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Title: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 19, 2018, 08:33:06 PM
Seemingly on the verge of signing. We need a GK badly along with other defenders but hopefully this is a start.

Inevitably biased YouTube video included. Aside from being massive encouraging he catches the ball on occasion. That's a forward step.

Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: TheMalandro on December 19, 2018, 08:41:47 PM
Stevie Wonder, Isn’t he Lovre?

Maybe not.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: SheffieldVillain on December 19, 2018, 08:47:55 PM
Is he the one we wanted to sign when Garde was here (maybe not Garde, I can't be sure) but was refused a work permit for dodgy reasons?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Risso on December 19, 2018, 08:58:49 PM
Is he the one we wanted to sign when Garde was here (maybe not Garde, I can't be sure) but was refused a work permit for dodgy reasons?

Yes. Blocked by that nonce-defending director at Sunderland.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 19, 2018, 09:08:34 PM
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: wozwebs on December 19, 2018, 09:12:08 PM
From the YouTube clip I just watched seems to like to palm it away a lot. Played in one World Cup game for Croatia but is now their first choice apparently. Got to be better than Nyland anyway.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: VinnieChase84 on December 19, 2018, 09:15:26 PM

He never has a sniff with any of those
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Damo70 on December 19, 2018, 09:23:45 PM
I think Nyland has improved since the start of the season. It has been a number of games now since I last 'soiled my pants' whilst watching him keep goal.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: CpF on December 19, 2018, 09:31:23 PM
One thing about Nyland is his distribution is really pretty good. I'd say the best of any Villa keeper since maybe Friedel or before. He still might turn into a good keeper in a couple of years, once he develops a bit of manly authority about him. For now his confidence is probably shot, and he needs replacing, but a loan out or a time on the bench is maybe the way to go with him.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: curiousorange on December 19, 2018, 09:38:10 PM
I presume we're going for the 'he's going to be our first choice for years or until somebody pays stupid money for him' approach, because even only on loan I'd much rather bring Heaton in.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 19, 2018, 10:04:43 PM
Thought this thread had been bumped up from three years ago for a second!

Which media is reporting this? Guess someone from our scout team was clearing a drawer and found his name.

He's done alright in Belgium I think.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 19, 2018, 10:06:25 PM
Did he play in either game v England recently as their first choice retired after world cup.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: ExclDawg on December 19, 2018, 10:11:42 PM
Which media is reporting this? Guess someone from our scout team was clearing a drawer and found his name.

Just saw it today: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/11586164/aston-villa-interested-in-lovre-kalinic
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 19, 2018, 10:33:40 PM
I hope this signing isn't just a cynical ploy to cash in on the post-Brexit narrowing of horizons, particularly in regard to mass cultural participation. Hate Music, Lovrecism.

I must apologise.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Dave P on December 19, 2018, 10:45:49 PM
Did he play in either game v England recently as their first choice retired after world cup.

He played at Wembley but not the away game.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: SheffieldVillain on December 19, 2018, 11:05:49 PM
One thing about Nyland is his distribution is really pretty good. I'd say the best of any Villa keeper since maybe Friedel or before. He still might turn into a good keeper in a couple of years, once he develops a bit of manly authority about him. For now his confidence is probably shot, and he needs replacing, but a loan out or a time on the bench is maybe the way to go with him.

He's 28 and a half years old, not a kid. He doesn't have a couple of years to develop into a good keeper. If he's not good enough now, get rid. I do agree about his distribution though.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Legion on December 19, 2018, 11:33:58 PM
I would Love Nyland to be on the bench and replaced by someone decent.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: adrenachrome on December 20, 2018, 01:58:08 AM
ToryGraph (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/19/aston-villa-close-signing-croatia-goalkeeper-lovre-kalinic-7m/)

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Aston Villa close to signing Croatia goalkeeper Lovre Kalinic for £7m

John Percy
19 December 2018 • 8:12pm


Aston Villa are close to signing Ghent goalkeeper Lovre Kalinic for £7 million in an ambitious move by head coach Dean Smith.

Kalinic is expected to have a medical at Villa's training ground on Thursday with the two clubs in advanced talks over a permanent deal.

A Croatia international, Kalinic almost joined Villa nearly three years ago when Remi Garde was in charge but he is poised to finally complete a move to the Championship club in the next few days.

Villa have targeted a new No 1 amid doubts over summer signing Orjan Nyland and believe Kalinic, 28, will provide the experience required in Smith's bid for promotion. It is understood Ghent are seeking between €5-10 million.

Kalinic flew into Birmingham on Wednesday and should complete the formalities of his move before this weekend's game against Leeds. He will not be eligible to play until the January transfer window opens, however.

Smith is also targeting a centre-half and a left-back next month after guiding Villa towards the play-off places.

Tammy Abraham's future remains uncertain with Chelsea considering whether to sell the England international. Villa are relaxed about the situation and could still have Abraham on loan for the remainder of the season if they remain in contention for promotion.

Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: mr underhill on December 20, 2018, 07:08:52 AM
surely if this happens one or two of our   keepers have to leave?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: PeterWithe on December 20, 2018, 07:14:07 AM
We certainly need at least one new keeper but I think I’d prefer a player who has already played in England.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Exeter 77 on December 20, 2018, 07:45:53 AM
surely if this happens one or two of our   keepers have to leave?
I would guess Moreira's loan would end.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2018, 09:28:09 AM
The most pointless loan of all time and proof, if it were needed, that Bruce is a fucking idiot. Any six year old with access to Football Manager could have told him how many loan players you could name in a squad, FFS.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: dicedlam on December 20, 2018, 09:30:31 AM
ToryGraph (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/19/aston-villa-close-signing-croatia-goalkeeper-lovre-kalinic-7m/)

Quote
Aston Villa close to signing Croatia goalkeeper Lovre Kalinic for £7m

John Percy
19 December 2018 • 8:12pm


Aston Villa are close to signing Ghent goalkeeper Lovre Kalinic for £7 million in an ambitious move by head coach Dean Smith.

Kalinic is expected to have a medical at Villa's training ground on Thursday with the two clubs in advanced talks over a permanent deal.

A Croatia international, Kalinic almost joined Villa nearly three years ago when Remi Garde was in charge but he is poised to finally complete a move to the Championship club in the next few days.

Villa have targeted a new No 1 amid doubts over summer signing Orjan Nyland and believe Kalinic, 28, will provide the experience required in Smith's bid for promotion. It is understood Ghent are seeking between €5-10 million.

Kalinic flew into Birmingham on Wednesday and should complete the formalities of his move before this weekend's game against Leeds. He will not be eligible to play until the January transfer window opens, however.

Smith is also targeting a centre-half and a left-back next month after guiding Villa towards the play-off places.

Tammy Abraham's future remains uncertain with Chelsea considering whether to sell the England international. Villa are relaxed about the situation and could still have Abraham on loan for the remainder of the season if they remain in contention for promotion.


Lovre Jubbly.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2018, 09:31:46 AM
This keeper sounds good to me. Get it done, please Villa.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: andyh on December 20, 2018, 09:36:19 AM
The most pointless loan of all time and proof, if it were needed, that Bruce is a fucking idiot. Any six year old with access to Football Manager could have told him how many loan players you could name in a squad, FFS.
Not wanting to defend Bruce in anyway, but I suspect he had no involvement in the the loan of that goalie.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: darren woolley on December 20, 2018, 09:52:46 AM
I would be happy with this signing it's an area we badly need to get right.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 20, 2018, 10:03:16 AM
Seems like a very smart move, will add quality and help the whole defence look more solid.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: chrisw1 on December 20, 2018, 10:18:30 AM
Anyone know what his distribution is like?

Hopefully he will be fantastic, but Heaton sounded like the sensible option to me?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Risso on December 20, 2018, 10:22:26 AM
Anyone know what his distribution is like?

Hopefully he will be fantastic, but Heaton sounded like the sensible option to me?

Are we allowed to loan any more players? 

Even if we are, buying our own now seems more sensible to me.  Otherwise we end up with the position Bruce left us in where we have to replace half a team again in the summer.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Clark W Griswold on December 20, 2018, 10:22:48 AM
Presumably if the deal gets done today it will be an official unveiling/ availability to play from the start of Jan? Good that we're not pissing about and we're getting the deals done beforehand if so.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: chrisw1 on December 20, 2018, 10:30:52 AM
Anyone know what his distribution is like?

Hopefully he will be fantastic, but Heaton sounded like the sensible option to me?

Are we allowed to loan any more players? 

Even if we are, buying our own now seems more sensible to me.  Otherwise we end up with the position Bruce left us in where we have to replace half a team again in the summer.
Well I presumed Burnley would be happy to sell and he would be pretty keen to get game time.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 20, 2018, 11:18:35 AM
£7m on a keeper? A good sign of spending intent.

I bet that kind of shit really annoys Small Heath. Bonus.

EDIT: It does:  https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2603577,page=1
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 20, 2018, 11:41:12 AM
£7m on a keeper? A good sign of spending intent.

I bet that kind of shit really annoys Small Heath. Bonus.

EDIT: It does:  https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2603577,page=1

Please, don't encourage them.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Villafirst on December 20, 2018, 11:47:35 AM
£7m on a keeper? A good sign of spending intent.

I bet that kind of shit really annoys Small Heath. Bonus.

EDIT: It does:  https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2603577,page=1

Lovely to read all the bitter and twisted comments on their crappy forum!
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: sid1964 on December 20, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
They must have found the scouting report for this Goal Keeper at the back of filing cabinet!
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 20, 2018, 12:59:06 PM
£7m on a keeper? A good sign of spending intent.

I bet that kind of shit really annoys Small Heath. Bonus.

EDIT: It does:  https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2603577,page=1

They have a lot of lawyers posting in that thread.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Richard E on December 20, 2018, 01:02:29 PM
£7m on a keeper? A good sign of spending intent.

I bet that kind of sh1t really annoys Small Heath. Bonus.

EDIT: It does:  https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2603577,page=1

They have a lot of lawyers posting in that thread.

Any lawyer who supported Small Heath would have been struck off long before now.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 20, 2018, 01:09:51 PM
£7m on a keeper? A good sign of spending intent.

I bet that kind of shit really annoys Small Heath. Bonus.

EDIT: It does:  https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2603577,page=1

Quote
That slimy bastard Purslow invented FFP. He probably knows every trick in the book.

Probably why he's there.

Hahahahaha
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: adrenachrome on December 20, 2018, 01:16:14 PM
£7m on a keeper? A good sign of spending intent.

I bet that kind of shit really annoys Small Heath. Bonus.

EDIT: It does:  https://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,2603577,page=1

They have a lot of lawyers posting in that thread.

It is a spawning ground for vexatious litigants. Very bad!

Drain the swamp. Build a wall. 

All #H&V posters should send £66 to fund my Boarder Wall.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Iamkmkm on December 20, 2018, 01:22:01 PM
According to his wiki he has already signed

Aston Villa
On 1 January 2019, Kalinic signed for Aston Villa citing his hatred for Birmingham City as a reason for penning a 10 year deal. He was quoted as saying "I hate Blues, they are skint thieves from Bordesley Green." He became an instant Villa hero.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: berneboy on December 20, 2018, 01:33:19 PM
According to his wiki he has already signed

Aston Villa
On 1 January 2019, Kalinic signed for Aston Villa citing his hatred for Birmingham City as a reason for penning a 10 year deal. He was quoted as saying "I hate Blues, they are skint thieves from Bordesley Green." He became an instant Villa hero.
Well, there's a thing. Truth will out.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: VinnieChase84 on December 20, 2018, 03:06:28 PM
Telegraph reporter John Percy has tweeted saying this is now complete
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: andyh on December 20, 2018, 03:10:34 PM
€6m.
Would have been better value if not for fucking Brexit !

Welcome Lovre. Looking forward to seeing you against QPR.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: ozzjim on December 20, 2018, 03:57:53 PM
I like a big keeper. Hopefully he will be more reliable than Nyland, who I have to say makes be shit myself every time a shot comes in. If he was half decent we would have about 8 more points at least right now and be right in the automatic mix. If this fella can come in and shore it up, we will see the benefits.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: achilles on December 20, 2018, 04:41:57 PM
Would have preferred Heaton or any goalkeeper who has experience of playing in the English leagues.

