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Title: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Confusious says on February 18, 2019, 01:49:09 PM
Has anyone noticed the ambiguous titles that our supposedly local newspaper (Evening Mail)is spouting especially on social media just
to get people to click on them so I believe they can get more advertising revenue by more clicks. The outrageous bating of rival fans against each other also the shit stirring about our own players is unhelpful. What a shame they don’t promote the regions clubs in a fair light & resort to more harmonious & supportive comments, I will never forget the piece done when they went overboard trying to suggest the Villa team gave a Natzi salute to hitler. They appear to have an agenda to be controversial
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Storing trouble
Post by: tomd2103 on February 18, 2019, 02:08:03 PM
Has anyone noticed the ambiguous titles that our supposedly local newspaper (Evening Mail)is spouting especially on social media just
to get people to click on them so I believe they can get more advertising revenue by more clicks. The outrageous bating of rival fans against each other also the shit stirring about our own players is unhelpful. What a shame they don’t promote the regions clubs in a fair light & resort to more harmonious & supportive comments, I will never forget the piece done when they went overboard trying to suggest the Villa team gave a Natzi salute to hitler. They appear to have an agenda to be controversial

File alongside P. Franks, Radio WM.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Storing trouble
Post by: eamonn on February 18, 2019, 02:26:07 PM
To store or to stir, that is the question.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Storing trouble
Post by: Des Little on February 18, 2019, 02:31:40 PM
The Mail, like the Mercury and Radio WM are all from a bygone age.  I have absolutely no idea why anybody would click/buy/listen to any of them.  Obsolete as a form of credible news.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: wince on February 18, 2019, 05:58:00 PM
Does anybody buy this rag  or worse go on their web site? The former seems full of sad faced compo pictures and the latter is like visiting the second circle of hell. Total toss excuse of a news paper. And wm is there for the likes of me who rely on the commentary but other than that, white noise is more informative. At least white noise doesn't annoy as much as "beanie hat" franks
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 18, 2019, 06:14:47 PM
Headlines like “ villa fans won’t like this pundits view “.  Oh do please fuck off
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: BC Villain on February 18, 2019, 06:16:57 PM
Bill Howells "send us the bill for your broken chairs" article tells you all you need to know about that rag
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: CT Villan on February 18, 2019, 08:41:46 PM
Most, if not all of them are like that and have been for a while. I used to check the Villa news at NewsNow, but the headlines are nothing but clickbait, so I don't bother anymore. I just come straight to H&V instead.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rigadon on February 18, 2019, 10:12:00 PM
The only time I look is when people on here post links to stuff.  Without that I would literally never think of visiting. 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rigadon on February 18, 2019, 10:13:24 PM
....and, every time it looks and feels like some 'give me sport' style hideousness that makes my eyes hurt
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Legion on February 18, 2019, 10:22:16 PM
Awful site. Awful publication. Awful so-called journalist in Greg(g?) Evans.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: eamonn on February 19, 2019, 08:42:52 AM
Kendrick took good for 'em.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: AVH87 on February 19, 2019, 10:37:46 AM
Prefer the E and S coverage for a local source, shouldn't be the case that a Wolverhampton based paper is better than a Birmingham one for us.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Risso on February 19, 2019, 11:05:13 AM
Prefer the E and S coverage for a local source, shouldn't be the case that a Wolverhampton based paper is better than a Birmingham one for us.

Was just about to make the same point.  I find their reports are always decent and balanced, unlike our local rag.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pooligan on February 19, 2019, 11:43:45 AM
I am amazed how the Mail stays in business , i used to have a weekend copy sent up here to Liverpool just to keep in touch with events back home .I  cancelled at the start of this season as it just was not worth the cost The mail in my opinion has gone down hill since it was taken over by the owners of the Mirror
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on February 19, 2019, 12:04:25 PM
I work in publishing and the traditional newspapers are dying - they're just wringing out the last scraps of income by any means possible. That generally means provocative and clickbate style content and headlines.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 19, 2019, 12:14:30 PM
Has anyone noticed the ambiguous titles that our supposedly local newspaper (Evening Mail)is spouting especially on social media just
to get people to click on them

That's basically what most news organisations do on the internet.

The mail is particularly bad, though, totally agree.

The Mail is basically a tsunami of utterly fucking witless clickbait which, when you click through, will lead you to a page absolutely festooned with intrusive advertising (including video which counts down to an autoplay), and content that bears little or no relation to the headline you clicked through, and is usually just some nonsense lifted from Twitter / Youtube / elsewhere on the internet.

For example, they'll spot a few Villa fans on Twitter saying how well Mings played last week. That then becomes a clickbait headline of "Aston Villa fans amazed by player" or some-such, which when you follow basically consists of a paragraph about Mings plus four or five twitter quotes from fans saying he's really good.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 19, 2019, 12:30:39 PM
"You'll never believe what Villa fans are saying about this player"
"Aston Villa star gives an update on his availability - and the supporters will want to hear it"
"The news all Villa fans have been desperate to hear"
"Stoke City legend gives his blunt verdict on Aston Villa - and he's right"
"The Aston Villa news that every supporter has been dreading"
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: phantom limb on February 19, 2019, 12:48:28 PM
The best is when they make an article by quoting random people from Twitter with their thoughts. I can go on Twitter for myself thanks, and more importantly who cares?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: darren woolley on February 19, 2019, 01:26:28 PM
How come they are so biased towards us we are the biggest club in the Midlands and the one with the biggest fan base that's fact you would think they would be more of a Villa based paper which would increase circulation of there paper I just don't get it not very good business practic to alienate it's readers.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 19, 2019, 01:31:38 PM
Most, if not all of them are like that and have been for a while. I used to check the Villa news at NewsNow, but the headlines are nothing but clickbait, so I don't bother anymore. I just come straight to H&V instead.

HITC is the worst.  'Dean Smith Gives a Very Honest Assessment of Villa's squad.....and Villa fans won't like it.'  Click on it and it says something like 'I didn't think we pressed them enough in the 2nd half.'
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Risso on February 19, 2019, 01:35:52 PM
How come they are so biased towards us we are the biggest club in the Midlands and the one with the biggest fan base that's fact you would think they would be more of a Villa based paper which would increase circulation of there paper I just don't get it not very good business practic to alienate it's readers.

They probably have research that shows that people are more likely to click on something that annoys them than something they agree with.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 19, 2019, 01:36:17 PM
"You'll never believe what Villa fans are saying about this player"
"Aston Villa star gives an update on his availability - and the supporters will want to hear it"
"The news all Villa fans have been desperate to hear"
"Stoke City legend gives his blunt verdict on Aston Villa - and he's right"
"The Aston Villa news that every supporter has been dreading"


With the last one being an update on Kozak.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 19, 2019, 07:56:30 PM
It is a bit like Club Call used to be in the 90's.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: brian green on February 19, 2019, 08:07:12 PM
It has been a shit newspaper ever since we used to have to use it as bog paper back before toilet rolls.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Man With A Stick on February 19, 2019, 08:10:31 PM
It is a bit like Club Call used to be in the 90's.

"VILLA SWOOP FOR WORLD CUP STAR" 0898 12 11 48

Phone them up and it's John fucking Fashanu, who admittedly did a USA '94 commentary stint on Nigerian TV.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 19, 2019, 11:52:35 PM
Great example

Click bait text = "Ashamed’ - Why Frederic Guilbert is furious after Aston Villa transfer"

Click through article: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ashamed-frederic-guilbert-furious-after-15855916.amp

Precis: he is angry because his current club, Caen, are shit.

I'd be interested to hear Gregg Evans or Steve Wollaston defend misleading rubbish like that.

In fact, I'll ask them.

Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: tomd2103 on February 20, 2019, 12:17:05 AM
Great example

Click bait text = "Ashamed’ - Why Frederic Guilbert is furious after Aston Villa transfer"

Click through article: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ashamed-frederic-guilbert-furious-after-15855916.amp

Precis: he is angry because his current club, Caen, are shit.

I'd be interested to hear Gregg Evans or Steve Wollaston defend misleading rubbish like that.

In fact, I'll ask them.

Gregg Evans is an Albion fan, but what about Steve Wollaston?  He is always having a dig at us. 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: adrenachrome on February 20, 2019, 12:35:53 AM
Great example

Click bait text = "Ashamed’ - Why Frederic Guilbert is furious after Aston Villa transfer"

Click through article: Shitefest

Precis: he is angry because his current club, Caen, are shit.

I'd be interested to hear Gregg Evans or Steve Wollaston defend misleading rubbish like that.

In fact, I'll ask them.



Great, another link to the shitefest. Probably worth 28 clicks.

If you ever go there disable Javascript in your browser or better yet use Tor which has Noscript as default.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Steve67 on February 20, 2019, 12:30:53 PM
Vital Villa is just as bad. The Mail is shit, misleading and antagonistic. A bit like Radio WM.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on February 20, 2019, 12:50:25 PM
Has anyone noticed the ambiguous titles that our supposedly local newspaper (Evening Mail)is spouting especially on social media just
to get people to click on them

That's basically what most news organisations do on the internet.

The mail is particularly bad, though, totally agree.

The Mail is basically a tsunami of utterly fucking witless clickbait which, when you click through, will lead you to a page absolutely festooned with intrusive advertising (including video which counts down to an autoplay), and content that bears little or no relation to the headline you clicked through, and is usually just some nonsense lifted from Twitter / Youtube / elsewhere on the internet.

For example, they'll spot a few Villa fans on Twitter saying how well Mings played last week. That then becomes a clickbait headline of "Aston Villa fans amazed by player" or some-such, which when you follow basically consists of a paragraph about Mings plus four or five twitter quotes from fans saying he's really good.


Why and how is it that whatever volume I have my laptop set to any autoplay ad blasts out at me even louder than any music I play with my speakers connected and turned up to eleven?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on February 20, 2019, 01:22:51 PM
Even posting a link will help them - every website link to another website will add to the credibility of that site in Googles evaluation. I would imagine a backlink from Heroes and Villains would be worth having (unless this site automatically marks the link as a No Follow to tell google to ignore it)
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: CT on February 20, 2019, 07:30:49 PM
It is a bit like Club Call used to be in the 90's.

"VILLA SWOOP FOR WORLD CUP STAR" 0898 12 11 48

Phone them up and it's John fucking Fashanu, who admittedly did a USA '94 commentary stint on Nigerian TV.

0898 121148. This has just made me laugh so much. I remember when the first itemised phone bills started to come out and my Mum being stunned at that number appearing countless times on the bill.

She thought it was a sex line. Really it was a recorded message to say Ian Olney was getting back to full fitness after playing a reserve game.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on February 20, 2019, 08:50:58 PM
It is a bit like Club Call used to be in the 90's.

"VILLA SWOOP FOR WORLD CUP STAR" 0898 12 11 48

Phone them up and it's John fucking Fashanu, who admittedly did a USA '94 commentary stint on Nigerian TV.

0898 121148. This has just made me laugh so much. I remember when the first itemised phone bills started to come out and my Mum being stunned at that number appearing countless times on the bill.

She thought it was a sex line. Really it was a recorded message to say Ian Olney was getting back to full fitness after playing a reserve game.


I doubt even a permanently horny and hormonal teenage lad would find talk of Ian Olney sexually arousing. He had a head like Robbie Rotten off of Lazytown.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 21, 2019, 12:01:35 PM
Has anyone noticed the ambiguous titles that our supposedly local newspaper (Evening Mail)is spouting especially on social media just
to get people to click on them

That's basically what most news organisations do on the internet.

The mail is particularly bad, though, totally agree.

The Mail is basically a tsunami of utterly fucking witless clickbait which, when you click through, will lead you to a page absolutely festooned with intrusive advertising (including video which counts down to an autoplay), and content that bears little or no relation to the headline you clicked through, and is usually just some nonsense lifted from Twitter / Youtube / elsewhere on the internet.

For example, they'll spot a few Villa fans on Twitter saying how well Mings played last week. That then becomes a clickbait headline of "Aston Villa fans amazed by player" or some-such, which when you follow basically consists of a paragraph about Mings plus four or five twitter quotes from fans saying he's really good.

You missed out the stories about a really great new restaurant/hotel/block of flats just opening.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 21, 2019, 12:23:43 PM
It is a bit like Club Call used to be in the 90's.

"VILLA SWOOP FOR WORLD CUP STAR" 0898 12 11 48

Phone them up and it's John fucking Fashanu, who admittedly did a USA '94 commentary stint on Nigerian TV.

0898 121148. This has just made me laugh so much. I remember when the first itemised phone bills started to come out and my Mum being stunned at that number appearing countless times on the bill.

She thought it was a sex line. Really it was a recorded message to say Ian Olney was getting back to full fitness after playing a reserve game.

This explains the short orgasmic grunt that used to proceed the singing of his name.

 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on February 21, 2019, 05:50:00 PM
It is a bit like Club Call used to be in the 90's.

"VILLA SWOOP FOR WORLD CUP STAR" 0898 12 11 48

Phone them up and it's John fucking Fashanu, who admittedly did a USA '94 commentary stint on Nigerian TV.

0898 121148. This has just made me laugh so much. I remember when the first itemised phone bills started to come out and my Mum being stunned at that number appearing countless times on the bill.

She thought it was a sex line. Really it was a recorded message to say Ian Olney was getting back to full fitness after playing a reserve game.

This explains the short orgasmic grunt that used to proceed the singing of his name.

Some people used to grunt 'Uh Ian Olney' and others plumped for a slightly camp 'Ooh Ian Olney' similar in style to Paul Whitehouse and Mark Williams Fast Show tailors.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Confusious says on February 21, 2019, 08:03:01 PM
It seems from most the posts on here that the paper will not change it’s spots, I think I can recall when Karen Brady was at small heath she thought there was similar anti feeling published about them.
She had a meeting with them threatening to call on all their fans not to buy the rag also any business advertisers not to use them, I think it helped their cause. Maybe Purslow ought to try something!!!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Moose on February 21, 2019, 09:58:27 PM
Just ignore them. They are irrelevant.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 21, 2019, 10:01:45 PM
It is a bit like Club Call used to be in the 90's.

"VILLA SWOOP FOR WORLD CUP STAR" 0898 12 11 48

Phone them up and it's John fucking Fashanu, who admittedly did a USA '94 commentary stint on Nigerian TV.

0898 121148. This has just made me laugh so much. I remember when the first itemised phone bills started to come out and my Mum being stunned at that number appearing countless times on the bill.

