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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on November 11, 2018, 08:33:29 PM

Title: Press Start
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 11, 2018, 08:33:29 PM
I expect a comment from Chris Jameson, at the very least.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/11/the-day-we-caught-the-train/
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 11, 2018, 08:54:00 PM
Great read.  However, I personally thought Sunderland 4-0 at home was the sit up and take notice fixture in 80-81.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Legion on November 11, 2018, 08:54:58 PM
Done. Exciting times at long last.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Steve67 on November 11, 2018, 09:43:10 PM
Great piece and I hope that this isn't yet another false dawn.  It seems not, to be fair and with owners such as the ones we have, the only way is up.  The day we caught the train eh?  Let's hope its unstoppable. Things seem a bit, well, exciting.  I am really looking forward to the next few games, as tough as they appear to be, the opposition will be concerned about us for once! (I hope).
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Legion on November 11, 2018, 09:44:38 PM
Perhaps that corner we have been waiting to turn finally has. Hope so.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: jwarry on November 11, 2018, 09:54:15 PM
You can never change history Dave, but if the money had come through earlier we probably would have had those three players but we would most likely still have Bruce as well because they would have got us there or thereabouts......
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: clash city rocker on November 11, 2018, 09:54:30 PM
Perhaps that corner we have been waiting to turn finally has. Hope so.

I've been round so many corners with villa I'm dizzy.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 11, 2018, 10:03:55 PM
You can never change history Dave, but if the money had come through earlier we probably would have had those three players but we would most likely still have Bruce as well because they would have got us there or thereabouts......

Agreed

Everything happens for a reason
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Villan For Life on November 11, 2018, 11:27:23 PM
Great read.  However, I personally thought Sunderland 4-0 at home was the sit up and take notice fixture in 80-81.

Great performance with a 4-0 win the day after my birthday, but in the previous home game we’d lost 2-0 to Everton so I don’t think the win over Sunderland was a sit up and take notice result.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: TheMalandro on November 12, 2018, 05:53:27 AM
I expect a comment from Chris Jameson, at the very least.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/11/the-day-we-caught-the-train/

I was expecting a snippet about Lady Diana or Queen.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: brian green on November 12, 2018, 06:18:35 AM
Excellent piece.  The money sentence expresses the confirmation that before Dean Smith,,  goalless away from home against in form opposition the manager would have dug in for a fist pump on the final whistle and a point.  Exhilarating stuff after what we have endured for years.  We have to be braced for games when Dean will go for the jugular and lose but I can live with that.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on November 12, 2018, 08:14:37 AM
I expect a comment from Chris Jameson, at the very least.

http://thebirminghampress.com/2018/11/the-day-we-caught-the-train/

I was betting on a John Terry reference. Chis hasn't been back since this in the Terry thread:

I’m out of here!
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Clampy on November 12, 2018, 09:02:27 AM
I thought it was going to be another interview with a grumpy member of Ocean Colour Scene for a minute. Good read though.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Nev on November 12, 2018, 09:37:39 AM
I, for one welcome our new managerial overlord and his complex and well thought out strategy, however I might not be so enthusiastic if we're one up against the rags with five minutes to go and he's piling everyone forward!
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: darren woolley on November 12, 2018, 09:47:09 AM
Great read Dave.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Duncan Shaw on November 12, 2018, 10:26:17 AM
You've pinpointed the exact moment, Dave, when as a wide-eyed kid in my old wooden seat in the Trinity I was level with Dennis as he burst through and I knew at that point we were going to win the league.  I'm too cynical and seen too much over the last couple of years to do anything but cautiously hope this isn't another false dawn, but I agree it's got a good vibe about it!!!
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: kipeye on November 12, 2018, 01:29:01 PM
Chris is being enigmatic now you've mentioned his name.
Don't think this is a false dawn, more that we will have to be patient.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: maidstonevillain on November 12, 2018, 01:54:17 PM
You've pinpointed the exact moment, Dave, when as a wide-eyed kid in my old wooden seat in the Trinity I was level with Dennis as he burst through and I knew at that point we were going to win the league.  I'm too cynical and seen too much over the last couple of years to do anything but cautiously hope this isn't another false dawn, but I agree it's got a good vibe about it!!!

I was right behind the goal. Can still see Dennis running towards before bending it around the goalkeeper as if in HD. The whole ground knew the significance of that goal.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on November 12, 2018, 02:31:18 PM
You've pinpointed the exact moment, Dave, when as a wide-eyed kid in my old wooden seat in the Trinity I was level with Dennis as he burst through and I knew at that point we were going to win the league.  I'm too cynical and seen too much over the last couple of years to do anything but cautiously hope this isn't another false dawn, but I agree it's got a good vibe about it!!!

