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Title: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: not3bad on April 24, 2019, 11:55:21 AM
A bitter dispute between Championship clubs looks set to escalate as demands to see the financial statements of Derby, Sheffield Wednesday and Aston Villa intensify, Sky Sports News has learned.

A majority of Championship clubs, led by Middlesbrough owner Steve Gibson, will meet at Nottingham Forest's City Ground on Wednesday to vote on a change in EFL rules - one which would allow clubs the chance to study each other's accounts.

Gibson believes the league's profitability and sustainability (P&S) rules, formerly known as Financial Fair Play, may have been broken by the three clubs - and he is demanding greater transparency.

Wednesday's meeting is expected to be a fiery affair and, if 18 of the 24 vote for change, EFL rules could be changed within seven days, allowing all P&S statements to be shared.

Sky Sports News understands that both Aston Villa and Sheffield Wednesday are lobbying hard to keep the rules unchanged.

Clubs unable to attend the meeting have been asked by the EFL to vote by proxy.

Sky Sports News understands it is unlikely that any new breaches of regulations which are uncovered would lead to points deductions in this campaign.

Brought in two years ago, the P&S rules state that clubs cannot lose more than £39m over a three-year period, and a breach could lead to potential sanctions including transfer bans and points deductions.

Last month Birmingham became the first to fall foul of the rules and were deducted nine points, seeing them drop five places to 18th in the league. They recorded total losses of £48.8m from 2015-16 to 2017-18, nearly £10m more than the £39m limit.

All other Championship clubs, up to March 2018, have been adjudged by the EFL to have adhered to their regulations.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/11702197/championship-clubs-meet-in-nottingham-over-demands-to-see-financial-statements
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: LeeB on April 24, 2019, 12:06:43 PM
Someone needs to tell Steve Gibson that it's his own fault for employing Tiny Penis.

What are they going to do? Angrilly shake their fists at us?
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: PeterWithe on April 24, 2019, 12:07:57 PM
Seems odd that EFL rules can be up for change based on the views of so few clubs.

Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: VinnieChase84 on April 24, 2019, 12:10:22 PM
Weird that when Boro were sitting in 5th and 15 points above us, this didnt seem to be an issue then.................................
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: hilts_coolerking on April 24, 2019, 12:10:48 PM
Have we got anything to hide?
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Nev on April 24, 2019, 12:12:05 PM
It's an odd thing to let clubs view each others accounts, surely the EFL are the arbiters of FFP and whether it has been breached? They should be the only ones carrying out any scrutiny.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Risso on April 24, 2019, 12:13:50 PM
They can log on to Companies House to see our audited accounts, the same as everybody else can.  Anything over and above that would be giving commercially sensitive information to a direct rival, and they can get to fuck.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 24, 2019, 12:18:58 PM
We have either repeatedly told or been repeatedly told that we have not breached the P&S limits.  At least up until the end of March this year.  Any breach uncovered with the latest set of numbers and forecast year end end numbers will be dealt with by the EFL in the summer window - eg if we have now breached we will be subject to punishment.  I don't see what is so difficult to understand about this.  If he is crying foul because we have better accountants then that is a different matter to which the answer is 'tough shit.'
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Axl Rose on April 24, 2019, 12:22:32 PM
They can log on to Companies House to see our audited accounts, the same as everybody else can.  Anything over and above that would be giving commercially sensitive information to a direct rival, and they can get to fuck.

I'm in complete agreement with what you've said here, Risso.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 24, 2019, 12:24:54 PM
Unless he is successful in creating a US style sports franchise regime ( no f***ing chance) then the idea that Clubs would be forced to share non statutory Financial Information is ludicrous.
 Hard luck Steve.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Damo70 on April 24, 2019, 01:29:29 PM
Have we got anything to hide?

I think I have a couple of VHS Ben Dover videos, a Fiesta Readers Wives Special and a Jive Bunny CD somewhere.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Villan For Life on April 24, 2019, 01:45:09 PM
Have we got anything to hide?

