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Title: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 16, 2019, 10:58:16 AM
Aston Villa vs Hull City

Saturday 19.1.19

3pm KO
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard on January 16, 2019, 11:08:00 AM
1-1 draw

Hard to believe we are probably not favourites for a game against a team we beat 3 0 away only 5 months ago who were terrible that night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 16, 2019, 11:39:52 AM
2-1 win. Time to get back on track
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 16, 2019, 11:52:40 AM
A nervy 2-1 win (I wish I had a fiver for every time I have made the exact same prediction in the last couple of seasons). Man for man we are better than them but they are in good form.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 16, 2019, 12:29:56 PM
One of those games where we'll be 2-0 up and concede a sloppy one in the 80th minute so we have a nervous ride out for the rest of the game.

They've definitely had a turn around and are in form, but like much of the league and us at the moment, they're a poor side.

Kalinic

Hutton- dire player but not as dire as Taylor
Chester
Elphick
Bree

Hourihane

McGinn
Landsbury

Kodjia
Tammy
Albert
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 16, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
2-1 Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on January 16, 2019, 12:38:31 PM
3-0 Villa the resurgence will start!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 16, 2019, 12:43:08 PM
1-1 can’t see any way out of this cul de sac we’ve ended up in at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 16, 2019, 12:44:08 PM
Steve Sidwell is leading the ball boys out so Villa win for sure.

If anybody wants to bookmark this prediction so they can look like a bin rummaging, bush outside my house sitting, "I'll be Ads and you be David Copperfield" stalker with full on chest tattoo, please note I'm posting for a bit of fun, having recalled Milners volley with Sidwell assist.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa75 on January 16, 2019, 12:54:53 PM
 ;D

All joking aside though, Ads, what's you serious prediction for this game?

I'm holding off on my weekend gets until I know.👍
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 16, 2019, 12:59:09 PM
I dunno. I hope we win, we need to win, we probably should win, but I don't know how much their confidence and maybe our fragility will come into it. I always think scoring first is very important.

I'm hoping for a response.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa75 on January 16, 2019, 01:11:34 PM
We simply have to play so much better than we have recently. A 'performance' is paramount.

Part of me thinks we MUST be due a home win so, fingers crossed, we get it. I dread to think of losing at home to this lot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 16, 2019, 02:26:29 PM
would have been nice to have a new signing for a lift

Rico Henry or someone . . . CM  or a LB  ..   But of course it will be Taylor and probably Whelan starting , wouldnt be suprised If he brings Elmo in .. 

No idea what the score will be , might wait until 30 mins before the game .

We have to win to keep close to the play offs. .

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 16, 2019, 03:50:11 PM
Just seen some stats in support of my Hourihane at the base of the midfield suggestion.

I think he's a liability off the ball, but in that role his average passing accuracy over 5 games with Jack in the team has been 91%. With Connor further up we averaged over the next 5 games 81% passing accuracy, with Whelan playing 4 games there and BB 1.

Put Connor back there and let's keep the fucking ball.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheMalandro on January 16, 2019, 05:25:44 PM
Everything Villa is frustrating at the moment.
I expect it to be postponed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 16, 2019, 05:41:41 PM
Just seen some stats in support of my Hourihane at the base of the midfield suggestion.

I think he's a liability off the ball, but in that role his average passing accuracy over 5 games with Jack in the team has been 91%. With Connor further up we averaged over the next 5 games 81% passing accuracy, with Whelan playing 4 games there and BB 1.

Put Connor back there and let's keep the fucking ball.

You my be right Ads. I thought our best way of defending would be to keep the ball a lot more. Further up the pitch he lets too many players run off him, so moving him back could work out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on January 16, 2019, 06:14:42 PM
Everything Villa is frustrating at the moment.
I expect it to be postponed.

...or even abandoned when we're 3-0 up with ten minutes left.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frank black on January 16, 2019, 06:42:00 PM
Hull win
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 16, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
Hull are the best team in the league, no way we’re getting anything here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 16, 2019, 09:19:55 PM
Boring draw, at best.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 16, 2019, 09:31:55 PM
Hull are the best team in the league, no way we’re getting anything here.

Hardly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 16, 2019, 09:36:00 PM
Hull are the best team in the league, no way we’re getting anything here.

Hardly.

They’re not even the best team in Hull.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 16, 2019, 09:42:51 PM
Hull KR play better football.

Actually, remember when Bruce had Hull KR kick the living day lights out of Grealish?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 16, 2019, 10:00:33 PM
Steve Sidwell is leading the ball boys out so Villa win for sure.

