https://i.ibb.co/2k5g3Hh/Jota-Minnesota.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jrHgksf)

It's that oversized bollocks of a sponsor that ruins it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 20, 2019, 08:20:35 AM
Black shirt is now small only on the web site. 🙄
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 20, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
I hardly ever buy Villa kit from Villa and never with a sponsor on the shirt (other than the Acorns shirt).
The experiences above from Edvard, PM#5S and others are just not acceptable. As someone who used to be in consumer marketing, it brings the tears to my eyes to read about such inattention to consumer needs ... like, basic sizing and correct order-fulfilment!
After all this time in the consumption era of football gazillions, you'd expect the basics of customer satisfaction to be right.

When's the next fans-forum with the club?

Where do you get them without sponsor?
Classic shirts before the age of sponsorship.

Ah, misunderstanding,  thought you meant you could get the up to date ones without, too
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 20, 2019, 03:36:33 PM
Wearing the (regular version of) the new home kit as we speak. Quality not as good as last year's and the fit is definitely a lot more snug as expected from Kappa so I should probably have squeezed my expanding gut into a Large, but it's fine. The non-rubber stitched badge still has some interesting texture on the lion if you care about that sort of thing, overall I don't mind the cut - even at the shoulders, strange as the seams are - but agree that the sponsor is much too big.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 20, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
Anyone know if the shop has the new keepers top in a variety of sizes in store?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: john e on July 20, 2019, 04:18:19 PM
if you order a shirt on line with a name on the back how long does it take for delivery

anyone know ?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave shelley on July 20, 2019, 04:36:13 PM
if you order a shirt on line with a name on the back how long does it take for delivery

anyone know ?

If your name is Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink I would imagine about eighteen months!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on July 20, 2019, 04:52:40 PM
Well his surname is 'e' according to his H&V profile, so John, it's your lucky day mate!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 21, 2019, 10:16:06 AM
There were some who thought our kit unveiling was a bit Ďchavvyí

Take a look at this Trabsonspor kit unveiling video.

https://twitter.com/zachlowy/status/1152597859126128641?s=21
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 21, 2019, 11:37:34 AM
There were some who thought our kit unveiling was a bit Ďchavvyí

Take a look at this Trabsonspor kit unveiling video.

https://twitter.com/zachlowy/status/1152597859126128641?s=21

Now, that is excellent.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 21, 2019, 02:04:57 PM
There were some who thought our kit unveiling was a bit Ďchavvyí

Take a look at this Trabsonspor kit unveiling video.

https://twitter.com/zachlowy/status/1152597859126128641?s=21

Excellent!  We should get the old lady to knock up our kits as well, be much better than bloody Kappa.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on July 21, 2019, 02:40:07 PM
That was delightful.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 21, 2019, 05:39:25 PM
There were some who thought our kit unveiling was a bit Ďchavvyí

Take a look at this Trabsonspor kit unveiling video.

https://twitter.com/zachlowy/status/1152597859126128641?s=21

That's absolutely superb.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 21, 2019, 05:40:43 PM
Horrible kit though
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 22, 2019, 09:06:25 AM
The sight at the beginning of the video of that claret and blue shirt with vertical stripes gave me bad flashbacks to Nov'94 and Trabzonspor knocking us out of the Uefa Cup at VP while wearing our colours.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on July 22, 2019, 09:37:27 AM
Is there anywhere you can actually see the away kit properly?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 22, 2019, 11:33:40 AM
Is there anywhere you can actually see the away kit properly?

Not really. Mad, isn't it?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 22, 2019, 11:51:10 AM
Yeah, shit. Is it on sale in the 'Village'?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on July 22, 2019, 12:03:30 PM
It's on display at t' village
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on July 22, 2019, 12:17:29 PM
Convenient.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on July 22, 2019, 12:23:00 PM
It's on display at t' village

You mean in a portacabin or tent ? Thought 22nd was the day they were starting to demolish ticket office and shop ?
Whilst they continue to add grey cladding to outside of north stand to spruce it up
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on July 22, 2019, 12:27:34 PM
Woeful marketing for this seasonís kit launch. No pics of the away kit on the official site yet?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on July 22, 2019, 12:30:16 PM
It's on display at t' village

You mean in a portacabin or tent ? Thought 22nd was the day they were starting to demolish ticket office and shop ?
Whilst they continue to add grey cladding to outside of north stand to spruce it up
No.Inside.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JJ-AV on July 22, 2019, 12:30:48 PM
Do you get any 'Villa cash' or anything with a season ticket to use on a shirt? Want to buy my nephew one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 22, 2019, 01:10:16 PM
I went to the store to see the kit in real life

Nice home kit - although £85 for the "Elite" shirt is a bit steep - but colours look good

Away kit - I always like the away's but this left me a bit underwhelmed - its nowhere near as vivid as the mock up ones we all saw.

3rd kit - no sign of it

Keepers - black short sleeves??? With a squiggle pattern on the shoulders

Overall the marketing has been awful - I know it has to pander to the yoof but if that's what the kids are into God help all of us
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 22, 2019, 01:10:48 PM
It's on display at t' village

You mean in a portacabin or tent ? Thought 22nd was the day they were starting to demolish ticket office and shop ?
Whilst they continue to add grey cladding to outside of north stand to spruce it up
No.Inside.

It looks more like it has been acid washed than cladding
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 22, 2019, 03:16:31 PM
I went to the store to see the kit in real life

Nice home kit - although £85 for the "Elite" shirt is a bit steep - but colours look good

Away kit - I always like the away's but this left me a bit underwhelmed - its nowhere near as vivid as the mock up ones we all saw.

3rd kit - no sign of it

Keepers - black short sleeves??? With a squiggle pattern on the shoulders

Overall the marketing has been awful - I know it has to pander to the yoof but if that's what the kids are into God help all of us

Agreed, the whole launch has been a botch job.

The plus for me was how quickly they got the deliveries out (at least in my case - came overseas in 3 days, dispatched before the official launch day too).

Hopefully next year we get this right - earlier launch, less fecking about with random models and Michael Bay cinematography.

The kits are fine. Not spectacular. Luke's effort was better, and slightly better quality too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2019, 04:08:06 PM
To me next year is the test for this not this. Coming into this summer I imagine a lot hinged on which division we were in. As much as the kit launch is important there were lots of other pressing needs to address with the existing staff. I would hope and expect that we will be better equipped in all areas including qualified manpower to make many of our marketing activities PL quality in 2020.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on July 22, 2019, 04:19:01 PM
Do you get any 'Villa cash' or anything with a season ticket to use on a shirt? Want to buy my nephew one.

Didappointingly (having got first ST in years) no, I asked on the phone and as itís now outsourced, so no discounts. Itís run by kitbag so you are cheaper to order from their site direct and get a 10% off as new customer.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 22, 2019, 06:03:27 PM
ok, for those who have purchased, what's the sizing like for the fat fit shirts?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 22, 2019, 11:26:20 PM
I've seen a few people on Facebook saying to check the back of the shirts as some have an imprint of the badge on the back.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on July 22, 2019, 11:37:17 PM
ok, for those who have purchased, what's the sizing like for the fat fit shirts?

Iíve always found shirts come up way too big, eg a Medium in some brands might have been plenty big enough, whereas my Large is just ok, never ordered XL in my life but would have probably been a bit more roomy for this. So go larger than you think, was what I learned earlier in the thread...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2019, 08:50:31 AM
ok, for those who have purchased, what's the sizing like for the fat fit shirts?

Iíve always found shirts come up way too big, eg a Medium in some brands might have been plenty big enough, whereas my Large is just ok, never ordered XL in my life but would have probably been a bit more roomy for this. So go larger than you think, was what I learned earlier in the thread...
Thanks.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2019, 12:17:34 PM
Someone asked on here about a proper viewing of away kit.
Itís on sale pre order tomorrow, and club have tweeted this pic...


(https://i.ibb.co/7kswfKw/70074121-360-E-4515-BB40-65191-DD285-C2.png) (https://ibb.co/7kswfKw)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 23, 2019, 05:35:04 PM
Bloody hell the skinny fuckers fit looks tight...
https://twitter.com/kierenjames90/status/1153664294040539136
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on July 23, 2019, 05:57:45 PM
😂😂😂 Gues mine will be a present then
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on July 23, 2019, 08:28:42 PM
post deleted sorry
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villadelph on July 23, 2019, 09:43:31 PM
Bloody hell the skinny fuckers fit looks tight...
https://twitter.com/kierenjames90/status/1153664294040539136

wow.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 23, 2019, 09:54:02 PM
Bloody hell the skinny fuckers fit looks tight...
https://twitter.com/kierenjames90/status/1153664294040539136

wow.

Poor fella, just spent a fortune on all that!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Davkaus on July 23, 2019, 10:13:23 PM
No matter how slim you are, if you're a bloke with your nips are on show, you look like a nob. Best avoided!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Baldy on July 24, 2019, 11:16:03 AM
Manchester City's third kit next year is a mixture of peach and yellow. Looks shyte.

However, where the players name is normally printed on the back of the shirt has been replaced with the name of Tecno, one of their sponsors. City signed a lucrative sponsorship deal with them and you can't help but notice the sponsors name!!

The players name is now printed just above their arse.

Personally, I found it annoying and at first thought City had a lot of players called Tecno when they played Wolves about a week ago in Asia. But money talks, should Villa offer the same to their sponsors???
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 24, 2019, 01:10:19 PM

Give it a few more years and the whole kit will look like a racing drivers is wearing it - quite sad but "That's the Premiership"
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 25, 2019, 09:43:59 AM
As AndyH said during the game last night...
In action, that kit looks like itís got a lovely Ď80ís look about it.
Some may dislike the design and Kappa, but itís simple design makes it look classic and timeless.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on July 25, 2019, 11:40:30 AM
Manchester City's third kit next year is a mixture of peach and yellow. Looks shyte.

However, where the players name is normally printed on the back of the shirt has been replaced with the name of Tecno, one of their sponsors. City signed a lucrative sponsorship deal with them and you can't help but notice the sponsors name!!

The players name is now printed just above their arse.

Personally, I found it annoying and at first thought City had a lot of players called Tecno when they played Wolves about a week ago in Asia. But money talks, should Villa offer the same to their sponsors???

"And today's team is Techno, Techno, Techno, Techno, Techno, Techno, Techno, Techno, Techno, Techno, Techno. There's no limit to what they can achieve."
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 25, 2019, 11:59:11 AM
As AndyH said during the game last night...
In action, that kit looks like itís got a lovely Ď80ís look about it.
Some may dislike the design and Kappa, but itís simple design makes it look classic and timeless.

That's one opinion.  I think it looks cheap and tacky.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 27, 2019, 12:38:37 AM
For those that like the keeper shirts, there's a yellow one now available in the Villa shop online...not bad if you like yellow.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: wittonwarrior on July 27, 2019, 11:00:26 AM
Poor quality, misleading  sizing, no doubt shop/retail staff up the wall -not the best advert for the club.  If you only compare the quality alone, you will see immediately what a massive clanger Villa have dropped.  Can imagine very few mail order purchases from hereon in during the lifetime of Kappa. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 27, 2019, 11:06:51 AM
How long is the Kappa contract for? They've always been a godawful brand, and this year's kit just reinforces my opinion of them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on July 27, 2019, 11:18:02 AM
How long is the Kappa contract for? They've always been a godawful brand, and this year's kit just reinforces my opinion of them.

Hopefully we'll bin them at the end of the season. Awful brand.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 27, 2019, 11:21:09 AM
I'm hoping we stick with a manufacturer for a few years. Sick of changing every year and not having the kit on sale until summer is nearly over as a result.

Anyway, this year's kits seem great (well, based on what I can ascertain from the abysmal kit launch).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 27, 2019, 11:29:39 AM
Iíve never liked Kappa as a brand (going back to the days of Sergio Tacchini, Ellesse and Fila), but I canít really fault the kits or training gear (even though admittedly I havenít seen any in the flesh yet).

Iíd be surprised if we have a contract with Kappa for just one season, and I would imagine weíd have the launch and supply issues repeated again if we did change manufacturer...however an adidas kit is long overdue!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 27, 2019, 11:38:30 AM
I dunno. With Adidas we would just be one of many. Same when we were with Nike, they didn't seem to give the slightest shit. Maybe better to be a big fish in a small pond?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 27, 2019, 11:46:30 AM
Do any of them really give a shit though? Presumably weíd have an account manager at any manufacturer who deals with everything from design to supply with our own club representative. Weíve had these kit and merchandise issues for years so may be the real issue is closer to home rather than the fault of the various manufacturers.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 27, 2019, 11:49:40 AM
We do seem to change every year, then wait a few weeks for the announcement of who the new manufacturers are going to be, then (at least) a few more weeks for the new kit.

We also do the same with the sponsor.

I'd like to see us get some long term deals so we can have the kit on display last home game of each season, and then have it on sale in early June.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on July 27, 2019, 01:13:44 PM
What are the sizes like?

I fancy getting one to play football in, as I'm tired of Liverpool, Man United,  Everton and Man City everywhere. I dont mind them being tight, but will your normal size correspond or do you need to go one up?

Also, I'm getting Maximus one, are the children's shirts sized well?

Has to be online unfortunately so no try before I buy.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on July 27, 2019, 01:29:55 PM
I dunno. With Adidas we would just be one of many. Same when we were with Nike, they didn't seem to give the slightest shit. Maybe better to be a big fish in a small pond?

Don't the owners have something to do with Adidas? I imagine they'd look after us if so.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 27, 2019, 01:31:40 PM
I dunno. With Adidas we would just be one of many. Same when we were with Nike, they didn't seem to give the slightest shit. Maybe better to be a big fish in a small pond?

Don't the owners have something to do with Adidas? I imagine they'd look after us if so.

Yes Sawiris has a 10%(?) stake and I think sits on the board.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on July 27, 2019, 01:51:03 PM
What are the sizes like?

I fancy getting one to play football in, as I'm tired of Liverpool, Man United,  Everton and Man City everywhere. I dont mind them being tight, but will your normal size correspond or do you need to go one up?

Also, I'm getting Maximus one, are the children's shirts sized well?

Has to be online unfortunately so no try before I buy.

Most people are saying on Twitter that they're a couple of sizes out (ie smaller) from what you'd expect, and don't even think about the "elite" one unless you can see your ribcage sticking out like a xylophone.  I normally buy one each year for Tuesday night 5 aside, but won't be this year.

Cheers. I'm one of those gimps that could rock the Elite fit, but £80?! Pft!

Kids are out of stock until August 18th. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2019, 10:13:07 PM
The away kit today looked absolutely solid.


(https://i.ibb.co/jM9KMZ7/9-C766165-7-A5-C-4-B7-C-8334-669-B28-CB307-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jM9KMZ7)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on July 27, 2019, 10:25:06 PM
Looks bang on to me. Canít fault it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 27, 2019, 10:26:42 PM
It looks like WBA on the front.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on July 27, 2019, 10:45:09 PM
I thought the away strip looked great today, and I like the home strip more than recent efforts too. The logoís rather naff, and the shoulder tuck odd, but then I wonít be wearing one, so my opinion is a bit moot.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on July 27, 2019, 10:56:04 PM
I love both home and away more than those of previous years. I think iíll be investing in those claret away shorts at least.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Lastfootstamper on July 27, 2019, 11:15:07 PM
My brother bought his nine year old son a home shirt today. He's tall, but not particularly big at all. Size wise, he could've fitted the 14 yrs boys' shirt, but went for the kombat small men's in the end. And get this, my fellow old farts, he went for that one because he preferred the shirt with the sponsor on. Weirdo.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on July 27, 2019, 11:33:14 PM
My brother bought his nine year old son a home shirt today. He's tall, but not particularly big at all. Size wise, he could've fitted the 14 yrs boys' shirt, but went for the kombat small men's in the end. And get this, my fellow old farts, he went for that one because he preferred the shirt with the sponsor on. Weirdo.

Most kids want shirts with sponsors on as they just want to look like the players. My lad is repeatedly disappointed when yet another gambling sponsor gets announced as it means he has to have a plain shirt.   

Iíd prefer one without a sponsor personally, but kids think differently.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on July 27, 2019, 11:41:45 PM
What are the sizes like?

I fancy getting one to play football in, as I'm tired of Liverpool, Man United,  Everton and Man City everywhere. I dont mind them being tight, but will your normal size correspond or do you need to go one up?

Also, I'm getting Maximus one, are the children's shirts sized well?

Has to be online unfortunately so no try before I buy.

Most people are saying on Twitter that they're a couple of sizes out (ie smaller) from what you'd expect, and don't even think about the "elite" one unless you can see your ribcage sticking out like a xylophone.  I normally buy one each year for Tuesday night 5 aside, but won't be this year.

Cheers. I'm one of those gimps that could rock the Elite fit, but £80?! Pft!

Kids are out of stock until August 18th. Hmmmm.
ping Pong
Bad English to the thread please ď rockĒ
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 27, 2019, 11:54:32 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw a photo that showed the sizes were exactly the same width as last year except in the player issue replica Pro thingy. The only difference is that this year's are shorter?

I like the kit, the colour works, the sleeves are blue, and let's face it, I'm not sure anyone on a midweek 5-a-side is going to notice, never mind comment, on whether the stitching on your sleeves is lovely.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on July 28, 2019, 09:04:16 AM
My brother bought his nine year old son a home shirt today. He's tall, but not particularly big at all. Size wise, he could've fitted the 14 yrs boys' shirt, but went for the kombat small men's in the end. And get this, my fellow old farts, he went for that one because he preferred the shirt with the sponsor on. Weirdo.

Same with my kid, advertising some dodgy gambling firm cost me an extra £20.

Yes, I could have said no.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 28, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
The away kit today looked absolutely solid.


(https://i.ibb.co/jM9KMZ7/9-C766165-7-A5-C-4-B7-C-8334-669-B28-CB307-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jM9KMZ7)

Think this away kit/top could become a classic. Best one for ages.
If I could find a way of getting a sponsorless one, without paying the earth.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on July 28, 2019, 09:15:57 AM
Kids want to look like the players and have the proper kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on July 28, 2019, 09:23:50 AM
I donít think sheís ever going to look like any of the players. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: charleeco7 on July 31, 2019, 12:57:39 AM
My brother bought his nine year old son a home shirt today. He's tall, but not particularly big at all. Size wise, he could've fitted the 14 yrs boys' shirt, but went for the kombat small men's in the end. And get this, my fellow old farts, he went for that one because he preferred the shirt with the sponsor on. Weirdo.

Same with my kid, advertising some dodgy gambling firm cost me an extra £20.

Yes, I could have said no.

My lads the same heís six and canít get his head around the idea that he canít have a shirt exactly the same as his heroes.
Usual scenario raises its ugly head again though as you canít get one at all at the moment. Canít even Pre order the kids shorts as no option on the website. Youíd think theyíd get the gist now of how many we may actually sell so order enough stock in.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 01, 2019, 05:42:22 PM
Ok... tight fit it's only for shredded persons🤐
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dean saunders left boot on August 01, 2019, 05:47:02 PM
Today I thought i'd take a trip over to VP to get the new shirt, I like the design, but had read about the sizing issues, this one coming up a lot smaller than past shirts, so thought I better look to try it on to check what size i'd need rather than order one online and find I had to try and send it back. Take train from Tamworth to Brum then over to Witton, get to the club shop to find them completely out of XL or XXL shirts, the two sizes I would most likely need at a guess, which was massively frustrating, as they must have had plenty of feedback about the shirt sizing by now and should have been looking to get more larger shirt stock in.

 Once back in Brum city centre I popped in JD Sports to see if they had had the shirt in yet, to speak to a very frustrated member of staff who has spent the last week or so since the shirt came out having to tell customers they've not had it in, being told that they were having it the next day, only for them to be told the next day it's going to be the next day and so on and so forth.

The whole thing with the shirt just seems a bit shit, from the sizing, lack of availability of sizes, or availability in any sports shops.

I probably won't bother buying the shirt now, match day would be too much hassle to try and try a shirt on in club shop
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villadelph on August 01, 2019, 07:58:34 PM
VILLA ARE SELLIN SHIRTS BABBYYYY
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on August 01, 2019, 10:28:12 PM
Images from a premier league handbook detailing all teams first 3 kits leaked on twitter tonight.
I think it looks awful....


(https://i.ibb.co/7tNxvCf/0605-FB23-D901-4-B0-E-A017-292485832639.png) (https://ibb.co/7tNxvCf)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 01, 2019, 10:33:43 PM
Looks great to me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: four fornicholl on August 04, 2019, 01:08:54 PM
West Ham have really nailed it with their kits this year, the away is an absolute beauty. Umbro please next season, Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 04, 2019, 01:17:44 PM
Our kits are great this year. I'm in no rush to change. In fact, I don't want us to. Forget arsing about all summer looking for a new kit manufacturer and have at least one of the kits for sale before the end of May.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 04, 2019, 01:21:40 PM
West Ham have really nailed it with their kits this year, the away is an absolute beauty. Umbro please next season, Aston Villa.

Gotta say I love their home one, it was my brothers first kit in the late 70s, bit like our throw back of last years 83 season. Our away kit is really nice this season, always like it when we play in claret shorts away from home.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: four fornicholl on August 04, 2019, 01:28:12 PM
West Ham have really nailed it with their kits this year, the away is an absolute beauty. Umbro please next season, Aston Villa.

Gotta say I love their home one, it was my brothers first kit in the late 70s, bit like our throw back of last years 83 season. Our away kit is really nice this season, always like it when we play in claret shorts away from home.
I also likie this years away, would however prefer more white on one side a la mita 88.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JJ-AV on August 04, 2019, 01:30:55 PM
It looks considerably better without the sponsor.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: four fornicholl on August 04, 2019, 02:29:54 PM
Our kits are great this year. I'm in no rush to change. In fact, I don't want us to. Forget arsing about all summer looking for a new kit manufacturer and have at least one of the kits for sale before the end of May.
We will almost certainly change manufacturers next season, once we've cemented our premier league place and can negotiate a lucrative 3 to 5 year deal. Preferably with Umbro. My mistake, didn't realise it was a 3 year deal. :-[
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 04, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
We never get three to five year deals. We will be negotiating a new deal in 2020, and again in 2021, 2022, etc.

Nobody will ever purchase a new Villa kit in June.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 04, 2019, 02:43:33 PM
Thatís not necessarily true. The last few years have been entirely volatile commercially. If we can cement ourselves in the PL thereís no reason as we canít sign a longer term deal which includes a shirt sponsor.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on August 04, 2019, 10:15:34 PM
It looks considerably better without the sponsor.

Sure does. Ordered my bro and nephewís home shirts direct from Kappa minus the sponsor. Elite fit only, and actually the same price as elite fit from the club shop with 10% off your first order. Winner
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 04, 2019, 11:12:16 PM
What does "elite fit" mean? Does it have an extra pocket for your monocle?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 04, 2019, 11:16:13 PM
ďElite fitĒ basically means painted on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 04, 2019, 11:24:38 PM
Tighter fit for the more athletic and svelte physique. Some minor differences depending on the manufacturer, for example Nike's versions have heat transferred crests and extra ventilation.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 05, 2019, 09:58:57 AM
Tighter fit for the more athletic and svelte physique. Some minor differences depending on the manufacturer, for example Nike's versions have heat transferred crests and extra ventilation.
The  XL will sit tight on anyone normal to a M - but can probably be stretched to XXXL also
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 08, 2019, 04:51:59 PM
I gave in and bought the away one to play five aside in, mainly because the Premier League badges will annoy my Leeds mate!

The quality of these kits is absolutely terrible.  Looks like a knock off from a Hong Kong backstreet market.  The embroidered badge/crest is the worst bit, the lettering looks like it was done by somebody who was either drunk, blind or both.  It's going back for a refund.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 08, 2019, 04:56:09 PM
That's a shame. Will be sticking with my Luke shirt. Top notch, shame he isn't doing this year's kits.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 08, 2019, 04:57:09 PM
Post some pics Risso?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villadelph on August 08, 2019, 05:09:25 PM
I gave in and bought the away one to play five aside in, mainly because the Premier League badges will annoy my Leeds mate!

The quality of these kits is absolutely terrible.  Looks like a knock off from a Hong Kong backstreet market.  The embroidered badge/crest is the worst bit, the lettering looks like it was done by somebody who was either drunk, blind or both.  It's going back for a refund.

I do prefer the embroidered badge, shame it isn't up to standard on your shirt.

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 08, 2019, 05:28:12 PM
Looks like a dodgy batch, my picture is in this Twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/Mattg_avfc/status/1159474712596140034
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 08, 2019, 05:35:53 PM
Thatís proper shit. Would you be happy to just exchange it or are there other quality issues with the kit?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 08, 2019, 05:36:52 PM
I've seen a few posting about the wonky lettering in the badge.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 08, 2019, 05:37:05 PM
That's a shame. Will be sticking with my Luke shirt. Top notch, shame he isn't doing this year's kits.
Didnít the Luke kits have a rubber embossed badge rather than embroidered?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 08, 2019, 05:42:58 PM
Thatís proper shit. Would you be happy to just exchange it or are there other quality issues with the kit?