I think I have a couple of VHS Ben Dover videos, a Fiesta Readers Wives Special and a Jive Bunny CD somewhere.

A Jive Bunny CD? That's shameful!
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Towser on April 24, 2019, 03:55:20 PM
Voted against it according to twatter
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: themossman on April 24, 2019, 04:07:15 PM
I'd take him more seriously if he hadn't bankrolled success himself and if (as mentioned) he wasn't spouting all this as Boro are on the slide.

I used to quite like him compared to other club owners (yes, very faint praise) but between this and all the southgate is too nice for the game stuff he comes across as a bitter, sanctimonious twerp.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Damo70 on April 24, 2019, 04:22:11 PM
I'd take him more seriously if he hadn't bankrolled success himself and if (as mentioned) he wasn't spouting all this as Boro are on the slide.

I used to quite like him compared to other club owners (yes, very faint praise) but between this and all the southgate is too nice for the game stuff he comes across as a bitter, sanctimonious twerp.

You are right. He built a new ground and brought in the likes of Juninho, Ravenelli, Emerson, Branco. Even when they went down he went out and bought Merson from Arsenal. Now he has decided to tighten his belt and not throw so much money at his club in recent years he wants everyone else to do the same.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: AsTallAsLions on April 24, 2019, 04:24:10 PM
Sap.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 24, 2019, 04:39:25 PM
Have we got anything to hide?

I think I have a couple of VHS Ben Dover videos, a Fiesta Readers Wives Special and a Jive Bunny CD somewhere.

A Jive Bunny CD? That's shameful!

My first ever record
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 24, 2019, 04:40:46 PM
Sap.

I prefer it to Oracle.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: danno on April 24, 2019, 04:44:45 PM
How does one go from bank rolling the signing Ravanelli and Juninho to employing Tony Pulis?

It just makes me think of those gamble responsibly adverts.
Maybe it's time to admit that football just isn't for you Steve.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Damo70 on April 24, 2019, 04:51:25 PM
How does one go from bank rolling the signing Ravanelli and Juninho to employing Tony Pulis?

It just makes me think of those gamble responsibly adverts.
Maybe it's time to admit that football just isn't for you Steve.

The same way one goes about bankrolling the signings of Milner, Young, Carew, Friedel, Petrov to employing Alex McLeish ;)
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 24, 2019, 04:55:47 PM
And as someone on the receiving end of his fantastic customer minded Bulkhaul business he can fuck off for that too.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: olaftab on April 24, 2019, 05:11:04 PM
Have we got anything to hide?
Yes McCormack, Richards and Hutton.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: danno on April 24, 2019, 05:16:30 PM
How does one go from bank rolling the signing Ravanelli and Juninho to employing Tony Pulis?

It just makes me think of those gamble responsibly adverts.
Maybe it's time to admit that football just isn't for you Steve.

The same way one goes about bankrolling the signings of Milner, Young, Carew, Friedel, Petrov to employing Alex McLeish ;)

To be fair to Randy he did have a complete mental breakdown watching the long ball to Heskey on the left wing and start to make statements about walking amongst the Shunammite. 
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: nevillain on April 24, 2019, 05:45:39 PM
Been voted down. Sorry Steve.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 24, 2019, 05:57:45 PM
He's such a hypocrite. Boro owe their parent company (him) nearly £100m, they lost over £30m the season they were promoted with a wage bill that was higher than their total income.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Risso on April 25, 2019, 12:27:07 PM
Ha, unlucky Gibson you utter twonk.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: KRS on April 25, 2019, 12:40:57 PM
SSN reporting that Gibson didn't attend the 5 hour meeting yesterday and Boro declined an invite to inspect Derbys accounts last month.
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: Damo70 on April 25, 2019, 01:34:06 PM
Has he got any more nephews he could flog to bring in some extra cash?
Title: Re: Championship clubs meet in Nottingham over demands to see financial statements
Post by: eddiemunster on April 25, 2019, 02:13:25 PM
Poor old Gibson, now all the other clubs should insist on seeing the accounts at the smog monsters, since the twat took over. Now that would make interesting reading I bet!
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