She thought it was a sex line. Really it was a recorded message to say Ian Olney was getting back to full fitness after playing a reserve game.


i listened to a friendly v Monaco on it woops ! we won 2 nil mind
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 21, 2019, 10:11:36 PM
‘I cannot even speak.’ Frederick Guilbert explains why he is livid after Aston Villa transfer.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 21, 2019, 10:27:29 PM
‘I cannot even speak.’ Frederick Guilbert explains why he is livid after Aston Villa transfer.


yes I saw that but didn't bite ,  what was it about ?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 21, 2019, 10:37:47 PM
Great example

Click bait text = "Ashamed’ - Why Frederic Guilbert is furious after Aston Villa transfer"

Click through article: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/ashamed-frederic-guilbert-furious-after-15855916.amp

Precis: he is angry because his current club, Caen, are shit.

I'd be interested to hear Gregg Evans or Steve Wollaston defend misleading rubbish like that.

In fact, I'll ask them.


Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 24, 2019, 02:24:34 PM
‘Many Villa hearts will shatter after Journo updates their chances of signing 25 year old.’

Alan Nixon three word tweet ‘won’t be cheap.’
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 24, 2019, 02:39:31 PM
They show themselves up as what they are, a bunch of syphilitic parasites, bottom feeding muckrakers. (Phrase curtesy of Robert Downey Jr after his interview with that err bottom feeding muckraker from channel 4 news). Mind you, I don't think even he's as massively punchable as Gregg Evans.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 16, 2019, 03:07:51 PM
Love how they’re so with us all the time.

Manchester United have been linked with a double swoop for Aston Villa pair Jack Grealish and John McGinn.

According to ESPN, Red Bull Salzburg striker Erling Haaland tops a January hit-list that includes Grealish and McGinn as well as Borussia Dortmund's Jadon Sancho, Leicester City's James Maddison, Declan Rice of West Ham United, AFC Bournemouth striker Callum Wilson and Lyon forward Moussa Dembele.

The report adds that United have cash to spend in the New Year and that they are keen on reinforcing a depleted squad that saw midfielder Ander Herrera depart for Paris Saint-Germain and Romelu Lukaku and Alexis Sanchez leave Old Trafford for Inter Milan in the summer.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on November 16, 2019, 04:41:46 PM
And of course the media expect Villa, Salzburg, Dortmund, Leicester, West Ham, Bournemouth and Lyon to cave in and sell their best players to Manure. When she was a bit younger my youngest daughter used to tick off pretty much every toy in the Argus catologue for Christmas. She never got them all just like United will fail with most of their targets.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Steve67 on November 16, 2019, 08:34:00 PM
Crap rag.  Better ignored, almost as bad as The Sun, which is also a disgrace.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Kimaster1976 on November 16, 2019, 08:45:41 PM
If I dont click on all these links to Villa stories online though how will i find out what Villa rent a quote expert Noel Whelan has to say about it?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave shelley on November 16, 2019, 09:01:17 PM
Fuck me, that's half the Premier League.  Idiots.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 16, 2019, 09:07:23 PM
If I dont click on all these links to Villa stories online though how will i find out what Villa rent a quote expert Noel Whelan has to say about it?

Glad I’m not the only one who’s noticed his incessant, inane ramblings.  What is the point of him?!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: West Derby Villan on November 16, 2019, 11:26:34 PM
If I dont click on all these links to Villa stories online though how will i find out what Villa rent a quote expert Noel Whelan has to say about it?

Glad I’m not the only one who’s noticed his incessant, inane ramblings.  What is the point of him?!

Shite, click bait, embarrassing rag acknowledged by ALL supporters in our city, (what the fuck has noel whelan got to do with Birmingham anyway)
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on November 17, 2019, 02:35:38 PM
There is a very good football book by Rick Gekoski called 'Staying Up - A Fan Behind The Scenes In The Premiership'. It focuses on Coventry's 1997-1998 season and Noel Whelan is portrayed as being a right twat by the author. It is actually a very good football book. I gave it to the Coventry supporting physio who helped me to walk again when I was told I would need a walking frame for the rest of my life and wrote my appreciation of her inside the cover. On a random note she was the dead spit of Sandi Toskvig.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Mister E on November 17, 2019, 03:17:57 PM
There is a very good football book by Rick Gekoski called 'Staying Up - A Fan Behind The Scenes In The Premiership'. It focuses on Coventry's 1997-1998 season and Noel Whelan is portrayed as being a right twat by the author. It is actually a very good football book. I gave it to the Coventry supporting physio who helped me to walk again when I was told I would need a walking frame for the rest of my life and wrote my appreciation of her inside the cover. On a random note she was the dead spit of Sandi Toskvig.
Cov played in Scotland? - how does that work?!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 17, 2019, 03:47:43 PM
It was the Premiership, with a variety of add-on monikers, until as surprisingly late as 2007.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on November 17, 2019, 06:43:26 PM
Crap rag.  Better ignored, almost as bad as The Sun, which is also a disgrace.
I dunno. Without photosynthesis we would be fucked.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 17, 2019, 06:46:07 PM
It must be a shit paper when both us and the Noses moan about it - they always call it a Villa paper and anti-Blues while we moan about it for just generally being shit.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on November 18, 2019, 05:33:14 PM
I see the BM are showing their usual backing for the local club by trotting out the McGinn to Yanited rumour (which they started) in todays issue.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 19, 2019, 12:52:09 AM
It must be a shit paper when both us and the Noses moan about it - they always call it a Villa paper and anti-Blues while we moan about it for just generally being shit.

The difference is that we can point to stories showing us in a bad light on a daily basis while all they can say is "Evrebodee hates us an luvs da Vile."
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Villafirst on November 19, 2019, 07:38:16 PM
That rag is really pissing me off now. Day in day out constantly touting McGinn and Jack to Man Utd!! Why don't they keep linking Neves and Jimenez instead ? Anti-Villa most of the time. Assholes!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on November 19, 2019, 08:22:29 PM
Stop reading, stop clicking!!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Pete3206 on November 19, 2019, 08:47:12 PM
It's never been the same since they dropped The Phantom and Chipper club
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: West Derby Villan on November 19, 2019, 10:09:37 PM
It's never been the same since they dropped The Phantom and Chipper club


Oh happy days.......
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 20, 2019, 09:22:34 AM
They’re now quoting each of our players’ reported weekly wages.  ‘And there are a few surprises’. Apparently.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on November 20, 2019, 02:08:43 PM
I think the last time I bought it was when we won the play off final. I will probably buy it next when we win the Carabao Cup later this season and again when we win the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kieron on November 20, 2019, 02:16:19 PM
Yep, we can look forward to the full on quarter-page spread they'll put on for us.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on November 22, 2019, 09:03:57 AM
Today once again our so called local newspaper joyously pushing the McGinn to Yanited story which of course they instigated.    Fucking rag.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on November 22, 2019, 09:12:59 AM
Was there ever a full explanation of the Great Tea Trolley Disaster?

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Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 06, 2020, 04:47:14 PM
In the last few days they have been selling Jack to Chelsea, Manure again and now Barca.  There is zero encouragement to stay at Villa.  Instead focusing on how likely he is to go.  Can't they just fuck off!  The worst regional publication in the country bar none.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Ads on February 06, 2020, 04:49:09 PM
In the last few days they have been selling Jack to Chelsea, Manure again and now Barca.  There is zero encouragement to stay at Villa.  Instead focusing on how likely he is to go.  Can't they just fuck off!  The worst regional publication in the country bar none.

It seems to be reflected in some of us though. People are discussing the impossibility of him staying, regardless of whether we stay up or not.

We find new and unusual ways to try to be as miserable as possible, we seldom need outside encouragement.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 06, 2020, 04:51:23 PM
A trashy newspaper, that's a disgrace to the area that it's supposed to represent!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 06, 2020, 05:02:25 PM
In the last few days they have been selling Jack to Chelsea, Manure again and now Barca.  There is zero encouragement to stay at Villa.  Instead focusing on how likely he is to go.  Can't they just fuck off!  The worst regional publication in the country bar none.

It seems to be reflected in some of us though. People are discussing the impossibility of him staying, regardless of whether we stay up or not.

We find new and unusual ways to try to be as miserable as possible, we seldom need outside encouragement.

Which I was guilty of last week in an albeit flippant manner.  I just fucking hate their constant negative slant about us - who gives a flying fuck about Manure fans on twitter saying 'snap him up', 'Captain material'  When will they realise that Manure are more or less irrelevant in the scheme of things these days.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Villan For Life on February 06, 2020, 06:13:19 PM
Meaning Evil? File alongside Talk Sport & Radio WM for purveyors of utter drivel. They’re not even worth thinking about and are a pale imitation of the local newspaper that they once were.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Villafirst on February 06, 2020, 06:43:07 PM
The rag has now linked Jack to Man Citeh! Saying they 'could' be preparing a bid in the Summer.
Can't they focus on Jimenez and Neves instead? Or Traore? The dogheads always seem to slip under the radar.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 06, 2020, 06:48:59 PM
It's a rag. It doesn't even report actual news, you can't even get traffic updates until rush hour is over. Don't buy, don't click. They deserve to go bust.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 06, 2020, 06:51:23 PM
The rag has now linked Jack to Man Citeh! Saying they 'could' be preparing a bid in the Summer.
Can't they focus on Jimenez and Neves instead? Or Traore? The dogheads always seem to slip under the radar.


Au contraire:

Grealish, Fraser, Maupay - The summer transfer targets to save Wolves millions
Should Wolves look to the Premier League's relegated clubs to cherry-pick their best talents on the cheap?

https://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wolves-transfer-news-grealish-maupay-17695798
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Exeter 77 on February 06, 2020, 07:23:47 PM
I find the continued stance from the Mail and and the Birmingham Live website especially strange given how many of their writers are Villa fans with backgrounds to prove it. Mat Kendrick actually wrote stuff for H & V and of the recent recruits Dan Rolinson started The Villa View on YouTube and James Rushton wrote about Villa on the 7500 To Holte website.

It seems that it is a very obvious editorial decision to put the slants they do on Villa stories and is not surprising as they are owned by Reach PLC who also own the Mirror and Daily Star and employ the fantasist James Nursey.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 06, 2020, 07:31:50 PM
Anyone else remember when Dan Rolinson was on here during the 2015 cup run with his videos, and then never posting again once he'd pushed them on here.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Exeter 77 on February 06, 2020, 07:44:40 PM
Anyone else remember when Dan Rolinson was on here during the 2015 cup run with his videos, and then never posting again once he'd pushed them on here.
That completely passed me by. A total of 29 posts apparently. I met him outside Wembley in May and he seemed very shy unlike Dan Bardell who was with him. They were both nice enough for me to feel momentarily guilty for questioning the independence of their channel in H &V a couple of years ago. It soon passed though.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Fred Crump on February 06, 2020, 07:51:56 PM
Was there ever a full explanation of the Great Tea Trolley Disaster?

(https://i.ibb.co/0GXp6YN/bris.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0GXp6YN)
No, but apparently it happened in the west wing of the Chester Perry building which was finally abandoned and boarded up after the Heinous Luncheon Voucher Swindle of ‘69 !
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: chrisw1 on February 06, 2020, 07:54:58 PM
They’re all big Villa fans

I was annoyed by the article but in fairness doesn’t it end with the case for keeping him?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Legion on February 06, 2020, 08:21:59 PM
Five Academy prospects:

https://twitter.com/avfc_news/status/1225461750784548869?s=12
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Clampy on February 06, 2020, 08:33:20 PM
Is anyone still in The Chipper Club?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on February 06, 2020, 08:46:47 PM
Is anyone still in The Chipper Club?
I had a Chopper..
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 06, 2020, 08:48:24 PM
Is anyone still in The Chipper Club?
I had a Chopper..

Had?

Welcome to the site Mr Bobbitt.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 06, 2020, 08:49:27 PM
Officially yes.  And this is the root of my anger with them.  I’m still waiting for my badge.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 06, 2020, 09:02:21 PM
The rag has now linked Jack to Man Citeh! Saying they 'could' be preparing a bid in the Summer.
Can't they focus on Jimenez and Neves instead? Or Traore? The dogheads always seem to slip under the radar.


Au contraire:

Grealish, Fraser, Maupay - The summer transfer targets to save Wolves millions
Should Wolves look to the Premier League's relegated clubs to cherry-pick their best talents on the cheap?

https://www.waste of paper.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wolves-transfer-news-grealish-maupay-17695798

What an absolute piece of shit troll sheet that rag is.

Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: robbo1874 on February 07, 2020, 07:23:10 AM
I find the continued stance from the Mail and and the Birmingham Live website especially strange given how many of their writers are Villa fans with backgrounds to prove it. Mat Kendrick actually wrote stuff for H & V and of the recent recruits Dan Rolinson started The Villa View on YouTube and James Rushton wrote about Villa on the 7500 To Holte website.

It seems that it is a very obvious editorial decision to put the slants they do on Villa stories and is not surprising as they are owned by Reach PLC who also own the Mirror and Daily Star and employ the fantasist James Nursey.
agree about them being Villa fans. I listen to the podcast that Kendrick does, beyond doubt that he’s Villa. Although he seems to offer very little in terms of journalistic insight. The other guy is a bit better, can’t remember his name- Ash is it, from West Bromwich. The kid that chairs it is comical in his ill-preparedness. Quite an entertaining listen though.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Demitri_C on February 07, 2020, 09:43:18 AM
Remember when baggy bill was reporting on us all those years ago? A very strabge decision having a boggies fan reporting on villa.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 07, 2020, 09:47:12 AM
"Send us the bill".
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 07, 2020, 09:53:41 AM
Remember when baggy bill was reporting on us all those years ago? A very strabge decision having a boggies fan reporting on villa.

Greg Evans supports them as well.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 07, 2020, 10:14:44 AM
You know a newspaper is bad when they can make you side with David O'Leary.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 07, 2020, 12:24:21 PM
"Send us the bill".

What a cunty article that was, no wonder they pulled it so quickly.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Demitri_C on February 07, 2020, 12:43:48 PM
Remember when baggy bill was reporting on us all those years ago? A very strabge decision having a boggies fan reporting on villa.

Greg Evans supports them as well.

Didnt know that. Seems strange 🤔
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: phantom limb on February 07, 2020, 01:13:23 PM
"Send us the bill".

What a cunty article that was, no wonder they pulled it so quickly.