Just an exchange I suppose.  The diagonal white lines on the front look really shit as well, very cheaply printed.  The blue on the front is printed as well, so is a different shade of light blue from the sleeves and the back.  Not a 'fault' as such, but it looks really cheap, as does the stupid way the shoulders have been stitched together.  The sizing is all wrong as well.  I've had an XL for the last few years with no issues at all, and the Luke kit fitted perfectly.  I got an XXL this time, and it's noticably smaller than an XL, so I'd say it's a L by last year's standards.  It makes the Macron kit look like it was put together by Versace.  Absolute garbage, I really do hope it's a one year contract.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on August 08, 2019, 05:45:55 PM
Yep, seen some pics of some awful lettering which looks like it was done after 15 vodkas.

Also the sponsors "W" falling off after one wash. Sounds poor.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 08, 2019, 05:48:50 PM
Disappointing. Havenít seen it in the flesh but both kits look good on tv. Might get one of the training shirts if the quality isnít as bad as the home and away shirts.

As fans/customers, all we can do is ensure any complaints reach the right people if the quality of merchandise is not to standard.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 08, 2019, 06:09:29 PM
That's a shame. Will be sticking with my Luke shirt. Top notch, shame he isn't doing this year's kits.
Didnít the Luke kits have a rubber embossed badge rather than embroidered?

It was embroidered but the lion and the star, and also the AVFC, were rubber. It is really high quality stuff. I wasn't sure about it but it is better than an all embroidered badge imo.

Kind of wish I had got the away shirt. We'll never see them again I fear.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: FatSam on August 08, 2019, 06:10:41 PM
Isn't that just what an embroidered badge looks like? It's never going to be as crisp as a printed badge because it is made up of stitches.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 08, 2019, 06:13:28 PM
Isn't that just what an embroidered badge looks like? It's never going to be as crisp as a printed badge because it is made up of stitches.

Depends how good the stitching is surely? There is a clear difference between authentic and counterfeit yet both can be embroidered.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on August 08, 2019, 06:53:38 PM
Had to re-check the badge on my new home shirt to be sure. The stitching is bang on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on August 08, 2019, 07:45:52 PM
Didnít the Luke kits have a rubber embossed badge rather than embroidered?

The 'posh' version of the new kit also has the rubber badge
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on August 08, 2019, 11:04:27 PM
I would guess that Kappa may not make the badge. Villa may have an established supplier for that as the badge goes on lots of stuff not just the kit and trainingwear.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 08, 2019, 11:05:41 PM
That's a shame. Will be sticking with my Luke shirt. Top notch, shame he isn't doing this year's kits.

Each to their own. I prefer Villa kits.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on August 08, 2019, 11:21:30 PM
Looks like a dodgy batch.

https://twitter.com/Mattg_avfc/status/1159474712596140034
It's a bap FFS!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 09, 2019, 11:16:31 AM
Thatís proper shit. Would you be happy to just exchange it or are there other quality issues with the kit?

Just an exchange I suppose.  The diagonal white lines on the front look really shit as well, very cheaply printed.  The blue on the front is printed as well, so is a different shade of light blue from the sleeves and the back.  Not a 'fault' as such, but it looks really cheap, as does the stupid way the shoulders have been stitched together.  The sizing is all wrong as well.  I've had an XL for the last few years with no issues at all, and the Luke kit fitted perfectly.  I got an XXL this time, and it's noticably smaller than an XL, so I'd say it's a L by last year's standards.  It makes the Macron kit look like it was put together by Versace.  Absolute garbage, I really do hope it's a one year contract.

It's the remaining time on the Fanatics contract. They are making and distributing them again this year but with Kappa logo.

I think there's another year of the deal and then Kappa will make them for the remainder of their deal..
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on August 10, 2019, 03:35:46 AM
https://9printstore.com/product/3d-printed-aston-villa-tu-sneakers-for-men-women/

These are equally as shit as Kappa's kits.

Like Risso pointed out, Kappa make Macron look like Versace. Haha
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on August 10, 2019, 03:36:53 AM
That's a shame. Will be sticking with my Luke shirt. Top notch, shame he isn't doing this year's kits.
Didnít the Luke kits have a rubber embossed badge rather than embroidered?

It was embroidered but the lion and the star, and also the AVFC, were rubber. It is really high quality stuff. I wasn't sure about it but it is better than an all embroidered badge imo.

Kind of wish I had got the away shirt. We'll never see them again I fear.

eBay, mate. Though some of the money the greedy fuckers on there are asking is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 12, 2019, 07:31:18 PM
So, this is from a trusted account on Twitter (who many of you are no doubt following)

'Just spoken to customer services at Kitbag. Kappa have had to initiate a full kit recall on all stock of the away kit. Kitbag issuing full refunds & no need to return faulty kit. Kappa apparently produced the badges, not Fanatics. Kappa have had a mare. @Villa_Trust FYI'
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 12, 2019, 07:40:50 PM
That's a shame. Will be sticking with my Luke shirt. Top notch, shame he isn't doing this year's kits.
Didnít the Luke kits have a rubber embossed badge rather than embroidered?

It was embroidered but the lion and the star, and also the AVFC, were rubber. It is really high quality stuff. I wasn't sure about it but it is better than an all embroidered badge imo.

Kind of wish I had got the away shirt. We'll never see them again I fear.

eBay, mate. Though some of the money the greedy fuckers on there are asking is ridiculous.

Cheers, didn't see this at the time. Yeah I read on here that it was pricey on there. I'm hoping that CFS will make some available for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 12, 2019, 07:42:39 PM
Thanks Drummond.  The Villa shop replied to a tweet of mine on Friday asking me to DM them, but haven't heard back yet.  I wonder if that will apply to orders from the club shop as well?

I put this year's away kit next to last year's Luke kit, and the difference in quality is like night and day.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 12, 2019, 07:55:57 PM
Bring back Luke.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 12, 2019, 08:49:20 PM
I canít fault the kit designs but supply and quality once again appear to be amateurish at best.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on August 12, 2019, 08:58:58 PM
Friend of mine had the new shirt on at the Weekend, absolute poor quality imo for the price of it. Hopefully ditch them off after this season.

Let's get Luke back or Adidas
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 12, 2019, 10:24:35 PM
Friend of mine had the new shirt on at the Weekend, absolute poor quality imo for the price of it. Hopefully ditch them off after this season.

Let's get Luke back or Adidas
or maybe Nike - Their training gear , in particular the purple tops, were great quality
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 12, 2019, 10:38:50 PM
Umbro
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 12, 2019, 10:40:15 PM
Friend of mine had the new shirt on at the Weekend, absolute poor quality imo for the price of it. Hopefully ditch them off after this season.

Let's get Luke back or Adidas
or maybe Nike - Their training gear , in particular the purple tops, were great quality

Of all the Nike ones I had, the best one was the last one we got with the check pattern. The quality was just OK with those. The recent Nike stuff is pretty good. I'm not just talking shit here but the Luke shirt is better quality than most of the shirts I have and I have a lot of them.

I'd probably go for Nike as the next supplier but only because of their training wear. The hoodies and jackets they do are really nice.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on August 12, 2019, 10:44:29 PM
Personally I really like Puma kits, the Man City kits this year are very good and the Dortmund kit is fantastic.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 12, 2019, 10:46:44 PM
Personally I really like Puma kits, the Man City kits this year are very good and the Dortmund kit is fantastic.

Puma would be fine with me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 12, 2019, 10:57:24 PM
Was the decision to change from Luke to Kappa purely a financial one? I was expecting the Luke deal to be at least 2-3 seasons rather than just last season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 13, 2019, 12:24:48 AM
Bring back Luke.

Moore had so much natural talent but was never much into football and the hunger gradually eroded.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 13, 2019, 02:42:08 AM
Pre match training top...
(https://i.ibb.co/HT7vZRW/D-Rer-FBU4-AEut-Oe.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HT7vZRW)
Some of the players were shown wearing this warming up at Spurs during the Purslow interview clips on SSN. Looks really good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 13, 2019, 03:39:25 AM
Looks and feels terrible close up
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Pete3206 on August 13, 2019, 07:19:38 AM
Pre match training top...
(https://i.ibb.co/HT7vZRW/D-Rer-FBU4-AEut-Oe.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HT7vZRW)
Some of the players were shown wearing this warming up at Spurs during the Purslow interview clips on SSN. Looks really good.

Horrific shirt
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on August 13, 2019, 07:27:13 AM
I quite like it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Stu on August 13, 2019, 07:38:49 AM
I think the kits look great, even if I'm a fatty and need x2 XL
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on August 13, 2019, 07:57:46 AM
I haven't bought a home top since the 95/96 season but I've invested in both a pair of away and the training shorts. 

I'm presuming there's been no sizing issues there?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 13, 2019, 08:59:03 AM
Thatís proper shit. Would you be happy to just exchange it or are there other quality issues with the kit?

Just an exchange I suppose.  The diagonal white lines on the front look really shit as well, very cheaply printed.  The blue on the front is printed as well, so is a different shade of light blue from the sleeves and the back.  Not a 'fault' as such, but it looks really cheap, as does the stupid way the shoulders have been stitched together.  The sizing is all wrong as well.  I've had an XL for the last few years with no issues at all, and the Luke kit fitted perfectly.  I got an XXL this time, and it's noticably smaller than an XL, so I'd say it's a L by last year's standards.  It makes the Macron kit look like it was put together by Versace.  Absolute garbage, I really do hope it's a one year contract.

What is it with the shoulders?  It was noticeable from the very first pictures.  If it's a design feature it's a bloody odd one.  It's a shame that when so much is going right at the club Kappa seem to have made such a pigs ear of this.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on August 13, 2019, 09:20:06 AM
I saw a lot of our fans wearing the away and training tops on Saturday they look the business I asked a few about size the one's who like me a bit of a belly said go a size up then you should be Ok.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on August 13, 2019, 10:39:36 AM



anyone seen the claret 'walk out' top to purchase anywhere ?

that's about the only thing i like and it's the only thing i can't find either
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 13, 2019, 11:12:07 AM
Just been on the phone to the club shop, spoke to a really helpful chap.  Anybody affected just has to get in touch and they'll refund in full as is the case if you bought one from Kitbag, and as pointed out earlier in the thread, no need to send the offending article back.

He said that the start of the contract with Kappa has been an absolute disaster, with lots of problems across the range, eg half of the run out training tops arriving without the sponsor on.  The club feel that Kappa have massively underestimated the size of Villa and can't cope with the uptake.  This was the same issue with Luke last year, and why there was a change this year.

Hopefully the club will do them for breach of contract, bin them, and get somebody decent next year.  Worst kits I can remember.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 13, 2019, 11:46:28 AM
Just been on the phone to the club shop, spoke to a really helpful chap.  Anybody affected just has to get in touch and they'll refund in full as is the case if you bought one from Kitbag, and as pointed out earlier in the thread, no need to send the offending article back.

He said that the start of the contract with Kappa has been an absolute disaster, with lots of problems across the range, eg half of the run out training tops arriving without the sponsor on.  The club feel that Kappa have massively underestimated the size of Villa and can't cope with the uptake.  This was the same issue with Luke last year, and why there was a change this year.

Hopefully the club will do them for breach of contract, bin them, and get somebody decent next year.  Worst kits I can remember.

Pleased everyone getting sorted.

I don't think the club can blame Kappa for underestimating  and not producing enough though, surely we had the figures for years about the demand, particularly from last year, and should have made sure they were overseeing the process and supply?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 13, 2019, 11:49:06 AM
No, I don't think the club have done anything wrong, other than choosing Kappa in the first place but that's just personal preference.  They're sorting it out in a hassle free way, with no quibbling or mucking about.  It's just a shame we lost Luke because of not being able to keep up with demand, then appoint a company whose quality control seems to be dismal.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 13, 2019, 11:54:00 AM
No, I don't think the club have done anything wrong, other than choosing Kappa in the first place but that's just personal preference.  They're sorting it out in a hassle free way, with no quibbling or mucking about.  It's just a shame we lost Luke because of not being able to keep up with demand, then appoint a company whose quality control seems to be dismal.
At least they will not get away with "this is normal in this line of business" or what ever excuse they bring seeing that Sawiris owns a big stake in Adidas - (Which I hope will be next season)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 13, 2019, 12:02:01 PM
Just been on the phone to the club shop, spoke to a really helpful chap.  Anybody affected just has to get in touch and they'll refund in full as is the case if you bought one from Kitbag, and as pointed out earlier in the thread, no need to send the offending article back.

He said that the start of the contract with Kappa has been an absolute disaster, with lots of problems across the range, eg half of the run out training tops arriving without the sponsor on.  The club feel that Kappa have massively underestimated the size of Villa and can't cope with the uptake.  This was the same issue with Luke last year, and why there was a change this year.

Hopefully the club will do them for breach of contract, bin them, and get somebody decent next year.  Worst kits I can remember.

Pleased everyone getting sorted.

I don't think the club can blame Kappa for underestimating  and not producing enough though, surely we had the figures for years about the demand, particularly from last year, and should have made sure they were overseeing the process and supply?

Sounds like the partnership of Fanatics and Kappa isn't working very well either.  I could see the intention last year, with Luke being the designer and Fanatics the manufacturer, but this year seems like a bit of a mess.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 13, 2019, 12:02:29 PM
No, I don't think the club have done anything wrong, other than choosing Kappa in the first place but that's just personal preference.  They're sorting it out in a hassle free way, with no quibbling or mucking about.  It's just a shame we lost Luke because of not being able to keep up with demand, then appoint a company whose quality control seems to be dismal.

Quality-wise I'd agree with you, that's not the club's fault. The availability must be though, the club should know the numbers of kits sold, would know that demand would be higher and should have had the numbers to tell Kappa they'd need at least x or y amount of each kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 13, 2019, 12:04:44 PM
It's a real shame if the only reason Luke was dropped was because of the supply issue.  Surely that's teething problems which could easily have been ironed out this year?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 13, 2019, 02:02:13 PM
I imagine Luke was dropped more because of Kappa's £££s. The product was top class.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 13, 2019, 02:43:30 PM
Quality is appalling
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 13, 2019, 05:28:32 PM
I know Luke is a Villa fan and all that but there must be a part of him that is laughing at Kappa.

His stuff for Kidderminster Harriers is pretty good this year, the only thing I don't like is he has copied the back of the shirts from Nike's Vapor template. Puma have done that this season too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 13, 2019, 08:33:24 PM
It's a real shame if the only reason Luke was dropped was because of the supply issue.  Surely that's teething problems which could easily have been ironed out this year?

It was down to money. Purslow wanted 3 times the amount Luke could afford to pay for this season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 13, 2019, 08:35:09 PM
I know Luke is a Villa fan and all that but there must be a part of him that is laughing at Kappa.

His stuff for Kidderminster Harriers is pretty good this year, the only thing I don't like is he has copied the back of the shirts from Nike's Vapor template. Puma have done that this season too.

Heís not laughing heís fuming, especially with Purslow. It was all about money with him. He reckons heís gonna make it his lifeís ambition to get the Villa kit again.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 13, 2019, 08:36:37 PM
"All about money with him". Like every kit deal on the planet, then?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JJ-AV on August 13, 2019, 08:57:16 PM
Would love Luke back, but I guess there's no chance.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 13, 2019, 09:27:39 PM
When the kits were released a few weeks ago I loved the look of the away kit and was thinking of getting one. I saw a few people wearing them on Saturday and as Russo has said, the white stripes on the front look cheap and there is a look of low quality about them.

I think the home kit looked better at Charlton without the sponsor logo too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 13, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
I know Luke is a Villa fan and all that but there must be a part of him that is laughing at Kappa.

His stuff for Kidderminster Harriers is pretty good this year, the only thing I don't like is he has copied the back of the shirts from Nike's Vapor template. Puma have done that this season too.

Heís not laughing heís fuming, especially with Purslow. It was all about money with him. He reckons heís gonna make it his lifeís ambition to get the Villa kit again.

Where'd you hear that mate?

I know it's a way off yet but I was thinking about it and I wanted to post at some point, I've remembered so I may as well do it now. In five years its our 150th year, I think it would be superb if we could have a special, retro style kit based on one of our very early ones for this. Waive sponsorship for that kit, be it for one game or the whole season.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html

Maybe Luke could do that, as he has earned his opportunity imo.


Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: tomd2103 on August 13, 2019, 11:01:05 PM
What is going on at the club shop?  Went a couple of weeks ago with my nephews to get them a kit only for there to be no kids home shorts in stock at all.  Thought I'd leave it a couple of weeks and thought I would look at getting them an away kit each as well.  Got the home shorts in one of their sizes this time and got the away shirts, but no away shorts or socks.  Went to get "Grealish 10" and "McGinn 7" in their shirts, only to be told they had run out of the letter 'G' and the number 7.  To top it all off the staff just seemed a bit unhelpful and couldn't give any answers to when things might be back in stock.



Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 13, 2019, 11:06:42 PM
I know Luke is a Villa fan and all that but there must be a part of him that is laughing at Kappa.

His stuff for Kidderminster Harriers is pretty good this year, the only thing I don't like is he has copied the back of the shirts from Nike's Vapor template. Puma have done that this season too.

Heís not laughing heís fuming, especially with Purslow. It was all about money with him. He reckons heís gonna make it his lifeís ambition to get the Villa kit again.

Where'd you hear that mate?

I know it's a way off yet but I was thinking about it and I wanted to post at some point, I've remembered so I may as well do it now. In five years its our 150th year, I think it would be superb if we could have a special, retro style kit based on one of our very early ones for this. Waive sponsorship for that kit, be it for one game or the whole season.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html

Maybe Luke could do that, as he has earned his opportunity imo.




I hated the 2000 thick stripes, but I could live with those thin hoops on the first ever kit shown on the link to commemorate the 150th year.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 13, 2019, 11:09:01 PM
Those pics of the badge on the away shirt are absolutely fucking shocking.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 14, 2019, 12:14:11 AM
What is going on at the club shop?  Went a couple of weeks ago with my nephews to get them a kit only for there to be no kids home shorts in stock at all.  Thought I'd leave it a couple of weeks and thought I would look at getting them an away kit each as well.  Got the home shorts in one of their sizes this time and got the away shirts, but no away shorts or socks.  Went to get "Grealish 10" and "McGinn 7" in their shirts, only to be told they had run out of the letter 'G' and the number 7.  To top it all off the staff just seemed a bit unhelpful and couldn't give any answers to when things might be back in stock.

Makes me sad to read stuff like this and it seems to be a constant problem.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 14, 2019, 12:18:48 AM
Played 5 aside in my new [now free] away shirt tonight.  Mate of mine asked if I bought it from a Turkish market.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on August 14, 2019, 08:35:55 AM
What is going on at the club shop?  Went a couple of weeks ago with my nephews to get them a kit only for there to be no kids home shorts in stock at all.  Thought I'd leave it a couple of weeks and thought I would look at getting them an away kit each as well.  Got the home shorts in one of their sizes this time and got the away shirts, but no away shorts or socks.  Went to get "Grealish 10" and "McGinn 7" in their shirts, only to be told they had run out of the letter 'G' and the number 7.  To top it all off the staff just seemed a bit unhelpful and couldn't give any answers to when things might be back in stock.




For all the brilliant things happening at our great club, youíd think from a retail point of view theyíd be expecting the shop to be rammed full of all products for the first home game when they have the biggest sales opportunity.
Iím not sure how much input/clout the kitbag/fanatics /kappa have in the shop running, but it does seem to have gone down in operational standards the last few years.
With all the new signage, I wonder if theyíve had second thoughts about knocking down yet seeing the matches sell out and maybe start construction/demolition with north stand and everything behind it at end of season.
How theyíd cope with ticket demand / prices until finished I donít really know but next season could start with a brand new sponsored ADIDAS swanky shop !?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on August 14, 2019, 09:43:29 AM
Echoing some of the previous comments, I also visited the club shop a couple of weeks ago to get new shirts for the kids only to find very limited choice of available sizes, no away kits whatsoever and theyíd ran out of the letter G for the name printing (which meant that it wasnít possible to get the name of any of our 3 most popular players).

Really amateurish and very frustrating. God knows how much revenue the club is missing out on by being unable to service customers who are trying to give them their money.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on August 14, 2019, 09:55:03 AM
Imagine how many kids, when buying a new shirt are then disappointed to be told that due to the fact that the shop keeps running out of the letter G, they canít have any of the following names on their shirt;

Grealish
McGinn
Mings
El Ghazi
Engels
Guilbert
Targett
Douglas Luiz

I bet ĎTaylorí has never been so popular!

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dogtanian on August 14, 2019, 09:55:56 AM
Think I may leave getting a shirt this season looking at all this.  It's a shame as I was looking forward to the away shirt and would have pre-ordered it had it not been for the fact I couldn't wear it to Spurs as was in a box and can't wear it to Bournemouth as going out straight from the match.

Lucky escape!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dogtanian on August 14, 2019, 09:56:31 AM
Imagine how many kids, when buying a new shirt are then disappointed to be told that due to the fact that the shop keeps running out of the letter G, they canít have any of the following names on their shirt;

Grealish
McGinn
Mings
El Ghazi
Engels
Guilbert
Targett
Douglas Luiz

I bet ĎTaylorí has never been so popular!

Forget the kids, imagine my disappointment I can't even get Dogtanian!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 14, 2019, 09:59:45 AM
Think I may leave getting a shirt this season looking at all this.  It's a shame as I was looking forward to the away shirt and would have pre-ordered it had it not been for the fact I couldn't wear it to Spurs as was in a box and can't wear it to Bournemouth as going out straight from the match.

Lucky escape!

Me too although I don't think I've ever bought one full price. I wait until they've been reduced but even so I won't be getting one of these Kappa ones. A real shame and our fans deserve better.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dogtanian on August 14, 2019, 10:03:51 AM
Think I may leave getting a shirt this season looking at all this.  It's a shame as I was looking forward to the away shirt and would have pre-ordered it had it not been for the fact I couldn't wear it to Spurs as was in a box and can't wear it to Bournemouth as going out straight from the match.

Lucky escape!

Me too although I don't think I've ever bought one full price. I wait until they've been reduced but even so I won't be getting one of these Kappa ones. A real shame and our fans deserve better.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with my pie-eating physique!   8)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on August 14, 2019, 10:04:17 AM
I can't even get Bad English.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Towser on August 14, 2019, 10:09:56 AM
Imagine how many kids, when buying a new shirt are then disappointed to be told that due to the fact that the shop keeps running out of the letter G, they canít have any of the following names on their shirt;

Grealish
McGinn
Mings
El Ghazi
Engels
Guilbert
Targett
Douglas Luiz

I bet ĎTaylorí has never been so popular!


, Are they upper case or lower case g's though? Makes a big difference (smiley winky thing)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dogtanian on August 14, 2019, 10:23:31 AM
I can't even get Bad English.

In fairness though, Bad Enlish would go with the theme...  ;D
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 14, 2019, 10:36:59 AM
I can't even get Bad English.

Bad Enjlish would still get the point over.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 14, 2019, 05:00:23 PM
Finally got the second shirt I ordered - a claret training t-shirt (the one the players wore at the beginning before kit released) - and I ordered an XL - and it is slim-fit, with it not specified anywhere - and zero elasticity

Fuming! - and it has been removed from the web shop, so guess it was just a temporary players shirt.

My son has now two new shirts to use.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: tomd2103 on August 14, 2019, 06:31:50 PM
Echoing some of the previous comments, I also visited the club shop a couple of weeks ago to get new shirts for the kids only to find very limited choice of available sizes, no away kits whatsoever and theyíd ran out of the letter G for the name printing (which meant that it wasnít possible to get the name of any of our 3 most popular players).

Really amateurish and very frustrating. God knows how much revenue the club is missing out on by being unable to service customers who are trying to give them their money.

Agree Marlon.  The visit to the club shop is probably a highlight for most young football fans, but it has been a very underwhelming experience on both occasions.  A lot of items out of stock and a general shrug of the shoulders "oh well" type of attitude from the staff. 

If the club has got genuine designs on pushing on, then getting stuff like this right should surely be bread and butter.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Si on August 14, 2019, 07:47:24 PM
Took my daughter up to the shop last week. She tried on the home and away. Size small men's. She is 11 years old. My luke polo shirt is a large so tried an xl polo shirt. Couldn't even get it over my chest it was that tight. The sizing is ridiculous. The quality really is similar to knock off Barcelona shirts you'd find in Salou.Walked out without buying anything.  Popped into Bull ring. Saw the Arsenal shirt in the doorway of sports direct. Hate to admit it, but it really is a beautiful, quality football shirt. Kappa should be ashamed to have their name on such inferior quality clothing. Don't get me started on those sleeves, they looked so wrong on my daughter. Just resembled off cuts of material picked up off the floor and sewn together.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on August 14, 2019, 09:53:00 PM
Two observations... bears shit in the woods, Kappa have always been shite, the only surprise is it's a good template. Second, if you need an XXXXL, you may not actually look that good in a football shirt. A bit like 90 year old royals don't really suit military uniforms. There are other ways to wear the colours on match day.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dogtanian on August 15, 2019, 08:07:13 AM
Woah... nothing wrong with big lads wearing footie tops.

