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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 03, 2019, 08:08:35 PM
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Mine was 1967.
Us 2 Them 4. Barry Bastard Bridges.
I'm sure most of you can do better.
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1975 2-1 win at Villa Park. Chico and Brian Little.
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40 years ago today, my first ever Villa match as an 8 year old, 1-0 win. Sid scored the goal.
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Yesterday was exactly 45 years since my dad took my bother and I to a Second Division match against Albion. Afterwards he said he wouldn't take us to another local derby... So my first Blues game was the 3-0 in the Championship season with my school mates
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Sometime in the 1950's. Buggered if I can remember who won. I remember us beating them at home 6-2 in 1960, Gerry Hitchens got a hat-trick.
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February 1978 - a 1-0 defeat at their place where we literally battered them. Could have scored 5. Hit post and bar on more than one occasion and had a few kicked off the line.
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16 years ago today was the first and only time I've seen us play that lot.
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At the sty in 1980 near the beginning of our title winning season, around September I think. We won 1-2, Frank Worthington scored a penalty for them and Sid with a penalty and Allan Evans volley on the turn won it for us. My bluenose uncle took me as my other uncle who he usually went with was working so I had his season ticket. My uncle sat on one side of me in their main stand and sat the other side of me was Benny from Crossroads.
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Villa 1 Blose 2 - Sept 1976 at VP
A very hot day and we scored first. Andy Gray, I think. John Connelly and Francis for them if I recall correctly.
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Villa 1 Blose 2 - Sept 1976 at VP
A very hot day and we scored first. Andy Gray, I think. John Connelly and Francis for them if I recall correctly.
That was my first derby as well. I was distraught - our only defeat at home that season. They beat us 1-0 at Villa Park the following season too. I didn’t see us beat them until Sid’s winner in 1979.
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03/03/03
Awful.
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1986 I think
They beat us 2-0 I think at VP, we were fucking awful
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Probably the 76/77 home game.
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The 2-1 defeat at home when Barry scored in 90th min.
Couldn’t believe how shit we were and 2-0 down at halftime.
Very next was 3-1 win with Baros scoring and since then I haven’t seen us lose at home to them.
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The 2-1 defeat at home when Barry scored in 90th min.
Couldn’t believe how shit we were and 2-0 down at halftime.
Very next was 3-1 win with Baros scoring and since then I haven’t seen us lose at home to them.
That 2-1 defeat in December 2004...we were absolutely dreadful in that first half. Heskey looked like the world's greatest striker. They were rampant and we could have been 4 or 5 down.
That was my second Blues game.
Third was the Cahill game, fourth was the 5-1. Both helped to eradicate the memories of the previous two, and then some.
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Rag 1 Villa 2 at the sty in 87-88 and me and jcsutv were in the blose end with our uncle, scary stuff but a great result.
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1975 2-1 win Chico and Brian scored with about 50000 at Villa Park.
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3-0 loss at the STY 2002, will never live that one down.
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At their place in the balloons period - we won 1-2 I think, Chico scored? all a bit vague but I remember Tony Butler on the pitch before kickoff getting a lot of stick and a surge where everyone near me fell forward but instead of righting ourselves we got stuck at a 45 ° angle and stayed like it for about 5 minutes. Could have been scary but we were teenagers so just a bit of a laugh.
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Mine was 1967.
Us 2 Them 4. Barry Bastard Bridges.
I'm sure most of you can do better.
Same here. Adding insult to injury, the ITV highlights of the match shown on the Sunday only showed the second half (due to an industrial dispute?) : it had been 2-2 at half time.
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Mine was 1967.
Us 2 Them 4. Barry Bastard Bridges.
I'm sure most of you can do better.
Same here. Adding insult to injury, the ITV highlights of the match shown on the Sunday only showed the second half (due to an industrial dispute?) : it had been 2-2 at half time.
I was at that one too, I was full of hope certain we were going to batter them. Barry fucking Bridges!
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3-0 loss at the STY 2002, will never live that one down.
Same for me.
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0-3 home defeat in the 80’s?
Might have been 85’ or 86’.
