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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on May 11, 2019, 02:31:03 PM
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The world is currently such a lovely place.
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Thank God and great that Gayle is thick as pig shit
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We’ll take it. We knocked on the door without really looking like getting through. But thank fuck for Conor Hourihane and Jack’s contribution in both goals. HT only and without Gayle we have a massive chance now.
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Mince for 60 minutes and the subs came on and we looked miles better than them. 2-1 to take to the secong leg and them without Gayle. I'd have bitten your arm off for that this morning.
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Fucking hard work. But great to turn it around, Conor added a lot of quality. McGinn probably had his worst game for us, hopefully out of his system.
Gayle being sent off is huge.
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Made it hard for ourselves but on the end a great result all considered. Gayle being sent off is massive.
McGinn, Mings, Grealish struggled at times and I expect us to play better on Tuesday.
Oh and Fuck the Albion.
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just needed a win and that gayle red is like another goal to us lol
well done Conor changed the game
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The world is currently such a lovely place.
Wouldn't say lovely. But better than it was 30mins ago.
Tie is far from over though.
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What a comeback. I couldn't see us scoring today after that 1st half tbh, but a brilliant result in the end. Well done boys.
UTV & FTA!
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El Gahzi my MOTM.
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Aching for a draw after an hour, superb result in the circumstances. Nowhere near over though.
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It ay fair.
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I thought Mings was also not his normal self.
Taylor with the ball awful.
It was like watching Pulis Albion.
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Aching for a draw after an hour, superb result in the circumstances. Nowhere near over though.
Quite. Hopefully Gayle's rank stupidity will give us the edge on Tuesday evening.
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Well that was a huge 15 minutes.
Can't say I was that impressed with us second half. Was petering out to a 0-1 which would've been a bit of a disaster. Thought Dean was way too slow making the changes.
All changed on the Hourihane goal which was lovely strike.
Gayle being sent off was icing on the cake. He is a niggly bugger but thought he was superb leading the line for them, Rodriguez was hardly seen second half.
We'll score there. Tough ask for them to score two just to get extra time without Gayle imo. One foot in the final just like last year.
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A few players under par and then to give them a goal, we made incredibly hard work of it. But, excellent substitution, great goals, great pressure and ultimately a great win. Now they've lost Gayle for the second leg too, how much a blow will that be to them.
Well done Villa!
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'Ave that you negative stripey tossers!
They'll have to cross the halfway in the second leg now, so in theory it should free us up to play some better football.
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taylor and albert do need fucking off thou
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Good stuff - can relax now whilst waiting for the Baby_Bridge to arrive hopefully before Tuesday.
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It ay fair.
Aye. But if ya are you ay: and if ya ay yer cor.
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Is it ridiculous to be just slightly miffed we didn’t add a 3rd at the end when they were a man down and going to shit? Probably.
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We’ll score at their place - they’ll have to come out and without Gayle they will struggle. Expect hoofball so I would have Jedi on the bench. Great result simply great.
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taylor and albert do need fucking off thou
Thought Taylor was good, defended well and got forward when he could.
Adomah hardly did anything, can see Green starting on Tuesday.
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Such a strange game. The most ineffective I have seen many of best plAyers for some time. McGinn and Grealish really struggled. El ghazi looked our only threat. We looked leggy and devoid of ideas
To win was huge as they have to come out and play now
Smith’s ideas looked devoid today we must be able to adapt and have a plan B
Gayle getting sent off is huge
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Is it ridiculous to be just slightly miffed we didn’t add a 3rd at the end when they were a man down and going to shit? Probably.
Given that we stank Villa Park out for two-thirds of the game, I'd say it was a bit ridiculous yes. It would have been ace though.
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Franksy practically crying on air at Gayle getting sent off, ah bless.
If you were really a neutral broadcaster at this game you wouldn't show as much emotion as he is about that.
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Grealish was the difference. Never stopped, never gives up. Kept dragging the side forward exactly as a captain should.
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They played 5-4-1 and when we got into their 3rd it became 9 men defending the box so it was hard work to pick holes. The problem with defending like that is that you give people time to shoot from 20-25 yards and once we had Hourihane on that was suicide. They were then still trying to work out whether to carry on or press higher when we got around the outside and won the pen. From there we could've easily had another because we were creating loads of half chances in the last 15-20 mins.
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Franksy practically crying on air at Gayle getting sent off, ah bless.
If you were really a neutral broadcaster at this game you wouldn't show as much emotion as he is about that.
Who does that Twat actually support? Is it just ABV?
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So good to put those cynical fuckers to the sword. Massive chance next Tues.
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Such a strange game. The most ineffective I have seen many of best plAyers for some time. McGinn and Grealish really struggled. El ghazi looked our only threat. We looked leggy and devoid of ideas
To win was huge as they have to come out and play now
Smith’s ideas looked devoid today we must be able to adapt and have a plan B
Gayle getting sent off is huge
Today for 75 minutes reminded me of the play off final, just playing our own way without any desire to change and expecting the opposition to fall away.
Glad it worked out today but IF we get through hopefully this would be a bit of learning curve to DS in acting quicker in a final.
These next few games is probably going to define our next 5 years so we need everyone at top of their game.
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Franksy practically crying on air at Gayle getting sent off, ah bless.
If you were really a neutral broadcaster at this game you wouldn't show as much emotion as he is about that.
He's a gigantic BELL, so it's not especially surprising. The Villa-hating tw*t. ::)
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Agree Paul e, that defensive mindset is difficult to change.
But they were tiring and the pressure was beginning to tell.
I doubt they will play much differently on Tuesday.
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Franksy practically crying on air at Gayle getting sent off, ah bless.
If you were really a neutral broadcaster at this game you wouldn't show as much emotion as he is about that.
Who does that Twat actually support? Is it just ABV?
Guy I know from going to watch Walsall says in his youth he won a young commentator competition (Rob Hawthorne off Sky was other winner) so he went to Pebble Mill to commentate on a match and Franks was his mentor (must've been early 90s).
He said he was a SHA fan in those days although seems now he's ABV just for the sake of it and get more calls coming in.
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I just wanted a win today. I thought it would be two close games so I didn't really expect anything better than a one goal lead going into the second leg. The fact we demoralised them to an extent by turning it around was a bonus.
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Baggies played precious little football today, just defended in depth and tried to catch us on the break when either one of our moves broke down or by hoofing it long and chasing after it; and if we looked like doing something dangerous then a foul was their response.
Jack and Tammy getting clattered in the opening minutes showed their intentions and the foul count 3-14 and bookings 0-4, plus the red were a perfect summary of how the game went.
Although we struggled to break them down, we stayed patient and the subs came on to good effect.
The second leg should be interesting - they'll have to be positive which should give us more space around the box.
Just need everyone to be fit and ready and for Deano to have something up his sleeve tactically.
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Listening to Franksy on WM now for a laugh.
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Such a strange game. The most ineffective I have seen many of best plAyers for some time. McGinn and Grealish really struggled. El ghazi looked our only threat. We looked leggy and devoid of ideas
To win was huge as they have to come out and play now
Smith’s ideas looked devoid today we must be able to adapt and have a plan B
Gayle getting sent off is huge
Today for 75 minutes reminded me of the play off final, just playing our own way without any desire to change and expecting the opposition to fall away.
Glad it worked out today but IF we get through hopefully this would be a bit of learning curve to DS in acting quicker in a final.
These next few games is probably going to define our next 5 years so we need everyone at top of their game.
Wow! I will take that.
I said to my Mrs at 75 mins I would take a 1 0 defeat because I could see them spawning another from a set piece & I thought there is no way we can be as bad in the 2nd leg. The Gayle sending off is massive.
I did have a nice little bet on us to win at HT at 4/1. Happy Days!
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Is it ridiculous to be just slightly miffed we didn’t add a 3rd at the end when they were a man down and going to shit? Probably.
Given that we stank Villa Park out for two-thirds of the game, I'd say it was a bit ridiculous yes. It would have been ace though.
Possession 69% to 31%
Shots 21 to 5
Shots on target 6 to 2
Yeah we really stank the place out......WTF....FFS!!!
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Franksy practically crying on air at Gayle getting sent off, ah bless.
If you were really a neutral broadcaster at this game you wouldn't show as much emotion as he is about that.
Who does that Twat actually support? Is it just ABV?
Guy I know from going to watch Walsall says in his youth he won a young commentator competition (Rob Hawthorne off Sky was other winner) so he went to Pebble Mill to commentate on a match and Franks was his mentor (must've been early 90s).
He said he was a SHA fan in those days although seems now he's ABV just for the sake of it and get more calls coming in.
Only a nose could be that anti-Villa all of the time though.
Where did he grow up - any ideas?
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Nah losing today would've been a disaster, really wouldn't have seen us going through if that had happened. WBA sort of team who can score a couple with just 30-40% possession.
Going there with a lead AND their main source of goals not available to play is absolutely f***ing brilliant outcome considering how it was going.
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We need to be positive and ram it down their necks in the 2nd LEg
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Possession 69% to 31%
Shots 21 to 5
Shots on target 6 to 2
Yeah we really stank the place out......WTF....FFS!!!
I think that's a good example of stats not telling the full story. From those you'd think we mullered them from the kick off, which we didn't.
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It probably does bode well that we were nowhere near our best, but still dominated the ball and territory.
Gayle being banned is potentially massive. He was their best player by a distance today
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Is it ridiculous to be just slightly miffed we didn’t add a 3rd at the end when they were a man down and going to shit? Probably.
Given that we stank Villa Park out for two-thirds of the game, I'd say it was a bit ridiculous yes. It would have been ace though.
Possession 69% to 31%
Shots 21 to 5
Shots on target 6 to 2
Yeah we really stank the place out......WTF....FFS!!!
We played much better v Norwich. Could've easily scored 3 or 4.
Today looked liked one of those slow death home games. The ones we had on target before the goal was just grass cutter shots that trickled into Johnstone's hands.
What hurt us was conceding first and the manner we did. I thought we were good first 20 minutes and then that goal deflated us for rest of half.
Double change should've been made much earlier.
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And isn’t their 2nd string striker Robson-Kanu who got himself sent off last week. It ay fair is it.
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We’d have lost that under Bruce. Smith realised that Hourihane would be more effective given how the Baggies set up and changed it (maybe could have done it earlier, but it still paid off).
Had a bad feeling about this one, so glad we’ve come through it.... and the Gayle sending off is the cherry on top! 👌🏼
2 more wins and we’re home! 🙏🏼 UTV!
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Possession 69% to 31%
Shots 21 to 5
Shots on target 6 to 2
Yeah we really stank the place out......WTF....FFS!!!
I think that's a good example of stats not telling the full story. From those you'd think we mullered them from the kick off, which we didn't.
Yeah that’s a reflection of the fact they had a game plan to sit deep after the goal. And it looked like it was going to work until that bit of magic from grealish/Hourihane.
A lot of Leeds games have had stats like that when they’ve lost.
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Happy with that in the end, must be favourites now, but still a long way to go. Can't believe SJM will be so ineffective next time, cracker from Conor would start him in 2nd leg, also Green in for Albert. A word for Jed Steer brilliant save in the first half.
UP THE VILLA
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And isn’t their 2nd string striker Robson-Kanu who got himself sent off last week. It ay fair is it.
Rodriguez pulling his hamstring five minutes into second leg please football gods.
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Albion fan on WM wants to appeal the second yellow card for Gayle,.
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Battered them second half but they, generally, defended well. I'd have taken a draw with twenty minutes left. Great win. Need to attack in the second leg and try to finish them off.
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Albion fan on WM wants to appeal the second yellow card for Gayle,.
Was just sat chuckling at that - haven’t listened to WM after a game for years but this is making me laugh.
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Is it ridiculous to be just slightly miffed we didn’t add a 3rd at the end when they were a man down and going to shit? Probably.
Given that we stank Villa Park out for two-thirds of the game, I'd say it was a bit ridiculous yes. It would have been ace though.
Possession 69% to 31%
Shots 21 to 5
Shots on target 6 to 2
Yeah we really stank the place out......WTF....FFS!!!
Our first half possession was 70%. We must have eased off a bit in the second half for the ninety minute possession to be only 69%. ;)
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It was quite unbelievably stupid from Gayle in the second half. Booked for time wasting, should have got a second yellow for a body check a few minutes later, and then with the final whistle looming he gets himself sent off for a pointless lunge at the goalkeeper, thereby significantly reducing his side's chances in the second leg. Footballers never cease to amaze me at how brain dead they can be.
Hilarious!
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Eddie on WM now. Albion "favourites" penalty "iffy" etc.
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The problem Gayle had was that he had just got away with one, so the ref had no option.
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I don't think I've ever seen a player booked for time-wasting with TWO HOURS still to play in a fixture. When that happened, I don't think I've ever been keener to see someone get a second booking.
The fact they came to park the bus says it all really. Gifting them a goal actually put them on the back foot, making them even MORE defensive, and they were out on their feet at the end. I was actually confident we'd score as they tired, but the manner was awesome.
They've got to come out in the second leg and win a game, they're going to leave gaps and there isn't a side in this league better at exploiting space than us at the moment. Short of them getting a couple of quick goals very quickly and going defensive, I can see us scoring at least two at their place.
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Thought we were good value for the win on the second half's performance. From the off we moved the ball much more quickly and even with the eventual breakthrough being a strike from outside the box, looked far more dangerous than in the first when they were very happy and we were sluggish.
Gayle red card is as good as going 3-1 up in my view into the second leg - they reminded me of a Bruce team after going 1-0 up, playing 5-4-1 for the whole game - the spaces that they will leave in the second leg is perfect for us as they've been very dodgy at the back all year.
Grealish's movement in the second half and the introduction of Conor was the key - Jack stayed much higher up the pitch and didn't just stay in the inside left channel that he'd been in for most of the first half. The assist for Conor was a great example of that. Smith deserves credit for that slight tactical adjustment.
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They came to dig in and hit us on the break and it worked to an extent. Poor goal to give away.
Resting our big 4 didn’t seem to help as none of them seemed at it today!
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The problem Gayle had was that he had just got away with one, so the ref had no option.
And I forgot to mention his Rivaldo antics after a nothing tussle with [can't remember who].
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It was quite unbelievably stupid from Gayle in the second half. Booked for time wasting, should have got a second yellow for a body check a few minutes later, and then with the final whistle looming he gets himself sent off for a pointless lunge at the goalkeeper, thereby significantly reducing his side's chances in the second leg. Footballers never cease to amaze me at how brain dead they can be.
Hilarious!
Especially when he greeted his first yellow with an 'I don't care' smirk.
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The Gayle 2nd booking was as much a totting up booking as anything else. And you can’t appeal yellows which technically that was.
The Eddie on WM you lot bang on about sounds a complete dipstick.
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Eddie on WM now. Albion "favourites" penalty "iffy" etc.
He is a complete Twat!
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I thought Gayle's second was harsh, the ball is there to be won, goalies are ugly for a reason. If it had happened to Tammy we would have thought we were unfairly done. Abraham almost gave away a penalty for that bone-headed attempt to win a header in our box. Karma for the hand of Rod, I guess.
