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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 12, 2019, 02:11:04 PM
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The right line up
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We go again. Oh, sorry. Wrong manager.
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Win please Villa.
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No Kodjia in the squad which is a bit of a surprise.
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No Kodjia in the squad which is a bit of a surprise.
Supposedly spotted on a flight to France this morning...or just twitter B.S.
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No Kodjia in the squad which is a bit of a surprise.
Not fit
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Full-back and centre-back balance! Wahoo!!
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Hope we get more from our full backs in an attacking sense today.
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Full-back and centre-back balance! Wahoo!!
And a back-up CB on the bench. Looking forward to Hause being in the team and Elphick being the back-up. Let's hope Hause is a success. UTV.
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There's surely enough in that squad to see off a piss poor Wigan side.
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Kodjia's been photographed at the airport today - heading to France.
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There's surely enough in that squad to see off a piss poor Wigan side.
I think we will. Dean said he had a long chat with the post Swansea and showed them the level he's trying to get them to by watching the Man City/Liverpool game. There also seemed a renewed enthusiasm at the club after Hause had signed and Tammy stayed with Jack getting out of his boot. That while things aren't perfect some of the clouds have started to clear. But we'll see in how we come out and if we are able to once again dominate possession and create chances. Tough without Jack not being in the side.
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no elmo in the squad
spotted at KCOM Stadium on twitter
..if carlsberg did transfers
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Kodjia's been photographed at the airport today - heading to France.
Interesting. Famous last words but we must be very confident they'll be no last minute u-turn from Tammy/Chelsea.
I'd keep Kodj until the summer and then let him go if we don't go up as he'll be nearly 30 and in last year of his contract.
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Not live on sky today is it? AVTV isn't working!!
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Not live on sky today is it? AVTV isn't working!!
It is the EPL live 3pm game (proper camera angles and all that) so will be plenty of streams floating around.
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No excuses, solid team picked.
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Wigan should be leading. Great Kalinic save.
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Chester gave ball away. That hasn't happened much this season!
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goalie saves the defence
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If anyone has a stream they can PM it would be much obliged...
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If anyone has a stream they can PM it would be much obliged...
me too please
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If anyone has a stream they can PM it would be much obliged...
Me too please.
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Abraham has got to score there.
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tammyy good chance
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If anyone has a stream they can PM it would be much obliged...
Me too please.
Me too please :-)
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WBA 1-0 Norwich.
Dwight Gayle back and scoring.
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And me please
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We’re not playing very well.
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We’re not playing very well.
We aren't are we.
We just look.slow and disjointed. I'm getting a bit tired of our players. They seem inept.
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looks like a training match
come on villa at least make the effort
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As usual, the opposition are dirty bastards and the ref is letting them get away with it.
I fucking hate this tinpot league.
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McGinn there holds off four men, retains the ball and wins the foul. El Gazi runs into one man, loses the ball and commits the foul.
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This is fucking dire. What has happened to our passing game?
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Simple passes astray all over...It's not as if they are high pressing.
They are very niggly..Morsey should be off...he caught Mcginn off the ball,20 seconds after a yellow..
Again the long direct ball is catching us out
We do look as if we can make chances though
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I really, really, really hope that we are working hard at bringing in several new players.
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Players obviously didn't pay much attention during the Man City Liverpool video.
Commentators seem to think El Ghazi is playing in goal for us. Does anyone want a stream?
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Yes please Axl.
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Can you pm me a stream please
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This is fucking dire. What has happened to our passing game?
That game has passed us by.
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Taylor is a piss poor excuse for a left back.
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Yes please Axi
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Players obviously didn't pay much attention during the Man City Liverpool video.
Commentators seem to think El Ghazi is playing in goal for us. Does anyone want a stream?
Me too s.
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Taylor is a piss poor excuse for a left back.
He’s at best a back up. Maybe even a back up to a back up
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Me too Axl, thankyou.
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yannick wtf was that
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El ghazi simple passes and link play are shocking. Bolasie not brought his shooting boots either
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Thank god Wigan are rubbish because this is just as bad as Swansea.
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Bolasie has his toblarone boots on again.
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Yes please Axl.
Yes please
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Bolasie lets one fly. With no accuracy.
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yannick wtf was that
Was just about to post the same. Awful.
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Me too please axl
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WTF has happened to us? Come on Villa!!
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We are just too wasteful in front of goal. And Hourihane is poncing around again
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Chester remains car crash at the back. Needless corner.
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Sounds the usual shite.
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Oh the mighty Jordan Bowery, scores for Crewe!!
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Birmingham losing.
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This is particularly shocking today
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We're looking so ordinary at the moment.
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That should have been a red for Garner
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Boro 1 up
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Sitting in the rain watching this shite. Fuck me.
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A foul but Thor made a meal of it.