A bit risky to me, still I trust Smith.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: West Derby Villan on December 20, 2018, 04:47:17 PM
Would have preferred Heaton or any goalkeeper who has experience of playing in the English leagues.

A bit risky to me, still I trust Smith.

Agree and Agree
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2018, 04:50:08 PM
McGinn hasn't done too bad. Stick your English leagues experience. You're not gonna get a goalkeeper of his quality for that money over here, and you're not gonna get the first choice goalkeeper for a team that just played in a World Cup Final for any money unless we can find £100 million to tempt Spurs to part with Lloris.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: XXVilla on December 20, 2018, 04:51:29 PM
6’7”. A big fucker even for a keeper
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2018, 04:54:22 PM
Is Pires our only previous World Cup finalist? I checked and Kalinic played against Iceland in the Group Stage so he definitely counts.

Fully expect McGinn to become our third World Cup finalist in 2022, and our second winner.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 20, 2018, 05:18:28 PM
Would have preferred Heaton or any goalkeeper who has experience of playing in the English leagues.

A bit risky to me, still I trust Smith.

The top keepers in the world aren’t English. And we’ve had plenty of reallly good non English keepers in our history. Just because the current batch aren’t good enough doesn’t mean all foreign keepers are poor. And I’ve seen enough of Joe Hart fuck things up and Pickford in the Merseyside derby drop a bollock to know there’s no guarantees at all with any keeper you get irrespective of nationality.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: KevinGage on December 20, 2018, 05:21:19 PM
I wanted Heaton as well.

But unless there was an option there for a permanent deal, such a move effectively only parks the issue for a few months.

We've probably done too much of that in recent seasons.  Loanees do sometimes develop an affinity for the club (as per Snodgrass last year) but more often than not they know they're not hanging around and act accordingly.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: VinnieChase84 on December 20, 2018, 05:57:36 PM
Think we’ve simply decided to not wait on Burnley to make up their minds about TH. last reports suggested they had not decided whether to let him go or not until they see how well Pope has recovered
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Villafirst on December 20, 2018, 05:59:45 PM
Strange no official confirmation from Villa. I hope this doesn't turn into another Joe Bryan situation......?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Richard E on December 20, 2018, 06:34:40 PM
Is Pires our only previous World Cup finalist? I checked and Kalinic played against Iceland in the Group Stage so he definitely counts.

Fully expect McGinn to become our third World Cup finalist in 2022, and our second winner.

Is his granddad Brazilian then?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Legion on December 20, 2018, 06:47:55 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48375852_2570161183011424_8822163254651387904_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=ea19466b08ff29b67755587cce292819&oe=5CD82944)
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Ads on December 20, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
You'll do for me.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 20, 2018, 07:07:43 PM
Gent? Gent?
We bought some big lumbering idiot from Genk who we'd never heard of a few years back and look what happened there.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Steve67 on December 20, 2018, 09:03:04 PM
Gent? Gent?
We bought some big lumbering idiot from Genk who we'd never heard of a few years back and look what happened there.

Same price too apparently.  He wasn't too shabby from what I recall.  We are acting quickly and will steamroller the division in the second half of the season.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 20, 2018, 09:35:41 PM
I like a big keeper. Hopefully he will be more reliable than Nyland, who I have to say makes be shit myself every time a shot comes in. If he was half decent we would have about 8 more points at least right now and be right in the automatic mix. If this fella can come in and shore it up, we will see the benefits.

In fairness to Nyland, you can lay some blame on him but more often than not the defence has been dreadful.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: manic-road on December 20, 2018, 09:49:25 PM
I would have loved Heaton here, but if Kalinic signs I hope he's an upgrade on Nyland.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 20, 2018, 09:57:53 PM
I'd rather have a long-term solution in goal than yet another loan signing. If we can get a player who is first choice at a team above Portugal, Spain, Argentina and Germany in the World Rankings why ever would you not want to do that?

All you need is Lovre.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: four fornicholl on December 20, 2018, 10:01:31 PM
Villa I reckon? See what I've done there? ;)
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: footyskillz on December 20, 2018, 11:58:12 PM
Would have preferred Heaton or any goalkeeper who has experience of playing in the English leagues.

A bit risky to me, still I trust Smith.

Agree and Agree

Yes 101 on this several prem gk who would be decent at this level, already in English football, who have no or few minutes and aperances .
I think these would be lovely and been going to waste.

Heaton
Adrian West ham
Boruc Bournemouth
Mignolet Liverpool
Smithies Cardiff (qpr last season)
Darlow Newcastle
Forrester Southampton
Gomes Watford
Ruddy Wolves

Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: KevinGage on December 21, 2018, 12:06:28 AM
They are all lovely.

Particularly the Ruddy bald bloke.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 21, 2018, 12:18:04 AM
Think we’ve simply decided to not wait on Burnley to make up their minds about TH. last reports suggested they had not decided whether to let him go or not until they see how well Pope has recovered

Rumour is Heaton is going to Leeds as they're short of keepers themselves.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: ozzjim on December 21, 2018, 01:51:36 AM
Leeds have some child in goal don't they?

Geographically I guess it is a bit less of an upheaval for him. The other thing is at his age and having had a long time out with serious injury, you don't know if he is the same keeper. To be left out completely by the manager who once had ultimate faith in you behind a former Charlton reserve (I know Pope did well but that is what he is) and a very, very dodgy Hart poses some questions about where Heaton is at in training.

And as for the defence being awful in front of Nyland argument, yes, shocking at times I agree, but I can think of 7-8 goals off the top of my head that a competent keeper doesn't concede this season. He has been woeful most of the time with the odd splutter of a spectacular save.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: darren woolley on December 21, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
In Dean Smith we trust seems a good buy to me.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: oldtimernow on December 21, 2018, 09:13:16 AM
Does Ruddy Wolves bring the same opprobrium as Stupid Woman?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: ktvillan on December 21, 2018, 09:28:16 AM
Doesn't look like he would command his area like a morris dancer so a welcome move from me.  Better to secure a perm move than a loan surely.  I do wonder how Brexit will affect work permits etc. in the long run though.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 21, 2018, 09:53:50 AM
Won't make much difference in his case as Croatians still needed work permits anyway. I would imagine any players already here will be exempt from further restrictions but who knows.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: jwarry on December 21, 2018, 12:06:08 PM
Confirmed
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 21, 2018, 12:07:01 PM
He'll do.

Welcome Lovre.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: manic-road on December 21, 2018, 12:09:50 PM
Good to see Deano sign a player for a position that was a definite area to strengthen
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Smoke on December 21, 2018, 12:11:57 PM
when was the last time we signed/announced a player before the transfer window opened?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: SaddVillan on December 21, 2018, 12:12:12 PM
Impressive work by all concerned - DoF,  Deano and the Board to get this signing done and dusted before the window opens.

It gives me confidence that:
a) he club has identified suitable reinforcements for the other positions that need strengthening and
b) they'll get the deals done

Another step on the road to becoming a properly organised and run club.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 21, 2018, 12:18:42 PM
when was the last time we signed/announced a player before the transfer window opened?

Brett Holman?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 21, 2018, 12:19:41 PM
Lovre we have got a goalie

Nyland No2 will do ...   he has cost us a few points this season .. decent keeper now and another good LB and stop leaking silly goals Villa will march up this league..

Lovre it ...
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 21, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2018/12/21/kalinic-to-join-aston-villa

Quote
Aston Villa can confirm that Croatian international goalkeeper Lovre Kalinic has agreed to join the club.

The 28-year-old will officially join Villa from Gent on 1st January when the transfer window opens, signing until 2023.

A member of the Croatian squad that finished runners-up at the 2018 FIFA World Cup, Kalinic has spent the majority of his career in his homeland with Hajduk Split but for the past two seasons has played in the Belgian top flight.

Head Coach Dean Smith said: “We are delighted to be signing someone of Lovre’s experience and quality.

"He is an outstanding goalkeeper and we are looking forward to welcoming him when he joins at the beginning of January.”


Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Villafirst on December 21, 2018, 12:32:14 PM
Goalkeeper sorted. I hope JT is now on the phone to Chelsea to secure Cahill's signature!
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: The Charmer on December 21, 2018, 12:42:19 PM

Leeds have some child in goal don't they?

It always sounds to me like Leeds have got a firm of Solicitors playing in goal.




 
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: UK Redsox on December 21, 2018, 12:44:59 PM
Goalkeeper sorted. I hope JT is now on the phone to Chelsea to secure Cahill's signature!

Despite the potential influence of Terry, there's bound to be some Premier League teams interested in Cahill.

It might be different if Villa were pushing for automatic promotion but that's unlikely to be the case.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 21, 2018, 12:57:54 PM
Excellent, good to see doing business early.

I find the FFP stuff interesting, we must be comfortable with our position.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: exigo on December 21, 2018, 01:40:56 PM
Excellent, good to see doing business early.

I find the FFP stuff interesting, we must be comfortable with our position.

Hearing Purslow talk about, I think we're playing it as 'new owners means the slate is wiped clean'. In which case, probably an idea to take down the Chinese flag on top of the Witton Lane stand before the new year.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 21, 2018, 02:12:48 PM
I'm sure someone said on here that new owners DON'T mean that the slate is wiped clean? Anyway, this sounds like an exciting story. Be ace, please, Lovre.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic
Post by: Drummond on December 21, 2018, 02:28:16 PM
Goalkeeper sorted. I hope JT is now on the phone to Chelsea to secure Cahill's signature!

Despite the potential influence of Terry, there's bound to be some Premier League teams interested in Cahill.

It might be different if Villa were pushing for automatic promotion but that's unlikely to be the case.

6 month loan wouldn't be bad though. He'd get game time, with the option to sign for us if promoted/felt he was good enough. He knows he'd almost certainly play for us too.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: VinnieChase84 on December 21, 2018, 02:29:48 PM
Cahill out of contract in the summer also
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Villafirst on December 21, 2018, 02:32:21 PM
Goalkeeper sorted. I hope JT is now on the phone to Chelsea to secure Cahill's signature!

Despite the potential influence of Terry, there's bound to be some Premier League teams interested in Cahill.

It might be different if Villa were pushing for automatic promotion but that's unlikely to be the case.

I think if we sign Cahill top two would be realistic !
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 21, 2018, 02:34:05 PM
Get him in. Make him captain, buy a new LB.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 21, 2018, 02:35:43 PM
All you need is Lovre.

Thanks for the earworm.

Delighted with the signing, every serious team needs a top quality goalkeeper.
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Post by: Clampy on December 21, 2018, 02:44:41 PM
Don't know much about him but welcome. Let's hope he makes a difference.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 21, 2018, 04:25:35 PM
Apparently he is really laid back and is a big Phil Collins fan ......... that's right, he's an Easy Lovre
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Post by: Des Little on December 21, 2018, 04:46:50 PM
Apparently he is really laid back and is a big Phil Collins fan ......... that's right, he's an Easy Lovre

Bit early for the Christmas crackers VCTM
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Post by: Risso on December 21, 2018, 04:51:11 PM
Apparently he is really laid back and is a big Phil Collins fan ......... that's right, he's an Easy Lovre

Winner!
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Post by: Toronto Villa on December 21, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
I’m hoping given our recent goalkeeping challenges from high balls and crosses we’re all happily singing “Lovre’s in the air”
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Post by: dave shelley on December 21, 2018, 06:47:23 PM
Welcome, please be good.
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Post by: Border villan on December 21, 2018, 06:57:11 PM
He might be a window to our future.
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Post by: FrankyH on December 21, 2018, 07:12:29 PM
I’m hoping given our recent goalkeeping challenges from high balls and crosses we’re all happily singing “Lovre’s in the air”

Love it.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 21, 2018, 07:39:49 PM
The club had to decide which Croatian to buy  - the under 21 keeper with the same first name was also considered - we were torn between two Lovres
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Post by: ktvillan on December 21, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
Won't make much difference in his case as Croatians still needed work permits anyway. I would imagine any players already here will be exempt from further restrictions but who knows.

Croatia have been in the EU since 2013 or 2014 so no work permit needed until Brexit possibly
.
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Post by: Steve67 on December 21, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
Well done Villa.  No fannying about.  One position sorted before the window even opens. I Lovre it.
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Post by: LeeB on December 22, 2018, 12:40:32 PM
I might try and get down to Bodymoor Heath to watch the Lovre train, the Lovre train.
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Post by: Iamkmkm on December 22, 2018, 01:08:42 PM
I thought that the transfer window opened in january?