I only saw the second half but thought we were a little lucky, there seemed little fluidity in our play until Hitz II's howitzer and I'm not sure we would have got the winner from open play. If we manage the second leg OK, I just worry that we'll play like this against Leeds at Wembley and won't get away with it again. I wish Mings would stop heading clearances without looking, they keep going straight back to the opposition.
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I thought Gayle's second was harsh, the ball is there to be played, goalies are ugly for a reason. If it had happened to Tammy we would have thought we were unfairly done. Abraham almost gave away a penalty for that bone-headed attempt to win a header in our box. Karma for the hand of Rod, I guess.
I thought we were lucky, there seemed little fluidity in our play until Hitz II's howitzer and I'm not sure we would have got the winner from open play. If we manage the second leg OK, I just worry that we'll play like this against Leeds at Wembley and won't get away with it again.
I disagree, when you're on a yellow and have got away with one that's a pointless challenge to make, there was no chance of him getting the ball. There wasn't a great deal of contact but it was late and, as has been said, purely on totting up he was in trouble.
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Radio WM will be incredulous. How dare we beat one of their teams
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I did say that if we scored they'd shit themselves and so they did and went to pot. We were the better team, despite underperforming to our full capabilities. Very proud of the team and their heart and spirit and we have one foot in the final, Bitters have a hard second leg having to come at us without their best player.
Congratulations Villa boys.
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We need to be positive and ram it down their necks in the 2nd LEg
I think we need a number of changes to be honest. A lot went in our favour today, Dawson and Johansen going off injured, Gayle's red card. Thought we looked very vulnerable at set pieces and they arguably should have had a penalty.
Fair play to Hourihane, has done little wrong to be dropped and changed the game when he came on. Brilliant strike and so important.
Both our centre halves were poor, Taylor tried hard but his limitations on the ball were painful. We need Hause to come back in and also give us more presence defending set pieces. AA was awful and Green will have to come in for him. Thought McGinn was anonymous aswell, playing about 10 yards too high up the pitch.
Jack came up with huge moments but our best three today were Elmo, Steer and El Ghazi.
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Radio WM will be incredulous. How dare we beat one of their teams
They are talking through the Albion injury list.
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That Tyrone Mears is utterly useless aswell.
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Just seen Tammy's after match interview. He said.....We are Aston Villa. I think he loves it here.
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They had 1 tactic in attack, hoof it up to Gayle and hope for best. Cut out the stupid mistakes at the back and we should be fine on Tues.
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Their formation stifled our midfield. The only space before we scored was behind their wing backs and it was mostly just El Ghazi and Taylor trying to exploit that.
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Delighted with the result, disappointied with the performance.
We were very nervous for 70 minutes and the bitters spoiling tactics and time wasting made it difficult for us to get going.
Still, the bitters got their deserts and we looked much more our usual selves for the last 20.
A point about the ref. That ****** made sure he was the star of the show with his ambling round the pitch. He had more of an effect on the game that anyone, and after 2 mins when he pulled play back after Jack had been fouled, but didn’t book their player, just set the tone for the rest of the game.
So we are just about in the driving seat, but it’s going to be a fecking nervy Tuesday night.
Oh, and FUCK THE ALBION.
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Just seen Tammy's after match interview. He said.....We are Aston Villa. I think he loves it here.
I just posted the Twitter link on the Tammy thread. And when it was suggested it could be his last game he certainly didn’t commit to that at all. Yes he loves it with us.
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Halftime oranges all round.
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That Tyrone Mears is utterly useless aswell.
He is 35 years old and barely played.
I did say at start of the season they had lots of old players in their squad (like us last season) so looks like at the crucial time that's hurting them.
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Hopefully this was our poor performance in the play offs out of the way.
Last year we were comfortable both legs v Boro and then played exactly the same way v Fulham and were found out.
Would be unforgivable if we get through and then get nulified again.
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Weather should be fine next Tuesday. No sign of a Gayle in Sandwell, anyway.
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That Tyrone Mears is utterly useless aswell.
He is 35 years old and barely played.
I did say at start of the season they had lots of old players in their squad (like us last season) so looks like at the crucial time that's hurting them.
He's 36.
Did seem like they ran out of steam towards the end. Which is nice.
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caller on WM said wasn't penalty , they should have had one and Gayle shouldn't have been sent off..love the unbiased opinions..
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I saw a tesco bags supporting acquaintance of mine who was sitting in the home section on the way out. He still thinks they've got a 60/40 chance of going through even without Gayle... Talk about delusional.
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Just seen Tammy's after match interview. He said.....We are Aston Villa. I think he loves it here.
I saw that as well and he also said about hoping its not his last game at VP. I think if we go up and can work out a deal with Chelsea (with their transfer problems) he would love to stay.
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My nerves are not coping too well with this, at my age and years of following the Villa, you'd think I would be used to this by now. Well done Villa.
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caller on WM said wasn't penalty , they should have had one and Gayle shouldn't have been sent off..love the unbiased opinions..
No that was Jimmy Shan their caretaker coach / under 9s manager.
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caller on WM said wasn't penalty , they should have had one and Gayle shouldn't have been sent off..love the unbiased opinions..
No that was Jimmy Shan their caretaker coach / under 9s manager.
No it was a caller.. Shan said he had no complaints about the penalty.the follow up caller made teh comments
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to be honest i didn't think it was a penalty.. but the ref did and that's all that matters..
i wonder how many on here would have accepted them get the same penalty decision
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I thought the penalty was clear as day and proven by Gibbs’ reaction to it all. He knew he caught Jack. I actually thought Gayle was a little unlucky with the sending off. But as my grandma used to say
“fuck the Albion”
Good old grandma
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I thought we were unlucky not to get a penalty earlier for the handball. A very good win considering so many of our better players had poor games by their exacting standards - Mings was poor, particularly the quality of his passing as was Axel, and Taylor reverted to type for much of the game. Great win, made even more satisfying by that ghastly Hobbit being shown a red card. Time wasting tosser.
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caller on WM said wasn't penalty , they should have had one and Gayle shouldn't have been sent off..love the unbiased opinions..
No that was Jimmy Shan their caretaker coach / under 9s manager.
Shan sounded devastated that they're going to have to come out to play on Tuesday. "I'll have to tweak one or two things". No fucking shit, mate. Tbf, shouldn't knock him, that back nine of theirs almost managed to hold out. The fucking dullarse stripey ******.
Cracking game, though. It had everything.
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A point about the ref. That c*** made sure he was the star of the show with his ambling round the pitch. He had more of an effect on the game that anyone, and after 2 mins when he pulled play back after Jack had been fouled, but didn’t book their player, just set the tone for the rest of the game.
As he gave us a penalty, refused them what looked to me to be a penalty, booked Gayle for time wasting and later sent him off, I'd say the referee was ok today.
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nothing less than they deserved for time wasting almost from the kick off.
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Gayle went in with both feet off the ground, had to be a yellow.
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Everyone can we get some more posts on here quick. We are in danger of having less posts than the Match thread over on SHA.
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Wow what a great afternoon at VP - terrific atmosphere and deafening noise!
For all the changes in manager Albion are still a Tiny Penis side playing Tiny Penis football. Two banks of 5 when we had the ball, constant fouls, long throws and time wasting. They had a game plan to either grab a goal or take 0-0 back to their place, and unfortunately we gifted them the goal. Thought Deano was slow to make the changes - I'd have brought Hourihane on for Whelan at half time but the what a difference when the change was made. They were sitting deeper and deeper and you just sensed the goal coming - and what a strike by Hourihane! Looked a clear penalty from I was sitting, and beautifully put away by Tammy. Great scenes.
So half time advantage us, and they have no Gayle for the second leg. Mustn't get complacent, but maybe, just maybe...
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A few moments of quality from Hourahane, Grealish and Tammy and we win the game. They won't be able to sit on it in the second leg.
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Possession 69% to 31%
Shots 21 to 5
Shots on target 6 to 2
Yeah we really stank the place out......WTF....FFS!!!
I think that's a good example of stats not telling the full story. From those you'd think we mullered them from the kick off, which we didn't.
Yeah that’s a reflection of the fact they had a game plan to sit deep after the goal. And it looked like it was going to work until that bit of magic from grealish/Hourihane.
A lot of Leeds games have had stats like that when they’ve lost.
What I meant by 'stank the place out' was we had no answer to their tactics for most of the game.
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'Ave that you negative stripey tossers!
They'll have to cross the halfway in the second leg now, so in theory it should free us up to play some better football.
Reminded me of Pulis last year.
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Starting to get concerned that again we only turned up second half. Saying that, to play way below our potential against a team that probably played better than they have in a long time and still win, says a lot about this squad.
Struggling to think of a MOTM as all would only get a 5 or 6. We will be sharper and put in better performances in the coming games.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-w-brom/407076
I haven’t got bored of watching Conor’s goal just yet. Fantastic vision from Jack in the buildup and a wonderful shot.
Ours was definitely a pen and I thought they should have had one too but when you look at the match report it wasn’t given. Tough shite Stripey Filth!
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Wow what a great afternoon at VP - terrific atmosphere and deafening noise!
Watching on a good stream, I thought it was quiet and flat for long periods.
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Everyone can we get some more posts on here quick. We are in danger of having less posts than the Match thread over on SHA.
Ok. I also thought we got a bit lucky with the sending off and the Tammy penalty incident but considering their cheating delaying tactics all game, they got what they deserved. Come on Villa. I can watch the cricket and tonight's game a little easier now.
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Go back to the day Smith took over. If someone had told me then we would be going into the second leg of the play off's a goal up ,I would have told them to keep off the sauce.. Fuckin brilliant few months and it ain't over yet...UTV
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It was a penalty we didn’t play well but we have done half of the job roll on Tuesday
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Is that the first win against a top 5 side this season? A good time to get it if so.
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Is that the first win against a top 5 side this season? A good time to get it if so.
Well we’ve beaten ourselves plenty of times, but first against a top 4 side!
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Gayle went in with both feet off the ground, had to be a yellow.
Quite right. If he was going in to nick the ball, he would have gone in one-footed. As it was, he knew he couldn't it and so went in two-footed to try and intimidate Steer. There wasn't a great deal of contact but there was no attempt to get the ball. Add this to the block on Grealish that should have been a booking and he left the ref. no choice.
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Until we scored we were playing like Boro played in the first leg against us last year. Albion didn’t produce anything to suggest we should fear the second leg. They literally started time wasting in the first minute.
Hadn’t quite appreciated how far out Conor was for the goal until I saw the replay.
Penalty looked a nailed on one from the Lower Holte.
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Some selection headaches for Deano ahead of Tuesday. Conor was great when he came on, I think Albert's experience and work rate will earn him a start. I don't normally like changing a winning team but mindful that we don't need to win on Tuesday, I would be tempted to swap Taylor for Hause. Today was Taylor's worst game for some time and they also targeted him by playing high balls over to Philips.
Great win that I couldn't see coming on 70 minutes and naturally, FTA.
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Singing this right now
(Well, I am if this works)
Marvellous! Lyrics n all 😃
UTV!
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It was quite unbelievably stupid from Gayle in the second half. Booked for time wasting, should have got a second yellow for a body check a few minutes later, and then with the final whistle looming he gets himself sent off for a pointless lunge at the goalkeeper, thereby significantly reducing his side's chances in the second leg. Footballers never cease to amaze me at how brain dead they can be.
Hilarious!
Yes - utterly fucking stupid on his part.
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Any chance of Gayle's red being over-turned?
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Any chance of Gayle's red being over-turned?
No. It was a second yellow.
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No.
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Good stuff - can relax now whilst waiting for the Baby_Bridge to arrive hopefully before Tuesday.
Great Rob. Hope all goes well.
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It can't be, you can't appeal Yellow cards. The only way they can be overturned is if the fouled player is charged with diving and that doesn't apply in either case.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-w-brom/407076
I haven’t got bored of watching Conor’s goal just yet. Fantastic vision from Jack in the buildup and a wonderful shot.
Ours was definitely a pen and I thought they should have had one too but when you look at the match report it wasn’t given. Tough shite Stripey Filth!
The time Jack had in the box was obscene, they daredn't go near him. ;D
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https://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-w-brom/407076
I haven’t got bored of watching Conor’s goal just yet. Fantastic vision from Jack in the buildup and a wonderful shot.
Ours was definitely a pen and I thought they should have had one too but when you look at the match report it wasn’t given. Tough shite Stripey Filth!
Thanks for this - yeah they should have one too to be fair.
Gayle wasn't even looking at the ball as it came in the dirty bugger
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Any chance of Gayle's red being over-turned?
Not a chance.
They are going to have to rejig things quite a bit with injuries too. Plus Phillips looked miles off the pace, only back from injury ain't he?
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Some selection headaches for Deano ahead of Tuesday. Conor was great when he came on, I think Albert's experience and work rate will earn him a start. I don't normally like changing a winning team but mindful that we don't need to win on Tuesday, I would be tempted to swap Taylor for Hause. Today was Taylor's worst game for some time and they also targeted him by playing high balls over to Philips.
Great win that I couldn't see coming on 70 minutes and naturally, FTA.
Taylor was my man of the match
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Good stuff - can relax now whilst waiting for the Baby_Bridge to arrive hopefully before Tuesday.
Great Rob. Hope all goes well.
Thanks chap
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Awesome. And he's a butt-ugly ****** too
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Excellent win.
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I think the penalty chance for them was probably lucky not to be given but what went in our favour was that Tammy jumped fairly early and their guy stayed on the ground so it could be taken that Tammy put hands out to start going over the top of him.
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Some selection headaches for Deano ahead of Tuesday. Conor was great when he came on, I think Albert's experience and work rate will earn him a start. I don't normally like changing a winning team but mindful that we don't need to win on Tuesday, I would be tempted to swap Taylor for Hause. Today was Taylor's worst game for some time and they also targeted him by playing high balls over to Philips.
Great win that I couldn't see coming on 70 minutes and naturally, FTA.
Taylor was my man of the match
Im guessing that is ironic?
Taylor was massively the weak link both offensively and defensively
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Taylor doesn't back himself much, does he? I thought him and El Ghazi were very good down that side, and they repeatedly worked Taylor into some brilliant positions, but never delivered a telling blow. Frustrating.
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It was quite unbelievably stupid from Gayle in the second half. Booked for time wasting, should have got a second yellow for a body check a few minutes later, and then with the final whistle looming he gets himself sent off for a pointless lunge at the goalkeeper, thereby significantly reducing his side's chances in the second leg. Footballers never cease to amaze me at how brain dead they can be.
Hilarious!
Commentator was saying they have him down as a special coach for the future.
The gift that will carry on giving then.
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Play, Steer, Hutton, Elmo, Chester, jedinak, Mings, Axel, Hause, Taylor, Whelan, and Tammy.
2 banks of 5 and Park the fucking bus.
Joking.
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The Villa Thread on SHA is magical reading............the bitterness and hatred is something to behold. Without us they would literally be nothing. The Albion fans aren't far behind them now having said that.
https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2677918,page=13 (https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2677918,page=13)
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Weather should be fine next Tuesday. No sign of a Gayle in Sandwell, anyway.