If anybody wants to bookmark this prediction so they can look like a bin rummaging, bush outside my house sitting, "I'll be Ads and you be David Copperfield" stalker with full on chest tattoo, please note I'm posting for a bit of fun, having recalled Milners volley with Sidwell assist.


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Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 16, 2019, 10:47:12 PM
1-1 draw

Hard to believe we are probably not favourites for a game against a team we beat 3 0 away only 5 months ago who were terrible that night.

They were terrible just six weeks ago. No idea how they've suddenly turned into this season's Fulham as aside from Grosicki and Bowen the rest of their team is very average even for this level. Not even at full strength currently.

Get the feeling this will be like QPR game so will go for 2-2 again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 16, 2019, 11:03:34 PM
1-1 draw

Hard to believe we are probably not favourites for a game against a team we beat 3 0 away only 5 months ago who were terrible that night.

We're round about evens or just about odds-on; you can get 11/4 Hull so we definitely are favourites.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dazvillain on January 17, 2019, 12:06:09 AM
would have been nice to have a new signing for a lift

Rico Henry or someone . . . CM  or a LB  ..   But of course it will be Taylor and probably Whelan starting , wouldnt be suprised If he brings Elmo in .. 

No idea what the score will be , might wait until 30 mins before the game .

We have to win to keep close to the play offs. .



Can’t understand how DS keeps saying Jesus is really busy and we concentrate on signing another keeper and go into another game weekend without further improvements / signings on the pitch
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 17, 2019, 12:30:39 AM
would have been nice to have a new signing for a lift

Rico Henry or someone . . . CM  or a LB  ..   But of course it will be Taylor and probably Whelan starting , wouldnt be suprised If he brings Elmo in .. 

No idea what the score will be , might wait until 30 mins before the game .

We have to win to keep close to the play offs. .



Can’t understand how DS keeps saying Jesus is really busy and we concentrate on signing another keeper and go into another game weekend without further improvements / signings on the pitch


I thought Jesus traditionally took time off between Christmas and Easter. Although he should be good at picking a goalkeeper who knows about saving and crosses.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 17, 2019, 12:34:36 AM
Hull win

I'm confused. Are they called 'Hull Win', 'Hull City'or 'Hull Tigers' now?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on January 17, 2019, 12:44:50 PM
What’s changed?

0-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 17, 2019, 01:04:40 PM
Hull have won last 6 on the bounce, so law of averages says Villa win, I'm going 3-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on January 17, 2019, 01:07:02 PM
One team full of confidence, one team utterly devoid of any semblance of confidence or ideas, nailed on capitulation and Hull return the compliment and run out 3 - 0 winners to keep up our record of conceding three goals a game! 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 17, 2019, 01:15:42 PM
I'd be very surprised to see us beat 3-0 again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 17, 2019, 01:17:25 PM
2-4 then?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 17, 2019, 01:38:37 PM
Oh, God, please, please, please can a win game!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 17, 2019, 03:22:05 PM
Can we win a home game please?
It’s been a while.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on January 17, 2019, 04:15:33 PM
1-2 to Hull
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 17, 2019, 04:42:09 PM
November 1967 the one and only time Hull have beat us at Villa Park.

More people believe that we'll lose than win, which is extraordinary really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 17, 2019, 05:35:51 PM
We're beat the these. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 17, 2019, 06:02:58 PM
November 1967 the one and only time Hull have beat us at Villa Park.

More people believe that we'll lose than win, which is extraordinary really.

Given the current form of both teams which has more to do with things than historic performances, it's not that odd really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 17, 2019, 06:14:31 PM
It demonstrates that people are expecting something unique and completely out of kilter with anything else in the past 101 years.

They're a poor side on a good run. See Bristol City. This league is mental for things like that.

We're utterly lopsided but I'm hopeful of a response as, 6 points from 6 games isn't good enough.

I think we're far more likely to put 3 on them myself. Looking forward to it as ever anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on January 17, 2019, 06:29:22 PM
My first live encounter with Villa and Villa Park was seeing us thrash Hull 6-0 in August 1974.
So began the longest love affair of my life.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on January 17, 2019, 08:39:51 PM
Villa last 6 DLWDD
Hull last 6 WWWWWW

3-2
Kodjia, Abraham x2



Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 17, 2019, 08:42:47 PM
It demonstrates that people are expecting something unique and completely out of kilter with anything else in the past 101 years.

They're a poor side on a good run. See Bristol City. This league is mental for things like that.

We're utterly lopsided but I'm hopeful of a response as, 6 points from 6 games isn't good enough.

I think we're far more likely to put 3 on them myself. Looking forward to it as ever anyway.

