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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on February 14, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
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Saturday 16.2.19
Villa Park
3pm KO
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McGrath help us. 0-2.
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I don’t even want to think about it.
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We are fucked
0-3
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0-3
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1-3, Rodrigues hat trick, one off his left hand, one off his right hand and one off his chopper.
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Will Gayle be suspended?
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Unless we book in a teambuilding day tomorrow, I fear the worst.
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We did the team building thing yesterday, according to the commentator Dean took the squad for a guided tour of Twickenham before the game. They mentioned that it didn't go down too well with the Scottish and Irish lads but I couldn't work out if it was said in jest or not....
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We did the team building thing yesterday, according to the commentator Dean took the squad for a guided tour of Twickenham before the game. They mentioned that it didn't go down too well with the Scottish and Irish lads but I couldn't work out if it was said in jest or not....
Judging the way Hutton and Hourahane played id say probably not. Even McGinn looked like he'd thrown a shoe as well.
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No leaders on or off the pitch at the moment & that includes JT. All the basics of teamwork, graft, attack & defend as a unit and positivity to bring about a winning mentality seem lost and forgotten about. I fear the worst for the visit of the Bitters but have voted for a Villa win out of hope rather than despair as it’s all we have going forward.
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1-4
Booooooo
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4-3 a return to form for the claret & blue.
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Will Gayle be suspended?
If he accepts the charge today then yes
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We will win this. Don’t ask me why or how but we will
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shit
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We will win this. Don’t ask me why or how but we will
What are you drinking?
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2-2
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We will win this. Don’t ask me why or how but we will
What are you drinking?
Not enough 🤣
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4-4. Bookings that is.
0-2
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No huff and even less puff - 1-3 if we're lucky. We're going to finish in the bottom half unless we seriously buck our ideas up.
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We need an act of nature to prevent us losing this. Hurricane, Typhoon, 1000year storm, doesn’t really matter. Pls god help us....
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4-4
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Just can't see it myself. We will lose heavily unless the players can get their mindset right.
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We've won 3 of the last 4 at home against them, let's make it 4 in 5, get ourselves closer to the play-off pack and derail their top 2 hopes in the process.
Nervy 2-1 to us.
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fuck it. We're going to surprise everyone and win. 2-1 Villa
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They get an extra day's rest and they're better at playing and cheating than us. It ain't fair, Tom!
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Hate to say it, but my feeling is we are going to get tonked.
Can't be at the game so my daughter is going in my place. They had better perform well or I wont hear the last of it
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I'm going to say 2-1 Villa win got to beat the tesco bags.
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1-3 to the Stripey Filth
Rumblings of discontent towards Smith and he and the team roundly booed by the few fans who stay until the final whistle
The club gave up on promotion weeks ago and almost admitted they had done so with their comments about " not needing to go up this season"
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No confidence in this team at all so can't see anything other than being on the wrong end of a proper battering. 0-4.
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Gayle banned with immediate effect.
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Gayle banned with immediate effect.
This is good news
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More embarrassment highly likely.
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yes, i suspect you are right but at least that gimlet eyed Hobbit Gayle won't be scoring against us.
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I’ve only just seeen Gayle’s dive, what a c**t. Forest should be awarded the points.
I think we’ll win on Saturday. Not that it matters.
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The club have said they're expecting a crowd of around 37,500. Us being shite will have knocked 2k-3k off the crowd, it would have been 40k+ if we were playing well.
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Unless we book in a teambuilding day tomorrow, I fear the worst.
I have a phobia of German sausage too...
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I work in Wednesbury with a load of bloody Albion fans.....I’m dreading Monday.
I pray for a miracle, but there has to be a big upturn in form.
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Kick them all over the park. Draw 1-1.
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Kick them all over the park. Draw 1-1.
Hutton them.
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Kick them all over the park. Draw 1-1.
Hutton them.
Tommy Elfkick. Conor Hooligan (yeah right!).
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I can't go, as I've got a date with Slash.
I expect we'll win 4-0 with a swashbuckling performance by the hologram.
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Hegazi has a hamstring strain and is a doubt - he missed the Forest game. Probably their best defender and Gayle out plus Barnes gone makes them weaker. 2-1 to Villa....
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Phillips is still out too.
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I think this is where Dean Smith has got to be bold, No Adomah and his half arsed jogging down the wing, no bringing on Kodija for his end of game sulk and no fucking Hologram.
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Anyone who thinks we'll win obviously didn't watch us last night. Our season is over and we played in that way. No urgency or desire and Albion will be a lot more up for it than us. Our players will be on the beach now.
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Anyone who thinks we'll win obviously didn't watch us last night. Our season is over and we played in that way. No urgency or desire and Albion will be a lot more up for it than us. Our players will be on the beach now.