And hopefully Conor Hurricane will be flowing well for us.
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Great result in a cracking Villa atmosphere. Mings and McGinn both looked out of sorts, but hopefully will play better Tuesday. Certainly the bitters will have to open up and that should suit John. Conor's strike was a thing of beauty. His last ditch interception 5 or 10 mins before his goal was also game changing. Gayle proved throughout the game what a tw-t he is and his red card served to endorse this. We've still got a job to do to make the final, but I've got faith that Dean and the boys will give their all to get there. UTV!
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The Villa Thread on SHA is magical reading............the bitterness and hatred is something to behold. Without us they would literally be nothing. The Albion fans aren't far behind them now having said that.
https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2677918,page=13 (https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2677918,page=13)
To be fair the Dogheads are getting on the bandwagon - don't understand never used to hear a beep out of them prior to last year
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Thought Albion set their stall out early on with the constant time wasting and defensive approach. We gifted them a goal and they then seemed quite content to sit on that and try and hit us on the break. We had plenty of the ball, but the quality in the final third wasn't really there and we struggled to break them down.
It was getting to the point where I'd have settled for a draw, but I thought the changes lifted the tempo a bit and we produced a few moments of quality to win us the game.
Far from over, but we are in a good position. They will have to try and come at us on Tuesday and I think that will suit us better.
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Not only do we have the enjoyment of winning, we have the added enjoyment of loads of fans of loads other clubs being gutted as well. It's ace.
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caller on WM said wasn't penalty , they should have had one and Gayle shouldn't have been sent off..love the unbiased opinions..
No that was Jimmy Shan their caretaker coach / under 9s manager.
No it was a caller.. Shan said he had no complaints about the penalty.the follow up caller made teh comments
Yes you’re right. I was skipping back and forth as kept losing the connection.
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I think the penalty chance for them was probably lucky not to be given but what went in our favour was that Tammy jumped fairly early and their guy stayed on the ground so it could be taken that Tammy put hands out to start going over the top of him.
He was also looking solely at the ball as soon as it left his foot on his first attempted clearance. If he was looking at the man I think it would have been given.
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I don't get this " it's far from over" opinion. It's over. This was their big chance to get away with a draw. They have reverted to horrific Pulis methods under Jimmy Shan including those laughable long throws. Parked their bus and nearly got away with it but didn't. On Tuesday they are going to have to open up as they need to win by 2 clear. No chance of that.
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I just hope it is third time lucky in 8 days on the team without their best players not fluking the result in the 2nd leg. :-\
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I don't get this " it's far from over" opinion. It's over. This was their big chance to get away with a draw. They have reverted to horrific Pulis methods under Jimmy Shan including those laughable long throws. Parked their bus and nearly got away with it but didn't. On Tuesday they are going to have to open up as they need to win by 2 clear. No chance of that.
They could win by 1 and then win on penalties. It is far from over, better teams than us have fucked up against shitter sides than the bitters. I don't want there to be any complacency.
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Just seen the Gayle sending off. It’s a funny one as you’d want your striker attacking the ball like that so a collision with the keeper is inevitable.
But then if it had been a 50/50 in the centre circle and he was that late to the ball it would be a straight red.
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I think the penalty chance for them was probably lucky not to be given but what went in our favour was that Tammy jumped fairly early and their guy stayed on the ground so it could be taken that Tammy put hands out to start going over the top of him.
He was also looking solely at the ball as soon as it left his foot on his first attempted clearance. If he was looking at the man I think it would have been given.
Yep, that as well. I freely admit I'd be pissed if it wasn't given for us but I can see how the ref decided it wasn't a foul. Ours was much clearer, some people saw a slow-mo from the reverse angle where there wasn't much contact and have convinced themselves it was soft but if you dive in like that and don't get the ball you just don't get away with it, was just a really poor challenge (same as Gayle for his 2nd yellow).
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Good stuff - can relax now whilst waiting for the Baby_Bridge to arrive hopefully before Tuesday.
Great Rob. Hope all goes well.
Thanks chap
if he's a boy will he be Jack or Aston?
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Hourihane in for Whelan who made a dreadful error. Hause in for Taylor who was also poor today.
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I thought they'd sacked Pulis?
Fouling, making a thrown your only means of hitting the box, time wasting, diving, play acting, sitting with 11 men behind the ball. When Hourihane scores, there are at least 10 Albion players deeper than the penalty spot.
What an absolute shower of shite the Albion were at trying to play football.
Gayle is a disgraceful little cheat and should have been sent off before he was for a blatant yellow card challenge on Grealish.
Felt we lacked the tempo in the final 3rd. It's not easy when you're playing a plucky small club intent on only defending, but we didn't help ourselves.
When it was clear that Albion would sit deep and lump aimless long balls down the channel, to nobody in particular, Hourihane should have come on as jes much more of a threat.
Bit of nerves between Taylor and Steer, a moment of madness from Whelan, but by and large we dominated possession, territory and chances. Just nothing hugely clear cut.
The equaliser was more than deserved though and the winner felt inevitable. Glad Gayle is banned, as he is a danger. It should also mean they need to open up more with 433 on Tuesday.
First goal is key. If we can get that, then we will win the tie.
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Good stuff - can relax now whilst waiting for the Baby_Bridge to arrive hopefully before Tuesday.
Great Rob. Hope all goes well.
Thanks chap
if he's a boy will he be Jack or Aston?
Well unofficial names at the very least
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I think Whelan will start as Connor is weak defensively.
We need to not concede first if possible.
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Taylor doesn't back himself much, does he? I thought him and El Ghazi were very good down that side, and they repeatedly worked Taylor into some brilliant positions, but never delivered a telling blow. Frustrating.
Yep happened a few times today, he'd try to play a ball inside (that just wasn't on) rather than just have a shot. Fair enough he's never scored a goal but sometimes if nothing is on you may as well have a go.
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I think Whelan will start as Connor is weak defensively.
We need to not concede first if possible.
Disagree, Whelan was poor today. Hourihane gave Jack in particular more licence to get forward. Whelan isn't a goal threat, Connor is. Whelan fucked up royally for Gayle's goal.
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I think Whelan will start as Connor is weak defensively.
We need to not concede first if possible.
Disagree, Whelan was poor today. Hourihane gave Jack in particular more licence to get forward. Whelan isn't a goal threat, Connor is. Whelan fucked up royally for Gayle's goal.
I guess Dean Smith will have the final say. :o
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Some selection headaches for Deano ahead of Tuesday. Conor was great when he came on, I think Albert's experience and work rate will earn him a start. I don't normally like changing a winning team but mindful that we don't need to win on Tuesday, I would be tempted to swap Taylor for Hause. Today was Taylor's worst game for some time and they also targeted him by playing high balls over to Philips.
Great win that I couldn't see coming on 70 minutes and naturally, FTA.
Taylor was my man of the match
Im guessing that is ironic?
Taylor was massively the weak link both offensively and defensively
Your username is a giveaway
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Mings' distribution was shocking today, and McGinn was like a man who'd just been told his best mate was shagging his wife.
We surely cannot play that badly on Tuesday?!
Elmo, Ghazi and Taylor played okay; Green did alright when he came on. Hourihane continues his recent form, looking like the player we thought we'd bought and Abraham did what he could. Credit to him for the pen after that terrible one at Rotherham.
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We were still by far and away the better side, even if we weren't at full throttle.
The Albion were one of the worst sides to play at Villa Park. Fucking awful.
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We were still by far and away the better side, even if we weren't at full throttle.
The Albion were one of the worst sides to play at Villa Park. Fucking awful.
Worse than the rags. And as for their 'penalty', get the fuck outta here you fucking desperate tramps.
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The Pulis comparisons are apt. There were a couple of times they looked like they might get something from a corner.
End of the day though they came for a 0-0 got gifted a goal and still lost, the stripey tw*ts.
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We were still by far and away the better side, even if we weren't at full throttle.
The Albion were one of the worst sides to play at Villa Park. Fucking awful.
Worse than the rags. And as for their 'penalty', get the fuck outta here you fucking desperate tramps.
I can’t believe any Albion fan has got the gall to moan about refereeing decisions after the game in December
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Great day out. Fairly poor first half, and most of the team were surprisingly sloppy. Weight of expectations perhaps? Whelan had one of his worst games for ages, which I would put down to a long, hard season catching up with him. I hope Smith plays Hause at left back for the away leg, because Taylor is really, really, really crap. Mings wasn't at his imperious best today, but Axel played some nice balls out. Hourihane coming on really breathed life into the team, and from that moment there was only going to be one winner. Superb atmosphere at the start until they scored, and then for most of the second half.
And I was sat a few seats away from David Bradley, aka Walder Frey from Game of Thrones, who I now know is a huge Villa fan. He was joining in with the "Fuck the Albion" chants with more gusto than I imagine would be good for a man of his years.
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Some selection headaches for Deano ahead of Tuesday. Conor was great when he came on, I think Albert's experience and work rate will earn him a start. I don't normally like changing a winning team but mindful that we don't need to win on Tuesday, I would be tempted to swap Taylor for Hause. Today was Taylor's worst game for some time and they also targeted him by playing high balls over to Philips.
Great win that I couldn't see coming on 70 minutes and naturally, FTA.
Taylor was my man of the match
Im guessing that is ironic?
Taylor was massively the weak link both offensively and defensively
Your username is a giveaway
I always presumed it referred to the magnificent Ian Taylor.
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Wow what a great afternoon at VP - terrific atmosphere and deafening noise!
Watching on a good stream, I thought it was quiet and flat for long periods.
Agreed and I was there. Their goal quietend us down for the rest of the first half
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And I was sat a few seats away from David Bradley, aka Walder Frey from Game of Thrones, who I now know is a huge Villa fan. He was joining in with the "Fuck the Albion" chants with more gusto than I imagine would be good for a man of his years.
But I thought that was common knowledge and everyone who has ever visited this site knew that? ::)
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I think the better team found a way to win. It wasn't easy to do so but they did. Once the first went in, I wanted another two which would've been brilliant.
I think Villa will run this lot off their legs in the second leg and will have to soak up less pressure than their opposition, it'll be a bit of a grind at times but as long as they don't lose their shape drastically, they'll conjure up a decent goal and nick another and onto Wembley. Not cocky but that's what I'd predict from here, tactically they approached the first leg a little too predictably, just can't see WBA offering too much more. Any sign that it opens up, open slather, they will dead set shit themselves.
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I wouldn't want to be behind Dwight Gayle in the half time queues for a beer on Tuesday night. You'd never get served!
The most negative team I've seen this season, maybe bar QPR. Good to see Tony Pulis back in football again.
We weren't at the races at times today, but if we get firing on Tuesday, they've got no chance. Get the first goal and kill the game.
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Albion came to play for the 0-0. After we'd gifted them the goal, it became the 1-0.
They were absolutely without ambition beyond the long ball over the top for Gayle to latch on to. They were disgracefully short on attacking intent, I thought.
More than that, though, I am struggling to recall the last time i saw such a prolonged example of shit-housery as they provided today. Time wasting from the start, players throwing themselves to the floor for long periods, dirty bastards who clattered into Jack for the first time after less than 60 seconds of the game, it was exactly like watching a Pulis side.
By far the biggest factor for the second leg (other than us winning the first, of course) will be the absence of Gayle. He does look threatening, he's definitely a top flight quality player, and he's not going to be there.
That'll be the end of his loan period at Albion now.
I found myself wondering if he was just ensuring he could fuck off on holiday earlier than might otherwise be the case when he went through Steer.
Oh and shout out to their fans, who I thought were pathetic, amongst the worst away fans we've seen at Villa Park this season, barely a peep out of them.
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Im convinced Dr.Tony Xia was driving up and down outside the Trinity Road stand about an hour before kick off, which I found quite bizarre.
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And I was sat a few seats away from David Bradley, aka Walder Frey from Game of Thrones, who I now know is a huge Villa fan. He was joining in with the "Fuck the Albion" chants with more gusto than I imagine would be good for a man of his years.
But I thought that was common knowledge and everyone who has ever visited this site knew that? ::)
I had no idea I'm afraid. Can't say that I've seen his name mentioned if I'm honest.
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And I was sat a few seats away from David Bradley, aka Walder Frey from Game of Thrones, who I now know is a huge Villa fan. He was joining in with the "Fuck the Albion" chants with more gusto than I imagine would be good for a man of his years.
From the bloke amazed people don't know about the Royal family! :P :-*
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Albion came to play for the 0-0. After we'd gifted them the goal, it became the 1-0.
They were absolutely without ambition beyond the long ball over the top for Gayle to latch on to. They were disgracefully short on attacking intent, I thought.
More than that, though, I am struggling to recall the last time i saw such a prolonged example of shit-housery as they provided today. Time wasting from the start, players throwing themselves to the floor for long periods, dirty bastards who clattered into Jack for the first time after less than 60 seconds of the game, it was exactly like watching a Pulis side.
By far the biggest factor for the second leg (other than us winning the first, of course) will be the absence of Gayle. He does look threatening, he's definitely a top flight quality player, and he's not going to be there.
That'll be the end of his loan period at Albion now.
I found myself wondering if he was just ensuring he could fuck off on holiday earlier than might otherwise be the case when he went through Steer.
Oh and shout out to their fans, who I thought were pathetic, amongst the worst away fans we've seen at Villa Park this season, barely a peep out of them.
Never mind all that. How long did it take you to get served at half time?
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Albion came to play for the 0-0. After we'd gifted them the goal, it became the 1-0.
They were absolutely without ambition beyond the long ball over the top for Gayle to latch on to. They were disgracefully short on attacking intent, I thought.
More than that, though, I am struggling to recall the last time i saw such a prolonged example of shit-housery as they provided today. Time wasting from the start, players throwing themselves to the floor for long periods, dirty bastards who clattered into Jack for the first time after less than 60 seconds of the game, it was exactly like watching a Pulis side.
By far the biggest factor for the second leg (other than us winning the first, of course) will be the absence of Gayle. He does look threatening, he's definitely a top flight quality player, and he's not going to be there.
That'll be the end of his loan period at Albion now.
I found myself wondering if he was just ensuring he could fuck off on holiday earlier than might otherwise be the case when he went through Steer.
Oh and shout out to their fans, who I thought were pathetic, amongst the worst away fans we've seen at Villa Park this season, barely a peep out of them.
Never mind all that. How long did it take you to get served at half time?
Half time? I'm still in the queue for a pre-match pint.
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Lucky that Conor wasn’t banned for the’’did he didn’t he’ punch.
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Fuck The Albion
That is all
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It was very nice of their fans to join in with the "Fuck the albion" chant, I thought. Something you just don't get enough of in "modern" football.
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Did my ears deceive me or did I hear the strains of KRO on about 55 minutes very briefly coming from the stripey throstle ******?
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I think we can be way too critical of our own sometimes.
After we gifted them a goal they sat back and "parked the bus", along with wasting time and fouling at every opportunity. That's hard to combat after a difficult season of, mostly, playing catch up. But each and every one of our players gave everything for the shirt today. Were there errors? Yes. But there was no shirking of responsibility, and I'm proud of what the team and manager achieved today.
