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Title: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: somec on May 15, 2019, 01:28:33 PM
Last night got me thinking.

How many penalty shoot outs have we participated in?

What's out overall record?

The ones I remember are,

v Tranmere 1994
v Inter 1994
v Bolton 2000
v WBA last night

We won all of them.

The only one I remember us losing was against Wimbledon in the FA Cup (1993?) with Richardson missing one.

What were the other ones?
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on May 15, 2019, 01:32:04 PM
Juventus, Peace Cup, 2009

And Sunderland? League Cup?
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Damo70 on May 15, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Last night got me thinking.

How many penalty shoot outs have we participated in?

What's out overall record?

The ones I remember are,

v Tranmere 1994
v Inter 1994
v Bolton 2000
v WBA last night

We won all of them.

The only one I remember us losing was against Wimbledon in the FA Cup (1993?) with Richardson missing one.

What were the other ones?


The penalties at Wimbledon were taken in front of us away fans. I think Vinnie Jones scored the winning penalty for them and gave it the big 'un.  Richardson definitely missed one that night. Did Teale miss one for us as well  that night?
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: danno on May 15, 2019, 02:48:27 PM
We lost one against West Ham, which I only remember because Southgate missed his penalty. But it didn't matter as the tie was replayed because West Ham had fielded an ineligible player.


Edit: League cup Quarter final 1999/2000 season.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: fbriai on May 15, 2019, 02:49:29 PM
There was also that League Cup match that we lost at West Ham, but then won when it had to be replayed because they had fielded an ineligible player. They won the first match on penalties, didn't they?
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: olaftab on May 15, 2019, 03:01:12 PM
When it comes to pens Wir sind besser als die Deutschen.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Flamingo Lane on May 15, 2019, 08:48:44 PM
The first I saw, and possibly our first, was in an early round of the League Cup against Colchester United when the tie was over two legs.  We won the first leg away 2-0 but then lost the home leg by the same score.  We won the shoot out.  I don't remember the year, must have been late 70s or early 80s.

EDIT: This was in the 1979/80 season, and we won the penalty shoot out 9-8.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: pooligan on May 15, 2019, 10:10:42 PM
I was standing near the top of the Holmsdale Road end where the away fans use to stand when Richardson missed his pen against Wimbledon .It was such a bad pen the ball nearly hit me
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Damo70 on May 16, 2019, 10:32:50 AM
The first I saw, and possibly our first, was in an early round of the League Cup against Colchester United when the tie was over two legs.  We won the first leg away 2-0 but then lost the home leg by the same score.  We won the shoot out.  I don't remember the year, must have been late 70s or early 80s.

EDIT: This was in the 1979/80 season, and we won the penalty shoot out 9-8.


I think Mike Walker (father of Spurs and England keeper Ian Walker) and former Norwich and Everton boss was in goal for Colchester that night.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: somec on May 16, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
Thanks for the replies!

I'd forgotten about a few mentioned here.

The only penalty shoot outs I was actually there for were Inter and Bolton.

I have much better memories of the Inter game.

The Bolton game was arguably a bigger game but the final that followed it has soured any positive memories from that cup run.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: lovejoy on May 16, 2019, 01:30:56 PM
I was at the Tranmere one, I left the Holte End before they were taken and sat on a wooden fence in the car park behind with another guy.

We saw people gushing out when it looked like we'd lose then running in again.

Once vctory was confirmed we jumped in the air high fiving.

I never got his name ......
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Pete3206 on May 16, 2019, 05:33:45 PM
There was also that League Cup match that we lost at West Ham, but then won when it had to be replayed because they had fielded an ineligible player. They won the first match on penalties, didn't they?

Yes. Southgate missed our last penalty.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Pete3206 on May 16, 2019, 05:35:18 PM
Has everyone forgotten Sunderland and the infamous match thread?

Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: MorrisNielson on May 16, 2019, 09:09:13 PM
Shootouts:
League Cup - Sep 5 1979 Colchester won 9-8
Villa pens - Evans, Deehan, Mortimer, Shelton, Shaw, Gidman, Cowans, Swain, Morley
Colchester pens - Rowles, Allinson, Leslie, Wignall, Hodge, Gough, Foley, Lee, Walker (miss)
*Pen order unknown, Colchester took first*

FA Cup - Feb 3 1993 Wimbledon lost 5-6
Fashanu 0-1, Parker 1-1, Ardley 1-2, Saunders 2-2, McAllister 2-3, Staunton 3-3, Jones 3-4, Cox miss 3-4, Holdsworth miss 3-4, Yorke 4-4, Dobbs 4-5, Teale 5-5, Joseph 5-6, Richardson miss 5-6

League Cup - Feb 27 1994 Tranmere won 5-4
Saunders 1-0, Irons 1-1, Teale 2-1, Thomas 2-2, Fenton 3-2, Brannan saved 3-2, Atkinson 4-2, Higgins 4-3, Ehiogu miss 4-3, Aldridge 4-4, Richardson miss 4-4, O'Brien saved 4-4, Daley 5-4, Nolan 5-4

UEFA Cup - Sep 29 1994 Internazionale won 4-3
Bia 0-1, Parker 1-1, Bergkamp 1-2, Staunton 2-2, Seno 2-3, Townsend 3-3, Fontolan miss 3-3, Whittingham saved 3-3, Sosa miss 3-3, King 4-3

The Emmanuel Omoyinmi appreciation League Cup Game - Dec 15 1999 West Ham lost 4-5
Lampard 0-1, Stone 1-1, Lomas 1-2, Dublin 2-2, Di Canio 2-3, Barry 3-3, Sinclair saved 3-3, Wright miss 3-3, Ruddick 3-4, Ehiogu 4-4, Keller 4-5, Southgate saved 4-5

FA Cup SF - Apr 2 2000 Bolton won 4-1
Stone 1-0, Holdsworth 1-1, Hendrie 2-1, Johnston saved 2-1, Barry 3-1, Johansen saved 3-1, Dublin 4-1

League Cup - Oct 27 2009 Sunderland won3-1
Reid saved 0-0, Carew 1-0, Cana saved 1-0, Collins 2-0, Malbranque 2-1, Agbonlahor saved 2-1, Henderson saved 2-1, A Young 3-1

Play-Off SF - May14 2019 West Brom 4-3
Holgate saved 0-0, Hourihane 1-0, Hegazi saved 1-0, Jedinak 2-0, Adarabioyo 2-1, Grealish 3-1, Gibbs 3-2, Adomah miss 3-2, Morrison 3-3, Abraham 4-3
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: MorrisNielson on May 16, 2019, 09:11:58 PM
Some preseason/friendly shootouts:
Jul 24 2012 Portland Timbers 2-2*Won 5-4 on penalties
Rincon 0-1, Bannan 1-1, Jean-Baptiste 1-2, Lichaj 2-2, Songo'o 2-3, Gardner 3-3, Renken 3-4, N'Zogbia 4-4, Dike saved 4-4, Carruthers 5-4

Guadiana Cup - Jul 31 2010 Feyenoord 3-1*Drew on 4-4 penalties
Martins-Indi 0-1, Carew 1-1, Smolov 1-2, Bannan 2-2, van Haaren miss 2-2, Sidwell 3-2, Cabral 3-3, Shorey 4-3, de Vrijj 4-4, Lichaj saved 4-4

Peace Cup - Aug 2 2009 Juventus 0-0*Won 4-3 on penalties
Bannan 1-0, Iaquinta saved 1-0, Sidwell miss 1-0, Trezeguet 1-1, Lowry 2-1, Amauri 2-2, A Young 3-2, Melo 3-3, Herd saved 3-3, Del Piero saved 3-3, Cuellar 4-3, Legrottaglie missed 4-3

The Dublin Tournament - Aug 9 2003 Leeds United 2-2* Won 4-2 on penalties.
Harte miss 0-0, Staunton 1-0, McMaster 1-1, Hitzlsperger 2-1, Mills 2-2, Allback 3-2, McPhail saved 3-2, Samuel 4-2