Was it that different to how we always play against Brentford though?
Quick, incisive passing teams like them always make us look worse than we are.
Generally at home we don't lose many, wouldn't surprise me at all if we got at least a point from this.
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Anyone who thinks we'll win obviously didn't watch us last night. Our season is over and we played in that way. No urgency or desire and Albion will be a lot more up for it than us. Our players will be on the beach now.
I watched it last night and I think we are going to beat them.
If we can score 3 goals in 10 minutes to deny a team from going top of the league then we are capable of a similar scoring spree against the stripey filth at any time in the game.
UTV
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I think this is where Dean Smith has got to be bold, No Adomah and his half arsed jogging down the wing, no bringing on Kodija for his end of game sulk and no fucking Hologram.
I think we need to be bold in every game from now on. As it stands we are certainly not going to be relegated and we certainly aren't going to gain automatic promotion and even the play offs look unlikely at this point. So surely we are in the perfect position to just go for it in every game.
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1-3, Rodrigues hat trick, one off his left hand, one off his right hand and one off his chopper.
Giving a whole new meaning to the term 'a perfect hat-trick'.
How long ago was it when we last played them? It seems like about three weeks to me.
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1-3, Rodrigues hat trick, one off his left hand, one off his right hand and one off his chopper.
Giving a whole new meaning to the term 'a perfect hat-trick'.
How long ago was it when we last played them? It seems like about three weeks to me.
December 7th. The last time we played well.
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Kalinic
Hutton Tommy Mings Hause
Barney
Elmo McGinn Green
Kodj Tammy
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I think this is where Dean Smith has got to be bold, No Adomah and his half arsed jogging down the wing, no bringing on Kodija for his end of game sulk and no fucking Hologram.
I think we need to be bold in every game from now on. As it stands we are certainly not going to be relegated and we certainly aren't going to gain automatic promotion and even the play offs look unlikely at this point. So surely we are in the perfect position to just go for it in every game.
I think the first criteria has to be players that are going to give it a go.
And if that means chucking some youngsters so be it.
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Strange but true.
We win this and we're just 7 points off a team who've been established in the top 6 for ages. Amazed considering it seems we've won about 2 games in 5 months. Also probably shows what an opportunity we've missed as this level is much weaker than last season's edition.
Tough to call. Has Gayle actually been banned? If he is we have much more chance of getting a draw but fear a 1-2 defeat as they need the points more.
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From their OS
Dwight Gayle has been suspended for two games by the Football Association after being found guilty of simulation in this week’s 2-2 draw with Nottingham Forest.
The Club supports Dwight’s view that he was attempting to avoid anticipated challenges in the 89th-minute incident which led to a penalty award for Albion.
Although disappointed with the outcome, Albion have regrettably concluded any appeal would be fruitless.
The Baggies striker will now miss the next two games against Aston Villa and QPR in the Sky Bet Championship.
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Us 3 them 1
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They've had their worst results of the season when he hasn't played so that's good news. It will be a much weaker forward line than what we faced away with Phillips out and Barnes not there anymore so don't really see us conceding 3s or 4s tbh.
We have a decent chance of a point I think but win is probably beyond us like the vast majority of games we've played since early December.
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I reckon a score draw. 2-2
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From their OS
Dwight Gayle has been suspended for two games by the Football Association after being found guilty of simulation in this week’s 2-2 draw with Nottingham Forest.
The Club supports Dwight’s view that he was attempting to avoid anticipated challenges in the 89th-minute incident which led to a penalty award for Albion.
Although disappointed with the outcome, Albion have regrettably concluded any appeal would be fruitless.
The Baggies striker will now miss the next two games against Aston Villa and QPR in the Sky Bet Championship.
There were 2 challenges coming in, but that's what happens in football when players try to attempt to tackle and take the ball from another player. Attempting to avoid the challenges by doing a swan dive and tricking the referee to award a penalty is cheating.
I hope Smith can get a performance out of this bunch and prove a lot of us wrong.
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Win 1-0. A headed Hutton goal to win it.
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From their OS
Dwight Gayle has been suspended for two games by the Football Association after being found guilty of simulation in this week’s 2-2 draw with Nottingham Forest.
The Club supports Dwight’s view that he was attempting to avoid anticipated challenges in the 89th-minute incident which led to a penalty award for Albion.
Although disappointed with the outcome, Albion have regrettably concluded any appeal would be fruitless.
The Baggies striker will now miss the next two games against Aston Villa and QPR in the Sky Bet Championship.
There were 2 challenges coming in, but that's what happens in football when players try to attempt to tackle and take the ball from another player. Attempting to avoid the challenges by doing a swan dive and tricking the referee to award a penalty is cheating.