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Based on tv replay Wigan should be down to 10 for that elbow on bb
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Yes please Axl
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1-0 Wigan
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Is the ref watching this game?
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There we go. Taylor is fucking wank. Useless ******.
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So many of our lot are piss weak in the tackle
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Can't say it hasn't been coming.
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All so poor.
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Fuck sake
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FUCK OFF
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ffs 1-0
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We are a fucking mess. Neil Taylor is a disgrace
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Crap. Crap. Crap. Thought Louvre did well for the first save, but Jesus, our defence should never have put him in that position for the 2nd
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We need a whole new back four. They're all fucking useless.
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taylor absolute rubbish
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bloody hate clubs who have to play music when they score! come on Villa FFS
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So many of our lot are piss weak in the tackle
It was almost as if Taylor didn’t exist there, very weak
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Taylor is useless
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What the hell has happened to this team? So depressing. And typically, Wigan havent scored or won forever. Typical typical Villa.
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Skinned Taylor out wide and the he just jogged back following attacker 😡
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For that passage of play they were absolutely all over us.
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Is it too early for me to start questioning Dean Smith. We cannot keep a clean sheet and have gone to absolute rat shit all over the park. I'm sick of seeing this shit week in and week out.
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We are being out thought by a team who are on. a dreadful run.. What does Smith do with them all week?
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There we go. Taylor is fucking wank. Useless c***.
Totally agree, what a useless shower of shite.
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I do not enjoy watching us play at all.
Come on Villa, sort yourselves out
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Hourihane in the heart of a doing fuck all challenge for their goal....again
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It was great skill the way he skinned Taylor, his jogging back after though was piss poor.
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must admit we look awful
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Pathetic Taylor..with his equally half soaked brother El Ghazi...totally switched off for the crossfield ball...lazily ambled across when he could see their man free at the back post..then done like a kipper once it came out
He looks utterly knackered after 35 minutes..
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We've been beyond awful. Wigan fully deserve to be leading.
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What happened to the high pressing game? We can't get near them. It's fucking Wigan ffs. We're making them look like Man City.
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Fuck me Wigan are playing us off the park. How can we go from looking like world beaters to so shit in a month?
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starting to think play offs aint happenning
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Players obviously didn't pay much attention during the Man City Liverpool video.
Commentators seem to think El Ghazi is playing in goal for us. Does anyone want a stream?
Yes please. Are there any where you don’t have to install anything ( whatever that means).
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1 win in 14 Wigan looking far better than us.
#Villacausesadnessinmyeyes
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Hourihane in the heart of a doing fuck all challenge for their goal....again
A passenger in our midfield - Would be half decent if he realised there's more to playing in midfield than the odd hollywood pass or thunderbolt strike.
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It's as if we're playing a different sport to other teams.
Wigan have looked far superior to us. They've looked sharper, faster, fitter and braver.
Hourihane needs to get his finger out. Taylor is embarrassing. As are Elphick, Chester and Bjarnason. Bolaise is a woeful player
Big improvement needed second half.
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starting to think play offs aint happenning
That’s because they ain’t.
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Is it too early for me to start questioning Dean Smith. We cannot keep a clean sheet and have gone to absolute rat shit all over the park. I'm sick of seeing this shit week in and week out.
Maybe not too early but is it a case of the last half a dozen mgrs not getting to grips with big club or expectation , or if the fans are honest have we found our level as a top half championship club for the next 5 years or so ?
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A few boos at HT according to the wireless commentary.
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Players obviously didn't pay much attention during the Man City Liverpool video.
Commentators seem to think El Ghazi is playing in goal for us. Does anyone want a stream?
Yes please. Are there any where you don’t have to install anything ( whatever that means).
I PM'd you Percy, does it not work?
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Taylor was our worst player by miles last week. When our defence is easily our weakest feature, why is Taylor even considered?
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I'd much rather have Albert than El Ghazi. At least Albert tracks back.
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It absolutely does not make sense what has happened to us, since that West Brom equaliser we have gone from playing slick stylish football steam rolling the division like we should with the players at our disposal to a team playing and doing even worse than the BruceBall regime!!!
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Honestly. How have we in the matter of weeks become absolutely shit?
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Another flat performance in that half. We seem to have lost our mojo the last few games
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A few boos at HT according to the wireless commentary.
Thought I heard a few on the box.
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Either the expectancy of playing for a club like Villa is too much for these players, or they are just not up to it, or it is poor coaching.
We aren’t tight enough, don’t track runners and look as though our boots are made of lead
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This is beginning to get concerning. I'm prepared to give Smith time, but I think we've been poorer for longer than we've been better under him.
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El Ghazi contributed SFA in that half.