Just remember it being shocking and leaving before the end.
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12 April 1969, in the old second division, we won 1-0 at VP, Dave Simmons scoring the only goal. This was during the revival brought about by the new regime, with Tommy Docherty as manager, which saw attendances leap from 12,000 to up around 60,000 in a matter of weeks. The crowd for the Birmingham derby was just under 53,000.
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1975 2-1 win at Villa Park. Chico and Brian Little.
Snap, mine too
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0-3 home defeat in the 80’s?
Might have been 85’ or 86’.
Just remember it being shocking and leaving before the end.
1986 and even though we struggled that season we had picked up a bit by the time of the derby (helped by the signings of Steve Hunt and Andy Blair on deadline day) and when I saw their line up I was convinced we would win comfortably. They had been having an even worse season than us but I think Wayne Clarke got a couple of Steve Whitton scored the other one. Saunders had left a couple of months before and John Bond was in charge of them.
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Rag 1 Villa 2 at the sty in 87-88 and me and jcsutv were in the blose end with our uncle, scary stuff but a great result.
That was my birthday and I was dying from a hangover on the way up from London. Most scared I have been at a game - the crush to get in through a few turnstiles was terrifying.
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Easter 1970, 2-0 away victory with Bruce Rioch scoring. We still went down to the 3rd division though!
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1994 when Paul Tait pushed Kevin Richardson over the hoardings at Villa Park.
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August 1987 lost 2 nil, went up with a mate on the National Express coach and if my memory serves me right it rained towards the end of the game and i got soaked going back to Digbeth to get the coach home to Cambridge...
UTV
The Doc
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August 1987 lost 2 nil, went up with a mate on the National Express coach and if my memory serves me right it rained towards the end of the game and i got soaked going back to Digbeth to get the coach home to Cambridge...
UTV
The Doc
That was my first one too. Tony bastard Rees (who?) With both goals.
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McGraths testimonial in 1995.
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The boxing day massacre at the sty, 82 or 83.
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1975 2-1 win at Villa Park. Chico and Brian Little.
September the 7th, I think. They had the bloody cheek to score first too. First few minutes if I remember correctly.
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The season we won the League (Home Game) . I remember watching Match of the Day later on and Jimmy Hill saying he hadn't seen a derby game played at such a frantic pace.
I also went to Ron Saunders Testimonial game which I think was after that league game ?
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Strangely I didn't see a game against them until the away game in the League Cup in 1988.
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August 1987 lost 2 nil, went up with a mate on the National Express coach and if my memory serves me right it rained towards the end of the game and i got soaked going back to Digbeth to get the coach home to Cambridge...
UTV
The Doc
That was my first one too. Tony bastard Rees (who?) With both goals.
It was fuckin' horrible. Uber 'nose Pendry in the dug out and that lot celebrating. Sir Graham slammed the team, "more agression in a team of nuns" was the phrase he used.
My first was '83, waterlogged pitch, McMahon v Blake, sitting in the Trinity paddock and learning the words to the Villa version of Bachelor Boy.
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Away leg, Coca Cola Cup 1993. Bosnich saved a penalty and Rico scored late on for us.
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Villa Park .... 1981 0-0
Temple of doom.... Boxing day 82
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August 1987 lost 2 nil, went up with a mate on the National Express coach and if my memory serves me right it rained towards the end of the game and i got soaked going back to Digbeth to get the coach home to Cambridge...
UTV
The Doc
That was my first one too. Tony bastard Rees (who?) With both goals.
It was fuckin' horrible. Uber 'nose Pendry in the dug out and that lot celebrating. Sir Graham slammed the team, "more agression in a team of nuns" was the phrase he used.
My first was '83, waterlogged pitch, McMahon v Blake, sitting in the Trinity paddock and learning the words to the Villa version of Bachelor Boy.
I do remember SGT slaughtering the team in his post match interviews. I think the Small Heath game was his first home game in charge. I don't recall him calling the players nuns but I do recall him saying they played like a bunch of schoolgirls. I strongly suspect he was self censoring himself in the media and that in the dressing room they were being called a hell of a lot worse than nuns and schoolgirls.