Well done all. Let's finish the job on Tuesday.👍
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I've only seen the highlights posted on here. By the sound of it Albion must have hired Steve Bruce for a bit of playoff consulting work. Good. It's his specialism.
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I was glad to get the win, given that we weren't looking that likely to score despite having so much possession.
McGinn had an anonymous game but I hope it was a blip. With their formation of 3 centre backs we tended to play into their hands and poor crosses and wasted short corners didn't help. We needed to have a higher tempo and drive and run at them far more, as El Ghazi did.
Thank goodness for Conor and his left foot; he gets slated more often than not but he comes up with some great strikes and delivery.
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Well that was very enjoyable. Interesting to see their Manager has obviously taken notes from when Pulis was there, god they were dull. We stuck at it and fully deserved the win, Albion were out on there feet at the end after spending the afternoon chasing the ball, shame we couldn’t nick a third.
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A point about the ref. That c*** made sure he was the star of the show with his ambling round the pitch. He had more of an effect on the game that anyone, and after 2 mins when he pulled play back after Jack had been fouled, but didn’t book their player, just set the tone for the rest of the game.
As he gave us a penalty, refused them what looked to me to be a penalty, booked Gayle for time wasting and later sent him off, I'd say the referee was ok today.
Indeed I thought he was ok. Seems a bit harsh to call him that.
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I don't get this " it's far from over" opinion. It's over. This was their big chance to get away with a draw. They have reverted to horrific Pulis methods under Jimmy Shan including those laughable long throws. Parked their bus and nearly got away with it but didn't. On Tuesday they are going to have to open up as they need to win by 2 clear. No chance of that.
They could win by 1 and then win on penalties. It is far from over, better teams than us have fucked up against shitter sides than the bitters. I don't want there to be any complacency.
Agree 100%. We’re essentially a goal up at half-time and the second half is on their turf. It’s far from over and we’re goong to need to play well to get through.
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We were still by far and away the better side, even if we weren't at full throttle.
The Albion were one of the worst sides to play at Villa Park. Fucking awful.
Worse than the rags. And as for their 'penalty', get the fuck outta here you fucking desperate tramps.
The bitter twats are off their heads.
The referee cheated them.
We dived.
We paid the ref.
We've cheated FFP.
We're shite (despite being better than them in every way)
They beat Swansea in 1993, so they're going beat us.
I cant abide them.
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Can't see us not making the final now. We were better than them, they had their bit of luck and it wasn't enough.
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I can't believe how below par we were for an hour.
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Some selection headaches for Deano ahead of Tuesday. Conor was great when he came on, I think Albert's experience and work rate will earn him a start. I don't normally like changing a winning team but mindful that we don't need to win on Tuesday, I would be tempted to swap Taylor for Hause. Today was Taylor's worst game for some time and they also targeted him by playing high balls over to Philips.
Great win that I couldn't see coming on 70 minutes and naturally, FTA.
Taylor was my man of the match
I agree.
As for 'targeting him' they were playing high balls full stop.
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Amazed at the stick Taylor is getting, he was one of our better players.
Didn't think Tammy was great at all, just hope he was still feeling his way back in after the shoulder lay off. Adomah was completely anonymous so those two I'd be looking at before Taylor.
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taylor and albert do need fucking off thou
Thought Taylor was good, defended well and got forward when he could.
Adomah hardly did anything, can see Green starting on Tuesday.
I thought he kept giving the ball away in good positions
and yes AA was useless again . .
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Agree about Tammy he was worryingly poor. Mostly anonymous apart from the early effort and he judged that badly because he had time to control it.
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taylor and albert do need fucking off thou
Thought Taylor was good, defended well and got forward when he could.
Adomah hardly did anything, can see Green starting on Tuesday.
I thought he kept giving the ball away in good positions
and yes AA was useless again . .
Agreed, Taylor was poor and Albert did nothing, but he must have had a kick up the arse at half time as he started to take players & be more direct, 2nd half.
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Tammy, worryingly poor. Really? One of the last players I’m worrying about is a player who has a superb attitude and has scored 25+ times for us.
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The bitters can't even claim to play beautiful attacking football any more. Grim stuff.
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Tammy, worryingly poor. Really? One of the last players I’m worrying about is a player who has a superb attitude and has scored 25+ times for us.
He did his usual job but I hardly saw any movement or pushing the defenders around.
Gayle was superb at that first half creating space so huge boost for us he can't play on Tuesday.
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Worrying in the sense we lack goalscoring strikers if he can’t start scoring from open play again. His 25 goals are irrelevant for the next couple of games and he looks way off his early season form. Mind you so did McGinn.
He took his penalty very well mind.
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I thought Albion’s tactics were rubbish, thought they were better than that to be honest
I know negative tactics can be effective but they are still rubbish,
and I was just as critical when we played like that under Bruce (although I can’t remember even us going into time wasting mode with only 10 minutes are showing on the clock)
but it’s the reason I hated nearly every minute of watching football under him
I’m so glad we’ve left all that shit behind
a 5–5 defensive formation or a 5-4-1 when they went positive was always going to be difficult to break down
they came with no intention of playing any football, they know we are better than them, we would never go to their place in the same position and set up like that under Smith
we are a far better footballing side, it doesn’t guarantee anything but if the best team wins through it will be us
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It reminds me of Grabban going off the boil end of last season and was a non factor in the final, at least Tammy has an injury as a decent reason why.
Last season when you look back I thought Snodgrass played really poorly in the play off final and Albert had done his end of season disappearing act so really we only had Jack as in form player in that four and it obviously wasn't good enough to take out Fulham on the day.
At least this year El Ghazi is in good form so he's another player opposition need to stick two on.
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Tammy had no space to work in due to their back 3. He got more involved as the game progressed and we pushed them back to the edge of their box so he was able to start linking with Jack and co.
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I actually don’t blame them for their tactics today. If you’re away in the first leg and you’re gifted an early goal it doesn’t make much sense to keep pushing for a second.
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Gayle didn't create any space, he's just lightning quick and could take advantage of the distances we leave between our defensive 5. I thought they were a shadow of their side that beat us. A big, ugly, Pulis shaped shadow.
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I actually don’t blame them for their tactics today. If you’re away in the first leg and you’re gifted an early goal it doesn’t make much sense to keep pushing for a second.
Do you anticipate us parking the bus on Tuesday, then? It's shit, and it got them what it deserved.
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I really hope Dean plays Kortney Hause instead of Taylor on Tuesday. I thought he was really good against Norwich last week.
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I’ll catch up with the match thread later but for now...
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...and fuck the Albion! :D
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Oh and shout out to their fans, who I thought were pathetic, amongst the worst away fans we've seen at Villa Park this season, barely a peep out of them.
They really are an odd bunch of weirdos too. Fat, middle aged blokes jumping up and down, shouting boing boing is always bad enough. What was proper weird though was when they all sarcastically clapped and cheered the announcement of the attendance of nearly 41,000. Er, what?
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Surprised that the crowd was under 41,000 when supposedly a sell out??
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I wouldn't put it past them to shithouse a goal out of nothing on Tuesday, despite not seeing any proof today that they can. Villa need to be a damn sight more switched on than they were today, particularly on that first half showing. Hourihane changed the game - Whelan was decent in that ticking over way of his (despite the horrorshow for their goal) but Conor gets his head up, looks who's available or who might be and is so much more dynamic.
No, it's not the end. But it might be the end of the beginning.
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Good stuff - can relax now whilst waiting for the Baby_Bridge to arrive hopefully before Tuesday.
Great Rob. Hope all goes well.
Thanks chap
if he's a boy will he be Jack or Aston?
Well unofficial names at the very least
great, hope everything goes well for you all
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And a personal shout out to the atmosphere today. Unreal.
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I thought we was ok, controlled but not enough drive. A few players not quite firing, however we was far the better side. A huge amount of luck for their goal but also for the sending off which was harsh. Right and fair rresult, well done Villa.
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Surprised that the crowd was under 41,000 when supposedly a sell out??
600 empty seats in the away end.
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I haven’t seen or heard a post match interview with Deano yet.
Other than ‘yeah,no fuck the Albion’ has anyone heard what he had to say? I’d be interested to hear his thoughts on the first half.
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Where in the ground could you have fitted another 1000 spectators in today? Strange attendance announcement.
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I haven’t seen or heard a post match interview with Deano yet.
Other than ‘yeah,no fuck the Albion’ has anyone heard what he had to say? I’d be interested to hear his thoughts on the first half.
He said we weren’t at our best but found a way to win
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Where in the ground could you have fitted another 1000 spectators in today? Strange attendance announcement.
Not for the first time this season
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Where in the ground could you have fitted another 1000 spectators in today? Strange attendance announcement.
That could bit under the Big screen seems to be used as segregation nowadays so that's another couple of hundred seats not used.
Point was made WBA got 2k allocation from an away end that holds 2.8k so there's nearly a thousand empty seats. Don't understand them in home end as all tickets were apparently sold.
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I actually don’t blame them for their tactics today. If you’re away in the first leg and you’re gifted an early goal it doesn’t make much sense to keep pushing for a second.
Do you anticipate us parking the bus on Tuesday, then? It's shit, and it got them what it deserved.
No I don’t, and I wouldn’t want us to. But the moral outrage about it seems a bit silly (and petty seeing as we won anyway).
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I haven’t seen or heard a post match interview with Deano yet.
Other than ‘yeah,no fuck the Albion’ has anyone heard what he had to say? I’d be interested to hear his thoughts on the first half.
On our FB Page.
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It's about time one of them got sent off for being a dirty ******.
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Hadn’t seen the other angle. It’s a stupid challenge, if he’d got a first yellow for that nobody would be talking about it. His own stupid fault.
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Despite his bell endedness I thought he gave us problems all afternoon. So vital he misses Tuesday. However, he missed the league game at Villa as well for all the good it did us.
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Hadn’t seen the other angle. It’s a stupid challenge, if he’d got a first yellow for that nobody would be talking about it. His own stupid fault.
That is a straightforward yellow card.
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They showed character, Smith showed that he can change the game, it's good stuff and I'm (naturally) still predicting a heartbreaking defeat on penalties either at theirs or in the final, but I guess I'll enjoy this while I can!
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They showed character, Smith showed that he can change the game, it's good stuff and I'm (naturally) still predicting a heartbreaking defeat on penalties either at theirs or in the final, but I guess I'll enjoy this while I can!
Born in Birmingham?
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They showed character, Smith showed that he can change the game, it's good stuff and I'm (naturally) still predicting a heartbreaking defeat on penalties either at theirs or in the final, but I guess I'll enjoy this while I can!
Born in Birmingham?
Wasn't aware that there were geographical qualifications required.
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I actually don’t blame them for their tactics today. If you’re away in the first leg and you’re gifted an early goal it doesn’t make much sense to keep pushing for a second.
Do you anticipate us parking the bus on Tuesday, then? It's shit, and it got them what it deserved.
No I don’t, and I wouldn’t want us to. But the moral outrage about it seems a bit silly (and petty seeing as we won anyway).
I don't really get the moaning about parking the bus tactics. It's not pretty but it's a perfectly valid tactic and if sides aren't good enough to break it down then that's their problem. That said I wouldn't want to watch it season in, season out.
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Thought Smith got his tactics right today. Whelan was always going to start, bringing CH on after 70 minutes or so as the game opened up a bit. Personally think Hourihane needs the game to have opened up a little to be effective, whereas Whelan works better in the three when it’s more cagy.
Individual error gave them their goal, two decent bits of football by Grealish creating space for the equaliser and drawing the foul for the second won it for us. Two more wins this season and we can look forward to watching Jack play premiership football live rather than on Match of the Day
Defensively, thought Mings was off the pace as was Axel, thought Taylor looked good and don’t get the rubbishing of him on here. Links well with the wingers, is the pace to cover any counter attack from corners, admittedly lightweight sometimes and distribution can be poor. But he’s a pretty good championship left back imho, and I’m not sure Hause is still fully fit. It’s a big call to change your defence voluntarily in such an important game.
Finally, those short corners. Why? We strive to get the ball in the box from wide whenever we can, we score goals from corners and create problems. Nothing came from the first two short corners today, why’ve not drop one to the near post and one to the back post, get Grealish on the edge of the box, get the opposition worried about him. It’s a small point but frustrated me.
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I’ll catch up with the match thread later but for now...
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...and fuck the Albion! :D
Excellent, for my amusement a few filters to celebrate
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They showed character, Smith showed that he can change the game, it's good stuff and I'm (naturally) still predicting a heartbreaking defeat on penalties either at theirs or in the final, but I guess I'll enjoy this while I can!
Born in Birmingham?
Wasn't aware that there were geographical qualifications required.
Yes it is to gauge pessimism.
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I thought at the game it was an obvious second yellow, but have to admit not so sure now. I would hope a Villa player would be going for an inviting cross like that. We didn't play well. I have no gripes about their tactics, Pullis would be proud, but they were time wasting from the first minute and the ref should have clamped down earlier.
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Agree about the short corners simboy. They were doing my head in. It was clear after the first couple that they were just putting us back in positions where we were struggling to get past their defenders. Plus we lost the ball immediately from at least one. When we’re dangerous from set pieces it seems mad not to just whip it in.
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Is that the first win against a top 5 side this season? A good time to get it if so.
Well we’ve beaten ourselves plenty of times, but first against a top 4 side!
also the first time they've lost this season after taking the lead
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They are a big team and wonder if that was the reasoning but agree it wasn't working.
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Also the first short corner took them right off guard and was excellent with Jack and SJM
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I really don't get how so many people think the sending off was harsh, this is a crappy still from the video on here but you can see Gayle still on his feet with the ball pretty much in Steer's hands. He was never getting the ball and he'll have known he had no chance with loads of time to pull out of the challenge, by not doing so he clattered into the keeper. Clearly a yellow card and, as someone else said, if it was his first one no one would be commenting on it.
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Also the first short corner took them right off guard and was excellent with Jack and SJM
2nd, the first one was McGinn to Jack on the right and Gayle stole it from him.
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The shot corner tactic has paid some dividends this season, including that wonder goal from Jack, but you need to mix them up with orthodox corners to keep the defense on their toes. I suppose their 4-5-1 formation tipped the balance for D.S., and he hoped to draw some of their defenders out.
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I really don't get how so many people think the sending off was harsh, this is a crappy still from the video on here but you can see Gayle still on his feet with the ball pretty much in Steer's hands. He was never getting the ball and he'll have known he had no chance with loads of time to pull out of the challenge, by not doing so he clattered into the keeper. Clearly a yellow card and, as someone else said, if it was his first one no one would be commenting on it.
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It’s just bitter Baggie b*llocks. ‘It Ay Fair’ episode 583.
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If you mean the goal against Derby, Adrenachrome - Grealish was on the edge of the box as Whelan hit the corner long, allowing Grealish to hit it back toward the top corner. A different routine but not a short corner?
As I say it’s a minor point and I get the bit about them being a big side, although with Mings, AT and Tammy we are not exactly a small side. It just seemed to me that we generally conceded possession from them.