If Hull are a poor side, what does that make us?

They've won 6 of the last 7 games, conceding only 5 goals,  including winning 2-0 at Leeds and putting six past Bolton.

What relevance does what happened in the last 101 years have to this fixture?

I don't get this misplaced arrogance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 17, 2019, 08:50:42 PM
It demonstrates that people are expecting something unique and completely out of kilter with anything else in the past 101 years.

They're a poor side on a good run. See Bristol City. This league is mental for things like that.

We're utterly lopsided but I'm hopeful of a response as, 6 points from 6 games isn't good enough.

I think we're far more likely to put 3 on them myself. Looking forward to it as ever anyway.

Something unique and out of kilter happened just on Saturday when you look at previously Wigan's one win at home to us in their history.

I agree 6 weeks back and this would've been a comfortable win but it's all changed and I'm not expecting much more than another draw and slipping further off top 6.

It would be nice if this club could surprise us more often but it dosen't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 17, 2019, 08:59:08 PM
Villa win, 2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 17, 2019, 09:29:45 PM
It demonstrates that people are expecting something unique and completely out of kilter with anything else in the past 101 years.

They're a poor side on a good run. See Bristol City. This league is mental for things like that.

We're utterly lopsided but I'm hopeful of a response as, 6 points from 6 games isn't good enough.

I think we're far more likely to put 3 on them myself. Looking forward to it as ever anyway.

If Hull are a poor side, what does that make us?

They've won 6 of the last 7 games, conceding only 5 goals,  including winning 2-0 at Leeds and putting six past Bolton.

What relevance does what happened in the last 101 years have to this fixture?

I don't get this misplaced arrogance.

Its not arrogance. Football fits patterns.

Why could 4th placed Aston Villa, cup winners, FA Cup semi-finalists go to Maine Road and be as shit as we were the year before in the FA Cup with Kinkladze doing us and Walsh before. And for as long as I can remember, even before they became exceptional in 2011? Unless Nicky Weaver was pissed and Pearce had them scoring 10 goals at home in a season.

Why are we, with minor exceptions always poor in Leciester? No matter how good or bad we are, we're desperate on Tyneside, Greater Manchester and Craven Cottage. Countless teams, generation of players and managers. By and large, crap. Yet we always, always, always do Boro.

I think Hull are a poor side because I've seen them. They're poor. So are Boro, it's a poor league.

I've said what we are; lopsided to the point of parody. We're like the Black Knight sans his arms. We have one of the best attacks in the league, it's why we've scored the second highest amount of goals and well capable of booting sides. But we have no defence and the reasons have been done else where, so we're powerless to stop blows reigning in. That's why we're mid-table. For now.

As for arrogance. Why? There's some meek Brummies on here where self belief is a dirty concept. You shouldn't walk onto a pitch respecting your opponent; Bielsa proved that. No respect for the opposition, but instead complete understanding and suddenly a circus club are not such a joke any longer. Knowledge, effort, belief. Don't respect Hull and their run, fuck that. Understand what they've done and meet their confidence and beat them or bleed trying.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fred Crump on January 17, 2019, 09:38:26 PM
It demonstrates that people are expecting something unique and completely out of kilter with anything else in the past 101 years.

They're a poor side on a good run. See Bristol City. This league is mental for things like that.

We're utterly lopsided but I'm hopeful of a response as, 6 points from 6 games isn't good enough.

I think we're far more likely to put 3 on them myself. Looking forward to it as ever anyway.

If Hull are a poor side, what does that make us?

They've won 6 of the last 7 games, conceding only 5 goals,  including winning 2-0 at Leeds and putting six past Bolton.

What relevance does what happened in the last 101 years have to this fixture?

I don't get this misplaced arrogance.

Its not arrogance. Football fits patterns.

Why could 4th placed Aston Villa, cup winners, FA Cup semi-finalists go to Maine Road and be as shit as we were the year before in the FA Cup with Kinkladze doing us and Walsh before. And for as long as I can remember, even before they became exceptional in 2011? Unless Nicky Weaver was pissed and Pearce had them scoring 10 goals at home in a season.

Why are we, with minor exceptions always poor in Leciester? No matter how good or bad we are, we're desperate on Tyneside, Greater Manchester and Craven Cottage. Countless teams, generation of players and managers. By and large, crap. Yet we always, always, always do Boro.

I think Hull are a poor side because I've seen them. They're poor. So are Boro, it's a poor league.

I've said what we are; lopsided to the point of parody. We're like the Black Knight sans his arms. We have one of the best attacks in the league, it's why we've scored the second highest amount of goals and well capable of booting sides. But we have no defence and the reasons have been done else where, so we're powerless to stop blows reigning in. That's why we're mid-table. For now.