As a twelve year old I thought the 1983 game was great. I think Small Heath had started the season slightly better than us and their fans were giving it the big 'un on BRMB on the Friday night before the game. We had just got our first video recorder and I think the first thing I taped was the brief highlights from Central News on the Monday night. The goal, the sending off, Blake's phantom goal he thought he had scored, his penalty miss and his headbutt on McMahon. Ron Saunders fell out big time with Central for showing the Blake/McMahon incident and I think he banned them or tried to ban them from St. Andrew's.
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Sept 1968; Small Heath 4, Villa 0.
It was 0-0 after an hour.
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03/03/03. Thankfully things eventually got better.
Too young for the cup game in the early 90s.
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Bloody hell, it seems like most people's first experience was a loss!
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This abomination
I was 11 and it was the first time I'd ever seen people I didn't know extremely angry up close. My Dad wasn't best pleased either.
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My God that was most unpleasant to watch.
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1 - 0 home win in the cup Deano scoring. I was pretty young and don’t remember much of the game, in fact all I remember from the night was the goal and celebrating wildly. My Mom and I took up our normal season ticket seats in the back row lower Witton Lane in the block right next to that lot from what I can remember but don’t recall any trouble.
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Bloody hell, that 0-3 was mine too. My friend had got us tickets in the Upper Trinity. An awful game. I think that's the first time I've ever seen the highlights, I'd forgotten how shambolic our defending was for the goals.
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My first at the sty was a pre season friendly and ended 0-0. I’m sure Savo was playing and missed a sitter. We were just stunned at how shit the stadium and facilities were. I also remember the Villa fans hid the match ball during play and was held up for a while as they couldn’t find another one.
“One ball, you’ve only got one ball”
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Sept 1968; Small Heath 4, Villa 0.
It was 0-0 after an hour.
That was my first visit there age 11. Sat with my Dad in the stand on the side which is still there to this day. I'd been to a few aways by then..Deepdale, Anfield, Maine Road, Baseball Ground, Burnden Park, Bloomfield Road. I can honestly say even then I was struck by what a run down nasty ramshackle shit hole it was compared with any other ground I had been to.
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This abomination
I was 11 and it was the first time I'd ever seen people I didn't know extremely angry up close. My Dad wasn't best pleased either.
Have they ever scored a goal against us that wasn't either scrappy as fuck or a glaring error from one of our own?
Actually, their 2nd against us earlier in the season is about the best I've seen.
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This abomination
I was 11 and it was the first time I'd ever seen people I didn't know extremely angry up close. My Dad wasn't best pleased either.
Have they ever scored a goal against us that wasn't either scrappy as fuck or a glaring error from one of our own?
Actually, their 2nd against us earlier in the season is about the best I've seen.
I didn't even know there was TV footage of that game. I certainly can't recall seeing it before. I was at the match but apart from that I don't think I have ever seen the goals.
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League Championship season at home.
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This abomination
I was 11 and it was the first time I'd ever seen people I didn't know extremely angry up close. My Dad wasn't best pleased either.
Have they ever scored a goal against us that wasn't either scrappy as fuck or a glaring error from one of our own?
Actually, their 2nd against us earlier in the season is about the best I've seen.
Especially in comparison with some of our goals v them, their efforts looks decidedly shit.
I never knew that clip existed until this thread was started. I don't know if that's a good thing...
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St Andrews 1969, end of season that we were relegated into the third division, we went there and battered them 2-0 with a 25 yard thunderbolt from Bruce Rioch and another from Pat McMahon.
We played in our yellow shirts and blue shorts kit and I remember standing on the Cattell Road side of the ground, amongst Blues and Villa fans in the pouring rain, which hardly ebated throughout the match, cascading off the top of the corrugated iron stand and soaking all underneath.
The toilets at the back of the stand were flooded, sending torrents down the delapadated terracing.
This, I think, was the first appearance of the Villa chant of "What a fecking p*sshole", that continues to this day and gets an airing from all who suffer the facilities at the Sty.