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Did my ears deceive me or did I hear the strains of KRO on about 55 minutes very briefly coming from the stripey throstle c***s?
Surely even They wouldn't Stoop THAT Low! Surely!!
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Good stuff - can relax now whilst waiting for the Baby_Bridge to arrive hopefully before Tuesday.
Great Rob. Hope all goes well.
Thanks chap
if he's a boy will he be Jack or Aston?
Well unofficial names at the very least
great, hope everything goes well for you all
Yeah Cheers - already got some little Villa outfits for him.
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Tammy, worryingly poor. Really? One of the last players I’m worrying about is a player who has a superb attitude and has scored 25+ times for us.
He did his usual job but I hardly saw any movement or pushing the defenders around.
Gayle was superb at that first half creating space so huge boost for us he can't play on Tuesday.
Two entirely different types of player. And Tammy isn't all about goals. He might not have been at his best but he's still someone you give a yard to in the box he'll make you pay. A lot of players weren't great today because Albion rolled in to pinch a draw or a spawny win. They will have to come out on Tuesday and that will create loads of room for the likes of Jack, SJM and Tammy to exploit. I wouldn't be shocked to see Kodjia and Tammy up front as Albert was ineffective today. I don't think for a second we're going there to park the bus. A Steve Bruce team this ain't.
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Did my ears deceive me or did I hear the strains of KRO on about 55 minutes very briefly coming from the stripey throstle c***s?
Surely even They wouldn't Stoop THAT Low! Surely!!
Might have been "The Lord's My Shepherd". They are not known for their musical prowess and often sing in strange keys.
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I really don't get how so many people think the sending off was harsh, this is a crappy still from the video on here but you can see Gayle still on his feet with the ball pretty much in Steer's hands. He was never getting the ball and he'll have known he had no chance with loads of time to pull out of the challenge, by not doing so he clattered into the keeper. Clearly a yellow card and, as someone else said, if it was his first one no one would be commenting on it.
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He didn't go for the ball andhe acted like a jumped up twat all game and deservedly got sent off. He is a very good player at this level. I am glad he is not playing on Tuesday.
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Did my ears deceive me or did I hear the strains of KRO on about 55 minutes very briefly coming from the stripey throstle c***s?
Surely even They wouldn't Stoop THAT Low! Surely!!
Might have been "The Lord's My Shepherd". They are not known for their musical prowess and often sing in strange keys.
Probably. Well we can give them the benefit of the doubt.
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A genuine post from SHA.
You really think the Villa supporter led FA will do anything?
I am wondering now whether they’ve actually bought the EFL. Purslow and Mendes and two billionaires. Hence them not getting touched for P&S and the League refusing to say why.
They are a carcinogen on the game. Another nail in the coffin if what little integrity remains. They’ve cheated, cheated, cheated and cheated again and again in pretty much every match, as well as on the governance side, and they’ve bought the silence of all concerned.
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Gayle should have seen his second yellow at least twice before he actually did, so they can all pipe down.
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A genuine post from SHA.
You really think the Villa supporter led FA will do anything?
I am wondering now whether they’ve actually bought the EFL. Purslow and Mendes and two billionaires. Hence them not getting touched for P&S and the League refusing to say why.
They are a carcinogen on the game. Another nail in the coffin if what little integrity remains. They’ve cheated, cheated, cheated and cheated again and again in pretty much every match, as well as on the governance side, and they’ve bought the silence of all concerned.
Yeah we bought it by finishing 5th.
The point is we have by far the most skilful player in the league and hence less good players have to foul him. If we get promoted and he stays with us he will likely get fewer fouls next year as he will be playing against better players.
Purslow is a CEO type / high leve trouble shooter figure so doubt he is a billionairre
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I really don't get how so many people think the sending off was harsh, this is a crappy still from the video on here but you can see Gayle still on his feet with the ball pretty much in Steer's hands. He was never getting the ball and he'll have known he had no chance with loads of time to pull out of the challenge, by not doing so he clattered into the keeper. Clearly a yellow card and, as someone else said, if it was his first one no one would be commenting on it.
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It’s just bitter Baggie b*llocks. ‘It Ay Fair’ episode 583.
The ball is not in his hands and the striker has to go for it imo. And not Baggies bollox from me
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Apologies if it’s been mentioned already but there was a classic moment when Mings went to the edge of the pitch after treatment for his hamstring. He was getting dogs abuse from the away fans who then complained to stewards when he smiled at them while having a drink.
Baggies fans not very happy with our “time wasting” after spending the whole game doing it themselves either.
It’s not over of course but I think we’ll revel in the space they are going to leave us when they try and get forward.
UTV
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Gayle should have seen his second yellow at least twice before he actually did, so they can all pipe down.
I do agree with this
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Im convinced Dr.Tony Xia was driving up and down outside the Trinity Road stand about an hour before kick off, which I found quite bizarre.
The sequel!
Asian Car Accelerator
He did tweet UTV after the game so he still has the feels for us if not the fees for us.
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Gayle is never getting that ball & he jumps in. A yellow card every time, I can't see any ourcome or why they are moaning. He was taking 40 secs plus for every throw in & was rightly booked after being warned.
The only justification for moaning is the possible penalty, but other than that thay got what they & their football deserved.
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Apologies if it’s been mentioned already but there was a classic moment when Mings went to the edge of the pitch after treatment for his hamstring. He was getting dogs abuse from the away fans who then complained to stewards when he smiled at them while having a drink.
Yes I watched all of that amusing eposide. Some of them were being very brave from behind the fence and netted seats.
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A genuine post from SHA.
You really think the Villa supporter led FA will do anything?
I am wondering now whether they’ve actually bought the EFL. Purslow and Mendes and two billionaires. Hence them not getting touched for P&S and the League refusing to say why.
They are a carcinogen on the game. Another nail in the coffin if what little integrity remains. They’ve cheated, cheated, cheated and cheated again and again in pretty much every match, as well as on the governance side, and they’ve bought the silence of all concerned.
Ha ha makes it even nicer
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Gayle is never getting that ball & he jumps in. A yellow card every time, I can't see any ourcome or why they are moaning. He was taking 40 secs plus for every throw in & was rightly booked after being warned.
The only justification for moaning is the possible penalty, but other than that thay got what they & their football deserved.
They’ve also convinced themselves Grealish dived for the penalty, even though their own players didn’t protest.
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Cracking video of a pub full of Villa Sydney going ape shit when the second went in.
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I really don't get how so many people think the sending off was harsh, this is a crappy still from the video on here but you can see Gayle still on his feet with the ball pretty much in Steer's hands. He was never getting the ball and he'll have known he had no chance with loads of time to pull out of the challenge, by not doing so he clattered into the keeper. Clearly a yellow card and, as someone else said, if it was his first one no one would be commenting on it.
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It’s just bitter Baggie b*llocks. ‘It Ay Fair’ episode 583.
The ball is not in his hands and the striker has to go for it imo. And not Baggies bollox from me
But he's not going for it, from that still. Steer is collecting that all day long, and Gayle's not tried to get in in front of him. I think it was a rash challenge from a frustrated competitive man.
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Gayle is never getting that ball & he jumps in. A yellow card every time, I can't see any ourcome or why they are moaning. He was taking 40 secs plus for every throw in & was rightly booked after being warned.
The only justification for moaning is the possible penalty, but other than that thay got what they & their football deserved.
They’ve also convinced themselves Grealish dived for the penalty, even though their own players didn’t protest.
Gibbs reaction was 'Shit. He has done me there!'
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Gayle had become a red card waiting to happen so it was fantastically stupid of Shan to leave him on. I think he got booked more for a totting up rather than just for that challenge, and they should have had a pen. Which is ace as the tramps were loving incompetent officials just over 5 months ago. Karma's gonna get you.
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Are there any clips of Wes Eden's reactions to the goals? He was shown by the cameras at 0-1 looking-on intently.
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Sobered up now after a nap celebrating.
Atmosphere was fantastic throughout, it went quiet once they scored for a few mins because of the disbelief. Once Hourihane scored the decibel levels just didn’t stop.
Entire 4 corners of the ground in unison ‘fuck the albion’. Ace.
Stupendous equaliser like every Villa fan’s frustration in one swish of a boot as it arrowed into the net and the eruption before the ball dropped to the floor.
The momentum, skill and noise from the stands quickly got us the 2nd goal, a pity the 3rd didn’t follow.
Adomah was poor, every time he received the ball he’d just pass it whereas El Ghazi on the other flank ran at them constantly. If he’d done the same I’m sure Albion may have capitulated with wave of wave of attack from both flanks plus the centre.
Smirking Gremlin sent off - deservedly so.
Jacks penalty - all day long, was right in front of me.
Short corners - WTF ?!! None came off!
SJM nowhere near his usual self, hope he’s not burnt out.
We’ll go through Tuesday and so will Leeds on Weds.
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A genuine post from SHA.
You really think the Villa supporter led FA will do anything?
I am wondering now whether they’ve actually bought the EFL. Purslow and Mendes and two billionaires. Hence them not getting touched for P&S and the League refusing to say why.
The poster is absolutely correct. I saw EFL officials today, dozens of them, being handed thick brown envelopes as they walked into Trinity reception. All the envelopes had letters SOTC stamped on them not sure what that is all about?
Villa supporting FA hopefully will close their ground soon.
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Some Of The Cash.
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Gayle had become a red card waiting to happen so it was fantastically stupid of Shan to leave him on. I think he got booked more for a totting up rather than just for that challenge, and they should have had a pen. Which is ace as the tramps were loving incompetent officials just over 5 months ago. Karma's gonna get you.
Interesting post I read on an Albion forum said if Robson-Kanu hadn't got himself sent off the other day, Shan might have brought Gayle off sooner.
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A genuine post from SHA.
You really think the Villa supporter led FA will do anything?
I am wondering now whether they’ve actually bought the EFL. Purslow and Mendes and two billionaires. Hence them not getting touched for P&S and the League refusing to say why.
The poster is absolutely correct. I saw EFL officials today, dozens of them, being handed thick brown envelopes as they walked into Trinity reception. All the envelopes had letters SOTC stamped on them not sure what that is all about?
Villa supporting FA hopefully will close their ground soon.
Maybe Woodhall has launched a coup to extend his empire.
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They’re right, though, it’s probably in everyone concerned’s best interests if we exit the EFL as soon as possible and never darken its doors again. Within the next 2-3 weeks if at all possible.
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The Gayle sending off and the challenge by Tammy that could so easy have been given as a pen is karma for me for the double hand ball goal in stoppage time at the yawnthorns .What goes around comes around as the saying goes
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The Gayle sending off and the challenge by Tammy that could so easy have been given as a pen is karma for me for the double hand ball goal in stoppage time at the yawnthorns .What goes around comes around as the saying goes
Yes if Rodriguez could score an own goal on the way to us going through that would be perfect.
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Tough going today but this team is proving itself capable of overcoming various challenges. We started brightly enough but the goal was a catastrophe and as soon as they scored, they immediately retreated into a 5-4-1 and kept the four narrow to ensure there was no space in midfield for the likes of Grealish and McGinn.
We did look devoid of ideas and strangely low on energy - most notably Mings and McGinn who were strangely subdued - but we know we have a special player in Jack and he found a way to influence the game decisively even though he was way below his best. Only Steer, Elmo, El Ghazi and Tuanzebe were anything like at their best for me (the latter was my man of the match) yet we still won. I would expect some of our lot to play much better on Tuesday and the loss of Gayle is huge for them. He was a constant menace, easily their biggest threat.
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It was tough, handing them a goal meant they could they could kill the game (as they did in the league game). I have no doubt at all that in the past we would not of turned that around. Different circumstances on Tuesday as they will need to open up.
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Albion were really well drilled and would gladly have accepted a draw until Glenn Whelan's wonderful through ball for Gayle to score from. They went into an even bigger shell then until we scored and then went ahead. I thought once they went behind and they had to change their tactics, they were out of ideas and we took even more control of the game, without, any any point, hitting some of the highs that we have in the brilliant run we've been on. Albion will play into our hands on Tuesday.
Magic goal from Conor, good substitution, although I was surprised Green came on earlier than Kodjia. The next goal is absolutely massive. We need to be really professional again and take nothing for granted. Gayle going off is a bonus, hopefully, Johansen might be injured too. We dominated throughout, although didn't look dangerous. Albert was poor and no matter what Taylor does, good or bad, I have made my mind up about him that he is just a really poor footballer. Tammy took a long time to get into the game too. SJM had an off day, hopefully, this is his one below par game. Well done Villa, but no half jobs please.
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A genuine post from SHA.
You really think the Villa supporter led FA will do anything?
I am wondering now whether they’ve actually bought the EFL. Purslow and Mendes and two billionaires. Hence them not getting touched for P&S and the League refusing to say why.
They are a carcinogen on the game. Another nail in the coffin if what little integrity remains. They’ve cheated, cheated, cheated and cheated again and again in pretty much every match, as well as on the governance side, and they’ve bought the silence of all concerned.
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Mendes was involved in the transfer of already forgotten Portugal keeper. Don't think he's been involved since. Of course I don't see any threads on Wolves on there where he is very much involved. The SHA and black country love in no doubt.
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They were defensive and time wasting from the start. We made a mistake and wasn't happy with the initial response but that changed
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saw the game live on sky sports and to me looked like WBA came to park the bus and hit you on the counter . think the game will be lot more open at the hawthorns well i hope so for us neutrals .
from purely a welsh perspective thought taylor was poor which is disappointing but nice to see a welsh flag draped over the barrier in the holt end after the game . i take it chester is not fit ?
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I honestly think they will set up the same way on Tuesday. They cannot match us for quality in the middle so will look to sneak an equaliser. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them happy with a 1-0. As long as we don’t do anything stupid or let one in early we will get chances as the game progresses.
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saw the game live on sky sports and to me looked like WBA came to park the bus and hit you on the counter . think the game will be lot more open at the hawthorns well i hope so for us neutrals .
from purely a welsh perspective thought taylor was poor which is disappointing but nice to see a welsh flag draped over the barrier in the holt end after the game . i take it chester is not fit ?
I agree he was poor in the last area of the field, but thought he was good defensively and that is his main job
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He seems to have a brain freeze in attacking areas, agree defensively he was good.
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It ay fair.
Aye. But if ya are you ay: and if ya ay yer cor.
Love this!
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A genuine post from SHA.
You really think the Villa supporter led FA will do anything?
I am wondering now whether they’ve actually bought the EFL. Purslow and Mendes and two billionaires. Hence them not getting touched for P&S and the League refusing to say why.
They are a carcinogen on the game. Another nail in the coffin if what little integrity remains. They’ve cheated, cheated, cheated and cheated again and again in pretty much every match, as well as on the governance side, and they’ve bought the silence of all concerned.
Yeah we bought it by finishing 5th.
We also kept Steve Bruce in a job to give everybody else a chance.
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Thought the occasion got to our players, McGinn is an example never seen him so anonymous in a game poor all day. Watching Mings I think he's carrying an injury didn't look comfortable, he wasn't on the pitch that long but I would give Man of the Match to Hourihane, he turned the game for us and allowed Grealish to play where he is most dangerous, although Taylor was ok I would prefer Hause on Tuesday. Smith was too late making changes.