How can we sign him already?
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Post by: cdbearsfan on December 22, 2018, 01:12:32 PM
Won't make much difference in his case as Croatians still needed work permits anyway. I would imagine any players already here will be exempt from further restrictions but who knows.

Croatia have been in the EU since 2013 or 2014 so no work permit needed until Brexit possibly
.

Not true. Unlike the rest of the EU, Croatians require work permits as Britain decided to deny them free movement. Hence why we didn't sign him in 2016.

Edit: this is no longer true. As of June this year Croatians are treated the same as the rest of the EU, so no work permit required.
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Post by: paul_e on December 22, 2018, 01:35:41 PM
I thought that the transfer window opened in january?

How can we sign him already?

We can sign him any time, just can't transfer the registration until the window.
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Post by: The Moose on December 22, 2018, 06:06:51 PM
So he could play v QPR?
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Post by: Toronto Villa on December 22, 2018, 06:38:10 PM
So he could play v QPR?

No. Swansea
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Post by: paul_e on December 22, 2018, 09:51:58 PM
So he could play v QPR?

No. Swansea

Yeah, registration has to be completed by a set time for each round of fixtures, so friday lunchtime for all weekend games, for example. I can't remember the exact time though.
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Post by: Dave P on December 23, 2018, 05:47:36 AM
I’m hoping given our recent goalkeeping challenges from high balls and crosses we’re all happily singing “Lovre’s in the air”

Lovre it.

Fixed it for you
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Post by: Bad English on December 23, 2018, 06:07:54 AM
Love Clinic at Villa Park.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on December 23, 2018, 12:03:56 PM
Can he train with us before he officially signs?
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Post by: dave shelley on December 23, 2018, 12:45:02 PM
Can he train with us before he officially signs?

I'd say he can, I don't know of any reason why not. 
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Post by: ChicagoLion on December 23, 2018, 04:09:03 PM
We need him ASAP.
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Post by: darren woolley on December 24, 2018, 09:48:35 AM
Welcome Lovre to Aston Villa we really need him.
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Post by: Ads on December 24, 2018, 11:35:38 AM
We're all out of Lovre, we look so lost without him.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 24, 2018, 12:24:41 PM
At 6'7" I can only say, "What whole lot of Lovre"
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Post by: Border villan on December 24, 2018, 08:24:02 PM
Will we go from New Street to Witton on the Lovre train.
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Post by: LeeB on December 24, 2018, 08:41:06 PM
Will we go from New Street to Witton on the Lovre train.

Yellow card, see previous page. Bang ootay order.
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Post by: Border villan on December 24, 2018, 09:02:43 PM
Will we go from New Street to Witton on the Lovre train.

Yellow card, see previous page. Bang ootay order.
l
Referee! I was nowhere near the previous quote.
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Post by: LeeB on December 24, 2018, 09:31:42 PM
Will we go from New Street to Witton on the Lovre train.

Yellow card, see previous page. Bang ootay order.
l
Referee! I was nowhere near the previous quote.

It was a reckless post that endagered the ego of your opponent
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Post by: Border villan on December 24, 2018, 09:52:32 PM
Will we go from New Street to Witton on the Lovre train.

Yellow card, see previous page. Bang ootay order.
l
Referee! I was nowhere near the previous quote.

It was a reckless post that endagered the ego of your opponent

We all know the standard of refs in the Championship leaves much to be desired!
Merry Christmas.
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Post by: LeeB on December 24, 2018, 10:16:43 PM
And you sir.
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Post by: Risso on December 25, 2018, 08:56:57 AM
We're all out of Lovre, we look so lost without him.

“Oooh, what are you thinking of?”

A clean sheet.
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Post by: andyh on December 28, 2018, 02:06:11 PM
Available for the QPR game according to Percy
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Post by: LeeB on December 28, 2018, 03:13:29 PM
He's a big unit, but I worry about his reactions in a crowded box, because apparently Lovre can't turn around.
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Post by: Mister E on December 28, 2018, 03:59:49 PM
Apparently, there's been some emotional reaction to his leaving Gent, because 'Lovre don't live here any more'.
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Post by: Border villan on December 28, 2018, 04:15:43 PM
He is looking for a house near Brum but until then is content to stay in a Lovre shack.
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Post by: Risso on December 28, 2018, 04:18:31 PM
The Burnley keeper Joe has written to him saying what a great club we are.

Lovre letters straight from the Hart.
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Post by: Border villan on December 28, 2018, 04:22:12 PM
When he goes on holiday he stays in a .................


Wait for it ...............



Caravan of Lovre
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Post by: SashasGrandad on December 28, 2018, 04:24:01 PM
He might be a bit slower than Nyland getting rid of the ball.

After all - "you can't hurry Lovre" - you just have to wait.
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Post by: four fornicholl on December 28, 2018, 04:39:13 PM
His youtube highlights video, you guessed it,  Lovre Action.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on December 28, 2018, 04:52:14 PM
A free transfer because Money can’t buy you Lovre.
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Post by: SashasGrandad on December 28, 2018, 05:08:19 PM
A free transfer because Money can’t buy you Lovre.

I assume that's what we are telling EFL to avoid problems with FFP
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Post by: eamonn on December 28, 2018, 05:20:22 PM
Lovre Action?  This is Phil talking, I want to tell you what I found to be true.
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Post by: manic-road on December 28, 2018, 05:21:49 PM
The Burnley keeper Joe has written to him saying what a great club we are.

Lovre letters straight from the Hart.

Best one so far.
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Post by: CT on December 28, 2018, 05:34:29 PM
Very strong in all departments.

That's the power of Lovre.
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Post by: Pvb1968 on December 28, 2018, 05:40:21 PM
I need to cut back on alcohol, wonder what legal high I could try?
Ah, Lovre is the drug I'm thinking of.
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Post by: dave shelley on December 28, 2018, 06:20:58 PM
A couple of good saves will have the crowd singing 'Lovre Is A Many Splendid Thing'.  One for the old 'uns.
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Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on December 28, 2018, 06:26:56 PM
A couple of good saves will have the crowd singing 'Lovre Is A Many Splendid Thing'.  One for the old 'uns.
Hopefully he'll be the one that we want!  ;)
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Post by: Richard E on December 28, 2018, 06:34:44 PM
I’m a bit worried about the disruption signing him will cause to our very united dressing room. I fear Lovre will tear us apart again.
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Post by: CT on December 28, 2018, 06:43:24 PM
Ørjan Nyland got a bit touchy when asked about the incoming keeper today and just replied...

What's Lovre got to do with it?

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Post by: four fornicholl on December 28, 2018, 06:48:50 PM
After Villas first training session with Kalinic in attendance, throwing his weight around, Alan Hutton was quoted as saying "Lovre hurts!"
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 28, 2018, 06:58:39 PM
Ørjan Nyland got a bit touchy when asked about the incoming keeper today and just replied...

What's Lovre got to do with it?

In fairness Dean Smith took him to one side for a chat about it, he said to Nyland, now that we found Lovre what are you gonna do about it.
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Post by: CT Villan on December 28, 2018, 07:03:56 PM
Sitting somewhere in Heaven on her claret and blue cloud, Whitney is singing...

Lovre will save the day

...and I hope she is right.
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Post by: Steve67 on December 28, 2018, 08:44:58 PM
John Percy tweeting that Lovre can play on NYD against QPR?
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Post by: Dave P on December 28, 2018, 10:35:44 PM
Well I’m in lovre. Hopefully he’s a keeper.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on December 28, 2018, 10:52:36 PM
John Percy tweeting that Lovre can play on NYD against QPR?

I keep running this through my head but can't place the song? It better not be the Irish band.
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Post by: Dave P on December 28, 2018, 10:57:03 PM
John Percy tweeting that Lovre can play on NYD against QPR?

I keep running this through my head but can't place the song? It better not be the Irish band.

I can scan “Lovre can he play, on New Year’s Day?” to the Pogues Christmas song.
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Post by: Dave P on December 28, 2018, 10:59:05 PM
John Percy tweeting that Lovre can play on NYD against QPR?

I keep running this through my head but can't place the song? It better not be the Irish band.

Unless you mean B*Witched and your substituting “C’est La Vie” with “NYD”?
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Post by: Dazvillain on December 28, 2018, 11:30:38 PM
Ørjan Nyland got a bit touchy when asked about the incoming keeper today and just replied...

What's Lovre got to do with it?



Was there an echo in the room ? .....” got to do, got to do with it ?
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 28, 2018, 11:35:08 PM
I need to cut back on alcohol, wonder what legal high I could try?
Ah, Lovre is the drug I'm thinking of.

Maybe you've got a Lovre Hangover.
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Post by: LeeB on December 28, 2018, 11:45:34 PM
I think I just saw Lovre in an elevator in The Mailbox
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Post by: footyskillz on December 29, 2018, 12:34:34 AM
6'8
Big lovre.
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Post by: Havencheese on December 29, 2018, 02:35:18 AM
I came to this thread having never heard of the bloke before, sifting through pages and pages, still have no idea and ultimately I want to know what Lovre is.
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Post by: robbo1874 on December 29, 2018, 06:08:41 AM
I saw reported that in a 5-aside training match at Bodymoor, he was just passing the ball around to Hutton and Taylor in a bizarre lovre triangle.
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Post by: jwarry on December 29, 2018, 07:33:05 AM
I came to this thread having never heard of the bloke before, sifting through pages and pages, still have no idea and ultimately I want to know what Lovre is.

It’s because this is not s Lovre thread
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Post by: geolex on December 29, 2018, 08:12:55 AM
Its amazing how many people don't understand why we are so pleased to have signed a  new keeper, i guess its   A Lovre thing
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Post by: CT on December 29, 2018, 08:14:50 AM
Ørjan Nyland's been slagging him off again.

He's trying to give Lovre a bad name.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 29, 2018, 08:41:22 AM
I saw reported that in a 5-aside training match at Bodymoor, he was just passing the ball around to Hutton and Taylor in a bizarre lovre triangle.

I think I’ll pop down to Bodymoor to watch The Lovre train.
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Post by: Chris Smith on December 29, 2018, 08:49:36 AM
Apparently he has had an Unsworth like change of heart and will now be re-signing for Hajduk Split, Lovre don’t live here anymore.
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Post by: Fred Crump on December 29, 2018, 08:54:27 AM
I know not everyone Lovres it when a punathon gets going but this guy has already inspired some quality puns , this one excepted...
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Post by: Fred Crump on December 29, 2018, 08:55:24 AM
Just missed yours Chris, that’s probably one of the best so far...
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Post by: Ads on December 29, 2018, 08:59:56 AM
I know not everyone Lovres it when a punathon gets going but this guy has already inspired some quality puns , this one excepted...

That's the power of Lovre.
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Post by: Rigadon on December 29, 2018, 09:16:10 AM
Apparently his old club is getting rid because he isn't the right kind of keeper for a relegation battle.  He's a Lovre not a fighter.
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Post by: Steve67 on December 29, 2018, 10:32:27 AM
Apparently his old club is getting rid because he isn't the right kind of keeper for a relegation battle.  He's a Lovre not a fighter.

Like!
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Post by: gabbythelegend on December 29, 2018, 10:40:36 AM
See, for me, Alan Wright was a very underrated leftback. What we would give for him now... Ah, I see that I have posted in the wrong thread - what's Lovre got to do with it...
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Post by: Risso on December 29, 2018, 10:50:01 AM
He's a keeper, he's a grinner, he's Lovre, and he's a winner.
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Post by: curiousorange on December 29, 2018, 10:54:32 AM
I read that the reason he can't play before the QPR game is because he's gone on a short holiday to get some sun. When he returns, we'll all see that Lovre is a wonderful colour.
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Post by: footyskillz on December 29, 2018, 12:46:21 PM
Kalinic really rates himself he's a highly confident man . Just the way he talks about his own belief that he's like a  Muhammad Ali,  Zaltan Ibrahimovic , Christan Ronaldo..


Maybe that just him talking as his agent said he's always been like that


I think Lovres himself




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Post by: algy on December 29, 2018, 02:21:20 PM
His former team mates reckoned whatever their problems, they could always talk to Kalinic. Lovre is an open door ...
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Post by: geolex on December 29, 2018, 02:59:15 PM
obviously a Smith signing..so that makes it
lovre is a deano spending thing
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Post by: kieron on January 02, 2019, 02:27:26 PM
Kalinic interview.