Villa were awful but probably turned in their best performance that year, Blues were also down near the bottom but just survived the drop.
I had to wait awhile before we played them again.
I do hate this fixture.
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Same game as you Oscar. I can remember a shocking crush to get in with so many Villa fans going.
Fantastic goal by Rioch I recall, celebrated by a large group of Villa fans behind the goal in the Tilton.
Much scrapping ensued which was fascinating to a 9 year old. I can see why I wasn't allowed to go to a Derby before that.
Don't go up the Cattell road, cos you'll get foot and mouth!
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In light of last Sunday's events up there. I went to that game in 1969 with my then next door neighbours, father and three sons; every one of them Noses and all good men. We stood on the Kop me being Villa and all around me Blues. I shouted and roared for the Villa and was as happy as a dog with two cocks when we won and never, in the entire time I was in there felt in the slightest bit threatened and never had in the many, many times I'd been in there. I think it was only in the early seventies did it start to become menacing and we all began to herd together in numbers for safety. That's how I remember it anyway.
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My first visit there was when we beat them 1-2 in our Championship winning season with Sid scoring a penalty and Allan Evans getting the winner. I was nine and maybe it was due to my youth and naivety but I don't recall any tension or nastiness. My second visit there was Boxing Day 1982 and as a twelve year old I was old enough to comprehend how toxic the atmosphere was that day.
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Saunders testimonial the season before
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The first derby I attended was at Villa Park around 1969. All I remember was that it finished 0-0, Blues played in an all white kit, Tony Hateley played up front for them and I was still at primary school.
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My one and only time was Villa Park 2010, the Milner penalty.
Though I did go to the Sty for a charity match around 2004 or 2005. Small Heath were about 8-0 up against a charity XI when I made the mistake of laughing and clapping sportingly when Darren from The Royle Family scored a consolation for the Celebrities and went rolling around with no shirt on to celebrate.
I was then promptly asked to leave by a steward.
As I was marched out I had drinks thrown at me, and was shoved and called a 'pikey Villa ******' by a different steward who must've been in his 50s (I was about 15).
It was nice to see they take no days off from their hatred of us. God knows what they do for red nose day, a charity effigy-burning perhaps.
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They don't do anything for Red Nose Day. When it comes to comedy they have contributed plenty of it over the years and when it comes to giving and sharing they have given or shared loads of points with the Villa since 2005.
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They don't do anything for Red Nose Day. When it comes to comedy they have contributed plenty of it over the years and when it comes to giving and sharing they have given or shared loads of points with the Villa since 2005.
I guess they have to make up for Jasper Carrott somehow.
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December 1980
Villa 3 Blues 0
"Merry Christmas Birmingham"
"Meeerrry Christ-mas Bir-mingham!"
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VP 1977 Bertschin for them
Sty 1978 Francis for them
Thankfully things improved after that !
I do remember that first Sty visit and thinking WTF seeing that wasteland full of rubble behind the Tilton. My Dad insisted on leaving early so we could make a quick getaway down the Cov Road !
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At the sty. 1-0 to us. Andy Gray scored it. 1978 and I think the first time we beat them for a while.
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2-1 1975, though don't remember much about the game.
The first I really remember is the 1-0 away defeat to a Trevor Francis goal in 1979 when Montgomery almost single handedly won the game.
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The Christmas 1982 debacle at the Sty, we were in the Railway End. Horrible.
First win was a few months later at VP, Gary Shaw I think.
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The Christmas 1982 debacle at the Sty, we were in the Railway End. Horrible.
First win was a few months later at VP, Gary Shaw I think.
Those two games were the second and third Villa/Small Heath games I attended. The atmosphere at the sty was toxic. Blake was getting pelters and "Villa reject" shouted at him and then he scored one of their goals. I remember the Evening Mail showing a picture of him flicking the V sign to the Villa fans after his goal with the headline 'Rejects revenge'. The only thing I recall of the return game at Villa Park is that Gary Shaw's winning goal came late on in the game. The last ten minutes I think.