I hope Smith can get a performance out of this bunch and prove a lot of us wrong.
The fact that “ the club supports Dwight’s view” says everything you need to know about them.
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Sandwell in 'being a bunch of cnuts' shock.
Edit: and holier than thou cnuts at that.
Just win Villa and send these backward gimps back to gaslampsville where they belong.
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Is Carroll available?
I'm struggling to out a midfield together.
Hourihane shouldn't start, not Jedinak or Whelan. But that doesn't leave us with too many options.
Carroll, McGinn and erm...?
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I will not criticise Smith if he tries something different in the defensive and midfield, if he continues to pick the same faces in the same positions I fear that we will slide into the bowels of the championship table. The effort against Brentford was woeful in the extreme he cannot allow the same players to get away with it any longer.
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Try and pick a three man midfield you're happy with. Then try a 442 or 4411 and pick two.
Or instead you might want to try something simpler, like bringing peace to the Middle East, solve the draught issue in South America or teach Craig Gardner how to breathe through his nose.
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The cupboard is very bare.
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A couple of Bitters I know are obsessed with going on about Grealish, and what a dreadful human being he is.
Funnily enough I can’t ever remember Jack being suspended for diving, punching a ball into the net or be accused of racially abusing an opponent.
I can think of a team that has managed all of the above though.
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The stock on players not in the starting 11 always seems to rise when things aren't going well. Recently when Jedinak and Barny have come in they've been woeful. The reality is some scapegoaters on here who never offer any solutions will always find a new scapegoat to pin their negative comments on. If Barny was to come in tomorrow then it has to be as dm only. A fit lansbury might make a difference but who knows with that man. Smith has struggled to find a replacement for Grealish but it's not McGinn. He needs to play in centre midfield not as a support for Tammy. I'm not sure who Smith will start with tomorrow but whoever the starting 11 are I will support them. UTV
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The stock on players not in the starting 11 always seems to rise when things aren't going well. Recently when Jedinak and Barny have come in they've been woeful. The reality is some scapegoaters on here who never offer any solutions will always find a new scapegoat to pin their negative comments on. If Barny was to come in tomorrow then it has to be as dm only. A fit lansbury might make a difference but who knows with that man. Smith has struggled to find a replacement for Grealish but it's not McGinn. He needs to play in centre midfield not as a support for Tammy. I'm not sure who Smith will start with tomorrow but whoever the starting 11 are I will support them. UTV
To be fair, it’s terrifically difficult for a player to come into the first team and make an impact from the start. Especially if they have been out with injury and coming back into a team that aren’t playing well.
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I expect a reaction tomorrow. 3-1 us.
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I predict we'll be 0-2 down at H/T & boo'd off the park. Cue another actual contest/comeback after 80 mins: leading to a Boggies defender punching the ball into his own net; then an equalizer from the spot in the 7th minute of added time - after an hilario dive from El Khazi.
Lump on y'all ;)
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You’d think that with Gayle suspended we might be capable of eeking out a draw against this lot. I’m fairly sure though we’ll conspire to find some way of losing in humiliating fashion.
Can we just fast forward to August?
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1-3 to the Stripey Filth
Rumblings of discontent towards Smith and he and the team roundly booed by the few fans who stay until the final whistle
The club gave up on promotion weeks ago and almost admitted they had done so with their comments about " not needing to go up this season"
It's worse than that.
The guys at the top actually told everybody they were not "requiring or expecting" promotion.
Bring on the abuse. But that's the facts.
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1-3 to the Stripey Filth
Rumblings of discontent towards Smith and he and the team roundly booed by the few fans who stay until the final whistle
The club gave up on promotion weeks ago and almost admitted they had done so with their comments about " not needing to go up this season"
It's worse than that.
The guys at the top actually told everybody they were not "requiring or expecting" promotion.
Bring on the abuse. But that's the facts.
What an utter bore you are.
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Is Carroll available?
I'm struggling to out a midfield together.
Hourihane shouldn't start, not Jedinak or Whelan. But that doesn't leave us with too many options.
Carroll, McGinn and erm...?
Smith said he was out for 10 days after the Sheff Utd match, so as it hasn't been that long, I'd say he'd be very doubtful.
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1-3 to the Stripey Filth
Rumblings of discontent towards Smith and he and the team roundly booed by the few fans who stay until the final whistle
The club gave up on promotion weeks ago and almost admitted they had done so with their comments about " not needing to go up this season"
It's worse than that.
The guys at the top actually told everybody they were not "requiring or expecting" promotion.
Bring on the abuse. But that's the facts.
What an utter bore you are.
Dry your eyes mate.
It was said, by the top brass, in mid December.
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Kalinic
Elphick
Mings
Hause
Jedinak
Whelan
Bjarnason
Hourihane
McGinn
Davis
Abraham
Spend 90 minutes launching it towards Davis, and I reckon we can get a point out of this.