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camped in our own half against Wigan Athletic
the manager has got that what’s going on clueless look that seems to come with the Villa job
Pathetic
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HT
back four shite
Houriane shit
Ronaldo Shite
Bolaise cant he control the ball - shite
goalie made 2 good saves and abraham should have stuck one away , thats why he will never play for chelsea
playoffs? Im not sure
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I think the problem with this team is lack of intelligences - in other words, so many players are fucking stupid - no brain power, idiot decisions.
Why play in the air with the wind???
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We've been battered, no response from the Swansea game at all.
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The opportunity we have the rest of this season is to position ourselves for the next one: to determine who needs to be shifted, who deserves a first-team call-up, and to build a real side of players we own that can push for promotion and stick a level up. We aren't there today, but Smith will sort it out, given time.
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I have had sloppy shits that have more fibre than our lot. Taylor, el khazi and Hourihane in particular
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Honestly. How have we in the matter of weeks become absolutely shit?
Jack Grealish
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Players obviously didn't pay much attention during the Man City Liverpool video.
Commentators seem to think El Ghazi is playing in goal for us. Does anyone want a stream?
Yes please. Are there any where you don’t have to install anything ( whatever that means).
Have PM'd you, Percy.
Did it not work?
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Failure to deal with the loss of key players and to recover from a few bad results. Why do the players suddenly look devoid of confidence after 2-3 bad results?
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Honestly. How have we in the matter of weeks become absolutely shit?
Jack grealish.
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You can't tell me that the whole team has gone to shit because one player is missing.
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Players obviously didn't pay much attention during the Man City Liverpool video.
Commentators seem to think El Ghazi is playing in goal for us. Does anyone want a stream?
Yes please. Are there any where you don’t have to install anything ( whatever that means).
Have PM'd you, Percy.
Did it not work?
Sam for me ended up on a click to install page from some vpn app.
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It doesn't matter whether we are Aston Villa or Accrington Stanley we should still be able to put together a competent performance across the pitch. They get paid so much it doesn't matter if they play for Real Madrid or Horsham YMCA. Bloody useless.
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You can't tell me that the whole team has gone to shit because one player is missing.
looks like it
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You can't tell me that the whole team has gone to shit because one player is missing.
I think it has though and that’s not to do with grealish so much as Smith’s inability to adapt to cope.
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Can't keep changing the manager but jeez, this is starting to look like Bruce all over again. With the talent available, surely someone can get a tune out of this lot.
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You can't tell me that the whole team has gone to shit because one player is missing.
It’s some indictment if that’s what it is because the top teams are certainly not dependent upon just one player.
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So 1-0 down to toothless Wigan. It's depressing and even more so when you see the likes of Cardiff, Fulham, Huddersfield, Burnley, Bournemouth, Brighton. Crystal Palace, Southampton, Leicester, Watford lording it in the division above us.
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You can't tell me that the whole team has gone to shit because one player is missing.
It’s some indictment if that’s what it is because the top teams are certainly not dependent upon just one player.
Exactly right.
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You can't tell me that the whole team has gone to shit because one player is missing.
The timing of his injury and the instant drop in the team's performance can't be a coincidence though can it? His swagger obviously rubs off on his teammates and his ability to draw the opposition, creating space for the rest of the team can't be ignored.
It's wrong, they should be able to perform at that level regardless of who's in the 11, but that's the way it is. Shite! :(
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Fucking disgraceful again.
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Only Grealish is missing to be fair. Tuanzebe was doing better, but we were still giving stupid goals away and not keeping clean sheets. If the plan is to assess the squad for the remainder of the season before letting lots of them go in the summer, such as the out of contract players and the loans, then Smith should come out and say so, instead of saying that we are pushing for promotion, which is simply not happening. He would still have our support and we'd have something to look forward to. The standard of football just recently is no better than anything fistface served up. It's absolute shite.
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Anyway, we're due a good half surely!
FT: Wigan 1-4 Villa
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A short lived bounce and a few games of positive football followed by increasingly grim and clueless performances. That’s more like Sherwood than Bruce.
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Down to 12th at mo, 2 goals away from potentially being 7th at 5pm.....come on !!
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Are there streams for this?
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Just saw the replay of the goal and Taylor was at fault for not picking up the guy who headed it for Kalinic’s save, and then just wandered out to to tackle the winger without actually doing anything. Truly shocking and an embarrassment to the shirt
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We are just not very good
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We are just not very good
But we can be. We have players who can rip teams to pieces, but they are playing so badly, making stupid decisions and some, quite frankly, not looking too bothered. It's so frustrating.
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So yet more unacceptable shite, eh?
Brilliant. >:(
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We need a manager, this manager, to do a Red Adair who put out burning oil wells will big explosions. This team of ours is so half arsed, so half baked, so couldn't care less they need somebody in the dressing room at this moment and on the training ground next week who will explode and frighten the fucking living daylights out of them. They are playing like 11 Gabbys.