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The Christmas 1982 debacle at the Sty, we were in the Railway End. Horrible.
First win was a few months later at VP, Gary Shaw I think.
Was the Christmas one 3-0 to them? 3 is the most I've seen them put past us. Meanwhile Ive seen us put 6 past them, 5 a couple of times and a 4.
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The Christmas 1982 debacle at the Sty, we were in the Railway End. Horrible.
First win was a few months later at VP, Gary Shaw I think.
Was the Christmas one 3-0 to them? 3 is the most I've seen them put past us. Meanwhile Ive seen us put 6 past them, 5 a couple of times and a 4.
Yup, the Boxing Day defeat was 3-0.
I think Gary Shaw's winner a few months later was on Easter Monday. Imagine that fixture being played on a bank holiday now?!
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Unless there is a friendly which I've forgotten, the first was the Paul Tait/Dean Saunders game. I also saw a few reserve/youth type matches against them. We lost more of those than we won, as I recall.
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The turning point of the 3-0 was when Villa 'equalised' when Withe headed in Walters's cross, only for the ref to disallow the goal for a foul -on Walters!!
Yes, even then...
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2-1 home win in 1975. I've watched the highlights on Youtube. Some of the challenges make you wince.
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It wasn't my first game against them and it wasn't even the first time I had seen us play them at the sty but I remember going there for a Birmingham Senior Cup final around 1983. It was on the same day as the Charity Shield at Wembley I think and a week before the season kicked off. There was a big crowd for a 'friendly' but obviously not as many as for a league game. I recall both clubs fielded their strongest teams. All I can remember other than that is that it was a hot day and Ian Handysides scored the only goal of the game.
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It wasn't my first game against them and it wasn't even the first time I had seen us play them at the sty but I remember going there for a Birmingham Senior Cup final around 1983. It was on the same day as the Charity Shield at Wembley I think and a week before the season kicked off. There was a big crowd for a 'friendly' but obviously not as many as for a league game. I recall both clubs fielded their strongest teams. All I can remember other than that is that it was a hot day and Ian Handysides scored the only goal of the game.
Damo, I was thrown out that day and told I would be charged wi5 threatening words and behaviour. I think I was doing the Howard Gayle, what a wanker thing with hand gestures. The police were picking people off one by one but I was too righteous and stubborn to move. When I got outside there must have been about 200 of us who’d been thrown out. I recall a spicy march back to town after the game.
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A pre-season friendly. I think 1971 or 72 could be later, I was very young. I might have it wrong but I'm sure Malcolm Beard who we'd signed from Blues played a half for each team. We won 2-1 I think. I also remember seeing fisticuffs in the Holte from my Witton End position.
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The Christmas 1982 debacle at the Sty, we were in the Railway End. Horrible.
First win was a few months later at VP, Gary Shaw I think.
Was the Christmas one 3-0 to them? 3 is the most I've seen them put past us. Meanwhile Ive seen us put 6 past them, 5 a couple of times and a 4.
Yup, the Boxing Day defeat was 3-0.
I think Gary Shaw's winner a few months later was on Easter Monday. Imagine that fixture being played on a bank holiday now?!
I was at the game when Gary Cahill scored against them and if my memory is correct I think that was played on Easter Sunday
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The Christmas 1982 debacle at the Sty, we were in the Railway End. Horrible.
First win was a few months later at VP, Gary Shaw I think.
Was the Christmas one 3-0 to them? 3 is the most I've seen them put past us. Meanwhile Ive seen us put 6 past them, 5 a couple of times and a 4.
Yup, the Boxing Day defeat was 3-0.
I think Gary Shaw's winner a few months later was on Easter Monday. Imagine that fixture being played on a bank holiday now?!
I was at the game when Gary Cahill scored against them and if my memory is correct I think that was played on Easter Sunday
It was. I was dragged sofa shopping the next day. I sat on every settee we looked at, not out of interest but as a result of the crippling hangover I was lugging around.
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The Christmas 1982 debacle at the Sty, we were in the Railway End. Horrible.
First win was a few months later at VP, Gary Shaw I think.