It was so bitter and unprofessional. I could imagine him being really pleased with himself after he typed it up, not realising how it was going to make him look once published. Didn’t he get the boot because of it as well?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 07, 2020, 01:29:03 PM
I haven't heard of him working since.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 07, 2020, 01:29:51 PM
You know a newspaper is bad when they can make you side with David O'Leary.

Sugarbag.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 07, 2020, 01:52:47 PM
Just like TalkSport, if people stopped calling them they wouldn't have a business, stop clicking on their bait and the Mail won't have a paper/website.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 07, 2020, 02:14:26 PM
"Send us the bill".

What a cunty article that was, no wonder they pulled it so quickly.

It was so bitter and unprofessional. I could imagine him being really pleased with himself after he typed it up, not realising how it was going to make him look once published. Didn’t he get the boot because of it as well?

He did a couple of stories - one about history before the league game then that absolute disgrace after the cup. He left the Mail not long after that.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on February 08, 2020, 07:06:33 PM
Headline in today's Birmingham Mail : "Man United to beat Man City and Real Madrid to the Jack Grealish signing" Yes folks that's in the BIRMINGHAM mail which is the local newspaper to AVFC. Scurrilous shitbags. 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Dr_Pangloss on February 08, 2020, 07:45:16 PM
Their 'content' is post-journalism par excellence. Utter fucking garbage.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: glinch on February 08, 2020, 09:09:31 PM
Headline in today's Birmingham Mail : "Man United to beat Man City and Real Madrid to the Jack Grealish signing" Yes folks that's in the BIRMINGHAM mail which is the local newspaper to AVFC. Scurrilous shitbags. 

Absolute garbage "news paper", just a click bait factory.

I honestly believe they should be banned from VP, they don't serve any purpose as a local newspaper anymore.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Billy Walker on February 08, 2020, 09:18:57 PM
Headline in today's Birmingham Mail : "Man United to beat Man City and Real Madrid to the Jack Grealish signing" Yes folks that's in the BIRMINGHAM mail which is the local newspaper to AVFC. Scurrilous shitbags. 

Absolute garbage "news paper", just a click bait factory.

I honestly believe they should be banned from VP, they don't serve any purpose as a local newspaper anymore.


Totally agree.  Them and Nursey.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Pete3206 on February 08, 2020, 11:00:30 PM
Totally irrelevant as a media outlet. Ignore.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on February 08, 2020, 11:04:26 PM
Headline in today's Birmingham Mail : "Man United to beat Man City and Real Madrid to the Jack Grealish signing" Yes folks that's in the BIRMINGHAM mail which is the local newspaper to AVFC. Scurrilous shitbags. 

Absolute garbage "news paper", just a click bait factory.

I honestly believe they should be banned from VP, they don't serve any purpose as a local newspaper anymore.
I totally agree.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on February 09, 2020, 08:41:57 AM
The Birmingham mail leads with FOUR stories linking Jack Grealish with a transfer. One article even states that he has been house hunting in Manchester.
It has got to be the worst local newspaper in the country. Fucking rag.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 09, 2020, 09:19:42 AM
It's not local anymore
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on February 09, 2020, 09:42:56 AM
It's not local anymore
It's owned by Reach plc formerly the Trinity Mirror group (according to wiki anyway) They also own the Manchester evening news so that's no more local to Man Utd than the Birmingham mail is to us. So why are they hell bent on making the Grealish transfer to United happen? I'm guessing that it's down to the staff at Reach plc being largely of the red persuasion which makes perfect sense as it's headquarters are in London.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: nigel on February 09, 2020, 04:14:06 PM
The Birmingham mail leads with FOUR stories linking Jack Grealish with a transfer. One article even states that he has been house hunting in Manchester.
It has got to be the worst local newspaper in the country. Fucking rag.

Not that it means much, but, I know for a fact that he’s not long bought a place in Barnt Green
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: tomd2103 on February 09, 2020, 04:46:02 PM
The Birmingham mail leads with FOUR stories linking Jack Grealish with a transfer. One article even states that he has been house hunting in Manchester.
It has got to be the worst local newspaper in the country. Fucking rag.

Should come as no surprise.  I remember when we got to the FA Cup final in 2015 and their lead story on the back page the day before the final was about Benteke leaving. 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on February 09, 2020, 06:44:39 PM
It's not local anymore
It's owned by Reach plc formerly the Trinity Mirror group (according to wiki anyway) They also own the Manchester evening news so that's no more local to Man Utd than the Birmingham mail is to us. So why are they hell bent on making the Grealish transfer to United happen? I'm guessing that it's down to the staff at Reach plc being largely of the red persuasion which makes perfect sense as it's headquarters are in London.
Its because negative Villa stories are what gets the most clicks and sharing on social media. Newspapers these days are just professional media trolls - most have hardly any proper journalists left. I worked in publishing about a year ago and I gave the writers a list of stories to write every week based only on what was receiving the most traffic on social media. I also publsihed web traffic by writer - kind of hunger games if you like.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: ez on February 11, 2020, 09:42:19 AM
A Greg Evan's 'mistake' called out by Mingsy on Twitter.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on February 11, 2020, 09:44:08 AM
A Greg Evan's 'mistake' called out by Mingsy on Twitter.
What is?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 11, 2020, 09:48:32 AM
A Greg Evan's 'mistake' called out by Mingsy on Twitter.
What is?

Gregg Evans went to Dubai to see how PL footballers spend their time in the winter break. There's a picture of Mings & Jack in his article.

Mings replied to Gregg.

Not sure how Tyrone Mings was 'spotted'  he didn't even go to Dubai.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on February 11, 2020, 10:07:39 AM
Quote from: The Edge 6link=topic=59458.msg3719928#msg3719928 date=1581414248
A Greg Evan's 'mistake' called out by Mingsy on Twitter.
What is?

Gregg Evans went to Dubai to see how PL footballers spend their time in the winter break. There's a picture of Mings & Jack in his article.

Mings replied to Gregg.

Not sure how Tyrone Mings was 'spotted'  he didn't even go to Dubai.
Fake news then
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 11, 2020, 10:17:18 AM
The Athletic is a paid for version of The Evening Mail.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 11, 2020, 10:48:49 AM
To be fair to Gregg Evans (not a rare occurence) he wouldn't have had any say in the choice of photo.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Ads on February 11, 2020, 12:50:12 PM
I think the Athletic is pretty good to be fair. This is just a fluff piece though.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 15, 2020, 08:33:35 PM
What a ridiculously pointless story. 


Aston Villa have been warned by a football finance expert they could lose Jack Grealish on the cheap this summer - unless Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens act.

Premier League clubs have suffered a significant dent in income due to the coronavirus pandemic, with a recent estimate placing the damage at over £1bn across the 20 sides.

It means that buyers could be sniffing around for a bargain when the transfer window reopens and Villa are braced for interest in Jack Grealish.

The skipper is wanted by Manchester United, whose manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer recently claimed the financial clout his side is able to boast means they could "exploit" selling clubs when trading resumes.


Aston Villa's English midfielder Jack Grealish runs with the ball during the League Cup final
Kieran Maguire, a University of Liverpool lecturer on football finance, says Villa could face pressure from United or other interested clubs to sell £60m-rated Grealish for a cut-price fee - but investment from owners Sawiris and Edens could change that.

He explained to the Express: “For Aston Villa it may be more complicated than that in respect of Jack Grealish.

“First of all there is a chance they could get relegated so there would be the financial consequences of that. Secondly, the club is likely to have lost money in the Premier League this season because of the pandemic."

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Maguire pleaded: “Now, the one thing Villa have got in their favour is they are owned by two incredibly wealthy owners. So, if the two owners are willing to pump money into the club then that might maintain Jack Grealish’s price.

“If they are not then I think Villa would have to compromise on the price they want for Jack in the summer should they decide to sell.”

Grealish, who has nine goals and eight assists to his name this season, signed a new contract at Villa Park two years ago lasting until 2023.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: p_ad on April 16, 2020, 09:24:43 AM
Yep a pure load of shite
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: andyh on April 16, 2020, 10:14:27 AM
That rag has printed so many negative stories about the whole region over the years.
As I have said before, it must be the only publication that hates its own target market.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on April 16, 2020, 01:43:39 PM
Jack Grealish is highly rated and interests at least one of the top teams in the Premier league. Manure are the team most linked and almost certainly have the money to buy him IF Villa choose to sell. In other bleeding obvious news apparently bears do shit in the woods.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 16, 2020, 09:18:21 PM
That rag has printed so many negative stories about the whole region over the years.
As I have said before, it must be the only publication that hates its own target market.

This

It is a self-loathing rag that perpetuates every negative Brummie stereotype you can think of, and actively seeks to undermine and belittle its biggest football club.

All through one of the most hideous, advert-laden, clickbait driven web site you'll see anywhere.

I look forward to it disappearing for good.

If that's local 'news' they can keep it.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: somec on April 16, 2020, 09:37:01 PM
That rag has printed so many negative stories about the whole region over the years.
As I have said before, it must be the only publication that hates its own target market.

This

It is a self-loathing rag that perpetuates every negative Brummie stereotype you can think of, and actively seeks to undermine and belittle its biggest football club.

All through one of the most hideous, advert-laden, clickbait driven web site you'll see anywhere.

I look forward to it disappearing for good.

If that's local 'news' they can keep it.

You could always try this ;)

http://www.paradisecircus.com/2016/03/22/finally-birmingham-mail-without-the-content/
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 16, 2020, 09:38:54 PM
😂
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on April 17, 2020, 10:18:39 AM
Fuck me, if you filtered out the crap from the Mail website, you'd be left with a blank page with the date at the top.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 17, 2020, 11:33:30 AM
When the Mail finally closes I shall mourn the Evening Mail of my youth and early adult years and not the the pathetic mess it’s been for the last 10 or so years. It’s relentless clickbait drivel on Twitter etc has been the final straw. Good riddance to the rag (whenever that’ll be).
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 17, 2020, 11:44:46 AM
They can't blame it on their ownership. Them, the Liverpool Echo and the Manchester Evening News are all owned by Reach.

On an average day the Echo website  will lead with 'Liverpool - Why it's so great'.

The MEN will have 'Manchester - Best city in the world'.

The Mail will say 'Birmingham - If you're lucky you'll get out in one piece'.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: aj2k77 on April 17, 2020, 01:30:05 PM
How many of the Mail reporters are locals? As in Birmingham. Seeing as it's the Birmingham Evening Mail and most of their readership is based here.

I always thought it strange that they've had us reported on numerous times by bitter Albion twats who found it impossible to be impartial and littered their reports with amateurish jibes.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Confusious says on April 17, 2020, 02:00:49 PM
The mail unfortunately is not local now, I can remember when we had the Despatch paper which was local & a good alternative to the meaning evil but they were taken over by them. I have found the express & star to be more palatable for Villa & local news.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 17, 2020, 08:09:58 PM
They’ve taken the piss out of us for years.  Giving us two Smethwick supporters in a row as they men inside Villa Park’ for a start off.  Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and give us Twattum.  Even before that they had that horrible blue nose twonk Roger someone name escapes me being openly vitriolic about us in The Argus.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Holte132 on April 17, 2020, 08:17:04 PM
They’ve taken the piss out of us for years.  Giving us two Smethwick supporters in a row as they men inside Villa Park’ for a start off.  Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and give us Twattum.  Even before that they had that horrible blue nose twonk Roger someone name escapes me being openly vitriolic about us in The Argus.

Always loved hearing the vendors calling out what sounded like Spatchy Mail.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: in exile on April 18, 2020, 06:35:08 AM
Would that have been "Dispatch and Mail"?
I seem to remember that.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: RichardBatchelor on April 18, 2020, 07:53:22 AM
It’s not only the ‘content’ which is woeful but a web page takes about a year to download properly. Feels like a seething, writhing infestation of ads and viruses.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: big 1st serve on April 18, 2020, 08:31:36 AM
They’ve taken the piss out of us for years.  Giving us two Smethwick supporters in a row as they men inside Villa Park’ for a start off.  Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and give us Twattum.  Even before that they had that horrible blue nose twonk Roger someone name escapes me being openly vitriolic about us in The Argus.
[/quote    I think that may have been Roger Skidmore, always got a little excited if Small Heath were above us ...." theres a change in the balance of power,etc"]
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Virgil Caine on April 18, 2020, 09:24:54 AM
Decades ago, a team I played for, the mighty Hobs Moat United played a friendly against the sports journalists of the Mail when it was an OK paper (I don’t think it’s ever been particularly brilliant). Stafford Hildred who was lead football journalist played and was a decent player if memory serves me right but generally they were a horrible bunch and not very friendly at all. A mildly violent 2-2 draw was the result.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on April 18, 2020, 11:46:29 AM
They’ve taken the piss out of us for years.  Giving us two Smethwick supporters in a row as they men inside Villa Park’ for a start off.  Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and give us Twattum.  Even before that they had that horrible blue nose twonk Roger someone name escapes me being openly vitriolic about us in The Argus.

Skidmark, sorry Skidmore.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 18, 2020, 12:11:42 PM
They’ve taken the piss out of us for years.  Giving us two Smethwick supporters in a row as they men inside Villa Park’ for a start off.  Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and give us Twattum.  Even before that they had that horrible blue nose twonk Roger someone name escapes me being openly vitriolic about us in The Argus.

Skidmark, sorry Skidmore.

And what a proper bitter, jealous Bluenose he was.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on April 18, 2020, 12:22:52 PM
They’ve taken the piss out of us for years.  Giving us two Smethwick supporters in a row as they men inside Villa Park’ for a start off.  Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and give us Twattum.  Even before that they had that horrible blue nose twonk Roger someone name escapes me being openly vitriolic about us in The Argus.

Skidmark, sorry Skidmore.

And what a proper bitter, jealous Bluenose he was.

Deep down, aren’t they all?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: remy on April 19, 2020, 07:11:59 AM
Must have been about 21 years old walking through town one day and we were doing shit at the time. No internet then just Ceefax / Oracle / Argus and this rag when we won.

Anyway the sign on one of the newspaper booths was
'Villa in for new striker'
"Ooh I'll grab that now' said the naive idealistic Remy.

Skimming from the back page er....where the fuck is the article or dare I say pic of a grinning herbert next to Shearer?

Teeny side square- ex player says that 'x' would be a good fit for current team and villa should look closely. Further down he said all human males should use their cock to take a piss.