As for arrogance. Why? There's some meek Brummies on here where self belief is a dirty concept. You shouldn't walk onto a pitch respecting your opponent; Bielsa proved that. No respect for the opposition, but instead complete understanding and suddenly a circus club are not such a joke any longer. Knowledge, effort, belief. Don't respect Hull and their run, fuck that. Understand what they've done and meet their confidence and beat them or bleed trying.

Ads, as a meek Brummie, respect Sir, that's positively Shakesperean! Love it :) !! I for one will be walking into the Trinity with more confidence on Saturday as a result of your pep talk  - you're right - lets f*ck the f*ckers !!! UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on January 17, 2019, 09:42:18 PM
Just win Villa. For a pleasant change, if nothing else!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Allan C on January 17, 2019, 11:49:55 PM
3-0 Villa for me, I’m with Ads  Hull are a poor side on a good run. Despite our recent downturn I think someone somewhere is gonna get the backlash and it might as well be Hull
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 18, 2019, 08:57:58 AM
I remember thinking Bowen looked a player in our first home game of last season when Gabby scored and Green couldn't head properly. Feels a lifetime ago but the Hull boy has really come into his own and I wince thinking of him running the show while Hourihane and old man Whelan wheeze in his wake.

We'll score a couple of belters but as ever, our soft-centre will undo us and it's another 2-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dazvillain on January 18, 2019, 09:12:06 AM
Having just read the post about ages of our squad I’m just wondering if our squad can actually reproduce our high intensity game week in week out. I’ve been critical in past few weeks but now believe that DS does need and has been given the time to change the make up of the squad and will have to accept that we may be in championship for the next few years.
I just hope that the 11 picked every week for the rest of the season do the best they possibly can.....I’m sure they’re being paid enough to do so
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 18, 2019, 09:32:12 AM
Really need to find a win here. Really need to sort the midfield out and find a blend which will stop teams passing through us, while we create chances, Lord knows what that is though. Our wide players really need to turn up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 18, 2019, 09:35:25 AM
It demonstrates that people are expecting something unique and completely out of kilter with anything else in the past 101 years.

They're a poor side on a good run. See Bristol City. This league is mental for things like that.

We're utterly lopsided but I'm hopeful of a response as, 6 points from 6 games isn't good enough.

I think we're far more likely to put 3 on them myself. Looking forward to it as ever anyway.

If Hull are a poor side, what does that make us?

They've won 6 of the last 7 games, conceding only 5 goals,  including winning 2-0 at Leeds and putting six past Bolton.

What relevance does what happened in the last 101 years have to this fixture?

I don't get this misplaced arrogance.

Its not arrogance. Football fits patterns.

Why could 4th placed Aston Villa, cup winners, FA Cup semi-finalists go to Maine Road and be as shit as we were the year before in the FA Cup with Kinkladze doing us and Walsh before. And for as long as I can remember, even before they became exceptional in 2011? Unless Nicky Weaver was pissed and Pearce had them scoring 10 goals at home in a season.

Why are we, with minor exceptions always poor in Leciester? No matter how good or bad we are, we're desperate on Tyneside, Greater Manchester and Craven Cottage. Countless teams, generation of players and managers. By and large, crap. Yet we always, always, always do Boro.

I think Hull are a poor side because I've seen them. They're poor. So are Boro, it's a poor league.

I've said what we are; lopsided to the point of parody. We're like the Black Knight sans his arms. We have one of the best attacks in the league, it's why we've scored the second highest amount of goals and well capable of booting sides. But we have no defence and the reasons have been done else where, so we're powerless to stop blows reigning in. That's why we're mid-table. For now.

As for arrogance. Why? There's some meek Brummies on here where self belief is a dirty concept. You shouldn't walk onto a pitch respecting your opponent; Bielsa proved that. No respect for the opposition, but instead complete understanding and suddenly a circus club are not such a joke any longer. Knowledge, effort, belief. Don't respect Hull and their run, fuck that. Understand what they've done and meet their confidence and beat them or bleed trying.

When I've got some time on my hands, I'm going to do a post called "Mystic Ads Predicts" because with all the genuine respect and admiration in the world, nothing you ever say ever comes right! 😉😘
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 18, 2019, 09:55:47 AM
Feel free to come and rub my face in it when Hull beat us 3-0.