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Post by: UK Redsox on January 02, 2019, 02:33:27 PM
He's a bit tentative on the shirt stretching.

(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/AstonVilla/Lovre%20Kalinic%20arrives/Kalinic12.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20190102T104124Z&hash=9D926FEF1AAD696F0435B38B4164E3A2EF6A4ADF)
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 02, 2019, 03:57:27 PM
He's a bit tentative on the shirt stretching.

(https://d3ix52z2istd7h.cloudfront.net/~/media/AstonVilla/Lovre%20Kalinic%20arrives/Kalinic12.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20190102T104124Z&hash=9D926FEF1AAD696F0435B38B4164E3A2EF6A4ADF)

It's a good thing. All of those previous signings who have stretched the threads out of the shirt have been largely shit.

And I knew he was big but fuck me he's massive. Taller than the training complex.
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Post by: dorsetvillian on January 02, 2019, 06:14:49 PM
This could be a massive signing for Villa ( no pun intended) Its gone slightly under the radar with all the games over Xmas, but he will hopefully make a massive difference.
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Post by: Drummond on January 02, 2019, 07:47:35 PM
The little snippet on the Official twitter feed makes him look like a monster! He'll have no problem taking out everything in front of him to get the ball.

Perfect.
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Post by: Matt Collins on January 05, 2019, 05:02:58 PM
Hmm

Didnt see the first goal

For the other two I thought he lacked a bit of presence

Wonder if steer will keep the shirt
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Post by: Ads on January 05, 2019, 05:15:09 PM
Fuck all he could do about two. Slow getting there for the first.

Diabolical defending though.
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Post by: dorsetvillian on January 05, 2019, 05:23:16 PM
After a nervy first 15 mins, his handling and quick distribution was good. Playing behind that defence will give him plenty of practice!
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 05, 2019, 05:25:16 PM
His kicks and throws were very good.
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Post by: wittonwarrior on January 05, 2019, 05:26:30 PM
Difficult to judge with a defence playing so poorly
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Post by: achilles on January 05, 2019, 05:31:30 PM
No reason to drop Steer on that performance though!
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 05, 2019, 06:27:55 PM
Being thrown under the truck already on avfc on Facebook

💪💪💪👍👍👍
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Post by: Risso on January 05, 2019, 06:36:52 PM
Like the rest of the team, he wasn't very good, especially for the first. Pretending he wasn't is just being dishonest with yourself. When Lovre breaks down, the things you do, to stop the truth from hurting you.
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Post by: TheMalandro on January 05, 2019, 06:37:56 PM
With hindsight, that was a dumb game to give as a debut, nearly as dumb as not lettting Super John have a wee break.
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Post by: olaftab on January 05, 2019, 06:39:29 PM
Lovre was all over the park.
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Post by: Richard E on January 05, 2019, 06:39:42 PM
We need to keep our faith in him. I’m sure Lovre can turn around.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 05, 2019, 06:44:47 PM
Like the rest of the team, he wasn't very good, especially for the first. Pretending he wasn't is just being dishonest with yourself. When Lovre breaks down, the things you do, to stop the truth from hurting you.

*applause*
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Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 05, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
I have no funny puns, but he was at fault for the 1st & 3rd goals, can we please get a decent keeper
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Post by: frank black on January 05, 2019, 06:51:25 PM
I hope this was a blip and just one of those games. As debuts go that was a stinker. He went down in installments with those low shots.
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Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 05, 2019, 07:02:46 PM
I hope this was a blip and just one of those games. As debuts go that was a stinker. He went down in installments with those low shots.

Yep 100%
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 05, 2019, 07:07:26 PM
With hindsight, that was a dumb game to give as a debut, nearly as dumb as not lettting Super John have a wee break.

Yes, should have give him a few more training sessions to get acclimatised. You can’t hurry Lovre.
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Post by: Richard E on January 05, 2019, 07:09:52 PM
Weather conditions weren’t right for him today. You can’t have Lovre in a cold climate.
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Post by: LeeB on January 05, 2019, 07:14:53 PM
I see tbe critics are out in force. What do they want? Lovre to spread his arms, and wait there for the nails?

Jesus.
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Post by: CT on January 05, 2019, 07:17:18 PM
He dîdnt even acknowledge the fans when he ran up to the Holte.

Show us some Lovre.
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 05, 2019, 07:25:04 PM
Just watched and whilst he could have done better for the first he would have been mightily impressive to have stopped either of the others.

Don’t blame it on lovre.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 05, 2019, 07:27:37 PM
Our new club song.

Lovre hurts
Lovre scars
Lovre wounds and marks
Any heart not tough or strong enough
To take a lot of pain, take a lot of pain
Lovre is like a cloud, it holds a lot of rain
Lovre hurts
Ooh Lovre hurts
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Post by: LeeB on January 05, 2019, 07:27:52 PM
He may not have been at fault, but I'm still disappointed.

I was led to believe that Lovre, Lovre changes everything.
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Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 05, 2019, 07:29:33 PM
He came for the ball, for the 3rd that he was never going to get and was therefore completely out of position, not a good start to his Villa career
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Post by: PeterWithe on January 05, 2019, 07:30:11 PM
He didn’t have a physical defence in front to protect him.

Lovre really hurts without Tu- anzebe.
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Post by: curiousorange on January 05, 2019, 07:45:45 PM
After today, don't talk to me about Lovre.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 05, 2019, 07:54:21 PM
Not the greatest Villa debutant .........just when we thought we were  stemming the tide . Let's hope he improves and any other signings this January have a more positive impact
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Post by: berneboy on January 05, 2019, 10:41:59 PM
He came for the ball, for the 3rd that he was never going to get and was therefore completely out of position, not a good start to his Villa career
Agreed, sir.
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on January 05, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
Maybe we should have two keepers.
Louvre plus one
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Post by: nigel on January 06, 2019, 10:13:02 AM
Goals aside, and I don't think he had much chance with any, I thought he was pretty good.
Certainly looked calm, even with the defence leaking like a sieve.
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Post by: Richard E on January 06, 2019, 10:13:57 AM
He came for the ball, for the 3rd that he was never going to get and was therefore completely out of position, not a good start to his Villa career
Agreed, sir.

The defending for the third goal was just a complete horror show all round.
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Post by: Roysmert on January 06, 2019, 11:31:40 AM
He wasn't great yesterday, let's hope it was nerves. The scene was set with their first attack though. From where I was in the Witton Lane the fans around me - whom I admit are amongst the most tiresome and negative in the game - didn't rate him from thereon in.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 06, 2019, 05:14:04 PM
Looked like a Lovre Hangover to me
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Post by: Mister E on January 06, 2019, 05:23:43 PM
The first goal was down to Hogan losing the ball on the edge of our box.
Kalinic had the misfortune to be behind a very poor defence.
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Post by: LeeB on January 06, 2019, 06:05:32 PM
The first goal was down to Hogan losing the ball on the edge of our box.
Kalinic had the misfortune to be behind a very poor defence.

I thought it was McGinn that lost it? It can't have been Hogan as he's yet to have possesion of the ball since he joined from Brentford.
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Post by: Ads on January 06, 2019, 06:10:34 PM
Yeah it was Hogan.
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Post by: wittonwarrior on January 06, 2019, 06:38:48 PM
We could have Gordon banks behind our defence and he would look jittery
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Post by: Dave P on January 06, 2019, 06:45:13 PM
I saw enough in Nylands debut v Wigan that there was signs that we may have a bit of a dud. I saw enough yesterday to make me think he’ll do ok.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on January 06, 2019, 07:18:46 PM
We could have Gordon banks behind our defence and he would look jittery

Well, he is knocking on a bit, to be fair.
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Post by: Matt Collins on January 06, 2019, 08:25:58 PM
Yeah I think he looked quite assured and technicallu sound

Bit slow tho

Let's see
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 07, 2019, 08:27:27 AM
BREAKING NEWS
after a less than SUPREME performance at the weekend ,new Villa keeper is to be drug tested to determine if he was a "Stoned Lovre "
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Post by: GarTomas on January 07, 2019, 08:28:57 AM
He wasn't great yesterday, let's hope it was nerves. The scene was set with their first attack though. From where I was in the Witton Lane the fans around me - whom I admit are amongst the most tiresome and negative in the game - didn't rate him from thereon in.

There was a woman near me who caused much amusement during the game with her verbal outbursts
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Post by: Matt Collins on January 07, 2019, 11:15:15 AM
My god some people in the Witton and the trinity really are the most tiresome depressing eeyores going
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Post by: stuart445 on January 09, 2019, 06:52:00 PM
The first goal was down to Hogan losing the ball on the edge of our box.
Kalinic had the misfortune to be behind a very poor defence.

This, Kalinic had initially punched the ball and it was a good punch but before he could settle himself the ball was right back at him and he was having to go to ground with a player sliding in on him. Didn't see much of the 2nd and 3rd as I was too busy trying not to die from the Flu but I thought he got better as the fame went on.
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Post by: Roysmert on January 17, 2019, 09:32:21 PM
He wasn't great yesterday, let's hope it was nerves. The scene was set with their first attack though. From where I was in the Witton Lane the fans around me - whom I admit are amongst the most tiresome and negative in the game - didn't rate him from thereon in.

There was a woman near me who caused much amusement during the game with her verbal outbursts

With a stick? Probably true Villa stalwart Lin.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on January 19, 2019, 06:56:38 PM
I’m becoming more and more certain that the defence is making our keepers look much worse than they are. I’m sure that having our defence in front of you completely kills any decisive decision making and confidence.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 19, 2019, 06:58:38 PM
I’m becoming more and more certain that the defence is making our keepers look much worse than they are. I’m sure that having our defence in front of you completely kills any decisive decision making and confidence.

Agreed. It must be chaos in front of him and Nyland before that. Not that both haven’t made errors but balls are flying in from all over the place and they just don’t know where the next mistake is going to come from. He made a superb save today to offset the goal he should have stopped.
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Post by: AlexAlexCropley on January 19, 2019, 07:01:17 PM
Jury's out on Kalinic at the moment. Doesn't look like an upgrade to me.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 19, 2019, 07:01:25 PM
Curtains for Lovre ? A poor window (so far)
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Post by: achilles on January 19, 2019, 07:32:00 PM
He is 6ft 7in and is a pussycat, dominate your f**king area, rather have Steer to be honest!
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Post by: SoccerHQ on January 19, 2019, 07:36:00 PM
With his size I was fully expecting a keeper dominating his box.

So far it seems he's as indecisive as Nyland on crosses. Not good. Does he speak much English?
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Post by: Ads on January 19, 2019, 07:40:17 PM
Disagree. Felt he comes for the ball a fair bit, even when he actually can't get the punch. He was right to stay where he was at the death and for their free header first half.

Slow getting down for the first, but with Taylor, Chester, Elphick, Hutton and Hourihane defensively, he's the last concern.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on January 19, 2019, 07:46:54 PM
He’ll be fine.
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Post by: wittonwarrior on January 19, 2019, 09:01:13 PM
He reads the game well but his hands are hit and miss   He pulled off a couple of great saves last week but was poor today as were the defenders, the midfield and our starting wide players
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Post by: PaulWinch again on January 19, 2019, 09:06:52 PM
If they can sort out the defence, huge and critical ask, I think he’ll be good.
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Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 19, 2019, 10:06:35 PM
Ok, all welcome to your opinion. I really don’t think he is very good, regardless of who is in front of him. Looks a keeper who is scared & keeper who is scared is a bloody liability
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Post by: oldhill_avfc on January 19, 2019, 10:07:50 PM
stays on his line more than Burridge.

worrying
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Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 19, 2019, 10:13:34 PM
stays on his line more than Burridge.

worrying

Never saw Burridge, Rimmer was my 1st keeper, Jimmy, Jimmy. Why can’t we have a decent keeper 😫
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Post by: LukeJames on January 19, 2019, 10:14:59 PM
3 games and his Villa career has been decided already. Atleast he got longer than Hause.
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Post by: CT on January 19, 2019, 10:17:21 PM
stays on his line more than Burridge.

worrying

I was hoping this was an area where he'd be far superior to Nyland. Hmmm.
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Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 19, 2019, 10:20:11 PM
3 games and his Villa career has been decided already. Atleast he got longer than Hause.