If you don't personally think that's a good look, no problem, you're only going to cheer on the Villa with um, you don't have to shag them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: leylandalbion on August 16, 2019, 03:58:29 PM
Agree quality is shite, on my lads 'snagged' 1st day of wearing.  Credit to shop though, after phoning up they will replace foc and we get to keep snagged one
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on August 16, 2019, 08:19:12 PM
Has the shop been brought back under the management of the club yet?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mshurst on August 17, 2019, 07:17:21 PM
A chap on Reddit has managed to source pictures of our third kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/LzZsECy_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

(https://i.imgur.com/CAnGxbS_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 17, 2019, 07:20:24 PM
Hopefully we wonít ever have to wear it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 17, 2019, 09:23:16 PM
That is shite.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 17, 2019, 09:32:51 PM
I prefer the 93/94 Muller version. Is this something sick-fuck 25 year anniversary homage?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Si on August 18, 2019, 06:19:28 AM
That green shirt sums up kappa...hideous. Seeing all the random villa home shirts yesterday. The variation in colour is unbelievable. Is it really so hard to say use the 1980 shirt and stick to those colours. I thought the kappa shirt  looked as though it's been in the wash too many times, my mate summed it up....it just looks dull.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on August 18, 2019, 07:36:24 AM
Im sure the kids will love it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on August 18, 2019, 08:22:02 AM
That green shirt sums up kappa...hideous. Seeing all the random villa home shirts yesterday. The variation in colour is unbelievable. Is it really so hard to say use the 1980 shirt and stick to those colours. I thought the kappa shirt  looked as though it's been in the wash too many times, my mate summed it up....it just looks dull.

Agreed. Last season's Luke kit was way better.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on August 18, 2019, 09:52:04 AM
A chap on Reddit has managed to source pictures of our third kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/LzZsECy_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

(https://i.imgur.com/CAnGxbS_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

If thatís true then it looks like a Charles Rennie Mackintosh design.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 18, 2019, 07:28:17 PM
Looks brilliant.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on August 18, 2019, 07:30:05 PM


If real, easily the worst kit we've ever had. Absolutely awful in every possible way
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 18, 2019, 07:39:34 PM
You have terrible taste. It's great.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on August 18, 2019, 07:52:27 PM
My full, descriptive and decisive review of Kappa this season:

All three shirts both in design and quality, are shite.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 18, 2019, 07:56:52 PM
I haven't seen them up close so can't really question the quality. But you think the design of claret shirts, blue sleeves is shite? That's what we play in!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 18, 2019, 07:57:14 PM
It's not going to bring people together. It's meant to be very different and it is with an obvious nod to that stripey kit we had a number of years ago. I'll judge when it is worn in a game which I imagine won't happen that often. Maybe we will see it at Palace away.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 18, 2019, 07:57:43 PM
If a big name like Nike or Adidas had released our kits everyone on here would be saying how great they were.

Emperor's Designer Clothes.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 18, 2019, 07:59:56 PM
I don't mind that at all. It's a third/change kit ffs, if it's not your style it's not the end of the world!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 18, 2019, 08:39:56 PM
If it was plain it would be alright as a 3rd kit, that weird pattern makes it look crap imo. May look better in person though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 18, 2019, 08:43:24 PM
Yeah, you won't notice the pattern unless you are up close. I don't reckon the pattern is bad anyway.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on August 18, 2019, 09:08:42 PM
I think it's fine, a 3rd kit that's plain is, in my opinion, pretty shit. It'll get worn once or twice at most so might as well make it something completely different, if for no other reason because it means your home and 2nd kits can stay fairly traditional without it becoming boring, anyone who wants something new gets it from the 3rd strip.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 18, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
If a big name like Nike or Adidas had released our kits everyone on here would be saying how great they were.

Emperor's Designer Clothes.

I donít think they would. The kits are dreadful. Piss poor designs and really badly made.  I donít think Adidas would make anything that shite though. Kappa are a crap brand and theyíve made crap kits.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on August 18, 2019, 11:34:11 PM
Looks brilliant.

Yep I like it too. Some will, some wonít.
Iíll have to see how the home shirt lasts, but I too think thereís an over reaction.
I also like the warm up stripey shirt, was quite close to getting that over the home.
I dislike sponsors vehemently, betting companies especially, but am glad at least logos colour coordinate.

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 19, 2019, 12:21:44 AM
If a big name like Nike or Adidas had released our kits everyone on here would be saying how great they were.

Emperor's Designer Clothes.

I donít think they would. The kits are dreadful. Piss poor designs and really badly made.  I donít think Adidas would make anything that shite though. Kappa are a crap brand and theyíve made crap kits.

In terms of design, they are a bit shit, although the away one much less so than home.

At the match yesterday, seeing people wearing them, i noticed how shittily made they seem to be - the shoulder seam looked fucked on most of the ones I saw,.

Oh, and the, err, tighter-than-usual fit resulted in a few people wearing them who really shouldn't have been (and i say that as a podgy bastard myself).

I am never going to get overly vexed by shirt designs, but for the price they charge, you would at least expect some degree of quality control. Those photos posted on here showing the badge stitching were absolutely shockingly poor.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 19, 2019, 12:47:37 AM
I was actually surprised at how good the Kappa replica and training kits looked at the game given how much criticism theyíve received on here. A friend was wearing the elite without the sponsor logo...it looked good with no manufacturing defects. May be some of the batches have inconsistencies, and thereís nothing you can do about ppl buying and keeping a wrong size shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on August 19, 2019, 08:38:18 AM
I imagine Luke was dropped more because of Kappa's £££s. The product was top class.

I was told by someone who is fairly well connected that the profits from the Luke gear was split between the club and Luke, rather than Luke paying up front to manufacture our kits. This was not conducive with us complying with FFP hence why we needed a kit deal that raised some significant cash (similar to selling the ground). I was also told that originally Luke had a 2 year deal, so maybe heíll be back in the near future.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on August 19, 2019, 09:12:27 AM
Agree quality is shite, on my lads 'snagged' 1st day of wearing.  Credit to shop though, after phoning up they will replace foc and we get to keep snagged one
just shows what a fkn rip-off they are in the first place if they can afford to replace dodgy quality / sized ones foc and probably still make a decent profit. Kappa gear is shit. Saw both the arsenal and Liverpool tops in the flesh today and quality of both, look very good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on August 19, 2019, 09:19:45 AM
A chap on Reddit has managed to source pictures of our third kit.
*Snip*
If thatís true then it looks like a Charles Rennie Mackintosh design.
There is a big wine producer called Lafage down our end. They do a 'Cuvťe Charles Rennie Mackintosh' wine. I swear that they have copied the label after drinking six bottles of the stuff.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 19, 2019, 10:29:41 AM
and thereís nothing you can do about ppl buying and keeping a wrong size shirt.

How about making the shirts the right size in the first place?  Every single manufacturer in the last 20 years has managed it, even shite like Macron.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 19, 2019, 10:30:55 AM
and thereís nothing you can do about ppl buying and keeping a wrong size shirt.

How about making the shirts the right size in the first place?  Every single manufacturer in the last 20 years has managed it, even shite like Macron.

They are the right size, it's the fans who aren't ;-)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on August 19, 2019, 12:47:01 PM
When I went in the club shop on Saturday they didn't have anything bigger than XL in stock not good and this was about 11:00 o clock in the morning you would have thought they would get this sorted out in the club shop regarding having stock on site we had the same thing last season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on August 19, 2019, 12:48:21 PM
I do like the third kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villa75 on August 19, 2019, 12:50:01 PM
I was actually surprised at how good the Kappa replica and training kits looked at the game given how much criticism theyíve received on here. A friend was wearing the elite without the sponsor logo...it looked good with no manufacturing defects. May be some of the batches have inconsistencies, and thereís nothing you can do about ppl buying and keeping a wrong size shirt.

How can I get one of these "without the sponsor logo", please?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 19, 2019, 01:19:08 PM
I was actually surprised at how good the Kappa replica and training kits looked at the game given how much criticism theyíve received on here. A friend was wearing the elite without the sponsor logo...it looked good with no manufacturing defects. May be some of the batches have inconsistencies, and thereís nothing you can do about ppl buying and keeping a wrong size shirt.

How can I get one of these "without the sponsor logo", please?

The pro kits were/are available on the Kappa site.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villa75 on August 19, 2019, 02:29:51 PM
I was actually surprised at how good the Kappa replica and training kits looked at the game given how much criticism theyíve received on here. A friend was wearing the elite without the sponsor logo...it looked good with no manufacturing defects. May be some of the batches have inconsistencies, and thereís nothing you can do about ppl buying and keeping a wrong size shirt.

How can I get one of these "without the sponsor logo", please?

The pro kits were/are available on the Kappa site.

Nice one. Thanks.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on August 19, 2019, 02:35:19 PM
If a big name like Nike or Adidas had released our kits everyone on here would be saying how great they were.

How on earth would that've made any difference to the shit designs?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 19, 2019, 02:39:01 PM
They aren't shit, and people wouldn't have been saying they were if a bigger name (or a so-called "Villa fan" who doesn't like Villa home colours) had designed them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 19, 2019, 03:07:21 PM
I can't speak for anybody else, but yes I would.  The shirts are horrible, and so badly made it untrue.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2019, 03:13:46 PM
They aren't shit, and people wouldn't have been saying they were if a bigger name (or a so-called "Villa fan" who doesn't like Villa home colours) had designed them.

Surely by that logic the only reason you didn't like last season's is because it wasn't make by Nike or Adidas? Or would you not have liked it regardless of who made it, same as some people don't like this season's regardless of who made it?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 19, 2019, 03:50:29 PM
They aren't shit, and people wouldn't have been saying they were if a bigger name (or a so-called "Villa fan" who doesn't like Villa home colours) had designed them.
It is plain for anyone to see that the fit and quality of this years shirts is awful.  By fit I don't just mean sizing, I mean the whole fit including the daft crumpled shoulders.  The colours and designs are fine in my view, but the actual shirts are absolutely shoddy and the fact they are having to replace so many is a clear sign of that.  The difference in quality from last year is ridiculous.

The sizing fiasco is crazy and could have been easily avoided.  Yes they are an Italian brand and Italian sizes tend to come up smaller, but they are supplying a UK market.  Labelling shirts 1-2 sizes smaller than what the customer is used to was bound to end up in tears, particulaly when so much of the market is on-line.  Couldn't anyone forsee this?

Add to that that yet again a supplier hasn't managed to keep up with demand then in my view the whole shirt release has been a bit of a disaster.  I'm not sure why we seem to find it so hard to get this right.  Hopefully next year we'll be back to a decent supplier who can provide a quality product and who will be fully briefed on likely demand.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 19, 2019, 03:57:53 PM
What's the crumpled shit shoulder thing? I must have missed it...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on August 19, 2019, 04:01:01 PM
One day, we'll have a classic Villa kit available for sale in June, and still available in the shops (not just Villa Park, ones where you can actually try on so you know it fits) by Christmas.  Then  we'll know we've made it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 19, 2019, 04:08:48 PM
I couldnt even get in the shop Saturday as the queue was that long. I assume the shirts must be selling well then if they are available.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 19, 2019, 04:17:32 PM
What's the crumpled shit shoulder thing? I must have missed it...

It's the way the seam sticks up above the shoulders.  It's pretty obvious on most photos of the shirt and it has been mentioned several times in this thread, including a post by Risso which you responded to

Thatís proper shit. Would you be happy to just exchange it or are there other quality issues with the kit?

Just an exchange I suppose.  The diagonal white lines on the front look really shit as well, very cheaply printed.  The blue on the front is printed as well, so is a different shade of light blue from the sleeves and the back.  Not a 'fault' as such, but it looks really cheap, as does the stupid way the shoulders have been stitched together.  The sizing is all wrong as well.  I've had an XL for the last few years with no issues at all, and the Luke kit fitted perfectly.  I got an XXL this time, and it's noticably smaller than an XL, so I'd say it's a L by last year's standards.  It makes the Macron kit look like it was put together by Versace.  Absolute garbage, I really do hope it's a one year contract.

It's the remaining time on the Fanatics contract. They are making and distributing them again this year but with Kappa logo.

I think there's another year of the deal and then Kappa will make them for the remainder of their deal..
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 19, 2019, 06:07:01 PM
They aren't shit, and people wouldn't have been saying they were if a bigger name (or a so-called "Villa fan" who doesn't like Villa home colours) had designed them.
It is plain for anyone to see that the fit and quality of this years shirts is awful.  By fit I don't just mean sizing, I mean the whole fit including the daft crumpled shoulders.  The colours and designs are fine in my view, but the actual shirts are absolutely shoddy and the fact they are having to replace so many is a clear sign of that.  The difference in quality from last year is ridiculous.

The sizing fiasco is crazy and could have been easily avoided.  Yes they are an Italian brand and Italian sizes tend to come up smaller, but they are supplying a UK market.  Labelling shirts 1-2 sizes smaller than what the customer is used to was bound to end up in tears, particulaly when so much of the market is on-line.  Couldn't anyone forsee this?

Add to that that yet again a supplier hasn't managed to keep up with demand then in my view the whole shirt release has been a bit of a disaster.  I'm not sure why we seem to find it so hard to get this right.  Hopefully next year we'll be back to a decent supplier who can provide a quality product and who will be fully briefed on likely demand.

Macron are Italian as well aren't they?  I didn't like their kits much, but at least they were the right size.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 19, 2019, 07:19:08 PM
They aren't shit, and people wouldn't have been saying they were if a bigger name (or a so-called "Villa fan" who doesn't like Villa home colours) had designed them.

Surely by that logic the only reason you didn't like last season's is because it wasn't make by Nike or Adidas? Or would you not have liked it regardless of who made it, same as some people don't like this season's regardless of who made it?

I moaned that it wasn't a Villa shirt. Because it wasn't. The only time I have cared who the manufacturer was was when it was those pro-hunting twats Under Armour.

Loads of people on here were moaning before the kit was released that we should have Nike or Umbro, or stuck with "Villa fan" Luke. It seems entirely like they made up their mind before seeing it.

Even fans criticising the design of the home shirt. That's what Villa shirts look like ffs!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on August 19, 2019, 07:58:53 PM
They aren't shit, and people wouldn't have been saying they were if a bigger name (or a so-called "Villa fan" who doesn't like Villa home colours) had designed them.

What a nonsense  :o
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on August 19, 2019, 08:02:28 PM


You don't seem able to differentiate with it being 'the right' colours with people not liking the design.

Just having a claret and blue home shirt isn't enough. If it was they wouldn't pay designers to come up with designs clearly.


We've had loads of 'right colours' home shirts that've been shit. And we've had ones that dared to not have blue sleeves which have been great.

It's crap. But not as crap as the away and third kit.

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2019, 08:23:57 PM

I moaned that it wasn't a Villa shirt. Because it wasn't. The only time I have cared who the manufacturer was was when it was those pro-hunting twats Under Armour.

Loads of people on here were moaning before the kit was released that we should have Nike or Umbro, or stuck with "Villa fan" Luke. It seems entirely like they made up their mind before seeing it.

Even fans criticising the design of the home shirt. That's what Villa shirts look like ffs!

So you can have a reason to dislike a certain home shirt for your own reasons but no one else can dislike a different home shirt for theirs?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 19, 2019, 08:32:29 PM
I believe that's the crux of his argument, yes.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 19, 2019, 08:35:03 PM
Dislike it all you like. But disliking the design when its the same basic design we've had for most of our history is just odd, IMO. I understand Blose and Albion fans claiming not to like our shirts, but they're just wrong, quite obviously.

I can understand people disliking the away or third kit, even though I like them myself. Struggling to see how any Villa fan dislikes the home design.

Again, talking purely about the design, not necessarily the quality of the material as I haven't purchased it so I don't know.

I still believe that if Nike had produced exactly the same kit the majority of the fans moaning about it would be singing its praises.

Just like people would drink Coca Cola and slag off supermarket Cola even though they taste basically the same (ie shit).

Millions of dollars of advertising every year clearly works.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2019, 08:42:26 PM
The vast majority of the complaints i've seen about the home shirt have nothing to do with the basic design, either on here or social media.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2019, 08:43:06 PM
Well apart from the weird looking shoulder bits.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 19, 2019, 08:43:18 PM
Well that's fine. I'm only taking issue with posters who have criticised the design of the home shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 19, 2019, 09:03:00 PM
and thereís nothing you can do about ppl buying and keeping a wrong size shirt.

How about making the shirts the right size in the first place?  Every single manufacturer in the last 20 years has managed it, even shite like Macron.
Just to give that a bit of context, I was replying to Paulie talking about fat blokes wearing tight shirts rather than referring to the known size issues in manufacturing...
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Oh, and the, err, tighter-than-usual fit resulted in a few people wearing them who really shouldn't have been (and i say that as a podgy bastard myself).
As an example of that, I bought a fair few slim fit shirts but havenít been able to wear them for the last year or so having piled on a few pounds...Iím back down the gym now so hopefully I wonít have to buy a new wardrobe before I go on holiday! 😂
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on August 19, 2019, 09:33:46 PM
If a big name like Nike or Adidas had released our kits everyone on here would be saying how great they were.

Emperor's Designer Clothes.

Agree, mate
Asked a couple of guys on Saturday what they thought of the new tops. Both said they thought they were fine, no problems. I mentioned the sizing, the one guy said he had to go up a size, but, that's not really a problem.
I happen to agree with him. If it's too small, buy a bigger one. Or are people to vain to wear the next size up?  ;D
I'm beginning to feel that it seems to be a case of moaning for moanings sake
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 19, 2019, 10:01:40 PM
As a lot of people order on line or pull the shirt off the rack with their size, I think getting the sizing right is fundamental.
The shirt looks ok, itís a Villa shirt and the colours are close.
Hate the big W though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 19, 2019, 10:14:37 PM
You get sizing differences between a lot of designer brands...as an example, Diesel, Boss and Hilfiger all come up short compared to Fred Perry, Lacoste and Ralph Lauren...sometimes even sizes of the same brand donít even match. The same applies to sportswear brands, so the simple rule of thumb for any clothing is buy and wear the size that actually fits. Purchasing clothes really is a basic skill.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 19, 2019, 10:57:07 PM
You get sizing differences between a lot of designer brands...as an example, Diesel, Boss and Hilfiger all come up short compared to Fred Perry, Lacoste and Ralph Lauren...sometimes even sizes of the same brand donít even match. The same applies to sportswear brands, so the simple rule of thumb for any clothing is buy and wear the size that actually fits. Purchasing clothes really is a basic skill.

Every other manufacturer we've had for the last 20 years has managed to make shirts of roughly the same size, not two sizes out like Kappa.  And it's not really fair to compare them to every day shirts, which can be found in a variety of shops in most town centres.  If you want a Villa shirt, you've pretty much got to buy them online or at the club shop, and even that latter option is more miss than hit these days.  I'd say making a kit that's the size it purports to be is a fairly basic requirement, but I'm not surprised for one minute that a company turning out the chav shite that Kappa do, can't manage it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 19, 2019, 11:14:27 PM
Iíve never been a fan of Kappa either so Iím not going to defend any of the issues that we have seen repeatedly complained about regarding the kits. All I know is that I always try something on before buying in a shop, and if I order something online that doesnít fit then I send it back for refund or exchange.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 19, 2019, 11:37:15 PM
I popped in the shop on Sunday to look at the shirts.

It seemed to me that the home shirts are better made than the away - slightly thicker material. I agree with the comments re sizes as I am a medium in everything and needed a large. I reckon anybody ordering online will come a cropper.

The home shirt seemed fine, and the colours are decent, whereas I really like the away shirt from a distance but not the white diagonal stripes close up. From the stands  I really like this shirt with claret shorts though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on August 19, 2019, 11:37:17 PM
I like it when T-shirt vendors put a photo or a table with the width and length of the garment in cm along with the size (in bold in case Mr Kappa or the YTS lad at the Villa online shop is reading). It is the best way of knowing if the item has a circumference which is sufficient to cover my impressive gut and ample bits of overhanging love handle action.

I bet an XXXL from Kappa would be tight on me and send me into a deep depressive state.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 20, 2019, 08:58:45 AM
Iíve never been a fan of Kappa either so Iím not going to defend any of the issues that we have seen repeatedly complained about regarding the kits. All I know is that I always try something on before buying in a shop, and if I order something online that doesnít fit then I send it back for refund or exchange.
So what sensible business produces a product where the sizing is so far out from a typical UK standard that the vast majority will need to be returned - inconveniencing both the consumer and vendor?  Add into the mix that a good proportion of shirts will have been personalised, it's just terrible business.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on August 20, 2019, 11:11:21 AM
Don't worry! Next year will be post-Brexit and the kits will probably be made by John Justin.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villa75 on August 20, 2019, 11:26:40 AM
Iíve never been a fan of Kappa either so Iím not going to defend any of the issues that we have seen repeatedly complained about regarding the kits. All I know is that I always try something on before buying in a shop, and if I order something online that doesnít fit then I send it back for refund or exchange.
So what sensible business produces a product where the sizing is so far out from a typical UK standard that the vast majority will need to be returned - inconveniencing both the consumer and vendor?  Add into the mix that a good proportion of shirts will have been personalised, it's just terrible business.


Yep. Can't see many copying it as a business model.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 20, 2019, 11:42:20 AM
Iíve never been a fan of Kappa either so Iím not going to defend any of the issues that we have seen repeatedly complained about regarding the kits. All I know is that I always try something on before buying in a shop, and if I order something online that doesnít fit then I send it back for refund or exchange.
So what sensible business produces a product where the sizing is so far out from a typical UK standard that the vast majority will need to be returned - inconveniencing both the consumer and vendor?  Add into the mix that a good proportion of shirts will have been personalised, it's just terrible business.

Yep.  Obviously one of the advantages of shopping on line is that you'd don't have to waste half your day driving into town, finding somewhere to park and then traipsing round.  I simply buy everything online, and have never had anything that's an XL or equivalent from any brand that doesn't fit.  As you say, if you've had a Villa shirt personalised you can't take it back anyway, and even if you haven't, you've then got the hassle of packaging it back up, and going to the post office and sending it back.  Bollocks to that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 20, 2019, 12:26:26 PM
Don't worry! Next year will be post-Brexit and the kits will probably be made by John Justin.
Is he related to Justin Time
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 20, 2019, 01:04:33 PM
Apologies for quoting myself but...
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Iíve never been a fan of Kappa either so Iím not going to defend any of the issues that we have seen repeatedly complained about regarding the kits.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on August 20, 2019, 01:11:02 PM
What is so wrong with setting up a distribution system so that fans can go and try/buy in a store other than VP? Surely whatever additional income from being the sole outlet are impacted by the costs incurred with all the returns/refunds/time and other such aggro?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 20, 2019, 05:07:01 PM
Does anyone have a link to the page on the Kappa site where our shirts sans sponsor are available? Can only see Betis.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on August 20, 2019, 05:13:12 PM
Does anyone have a link to the page on the Kappa site where our shirts sans sponsor are available? Can only see Betis.

https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html (https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html)

You can get ours directly from Kappa without the sponsor, but it'll set you back about £100.


Sounds reasonable. 🤔


Last night it was available on www.kappastore.co.uk

£80, free delivery over £70, 10% off first order so the expensive version without sponsor £72 delivered.

I was going to call kitbag today to ask to cancel my regular shirt, thought worth the extra for no sponsor, but theyíve been frustratingly efficient and despatched.

Now itís been taken off the  UK site, so on
https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-home-19-20-113089.html
 itís Ä110 -10% (code KAPPA4YOU) & free DHL= Ä99 =£89

Small print does say something about duty charges being recipientís responsibility, Iím not clear where this would be dispatched from, but could be 20% plus admin fee if got hit for that I guess. Has anybody ordered?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 20, 2019, 05:57:53 PM
Ta, just shows the home one though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on August 20, 2019, 07:31:33 PM
Ta, just shows the home one though.

no idea if this works, but https://www.kappastore.eu/sports/clubs-football/aston-villa-fc.html
gives you
 https://www.kappastore.eu/camiseta-de-juego-kombat-pro-aston-villa-fc-away-19-20-113096.html
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on August 20, 2019, 07:34:58 PM
These are the expensive athlete versions that presumably you'd need to check fit at stadium store; I checked the discount above still works. I'm not sure if we know anyone that  has ordered from here and got them without ad, but if I'd presume you get what's in the image.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 20, 2019, 08:35:30 PM
A friend of mine was wearing the home elite bought from Kappa without the logo. He was very happy with it, and it looked bang on the money to me with none of the issues described in this thread.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on August 20, 2019, 09:50:11 PM
These are the expensive athlete versions that presumably you'd need to check fit at stadium store; I checked the discount above still works. I'm not sure if we know anyone that  has ordered from here and got them without ad, but if I'd presume you get what's in the image.

I ordered these for my brother and nephew. The quality is excellent, and they look loads better minus the sponsor too. Interestingly they also arrived from France within three days, even using their economy delivery...my mate waited two weeks for his from the Villa online store!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 20, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
I like it when T-shirt vendors put a photo or a table with the width and length of the garment in cm along with the size (in bold in case Mr Kappa or the YTS lad at the Villa online shop is reading).

Agree 100% e.g. Paul Smith does this now and I know whether to order XL or XXL depending on whether it's a regular or slim fit. Never had an issue when ordering online. Wouldn't take much effort for Villa's kit as it's only one shirt in 7 or 8 sizes.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 20, 2019, 11:13:16 PM
Thanks purpletrousers, just need to stop eating biscuits and chocolate every evening after dinner and I might squeeze into one of those. They do look nice.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 20, 2019, 11:14:38 PM
I like it when T-shirt vendors put a photo or a table with the width and length of the garment in cm along with the size (in bold in case Mr Kappa or the YTS lad at the Villa online shop is reading).