The post you've quoted isn't a prediction.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on January 18, 2019, 10:43:53 AM
Sadly think this has a draw written all over it.  1-1.  Tammy to score ours.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on January 18, 2019, 11:22:00 AM
need a good response from the team after last Saturdays poor showing...and if we can keep that elusive clean sheet then 2 nil to the Villa

if not then 3-2 Villa

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr_Fegg on January 18, 2019, 12:58:14 PM
would have been nice to have a new signing for a lift

Rico Henry or someone . . . CM  or a LB  ..   But of course it will be Taylor and probably Whelan starting , wouldnt be suprised If he brings Elmo in .. 

No idea what the score will be , might wait until 30 mins before the game .

We have to win to keep close to the play offs. .



Can’t understand how DS keeps saying Jesus is really busy and we concentrate on signing another keeper and go into another game weekend without further improvements / signings on the pitch


I thought Jesus traditionally took time off between Christmas and Easter. Although he should be good at picking a goalkeeper who knows about saving and crosses.

And the winner of H&V quote of the year goes to.....truly outstanding (applause emoticon which wont post)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on January 18, 2019, 01:04:56 PM
We really have to stop saying that Hull are crap, they have won their last six games, any team doing that deserves respect!

I went to Wigan last week absolutely full of optimism to the extent of having a good bet on us beating them, I couldn't see any other result!
We totally and utterly capitulated to the extent of not even having one shot on target!
I was totally shocked at what I had just witnessed as I thought those days were over.

Anyway, apparently there has been a positive reaction (I thought we supposedly had that after the Swansea debacle) but I just don't believe that you can go from one extreme to another in just a week, however I hope to be surprised but my expectations are currently very low.

P.S. Hopefully you are right and I am wrong, Ads! UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 18, 2019, 02:00:04 PM
Mystic Clampy predicts a 2-2 draw. We will go a goal up, Hull will go 2-1 up, their fans will do that Mauled by the Tigers malarkey, then we'll equalise. Mcginn will be man of the match. Maybe.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 18, 2019, 02:05:04 PM
Would really like to see Davis start, moving Tammy on the left, things need to be freshened up, no idea how we do that in midfield as we are short of quality there. Maybe Connor at the base, McGinn, A N Other.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 18, 2019, 02:11:48 PM
I don't have to stop anything. Hull are crap. They're on a good run, I hope somebody's bothered to watch them and find out why. They might beat us. They'll still be crap.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LowerNorthStand on January 18, 2019, 04:44:41 PM
2-1 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimsta on January 18, 2019, 05:51:12 PM
I come to England to see Family over Christmas and i attended the WBA where we was very good and unlucky not to win.
Since that we have been rubbish but the good news i am back off to Thailand again so the Villa will go back to winning ways, So very sorry for the Villa bad form as i'm sure it was me.
Enjoy tomorrow as i be flying over Turkey while the game is on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 18, 2019, 07:52:00 PM
I come to England to see Family over Christmas and i attended the WBA where we was very good and unlucky not to win.
Since that we have been rubbish but the good news i am back off to Thailand again so the Villa will go back to winning ways, So very sorry for the Villa bad form as i'm sure it was me.
Enjoy tomorrow as i be flying over Turkey while the game is on.

Love this post! Bon voyage.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 18, 2019, 09:30:48 PM
Grosicki and Bowen will be extremely dangerous against our donkey full backs, they're very good players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 18, 2019, 10:05:54 PM
Same leaky defence ... "crap" Hull to take advantage and use pace down the flanks
Lions 1 Tigers 3
A few boos at the end
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 18, 2019, 10:11:29 PM
I am always positive until I see the same old line up, containing the likes of Bjarnasson and Hourihane, Hutton and Taylor.  Moving Tammy out left might be a good idea, with Davis up front.  A scrappy doo dah win, any old score will be great. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 18, 2019, 10:12:32 PM
Whelan is the heart sinker for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 18, 2019, 10:23:01 PM
Do you think Nuno will start Abraham against Leicester tomorrow, or introduce him from the bench later on?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 18, 2019, 11:09:46 PM
The only dingle I know said he was only good enough for their bench so if selected I presume he will sit on a bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 18, 2019, 11:11:32 PM
Same leaky defence ... "crap" Hull to take advantage and use pace down the flanks
Lions 1 Tigers 3
A few boos at the end
You are such a meek brummie still VCTM despite living in Scouseland for many years. Don't you know Hull are mince ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on January 18, 2019, 11:52:45 PM
Same leaky defence ... "crap" Hull to take advantage and use pace down the flanks
Lions 1 Tigers 3
A few boos at the end
You are such a meek brummie still VCTM despite living in Scouseland for many years. Don't you know Hull are mince ;)

I share your misgivings about the mince meme, Mr. Aftab, and it has surely run its course by now.