Roll 2020 and a whip of a smartphone can tell you in 5 seconds how much bull swirls as clickbait.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Pete3206 on April 19, 2020, 11:48:06 AM
Anyone remember Mercury ray of sunshine George Tyndale? Whatever happened to that bigoted twat?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Nev on April 19, 2020, 11:49:09 AM
Anyone remember Mercury ray of sunshine George Tyndale? Whatever happened to that bigoted twat?

Became the Patron Saint of Brexit.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: tomd2103 on April 19, 2020, 01:15:22 PM
g
That rag has printed so many negative stories about the whole region over the years.
As I have said before, it must be the only publication that hates its own target market.

One of the worst examples I ever read was a complete hatchet job one of their sports writers did on Allan Donald when he was coming to the end of his career at Warwickshire.  Bearing in mind, he was one of the all-time world greats and a great servant over a long period to the Bears, the writer tore into him basically saying that he should wrap it up because he was over the hill and a shadow of himself.

Totally unnecessary and mean spirited piece about one of the greatest sportsmen to have graced the area.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 19, 2020, 02:01:21 PM
Talking of Skidmore as much as I disliked him I did like this piece that bought back many a comical memory.


https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+INCREDIBLE+SULK.-a074855253
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: steamer on April 19, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
Brilliant, I remember watching it and thinking, this can not be true.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 19, 2020, 07:37:01 PM
He ended up as a postman.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: remy on April 19, 2020, 07:45:21 PM
Talking of Skidmore as much as I disliked him I did like this piece that bought back many a comical memory.


https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+INCREDIBLE+SULK.-a074855253


Kept me entertained for ages that result. The Barnsley 4-0 at home after the Meaning Evil build up wankfest was hilarious.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 19, 2020, 08:13:34 PM
12 minutes in.  Just hilarious.

https://youtu.be/V67Mx84qIMg
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithe on April 19, 2020, 08:15:58 PM
He ended up as a postman.

Well, it’s better than walking the .............no, it wasn’t funny the first 75 times.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on April 19, 2020, 08:17:05 PM
Talking of Skidmore as much as I disliked him I did like this piece that bought back many a comical memory.


https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+INCREDIBLE+SULK.-a074855253


Kept me entertained for ages that result. The Barnsley 4-0 at home after the Meaning Evil build up wankfest was hilarious.


I was at a party at The Golden Arrow on the Warwick Road Olton that afternoon. I enjoyed some drunken 'bants' with several noses that day.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on April 19, 2020, 08:34:25 PM
12 minutes in.  Just hilarious.

https://youtu.be/V67Mx84qIMg


Francis, what a plank! I remember the game vividly. His strop totally put his own players off their stride and everyone connected to Preston must have loved every second.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on April 19, 2020, 08:46:32 PM
I had totally forgotten the Small Heath owners demanding a replay. That was about as successful as their demands for a new stadium from the council.  ;D
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Nev on April 19, 2020, 09:38:58 PM
Talking of Skidmore as much as I disliked him I did like this piece that bought back many a comical memory.


https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+INCREDIBLE+SULK.-a074855253


Kept me entertained for ages that result. The Barnsley 4-0 at home after the Meaning Evil build up wankfest was hilarious.


I was at a party at The Golden Arrow on the Warwick Road Olton that afternoon. I enjoyed some drunken 'bants' with several noses that day.

I lived 'round the corner from the Dovecote in Sheldon in those days, I had a happy couple of hours leaning on the bar, smiling at the few rags that came into the pub.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Villafirst on April 20, 2020, 06:43:00 PM
I see another negative comment in today's B'ham Mail. "Villa should be worried" with other clubs taking out loans in the PL to survive. Always a negative daily comment from that crap newspaper.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: godzvilla on April 20, 2020, 10:40:11 PM
Headlines like “ villa fans won’t like this pundits view “.  Oh do please fuck off
Or @Villa Fans drool over over this player's twitter 
   ……………...…….godzvilla!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 28, 2020, 01:23:33 PM
Under the headline - 'colossal financial loss'.  Or alternatively, the equivalent of 'losing £60 from £600.'

Revealed: Aston Villa owner Nassef Sawiris suffers colossal financial loss
Aston Villa news - a number of billionaires across the world have seen their net-worth slashed amid the coronavirus outbreak

ByBen Husband
12:00, 28 APR 2020
SPORT



The coronavirus pandemic has seen Aston Villa co-owner Nassef Sawiris’ net worth drop by $600m, according to Forbes’ latest figures.

The Egyptian businessman, along with Wes Edens, bought Villa in the summer of 2018, saving them from the imminent threat of administration.

After Dean Smith guided them to promotion on the pitch, Sawiris and Edens bankrolled Villa’s ambitious spending plans, with 12 players arriving at a cost of almost £150m.

But the current situation has seen the most wealthy people in the world see a huge drop in net-worth and Sawiris has seemingly not escaped that fate.


According to Forbes’ 2020 billionaire list, there are 58 fewer billionaires than in 2019 and a staggering 226 fewer than 12 days before the list was released at the start of March.

The report goes on to add that due to the COVID-19 pandemic, global equity markets have imploded, causing 51% of the 2095 to be poorer than last year. With the total list seeing a $700 billion drop in fortune.



In 2019, Sawiris was said to be valued at $6.4bn, but according to Forbes’ real-time net worth, his fortune is now down to $5.8bn, a drop of $600m.

The Egypt Independent reported back in July of last year, that the Villa co-owner saw his value rise to $7.9bn, just months after the team achieved a return to the Premier League.

Based on Bloomberg’s information, Sawiris' net-worth stood at over $7bn in January, reaching a low of $4.3bn in March, before stabilising in April.

His $5.8bn still sees him comfortably come in on top on the list of wealthy Arabs , with his current net wealth putting him at 320 on the list of billionaires across the world.

Villa’s co-owners still sit towards the top of rich Premier League owners, with Edens and Sawiris holding a $6.8bn combined net worth.

Football finance expert Kieran Maguire has told BirmighamLive that the drop in finances, shouldn’t affect Villa’s outlook too much, but does raise some important questions.

“The loss shouldn’t have a huge impact by itself, but there are two main concerns: How much of his wealth is tied up in assets that are difficult to convert into cash? And, is Sawiris having to support other business interests during the pandemic, which might restrict what he can do for Villa?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 28, 2020, 01:39:34 PM
12 minutes in.  Just hilarious.

https://youtu.be/V67Mx84qIMg


Francis, what a plank! I remember the game vividly. His strop totally put his own players off their stride and everyone connected to Preston must have loved every second.

A man who tires of watching that is tired of life.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: chrisw1 on April 30, 2020, 03:25:59 PM
Todays breaking news from Birmingham Live - Conor says Jack has outgrown Villa.

Ashley Precce is meant to be a Villa fan and he still comes out with this shit. 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on April 30, 2020, 03:44:27 PM
So according to The Meaning Evil we are in big financial trouble. Presumably the likes of Small Heath and Smethwick on the other hand are fine. Apparently Edens and Sawaris are now having to struggle along with a joint fortune of seven billion dollars combined. #skint pricks.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: chrisw1 on April 30, 2020, 05:27:49 PM
I've got Ashley Preece in a debate on twitter about positive v negative Villa articles.  He seems to think there's loads of positive stuff. 

 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Exeter 77 on April 30, 2020, 07:51:35 PM
Todays breaking news from Birmingham Live - Conor says Jack has outgrown Villa.

Ashley Precce is meant to be a Villa fan and he still comes out with this shit. 
If Conor is saying that I would hope Dean Smith takes as dim a view of it as O'Neill  did when Berger was trying to get Garth Barry to join Liverpool.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: tomd2103 on April 30, 2020, 11:25:01 PM
I've got Ashley Preece in a debate on twitter about positive v negative Villa articles.  He seems to think there's loads of positive stuff.

If you have still got him in a debate about the BM's coverage of Villa, ask him why the main story on the back page on the eve of our FA Cup final appearance in 2015 was about Christian Benteke possibly leaving and not a word about the game the following day.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 30, 2020, 11:33:24 PM
Didn't Skidmore once come out with Kenny Cunningham was a better defender than Paul McGrath or am I making that up?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Pete3206 on April 30, 2020, 11:33:53 PM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 01, 2020, 08:17:05 AM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: AV82EC on May 01, 2020, 09:49:03 AM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.

Favourite Band: Phil Collins or Sade
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 01, 2020, 10:28:50 AM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.

Favourite Band: Phil Collins or Sade

Favourite food: spaghetti bolognese
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: DB on May 01, 2020, 11:11:49 AM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.

Favourite Band: Phil Collins or Sade

Favourite food: spaghetti bolognese

Favourite TV programme: Minder
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: richtheholtender on May 01, 2020, 12:22:13 PM
According to the ever reliable Jack has dropped a hint about his man united shirt number
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: OzVilla on May 01, 2020, 01:19:41 PM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.

Favourite Band: Phil Collins or Sade

Favourite food: spaghetti bolognese

Favourite TV programme: Minder

Favourite holiday destination: Corfu
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Brend'Watkins on May 01, 2020, 01:47:50 PM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.

Favourite Band: Phil Collins or Sade

Favourite food: spaghetti bolognese

Favourite TV programme: Minder

Favourite holiday destination: Corfu

Person he’d most like to meet: Jimmy Saville
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: OzVilla on May 01, 2020, 01:54:09 PM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.

Favourite Band: Phil Collins or Sade

Favourite food: spaghetti bolognese

Favourite TV programme: Minder

Favourite holiday destination: Corfu

Person he’d most like to meet: Jimmy Saville

Occupation if you’d not been a footballer: PE Teacher
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 01, 2020, 02:23:12 PM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.


Nothing wrong with a Toyota Supra. Although mine was red.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 03, 2020, 02:47:56 PM
Ashley Preece?

Sounds like a crap footballer from the 80's, with a Panini sticker picture highlighting a big head and a mullet hair style.

 

Drove a white Toyota Supra.


Nothing wrong with a Toyota Supra. Although mine was red.

Was your biggest influence on your career your dad and your best friend your wife?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Hillbilly on May 04, 2020, 01:03:03 AM
Dream date: Sam Fox
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 04, 2020, 12:51:28 PM
Favourite Film - One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest.

Although a few footballers more in touch with their feminine side were brave enough to go with An Officer And A Gentleman.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 04, 2020, 06:50:40 PM
Favourite Film Actor - Clint Eastwood. 
Favourite Film Actress - Demi Moore.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 04, 2020, 08:35:35 PM
Favourite Song: Rockin' All Over the Word - Status Quo
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 04, 2020, 09:36:38 PM
All the above are spot on although I reckon the real answer for favourite food = steak and chips, (well done).
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 04, 2020, 11:15:54 PM
I think this is probably a new low from the Birmingham Mail.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfer-news-mcginn-18172970

Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 04, 2020, 11:25:20 PM
I think this is probably a new low from the Birmingham Mail.

https://www.xxxx.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfer-news-mcginn-18172970


If he does leave it won't be for Newcastle.

Although who am I to argue with Noel 'Finger on the pulse of football' Whelan?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithe on May 05, 2020, 07:12:43 AM
All the above are spot on although I reckon the real answer for favourite food = steak and chips, (well done).

I remember Bob Hazells being Curried Goat, which was both exotic and appalling at the same time for 1979.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 05, 2020, 05:35:35 PM
All the above are spot on although I reckon the real answer for favourite food = steak and chips, (well done).

I remember Bob Hazells being Curried Goat, which was both exotic and appalling at the same time for 1979.


'Pre match meal' was usually 'beans on toast' or 'chicken'.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 05, 2020, 07:36:50 PM
In my day 'favourite singer/band' was always Luther Vandross.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 05, 2020, 08:17:20 PM
In my day 'favourite singer/band' was always Luther Vandross.


Luther Vandross and Phil Collins did seem to be mentioned a lot.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: in exile on May 06, 2020, 08:24:56 AM
Favourite food always used to be Steak & Chips along with Favourite drink - Milk
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: BC Villain on May 06, 2020, 07:07:27 PM
They’ve taken the piss out of us for years.  Giving us two Smethwick supporters in a row as they men inside Villa Park’ for a start off.  Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and give us Twattum.  Even before that they had that horrible blue nose twonk Roger someone name escapes me being openly vitriolic about us in The Argus.

Skidmark, sorry Skidmore.

And what a proper bitter, jealous Bluenose he was.

I can remember Roger Skidmore doing a phone in show with Tom Ross.  Seemed like they were close to coming to blows at times, particularly when Skidmore branded our 90s league cup wins as Mickey mouse.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 06, 2020, 07:28:17 PM
I agree with those who have said the Express & Star is a more reputable, balanced and well-written newspaper. Which is embarrassing in itself.

I know the populations and audiences are different, but I always fancied something like the Evening Standard in Birmingham, minus Osborne, of course.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Simon Page on May 06, 2020, 07:49:06 PM
I agree with those who have said the Express & Star is a more reputable, balanced and well-written newspaper. Which is embarrassing in itself.

I know the populations and audiences are different, but I always fancied something like the Evening Standard in Birmingham, minus Osborne, of course.

My memory might be playing tricks, but I have a vague recollection that the Post and Mail used to carry more national news in the 80s. I don't know if they still have it, but there used to be a London office. I had to go there a few times and it was like stepping into a Victorian accountants.

Regardless, in the late 90s, when it seemed to be constantly flipping ownership between Post & Mail and the Mirror, they got rid of all the good writers and started to scale back with the obvious results. What was once required reading and delivered to half the city eventually became a weekly parochial Post and a local Mail. All the regional editions were ditched and they prioritised director salaries over decent journalism. They tried to blame the BBC but the reasons it became a nothing outlet could be found in their own boardroom. Sadly, it's a state of affairs replicated across a lot of the country.

The Express & Star does still value journalism and, having the privilege of working with some of their former graduates, churns out some exceptional writers. There's a couple I work with who are off-the-scale brilliant.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: CT on May 10, 2020, 10:20:38 AM
Following Noel Whelan"s latest piece of "journalism" (I'm not linking it) , I would really like the club to ban the Mail once the doors at Villa Park reopen.

He, and they, are an absolute disgrace.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Pete3206 on May 10, 2020, 11:32:36 AM
Just avoid the Evil website altogether. It exists to bombard you with adverts, as soon as you click their links. Also, Noel Whelan isn't a journalist. He's a washed up talking head, spouting cliches for pin money.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 10, 2020, 11:47:43 AM
Following Noel Whelan"s latest piece of "journalism" (I'm not linking it) , I would really like the club to ban the Mail once the doors at Villa Park reopen.

He, and they, are an absolute disgrace.