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Taylor has been shit and El Ghazi not much better. I'd be tempted to change them for Hutton and Albert. We need something to change and quick
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Are there streams for this?
PM sent
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Please don't send me one.
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There's far too many of them who don't actually look fit enough in that team to implement Smith's pressing style...Without mentioning the one's lacking a bit of gumption..
Taylor's a prime example of someone to me who's struggling to adapt fitness wise...like he's breathing through his arse after 20 minutes.Easy street under messrs Bruce and RDM has left us half baked in a league, which is ever demanding..witness QPR at ours,the amount of energy ignited into the task.
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Please don't send me one.
LOL I was just about to type the same thing
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Taylor has been shit and El Ghazi not much better. I'd be tempted to change them for Hutton and Albert. We need something to change and quick
Since El Ghazi played well at West Brom he's been average. Time for something different, throw Davis on, move Tammy out wide.
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No subs at half time.
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If Grealish really makes this much difference I dread to think what will happen once he is sold
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No subs at half time.
I hope they got a bollocking. And it’s better than Whelan coming on.
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No shots on target and no changes at HT. Hmmmmm
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If Grealish really makes this much difference I dread to think what will happen once he is sold
He will be in the summer. I hope the £40m helps to make us better overall
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At least the keeper looks useful
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No subs at half time.
I hope they got a bollocking. And it’s better than Whelan coming on.
Adomah might get a chance fairly quickly.
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This level of performance is unacceptable and we need to see a fucking massive improvement.
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We’re staying down. There’s no way we have enough to go up
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How come he wasn’t booked for that handball?
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Fuck off Hourihane. Pathetic
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No shots on target and no changes at HT. Hmmmmm
Hopefully DS has torn this bunch of tossers a new one & threatened some with the door if they can't do a better job in the 2nd Half.
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No spark in this team. Nobody to make others think 'Bloody hell, I love playing alongside him.'
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We’re staying down. There’s no way we have enough to go up
This league is littered with clubs who should be able to reach the Premiership but have been trapped here for years. I fear we might be the next one.
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Are there streams for this?
Trust me you don´t really want one.
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Better. Great run from SJM
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Fuck off Taylor. I seriously never want to see him in a Villa shirt ever again.
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The more I see of McGinn, I wonder WHY or HOW THE HELL we're lucky enough for him to have joined us!?
We'd have walked this league already if all 11 players had his work ethic.
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Not sure we can keep playing both Bolasie and El Ghazi. They're too unreliable.
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If Grealish really makes this much difference I dread to think what will happen once he is sold
He will be in the summer. I hope the £40m helps to make us better overall
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Indeed but it's fair to say our record of transfers is awful. We keep spending and buying yet somehow get worse!
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We’re staying down. There’s no way we have enough to go up
This league is littered with clubs who should be able to reach the Premiership but have been trapped here for years. I fear we might be the next one.
No might be about it.
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Even early on this has feeling of dismal 1-0 defeat.
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We’re staying down. There’s no way we have enough to go up
If there's much more of this shite - we'll be going down!
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Bolassie needs to come off, he’s a liability and Taylor needs protection
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Taylor needs shooting. And Bjarnason.
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Hull winning again so next game isn’t going to be easy either
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Funny how football goes. A couple of months ago El Ghazi was the saviour. Now I'd pack him off to his parent club without a second thought.
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Time for Hause on. Elphick full back , Taylor off and then Albert for ghazi to freshen up both sides
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Should be two. No improvement so far.
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Bolassie needs to come off, he’s a liability and Taylor needs protection
The only protection Taylor needs is from the roof of the stadium.
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Come on Dean it needs changing now as whatever you said is having zero effect
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Stream gone.
Thank fuck
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Wonder what Tammy's thinking.
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It’s amazing to think after Derby and Boro we were wondering if there was anyone who could beat us on our match up the table. Now I’m wondering if we will win again.
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Wonder what Tammy's thinking.
Remind why I said I´d stay
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Our decline from good, attacking football to this sub-Bruce horseshit is incredible.
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"Villa for the minute playing with 10 men."
And the fucking rest.
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Wonder what Tammy's thinking.
Remind why I said I´d stay
How about "how did I miss that chance at 0-0"
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Why do we have the ability to make average teams look like promotion material?
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Triple sub on the way - Albert, Whelan and Hause
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Three subs incoming.
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We look as bad as we have done at any point since relegation.
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Three changes on....Hause, Whelan and Adomah.
So we've got two strikers on and don't bring either on at 1 down?! Bizarre. Go 2 up or something.
Edit; All feels a bit of a mess atm.
BTW Rico Henry has taken time out from his 3 day medical here to score for Brentford against Stoke!
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So Smiths answer is Whelan
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Hause left back I hope
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I have my ST in one hand a pair of scissors in the other ready for Smith bringing Hogan on.
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Here come super Glen to save the day
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Dean obviously not happy
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1-0 down to Wigan, so lets get Whelan on, laughable!