This division has changed big time in the last few seasons. The economic outcome of getting your snout into the top division trough plus the danger of slipping out of the relatively smaller emoluments of the Championship has galvanised clubs.

They are all now stacked with decent foreign players, are well organised and very fit. Many are prepared to take advantage of the useless officials to kick the crap out of their opponents. Witness Blose at Norwich tonight. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 19, 2019, 01:30:18 AM
Birkenhead is a weird and desolate place, but it's still England. England after the balloon has gone up, but England nonetheless.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on January 19, 2019, 08:29:26 AM
We are total shambles at the back. 3-1 win for Hull.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on January 19, 2019, 09:01:47 AM
I know there's a thread about the lows of being a fan....

But if we lose today, and the Hull fans are singing "You're getting mauled by the Tigers" (complete with mauling tiger hand gestures) , that might be the new low.

Having said that, I'm really hopeful there will be a reaction today. 2-1 win for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 19, 2019, 09:02:36 AM
Bowen is their best player and Grosicki is decent. Other than that I'd struggle to name another player they have? Jackson Irvine and he isn't available (playing in Asian Cup for Australia).

If our wingers play well then we should win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 19, 2019, 09:04:39 AM
I always think the first 15 minutes is a bit of a bellwether for us at home. Everybody is hoping for that response that's desperately needed.

Please no Whelan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 19, 2019, 09:04:57 AM
Grosicki and Bowen will be extremely dangerous against our donkey full backs, they're very good players.

I really like Grosicki, he works hard as well.

As for that Mauled buy the Tigers, I quite like it. It's just a bit of fun. Couldn't we sing Mauled by the Lions back at them?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 19, 2019, 09:06:26 AM
They haven't done it for years, so I assumed against Leeds it was done out of irony, what with Leeds being such big, hard rufty-tufty, proper fan types. Made me laugh any way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 19, 2019, 09:11:24 AM
Grosicki and Bowen will be extremely dangerous against our donkey full backs, they're very good players.

I really like Grosicki, he works hard as well.

As for that Mauled buy the Tigers, I quite like it. It's just a bit of fun. Couldn't we sing Mauled by the Lions back at them?

Final warning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 19, 2019, 09:16:38 AM
C'mon Dave, do the actions now!

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LowerNorthStand on January 19, 2019, 09:21:43 AM
C'mon Dave, do the actions now!



Haha do they still do this

Funny stuff
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 19, 2019, 09:33:42 AM
Grosicki and Bowen will be extremely dangerous against our donkey full backs, they're very good players.

I really like Grosicki, he works hard as well.

As for that Mauled buy the Tigers, I quite like it. It's just a bit of fun. Couldn't we sing Mauled by the Lions back at them?

Final warning.

I'm right though, Grosicki is a decent player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 19, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
I like Grosicki too, looks too good to be playing at this level.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on January 19, 2019, 09:40:07 AM
Keep bigging him up, lads. It’s a surefire way of cursing him to have a mare today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2019, 09:55:03 AM
My heart sinks when I see Whelan, Bjarnason or Taylor starting. Trouble is, the squad is so unbalanced it’s hard to leave them all out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 19, 2019, 09:56:34 AM
Grosicki and Bowen are good and with our fullbacks that’s scary.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dazvillain on January 19, 2019, 10:01:47 AM
I always think the first 15 minutes is a bit of a bellwether for us at home. Everybody is hoping for that response that's desperately needed.

Please no Whelan.

He can only play what he’s got left from the previous idiot. Whelan has had some decent games and BB looks out of sorts currently . Unless Jedinak comes in I don’t see a better option....unfortunately for us all
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: postal on January 19, 2019, 10:05:58 AM
Not sure how this will go. I think we'll come out 'strong', go behind from a goal in 15 -20 mins, we equalise just before half time. Very nervy 2nd half, but we get another ~75, and it all gets a bit sticky to the end.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2019, 10:06:36 AM
I'd be happy with a point today - given how pathetic we've been of late. The Tigers must be licking there lips (sorry) at the prospect of playing our rabble, so I hope to God DS puts rockets up backsides today & his charges respond in a positive stylee. His selection 'choices' must be akin to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, but I hope he shows some bravery & decides to reshuffle his shitty pack. More of the same nonsense will surely lead to another dicking & more ire from the stands, so 'fingers crossed for yet another one of those crazy days of Chumpionship football.

I'll go for an optimistic 1-1.

Marvellous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2019, 10:13:35 AM
I'd be happy with a point today - given how pathetic we've been of late. The Tigers must be licking there lips (sorry) at the prospect of playing our rabble, so I hope to God DS puts rockets up backsides today & his charges respond in a positive stylee.