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Has Steve Bruce signed up to this site? Whelan, Jedinak and Bjarni all starting?!
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1-3 to the Stripey Filth
Rumblings of discontent towards Smith and he and the team roundly booed by the few fans who stay until the final whistle
The club gave up on promotion weeks ago and almost admitted they had done so with their comments about " not needing to go up this season"
It's worse than that.
The guys at the top actually told everybody they were not "requiring or expecting" promotion.
Bring on the abuse. But that's the facts.
What an utter bore you are.
Dry your eyes mate.
It was said, by the top brass, in mid December.
No, because you're trying to start an unnecessary row in a match thread and it's already been done to death. Grow up.
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so Lansburys still not fit?
looks like that Carroll signing will be just a waste to me .. hope Im wrong but it didnt excite me one ohta - cant spell today
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Anyway, back on topic. Not sure how this one is going to go. I thought we were going to kick on after the Sheff Utd comeback but that didn't happen. He needs to change it instead of playing it down the wings which isn't working. Whether that is playing El Ghazi through the middle or throwing Jacob Ramsey in etc, I don't know. 2-1 to us anyway.
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No, because you're trying to start an unnecessary row in a match thread and it's already been done to death. Grow up.
Just ignore him, it works for me
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Yes you can. It's iota you got wrong.
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Was Davis on the bench the other night ?
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I'd like to see Kodja start with Tammy as 2 up front and then just pack the defense with the other 9 lucky names on the team sheet.
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Yes you can. It's iota you got wrong.
cheers leeg
i knew a synth nerd would help me out :)
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1-3 to the Stripey Filth
Rumblings of discontent towards Smith and he and the team roundly booed by the few fans who stay until the final whistle
The club gave up on promotion weeks ago and almost admitted they had done so with their comments about " not needing to go up this season"
It's worse than that.
The guys at the top actually told everybody they were not "requiring or expecting" promotion.
Bring on the abuse. But that's the facts.
What an utter bore you are.
Dry your eyes mate.
It was said, by the top brass, in mid December.
Purslow said that promotion wasn't a requirement in respect of finances. I think it's important that the context is provided for the comments.
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A good start would be not naming Hutton as captain.
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Can't see anything but another defeat. A comfortable 2-0 to them.
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A vicious Villa Park turning on players and management is the most likely scenario I think.
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I would sincerely hope not.
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Can't see that. If we're losing most would go home like last Friday.
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If Hourihane is playing, we lose. If he's out, we win.
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So Carroll still not fit so it’s going to be Conor again, not good. Dean also said he wanted to put jack on the bench but the doc said he should stick to his programme. Sounds like he’s getting close tho
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And there I was thinking football was a team game when all along it's been down to one individual! There's no hope for some on here.
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I'm reading a lot on social media about a possible vicious/toxic atmosphere at Villa Park, and am a bit worried that people are mistaking a load off hacked off Brummies (which we are even when we are winning let's face it) who are getting a bit fed up with losing and drawing more than we'd like? Isn't that what it basically is? I think the words people are using like toxic purely adds unnecessary weight to the story, which is basically we're a bit moany at the minute, nothing more.
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A good reason to leave facebook alone then.
Anyway, why isn't O'Hara in consideration for a midfield role? Yes, he's lightweight and not quite the required standard yet but I think he'd still offer more than Hourihane.
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So would a traffic cone.
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A good reason to leave facebook alone then.
Anyway, why isn't O'Hara in consideration for a midfield role? Yes, he's lightweight and not quite the required standard yet but I think he'd still offer more than Hourihane.
Because we don't have a player called O'Hara? :P
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A good reason to leave facebook alone then.
Anyway, why isn't O'Hara in consideration for a midfield role? Yes, he's lightweight and not quite the required standard yet but I think he'd still offer more than Hourihane.
Probably because O'Hare is on loan at Carlisle Utd until the end of the season is my guess.
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I'm surprised TV hasn't shown the footage of Dwight Gayle going up to the referee and asking him not to award the penalty because it was not a foul and he had just been "avoiding anticipated challenges", true Corinthian sportsman that he is.
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1-3 to the Stripey Filth
Rumblings of discontent towards Smith and he and the team roundly booed by the few fans who stay until the final whistle
The club gave up on promotion weeks ago and almost admitted they had done so with their comments about " not needing to go up this season"
It's worse than that.
The guys at the top actually told everybody they were not "requiring or expecting" promotion.
Bring on the abuse. But that's the facts.
What an utter bore you are.
Dry your eyes mate.
It was said, by the top brass, in mid December.
And quoted, out of context, by you ever since.