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Our decline from good, attacking football to this sub-Bruce horseshit is incredible.
Maybe it's got to get worse before it gets better.
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Hause for Elphick
Whelan for Bjarnasson
Albert for ??
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we are a steaming pile of crap and I'm out
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Looks like Smith has had enough of Elphick already.
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Hause for Elphick
Whelan for Bjarnasson
Albert for ??
Bolasie
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Triple sub on the way - Albert, Whelan and Hause
Is there anything as depressing as Whelan coming off the bench when you’re chasing a game? Mind you BB has done his usual imitation of a professional footballer routine.
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No change in shape... like for like. But with Glenn Whelan :(
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Meet the new boss same as the old boss
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Hause for Elphick
Whelan for Bjarnasson
Albert for ??
El Ghazi
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Three subs and Taylor is still on the pitch. Smith sir, you are fucking clueless.
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Hause already lost the ball a few times so can't bet on him when in possession....
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Time for Hause on. Elphick full back , Taylor off and then Albert for ghazi to freshen up both sides
Well I guessed 2 coming on right but how on earth is Taylor still on ?
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Apart from McGinn, we're a shambles.
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Hause is a fucking mule
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Hause is going to fit right in.
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Sure he’s been unlucky with injuries but the squad he’s working with has more than enough to beat Wigan. Poor show from smith.
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Can’t get out of our half at the moment, appalling
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We are not scoring in a million years
Utter rubbish
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What in fucks name has happened to us? We’ve played Preston, QPR, Swansea and fucking Wigan and looked utter shit.
If this was Bruce he’d be getting battered. And rightly so. Villa fan or not this needs to be sorted out because Smith isn’t going to last if this carries on.
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Smith needs some of his own players around him. I see the medical for Rico Henry is still ongoing, he's just scored for Brentford!!
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Starting to see our lot get pissed of with each other too
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Every fucker has actually forgotten how to play football
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Smith needs some of his own players around him. I see the medical for Rico Henry is still ongoing, he's just scored for Brentford!!
Like Hogan?
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We haven't had a shot on target according to Beeb.
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After an intense blast around the Pyrenees this morning, I went for a nap at 2pm your time, and I've just woken up in a parallel works, like in 'Counterpart', haven't I?
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Starting to see our lot get pissed of with each other too
Fans or players?
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I'm not watching but it seems like Smith passed through the Villa Higgs boson some time in early December.
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None of the players can control the fucking ball.
Wtf is going on?
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Whelan is on?
Enough.
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We’ve gone from shooting 20 times a game to zero. That is some fucking accomplishment
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Villaitus has struck our new manager in record time
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what is going on, This is dreadful!
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I can only put it down to match fixing
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Just watched Wigan clear their lines, with a Wigan midfielder waiting to receive it just outside the box. Hourihane and Whelan were BOTH a gnat's chuff away, yet stood and watched the player take the ball down and turn with ease.
McGinn is having to do the work of the whole midfield, as the rest of em are non-existent.
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Who do we sack now?
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Smith needs some of his own players around him. I see the medical for Rico Henry is still ongoing, he's just scored for Brentford!!
Like Hogan?
Is Hogan playing? Has Hogan played for Smith in the last 2 years, other than here, as sub, because he's shit? No. Hogan is now fully embedded into the coached like a c*** school that Bruce has left behind. I do not class Hogan as one of the players one might call Smith's own. Do you?
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Starting to see our lot get pissed of with each other too
Fans or players?
Players....Tammy with Bolasie and Taylor with Anyone near he can blame
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There has been ZERO reaction from anyone to that utter humiliation from last weekend.
You have to blame the manager here he clearly has not motivated them this week to put it right.
No ones gives a toss again....with the exception of McGuin as per normal.
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I just can't see us scoring.
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We are fucking rubbish at the back, and toothless going forward that’s some effort.
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None of the players can control the fucking ball.
Wtf is going on?
Yep, and the passing game is gone too replaced by high cross field passes that are always unlikely to come off.
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Who do we sack now?
Ourselves
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4 shots, 0 on target. WTF as happened to us?
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Smith needs some of his own players around him. I see the medical for Rico Henry is still ongoing, he's just scored for Brentford!!
Like Hogan?
Is Hogan playing? Has Hogan played for Smith in the last 2 years? No. Hogan is now fully embedded into the coached like a c*** school that Bruce has left behind. I do not class Hogan as one of the players one might call Smith's own. Do you?
He played for Smith last week.
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Christ they are playing like strangers. Dean looking under pressure there
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it's really poor when you're one nil down and your answer is Whelan !
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We are rotten. 15 years down here beckons.
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I think 'new manager bounce' is over.
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I've had to turn the commentary off, can't listen.
Utterly mystifying what has happened here, it's like the first few games were all a dream........