Agree 100% e.g. Paul Smith does this now and I know whether to order XL or XXL depending on whether it's a regular or slim fit. Never had an issue when ordering online. Wouldn't take much effort for Villa's kit as it's only one shirt in 7 or 8 sizes.

I can't believe there are still online clothes retailers who don't do that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on August 22, 2019, 02:23:59 PM

Finally something decent from Kappa

(https://kbis-cdn.fanobject.com/avfc/267158/img/avfc-267158/zoom/TileGroup0/1-1-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 22, 2019, 02:29:01 PM
Apparently itís a home cotton polo but one of those new ones without the collar:

https://m.shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/mobile/en/product/aston-villa-home-cotton-polo---claret/267158?categories=training
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Yeltzer on August 22, 2019, 05:47:30 PM
Apparently itís a home cotton polo but one of those new ones without the collar

otherwise known as a T Shirt
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on August 22, 2019, 08:32:42 PM
That in an actual polo shirt would be very nice.

I was thinking of shirts today imagine the sales on a Adidas shirt, claret, 3 blue stripes on sleeve with the old 80s crest and purity as sponsor.

Best selling shirt, ever
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 22, 2019, 08:37:07 PM
That in an actual polo shirt would be very nice.

I was thinking of shirts today imagine the sales on a Adidas shirt, claret, 3 blue stripes on sleeve with the old 80s crest and purity as sponsor.

Best selling shirt, ever

The crest needs to be changed. I won't buy anything from the club until it is. Last season's shirt was a one off because I could see it being in demand after and it was very nice but the Lerner crest can fuck off. Last season's would have been even better with the 80s crest. Every half decent shirt we have that has that Lerner one is a ruined shirt.

It's ridiculous it still hasn't been changed.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on August 22, 2019, 08:52:57 PM

With due respect, nobody under the age of about 35 gives two shits about the round badge.

I miss it, but i'm an old fart that has some attachment to it.

That new 'polo' shirt has been ordered. All the better for not having a collar
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 22, 2019, 09:02:38 PM
I'm under the age of 35 and I give precisely 4.38 shits about the round badge. It's the best looking one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 22, 2019, 09:06:29 PM
The round badge is like TFAUSM - if you were there at the time, it'll almost certainly mean a lot to you.

If you weren't even born, you won't give much of a fuck.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 22, 2019, 09:14:46 PM
I like both designs, however the round one , if reinstated , does resemble the current Chelski one or should that be vice versa?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 22, 2019, 09:17:51 PM
The first ever Villa shirt I had was given to me by an older relative, it was the 1989 away hummel shirt. A beautiful shirt. It had the round badge on. It doesn't have to mean anything to me other than it looking the smartest. I would take the pre Lerner one as well though. I just want the Lerner one gone.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 22, 2019, 09:21:38 PM
Apparently itís a home cotton polo but one of those new ones without the collar:

https://m.shop.avfc.co.uk/stores/astonvilla/mobile/en/product/aston-villa-home-cotton-polo---claret/267158?categories=training

Nice, but £42 for a " grandad shirt" is a bit steep
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 24, 2019, 01:34:01 AM
Home shirt looked fantastic out there tonight.

Result helped, of course...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on August 24, 2019, 01:36:16 AM
The result still didn't help its shitness, sadly.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: olaftab on August 31, 2019, 12:38:49 AM
Number 8 with Liverpool at 1. Our neighbours at 34 and 36 sandwiching Millwall.
 
http://www.sportbible.com/football/news-top-10s-premier-league-football-league-clubs-have-been-ranked-on-shirt-sales-20190828?c=1566990511633%3Fsource%3Dfacebook&fbclid=IwAR02EAnSnx621_bPLKeekt0ZiwUST7KJsSJViHsVK6S_hU7LBJ9a9L8_RZ4
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 31, 2019, 12:48:05 AM
#levels

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5cf657afea0e1000010607a8/1566565278406-C0HTE9VZ884EVYJINYK7/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kKCSm696lRMKoOIQFw8mb8oUqsxRUqqbr1mOJYKfIPR7LoDQ9mXPOjoJoqy81S2I8N_N4V1vUb5AoIIIbLZhVYxCRW4BPu10St3TBAUQYVKcM1HB9iCSDSi9SW7p3eeU_PWri2FV4Oy1BaTgzdsy1SNr6DGpAtdhZJWDeg0FpW5M/WEST-midlands.jpg?format=1000w)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 31, 2019, 12:14:41 PM
Getting us the best deal outside the top six is good going. Well done to all concerned. And whoever negotiated Huddersfield's deal seems to be a genius.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: somec on August 31, 2019, 01:03:14 PM
Maybe we would be higher up the table if they were released earlier!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 31, 2019, 01:10:32 PM
Ah, yes. I misunderstood the graphics. Thought it was highest shirt deal not shirt sales. Yeah, it was still pretty ludicrous how long they took to go on sale.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 31, 2019, 02:11:17 PM
How are Huddersfield up so high, some deal with Paddy Power?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on August 31, 2019, 02:20:06 PM
How are Huddersfield up so high, some deal with Paddy Power?

No sponsor on the shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on August 31, 2019, 02:22:05 PM
They also did an old shirt amnesty swap thing for a new shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 08, 2019, 09:50:54 PM
https://twitter.com/AVFC_Religion/status/1170642572223635457?s=20

Some hideous examples of shit Kappa AVFC gear on that thread.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on September 13, 2019, 04:07:15 PM
I noticed this from today's press conference.


(https://i.ibb.co/7X1RF9k/17-LIVE-Press-Conference-West-Ham-home-You-Tube.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7X1RF9k)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on September 13, 2019, 04:53:48 PM
Fuck me! Cheer up Deano! We're gonna win!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 13, 2019, 05:12:01 PM
I noticed this from today's press conference.


(https://i.ibb.co/7X1RF9k/17-LIVE-Press-Conference-West-Ham-home-You-Tube.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7X1RF9k)


If you are able to look closely during the broadcast you can see the underside of the top line of the badge. So itís just folded. Theyíre not sending him out with the club badge falling off.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on September 13, 2019, 06:35:53 PM


Have another watch matey, they sent him out with the club badge falling off. You can even see the A, F, and C are also in poor condition.

It's quite embarrassing really.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2019, 06:49:14 PM
Our kits, kits are falling apart, again.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on September 14, 2019, 10:21:23 AM
Deano is one of us.

He puts his kit in the wash, and bits fall off.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: LukeJames on September 17, 2019, 05:28:03 PM
That new 3rd kit is absolutely horrendous.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: balloubaby on September 17, 2019, 05:32:01 PM
It is indeed...bloody awful! 😝
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on September 17, 2019, 05:45:30 PM
It is indeed...bloody awful! 😝

It's not that good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on September 17, 2019, 05:54:59 PM


I'm 48, and i've seen some shit kits over the years. But NONE, absolutely none have come anywhere near being this bad.

It's an absolute eyesore. I hated the original green and black one as well but compared to this one the original looked world class.

What on earth were they thinking  :-[
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 17, 2019, 06:18:44 PM
That new 3rd kit is absolutely horrendous.
Words fail me, it is an abomination.

If the question was, design the most horrible vomit inducing eye bleeding piece of shit, then I think they have met the brief.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on September 17, 2019, 06:19:34 PM
Good job I'm too tall and fat to fit into it .

Bring back LUKE
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on September 17, 2019, 06:37:05 PM
That new 3rd kit is absolutely horrendous.

Itís all a cunning plan to disorientate the Man City players by inducing seizures.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 17, 2019, 06:42:46 PM
I wonder if Teale thought all them blacks were mugging him?

https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1174005091705204742
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on September 17, 2019, 06:51:45 PM
As I said on Twitter, Kappa have been an unmitigated disaster.  The kit is truly horrible, and to make matters worse, they've chosen the 90s players like Teale to model it, and Kappa's appalling sizing really accentuate that they're not as slim as they used to be.  I just can't even begin to imagine who thought that any of this was a good idea.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 17, 2019, 06:54:22 PM
Just in case anyone is wondering what i'm on about, 1h 28m in

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on September 17, 2019, 06:58:06 PM
People are being harsh. The colour scheme is OK and it includes a free map of the Underground for use at away games in London. Whatís not to love?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on September 17, 2019, 07:04:59 PM
As I said on Twitter, Kappa have been an unmitigated disaster.  The kit is truly horrible, and to make matters worse, they've chosen the 90s players like Teale to model it, and Kappa's appalling sizing really accentuate that they're not as slim as they used to be.  I just can't even begin to imagine who thought that any of this was a good idea.

Actually I was thinking that at least the choice of models gives an honest representation of how it will look on a lot of fans. I reckon all mens fashion should be modelled by blokes with moobs, fat backs and beer bellies, then you can see how well the clothes hide them. Seriously though, I can't fathom why they chose to revisit that particular kit. I can't think of any we've had that was less adored.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on September 17, 2019, 07:10:33 PM
I quite like the home and away kit's. That third one is atrocious though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Pete3206 on September 17, 2019, 07:15:04 PM
Grotesque.

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on September 17, 2019, 07:24:00 PM
As I said on Twitter, Kappa have been an unmitigated disaster.  The kit is truly horrible, and to make matters worse, they've chosen the 90s players like Teale to model it, and Kappa's appalling sizing really accentuate that they're not as slim as they used to be.  I just can't even begin to imagine who thought that any of this was a good idea.

Actually I was thinking that at least the choice of models gives an honest representation of how it will look on a lot of fans. I reckon all mens fashion should be modelled by blokes with moobs, fat backs and beer bellies, then you can see how well the clothes hide them. Seriously though, I can't fathom why they chose to revisit that particular kit. I can't think of any we've had that was less adored.

I really liked the green and black striped number back in the day.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Bad English on September 17, 2019, 07:26:13 PM
Ok. I'll buy one if we win three on the trot starting with Ashburton Grove.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on September 17, 2019, 07:34:36 PM
Oh I know some people liked it, Richard E, but it seemed that lots didn't. I remember it being pretty controversial. If I was picking a classic old away kit to resurrect that one would be a long way down the list.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KevinGage on September 17, 2019, 07:36:02 PM
Decent looking kit and colours (on people who look vaguely athletic).

Horrendously oversized main sponsor. The tat on the sleeve doesn't help either.

A shame we couldn't have gone the Paddy Power route this year.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on September 17, 2019, 07:37:38 PM
As an aside, regardless of context (apart from this comment) all use of the word Ďiconicí should be a criminal offence.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 17, 2019, 07:42:07 PM
Im sure Jack will still make it look good
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chinchilla Bathhouse on September 17, 2019, 07:59:47 PM
As an aside, regardless of context (apart from this comment) all use of the word Ďiconicí should be a criminal offence.

Quite right. Out of interest I just looked up the word 'iconic' in the dictionary and it's now defined as 'meaningless marketing guff'.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ironmaidenmania on September 17, 2019, 08:17:17 PM
That third kit is truly appalling. Whatever possessed them to release that.

I tried on the home kit yesterday at XXXL & XXXXL and they are both tight fits, felt poor quality and then noticed that the badge is not the rubber one as on the elite. I have a XXXL Luke one which fits well over a longe sleeved tee for colder ngihts. This Kappa one is pitiful and I won't be buying one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Pete3206 on September 17, 2019, 08:30:04 PM
I hope the club are taking note of the reaction on their Twitter page as it's overwhelmingly negative.

Ditch that kit, it's shite.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 17, 2019, 08:53:52 PM
I loved the 1995 Muller kit but then we won a lot of games in it, at least in the first season we wore it. Not too keen on this new one but it's better than last year's third.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 17, 2019, 08:54:50 PM
Don't think much to this one. Probably be worn at Brighton in the cup and never again.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 17, 2019, 09:01:10 PM
Don't think much to this one. Probably be worn at Brighton in the cup and never again.

They going to wear it at Man City away apparently. We didn't always have to wear away kit at city, blue shorts always did the trick but I suppose as we now have a sky blue away kit it's a necessity.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: mike on September 17, 2019, 09:08:31 PM
Given all the  consultation committees, focus groups, market research etc that these things go through, I find it astonishing that no one, not least some grizzled old senior exec, at school some point said Ďthat is simply shit.í
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brassneck on September 17, 2019, 09:14:18 PM
Those of you who view the "Pride Points" pages will probably agree with me - They'll be offering loads of these shirts on there before very long - It's absolutely awful and will not sell well.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: LukeJames on September 17, 2019, 09:42:11 PM
I dont think I've ever seen the clubs support so unanimous in a decision since we appointed McLeish. I'm yet to see a single person on any social media platform that can come up with a positive.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on September 17, 2019, 10:12:45 PM
This widespread negativity all means one thing. Buy one, donít wear it and keep the tags on and in ten years itíll be worth a lot more than you paid for it.

In all honesty, this kit will be obsolete in no time at all so little point worrying about it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on September 17, 2019, 10:46:53 PM
It looks like something Spider-man might wear.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on September 18, 2019, 01:38:57 AM
I've got the old green and black one as a 5-a-side shirt. I don't mind this one. But then I'm just odd.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on September 18, 2019, 03:45:56 AM
I don't mind it. 90's nostalgia and all that. But Kappa make awful quality kits, and so won't be buying any of them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on September 18, 2019, 05:36:07 AM
I like it, apart from the orange sponsor and other symbols. Would be better in black.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Pete3206 on September 18, 2019, 06:06:48 AM
Would be better in the bin
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 18, 2019, 09:40:12 AM
If they were going to do a ďtributeĒ to that kit they should have just done just that i.e stripes etc and be done with it. As it is itís kind of crap.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dr Butler on September 18, 2019, 10:01:34 AM
I actually quite like it.....yea I said it :)


UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on September 18, 2019, 10:11:43 AM
I don't see the problem either. For me it perfectly fits with what a third kit should be. It's something that will be used a couple of times at most and it has to be completely different from the home and away kits.

Those 2 factors seem perfect to decide to do something very different. You won't always get it right but I'd rather this than just a 'safe' option every time. Given our colour scheme the 3rd kit should be green, yellow or black, so long as it's one of those and it's not just a recolour of the main kit then I'm  happy for it.

I will at this point hold my hand up and admit that I absolutely love some of the truly bizarre stuff Stade Francais have had over the last 10-15 years because it's so different and brave, that's probably enough to show that my view on sports kits is probably a bit different to most of you. Their 3rd kit from 3-4 years ago was my favourite:

(https://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/2252714/original/?width=573&version=2252714)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on September 18, 2019, 10:29:03 AM
I quite like "different" kits as well.  Just not when they're shit, though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on September 18, 2019, 10:30:55 AM
I quite like "different" kits as well.  Just not when they're shit, though.

If it's different lots of people will think it's shit, that's just the nature of it.

I wouldn't buy this one (mainly because the quality is absolutely fucking awful) but I don't have an issue with it and I suspect some people will really like it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on September 18, 2019, 10:37:43 AM
Worth remembering that back in 1993, plenty of people hated the green & black kit, yet when Score Draw reproduced them a few years ago, the yoof went mad for them.  No accounting for taste innit?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on September 18, 2019, 10:59:39 AM
I like it it's different.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on September 18, 2019, 11:22:31 AM
I quite like "different" kits as well.  Just not when they're shit, though.

If it's different lots of people will think it's shit, that's just the nature of it.

I wouldn't buy this one (mainly because the quality is absolutely fucking awful) but I don't have an issue with it and I suspect some people will really like it.

I like the kit you posted above, and I own a lot of very odd looking kits (it's sort of a hobby).  But the response to the 3rd kit has been almost universally negative.  And it's by Kappa, so it's a horible kit, badly made.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on September 18, 2019, 11:50:12 AM
I quite like "different" kits as well.  Just not when they're shit, though.

If it's different lots of people will think it's shit, that's just the nature of it.

I wouldn't buy this one (mainly because the quality is absolutely fucking awful) but I don't have an issue with it and I suspect some people will really like it.

I like the kit you posted above, and I own a lot of very odd looking kits (it's sort of a hobby).  But the response to the 3rd kit has been almost universally negative.  And it's by Kappa, so it's a horible kit, badly made.

I agree with the Kappa bit, I guess my point is that I'd rather see them swing and miss than not try at all. That Stade kit is truly special (I love the one with the pink and blue flowers as well - https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71RItgmtVCL._SL1500_.jpg) and you only get stuff like that by taking bold decisions.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KevinGage on September 18, 2019, 02:39:52 PM
Some of those SF kits are out there - which is no bad thing.  But having 17 stone rugby beefcakes trotting out in a floral kit leads me to suspect the designers might actually hate rugby.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on September 18, 2019, 02:44:21 PM
Worth remembering that back in 1993, plenty of people hated the green & black kit, yet when Score Draw reproduced them a few years ago, the yoof went mad for them.  No accounting for taste innit?

I doubt they produced that many in fairness
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on September 18, 2019, 03:02:48 PM
Some of those SF kits are out there - which is no bad thing.  But having 17 stone rugby beefcakes trotting out in a floral kit leads me to suspect the designers might actually hate rugby.

Nah, it was the club owner that started the whole thing and the fans and players loved it so they made it an official change, with the new badge and everything. The point was to have 2 kits that would never clash with anyone else, so blue and pink and pink and white, with Pink being the least used colour in sports kits. Given the clubs reputation as one of the most inclusive and liberal in sport it makes perfect sense for them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 25, 2019, 09:18:03 PM
Awesome quality

(https://i.ibb.co/wNb3qKd/FEF4-D52-A-79-DB-4-C7-B-BFB6-EB87-FF6-ED95-F.png) (https://ibb.co/wNb3qKd)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Three Spires Villa on September 26, 2019, 10:04:07 AM
We had a third black / grey kit with claret shorts under Nike, which I dont think we ever wore, maybe this will be the same?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 26, 2019, 10:11:43 AM
I quite like "different" kits as well.  Just not when they're shit, though.
Me too. This fit is horrible. The kappa print on for the training shirt started to peel after ONE wash. That's a record for crapness
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on September 26, 2019, 10:13:36 AM
I quite like "different" kits as well.  Just not when they're shit, though.
Me too. This fit is horrible. The kappa print on for the training shirt started to peel after ONE wash. That's a record for crapness

Yes, it's garbage.  My away kit with the dodgy badge, has started to peel after two washes after I've used it twice for 5 aside.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 26, 2019, 10:15:53 AM
I quite like "different" kits as well.  Just not when they're shit, though.
Me too. This fit is horrible. The kappa print on for the training shirt started to peel after ONE wash. That's a record for crapness

Yes, it's garbage.  My away kit with the dodgy badge, has started to peel after two washes after I've used it twice for 5 aside.
Thank God you didn't use detergent ;)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on October 26, 2019, 11:56:39 AM
More Kappa quality on show in front of the cameras.


(https://i.ibb.co/PNkdBgC/5-John-Mc-Ginn-We-re-capable-of-getting-something-at-Man-City-You-Tube.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PNkdBgC)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: London Villan on October 26, 2019, 12:20:47 PM
Itís the fault of the fans who bought the shirts... washing too hot, too cold, too long, too short. Not kappaís fault... no sir-eee. Now run along and stop complaining.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on October 27, 2019, 10:05:26 AM
If I bought that shite I'd be demanding a full refund, both Dean and John have been on camera now with damaged badges.

I saw a young lad yesterday in the official tracksuit with the same issue and all his mates singing "Where's your badge gone" "you've only got half a lion"  felt for him, red as a tomatoe
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ColinMac on October 28, 2019, 06:38:56 PM
Popped into the club shop yesterday, the 3rd kit looks quite nice in the flesh so to speak. But out off by both the price and the comments regarding the quality.
I did see that the club shop are selling replicas of the 1990-92 Umbro home kit, can't see it listed anywhere online, lovely bit if 90's  nostalgia.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on October 28, 2019, 06:43:27 PM
If I bought that shite I'd be demanding a full refund, both Dean and John have been on camera now with damaged badges.

I saw a young lad yesterday in the official tracksuit with the same issue and all his mates singing "Where's your badge gone" "you've only got half a lion"  felt for him, red as a tomatoe

Was this at the game? Or what you were doing in this scenario -- just hanging around listening to the lads...??  :D
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sdwbvf on November 17, 2019, 02:15:49 PM
My 7 year old wants a proper shirt. I have no problem with the sponsor - I had no idea what they did so he isn't likely to! But I am trying to work out what to buy. I tend to buy 11-12 for him generally. The mens shirts are too big, are the ladies ones shaped differently or is he going to have to be swamped!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on November 17, 2019, 02:46:23 PM
No age 5 kits left apart from with JD Sports. Ordered from them and they sent the away instead. Other than it not being what I ordered, it's shit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on January 01, 2020, 09:54:31 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/Z1TCnSp/61-BC2-D0-A-F564-4-E91-9616-EAD2460-AE25-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z1TCnSp)

(https://i.ibb.co/3yrXrbx/5-A337349-CAA1-4651-B7-CB-62986-E2-E65-A0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3yrXrbx)


Popped into the club shop yesterday and noticed a new range of Kappa gear in all black. Looked ok from a distance but when viewed up close, itís shockingly poor quality. The Villa badge looks so shit I had to take a picture as it appears to show the head of a strange creature, but not a Lion! Also, the shape of the crest is all wrong. Compare it to the home shirt to understand just how bad it looks.

It genuinely looks like dodgy fake gear, yet itís on sale in the club shop.
 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 01, 2020, 09:59:20 PM
Looks terrible. Kappa's stuff is shite. Does anyone know how long we're stuck with them for?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ad@m on January 02, 2020, 06:26:07 AM
That's criminal from a branding perspective.

Have you tried contacting Nicola Ibbetson on LinkedIn to tell her about it?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: stevo_st on January 02, 2020, 08:29:38 AM
We got our 6yr old one of the training tops and jackets for Xmas. Been very happy with the quality so far having been a bit nervous with all the criticism of Kappa
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 04, 2020, 03:14:46 PM
For those into old school

(https://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/images/fila-vintage-settanta-track-top-claret-blue-p14458-81815_medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on January 04, 2020, 04:38:37 PM
what on earth is club doing stocking that S*** in the club shop? i'm sorry but no matter who is in charge nothing seems to be put right, this looks like something you'd find on ebay for a fiver

Club on and off the pitch still acting like Sunday League for all the praise the new owners get there's still improvements to be made all over. we're miles behind the premiership 'big' clubs in so many ways
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on January 04, 2020, 04:54:51 PM

Club on and off the pitch still acting like Sunday League for all the praise the new owners get there's still improvements to be made all over. we're miles behind the premiership 'big' clubs in so many ways

I can't believe any Villa fan would say we're "Sunday League". What an absolutely pathetic comment.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 04, 2020, 04:56:20 PM
Club on and off the pitch still acting like Sunday League for all the praise the new owners get there's still improvements to be made all over. we're miles behind the premiership 'big' clubs in so many ways

Are we fuck.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on January 04, 2020, 05:09:44 PM
would Man Utd,Barcelona, or even Everton and Spurs allow that garbage to be stocked in the official store? it's embarrassing
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 04, 2020, 05:12:24 PM
Looks pretty bad, surely somebody checks this stuff before putting it on sale.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 04, 2020, 05:14:56 PM
There's a massive gap between stocking some shite made by Kappa (who are shit) and being a Sunday League side on and off the pitch. I've read some shit on here, and typed plenty, but that's right up there.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 04, 2020, 05:17:49 PM
would Man Utd,Barcelona, or even Everton and Spurs allow that garbage to be stocked in the official store? it's embarrassing

Have you seen some of their kits and tat over the years? Every club has shit they try to pawn off on fans. What youíve written is nonsense.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on January 04, 2020, 05:18:42 PM
There's a massive gap between stocking some shite made by Kappa (who are shit) and being a Sunday League side on and off the pitch. I've read some shit on here, and typed plenty, but that's right up there.

I don't think many Sunday League teams would put that crap on, it's been the same for years either poor quality or distribution issues etc . same with the poor service at the Ticket Office and so on . We never seem to be able to get anything quite right .
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on January 04, 2020, 05:18:54 PM
There's a massive gap between stocking some shite made by Kappa (who are shit) and being a Sunday League side on and off the pitch. I've read some shit on here, and typed plenty, but that's right up there.

Exactly. I mean, literally everything he posts is slagging off everything to do with Aston Villa. Everything.

Now we're "Sunday League on and off the pitch" because our kit supplier isn't good. Again, not the things an Aston Villa supporter would say in my opinion.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on January 04, 2020, 05:20:09 PM
There's a massive gap between stocking some shite made by Kappa (who are shit) and being a Sunday League side on and off the pitch. I've read some shit on here, and typed plenty, but that's right up there.

I don't think many Sunday League teams would put that crap on, it's been the same for years either poor quality or distribution issues etc . same with the poor service at the Ticket Office and so on . We never seem to be able to get anything quite right .

We might be better off shutting the club down completely.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on January 04, 2020, 05:20:19 PM
would Man Utd,Barcelona, or even Everton and Spurs allow that garbage to be stocked in the official store? it's embarrassing

Have you seen some of their kits and tat over the years? Every club has shit they try to pawn off on fans. What youíve written is nonsense.