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I want us to win by scoring 2 goals in the last minute, one goal a blatant double handball, the second a penalty as the result of one of our players taking a swan dive to avoid impending incoming challenges.
If the old saying "well it evens out over a season" is true, then this will surely come to pass.
We are due a penalty mind.
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I'm surprised TV hasn't shown the footage of Dwight Gayle going up to the referee and asking him not to award the penalty because it was not a foul and he had just been "avoiding anticipated challenges", true Corinthian sportsman that he is.
Those were my thoughts exactly when I read their statement.
As for the result I registered my vote on here as a Villa win but now I am thinking 2-2.
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A good reason to leave facebook alone then.
Anyway, why isn't O'Hara in consideration for a midfield role? Yes, he's lightweight and not quite the required standard yet but I think he'd still offer more than Hourihane.
Probably because O'Hare is on loan at Carlisle Utd until the end of the season is my guess.
Forgot he'd gone on loan. Oh well, Hourihane it is, can't wait.
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Still angry from the Brentford debacle.
Fact is 2/3 team will be gone come the summer and they know it so there is no unity in the squad. Why should they bust a gut? Professional players my ass.
Cant see past a 3-0 defeat.
Just playing out the season so I would shake it up, better stifling my groan when I see Hologram on the teamsheet. Amazing he scored 10 from midfield last year!
Kalinac
Elmo Elphick Mings Hutton (At LB)
Thor McGinn Whelan Under23 kid
ElGhazi
Abraham
Basic 4-4-1-1 with Elghazi floating
When with this fucking week in week out dross ever improve.
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El Ghazi is definitely a floater that's for sure.
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On his wedge he is well flush for a floater, as well.
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I'm reading a lot on social media about a possible vicious/toxic atmosphere at Villa Park, and am a bit worried that people are mistaking a load off hacked off Brummies (which we are even when we are winning let's face it) who are getting a bit fed up with losing and drawing more than we'd like? Isn't that what it basically is? I think the words people are using like toxic purely adds unnecessary weight to the story, which is basically we're a bit moany at the minute, nothing more.
Agreed, Twitter is really starting to fuck me off with this.
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Twitter has been absolute shitpit of self-loathing as far as Villa are concerned recently. Absolutely everything is the fault of the fans, and the 3-3 comeback against Sheff U was because all of the moaners left the ground when their 3rd goal went in.
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Hourihane was (Wednesday night) , and has been garbage for our last few games.It all set up for him to score the winner with a memorable strike tomorrow , I hope.
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Hourihane was (Wednesday night) , and has been garbage for our last few games.It all set up for him to score the winner with a memorable strike tomorrow , I hope.
Thinking of going to the bookies tomorrow to place a bet on that .....doubling it up with the Pope getting married
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We are 10 points behind them and we have played 1 more game. FFS.
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Cant see past a 3-0 defeat.
I can...I can see it being a 4-0 or 5-0 defeat. Just said to my Baggies supporting mate that I'll be adopting the usual Baggies and Blose stance in that it will be a moral victory for Villa if it's less than 5-0. Not looking forward to this at all, but still hope we can go against the form guide and pull out what could only be described as a shock performance and result.
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Fuuuuuuuuuuuck the Albion!
Fuck the Albion!
Fuck the Albion!
Fuck the Albion!
Fuck the Albion!
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We will win this - they have to if only for my sake. Work will be unbearable next week with anything less than 3 points.
Safest bet is a score draw but I'll go for a nervy 3-2. Neither team covers itself in glory at the back and both teams have goals in them. It will come down to who wants it more and I am praying that is us for once!!
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"West Brom got a fortunate draw against Nottingham Forest but they need to get on a winning run if they are to push up and threaten the top two. This will be a tight game but I reckon the Baggies will nick the three points."
Prutton predicts: 1-2
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Grealish was meant to be on the bench. Doc said no.
Fucking men of science.
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Bollocks. Home win, 3-1. Believe!
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Seen El Ghazi's goal again against these Stripey twats and Jack takes two of the Tesco gimps out of position creating space. Crikey we miss him.
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I wonder whether 3-4-3 might be worth trying.
Hutton - Mings - Elphick
Elmo - McGinn - Whelan - Hourihane
El-Ghazi - Tammy - Kodjia
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Hourihane needs to be dropped
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We're gonna get battered. Dreading it.
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They have a few facing fitness tests. And Gayle is definitely out. You never know. My last fifteen visits to Villa Park we've only lost once so hopefully that's a good omen but out of those fifteen games this is the most negative I've felt before a match.
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Press, Pass and Move!
Just play some football Villa and the crowd will be with you 100%
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1-3 to the Stripey Filth
Rumblings of discontent towards Smith and he and the team roundly booed by the few fans who stay until the final whistle
The club gave up on promotion weeks ago and almost admitted they had done so with their comments about " not needing to go up this season"
It's worse than that.