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Entire 4 corners of the ground in unison ‘fuck the albion’. Ace.
Wasn't it just. Broadcast across the world.
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i take it chester is not fit ?
Unfair. I think he is very attractive ;)
In all seriousness, he's now our 4th choice centre defender. Which is unbelievable considering he started the season as captain.
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I was kept in rapt amusement at Madrid airport earlier by SHA.
The winner, in my arrogant opinion:
"One thing to remember and cause you to feel warm inside - we will never be like them. Never have that repugnant sense of self worth and slimy arrogance.
I’m really proud to be Blues and love our passion, good humour and self deprecation. What is football about - is it about being loved by Sky and drooled over by sanctimonious tw@ts in a TV studio? I don’t want Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman to like my club. I honestly couldn’t care what any media brainwashed ex-pro thinks. It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
That feeling of goosebumps when we are belting out KRO at some random away ground is worth so much more to me than them lot failing.
Even if they go up - they will still be Vile fans - that deep sense of insecurity and arrogance will be with them for life. They will never win the league again and that will always cause them to have huge existential angst and deeply embedded shame.
Don’t let them get you down - I’m off for a walk with the dog with a big smile on my face. Always proud to be a Blues fan."
I chuckled for ages at the sentence in bold.
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i take it chester is not fit ?
Unfair. I think he is very attractive ;)
In all seriousness, he's now our 4th choice centre defender. Which is unbelievable considering he started the season as captain.
if he's now 4'th choice at villa will be the best time for him to move on then especially if you lot hit the big time .
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A genuine post from SHA.
You really think the Villa supporter led FA will do anything?
I am wondering now whether they’ve actually bought the EFL. Purslow and Mendes and two billionaires. Hence them not getting touched for P&S and the League refusing to say why.
They are a carcinogen on the game. Another nail in the coffin if what little integrity remains. They’ve cheated, cheated, cheated and cheated again and again in pretty much every match, as well as on the governance side, and they’ve bought the silence of all concerned.
Mendes was involved in the transfer of already forgotten Portugal keeper. Don't think he's been involved since. Of course I don't see any threads on Wolves on there where he is very much involved. The SHA and black country love in no doubt.
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The utter hatred is slightly worrying, but also amusing.
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He’s only been in full training for just over a week. Not ready for today.
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i take it chester is not fit ?
Unfair. I think he is very attractive ;)
In all seriousness, he's now our 4th choice centre defender. Which is unbelievable considering he started the season as captain.
if he's now 4'th choice at villa will be the best time for him to move on then especially if you lot hit the big time .
It's weird the way it goes. At the start of the campaign he was the only one we had resembling a central defender. He's had fitness issues, but he wouldn't get into the matchday squad now.
Mings has been imperious, Tuanzebe is a huge part of the way Smith wants us to play and Hause after a ropey start has been excellent.
Remains to be seen regarding Chester's future. We go up I can't see a place for him. We don't go up then maybe we can't keep Mings and Tuanzebe and he gets another chance.
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just get him fit ASAP
We need him in the squad for our games against croatia and hungry next month
we ain't got the luxury of you lot where you can pick 3 teams at national level !
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It was very much like the league game at VP in February today.
They got a dodgy goal (two in February) and tried to sit on it.
It worked for them back then and we couldn't break them down but we are a very different team now.
Their goal rocked us for a while and we weren't moving the ball quickly enough but second half we created chances and could have won by more.
Albion will have to come at us on Tuesday and they could play into our hands as Deano said in his post match comments, we are going there to win the game.
I loved it reading that.
They will be without that cheating twat Gayle also.
Wembley here we come.
UTV
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How is there any indifference on our penalty? Its absolutely blatant.
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It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
Brilliant. They should award the poster a copy of the "9 minutes of heaven at Villa Park" DVD.
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It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
Brilliant. They should award the poster a copy of the "9 minutes of heaven at Villa Park" DVD.
It was followed by several people quoting it suggesting it was post of the year on there. I don't go there often but it's the best one I've seen!
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saw the game live on sky sports and to me looked like WBA came to park the bus and hit you on the counter . think the game will be lot more open at the hawthorns well i hope so for us neutrals .
from purely a welsh perspective thought taylor was poor which is disappointing but nice to see a welsh flag draped over the barrier in the holt end after the game . i take it chester is not fit ?
Yes we have many international ;) flags in the Holte. Sweden, Norway, Egypt, ROI and of course Scotland and Wales.
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Thought the occasion got to our players, McGinn is an example never seen him so anonymous in a game poor all day.
I said the same to the Mrs right at the end - its rare to see a Villa win where he was so anonymous.
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Mad- the match was on bein sports in aus. Our local didn’t have it in their package, so ended up watching it on my Fulham- supporting mate’s phone propped up on the bar!
Wasn’t confident beforehand and the Albion were already 1-0 up by the time we got to the pub. All the possession though and the crowd were fucking fantastic, so always thought we were in with a shout.
Thought their goal was a good finish. Hourihane’s was better. Definite penalty. Not even WM could spin that one. Brilliant penalty and the scenes in the Holte were fantastic!
Tuesday can’t come soon enough. Shit that Leeds bet Derby.
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I was kept in rapt amusement at Madrid airport earlier by SHA.
The winner, in my arrogant opinion:
"One thing to remember and cause you to feel warm inside - we will never be like them. Never have that repugnant sense of self worth and slimy arrogance.
I’m really proud to be Blues and love our passion, good humour and self deprecation. What is football about - is it about being loved by Sky and drooled over by sanctimonious tw@ts in a TV studio? I don’t want Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman to like my club. I honestly couldn’t care what any media brainwashed ex-pro thinks. It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
That feeling of goosebumps when we are belting out KRO at some random away ground is worth so much more to me than them lot failing.
Even if they go up - they will still be Vile fans - that deep sense of insecurity and arrogance will be with them for life. They will never win the league again and that will always cause them to have huge existential angst and deeply embedded shame.
Don’t let them get you down - I’m off for a walk with the dog with a big smile on my face. Always proud to be a Blues fan."
I chuckled for ages at the sentence in bold.
how can you be insecure and arrogant at the same time? I can see how delusion and idiocy go hand in hand though.
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I was kept in rapt amusement at Madrid airport earlier by SHA.
The winner, in my arrogant opinion:
"One thing to remember and cause you to feel warm inside - we will never be like them. Never have that repugnant sense of self worth and slimy arrogance.
I’m really proud to be Blues and love our passion, good humour and self deprecation. What is football about - is it about being loved by Sky and drooled over by sanctimonious tw@ts in a TV studio? I don’t want Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman to like my club. I honestly couldn’t care what any media brainwashed ex-pro thinks. It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
That feeling of goosebumps when we are belting out KRO at some random away ground is worth so much more to me than them lot failing.
Even if they go up - they will still be Vile fans - that deep sense of insecurity and arrogance will be with them for life. They will never win the league again and that will always cause them to have huge existential angst and deeply embedded shame.
Don’t let them get you down - I’m off for a walk with the dog with a big smile on my face. Always proud to be a Blues fan."
I chuckled for ages at the sentence in bold.
how can you be insecure and arrogant at the same time? I can see how delusion and idiocy go hand in hand though.
I also like how he finds the idea of having a sense of self-worth as 'repugnant'!
"Why don't they hate themselves like us lovable [though not, clearly, to ourselves] bloos?"
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Great day out. Fairly poor first half, and most of the team were surprisingly sloppy. Weight of expectations perhaps? Whelan had one of his worst games for ages, which I would put down to a long, hard season catching up with him. I hope Smith plays Hause at left back for the away leg, because Taylor is really, really, really crap. Mings wasn't at his imperious best today, but Axel played some nice balls out. Hourihane coming on really breathed life into the team, and from that moment there was only going to be one winner. Superb atmosphere at the start until they scored, and then for most of the second half.
And I was sat a few seats away from David Bradley, aka Walder Frey from Game of Thrones, who I now know is a huge Villa fan. He was joining in with the "Fuck the Albion" chants with more gusto than I imagine would be good for a man of his years.
https://youtu.be/uAY54jvd8Eg
This gives me goosebumps. Good old Walder
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And I was sat a few seats away from David Bradley, aka Walder Frey from Game of Thrones, who I now know is a huge Villa fan. He was joining in with the "Fuck the Albion" chants with more gusto than I imagine would be good for a man of his years.
From the bloke amazed people don't know about the Royal family! :P :-*
Oops, just seen that it's already been posted. Wonderful video, though.
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They showed character, Smith showed that he can change the game, it's good stuff and I'm (naturally) still predicting a heartbreaking defeat on penalties either at theirs or in the final, but I guess I'll enjoy this while I can!
Born in Birmingham?
Wasn't aware that there were geographical qualifications required.
Yes it is to gauge pessimism.
Correct. I was born in Birmingham and I am the most miserable, glass half empty, get you’ll ever meet. I firmly believe we will lose either this or the final on penalties. I even think Tammy will miss the first.
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I was kept in rapt amusement at Madrid airport earlier by SHA.
The winner, in my arrogant opinion:
"One thing to remember and cause you to feel warm inside - we will never be like them. Never have that repugnant sense of self worth and slimy arrogance.
I’m really proud to be Blues and love our passion, good humour and self deprecation. What is football about - is it about being loved by Sky and drooled over by sanctimonious tw@ts in a TV studio? I don’t want Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman to like my club. I honestly couldn’t care what any media brainwashed ex-pro thinks. It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
That feeling of goosebumps when we are belting out KRO at some random away ground is worth so much more to me than them lot failing.
Even if they go up - they will still be Vile fans - that deep sense of insecurity and arrogance will be with them for life. They will never win the league again and that will always cause them to have huge existential angst and deeply embedded shame.
Don’t let them get you down - I’m off for a walk with the dog with a big smile on my face. Always proud to be a Blues fan."
I chuckled for ages at the sentence in bold.
how can you be insecure and arrogant at the same time? I can see how delusion and idiocy go hand in hand though.
Delusional bollocks.
Sadly Birmingham City will always be behind us.
They can’t beat us at football so scrabble around for anything to be ahead of us.
Enjoy the dog walk. Your pet clearly has more intelligence on this and many other subjects.
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Why would knowing we’ll never win the league cause us horrendous existential angst but not have the same effect on them?
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That from the supporter of a club that is so deeply insecure it abandoned its name.
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Just seen the interview where Jimmy Shan says "Villa might adopt some of the tactics we used today".
No, we fucking won't Jim bob.
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It was quite unbelievably stupid from Gayle in the second half. Booked for time wasting, should have got a second yellow for a body check a few minutes later, and then with the final whistle looming he gets himself sent off for a pointless lunge at the goalkeeper, thereby significantly reducing his side's chances in the second leg. Footballers never cease to amaze me at how brain dead they can be.
Hilarious!
Yes - utterly fucking stupid on his part.
disagree.. think it was a brilliant decision by him ..then again im biased
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a couple of mates who are stripeys have been moaning about the penalty.. i just remind them of the handball in 1st game and tends to shut em up
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caller on WM said wasn't penalty , they should have had one and Gayle shouldn't have been sent off..love the unbiased opinions..
No that was Jimmy Shan their caretaker coach / under 9s manager.
No it was a caller.. Shan said he had no complaints about the penalty.the follow up caller made teh comments
Yes you’re right. I was skipping back and forth as kept losing the connection.
no that wasnt a bad connection that was franksy trying to get something in about how great Nuno has been at wolves.
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I don't get this " it's far from over" opinion. It's over. This was their big chance to get away with a draw. They have reverted to horrific Pulis methods under Jimmy Shan including those laughable long throws. Parked their bus and nearly got away with it but didn't. On Tuesday they are going to have to open up as they need to win by 2 clear. No chance of that.
They could win by 1 and then win on penalties. It is far from over, better teams than us have fucked up against shitter sides than the bitters. I don't want there to be any complacency.
true... look at Liverpool and Spurs this week for examples how its far from finished..we still have to go and do the job on Tuesday...
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I see some Leeds fans, who rival the noses for their bitterness, believe Conor shouldn't have been on the pitch. God willing he'll be there on the 27th to deliver a knockout.
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It was quite unbelievably stupid from Gayle in the second half. Booked for time wasting, should have got a second yellow for a body check a few minutes later, and then with the final whistle looming he gets himself sent off for a pointless lunge at the goalkeeper, thereby significantly reducing his side's chances in the second leg. Footballers never cease to amaze me at how brain dead they can be.
Hilarious!
Yes - utterly fucking stupid on his part.
disagree.. think it was a brilliant decision by him ..then again im biased
Gayle is now suspended for 2 games (due to a previous ban for cheating) which means he’d miss the final if they got there and he may have played his last game for them.
Which begs the question - why didn’t they substitute him?! Even I had clocked that he was looking like a walking red card who was going to get himself sent off and miss the 2nd leg. The fact that Shan couldn’t see this is shocking (but funny).
Also if they had any decent analysts at the club they’d have known he was a red card away from a 2 game ban. ( personally I think the 2nd game he’ll miss is more likely to be Barnsley at home rather than a Wembley final).
It’s all beautiful karma though. The cheating little shit.
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Why would knowing we’ll never win the league cause us horrendous existential angst but not have the same effect on them?
Because their ambition is limited to beating us...nothing else matters to the sad pathetic pr**ks
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What an atmosphere - we were in the top of the Trinity and the noise was incredible. And you can all thank Kingthing for the first goal. He should go for a piss in the middle of the game more often.
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Why would knowing we’ll never win the league cause us horrendous existential angst but not have the same effect on them?
It's the thought that we might that's getting them so upset.
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Exactly. It's the not knowing that kills you.
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Be nice if we could give our opposition blaster an airing against Brighton and Hove next season.
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I see some Leeds fans, who rival the noses for their bitterness, believe Conor shouldn't have been on the pitch. God willing he'll be there on the 27th to deliver a knockout.
I wonder if the Leeds muppets are so vocal about their own player (Klitch) who should have been red carded last night or for another idiot linesman who overruled a perfectly legitimate penalty awarded to Derby.
Fuck Leeds and just sit back and enjoy the bitterness and suffering that our local rivals are currently putting themselves through.
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Predicted Second Leg Post Match summary from an Albion perspective:-
It ay fair
It ay fair
You wow beat Leeds anyway
It ay fair
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I was kept in rapt amusement at Madrid airport earlier by SHA.
The winner, in my arrogant opinion:
"One thing to remember and cause you to feel warm inside - we will never be like them. Never have that repugnant sense of self worth and slimy arrogance.
I’m really proud to be Blues and love our passion, good humour and self deprecation. What is football about - is it about being loved by Sky and drooled over by sanctimonious tw@ts in a TV studio? I don’t want Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman to like my club. I honestly couldn’t care what any media brainwashed ex-pro thinks. It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
That feeling of goosebumps when we are belting out KRO at some random away ground is worth so much more to me than them lot failing.
Even if they go up - they will still be Vile fans - that deep sense of insecurity and arrogance will be with them for life. They will never win the league again and that will always cause them to have huge existential angst and deeply embedded shame.