There's a difference between a dodgy design and a badge like that, how that see's the rails of the club shop is beyond belief
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 04, 2020, 05:21:05 PM
There's a massive gap between stocking some shite made by Kappa (who are shit) and being a Sunday League side on and off the pitch. I've read some shit on here, and typed plenty, but that's right up there.
We never seem to be able to get anything quite right .

We certainly don't in your eyes.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on January 04, 2020, 05:23:21 PM
oh here we go i'm not a Villa Supporter because I have opinions  ::)

I just feel sorry for anyone who has ordered that online
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on January 04, 2020, 05:26:10 PM
oh here we go i'm not a Villa Supporter because I have opinions  ::)

I just feel sorry for anyone who has ordered that online

Your opinions involve slating this club from every angle possible.

Again, not the sort of thing an Aston Villa fan would continually write.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on January 04, 2020, 05:33:57 PM
For those into old school

(https://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/images/fila-vintage-settanta-track-top-claret-blue-p14458-81815_medium.jpg)

Quite nice. How much? Fila never "did" us but think they did make West Ham's kit in the halcyon days of Steve Lomas trimming his pubes on Paolo Di Canio's dressing room towel.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 04, 2020, 05:35:28 PM
I think it was £70 on some casuals site, not 100% as I saw it on Facebook.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 04, 2020, 05:37:53 PM
oh here we go i'm not a Villa Supporter because I have opinions  ::)

I just feel sorry for anyone who has ordered that online

I simply said you rarely have a good word to say, which you don't. Not a word about the win at Burnley for example. Team looked awful, DS and coaching team are on another planet and then you vanished off the match thread.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on January 04, 2020, 05:40:33 PM
oh here we go i'm not a Villa Supporter because I have opinions  ::)

I just feel sorry for anyone who has ordered that online

Your opinions involve slating this club from every angle possible.

Again, not the sort of thing an Aston Villa fan would continually write.

I'll slate a pathetic Badge like that , it's something i'd expect to be in the Small Heath shop, along with their dodgy Diaries . it should be nowhere near VP. We let ourselves down too often

And we're sitting fourth from bottom just lost to Championship Fulham and have been on a poor run of form so have every right to moan about on the field performances

It's like when DS and senior players have been on TV with half the club crest missing on their tracksuit jacket. looks piss poor
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on January 04, 2020, 05:46:08 PM
oh here we go i'm not a Villa Supporter because I have opinions  ::)

I just feel sorry for anyone who has ordered that online

I simply said you rarely have a good word to say, which you don't. Not a word about the win at Burnley for example. Team looked awful, DS and coaching team are on another planet and then you vanished off the match thread.

Fair point. Perhaps i'm over critical and after Burnley I would hope we pushed on with the same formation and get another win under our belts big ask to beat Leicester and Man City and then it's 3 defeats on the bounce and so on ....

I was quite positive at the start of the season on here but slowly had that drained from me as it seems history is sadly repeating itself .

We seem to do so much right then f*** it up on and off the pitch.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on January 04, 2020, 05:55:06 PM
I've said this numerous times but on the subject of the club's merchandise, for me it's very disappointing and has been for years.

I don't think it's too much to ask to have a good kit manufacturer and items in stock and released in pre season.

I dream of the day when I can purchase new merchandise that's made by a solid brand (Adidas, Nike or Umbro) and the crest isn't the Lerner one. It might not be important to many but it does affect the brand of the club imo. It's one thing that we can fix quite easily as it is in our control entirely.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on January 04, 2020, 05:56:06 PM
For those into old school

(https://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/images/fila-vintage-settanta-track-top-claret-blue-p14458-81815_medium.jpg)

Quite nice. How much? Fila never "did" us but think they did make West Ham's kit in the halcyon days of Steve Lomas trimming his pubes on Paolo Di Canio's dressing room towel.
https://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/track-tops-c26/fila-vintage-settanta-track-top-claret-blue-p14458
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on January 04, 2020, 06:34:22 PM
I've said this numerous times but on the subject of the club's merchandise, for me it's very disappointing and has been for years.

I don't think it's too much to ask to have a good kit manufacturer and items in stock and released in pre season.

I dream of the day when I can purchase new merchandise that's made by a solid brand (Adidas, Nike or Umbro) and the crest isn't the Lerner one. It might not be important to many but it does affect the brand of the club imo. It's one thing that we can fix quite easily as it is in our control entirely.

Imagine the sales of an Adidas strip with the 80's crest
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on January 04, 2020, 06:43:03 PM
I would love an Adidas kit, they're superb.

Isn't Sawiris on their board?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on January 04, 2020, 07:53:01 PM
I would love an Adidas kit, they're superb.

Isn't Sawiris on their board?

Something like that yes.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 04, 2020, 07:58:49 PM
Were we to ever have an adidas kit, the one thing I can guarantee is there'd be a heated debate about how three stripes have no place on a Villa kit, it looks too "West Ham", etc.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KRS on January 04, 2020, 08:04:34 PM
That pathetic effort on the badge is the final straw for me...proper embarrassing. Kappa can fuck right off.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 04, 2020, 08:31:50 PM
Were we to ever have an adidas kit, the one thing I can guarantee is there'd be a heated debate about how three stripes have no place on a Villa kit, it looks too "West Ham", etc.

Indeed
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 04, 2020, 08:41:58 PM
I haven't bought a kit for years - as they're usually shite.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on January 04, 2020, 08:49:32 PM
Had my brother-in-law staying with us yesterday, who's the chairman of Irish division 2 side Drogheda United.  They were going to get Kappa as well, but didn't because of the crap quality.  Incidentally they play in claret and blue as well.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on January 04, 2020, 08:59:55 PM
Celta Vigo away
(https://i.ibb.co/yWw2TXn/20191020-124530.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yWw2TXn)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 04, 2020, 09:04:33 PM
jesus christ, size of his head.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on January 04, 2020, 09:05:55 PM
Celta are still my Spanish team after they schooled us at VP in 1998 when we were riding high on top of the league. Some of their kits have been lovely over the years since.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 04, 2020, 09:10:34 PM
jesus christ, size of his head.

Yeah, wtf is going on there?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 04, 2020, 09:12:34 PM
It's a Corinthian figure come to life!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on January 04, 2020, 09:14:13 PM
Iago Aspas.Good player.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 04, 2020, 09:16:44 PM
As a famous philosopher once said, "big head, big head, big head"
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hillbilly on January 04, 2020, 11:22:22 PM
Had my brother-in-law staying with us yesterday, who's the chairman of Irish division 2 side Drogheda United.  They were going to get Kappa as well, but didn't because of the crap quality.  Incidentally they play in claret and blue as well.
This Dundalk supporter says hi.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 04, 2020, 11:25:45 PM
Were we to ever have an adidas kit, the one thing I can guarantee is there'd be a heated debate about how three stripes have no place on a Villa kit, it looks too "West Ham", etc.

Indeed



What if we just had stripes on the collars ?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave shelley on January 05, 2020, 10:17:19 AM
I took my kids up to see Villa play Drogheda in a pre-season friendly in, I think 1994.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on January 05, 2020, 12:41:15 PM
How did we do and who wore claret? Stevie Staunton must have got a mixed reaction.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave shelley on January 05, 2020, 12:51:35 PM
How did we do and who wore claret? Stevie Staunton must have got a mixed reaction.

We won as I recall, can't remember the score though.  I really don't remember too much about it at all apart from the drive there and back.  The highway infrastructure back then was terrible as you probably know.  Staunton was reasonably well received, as were the whole club.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 05, 2020, 05:05:30 PM
Would love to see us wearing a sponsorless retro Villa kit

(https://i.ibb.co/C1FwYtk/98-B6-D29-D-D6-EB-4539-BA7-D-A0-D4-A2-B7-E46-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C1FwYtk)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 05, 2020, 05:50:28 PM
What, and have no sleeve partner??
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 05, 2020, 06:45:05 PM
I took my kids up to see Villa play Drogheda in a pre-season friendly in, I think 1994.

Drogheda looms large in my ancestry. My great grandfather blew up the railway bridge in the war of independence. He had no real agenda but he was a quarryman so knew his way around a stick of dynamite, and was therefore in great demand. In many ways he was the Michy Batshuayi of his day.

Anyway, Kappa. I'm not too bothered either way.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: selly park trinity on January 05, 2020, 06:57:38 PM
Ha! I thought I was the only Dundalk fan on here. Slightly off topic I went on an early uefa cup tie between them and varteks. Their fans loved the villa and seemed to be great guys. Met us at the hotel with beers and food on arrival etc. Ah memories!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: N'ZMAV on January 05, 2020, 07:23:17 PM
What, and have no sleeve partner??
imagine a 1-11 setup too?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: brentastonb6 on January 05, 2020, 09:51:39 PM
I would love an Adidas kit, they're superb.

Isn't Sawiris on their board?
I think his shareholding in Adidas means he holds 12.5% of the company. Itís one of my favourite Bluenose wind ups when I see them in their Adidas kits , I always thank them for making one of our owners wealthier 😂
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on April 01, 2020, 02:10:50 PM
Is this supposed to be an April Fool? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/04/01/kappa-villa-statement)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: paul_e on April 01, 2020, 02:27:38 PM
Is this supposed to be an April Fool? (https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/04/01/kappa-villa-statement)

No, there's Italian articles about this from last week.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 01, 2020, 02:31:43 PM
The actual logo on their website still has the two sitting back to back (though there's nothing wrong with that, if they live together).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 01, 2020, 02:35:13 PM
This Dundalk supporter says hi.
Ha! I thought I was the only Dundalk fan on here. Slightly off topic I went on an early uefa cup tie between them and varteks. Their fans loved the villa and seemed to be great guys. Met us at the hotel with beers and food on arrival etc. Ah memories!

Up the Town! Milltown is a car park, Milltown is a car park.... ;)

Longford Town would be my closest LOI team but lived with 2 lads from Dundalk in Uni plus my uncle's from just over the border in South Armagh so have a soft spot for them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on April 06, 2020, 11:08:09 AM
60% off all Villa kits at the minute if that's of any interest to anyone.

http://zeta.ecommzone.com/lz/avilla/102D24/qBGyDSHqslaBzIBOAjoi6E7PmYTpuDqA0HS9ABENawA1/home.html?g4id=1
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JD on April 07, 2020, 06:03:30 AM
60% off all Villa kits at the minute if that's of any interest to anyone.

http://zeta.ecommzone.com/lz/avilla/102D24/qBGyDSHqslaBzIBOAjoi6E7PmYTpuDqA0HS9ABENawA1/home.html?g4id=1

Is that 60% of it falls off if you wear it?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 18, 2020, 10:45:34 PM
I quite like these, £50 seems a touch steep though

(https://productview2.fanobject.com/0028/2615/00282615_00.jpg?imwidth=600)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 18, 2020, 10:50:33 PM
This though, now this is the business.

(https://i.ibb.co/pdGwfX7/av2.jpg)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on June 18, 2020, 11:11:40 PM
First thing that came to mind was Leandro Bacuna wearing it with that grin people used to get wound-up by.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 18, 2020, 11:29:39 PM
This though, now this is the business.

(https://i.ibb.co/pdGwfX7/av2.jpg)

And that business is sex tourism.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on June 19, 2020, 08:51:59 AM
Genuine LOL. Very good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 19, 2020, 03:25:23 PM
This though, now this is the business.

(https://i.ibb.co/pdGwfX7/av2.jpg)

That's truly marvellous in its awfulness. Please tell me it's real and not a photoshop job. ;D
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2020, 05:30:02 PM
You can buy them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 19, 2020, 05:40:45 PM
You can buy them.

Are you sure? I can't see them on the OS. ;)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 19, 2020, 05:44:11 PM
Somewhat surprisingly, they aren't official merchandise but you can buy them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Herman on June 19, 2020, 06:06:14 PM
That should be the new kit. Pair it with some Bermuda style shorts. Lovely
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on June 19, 2020, 09:50:22 PM
You can buy them.

You CAN nail your nut bag to the kitchen table...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 19, 2020, 10:07:29 PM
I can imagine people buying them for stag dos. That sort of thing.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 19, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
I can imagine people buying them for stag dos. That sort of thing.

That's what I was thinking or to piss off Blues fans etc. when on holiday. Would probably sell better than some of the stuff on the OS. I saw this similar one which is "smarter" but unfortunately it's a scam website so avoid.

https://uk.foco.com/products/aston-villa-fc-floral-button-up-shirt?variant=32313647824976#

It appears the US version of the site ripped lots of people off purporting to sell Covid face masks with sports teams on them. Scumbags.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on June 19, 2020, 10:59:36 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/jyMM1RH/3-C1-F8269-91-D7-47-F8-B390-7-DBE0-D0-DE2-B2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jyMM1RH)


This oneís nice.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 19, 2020, 11:19:43 PM
This oneís nice.

I thought it wasn't bad as Hawaiian shirts go but I only saw it for sale on the scam website noted above.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: olaftab on June 19, 2020, 11:24:14 PM
I think the shirt is so you BV.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on June 19, 2020, 11:34:18 PM
It seems the popularity of LSD is still high round these parts.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 19, 2020, 11:38:20 PM
I think the shirt is so you BV.

I just want to be suitably attired for meeting you at our next Wembley appearance. Or will you suddenly have other plans if I show up in that? ;)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 28, 2020, 05:45:38 PM
W88 link up ends at the conclusion of this season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: placeforparks on June 28, 2020, 05:56:02 PM
W88 link up ends at the conclusion of this season.

there was rumours back in february that the new sponsor is going to be SportPesa, the current everton sponsor, and yet another betting firm.

they're based out of kenya/tanzania.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 28, 2020, 05:56:56 PM
No loss with their big (old) gold W. May be a forlorn hope but it would be nice to have a sponsor that isn't a gambling company.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Deano's Mullet on June 28, 2020, 06:57:41 PM
Are Mita Copiers still going?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villasjf on June 28, 2020, 07:01:42 PM
No loss with their big (old) gold W. May be a forlorn hope but it would be nice to have a sponsor that isn't a gambling company.
I agree all betting shirt sponsers should go the same way as cigarette and booze sponsers.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 28, 2020, 07:02:49 PM
Are Mita Copiers still going?

No, one of many former sponsors to be cursed after association with us. Muller yoghurts still exist, I believe.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 28, 2020, 08:53:45 PM
Are Mita Copiers still going?

No, one of many former sponsors to be cursed after association with us. Muller yoghurts still exist, I believe.

Cows are still alive and well.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 28, 2020, 09:02:39 PM
Are Mita Copiers still going?

No, one of many former sponsors to be cursed after association with us. Muller yoghurts still exist, I believe.

Cows are still alive and well.

Wouldn't want to be associated with them now given their White Supremacist links.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 28, 2020, 09:04:05 PM
Are Mita Copiers still going?

No, one of many former sponsors to be cursed after association with us. Muller yoghurts still exist, I believe.

Cows are still alive and well.

Wouldn't want to be associated with them now given their White Supremacist links.

You surprise me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 28, 2020, 09:12:33 PM
Lol.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 28, 2020, 09:36:26 PM
Are Mita Copiers still going?

No, one of many former sponsors to be cursed after association with us. Muller yoghurts still exist, I believe.

Cows are still alive and well.

Wouldn't want to be associated with them now given their White Supremacist links.

You surprise me.

Hardly an achievement.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 28, 2020, 09:47:41 PM
I'd take a sense of achievement wherever I could find one if I were you.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: placeforparks on June 29, 2020, 10:10:47 AM
new sponsor is a company called 'cazoo' who re-condition used cars.

never heard of them.

edit: cazoo are sponsoring everton as well next season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dazvillain on June 29, 2020, 10:12:13 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/Jzt8vZ2/BDF8-EA5-D-6-F78-48-ED-BA1-B-9-D03-CDCAE5-C9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jzt8vZ2)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: wozwebs on June 29, 2020, 10:12:37 AM
At least it's not another gambling company and kids can have a sponsor on their shirts again.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VILLA MOLE on June 29, 2020, 10:18:46 AM
Yep and a UK company as well. , !
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ironmaidenmania on June 29, 2020, 10:23:15 AM
NOw change from Kappa and have a proper shirt!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: charleeco7 on June 29, 2020, 10:24:48 AM
The brother in law is a buyer for them. Theyíre owned by the guy who set up love film amongst other firms and sold it making a fortune. They have decent financial backers and are really trying to push themselves as a brand. Paying £10 million to sponsor Everton but no idea what we are getting.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Somniloquism on June 29, 2020, 10:28:08 AM
I wonder if the division we in will have an effect or not.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on June 29, 2020, 10:33:33 AM
I like the fact we are sponsored by a Ďproperí company, not a gambling or financial institution.

Iím sure the amount they pay will be wholly dependant on what division we are in next season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on June 29, 2020, 10:34:39 AM
new sponsor is a company called 'cazoo' who re-condition used cars.

never heard of them.

edit: cazoo are sponsoring everton as well next season.

Set up by the bloke who founded Zoopla.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 29, 2020, 10:36:48 AM
Paying £10 million to sponsor Everton but no idea what we are getting.

Itís a 3 year deal with Everton at £10m per year?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on June 29, 2020, 10:39:40 AM
We're up shit's creek but thankfully we brought a Cazoo.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: charleeco7 on June 29, 2020, 11:23:14 AM
Paying £10 million to sponsor Everton but no idea what we are getting.

Itís a 3 year deal with Everton at £10m per year?

£10 million a year for three years.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: saunders_heroes on June 29, 2020, 11:24:38 AM
Glad weíre not sponsored by a gambling firm.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on June 29, 2020, 11:48:29 AM
We are getting 10mill a year for three years? If so, thatís a great deal for us.  They will also have the honour of sponsoring the biggest club in the championship if we do go down. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on June 29, 2020, 11:54:40 AM
A few websites seem to think the current sponsorship deal is worth £6m, one of the lower ones in the PL. £10m would appear to be in the region of what other clubs outside the top 6 are getting.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on June 29, 2020, 12:40:33 PM
A few websites seem to think the current sponsorship deal is worth £6m,

£6m, that would just about cover Drinkwater's annual salary
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: charleeco7 on June 29, 2020, 01:21:41 PM
We are getting 10mill a year for three years? If so, thatís a great deal for us.  They will also have the honour of sponsoring the biggest club in the championship if we do go down. 

Everton are get £10 million a year. No idea what we are getting but I doubt itíll be that high Iím afraid.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 29, 2020, 02:45:27 PM
Glad it's not a gambling company. Short name and shouldn't be too intrusive on the kit if it's just the white logo from the OS announcement.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 29, 2020, 03:01:40 PM
Join Cazoo, Cazoo
They're cheaper for me and you
We'll play in League One or Two
Join Cazoo, Cazoo

I really should be in advertising.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on June 29, 2020, 03:05:39 PM
Join Cazoo, Cazoo
They're cheaper for me and you
We'll play in League One or Two
Join Cazoo, Cazoo

I really should be in advertising.

I've spent most of my career in advertising. Your song is excellent but it lacks a clear CTA and brand anchoring. Have you considered football management?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 29, 2020, 03:13:21 PM
Join Cazoo, Cazoo
They're cheaper for me and you
We'll play in League One or Two
Join Cazoo, Cazoo

I really should be in advertising.

I like it especially with its CTA (Catchy Terrace Anthem).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on June 29, 2020, 03:25:33 PM
Join Cazoo, Cazoo

Even in League One or Two
Time for season ticket renew renew
Join Cazoo, Cazoo


With CTA
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on June 29, 2020, 04:48:48 PM
Call to action...ugh.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villa Lew on June 29, 2020, 04:56:16 PM
Good news, hopefully we'll never be sponsored by a gambling company again.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on June 29, 2020, 04:56:48 PM
Good news, hopefully we'll never be sponsored by a gambling company again.

3/1 against.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Flin5tone on June 29, 2020, 05:17:38 PM
Gutted to have lost our partnership with W88 , visionary company with great ethics .......... or not

Delighted we won't have a Gambling Company , was hoping for a charity based shirt but guess we need all the money we can get with Relegation looming !
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on June 29, 2020, 05:19:09 PM
Good news, hopefully we'll never be sponsored by a gambling company again.

This.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on June 29, 2020, 06:09:14 PM
Have they got a caraaayzee font that will look silly on the shirt ?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: frank on June 29, 2020, 08:02:58 PM
Apologies if this has already been spotted. Our Italians fans ask whether Villa realise that cazoo means cock in Italian
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 29, 2020, 08:06:31 PM
(https://d1f7geppf3ca7.cloudfront.net/resize/216038/mix.jpeg/400/400/1/?bg=FFFFFF)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on June 29, 2020, 08:11:16 PM
If we donít get that desperately annoying Kazoo kid (who is probably about 40 now) to launch the new kit then there is no hope for us.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on June 29, 2020, 11:05:09 PM
Have they got a caraaayzee font that will look silly on the shirt ?
(https://i.ibb.co/CKZdrKv/EB5-C9-A16-53-A8-487-D-9983-107-E64-C955-F8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CKZdrKv)
From https://www.sportindustry.biz/news/aston-villa-sign-cazoo-new-principal-partner
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 30, 2020, 01:59:07 PM
Search for a top manager who will Drive us on to the top 4 and Villa fans will Smile. Perfect for us!

If it's just the 5 letters "CAZOO" in white it will look okay on the shirt like Acorns did.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on June 30, 2020, 02:10:50 PM
Apologies if this has already been spotted. Our Italians fans ask whether Villa realise that cazoo means cock in Italian

That's like when Arsenal were sponsored by Sega, which I believe means 'wank' in Italian.  Didn't they change the sponsor to 'Dreamcast' for games against Italian sides? Bit less important for us, seeing as they thankfully did away with the Anglo-Italian Cup for the 2nd division a good while ago.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on June 30, 2020, 02:25:11 PM
Lulz.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on June 30, 2020, 02:26:27 PM
Apologies if this has already been spotted. Our Italians fans ask whether Villa realise that cazoo means cock in Italian

That's like when Arsenal were sponsored by Sega, which I believe means 'wank' in Italian.  Didn't they change the sponsor to 'Dreamcast' for games against Italian sides? Bit less important for us, seeing as they thankfully did away with the Anglo-Italian Cup for the 2nd division a good while ago.

Think it's cazzo anyway, be worse if it was vaffanculo but I'm sure our resident Italian expert can confirm.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 30, 2020, 11:01:30 PM
Apologies if this has already been spotted. Our Italians fans ask whether Villa realise that cazoo means cock in Italian

That's like when Arsenal were sponsored by Sega, which I believe means 'wank' in Italian.  Didn't they change the sponsor to 'Dreamcast' for games against Italian sides? Bit less important for us, seeing as they thankfully did away with the Anglo-Italian Cup for the 2nd division a good while ago.

Think it's cazzo anyway, be worse if it was vaffanculo but I'm sure our resident Italian expert can confirm.

Inded, cazzo means cock, not Cazoo.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave shelley on July 01, 2020, 09:26:05 AM
Apologies if this has already been spotted. Our Italians fans ask whether Villa realise that cazoo means cock in Italian

That's like when Arsenal were sponsored by Sega, which I believe means 'wank' in Italian.  Didn't they change the sponsor to 'Dreamcast' for games against Italian sides? Bit less important for us, seeing as they thankfully did away with the Anglo-Italian Cup for the 2nd division a good while ago.

Think it's cazzo anyway, be worse if it was vaffanculo but I'm sure our resident Italian expert can confirm.

Inded, cazzo means cock, not Cazoo.

But what does inded mean?   ;)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on July 01, 2020, 09:57:09 AM
We had some friends who used to live in Limehouse in that London, their local Italian restaurant (which was very good BTW) was called minge or fanny. I reckon that name was decided on after a very, very long lunch.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: placeforparks on July 03, 2020, 09:59:03 AM
here's the logo on the everton kit

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/DmXBQUKCDBaGALFKWMJledW1aMg=/0x0:602x600/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:602x600):format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/20065864/Kit1.png)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 03, 2020, 10:07:42 AM
Looks miles better than this seasons sponsor. Closest to acorns as aesthetic weve had for years
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Duncan Shaw on July 03, 2020, 11:09:32 AM
Oooh Everton have got Hummel...Ö.I love Hummel
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 03, 2020, 03:38:53 PM
Oooh Everton have got Hummel...Ö.I love Hummel

Those kits with the same sponsor as us are really quite nice. Simple. Those are the best kits

https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2020/7/3/21312082/hummel-reveal-new-everton-kit-shirt-jersey-sponsor-cazoo-home-away-third-new-design-latest
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Gary Penrice on July 03, 2020, 05:31:41 PM
How much longer have we got to endure Kappa for?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2020, 07:24:05 PM
Oooh Everton have got Hummel...Ö.I love Hummel

I'm not sure I want us to start next season wearing a shirt with loads of arrows pointing downwards on it. 🙁
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on July 03, 2020, 08:01:00 PM
How much longer have we got to endure Kappa for?

Quite like the Kappa kits, although quality is dubious. Just got my 6 year old the yellow goalie kit (last seen on Pepe Reina) and he loves it.

Green one was highly dubious mind.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Goldie.7 on July 03, 2020, 08:17:11 PM
How much longer have we got to endure Krappa for?