The guys at the top actually told everybody they were not "requiring or expecting" promotion.
Bring on the abuse. But that's the facts.
What an utter bore you are.
Dry your eyes mate.
It was said, by the top brass, in mid December.
And quoted, out of context, by you ever since.
Explain how "We're not EXPECTING or REQUIRING to be promoted QUICKLY." can be quoted "out of context"?
That's the exact quote. The fact they're referring to finances is neither here nor there. They are still saying they are not EXPECTING us to be promoted QUICKLY. Think about the message that sends to everybody.
They are basically saying, "With this manager and players, we are not expecting anything like success." And guess what? Their expectations are being met.
Who'd of thought it?
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Purslow also said this in the same interview "“It’s my duty to do everything to get the club back to the upper reaches of the Premier League". And in the same interview he also says this about the owners "They’re profoundly ambitious to get Aston Villa to its natural level".
Just because he gave a sensible answer to a question about the financial state of the club doesn't mean they have no expectations. Well not to anyone with any common sense.
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Perhaps if who this statement was said to, and when, and in response to what, then perhaps it might be debated at a higher level than as troll fodder.
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Purslow also said this in the same interview "“It’s my duty to do everything to get the club back to the upper reaches of the Premier League". And in the same interview he also says this about the owners "They’re profoundly ambitious to get Aston Villa to its natural level".
Just because he gave a sensible answer to a question about the financial state of the club doesn't mean they have no expectations. Well not to anyone with any common sense.
BUT RON SAUNDERS LITERALLY SAID "BET AGAINST US". WE WON IT DESPITE HIS NEGATIVITY (and then he went to Blues, the absolute shit).
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Purslow also said this in the same interview "“It’s my duty to do everything to get the club back to the upper reaches of the Premier League". And in the same interview he also says this about the owners "They’re profoundly ambitious to get Aston Villa to its natural level".
Just because he gave a sensible answer to a question about the financial state of the club doesn't mean they have no expectations. Well not to anyone with any common sense.
Even so, they've told everybody they're not expecting it quickly.
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Purslow also said this in the same interview "“It’s my duty to do everything to get the club back to the upper reaches of the Premier League". And in the same interview he also says this about the owners "They’re profoundly ambitious to get Aston Villa to its natural level".
Just because he gave a sensible answer to a question about the financial state of the club doesn't mean they have no expectations. Well not to anyone with any common sense.
Even so, they've told everybody they're not expecting it quickly.
No he did not. He stated that it was not a prerequisite of our financial survival which it was last season, and that was the context of the question which he was answering.
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In the context of finances. I.e. we're not going bump again if we don't go up this summer like we were last year.
You're either too stupid to comprehend it or a tedious troll. Or probably both.
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What they should have done to please you is say we have to go up this season, we expect to go up this season, we will go up this season and then gone on about how we'll be one the top clubs in Europe within a few years because no one has ever looked stupid after saying any of those things having just taken over a club.
Whereas I, and I assume most on here, prefer having ambitious owners that are smart enough to not have the club unable to pay its bills if it doesn't happen.
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I wonder whether 3-4-3 might be worth trying.
Hutton - Mings - Elphick
Elmo - McGinn - Whelan - Hourihane
El-Ghazi - Tammy - Kodjia
Good idea in principle however Hutton gets caught out of position so often that we’d spend much of the match with only 2 defenders.
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Twitter has been absolute shitpit of self-loathing as far as Villa are concerned recently. Absolutely everything is the fault of the fans, and the 3-3 comeback against Sheff U was because all of the moaners left the ground when their 3rd goal went in.
In fairness, the unrelenting misery of the old guys around me really has me contemplating whether to bother or not, and I haven't missed a match since 2006. I get that it's crap at the moment, but the torrent of abuse whenever someone misplaces a pass or a player makes a mistake is just unneccessary. The guy opposite me genuinely told Smith to 'fuck off and die' when Sheffield scored the other week. Too many people seem to enjoy being miserable.
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On Judgement Day I expect to be cast into the fiery furnace for all eternity for saying, and these were my exact words, "Terry Weir is just a daft old fool with a camera". The fact that before that I said, "The biggest mistake anyone at Villa Park can make is to think," will cut no ice with the celestial jury.
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The general assumption is that the club has stated that we ‘do not NEED’ to be promoted this year.
They even said it during commentary in the Brentford game.
Misconception or not, it’s what is in the public domain now.
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The general assumption is that the club has stated that we ‘do not NEED’ to be promoted this year.
They even said it during commentary in the Brentford game.
Misconception or not, it’s what is in the public domain now.