Was the Christmas one 3-0 to them? 3 is the most I've seen them put past us. Meanwhile Ive seen us put 6 past them, 5 a couple of times and a 4.
Yup, the Boxing Day defeat was 3-0.
I think Gary Shaw's winner a few months later was on Easter Monday. Imagine that fixture being played on a bank holiday now?!
I was at the game when Gary Cahill scored against them and if my memory is correct I think that was played on Easter Sunday
It was. I was dragged sofa shopping the next day. I sat on every settee we looked at, not out of interest but as a result of the crippling hangover I was lugging around.
I went with a mate of mine I worked with, a big Villa fan called Dave (who your Dad would have known) and after the game I ended up drinking with him and his family in his local in Kings Heath. He had two very attractive sisters.
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I was a kid no money got in for last 30 mins, early 60s holts end 6 2 I think l remember Stan lynn scoring
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As an indication of my devotion to her, I invited my then fiancee to her first derby match in the 81/82 season at St
Andrews. As a date it wasn't wildly successful - we somehow got trapped on the wasteland behind the Tilton Rd end dodging stones being lobbed at the Villa fans queuing to get in. Later we ended up in one of the usual ambushes on the way back into town and had to leg it.On the bright side Peter Withe won us the game! Years later we inadvertently got caught up in a riot in Paris which she declared to be nothing compared to her day out in Small Heath which remains her go to maximum on the fear barometer.
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As an indication of my devotion to her, I invited my then fiancee to her first derby match in the 81/82 season at St
Andrews. As a date it wasn't wildly successful - we somehow got trapped on the wasteland behind the Tilton Rd end dodging stones being lobbed at the Villa fans queuing to get in. Later we ended up in one of the usual ambushes on the way back into town and had to leg it.On the bright side Peter Withe won us the game! Years later we inadvertently got caught up in a riot in Paris which she declared to be nothing compared to her day out in Small Heath which remains her go to maximum on the fear barometer.
I wasn't at that game for some reason. Did Ron Saunders actually take his place on the bench that day or was he just watching from the stands? I know he had accepted the job but I can't recall if he had officially taken over in time to take charge of them that day.
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I was a kid no money got in for last 30 mins, early 60s holts end 6 2 I think l remember Stan lynn scoring
Sure it's not this one - which was my first ??
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Alan O'Neill signed from Sunderland I think score 2 on his debut. Peter Mac and a Gerry H hat-trick
In number order
Sims
Neal (rep. Lynn)
Winton
Thomson (rep. Crowe)
Dugdale
Saward
MacEwan
O'Neill
Hitchens
Wylie
McParland
Probably the last time I saw Gerry play in the flesh. Still the best no. 9 I ever saw play. That season ?? 42 goals in 56 appeareances.
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Oh how I remember that match and yes, two of my all-time heroes: Gerry Hitchens and Peter Mac.
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That was the first Villa/Small Heath derby game I ever took my wife to.
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As an indication of my devotion to her, I invited my then fiancee to her first derby match in the 81/82 season at St
Andrews. As a date it wasn't wildly successful - we somehow got trapped on the wasteland behind the Tilton Rd end dodging stones being lobbed at the Villa fans queuing to get in. Later we ended up in one of the usual ambushes on the way back into town and had to leg it.On the bright side Peter Withe won us the game! Years later we inadvertently got caught up in a riot in Paris which she declared to be nothing compared to her day out in Small Heath which remains her go to maximum on the fear barometer.
I wasn't at that game for some reason. Did Ron Saunders actually take his place on the bench that day or was he just watching from the stands? I know he had accepted the job but I can't recall if he had officially taken over in time to take charge of them that day.
Iirc he signed his contract on the pitch pre kick off Damo!
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Not my first game but I was on the Holte End the night we beat them in the Simod Cup 6-0. 9th November 1988. Which happened to be my eighteenth birthday. I still have the club match video somewhere in my house.
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First Blues Villa game Feb 1968 at St Andrews, lost 2-1 think Bridges got both, me and my Dad managed to end up in with the Blues fans with my Dad chatting away with them, very different times.