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He should be under pressure, because early days or not we’re progressively getting worse.
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Starting to see our lot get pissed of with each other too
Fans or players?
Players....Tammy with Bolasie and Taylor with Anyone near he can blame
And now after Hause headed ball out of Kalinic hands ...no one called
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What a steaming pile of horseshit this performance has been. Every single one of them can just fuck off and never darken our doorsteps for me.
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Brilliant pass from McGinnis. Adomah just didn’t want it enough
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How long left?
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it's really poor when you're one nil down and your answer is Whelan !
Well you knew at some point he was coming on. For some reason Smith sees him as some sort of fucking answer. To something. Fuck know what.
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Smith needs some of his own players around him. I see the medical for Rico Henry is still ongoing, he's just scored for Brentford!!
Like Hogan?
Is Hogan playing? Has Hogan played for Smith in the last 2 years? No. Hogan is now fully embedded into the coached like a c*** school that Bruce has left behind. I do not class Hogan as one of the players one might call Smith's own. Do you?
He played for Smith last week.
And was shit, just like the rest of the players Bruce left behind. Fuck me, It's not difficult to understand.
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Commentator....no cohesion , lots of talent on display but so dis jointed
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How long left?
Enough time for Wigan to score again
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2-0
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Commentator....no cohesion , lots of talent on display but so dis jointed
Everything we were saying were big issues under SB. So disappointing how quickly everything has fallen off the cliff....
2-0.
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Hause playing like he thinks he is bobby Moore. Patrick Moore is more apt
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You can’t absolve responsibility totally from Smith for this. There’s more than enough talent to play a fuck load better than we are.
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Pants. Utter,utter pants
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2-0 and goodnight you wankers
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Bollocks
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Hope DS wasn’t a sentimental appointment , I don’t know enough of his previous records of cosching
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Useless c***s.
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Fuckin hell.
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I don't think we've had a single fucking shot this half.
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Hull 3-0 up so you can chalk that as another game we ain't winning.
Utterly dismal result.
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Quite simply... beyond pathetic. Big issues here.
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5 more years
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Very very poor.
Hause looks like he's never played football in his life.
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How long left?
Enough time for Wigan to score again
There you go
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smith out
in fact the whole fucking team out
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Hause looks rubbish too.
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Hause looks like a bloke who's just wandered in from the pub.
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Wigan should be embarrassed that they've only got two.
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Abysmal
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Fuck off. Fuck the fuck off.
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How many times does a team on a terrible run, end it with a win against us....too my effing times.
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Blues equalise
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Thank God we had those easy games to get back into the promotion race.
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What the fuck was Taylor doing our on the right. That was so easy
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Taylor no where to be seen near his back post
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Too many ****** in our team
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There is no logic to this football club. When will the fans get a break?
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And I hope our away support let our useless fucking team know what they think of them.
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And,of course, Blues have just equalised.
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Haha Same old villa, You useless sack of shit!!!!!
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Where the hell is this going wrong??? Midfield? Hourihane? Whelan? Adonai? I happen to think that El Ghazi is actually turd too.
Finally seem to have woken up now. Shame it’s taken being 2 goals down to get a reaction.
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We have gone from tearing promotion rivals new arse holes to this utter garbage in the space of a few weeks. Absolutely shocking.
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Hause looks like a bloke who's just wandered in from the pub.
This is the problem with signing players who haven't played since about 2010, they are way off the pace in their early games.
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Smith needs some of his own players around him. I see the medical for Rico Henry is still ongoing, he's just scored for Brentford!!
Like Hogan?
Is Hogan playing? Has Hogan played for Smith in the last 2 years? No. Hogan is now fully embedded into the coached like a c*** school that Bruce has left behind. I do not class Hogan as one of the players one might call Smith's own. Do you?
He played for Smith last week.
And was shit, just like the rest of the players Bruce left behind. Fuck me, It's not difficult to understand.
Stop blaming Bruce. These players were world beaters a few weeks ago.
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Smith needs some of his own players around him. I see the medical for Rico Henry is still ongoing, he's just scored for Brentford!!
Like Hogan?
Is Hogan playing? Has Hogan played for Smith in the last 2 years? No. Hogan is now fully embedded into the coached like a c*** school that Bruce has left behind. I do not class Hogan as one of the players one might call Smith's own. Do you?
He played for Smith last week.
And was shit, just like the rest of the players Bruce left behind. Fuck me, It's not difficult to understand.
I understand what you're saying thanks and I think you’re wrong to give smith a pass based on not having ‘his players’. Wind your fucking neck in.
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Wow. How have we fallen off so badly. Serious issues.
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Smith is not going to see the end of the season at this rate
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Hause is either rusty or just crap
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Losing two nil to this shower is as bad as losing four one to Sheffield United. Smith needs to sort this the fuck out.