Fine by me. Saying we don't need to go up is saying we don't have a problem with either FFP or missing out on the Premier League money tree.
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Oh, I agree Dave, i’ll take not being beholden the the premier league monster any day of the week.
I just think it’s a strange coincidence that our drop off in form seems to have happened when that became known.
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I wonder whether 3-4-3 might be worth trying.
Hutton - Mings - Elphick
Elmo - McGinn - Whelan - Hourihane
El-Ghazi - Tammy - Kodjia
Good idea in principle however Hutton gets caught out of position so often that we’d spend much of the match with only 2 defenders.
Oh, MfB, you've fallen into my tactical trap. In that instance Elmo retreats to fullback, Whelan channels Kante and Hutton becomes the false Pirlo that we all know to be his destiny.
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The deadwood and loan players need to be be cleared out. Smith should try the youngsters after tomorrow. What happened to Davis, O'Hare and RHM? Forget promotion next season and plan for the future. Short termism has been a problem at Villa for many years.
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I think the problem is that whatever formation you try, a midfield 3 or 4 with Whelan and Hollowman is never, ever going to be good enough.
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I think the problem is that whatever formation you try, a midfield 3 or 4 with Whelan and Hollowman is never, ever going to be good enough.
That's 100% true, but then if we accept that it makes the incessant wailing about them in the absence of anyone better a bit silly (we're all guilty).
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Oh, I agree Dave, i’ll take not being beholden the the premier league monster any day of the week.
I just think it’s a strange coincidence that our drop off in form seems to have happened when that became known.
That's a bit like the Dad's Army episode when Jones reckons the platoon shot down a German plane and Walker replied, "Either us or the two Spitfires behind him". Maybe an offhand remark by a director did cause a load of professional footballers to drop their form. Or maybe it was losing the best midfielder and defender in the league. Who knows?
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The deadwood and loan players need to be be cleared out. Smith should try the youngsters after tomorrow. What happened to Davis, O'Hare and RHM? Forget promotion next season and plan for the future. Short termism has been a problem at Villa for many years.
Short termism is the way it is in football in this country and the world in general. How much money did Alex Ferguson throw around at Manchester United in the seven years it took him to win the title? How many of the fans, directors or pundits suggested he waited for the youngsters to come through? And how often do that amount of youngsters with that amount of talent actually come through?
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The deadwood and loan players need to be be cleared out. Smith should try the youngsters after tomorrow. What happened to Davis, O'Hare and RHM? Forget promotion next season and plan for the future. Short termism has been a problem at Villa for many years.
Davis has been injured all season, and both O'Hare and RHM are out on loan.
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Edited as ironically, there's no context to this post.
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It still isn't a proper derby, I don't wake up feeling sick about the game. We were much the better team at their place, but have been poor since Grealish has been out. I'd like us to try Green in attacking midfield, as West Brom look a slow at the back.
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Looking forward to this. I've bought 8 (yes 8!!) tickets for this game. My 7 year old plays in the local team and 2 of his team mates are coming to their first ever Villa match (one is Villa already the other is not committed). The Villa fan couldn't sleep last night apparently. I told his Mum he won't be able to sleep after seeing how we play!
Hoping for a good game - the 4-3 with Tekkers scoring a winning pen in the Holte is one of my favourites.
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I'm dreading this.
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Edited as ironically, there's no context to this post.
I removed it because there’s no point in arguing with you. I don’t agree with a lot of what you say, but I wouldn’t say you are a troll or stupid. It’s ridiculous. People are allowed an opinion and just because you don’t agree with villa75 doesn’t mean he is wrong on everything he says
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I'm dreading this.
We appear to be the slight favourites according to the bookies. Villa 11/8 Albion 12/8.
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It still isn't a proper derby, I don't wake up feeling sick about the game. We were much the better team at their place, but have been poor since Grealish has been out. I'd like us to try Green in attacking midfield, as West Brom look a slow at the back.
Felt the same thing. Woke.up looking forward to the game, but no excitement or nerves.
We know what they bin.
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Edited as ironically, there's no context to this post.
I removed it because there’s no point in arguing with you. I don’t agree with a lot of what you say, but I wouldn’t say you are a troll or stupid. It’s ridiculous. People are allowed an opinion and just because you don’t agree with villa75 doesn’t mean he is wrong on everything he says
Villa75 is a troll. People can agree or disagree with that assessment if they like. Ask him his opinion of Beckford.
I disagree with you and your desire for our manager to be sacked, after 1 win, 3 draws and 2 defeats post Stripey Filth. I disagree that Wigan is even remotely close to how bad December and January 2012/13 was for utterly unrelenting humiliation.
I don't think you're a troll. Just wrong. People are entitled to an opinion and if they utter it, they're entitled to see that opinion examined.