Don’t let them get you down - I’m off for a walk with the dog with a big smile on my face. Always proud to be a Blues fan."
I chuckled for ages at the sentence in bold.
how can you be insecure and arrogant at the same time? I can see how delusion and idiocy go hand in hand though.
Delusional bollocks.
Sadly Birmingham City will always be behind us.
They can’t beat us at football so scrabble around for anything to be ahead of us.
Enjoy the dog walk. Your pet clearly has more intelligence on this and many other subjects.
Here, the dog takes its inferior for a walk.
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I was kept in rapt amusement at Madrid airport earlier by SHA.
The winner, in my arrogant opinion:
"One thing to remember and cause you to feel warm inside - we will never be like them. Never have that repugnant sense of self worth and slimy arrogance.
I’m really proud to be Blues and love our passion, good humour and self deprecation. What is football about - is it about being loved by Sky and drooled over by sanctimonious tw@ts in a TV studio? I don’t want Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman to like my club. I honestly couldn’t care what any media brainwashed ex-pro thinks. It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
That feeling of goosebumps when we are belting out KRO at some random away ground is worth so much more to me than them lot failing.
Even if they go up - they will still be Vile fans - that deep sense of insecurity and arrogance will be with them for life. They will never win the league again and that will always cause them to have huge existential angst and deeply embedded shame.
Don’t let them get you down - I’m off for a walk with the dog with a big smile on my face. Always proud to be a Blues fan."
I chuckled for ages at the sentence in bold.
how can you be insecure and arrogant at the same time? I can see how delusion and idiocy go hand in hand though.
Noses are the epitome of insecurity. That post is a classic example of it. They are continually telling themselves that they are happy where they are as a club and that they don't need our riches or history - How singing KRO at an away game brings out goosebumps - How they are real fans and we're all plastics - How they all come from Birmingham (all 20,000 of them out of 1,000,000) and all other irrelevant drivel.
If they're so happy with where they are as a club, there would be no obsession with Villa - They would behave as we generally do towards them (without the entertainment factor that we enjoy admittedly) Apart from the 2 games against them, I barely give the clowns a second thought all season - Even the 9 point deduction meant nothing to me as I don't view them as a rival. It is their insecurity that brings out the obsession they have for us and fcuk them - Let them drown in their bitterness and obsessions - They bring nothing to the party save for a bit of light hearted amusement.
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Delighted with the win considering we wasn't at our best and too many players were off their game. Their game plan looked to be working a treat and it was probably going to take something special to get back into it. I thought Gayle for them was very good. It's a shame, sorry I mean hilarious that he's out for Tuesday.
Also a quick word on the atmosphere, it was absolutely superb yesterday.
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And I was sat a few seats away from David Bradley, aka Walder Frey from Game of Thrones, who I now know is a huge Villa fan. He was joining in with the "Fuck the Albion" chants with more gusto than I imagine would be good for a man of his years.
From the bloke amazed people don't know about the Royal family! :P :-*
Oops, just seen that it's already been posted. Wonderful video, though.
Brings a tear to my eye every time. Best video about the villa ever made. Just don't go to the wedding if he invites you.
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Is Gayle the ugliest cnut in football?
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Gayle is a very good player, glad he's out for Tuesday. The red mist certainly descended yesterday though as he should have been sent off before he actually was.
Thought the atmosphere was fantastic last 20 minutes and outside the ground afterwards.
We can play a lot better which is encouraging for the second leg while I think they are so limited.
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He lost the plot. Him diving and holding his face was absolutely embarrassing, while he should have walked before he did.
The whole ground singing Fuck the Albion was joyous. Horrible, dirty, snidey, sub-Pulis wankers.
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Don't know their manager's name but thought he was made not to take Gayle off. I said to our kid he was gonna get himself sent off and sure enough he obliged. Was arguably lucky not to go earlier, and I think Gibbs should have got a second yellow for the penalty, too. I would also have sent off Rodriguez just because I don't like him or his stupid face.
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I seem to recall that Gayle cynically drew a foul from Krul and won a penalty very early in the season. I wonder if he was trying to do the same thing yesterday? It's the only explanation for his stupidity at that point in the game, other than that incredible stupidity is his default setting, obvs. Either way, delighted that he's unavailable for Tuesday.
Me and Rodders Jnr keep spontaneously breaking into Fuck The Albion. Can we go on to adapt it to "Fuck The Dirty Leeds" for the final please?
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Just gone to get into the shower and see that Rodders Jnr has been busy with his little brother's alphabet.
(https://i.ibb.co/25MqfKL/DSC-0138.jpg) (https://ibb.co/25MqfKL)
edit - don't know why it doesn't show properly.
Sorry.
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It's fine when you click on it. A work of art.
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Is Gayle the ugliest cnut in football?
He’s got a 200 year old face.
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No yellow cards for us is a bonus, too.
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I'm normally utter shite at predictions but I said in the pre-match thread I wasn't very confident because we'd been fluffing too many chances (we fluffed a couple I suppose) , we always seem to have at least one error in us (thank you Whelan) that always seems to get punished (it did), and they would target Jack (they did, but that was obvious). I also said we are due a bit of luck against the boggies (No penalty for them, Gayle's incredible stupidity) so I think we'll sneak the home leg 1-0 or 2-1 .
Not bad I'd say. Off to change my name to Nostradamus.
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I'm in the minority but I don't like 'f**k the albion' or any other chant which repeats the name of the opposition loudly. I would rather our proud name be chanted - I don't know how it sounded on the TV but they obviously dampen the bad language so it gives a false representation.
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I agree with this. It’s satisfying to sing but it just sounds like massive support for Albion to the neutral ear.
I think they sing ‘For the Albion’ so to them too, it’ll sound like they’ve taken over the whole ground!
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I was kept in rapt amusement at Madrid airport earlier by SHA.
The winner, in my arrogant opinion:
"One thing to remember and cause you to feel warm inside - we will never be like them. Never have that repugnant sense of self worth and slimy arrogance.
I’m really proud to be Blues and love our passion, good humour and self deprecation. What is football about - is it about being loved by Sky and drooled over by sanctimonious tw@ts in a TV studio? I don’t want Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman to like my club. I honestly couldn’t care what any media brainwashed ex-pro thinks. It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
That feeling of goosebumps when we are belting out KRO at some random away ground is worth so much more to me than them lot failing.
Even if they go up - they will still be Vile fans - that deep sense of insecurity and arrogance will be with them for life. They will never win the league again and that will always cause them to have huge existential angst and deeply embedded shame.
Don’t let them get you down - I’m off for a walk with the dog with a big smile on my face. Always proud to be a Blues fan."
I chuckled for ages at the sentence in bold.
how can you be insecure and arrogant at the same time? I can see how delusion and idiocy go hand in hand though.
robbo that's a bit harsh. SE is neither insecure nor arrogant.
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I'm in the minority but I don't like 'f**k the albion' or any other chant which repeats the name of the opposition loudly. I would rather our proud name be chanted - I don't know how it sounded on the TV but they obviously dampen the bad language so it gives a false representation.
I agree with this. It’s satisfying to sing but it just sounds like massive support for Albion to the neutral ear.
I think they sing ‘For the Albion’ so to them too, it’ll sound like they’ve taken over the whole ground!
Yes and it skirts too close to SOTV that them both spout 2 mins after kick off in any math they play and we love that.
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I agree with this. It’s satisfying to sing but it just sounds like massive support for Albion to the neutral ear.
I think they sing ‘For the Albion’ so to them too, it’ll sound like they’ve taken over the whole ground!
I don't agree at all, it's not for the neutral ear anyway, it's to let that lot know we are their rivals and we don't like them much.
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I agree with this. It’s satisfying to sing but it just sounds like massive support for Albion to the neutral ear.
I think they sing ‘For the Albion’ so to them too, it’ll sound like they’ve taken over the whole ground!
The fact that most of the ground was on its feet, and gesturing towards them, might have been a bit of a giveaway though. Even for the thickest of neutrals.
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I agree with this. It’s satisfying to sing but it just sounds like massive support for Albion to the neutral ear.
I think they sing ‘For the Albion’ so to them too, it’ll sound like they’ve taken over the whole ground!
I don't agree at all, it's not for the neutral ear anyway, it's to let that lot know we are their rivals and we don't like them much.
But we are not their rivals in any sporting sense at all. They just happen to be a an average football club near us.
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SHA fans are the football equivalent of a stalker. There are probably more Villa fans in Erdington, Kingstanding and Sutton alone than they get for their home games.
And for whining Albion fans:
Anywhere else on the pitch, or not already on a yellow, and Gibbs gets a yellow for the challenge on Jack. I was angry at the time that the ref let him off lightly.
Not one of their players disputed the pen, they knew it was stonewall. And every pundit agreed.
Yes they maybe should have had a pen too, but Karma is a wonderful thing - They got points they didn't deserve against us and Forest by cheating and incompetent officials. Not so nice when it comes back to bite you on the arse is it?
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I agree with this. It’s satisfying to sing but it just sounds like massive support for Albion to the neutral ear.
I think they sing ‘For the Albion’ so to them too, it’ll sound like they’ve taken over the whole ground!
The fact that most of the ground was on its feet, and gesturing towards them, might have been a bit of a giveaway though. Even for the thickest of neutrals.
I was watching on tv - the cameras were showing the pitch & the ‘swear word’ was unclear. It sounds like massive support for Albion - not just to neutrals - but to THEM.
I’d rather sing about us. We’ve actually got a reasonable collection of songs for the first time in years. Save ‘Fuck the Albion’ for social media.
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I agree with this. It’s satisfying to sing but it just sounds like massive support for Albion to the neutral ear.
I think they sing ‘For the Albion’ so to them too, it’ll sound like they’ve taken over the whole ground!
The fact that most of the ground was on its feet, and gesturing towards them, might have been a bit of a giveaway though. Even for the thickest of neutrals.
I was watching on tv - the cameras were showing the pitch & the ‘swear word’ was unclear. It sounds like massive support for Albion - not just to neutrals - but to THEM.
I’d rather sing about us. We’ve actually got a reasonable collection of songs for the first time in years. Save ‘Fuck the Albion’ for social media.
It doesn’t really matter how it appears on the box though, it’s the atmosphere in the ground that counts and there was not one person there who was in any doubt what the song was about.
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I had a bad feeeling yesterday and it wasn’t helped in the warm up. The Albion were pretty intense with drills and keep ball whilst we were just doing our own thing. They seemed much more intense than us.
Like many, I can’t believe how many big players had an average game. Most of our play was in front of their defence and our passing was slow and lacking zip. The goal was just an aberration from us and gave them something to protect, which they did well as they were very well organised. At half time I said to my nephew I would be relieved with a draw.
Credit to El Ghazi for running at them so much and well done Deano for the changes which could have come 5-10 minutes earlier. Hourahan helped drive us further forward and that gave Jack more space.
Ours was a stonewall penalty and they should have had one too for Tammy’s challenge - in the ground I didn’t think it was.
Gayle’s sending off was a bonus. I said to my nephew that he risked a second yellow for another slow throw, but I didn’t think it would be for a stupid foul. He unsettled our defence all game so I’m pleased he is missing on Tuesday.
Very good atmosphere overall, and the noisiest I think I have ever heard the North Stand. It was fantastic, although quiet for 20 minutes in first half after their goal. With all 4 sides of the ground roaring away Villa Park is a magical place. The Albion fans made a fair bit of noise in the first half, and I confirm they were not singing KRO but their favourite hymn.
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The thoughts of Tipton (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
Take a peak at any of the threads on there if you fancy a laugh. Be it the threads where they played well or the threads where we had all the luck or the ones with their pedigree for making the Hawthorns intimidating (sniggers) because they beat Seansea 26 years ago.
It's wow. Absolute wow. Must be lead paint in Yam-Yam land.
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The thoughts of Tipton (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
Take a peak at any of the threads on there if you fancy a laugh. Be it the threads where they played well or the threads where we had all the luck or the ones with their pedigree for making the Hawthorns intimidating (sniggers) because they beat Seansea 26 years ago.
It's wow. Absolute wow. Must be lead paint in Yam-Yam land.
It may surprise you to learn that there re a hell of a lot of villa fans in (as you call it) yam yam land
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Love the Tammy interview when he responds to the "your last game at villa park " with the line "i don't wanna say its my last game ".... he may not be here next season but you cant fault the guys commitment to the cause
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The thoughts of Tipton (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
Take a peak at any of the threads on there if you fancy a laugh. Be it the threads where they played well or the threads where we had all the luck or the ones with their pedigree for making the Hawthorns intimidating (sniggers) because they beat Seansea 26 years ago.
It's wow. Absolute wow. Must be lead paint in Yam-Yam land.
It may surprise you to learn that there re a hell of a lot of villa fans in (as you call it) yam yam land
Just had a quick look.
A "Cauldron of Hate". Phhrt!!!
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The thoughts of Tipton (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
Take a peak at any of the threads on there if you fancy a laugh. Be it the threads where they played well or the threads where we had all the luck or the ones with their pedigree for making the Hawthorns intimidating (sniggers) because they beat Seansea 26 years ago.
It's wow. Absolute wow. Must be lead paint in Yam-Yam land.
It may surprise you to learn that there re a hell of a lot of villa fans in (as you call it) yam yam land
And?
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The thoughts of Tipton (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
Take a peak at any of the threads on there if you fancy a laugh. Be it the threads where they played well or the threads where we had all the luck or the ones with their pedigree for making the Hawthorns intimidating (sniggers) because they beat Seansea 26 years ago.
It's wow. Absolute wow. Must be lead paint in Yam-Yam land.
It may surprise you to learn that there re a hell of a lot of villa fans in (as you call it) yam yam land
Just had a quick look.
A "Cauldron of Hate". Phhrt!!!
well you should stop reading the stripeys site
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The thoughts of Tipton (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
Take a peak at any of the threads on there if you fancy a laugh. Be it the threads where they played well or the threads where we had all the luck or the ones with their pedigree for making the Hawthorns intimidating (sniggers) because they beat Seansea 26 years ago.
It's wow. Absolute wow. Must be lead paint in Yam-Yam land.
and any insinuation of yam yams being thick reflects on those of us who support villa
It may surprise you to learn that there re a hell of a lot of villa fans in (as you call it) yam yam land
And?
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The thoughts of Tipton (https://wbaunofficial.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4)
Take a peak at any of the threads on there if you fancy a laugh. Be it the threads where they played well or the threads where we had all the luck or the ones with their pedigree for making the Hawthorns intimidating (sniggers) because they beat Seansea 26 years ago.
It's wow. Absolute wow. Must be lead paint in Yam-Yam land.
and any insinuation of yam yams being thick reflects on those of us who support villa
It may surprise you to learn that there re a hell of a lot of villa fans in (as you call it) yam yam land
And?
Any insinuation of yam yams being thick reflects on those of us that support villa
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Any yam yam who chooses to support Albion is by definition thick.
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I wasn't insinuating they were thick, I was suggesting they're off their tits on lead paint fumes, such is the level of shite they're chatting.
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Any yam yam who chooses to support Albion is by definition thick.
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What about those from Brum who support albion?