I was right behind the goal. Can still see Dennis running towards before bending it around the goalkeeper as if in HD. The whole ground knew the significance of that goal.
We must have been close to each other MV - not only was it in HD it was playing in slow motion - that victory and the way it was achieved definitely got many of us truly believing - I'm more pessimistic these days so will wait until January before deciding on the outcome of this season's endeavours


Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Border villan on November 12, 2018, 04:21:05 PM
My moment was early morning on 18th December 1976. Walking to catch the bus to my new job in the grim north. Bought a newspaper, turned with trepidation to see the previous nights results.
There it was Aston Villa 5 - 1 Liverpool.
Perhaps, just perhaps .........
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: clash city rocker on November 12, 2018, 04:50:34 PM
My moment was early morning on 18th December 1976. Walking to catch the bus to my new job in the grim north. Bought a newspaper, turned with trepidation to see the previous nights results.
There it was Aston Villa 5 - 1 Liverpool.
Perhaps, just perhaps .........

What a game that was
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: West Derby Villan on November 12, 2018, 04:55:31 PM
I remember, I remember beating Brighton midweek 22/10/80 to actually go top of Division One. The rest as they say is history!
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: brian green on November 12, 2018, 05:08:40 PM
I had the honour, thanks to the great generosity of a long time poster on this forum,  to meet and talk to the legend that is Dennis Mortimer.

I asked him if he would answer a question truthfully that had plagued me for years.  Sure he replied, ask away.

When you burst through the Liverpool defence and surged towards their goal with the ball at at your feet, did you think Clemence was going to bring you down?

I never thought it for one moment he replied.

You were the only one in Villa Park.  I replied.

He roared with laughter.

I had made Dennis laugh.  Some honour.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: Somniloquism on November 12, 2018, 05:37:36 PM
You've pinpointed the exact moment, Dave, when as a wide-eyed kid in my old wooden seat in the Trinity I was level with Dennis as he burst through and I knew at that point we were going to win the league.  I'm too cynical and seen too much over the last couple of years to do anything but cautiously hope this isn't another false dawn, but I agree it's got a good vibe about it!!!

I was right behind the goal. Can still see Dennis running towards before bending it around the goalkeeper as if in HD. The whole ground knew the significance of that goal.
We must have been close to each other MV - not only was it in HD it was playing in slow motion - that victory and the way it was achieved definitely got many of us truly believing - I'm more pessimistic these days so will wait until January before deciding on the outcome of this season's endeavours

Not quite HD

Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: clash city rocker on November 12, 2018, 09:10:05 PM
The Brendon Batson back pass that season will always stick in my mind.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: ktvillan on November 12, 2018, 11:11:33 PM
I remember, I remember beating Brighton midweek 22/10/80 to actually go top of Division One. The rest as they say is history!

I remember that, although I missed the game - I saw we'd thumped them to go top and that's when I thought we might have something going.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 14, 2018, 05:38:58 PM
What a week that was!

Sunday -Louden Wainwright III at the Town Hall.

Monday -Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band -the Odeon.

Tuesday -Ry Cooder and the Radio Silence -the Odeon (possibly the greatest gig of all time -discuss)

Wednesday - Villa stuff Brighton (Seagulls' scorer? J. Gregory) to go top of the league!

Beat that lot, Deano!

Dave's post reminded me of another 3-0 win, away to Notts County in 1972, after which we knew we were going up because it seemed that nothing could stop us.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: dcdavecollett on November 16, 2018, 03:12:24 PM
While on the subject. I also recall a superb performance in a 3-1 win at Goodison in 1981, that might well have been the moment when I 'believed'.

Then again, I had the same sense after the 4-1 against the Dogheads last season, so it's all bollocks, innit?
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 17, 2018, 12:10:45 AM
While on the subject. I also recall a superb performance in a 3-1 win at Goodison in 1981, that might well have been the moment when I 'believed'.

Then again, I had the same sense after the 4-1 against the Dogheads last season, so it's all bollocks, innit?

Goal of the season 1981 - Tony Morley in that Everton game.  Trevor Ross with a penalty for them with the most ridiculous awarding of a handball penalty against McNaught.  But Gary Shaw's was almost as bad.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 17, 2018, 12:20:44 AM
Looking back everything points to that Liverpool game in '81. Before that game we were on a run of 3 wins in 10, Liverpool was the start of a 7 game winning run and we only lost 3 of the last 17. If we hadn't beaten Liverpool I don't think we'd have been even close to winning the league.
Title: Re: Press Start
Post by: robbo1874 on November 17, 2018, 01:33:25 AM
I, for one welcome our new managerial overlord and his complex and well thought out strategy, however I might not be so enthusiastic if we're one up against the rags with five minutes to go and he's piling everyone forward!
rags will get a hiding, I think.
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