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Thought I'd have a gander at what the black shoes with their blue Lee jeans and replica top wearers have to say;
I’ve said it before in this column, but I’ll say it again – I hate the Villa.
Link (https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/02/15/ally-robertson-aston-villa-are-the-opposition-that-make-my-west-brom-blood-boil/) Ally Robertson, you're a fucking legend
What a knob. I'm not going to let him have my old washing machine or any other scrap metal for that matter now.
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Ally Robertson sold me a car once.
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In the context of finances. I.e. we're not going bump again if we don't go up this summer like we were last year.
You're either too stupid to comprehend it or a tedious troll. Or probably both.
As none of the moderators have come down on you for this, I presume insults are allowed at the current time.
In that case, you're a prick who couldn't predict the time correctly one hour from now.
Let's hope our Chief Executive's expectations are as wrong as your's nine times out of ten, and we do get promoted QUICKLY.
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I think that's quite enough! Can we get back to dreading/anticipating the fixture please?
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Edited as ironically, there's no context to this post.
I removed it because there’s no point in arguing with you. I don’t agree with a lot of what you say, but I wouldn’t say you are a troll or stupid. It’s ridiculous. People are allowed an opinion and just because you don’t agree with villa75 doesn’t mean he is wrong on everything he says
Villa75 is a troll. People can agree or disagree with that assessment if they like. Ask him his opinion of Beckford.
I disagree with you and your desire for our manager to be sacked, after 1 win, 3 draws and 2 defeats post Stripey Filth. I disagree that Wigan is even remotely close to how bad December and January 2012/13 was for utterly unrelenting humiliation.
I don't think you're a troll. Just wrong. People are entitled to an opinion and if they utter it, they're entitled to see that opinion examined.
Bedford who? I why would I give a fuck about him? Is it another goalkeeper we've signed?
Also, you do realise what division our current shit is taking place in, compared to 2012/2013, don't you?
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In the context of finances. I.e. we're not going bump again if we don't go up this summer like we were last year.
You're either too stupid to comprehend it or a tedious troll. Or probably both.
As none of the moderators have come down on you for this, I presume insults are allowed at the current time.
In that case, you're a prick who couldn't predict the time correctly one hour from now.
Let's hope our Chief Executive's expectations are as wrong as your's nine times out of ten, and we do get promoted QUICKLY.
Come on mate. This is the pre match thread. Save your vitriol for the useless underperformers in our starting eleven. No need for abusing fellow posters.
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I think that's quite enough! Can we get back to dreading/anticipating the fixture please?
Ah, now it's "quite enough", of course I will.
My prediction, 'Ad's style', is that it won't be a draw. 😂
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I predict we will win every week, so I think my ratio is a bit better than 1 in 10.
Getting beat 3 nil by a shit team. So what?
Charlton away. Doncaster away. Small Heath away. Meh.
Getting beat 8-0 by Chelsea, 4-0 at home to Spurs, 3-0 at home to Wigan, losing 3-1 to 4th division Bradford, losing over two legs, being utterly diabolical at 2nd division Millwall.
Just my opinion, but I know which clutch of results I find more embarrassing.
And it's Jermaine Beckford. Don't pretend you've forgot.
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I have a nasty feeling we will be torn a new one, and our chances of play offs will seen to be at an end.
I've said before, that only a clearout of biblical enema proportions will do to sort the club out, and the end of the season can see us do just that.
At least 18, and as many as 42 players out of contract (the latter figure if you include academy /reserve players out of contract)at the end of the season.
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No Gayle or Barnes. And Phillips still injured too. Both sides a lot weaker.
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I'm thinking 1-1 draw, in a low quality affair.
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I'm thinking 1-1 draw, in a low quality affair.
This.
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I'm thinking 1-3 home defeat in a low quality affair. We seem to be getting worse every game at the moment.
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Though West Brom got decent signings in January, replacing the departing Barnes with That former Norwich winger and also Johansen who was good for Fulham. Just worry about our lack of creativity with Grealish and Carroll out.
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Back to basics for me.....442 with Kodj and Tammy up front, Whelan and McGinn in the middle with Ghazi and Green on the flanks. We simply don’t have the quality for 4141 at the moment.
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Come on the Villa boys, 3 points today please! UTV
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Pretty, pretty please...
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we need to win, end of.
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As much as the Villa fuck me off at the moment with their insipid performances the thought of losing to smethwick is just too much to take. If ever Smith and his coaches needed to give the mother of all pre match talks then today is the day. He should impress on the players that anyone not giving 100% today will be fed to the lions at the West Midlands safari park.
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Time for this again, never fails, better than any orange dot..
3-1 Villa
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A backs to the wall lucky lucky 1-0 to us.
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3-1 to the Villa. Bollocks to Sandwell!