Agree, get them banned.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 10, 2020, 02:10:51 PM
I had a very good book about Coventry's survival season around 1999/2000 time. It was called Staying Up and I think the authors name was something like Rick Goretsky. He had access all areas to the club, hotels, coaches to away trips etc. I gave it to the physio who got me walking again as she was a big Coventry fan (and Sandi Toksvig lookalike). In the book Noel Whelan comes across as a complete twat.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 10, 2020, 02:19:21 PM
They’ve taken the piss out of us for years.  Giving us two Smethwick supporters in a row as they men inside Villa Park’ for a start off.  Surprised they didn’t go the whole hog and give us Twattum.  Even before that they had that horrible blue nose twonk Roger someone name escapes me being openly vitriolic about us in The Argus.

Skidmark, sorry Skidmore.

And what a proper bitter, jealous Bluenose he was.

I can remember Roger Skidmore doing a phone in show with Tom Ross.  Seemed like they were close to coming to blows at times, particularly when Skidmore branded our 90s league cup wins as Mickey mouse.


It wasn't a Mickey Mouse competition when we won it twice in the seventies, it wasn't a Mickey Mouse competition when Liverpool were happy to win it in the eighties, it wasn't a Mickey Mouse competition when we won it twice in the nineties and stopped Manure doing the domestic treble and Manchester City don't seem to have considered it to be a Mickey Mouse competition in recent years.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: big 1st serve on May 10, 2020, 02:39:01 PM
  Noel Whelan...didnt he injure himself when he was at Coventry?...by kicking in a Lemington Spa shop window?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Villa Lew on May 10, 2020, 02:47:17 PM
Can't comment on The Mail, as I don't read it, but disagree with those, who think Villa should ban it from the ground. You can't ban a paper on the basis, you dislike it. I'm guessing that at least 50% of The Mail's readers is made up of Villa fans, so there is a fairly large amount of Villa fans, who must like the paper.

As Pete said just ignore the paper or alternatively tell them, what you think of them.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 10, 2020, 02:49:06 PM
  Noel Whelan...didnt he injure himself when he was at Coventry?...by kicking in a Lemington Spa shop window?


Something like that as I recall. Noel Whelan's marriage failed, he had alcohol problems which included a drink driving ban and he went bankrupt. You would think he had enough on his plate without worrying about Villa.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Pete3206 on May 11, 2020, 12:31:47 AM
Crap haircut and smackable face to boot. Coventry's version of Paul Tait.

Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: VillaSpen on May 11, 2020, 07:11:48 AM
I've got Ashley Preece in a debate on twitter about positive v negative Villa articles.  He seems to think there's loads of positive stuff.

I had the exact same debate via facebook with him. We'd just beaten Brighton at home this season (I only get back over every other year and hadn't seen us win one since Bristol City 5-0) and I had taken both of my boys for the very first time. My 9 year old had never seen us win in person, my grandad got to go the Villa with his great-grandkids for the first time ever, last minute winner etc.

I was feeling very positive about our chances and that evening Ashley Preece shared his latest piece onto one of those dreadful facebook Villa groups ( I swiftly left them after briefly joining them in the build up to our trip back). It was titled something like "Villa's 10 Worst Ever Mistakes". It was riddled with spelling mistakes and factual inaccuracies and I pointed out a couple of them. He got all stroppy immediately and said "LOL, it's not War and Peace mate, chill out." After I asked why the Mail seemed so anti-Villa he tagged that Rollaston bloke and he weighed in too. Neither of them gave any evidence other than saying that some writers at the mail were Villa fans.

They both came across as childish pillocks and just wouldn't let it go. If that's the standard of Mail reporting nowadays I'm glad I haven't bought a copy in 25 years.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on May 11, 2020, 01:02:53 PM
Can't comment on The Mail, as I don't read it, but disagree with those, who think Villa should ban it from the ground. You can't ban a paper on the basis, you dislike it. I'm guessing that at least 50% of The Mail's readers is made up of Villa fans, so there is a fairly large amount of Villa fans, who must like the paper.

As Pete said just ignore the paper or alternatively tell them, what you think of them.

I'm not talking about banning it because I dislike it, I'm saying ban it because it is no longer a newspaper in effect, it's nothing more than an advertising hub that runs sensationalist bullshit to drive clicks to it's website. It's just using it's historical weight to continue to drain any last pennies from the jar, and treats the supporters of the club, the club and the city with thinly veiled disdain.

And nobody reads it anymore anyway.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Nev on May 11, 2020, 01:15:18 PM
The comment about it not being War and Peace tells you all you need to know about their standards. If writing is your living everything should be done correctly as if it were War and Peace, once you let your standards drop, then it's a slippery slope to text speak.

I like to do a bit of writing every now and again so refuse to use slang or text speak when sending messages, on here or in the most basic of e-mails, and never abandon punctuation. It's about habit, do it correctly all the time.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Drummond on May 11, 2020, 04:39:16 PM
The comment about it not being War and Peace tells you all you need to know about their standards. If writing is your living everything should be done correctly as if it were War and Peace, once you let your standards drop, then it's a slippery slope to text speak.

I like to do a bit of writing every now and again so refuse to use slang or text speak when sending messages, on here or in the most basic of e-mails, and never abandon punctuation. It's about habit, do it correctly all the time.

ur rite of crs  :P
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 11, 2020, 06:31:02 PM
Can't comment on The Mail, as I don't read it, but disagree with those, who think Villa should ban it from the ground. You can't ban a paper on the basis, you dislike it. I'm guessing that at least 50% of The Mail's readers is made up of Villa fans, so there is a fairly large amount of Villa fans, who must like the paper.

As Pete said just ignore the paper or alternatively tell them, what you think of them.

I'm not talking about banning it because I dislike it, I'm saying ban it because it is no longer a newspaper in effect, it's nothing more than an advertising hub that runs sensationalist bullshit to drive clicks to it's website. It's just using it's historical weight to continue to drain any last pennies from the jar, and treats the supporters of the club, the club and the city with thinly veiled disdain.

And nobody reads it anymore anyway.


My eighty five year old mother still reads it. Including the football coverage.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Simon Page on May 11, 2020, 06:43:09 PM
My 82-year-old mother still writes it, which is some going considering she's isolating in a dementia ward.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 11, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
My Dad still reads it - and then gets angry about it. He's still going on and on about Paddy Riley every time we discuss football.

"I tell you what fucked Villa, that ****** Paddy Riley. I fucking hate that ******. He destroyed our club."

"How do you know?"

"Read it in the Evening Mail..."
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 11, 2020, 09:38:09 PM
Ashley Preece has just said something on Twitter that's stirred the wrath of Steve Stride. That'll only have one winner.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 11, 2020, 09:50:43 PM
Ashley Preece has just said something on Twitter that's stirred the wrath of Steve Stride. That'll only have one winner.
Has Ashley Preece deleted some tweets in that conversation? It seems he's tactically withdrawn from  being intellectually embarrassed.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 11, 2020, 10:52:16 PM
Ashley Preece has just said something on Twitter that's stirred the wrath of Steve Stride. That'll only have one winner.
Has Ashley Preece deleted some tweets in that conversation? It seems he's tactically withdrawn from  being intellectually embarrassed.

Just a few.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: OzVilla on May 11, 2020, 10:54:58 PM
Doesn’t strike me as the brightest does our Ashley.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 12, 2020, 12:34:58 AM
Doesn’t strike me as the brightest does our Ashley.

Have you ever encountered anyone bright called Ashley (either first name or surname)?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 12, 2020, 04:49:09 AM
Isn’t he supposed to be Villa born and bred?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: brian green on May 12, 2020, 06:37:10 AM
If you really have an octenagarian parent who reads the birdcage liner the Birmingham newspapers have become they will never use the word "Evening" as a prefix.  That coruscation came when they started selling their organ at all times of the day.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Clampy on May 12, 2020, 10:06:37 AM
Is the Sunday Mercury still going?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 12, 2020, 02:31:37 PM
Shame Matt Kendrick left the Mail. He was a good journalist.

Done a podcast here with Stephen Cooke who I remember being massively rated when I first started reading this forum. Was going to get proper chance under Graham Taylor but O'Leary didn't rate him one bit.


Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 12, 2020, 03:31:44 PM
Shame Matt Kendrick left the Mail. He was a good journalist.

Done a podcast here with Stephen Cooke who I remember being massively rated when I first started reading this forum. Was going to get proper chance under Graham Taylor but O'Leary didn't rate him one bit.



I thought Mat Kendrick was still there but has moved up the hierarchy a bit.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 13, 2020, 12:28:42 AM
Mat is now the Mail's football editor.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Mister E on May 13, 2020, 10:12:29 AM
Shame Matt Kendrick left the Mail. He was a good journalist.

Done a podcast here with Stephen Cooke who I remember being massively rated when I first started reading this forum. Was going to get proper chance under Graham Taylor but O'Leary didn't rate him one bit.



I don't know whether that was the case but - watching this - it's clear that injury and attitude did for him.
By attitude, I mean that he'd obviously been an amazing young player and had got used to being at MAnure and Villa and didn't fancy the smaller-club environment.
Interesting article.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on May 13, 2020, 10:36:26 AM
Shame Matt Kendrick left the Mail. He was a good journalist.

Done a podcast here with Stephen Cooke who I remember being massively rated when I first started reading this forum. Was going to get proper chance under Graham Taylor but O'Leary didn't rate him one bit.



I don't know whether that was the case but - watching this - it's clear that injury and attitude did for him.
By attitude, I mean that he'd obviously been an amazing young player and had got used to being at MAnure and Villa and didn't fancy the smaller-club environment.
Interesting article.


I went to a small gathering years back when the 25 year anniversary of the European Cup win was being celebrated (just after Learner had arrived), a few of us in the Pepper Mill in Coleshill with Tony Morley and Sid.
Sid was asked about the best young player he's worked with at the club, and without hesitation he said it was Cooke, the way he'd been treated by O'Leary was a disgrace (he wasn't a fan of O'Leary at all), and that there's was no way a player with his ability should have been a jobbing lower league player where he'd get kicked all over the place.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: chrisw1 on May 13, 2020, 11:46:50 AM
Matt still does the Claret and Blue podcast with Ashley Preece and Dan Rollison.  They are all big Villa fans.  And they are all guilty of the absolute tripe that the clickbait website produces.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 13, 2020, 08:26:33 PM
Gregg Evans seems to have an interesting-looking piece with Tommy Elphick in The Athletic. If any subscribers fancy doing a cut and paste job that would be welcomed in the strongest terms in this pocket of West London.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 13, 2020, 09:02:12 PM
Gregg Evans seems to have an interesting-looking piece with Tommy Elphick in The Athletic. If any subscribers fancy doing a cut and paste job that would be welcomed in the strongest terms in this pocket of West London.
I think they have that interview with Tommy Elphick as a podcast from tomorrow which is free.

https://theathletic.com/podcast/146-1874/
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 13, 2020, 09:06:47 PM
Ta!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 18, 2020, 10:00:26 AM
Fcukin hell talk about desperate.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1283656/-
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: aj2k77 on May 18, 2020, 10:07:29 AM
That isn't even a story, more like something a teenager would knock up in his bedroom.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on May 18, 2020, 12:20:14 PM
That isn't even a story, more like something a teenager would knock up in his bedroom.

...to knock off to in his bedroom
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 18, 2020, 12:37:47 PM
The content reflects the stunningly shit layout of their website. Still, they occupy an important place in the market: catering for hateful arseholes whose reading age is somehow low enough to render the Daily Mail inaccessible.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on May 18, 2020, 12:54:18 PM
The content reflects the stunningly shit layout of their website. Still, they occupy an important place in the market: catering for hateful arseholes whose reading age is somehow low enough to render the Daily Mail inaccessible.

You'd think single cell amoeba would have better things to do with their time.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 27, 2020, 06:12:24 PM
Ah the Meaning Evil and our very own Villa supporting Joleon....a better cnut match you couldn't wish to meet.

Jack Grealish ‘has to leave’ Aston Villa and the club should ‘make it easy’ for him to complete a summer transfer.

England hopeful Grealish is a man in demand with Manchester United desperate to sign him, while a host of other top clubs are keeping tabs on him.

The midfielder has been Villa’s shining light in an otherwise mediocre campaign and his list of admirers continues to expand.

Doubts have now arisen over how much longer Villa will be able to hold onto their talisman. A recent report in the Mirror suggested Villa’s owners Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens will demand £80million for Grealish - even if they are relegated to the Championship.

Grealish’s former Villa teammate Joleon Lescott, however, believes Sawiris and Edens need to make the 24-year-old’s exit as simple as possible.

Speaking about Grealish’s future to The Beautiful Game Podcast, Lescott - who played for Villa in 2015/16 - said: “For him to move now, it’s not a bad decision. I don’t think any Villa fan would discourage him from leaving.


“They know he played a massive part in them getting promoted. If they stay up he’s played a massive part in that.

“(It would be wrong) to ridicule him now for leaving when he’s on the cusp of becoming a top player. He’s shown that he can perform in a team that doesn’t play to his strengths, so going to a team that does can only enhance his reputation.


“I think he has to leave. It’s going to be difficult now with the current scenario. I think if the season had finished normally he definitely would have left. There’d have been too much interest for him not to leave.

“Aston Villa should make that decision as easy as possible for him. It shouldn’t be done last minute where he potentially has to put in a transfer request. It should be: ‘This is what we want, give us this and you can have him.’

“Let him leave clean and leave his reputation intact so everybody knows, ‘Yeah, he did what he did for us, now go and do it for someone else’.”
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: AV82EC on May 27, 2020, 06:19:26 PM
Oh Joleon do Fuck Off.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 27, 2020, 06:22:20 PM
Lescott hates us these days so it's no surprise he's coming out with shit like that.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Richard E on May 27, 2020, 06:22:35 PM
Does this ‘logic’ just apply to Villa, or are eg Man City duty bound to ‘make it easy’ if Kevin de Bruyne decides he wants out because they are banned from Europe?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on May 27, 2020, 06:28:00 PM
Yes f-ck off lescott and the rag that pretends its local!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: CT on May 27, 2020, 06:47:49 PM
Yes f-ck off lescott and the rag that pretends its local!