Not really fair, he was at fault for 2 v Swansea & 1 today, only my opinion. Haven’t written his Villa career off. He doesn’t fill me with confidence.
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Post by: walsall villain on January 19, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
3 games and his Villa career has been decided already. Atleast he got longer than Hause.


Not really fair, he was at fault for 2 v Swansea & 1 today, only my opinion. Haven’t written his Villa career off. He doesn’t fill me with confidence.
He has to get used to the Captain going on in front of him, he came here probably expecting the defenders could defend.
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Post by: Clampy on January 19, 2019, 10:34:43 PM
If they can sort out the defence, huge and critical ask, I think he’ll be good.

Me too. He made a good save to keep us in it at 2-2. Let's give him a chance shall we?
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Post by: brontebilly on January 19, 2019, 10:58:49 PM
Strange signing at this time of year. Always going to take time for a keeper to settle coming in from the Belgian league. Steer would have been fine until the end of the season.
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Post by: QuintonVilla on January 20, 2019, 08:05:56 AM
We paid £7m for a keeper who is no better than Nyland. We've got five keepers at the club and they're all shit.
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Post by: Ads on January 20, 2019, 08:24:53 AM
He's not shit.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 20, 2019, 08:30:13 AM
He's not shit.
But he would be if he played for Hull? ;)
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Post by: tomd2103 on January 20, 2019, 11:25:09 AM
We paid £7m for a keeper who is no better than Nyland. We've got five keepers at the club and they're all shit.

The goalkeeping situation at the club this season just sums up the kind of muddled thinking that has plagued the club for years now.  'Buy a player for a position and put them on good money, oh he's crap, let's buy another one and put him on good money, oh he's crap as well, let's just keep buying players until we find a decent one'. 

First viewing of Kalinic yesterday and was far from convinced.  I still can't quite understand why Steer was not given a chance at the start of the season, as he has looked the best of the bunch in the two games he has played.
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Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 20, 2019, 11:58:56 AM
Kalinic will be fine long term for us. Will help once we actually have something of a defence in front of him
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Post by: tomd2103 on January 20, 2019, 12:30:12 PM
Kalinic will be fine long term for us. Will help once we actually have something of a defence in front of him

Not having a go at you or anyone else on here, but I'm not sure how having a decent defence in front of them stops keepers from making the kind of mistakes he did yesterday.  He didn't really have a lot to do yesterday in terms of making saves (but did make a very good one at the end), so it wasn't like he was under a lot of pressure.  I'm certainly no goalkeeping expert, but he is a big guy and from the goals he has conceded so far, he does look a bit slow to get down.

As you say though, he needs to be judged in the long term, so we will see how he progresses.
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Post by: Ads on January 20, 2019, 12:45:35 PM
A shot got under him. It happens. Of more concern was Bowen, 10 yards out and where you'd expect a player to score, utterly unmarked.

If you're letting the opposition have a free hand like that you're going to concede.
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Post by: tomd2103 on January 20, 2019, 01:09:33 PM
A shot got under him. It happens. Of more concern was Bowen, 10 yards out and where you'd expect a player to score, utterly unmarked.

If you're letting the opposition have a free hand like that you're going to concede.

As long as it doesn't happen too often though Ads!!  Agree about the marking though, we were all over the place for both goals.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2019, 02:57:13 PM
Sam Johnstone would look no different than Kalinic behind that defence.

We are all over the place at the back. That starts with Chester who needs a solid defender and organizer next to him. Chester is an ok number two, but between having lost a partner in AT he was developing a relationship with, playing on the left, trying to be captain, having his own form issues, injuries and having to contend with two of the worst full backs imaginable is it any wonder he’s regressed along with our defence overall.
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Post by: wittonwarrior on January 20, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
He’s an upgrade on Nyland but has made some simple mistakes time will tell
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Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 20, 2019, 03:35:02 PM
He’s an upgrade on Nyland but has made some simple mistakes time will tell

Not at all. Nyland's distribution is far better and a real big miss at the moment, and his shot stopping is also at the very least on par
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Post by: LukeJames on January 20, 2019, 04:03:33 PM
Absolutely no goalkeeper is going to come into this club, play infront of that defence and look assured straight away, Johnstone looked dodgy for the first few weeks and he played infront of a settled back four including John Terry and a team prime tactic was not to conceed.
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Post by: Tuscans on January 20, 2019, 04:26:39 PM
Sam Johnstone would look no different than Kalinic behind that defence.

We are all over the place at the back. That starts with Chester who needs a solid defender and organizer next to him. Chester is an ok number two, but between having lost a partner in AT he was developing a relationship with, playing on the left, trying to be captain, having his own form issues, injuries and having to contend with two of the worst full backs imaginable is it any wonder he’s regressed along with our defence overall.
My thoughts exactly, apart from you thinking Andrew Townsend played along side Chester in the past.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2019, 04:29:40 PM
Sam Johnstone would look no different than Kalinic behind that defence.

We are all over the place at the back. That starts with Chester who needs a solid defender and organizer next to him. Chester is an ok number two, but between having lost a partner in AT he was developing a relationship with, playing on the left, trying to be captain, having his own form issues, injuries and having to contend with two of the worst full backs imaginable is it any wonder he’s regressed along with our defence overall.
My thoughts exactly, apart from you thinking Andrew Townsend played along side Chester in the past.

Haha. I would absolutely love us to have Townsend right now.
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Post by: tomd2103 on January 20, 2019, 04:46:37 PM
Sam Johnstone would look no different than Kalinic behind that defence.

We are all over the place at the back. That starts with Chester who needs a solid defender and organizer next to him. Chester is an ok number two, but between having lost a partner in AT he was developing a relationship with, playing on the left, trying to be captain, having his own form issues, injuries and having to contend with two of the worst full backs imaginable is it any wonder he’s regressed along with our defence overall.

Agree to a point TV, but it can also work the other way where an unreliable keeper can unnerve defenders.  Doubts start to creep in and that indecision can be very costly.  To be honest, we've probably had the worst of both worlds this season where the keeper can't trust the defence and vice versa.
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Post by: Mister E on January 20, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
Sam Johnstone would look no different than Kalinic behind that defence.

We are all over the place at the back. That starts with Chester who needs a solid defender and organizer next to him. Chester is an ok number two, but between having lost a partner in AT he was developing a relationship with, playing on the left, trying to be captain, having his own form issues, injuries and having to contend with two of the worst full backs imaginable is it any wonder he’s regressed along with our defence overall.

Agree to a point TV, but it can also work the other way where an unreliable keeper can unnerve defenders.  Doubts start to creep in and that indecision can be very costly.  To be honest, we've probably had the worst of both worlds this season where the keeper can't trust the defence and vice versa.
Exactly. We’re quick to criticise but we have a clusterfuck of a back five right now.
As others have said, it will take another close-season to get traction.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2019, 05:21:27 PM
Sam Johnstone would look no different than Kalinic behind that defence.

We are all over the place at the back. That starts with Chester who needs a solid defender and organizer next to him. Chester is an ok number two, but between having lost a partner in AT he was developing a relationship with, playing on the left, trying to be captain, having his own form issues, injuries and having to contend with two of the worst full backs imaginable is it any wonder he’s regressed along with our defence overall.

Agree to a point TV, but it can also work the other way where an unreliable keeper can unnerve defenders.  Doubts start to creep in and that indecision can be very costly.  To be honest, we've probably had the worst of both worlds this season where the keeper can't trust the defence and vice versa.

No doubt. But it’s harder to establish command when he looks in front of him and he’s got any combination of Chester, Elphick, Elmo, Hutton, Taylor, Bree. And then throw in give the ball away experts like Bjarnason, Whelan or Hourihane.
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Post by: Dazvillain on January 20, 2019, 08:33:32 PM
He hasn’t won me over yet, far from it, but let’s not forget the point blank save he made yesterday too
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Post by: Brassneck on January 20, 2019, 09:24:24 PM
When I looked back at Swansea's first, the player got a touch on the ball to change direction.  I can understand why he let it slip although I'm not convinced that it was impossible to have held though.  Their third goal saw him charge out, become isolated and then fail to get back into position.  Not the best of starts.

At Wigan, he was not at fault for any of the goals.

Yesterday, there is a slight possibility that he could have got down quicker but he's a big lad and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Not yet commanding his box like a bloke his side could but it's very early days & he's made a couple of good stops as well.

Not hit the ground running like I'd hoped and like Daz, he hasn't won me over but I certainly haven't lost faith in him, like I had with Nyland.
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Post by: LukeJames on February 04, 2019, 04:45:53 PM
Seeing him come for a cross in the 93rd minute, punching it 25 yards away and taking out 2 of our defenders and their attacker was fucking brilliant.
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Post by: colin69 on February 05, 2019, 09:15:40 PM
I hope he comes good but he doesn’t fill me with confidence. Hopefully I will be proved wrong.
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 05, 2019, 09:35:07 PM
Seeing him come for a cross in the 93rd minute, punching it 25 yards away and taking out 2 of our defenders and their attacker was fucking brilliant.
I said something similar on the match thread.

It's what I expected from him from day 1.
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Post by: Steve67 on February 05, 2019, 10:18:24 PM
Seeing him come for a cross in the 93rd minute, punching it 25 yards away and taking out 2 of our defenders and their attacker was fucking brilliant.

This sort of thing will create confidence throughout the side and can only be a good thing.  Breed confidence and make clean sheets a regular thing. 
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Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 07, 2019, 12:31:38 PM
I thought he looked quite shaky for a couple of crosses at Reading. He did however make a good save. Not completely convinced.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on February 07, 2019, 12:49:25 PM
Any keeper is reliant on the relationship he has with the defence, especially the CH's and lets face it our have mostly been a car crash this year.

Give them time to be settled and understand each others strengths and weaknesses then I am sure we will have a very sound foundation to build from

I would imagine the hurley burly of the Championship is far removed from what he has been used to up till now
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Post by: paul_e on February 07, 2019, 12:59:31 PM
Any keeper is reliant on the relationship he has with the defence, especially the CH's and lets face it our have mostly been a car crash this year.

Give them time to be settled and understand each others strengths and weaknesses then I am sure we will have a very sound foundation to build from

I would imagine the hurley burly of the Championship is far removed from what he has been used to up till now

I agree, I think this holds true for Nyland as well. It doesn't matter how good a goalkeeper is, put them behind a poor defence and they'll look hesitant and leak goals. Johnstone has struggled all season but most on here thought he was an excellent keeper (for this level).
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Post by: footyskillz on March 30, 2019, 08:46:25 PM
Left out of squad today ?
What's going on here ?
Maybe a rest after international break.
I say bring him back Steer has a go but by all accounts not convincing and isn't in same class.
No one pays 7 million for a keeper in championship and international Croatian and have him on bench .
Think it's ridiculous and I won't come here till Norwich and may I off from here or maybe only when  Lovre comes back in ! Just to give thoughts !
I hope others get to see sense in that steer shouldn't be keeper!

Good night ! Up the villa cya
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 30, 2019, 08:56:33 PM
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Post by: SoccerHQ on March 30, 2019, 09:02:00 PM
Who is number 4 keeper, Sarkic?

Edit: Was speaking to a Croatian fan on another forum and he said Kalinic was really poor for them in the two games. No mention of an injury.
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Post by: adrenachrome on March 30, 2019, 09:33:21 PM
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Nearly choked on my Cognac, you bad bastard!
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Post by: Legion on March 30, 2019, 10:04:12 PM
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Reply of the month/year.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 30, 2019, 10:24:45 PM
Left out of squad today ?
What's going on here ?
Maybe a rest after international break.
I say bring him back Steer has a go but by all accounts not convincing and isn't in same class.
No one pays 7 million for a keeper in championship and international Croatian and have him on bench .
Think it's ridiculous and I won't come here till Norwich and may I off from here or maybe only when  Lovre comes back in ! Just to give thoughts !
I hope others get to see sense in that steer shouldn't be keeper!

Good night ! Up the villa cya

Goodbye then. Again. Nobody is going to beg you to stay.
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Post by: LeeB on March 30, 2019, 10:25:43 PM
Jaysus.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on March 30, 2019, 10:40:10 PM
I love you footy, please don’t go don’t go away.
Please don’t go
Don’t go
I’m begging you to stay.
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Post by: West Derby Villan on March 31, 2019, 12:13:41 AM
I love you footy, please don’t go don’t go away.
Please don’t go
Don’t go
I’m begging you to stay.