He said that they've responded well in training, but then he said that after the FA Cup debacle.  We'll see I guess, but I can't see us getting out of this slump for a while yet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 19, 2019, 10:14:03 AM
You're right unfortunately Risso.

Hutton for Taylor, but Hourihane at the base and maybe McGinn as the only other, with Davis as a 442. Slightly deeper than ordinary to drag a midfielder back and allow territory? Two out and out wingers pressed higher to stop our full backs being pinned back?

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2019, 10:17:48 AM
You're right unfortunately Risso.

Hutton for Taylor, but Hourihane at the base and maybe McGinn as the only other, with Davis as a 442. Slightly deeper than ordinary to drag a midfielder back and allow territory? Two out and out wingers pressed higher to stop our full backs being pinned back?



I'd go

It must be Lovre, Lovre Lovre.
Elmo Chester Elphick Hutton
Hourihane McGinn
Kodjia Tammy Albert
Davis

Something like that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 19, 2019, 10:20:47 AM
We need to keep the ball and keep it much higher up and Davis is the only idea I have for doing that at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2019, 10:24:57 AM
We can't defend at all, so we need to go back to trying to win games 4-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2019, 10:26:43 AM
My heart sinks when I see Whelan, Bjarnason or Taylor starting. Trouble is, the squad is so unbalanced it’s hard to leave them all out.
My heart sinks when I see Nyland, Hutton, Bree, Chester, Elphick, Taylor, Whelan, Bjarnasson, Lansbury, Hogan, and Adomah start for us. Other than those 11 we have a decent team somewhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2019, 10:27:57 AM
I'd be happy with a point today - given how pathetic we've been of late. The Tigers must be licking there lips (sorry) at the prospect of playing our rabble, so I hope to God DS puts rockets up backsides today & his charges respond in a positive stylee.


He said that they've responded well in training, but then he said that after the FA Cup debacle.  We'll see I guess, but I can't see us getting out of this slump for a while yet.

I can't either, but I know we all live in hope of some (cough) 'green shoots of recovery' becoming visible. How times have changed from that remarkable night in Derby...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 19, 2019, 10:28:41 AM
Very harsh to include Adomah, who works his nuts off and has produced many assists and goals and Chester who was player of the season for us with clowns like Lansbury and Hogan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2019, 10:31:34 AM
We can't defend at all, so we need to go back to trying to win games 4-2.
This is correct. Things went wrong when Smith tried to keep clean sheets. We just do not have any capable defenders.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2019, 10:34:06 AM
We need to keep the ball and keep it much higher up and Davis is the only idea I have for doing that at the moment.

Absolutely. Unfortunately I have a feeling that our lot will see Davis as a convenient excuse to lump balls aimlessly forward at every opportunity.  ::)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 19, 2019, 10:39:32 AM
My heart sinks when I see Whelan, Bjarnason or Taylor starting. Trouble is, the squad is so unbalanced it’s hard to leave them all out.
My heart sinks when I see Nyland, Hutton, Bree, Chester, Elphick, Taylor, Whelan, Bjarnasson, Lansbury, Hogan, and Adomah start for us. Other than those 11 we have a decent team somewhere.

Haha. I'd add Hourihane and Elmohamady to that list.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 19, 2019, 10:44:25 AM
My heart sinks when I see Whelan, Bjarnason or Taylor starting. Trouble is, the squad is so unbalanced it’s hard to leave them all out.
My heart sinks when I see Nyland, Hutton, Bree, Chester, Elphick, Taylor, Whelan, Bjarnasson, Lansbury, Hogan, and Adomah start for us. Other than those 11 we have a decent team somewhere.

Very harsh on Chester who has been playing through an injury of late. Adomah has been a decent signing for us as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 19, 2019, 10:52:50 AM
Lansburys has been awful for us since we signed him but I actually wish he was fit today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 19, 2019, 11:07:20 AM
Lansburys has been awful for us since we signed him but I actually wish he was fit today.

I think it’s a little unfair to say he’s been awful. He’s been extremely mediocre, and certainly not the player he was at Forest, but I think there have been a few moments of relative usefulness. As you say, I’d cebrtainly take a fully fit Lansbury in our side at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on January 19, 2019, 11:10:21 AM
I'm not fussed about promotion now as there is obviously a lot of squad rebuilding to be done before we're ready to tackle the prem. But I do want us to get back to winning ways and playing the exciting football of a few weeks ago. Hull are in top form so it's obviously going to be tough. Let's hope we can just get our mojo back and see where it takes us.
Us 3 Hull 2. Late winner from Kodja.
Oh and another thing.  Come on the Holte make some fucking  noise today. It's been dead lately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 19, 2019, 11:14:17 AM
I can't remember being so confident we'd lose a home game for a very long time

Really hope we can pull something out the bag. That happens in football. But it normally involves a really gritty, solid perfomance

I just can't see it at the moment.