This.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on May 27, 2020, 07:13:37 PM
Jolean, when we want your opinion, we'll ask!
Till then ...Fuck Off.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on May 27, 2020, 07:20:21 PM
All those slagging of The Mail for guaging Lescotts opinion on Villa matters. I remember a time last season when a regular contributor on Villa matters in our favourite local comic was everyone's favourite Fat Boy..Micky Quinn
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: chrisw1 on May 27, 2020, 07:30:23 PM
Where I agree with him is if we are prepared to sell we should just say 'this is the price if you pay it you can have him.'  It's just that that price should be a fuck-ton of money to reflect we would be selling our once in a generation player and one of the best English born players in the game.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: TaxDodger on May 27, 2020, 07:37:23 PM
Fuck off Joleon Lescott.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 27, 2020, 07:40:48 PM
Did he type that while his phone was in his pocket?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 27, 2020, 08:15:14 PM
Agree with Lescott: “Aston Villa should make that decision as easy as possible for him. It shouldn’t be done last minute where he potentially has to put in a transfer request. It should be: ‘This is what we want, give us this and you can have him.’

So anybody out their with £100m wanting Jack before the end of June can have him. Otherwise, fuck off.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 27, 2020, 09:40:14 PM
'England hopeful Grealish is a man in demand with Manchester United desperate to sign him, while a host of other top clubs are keeping tabs on him'

There we go. Where are the sub-editors these days? Guess they've been laid off so the Mail can afford the views of our worst Centre Back in living memory.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 27, 2020, 10:17:07 PM
Don't Buy The Mail, and DON'T LET THESE ****** INTO VILLA PARK. The stadium rules are quite clear that opposition fans should only sit in the designated away end.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: CT on May 27, 2020, 10:22:19 PM
Don't Buy The Mail, and DON'T LET THESE c***s INTO VILLA PARK. The stadium rules are quite clear that opposition fans should only sit in the designated away end.

For a publication that is so negative about us, I have to agree.

I’ve seen more truth in the Viz letters section.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 27, 2020, 10:24:48 PM
The Sunday Sport made up less stuff than that 'local' shitrag does.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 27, 2020, 11:20:53 PM
Where I agree with him is if we are prepared to sell we should just say 'this is the price if you pay it you can have him.'  It's just that that price should be a fuck-ton of money to reflect we would be selling our once in a generation player and one of the best English born players in the game.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 27, 2020, 11:26:32 PM
Where I agree with him is if we are prepared to sell we should just say 'this is the price if you pay it you can have him.'  It's just that that price should be a fuck-ton of money to reflect we would be selling our once in a generation player and one of the best English born players in the game.

Agreed.

That's not fair, though. Whereas Tottenham selling their players for overinflated sums is good business (no anti-semitism, Levy just happens to be a hard-nosed businessman) we should be grateful for the intetest. We're standing in our players' way. If anything, we should be paying Man Utd to buy them. That's what we'd do if we really cared about their chances of winning trophies and playing for England, surely?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 27, 2020, 11:46:42 PM
Where I agree with him is if we are prepared to sell we should just say 'this is the price if you pay it you can have him.'  It's just that that price should be a fuck-ton of money to reflect we would be selling our once in a generation player and one of the best English born players in the game.

Agreed.

That's not fair, though. Whereas Tottenham selling their players for overinflated sums is good business (no anti-semitism, Levy just happens to be a hard-nosed businessman) we should be grateful for the intetest. We're standing in our players' way. If anything, we should be paying Man Utd to buy them. That's what we'd do if we really cared about their chances of winning trophies and playing for England, surely?

I don't really care what the tabloid narrative around it is, or that of other clubs (although I take your point on Levy, and have made the very same point on here previously).
The truth is that every player has a price so, if he wants to go, we set that price, taking into consideration the three or four years he has left on his contract and his value to us. We don't negotiate. We don't answer the phone until the offer matches the price. Deal.

Edit: just realised you were joking. Sorry, long day!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on May 28, 2020, 10:13:55 AM
Lescott hates us these days so it's no surprise he's coming out with shit like that.

Judging by his goal celebrations against us during his career, I’d say the wanker always hated us.

No Villa fan would’ve behaved like that.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dicedlam on May 28, 2020, 10:26:31 AM
One way or another Jack is going to leave. However, Lescott should keep his bloody mouth shut.
Call me cynical, but it sounds like Lescott is trying to put pressure on the club on behalf of Jack to let his mate part amicably with the club, thereby not having to hand in a transfer request and forfeit his signing on fee.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: chrisw1 on May 28, 2020, 10:40:52 AM
Any player who agitates for a move but is not prepared to put in a transfer request is a ******.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 28, 2020, 01:33:02 PM
Where I agree with him is if we are prepared to sell we should just say 'this is the price if you pay it you can have him.'  It's just that that price should be a fuck-ton of money to reflect we would be selling our once in a generation player and one of the best English born players in the game.

Agreed.

That's not fair, though. Whereas Tottenham selling their players for overinflated sums is good business (no anti-semitism, Levy just happens to be a hard-nosed businessman) we should be grateful for the intetest. We're standing in our players' way. If anything, we should be paying Man Utd to buy them. That's what we'd do if we really cared about their chances of winning trophies and playing for England, surely?

I don't really care what the tabloid narrative around it is, or that of other clubs (although I take your point on Levy, and have made the very same point on here previously).
The truth is that every player has a price so, if he wants to go, we set that price, taking into consideration the three or four years he has left on his contract and his value to us. We don't negotiate. We don't answer the phone until the offer matches the price. Deal.

Edit: just realised you were joking. Sorry, long day!

Haha, no worries  :)

I agree, by the way.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 29, 2020, 01:24:43 AM
Is this Levy the same guy as the genius who could have signed Grealish for about £10m two years ago?

WHOOPS!!!!!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Somniloquism on May 30, 2020, 09:50:31 AM
Lescott hates us these days so it's no surprise he's coming out with shit like that.

Judging by his goal celebrations against us during his career, I’d say the wanker always hated us.

No Villa fan would’ve behaved like that.

I had heard from a Wolves fan back in the day that Joleon was pissed off with Villa as we apparently treated Aaron badly behind the scenes at some point.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Exeter 77 on May 30, 2020, 11:42:31 AM
Lescott hates us these days so it's no surprise he's coming out with shit like that.

Judging by his goal celebrations against us during his career, I’d say the wanker always hated us.

No Villa fan would’ve behaved like that.

I had heard from a Wolves fan back in the day that Joleon was pissed off with Villa as we apparently treated Aaron badly behind the scenes at some point.
Was that his excuse for playing like Titus Bramble on Mogadon for his season with us?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Somniloquism on May 30, 2020, 01:48:48 PM
Probably, screws us out of money whilst playing poorly. Double win for him.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 30, 2020, 11:50:48 PM
I can't bring myself to hate Lescott. I don't care enough about him. He was just another in the long list of players we shouldn't have bothered signing.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: brian green on May 31, 2020, 07:22:02 AM
Is the correct answer.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on May 31, 2020, 09:13:05 AM
I can't bring myself to hate Lescott. I don't care enough about him. He was just another in the long list of players we shouldn't have bothered signing.

I was just amazed we signed him when we did, his legs had clearly gone when a fading Gabby had rinsed him in the cup game.

If ever a signed was an indicator of where we were, that was it. Knackered local veterens leave Villa to go to the likes of West Brom, not the other way around.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 31, 2020, 10:13:47 AM
The same when we signed the likes of Kieron Richardson and that other bloke that used to play for Arsenal.  Oh and Given.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 31, 2020, 05:01:13 PM
I can't bring myself to hate Lescott. I don't care enough about him. He was just another in the long list of players we shouldn't have bothered signing.


It was a stupid signing. He was 33 when we signed him and you could tell from his previous season at Albion that he was way past his best. I always rated him but every time I saw him play for Albion in live SKY games in 2014-2015 he was clearly way past his best.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 31, 2020, 07:38:24 PM
Remembering Kieran Richardson has just made me think of the range of utterly horrifically shit players we signed for years prior to finally going down. When you think of some of those, the only element of surprise is that we managed to avoid it for so long.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Aldridge Villa on May 31, 2020, 08:02:05 PM
Given still gives me the shudders. An utterly pointless signing.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 31, 2020, 08:19:55 PM
A number of signings seemed strange/unlikely to be successful at the time we bought them and sure enough proved to be unsuccessful. Others seemed to be decent signings at the time but soon proved otherwise. A real bugbear of mine was 'Concrete f*cking Ron'. I called him 'Blamonge Ron'. Looking back it should have been 'Sicknote Ron'.

Roy Keane, what was that all about? I was drinking a lot at the time and sometimes have to Google him to check he was involved with us at the time and I hadn't just imagined it.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on May 31, 2020, 08:25:14 PM
Given still gives me the shudders. An utterly pointless signing.


Are you suggesting we didn't actually need a goalkeeper due to the fact we played such attacking football under McLeish the opposition never got into our half?  ;)
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Aldridge Villa on May 31, 2020, 08:26:01 PM
I know what you mean Damo. I too at times have Keane registered as a figment of my imagination as Asst Mgr. Can’t even picture him ranting on the sidelines. But alas he did materialise , albeit briefly.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 31, 2020, 08:37:49 PM
Given still gives me the shudders. An utterly pointless signing.

Age 52, 27 year contract.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 31, 2020, 08:38:47 PM
I know what you mean Damo. I too at times have Keane registered as a figment of my imagination as Asst Mgr. Can’t even picture him ranting on the sidelines. But alas he did materialise , albeit briefly.

In all the bad years we've had of late, this photograph really for me represents the absolute pits.

(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Ian. on May 31, 2020, 08:50:15 PM
I know what you mean Damo. I too at times have Keane registered as a figment of my imagination as Asst Mgr. Can’t even picture him ranting on the sidelines. But alas he did materialise , albeit briefly.

In all the bad years we've had of late, this photograph really for me represents the absolute pits.

(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)
Those were the days.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 31, 2020, 08:53:46 PM
Just look at the state of them two.  Vagrantesque beards.  Is it any wonder we were utterly unprofessional for years before we went down.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 31, 2020, 10:51:40 PM
Just look at the state of them two.  Vagrantesque beards.  Is it any wonder we were utterly unprofessional for years before we went down.

Like a couple of piss soaked hobos waiting for a bus to shout at.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rico on June 01, 2020, 07:46:25 AM
Doing their usual click bate bullshit this morning. (Gutted that I fell for it.)  Utd fans convinced they've got him (picture of Grealish). Turns out not to be him at all. They really are a disgrace.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on June 01, 2020, 10:37:53 AM
I know what you mean Damo. I too at times have Keane registered as a figment of my imagination as Asst Mgr. Can’t even picture him ranting on the sidelines. But alas he did materialise , albeit briefly.

In all the bad years we've had of late, this photograph really for me represents the absolute pits.

(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)

It's a David Squires cartoon in itself, that photo.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on June 01, 2020, 03:35:53 PM
I know what you mean Damo. I too at times have Keane registered as a figment of my imagination as Asst Mgr. Can’t even picture him ranting on the sidelines. But alas he did materialise , albeit briefly.

In all the bad years we've had of late, this photograph really for me represents the absolute pits.

(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)

It's a David Squires cartoon in itself, that photo.



I recall saying a quick hello to Lambert and Keane in the car park after a pre season friendly at Walsall.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on June 01, 2020, 04:17:38 PM
I know what you mean Damo. I too at times have Keane registered as a figment of my imagination as Asst Mgr. Can’t even picture him ranting on the sidelines. But alas he did materialise , albeit briefly.

In all the bad years we've had of late, this photograph really for me represents the absolute pits.

(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)

It's a David Squires cartoon in itself, that photo.



I recall saying a quick hello to Lambert and Keane in the car park after a pre season friendly at Walsall.

Did they reply by asking if you had any spare change/fags?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Exeter 77 on June 01, 2020, 04:53:22 PM
I know what you mean Damo. I too at times have Keane registered as a figment of my imagination as Asst Mgr. Can’t even picture him ranting on the sidelines. But alas he did materialise , albeit briefly.

In all the bad years we've had of late, this photograph really for me represents the absolute pits.

(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)

It's a David Squires cartoon in itself, that photo.
Someone at the time he joined and with that beard suggested Keane had been living ferrally on Bodymoor Heath.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on June 15, 2020, 11:03:11 AM
This is barely even related to Villa: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-player-jack-grealish-18420642

I don't know how they get away with it.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Mister E on June 15, 2020, 12:36:58 PM
(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)

It's like they went into lockdown a few years before the rest of us.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: rob_bridge on June 17, 2020, 10:24:54 AM
This is barely even related to Villa: https://www.xxxx.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-player-jack-grealish-18420642

I don't know how they get away with it.

Very good player linked with Big Rich Club.

Wow what a story.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on June 17, 2020, 01:18:33 PM
Which Man Utd player he may replace. That's a story for the MEN, not the Birmingham Mail. If he does leave, I couldn't give a toss which Man Utd player he replaces.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on June 17, 2020, 01:26:55 PM
(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)

It's like they went into lockdown a few years before the rest of us.


They both went into meltdown before the rest of us too. McLeish, Keane, Garde, Sherwood. Sometimes I think I imagined all of them being connected to Villa due to how much I was drinking at the time. There are quite a few players I think I may have just imagined played for us too, especially in the Lambert years.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: DB on June 18, 2020, 01:59:30 PM
Check out Gregg Evans new story today just read via Twitter. What a sh*t stirring Boggy.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Villafirst on July 25, 2020, 12:57:43 PM
I see the rag is trying to sell Douglas Luiz to Arsenal now! Apparently, Arse fans going 'wild' Obviously they've already sold Jack!
They never seem to tout any Wolves players for transfers?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 25, 2020, 01:31:46 PM
Noone cares about Wolves players.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Damo70 on July 25, 2020, 01:47:58 PM
Noone cares about Wolves players.


Wasn't Noone a member of Herman's Hermits?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 25, 2020, 01:49:24 PM
He was. I'm unable to confirm whether he once beat a Hungarian team in a friendly, though.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: steamer on July 25, 2020, 04:04:38 PM
the latest one i saw after not looking for a while was, news now AV saying Luis was just the player Everton needed to replace Gueye.
We must thank there superior bodies for deemng to consider our best players could improve their team.
your humble servant.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on July 26, 2020, 12:07:58 AM
Oh yeah. Thanks to the Birmingham Mail I now know that:

- Grealish is ideal for Man Utd
- Mings is just what Tottenham need
- Luiz will be perfect in Arsenal's midfield
- McGinn would fit in great at Newcastle
- Heaton would be a brilliant addition for Leeds

It's good to know they want to see us do well.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: purpletrousers on July 26, 2020, 01:41:15 AM
I know what you mean Damo. I too at times have Keane registered as a figment of my imagination as Asst Mgr. Can’t even picture him ranting on the sidelines. But alas he did materialise , albeit briefly.