Ok ok a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do
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Post by: mr underhill on March 31, 2019, 09:35:43 AM
is Skillz taking another sabbatical? I thought he dropped off the radar a few weeks ago.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 31, 2019, 10:00:28 AM
Baby if you've got to go away
I don't think
I can take the pain
Won't you stay another day
Oh don't leave me alone like this
Don't say it's the final kiss
Won't you stay another day
Don't you know
We've come too far now
Just to go
And try to throw it all away
Thought I heard you say
You love me
That your love was gonna be here to stay
I've only just begun
To know you
All I can say is
Won't you stay just one more day
Baby if you've got to go away
I don't think
I can take the pain
Won't you stay another day
Oh don't leave me alone like this
Don't say it's the final kiss
Won't you stay another day
I touch your face while you are sleeping
And hold your hand
Don't understand what's going on
Good times we had return
To haunt me
Though it's for you
All that I do seem to be wrong
Baby if you've got to go away
I don't think
I can take the pain
Won't you stay another day
Oh don't leave me alone like this
Won't you stay another day
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on March 31, 2019, 10:04:33 AM
Actually, ive been thinking about it for the last couple of minutes and ive changed my mind...

At first I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinkin' I could never live without you by my side
Then I spent so many nights Just thinking how you did me wrong
And I grew strong
And I learned how to get along
And so you're back from outer space
I just walked in to find you here, with that look upon your face
I should have changed that stupid lock
I should have made you leave your key
If I had known for just one second you'd be back to bother me
Go on now, go walk out the door
Just turn around now
'Cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to break me with goodbye?
Did you think I'd crumble?
Did you think I'd lay down and die?
Oh no not I, I will survive
For as long as I know how to love, I know I'll stay alive
I've got all my life to live
And I've got all my love to give
I'll survive
I will survive
Hey hey
Hey hey
(I, I will survive)
Every day
(I, I will survive)
Oh yeah
It took all the strength I had not to fall apart
Just trying hard to mend the pieces of my broken heart
And I spent oh so many nights just feeling sorry for myself
I used to cry, but now I hold my head up high
And you see me, somebody new
I'm not that chained up little person still in love with you
And so you felt like dropping in and just expect me to be free
But now I'm savin' all my lovin' for someone who's lovin' me
Go on now, go walk out the door
Just turn around now
You're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to break me with goodbye?
Did you think I'd crumble?
Did you think I'd lay down and die?
Oh no not I, I will survive
Oh as long as I know how to love, I know I'll stay alive
I've got all my life to live
And I've got all my love to give
I'll survive
I will survive
Hey hey
Go now, go walk out the door
Just turn around now
'Cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to break me with goodbye?
Did you think I'd crumble?
Did you think I'd lay down and die?
Oh no not I, I will survive
Oh as long as I know how to love, I know I'll stay alive
I've got all my life to live
And I've got all my love to give
I'll survive
I will survive
I will survive
Hey
(I, I will survive)
Every day
(I, I will survive)
Yeah yeah
Oh
(I, I will survive)
I will survive
(I, I will survive)
I've got all my love to give
(I, I will survive)
I've got all my life to live
(I, I will survive)
My loving is not in vain, oh no
I will survive
(I, I will survive)
I will survive
(I, I will survive)
Hey
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Post by: in exile on March 31, 2019, 02:52:54 PM
Fuck him
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Post by: Tayls_7 on March 31, 2019, 02:55:54 PM
Fuck him

Happy Mother's day.
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Post by: danno on March 31, 2019, 11:18:49 PM
Anyway...
Kalinic not even on the bench, injured?
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Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on April 01, 2019, 08:32:56 AM
Or given a rest after two internationals?
Deano said he watched both of his games!! Wonder what he saw?
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Post by: Risso on April 01, 2019, 08:54:06 AM
Since when do goalies ever need a rest so much that they’re not even on the bench?
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Post by: UK Redsox on April 01, 2019, 09:01:54 AM
Or given a rest after two internationals?
Deano said he watched both of his games!! Wonder what he saw?

That he looks the part but doesn't perform as well
That he doesn't command his area
That he's very slow to get to ground when diving

Is Bunn still around ? I was wondering why Sarkic was on the bench rather than him.
Another lad was performing third-keeper duties during warm up, so maybe Bunn has left
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Post by: KRS on April 01, 2019, 09:34:37 AM
I think Smith knows we’ve signed a dud. Wouldn’t at all be surprised to see both Kalinic and Nyland shipped out in the summer.
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Post by: sickbeggar on April 01, 2019, 12:48:40 PM
Personally i wouldn't write him off. Steer's done okay since coming back but then the re-inforcements in defence were gonna take time to settle in and make a difference. Possibly a bit of a loss of confidence playing behind such a terrible defence - bottom line is we were leaking loads of goals before Kalinic even signed for the club
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Post by: colin69 on April 03, 2019, 09:10:41 PM
I don’t think any of our keepers are the answer long term but Kalinic is the worst of the lot imo.
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Post by: brontebilly on April 04, 2019, 12:15:45 AM
Let's learn from the recent Hause experience eh guys? Kalinic needs a full pre-season to get up to speed, let's judge then. Early signs have not been promising admittedly..
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Post by: cdbearsfan on April 04, 2019, 01:15:08 AM
I'd rather judge him after a spell playing behind a half-decent defence. He came in at a time when our defence was as much use as a salad at a Scottish buffet, if we can keep Hause and Mings there's no reason to think he can't improve.
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Post by: KRS on April 04, 2019, 02:52:44 AM
He also plays in front of an international defence but still looks awkward and completely out of place. I think he's managed to somehow carve a career as a goalkeeper based on his size and being the shit kid put in goal rather than actually having any natural skill as a footballer. I'll be more than happy for Kalinic to prove me wrong, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if he was shipped straight back out again in the summer.
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Post by: Clampy on April 04, 2019, 07:09:59 AM
I think Smith knows we’ve signed a dud. Wouldn’t at all be surprised to see both Kalinic and Nyland shipped out in the summer.

I wouldnt claim we've signed a dud just because he was left out of the last squad. That could have been for any number of reasons really. Let's see how things pan out for him.
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Post by: London Villan on April 04, 2019, 07:39:37 AM
I love how we write players off so quickly.
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Post by: brian green on April 04, 2019, 07:47:40 AM
There is a long and illustrious list London Villan going in my time right back to Danny Blanchflower.  The He's Shit Get Rid roll call.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on April 04, 2019, 07:14:41 PM
Writing him off is absolutely bonkers.
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Post by: Steve67 on April 04, 2019, 07:36:09 PM
He will be a good keeper but needs more than three months to adjust for goodness sake.
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Post by: sirlordbaltimore on April 04, 2019, 08:08:54 PM
He will be a good keeper but needs more than three months to adjust for goodness sake.

I thought exactly the same about Nyland. And still do.
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Post by: Legion on April 04, 2019, 08:22:24 PM
He is a good goalkeeper already.
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Post by: adrenachrome on April 04, 2019, 08:27:32 PM
He will be a good keeper but needs more than three months to adjust for goodness sake.

I thought exactly the same about Nyland. And still do.
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Me too. Excellent distribution, which is a big part of the game these days.

Dean Smith has some tough decisions to make, and I think he is the best man to get them right.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 04, 2019, 08:46:50 PM
Let's learn from the recent Hause experience eh guys? Kalinic needs a full pre-season to get up to speed, let's judge then. Early signs have not been promising admittedly..

I agree with you re Kalinic, he needs time, but surely Hause as an example doesn't work, as he's a player who sorted himself out in the space of a couple of games (and very well, too) rather than needing a pre-season.
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Post by: KRS on April 04, 2019, 09:00:27 PM
We obviously need to give both Kalinic and Nyland the benefit of the doubt and see how they fair with a preseason, however they are professional footballers for a reason and a ball is still a ball so we can only judge them on what we've seen so far, and what the coaches see of them in training. It's fair to say they both still have to prove themselves at this stage and they have the chance to do so.

Has there been any news on either of their injuries lately?
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Post by: Toronto Villa on April 04, 2019, 09:14:05 PM
If Steer had the clown defending that both Nyland and Kalinic had to deal with he’d look even worse. There is a reason Jed Steer is a career back up. It’s because he’s a back up level keeper. Better than Bunn who is another example. Kalinic is an international level goalkeeper who while had some shaky moments, so not giving him an entire pass, has had a lot more to contend with in his short Villa career.
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Post by: Damo70 on April 04, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
David De Gea struggled in his first six months in English football. Even with his size and ability it took him half a season to adjust.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on April 04, 2019, 09:26:50 PM
The current England goalkeeper has had a number of disastrous moments this season. Neither Kalinic or Nyland, while they have made errors, combined have not done anything as pronounced.
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Post by: KRS on April 04, 2019, 10:06:01 PM
To be fair to De Gea and Pickford, whilst they have better defenders in front of them, they are also up against considerably better players than Kalinic and Nyland on a weekly basis. I'd rather not contemplate how most Premier League strikers would fair against either of them...and corners or crosses would give me nightmares.
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Post by: Risso on April 05, 2019, 12:23:02 PM
We'll see if he's back on the bench tomorrow.  If not, then I'd suggest something is amiss, and he'll be off in the summer.
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Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 05, 2019, 12:31:19 PM
Hugo Lloris and Pickford have had some very shaky moments recently behind a better defence than Kalinic as had.
Id wait see him behind a proper defence like we have now and Im sure he will look a lot better and improve. .
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Post by: in exile on April 06, 2019, 02:52:49 PM
We'll see if he's back on the bench tomorrow.  If not, then I'd suggest something is amiss, and he'll be off in the summer.

He's not on the bench today
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2019, 03:01:35 PM
Injury: Knee

Details: Kalinic picked up a slight knee problem on international duty and missed the win over Blackburn Rovers. Matija Sarkic has taken his place on the bench in his absence.

What Smith said:

He had a bit of a knee problem. He has done a couple of days training but is still feeling it slightly, so we will have a look at him ahead of Saturday's game at Sheffield Wednesday.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on April 06, 2019, 03:07:16 PM
Injury: Knee

Details: Kalinic picked up a slight knee problem on international duty and missed the win over Blackburn Rovers. Matija Sarkic has taken his place on the bench in his absence.

What Smith said:

He had a bit of a knee problem. He has done a couple of days training but is still feeling it slightly, so we will have a look at him ahead of Saturday's game at Sheffield Wednesday.

Ok that’s good news. I don’t want us giving up on an international keeper. He’s not remotely as bad as some have made out.
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Post by: colin69 on April 06, 2019, 05:39:58 PM
Injury: Knee

Details: Kalinic picked up a slight knee problem on international duty and missed the win over Blackburn Rovers. Matija Sarkic has taken his place on the bench in his absence.

What Smith said:

He had a bit of a knee problem. He has done a couple of days training but is still feeling it slightly, so we will have a look at him ahead of Saturday's game at Sheffield Wednesday.

Ok that’s good news. I don’t want us giving up on an international keeper. He’s not remotely as bad as some have made out.

He is....
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Post by: Toronto Villa on April 12, 2019, 12:25:35 AM
This should settle why Kalinic hasn’t been playing

https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1116457321851432960?s=12
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 12, 2019, 01:18:39 AM
Wake up sheeple. He's been deported for smoking.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on January 20, 2020, 03:15:16 PM
We are selling him to Bordeaux. No idea what the fee would be.
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Post by: LeeB on January 20, 2020, 03:17:49 PM
I saw him play. In years to come it will be worn as a badge of honour.
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Post by: Des Little on January 20, 2020, 03:56:03 PM
I saw him and Moreira play.  Do I win?
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Post by: old man villa fan on January 20, 2020, 04:01:09 PM
I saw him and Moreira play.  Do I win?

Sorry, no prize unless you saw Ivo Stas play for us as well!
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2020, 04:06:25 PM
He came, he fumbled, he left.
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Post by: Dazvillain on January 20, 2020, 04:34:16 PM
Club site confirms he’s left on loan to Toulouse
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Post by: cdbearsfan on January 20, 2020, 04:37:48 PM
Sure they said Bordeaux on Sky. Are you sure they didn't say "Kalinic is going to lose?"
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Post by: Border villan on January 20, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
I saw him and Moreira play.  Do I win?