Gotham Cup - Jul 23 1999 Ajax 2-2* Won 3-2 on penalties
Villa pens - Southgate (miss), Stone, Barry (miss), Draper, Wright

XXXVI Trofeo Concepcion Arenal - Aug 5 1994 Atletico Madrid 0-0* Won 3-1 on penalties
Van Rocha 0-1, Saunders 1-1, Vizcaíno miss 1-1, Staunton miss 1-1, Pirri saved 1-1, Parker 2-1, Kosecki saved 2-1, King 3-1

Bass Charity Vase - Jul 30 1986 Burton Albion 2-2* Lost 4-5 on penalties
3-3 after first 5 pens (Kerr missed at 3-3). Sudden death pens - Kamara 3-4, Elliott 4-4, Kersley 4-5, Keown saved 4-5

Testimonial for Kevan Broadhurst - May 5 1986 Birmingham City 3-3*Lost 4-5 on penalties
Pen takers unknown.

Trofeo Ciudad de Zaragoza - Aug 18 1983 FC America 2-2*Lost 3-4 on Penalties
Villa pens - Shaw, Evans, McMahon, Curbishley (miss), Rideout (miss)

Trofeo Ciudad de Zaragoza - Aug 19 1983 Polytechnica Timisoara 1-1*Won 4-2 on Penalties
Villa pens - Evans, McMahon, Ormsby, Mortimer.

Len Weston Challenge Cup - Mar 19 1973 Hereford United 2-2*Won 4-3 on Penalties
N Rioch 1-0, Johnstone 1-1, Betts 2-1, Griffiths 2-2, Hamilton missed 2-2, Naylor missed 2-2, McMahon 3-2, Travener 3-3, Graydon 4-3, McLaughlin missed 4-3.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 17, 2019, 12:25:41 AM
I was in the Holte for that Colchester penalty shout out in 1979. I reckon Mike Walkers penalty went further than Chris Waddle’s in Italia 90. It was like a goal kick and must have gone 2|3 of the way up the Holte
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 22, 2019, 11:08:15 PM

Len Weston Challenge Cup - Mar 19 1973 Hereford United 2-2*Won 4-3 on Penalties
N Rioch 1-0, Johnstone 1-1, Betts 2-1, Griffiths 2-2, Hamilton missed 2-2, Naylor missed 2-2, McMahon 3-2, Travener 3-3, Graydon 4-3, McLaughlin missed 4-3.

I'm pretty sure I was at this. I've been to Edgar Street just the once and it was a friendly. I can remember some sort of trophy being presented but cannot recall the shootout.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Damo70 on May 23, 2019, 09:46:25 PM

Len Weston Challenge Cup - Mar 19 1973 Hereford United 2-2*Won 4-3 on Penalties
N Rioch 1-0, Johnstone 1-1, Betts 2-1, Griffiths 2-2, Hamilton missed 2-2, Naylor missed 2-2, McMahon 3-2, Travener 3-3, Graydon 4-3, McLaughlin missed 4-3.

I'm pretty sure I was at this. I've been to Edgar Street just the once and it was a friendly. I can remember some sort of trophy being presented but cannot recall the shootout.


I was there when we won the Simon Weston Challenge Cup. We were on fire that day.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: Axl Rose on May 25, 2019, 12:49:35 PM

Len Weston Challenge Cup - Mar 19 1973 Hereford United 2-2*Won 4-3 on Penalties
N Rioch 1-0, Johnstone 1-1, Betts 2-1, Griffiths 2-2, Hamilton missed 2-2, Naylor missed 2-2, McMahon 3-2, Travener 3-3, Graydon 4-3, McLaughlin missed 4-3.

I'm pretty sure I was at this. I've been to Edgar Street just the once and it was a friendly. I can remember some sort of trophy being presented but cannot recall the shootout.


I was there when we won the Simon Weston Challenge Cup. We were on fire that day.