In all the bad years we've had of late, this photograph really for me represents the absolute pits.

(https://i2-prod.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/article8890931.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Premiership-3pm-Kick-offs.jpg)

It's a David Squires cartoon in itself, that photo.

Now I know he’s a Villa man, this is pure Cold War Steve territory surely!
If it goes pear shaped tomorrow I shall be tweeting him this pic requesting a remix. You could really have a painful rogues gallery of recent sad looking villa managers.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Richard on July 26, 2020, 09:24:39 AM
I’ve been trying to work out in that photo who is next to Jack on the bench behind ?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: FrankyH on July 26, 2020, 09:35:44 AM
I’ve been trying to work out in that photo who is next to Jack on the bench behind ?

Matthew Lowton ?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 15, 2023, 01:51:41 PM
Ashley Preece stepping down from the Villa beat at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: chrisw1 on May 15, 2023, 02:05:31 PM
Ashley Preece stepping down from the Villa beat at the end of the season.
Hopefully they'll get someone a bit more literate but I guess it's a pretty low budget that they have to work with.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Somniloquism on May 15, 2023, 02:14:04 PM
Local Journos nowadays are employed on the terms of reporting on items appearing on Twitter.

"Look what fans are saying about......"
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Footy-Vill on May 15, 2023, 02:16:55 PM
Always found Preece to be well informed and a good reporter on Villa news. Decent.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 15, 2023, 02:19:42 PM
Apparently, they want to get a Spanish speaking journo in to facilitate comms with Villa.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithe on May 15, 2023, 02:21:59 PM
Local Journos nowadays are employed on the terms of reporting on items appearing on Twitter.

"Look what fans are saying about......"

And scouring Trip Advisor for poor reviews of local restaurants and pubs.

Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Risso on May 15, 2023, 02:23:10 PM
Ashley Preece stepping down from the Villa beat at the end of the season.
Hopefully they'll get someone a bit more literate but I guess it's a pretty low budget that they have to work with.

I don't mind him to be honest, he's better than Gregggggg was there. Gregggggggggggggg's better now at his new job though.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 15, 2023, 02:27:07 PM
Ashley Preece stepping down from the Villa beat at the end of the season.
Hopefully they'll get someone a bit more literate but I guess it's a pretty low budget that they have to work with.

I don't mind him to be honest, he's better than Gregggggg was there. Gregggggggggggggg's better now at his new job though.

GregggGgggGGGggggGGGgggggGGGGGggg is alright, he sometimes lets his stripeyness shine through inadvertently, though.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Matt C on May 15, 2023, 02:51:46 PM
Ashley Preece stepping down from the Villa beat at the end of the season.
Hopefully they'll get someone a bit more literate but I guess it's a pretty low budget that they have to work with.

I don't mind him to be honest, he's better than Gregggggg was there. Gregggggggggggggg's better now at his new job though.

GregggGgggGGGggggGGGgggggGGGGGggg is alright, he sometimes lets his stripeyness shine through inadvertently, though.

Can’t help himself, like when he reported with glee what Wolves fans were singing the other week.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: eamonn on May 15, 2023, 03:32:40 PM
Where's Ashley off to?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Drummond on May 15, 2023, 03:33:52 PM
Where's Ashley off to?

Wants weekends off so is going back to the news desk.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: darren woolley on May 15, 2023, 04:07:27 PM
I've met Ash a few times nice bloke.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Footy-Vill on May 15, 2023, 06:05:39 PM
I've had digital encounters and he's always encouraging.
Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave shelley on May 15, 2023, 06:22:30 PM
I've had shingles.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: eamonn on May 15, 2023, 06:29:36 PM
Digital Shingles!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave shelley on May 15, 2023, 06:35:47 PM
Blu-Ray, or so the doctor said.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: KevinGage on May 15, 2023, 06:42:40 PM
I've had digital encounters and he's always encouraging.
Good luck to him.

What happens between consenting adults etc.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Drummond on May 15, 2023, 06:43:12 PM
I've had digital encounters and he's always encouraging.
Good luck to him.

Ah, yes, I hope he didn't get you to do anything you weren't comfortable with.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 15, 2023, 07:20:42 PM
I've had digital encounters and he's always encouraging.
Good luck to him.

Ah, yes, I hope he didn't get you to do anything you weren't comfortable with.

He might have to change his name to Smutty-Vill.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 15, 2023, 07:28:42 PM
I've had digital encounters and he's always encouraging.
Good luck to him.

Ah, yes, I hope he didn't get you to do anything you weren't comfortable with.

If you get any of those email giving you 24 hours to give bitcoin ignore them I do. 
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Steve67 on May 15, 2023, 08:10:22 PM
I've had digital encounters and he's always encouraging.
Good luck to him.

Sorry, but that just sounds wrong!  (joke)
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 16, 2023, 01:09:24 AM
Ashley Preece stepping down from the Villa beat at the end of the season.
Hopefully they'll get someone a bit more literate but I guess it's a pretty low budget that they have to work with.

I don't mind him to be honest, he's better than Gregggggg was there. Gregggggggggggggg's better now at his new job though.

GregggGgggGGGggggGGGgggggGGGGGggg is alright, he sometimes lets his stripeyness shine through inadvertently, though.

This reminds me of when everyone found out GreG Wallace is a mastertwat. I love it when someone you irrationally dislike proves themselves to be a bit of a prick, you feel like your 6th sense is working.

https://twitter.com/RobbieMorton/status/330749259660021760?t=UETR7zlhbJSxvFXC834YmQ&s=19
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 16, 2023, 07:42:42 AM
I don’t do Twitter speak, what does that mean?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave shelley on May 16, 2023, 08:24:16 AM
I don’t do Twitter speak, what does that mean?

That Gregg Wallace is a c**t.  A bloke is doing a charity cycle for McMillan Cancer Trust and asked Wallace for a re-tweet.  He got a single word response  'Gregg'.  The bloke asking for the re-tweet only used two as in Greg.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Dogtanian on May 16, 2023, 08:37:26 AM
I don't know whether Gregg Wallace is a dick or not. I do know that anyone who says 'choclit' should not be presenting a cooking program.

As for the tweet, the guy asking comes across as big as a twat to me. If you're going to ask someone for a favour, at least take two seconds to look at their name. And the charity may have been better served had he responded with politeness and got the re-tweet rather than chucking his toys out the pram to make himself look cool to twitter idiots.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Somniloquism on May 16, 2023, 08:52:25 AM
I don't know whether Gregg Wallace is a dick or not. I do know that anyone who says 'choclit' should not be presenting a cooking program.

As for the tweet, the guy asking comes across as big as a twat to me. If you're going to ask someone for a favour, at least take two seconds to look at their name. And the charity may have been better served had he responded with politeness and got the re-tweet rather than chucking his toys out the pram to make himself look cool to twitter idiots.

Back in 2013, tweet character lengths were restricted down to 118 characters with links. Yes, the OP could have shrunk down the rest of the wording slightly to get the extra G, however it should have been enough for most people to forward on rather then get pissy their name was missing one superfluous letter.

And I would think the fact that GreG's response went viral at the time probably meant he got more publicity from GreG's pissery then from the retweets which are 10 a penny so  I believe the charity was well served.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on May 16, 2023, 08:58:40 AM
Met Ash a few times, he is a good guy.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 09:52:04 AM
Ashley Preece stepping down from the Villa beat at the end of the season.
Hopefully they'll get someone a bit more literate but I guess it's a pretty low budget that they have to work with.

I don't mind him to be honest, he's better than Gregggggg was there. Gregggggggggggggg's better now at his new job though.

GregggGgggGGGggggGGGgggggGGGGGggg is alright, he sometimes lets his stripeyness shine through inadvertently, though.

This reminds me of when everyone found out GreG Wallace is a mastertwat. I love it when someone you irrationally dislike proves themselves to be a bit of a prick, you feel like your 6th sense is working.

https://twitter.com/RobbieMorton/status/330749259660021760?t=UETR7zlhbJSxvFXC834YmQ&s=19

That twat is exactly what I think of with the double g thing.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 09:53:30 AM
Doesn’t Mastertwat have a ‘colourful’ background as an enjoyer of football?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Risso on May 16, 2023, 09:57:48 AM
Doesn’t Mastertwat have a ‘colourful’ background as an enjoyer of football?

Yep, convicted hooligan. They had one episode years ago where they had a challenge doing some catering in the kitchens for hospitality at Chelsea. He wasn't filmed in the ground, presumably because he's got a banning order.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 10:07:25 AM
Ha ha, what a turbocunt.

Or turbotcunt as it may be in this case.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rigadon on May 16, 2023, 10:10:07 AM
Ha ha, what a turbocunt.

Or turbotcunt as it may be in this case.

There goes my tea over the keyboard
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Risso on May 16, 2023, 10:20:13 AM
And he can't say 'turmeric' properly.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: boozey182 on May 16, 2023, 10:30:14 AM
He's also incredibly sensitive about his height... In an old job I was selling books at the Good Food show and he was there doing a book signing. They'd set him up on a stool next to a high table and he got in a right old tizz about it. I guess he didn't like his little legs dangling down. (I'm 5ft 6, so I feel like it's okay to comment on this).

The next day they had to get in a new desk with a chair and he was sickeningly pleasant to everyone about it. I didn't know he was a Chelsea hooligan - I didn't think he could get much lower in my estimation. The little prick.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Nev on May 16, 2023, 10:31:34 AM
Masterchef, rather like Place In The Sun, Come Dine With Me etc etc seems to be permanently on the telly.

And he is a fucking twat. I sid him on that Factory programme dressed like a ****** where he shouts inane things above the sound of the machinery to a bored looking worker "It's drilling a series of holes isn't it?"

"yes"
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Risso on May 16, 2023, 10:39:23 AM
He's also incredibly sensitive about his height... In an old job I was selling books at the Good Food show and he was there doing a book signing. They'd set him up on a stool next to a high table and he got in a right old tizz about it. I guess he didn't like his little legs dangling down. (I'm 5ft 6, so I feel like it's okay to comment on this).

The next day they had to get in a new desk with a chair and he was sickeningly pleasant to everyone about it. I didn't know he was a Chelsea hooligan - I didn't think he could get much lower in my estimation. The little prick.

He's a Millwall fan. He just wasn't allowed in at Chelsea.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 16, 2023, 10:56:39 AM
Ha ha, what a turbocunt.

Or turbotcunt as it may be in this case.

Ha, they do like a bit of turbot on MasterChef. I don't mind him, he's one of those presenters that I quite like on the telly even though I suspect he may be bit of a tw@t off it (see also Jay Rayner and Giles Coren).
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Drummond on May 16, 2023, 10:58:18 AM
I'm surprised he's so precious about that spelling, given most people's thought process will link it to sausage rolls.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: paul_e on May 16, 2023, 11:07:01 AM
Ha ha, what a turbocunt.

Or turbotcunt as it may be in this case.

Ha, they do like a bit of turbot on MasterChef. I don't mind him, he's one of those presenters that I quite like on the telly even though I suspect he may be bit of a tw@t off it (see also Jay Rayner and Giles Coren).

Jay Rayner was ok when I met him, seemed a decent enough guy and I'd always found him a bit of a twat on TV/in print, whilst on the subject Grace Dent was great and William Sitwell is an arse.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 16, 2023, 11:07:54 AM
Jay Rayner always comes across as decent. Giles Coren doesn't.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Dogtanian on May 16, 2023, 11:12:36 AM
I like Jay Rayner. But mostly because I always imagine him as number 2 on The Prisoner.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 11:23:49 AM
Jay Rayner always comes across as decent. Giles Coren doesn't.

Agree with this, Rayner seems to be a more than decent bloke.

Giles Coren is one of the biggest silver-spoon, sneering nasty ****** anywhere in the media.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Nev on May 16, 2023, 01:15:46 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 16, 2023, 02:35:48 PM
Jay Rayner always comes across as decent. Giles Coren doesn't.

Agree with this, Rayner seems to be a more than decent bloke.

Giles Coren is one of the biggest silver-spoon, sneering nasty ****** anywhere in the media.

Giles is an objectionable c**t. Look up his weird fake twitter accounts and his frankly odd description of his young daughter's lips. He's a really weird bloke.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 16, 2023, 06:42:19 PM
Yes. Rayner is a good lad. Coren is a horrible c-word, while his sister is one of the many loves of my life.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Simon Page on May 16, 2023, 08:18:55 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with. Boy Coren on the other hand...
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Nev on May 16, 2023, 08:31:12 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with. Boy Coren on the other hand...

I couldn't agree more about Dent, it's exactly what makes her a BB.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 08:33:13 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with. Boy Coren on the other hand...

I saw GD on a sunday morning show recently and she sounded shitfaced.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Simon Page on May 16, 2023, 08:33:49 PM
Ahhh. I get you now, Nev.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 08:33:53 PM
Yes. Rayner is a good lad. Coren is a horrible c-word, while his sister is one of the many loves of my life.

I used to love her, too, I thought she was perfect.

But then she started doing that singing thing plus the entirely unfunny, nonsensical opening and closing monologues on Only Connect, and it was enough to put me off her.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 16, 2023, 08:37:20 PM
I like Coren-Mitchell, but I don't like Only Connect. It's as if someone watched University Challenge and thought 'how can we make this even more smug?'
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Simon Page on May 16, 2023, 08:40:38 PM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on May 16, 2023, 08:43:40 PM
I like Coren-Mitchell, but I don't like Only Connect. It's as if someone watched University Challenge and thought 'how can we make this even more smug?'

Thank you brother, it's toss
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 08:44:55 PM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 16, 2023, 08:49:22 PM
I like Coren-Mitchell, but I don't like Only Connect. It's as if someone watched University Challenge and thought 'how can we make this even more smug?'


Was it you that wrote in to complain about the pretentiousness of using Greek letters?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 08:50:11 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

She looks too scrawny, and just a bit too 'crystal meth' these days.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on May 16, 2023, 08:51:48 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with. Boy Coren on the other hand...
Yeah there's a couple of things I really like about her. Nudge nudge.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 16, 2023, 08:52:28 PM
I like Coren-Mitchell, but I don't like Only Connect. It's as if someone watched University Challenge and thought 'how can we make this even more smug?'


Was it you that wrote in to complain about the pretentiousness of using Greek letters?