Sorry, no prize unless you saw Ivo Stas play for us as well!
I claim that prize (nearly) as I saw Ivo on the pitch in a Villa shirt in a youth friendly at Shrewsbury Tech. Whether he played in the 20 odd minutes before he held his hamstring and walked off is a matter of conjecture.
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Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 20, 2020, 04:52:33 PM
He came, he fumbled, he left.

I wonder who bought him ?
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Post by: Border villan on January 20, 2020, 05:06:47 PM
He came, he fumbled, he left.

I wonder who bought him ?
Ivo went back to Banik Ostrava.
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Post by: eamonn on January 21, 2020, 12:21:14 AM
On-loan? Pity we couldn't sell the fecker. The only player in the squad Smith rated less than Kodjia.
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Post by: tomd2103 on January 21, 2020, 12:44:57 AM
He came, he fumbled, he left.

In a golden decade for terrible signings at the club, he has to be one of the more bizarre ones.  It was as if they found a file on him left in a drawer somewhere from when we tried to sign him before and got shafted by that woman from Sunderland. 
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 21, 2020, 02:30:52 AM
By my reckoning, since we were relegated we've used 9 different goalkeepers in the first team, which is some going.
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Post by: Damo70 on January 21, 2020, 02:46:33 AM
I saw him and Moreira play.  Do I win?

Sorry, no prize unless you saw Ivo Stas play for us as well!
I claim that prize (nearly) as I saw Ivo on the pitch in a Villa shirt in a youth friendly at Shrewsbury Tech. Whether he played in the 20 odd minutes before he held his hamstring and walked off is a matter of conjecture.



I saw Ivo play for and score for Villa in a pre season friendly at Witney Town. Possibly the first game under BFR. I think Big Ron had gained some coaching experience at Witney whilst still playing for Oxford. There were no stands so we were all stood around the touchline like a parks game. I think we won 6-0 and Ivo was credited with one of the goals, even though he actually hit the side netting and the ball went in through/under the net.
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Post by: purpletrousers on January 21, 2020, 03:18:11 AM
I saw him and Moreira play.  Do I win?

Sorry, no prize unless you saw Ivo Stas play for us as well!
I claim that prize (nearly) as I saw Ivo on the pitch in a Villa shirt in a youth friendly at Shrewsbury Tech. Whether he played in the 20 odd minutes before he held his hamstring and walked off is a matter of conjecture.



I saw Ivo play for and score for Villa in a pre season friendly at Witney Town. Possibly the first game under BFR. I think Big Ron had gained some coaching experience at Witney whilst still playing for Oxford. There were no stands so we were all stood around the touchline like a parks game. I think we won 6-0 and Ivo was credited with one of the goals, even though he actually hit the side netting and the ball went in through/under the net.

You definitely get 100 I Spy points for that. Well done.
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Post by: eamonn on January 21, 2020, 08:38:17 AM
The fact that Ivo scored a "ghost goal" in an obscure friendly game is kind of fitting. Man or myth?
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Post by: Luke8 on January 21, 2020, 08:40:00 AM
He came, he fumbled, he left.

In a golden decade for terrible signings at the club, he has to be one of the more bizarre ones.  It was as if they found a file on him left in a drawer somewhere from when we tried to sign him before and got shafted by that woman from Sunderland. 

Didn’t we try to sign him three years prior and he got denied a work permit at the time too? Obviously transfers sometimes end up not working for all sorts of reasons, but giving that background to signing him, his pedigree as an international goalkeeper, us paying a fee when we clearly didn’t have much money at the time and then him being outcast with a couple of months it really has been a bizarre signing.
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Post by: LeeB on January 21, 2020, 08:54:36 AM
He left because he had a technical flaw in his game.

Lovre can't turn around.
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Post by: KevinGage on January 21, 2020, 09:06:02 AM
Hope it's a loan to buy. 

He might not have been great for us but he came with decent pedigree and we shouldn't be in a situation where we just take any loan to get him off the wage bill. Esp with FFP considerations and all those fun things.
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Post by: GarTomas on January 21, 2020, 09:08:43 AM
An odd signing - a signing agreed under Bruce maybe? 
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Post by: old man villa fan on January 21, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Wasn't he brought in as an experienced keeper after Nayland was injured when we were down to one keeper.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on January 21, 2020, 01:26:44 PM
An odd signing - a signing agreed under Bruce maybe? 

That is my understanding of the situation
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Post by: brian green on January 21, 2020, 01:33:24 PM
Yeah, but did you see David Unsworth play against Wycombe?
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 21, 2020, 02:33:50 PM
I saw him and Moreira play.  Do I win?

Sorry, no prize unless you saw Ivo Stas play for us as well!
I claim that prize (nearly) as I saw Ivo on the pitch in a Villa shirt in a youth friendly at Shrewsbury Tech. Whether he played in the 20 odd minutes before he held his hamstring and walked off is a matter of conjecture.



I saw Ivo play for and score for Villa in a pre season friendly at Witney Town. Possibly the first game under BFR. I think Big Ron had gained some coaching experience at Witney whilst still playing for Oxford. There were no stands so we were all stood around the touchline like a parks game. I think we won 6-0 and Ivo was credited with one of the goals, even though he actually hit the side netting and the ball went in through/under the net.

You definitely get 100 I Spy points for that. Well done.
How many I Spy Points would I get for this one PT?

……..Pre season friendly away at Bedford Town circa 1968 - featuring Oscar and Hector Arce, which we lost 0-2 if my memory serves me  correctly 
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Post by: darren woolley on January 21, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
He was a moody keeper he was the only one who very rarely sign autograph's for people which when you think about it kids and people shouting him and he just walks off.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on January 21, 2020, 03:17:55 PM
Did anyone see George Best play for us? That would be the winner I think.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on January 21, 2020, 03:23:35 PM
Did anyone see George Best play for us? That would be the winner I think.

There were about five thousand there. I saw that, plus Ivo Stas three times, plus Doug Ellis all playing for us.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 21, 2020, 03:25:53 PM
Did anyone see George Best play for us? That would be the winner I think.
That's a good call :) 
With regard to Unsworth.... I saw him walking his dog down my road more times than him wearing a Villa shirt (that's Unsworth, not his dog)
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Post by: Drummond on January 21, 2020, 03:34:20 PM
Did anyone see George Best play for us? That would be the winner I think.

There were about five thousand there. I saw that, plus Ivo Stas three times, plus Doug Elis all playing for us.

Did he score with a bicycle kick?
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Post by: Risso on January 21, 2020, 07:04:01 PM
My faith that Kalinic was going to be the new Cech was shattered somewhat in the 3-0 away blasting at Wigan.  I've never seen a goalie so slow to get down to the ball, it really was like he went down in instalments.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 21, 2020, 07:05:51 PM
Actual footage from that Wigan game

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/NWlBEcDW5evFS/source.gif)
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Post by: dcdavecollett on January 22, 2020, 07:19:54 PM
I saw him play at Brentford, where he did well.

Next game, he got concussed and Jed took his place and kept it.

Such are the fine margins.
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Post by: colin69 on January 22, 2020, 07:46:01 PM
Actual footage from that Wigan game

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/NWlBEcDW5evFS/source.gif)
Made me laugh....
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Post by: mr underhill on January 23, 2020, 07:25:01 AM
His very first game gave us a taste of things to come- Alpine glaciers move with more speed.
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Post by: sid1964 on January 23, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
Strange signing, hopefully he will do well on loan and earn himself a permanent move.
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Post by: TheMalandro on February 13, 2020, 04:38:05 PM
Injured in his last match, the report says “torn thigh”.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on December 22, 2020, 03:46:21 PM
Splitting to Hadjuk on loan in January
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Post by: SaddVillan on December 22, 2020, 04:02:25 PM
Never really felt the lovre for him.
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Post by: Richard E on December 22, 2020, 04:20:28 PM
I thought he'd already left the club, to be honest.
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Post by: Risso on December 22, 2020, 04:21:39 PM
He's almost Balabanesque in terms of return on investment.  I can't remember many worse debuts than his at Wigan.

Ugo's against Norwich, maybe.
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Post by: SheffieldVillain on December 22, 2020, 04:46:47 PM
Excellent. No more asking Where is the Lovre.

One free space in the 25 man squad already then for a new signing / Lansbury. 
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Post by: Risso on December 22, 2020, 04:47:47 PM
Lovre don't live here any more.
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Post by: Chris Smith on December 22, 2020, 04:55:01 PM
Lovre’s Labour’s Lost.
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Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 22, 2020, 04:57:49 PM
He was due to leave earlier in the season, but...… you cant hurry Lovre, you just have to wait 
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Post by: Small Rodent on December 22, 2020, 04:59:17 PM
Creates space in the squad for another goalkeeper...
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Post by: colin69 on December 22, 2020, 05:24:55 PM
He was due to leave earlier in the season, but...… you cant hurry Lovre, you just have to wait

Made me laugh 👍
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 22, 2020, 05:54:04 PM
Injured in his last match, the report says “torn thigh”.

Tainted Lovre.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 22, 2020, 07:42:08 PM
He never recovered from throwing it in against Swansea in his first home game.  Then of course the Albion home game when I think Dean judged him to have no bottle.
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Post by: Drummond on December 22, 2020, 10:29:17 PM
He's an Easy Lovre.
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Post by: aj2k77 on December 22, 2020, 10:46:50 PM
He never recovered from throwing it in against Swansea in his first home game.  Then of course the Albion home game when I think Dean judged him to have no bottle.

And a 6ft 6 Keeper got lobbed by a header because he jumped like Scott Hogan.
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Post by: brontebilly on December 22, 2020, 10:48:51 PM
Bruce had Steer in goal for the first game that season, a win at Hull. For some insane reason, Steer was let go on loan to bring in Nyland, who Bruce claimed our then goal keeping coach Gary Walsh had been scouting for years. He was a car crash and Bruce eventually replaced him with Bunn for the cabbage gate last stand v Preston. Fast forward to Smith/Cutler and bringing in Kalinic for crazy money for a championship keeper. He was immediately dreadful and at least Smith saw the error of his ways and brought Steer back in.

Steer while injury prone is definitely more than good enough to hold his own in the championship. A key part of our promotion bid including brilliant saves in the playoff semi.
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Post by: Morleys left boot on December 23, 2020, 12:30:55 AM
Lovre was in tha air every time I looked around
But occasionally he was shite
And a waste of money
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Post by: Matt C on December 23, 2020, 12:51:50 AM
Wasn’t the Kalinic deal done before Smith arrived after we tried to sign him under Garde (shudder), it just got finalized once the window was open by which time Smith had joined? I could be wrong.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on December 23, 2020, 12:55:48 AM
We tried to sign him under Garde but were unable to do so as we couldn't obtain a work  permit, so the deal was dead.

Roughly three years later we signed him under Smith. So nothing to do with the earlier interest.
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Post by: eamonn on December 23, 2020, 12:05:14 PM
Has a club ever tracked a player so long only for him to be such a flop?
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Post by: Toronto Villa on December 23, 2020, 12:33:37 PM
Has a club ever tracked a player so long only for him to be such a flop?

I see your Lovre Kalinic and raise you a Mathieu Berson
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Post by: Risso on December 23, 2020, 01:04:51 PM
We tried to sign him under Garde but were unable to do so as we couldn't obtain a work  permit, so the deal was dead.

Roughly three years later we signed him under Smith. So nothing to do with the earlier interest.

Wasn't it the nonce-hushing Sunderland Chair who scuppered the deal for us?
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Post by: cdbearsfan on December 23, 2020, 01:53:38 PM
Yes, they were definitely on the panel.
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Post by: LeeB on December 23, 2020, 02:33:13 PM
Yes, they were definitely on the panel.

I knew she was a unit but didn't realise it was two people.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on December 23, 2020, 05:52:11 PM
Excellent. No more asking Where is the Lovre.

One free space in the 25 man squad already then for a new signing / Lansbury. 