Fixed. Until 2022.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 03, 2020, 10:36:15 PM
Looks miles better than this seasons sponsor. Closest to acorns as aesthetic weve had for years

As hoped for above, should be unobtrusive if it's the same as Everton's. Not fan of Hummel kits at all, even the much lauded 86 Denmark one is terrible. Would love us to have Adidas at some stage.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 03, 2020, 10:40:45 PM
Given that we don't normally bother our arses to release a new strip until summer is basically over, McGrath knows when they will get around to releasing them after the conclusion of this season.

Maybe each kit could come with a free Santa hat, or Easter egg?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ian J on July 03, 2020, 10:42:26 PM
I bought a Kappa Villa training top to wear for running. Itís absolute pants, the badges is shitty heat press, the positioning is too high and itís just in general just shite. Luckily I only paid £14, however itís not really worth that.

Iíd like us to have Adidas, they do make some nice stuff. Iíve still got a Villa hoody made by Nike, great quality and must be 10 years old and still good. Itís nice and subtle, one small Nike badge and a tiny embroidered Villa badge on the sleeve. Quality.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 03, 2020, 11:45:58 PM
The new Adidas Celtic training kit looks smart. Wouldn't mind a Villa version of this this with claret and blue stripes on each arm.
https://store.celticfc.net/celtic-training-long-sleeve-jersey
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on July 04, 2020, 06:45:21 AM
£63 quid for a white shirt with three stupid stripes on each forearm?  Blimey!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on July 04, 2020, 07:53:52 AM
£63 quid for a white shirt with three stupid stripes on each forearm?  Blimey!

Itís mind blowing that anyone would pay that. I bought a couple of claret / maroon Adidas t shirts each for me and my lad a few weeks ago - about £40 for the lot. But add a club badge and sponsor and itís 6 or 7x the price.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2020, 01:25:44 PM
£63 and it looks shite. No doubt they'll sell loads.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 04, 2020, 01:37:12 PM
£63 quid for a white shirt with three stupid stripes on each forearm?  Blimey!

Scorn not its simplicity which I quite like. I thought it was a touch pricey too but Adidas have to recoup the 6M+ per season they're paying Celtic somehow.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 04, 2020, 04:26:33 PM
Yeah, but don't fall for it  just cos you're Irish.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 04, 2020, 05:59:30 PM
Yeah, but don't fall for it  just cos you're Irish.

I should be able to hold off given I'm not from Offaly. ;)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Grande Pablo on July 08, 2020, 08:35:07 PM
New Malvern Town kits from emerging manufacturer Hope & Glory - nice.  They're doing some interesting stuff.

https://malverntown.co.uk/news/new-home-and-away-kits-unveiled
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: curiousorange on July 08, 2020, 10:51:04 PM
Now that is a beaut.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sid1964 on July 09, 2020, 06:06:25 AM
I am surprised that they have not shown us what the new kit for next season looks like, it is July (maybe the club think that it is still April)?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on July 09, 2020, 07:28:00 AM
Chelseaís new away kit blurb:

ďIntroducing our new @nikefootball 20/21 away kit. Inspired by a classic tailored aesthetic but filtered through a modern street lens and colour palette.Ē

Iím not sure what that even means!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: JD on July 09, 2020, 07:57:02 AM
New Malvern Town kits from emerging manufacturer Hope & Glory - nice.  They're doing some interesting stuff.

https://malverntown.co.uk/news/new-home-and-away-kits-unveiled

Both nice tops.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: sid1964 on July 09, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
That bullshit that Chelsea are talking about with their kit, reminds me of bands talking about their inspiration for their new songs, they talk such waffle no-one can understand
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 09, 2020, 11:35:15 AM
Chelseaís new away kit blurb:

ďIntroducing our new @nikefootball 20/21 away kit. Inspired by a classic tailored aesthetic but filtered through a modern street lens and colour palette.Ē

Iím not sure what that even means!

It means it looks like a Man City inspired pyjama top. Having said that their new home kit is simple and smart.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 09, 2020, 11:39:22 AM
Chelseaís new away kit blurb:

ďIntroducing our new @nikefootball 20/21 away kit. Inspired by a classic tailored aesthetic but filtered through a modern street lens and colour palette.Ē

Iím not sure what that even means!

It means it looks like a Man City inspired pyjama top. Having said that their new home kit is simple and smart.

The home kit is decent if oddly 'muted'.

The away kit looks like fabric softener with sprinkles in it. Fucking awful
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 09, 2020, 11:42:11 AM
New Malvern Town kits from emerging manufacturer Hope & Glory - nice.  They're doing some interesting stuff.

Are they the same company that make/made regular men's shirts? I have one from the late 90s by a company called Hope + Glory.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 20, 2020, 07:59:44 PM
Shop opens again 10am on Wednesday. Card payments only, no changing rooms.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 26, 2020, 09:43:26 AM
Looks like we're a bit behind the other PL teams (along with Brighton and Palace). Not even sneak "previews" out there.

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2019/10/2020-21-kit-overview-all-20-21-kit-leaks-info.html

Also Stoke have joined Celtic and possibly West Ham in offering the home kit without the sponsor's logo. This is something I'd pay a premium for if I was buying a shirt and indeed would make me much more likely to buy one for the first time in years. Thoughts? Maybe one for the FCG to raise as a suggestion?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: LeeB on July 26, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
Looks like we're a bit behind the other PL teams (along with Brighton and Palace). Not even sneak "previews" out there.

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2019/10/2020-21-kit-overview-all-20-21-kit-leaks-info.html

Also Stoke have joined Celtic and possibly West Ham in offering the home kit without the sponsor's logo. This is something I'd pay a premium for if I was buying a shirt and indeed would make me much more likely to buy one for the first time in years. Thoughts? Maybe one for the FCG to raise as a suggestion?

Weíve gone through numerous owners and suppliers, and the one consistent thing through all of that is the complete inability to get the kit out in decent time.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: junxs on July 26, 2020, 02:00:29 PM
Looks like we're a bit behind the other PL teams (along with Brighton and Palace). Not even sneak "previews" out there.

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2019/10/2020-21-kit-overview-all-20-21-kit-leaks-info.html

Also Stoke have joined Celtic and possibly West Ham in offering the home kit without the sponsor's logo. This is something I'd pay a premium for if I was buying a shirt and indeed would make me much more likely to buy one for the first time in years. Thoughts? Maybe one for the FCG to raise as a suggestion?

I would also love that, I refuse to buy kits with gambling logos on them. Feels like I'm walking around advertising a bad habit that leads to mental health issues and suicides rather than a football top.

Last Villa top I bought was the DWS one (2006), been nothing but gambling logos since then. Well there was a couple of years of Intuit Quickbooks somewhere in there, but for whatever reason I never bought it probably because I fell out of the ritual of buying Villa tops by then.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: N'ZMAV on July 26, 2020, 02:04:03 PM
I don't buy shirts any more - they're often poor quality and over-priced shite
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2020, 02:27:10 PM
I imagine our kit depends on the division we are in and the sponsor that will be on it. Is the current one locked in if we go down?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: junxs on July 26, 2020, 03:30:19 PM
I imagine our kit depends on the division we are in and the sponsor that will be on it. Is the current one locked in if we go down?

Cazoo was announced as the new sponsor a few weeks ago
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2020, 03:43:58 PM
I imagine our kit depends on the division we are in and the sponsor that will be on it. Is the current one locked in if we go down?

Cazoo was announced as the new sponsor a few weeks ago

yes that's right. I forgot about that in all of the other stuff.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on July 27, 2020, 02:58:47 PM
Apparently, we got £12.5mill for reward money for finishing 17th.  With the money from Cazoo and Kappa etc, I hope this is the start of the bounce back to running a good quality business and sees an end to us losing around £5mill a month, like we were under Dr Xia. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 27, 2020, 03:00:33 PM
Speaking of Kappa, almost every other club has revealed its kits for next season by now. Where's ours?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 27, 2020, 03:16:52 PM
We need kit mock ups. Where is that fella who used to make them that were always way better than the ones we end up with?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2020, 05:17:09 PM
Knew it was a one word handle beginning with M (not Monty) but had to search and it's a poster called Marshall. Doesn't seem to post here the rest of the time.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: olaftab on July 27, 2020, 05:20:37 PM
Speaking of Kappa, almost every other club has revealed its kits for next season by now. Where's ours?
There was the little issue of which League knocking about I guess that delayed it?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 27, 2020, 05:26:23 PM
Well hopefully theyíre savvy enough to ride the current wave of euphoria amongst fans and get the kit launched and on sale sharpish. However...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 27, 2020, 05:30:05 PM
Speaking of Kappa, almost every other club has revealed its kits for next season by now. Where's ours?
There was the little issue of which League knocking about I guess that delayed it?

Why would a kit design rely on what league we were in? The contract was negotiated for 3 seasons with Kappa last year so it's not like there was any manufacturer business to be done which relied on the result.

It didn't stop Bournemouth releasing their kit weeks ago either, in fact they've already played in the new one in their last few games. The league has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 27, 2020, 05:30:28 PM
Looks like we're a bit behind the other PL teams (along with Brighton and Palace). Not even sneak "previews" out there.

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2019/10/2020-21-kit-overview-all-20-21-kit-leaks-info.html

Also Stoke have joined Celtic and possibly West Ham in offering the home kit without the sponsor's logo. This is something I'd pay a premium for if I was buying a shirt and indeed would make me much more likely to buy one for the first time in years. Thoughts? Maybe one for the FCG to raise as a suggestion?

Quite like West Hamís. Home and away. Very classical.
Albions is flippin awful
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2020, 05:51:01 PM
Looks like we're a bit behind the other PL teams (along with Brighton and Palace). Not even sneak "previews" out there.

https://www.footyheadlines.com/2019/10/2020-21-kit-overview-all-20-21-kit-leaks-info.html

Also Stoke have joined Celtic and possibly West Ham in offering the home kit without the sponsor's logo. This is something I'd pay a premium for if I was buying a shirt and indeed would make me much more likely to buy one for the first time in years. Thoughts? Maybe one for the FCG to raise as a suggestion?

Quite like West Hamís. Home and away. Very classical.
Albions is flippin awful

Agree 100%. Liverpool, Brighton, Everton and Spurs home shirts are also awful. Think Chelsea home and Saints away are smart but the latter highlights an important rule. No matter how nice the shirt it will be ruined by Chinese script in the sponsor's logo (see also Newcastle).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: spangley1812 on July 27, 2020, 06:45:36 PM
Speaking of Kappa, almost every other club has revealed its kits for next season by now. Where's ours?
There was the little issue of which League knocking about I guess that delayed it?

Why would a kit design rely on what league we were in? The contract was negotiated for 3 seasons with Kappa last year so it's not like there was any manufacturer business to be done which relied on the result.

It didn't stop Bournemouth releasing their kit weeks ago either, in fact they've already played in the new one in their last few games. The league has nothing to do with it.

Bournemouth/Brighton have not changed their shirt sponsor like we have
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cheadlevilla on July 27, 2020, 06:52:55 PM
I love the new Southampton Strip ....    very Peru!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: olaftab on July 27, 2020, 07:11:39 PM
Speaking of Kappa, almost every other club has revealed its kits for next season by now. Where's ours?
There was the little issue of which League knocking about I guess that delayed it?
Why would a kit design rely on what league we were in? The contract was negotiated for 3 seasons with Kappa last year so it's not like there was any manufacturer business to be done which relied on the result.
It didn't stop Bournemouth releasing their kit weeks ago either, in fact they've already played in the new one in their last few games. The league has nothing to do with it.
OK I stand corrected. I thought there was the issue of league sleeve badge. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 27, 2020, 07:12:35 PM
Speaking of Kappa, almost every other club has revealed its kits for next season by now. Where's ours?
There was the little issue of which League knocking about I guess that delayed it?

Why would a kit design rely on what league we were in? The contract was negotiated for 3 seasons with Kappa last year so it's not like there was any manufacturer business to be done which relied on the result.

It didn't stop Bournemouth releasing their kit weeks ago either, in fact they've already played in the new one in their last few games. The league has nothing to do with it.

Bournemouth/Brighton have not changed their shirt sponsor like we have

Yes they have 😂 Bournemouth switched from M88 to Vitality
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: spangley1812 on July 27, 2020, 07:52:29 PM
Speaking of Kappa, almost every other club has revealed its kits for next season by now. Where's ours?
There was the little issue of which League knocking about I guess that delayed it?

Why would a kit design rely on what league we were in? The contract was negotiated for 3 seasons with Kappa last year so it's not like there was any manufacturer business to be done which relied on the result.

It didn't stop Bournemouth releasing their kit weeks ago either, in fact they've already played in the new one in their last few games. The league has nothing to do with it.

Bournemouth/Brighton have not changed their shirt sponsor like we have

Yes they have 😂 Bournemouth switched from M88 to Vitality

Maybe Bournemouth's old shirt contract ran out in June
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 27, 2020, 10:00:31 PM
I love the new Southampton Strip ....    very Peru!

Like the away one. I could imagine that in pale blue with a claret sash.

For me Southampton are red and white stripes. Not the bar code type, but proper stripes.
Newcastle have gone to what I consider proper stripes and it looks so much better.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 27, 2020, 10:24:18 PM
For me Southampton are red and white stripes. Not the bar code type, but proper stripes.
Newcastle have gone to what I consider proper stripes and it looks so much better.

You may not like the new Inter kit then. Not 100% sure on the home one yet but like the other 2.
http://www.footballshirtculture.com/Kit-design/inter-milan-2020-21-home-away-and-third-kit-predictions.html

Also really like the new Dumbarton kit.
https://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com/news/?mode=view&id=4390
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on July 27, 2020, 10:58:52 PM
I think it was Benjamin Franklin who once wrote, ďThere are 3 certainties in life, death, taxes and Aston Villa to be the last team to release their new kit accompanied with the inevitable stock issues.Ē
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 27, 2020, 11:04:08 PM
We should launch our kits straight onto the discount rail, such is their persistent tardiness.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on July 27, 2020, 11:09:03 PM
I think it was Benjamin Franklin who once wrote, ďThere are 3 certainties in life, death, taxes and Aston Villa to be the last team to release their new kit accompanied with the inevitable stock issues.Ē

It is a shame that we can't be a bit more reliable.  It's my birthday soon and I am keen to have a look through the catalogue so I can wear the sacred colours in sunny Surrey.  Educate these people!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 27, 2020, 11:14:34 PM
Mid August launch allegedly
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on July 27, 2020, 11:16:51 PM
Mid August launch allegedly

Misses my buffday then Vinnie!  Not a happy chappy.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 27, 2020, 11:19:09 PM
Mid August launch allegedly

Basically, the only thing that has enabled us to get the kit out before the start of the season is the existence of a global pandemic causing a near total breakdown in society as we know it.

And even then it's only "launch", no doubt it'll be Christmas before they let people spend 50 quid on something knocked together for 3 quid by some nimble fingered eight year old in a death-trap factory in Bangladesh.

It's amazing - doesn't matter who owns the club, who the CEO is, who makes the kit, who distributes it, all that, it makes zero difference, we're always incapable of making it possible for people to buy this tat when they want to buy it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Steve67 on July 27, 2020, 11:23:07 PM
Mid August launch allegedly

Basically, the only thing that has enabled us to get the kit out before the start of the season is the existence of a global pandemic causing a near total breakdown in society as we know it.

And even then it's only "launch", no doubt it'll be Christmas before they let people spend 50 quid on something knocked together for 3 quid by some nimble fingered eight year old in a death-trap factory in Bangladesh.

It's amazing - doesn't matter who owns the club, who the CEO is, who makes the kit, who distributes it, all that, it makes zero difference, we're always incapable of making it possible for people to buy this tat when they want to buy it.

Paulie, I'd like you to be a bit more honest and concise with your posts in future.  Why can't you just say it like it is please? Flip sake!

(You're ranting has been pretty good just recently, although Axl Rose's still makes me laugh)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 27, 2020, 11:27:48 PM
Mid August launch allegedly

Basically, the only thing that has enabled us to get the kit out before the start of the season is the existence of a global pandemic causing a near total breakdown in society as we know it.

And even then it's only "launch", no doubt it'll be Christmas before they let people spend 50 quid on something knocked together for 3 quid by some nimble fingered eight year old in a death-trap factory in Bangladesh.

It's amazing - doesn't matter who owns the club, who the CEO is, who makes the kit, who distributes it, all that, it makes zero difference, we're always incapable of making it possible for people to buy this tat when they want to buy it.

Paulie, I'd like you to be a bit more honest and concise with your posts in future.  Why can't you just say it like it is please? Flip sake!

(You're ranting has been pretty good just recently, although Axl Rose's still makes me laugh)

Even when we get an owner who is the largest private shareholder in Adidas, we still can't get the supply of over-priced sporting goods correct.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care, I don't want to be showing people low quality Kappa lycra stretched across my beer gut and bitch tits, and I have no idea why people like to spend that much money on such things, but I firmly believe if people want to give the club money, we should make it as easy as possible for them to do it.

We just can't handle it, for some reason.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 27, 2020, 11:29:47 PM
Paulie, you had me at Ďbitch titsí
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 27, 2020, 11:30:30 PM
It really is poor quality we wait for !!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 27, 2020, 11:34:27 PM
Iím sure that at some time in mid March, whoever is running the shambles of our commercial operation suddenly thinks ĎShit! Next seasonís kití, rather like me remembering my mot was due last week most years.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on July 27, 2020, 11:35:47 PM
I wore my seen better days Kappa training shorts to my spin class this morning as a celebration. As soon as I lent into the first hill climb I immediately felt sorry for the person directly behind me.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2020, 11:40:14 PM
For me Southampton are red and white stripes. Not the bar code type, but proper stripes.
Newcastle have gone to what I consider proper stripes and it looks so much better.

You may not like the new Inter kit then. Not 100% sure on the home one yet but like the other 2.
http://www.footballshirtculture.com/Kit-design/inter-milan-2020-21-home-away-and-third-kit-predictions.html

Also really like the new Dumbarton kit.
https://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com/news/?mode=view&id=4390

I think Dumbarton fans voted for their kit (which Clyde are doing for the 2021/22 season I believe), from a choice of 4. Maybe we will do that one day
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 27, 2020, 11:40:55 PM
Marshall's mock ups are always much better than the kit we end up having xx
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: algy on July 28, 2020, 06:38:56 AM
It is a shame that we can't be a bit more reliable.
Surely the problem is that tm we're a bit too reliable, since everyone knows the kit will be basically unavailable until Easter
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on July 28, 2020, 03:11:44 PM
The new Wolves home shirts are horrible. Black sleeves. They should disband.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on July 28, 2020, 03:28:12 PM
It's great that we're back to worrying about when the kit is launched as opposed to relegation.  With that said I agree with Paulie that it seems pretty careless to not be geared up to cash in on the goodwill factor at a time when lots of people are prepared to hand over lots of money for poorly made tat.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on July 28, 2020, 03:29:43 PM
The new Wolves home shirts are horrible. Black sleeves. They should disband.

Tacky. Suits them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on July 28, 2020, 03:58:04 PM
We have to wait again for our kit release.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: danno on July 28, 2020, 05:22:19 PM
The new Wolves home shirts are horrible. Black sleeves. They should disband.

It's probably just my prescription lenses, but I get narked beyond a reasonable level when a TV commentator refers to their strip as "old gold". It's orange, it's wotsit/Tango/David Dickinson shade orange!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 28, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
For me Southampton are red and white stripes. Not the bar code type, but proper stripes.
Newcastle have gone to what I consider proper stripes and it looks so much better.

You may not like the new Inter kit then. Not 100% sure on the home one yet but like the other 2.
http://www.footballshirtculture.com/Kit-design/inter-milan-2020-21-home-away-and-third-kit-predictions.html

Also really like the new Dumbarton kit.
https://www.dumbartonfootballclub.com/news/?mode=view&id=4390

Hmm, yes, not keen on that. Like the white 3rd top, though.

Dumbartonís is class, really nice.
I associate them with black and gold stripes, though, but in fairness that was a few years ago
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: luke95 on July 28, 2020, 05:34:55 PM
We have to wait again for our kit release.
Season 2020/21 was due to start a week saturday & yet we still dont know about a new kit or when itll be released. Its poor again by the club infact its abysmal.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 28, 2020, 05:36:30 PM
Every year. Never changes.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 28, 2020, 05:47:59 PM
Difference being this year I think it will go on sale immediately as itís unveiled (rather than shown and then a future date/pre orders)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 28, 2020, 05:51:13 PM
Difference being this year I think it will go on sale immediately as itís unveiled (rather than shown and then a future date/pre orders) for the first 50 customers

FTFY!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: luke95 on July 28, 2020, 05:53:39 PM
Difference being this year I think it will go on sale immediately as itís unveiled (rather than shown and then a future date/pre orders)
It should be on sale now !!!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 28, 2020, 07:11:26 PM
Where's Marshall when we need him?

Bitch tits ftw !
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: curiousorange on July 28, 2020, 07:50:52 PM
That Wolves kit is horrible. I thought they'd screwed the pooch last season when they all ran around like satsumas, but that's a new level of tinpot.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: curiousorange on July 28, 2020, 07:52:22 PM
And that Liverpool one. If there was another reason needed to stop them winning the league again, it would be so Aquafresh FC don't get to hold the trophy aloft.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 28, 2020, 08:21:46 PM
That Wolves kit is horrible. I thought they'd screwed the pooch last season when they all ran around like satsumas, but that's a new level of tinpot.

Looks terrible, what's with the tyre marks on the body although the alternate colour on the sleeves is clearly a nod to our classic claret with blue sleeves.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: andyh on July 29, 2020, 10:12:14 PM
This monstrosity is doing the rounds on Twitter.

https://t.co/G3MFBYvKR4
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Duncan Shaw on July 29, 2020, 10:19:03 PM
My god
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 29, 2020, 10:20:44 PM
My eyes, my eyes!!!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Des Little on July 29, 2020, 10:22:56 PM
Aciiiiiiiiieeeeeeed!!!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 29, 2020, 10:23:18 PM
Well, it's certainly different....
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 29, 2020, 10:24:11 PM
Photoshop apparently, panic over...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Three Spires Villa on July 29, 2020, 10:24:31 PM
Well, it's certainly different....

Different as in a feckin disgrace different?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 29, 2020, 10:25:14 PM
Looks a bit Jackson Pollock
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on July 29, 2020, 10:30:24 PM
Looks photoshopped. The badge and logos donít appear to be on the shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ozzjim on July 29, 2020, 10:38:15 PM
If that's it, its the worst we've had in a long, long time!!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 29, 2020, 10:39:43 PM
I doubt it's the real shirt
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Three Spires Villa on July 29, 2020, 10:45:52 PM
No I doubt think it is, well I hope not
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on July 29, 2020, 10:46:37 PM
There is a new training top in the Club Shop. £90. Which struck me as a little excessive.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 29, 2020, 10:57:50 PM
That's worth more than some of the players who would be wearing it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: VinnieChase84 on July 29, 2020, 11:20:28 PM
Not real. We also have a black and gold number
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on July 29, 2020, 11:28:37 PM
A what?

Fuck me, that will set them off.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on July 29, 2020, 11:31:35 PM
I'm starting to miss the Macron days
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 29, 2020, 11:49:51 PM
Good fucking grief. Stayed up last second. All kinds of happiness and euphoria. Then we could be hit with that. Say it ainít so.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 29, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Okay then. It ain't so.

I mean, obviously. Come on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 29, 2020, 11:53:05 PM
My honest opinion is they can do whatever the f they like with the away kit so long as they get the home right. I was wearing my Luke 1977 home kit on Sunday and decided it's still light years ahead of the first effort from Kappa (even without the classic blue sleeves). Kappa have much to improve on this season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2020, 12:06:53 AM
This monstrosity is doing the rounds on Twitter.

https://t.co/G3MFBYvKR4

Holy fuck.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 30, 2020, 12:10:23 AM
For those curious, the best way to tell that's a fake is not the (admittedly awful) contrast and placement of the sponsor logos and badge, it's the fact that the inside of the shirt visible above the awful front collar and below the hanger is basically black. For the light that's available, fabric in claret and blue  couldn't possibly show up that dark.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 30, 2020, 12:16:13 AM
It looks white and gold to me. What are you lot seeing?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 30, 2020, 12:21:57 AM
It looks white and gold to me. What are you lot seeing?

Suzanne Virdee modelling it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 30, 2020, 12:23:10 AM
Ding dong.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2020, 02:22:15 AM
https://twitter.com/mavmclovin77/status/1288441367820218368?s=21

This kit is lovely
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 30, 2020, 08:14:22 AM
I'm starting to miss the Macron days

And lead Kit designers with fluffy outrageous scarves. Those were the days...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 30, 2020, 10:37:23 AM
This monstrosity is doing the rounds on Twitter.

https://t.co/G3MFBYvKR4

Holy fuck.

I'd put decent money on the actual kit being worse than that.  Kappa are appalling in every single way.  Designs - shit, quality - shit.    Still can't understand why we signed up with that chavvy bollocks.  What next, boot deal with Lonsdale?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on July 30, 2020, 10:56:06 AM
I didn't mind the shirts to be honest. I really liked the away one especially.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Jon Crofts on July 30, 2020, 10:58:01 AM
Do we know how much Kappa pay us to be the provider of this tat?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 30, 2020, 11:05:28 AM
I don't think it matters, there's not a hope of it fitting anyway.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villa Lew on July 30, 2020, 11:41:41 AM
Gotta be a fake
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 30, 2020, 12:59:11 PM
I didn't mind the shirts to be honest. I really liked the away one especially.