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Anyone from anywhere who supports Albion must be thick.
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All these quote fails aren't doing much for your argument geolex. Wink.
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I wasn't insinuating they were thick, I was suggesting they're off they're tits on lead paint fumes, such is the level of shite they're chatting.
Fair enough please accept my grovelling apology for my mis -understanding of your post..... probably the paint fumes...lol
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I'm in the minority but I don't like 'f**k the albion' or any other chant which repeats the name of the opposition loudly. I would rather our proud name be chanted - I don't know how it sounded on the TV but they obviously dampen the bad language so it gives a false representation.
I love it.
The thing is it only gets sung when we play those fuckers, you never hear it normally because they mean nothing to us. In the same way you never hear songs about the dogheads.
I do however hate hearing shit on the city, or Birmingham are you listening, when we are not playing the Rags. They should be just as meaningless to us as the other two.
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Go and sit on the naughty step yer filthy tramp.
(https://i.ibb.co/rtTYMmN/73514-D0-A-354-A-4-C5-D-B583-0381-BD5442-A6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rtTYMmN)
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All these quote fails aren't doing much for your argument geolex. Wink.
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Love the Tammy interview when he responds to the "your last game at villa park " with the line "i don't wanna say its my last game ".... he may not be here next season but you cant fault the guys commitment to the cause
I agree with your point about the question of it being his last game.
There was no need for it and it was just a crap question from a crap interviewer, much like his ‘questions’ in the pre match pressers.
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They’re actually keeping an understandably low profile in Tipton today. I’ve seen one street urchin in a ‘Gayle’ shirt and that’s all.
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Exactly and i thought he responded in the right way
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They’re actually keeping an understandably low profile in Tipton today. I’ve seen one street urchin in a ‘Gayle’ shirt and that’s all.
Wouldnt you if you lived in Tipton?
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The atmosphere yesterday was the best I have seen in years. Great atmosphere outside beforehand.
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They’re actually keeping an understandably low profile in Tipton today. I’ve seen one street urchin in a ‘Gayle’ shirt and that’s all.
Maybe it is Gayle's actual shirt. He won't need it ever again. ;)
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The atmosphere yesterday was the best I have seen in years. Great atmosphere outside beforehand.
It was very, very good. I was concerned beforehand that we were losing an advantage by playing at home in an early kick off, as Villa Park with a late kick off is a wonderful place. I feared the atmosphere may be slightly subdued. I’m glad to be proven wrong.
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I think the atmosphere has been amazing in parts for the past 5 or 6 home games. The crowd fell silent after WBA scored which played into their hands a little bit and allowed the Albion fans to make themselves heard.
I really rate Dwight Gayle and think he was part of the reason why Mings didn't have his best game yesterday. It is no coincidence that he was up against his most difficult opponent since joining in January. I would be quite open to seeing Gale playing in a Dean Smith side and wouldn't be upset if we signed him next season, regardless of division.
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First time i've got back on here since yesterday - i thought the Albion payed the price for parking the bus and time wasting yesterday. They werent particularly very ambitious in the second half and once we finally took the lead it was never in doubt. They did defend very well in numbers but we had the momentum after the Conor goal and obviously Gayle's sending off was a god send, particularly as he misses the second leg. As for their "penalty"... it was a penalty i think but to be fair the decision evened out the Rodriguez goal in December. Onwards and upwards, Villa!
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As much as a cock players like Maupay and Gayle are they are perfectly suited to the Championship. Quick and sharp I’d take both if we stay down and likely lose Tammy. That said if we go up there are much better players out there and we would need them.
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They’re actually keeping an understandably low profile in Tipton today. I’ve seen one street urchin in a ‘Gayle’ shirt and that’s all.
Wouldnt you if you lived in Tipton?
There is an unwritten rule to follow which says know a little bit about the poster who's post you are replying to ;)
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The clue is often in the poster's name. Sexual Ealing lives in MiddleSEX, PWS lives in PETERborough, Dave SHELley lives in Sheldon, TV lives in Quebec just down the road from me in GREEN Bay. You will soon get the hang of it geolex..
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The clue is often in the poster's name. Sexual Ealing lives in MiddleSEX, PWS lives in PETERborough, Dave SHELley lives in Sheldon, TV lives in Quebec just down the road from me in GREEN Bay. You will soon get the hang of it geolex..
‘Location: Tipton’ is more obscure, but a slight clue nonetheless.
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I wouldn't want Maupay or Gayle if we go up and I'd be very unsure of the latter if we don't. He's 28 and would be at a fee that he'll never be worth again, he's exactly the sort of signing that has caused us to be in the shit over the last decade. I'd consider him on loan but I'd rather we make permanent signings if we can.
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I think Maupay is vey good and still only 21 or 22?
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The clue is often in the poster's name. Sexual Ealing lives in MiddleSEX, PWS lives in PETERborough, Dave SHELley lives in Sheldon, TV lives in Quebec just down the road from me in GREEN Bay. You will soon get the hang of it geolex..
‘Location: Tipton’ is more obscure, but a slight clue nonetheless.
Yam cor see the lowcation if yam using them mowbile versions.
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I think the atmosphere has been amazing in parts for the past 5 or 6 home games. The crowd fell silent after WBA scored which played into their hands a little bit and allowed the Albion fans to make themselves heard.
I really rate Dwight Gayle and think he was part of the reason why Mings didn't have his best game yesterday. It is no coincidence that he was up against his most difficult opponent since joining in January. I would be quite open to seeing Gale playing in a Dean Smith side and wouldn't be upset if we signed him next season, regardless of division.
I agree about Gayle.
He's a Premier League level striker, no doubt about it. I know he spent a lot of time throwing himself around and rolling about on the ground, as well as other acts of timewasting and following through on Steer, but he's a very good player indeed, and him not being available will make a massive difference on Tuesday.
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He looks like the Mel B character on Bo Selecta.
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
The Huckerby Zone.
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
The Huckerby Zone.
21st century Guy Whittingham.
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
The Huckerby Zone.
21st century Guy Whittingham.
Players like Grabban often arrive from the top flight on a David Nugent scholarship.
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
The Huckerby Zone.
21st century Guy Whittingham.
Players like Grabban often arrive from the top flight on a David Nugent scholarship.
Or with a Jermaine Beckford grant from the Ministry of Nearly.
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I thought we were lacking energy and effort for a good hour yesterday. The introduction of Hourihane changed that as he was looking to create something straight away.
They really didn't want to do anything but waste time and hang on. Much like we would have done under our last manager.
They were hard to break down but we don't have to do that now, we just have to not give anything away again and we'll be fine on Tuesday. An early goal for us would, of course, be great.
I thought Gayle was lucky to be on the pitch as long as he was, the amount of diving, feigning injury, time wasting etc should have seen him booked far earlier.
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
The Huckerby Zone.
21st century Guy Whittingham.
Players like Grabban often arrive from the top flight on a David Nugent scholarship.
Or with a Jermaine Beckford grant from the Ministry of Nearly.
Yes, the ministry where long standing civil servants, upon their retirement, are handed a ceremonial Steve Bull as reminder of this noble principle: that which ought not to travel is best served by standing still, ay it.
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They lost their heads really in two crucial moments. Gibbs gave away a free kick on Green for putting his hand in his face and lost it with ref. Few minutes later, still rattled, he gave away a penalty. Lucky not to get a second yellow in truth, crazy tackle for an experienced player.
Gayle was utterly stupid. Narrowly avoided a second yellow moments earlier and there wasn't a hope of him getting to that cross.
We simply have to keep our heads on Tues night. Going down to 10 men could turn the tie.
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I agree they lost their heads. The part the home support played in this is not to be underestimated. Up to 40k fans singing allez and f-ck the albion with the intensity they did has got to be unnerving to individuals on the pitch. Long may this continue. UTV!
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
Maybe so but if Deano wanted him, I would trust him.
For every Guy Wittingham and Jermaine Beckford, there is a Jordan Ayew, Bosco Balaban or a Milan Baros.
I'd wager that Gayle's conversion rate is better than Abraham's who is also yet to prove himself in the PL.
If (and it is obviously a big if) we do get back to where we belong this season, we need to be realistic in who we are going to attract. Signing Benteke was the exception rather than the norm and for every Benteke.....................
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
Maybe so but if Deano wanted him, I would trust him.
For every Guy Wittingham and Jermaine Beckford, there is a Jordan Ayew, Bosco Balaban or a Milan Baros.
I'd wager that Gayle's conversion rate is better than Abraham's who is also yet to prove himself in the PL.
If (and it is obviously a big if) we do get back to where we belong this season, we need to be realistic in who we are going to attract. Signing Benteke was the exception rather than the norm and for every Benteke.....................
I'm struggling with your 'for every x there is a y' equation. You seem to be saying that for every x there is an x?
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
Maybe so but if Deano wanted him, I would trust him.
For every Guy Wittingham and Jermaine Beckford, there is a Jordan Ayew, Bosco Balaban or a Milan Baros.
I'd wager that Gayle's conversion rate is better than Abraham's who is also yet to prove himself in the PL.
If (and it is obviously a big if) we do get back to where we belong this season, we need to be realistic in who we are going to attract. Signing Benteke was the exception rather than the norm and for every Benteke.....................
I'm struggling with your 'for every x there is a y' equation. You seem to be saying that for every x there is an x?
Signings from foreign leagues fail as often as those signed from lower leagues. For every Akinbiyi there is a Altidore. Or something
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Gayle is one of those players that is too good for Division 2 but is shit with the odd spike into mediocre in the top flight.
Maybe so but if Deano wanted him, I would trust him.
For every Guy Wittingham and Jermaine Beckford, there is a Jordan Ayew, Bosco Balaban or a Milan Baros.
I'd wager that Gayle's conversion rate is better than Abraham's who is also yet to prove himself in the PL.
If (and it is obviously a big if) we do get back to where we belong this season, we need to be realistic in who we are going to attract. Signing Benteke was the exception rather than the norm and for every Benteke.....................
I'm struggling with your 'for every x there is a y' equation. You seem to be saying that for every x there is an x?
Signings from foreign leagues fail as often as those signed from lower leagues. For every Akinbiyi there is a Altidore. Or something
Ah, we've 'gone foreign'. Thanks Danno.
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Gayle is yet to prove himself in the Premier League as well.
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Gayle was there best player yesterday and caused us problems, but he's 29. How much better is he realistically going to get? I doubt he'll play much in the premier league wherever he ends up.
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I've never liked Gayle as a player or a person whether playing for Palace, Newcastle or the Baggies. I wouldn't like it at all if we signed him...he's the type of player that will end up playing for Blose one day. We can do better than that little shit ******.
Does anyone have any links to coverage or clips of the crowd singing FTA or when the players walked out with the large flag? There was a very short clip of the players walking out in the EFL highlights but they didn't show it as part of the coverage.
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Gayle is yet to prove himself in the Premier League as well.
Agree - Both Tammy & Gayle are unproven in the PL.
I accept that there's a reason why Gayle has been around as long as he has but has not secured regular PL football.
My feeling is that under Deano, a big striker is not essential. Hogan is 5'10 and Maupay doesn't look much taller. For many sides, a target man is key but not for all teams. I'm not saying that Gayle would be my first choice (and quite honestly, I don't know who I'd ideally like us to go for if we managed to get promotion). My point is that if Deano felt that Gayle could do a job for us in the PL, I would be comfortable with that.
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He looks like the Mel B character on Bo Selecta.
Fucking bravo. That has really made me laugh hilts, and you are 100% correct.
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Everything that needs to be said about this game has been said already, but I do wonder how the game would have panned out without that mistake from Whelan (and you can't blame Jack for the give and go pass). They set up as 541 but retreated and parked their bus so deep that it soon became 631 or 640 at times with two walls of well organised players for us to break down...throw in the spoiling tactics and it was a really hard challenge for our players to find space, gaps and create any threat on goal. It wasn't helped by Jack, SJM and Mings not being up to their usual standard, however we always seem to struggle to break down teams that come to spoil games at Villa Park...but that wonder strike and penalty were well deserved. I would have liked to see us push harder for a third, so we still have a lot of hard work to do on Tuesday. The better team won and football justice was done. UTV!!!
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They were well organised and stuck to their game plan but our relentless pressure told in the end.
They definitely stifled Jack by putting a very capable man-marker on him.
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I was kept in rapt amusement at Madrid airport earlier by SHA.
The winner, in my arrogant opinion:
"One thing to remember and cause you to feel warm inside - we will never be like them. Never have that repugnant sense of self worth and slimy arrogance.
I’m really proud to be Blues and love our passion, good humour and self deprecation. What is football about - is it about being loved by Sky and drooled over by sanctimonious tw@ts in a TV studio? I don’t want Andy Hinchcliffe or Don Goodman to like my club. I honestly couldn’t care what any media brainwashed ex-pro thinks. It’s all unconscious bias that they don’t even know they have.
That feeling of goosebumps when we are belting out KRO at some random away ground is worth so much more to me than them lot failing.
Even if they go up - they will still be Vile fans - that deep sense of insecurity and arrogance will be with them for life. They will never win the league again and that will always cause them to have huge existential angst and deeply embedded shame.
Don’t let them get you down - I’m off for a walk with the dog with a big smile on my face. Always proud to be a Blues fan."
I chuckled for ages at the sentence in bold.
how can you be insecure and arrogant at the same time? I can see how delusion and idiocy go hand in hand though.
robbo that's a bit harsh. SE is neither insecure nor arrogant.
I never said he was-i was referring to the bloser that he had quoted!
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Which is (or at least should have been) blatantly obvious.
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I thought it was a joke.
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I'm so glad we beat the Tesco Bags the second half was better than the first they came with a game plan stick men behind the ball and defend for there lives they will have to come out and play at the Hawthorns on Tuesday but if we can play like we did in the second half I reckon we will get the result we need. FTA
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Everything that needs to be said about this game has been said already, but I do wonder how the game would have panned out without that mistake from Whelan (and you can't blame Jack for the give and go pass). They set up as 541 but retreated and parked their bus so deep that it soon became 631 or 640 at times with two walls of well organised players for us to break down...throw in the spoiling tactics and it was a really hard challenge for our players to find space, gaps and create any threat on goal. It wasn't helped by Jack, SJM and Mings not being up to their usual standard, however we always seem to struggle to break down teams that come to spoil games at Villa Park...but that wonder strike and penalty were well deserved. I would have liked to see us push harder for a third, so we still have a lot of hard work to do on Tuesday. The better team won and football justice was done. UTV!!!
Looking from on high, the moment they went to six at the back was incredible. It was so well executed, so straight, with almost military spacings that I couldn't help but think they must practice that a lot. The fucking dull ******.
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Yes them starting the second half in a 6-4 formation was incredible. Like watching a Pulis wet dream.
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Superb strike from Conor -quite unstoppable; it hit the inside of the net rather than the back.
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Can everybody stop ruining my Wemberley run-up by cluttering up the Final thread with talk of these, please? We all know what we saw, what in actuality happened. The stripeyfilth know what happened, too. They, and those who peculiarly seem to have wanted them to triumph with their modern take on the Rugby code, need to stop lying to themselves.