I genuinely had forgotten about Lansbury. What a waste of a wage
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Post by: dcdavecollett on December 23, 2020, 07:12:37 PM
Lovre cost us something over £6m, didn't he?
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Post by: eamonn on December 25, 2020, 09:30:22 PM
Yeah. Emi will prove to be/is a bargain and Steer paid for his spare many times over with his performances in the Ch'shit, especially the Play Offs. You win and lose some.
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Post by: manic-road on July 11, 2021, 05:19:36 PM
Kalinic will be spending next season on loan at Hajduk Split.
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Post by: algy on July 11, 2021, 05:39:08 PM

This is not a Lovre song.
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Post by: Dave on July 29, 2021, 08:20:55 PM
Kalinic and his Hadjuk Split team get knocked out of that new UEFA thing by some Kazakh part-timers.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on July 29, 2021, 11:11:39 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/HajdukSplitUK/status/1420803252283707394
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Post by: Dave on July 30, 2021, 08:34:35 AM
2-0 from the first leg, lost the second 4-1
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Post by: FatSam on August 03, 2021, 09:22:36 PM
Hadjuk player scores amazing opening goal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuIE0M7iKYI) but his team still lose 1-2. Both Osijek goals (as well as another which was ruled out for offside) were scored from follow-ups after Kalinic palmed the ball into dangerous areas.
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Post by: colin69 on August 03, 2021, 09:40:36 PM
Certainly no Emi is he?
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Post by: Ad@m on August 03, 2021, 09:55:39 PM
I still have nightmares about his debut against Swansea in the FA Cup...
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Post by: eamonn on August 03, 2021, 10:20:43 PM
We were due a bargain goalkeeper transfer in Emi. Just about makes-up for the wastes of money on Kalinic, Heaton, Gollini, Given....can't remember who we had in the sticks during the Lambert years...Guzan still, was it?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 03, 2021, 10:30:21 PM
Harsh to call Heaton a waste of money, he was perfectly reasonable before he got Burnleyed.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Dave P on August 04, 2021, 07:12:17 AM
I assume you meant Nyland instead of Heaton?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Gareth on August 04, 2021, 07:55:11 AM
We were due a bargain goalkeeper transfer in Emi. Just about makes-up for the wastes of money on Kalinic, Heaton, Gollini, Given....can't remember who we had in the sticks during the Lambert years...Guzan still, was it?
No way Heaton can be in that group, he was excellent & looked the right keeper for us before he got hurt
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Post by: DrGonzo on August 04, 2021, 08:01:51 AM
Very harsh on Heaton, I agree.  I think Eamonn is suffering with the whole JG situation and is letting it hang out at the wrong targets.
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Post by: Risso on August 04, 2021, 09:02:24 AM
Harsh to call Heaton a waste of money, he was perfectly reasonable before he got Burnleyed.

He wasn't really Burnleyed was he. Injured himself in making a save as I recall, rather than being assaulted like Wes.
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Post by: Drummond on August 04, 2021, 09:18:43 AM
Nah, blame their pitch.
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Post by: eamonn on August 04, 2021, 10:29:14 AM
Heaton cost £8m, probably more than half that again in wages and he played a total of 20 games for us. To me, that's a waste of money regardless of his quality. He's a decent goalkeeper but we barely got to experience any of it.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 09, 2021, 02:08:06 PM
Harsh to call Heaton a waste of money, he was perfectly reasonable before he got Burnleyed.

He wasn't really Burnleyed was he. Injured himself in making a save as I recall, rather than being assaulted like Wes.

Can't remember. As it's Burnley, I just assumed there was some brutality involved. Probably racism, too.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 01, 2022, 11:43:05 AM
Gone. Good luck to him but, being honest, he will be one of those you can't remember in those "Missing Men" quizzes in a few years.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1542817931993776128
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Risso on July 01, 2022, 11:48:50 AM
By christ he was shit. Like, Tonev and Helenius levels of shit.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: LeeB on July 01, 2022, 11:51:13 AM
Gone. Good luck to him but, being honest, he will be one of those you can't remember in those "Missing Men" quizzes in a few years.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1542817931993776128


My mate did a great one of those for just the last ten years, he tried to post it up here but the file format was an issue. I was the only one that managed to get them all, no googling, but my god some of the random shite that have worn the shirt in that period is unsettling when you see them grouped together like that.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 01, 2022, 11:52:24 AM
He must be better than he's showed for us. I mean, Croatia are quite good, aren't they? Anyway he was generally shite for us. People moan at Steer but he was a million times better than the other dozen or so goalkeepers we tried out last decade.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on July 01, 2022, 11:53:45 AM
Gone. Good luck to him but, being honest, he will be one of those you can't remember in those "Missing Men" quizzes in a few years.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1542817931993776128


My mate did a great one of those for just the last ten years, he tried to post it up here but the file format was an issue. I was the only one that managed to get them all, no googling, but my god some of the random shite that have worn the shirt in that period is unsettling when you see them grouped together like that.

Try this...

https://www.sporcle.com/games/R_Porter/aston-villa-players-2010-2019
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Post by: LeeB on July 01, 2022, 11:59:09 AM
He must be better than he's showed for us. I mean, Croatia are quite good, aren't they? Anyway he was generally shite for us. People moan at Steer but he was a million times better than the other dozen or so goalkeepers we tried out last decade.

To be fair, most people I know love and appreciate Jed, he was great in the run in to promotion and outstanding in the play offs.

The only time I saw Kallinic was at home to Swansea in the cup that season, and he was terrible, went he tried to get down to a low pea roller it reminded me of when they blew the flats up in Castle Vale.

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Post by: paul_e on July 01, 2022, 12:05:58 PM
He must be better than he's showed for us. I mean, Croatia are quite good, aren't they? Anyway he was generally shite for us. People moan at Steer but he was a million times better than the other dozen or so goalkeepers we tried out last decade.

Steer is a decent top half of the championship keeper but he's a long way short of competing with Martinez so if he wants to play he needs to leave.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: pauliewalnuts on July 01, 2022, 12:07:15 PM
my god some of the random shite that have worn the shirt in that period is unsettling when you see them grouped together like that.

I found myself thinking of Bret Holman the other day.

What is amazing is how quickly we forget some of these utter fucking no-hopers. There were loads of them.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: darren woolley on July 01, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
We didn't love Lovre did we I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Risso on July 01, 2022, 12:12:13 PM
my god some of the random shite that have worn the shirt in that period is unsettling when you see them grouped together like that.

I found myself thinking of Bret Holman the other day.

What is amazing is how quickly we forget some of these utter fucking no-hopers. There were loads of them.

Who remembers Kevin Toner? Now playing in the Spanish 4th division.
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Post by: LeeB on July 01, 2022, 12:19:59 PM
Simon Dawkins, the spannish full back that wasn't Tony Moon, the Portuguese keeper that was worse than Kallinic, semi-retired Grant Holt and many, many more.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 01, 2022, 12:20:57 PM
Gone. Good luck to him but, being honest, he will be one of those you can't remember in those "Missing Men" quizzes in a few years.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1542817931993776128


My mate did a great one of those for just the last ten years, he tried to post it up here but the file format was an issue. I was the only one that managed to get them all, no googling, but my god some of the random shite that have worn the shirt in that period is unsettling when you see them grouped together like that.

Try this...

https://www.sporcle.com/games/R_Porter/aston-villa-players-2010-2019

Got 97, would have got more if I'd read the last few posts. 😄
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Post by: Exeter 77 on July 01, 2022, 12:27:13 PM
Moreira, the Portuguese keeper, isn't actually in that Sporcle quiz (I managed to remember him!) probably because he didn't play a league game. I could remember the Spanish full back who played once against Stoke as Jose Angel but not his surname - Crespo.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: paul_e on July 01, 2022, 12:29:25 PM
Tom Carroll is one of my favourites, one of the most bizarre signings I can remember.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Legion on July 01, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Goodbye, good luck and thanks for all the memories I have no recollection of.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Hookeysmith on July 01, 2022, 12:31:49 PM
Goodbye, good luck and thanks for all the memories I have no recollection of.

LOL
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Legion on July 01, 2022, 12:34:26 PM
Tom Carroll is one of my favourites, one of the most bizarre signings I can remember.

That was a loan. Joe Cole and Robert Pires were inspired choices.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: Dave P on July 01, 2022, 01:08:39 PM
He was in goal for the 3-3 v Sheff Utd (O'Connell's mistake....McGinn...GREEEEEENNNNN) and he had the ball kicked out of his hands for their second goal.  Because of this, I have zero sympathy for them for the ghost goal a year later.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: LukeJames on July 01, 2022, 01:09:07 PM
6'7 but still got lobbed while standing on his line.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: cdbearsfan on July 01, 2022, 01:13:04 PM
I can't actually remember any of his matches, just a vague feeling of ennui and despair when I heard his name mentioned.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: Legion on July 01, 2022, 01:41:23 PM
https://www.sporcle.com/games/R_Porter/aston-villa-players-2010-2019

Derrick Williams?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: eamonn on July 01, 2022, 02:13:23 PM
my god some of the random shite that have worn the shirt in that period is unsettling when you see them grouped together like that.

I found myself thinking of Bret Holman the other day.

What is amazing is how quickly we forget some of these utter fucking no-hopers. There were loads of them.

Who remembers Kevin Toner? Now playing in the Spanish 4th division.

Rudy in Lisbon had a soft spot for him, I think.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: Kevin Dawson on July 01, 2022, 04:13:10 PM
https://www.sporcle.com/games/R_Porter/aston-villa-players-2010-2019

Derrick Williams?

Came on for one substitute appearance against QPR away in a 1-1 draw under Lambert in December 2012. Brett Holman scored for us......
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Signed
Post by: tomd2103 on July 01, 2022, 04:27:02 PM
I can't actually remember any of his matches, just a vague feeling of ennui and despair when I heard his name mentioned.

One of the strangest signings we have made.  Just remember him being very slow to get down and looking very suspect against low shots.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: Steve67 on July 01, 2022, 04:27:40 PM
Free transfer I presume, or have we paid them to take?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: Drummond on July 01, 2022, 04:50:46 PM
Well good luck to him.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: paul_e on July 01, 2022, 04:59:21 PM
Free transfer I presume, or have we paid them to take?

Seems to be from what I can find, no mention of a fee anywhere, it does mean a small hit on FFP because he'll have had a book value of about £1m, not enough to make it a bad deal though. I think Trez and Targett will have accounted for £8-10m positive for FFP so we're still 'up' on the sales so far and it'll be a decent chunk off the wage bill as well.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: OCD on July 01, 2022, 05:57:38 PM
At least we don't have to sell £60m players because we're afraid of FFP implications.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: dcdavecollett on July 04, 2022, 02:12:08 AM
Kalinic was actually improving.

His last full game for us was at Brentford where he made two good saves and deserved the clean sheet he was denied in stoppage time.

In the next game he was concussed against Albion, Jed Steer took his chance and the long winning run took us up.

Though signed under Deano, apparently the move was set up under Bruce's management, meaning that Bruce signed no fewer that three 'keepers in his last few months in charge -unbelievable, and clear evidence that Bruce had lost the plot.

In the meantime, he sent Steer -who was better than all of them- on loan to Charlton for half the season!!
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: RamboandBruno on July 04, 2022, 08:44:05 AM
Only played a few times, but in those few games id suggest the worst keeper thats played for us. Its good he’s off the books snd good luck to him.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: Legion on July 04, 2022, 08:50:11 AM
Only played a few times, but in those few games id suggest the worst keeper thats played for us. Its good he’s off the books snd good luck to him.

Gabor Kiraly.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: VILLA MOLE on July 04, 2022, 08:51:37 AM
can’t believe i put him on the back of my shirt , who would have thought?
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on July 04, 2022, 08:56:08 AM
Remember him taking 8 days to get down to a shot against Hull. Byland gets stick, but I thought Kalinic was a lot worse
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: Risso on July 04, 2022, 09:29:57 AM
One more for old times' sake..

The goalkeeping department looked a lot more stable when he went. After the Lovre has gone.

Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: LeeB on July 04, 2022, 09:39:58 AM
One more for old times' sake..

The goalkeeping department looked a lot more stable when he went. After the Lovre has gone.



I don't think we had the correct support systems in place to help him develop as a person, emotionally.

You've got to let Lovre grow.
Title: Re: Lovre Kalinic - Gone Gone
Post by: Drummond on July 04, 2022, 11:30:50 AM
One more for old times' sake..

The goalkeeping department looked a lot more stable when he went. After the Lovre has gone.



I don't think we had the correct support systems in place to help him develop as a person, emotionally.

You've got to let Lovre grow.

Definitely not a Lovre Sensation.
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