This years away one was ace. Home and third not such a fan of.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: postal on July 30, 2020, 08:11:24 PM
I really never liked the green kit would rather them go crazy and have a yellow as the 3rd.

I always liked the 3rd kit from 2013/14 which was the quarter white/'blackcurrent'

What I would like to see a American Football or Baseball style shirt in Villa colours  ;D
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 30, 2020, 08:24:52 PM
I really dislike when he have yellow away kits. Too Arsenal and it always brings back horrible memories of the 1991/92 FA Cup loss to Liverpool.

The quartered kit was different but smart. I liked it a lot.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 30, 2020, 08:33:10 PM
I'm starting to miss the Macron days

And lead Kit designers with fluffy outrageous scarves. Those were the days...

I remember that ridiculous promotional video.

All about the incredible artistic endeavour and input, and how they were putting 'feeling' into it, then the output was something you'd expect to see Luton playing in.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 30, 2020, 09:37:28 PM
I really never liked the green kit would rather them go crazy and have a yellow as the 3rd.

I always liked the 3rd kit from 2013/14 which was the quarter white/'blackcurrent'

What I would like to see a American Football or Baseball style shirt in Villa colours  ;D

That was the 2nd kit, bud
The 3rd kit was the 2nd kit from the previous season.

I do agree, though, it was one of my favourite away tops

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 30, 2020, 09:47:02 PM
Both this season's change kits were great, I thought. In terms of appearance, that is. I know some who actually parted with money were unimpressed with the quality.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on July 30, 2020, 09:54:46 PM
I think most of our away kits are meh, last one I really liked was the Crystal Palace slash one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on July 31, 2020, 09:53:49 AM
I loved the 'Collymore' away one, light blue/claret horizontal border/white which we revived for, I think, our first season in the Ch'shit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 31, 2020, 09:56:38 AM
Both this season's change kits were great, I thought. In terms of appearance, that is. I know some who actually parted with money were unimpressed with the quality.

I got the away one for playing 5 aside in.  The quality was diabolical, but they refunded my money and told me to keep it, so it was basically free.  I also bought the 'elite fit' third kit in the sales, and to be fair the quality of the kit is a bit better on that one, although all of the printing still only lasted for one wash.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villan82 on July 31, 2020, 09:56:55 AM
I loved the 'Collymore' away one, light blue/claret horizontal border/white which we revived for, I think, our first season in the Ch'shit.

It was a lovely kit as were the two previous ones - dark blue in 1995-96 and white in 1996-97.

The 1999-2000 white one with diagonal stripe was also pretty cool.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 31, 2020, 09:59:27 AM
I loved the 'Collymore' away one, light blue/claret horizontal border/white which we revived for, I think, our first season in the Ch'shit.

It was a lovely kit as were the two previous ones - dark blue in 1995-96 and white in 1996-97.


The white kit with the turquoise AST sponsor from around that time is still my favourite Villa kit ever.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villan82 on July 31, 2020, 10:53:45 AM
I loved the 'Collymore' away one, light blue/claret horizontal border/white which we revived for, I think, our first season in the Ch'shit.

It was a lovely kit as were the two previous ones - dark blue in 1995-96 and white in 1996-97.


The white kit with the turquoise AST sponsor from around that time is still my favourite Villa kit ever.

Yes, that's the one. I love that kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 31, 2020, 10:55:47 AM
1990-93 away shirt is the best for me. Reminds me of being young and full of hope.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on July 31, 2020, 02:15:49 PM
1990-93 away shirt is the best for me. Reminds me of being young and full of hope.

The white one with black bits on the sleeve which we wore black shorts with?

Young and full of hope, thems were the days...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 31, 2020, 02:23:49 PM
Yes mate, 1990-93 in the link below. The one before was lovely, too. To be honest I've liked all the Villa away kits since I've been a fan. I didn't start until 1988 so missed that yellow monstrosity in the mid-80s.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 31, 2020, 02:32:22 PM
I like the 1922/23 kit and would really like them to bring it back on the 100th anniversary
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 31, 2020, 02:41:12 PM
I like the 1922/23 kit and would really like them to bring it back on the 100th anniversary

Oh, yes 👍
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: aldridgeboy on July 31, 2020, 03:25:24 PM
Just popping off to Google 😀
Iíll be back shortly 😀
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hairbandinho on July 31, 2020, 06:08:34 PM
Home kit revealed tomorrow at 10am.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 31, 2020, 06:09:52 PM
As ever, claret shirt and blue sleeves or fuck off.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 31, 2020, 07:16:10 PM
As ever, claret shirt and blue sleeves or fuck off.

And that's why you can never go back to cubs.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villadelph on July 31, 2020, 08:07:22 PM
honest question. What happened to long sleeve shirts?

I was a shoe-in to buy one every year.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: stevo_st on July 31, 2020, 09:22:29 PM
Global warning  :(
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on July 31, 2020, 09:25:24 PM
honest question. What happened to long sleeve shirts?

I was a shoe-in to buy one every year.
Me too, I've resorted to buying old ones on eBay now..never felt comfortable in a short sleeved football shirt, even when I was a player in the Walsall&District Division 3..
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on July 31, 2020, 09:33:46 PM
Kit reveal is tomorrow morning at 10am.... Its appeared in my diary....
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2020, 09:35:58 PM
Letís just hope itís not that polka dot monstrosity.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on July 31, 2020, 09:36:59 PM
be interesting to see how close these are

https://www.xxxx.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gallery/aston-villa-new-kit-kappa-18539722
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2020, 09:45:50 PM
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/cdn.footyheadlines.com/amp/5401629990717638150

If you scroll down on this link to the new Lorient kit, that in our colours would be just fine. The away one is quite nice too. Not so keen on the third
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2020, 09:52:36 PM
These just popped up and I have to say I love all three

https://twitter.com/davidredford10/status/1289258018647846915?s=21
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 31, 2020, 09:53:26 PM
They all look great, doubt it will be them.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2020, 09:57:04 PM
Another rumour has the away kit as black and claret and the away a cream colour. Just keep it simple designs and most of us should be happy...I think
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 31, 2020, 10:01:46 PM
The white kit with the turquoise AST sponsor from around that time is still my favourite Villa kit ever.

Same here, the only away kit I've ever bought. Wore it to a River Plate game at the Monumental. The following week I went to Rio and a Brazilian girl I met took a shine to it, she obviously had good taste (in shirts at least).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 31, 2020, 10:07:09 PM
They all look great, doubt it will be them.

Agreed, the third kit in particular. Home kit doesn't seem to have enough Kappa logos to be genuine. Also not generally a massive fan of light blue shoulders on the home kit but I suppose they have to change it up somehow.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on July 31, 2020, 10:18:57 PM
Then new Lorient kit doesnít have many logos on it
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on July 31, 2020, 10:31:04 PM
True, which is good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 31, 2020, 10:32:55 PM
Then new Lorient kit doesnít have many logos on it

I wish they'd make their minds up. First it was Leyton Orient, then just Orient, then back to Leyton Orient. Just having an L at the front seems to be a halfway house that pleases nobody.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on July 31, 2020, 10:33:49 PM
Then new Lorient kit doesnít have many logos on it

I wish they'd make their minds up. First it was Leyton Orient, then just Orient, then back to Leyton Orient. Just having an L at the front seems to be a halfway house that pleases nobody.

Oh dear
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 31, 2020, 10:34:34 PM
Oh dear indeed.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AV82EC on July 31, 2020, 10:35:51 PM
Oh dear indeed.

Donít worry some of us appreciated the humour.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on July 31, 2020, 10:40:13 PM
One-upped by ATAL again, for shame.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sexual Ealing on July 31, 2020, 10:41:18 PM
Oh dear indeed.

Don’t worry some of us appreciated the humour.

Thanks.

It's mad. One thinks one exudes a persona of urbane, wry sophistication and then bang. People think you're a Herbert like all the others!

Edit: this is also a joke, btw!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 31, 2020, 11:48:01 PM
The white kit with the turquoise AST sponsor from around that time is still my favourite Villa kit ever.

Same here, the only away kit I've ever bought. Wore it to a River Plate game at the Monumental. The following week I went to Rio and a Brazilian girl I met took a shine to it, she obviously had good taste (in shirts at least).

I wore mine while on a trip to Prague in the mid 90s and copped off with a girl from Dublin called Louise.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on July 31, 2020, 11:49:04 PM
Then new Lorient kit doesnít have many logos on it

I wish they'd make their minds up. First it was Leyton Orient, then just Orient, then back to Leyton Orient. Just having an L at the front seems to be a halfway house that pleases nobody.

Youíre worth it!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 01, 2020, 12:27:22 AM
The white kit with the turquoise AST sponsor from around that time is still my favourite Villa kit ever.

Same here, the only away kit I've ever bought. Wore it to a River Plate game at the Monumental. The following week I went to Rio and a Brazilian girl I met took a shine to it, she obviously had good taste (in shirts at least).

I wore mine while on a trip to Prague in the mid 90s and copped off with a girl from Dublin called Louise.

I know her. Poor you!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: aldridgeboy on August 01, 2020, 02:00:24 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/DRXKtck/32-B0-A9-B0-061-C-4765-9458-5-A6722-F6455-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DRXKtck)


Doing the rounds on Twitter. So must by true 😂
I hope not. Iíve never like any stripes on our kit ( maybe 88 as an exception )
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dougs Socks on August 01, 2020, 02:02:31 AM
I will wait until I see the shirt with my own eyes before passing judgement. The pic I have seen looks atrocious, the claret being to light and the blue to dark. Now I'm guessing that's due to the light and camera settings.?

Could we please get rid of that God awful Lerner badge...its jinxed. New owners, New belief, New outlooks, New badge...meaning the old lucky circular one ;)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 01, 2020, 09:42:22 AM
Not a fan of black away shirts but weíll see. Home shirt Hopefully claret shirt, blue sleeves, blue socks with bit more colour round neck/ collar than last seasons.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 01, 2020, 09:59:25 AM
Launching in one minute. I stumbled on that fact rather timely!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hairbandinho on August 01, 2020, 10:02:16 AM
It's actually really nice
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 01, 2020, 10:02:27 AM
It's claret shirt, blue sleeves. Hurrah! Added bonus is the shorts and socks are right, too.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: saunders_heroes on August 01, 2020, 10:05:05 AM
Blimey I actually like it!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on August 01, 2020, 10:06:17 AM
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/cdn.footyheadlines.com/amp/5401629990717638150

If you scroll down on this link to the new Lorient kit, that in our colours would be just fine. The away one is quite nice too. Not so keen on the third

Really like their white away top. If you imagine a claret sash
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on August 01, 2020, 10:07:23 AM
Hard to get a decent still from the video clip shared but here you go....

(https://i.ibb.co/1m5DmXP/DF761-C8-D-5-E7-F-4-AE2-8-F9-E-EF780-CAFA0-AA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1m5DmXP)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 01, 2020, 10:07:32 AM
Itís ok. V similar to the 03-04 shirt but preferred the neck on that one. Claret shirts, blue sleeves so ticks the boxes. Prefer it when we have blue arms as opposed it over the shoulders as well but weíve had worse. Some of the comments on Facebook are strange....ĒWhere are the claret shorts?Ē says one guy. Claret shorts?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on August 01, 2020, 10:11:25 AM
Hard to get a decent still from the video clip shared but here you go....

(https://i.ibb.co/1m5DmXP/DF761-C8-D-5-E7-F-4-AE2-8-F9-E-EF780-CAFA0-AA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1m5DmXP)


You can see a still picture on the official site.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 01, 2020, 10:15:20 AM
Can't get the Villa site to load so if someone could post a decent still of the whole kit on here, I'd appreciate it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on August 01, 2020, 10:16:23 AM
Can only see women's variant on site at the moment, if you can get to it....
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave shelley on August 01, 2020, 10:16:55 AM
Can't get the Villa site to load so if someone could post a decent still of the whole kit on here, I'd appreciate it.

I got in but I can't find what I'd call a decent shot of it, poor lighting imo.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Mister E on August 01, 2020, 10:17:30 AM
Can't get the Villa site to load so if someone could post a decent still of the whole kit on here, I'd appreciate it.
Site seems to have crashed
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ColinMac on August 01, 2020, 10:21:27 AM
https://twitter.com/SamirGaibee/status/1289490546830999552?s=19
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: kieron on August 01, 2020, 10:22:44 AM
From Cazoo's Twitter account:

(https://i.ibb.co/zQ0gVLs/716-B009-D-A5-E1-46-E0-B311-08-E4505-FF35-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zQ0gVLs)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 01, 2020, 10:23:07 AM
Can't get the Villa site to load so if someone could post a decent still of the whole kit on here, I'd appreciate it.
Same.
Must be Noses getting ahead of us!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 01, 2020, 10:23:53 AM
Horrible
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on August 01, 2020, 10:30:47 AM
Hard to tell without seeing it properly but it looks ok.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 01, 2020, 10:31:57 AM
Not mad on it tbh. Colours are good, the stripes are fine but have never liked the blue on shoulder and the end of the sleeve (in a different material?) should be claret or the whole sleeve the same. The material itself seems "ribbed" which I think should feel better quality wise than last seasons's which seemed a bit "thin".
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nevillain on August 01, 2020, 10:32:04 AM
Itís ok. Would have preferred blue v neck. I like a blue v neck
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 01, 2020, 10:34:15 AM
Has anyone checked the Pantone numbers yet to confirm the appropriate claret and blue-ness?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: johnny from donny on August 01, 2020, 10:39:55 AM
Not bad but I don't really like the blue shoulders.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on August 01, 2020, 10:45:43 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/j8WWF5D/B14-D6374-9-FC5-4-F6-E-9-FB2-B28-C623-FE40-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j8WWF5D)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2020, 10:45:53 AM
(https://images.footballfanatics.com/aston-villa/aston-villa-home-stadium-shirt-2020-21_ss4_p-12013468+pv-1+u-5a9jeu9j2uaqxaiz2sf5+v-4f51e39cadee454e8fceccd3a30bb351.jpg?_hv=1&w=900)

(https://images.footballfanatics.com/aston-villa/aston-villa-home-stadium-shirt-2020-21_ss4_p-12013468+pv-2+u-5a9jeu9j2uaqxaiz2sf5+v-a120c46349e546bd912f9a50257bc631.jpg?_hv=1&w=900)

(https://images.footballfanatics.com/aston-villa/aston-villa-home-stadium-shirt-2020-21_ss4_p-12013468+u-5a9jeu9j2uaqxaiz2sf5+v-587e1efa9f0b413793bc3fc1ffba3bfd.jpg?_hv=1&w=900)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2020, 10:48:10 AM
It's ok. I don't really see the point of the vertical lines.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 01, 2020, 10:50:36 AM
Has to be a bit different every year, I doubt you'll notice them when they're on a person.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villan82 on August 01, 2020, 10:51:56 AM
It's smart, simple and just a Villa kit.

Like others, I am not mad on the stripes but they seem subtle enough.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 01, 2020, 10:57:02 AM
It's smart, simple and just a Villa kit.

Agree with that, between the sponsor and the lack of Kappa logos it's a very unfussy design compared to other club's kits. We've definitely had a lot worse.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2020, 10:58:01 AM
It's great but I will only like it if it makes people wearing it play competently.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Proposition Joe on August 01, 2020, 11:04:27 AM
It's ok. I don't really see the point of the vertical lines.

I think stripes make the players go faster.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: KevinGage on August 01, 2020, 11:05:23 AM
Looks OK - but then I thought the mock up with polka dots looked OK as well so maybe I'm slipping.

This year's looks closer to the Martin Laursen/ MON era which is no bad thing. If nothing else, Kappa seem to have managed the right shade of claret after years of purple and blue from Under Armour.

Last year's kit would have been decent as well without that oversized sponsor on the front and the Chinese warning signs on the sleeve.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 01, 2020, 11:12:25 AM
It's great but I will only like it if it makes people wearing it play competently.

It's a football shirt, not a magic wand.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: thick_mike on August 01, 2020, 11:15:34 AM
The badge looks a bit far north
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villan82 on August 01, 2020, 11:15:55 AM
Looking at villa historical kits, you forget how awful those macron kits were. Absolutely dreadful with far too much going on.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on August 01, 2020, 11:17:34 AM
Has to be a bit different every year, I doubt you'll notice them when they're on a person.
if I was wearing one of those tight Kappa shirts, the stripes definitely wouldnít be vertical!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 01, 2020, 11:18:37 AM
Looking at villa historical kits, you forget how awful those macron kits were. Absolutely dreadful with far too much going on.


Going on a lot of peoplesí comments thereís much disappointment that thereís not enough going on. I donít agree myself but itís the same argument every year. I liked the Luke kit but only for 1-2 years, I still would always prefer the traditional design and this is traditional.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 01, 2020, 11:26:58 AM
The colours arenít right, the stripes are awful and the less said about the yoke the better.
Why canít they get something as simple as a football shirt right?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Clampy on August 01, 2020, 11:27:58 AM
The colours arenít right, the stripes are awful and the less said about the yoke the better.
Why canít they get something as simple as a football shirt right?

But apart from that, you quite like it?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 01, 2020, 11:28:31 AM
The colours arenít right, the stripes are awful and the less said about the yoke the better.
Why canít they get something as simple as a football shirt right?

But apart from that, you quite like it?
Did I mention the badge?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on August 01, 2020, 11:29:56 AM
I quite like it, just bought the blue away shirts and a training t-shirt. UTV.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on August 01, 2020, 11:30:15 AM
Bit underwhelming really. 5/10.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 01, 2020, 11:31:32 AM
The colours arenít right, the stripes are awful and the less said about the yoke the better.
Why canít they get something as simple as a football shirt right?

There's no matches being played and we haven't bought anyone yet. If it wasn't for the new kit you'd have nothing to moan about so be grateful.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 01, 2020, 11:33:13 AM
The colours arenít right, the stripes are awful and the less said about the yoke the better.
Why canít they get something as simple as a football shirt right?

There's no matches being played and we haven't bought anyone yet. If it wasn't for the new kit you'd have nothing to moan about so be grateful.
I look forward to seeing you wearing it next season.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 01, 2020, 11:36:32 AM
Who or what are Cazoo?

I like the shirt, claret with blue sleeves. The feint stripes on the claret add a bit of style to it. And Iíll say the same as I say every new season, if we play well in it and succeed it will beCome a great kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 01, 2020, 11:37:36 AM
The colours arenít right, the stripes are awful and the less said about the yoke the better.
Why canít they get something as simple as a football shirt right?

There's no matches being played and we haven't bought anyone yet. If it wasn't for the new kit you'd have nothing to moan about so be grateful.
I look forward to seeing you wearing it next season.

You should know my opinion of grown men wearing football shirts by now.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 01, 2020, 11:38:14 AM
I quite like it, just bought the blue away shirts and a training t-shirt. UTV.

Away shirts?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 01, 2020, 11:42:16 AM
I like it.  Claret body, blue sleeves, few little different twists to keep it interesting, job done.  100 times better than the season just gone.  Hope it's better quality this year though.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Zouch Villa on August 01, 2020, 11:44:50 AM
Itís not promoting some random betting company, and looks claret and blue, so ticks my boxes.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2020, 11:51:27 AM
Itís great. Itís precisely how a Villa kit should look. All of the basic elements are on point. You donít even see the stripes from a distance

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1289486027732602882?s=21
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dave P on August 01, 2020, 11:52:36 AM
We only win cups with some sort of stripes so all good there.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 01, 2020, 12:02:29 PM
It's fine. Claret and blue and unfussy.

Not sure about the fit again, so no doubt I won't get one!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on August 01, 2020, 12:05:30 PM
Has anyone checked the Pantone numbers yet to confirm the appropriate claret and blue-ness?

Maybe the Villa brand guidelines have changed. Last year's kit was supposedly matched closer to the brick facades at Villa Park.

(https://i.ibb.co/LZ6gr7x/Screen-Shot-2019-07-09-at-13-15-10.png) (https://ibb.co/LZ6gr7x)

(https://i.ibb.co/ckgXFH0/Screenshot-2020-08-01-at-12-02-50.png) (https://ibb.co/ckgXFH0)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on August 01, 2020, 12:11:17 PM
Really nice kit. Like the 08/09 one, which was solid.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hairbandinho on August 01, 2020, 12:15:45 PM
Strange how the women's version is a v neck but the mens is rounded.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on August 01, 2020, 12:17:29 PM
I quite like it, just bought the blue away shirts and a training t-shirt. UTV.

Away shirts?

Sorry my typo, away shorts (or alternate home shorts).
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2020, 12:21:55 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2020/08/01/2020-21-home-kit-gallery
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villan82 on August 01, 2020, 12:39:00 PM
We only win cups with some sort of stripes so all good there.

Except 1996, 1977, 1975?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 01, 2020, 12:39:21 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/rQwD09T/20200801-123634.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Twg92yp)
Ninety quid!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Villan82 on August 01, 2020, 12:48:19 PM
Is it just me or did we hardly ever wear the blue kit last season? I think we ended up wearing the green third kit more often than the blue away kit?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on August 01, 2020, 12:58:04 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Zm2ZDzH/villa-kit.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zm2ZDzH)

In reality, bland. Needs some arms to fill out the sleeves.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2020, 01:01:47 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Zm2ZDzH/villa-kit.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zm2ZDzH)

In reality, bland. Needs some arms to fill out the sleeves.

Or put another way, precisely as it should be. No fuss. Simple design, right colours. The away, and more specifically the third kit can be as creative as they want to be.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 01, 2020, 01:07:20 PM
Why is the sponsor above nipple level?

Why is the crest so high up it looks awkward and crooked on the shoulder?

Nah. Shite.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on August 01, 2020, 01:09:08 PM
T-Rex arms there.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on August 01, 2020, 01:09:59 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Zm2ZDzH/villa-kit.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zm2ZDzH)

In reality, bland. Needs some arms to fill out the sleeves.

Or put another way, precisely as it should be. No fuss. Simple design, right colours. The away, and more specifically the third kit can be as creative as they want to be.
I think the blue is too pale. The 92 Umbro sleeves had a pizzazz to them and I don't know what they call it in the industry but during the 90's kits had that kinda shiny, reflective weave pattern going on. Bring a bit of that back.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on August 01, 2020, 01:10:58 PM
T-Rex arms there.
🤣
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2020, 01:12:47 PM
Whoís Nathan Dawe?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on August 01, 2020, 01:13:16 PM
Why is the sponsor above nipple level?

Why is the crest so high up it looks awkward and crooked on the shoulder?

Nah. Shite.
Never clocked that until you said. Does look too high.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on August 01, 2020, 01:14:27 PM
Whoís Nathan Dawe?
Some guy who pretends he's a DJ.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: amfy on August 01, 2020, 01:16:04 PM
Whoís Nathan Dawe?

https://youtu.be/bJwLnupq74U
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 01, 2020, 01:18:05 PM
The badge looks a bit far north

I thought that too, the crest, Kappa logo and sponsor could all do with being lower down. Having seen the full kit it's growing on me. I like the mesh type effect on the fabric and I hope Cazoo are our sponsors for some time, the plain white lettering isn't too obtrusive and it's not a gambling company.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2020, 01:20:31 PM
Whoís Nathan Dawe?

https://youtu.be/bJwLnupq74U

Ta. The bit I listened to, I only heard a girl singing. Is Nathan Dawe a girl?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Tuscans on August 01, 2020, 01:22:27 PM
Whoís Nathan Dawe?

https://youtu.be/bJwLnupq74U

Ta. The bit I listened to, I only heard a girl singing. Is Nathan Dawe a girl?
Arms of a girl. He's the bloke in the shirt.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2020, 01:23:29 PM
Whoís Nathan Dawe?

https://youtu.be/bJwLnupq74U

Ta. The bit I listened to, I only heard a girl singing. Is Nathan Dawe a girl?
Arms of a girl. He's the bloke in the shirt.

Haha I know that. But yes, bloke with girl arms. And voice.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2020, 01:24:42 PM
You donít even see the stripes from a distance
I hope opposition players  get a good look at stripes next season...right in their face.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 01, 2020, 01:26:46 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Diablo on August 01, 2020, 01:30:01 PM
Why is the sponsor above nipple level?

Why is the crest so high up it looks awkward and crooked on the shoulder?

Nah. Shite.
If the club crest was any further north it would be a Epaulette.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 01, 2020, 01:32:29 PM
Our new shirts were £55 when I posted earlier, they're now £57.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2020, 01:36:34 PM
I think the badge is in the spot as this years. The blue coming down off the shoulder makes it seem higher than it is. So if anything is should be slightly lower because if the blue. And of course if youíre a bloke with tits itís going to be up around your chin.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: fbriai on August 01, 2020, 01:39:13 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: olaftab on August 01, 2020, 01:41:25 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss
But it is an "active" shirt you will lose weight just by wearing it after losing 90 pounds immediately on purchase.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on August 01, 2020, 01:41:43 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?

Iíd imagine the pro one wonít fall apart after one wash.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 01, 2020, 03:51:01 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?

As far as I can tell (from owning the standard version last season), the Pro version has a molded rubber badge/crest.