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goodbye play offs
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Is Hause pissed?
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Gonna say it.
I fucking hate Hourihane
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Pen Wigan
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Has Hause ever played football before?
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I sometimes wonder if we will ever be decent agan in my lifetime. Bobbins, complete and utter bobbins.
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Who said Hause was decent on the ball? He's looked like Bambi on ice whilst off his tits on drugs
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3-0
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Whelan making up for lost time.
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0-3. Against fucking Wigan
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This needs to stop now.
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Penalty. Whelan gave the ball away and hacked down their player.
If DS had been here longer this would seem like a sackable game tbh, feels like RDM at Preston.
Infact DS has been here longer than Robbie....
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Thank you Glenn fucking Whelan. Now they´ve got a pen
And it's 3-0
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whelan doing a great job
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Fucking Whealan, fuck off you utterly useless wanker.
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Apart from John McGinn, those players are a fucking woeful.
Half arsed, pathetic and fucking disgraceful. The days of Lescott, Bacuna and co clearly haven't left us when it comes to caring about the team you play for.
Wigan, no wins in 8, have absolutely battered us.
Time to trust some U23s and drop out some of this shite prima donnas.
#AVFC
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Embarrassing
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Whelans should fault but Hause caused the initial problem
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That was never a penalty but I’m passed caring
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Enough is enough.
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Wow. I was looking forward to Thursday's do with Dean Smith. Not now.
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Remi Garde was sacked for far less than this.
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I can see Tammy saying fuck this I'm off after this dreadful display.
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3-0. This should not have happened at all.
So much for a breath of fresh air. This stinks like a public shithouse
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Smith is not going to see the end of the season at this rate
You could well be right.
Oh, and it's 3 fucking nil now. Pathetic.
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Smith needs some of his own players around him. I see the medical for Rico Henry is still ongoing, he's just scored for Brentford!!
Like Hogan?
Is Hogan playing? Has Hogan played for Smith in the last 2 years? No. Hogan is now fully embedded into the coached like a c*** school that Bruce has left behind. I do not class Hogan as one of the players one might call Smith's own. Do you?
He played for Smith last week.
And was shit, just like the rest of the players Bruce left behind. Fuck me, It's not difficult to understand.
I understand what you're saying thanks and I think you’re wrong to give smith a pass based on not having ‘his players’. Wind your fucking neck in.
I'm not giving Smith a pass. We've been fucking awful recently and he needs to shake the squad up. He's got no choice other than to play Bruce's stalwarts. Hogan being one of them. 3-0 down now thanks to another Bruce legend. We can't keep sacking Managers but Smith needs to shape up, and quickly.
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embarrassing !
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This is now in Lambert territory
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I thought we were going to cruise into the play offs after Boro away, possibly even trouble the top two. I did not see this coming at all. We had a clear style of play, we had a plan. Now the players look like they just met again. Nothing makes sense. This is the worst performance we've put in since we got relegated.
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Wow. I was looking forward to Thursday's do with Dean Smith. Not now.
Is this a fans forum? Going to be some tough questions towards him, especially use of certain players.
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Fcuk me, we are a one man team after all.
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Can't wait for the easy games to start.
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This is worse than last week. Progressively dropping off. Next week will just be a horror show
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what a pile of pooh
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Wow this is even worse than under Bruce..
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Dropped to 12th in table currently. How many points do we need realistically to stay up?
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Gonna say it.
I fucking hate Hourihane
I fucking hate a number of our players and have done for years.
Inept performances again and again. No energy.
And crap manager after crap manager after crap manager.
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we still haven't had a shot on target!
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Remi Garde was sacked for far less than this.
Was he fuck. He'd lost 6 in a row and managed 2 wins in 20.
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Dismal. Just dismal.
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The shift from clogging it about and being defensive to becoming an attacking and fluent side is a obviously somewhat harder than we'd hoped.
I think whilst they are trying to adapt they are struggling. There has to be some hope.
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I miss Bruce.
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How many points do we need to stay up ?
Keep DS and experiment something totally different for rest of season ?
Commentary said not seen a villa disgrace and fans let down for ages!
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The pertinent point is we are getting worse, that does not bode well for the manager.
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So in conclusion, our new attaching football under master tactician Smith was actually just down to the form of one player. Well at least we know now.
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Blues equalise
Thankfully Boro score again
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I miss Bruce.
LOL if I don’t cry. He’s laughing his bollocks off now.
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In what division?
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my concern with Smith was that the job would eat him up. It is.
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Smith out etc.
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What will piss me off is all the know-it-alls coming out with how we were lucky to have Bruce and deserve this. I can't wait for Villa to be shit again. Would be better than this.
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Is that Hause playing in Wellington boots?
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This is perhaps the worst villa performance i have ever seen, so woeful...