Might've been, although I think I said 'funny forin squiggles' rather than 'Greek letters'.

We're supposed to have Brexit-ed!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 16, 2023, 08:53:42 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with. Boy Coren on the other hand...
Yeah there's a couple of things I really like about her. Nudge nudge.

Her mind and her husband, presumably?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Lastfootstamper on May 16, 2023, 08:55:38 PM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.


Worth a full five points, I think. I'm pretty sure that's how many I awarded myself after shouting "FOOTBALL FANZINES, FOOTBALL FANZINES" at the telly.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 16, 2023, 08:55:56 PM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.

I like it, and it's possibly the best quiz show on TV.

*even if the missing letters round is the only round I'm good at.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 16, 2023, 08:56:48 PM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.


Worth a full five points, I think. I'm pretty sure that's how many I awarded myself after shouting "FOOTBALL FANZINES, FOOTBALL FANZINES" at the telly.

Yeah, I did the same. My Mrs looked really irritated.

She calls this place 'Angels and Demons', mockingly.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on May 16, 2023, 08:58:23 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with. Boy Coren on the other hand...
Yeah there's a couple of things I really like about her. Nudge nudge.

Her mind and her husband, presumably?

Being her husband must be a decent gig, freeloading your way around the finest restaurants without having to bother writing about it.

My late father in law used to insure many curry houses and I got scores of free curries out of it across the Midlands.

Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Brazilian Villain on May 16, 2023, 08:58:54 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with.

I agree, she's definitely got a certain something about her, although not quite to Amanda Abbington levels.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: The Edge on May 16, 2023, 08:59:41 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with. Boy Coren on the other hand...
Yeah there's a couple of things I really like about her. Nudge nudge.

Her mind and her husband, presumably?
You got me
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 16, 2023, 09:01:36 PM
Grace Dent is the best example of a boderline boiler I have ever seen.

I think she's smart and funny and imagine she'd be exceptionally good fun to have a beer with. Boy Coren on the other hand...
Yeah there's a couple of things I really like about her. Nudge nudge.

Her mind and her husband, presumably?
You got me

Sorry, thought we were talking about Coren-Mitchell. Comment withdrawn.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 16, 2023, 09:02:18 PM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.


Worth a full five points, I think. I'm pretty sure that's how many I awarded myself after shouting "FOOTBALL FANZINES, FOOTBALL FANZINES" at the telly.

Yeah, I did the same. My Mrs looked really irritated.

She calls this place 'Angels and Demons', mockingly.

I've said this before on here, but when she sees H&V open, my wife says "aw, are you playing with your internet boyfriends again?" It's just the right level of scorn.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 16, 2023, 09:03:43 PM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.


Worth a full five points, I think. I'm pretty sure that's how many I awarded myself after shouting "FOOTBALL FANZINES, FOOTBALL FANZINES" at the telly.

Yeah, I did the same. My Mrs looked really irritated.

She calls this place 'Angels and Demons', mockingly.

I've said this before on here, but when she sees H&V open, my wife says "aw, are you playing with your internet boyfriends again?" It's just the right level of scorn.

BoyfriendS?

I thought we were exclusive?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 16, 2023, 09:07:08 PM
There's only one of me, Rory, and many hundreds of podgy middle-aged men in their bedrooms that want a tiny piece of me. You do the math



ematics.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Rory on May 16, 2023, 09:11:31 PM
There's only one of me, Rory, and many hundreds of podgy middle-aged men in their bedrooms that want a tiny piece of me. You do the math



ematics.

How dare you, I'm not (quite) middle-aged.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Dante Lavelli on May 16, 2023, 09:12:25 PM
I've had digital encounters and he's always encouraging.
Good luck to him.

Which Ashley are you talking about here, Preece or Young?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: purpletrousers on May 16, 2023, 11:53:44 PM
I've had digital encounters and he's always encouraging.
Good luck to him.

Which Ashley are you talking about here, Preece or Young?

I had to go back a couple of pages but glad you chaps had all the age inappropriate comments covered, good to see standards maintained while I’ve been busy ;)
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 17, 2023, 12:21:36 AM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.

I like it, and it's possibly the best quiz show on TV.

*even if the missing letters round is the only round I'm good at.

I love it but I absolutely have to fast forward the singing. I cringe so hard that my balls retract so much they enter another dimension. I have no idea why she likes it so much.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 17, 2023, 12:41:07 AM
The Claret and Blue youtube podcast is decent - but I'm not sure how Reach/Evening Mail make any money from it, as I can't see that it drives people to their website or the paper itself.

Even if it did drive you to the website, you'd better have a good adblocker!
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 17, 2023, 12:51:54 AM
The Claret and Blue youtube podcast is decent - but I'm not sure how Reach/Evening Mail make any money from it, as I can't see that it drives people to their website or the paper itself.

Even if it did drive you to the website, you'd better have a good adblocker!

If you get over a certain number of views per video (don't know what the number is) you get ad revenue straight from YouTube.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: boozey182 on May 17, 2023, 09:40:48 AM
I auditioned to be on Only Connect once. It was for one of the early series, when it seemed like an attainable goal as not many people watched it. Me, my brother and my mate went up to Manchester one Saturday morning for it, but the night before we had got absolutely smashed in Snobs, so we were still drunk on the train going up. When we got there, they were running late, so we went across the road to a pub to 'settle our nerves'/top up the already dangerously high levels of alcohol in our systems. Anyway, when we got in there, before they started with the questions, we had to explain how we knew each other - what our 'connection' was. As team captain, my brother looked at me and said "well, he's my brother, so when I was 3 my Mum just brought someone home" to which I replied "yeah, and nine months later, I was born". The combination of alcohol and nerves led me to find this the funniest thing I had ever said, so I spent the rest of the audition chuckling at my own joke.

We didn't get on.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: LeeB on May 17, 2023, 09:41:59 AM
That's a great story
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 17, 2023, 10:12:38 AM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.

I like it, and it's possibly the best quiz show on TV.

*even if the missing letters round is the only round I'm good at.

I love it but I absolutely have to fast forward the singing. I cringe so hard that my balls retract so much they enter another dimension. I have no idea why she likes it so much.

We do exactly the same.

It's the reason we never watch it live, we miss the first minute or two then watch from the start so we've got room to fast forward through the hideous singing parts, and the equally awful monologues she does, which are the least funny things on television.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 17, 2023, 10:13:07 AM
I auditioned to be on Only Connect once. It was for one of the early series, when it seemed like an attainable goal as not many people watched it. Me, my brother and my mate went up to Manchester one Saturday morning for it, but the night before we had got absolutely smashed in Snobs, so we were still drunk on the train going up. When we got there, they were running late, so we went across the road to a pub to 'settle our nerves'/top up the already dangerously high levels of alcohol in our systems. Anyway, when we got in there, before they started with the questions, we had to explain how we knew each other - what our 'connection' was. As team captain, my brother looked at me and said "well, he's my brother, so when I was 3 my Mum just brought someone home" to which I replied "yeah, and nine months later, I was born". The combination of alcohol and nerves led me to find this the funniest thing I had ever said, so I spent the rest of the audition chuckling at my own joke.

We didn't get on.

*applause*

excellent.

Someone from here was actually on it, I seem to recall.

Martyn Smith maybe?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: PeterWithe on May 17, 2023, 10:51:00 AM
Doesn’t Mastertwat have a ‘colourful’ background as an enjoyer of football?

Yep, convicted hooligan. They had one episode years ago where they had a challenge doing some catering in the kitchens for hospitality at Chelsea. He wasn't filmed in the ground, presumably because he's got a banning order.

I think I read he was in his teens on the only occasion he was nicked at Millwall, I'd guess he's in his early 60s now (?). Were there banning orders forty years ago and if so would they have lasted until he was presenting Masterchef? Only ever heard of 10 year bans.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 17, 2023, 11:07:37 AM
Doesn’t Mastertwat have a ‘colourful’ background as an enjoyer of football?

Yep, convicted hooligan. They had one episode years ago where they had a challenge doing some catering in the kitchens for hospitality at Chelsea. He wasn't filmed in the ground, presumably because he's got a banning order.

I think I read he was in his teens on the only occasion he was nicked at Millwall, I'd guess he's in his early 60s now (?). Were there banning orders forty years ago and if so would they have lasted until he was presenting Masterchef? Only ever heard of 10 year bans.

Ther were bans then although they tended to be club-specific and not as long as there are now but it's good for the image innit?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: eamonn on May 17, 2023, 12:11:19 PM
Angels and Demons! Best misnomer since Murders & Executions (Mergers & Acqs.).
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Percy McCarthy on May 17, 2023, 03:33:42 PM
I auditioned to be on Only Connect once. It was for one of the early series, when it seemed like an attainable goal as not many people watched it. Me, my brother and my mate went up to Manchester one Saturday morning for it, but the night before we had got absolutely smashed in Snobs, so we were still drunk on the train going up. When we got there, they were running late, so we went across the road to a pub to 'settle our nerves'/top up the already dangerously high levels of alcohol in our systems. Anyway, when we got in there, before they started with the questions, we had to explain how we knew each other - what our 'connection' was. As team captain, my brother looked at me and said "well, he's my brother, so when I was 3 my Mum just brought someone home" to which I replied "yeah, and nine months later, I was born". The combination of alcohol and nerves led me to find this the funniest thing I had ever said, so I spent the rest of the audition chuckling at my own joke.

We didn't get on.

Excellent, haha.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 18, 2023, 12:15:33 AM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.

I like it, and it's possibly the best quiz show on TV.

*even if the missing letters round is the only round I'm good at.

I love it but I absolutely have to fast forward the singing. I cringe so hard that my balls retract so much they enter another dimension. I have no idea why she likes it so much.

We do exactly the same.

It's the reason we never watch it live, we miss the first minute or two then watch from the start so we've got room to fast forward through the hideous singing parts, and the equally awful monologues she does, which are the least funny things on television.

I can't remember the last time I heard one of her monologues either as I do the same and as soon as I know the score it's off before she can do her bit at the end. It's strange as I actually still really like her and I'm weirdly happy she's with David considering I don't know them.

Apart from sport though I never watch anything live. Entertainment shows have too much bullshit filler in them so I can say I like a show but really I've probably cut the run time by at least 30%.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 18, 2023, 05:31:45 PM
The main headline in Birmingham Live today was around how all his little pals were congratulating Joe on getting to the CL final.  That belongs in the MEN not here you twats.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: astonvilla82 on May 18, 2023, 09:00:19 PM
The main headline in Birmingham Live today was around how all his little pals were congratulating Joe on getting to the CL final.  That belongs in the MEN not here you twats.
You mean we don't do the Bellingham love in type of thing
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Martyn Smith on May 21, 2023, 05:14:51 PM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.

I like it, and it's possibly the best quiz show on TV.

*even if the missing letters round is the only round I'm good at.

I love it but I absolutely have to fast forward the singing. I cringe so hard that my balls retract so much they enter another dimension. I have no idea why she likes it so much.

We do exactly the same.

It's the reason we never watch it live, we miss the first minute or two then watch from the start so we've got room to fast forward through the hideous singing parts, and the equally awful monologues she does, which are the least funny things on television.

I can't remember the last time I heard one of her monologues either as I do the same and as soon as I know the score it's off before she can do her bit at the end. It's strange as I actually still really like her and I'm weirdly happy she's with David considering I don't know them.

Apart from sport though I never watch anything live. Entertainment shows have too much bullshit filler in them so I can say I like a show but really I've probably cut the run time by at least 30%.

And at least one member of this parish has been a contestant...https://youtu.be/PAk1SIm97Mo

...I agree about the singing. I always try and fast forwarded to exactly the point where it finishes and am usually not far off. The intro and outro...these can be slyly funny at times although there are at least as many misses as hits
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Martyn Smith on May 21, 2023, 05:26:09 PM
I like Coren-Mitchell, but I don't like Only Connect. It's as if someone watched University Challenge and thought 'how can we make this even more smug?'


Was it you that wrote in to complain about the pretentiousness of using Greek letters?

Might've been, although I think I said 'funny forin squiggles' rather than 'Greek letters'.

We're supposed to have Brexit-ed!

The first 3 series only used Greek letters. I was on Series 4. As I recall one episode of that series began with VC saying that the programme had received a letter from a viewer opining that the usage of Greek letters to label series was pretentious, that the show completely agreed with this sentiment, and so in response to this they were going to start using...Egyptian hieroglyphs...
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: villabear on May 21, 2023, 06:48:36 PM
I really like Only Connect. The series that has just finished is worth watching for the reaction in the final of the losing team captain. Comedy gold.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 22, 2023, 12:28:27 AM
You're wrong. Only Connect is the best show on TV, possibly ever.

And what's more, this very fanzine was once a clue on it.

I like it, and it's possibly the best quiz show on TV.

*even if the missing letters round is the only round I'm good at.

I love it but I absolutely have to fast forward the singing. I cringe so hard that my balls retract so much they enter another dimension. I have no idea why she likes it so much.

We do exactly the same.

It's the reason we never watch it live, we miss the first minute or two then watch from the start so we've got room to fast forward through the hideous singing parts, and the equally awful monologues she does, which are the least funny things on television.

I can't remember the last time I heard one of her monologues either as I do the same and as soon as I know the score it's off before she can do her bit at the end. It's strange as I actually still really like her and I'm weirdly happy she's with David considering I don't know them.

Apart from sport though I never watch anything live. Entertainment shows have too much bullshit filler in them so I can say I like a show but really I've probably cut the run time by at least 30%.

And at least one member of this parish has been a contestant...https://youtu.be/PAk1SIm97Mo

...I agree about the singing. I always try and fast forwarded to exactly the point where it finishes and am usually not far off. The intro and outro...these can be slyly funny at times although there are at least as many misses as hits

Ah nice one Martyn. I've only been watching for around 4 years so I hadn't come across you on it. How disappointed were you after the loss? A lot of pressure on the captain as well! Nowadays you would have gotten a 2nd chance.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: olaftab on May 22, 2023, 06:51:19 PM
Brilliant Martyn. Didn’t realise we existed close to a star.
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: chrisw1 on May 23, 2023, 12:14:27 PM
I've never even heard of it.  How do people find time for this sort of stuff?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 24, 2023, 01:05:13 AM
What... 30 minutes of TV?
Title: Re: Meaning Evil. Stirring trouble
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 24, 2023, 01:07:54 AM
I've never even heard of it.  How do people find time for this sort of stuff?

That's a bold question from someone with 7k+ posts on this forum!
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