That's eh.... about the only difference I can see.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 01, 2020, 04:01:42 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?

I would imagine the pro one looks really bad on fat blokes! I certainly won't be having one!!

Am I unusual that mine from last season hasn't fallen apart yet. My daughter wears hers in the pool and it seems fine still.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: maidstonevillain on August 01, 2020, 04:15:21 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?

£33 it would seem.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 01, 2020, 04:27:18 PM
Training top

https://twitter.com/avfctranstweet/status/1289494539334385664?s=21
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: amfy on August 01, 2020, 04:27:27 PM
Whoís Nathan Dawe?

https://youtu.be/bJwLnupq74U

Ta. The bit I listened to, I only heard a girl singing. Is Nathan Dawe a girl?
Arms of a girl. He's the bloke in the shirt.

Haha I know that. But yes, bloke with girl arms. And voice.

I am not sure how serious these questions are but the vocals are from the sample of the original track ĎFlowersí by Sweet Female Attitude from 2000. Nathan Dawe gets credit as an artist for twiddling the knobs to mix it with Jaykayeís contribution & change the beat to make it a hit in 2020.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 01, 2020, 05:14:57 PM
Meh, it's 08/09 with a shit rubber badge.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Kevin Dawson on August 01, 2020, 05:37:03 PM
Why can't we have a sewn on badge? I've still got mine from my first shirt that I got in 1979....my Mother was kind enough to take the badge off before she threw the shirt out without telling me when I was 12...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: p_ad on August 01, 2020, 06:23:44 PM
Like it, looks stylish, best thing about it though is it will have a premier League badge on the sleeve
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: A|C on August 01, 2020, 06:46:05 PM
My boy wants the new kit so I just added it all up, they want an eye watering £84. I'm not sure what normal 6 year olds are like but mine with ruin it with grass and astro turf black marks in days.

He's going to have to keep wearing the 18 to 19 season one a bit longer, nothing wrong with boys in crop tops in this day and age.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Smirker on August 01, 2020, 07:44:30 PM
I think it looks rather splendid indeed. Its miles better than this season's.

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT Villan on August 01, 2020, 07:54:44 PM
Kappa must have discovered the Nike patterns in a box somewhere at VP.

Not a fan of the stripes. Otherwise it's ok, I guess.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: johnny from donny on August 01, 2020, 10:29:23 PM
Do we not have a sleeve sponsor this coming season?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 01, 2020, 10:57:39 PM
Hopefully it's Visit Wakanda.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on August 02, 2020, 10:58:27 AM
Does anyone know where I would get the Luke home strip? I love that shirt, but couldn't afford it at the time.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on August 02, 2020, 11:40:27 AM
Does anyone know where I would get the Luke home strip? I love that shirt, but couldn't afford it at the time.

I wouldnít hold your breath, mossie, Iím pretty sure I read on here a while back that you could sell a good condition used one for £50+ as they were in demand.
And Iím pretty sure, again, that someone mentioned one going for close to £100
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: amfy on August 02, 2020, 11:54:20 AM
Does anyone know where I would get the Luke home strip? I love that shirt, but couldn't afford it at the time.

I wouldnít hold your breath, mossie, Iím pretty sure I read on here a while back that you could sell a good condition used one for £50+ as they were in demand.
And Iím pretty sure, again, that someone mentioned one going for close to £100

Check on eBay - used Luke shirts are fetching twice the price they were new! I wish Iíd got one now it would have been a good investment!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on August 02, 2020, 01:12:14 PM
Sound. I even entered an Instagram comp to win one, but no joy!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: aldridgeboy on August 02, 2020, 11:04:49 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/9321LQ8/4-D357524-03-FF-469-B-BD05-2953-A6-A2-EE16.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9321LQ8)


Those two are on Social Media. Iíd say the black one is probably accurate, as it matches the one that was on a few days ago next to the home one, which turned out to be correct.

But by God , that Camo one ? Awful
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 02, 2020, 11:20:41 PM
Maybe we're doing another Squaddies VHS.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 02, 2020, 11:25:50 PM
This is also on Twitter. The black one resembles whatís above and the third is based on rumours the third kit is a cream colour. Iíd be happy if these are the kits.

https://twitter.com/jd_designs1/status/1290008788985028608?s=21

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 02, 2020, 11:44:27 PM
I agree TV that those would be fine. The problem is that, if the unveiled home shirt is nothing to go by, the sponsor, logo and crest will be too high. Their placement on the 3 shirts above is perfect.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2020, 09:00:41 AM
That away one, in navy, brings to mind the lovely 95/96 away shirt, my first one. Less keen on it if it's in black.

The third one reminds me of the Liverpool 1996 one, when the word "ecru" was introduced to the footballing lexicon.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: PeterWithe on August 03, 2020, 09:01:04 AM
But by God , that Camo one ? Awful

Where?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 03, 2020, 09:01:28 AM
But by God , that Camo one ? Awful

Where?

That's good camo.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on August 03, 2020, 10:53:45 AM
Looks like the away kit is black and the third choice is some light camouflage pattern monstrosity.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2020, 10:55:48 AM
They've clearly decided that they're going to have some fun with the third kits.  I've actually grown to like the current green monstrosity, and it's my Tuesday night 5 aside kit of choice.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on August 03, 2020, 11:01:12 AM
They've clearly decided that they're going to have some fun with the third kits.  I've actually grown to like the current green monstrosity, and it's my Tuesday night 5 aside kit of choice.

Reminds me of one I had as a kid when it was Asics. Horrible, but kinda good.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 03, 2020, 11:04:38 AM
The cream one is vomit inducing, god no.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2020, 11:06:54 AM
They've clearly decided that they're going to have some fun with the third kits.  I've actually grown to like the current green monstrosity, and it's my Tuesday night 5 aside kit of choice.

Reminds me of one I had as a kid when it was Asics. Horrible, but kinda good.

That's what it was an homage to, wasn't it, the stripey Muller one.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: aldridgeboy on August 03, 2020, 11:20:12 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/VNY5q5b/D68-DC52-F-45-AA-4325-95-BA-B79-CBF9-A9357.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VNY5q5b)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 03, 2020, 11:27:28 AM
The cream one is vomit inducing, god no.
I liked it!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 03, 2020, 11:34:20 AM
The third one reminds me of the Liverpool 1996 one, when the word "ecru" was introduced to the footballing lexicon.

I thought that was an Everton hooligan firm.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2020, 11:45:17 AM
They've clearly decided that they're going to have some fun with the third kits.  I've actually grown to like the current green monstrosity, and it's my Tuesday night 5 aside kit of choice.

Reminds me of one I had as a kid when it was Asics. Horrible, but kinda good.

That's what it was an homage to, wasn't it, the stripey Muller one.

Yes. The promo last year had middle-aged Tony Daley (still looking fit and ripped), Shaun Teale and one or two others (Bryan Small?) all sporting the new shirt. Was quite nice/sad (from a passing of time perspective) to see them kitted out in Villa 'colours' once more.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on August 03, 2020, 11:46:14 AM
I donít really like the home one- looks usual cheap tat. Black away is not really an option for me in the unforgiving QLD sun. The cream one could work if they could shoehorn a bit of claret and blue into it.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2020, 11:46:56 AM

Yes. The promo last year had middle-aged Tony Daley (still looking fit and ripped), Shaun Teale and one or two others (Bryan Small?) all sporting the new shirt. Was quite nice/sad (from a passing of time perspective) to see them kitted out in Villa 'colours' once more.

Tony Daley is in amazing shape for a bloke his age.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on August 03, 2020, 11:50:15 AM
The Luke one from last year already sounds like itís become a bit of a collectors item. Wish Iíd got one of either home or away shirts.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on August 03, 2020, 01:30:16 PM
The Luke one from last year already sounds like itís become a bit of a collectors item. Wish Iíd got one of either home or away shirts.

Blimey, might have to consider selling mine, might start a bidding war 👍
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2020, 01:34:51 PM
The Luke one from last year already sounds like itís become a bit of a collectors item. Wish Iíd got one of either home or away shirts.

Blimey, might have to consider selling mine, might start a bidding war 👍

Did you agree to a release clause upon purchase of the shirt ?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: nigel on August 03, 2020, 01:44:01 PM
The Luke one from last year already sounds like itís become a bit of a collectors item. Wish Iíd got one of either home or away shirts.

Blimey, might have to consider selling mine, might start a bidding war 👍

Did you agree to a release clause upon purchase of the shirt ?

😂
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 03, 2020, 02:00:51 PM
I donít really like the home one- looks usual cheap tat. Black away is not really an option for me in the unforgiving QLD sun. The cream one could work if they could shoehorn a bit of claret and blue into it.
Why does it look cheap tat?  I know last seasons was poor quality, but there's nothing in the photos released that makes this look poor quality.  Quite the oppisite it looks very good.  It may well fall apart, but I just wondered why you thought it looked tat?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2020, 02:08:27 PM
I get Kappa isnít the greatest but some will never be happy unless it has Puma or Nike or Adidas on it. Itís a kit. The colours are correct and the design is very traditionally Aston Villa. This years kit looks just fine And the away looks very decent in the images weíve seen so far. The away kit has creative licence. It wonít be for everyone and itís not meant to be.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Richard E on August 03, 2020, 02:10:30 PM
I just hope we aren't wearing the third kit when Jack lifts the FA Cup at Wembley in May.   
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2020, 02:10:33 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?

The pro version is made of stretchy, clingy material that's really tight fitting.  The 'stadium' version is looser like a normal footy top.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ads on August 03, 2020, 03:19:43 PM
New shirt ordered for the wee man. Erred on the side of caution and put McGinn on the back instead. £39.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 03, 2020, 03:38:16 PM
I get Kappa isnít the greatest but some will never be happy unless it has Puma or Nike or Adidas on it. Itís a kit. The colours are correct and the design is very traditionally Aston Villa. This years kit looks just fine And the away looks very decent in the images weíve seen so far. The away kit has creative licence. It wonít be for everyone and itís not meant to be.

Colours and tradition are the important bits every new season. This delivers on that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: fbriai on August 03, 2020, 04:02:50 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?

The pro version is made of stretchy, clingy material that's really tight fitting.  The 'stadium' version is looser like a normal footy top.

Thanks, mate. That makes sense. So the pro version is basically the one the first team play in.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2020, 05:10:29 PM
I guess so.  I bought the pro version of the 3rd kit in the sale.  I'd say the overall quality of the material of the shirt is better, but the numbering and lettering still started to peel off after a couple of washes.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 03, 2020, 05:45:01 PM
The pro version has to be more durable. Itís athletes chasing athletes. The other version is for fat blokes chasing pies
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 03, 2020, 06:02:58 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?

The pro version is made of stretchy, clingy material that's really tight fitting.  The 'stadium' version is looser like a normal footy top.
Looser - but still slim fit, right? Or do they do "normal human fit" also?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 03, 2020, 09:51:27 PM
£90 for the ďproĒ shirt? Taking the piss

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between the 'pro' shirt and the normal one?

The pro version is made of stretchy, clingy material that's really tight fitting.  The 'stadium' version is looser like a normal footy top.
Looser - but still slim fit, right? Or do they do "normal human fit" also?

Yes the non-pro Kappa kits are still very snug, and according to lots of people, at least a size smaller than they are used to.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 03, 2020, 10:14:17 PM
It actually says that in the size guide they sent out with the launch email this year. And the pro version appears to come up about two sizes out.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on August 04, 2020, 07:59:02 AM
The pro version has to be more durable. Itís athletes chasing athletes. The other version is for fat blokes chasing pies

I love that. It would be a fantastic advertising slogan to have above the kits in the club shop.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Yeltzer on August 05, 2020, 10:32:36 AM
So are we having new sleeve sponsors too?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 05, 2020, 10:54:31 AM
I get Kappa isnít the greatest but some will never be happy unless it has Puma or Nike or Adidas on it. Itís a kit. The colours are correct and the design is very traditionally Aston Villa. This years kit looks just fine And the away looks very decent in the images weíve seen so far. The away kit has creative licence. It wonít be for everyone and itís not meant to be.

Colours and tradition are the important bits every new season. This delivers on that.

For me the blue is still far too pale to describe as correct or traditional. It's a world away from the blue of the 1980/81 home kit or the 81/82 European Cup winning kit, or even the 1957 FA Cup winning shirt.

It certainly isn't the blue from our shirts in the '90s, though I'm not saying that's a bad thing either.

It's a sort of pale powder blue, which is fine so long as we acknowledge it's not the traditional blue of our colours really.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ktvillan on August 05, 2020, 06:53:58 PM
The new strip is fine, colours look there or thereabouts (© Brucey) although I agree the blue is still a bit too pale.   I don't think the colours have been quite right since we dropped Nike or they dropped us, but the last few have been closer than the Makron fiascos.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: WilliamStanding on August 05, 2020, 07:22:55 PM
I like it. Colours are correct - just need it without the sponsor then very happy.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: OzVilla on August 06, 2020, 07:55:58 AM
I think the colours are spot on and it has the ultimate prerequisite of any Villa kit - Claret body, blue sleeves, white shorts, blue socks. Job done.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 06, 2020, 11:46:42 AM
Looks like the aged 5 full kit has the same size shirt as the 6 year old youth kit but is cheaper. Figure that out...
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: darren woolley on August 06, 2020, 02:07:29 PM
I like the new kit.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 06, 2020, 02:14:25 PM
When are the 2nd / 3rd kits coming out?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 06, 2020, 02:42:31 PM
Just ordered the pro version.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 06, 2020, 02:49:57 PM
Just ordered the pro version.

Anyone care to tap in the open goal here? Perhaps Hen could put his crayons down for the equaliser?
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on August 06, 2020, 03:03:15 PM
I was in the shop on Monday and was surprised there was no mention of the new shirt anywhere. I thought there might be at least a manakin showing it off, but no. Not a thing.

Just Kappa trying to get rid of whatís left, and not at what Iíd call sale prices either.

I did buy myself the 1980/81 home shirt again, love the material on that one. I gave my last one to a friend who left to live in Japan.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Axl Rose on August 06, 2020, 03:21:09 PM
I was in the shop on Monday and was surprised there was no mention of the new shirt anywhere. I thought there might be at least a manakin showing it off, but no. Not a thing.

Just Kappa trying to get rid of whatís left, and not at what Iíd call sale prices either.

I did buy myself the 1980/81 home shirt again, love the material on that one. I have my last one to a friend who left to live in Japan.

I still keep an eye out for a Japanese bloke in a Villa shirt wherever I go here, mate!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on August 06, 2020, 03:45:23 PM
I was in the shop on Monday and was surprised there was no mention of the new shirt anywhere. I thought there might be at least a manakin showing it off, but no. Not a thing.

Just Kappa trying to get rid of whatís left, and not at what Iíd call sale prices either.

I did buy myself the 1980/81 home shirt again, love the material on that one. I have my last one to a friend who left to live in Japan.

I still keep an eye out for a Japanese bloke in a Villa shirt wherever I go here, mate!

Youíd be unlucky to find another Japanese lad wearing an 80/81 Villa shirt thatís a bit too big for him!!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villabear on August 07, 2020, 10:34:14 AM
Apparently the new kit is available in the store tomorrow. Weird as I didnít think it was October yet.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Dave P on August 07, 2020, 10:39:35 AM
Apparently the new kit is available in the store tomorrow. Weird as I didnít think it was October yet.

And probably wont be available on Sunday until mid September.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: robbo1874 on August 07, 2020, 10:50:40 AM
Quality looks bad. The shirt looks bad. Yes it ticks the boxes, but never a classic.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 07, 2020, 10:52:55 AM
Quality looks bad. The shirt looks bad. Yes it ticks the boxes, but never a classic.
What are you basing your conclusion on that the quality looks bad?  It clearly doesn't look bad on the released photos so are you just assuming based on last year? 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 07, 2020, 10:57:00 AM
Quality looks bad. The shirt looks bad. Yes it ticks the boxes, but never a classic.
What are you basing your conclusion on that the quality looks bad?  It clearly doesn't look bad on the released photos so are you just assuming based on last year? 

I am.  All I know is that my kits were terribly made last year, and my mate who is a Leeds fan, his Kappa kit was just as bad.  I've got kits from 25 years ago that are in better nick than last year's.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: chrisw1 on August 07, 2020, 11:26:53 AM
Quality looks bad. The shirt looks bad. Yes it ticks the boxes, but never a classic.
What are you basing your conclusion on that the quality looks bad?  It clearly doesn't look bad on the released photos so are you just assuming based on last year? 

I am.  All I know is that my kits were terribly made last year, and my mate who is a Leeds fan, his Kappa kit was just as bad.  I've got kits from 25 years ago that are in better nick than last year's.
I know last years were awful.  But I've seen a couple of people say it looks like cheap tat and it clearly doesn't from the photos - material looks good, badge is rubber, stitching looks nice.  It may well be crap with their track record, but people saying it looks bad quality seem to be jumping to conclusions.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 08, 2020, 11:19:58 AM
The club have sent out a useful kit guide with the physical shirt measurements.

Normal XL is 58cm across the chest going up and down in 3cm increments.
Pro XL is 53cm across the chest going up and down in 2cm increments.
Fits appear regular as waists are about the same size (1cm smaller) as the chests.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on August 08, 2020, 12:50:36 PM
Mine arrived this morning.
Have to say, looks like Kappa have taken on board some of the criticism of last year's kit. The claret has a touch more blue in the mix than last year, so it's less brick red and more what I would call 'proper' claret. And the blue sleeves are a touch stronger in colour Ė still a little light for me, but a better combination of our classic colours.
The rubber badge is decent Ė the lion is a strong pressing of the new woodcut version, which has picked up all the detail. I'd criticise the framing of the AVFC, which is too tight to the white frame. And the font is still Chelsea Studio, which is an absolute crime against humanity.
The large seems a touch more generous, particularly in the neck. Can actually get my head through it without needing a team of assistants on standby.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: charleeco7 on August 08, 2020, 02:53:04 PM
My lads arrived today. The material seems better quality when comparing it with last years and itís also bigger sizing wise (kids 8)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: purpletrousers on August 08, 2020, 03:03:23 PM
Mine arrived this morning.
Have to say, looks like Kappa have taken on board some of the criticism of last year's kit. The claret has a touch more blue in the mix than last year, so it's less brick red and more what I would call 'proper' claret. And the blue sleeves are a touch stronger in colour Ė still a little light for me, but a better combination of our classic colours.
The rubber badge is decent Ė the lion is a strong pressing of the new woodcut version, which has picked up all the detail. I'd criticise the framing of the AVFC, which is too tight to the white frame. And the font is still Chelsea Studio, which is an absolute crime against humanity.
The large seems a touch more generous, particularly in the neck. Can actually get my head through it without needing a team of assistants on standby.

Chelsea Studio? Still Stempel Garamond Bold I think.

I forget the Prepared isnít on the badge anymore, what was the ?microsoft font that sent shudders? I was just curious if it had been removed everywhere:

Quick google brought up this Dec 2019 20mins YouTube stadium tour, largely gone from my quick scrolling but saw it is still in the players lounge, but more interestingly some artefacts in there (at 11mims 40) I donít remember seeing before like a tankard given by Bayern in 82.
https://youtu.be/4YHoghgxkTg

Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: exigo on August 08, 2020, 07:29:49 PM
Mine arrived this morning.
Have to say, looks like Kappa have taken on board some of the criticism of last year's kit. The claret has a touch more blue in the mix than last year, so it's less brick red and more what I would call 'proper' claret. And the blue sleeves are a touch stronger in colour Ė still a little light for me, but a better combination of our classic colours.
The rubber badge is decent Ė the lion is a strong pressing of the new woodcut version, which has picked up all the detail. I'd criticise the framing of the AVFC, which is too tight to the white frame. And the font is still Chelsea Studio, which is an absolute crime against humanity.
The large seems a touch more generous, particularly in the neck. Can actually get my head through it without needing a team of assistants on standby.

Chelsea Studio? Still Stempel Garamond Bold I think.

I forget the Prepared isnít on the badge anymore, what was the ?microsoft font that sent shudders? I was just curious if it had been removed everywhere:

Quick google brought up this Dec 2019 20mins YouTube stadium tour, largely gone from my quick scrolling but saw it is still in the players lounge, but more interestingly some artefacts in there (at 11mims 40) I donít remember seeing before like a tankard given by Bayern in 82.
https://youtu.be/4YHoghgxkTg



Gah, you're quite right. The Chelsea Studio font was the prepared. Yep, Stempel Garamond is the AVFC.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 11, 2020, 05:24:53 PM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on August 11, 2020, 05:54:12 PM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.

I thought that about the badge but wondered if the blue coming across the top was making it seem a little higher than it was. Now youíve seen it in the flesh, it does seem strange positioning.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 11, 2020, 05:57:44 PM
Yes, it's just really, really high up!  Odd.  Other than that, I think it's the best kit for years, second only to the white Luke away kit. 
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: WilliamStanding on August 11, 2020, 06:28:00 PM
Arrived today - absolutely no complaints.

Top job Kappa and AVFC
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: dicedlam on August 11, 2020, 06:30:32 PM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.

I thought that about the badge but wondered if the blue coming across the top was making it seem a little higher than it was. Now youíve seen it in the flesh, it does seem strange positioning.

There might have been a clause in the Sponsor's contract that the logo had to be in a certain place and of a certain size.
Are there any other clubs with the same sponsor? might be worth looking to see where their badge is placed.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: CT on August 11, 2020, 06:34:37 PM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.

I thought that about the badge but wondered if the blue coming across the top was making it seem a little higher than it was. Now youíve seen it in the flesh, it does seem strange positioning.

There might have been a clause in the Sponsor's contract that the logo had to be in a certain place and of a certain size.
Are there any other clubs with the same sponsor? might be worth looking to see where their badge is placed.

Everton have the same as us, I think!
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: AsTallAsLions on August 11, 2020, 07:30:03 PM
Everything is technically in the same place as last season but the new sponsor logo is just one horizontal line compared to the massive vertical size of the W88 logo which gave everything a different perspective. Not only that but the Cazoo logo is by nature a lot thinner than the 'W' from the top line of last year's sponsor

All that being said -- the badge is still much too high, as it is on all Kappa kits, and doesn't look right at all, regardless of sponsor placement IMO. Part of me wants to say that's just the style now, but Arsenal can have the best of both worlds with a stylish contemporary kit that still looks wearable around the house or out shopping, so I'm not sure why we can't have that.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on August 11, 2020, 07:53:38 PM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.

I thought that about the badge but wondered if the blue coming across the top was making it seem a little higher than it was. Now youíve seen it in the flesh, it does seem strange positioning.

There might have been a clause in the Sponsor's contract that the logo had to be in a certain place and of a certain size.
Are there any other clubs with the same sponsor? might be worth looking to see where their badge is placed.

Everton have the same as us, I think!
Yes they do - it looks equally naff on their kit too
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Edvard Remberg on August 11, 2020, 08:57:09 PM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.
How's the sizing compared to non-kappa sizes? I use XL normally (Nike,  Luke etc)
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 11, 2020, 09:08:36 PM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.
How's the sizing compared to non-kappa sizes? I use XL normally (Nike,  Luke etc)

The club have sent out a useful kit guide with the physical shirt measurements.

Normal XL is 58cm across the chest going up and down in 3cm increments.
Pro XL is 53cm across the chest going up and down in 2cm increments.
Fits appear regular as waists are about the same size (1cm smaller) as the chests.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 12, 2020, 12:32:09 AM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.

I thought that about the badge but wondered if the blue coming across the top was making it seem a little higher than it was. Now youíve seen it in the flesh, it does seem strange positioning.

There might have been a clause in the Sponsor's contract that the logo had to be in a certain place and of a certain size.
Are there any other clubs with the same sponsor? might be worth looking to see where their badge is placed.

Logo size and placement on a shirt is strictly controlled by Premier League reguations, so that's not a reason for the odd badge placement.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 12, 2020, 12:33:06 AM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.
How's the sizing compared to non-kappa sizes? I use XL normally (Nike,  Luke etc)

I'd say with Kappa you'd normally want a size up compared to every other manufacturer we've ever had.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: ColinMac on August 12, 2020, 07:57:52 AM
My new kit arrived today.  It's a really nice kit to be fair, and feels decent quality as well, although I'll reserve judgement on that until it's washed after I wear it tonight for 5 aside. The only slight criticism I'd have of it is design-wise that the badge is far too high up towards the shoulder.  It looks really odd positioned like that.
How's the sizing compared to non-kappa sizes? I use XL normally (Nike,  Luke etc)

For the Luke kits I had an L, for the Kappa kits an XL, if you had XL for Like then for the Kappa I would go XXL
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Risso on August 12, 2020, 09:20:17 AM
Wore mine last night for five aside.  One of the other lads is a Burnley fan, and he was wearing his home top.  Went for a pint in the pub afterwards, and some old boy asked us if we were West Ham fans.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Ian J on August 12, 2020, 09:33:05 AM
Itís definitely far too high up and also on the training top I wear out running.
Title: Re: Kappa new Principal Partner
Post by: Drummond on August 12, 2020, 09:33:43 AM
Wore mine last night for five aside.  One of the other lads is a Burnley fan, and he was wearing his home top.  Went for a pint in the pub afterwards, and some old boy asked us if we were West Ham fans.

Hahaha! Twat obviously.
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