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When you see impact Bielsa has had at Leeds it makes you weep for the lack of bravery and nous in our boardroom
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Smith is starting to look massively out of his depth. Maybe he will show them videos of Leeds this week instead of Man City. Aspire to be them first.
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I'll take a draw.
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Has the belief ever drained from a team so fast before. That’s down to lack of leadership. Surely the dressing room can’t be lost already?
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We're into stoppage time and we have not had a single attempt on goal this half.
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How is Conor doing?
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Looks like no goals for us today. That hasn't happened much. Ominous.
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Unacceptable.
Another season in this shot division beckons.
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Smith is starting to look massively out of his depth. Maybe he will show them videos of Leeds this week instead of Man City. Aspire to be them first.
Perhaps show them videos of the Keystone Cops. Far more accurate a viewing.
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my concern with Smith was that the job would eat him up. It is.
It certainly seems that way. It sounds like a number of the players he inherited don't fancy playing for him 'n' all...
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thank fuck Hause is only a loan
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How is Conor doing?
Same old. Utter shite. Lots of pointing and shuffling around, and doing nothing of any substance.
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I miss Nyland.
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When you see impact Bielsa has had at Leeds it makes you weep for the lack of bravery and nous in our boardroom
Very good world wide businessmen and global contacts etc but what do they know about championship .... indeed what does purslow or foreign director of football know about it too ?
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Easy to say now and it gives me zero satisfaction, but I was always underwhelmed by Smith’s appointment. Just another bang average manager as far as I can see.
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How is Conor doing?
Same old. Utter shite. Lots of pointing and shuffling around, and doing nothing of any substance.
Being the useless ****** that he is
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my concern with Smith was that the job would eat him up. It is.
It certainly seems that way. It sounds like a number of the players he inherited don't fancy playing for him 'n' all...
We are in a bad run. Nothing more. This seems a bit over dramatic.
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Unacceptable.
Another season in this shot division beckons.
It's not the division that's shite, it's us.
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Going from playing so well to playing so bad in such a short time must be some kind of record...
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We’re 12 days into 2019 and we’ve already conceded 8 goals!
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We look completely out on our feet compared to them
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Easy to say now and it gives me zero satisfaction, but I was always underwhelmed by Smith’s appointment. Just another bang average manager as far as I can see.
Just looks out of his depth and powerless to stop the slide. Bet he misses Brentford. The Hogan/Hourihane of managerial appointments?
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When you see impact Bielsa has had at Leeds it makes you weep for the lack of bravery and nous in our boardroom
Very good world wide businessmen and global contacts etc but what do they know about championship .... indeed what does purslow or foreign director of football know about it too ?
What did Bielsa know about it? I find the argument that the Championship is like a different sport just ridiculous. You just need to do your job well, Dean, his coaching staff and the players aren’t at the moment.
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For the Hull game, I'd play McGinn and Tammy (if he's still here), and draft in the u23s around them. None of these cnuts deserve to keep the shirt on that showing.
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Kalinic mistake and blaming defenders now
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How is Conor doing?
Same old. Utter shite. Lots of pointing and shuffling around, and doing nothing of any substance.
Being the useless c*** that he is
And Smith hasn’t worked this out.
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my concern with Smith was that the job would eat him up. It is.
It certainly seems that way. It sounds like a number of the players he inherited don't fancy playing for him 'n' all...
We are in a bad run. Nothing more. This seems a bit over dramatic.
Maybe so, but how do you explain the performances since the WBA game? There's something badly wrong at the club: and the players need to take their share of the blame. This is completely unacceptable.
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crap
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Dave P - I'm not being over dramatic. We are useless. Anyone can pick up draws in any division. We don't have a winning mentality and I'm not sure Smith is going to instill that here, with or without a few recruits.
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Yet again, we help to revitalise a side that was on it's arse.
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Jesus. Another brainless player in Hasue - how many times did he play to the keeper's right leg, clearly not wanting it there? Over and over
Taylor ball control like pinball machine - 2-3 bounces every fucking time
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We are a mid table championship team, simple
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Kalinic mistake and blaming defenders now
He is left footed, and isn't good with his right, so stop fucking playing it there Hause, he already signalled it to him several times
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When you see impact Bielsa has had at Leeds it makes you weep for the lack of bravery and nous in our boardroom
Very good world wide businessmen and global contacts etc but what do they know about championship .... indeed what does purslow or foreign director of football know about it too ?
Probably the same as the 'foreign director of football' at Leeds.
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I had to watch the game in amongst the Wigan fans. They were taking the piss out of us and you could'nt blame them .Apart from Kalinic and McGinn the players were awful .Watching Taylor ,Hause ,Hourihane and Whelan being humiliated in the last ten minutes will always stay in my mind .They looked totally clueless and i think we were lucky it was only three in the end
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Our centre backs in action
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Our centre backs in action
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They weren't that good :-(