Haha. Oh dear, mate. That's tickled me.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: cdbullyweefan on June 14, 2019, 11:00:28 AM
Good research mate. I've just added goalkeepers who made at least one save...

Shootouts:
League Cup - Sep 5 1979 Colchester won 9-8
Villa pens - Evans, Deehan, Mortimer, Shelton, Shaw, Gidman, Cowans, Swain, Morley
Colchester pens - Rowles, Allinson, Leslie, Wignall, Hodge, Gough, Foley, Lee, Walker (miss)
*Pen order unknown, Colchester took first*

FA Cup - Feb 3 1993 Wimbledon lost 5-6
Fashanu 0-1, Parker 1-1, Ardley 1-2, Saunders 2-2, McAllister 2-3, Staunton 3-3, Jones 3-4, Cox miss 3-4, Holdsworth miss 3-4, Yorke 4-4, Dobbs 4-5, Teale 5-5, Joseph 5-6, Richardson miss 5-6

League Cup - Feb 27 1994 Tranmere won 5-4
Saunders 1-0, Irons 1-1, Teale 2-1, Thomas 2-2, Fenton 3-2, Brannan saved 3-2, Atkinson 4-2, Higgins 4-3, Ehiogu miss 4-3, Aldridge 4-4, Richardson miss 4-4, O'Brien saved 4-4, Daley 5-4, Nolan 5-4
Villa keeper: Bosnich

UEFA Cup - Sep 29 1994 Internazionale won 4-3
Bia 0-1, Parker 1-1, Bergkamp 1-2, Staunton 2-2, Seno 2-3, Townsend 3-3, Fontolan miss 3-3, Whittingham saved 3-3, Sosa miss 3-3, King 4-3
Inter keeper: Pagliuca

The Emmanuel Omoyinmi appreciation League Cup Game - Dec 15 1999 West Ham lost 4-5
Lampard 0-1, Stone 1-1, Lomas 1-2, Dublin 2-2, Di Canio 2-3, Barry 3-3, Sinclair saved 3-3, Wright miss 3-3, Ruddick 3-4, Ehiogu 4-4, Keller 4-5, Southgate saved 4-5
West Ham keeper: Hislop
Villa keeper: James

FA Cup SF - Apr 2 2000 Bolton won 4-1
Stone 1-0, Holdsworth 1-1, Hendrie 2-1, Johnston saved 2-1, Barry 3-1, Johansen saved 3-1, Dublin 4-1
Villa keeper: James

League Cup - Oct 27 2009 Sunderland won3-1
Reid saved 0-0, Carew 1-0, Cana saved 1-0, Collins 2-0, Malbranque 2-1, Agbonlahor saved 2-1, Henderson saved 2-1, A Young 3-1
Sunderland keeper: Gordon
Villa keeper: Guzan

Play-Off SF - May14 2019 West Brom 4-3
Holgate saved 0-0, Hourihane 1-0, Hegazi saved 1-0, Jedinak 2-0, Adarabioyo 2-1, Grealish 3-1, Gibbs 3-2, Adomah miss 3-2, Morrison 3-3, Abraham 4-3
Villa keeper: Steer
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: SoccerHQ on June 15, 2019, 08:07:21 PM
I watched the Bolton semi final one on YT not too long ago, was fairly sure someone missed for us. Will give it another watch now to make sure.
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 15, 2019, 08:33:48 PM
I watched the Bolton semi final one on YT not too long ago, was fairly sure someone missed for us. Will give it another watch now to make sure.

All scored, you must be thinking of a Man Utd shootout.


(https://i.imgur.com/ekQpV59.gif?noredirect)
Title: Re: Villa penalty shoot outs
Post by: West Derby Villan on June 16, 2019, 12:17:00 AM
I watched the Bolton semi final one on YT not too long ago, was fairly sure someone missed for us. Will give it another watch now to make sure.

All scored, you must be thinking of a Man Utd shootout.


(https://i.imgur.com/ekQpV59.gif?noredirect)

Quite a versatile Gif?