. Hope I'm wrong

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 19, 2019, 11:20:11 AM
I really hate whelan at the base and hourihane further fwd

But struggling to see the alternative. We NEVER look good playing 442. Bjarnason has been awful since coming back. I've gone off the idea of el ghazi as a 10 since he started playing so poorly. Ohare played last night and really doesn't look ready

I can't really see another option
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa75 on January 19, 2019, 11:47:19 AM
For those of you not expecting us to be Hull at home or challenge for promotion this season, can I ask, what your serious expectations are for the rest of the season?

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 19, 2019, 11:47:53 AM
Feels like quite a big game today to be honest.  Really could do with a win, but think it might be a tough one as Hull have two of the best wide players in the division an we struggle against that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on January 19, 2019, 11:48:00 AM
1.1
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 19, 2019, 11:49:59 AM
Ive seen photos of Green and Kodjia turning up at VP today. Have Green on the bench and start Kodjia on the right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: old man villa fan on January 19, 2019, 11:51:03 AM
I come to England to see Family over Christmas and i attended the WBA where we was very good and unlucky not to win.
Since that we have been rubbish but the good news i am back off to Thailand again so the Villa will go back to winning ways, So very sorry for the Villa bad form as i'm sure it was me.
Enjoy tomorrow as i be flying over Turkey while the game is on.

I'm flying in the opposite direction and should be able to catch up on the match in Bangkok before my flight is called. Villa are always c*** when I am in Thailand, other than when I worked here in the 90s.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on January 19, 2019, 11:57:41 AM
For those of you not expecting us to be Hull at home or challenge for promotion this season, can I ask, what your serious expectations are for the rest of the season?




Finish as high as possible and get a system of play and momentum going.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on January 19, 2019, 11:58:00 AM
scrappy 1-0 scored in the last 10 minutes by a fluke shot deflected of a defender (yes i am completely ignoring form)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2019, 12:05:26 PM
For those of you not expecting us to beat Hull at home or challenge for promotion this season, can I ask, what your serious expectations are for the rest of the season?



I no longer have any "serious expectations": just hope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2019, 12:15:02 PM
For those of you not expecting us to be Hull at home or challenge for promotion this season, can I ask, what your serious expectations are for the rest of the season?



Start clearing out the dead wood, and plan for life without Grealish next season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 19, 2019, 12:15:35 PM
Lansburys has been awful for us since we signed him but I actually wish he was fit today.

I think it’s a little unfair to say he’s been awful. He’s been extremely mediocre, and certainly not the player he was at Forest, but I think there have been a few moments of relative usefulness. As you say, I’d cebrtainly take a fully fit Lansbury in our side at the moment.

Maybe I meant , not had our moneys worth but needs a chance under DS
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 19, 2019, 12:24:41 PM
Got a feeling Elphick will score for us today.

Actually if I was DS I'd let him do the teamtalk as he knows their team inside out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 19, 2019, 12:27:55 PM
Would keep Tammy upfront but would add Adomah, Bolaise and El Ghazi (number 10 role) behind him.

McGinn + whoever DS draws out of the hat today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2019, 01:06:41 PM
Got a feeling Elphick will score for us today.

Actually if I was DS I'd let him do the teamtalk as he knows their team inside out.
That's good but it's shame he doesn't know his own role inside out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oldham_villa on January 19, 2019, 01:19:24 PM
i'd love to see two strikers, 3 in the middle, and a floater.

....as opposed to last week where we had 11 floaters
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2019, 02:02:09 PM
Neil Taylor keeps his place.  Fucking hell Dean.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Hull City: Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimsta on January 19, 2019, 02:09:50 PM
I come to England to see Family over Christmas and i attended the WBA where we was very good and unlucky not to win.
Since that we have been rubbish but the good news i am back off to Thailand again so the Villa will go back to winning ways, So very sorry for the Villa bad form as i'm sure it was me.
Enjoy tomorrow as i be flying over Turkey while the game is on.

I'm flying in the opposite direction and should be able to catch up on the match in Bangkok before my flight is called. Villa are always c*** when I am in Thailand, other than when I worked here in the 90s.

I'm on the flight now back to Bangkok with Emirates free wifi on board, So i be keeping up to date with the score while i be flying over middle east. So we crossing flight paths in a few hours.
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