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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: Chico Hamilton III on February 07, 2019, 01:33:23 PM

Title: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 07, 2019, 01:33:23 PM
Where do you start with this fantastic clip? The beautiful training kits? That fantastic old stadium we used to play in?

Not sure where to post this

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/VLVA1JJ9A65I9BNB58YBCJGZSK9HA-UK-ZAMBIAN-FOOTBALLER-SIGNED-BY-ASTON-VILLA/query/aston+villa
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: exigo on February 07, 2019, 01:40:38 PM
Love that training was literally 'run over there', 'now run back over here'.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 07, 2019, 01:57:35 PM
Fab footage. Villa Park really was special then.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: darren woolley on February 07, 2019, 01:58:21 PM
That's brilliant Chico love that footage.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: eddiemunster on February 07, 2019, 02:01:24 PM
Freddie Mwila, signed by Tommy Docherty, along with compatriot Emment Kapengwe. Mwila played one game, Kapengwe played three times. According to Wikipedia, they were the second and third black players to play for Villa, and though they were given two year contracts, they left after Villa were relegated (9 months)later. Stan Horne was the first black player to play for the club 1963 -65, playing 6 times before going to Man City in 1965.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: West Derby Villan on February 07, 2019, 02:16:44 PM
 Chico, that's  a thing of beauty, much appreciated
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: Risso on February 07, 2019, 02:18:53 PM
I saw that last week, think Dave W had posted it on Twitter.  Wonderful, anyway.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: Oscar Arce on February 07, 2019, 02:36:33 PM
Wow, what a wonderful piece of film...well spotted Chico and thanks so much for posting.
Such a beautiful ground it was then, great to see the majestic open Witton End, where I used to stand on the grassy bank in this film, along with the beautiful Trinity Road, including the standing enclosure.
I'm guessing this was the 'stiffs' in the track suits, as they had new signings and fringe players, becuase on the other side of the pitch there was another group of players in full Villa kit...no flashy training strips in those days!
Spotted Vic Crowe of course, plus Dave Simmons, Pat McMahon, John Dunn, Barry Lynch, Rioch the younger and young Griffiths, along with Chico of course.
Remember Mwila and Kapengwe were signed together from America, where they starred in a pre-season tournament the Summer before in the height of Docherty positivity, and I saw them in their debuts, a drab, dull day around November time I recall...both were hopelessly out of their depth and could do nothing to stop the rot, they did'nt last too long before returning back to the States.
Signing an African player was very big news back in those days.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 07, 2019, 02:48:11 PM
When I first saw that clip what struck me most was the Trinity terrace, the last bit of the ground that I don't remember. Also, I always connect that era with more blue than we have now.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: adrenachrome on February 07, 2019, 03:12:26 PM
I stood in the Lower Trinity on my first visit to VP with my Dad, 27th December 66 against Sunderland.  He used to park outside a relative's house on Frederick Road and it must have been the first turnstile we encountered.

I think Witton Lane had been converted to all seats for the World Cup earlier in the year.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: TheMalandro on February 07, 2019, 03:12:48 PM
Cheers, enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 07, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
Wonderful stuff.  Was this filmed around the time we didn't have a dedicated training ground?
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 07, 2019, 03:18:16 PM
Beautiful
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: brian green on February 07, 2019, 04:36:41 PM
Loved those blue railings.  There was a bent one just to the side of the Holte goal.  Legend was that it was bent by a Trevor Ford missed penalty.  Thanks for that. (Well I believed it).
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: dave shelley on February 07, 2019, 06:05:30 PM
You can see the temporary podium that was always erected for Match of The Day cameras in the middle of the Trinity Road paddock.  Great to see some of those players from back then too.  I think I caught sight of Dave Simmons RIP there.  Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on February 07, 2019, 07:08:41 PM
I don't know if this is old news to you guys but I inadvertently found something on You Tube last week very similar to this footage. It was shot on the Villa Park pitch in the build up to the 1971 League Cup Final. I think the poster was someone called Villa Boy. Well worth a look if you haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: Virgil Caine on February 07, 2019, 07:19:29 PM
The first six seconds really got to me. There is a whole generation that were not able to witness the majesty of the Trinity Road stand and the beautiful staired frontage. It was, by any measure, a structure that was the embodiment of Aston Villa Football Club and it set us apart from any other football ground in the country.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: DB on February 07, 2019, 07:19:31 PM
What year did the Witton Lane turn from the old rounded roof stand that single tier? Just out of curiosity...
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: dave shelley on February 07, 2019, 07:32:55 PM
What year did the Witton Lane turn from the old rounded roof stand that single tier? Just out of curiosity...

Aprox. 1966 in readiness for the World Cup.  I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: dave shelley on February 07, 2019, 07:37:01 PM
What year did the Witton Lane turn from the old rounded roof stand that single tier? Just out of curiosity...

Aprox. 1966 in readiness for the World Cup.  I could be wrong.  Just found this on Wiki:

The old barrel-shaped roof on the Witton Lane Stand, the only remaining feature of the 1897 Villa Park, was removed in the summer of 1963 and replaced with a plain sloping roof in the same style as the Holte End

It must be '66 when it went all-seater I'm thinking about.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: London Villan on February 07, 2019, 08:26:23 PM
Both great videos.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: DB on February 07, 2019, 09:41:42 PM
What year did the Witton Lane turn from the old rounded roof stand that single tier? Just out of curiosity...

Aprox. 1966 in readiness for the World Cup.  I could be wrong.  Just found this on Wiki:

The old barrel-shaped roof on the Witton Lane Stand, the only remaining feature of the 1897 Villa Park, was removed in the summer of 1963 and replaced with a plain sloping roof in the same style as the Holte End

It must be '66 when it went all-seater I'm thinking about.

Cheers
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: JD on February 08, 2019, 02:35:49 AM
Brilliant footage Chico. That was great to watch and see our once very majestic and great ground.
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: London Villan on February 08, 2019, 11:25:47 AM
Would you move to a stadium like Spursí new one now?
Title: Re: Freddie Mwila, Pathe News
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 09, 2019, 05:49:09 PM
Kapengwe made a quite brilliant debut in a 1-0 win against Carlisle, but faded away after that.
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